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March 14, 2019 - Project Camelot

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INTERVIEW WITH LORIEN FENTON RE UFO MEGACON SPEAKER LINE-UP

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	Hi, everyone.
	I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and we're back at a different location because we had some glitches.
	We've been trying to use this thing called OBS, but it doesn't seem to want to work for our system.
	So even though I pay extra for this internet connection, Can't quite figure out what the problem is.
	So at any rate, very happy to have Lorian Fenton with me tonight.
	Known her for a long time and always wanted to have her on the show.
	And for some reason we never got round to it.
	So this is a great opportunity.
	And we're going to be talking about the conference coming up, which is called UFO Megacon.
	And it is going to be March 24th through the 30th.
	And so I'm going to We're good to go.
	Well, thank you, Carrie.
	And, you know, there's a method to my madness.
	I don't have a camera on this system because I do mostly live radio, and the bandwidth that gets sucked up by the camera just, you know, wasn't working for me.
	So I took it completely off, and I just never put one back.
	But here's the deal.
	What people can do now, instead of looking at my shining face there on your beautiful face next to mine, they can go to ufomegacon.com and follow through with all the different speakers we're going to be talking about today.
	So that would be wonderful, don't you think?
	Absolutely.
	And as a matter of fact, we have the ability to put your website on the screen.
	And we'll do that right now so that we can bring them over to your website.
	They can actually take a look at it and scroll around and we'll kind of follow along with you.
	So before we launch into all of that, do you mind telling us a bit about yourself and how you got into producing conferences?
	Because I know you've been producing conferences for a long time.
	It's all you and Bill Ryan's fault that I'm producing these conferences.
	Oh, that's good to hear.
	Yeah, no, I told Bill that the other day.
	I was just laughing because the bottom line is, if it wasn't for the Awaken Aware Conference 2011 in Irvine, California, I would never have done any of what I've done.
	I had an experience that weekend that changed my entire life, and I don't think you've ever heard about it, but It started out on Friday night when Axe, Duncan O'Finion's girlfriend at the time, said something on stage.
	She said, yeah, I hear the screaming in the back of my head all the time.
	And I about fell off my chair, Carrie, because when I was in my early 20s, I was meditating.
	And I couldn't meditate beyond a certain point because I'd hear a woman screaming in my head at the top of her lungs.
	And I thought, oh, this is so strange.
	So I see a therapist, and she says, finally, after about two weeks of digging into it, she goes, well, you know, you told me when you were 18 months old, you ate rat poisoning and almost died.
	And I said, yeah.
	She goes, well, you probably were in the hospital screaming a lot.
	She goes, maybe it's a very old post-traumatic stress disorder trigger from being a baby and being...
	Now, what had happened is the rat poison was seeping through my veins.
	I know that's very graphic and ugly, but bottom line was they had to constrain me.
	So they put sandbags, little tiny sandbags all over my body to keep me from moving, just, you know, enough weight to keep me from moving around because they didn't want me thrashing around and having blood come through my skin.
	Long story short, it was not a pleasant experience for anybody, especially an 18-month-old child who's wiggling around a lot, right?
	So the experience she thought was a post-traumatic stress thing, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
	So I just stopped meditating and didn't think about it.
	Now, fast forward, I'm now 53 years old.
	I'm sitting in your or 50, 52, 51, something like that.
	I'm sitting at your conference.
	And she says that, and I just literally almost go off my chair, and I'm like, I'm looking around the room at that point to see if anybody else is looking around the room because I thought, I can't be the only one with this, right?
	And I just kind of flipped out.
	And then when it was all over, I was there with A. Solaria Liberalis, who you had interviewed on your radio show that May.
	And I had met up with her and said, let's go to the conference together.
	And by the way, Carrie, did you know that she passed?
	I don't know if you ever knew this.
	Solaris Blue Raven?
	No, no.
	A.
	Solaria Liberalis, who lived in Hawaii, the tall blonde lady.
	I don't know if you remember her, but she came with me to that conference.
	And you had interviewed her on your radio show.
	Anyhow, long story short, she said to me right when it was over, Duncan and Axe's presentation.
	She said, oh, my God, they have a piece to a puzzle I've been looking for.
	And we got to talk to them.
	And by this time, I'm kind of freaking out thinking, oh, I don't even think I ever want to talk to them.
	right?
	And here's the kicker to all this.
	When I was driving down to your conference, I started thinking about hearing Duncan O'Finian on the radio show on Coast to Coast, and he was on with, oh my God, Dave Corso and quite a few other people at different points.
	He'd been on the show, and I kept thinking, why don't the super soldiers have their own conference?
	Now, I come from a background of producing...
	Big non-profit conferences, big corporate conferences, lots of conferences.
	So I've been doing it for a very long time, like 35 years now.
	So I thought, hey, why not do one for them?
	So stupid me, I get down there and I just mention it to a couple of people.
	So by the end of the weekend, everybody is coming to me saying, I want to be in your super soldier conference.
	But that's besides the point of what happened to me.
	I finally ended up confronting, not confronting Axe, but...
	Asking her, I just ran into her and I said, you know, we're talking pleasantries, we're talking about the Super Soldier Conference, what have you.
	And I finally looked her dead in the eye and I said, what about the screaming thing?
	And she looked at me and, Carrie, if she hadn't said this to me in that moment that weekend, I would not be here talking to you right now because I would be like most of the rest of the people involved in the super soldier mind control community.
	I probably would still be looping around in my mind going, why me?
	What can I do to get this to stop?
	Blah, blah, blah.
	And I'm not.
	And the reason I'm not is because she said to me these words.
	She said, Lorian, maybe you don't want to know about it.
	And I thought to myself in that moment, oh my God, I don't have to know.
	I don't even care.
	What's the point?
	Right?
	I mean, there's really no point to knowing this.
	And it's not going to change the future.
	It's not going to change the past.
	It's not going to change now.
	I'm just not going to deal with it.
	And, you know, it's served me really well since then because so many things have come at me.
	And one other thing that happened that weekend was that I got home on Saturday night to...
	You know, change my clothes and do whatever, get ready for the next day.
	And I thought, oh my God, I haven't checked my email.
	So I pop open my laptop.
	I'm thinking about an incident that happened with Asa Loria and I, and she's in the next room.
	We're at an Airbnb house near the hotel.
	And...
	Suddenly, that incident that happened, happened again at the house we were in.
	And what it was, was the helicopter had appeared low over the house and turned on its sound, and it had done that back in the summer.
	And now it's, what was that, September 22nd, 23rd, I think?
	Yeah, so it was that September.
	So a couple months later, I hear a helicopter over the house that I'm in in Anaheim, And I got a download that we can carry that will blow your mind.
	I'm not going to go into it now.
	But I look out the window to look for the helicopter, and it's not a helicopter.
	What it is is three orange orbs very low in the horizon right over the house in the shape of a triangle.
	And I back away from the window, and then the next thing I know, I'm thinking, oh, I'm tired.
	I'm going to go to bed.
	So...
	We're pretty sure I was taken or something happened, but who knows what it was.
	I don't know and I honestly don't care because I can't remember it anyhow.
	And I'm not going to do hypnosis, so there you are.
	And the next morning I asked everybody at the house, hey, did you hear the helicopter over the house?
	And not a person did.
	And believe me, they would have if it had been there in reality.
	And then one final note to that weekend.
	That's the weekend I met Max Spears.
	And we had an extraordinary experience together that I'm not going to go into now, but it was absolutely, insanely wild, and that was the beginning of starting the Super Soldier and Mind Control Conferences.
	We did one in 12, 13, and 14, and then after that, it just got too dangerous for me to be doing it.
	So we may not ever do one again.
	We may.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	Well...
	There's been a lot of stories around everything that happened.
	Right.
	Well, we had some strange things go on at the Super Soldier Conference, and I do remember that.
	And I remember that Miles Johnston talked a lot about sort of a...
	I'm not sure what he was trying to call it, but it was some kind of intervention or...
	Mass abduction that he thought happened at that conference.
	I was not part of it, but a lot of other people seem to think it did happen to them.
	And it happened to Michael Prince and some people thought perhaps Michael Prince was instrumental in it.
	And I guess Max was involved and certainly Miles and other people that Miles connected with.
	So that was one weird thing that happened.
	Now, I know that people would like to know, you know, Max Spears is quite a, I don't know, a beloved individual, I would say, on the scene.
	And so if you had an experience with him, can you share some of it?
	And if not, why not?
	I really don't know.
	I don't want to go into it too much, Carrie, because it's pretty private on many levels.
	But I will tell everybody this.
	It was basically, from my point of view, it was a complete download, like a full movie, about our different lifetimes together in different ways.
	Parallel dimensions, and I'll leave it at that.
	And in one dimension that I was absolutely shown, there's involvement by some kind of Nazi faction, and they were doing a breeding program for super soldiers, and that is the incident where I found out where the screaming came from.
	Because I was being tortured in one of those timelines.
	And I finally figured out what that was all about.
	So that was amazing.
	And someday it will be in my book.
	And I've talked about it at a few events.
	Not in detail.
	But I will eventually go into great detail in a book.
	And we'll see what happens.
	I don't like talking about it.
	I'm not like the rest of the people out there who has to share everything with everybody.
	I think it's very private, and it's really between me and Max.
	And I did talk to Max, actually, in 2015 or 2016, because he was living near me at the time.
	So was Michael Prince and Haley and everybody and Sarah.
	And I did ask him, I said, someday I want to share this, but I don't want to do it.
	Maybe you should do it when I'm gone, because I figured he'd outlive me, right?
	So, because I'm quite a bit older than he was, and Max said, you know, I think it's fine.
	If you ever want to share it, it's okay.
	And I said, no, you know, I really don't like talking about it, but if it's okay with you, if either one of us goes first, the other one tells the tale.
	And he said, that's great.
	That's fine.
	So, unbeknownst to me, he was going to die a few years later, and I'm still fighting with whether I want to reveal all of this or not.
	Alright, well, no pressure, no pressure.
	No problem.
	So why don't we move a little bit further on here and so this is how you got your start and it's kind of a an interesting story and we're not going to know all of it right this minute but perhaps we can look forward to your book and so at this point maybe you should tell us a little bit about how the whole idea for this particular conference came about And some of the...
	I guess you've been having some wild times trying to put it all together and make sense of what's going to happen.
	And I know that John Lear has been...
	You're making me laugh because this really happened because of Melinda Leslie and Bob Brown.
	I'm at a conference in November last year and I had talked to Bob several years in a row and he kept saying, yeah, maybe at some point I'll do something again.
