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Oct. 18, 2018 - Project Camelot

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CONVERSATION WITH DEBORAH TAVARES, ALEXANDRA AND KERRY CASSIDY

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	This is an experiment.
	We're doing a simulcast, so I want to introduce you to Alexandra.
	What's your last name, Alexandra?
	I never know it.
	Oh, it's very difficult.
	It's a Czech name.
	Oh, okay.
	Another name you've got.
	So it's a Czech name, but I have lived in most of my life.
	And you are located where, roughly, Alexandra?
	In the center of Europe, Bohemia, Czech Republic.
	Yeah, I think she'd rather not say too specifically.
	Right, no, no, no, I know.
	So, okay, so now we are live, and so take it away, Alexandra.
	Yes, and we are talking also with Deborah Tavares, who is well known, has a lot of documents about genocide, the genocide, That the Illuminati want to kill us.
	And I want to say also that after our last interviews three weeks ago, so with Kerry and Deborah Tavares and Jim, that code is not theirs, Ule Dame God, Ule Dame God's website went down.
	It was attacked severely.
	So something they didn't like, something these people who Are in charge of YouTube and so.
	And today we would talk especially about...
	Deborah wanted to talk about a few topics.
	And before then, can I ask something?
	I have heard about Catherine Horton, that you have contact with Deborah.
	Oh, with Carrie, yes, yes.
	Go ahead.
	That would be with the general, I think, Carrie, that you recently interviewed out of prison.
	Am I getting that question correct?
	No, I think you're asking whether we could talk about the status of Catherine Horton, who is...
	Oh, Catherine Horton.
	I'm sorry.
	There was a delay and I did not hear her name.
	Yes.
	Yes, Catherine Horton's YouTube is up on StopTheCrime.net, but for all that is listening, I would recommend that you type in Catherine Horton, who is a scientist out of Zurich, who's under heavy attack, heavy, heavy attack, she and her scientific fellows.
	And we're reaching out to her to see if we can't do an interview and get her story up In front of everyone now, but I also want to refer everyone to a book that was just released.
	It is a free download, and you can find it on StopTheCrime.net under Targeted Individuals.
	The name of this book is MKUltra Never Died.
	It was just released back in October of about Oh, October 10th of around 2018.
	So it's just really hot off the press.
	And the reason I would recommend, and I sent you a copy of this too, Alexandra, so that you could forward this out.
	It is about absolute mind control and soul, S-O-U-L, control in government and in Wall Street and the secret space program.
	And I just want to acknowledge that This brave, brave person who came forward and is not naming names, but is discussing the situations that are presently occurring throughout the entire world with targeted individuals in the use of mind control and weapons systems as well.
	And in the table of contents, you will find absolute mind control, sex slavery and silent murder.
	Recovered memories, her life before a government whistleblower, torture and implanted chips, seeking the truth, the chips and who are behind the chips, gang stalking in the offices, scans revealed signals emitting,
	where those signals are coming from, detox, surgical removal of chips, how these victims that are targeted are sold to the secret space programs, And The Ritual Abuse, the MKUltra crossover to remote control,
	discovery of MKUltra programming and deprogramming, recovering of memories and the altars and the programs, forced prostitution, porn films, mind control handlers from satanic secret societies, and The Bloody Road to Seeking the Truth.
	Another chapter is about clone and soul transfer and military abduction in the secret space program.
	The final chapter, chapter 8, is Never Give Up Seeking the Truth.
	So I would add, Never Give Up Seeking the Truth.
	And to that, I again cannot recommend more that people download this book and read it.
	I think That people will recognize and realize the enormity of our reality and the mind control aspects of the takeover.
	And so I guess...
	Go ahead and ask me any questions, Alexandra, but I do want to start out with this.
	I'm surprised we are talking now about this because I was thinking we are going to talk about something else, but I want to really say that There is a YouTube channel, like Killers, which is the Illuminati YouTube channel.
	And it sounds like rubbish, but it's quite deep stuff there, also evil.
	And I believe the last video is about transferring of the consciousness that the man says He's like impersonator.
	He's actually from Czech Republic, the man who talks.
	But he recorded this video on behalf of the head of Illuminati.
	And he says openly, we have the technology to transfer your consciousness.
	Those people, there are too many people on the earth for all immortal people.
	But those who are on my side, they will get this technology and become immortal, but like the rest we will kill almost.
	He doesn't say that with words, but the meaning is obvious.
	So he is so open, like, and I will transfer my consciousness into a body of probably 33 years old.
	And look, want to, like, behave that people believe that I'm Jesus Christ and I will move to one word straight center, the tower in New York, because all the companies that are going to work for me are placed there.
	So he says his program, what he is planning to do with us.
	Like, now he is promising this Transfer, consciousness transfer and become immortal this way, but only for his people.
	Well, that would certainly espouse the plans that have been discussed and rolled out and are now occurring.
	And I wanted to touch upon a couple of things because many people that are listening know that I refer to documents And the documents reveal the enormity of the Luciferian agenda and the alien aspect of how we're being taken over because this is sheer evil for planetary control and absolute planetary disruption.
	And I want to talk quickly about some of the misinformation that is going around on the internet about the 5G resistance In Northern California.
	What I want to say is absolutely there is resistance to the deployment of the 5G. But what I also need to explain is how the city councils have absolutely no authority to block the deployment of 5G. What occurred here in Northern California in Santa Rosa was The pause to the deployment of the 5G and
	the discussion in the city about not allowing or reviewing the 5G small cells being attached to the city-owned lighting, the lighting poles that the city owns.
	So the city created a pause, but Verizon Which is also Rothschild and the Crown Castle merging of frequencies to destroy all human health and all health and life on this planet,
	has gone forward with the utilities throughout California and elsewhere and certainly in universities now.
	They're deploying the small cells on the utility orchestrated power poles.
	They don't need an application within the cities.
	They have full right to do that and their right is further guaranteed by the FCC, who again is operated by and large by Crown Castle and Google.
	And so the deployment is happening here in Santa Rosa, California on the utility The same thing will happen throughout the entire country.
	And people are suggesting that you can go to your city council and your councils can block it.
	I can assure you that in the FCC documents it says that cities that think they can create a moratorium are bad actors.
	That federal regulations and The executive order by the current CEO of this country, USA Inc., signed an executive order on January 8th of 2018 saying that they are to expediently deploy broadband throughout all of America and to all the farmhouses,
	in other words, everywhere, and eliminate All obstructions or abilities for there to be a denial of a deployment of small cells.
	In other words, they're doing it.
	And this is important to understand, people are not getting it yet, that all United States offices, officials, and departments have been operating in a de facto status in name only, under emergency war powers.
	And our government here in the United States, we're USA Inc., in fact, we're Earth Inc., the governments exist in name only, only to create an apparatus of illusion so that we believe going to the city councils and weighing our decisions in advisory meetings,
	which are discussed in World Bank documents, how they trick the public By creating community advisory meetings and posting it and allowing the public to come and speak.
	If you go online and you look at how these advisory meetings are occurring, and I'm talking all over the world, and this was what I first discovered when I was heavily looking into the smart meter deployment back in like 2009, 2010.
	And I was actually looking at Scientists and engineers in Europe that were coming out of the smart meter discussion scratching their heads and saying they didn't understand how the deployment of the smart meters for the electrical grid had anything to do with climate change.
	They didn't understand it.
	But no one said anything.
	They didn't understand how the meetings were operating.
