JAIME MAUSSAN AND DARCE WEIR : MAUSSAN'S UFO FILES
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Thank you.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and very happy to be here today.
We have a fabulous guest, Jaime Masson, and I think many people will know his name.
Certainly a well-known television host as well as journalist and investigator and he is really worldwide at this point and has done a number of television shows as well as documentaries and we're going to talk to him more about that.
This also includes Darcy Weir who is a filmmaker and he has done a documentary all about Jaime Thank you.
How are you, Gary?
I'm very good.
Thank you.
It's an honor to have you on my show.
I've admired your work for a very long time, so it's exciting to have you here.
And I'm not sure if we have Darcy on the line, but I'm going to see if we can get him.
Here I am.
I'm right here.
Okay, very good.
For some reason, the picture isn't showing up, but It may be because it's widescreen, so just stand by, I'll get that sorted.
So, Darcy, welcome, and why don't we start out with an introduction by Jaime.
Talk about yourself, how you got into the field, and what you've been doing lately.
Well, I've been a journalist in the Television of Mexico, an University of Texas journalist, since 1972.
In 1980, I started working at 60 Minutes as a reporter.
By 1984, I was able to present one documentary on this show, because this investigation about the BDN case had so many errors, especially some physical, like the metals, like the sounds, and some Our houses of photographs are on 8, super 8-millimeter films.
And also, especially, because you have information that really impressed us because, as you know, it was announced back in 1975 when nobody else did accept the scientists that the ozone layer was breaking, was being depleted.
And if we didn't take care of that, according to these ETs, we would have big problems.
And that was back in 1975.
This was confirmed by 1985.
And then we thought that this case was very important.
And I got involved in that just once.
And in 1991, I became...
I'm involved also because I participated in a TV show where they had a debate.
And in this debate, I tried to present the case because my television network asked me to participate.
I didn't want to do it because I didn't want to get too much involved in the UFO phenomena because, as you know, it's not very good for journalists or was not very good.
This is changing now.
Exactly.
And then I thought that it would be very dangerous for my career to really get involved in this.
For that reason, I didn't want to participate, but it was so successful that I realized how important it was because this is the time of the eclipse of 1991, the 11th of July of 1991, and there were so many people that recorded this event.
And that's when I realized that the video camera had become the most important instrument in demonstrating the reality of this phenomenon.
I thought that in the future, the camera would give us so many answers to this phenomenon that it would make it real.
And that's exactly what is happening right now.
And that's when I really became involved in this.
Even though I continued working in 60 Minutes, by that time I was the director of 60 Minutes, until 1995 that the show ended, unfortunately, and then I started a new show that is called Tercer Millennial, which I am doing now in the television, now in Azteca television in Mexico, but it's still on, and both have been very successful.
That is how I became involved in this.
So that's wonderful.
And I've actually got Darcy now on the screen, so we're bringing him on as well.
Darcy, you are now on the screen.
So the documentary is very fascinating, and I think it's a wonderful thing that you did to focus on Jaime's work.
And I'm hoping that you can maybe talk about why you were prompted to get into this, Darcy, with Darcy.
Sure.
So, I've been following Jaime Maussan for a number of years, really, since I really started Looking into the UFO and ET sort of contact phenomenon, Jaime was at the top of the list of journalists, credible people that were out there investigating many different incidents that were happening across Latin America.
But additionally to that, his show was reviewing things that were happening all around the world.
China, Russia, the United States, Canada, anywhere really that something was happening.
He was investigating it, reviewing it, seeing and testing its credibility.
And I found that quite...
As you know, I've worked on a few documentaries so far.
We did one on Phil Schneider and underground bases.
We did one on alien abduction and the history of that and the credibility of that phenomenon.
Internationally.
And also did a documentary on secret space and sort of NASA involvement in possibly covering up UFOs flying to our planet.
And their sort of involvement in that.
I thought I had not done a piece on a journalist, on somebody who was out there investigating this phenomenon and getting the information to the masses through regular television.
And Jaime's been doing that incredibly for over 47 years.
I don't even know if there's any other journalist out there That has done that kind of work in regards to this sort of research.
So I reached out to him earlier this year And his team got back to me and I said I was going to come down to Mexico City.
He has a studio in Mexico City where they film and research and edit and then put their whole show, Tercor Millenio, on national television down in Mexico there.
So I visited the studio and he was kind enough to allow me to interview him and really get down to how he got into investigative journalism and then where The UFO subject and all the different aspects of the UFO subject.