	But he goes, I'm on a...
	I have a seven-year or eight-year non-compete with Alejandro and John Rau at International UFO Congress because that's who he sold his original conference to.
	And I said, yeah, I get that.
	So if you ever want to do anything, Bob, let me know.
	I mean, that was pretty much the end of the line.
	And then Melinda and I were getting off an elevator last November and we saw Bob and I said, hey, if you ever want to do anything, let me know.
	And he goes, well, I'll think about it.
	And I'm just like, okay, cool.
	We just kind of We pressured him, kind of twisted his arm a little bit, you know, and Melinda was laughing as we walked away and she goes, would that be something if you and Bob did something together?
	And I'm like, yeah, that would be.
	I never thought it would happen, honest to God.
	So in July, I get a phone call and it's Bob and he says...
	Melinda just called me and said, you'd really want to do a conference.
	He goes, guess what?
	My non-compete's over.
	I think we can do it.
	What do you think?
	And I said, oh my God.
	I said, I have so many parameters about what I will and will not do.
	I said, first of all, I won't bring in anybody that's known.
	I said, I don't want them at my conferences.
	And he agreed with me on that level.
	And folks, it has nothing to do with them being famous.
	What it has to do with is I don't know if I can stomach one more conference where I hear the same thing over and over again from the same people.
	And, you know, it's nothing against them.
	They all have great stories.
	They have interesting things to say.
	They do a lot of research.
	They try to give us something new as often as they can.
	But what really strikes me is how people who have made ufology their livelihood can get on a stage and tell these outlandish tales.
	And then you're wondering where it came from because it certainly wasn't in their story two years ago.
	So I wonder if they're not made up to get them back on that stage again and getting that $1,000, $5,000, whatever stipend they're getting for being there.
	So it really gives me pause.
	So...
	I told Bob this.
	I said, Bob, I don't know if I can do that.
	I said, my integrity is on the line here, and I just don't know.
	He didn't look at me, but he smiled over the phone.
	I could hear him smiling, and he says, Lorian, that's exactly what I want to do.
	I want to bring in all new people that no one's ever heard of before, except for, you know, we'll have two, three, four people.
	That people know about that are kind of stars in the business or what have you.
	But if they're coming to our conference, they're going to do a whole new presentation they've never done before.
	And we're going to vet them and make sure that this isn't something that, you know, they've talked about in the past that they're just rehashing for us.
	And I said, great!
	I love the idea.
	So that's how it all really started, was that we both envisioned kind of bringing back a blast to the past of the 90s, where you used to go to a conference, and I know you remember this, Carrie, you'd go and there'd be like, It's all new information.
	I love it, and that's what we're doing.
	Okay, well, good to hear.
	So, along those lines, and of course, John Lear and, well, myself, he's certainly in known quantity, and so am I in a certain realm, although I'm not speaking, so you're not really hearing my presentation.
	And I'm actually banned from most of the conferences anyway, so that is why I do my own conference.
	Sorry?
	I said you're never going to be banned from our conference.
	Oh, good to know.
	Okay, but this is why I do my conferences in England.
	And so that's kind of, you know, and I've also spoken in Europe and in China and all the other places, but not so much in the United States.
	Alright, sounds good.
	Now, what I'd like to do with you is actually go down your list, because since people don't know who these people are, and I don't know if that's true of everybody, but let's take a look and see what you've got there, and I think people would be very interested.
	Yeah, let's start with Bill.
	Bill Ryan's going to be there, and Carrie is so excited about it.
	Am I? Alright, thanks for letting me know how I feel, but okay, we'll go with that.
	Bill's going to talk about the beginning days with Carrie and Project Camelot and some of the things that happened to him.
	He said he's going to try not to do anything that Carrie would be upset about.
	That was the first thing out of his mouth.
	I'm so looking forward to it because I had Bill on my radio show this Monday.
	He was my special guest and he told me, he goes, Lauren, I haven't been on a radio show in years and the last one I was on was Dark Journalist many years ago and he goes, I just haven't been out and about and I'm so happy that I'm kind of coming out again.
	And he's going to talk about the past.
	And I think that's wonderful because I don't think a lot of people know about what the struggles you two went through in the beginning and some of the insane things that happened to you.
	And I'm really looking forward to what he's got to say.
	And it'll be great for both of you.
	I promise, Carrie.
	Oh, well, that'll be fun.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm having dinner with him.
	We're going to actually me and my partner, Neil, are going to meet him on the Saturday night.
	And so that should be fun as well.
	I won't be around for his speech at your conference.
	I think he's speaking on the Wednesday, if I remember.
	But, in fact, I'll try to get your schedule up here on the screen while I'm sort of putting this website up here while we're talking.
	So maybe you could go on to the next...
	Now, everybody knows Calvin Parker's story that is, you know, over 50.
	We all know Calvin's story, the Paskaluska event and what happened to him and his friend Charlie, I can't remember his name right now, and the robot beans and everything.
	But what Calvin's really going to focus on for our conference is It's what happened to him afterwards.
	Because like he says, people always ask me about the event.
	They never ask me about what happened afterwards, about the contact afterwards, the downloads, the craziness, all the things that happened after this whole thing went down.
	Because once you're a contactee, and you know this, Carrie, once you're a contactee, always a contactee.
	It may not happen often, but you are never let out of the loop again.
	So...
	That's going to be a very interesting presentation.
	And then we're going to move on to Cheryl Costa.
	She's got a whole new...
	She has done the UFO sightings report desk reference, and she is bringing with her a whole new...
	Information about that book itself.
	She's got a whole new years that she's added to it.
	So I think the first desk reference went to 2011.
	I think she's now beefed it up from 11 to 15 or 15 to 18, something like that.
	She's going to bring that, but that's not what she's talking about.
	She's going to talk about what it's like being an investigative journalist for a newspaper back east writing about UFOs and what she has encountered in all of this, all the situations she's been in.
	She's talked to journalist schools and what they told her about being a UFO reporter and what she's learned from people about why they can't publish what she has to say and...
	It's going to be a very interesting presentation, but it's going to be very different than a UFO presentation.
	It's going to be what it's like being somebody that writes about ufology.
	So I'm very excited about that, too.
	And then the next speaker is Dan Brock.
	He's talking about the AI that runs this planet and the multi-dimensional energetic aspects of human life.
	So I haven't seen his presentation yet and I haven't seen his PowerPoint, but I heard from somebody that saw it that they were blown away and that's why he is on our roster today because he's only given his presentation once.
	And it was the Sedona MUFON, and they called me right after it was over and said, Lori, you've got to have this guy at your conference.
	It'll just blow your mind.
	And I said, okay, great.
	So there we are.
	We did it.
	Folks, I can't tell you much more about him except for he seems like an amazing guy.
	I've talked to him on the phone a bunch of times.
	So that'll be interesting, especially AI. Artificial intelligence always grabs me.
	And then we have Daniel Sheehan.
	And Danny's going to talk about something he's never talked about before, and that is his basically personal views about what To the Stars Academy is all about.
	And I find this fascinating because who knows what Daniel Sheehan believes about these guys, but as we all know, they are a bunch of CIA spooks.
	I think Danny's going to expose some things he knows about them that we've never heard before.
	He's alluded to it.
	And he's being very clandestine about his talk.
	So I can't tell you much about it.
	All I can tell you is don't miss it because this will be a once-in-a-lifetime thing.
	I don't think he's going to go to other conferences and talk about To the Stars Academy.
	Because they don't want it to, you know.
	All right.
	Well, that will be very interesting and glad to hear that, you know, he'll be talking about that.
	I know that To The Stars has just made a recent announcement of some things that they're about to release.
	So it will be very timely.
	And I think, don't you have, am I mistaken, you're going to have somebody from that group on your stage later on in the week?
	I don't think so.
	Oh, all right.
	I guess maybe I got your conference mixed up with another one then, so no worries.
	I'll have to look.
	I don't think so.
	Oh, okay.
	And then we're moving on to Dave Beatty, and Dave has done, he's an Emmy-winning award producer, and he has done a new little documentary on, sorry folks, my phones are all ringing.
	I've got three of them here, and they're all decided.
	Yeah, it is a weird thing.
	It is weird because they don't call me any other time of day except when I'm on a show and they don't even know I'm on a show.
	So there you go.
	So anyhow, Dave's going to bring in his new little, what he calls a short documentary film about the Tic Tac event on the Nimitz in the Princeton.
	And I'm looking forward to that.
	And Dave, there's going to be there.
	He's going to bring his film in.
	It's about his life story.
	He's going to talk about it and what he's also going to do since he has shown this movie other places.
	He's going to talk about some of the things that have happened to him since the movie came out.
	And believe me, folks, there's a whole story to that that's going to be quite fascinating.
	I can't wait.
	David O'Leary, who is the creator of the TV show Project Blue Book, will be there.
	Okay, wait, wait, wait.
	We just kind of went really fast right there, and I just want to back up a little bit.
	Dave Beatty is going to be doing what exactly?
	He's going to show his film.
	It's a short documentary film about the Nimitz and the Princeton's Tic Tac event.
	Okay, but those are the A-Tip.
	That is related to the group, to the stars.
	You do know that.
	Well, it is, but...
	So there's a link up.
	There's a definite link up there.
	But okay, that's what I wanted to do.
	I wanted to find out what we were talking about here.
	So he's a filmmaker who made a film, at least one of the films.
	I don't know if Two of the Stars has been using his film, but certainly that would be interesting for people to hear the background of that.
	And then you just jumped to David Adair.
	You're calling David Adair a filmmaker?
	Since when?
	David Adair is...
	He's showing his film.
	His film is called America's Fall from Space, and it's a documentary about David's life.
	And he has shown it in several venues throughout California, I believe, and a few other places.
	But what we decided to do is have him be there, talk about the film, and then talk about what's happened to him since he put the film out.
	It's very interesting what's happened since, because his film was basically a rebuttal.
	I don't know if very many people follow David, but...
	He was back in the day of all the conferences.
	A lot of people went after him and said he was a fraud and a fake.
	And I never believed that about David.
	I actually believe everything David's ever told me because he's a very interesting guy in that sense.
	Well, I've interviewed him a number of times.
	I've met him in person.
	We were both speaking in Yelm.
	And I can tell you that he's actually a scientist.
	That's what he really is.
	And an inventor.
	And he was tapped at the young age of 18 because he basically invented a drive engine that could, you know, and he's been in contact with a UFO, an alive UFO being kind of craft that was underground that he was brought in to see.
	And his story is on my channel.