	They did not understand, and still do not, that there are trained facilitators There are already the plans that are predetermined in place, and this is throughout the world.
	We are all under the false illusion that we have a say, and that's why these plans are rolling out despite our opposition.
	And so I can say that what you're hearing is sadly the misunderstanding of people that don't understand the fundamental basis of how the organization, the corporate structure works.
	And until, sadly, they understand that the cities are all incorporated, the United States was of course during the bankruptcy, we were literally collateralized The international bankers, the United Nations, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund.
	We're collateralized.
	We own nothing.
	They believe they stole everything fair and square.
	And this is the reality.
	And sadly, I have to say that this was one of the most painful realities for me to finally get Because I went to many, many, many meetings here in Northern California and Southern California and elsewhere.
	And really, in the beginning, thought we could weigh in.
	In fact, there would be hundreds of people voicing opposition to a topic.
	For example, reorganizing Northern California into a one bay area.
	We didn't want all of our counties organized under one In other words, a global government and an incremental consolidation, which is what has occurred.
	And even with the hundreds of people that would attempt to dispute why this shouldn't happen and why under those plans we didn't want to see massive housing being built along transportation hubs, etc., Which was decimating the traditional neighborhoods in those areas.
	None of the opposition availed any progress.
	The plans rolled forward.
	So I can only say, and maybe you see this too, Alexandra, the solutions to this is only based upon what each of us understand as the problem.
	And unless we understand The foundational aspect of our reality, our solutions will all be different.
	So the 5G small cells are rolling out.
	They are removing shrubbery and vegetation for the improvement of saturating our buildings.
	They are.
	This is what Pacific Gas and Electric is now engaged in doing here in Northern California after the fires.
	They are literally blazing alongside the power lines and removing down to the ground trees that were there obviously before.
	We're also told, I'm looking at some newspapers right now that are just out now being October the 18th of 2018, Here in Northern California, the insanity that people are reading in their papers and not understanding the insanity.
	But they're talking about that we're going to have increase of sudden death that has been a worldwide problem where the trees are dying because, of course, it's a cover for the poisonous toxic sprays overhead called the geoengineering Which,
	of course, we understand and know is the intentional and deliberate large-scale manipulation of the Earth's climate.
	And that is what climate change is really all about.
	It's the intentional manipulation of the climate, but wrapped up into too many people using too much stuff and the need for us to reduce our CO2 emissions, which is a reduction of oxygen.
	So we're really moving into a time when there's global oxygen depletion.
	And this all ties in, of course, to the reduction of populations, not only with the food poisoning, the increased frequencies of decimation to our bodies, but other aspects as well.
	In fact, Carrie, here in Los Angeles, California, near where we are in the state of California, We just learned that amongst the homeless community they now have a typhus outbreak.
	And this is important to understand because certainly we know that they are gene splicing and creating bioweapons as in pests and mosquitoes, ticks, fleas, etc.
	as bioweapons.
	And what they're telling us here in Los Angeles Is that the homeless people have now contracted typhus.
	And what does typhus do?
	Well, the symptoms are very interesting and very concerning.
	Typhus can cause fever and chills, body aches, nausea, vomiting, cough, rash.
	And if it's not treated with antibiotics, again, big pharma, it can be fatal.
	So again, when they talk about abdominal pain, back aches, etc.
	But what they say is fevers can be 105 to 106 degrees.
	You can run a fever 105 to 106.
	So of course we have to look at the reality and the possibility behind that as being the amped up microwave in all of the cities heating up.
	The individuals where people are being microwaved in increasing temperatures.
	So it's not enough for the use of directed energy weapons, weather weapons, and economic weapons to cause massive numbers of refugees and homelessness that's forced out onto the streets worldwide.
	But of course now, as I'm just explaining, it seems like they're being targeted yet again with typhus and those extreme fevers.
	And it looks like this is a cover for increased microwaving of people because people are now consolidating into cities where there are already cell towers and cell phones and Wi-Fi and antennas and smart electric and water meters now, small cells being deployed, street lighting and so much more.
	So when we look at the bioweaponization of the fleas, as the government did with the ticks and the Lyme disease, We certainly know that the death delivery systems are engaged to reduce the populations and they're targeting, of course, the homeless people and more.
	But we're just in a time of massive assault and on every level without the governments working on our behalf, which should by now be very obvious.
	There's an extremely important YouTube video that I really recommend everyone watching, and it's called The Swamp.
	And I've recommended this before, and the reason I do is that you see duly elected officials in Washington, D.C., in their respective offices in Washington, D.C., being elected and believing that they can make a change for the better.
	But discovering that Washington DC is run by the staffers that put forward all of the agendas and tell our newly elected officials how to vote.
	And when you watch the swamp, you see their frustration and they leave office oftentimes being compromised, certainly being threatened.
	Being targeted with being exposed that they're an alcoholic or more just to quiet them down and get them out of office and they leave never figuring out that the federal government exists in name only and they have been duped into believing that there is an operation in place that can create change and there's not.
	So I think when you watch that It will allow for a better understanding of all of our reality because this is certainly the case in government worldwide.
	We are all being controlled and mind controlled by all our governments as well.
	So everything from all the weaponized storms, of course Hurricane Michael, Hurricane Florence, again I can't underscore watching the YouTube we have up, coastlines under attack.
	Storm surge artificially created.
	So with that, Alexandra, I think there might be more that we would like to talk about.
	Well, actually, can I break in here?
	I'd like to address some of the things you said, Deborah, if that's okay, Alexandra.
	I would, yes.
	Okay, because I think there are a lot of really important points there.
	And I just put up sort of I made a really fast banner so it had our three faces on it so because we don't have everybody on video here but I'm gonna put myself on video just while I'm talking so I can say that what you're talking about is also validated by my whistleblowers and by the various people I've been interviewing and I have nearly 700 I've
	been talking to a lot of people.
	And I can say that this evidence, this information that you're putting forward is all backed up by testimony again and again.
	And I can tell you that the information all reaches back, like it or not, to what is in essence a reptilian takeover of planet Earth.
	And that in essence...
	This is what the reptile, the Draco, and the greys prefer.
	It's about the kind of environment that they prefer to be in.
	And that environment is one that involves methane.
	That's why we had the Gulf oil spill.
	And the methane has been running up the rivers, I've been told, by a very deep contact.
	And in Texas and above there, so that eventually those rivers will catch on fire.
	And the other thing is that we have the radiation, Fukushima, etc., etc.
	So you've got an environment that is taking, yes, the oxygen out of the equation, slowly...
	Out of the water and the air.
	Yes, and this is all to do with an overall agenda to change humanity, to keep the ones who can actually be genetically reprogrammed and re-engineered to handle You know, a lower oxygen environment, etc., etc.
	So this is, it's a plot.
	And it goes very deep.
	And it goes back to what appears in essence to be alien controllers.
	And it does involve AI. And, you know, I do want to say that my witness, Mark Richards, says that any space-faring race of beings creates AI. It's just part of the package that goes with being a space-faring And you can understand why that would be true.
	So if you create artificial intelligence, nano, as a delivery system, and so on, then you're really talking about also changing our physical bodies because they're putting nano in the chemtrails, as you may know.
	Yes, they are.
	We drink it in our water.
	We eat it in our food, et cetera, et cetera.
	So it's all about how we can handle it.
	But I do want to say there's hope.
	I know this is a very dark scenario, but in my view, there's hope because we are a spirit having a material existence.
	I absolutely agree.