As you know, it's very multi-layered and there's so many different things that you have to account for this subject.
And he and his team have been covering these different types of aspects for a number of years.
So he just basically divulged all that information to me and I've been working on this documentary series with him, and the first documentary covers how he got into this at a young age, really.
20, 19 years old, he was already researching all of this stuff.
His career grew and it's still going strong.
He has over 2 million views every week of his show alone.
I'm very privileged to be part of this journey and Beyond the Spectrum, Maussan's UFO Files is just the starting sort of stepping stone to other incredible stories in this multi-layered aspect of this phenomenon that we're going to cover in the series.
Excellent.
Well, I think it's fabulous that you have done this.
Now, Jaime, I've watched some of your very early videos.
I also heard you speak various times over the years, and we're going back 15 years, really.
I know you've been doing this for a very long time.
It's interesting because in the skies over South America and Latin America, the The traffic is much greater than what we see in the US. Have you observed that?
Yes.
Yes.
For some reason in Mexico, since 1991, we have had many, many sightings.
Unfortunately, through the television, I was able to ask the people to look to the skies, something that normally people around the world don't do.
Or at least at that time didn't do.
And I started getting videos.
I was amazed because I thought that that was not going to happen.
But then I realized how were these objects, their attitude, the kind of sightings that we should expect.
And then the whole reality was very clear in front of me.
And then That's how I did it.
And until now, I think after that, many people got inspired around the world to really make a sky watch and try to record and produce the evidence.
For me, as an investigative journalist and with a 60 Minutes mind, it was very important to prove everything we said.
And that's the way I am still doing it.
I don't consider myself an ufologist because what I do is investigate from a journalistic point of view.
Then that's my, I could say, my legacy or my participation in this field.
And what we proposed back in 1991 is happening now.
I mean, we have seen the last programs from Unidentified, these shows that were presented To the Scars Academy Center of Investigation and what they said and what the pilots saw in the sky very close to Mexico, by the way, close to Ensenada or in the Atlantic from Virginia to Florida.
It is very, very similar to what we have seen through the years in videos.
These fleets Staying together, flying together, or moving very fast.
Many of the things that the pilots were somehow giving the testimony around what they saw is exactly what we have been presenting through the years.
It was also very important, all the investigation we did with the Volcano Papacatepe, because from the beginning, from 1991, we received many reports of the activity of ufos around the volcano and because of that we were able to predict back in october 94 that the volcano was ready to erupt and this happened in december of the same year and then everybody asked me why we
knew that this would happen and it was because of the activity of the ufos uh in the very last years we have been able to to get images of cameras That are placed in front of the crater of the volcano, even from the television, from the cameras of Televisa, and now my cameras, because we now have cameras placed in front of the volcano that are recording 24 hours a day.
You can watch it.
If you check Popocatepet live, In the internet, in YouTube, you can see the volcano live.
And then you will see sometimes UFOs that are going inside.
And then we were able to prove, also through that, with all these videos that were recorded around Mexico and then around the world, that this is real, this is happening.
And right now, as Darcy mentioned, we have this show, Tercer Millenium, and we have many friends around the world, and we receive many videos almost every week, videos that we are able to investigate and present on a weekly basis in my show.
Which is, by the way, it's two hours long, and it's presented on primetime Sunday nights.
And many, many people watch this show, probably a million people, every week.
And through that, we continue presenting the reality of what is happening very closest to the reality.
For example, this morning, and you will see this very soon, we received a video from France, That is really amazing.
One of the best videos I have seen of our fleet.
So many UFOs moving almost at the ground level in front of the camera for five or ten minutes.
It's just amazing.
I'm just mentioning an example of what we see constantly through our friends around the world.
And I don't think there is any other show that presents that kind of reality Every week, every Sunday.
And that's what makes, I believe, our show important because we are very, very close to the reality.
People in the United States now are finding out again through these pilots, through these witnesses, would we have been presenting that for a long time?
I don't know if you can say that.
That's very, that's wonderful.
And it's so rare.
Unfortunately, I don't believe your show is shown on television here in the United States.
I really wish it was.
Have you tried to actually get it so that you could have your show on?
Yes, I'd like to.
Unfortunately, the first problem is that it's in Spanish.
As you know, it would be very difficult to translate it into English, but I am presenting the show.
You can check it out.
It's in MausanTV.
MausanTV at YouTube.
And you can see some of the segments that we present every week.