	I've interviewed him.
	Like two or three times now, maybe even four times.
	So just for people to have some background on him, he's a lovely man.
	Everybody listen to those interviews with Carrie, and you'll have a great idea about what David's all about.
	And like I said, what we're going to do is we're going to let him, he's going to talk before his film plays, he's going to talk after the film plays, and he's going to tell us about some extraordinary things that have happened in the last six to eight months to him.
	Excellent.
	Well, he is absolutely hands-down brilliant.
	And the Secret Space Program wanted him on board, but he didn't want to play ball.
	Well, here's a little tidbit for you guys.
	I was at the Conscious Life Expo conference, and I was sitting with him and Jason Rice.
	David's new wife.
	And I just mentioned something casually to both Jason and David.
	I said, you both know that there's a lot of mind control around the secret space program.
	And I looked David dead in the eyes and he'll probably deny this until the cows come home.
	But I said, David, do you think they might have wiped your mind and gotten your propulsion system anyhow?
	Yeah.
	And there's no answer.
	So I'm just throwing that out to you guys.
	There's a lot of things that go on with the Mind Control and the Secret Space Program.
	That even the people involved may not know about.
	I'm just speculating, and it's huge speculation.
	But how else did they get that besides the alien craft that he was crawling on and other things that David was involved?
	So my gut tells me David was involved at some level, but maybe he doesn't even know it.
	Oh, he definitely was involved.
	He was, you know, wide awake and involved when he was a young man.
	But the thing is, he's also in touch with AI. And that's the alien AI that's part of the craft that he, again, he actually walked on it and touched it and then it turned on even though everyone else couldn't turn it on.
	So yes, there are many layers to that story.
	For the first time I think at our conference is how that has never left him.
	Right.
	Excellent.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So you got me back on track, Carrie.
	Thank you.
	David O'Leary is the creator, one of the co-creators.
	He's actually the creator of it, and he's the co-executive producer of the TV series on History Channel, Project Blue Book.
	And it just had its final show.
	Was it Tuesday night?
	Yeah, the last episode for this season was Tuesday night.
	And it's been quite a wild ride.
	And poor David, I got to say, a week and a half ago, they did the Betty and Barney Hill incident.
	But they did it so badly that people were up in arms about it.
	And it was the only episode out of nine at that point that was done not...
	They took a lot of poetic license.
	Let's put it that way, Carrie.
	Did you see it?
	Oh, no.
	I don't have a television, first of all.
	But second of all, I guess it would be on...
	I don't know if it would be on Amazon, Netflix, or YouTube, or what it would be on.
	But maybe eventually I could if I wanted to.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, it's a very interesting show.
	A lot of poetic license like X-Files.
	I don't really like the name, so I wasn't attracted to it because right away, Project Blue Book was such a cover-up that it's unbelievable.
	So I would be highly suspicious from the outset, but it would be interesting to see what this individual had to say.
	You know, it's all I've got to say is it's entertaining.
	And the one good thing that they did with it, and I've got to give them kudos for this, Carrie, is at the very end of the show, for 30 seconds to about a minute, they show black and white and footage or pictures from the real event that they did the Project Blue they show black and white and footage or pictures from the real event that they And they talk about it.
	They tell you what actually happened.
	Now, it's not even close to what they did in the show because they've got all these romances going on and they've got all these things going on that are all dramatic, you know, characterization of people.
	And they aren't even true to people, actually.
	But it is fun.
	And at the end, you get the real story.
	And I love that about the show.
	Okay, so Project Blue Book, are you saying that it's a television series that is, you know, fiction?
	It's fiction-based.
	I mean, it's fiction-based on nonfiction.
	Fiction based on fact.
	Okay, fair enough.
	That's interesting.
	Okay, so they took the name and then you're saying at the very end of every episode they show what it's based on.
	Is that right?
	Exactly.
	And they do it true to form, what was actually going on with that case.
	Very good.
	Okay.
	And I love that, you know, because they didn't have to do that, Carrie.
	They really didn't.
	So by doing that, it at least exonerates them from taking poetic license throughout the rest of Oh, actually, I'm a big fan of fiction based on fact.
	In fact, I'm in the process of making a bunch of television and movie pitches that are going to be just that because it's a good way to stay alive and it's a good way to tell the truth through fiction.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Yeah, it is.
	Anyhow, so David's going to be there.
	He's going to be on stage.
	He's going to be interviewed for the first time in this type of situation.
	He was at Comic-Con a year ago when they were promoting the event.
	The comic is going to be very different.
	He's going to be on stage being interviewed by George Knapp.
	And so that's going to be very interesting to see what George pulls out of his hat because he is watching the show just to, you know, kind of grill him a bit.
	Right.
	Okay, cool.
	No, that should be a lot of fun.
	That would be great.
	And then we have somebody that no one knows about.
	And I'm just going to say very few things about her.
	Her name is Dee Martin.
	And she worked for the government.
	And she had a very specific job with the government where she was doing psychic work.
	And that's about all I can say.
	And she's going to reveal what she can and what she can't.
	You know, basically allude to it.
	When she's speaking for us, and we just thank God she's showing up, because getting people like her to come forward and tell their story, very difficult to do, and she's going to try her best to work around her nondisclosure and talk about as much as she can.
	Okay, very good.
	Yeah, she's quite an amazing woman, so I'm just going to leave it there.
	Then we have Frank Kimler.
	He's an earth science professor, At the New Mexico Military Institute, but that doesn't even tell the story.
	He has Roswell artifacts from his research out in the Roswell area, and he's found a ton of stuff out there.
	I mean, he goes, yeah, they may have combed it, but they didn't comb it very well.
	There's still dandruff.
	Okay.
	So what do you mean by that?
	He goes, I've got all kinds of stuff.
	You won't believe it.
	So he's actually bringing pieces of craft ships and rocks that were incinerated and melted back together.
	And he's got metallic fragments and these bake-like, they look like plastic, these melted and remelted at these temperatures that we don't even make on this planet anymore.
	He's had them tested for that.
	Right.
	Now, actually, as we're going along here, you're not actually saying what day these people...
	Are we like moving from, say, is it Sunday or Saturday until...
	I'm just going through all the speakers.
	Oh, so they'll have to look at the schedule to see what day they're speaking.
	They absolutely need to look at the schedule.
	And each person on the schedule has a description about what they're talking about.
	So what I'm telling you now is kind of a little recap.
	Right.
	We're showing, just so you know, we're showing the people as you talk about them.
	Oh, great.
	Wonderful.
	Great.
	So Frank's going to bring all kinds of fun little trinkets and stuff that he swears are from spaceships.
	And, you know, God bless Bob Bigelow, but I think Frank's got the goods on the meta material here.
	Okay, very good.
	So we'll see what happens.
	And then it's Gary Voorhees.
	Oh, God, what a brave guy.
	All these guys, on Wednesday night, we have a military witness panel.
	We're kind of calling them whistleblowers, but they're mostly witnesses.
	And they are going to whistleblow a little bit about one of them.
	And I can't tell you much about it because they've asked me not to, actually.
	All four of them.
	One of them has seen, saw the tic-tac footage before the generals even saw it, and he's going to come out for the first time talking about that, and the others are going to talk about what's happened to them pretty much since the event.
	There is an operation within the military, and I think I can say this and not get in any trouble.
	There is an operation within the military to follow all the people that had actual sighting and kind of like first contact with that Tic Tac that was flying around.
	It wasn't one day, folks.
	It was two weeks.
	It was there.
	And there are some people on that ship that are now having extraordinary contact.
	And that's what they're going to start talking about.
	And they've never talked about it before.
	Oh, very good.
	Yeah, it's mind-blowing.
	And I can't discuss it because they've asked me not to.
	So I'm just going to leave it at that.
	But I'm telling you, don't miss that Wednesday night panel.
	If you're there for the first of the week or the second of the week, make sure you include that Wednesday because things are going to be revealed that have never been talked about before ever.
	And they certainly aren't going to get talked about on CNN or any place like that, even if disclosure is out there.
	This kind of contact will not be discussed because they don't want us to know about the aliens' presence.
	Sure.
	You know, yeah, real disclosure, right, Carrie?
	Sounds cool.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And then we've got George Knapp coming in.
	He's going to wrap up the finals.
	He's our final speaker on Saturday night before he does the interview on Saturday evening with Mr.
	David O'Leary from the Project Blue Book.
	He's going to wrap us up and he's going to tell us everything that's been going on with him and To the Stars Academy, Bob Bigelow.
	He's not going to go into extensive detail, but he's going to tell us all the new stuff that's been coming his way.
	Him working with Jeremy Corbell and the Skinwalker Ranch and Bob Lazar and just everything he can think of he's going to throw into a giant soup bowl and we're going to examine it and look at it with him and see where he's been in the last six months.
	All right.
	Sounds very good.
	So when you say the Saturday night, you mean the first Saturday night or the second?
	Don't you go from Saturday to Saturday?
	Is that right?
	Actually, it's Sunday to Saturday.
	What we're doing is we're just giving...
	Some free movies, like popcorn, on Saturday night, the 23rd, when they register, if they want to stick around for some movies or just get up to their rooms or whatever, we're there for them.
	Oh, right.
	Something to do.
	But Saturday night, the closing Saturday night, is when George is going to do most of his presentation.
	Okay, so almost a week later, really.
	Exactly.
	All right.
	Yep.
	Go ahead.
	Yep.
	Welcome to George Norrie, which is always a fan favorite, and George is going to come in and we do this game show.
	And I kind of came up with it, even though Tom Danheiser likes to say he came up with the idea, but it was really my idea.
	And what it is, is it's called Who's Telling the Truth?
	And George is the host.
	And there's four or five of us on the panel, and each one of us bring in a UFO item to the conference, and we show it to the other panelists, but we don't show it to anybody else.
	And we basically come up with stories that say, that's my item.
	Okay, so you hit me on the first thing and let's say there's a little UFO on the table and I'll tell you the whole story about how I got that UFO. Then Tom Danheiser is going to tell you how he got that UFO and then the next person will tell you the next person.
	One person from the audience is sitting in the hot seat and they have to decide who's telling the truth.
	And so at the end of the game, we do like five items.
	At the end of the game, each person who was guessing has to sit there in front of the thing and then say, and then one of us stands up who was telling the truth.
	And we kind of do like they did in the old, what's my line, where you kind of stand up and don't stand up and what have you.
	Then finally, the real person who owns that item stands up.
	And we stumped everybody the last time we did it.
	It was so much fun.
	It was great.