	Absolutely.
	And in the end of the day, we, the souls that came here to experience this Kind of an experience.
	We'll go back from where we came if necessary, but if we decide to stay, we can inhabit whatever kind of vehicle is necessary to inhabit this space.
	Now the Gray Human Hybrid Program, in which they've been abducting You know, females and getting gray-human hybrid, really half and half babies.
	And they've been raising these children.
	Some are back on Earth now.
	Some get born to mothers around the planet, and they probably will know their children in this way.
	But grays have certain sort of abilities.
	They may, you know, be able to float an object, let's say.
	But at the same time, they'll have a lack of an emotional connection.
	On a deep level because let me add to that and see what you think about this because certainly we know that autism is now curving into one in every 40 births and they are void of the gene of empathy and We know of course that was all created to occur and Yes, but my information about autism also has to do with the precog aspect.
	And it also has to do with what you might call the, what do you call it?
	It's like a super soldier aspect.
	So it has to do with the fact that like the X-Men, they're always looking for that X quotient, that new thing that's going to come into the genome that will make us bigger, better, faster, stronger, more destructive, more whatever they want us to be.
	And the precog is part of what goes into this.
	So you get These children who are born with this, what appears to be a deficiency or a, you know, a handicap, if you will.
	And at the same time, they may have special powers in essence.
	And so this is, it's like a farming.
	They are farming us to see what they can, you know, discover in our genome that can then be multiplied and put into, you More babies, et cetera, et cetera.
	So it's a whole program that's been going on really from the Nazis on, but very likely way before that because we've got so many invasions of planet Earth that people aren't aware of.
	And the Nazca alien was proof.
	And let me tell you that that story, the truth of it has never gone out there.
	But the Nazca alien story involves an AI quotient.
	To those aliens and this is why that story will never see the true light of day because in essence it proves that we have been invaded by artificially intelligent alien clone type beings going back maybe thousands of years.
	Well I of course don't cover what you're talking about Carrie that's not in the level of documentation that I But I certainly realize the sheer evil and demonic Satanism that is occurring.
	I'm only 20 minutes from Bohemian Grove.
	And in observing that over a number of years, it's demonic.
	And I know many people, including myself, believe that the antidote also is prayer.
	And that we individually can...
	Create an environment through prayer that is different than the evil that we're living in.
	Many people believe that.
	Again, I do as well.
	But I also want to say that we have a breaking story, and I'd like to discuss it with you as well, because I know that you're going to certainly likely concur because you were talking about the increased methane being the ability to create toxins on all of our rivers and streams which is I'm going to throw in right now a bit of hope also and that's that we have primary water we are the water planet and water is continuously renewed
	under the mantle of the earth and when oxygen and hydrogen come together it becomes vapor and then that becomes water and must surface and it does So go to our website, primarywater.org.
	Circulate the YouTube interview that we have up called Primary Water Explained.
	Primary Water Explained.
	And get to water.
	Get to water.
	Because the waters are being poisoned.
	Not only with the chemtrails and all of the runoff from all of the toxic fertilizers and more, But also from the targeting of storms where they're swamping the sewer treatment systems all over the world and allowing raw sewage to get into the water table and the aquifers as well.
	But Carrie, getting back to what we're working on right now, a story, and we'll have this up soon.
	We toured the largest Power-generating operation of its kind on the planet last week.
	And it's the Geyser's Geothermal Field.
	And it's about 75 miles north of San Francisco.
	And it's actually up in the mountains above Santa Rosa, where we were just burned out.
	Wow, that's fascinating.
	In October of 2017.
	And I want to say that the tour will be up on StopTheCrime.net, so watch for it.
	But I want to talk about aspects of this tour and what we saw and what we now know that we did not know until we went on this tour.
	We found out that hydrogen sulfide is in the air and it increases when they're doing the geothermal operations and People experience headaches, nausea, sinus congestion, and that it also can result in respiratory paralysis.
	So we're talking about strangulation and or eye damage.
	And there are monitors on this facility that are being monitored not only for the release of hydrogen sulfide, but also for the daily Seismic activity that this has created in the mountains above Santa Rosa.
	And I'm going to talk about that because I'm preparing this discussion now.
	So it's important to understand that originally Pacific Gas and Electric ran this organization or this geothermal plant called the Geysers.
	And it was sold or purchased by Calpine Corporation.
	And we were told during the tour that a Russian investor has invested largely in this operation, as well as Canadian pension funds.
	And there are earthquakes on a regular basis there that rock the homes in that vicinity, crack windows and topple Their fireplaces, their chimneys, and that they have claims that they've submitted and that to date no court has been in favor of any people that have had damage from the quakes.
	And it is a known fact and in general agreement that the operation of the geysers causes earthquakes.
	And they also monitored a quake back in 2017.
	That was a 4.2.
	Now, there's another aspect to this geothermal extraction of this mineral.
	They're calling it a mineral.
	There are levels of royalties being paid up there at the geysers.
	There's what they call surface royalties or land leasing.
	And then there are mineral royalties.
	of the extraction of the steam.
	And I was just flabbergasted at the enormity of the world's largest geothermal operation being only an hour from where I am.
	But it is interesting because over the years when we've attended local meetings, there have been Heads from the Department of Energy here in the Santa Rosa area, and I've always wondered why heads from the Department of Energy would be here.
	Well, now I believe I know.
	But what I want to say is that they have the royalty payouts, and they're paying for vapor.
	What they've now done to create more steam is they are pumping up the sewer wastewater treatment sewerage that has been treated from Santa Rosa.
	They have a 40 mile plus pipe line that connects the sewer treatment plant to the geysers.
	They have booster pumps along the way because they have to pump it uphill and they're injecting The sewage, the treated sewage into some of these boreholes up there on the mountain to create more steam.
	Now, we ask them about contaminants of emerging concern from the sewer.
	We're talking about the SSRIs, the antidepressants drugs that most people or many now are taking, as well as chemotherapy, Other birth control medications and so many more.
	Whether that is showing up in the steam.
	And they haven't tested that.
	So what we have is this massive, the world's largest geothermal operation, originally run by Rothschild.
	And again, changing ownership to Calpine, now to the Russians, and now to a Canadian...
	A firm or a Canadian pension fund.
	And it's just all under the same name, of course, just switching players because there was a requirement by the Energy Commission that PG&E had to divest.
	Well, of course, PG&E is still a player there for sure.
	And they're selling the power that they generate on the wholesale level to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions and to suggest that this is bringing down the effects of climate change and reducing the need for fossil fuels and what is really important in all of these documents is our petroleum never came from fossils So when you read these documents and
	you see the need to reduce fossil fuels, immediately you know the premise of the entire document is based on fraud, on a lie.
	And then you just go on into these documents as we do.
	Our team reads these documents and we see more of the exposed deception and the plans that are afoot.
	So Carrie, we have to look at the Puna geothermal plant in Hawaii that created or is potentially being suggested that it created the volcanic eruption.
	Because what we learned on our geyser tour here is that they drill down to the depths of possibly 13,000 feet.
	And they have well drilling equipment up there.
	In fact, it was a rare opportunity while we were there.
	They were just punching another borehole.
	And that one was down about 7,000 feet.
	Now, what they do is they'll bore down a couple thousand feet.
	And then if you can imagine, they are tripodting off of that depth.
	Let's just, for an example, say they're down 2,000 feet.
	They're able to go in multiple directions at that point.