And you see a new reality, probably, with all this information and videos and investigation.
Because around me work many other journalists.
And I can tell you, we try to be as As credible as possible, we just take and present stories that can be investigated, that are very solid, that are real, and that they are, you know, with their feet on the ground, if you understand what I say.
Of course, absolutely.
Well, one of the things that I noticed is you do have a show, it says, I think it's season one of a show that you've done on Netflix, so you're aware of that?
Yeah, that is true.
We made that.
It's an old show, though.
It's a show that we did in 2011 and 2012.
It's okay.
I mean, but the difference now and the quality and the investigation have changed so much in just seven years.
But you can check it out in my new shows at Maussan TV and you will see some very spectacular pieces, you know?
Well, that's amazing.
No one in the United States is able to do that on mainstream television.
There seems to be a block against that, and that is a very strange thing.
But I know that when I've seen your videos, even at conferences, you show many more UFOs than anyone else.
And that's always been the case.
Now, I do wonder if you have encountered Aliens yourself.
Have you seen them?
Have you filmed them?
Yes, once.
I was doing an investigation at the rumorosa Sierra near Tijuana, between Tijuana and Mexicali, very close to the border, by the way.
And I was investigating a case.
Three little kids were lost on the mountain for a couple of days.
And in the middle of that, one night, They had to go up in a tree because there were many serpents in the ground.
And when they were there, they were able to see UFOs coming to them very close to the tree.
And then they saw the deities all around them for the whole night.
They didn't sleep.
They saw them.
It was very clear.
And I did the investigation with them.
And I made even hypnosis with them, a regression hypnosis.
And it was very, very solid the case.
Then I went to find the tree, to find the details, to see if they were telling me the truth.
And when I was sleeping, this is the 27th of May, 1999, 2.05 in the morning, they called me.
I was sleeping inside a camp.
And sleeping back, when I come out, I saw one creature which was phosphorescent, bright, around, what, 80 yards from me.
And then we were there, I was trying to record, and then we saw a second creature coming close to the first one, and they stayed there for around five minutes.
Unfortunately, In 99, yeah, there were night visual cameras and we had one, but they were not very good.
And these creatures were almost 80 yards from me.
And for some reason, we couldn't record them.
Even though we were six people, including the two kids, one guy, one person from my team and myself, and all of us.
I saw this incredible event.
Even though I didn't get the evidence that I wanted, it was very important because at that moment, if I knew that the phenomenon was real, at that moment it was so clear to me that we were right and that this phenomenon is exactly what we think.
And there is no question that we are being visited by some other intelligences.
And for me, that was the best proof that I had in my life.
So what year was that?
1999.
A long time ago.
20 years ago.
Yes.
Now, you knew Dr.
Roger Lear, correct?
Yes, absolutely.
And he was quite a good investigator as well and he was revealing the implants.
Have you done any shows on implants?
Yes, yes.
We follow the case of Ron Noel.
If you remember Ron Noel, he was one of the last persons with an implant in his hand.
And we were there and we followed and we investigated that implant We were able to record the signal that was coming from the implant, the energy that was coming from the implant.
We were there when it was extracted, was taken out of the body, and we were able to see how this implant was able to move inside the body, trying to avoid being taken out like a smart creature.
And that's an amazing case, really amazing.
And I was able to really share so many moments with Roger Lear.
I invited him to my congress in Acapulco back in 99, by the way, 99 again.
And throughout that time, we met many, many times in different congresses.
And we shared also an incredible adventure in Turkey.
When we went there to investigate Yaxin Yalman, one of the men, the man that has obtained some of the best images from a UFO. He did it for three years in a row, and it's still one of the best cases.
And that was one of the last times.
After that, we got together with Ronald.
And after that, unfortunately, Roger Lear died.
But I think what he did was just an amazing work.
Okay, very good to know and to hear.
I wonder if you investigated the NASCA, in fact, I know you investigated the NASCA alien story.
Yes, this is absolutely real.
Yes.
No question.
We have the DNA and the DNA, especially of the little ones, is absolutely real.
There is no other creature on earth similar to this.
And we have the DNA and we have the proof.
And nobody wants to take that.
It's amazing.
It's just amazing.
Yeah.
So do you think there's been a government shutdown of that story?
I think the archaeologists in Peru, from the very beginning, they were opposed.
They said they were not invited.
The thing is that one man, Leandro Benedicto Rivera, found these bodies in a cave.