	And then George is going to come on stage with Robert Perala and my friends Malcolm and Linda Dane, and they're going to sing for us for about an hour afterwards.
	It's going to be a lot of fun.
	George is just going to do the crooners, and I'll probably be singing Elvis songs, and we'll all be happy.
	Well, that should be wild.
	All right.
	And then Geraldine Orozco.
	Oh my God, Geraldine.
	She's so amazing.
	She's been a friend of mine here in the Bay Area for a long time.
	And she spoke at my UFO conference last year to a very small crowd.
	And her story is in...
	I don't even know where to start.
	She is a hybrid mother.
	She has what I call the space babies.
	And she's got several space babies.
	And she tells a story that will blow your mind.
	And she's doing a new presentation, though, for us about how she was activated by the aliens around a whole DNA sequencing process that they used on her and several other hybrid mothers.
	And it'll be the first time this has ever been talked about on stage.
	So I'm very excited to see it.
	I know she's an amazing presenter, so I know it's going to be absolutely wonderful.
	And then the next person's Harry Drew, which we all know and love from his many, his much research, his much research, whatever, anyhow, his extensive research.
	into the Arizona crashes because there wasn't just Roswell, Kerry, as you know.
	There was the Kingman crash.
	There was the one over in Corona.
	I mean, there's two or three that happened that summer, actually.
	That's right.
	Yeah, and then there was the one, yeah, the 1953 Kingman crash, which nobody knows about, nobody really cares about, and he's done extensive research over there.
	He has First-hand eyewitness accounts, and it's going to be amazing.
	Whatever he's got to give us, it'll be stuff I don't know about, so I'm excited to hear it.
	Let's see, who's next?
	Oh, Howard Beatty.
	Howard Beatty's very interesting.
	He's a therapist up in Washington State.
	Who did an experiment, and that's what he's going to talk about.
	The experiment was all the people that came to him for hypnotic regression, he had them work as a group together to download information from the aliens, and then he wrote about it and did a...
	I think it's just fascinating what he was up to and he's going to talk about how it worked having people be hypnotized as a group or work as a group or do the channeling through the aliens as a group and he has new information out there that nobody else has too.
	communities have ever invited him to speak.
	And this was an extraordinary project and it's about time it came to light.
	So I'm very happy to have him there.
	He's, he's a wonderful man.
	And Jason Rice, I think you've had him on.
	Have you had him on your show?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Jason's wonderful.
	I'm not going to go into extensive detail.
	You can go listen to Carrie's interview of Jason.
	He is going to bring out some new information that he and I have just been starting to talk about.
	And I think that'll be fun.
	But he's going to give everybody the basics in his presentation about what happened to him, how it happened, and then at the end he will talk about the new things he's been discovering since about two months ago.
	Great.
	He's a very dynamic guy, so people will definitely enjoy him, and I do recommend my interview with him.
	I actually had two people on at the time, and both of them were very good, so I guess he'll be doing this by himself.
	Is that right?
	Oh, absolutely, yeah.
	I saw his presentation at Conscious Life Expo.
	And Carrie, you're not going to believe this.
	The room was only half full and he had a small room.
	And I was absolutely flabbergasted.
	Right.
	Because there was anyone there who had anything amazingly new to tell.
	But then you go off to, don't you get me started on these crazy panels of people that, you know, make a living at this.
	And, you know, the room's full.
	And I'm like, but they're not saying anything we haven't heard before.
	So I was shocked.
	So Jason and I talked about it and he said, I'd love to come to UFO Cause.
	We just added him right after I left Conscious Life Expo because I was so upset that he didn't get the audience he deserved.
	Fair enough.
	Yeah, that's good.
	That's lovely.
	Jason Turner, another one of the military witnesses, whistleblowers.
	I can't talk to you guys about what he's going to say either, but trust me, that's going to be something else.
	And then Jeffrey Mishlove, a lot of you might know him from his New Thinking Allowed channel on YouTube.
	He does a lot of interviews with people over the years.
	It's mostly consciousness and philosophy and psychology that he works in.
	But let me see what he's going to be talking about.
	Oh, yes!
	Oh, my God!
	I forgot all about this.
	Because we got him early on.
	I completely forgot what he was talking about.
	He's going to talk about working with the case of the PK man, Ted Owens, and what that was like.
	He worked with him for over a decade, and he wrote a book about him.
	Do you know about him, Carrie?
	You know, I don't know.
	I'd have to have my memory refreshed on that one.
	It's familiar, but I don't know.
	Yeah, it was back in 86.
	80s when this was all going on and it was all about this pk guy's ability all of his psychic abilities he was able to move objects he was able he got hit by lightning if i remember correctly the whole story i could have mixed up with somebody else a lot of psychokinesis and because of that whole incident that happened to him in the beginning whether it was lightning or he got sick i don't remember but he started having ufos appear around him too And not even on demand.
	It was just like they were there all the time.
	So Jeffrey's going to talk about that part of it because he's never really talked about it with anybody.
	Because whenever he got on a stage, people wanted to know about the psychokinesis and the psychic end of it.
	Oh, right.
	So that should be very, very interesting.
	Absolutely.
	Actually, I'm very excited about that one.
	That's going to be good.
	And then our next, I call him our culprit, is Jeremy Locklear Corbell because he's going to bring in the footage that got put on the cutting room floor during the making of the Bob Lazar movie, the Area 51 movie.
	Very good.
	Yeah.
	And he's going to talk about it.
	So, you know, I don't know what we're getting ourselves into with Jeremy.
	But I'm sure it's going to be very entertaining.
	And I'm sure he'll have some nuggets about Element 115 in there.
	And I'm sure we'll just have a blast around that one.
	So that'll be fun.
	Okay.
	And then Jerry Wills.
	Now, Jerry Wills hasn't spoken at a conference in many, many years.
	If everybody remembers the story about Jerry Wills, it's because he was the guy that was in Highland.
	It's not Machu Picchu.
	It was the other one.
	I think it was in Peru, actually.
	And he got onto one of the stair-step monuments down there, the big stair-step pyramids.
	And there was like a doorway in one of them, and it was very hard to get to because the stairs had broken off or whatever.
	But he crawled up there and got into it, and he was teleported to another dimension.
	And so, there you go.
	That was his beginning of his career.
	And since then...
	He's had UFOs following him.
	He's been given information by the aliens, and he hasn't spoken for so long.
	He said, Morian, I'm just going to get up on the stage and tell everybody what happened since the time I dropped off, you know, out of the whole thing altogether.
	And, oh, my God, they've been to Phoenix, and they've dug into a tunnel where they found UFO artifacts.
	I mean, it goes on and on.
	I mean, it's going to be so interesting.
	I can't even wait to hear him talk again.
	Absolutely.
	It's the 90s, I think, or the early 2000s.
	Right.
	Okay, that should be fascinating.
	And he's a major contactee and nobody knows that.
	Because that incident in Peru just totally changed him.
	You know, Carrie, I'm starting to think that there is a frequency, DNA frequency thing that happens with all contactees.
	Where they function at a little bit of a different frequency.
	And the reason why I'm saying that is because when I saw my big black triangle over the parking lot here in Petaluma, California, I'm with a whole group of people from my MUFON group.
	And only two of us saw the ship.
	Everybody else couldn't see it.
	Yeah.
	I would agree with you there.
	Yeah.
	So there's something going on with different types of people.
	So who knows what happened to him in that doorway in Peru.
	He probably got fine-tuned for the UFOs.
	So there you are.
	Okay, Jim Nichols.
	Now, I don't know if very many people know about Jim, but if you're looking at any of Joseph P. Farrell's art drawings or anybody who has any of the old Nazi ship drawings of the guys standing around and they're all line art and colorized from the late 90s, early 2000s, those are all Jim Nichols artwork.
	And what he's done is he's put together a documentary about himself.
	Instead of speaking, we're going to play a film about Jim.
	It's just like David Adair.
	It's all about himself, where he started in the UFO community, the drawings he's done over the years, how they were incorporated into books and articles and movies and TV, and just what basically he's done his entire life through his art.
	That's very lovely.
	Jim Nichols, I've interviewed.
	So if you want to go on Camelot, my YouTube channel, you can find him.
	And I can tell you that he was a very good friend of Bob Dean, the late Bob Dean, who's passed on now.
	And he's quite an interesting guy in his own right and a wonderful artist.
	And so that's great.
	You get to ask him questions about what it was like working with so-and-so.
	I think he's going to be a very important key to our events.
	We're trying to go back with some of the older people in the community, because honestly, Carrie, they don't get a lot of recognition anymore.
	Sure.
	You know, with all the YouTube stuff going on and people, they don't do YouTube.
	You know, they're just not those kind of people.
	And so I'm very happy to have Jim with us.
	It's going to be great.
	Now, our next speaker, you guys all know and love, it's Joanne Richards.
	And Joanne's going to give us kind of a new presentation that Mark has been putting together for the last month or two.
	And it's about the Secret Space Program and...
	Thank you.
	So that's where Joanne and I left a few months ago and I think it's going to be very interesting.
	And you've interviewed Joanne and she's been on your TV channel and has shows and you've also interviewed Mark now about 10 times?
	Yeah, I just actually am working on the 10th.
	We just interviewed him, or I did, on Sunday.
	So what is today?
	Wednesday.
	So yeah, hard at work on that one.
	And Joanne's a delightful speaker and will be bringing, I'm sure, some fascinating stuff to the fore.
	Wish I could be around for that.
	I think she's speaking on the Friday, if I remember correctly.
	I think so, too.
	Anyhow, we'll see what happens, Gary.
	And then, oh my god, my favorite guy.
	I am very good friends with John Barber, and most people in the UFO community go, who's that?
	And you have every right to, because he's known in the JFK community and not the UFO community.
	The reason I talked Bob into letting me have John there is because John did a movie called JFK Assassination and the Second Assassination of JFK, basically, is what it's called.
	It's got a longer name, but I'm leaving it at that.
	What it's all about is how the CIA and the media have covered up the JFK assassination since the day before the actual murder took place.
	And I watched that movie in Dallas at one of my conferences, JFK conferences, and I thought, oh my God, this is just like a total parallel to everything that's happened in the UFO community.
	I want people to see the names, the people, the companies, the magazines, the radio networks, the TV networks.
	I want to see all the work he's done.
	I want you just to apply it to UFOs, and you've got the same thing going on.
	And it's really important people understand that.
	So that's why I brought in that movie.
	John's going to be there.
	John is an Emmy Award winner.
	He is the father of reality TV. He's got five Emmy Awards for that matter.
	And he's an amazing guy.