	And that's exactly what happened in Kuwait when it was discovered by the modeling, the Landsat and 3D and 2D modeling, and shown to Saddam that Kuwait was actually extracting oil from the oil reserves in Iraq.
	And that's when that war occurred.
	The same drilling outfit as I am now being told was the same drilling outfit that has drilled in Yellowstone where apparently they have placed nuclear devices for the ability to To trigger, yes, absolutely.
	So, yeah, go ahead, Carrie.
	I'm sorry, but I want to make sure that Alexandra gets a chance to ask her questions because you're bringing out a lot of really great stuff.
	But, you know, she set this up and brought us together.
	And I just want to make sure that she studies this material endlessly.
	She's an excellent researcher.
	And Alexandra, you haven't said much.
	I just want to make sure if she could break in here and ask a few questions or say whatever she might like to.
	She's in Europe.
	They have a point of view, I'm sure.
	And she's going to...
	Definitely be in touch with European journalists.
	So go right ahead, Alexandra, please.
	It's a little bit off topic.
	I wanted to ask a little bit about lithium.
	If you know something, this country is quite rich in lithium.
	And it can be used in chemtrails, and it's flammable, and also for psychiatry reasons.
	And I know that there was a planned false flag, a huge false flag in our country.
	It was on 4th of July 2013, and it was stopped, it was prevented.
	But right before the false flag, they have, I believe they brought 15,000 Russian soldiers to FEMA Region 3 and that they have two NASA rockets and one of them has spread lithium in the FEMA Region 3.
	So I was thinking also more that these NATO countries NATO is actually a terrorist organization and also satanic,
	because we have two girls here brought, killed by, like with, it was obviously NATO was involved in two satanic murders.
	One was brought to Paris from the Czech Republic here, It was on the 11th of January 2017.
	And one, it was even worse, she was murdered in Prague.
	They said that she stabbed herself in her heart 13 times.
	She stabbed herself and then they found out, her mother found out one week later that her heart was removed.
	So they wanted to have her heart For a ritual probably in the United States.
	So, and what I mean NATO, it's...
	I believe all three of us believe that NATO is a very criminal organization.
	And what I mean that they have here a lot of lithium that some companies from Australia want to bring up and then NATO can get a lot of lithium because we are involved here in Czech Republic also and then they can use it against us both like spreading it in chemtrails and so what
	I mean the knowledge if we know that NATO is a criminal organization so that we at least Shouldn't be able to sell it to NATO and maybe use it in these rockets on...
	I don't know if you understand, but we are in a position that we are saying that some countries are doing terrorism, but it's actually we who are...
	Using our stuff, our minerals, and so for terrorism against ourselves.
	Right.
	Well, governments might be a little more accurate, but yes.
	Well, I wonder if you can go back to the subject that Deborah was talking about in terms of what is, in essence, these geysers, because it does parallel the work of this Unwanted publicity guy called Paul Collin who writes a blog on my site that involves fracking and this company that has cropped up next to volcanoes around the world some of which are dormant and it's called
	Ormat and I'm going to put a link in the chat so people can go to his blog where he explains basically what's going on there And so, you know, this is really what's going on.
	I mean, it is crazy, this sort of premeditated aspect of this.
	But I have to say, in terms of, Deborah, in terms of your find, really, it's quite a find with regard to this geysers, because it's also interesting that Paul...
	Colin also addresses the geysers.
	Apparently there are geysers also undersea and these vents where they can actually place things.
	And this may also have to do with how they created the diabolical aspect of Fukushima, which was there was a blast in the north in Hanku, I think Honshu, in the northern part of Japan that then triggered The rest of Fukushima.
	And that came from undersea.
	And this has been investigated and documented.
	I think Jim Stone is one of the reporters who talked about it.
	But I have other sources on this as well, as well as Keith Hunter, for those of you who've watched.
	My interviews with him.
	He's an English researcher.
	So there are link-ups all through this.
	Now, in terms of NATO, I think that's a huge topic, Alexandra.
	So I don't know how much background Deborah has in it.
	I do know that a lot of the false flags in Europe are obviously carried out by this And this is Ole Damogard-type material, right?
	He traces all these false flags, how they go back practically by a playbook and carry out these various terrorist acts.
	Now, this is what we call state-sponsored terrorism.
	Well, I want to add to that right now, too, because I'm just now looking for the name of the YouTube, which people can go to StopTheCrime.net to our YouTube video channel.
	And you can see a YouTube entitled Evidence Grows That Hawaii Volcanic Eruption Caused by Pune Geothermal Venture.
	And you need to watch this YouTube.
	And it's all about the diagonal drilling that is occurring and causing the fractures to...
	to cause volcanic eruptions because they're the reason that they're placing the geothermal or the geysers in these areas is that they're on the ring of fire where volcanic activity is that's how they're able to extract all of this vapor from the hills an hour away from where I am and it's on a known volcanic area and in fact I will throw this out but
	in a different way.
	There was the earthquake in Napa in 2014 and there are now surfacing discussions around the fact that it was liquefaction in that with the heavy extraction from the aquifers For the vineyards,
	the watering of the vineyards, they depleted the aquifer potentially in that Napa Valley area and there was subsidence.
	Now it could also be people are looking into the fact that of course the geysers are nearby.
	They could have triggered that as well.
	That's speculative.
	There's no documentation on that.
	Like much of these kinds of things, You would not find documentation on it, just like you will not find the documentation on the cause of the massive fires here in Northern California and how it really occurred.
	For many reasons, you won't find documentation because it would divulge what's really going on, number one, that we are in a warfare, and it would certainly preclude anybody's insurance in giving any Rebuild opportunity at all because tucked away in most of our insurance policies, there are endorsements against acts of terrorism.
	So if these were considered acts of terrorism as they are, our coverage would not go into place.
	But we have to understand that the documents that I refer to, the climate action plans, the resilient plans, The smart city plans that anybody can look at.
	These are plans.
	These are false flag plans in advance in many ways of events that are going to be perpetrated.
	Because in these plans they tell you that there's going to be massive disruption of rivers and waterways.
	That the poisons and toxins are going to Increase dramatically.
	And that is an excellent way, literally, to see false flags.
	To see what the plans are because they write them in these documents.
	And that's what I find to be most fascinating.
	So let me give you an example of what I mean.
	It's demonic and it's horrific.
	But I was looking at a smart water plan.
	And I was looking at how they're saying that, well actually I think we have this now posted on StopTheCrime.net and it was an article that we just wrote and how they're saying that smoke is good for fish and that this is written,
	this is about Northern California smoke from the fires and how the smoke is actually good because it has a cooling effect on the water temperatures And it's good for the cold water fish.
	So again, this is written by scientists and other academia and how the smoke cools the streams and creeks in the summer when things are the most significantly heated up and the fish survive.
	So let's talk about what is really behind that and it discusses it in the plans and this is why understanding the plans is so important.
	The smoke that's generated by the wildfires cools the rivers and streams and water temperatures by reducing solar radiation.
	That's true.
	And the air cools temperatures which benefit aquatic species that require cool water to survive.
	So we have to understand we're being told that warmer summer water temperatures are a major factor contributing To population decline in the fish.
	And that smoke helps cool the water by dimming the sunlight.
	Okay.
	That's true.
	But we have to keep in mind what they're not telling you.
	And they're not telling you that, and they're neglecting or intentionally neglecting to mention the effects caused by warmer water dispersions into existing waterways from industry and sewage wastewater treatments and how that affects plants all over the world.