He was looking for gold, but he found this in a diatomea earth cave, and the bodies, many, many bodies were inside there, and he was able to take them out.
After that, we were able to investigate the case.
The archaeologists in Peru said that I had cut the fingers, two fingers, and I had put the fingers above the other fingers to make it look like aliens.
Well, that is funny, you know.
It's almost impossible to do something like that.
And there was no investigation that nobody else has done.
And again, this case is one of the most important ever because now we can prove not just that the aliens are here, but that they were partners or they were able to live with all human beings.
And I think that would change history.
And probably that's exactly what these archaeologists, with a very narrow mind, One, that nobody accepts or believes that there were aliens in the past.
Right.
Well, there's a key thing.
I did quite a bit of investigating on that story.
Also talked to the remote viewers.
I guess you heard about the remote viewers earlier.
Brett, and I forget the other guy's name, but at any rate, they were looking at it before GuyMTV ever got down there.
And then what they saw as remote viewers, you might have heard, was exactly what GuyMTV found.
Were you dealing with GuyMTV and were you dealing with Jay Widener?
Because I know he took a team down there.
Yeah.
Yeah, we were together there.
Okay.
And one of the things that Jay Widener told me is that they were afraid of those little robots.
They actually think that those are clones or robots, those little, the small ones.
And then Maria was...
They are organic, 100% organic.
I can tell you, they are not robots.
Okay, they had an implant.
I think they are a little craze.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
But they had this implant that was implanted in, I think, either the throat or the chest area?
Yes, in the chest and in the hand.
We think now that this creature, especially the one that has the implant in the chest, it had an injury in the back and also in the clavicle.
And we think that for that reason was using this implant It was somehow a therapeutic implant.
That's what we think could be something different.
But we believe that it was injured very badly.
And this is something that was practiced on it.
Probably not to feel the pain or to be able to live.
But at the end, it died.
And it died when it had three eggs in the stomach.
Three eggs.
And a fourth one was still growing.
Then I think that's a very good proof that they were alive.
Okay, well, are you speaking about...
They called her Maria.
Maria is the big one with the big head.
Maria is the one with the big fingers.
Maria is very human.
Not completely human.
Very human.
Probably a hybrid.
We don't know what it is.
Probably.
But it's very similar.
Probably.
She did have four fingers.
Exactly.
Like the ones they found in China, and they say they are 10,000 years old.
And it's very similar to the ones of Paracas that were analyzed by the scientists, by Marzulli and Brian Foster and others, and the results were presented in Los Angeles in a press conference.
Back in January 2019.
And they proved that these creatures came from the Middle East.
And they were found in America.
That's one thing.
And the other is that the head was natural.
It was not elongated artificially.
Because the foreman magnum It's in such a way that it displays almost an inch, a little bit less than an inch, to the back.
And you cannot do that with a human being because it could die.
Then they proved right there, Marsulia enforcers and others, they proved right there that these creatures were not 100% human.
And they are very similar to Maria.
And now we think that this is Somehow, some kind of a class, an elite that live in Egypt, live in Peru, live in Mexico, live in China, and many other places.
Yes, these are called the longheads.
For those people listening, there's one reference to them by Brian Forster, specializes on the longhead skulls.
He has, I believe, a small museum down in South America somewhere.
And also, they're called Anunnaki.
They're also called Anunnaki, these elongated heads.
They could come from the Sumerians, no question.
Yes.
So, are you saying that one of the small beings was pregnant as well?
Because Maria was pregnant, we know that.
No, one of the small beings was pregnant.
Maria was not pregnant.
We thought that Maria had a child, because we found a child very close to Maria.
But that child was completely human.
It had three fingers, but the other two fingers were cut.
We don't know if they were cut recently or if the child was sacrificed.
When they did that, they cut the fingers.
We don't know yet.
But Maria, it was not pregnant.
The one that is pregnant and had three eggs inside is the little one.
Okay, now my understanding is that there were several little ones.
In fact, all the little ones had implants.
Yes, yes.
Okay.
At least I've seen Probably six or seven little ones.
Great.
Okay.
Another thing Jay Widener has said is that the small ones, some of them were considered to still be alive, and he was warned not to go to the cave and to go in there, and so he kept away.
That's what the man who found them said.
We don't know that for sure.
Okay.
We don't have any proof.
That is real.
But we were told that.
We were told that these people saw these kind of creatures around.
But we don't know if they were lying or if they were telling the truth.
But what is the truth is that the creatures, these bodies are real and are the most important evidence ever regarding the ET phenomenon.