	And he's so happy to be there and be part of the UFO scene right now.
	He goes, I never thought I'd venture over here, but he goes, it makes total sense.
	So he's going to be there to answer questions about anything, and it's just going to be a lovely night with John.
	So I hope everybody's excited about that.
	It'll take us over to the JFK world for a little bit, which everybody, by the way, if you pay attention to the JFK assassination, then you've got a lot of answers from the UFO community, too.
	So I'm just going to leave it at that for John.
	But he's an amazing guy.
	Fascinating.
	And then our buddy and our pal, John Lear, is going to be there.
	And John, you know, what can I say?
	I got a wild hair about two months ago, Carrie, and I thought, wouldn't it be amazing to have Carrie and John on stage together?
	Because I know you interview them all the time, and I know you guys are good friends.
	And I just thought, God, that would be so amazing, because I haven't seen John on a stage, Jesus, since, what, early 2000s, maybe?
	That's true.
	He doesn't speak so much at conferences, strangely, you know, because he has so much to say, but we've managed to get a lot of it out there.
	And he is a wild man.
	He is actually a prolific writer, which I don't think people realize.
	And he does post on Facebook.
	Like daily stories.
	Because he's got like endless stories.
	And he's also on the news group that I'm on right now.
	We're having a big argument about...
	Mark Richards and stuff.
	But, you know, John is a wild man.
	He's just a showman and just the most delightful man to watch and to listen to and to learn from.
	And, yeah, I'll be on stage with him.
	Hopefully we won't break anything.
	And, you know, that'll be Sunday night.
	That's March 24th.
	Yeah, you guys are our opening volley.
	I'm really excited to have him there.
	You know, John has been going after me for a couple months now.
	And I just, you know, what do you do?
	You just kind of say, okay, it is what it is.
	And I dearly adore the man.
	And you too, Carrie.
	And I told Bob, I said, look, it's not brand new, but it's going to be probably maybe the one and only time in the next decade we can get John on the stage.
	And I think we should do it.
	Yeah, I think it's wonderful.
	And he's promised to give a great show.
	And if he says that, I think he'll be good by his word.
	And I'll certainly be there to egg him on and to rile him up.
	and we'll see where we go.
	Don't put on your kid gloves now.
	Get those big boxy gloves.
	It's all good, yeah.
	You know, he is a very strong personality.
	So this is not a fading violet by any stretch.
	It doesn't matter how old he is.
	And I hope his health is going to be good for the event.
	And so it'll be a lot of fun.
	Well, I'm really looking forward to it.
	In spite of everything, I truly love John's pieces.
	So, there you go.
	Okay, Johnny Enoch.
	He's our next guy.
	Oh, my God.
	You know, what can I say about Johnny Enoch?
	He's one of the young guns out there right now.
	And he's done a lot of research into the Canadian versions because he lives up in Canada, Vancouver.
	The Canadian version of Area 51.
	He's been studying quantum physics.
	He's done near-death experiences.
	He's done everything that we can think of.
	He's actually leading tours to Egypt and Peru with Brian Forrester, which is really cool because I love Brian Forrester.
	He's from the ancient aliens category.
	He does the elongated skull type of research.
	So people check out Brian Forrester, but also check out Johnny Enoch, and he spells it J-O-N-N-Y, Enoch.
	And he's going to tell us a bit about the occult side of ufology.
	He's been digging into, you know, some of that stuff that you and I have heard about over the years about Parsons and Crowley and all of that.
	So, you know, I can't wait.
	It's going to be a brand new presentation for him.
	And so he's excited.
	I'm excited.
	It'll be good.
	And then we got Joseph Birx.
	Oh, my God.
	Dr.
	Joseph Birx, M.D., Now, he used to work with Stephen Greer, MD. And, you know, it's not that they're not friends anymore, but they've gone different directions in how they deal with alien contact.
	And they're both ER doctors.
	And I think they even worked together at one point, if I remember correctly.
	I could have that wrong.
	So don't quote me, folks.
	But he is an amazing guy.
	And what his real forte is...
	Is the healing modalities of the aliens for people that are sick.
	And that's what he's going to talk about.
	All the miraculous healings that have taken place with people who've had alien contact.
	And one of the things that he and I were talking about last time we got together, and I said, Joseph, I said, I think what's happening is all the contactees, every one of them could be healed of anything, but they're not asking right.
	And he goes, bingo, I think that's it too, because...
	The real truth is, Carrie, I've talked to a whole bunch of people like Phil Kava.
	He begged the aliens to cure his wife of cancer.
	And he wakes up one night and there's an alien coming out of a portal with a wand going over her body.
	And he startled the alien.
	The alien startled him.
	And he didn't finish what he was doing.
	The wife still had cancer, but she did finally go into remission.
	And I think that's amazing.
	I got a friend named Sam that begged to be healed.
	And this is the greatest story, Carrie, of all time.
	They healed him.
	They completely fixed his liver cancer.
	Everything's gone.
	But he was laying on the floor, and while they were working on him, he said, oh my god, my refrigerator's broken.
	Do you guys think he can fix that too?
	And lo and behold, the alien walked over to the refrigerator, touched it, and the refrigerator's worked ever since.
	So, I'm telling you folks, if you're a contactee, just remember to ask him.
	It's really important.
	That's what Joseph Birx is going to talk about.
	He's going to talk about all of his research into the extraordinary encounters beyond UFOs, which he did with Preston Dennett.
	Then he's going to talk specifically about the chapter where hundreds of people that responded to the free survey about their contact experiences and being diagnosed and then cured by the aliens of their ailments.
	So that's going to be amazing.
	I can't wait to hear that, too.
	God, I'm not going to get any sleep.
	Absolutely.
	Well, this is a pretty jam-packed week that people are going to be able to hear some amazing people.
	How far am I? I've got so many more to get through.
	Can I go faster?
	Yeah, go faster.
	It's all good.
	I don't even know how many you've got to go, but let's go.
	It's like forever.
	Kate Thorvelson, she is from Norway, and she is an amazing contact feed.
	I was on Skype with her.
	I'm going to tell you this, Carrie.
	It'll blow your mind.
	I'm on Skype with her and she starts pulling out magnets and she goes, yeah, I got an implant here.
	And then she takes the magnet, puts it about three or four inches away from her nose and it goes woppo and hits her in the nose and it's stuck there.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah, not a pretty picture.
	She's got all these implants that are magnetized.
	I don't know how someone fakes that.
	I'm sorry.
	It's just crazy.
	And so she's going to talk about all of her abductions, about finding out about all the implants.
	I mean, it's just, it's a crazy story.
	You guys have got to hear this.
	It'll blow your mind.
	She's going to do a demonstration on stage, and she's also going to have Steve Colburn go over her body and start mapping out all these different places and what kind of implant he thinks they are.
	So that's going to be really cool.
	And then we have you.
	So we'll be happy to know what you're doing, so that's fabulous.
	And then we got a guy that's going to be really entertaining for everybody.
	His name's Kerry Trent.
	He's not really a UFO guy.
	He had not an encounter, but the whole town he lived in, and I think it was Georgia, had a sighting one night, and then they all went out to see where it kind of was.
	They weren't sure what they saw in the sky.
	Turns out that the ship had landed in the parking lot at the Piggly Wiggly Market, and it melted the concrete in a circle.
	And so within 24 hours, that concrete was picked up by some company and replaced with all new asphalt.
	Isn't that interesting?
	I found that fascinating.
	Yeah, this sounds familiar.
	I wonder if I met this guy.
	You might have.
	I mean, it's a crazy story.
	And Sid decided just a few years ago that he liked UFOlogy and he wanted to write a book.
	He's actually an antique car collector.
	And he has a TV show in Philadelphia around antique cars.
	So, I mean, he's just one of these fun guys, and he wrote a whole book about Aurora, Texas, the crash, with the little alien.
	Oh, no, I had these guys on my show.
	That's, I didn't, because you called him Kerry Trent.
	I don't know him by that name.
	I know the last name is Haggard.
	So, yeah, so he has three names, actually.
	So, actually, technically, so...
	He was trying to use his Kerry Trent name for his UFO stuff.
	Oh, was he?
	Okay, well, yeah.
	No, there's two guys.
	There's two guys, and they wrote a book, and I had them both on my show.
	I like that little Texas UFO story, and I think it'd make a great movie, by the way.
	And, yeah, no, they're a riot.
	They're good guys, and this guy is, yeah, he's a funny, they're a funny combination.
	They are.
	They're wonderful.
	Well, he's going to be there.
	The other guy can't make it, but trust me, he's going to do Aurora, Texas, but he's going to do a couple of other things around cowboys and UFOs, and I'm just really excited to see it.
	It'll be fun.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, cool.
	So, yeah, he's an unknown quantity, too, except for you, and there you go.
	I mean, it's like nobody knows who these people are except for you and I, Carrie, I swear to God.
	And then the next person is Kevin Day, and he's going to be a big player in the whole To The Stars Academy TV show that they're coming up with called Intruders or something like that.
	The new one on the History Channel, they just announced it two days ago.
	And Kevin's going to be a main player.
	Now, he is one of the guys that was on the Princeton because he's in charge of the radar.
	And he had extraordinary contact with Tic Tac.
	And since then, he's had amazing things happen to him that he's never told about.
	So it's going to be very cool.
	Great.
	These guys are doing on stage.
	I'm very excited.
	He's a military witness, so, you know, grab onto your seats because that night's going to be wild.
	And then the next person is Krasanna Duran.
	Now, Krasanna, she comes from the Venus love family, I call them.
	They're all my buddies, like Rob Potter and Raymond Keller and all the guys that are like, oh, I've been to Venus and I love all the Venus people and I met...
	You know, who is it?
	Valiathor.
	And, you know, she comes out of that whole crowd of people.
	But she's done amazing research into a crop circle in Kennewick, Washington, that no one paid any attention to, that she's found gridline patterns around this.
	And found other things related to it that she thinks she's cracked the code for this one crop circle.
	So we're having her discuss that, some UFO activity, a little bit of Venus stuff, and I think she's going to be fascinating.
	Very few people have ever heard her speak, so...
	All right.
	Now, I got to tell you that we have some limited time here, and we did get started a little bit late, so maybe we can give you a little more time, but just want to say you've got a little over 30 minutes to get through the rest of these people, so you're going to have to really step on it, like one or two sentences, a person, you know?
	Gary, I swear to God, it's like my radio show.
	Okay.
	Now we're going to go faster.
	Okay, L.A. Marzulli.
	Everybody knows who L.A. is.