	And we have EPA documents dated back from 2002 that explain the thermal effects of water temperature differences when industry dumps warmer water into the cooler waters of rivers, streams, and creeks.
	And this wastewater discharge process is elevating temperatures in all of our waterways everywhere that are causing increased toxic algae blooms, which again is discussed in the plans.
	And reducing oxygen in the waterways, and it's causing the fish to suffocate worldwide.
	So they forget to mention these things in these articles, and they don't discuss all of this.
	And further, we're told here in Northern California, as a result of what they're now calling king fires, and fires that we're going to have all year round, That the air quality monitoring reporting and in public health reports and in the health consequences due to climate change affects that increased morbidity rates for humans will occur.
	And that wildfire smoke creates toxic air pollution resulting in respiratory illness, allergies, and death.
	And in fact, here in California, UC Davis in California is studying the smoke effects on newborns Due to the raging King Fire events in Northern California in 2017 and 2018.
	So we have to conclude that smoke might be good for the fish, but it's deadly for us and everything else.
	And we have to stop being tricked when we read these kinds of announcements from these agencies that have been taken.
	And they don't talk about, they do say one thing in this article, and again, this is going to be posted on Hot Topics on StopTheCrime.net.
	The article discussing the benefits of smoke relative to the fish, cold water fish, they do say one thing that's correct in this article.
	They say that historical wildfire patterns are quite different than those Of present day.
	In other words, prior wildfire patterns are very different from what we have today.
	And yes, that is true.
	But no mention of geoengineering.
	Again, the deliberate large-scale manipulation of the Earth's climate.
	So we have to understand when we read these things, it's another layer of disinformation and indoctrination.
	And we have to understand that these reports from these boards and agencies Are incorrect information and they are very dangerous.
	So I just pointed that out as one small facet of the global deception through all the agencies, including NATO, everywhere.
	And the false flags that we're seeing and that I know that only DemaGuard is very involved in.
	So again, I move to the documents that will tell us what they're planning to do.
	They do tell us.
	These are pre-crime documents and we can read them in our areas and find out the types of assaults through the weapons systems that they're engaging.
	In fact, they're talking about in San Francisco, here in California, that because of the increased temperature events that we're going to have from climate change, that the cool Previous conditions that San Francisco enjoyed, being a coastal city, is going to change massively.
	That there are going to be severe heat events.
	And they're saying that the temperatures on our thermometers won't necessarily show the increased heat, but it will be hotter.
	So what one has to look at is the level of microwaving in the cities because in some of the prior documents we were told that the ability of microwaving people in their homes would benefit the reduction of energy in our homes for heat and air equipment.
	They could just microwave us and warm us up individually from microwaves.
	Incredible.
	Have you heard also that the Illuminati has said, like, we will sterilize you, you will get something for sterilization, the medicament in air, in water, you will not escape, in food, everywhere.
	Have you heard that also?
	Absolutely.
	Because that is what is happening.
	Yeah.
	The birth rates have plummeted.
	They keep talking about overpopulation, but those are just psyops because the populations are massively declining.
	Incredible stuff, yeah.
	And all the documents talk about overpopulation and their concerns about too many people using too much stuff.
	No, no, no, no.
	They are reducing the population.
	Massively under-reporting.
	There's also the takeover of open lands by what are in essence called national parks, etc.
	And in reality, that is a government takeover of the land.
	But what's happening is that it's being taken away from the people.
	And they're limiting access.
	This is true not...
	You know, a lot of these lands contain what I call power places, vortexes, energy places where you can meditate and get sort of upgrades of your DNA, etc., and connect with Source better than you can, like in a city or wherever it happens to be.
	As they take over these, like Stonehenge, and they're doing it in Egypt, all around the entire plateau of the Great Pyramid, they've taken that all over.
	They're repaving over things.
	They're covering them up.
	There's a huge program to move populations away from healthy populations Power places into unhealthy areas, places where there are cities, where they have messed with the water.
	Yeah, that's absolutely true, and we're seeing that on the coastlines.
	Yes.
	The YouTube I have up called Cooking of Humanity, where we interviewed Barry Trower, I actually went there to discuss a specific document that our research team found on the whitehouse.gov website.
	And it was a document that showed a map of the United States, and around the peripheral it showed the radar that was being utilized for mine control.
	And why they want us off the coastlines, and this deftails to exactly what you just said in a different way, Carrie, It's because of the negative ions and we're less likely and able to be programmed with the frequencies when we're moved inland.
	They want us into higher altitudes.
	Certainly they're going to accomplish the reduced oxygen levels when they are forcing us off the coastal areas where the majority of populations live around the world is on the coastlines.
	And so certainly we're seeing a war on the coastlines to force us off the lands as you just said.
	In fact, we have posted up on StopTheCrime.net a map, and it's called the Wildlands Map.
	And it was a map that was discovered by Dr.
	Michael Kaufman back in the mid-90s.
	And it shows areas within the United States where there is little to no human access allowed.
	And it's color-coded.
	So I would recommend for those that are listening that are unaware of that map to take a look at it But since then we have found a map of the world that shows where the cities will be contained and where we will all be, not all of us, but where people will be allowed to live.
	And there sadly won't be that many people that will make it to these living areas because of the massive genocide plans in place.
	And when we found that genocide plan Alexandra, that you were talking about at the beginning of the program, the Deagle.com website.
	And I do have an interview up with Dr.
	Bill Deagle, not of the Deagle.com website, in discussing that genocide plan.
	And you can find it on StopTheCrime.net.
	It's called 5G and a global network for the calling of mankind.
	So 5G network, a global calling network for calling of mankind.
	You'll find it up on StopTheCrime.net.
	And the two aspects that they say that we're being told will amass in the greatest number of deaths is suicides.
	The inability to psychologically adjust when you are relocated.
	into a different area to live.
	Now, we can look at the populations of refugees and homelessness all over the world.
	We can see certainly what's happening in Venezuela, everywhere.
	I mean, we see mass exodus.
	We're just now here in the United States attempting to turn around a group of refugees that are coming out of Colombia that are headed up to the United States for safety.
	They have no idea that they're entering into the jaws of death itself.
	We're not what we are told to the rest of the world, sadly.
	But having said that, there is a world map now that does show where all of the megacities will be, and they're consolidating.
	We're commodities.
	We're human resources, and the Confining us in the cities is for human resources.
	It was the same thing that was done and is being done in China with the ghost cities.
	And they sat derelict and uninhabited for many years.
	And now they've been going out to the farmlands with guns and relocating farmers into the ghost cities.
	They're having to put some suicide nets up, etc., because the farmers are used to being on the land and they're being removed.
	This is what's happening and that's all part of the genocide is the psychological inability to adjust to this massive massive diabolical reorganization of all systems.
	That's what's happening.
	It's a reorganization of all systems.
	I want to say something about that because it also has to do with when you leave the land and when you're not in contact with nature You see, we get this electronic smog that's all around us.
	And 5G, of course, will increase that.
	So if you are able to go into nature and walk barefoot and be like we were talking about where the negative ions are, you can actually cleanse yourself.
	And plants will take the negative, I mean the positive, what are called the positive ions off of you.
	You can actually, you know, take your hands and shake it.
	Shake them at a bush or whatever.
	And that's what plants are here.
	You know, one of the services they provide for humanity is to take that stuff, the smog away from us.
	And this also involves emotional smog, etc.
	They know, okay, the powers of being know that.
	They know the power of nature and the connection that we have, humanity has with the earth and our connection.