Because they proved by themselves That the case is real, that the aliens are here, and that they were present in the past, and probably, just probably, they participated with the old cultures, you know, developing that culture, and probably the astronomy, and so many other sciences.
Yes, absolutely.
Now, what about, you know, Dr.
Lear investigated what's called the Varginia alien.
Do you remember that case?
Yes.
And he actually caught that alien on film.
I saw that film and it looked very real.
Did you investigate that case as well?
No, we didn't.
Unfortunately, and others investigated that case, I wasn't able to do it.
By that time, for some reason, I don't remember why, but I couldn't go to Brazil.
Even though the case is spectacular.
It's a real case and it's spectacular.
There were aliens after probably a crash or something, and they were captured by the police, most of them, and they were probably sent To the U.S. We don't know.
But that's the most probable thing that happened in that case.
But the case is absolutely real.
No question about that.
Okay.
And some people would like to know, have you ever been threatened for your work?
No.
The only time that something strange happened to me is after I received the video from the Secretary of Defense in Mexico back In 1990, excuse me, 2004, I received an email with no words from a very secret place in the United States.
It is like they were telling me, we're watching you or be careful or something.
I don't know.
That's the only thing that really happened to me.
After that, I have not been threatened.
However, What has happened to me is that many, many times people in Mexico, especially the scientists, don't help me to do my investigation.
They try to obstacle me, to stop me from doing research.
That's what has happened to me.
I can say I understand because this happens to me all the time as well.
All right.
So, Darcy, I do want to include you in the conversation and I apologize.
It's okay.
So I did want to give you a chance.
Can you talk a little bit more about some of the things that you were surprised when you came across with regard to Jaime and some of his work?
Yeah, so Jaime's work is a catalog that is miles long.
In the first documentary, Maussan's UFO Files, we covered, you know, two major incidents that happened in regards to his journalistic research and how he two major incidents that happened in regards to his journalistic research and how he got into the subject of UFO
Two of the major incidents were the first one in 1991, which millions of people across Mexico had seen.
It was a daylight sighting.
It was a lunar eclipse, a solar eclipse, rather.
And sometimes a solar eclipse will cross a certain part of our planet.
And at that point in history, the solar eclipse was crossing perfectly across Mexico and other Latin American countries.
And During this time, the TV news shows were saying, look to the skies, observe the solar eclipse.
It's really going to be something fantastic to see where eye protection, don't look right at the sun like Trump does, and so on.
And basically, people were encouraged to record this solar eclipse.
So what happened was people recorded the solar eclipse, millions of people watched, And millions of people all saw the same silver type disc craft revolving and hovering in the sky between us, the Earth and the moon and the eclipse that was happening.
So Jaime at the time was a younger journalist and he got wind of the story and picked it up and collected videos from Puebla, Mexico.
Mexico, which is an hour or so north of Mexico City, from across Mexico City, and they compared and showed all these videos.
That were of the same craft and they did a news broadcast and a full review of that incident.
I found that incredible because, you know, in the United States, we've never had, or North America, we've never had a very clear-cut case like that that was a mass sighting in daylight that millions of people saw and reported.
To the news agencies and to the police and so on and so forth.
So that incident started a UFO fever across Latin America.
And I was quite surprised to learn about that case that he had covered early in his career.
Obviously, he had done the Billy Meyer case.
He had covered that for the Latin American public.
So he had some notoriety there as covering cases like this.
And his career really was exploding around 1991 when he covered that.
Then another case, which is very relatable to the Tic Tac UFO case, which Jaime was mentioning earlier.
Is the Sedena incident.
Now, the Sedena incident happened around the Campeche region of Mexico.
That is part of the sort of Yucatan area.
And if you wanted to get to that region, you would basically go on a southwest drive from Cancun, let's say, to a forest called Campeche.
And this borders with Belize.
Now, what's interesting about this case is that this footage, which Jaime got from basically the DEA, the Drug Administration of Mexico's police force,
their military force, it's kind of like all made as one down there, He got this footage from the head of their task force.
He was called in.
It's a pretty funny story in the documentary the way he was called in.
He didn't know if he was going to be called up for something.
He's like, why am I in the drug administration right now?
I didn't do anything, but they sat him down, sure enough, in front of a television at the time, and they played back this footage they had caught on FLIR technology.
This was being used by an aircraft that was being operated by this task force, because what they thought they were chasing in the airspace above Campeche was Narcos.