	I'm sure he is the guy who is on, he has his own prophecies.
	Oh my God, I can't remember the name of it right now.
	Prophecies something in whatever podcast on YouTube.
	He's an amazing guy.
	Looks like he's got 12 books called Nephilim Trilogy.
	I think I just, I've heard his name, but I don't think I've ever, you know, looked at his stuff or anything.
	So, interesting guy.
	He's got many books and many DVDs and videos.
	The guy has been around for a long time.
	I've known him for years.
	What we're going to focus on with him is his new UFO book.
	That's all I'm going to say about it at this point.
	Another thing that's happened, LA lost his home in the Malibu fire.
	He's relocated to Oklahoma.
	And if anybody's there and they want to support LA in any way, shape, or form, he would be so happy to just have you say, you know, I'm sorry about your loss kind of thing, and that would be great.
	I just, you know, he's an amazing guy, and he and his wife are going to be there, and I'm so thrilled.
	So we'll leave it at that.
	Then Malcolm and Linda Dane are entertainers.
	I'm not going to go into detail about them, but, you know, put on your hats, folks, because I think she's going to show up as Marilyn Monroe one night.
	Ha ha ha!
	I think that would be great.
	And then Mark B. Antonio.
	And everybody knows about Mark because he is the chief photo analysis guy for MUFON International.
	And he has been on so many shows.
	He's on a new show on History Channel called What's Blood on Earth?
	And it's where they do satellite observation of the earth and they find strange anomalies and then they have photo analysis guys and archaeologists and all kinds of people investigate what these strange structures are from space.
	And he is one of the stars of that show and so we're really happy to have him.
	But what he's going to talk about is something he's never talked about before in public.
	He had a near-death experience, and it will blow your mind.
	That's all I'm going to tell you.
	I mean, he had some people riveted for four hours at a dinner one night talking about this, and I caught the tail end of it, and I said, oh my God, you've got to tell the world what happened to you.
	So there we go.
	Marisa Ryan.
	She is a psychic and she talks with angels and she's also talking to aliens.
	So there's a big correlation between angels and aliens and she's going to talk about that and that'll be fun.
	And everybody knows Mary Rodwell.
	She's going to talk about the free information that she's been going over for the past year.
	Oh gosh, a couple of years now with Ray Hernandez and Dr.
	Rudy Shields and all the other people working with free organization.
	I'm not quite sure what she's focusing on.
	Let me see.
	Oh yeah, the new human awakening to our cosmic heritage.
	So that'll be very interesting.
	I'm always interested in what Mary's got to say, but it's a brand new presentation.
	Then we move on to Melinda Leslie.
	And Melinda's going to talk about her MyLabs experiences this time.
	She's adding new material.
	A lot of things have happened to her around her MyLab's experiences in the last five or six years that she's not talked about.
	I convinced her to start adding those new experiences in, and she's going to do so, and I think it's going to blow people's minds.
	I don't think very many people know of her as that person.
	She has been on your show several times, right?
	Yep.
	Yep, and I don't know, does she talk about her My Lab's experience?
	Yes, here and there, you know, because I know a bit about them and so I kind of encourage her to say a bit.
	But she's always been a bit reluctant to come forward with her own stuff.
	I think she's also, you know, she's kind of had a slow awakening of her own.
	She was there for other people and, you know, sort of exposing their stories.
	That was her, you know, kind of a little like me in that sense, focusing on other people, whereas I have my own story.
	We all, I guess we're all like that, you know?
	And so some of us are more focused on the other people.
	And so it's really fun to, I'm sure it'll be fascinating.
	She has some, she actually has some kind of creepy stories that have happened to her and stuff like that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Things she's never talked about.
	And I'm hopefully, I'm hopeful.
	That they will happen at this conference.
	So I think they will.
	And then the next person is Mike Merberg.
	This is the very first time he's ever spoken about this.
	The fun part about Mike is that he is an attorney, but he's also one of the ex-stars of The Biggest Loser.
	So you might have seen him on The Biggest Loser if you watch those kind of TV shows.
	And he's been a lifelong contactee.
	He has a farm, well, a ranch that he takes people out to in mid-Florida.
	And they do UFO sightings.
	And he has all kinds of crazy things to talk about.
	And he's never been, this is his very first time ever talking to anybody about anything.
	So this is going to be a good thing for him.
	And then Patrick Hughes, another one of our military witnesses who refuses to tell me everything right now.
	They're saving it for the stage.
	And then Peter Robbins.
	And Peter, oh gosh, early on, I said to Bob, I said, oh, we've got to get Peter back on the stage again.
	He hasn't been on the stage for years.
	And he says, well, he's got nothing new to talk about.
	I said, well, I'll see about that.
	I called Peter and I said, if you don't have anything new to talk about, you better come up with something fast because I want to put you back on the stage.
	And he started laughing.
	And he said, well, I do have something, actually.
	He goes, I've got all the notes from all the kids.
	It's gone out of my head.
	Give me a second, folks.
	Are you talking about...
	Well, he was associated with Rendlesham.
	He wrote a book called Left at Eastgate, and I've interviewed Peter Robbins.
	In fact, I interviewed him.
	He's on my first ever UFO documentary before really Camelot was officially started.
	I was already shooting my documentary, and Peter Robbins was one of my guests, and it's still on my channel, a UFO short.
	And Peters stars in it as one of the people, and he was quite a really serious researcher into Rendlesham.
	So I'm not sure if this is related to that or something else.
	It's not, actually.
	There's been a lot of controversy around the Larry Warren Rendlesham event, and Peters basically bowed out of that whole thing.
	But what he did do is he worked with Bud Hopkins for years.
	He was his assistant.
	Oh, right.
	And this is long before Rendlesham.
	And what he's doing is he did at the time, he did all the research with the kids of the parents that were being abducted.
	Bud did the hypnosis with the parents.
	He did all of the, he couldn't really hypnotize the kids, but he did all of the questioning, the interviews, the blah, blah, blah.
	And he's going to come out for the first time in 20 years of, Since they actually did any of this research, maybe it's longer, and tell the story of the children, what was going on with the kids, and he's going to do follow-up with those children now, what it's like 25 years later.
	Fascinating.
	Yeah, very good.
	It's the first time that's ever happened, of course, and so I'm really excited about this.
	Then the next person is Peter Smith.
	Now, Peter is a guy that worked with Michael.
	Gosh, I... Michael Newton.
	The Michael Newton Institute of Life Between Lives.
	I think everybody knows about that.
	He's the Australian version of Michael Newton's group and he runs it and he's going to talk about his experiences with people that have had conscious memory coming into this life about past lives and he's going to talk about his own experiences.
	Great.
	They call it the Institute for Quantum Consciousness.
	He believes there's a quantum consciousness that runs at all the different timelines that pull us all together into being in this body in this moment that we think we're in.
	But it also pulls us, you know, the strings are also pulled for us being in other lives at the same time.
	Oh, yeah.
	I agree with that.
	I agree with it, too.
	So I'm like, oh, my God, this is going to be so cool.
	I can't believe you're going to have Rick Doty speak.
	I can't believe he's speaking.
	That's a riot.
	Oh my god, I know.
	Sorry I'm skipping ahead here.
	Yeah, I know.
	We'll get to Doty, okay?
	Is he trying to look like Hitler or what's going on with the mustache?
	I know.
	Lose the mustache, dude.
	But anyway, sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	No, you know, he's actually, you know, he's actually, you know, a very astute guy, and he will probably be a fascinating speaker to have.
	He's going to be.
	He's really going to be.
	But let's hit Raymond Zemanski first.
	Raymond has written the book Fifty Shades of Grey's, Evidence of Extraterrestrial Visitation to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and Beyond.
	And that's what he's going to talk about because I've interviewed Raymond a couple times.
	And every time I bring his name up, people don't have a clue who he is, what he's talked about.
	And I just said, you know what, we're bringing him in because people need to be educated about these experiences of all these people at the Air Force Base that he was able to get firsthand accounts.
	Great.
	So I'm very, yeah, very...
	It's going to be cool.
	Whatever he does is going to be cool.
	Then we have Ray Hernandez, and everybody knows that Ray is the founder, one of the co-founders of Free, the Edgar Mitchell...
	Carrie, help me.
	I've got to go find it.
	Well, it's a...
	The Edgar Mitchell Foundation of Racial Industrial Experiences, I think.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	But I know what you're talking about, yes.
	Yeah.
	So he's one of the founders, and he's going to talk about his extraordinary experience, but what people don't know is, because Ray's talked about it a million times, is that they've had so many more experiences that he never talks about.
	So I said, Ray, you've got to just tell people about the new stuff that's happened to you, and he said, I'd be glad to do that as long as I can tell a little bit about the free organization.
	I said, sure, so that's what we're going to do.
	So that'll be fun.
	And then Richard Doney.
	Now, Richard has promised me That he's going to talk about a case that he's never talked about before.
	It was out of Area 51.
	It has nothing to do with the Benowitz case, which he's very famous for.
	And there's a lot of controversy around him.
	When we say Carrie, him driving Benowitz crazy.
	Yeah, but under orders.
	I mean, Rick Doty works jointly for the CIA and the DIA. So, you know, whatever he's basically under orders to do.
	Yeah, but I don't think that was part of the gig.
	And I think, you know, honestly, I think Rick has always been torn up about what happened.
	And he did try to warn Benowitz near the end of the whole experience that this was a setup and you're being set up.
	And please don't, you know, don't get obsessed about this because it isn't real, you know, basically.
	I'm sorry to say, I kind of feel bad for Rick because the deal is, if someone is already obsessed and heading towards the deep end, it's really hard to head them off.
	Also, he should not have done what he did, but if you're ordered to do it, you're ordered to do it.
	I didn't think...
	That there was anything nefarious towards Benowitz happening at the time.
	But I think it just snowballed into something ugly.
	And I think Rick feels guilty about it.
	That's my personal opinion, Carrie.
	Yeah, no problem.
	And it may be.
	Again, he was a lot younger then.
	And the whole UFO thing was younger then.
	And I think Benowitz got caught in the crossfire.
	Yep.
	You know, it's very possible that Dodie didn't even know what he was dealing with at that point.
	You know, he's probably a lot older and wiser at this point.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And like he says, he's going to talk a little bit about that, but he's not going to dwell on it, and he's going to talk about other cases that were happening at the same time that nobody even knows about.
	So I really applaud him for having the guts to get up on a stage in front of all of us and talk about this.
	So I'm really happy to have him there.
	Absolutely.
	That's great.
	The thoughts for all of us, actually.