	So if you sever that connection, you sever our connection to our base, our foundation power, right?
	That's exactly right.
	So we aren't able to access that.
	So if you pack people into cities, you put them in these high-rise buildings where they have very little contact.
	You make them, you know, they're addicted to their computers and their cell phones, etc., etc.
	So they're electronically hooked up all the time.
	Then you put in nano in their bodies.
	And pretty soon you've got what is in essence a human robot.
	And it has a spirit because the spirit will try to stay, you know, the spirit with the soul will try to stay attached to the entity.
	But in essence, what's probably ultimately will happen with a lot of people Who already don't have a good through line connection to source.
	You know, it's already been broken up by being tortured, etc., etc.
	So what they're going to do is they're basically severing.
	You could think of it as we're kind of in the middle of the human body.
	And above that would be our connection to source.
	You know to source and below that would be our connection to the earth and so if you sever those two connections you basically isolate the human vehicle.
	Now I am a firm believer that spirit You know, comes and goes as it pleases and nothing will stop it.
	It supersedes AI, it supersedes robotics on every level.
	And the soul will be the crystalline structure that we create and goes through the ages.
	So that's a time traveling element.
	So this will be safeguarded because of sort of source, whatever you want to call God, whatever you believe in.
	But you see how the vehicle is being isolated.
	And then they can control the vehicle.
	And they're materialists.
	It's very important to remember at all times that When a decision is being made by the Illuminati or the powers that be or the reptilians, it's all about staying in 3D slash 4D. They don't want you to go above those dimensions.
	So they are materialists.
	They want you to stay in what we call this material reality.
	But they're actually fighting an uphill battle because what's happening is what we think of as 3D going into 4D is now getting refined.
	Because our consciousness on planet Earth has been rising so quickly that they can't keep up.
	So they're working very fast and very hard to try to take the masses of humanity that create these fields of resonance between us.
	Like what we're doing right now creates a field of resonance.
	All the people that listen.
	All the people that will listen.
	We are the truth seekers and we are raising the vibrations of the planet.
	And we're raising the planet with us, the plants, the animals, everything around us, each other.
	And all of this is rising.
	You can think of it as a balloon coming out of the water or a ball, you know, how you push the wall down into a pool and it goes down for a minute, but then it bounces right back up and it bounces higher than it was when it started.
	Well, I like to think, too, of us being warriors of truth for God and raising our vibration for that.
	And I remember talking to Dr.
	Ronnie Kilde out of Finland before she was murdered.
	And she said something that, you know, was really some of her last words in some of her YouTubes where she said, we never die.
	We never die.
	Sure.
	And I believe that as well.
	I believe we're souls.
	And I also see...
	I can see what you're saying, Carrie, about being isolated between our true connection as avatars, really, all being connected.
	And certainly the plants.
	The plants are lungs.
	They do provide oxygen and take in a lot of the other...
	They filter...
	So we say plant a lot of plants.
	Become a plantaholic rather than a drugaholic and enjoy what the plants do and surround yourself with the happiness and the joy of that aspect of our reality to survive and have better levels of oxygen.
	And I would say, too, these kinds of calls, Alexandra and Carrie, are really uplifting and as you said it raises the vibration of I think everybody that listens to this kind of information because it's it's not about scaring people to death it's about reacting within a reality that has presented itself and learning more about this reality that is presenting itself every day don't
	you find every day that you're learning more about what what is happening Yeah, knowledge is power.
	The last thing they want you to have is knowledge, you see, because knowledge eventually transforms itself into wisdom when you put it, you know, you bring it into the heart and the mind combined.
	And then you process it through your own systems of resonance.
	And then eventually it brings wisdom.
	So this is all to do with, you know, the basically ascending of humanity and the earth.
	And so they want to stop this.
	Again, they're materialists.
	They want to keep everything in this material reality where they can control it.
	You know, it's like you can put a body in a prison, but you can't keep the soul or spirit in that prison.
	And we are amazing.
	We do have the abilities to time travel.
	To change dimensions, to materialize other places.
	These are skills that are built into this vehicle called a human that have not even been totally explored or utilized by our populations because the knowledge is not available to the general public.
	So they don't realize their powers.
	Well, that's true.
	Yeah.
	That's true.
	And Kerry and Alexandra, there's a really good YouTube that I saw some years back.
	It's called Resonance, Beams of Frequencies.
	And I would highly recommend people take a look at that.
	We were certainly looking at that back during the revelation of the smart meters and the demonic deployment behind the smart grid, which is a global utility deployment, which is all operated under the Illuminati and the powers that be.
	As well as the smart water meters that are being deployed right now too.
	The layering of frequencies in our cities is really beyond most people's realization that has occurred because the 5G has already been deployed in many of the colleges and universities so that they could do coding and get to higher speeds So the fact that it's being rolled out in the cities now is behind the fact that it's already been
	served up.
	And I think, too, wouldn't you agree, both of you, that the increased desire to vaccinate us is all part of the kill grid because we know that frequencies can activate many of the dormant viruses at different times, dependent on which areas they vaccinated with what and focused.
	And Act as a kill machine or disable us as well.
	The disabling aspect is really how these demonic beings gain their power.
	They love the torture.
	And when you look at that or read that book, MKUltra Never Ended, that I spoke about earlier in this discussion, it's riveting.
	And we start to see that targeted individuals really seem to be a human sacrifice To the demonic overlords in some horrific way.
	What do you say about that?
	Alexandra, I think you might like to comment on this?
	No, I haven't thought that way at all.
	I see a lot of sacrifices within the music industry and all kinds of industries, but I wasn't thinking about the talented individuals as But what I want to say,
	something like positive, something else, that if you have seen the 30-year-old cover from Economics with the Phoenix Bird, and then in October 2018,
	now 30 years later, the Illuminati wish to have a I believe that we have achieved something because their prognosis didn't work.
	We have delayed it.
	So when they remember this, that 30 years Back in October 1988, it must be in the economics on the cover of the magazine of Rothschilds, so they predicted that this month we will have, that the paper money will perish.
	So I believe we have this information about all kinds of Genocidal methods and all kind of stuff that they are targeting us with, that we have spread the information, like if I know something like about nanoprocessor, that is some kind of kill switch, I send it over to Kerry or to somebody else in different country.
	And it's the way how we neutralize these problems.
	It was also with this vaccination.
	That like Ebola vaccination that we believe that it's actually they want to give us human rabies so that we would eat each other like so the information was spread directly be cautious and so and I believe they dropped it.
	That's true, and also the fact that they've been putting Cinemix in our food supply, which is human tissue, S-E-N-O-M-Y-X, for those of you that are unaware of that.
	It's a company in Southern California, and you can just type it in, Cinemix, S-E-N-O-M-Y-X, and that causes...
	It increases cannibalism as well because we're cannibalizing ourselves.
	And it's also a Luciferian delight to see us doing that without our knowledge or consent.
	But I wanted to address a question earlier on.
	Alexandra, you were talking about lithium and the use of lithium.
	And I'm looking at some of the notes and wondering, you were wondering about lithium being used in the chemtrails.
	I'm not familiar with exactly what you were referring to in your question, but what I can say about lithium is it is a calming.
	It's a common tip.
	And we're needing to be kept calm as they devour us because that is also what has been done with the fluoride.
	And it says in the NASA war plan, that is on StopTheCrime.net, That there will be commatives used to sedate the populations.
	Well, I actually want to address that.