And it would have made sense to be Narcos at first because that region, since it borders with Belize, you could have a quick flight over this region to the ocean that's just above that region and you would be out of Mexican airspace and over the sea on the way to the United States pretty quickly.
Well, they trained their cameras on something they were picking up on Fleer, and they couldn't see it with the naked eye, which is a very unique property to UFOs and is similar to the Tic Tac UFO case.
When they were told by their captain to follow the object, they suddenly realized there was six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven UFOs that surrounded their craft.
And they actually started to get a little bit afraid.
And they left the area because they were overwhelmed.
And one of the UFOs followed their craft.
And he was given this footage from the military.
Then he was allowed to interview the captain The personnel that were operating the investigative flight over the Campeche region that were on the aircraft, the FLIR camera operator, and they testify.
It's all in my documentary, Mausanne's UFO Files, and they say, quite honestly, we'd never seen anything like this in our lives.
We know for a fact...
What a plane should look like in FLIR technology and we should be able to see it with our human eye, especially when we are within the certain proximity of where this was flying.
And yet we weren't able to see it with the human eye and it was moving oddly and making flight patterns that are different from any aircraft we know and only coming up in FLIR. So that was an incredible case and I think it's been used on like secure teams videos and Hundreds and hundreds of times it's been used internationally to show
UFOs in a different light spectrum than the human eye can see.
And it was quite interesting that no one's really investigated that incident and shown that on sort of a North American audience where the history of that case comes from.
Those were two surprising cases.
There's so many more cases.
That volcano region in Mexico that Jaime was speaking about earlier, that he and his team actually own two cameras that provide live webcams of year-round and record UFOs going into the volcano.
That's a really interesting case too.
Short form is called Popo.
Volcano Popo, but it is pronounced Popocapital.
It's a really unique name, but that volcanic region has been known for years to draw UFOs, to have some strange electromagnetic resonance that have been picked up by computers over the years.
And when that electromagnetic disturbance is happening, sure enough, there's UFOs in the sky and people have caught them on camera.
I'm going to be covering that in an episode coming up in the Beyond the Spectrum series.
And yeah, there's some other incredible cases.
The Virginia incident I'm actually going to be covering in the Humanoids episode that we're releasing soon.
I wanted to ask you about whether, you know, Jaime is actually, you know, he started our conversation by referring to this Popocatel volcano and the UFOs sighted there.
But I'm wondering, because we've had sort of some renewed volcanism and earthquakes, and the two are very linked, So I wanted to ask him, I guess he's gone off to a phone call, unfortunately, at the moment, but I just want to footnote that because maybe you know this, whether he's filmed it recently, like how recently?
There's footage from 2017, 2016.
It's like almost every year there seems to be a piece of footage that pops up.
I don't know if there's one for 2018.
He'd have to speak to that when he gets back.
Sorry that he is stepping away from his desk, but he obviously is running a studio, so they're filming and creating shows every day of the week, so I think it's something that is not just that
volcano, for example.
There's a pretty famous UFO video Of a orb that is seen flying into a volcano in Costa Rica, which I believe is called the Arenal Volcano.
And in terms of seismic activity and what's been going on recently, I don't know.
I know that when the volcano erupted, Back in December, sometime in the 2000s, when his team predicted that there might be an eruption coming up, they were looking at the electromagnetic frequencies that were being released by the volcanic region.
And every time that they saw UFOs coming into the area at the time, the volcanic, so that the magnetism, the The electromagnetic frequency would reduce, it would peak, and then it would reduce when the UFOs came around.
And I think part of the puzzle for why that erupted was that they saw that going high, the peaking of this energy, and no UFOs were present, no UFOs were coming around.
around it seemed like they were almost coming and siphoning some of that energy out um and or at least that's what they were hypothesizing at the time and because no ufo came around they thought hey maybe this one's gonna blow because all this energy is building up ...
Okay, I don't know if it's bleeding through, but unfortunately he didn't mute himself, so I'm not sure what's going on there.
But at any rate, I can see his desk.
It looks like he's still not back at his desk, so we'll just continue this at the moment and hope he does come back at some point.
Yes.
I will sort of interrupt you in midstream if we do get him back.
I'm not sure how much time he has to be interviewed today, so we want to make sure to get him front and center as much as possible.
Do you happen to know how much time he has?
I think we're both going to have to wrap up pretty soon, but we were supposed to do this for about an hour, but he might potentially have to step away now.