	So that's good.
	And then we have Robert Kiviott.
	You've got to get Robert on your show, Carrie.
	Oh, no, I've had him on my show.
	Oh, we've went at it, you know, in a big way.
	You know, because I worked in Hollywood for 20 years, and so, you know, he's a big Hollywood guy.
	He's worked in Hollywood for many, many years, and he's a riot.
	He is a wild man.
	And no, my show with him is actually, it's pretty explosive, I have to say.
	And he's, you know, a smart guy, and he's been really deep in the trenches.
	Fascinating guy.
	So if he's speaking, you guys are in for a wild ride.
	Yeah, all I've got to say is I have no idea what he's going to do.
	But that's number one.
	Number two, he's now got a lawsuit against the CIA. Do you know about this, Carrie?
	Yeah, he wrote to me on Facebook or whatever it was.
	I haven't had the time to respond.
	I don't even know what to respond at the point.
	That's what I said.
	I said, what do you want me to do about it, Robert?
	There you go.
	Guys, all I can say is don't miss it because it's going to be explosively wild and a lot of fun.
	Yeah.
	He's made a number of television shows about UFOs, put himself on the line over and over again.
	He's also been screwed over recently, I understand, by...
	I think it's to...
	Don't quote me, but I think it's to the stars or some of the players and to the stars and or...
	You know, just some of the related players in that whole game.
	And I think he's madder than hell, and he's not going to take it anymore.
	Yeah, and maybe that's who he's suing, Gary.
	I don't know.
	I just saw this whole thing run by me, too.
	I went, okay, Robert, whatever.
	We'll talk about it at the conference because I have no idea what he's up to.
	But I'm sure it's going to be very, very interesting what he's got to say.
	And he's very knowledgeable.
	So there you go.
	And he's certainly a character.
	So that'll be fun.
	Robert Perrault is going to be there with my good, good friends here up in Northern California.
	And he's going to be playing music.
	He's going to be on the Who's Telling the Truth panel.
	And he's just an amazing guy.
	And I'm so happy he's going to be there.
	And Rudy Shields is going to be there also talking about the free research.
	He's going to do more of the hard-end research.
	His presentation will discuss the many different modalities that they went through that they found out contactees are aware of, that the experiences they're having, what they have in common, how the healing situation is in common, how different age groups relate to it, about the whole RNA, DNA thing with it.
	Who's seen angels?
	He's going to get into the nitty-gritty data that they actually pulled out of all those 4,000 people on the surveys.
	So I'm very excited about that.
	I love data, so I'll be sitting there drooling and loving every minute of it and expecting him to give me a full paper on it.
	So I can have it for my research.
	That'd be great.
	And then Samantha Mowit's going to be with us.
	She is a lifelong experiencer that very few people know about.
	She has...
	Vision, where she sees all different types of beings in her house, in her yard.
	She can take people out, and if they are at all a contactee, she'll be able to get two or three aliens to show up, and at least those two people can see them.
	I'm not sure about anybody else.
	And she has extreme contact.
	And lately, she's been having...
	My lab's experience has happened to her...
	She was on my stage at UFOCon two years ago.
	I can't remember.
	But as soon as she left my stage and went home, the MyLabs experience started.
	So we're pinning down the correlation between people speaking out on a podium and them being attacked by the military.
	And she's going to talk a little bit about what happened to her at my conference, what happened since, how the military's gotten involved, how the aliens are not happy about it.
	It's a very interesting story that I've never heard before.
	So I can't wait until she does it.
	I just saw her PowerPoint and I'm like blown away.
	So...
	I hope everybody else is there for that because it takes you from somebody who's having just regular extraordinary contact to somebody who's now got the military fully involved.
	So it's going to be very interesting, kind of like Melinda's stuff, but even more powerful because it's recent and very fresh in her memory.
	So there we go.
	And then, oh my God, this is the one that I think is going to blow a lot of people away.
	Sean Bartok is going to be there, and he had a farm.
	They had a house, kind of a ranch house, out in Utah.
	And they got a hold of Steve down at UPAR's, and he did a presentation there.
	And I could tell he was kind of holding back when I saw the presentation.
	Steve Marillo.
	And I thought, you know, there's more to this story.
	So I got a hold of him, and sure enough, I had him at my MUFON meeting to start presenting, and I started asking him questions during his presentation.
	And I got so much information out of him about Bigfoot, about the aliens, about the Indian ghosts that are around the place, about the giant wolf dogs.
	And by the end of the conversation, Carrie, we realized that his property was situated near Skinwalker Ranch and that he was having a lot of the same phenomena that Skinwalker Ranch was having.
	Yeah, I think I might have heard a little bit about this.
	But yeah, absolutely.
	So that'll be very interesting.
	Yeah, so what I'm having him do, which he did not do for his first presentations, he's pulling up I think George Knapp is going to have a front row center seat on this one.
	I think Jeremy Corbell might be there, too.
	So this is going to be quite amazing.
	Oh, and then Simeon Hine.
	Oh, my God, Simeon.
	Simeon's so amazing.
	He's going to do a whole thing on remote viewing, UFOs, and the non-local mind.
	And he's calling what we're learning from recently classified and leaked Department of Defense ATIP documents.
	So...
	What he's going to do, and I think this is so cool, he's going to come at it from a remote viewer's perspective about how they were looking at all these documents and doing all this behind the scenes without the government knowing about it.
	Because he was working with different researcher groups, and it wasn't Brown, it was a different group, and they were being very clandestine in looking into these documents.
	So...
	And they're finding out that a lot of the things they did looking at these documents was absolutely true, that they were reading them almost word for word.
	So that'll blow people's minds.
	I always freak out when I have a remote viewer around because I'm like, what can they read?
	These guys are amazing.
	And he's an extraordinary guy.
	He's also a sociology teacher.
	He's done all kinds of work.
	So it'll be fun.
	His presentation is going to be a lot of fun.
	I seriously wanted my buddy Lynn Buchanan to be with us, but Lynn is not in the best of health right now.
	So Simeon, you know, cordially accepted my invitation because I love Simeon's work as well.
	So he's an amazing roommate.
	Very good.
	Yeah, and then Tom Conwell.
	Now, Tom has done something that nobody else has done.
	Well, that's not true.
	I know a few people have done it, but he's the first one that's come out and had a presentation around it.
	He is trying to figure out the hotspots all over the planet where the UFOs come and go.
	In other words, hotspots for sightings and also hotspots for in-the-sky portals.
	That people have seen with their naked eye like a ship will go into this hole and disappear completely.
	And he's trying to pinpoint where these portals are located on the planet and where the biggest hot spots of UFOs are.
	And guess what, folks?
	There are a lot of them around the portals.
	So this is very interesting stuff, and he's gotten to the point where he's got raw data, and he's analyzing it and coming up with a grid map of ideas about what are the hottest spots to be at to see UFOs.
	Okay, very good, yeah.
	Yeah!
	I told Tom, I said, the hottest spot to see a UFO is right outside my house.
	And so that opened up another whole can of worms that he's working on too, which is, is every contactee a hot spot?
	So we're going to be discussing that as well.
	Anyhow, Tom Danheiser, he's our special guest.
	He's going to be on the panel for Who's Telling the Truth with George Norrie.
	And Tom and I always have a blast together because we love to do Who's Telling the Truth.
	So that'll be fun.
	So I can't wait to see them.
	It'll be great.
	Okay.
	I think I got through them, and I'm just trying to see if there's anybody else that isn't on the roster here.
	I don't think so.
	Well, I sure hope not, because I don't see how you're going to get all of that in even one week, but I guess you've got it figured out.
	I'm trying to skip over to the schedule real quick here.
	I guess you don't have like a whole, it'd be impossible to put it all in front of people, but I don't know if this is going to show up on my screen.
	Yeah, within a few, like I'd say by Monday, there will be a PDF of a page that you can open.
	Oh, that's great.
	Everything.
	It'll be in a grid.
	But for right now, we're just doing the cell phone version of every day up there so people on their cell phones can look at it pretty easily and quickly.
	Oh, good.
	Well, that's all good.
	So you've got a really stellar group of people and some fascinating, fascinating.
	In fact, almost every single one of them sounds really quite fascinating.
	So I hope that we can encourage people by having you on the show here to come down.
	And to absolutely see everyone.
	And I think that people will really be excited to be there.
	I'm excited just doing it.
	I got to tell you, I don't get excited about much anymore.
	This one, I was like, God, I finally get to do what I want instead of having to do something around money.
	See, everything carries you now always has to be, am I going to make a buck at it and survive it, you know?
	And this one is purely out of love and we have people helping us and it's going to be really, really well done.
	And we just, I can't wait.
	I think everybody's going to have a blast, and I do hope they show up on Sunday for you and John.
	That's really important to me.
	You know, John deserves it.
	He deserves to have a full house, and he deserves to have a standing ovation.
	So I do hope that people really get there for that.
	That's very sweet.
	Now, the prices of the tickets after the 19th are going to go up a little bit at the door.
	We're not sure, maybe $10 or $20 a ticket, but...
	Right now you can get them starting at $69 a day up to $89 a day if you just want to come for one day.
	And the other part to this is, let's see, do I have all the packages available?
	Yes, I do.
	I have all the packages available that you could buy.
	There's a seven-day package, a four-day beginning-of-week package, and a four-day end-of-week package.
	And these include meals as well.
	So you're going to get some meals.
	You get the banquet on Saturday night, which is usually a separate price.
	It's all part of the deal.
	So if I were you, I'd try to get...
	Oh, this is really important, Carrie.
	Super, super important.
	The code for the discounted rooms at the Aquarius Hotel in Laughlin, Nevada, where we're holding the conference...
	It goes offline Monday about...
	She told me she'll try to turn it off when she comes in early on Tuesday morning, but my guess is it'll get shut off about midnight on Monday night.
	So get your hotel reservations now.
	Even if you don't know if you're going to make it, just make a hotel reservation.
	You can always cancel it because you won't get that price after Monday.
	Okay, so you're telling the people that are considering getting their tickets to get a hotel reservation...
	In other words, do they call the hotel or is it an online registration thing?
	They have to call the hotel for the discount.
	I see.
	And I guess you've got that on your site somewhere.
	I do.
	Right below the day counter that shows you how many days until the event.
	It says Room Discount Reservation Code tells you all about it, how much the room rates are, and what we need you to do to get that code discount.
	So please do that, folks.
	That's super important because I don't want you to suddenly show up and have to pay an exorbitant amount of money.
	Okay, now, so you're saying it expires on Monday.