	Go ahead, but when you're done, I want to say something, because that's actually kind of key.
	Yeah, it really is.
	We'll go ahead and address that right now.
	Okay, I just want to say that actually, what I have discovered, I've been doing some investigation about this, And people may find it controversial, but what I'm finding is that our diet involves foods that basically force us, in a sense, to be passive.
	And so this is where you get away.
	I've been studying the keto diet and been doing that and finding it's making me much stronger and healthier.
	It's very interesting.
	And it is controversial, but I have to tell you that it goes back to the paleo times.
	And one thing I've noticed about it is that it actually...
	I know this is very subtle and you kind of have to listen...
	Check your own body and be very aware of yourself.
	But what I've noticed is that there's an aggressiveness that has been placated by bread and by pastas and by all kinds of things to do with slowing the system down, slowing the brain down, slowing you down so that you're passive, so that you're like a fattened pig or whatever kind of thing.
	And this is for the slaughter, right?
	So it has to do with the drugs.
	The drugs also things, lithium, if lithium goes into the chemtrails, perfectly possible.
	I thought it was also, you know, mined in Afghanistan, for example, for space travel.
	But there may be other, you know, in other words, it may have different properties.
	These things called minerals, they're called rare earth minerals.
	They have very key parts to them.
	For example, gold allows you to go interdimensional.
	Colloidal silver, I was talking on another program, About the power to get rid of viruses in your system using colloidal silver.
	And so again, that's a silver, you know, derivative.
	So there are properties, there are healing substances all around us that can be used for positive.
	You know, obviously, if somebody is hysterical, you do want to give them some calming things.
	But if you can understand, so I've noticed that when you cut bread and these pastas, there's a fly around here.
	Out of your system, then what happens is the body starts, you get more alert.
	It's almost an animal thing.
	It's unbelievable.
	And I feel like my brain is like super alert.
	And I'm very, very much more alert than when I eat a lot of pastas, breads, and these kinds of cereal type things that also make you fat.
	So I just wanted to say this is true.
	Yeah, Carrie, what you are saying is factual, because there are large organizations, not only in the United States, but elsewhere, that are promoting no sugar or flour diets.
	And there's a book called Grain Brain, and it talks about the surprising truth about wheat, carbs, and sugar, and it's a brain's silent killer.
	And as you were saying, it causes lethargy, being fat and overweight.
	People can't think with foggy minds.
	And I agree with what you were saying, Carrie.
	Absolutely.
	Sugar is basically addictive.
	Everyone knows that.
	And it is basically a poison for our systems.
	And, you know, I totally understand where people are so, you know, it's also insidious.
	They put it in everything.
	And I have to say, this is actually an agenda.
	A lot of times when people talk about the Illuminati agenda, they neglect to look at the very basics of our lives, like the electricity in our houses.
	You know, the fluorescent lights that beat down at people at work at all hours of every day.
	All the things that age you.
	They are also aging this group of population to get them out of here quickly.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Shoot them full of big pharma, make the money that way, but then eventually they just want to get rid of them.
	So it's fascinating.
	The whole healthcare system is completely, everyone knows, diabolical.
	Well, and that's true.
	And so I think if we say anything, a solution would be, of course, for everyone that's listening to eliminate.
	Eliminate flour and sugar because you will find, as you're saying, Carrie, you have improved memory.
	Improved mood.
	You lose weight, number one, because certainly the United States, I think, has now surpassed the statistics of obesity over Mexico.
	I think now we are now one of the fatter nations on the planet.
	I could stand to be corrected by that because I know that through trade agreements, we're certainly pummeling other countries with our corporate foods of death But I agree.
	So there's another solution for people.
	And the book, again, Grain Brain.
	And I would highly recommend people take a look at that because just exactly what you're saying.
	So the fatter you are, the smaller your brain is what they're saying.
	And I agree with that completely.
	So I just wanted to also look at one of the questions you had too in your email to me, Alexandra, and a discussion point that we wanted to have about the tsunami bomb and something about the FEMA coffins in Puerto Rico.
	I don't have any...
	Any information on that?
	So I can't discuss that specifically about that period of time in Puerto Rico during October 17th in 2013 that you are referring to.
	But I can say that in the coastlines under attack, storm surge artificially created, you find that they're warring all of the coastlines and reconfiguring the parameters of all Countries, all land masses everywhere and putting many places underground.
	And yeah, and you'd asked too earlier, and we talked about Catherine Horton.
	And so everybody, you can type in and look up what is occurring with Catherine Horton.
	But keep in mind this is sadly an increasing reality throughout the world is the escalating of targeted individuals and we have new pilot, they say pilot programs occurring here in San Francisco,
	Los Angeles, and San Diego about the ability to pick up delusionary people and incarcerate them in mental facilities and certainly inject Psych drugs into these people.
	So I really can't underscore the fact that it's going to become increasingly dangerous for those that are realizing and recognizing what is happening with those people that don't recognize what is happening.
	And we're really going to have to support one another in that arena as well because Another way in which to quiet the increased opportunity that we have to increase this global awareness.
	What would you both have to say about that?
	Yeah, I have talked to two prosecutors here in Czech Republic young young men this day today and how indoctrinated they are.
	It was unbelievable.
	No, there is No Illuminati, no such organization.
	It's absolutely not possible.
	No, it's no meaning to read any documentation about genocide.
	It's not true.
	Simply that.
	They are totally convinced of that.
	So how could they help?
	Well, they would have to, number one, see if their water supply is being fluoridated.
	If they're on the flour and sugar products, because being overweight, you can be a skinny, fat person.
	In other words, you don't have to show the excess weight from the food abuse.
	No matter how much you exercise when you're eating the wrong food, that won't change your foggy mind.
	You can't keep weight off if you're eating the flour and sugar and other toxic foods.
	And I agree with you, Carrie.
	It's an intentional food delivery system.
	People are constantly craving food.
	They're going and eating their comfort foods.
	Many people, of course, suffer fatigue after meals.
	They can't think.
	They can't engage in our reality when they're anxious and stressed out and they're hungry all the time and about hours all the time.
	And eating the toxic snacks that are part of the death food delivery system.
	And just the illnesses that are created with being overweight, osteoporosis and high blood pressure, and again, the craving for sugar and stimulants like caffeine.
	Right.
	You know, I think, I do want to just make a caveat here because we have, humans are, there are so many different varieties of humans, really.
	There are different body types.
	So some body types will look, you know, carry weight much, much more sort of gracefully than others.
	And they're, they're more built for that.
	Whether they're, where they're getting, you know, how they're putting on the weight and how the culture does that, I don't know.
	But, you know, This should be put into a context that's cultural because we're really a hybrid race.
	Human is man of many colors.
	I always want to stress that because it's important whatever we say about anything has to be put into that context of understanding whatever the cultural norms are and also What the natural proclivities of the type of body you have And there are many types of bodies out there.
	We are, as far as I'm concerned, we are a composite of at least 12 ET races, the DNA from that.
	So it's a genome that involves all kinds of different mixtures of things and what's healthy for one person may be unhealthy for another.
	One person may thrive on vegetarianism, another may not.
	So it's, you know, there are some general We know, like we're talking, that food has been used as a drug to dull The senses to dull humans down to, you know, I mean, it gets into, there's so many aspects to that, that in our society, that's, it's just massive.
	And as I said, fluorescent lights, I mean, the electricity that's in, you know, the frequency and the electricity is wrong in our houses, how bad it is for you and all of that, you know?