I'll message him though right on his phone there and see if we can get him to come back for a second.
Okay, that would...
Sorry about that.
Anyway, I am not sure if Jaime's phone call is bleeding through onto the show, so that's a bit problematic.
So yeah, if you can get word to him to come over to his computer and mute himself until he can come back with us.
That would be great.
I'm just reaching out to him right now.
Thank you.
And let me know once you're done.
I do want to say that for those listening, there are some fabulous videos.
I'm not sure if they made it onto YouTube showing the UFOs all over Mexico and South America.
The skies are literally full of UFOs.
It's unbelievable.
Okay, so Jaime, Hello, Jaime, can you hear us?
Yes.
Okay, so just in the future, if you do get a phone call, if you could mute your Skype so it doesn't bleed through, you obviously don't want to share your phone call with the rest of the world, do you?
No, it was a radio station.
You know what is happening now in Nevada.
Everybody's talking about it.
What is happening now with Chico Javier, this prophecy.
I've been receiving calls all day long.
Every time that something happens here in Mexico, Latin America, even from the Spanish speaking station from the US, I received many, many calls.
I'm sorry.
Because they were live on the radio national in Mexico.
And I have to respond.
Sorry.
Okay, no, it's no problem.
Can you explain what is this Javier thing going on in Nevada?
Chico Javier, let me explain.
He is a medium.
No, no, no.
One thing is what is happening in Nevada that I will explain.
The other thing is Chico Javier, he's a medium, Brazilian.
He died like 20 years ago, but he wrote a book.
And he said that 50 years after the arrival of the humans on the moon, we would have contact with the ETs.
Then people think in Mexico, and in many other places, that we're going to have contact this coming Saturday.
And it's so hot.
And I'm trying to explain to people that, no, I don't think it's going to happen this coming Saturday.
But what is happening, I mean, in the last few weeks, We have so many incredible sightings.
Incredible.
There is one in Krasnodar just a couple of weeks ago.
Amazing.
There is one in Israel.
Amazing cases.
I mean, something is really happening.
I don't know if what this man said is going to become real.
Or is this part of what he said?
I don't know.
Because he was a medium.
He took something to cover his eyes and then he started Writing, and he said that he was not writing.
Somebody else was doing it for him.
That's the way he did all these prophecies.
And many of them have become real.
But I don't think this one is going to become real.
But at the same time, something is going on.
Something is really going on, and we should be Alert of what he said.
Okay, so has it been 50 years?
You said it has been 50 years.
50 years from the arrival of the man to the moon in New York, July 20th, 1969.
Okay.
2019, and it's 50 years.
But is this going to happen?
No.
But is this going to happen over the next few weeks, the next few months?
Probably.
Let me tell you about one incredible case.
I don't understand why nobody, and I mean nobody in the U.S., investigated that.
We did it.
We found the witnesses, three different witnesses, on December 19th, 2018.
Four o'clock in the morning, a huge, and I mean a huge pyramid flew above the Pentagon.
Stayed there for almost an hour.
The videos are incredible.
The videos are real.
These people didn't know each other and they gave me the same kind of testimony.
I am completely sure That this was real.
And I told everyone back in December, this is important and something is going to happen after this.
And we had all these things that are going on around the Pentagon in 2019.
If you want to check it out, you can go to Constantin.
And you can see this pyramid.
Quite nobody did any investigation.
I don't think we know about when.
Is this on YouTube?
It is on YouTube.
You can try to find the interviews I made.
Two of the interviews, I made them through email.
But one of the interviews was a Czechoslovakian man who was taking pictures at the Arlington cemetery.
Four o'clock in the morning and then he saw this object and with a very large Nikon camera, he was able to see this amazing UFO. And I mean amazing because it's 100 or 200 or 300 meters long.
It's huge.
Exactly the same that flew over the Kremlin on December 9th, 2009, 10 years ago.
Amazing.
I do remember that one.
Well, that's very interesting.
And so I can tell you that one of our witnesses, Pete Peterson, I don't know if you knew who he was, but He worked with the Pentagon and he was a scientist on what we call black projects for a long time.
He died very recently, just a couple of weeks ago.
And right before he died, he told David Wilcock that he was going to be able to come out and speak about whatever he wanted, he thought, in the next six months.
That in six months' time, some big change was going to happen.
And he was going to be able to talk very freely, where up to then he was not able to.
Unfortunately, he then died right after that, like literally, I guess a week or two after that statement.
But it does look very interesting.