	Do you mean this coming Monday?
	Yeah, this coming Monday.
	Oh, wow.
	It was supposed to expire last Friday, which it did, but I got them to turn it back on.
	Because I think I was going to be on your show tonight.
	Oh, there you go.
	So, well, yeah, absolutely.
	You do not say that on your website, so maybe you need to add that.
	Yeah, I do.
	Well, I'm looking.
	I put it on the screen right now, and it says, for reservations, you call this number, then it goes hotel room reservation discount code, right?
	That's what you're talking about?
	It doesn't say anything about it expiring.
	Oh, that's weird.
	I'm looking right at discount code expires on 319.19.
	Really?
	Maybe that...
	Yeah, maybe I'm looking at a different page.
	I'm looking at the hotel and transportation page.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I don't think I got it up there because I just found out about it like hours ago.
	Right.
	So just in terms of protecting yourself, you got to...
	I haven't gotten it there yet.
	No problem.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right, well, just serendipity.
	For so many days now, I've forgotten what I've done and what I haven't.
	Yeah, no, I'm sure.
	With such a big conference at hand, you know, I can see how it would be crazy.
	So, well, thank you so much, Lorian.
	Actually, we have been going for quite a while, and I try to keep the shows under two hours.
	Of course.
	What?
	I haven't even looked at the clock.
	I didn't even know how long we've been going.
	Well, we covered everybody, so that's actually really cool, and anyone can watch this and really get a rundown from you, and you've done a great job of really talking about everybody.
	So...
	It's great, as always, to say that it's very nice to have you on the show, and I'm sorry that we didn't get a chance to actually have you literally here with us so that people could see you.
	I'm so sorry about that.
	Yeah, it is what it is.
	Look, you're not the only one.
	We have issues.
	All kinds of people have issues with all kinds of stuff.
	So no problem, you know, and we had all kinds of technical things at the very early start of the show as well.
	So I'm just glad that we were able to get through the whole thing and that we've got a rundown on all your lovely speakers.
	And I think hopefully people will see this and decide to, you know, come down.
	Especially for your weekend, because I really want them to see you in action, because you're wonderful at what you do.
	Oh, that's very kind of you.
	No, it's really important to me, because I try to support all the people I know in the community as best I can, and I really wanted you and John on stage together, and I think that's super important.
	Because, you know, after we lost Bob, I was like, God, why didn't I get Bob and Carrie on stage last year at UFOCon?
	I could have kicked myself.
	Well, he wouldn't have come at that point.
	He was very ill.
	But, you know, it would have had to be a few years earlier than that, even.
	I got to say that he did linger, but he was quite unwell for a good part of that.
	So Marsha would not let him go out there, even though he, you know, he had his high points.
	Like, I think I saw him a little less than a year before he died, last April.
	Yeah, that's wonderful.
	I'm glad to hear that.
	Yeah, and he said goodbye to me about 10 times that day because, you know, hugging and kissing me and letting me know in a nonverbal way that this is the last time I'm going to see you.
	Yeah.
	You know, so he was aware of where he was at, as he would be, you know.
	Carrie, the biggest problem we've got in this community and And I thank God for Project Camelot's old videos.
	People need to see the people from our past, because if they don't understand what these people, and what Carrie's gone through, what Bill's gone through, what all of this has gone through over the years, you're never going to understand what's coming in the future.
	And what's coming in the future is a lot more dire than I ever thought it was going to be.
	I think there's a lot more control of the narrative going on with To The Stars Academy and Disclosure and the whole nine yards.
	And I'm afraid that there is way too much mind control going on out there for us to really ever get the truth.
	I think these guys are laughing all the way to the bank, honestly.
	Okay, well, it's kind of a cynical point of view, but I have to say that, you know, there's a lot of truth there.
	It's a difficult time that we're going through, but, you know, I happen to be, I guess, an eternal optimist.
	I do believe humanity will step up, and we are all, you know, fighting the good fight here, and you're with us, and look at these wonderful people that you can come down and learn from and And share your stories with.
	And, you know, there's one side of, you know, going to a conference that I think gets overlooked sometime, and that is the networking aspect.
	So it's always fun.
	And let me just throw this out right now, and I'll probably wish I didn't do this, but we're going to be having dinner with John Lear, if it all works out, before I interview him on stage on Sunday.
	So I don't know how that's all going to play out, but people, you know, can come and rush him and ask us questions or whatnot.
	That may be possible.
	It's probably going to be a kind of a tight squeeze.
	And then on the Saturday night before that, Bill Ryan and I are going to be having dinner.
	And, you know, basically there's only a couple places to choose from.
	So if you want to join us, we could fill the restaurant, I'm sure.
	Yeah.
	And you can listen to the two of us go back and forth and who knows what we'll come up with.
	I know.
	You guys are going to be fun together.
	It's going to be great to see that reunion.
	I just want to say one last thing.
	At the end of my little diatribe about the bad part of everything, it's shows like yours that bring out the good and you're trying to get to the truth as best we can get to it.
	And I just adore your show and I listen to it all the time.
	Oh, that's very kind of you.
	All right.
	Thank you so much.
	Okay, sweetheart.
	Well, are we done?
	We are done, and thank you, Lorian.
	And why don't you give yourself a plug?
	You have your own radio show.
	Is that on Revolution Radio?
	Yeah, I'm still at Revolution Radio.
	Can you believe it?
	After nine years, I'm still there.
	That's amazing.
	I love you guys there listening.
	Okay, very good.
	So that's what's happening, and thanks again, Lori, and we'll see you soon in a week, right?
	Isn't it about a week?
	Good deal.
	Bye-bye.
	Okay, bye-bye.
	So that is so fun, and I have to figure out how to turn this thing off.
	I've got so many windows going here that it's going to be a little tricky, but just bear with me here.
	Okay, I think we close that and then we close this.
	Okay, so just want to say that I'm hard at work.
	I've just been to see Captain Mark Richards on Sunday and he has some very explosive stuff he's putting out.
	And I'm trying to do justice to his discussion with me about the trial and about the case surrounding him.
	And that is like nearly, I don't know, something like 36 years old.
	It's a very old case at this point.
	He's been in prison all these years, framed for a murder he did not mastermind.
	That's what he's up on charges about.
	And it's all about how he was framed.
	And we have now got to the top of the pyramid, really.
	He's saying that James Jesus Angleton, who was the CIA head of counterintelligence for many, many years, I guess.
	That was 1954 to I think it's 1975.
	And so I'm going to be having a lot of links in my written presentation.
	And I'm going to be doing a verbally presentation.
	A verbal presentation, as I always do, talking about the meeting that we had, talking about all the interesting things we talked about.
	And so stay tuned for that.
	I hope to get it out in the next few days.
	So that's a real challenge, but I'm working very hard on it right now.
	So I do want to say that, according to Mark Richards, and I've already put this out on Social media.
	James Caesars Angleton was the human, what appears to be possibly a human hybrid, but nonetheless a human liaison with the reptilians back in the day.
	And he was instrumental in the heading up of the Kennedy assassination, taking over of the U.S. government by the reptilians and allowing that to happen.
	Therefore, he hated Mark Richards and his father, Because both Mark and his father were very serious, true Americans, if you want to call it that, and they believed in democracy and the rule of law as well as rule by the people.
	And in fact, I've got a sort of a picture.
	In fact, I don't know if I can pull it up here.
	I might be able to.
	Of his book cover, which I was given the book by Joanne, his wife, this time.
	And it's very fascinating because, of course, the book was completely misrepresented in the trial.
	And I'll talk about this when I do my presentation on Mark.
	But there's the back of the book, if you can see that.
	And see if I can zoom that in just a little bit.
	I don't know if that's going to work, but maybe...
	If I enlarge this.
	So it's hard to read, so I retyped it.
	So I've got that on my presentation so you can see.
	But it is actually, he was writing this when he was a young man, I believe.
	Well, he was arrested when he was 29, so he wrote it before that.
	And it is one of a seven-volume set.
	It's all about saving the world, saving the planet, and a central area in what's called Marin County where what he calls the Hero Kings would be helping to sort of lead the people into a new age.
	And it is set in the future.
	It's a sci-fi fantasy.
	And it has nothing to do with the takeover of Marin in the modern-day United States, etc., because that does not even exist in his story.
	So this is the kind of thing that was misrepresented at the trial and is a tragedy because you can see such an altruistic young man who obviously was taken down and imprisoned for most of his young life.
	And he is now in his, I think his late 60s.
	So that's really what we're going to be dealing with when I put out my information.
	And I want to thank everyone for watching tonight.
	And let me see if I can get that out the way.
	So there's another thing that's going on on YouTube, which maybe people know about it, and I'm going to put that on the screen right here.
	And it has to do with this kind of weird little bell that has to do with...
	It used to be that you just subscribed to someone's channel and you were immediately notified whenever they went live or had a new video.
	Now you actually have to click the bell, as I understand it, and it's...
	Very small little bell on the lower right-hand side of the screen when you subscribe.
	And if you don't hit that, then you don't get notified.
	That's what I understand.
	And it just sounds ludicrous, but unfortunately, you actually have to do that.
	that.
	So I hope anyone's watching here can be aware of that and help us because we do make money off of the ads.
	That's actually how I pay my rent.
	If I can't pay my rent, I can't do this full time.
	And I am busy every minute of every day, as you may or may not know.
	I've constantly got new material coming out.
	So please support Project Camelot if you do enjoy the information we put out there.
	And I will be with John Lear, as I mentioned, and on stage at Megacon.
	And I'm getting the banner here for that.
	I think I've got it here.
	Yeah.
	And so I do want to encourage people can go to my website to get the information, to find the link to UFO Megacon, buy your tickets, and come on the Sunday.
	And again, if you want to see me and Bill Ryan, And we will be having dinner on the Saturday night in a public restaurant on the premises.
	And you're welcome to join us.
	We love being in the public, you know, and sharing everything with everyone.
	So that would be a lot of fun.
	And then the Sunday night, we're going to have dinner with John Lear before I am going on stage with him.
	So hopefully that'll all work out as we plan.
	And so someone wants me to answer their super chat.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh my God, this person is so vindictive.
	Okay, well, you know, it's not easy running a show and also trying to interview a guest at the same time as paying attention to a chat.
	We don't have a team here to do that kind of thing.
	And this is the first I've heard of it.
	Okay, so...
	Thank you again for watching, and I do encourage that person to take their money elsewhere.
	And please don't think that you can threaten me just because I don't see your super chat, because that's not how it works.
	Anyway, take care, everyone, and have a great night.

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