Are you following, Jaime, are you following the releases of documents from the CIA individual's Eric Davis, the Wilson, the Admiral Wilson document.
Have you heard about this, that Rich Dolan and Grant Cameron have made public?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
And also the Kit Green coming out, a document 12 pages long where Kit Green actually Back in 2001 and earlier also said that the alien autopsy was real and that it was an alien back in 2001.
So these two documents are pretty remarkable from some people's standpoint, although I think it's pretty standard information about reverse engineering alien craft.
Have you looked at those documents?
Yeah, some of it's what Richard Dolan presented.
Yes, I did.
Okay.
And did you think that it was authentic?
Yes, I think it was.
I think Richard is a great investigator.
He was very impressed by them.
And even though, as you say, it's somehow standard knowledge, at the same time, it's official.
And it's telling us that this investigation I don't know how you said that in English.
They were taking parts from UFOs to use them as new technology on the new developments.
Yeah, I think it is real.
I think it is the same that Philip Corso said long ago, exactly the same.
From the very beginning, from the early 60s, the United States is using this technology in different ways, military and commercially, this retroengineering.
But it's real.
I really do, it's real.
Yes.
Well, and now someone is asking again about the Nazca mummies.
We've already covered that topic, so people can go back and watch the video to our earlier discussion.
It's real.
I guess the question is, is there any new information about that topic?
Yeah, well, we're waiting for the bodies to be released to the University of Ica, who is going to investigate.
That's the newest thing around the Nazca mummies.
Unfortunately, some other bodies that were found were sold in the black market.
That's very unfortunate.
I tried to stop it and I couldn't do it.
Unfortunately, one of the bodies was sold to Spain.
It's all I know.
And they are big losses because this belongs to humanity.
And unfortunately, The people who found this think that they belong to them.
It's very unfortunate.
And since these things were not protected by the Ministry of Culture of Peru, they were lost.
It's very unfortunate.
Everything that has been happening in Peru is unfortunate.
From the beginning, the archaeologists didn't take this seriously.
Not even the government.
We went to the Congress last year.
We made a big presentation on November 19th, 2018.
We presented all the evidence.
All the experts presented what they found.
And even though this was not taken seriously neither by the Peruvian government or By other governments or the other officials around the world.
And that's very unfortunate.
There is nothing else we can do.
I have all the analysis that we've done in a Canadian research laboratory.
And so I can tell you that the case is real and we're waiting just for the confirmation from a university.
And it's a shame that when you have this kind of evidence, humans We cannot take this seriously and really make a powerful investigation, you know?
Absolutely.
Now, I wanted to ask you if you have an opinion about the fact that there are both positive and negative ETs and that the military, especially the United States military, what we call the secret space program, is quite concerned about certain invading species.
Have you come across this and what is your opinion?
No, I don't think there's any negative.
It's my opinion.
I know there are many people who think differently than me, but if there were something negative around these creatures, we knew already.
We would have known from long ago, and this has not happened.
I mean, probably some people can say all the abductions are real enough and bad enough to consider them negative.
But I, in reality, to humanity, this has not happened.
And this is what I think is my personal, as a journalist, my personal point of view.
Okay.
I'm going to have to go, my dear friend.
I have so much work to do here.
I have a newscast and I really do.
It's been a real pleasure to be with you.
I'm ready to continue this talk if you want me to do that in the future.
Thank you so much.
That would be really wonderful and it's been such a pleasure.
I want to thank Darcy Weir for having you on the show helping to make this possible.
And I will let you go.
We'll close the show down now.
And thank you both for coming on the show.
I'd love to have you back, separately or together, either way.
It's all good.
And thank you so much, Jaime, for your time.
No, thank you so much.
Sorry to be this busy, but I am still a journalist.
I hear you.
And that's a wonderful thing.
So take care.
And please have a great night, and good luck with your latest investigations.
And thank you, Darcy.
Thank you.
Yes, thank you, and we'll be back on in the future, especially when Humanoids is released and some other documentaries that we're working on.
Thank you.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Okay, so that is very lovely that we had our guests today, and I hope you enjoyed the show.
This was put together rather quickly and so hopefully everything worked and we are going to be uploading this to my main YouTube channel very shortly.
So thanks again for watching and listening and have a great day.
I will be back possibly even tomorrow as soon as tomorrow depends on what The information I get, because this is sort of a moving target and I am getting new information every day, and I have a couple of tentative arrangements made, so thank you everyone for watching.