	And so again, when you don't connect with earth and nature, you're never getting beyond that.
	Well, that's true.
	And I guess I would like to just...
	Alexandra, have you looked at the most current climate report changes that they're saying is we have a strong risk of crisis and it's mounting by the day?
	It's a newly released climate assessment from the Paris Agreements, the Panel on Climate Change.
	Because it's the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and this was released back the first week of October of this year, 2018.
	And they talk about how it's a landmark report from the United Nations Scientific Panel.
	And they paint that climate change is far more dire and immediate consequences of climate change than ever previously thought must be attended to.
	And the world economy, because of the massive damage that's being occurred by the weather events, they're saying that the world economy has to change at a speed and scale that no documented historic precedents in the past.
	In other words, they're saying that we're going to have massive increases of World-worsening food shortages, wildfires, mass die-off of coral reefs, sooner than ever anticipated.
	And the report reveals that it's quite a shock and quite concerning, says one of the authors from the IPCC. And they weren't aware of all of these things, they say, just a few years ago.
	But what I found so amazing, besides Divulging the fact that these are pre-crime plans, again, pre-crime plans that everyone can look at.
	You can look and see the anticipated types of events that will occur in your area.
	If you're not in a wildfire area, well, then you're in tornadoes or flooding or in heightened areas of infectious diseases.
	The plans really do lay that out in various areas.
	But they say, at this point, no matter how much we reduce the CO2 emissions, again, which is reduction of oxygen anyway, we're not going to change the climate because everything has escalated beyond our ability to change any outcomes anyway.
	That's in their report.
	Well, let me also say that, and I think you're sort of alluding to this, that it is a plan.
	In other words, this is what they plan to do.
	It's a better way of understanding what they're doing.
	It's like...
	With all due respect to people that are very into the Bible, the Bible is a playbook.
	It's telling you what they plan to do to you.
	They're going to make it happen.
	See, and when we started this discussion, Deborah, you're talking about all the events that they're going to trigger.
	This is a triggering.
	This is an escalating.
	You could have some small, you could say geysers or whatever, and they're going to take those geysers and they're going to make them You know, sort of change the environment around us.
	So these things are being escalated.
	The earthquake weapons make use of the natural earthquakes that occur every day, small earthquakes all over the world, but they can augment these things.
	They're going to trigger Yellowstone.
	They're going to trigger Canary Islands, for example.
	You know, you're in Europe, Alexandra, and so I think the Canary Islands area, that piece of land which is going to fall at some point into the sea, this stuff is going to be triggered.
	It's back in the days of Atlantis.
	We are basically back in the days of Atlantis before the fall.
	This is our time to deal with it differently.
	But we have just as many diabolical aspects at work now as they did then.
	And so if you want to understand the fall of Atlantis and what happened to the continents at that time, you have to look at the triggering that took place.
	And I can also say that Courtney Brown and his remote viewers did look at the time of Atlantis and did see the triggering that took place.
	And then we also have to look at outer space because I know we're This discussion is centered around what's happening with humans and on Earth.
	But there's a great deal going on with our space program and what they're doing, some very diabolical things, apparently like the downing of various satellites, the satellites being there being a war, taking the satellites over by different sides.
	And what that really entails, the sun observatories that were all shut down at the same time, There were seven of them in addition to the New Mexico location.
	Things that they don't tell Americans that Europeans are well aware of.
	In other words, there is something going on.
	And recently we had some Some weird thing going on with the moon and then we had something weird going on with the sun during the solar observatory shutdown.
	And so I have to say they're not just working on Earth to change the planet.
	They're also working off Earth and they're going to utilize certain things that were used way in those days when...
	Of Atlantis when they actually triggered these things as well.
	And that included targeting with asteroids.
	That is a weapon that various ET races use to direct at a planet.
	They shoot these things like bowling balls or whatever you want to call it.
	So if you think we're going to get hit by an asteroid, we have embedded in the Earth This technology to redirect asteroids away from us.
	And this is actually alien tech that they discovered.
	And I have an interview with a man called Valerie Uvaroff, who was head of the sort of weird desk, if you want to call it that, in Russia.
	And this is many years ago.
	And he talked about these installations that they found.
	There's one in China.
	There's one off the coast in Florida, and there's one, I guess, I think it's in Russia.
	And basically, they found the technology sort of hidden underground, this alien tech that was used to shoot away incoming asteroids, whether they're shot at you on purpose or they come here accidentally.
	So, you know, there's a big emphasis on saying, oh, it's nature.
	Nature is causing all of this.
	But the reality is it's humans and ETs working together to very diabolical ends.
	That is the real problem.
	Nature is actually by comparison.
	Fairly benign.
	It's just that she can be triggered.
	And so we saw this in Hawaii.
	We'll see this with Yellowstone when and if they decide to trigger that.
	And there's evidence they will do so.
	And so a lot of people think it's not that the Bible is wrong.
	It's not that this climate study, whatever, is wrong.
	It's just that they're going to do it rather than it happening naturally.
	Well, as they say, it's been prophesied.
	And I think that's the word.
	It's been prophesied.
	And these documents and the Bible have prophecies.
	And so, what do we do?
	My goal every day is to live in right conduct, be prayerful, and do the next best right thing every day.
	And literally, for me, Living under the Ten Commandments and going forward because we are in diabolical times and personally I believe that it's a time to define who we are and go forward with being the best that we individually can be and must be during this time because we're going to have increased chaos on the streets.
	We're seeing it now.
	We're seeing assassins being created with frequencies.
	We have A document on StopTheCrime.net called the Aquarius Operations Briefing.
	And I would recommend people take a look at that.
	But we're going to have to support one another as we go through these diabolical changes that have been prophesized and that all the documents tell us are going to happen and that are currently happening.
	So, Alexandra, I really want to thank you for putting this discussion together.
	I really would love to have discussions like this frequently because I agree with what the conversation has been about.
	We are increasing the level of knowledge and increasing spiritual vibration.
	And I really want to contribute to that with every breath I take, for sure.
	Yes.
	I would like to also maybe if there will be another opportunity to talk about what we could do, like legislation also, change legislation.
	But today, before we leave, I would like to use the opportunity.
	Here in Europe, we are going to have a huge drill, NATO drill in Northern Europe, where I usually live in Northern Europe in Sweden, but I have heard that it's the biggest drill since the Second World War,
	and it starts in one week from now, and here there were reports here in the Czech Republic that in the middle of the night, that in Slovakia they have seen a huge amount of tanks Going to Ukraine,
	so we are afraid of false flags that they want to start World War III. They have said that they want to start it in like Israel or Middle East, but like It can be up there, so they will probably try.
	And also that there is always this false luck that I have discussed with Kerry, CERN Hoover Dam false luck that would be something really terrible.
	And if you speak about Bibles, so the Illuminati calls it like the abyss or the Bottomless pit, and I have described it to Kerry,
	but how the Illuminati say that they would do a bomb with conserved energy in CERN, then somehow threw it to the waters of Hoover Dam, that would be at that moment electrically charged.
	And it would open a portal, a shortcut to Saturn.
	It's for me quite unimaginable, but they say that in that moment they would come like creatures here.
	Well, actually, what you're describing, Alexandra, has already happened in a variety of places, Montauk being one of them, by the way.
	And currently, CERN has already opened portals, and specifically from, according to one of my witnesses, again, Mark Richards, to the DRACO system, that they work at CERN all the time to keep that portal open,
	so the DRACO can bring in equipment through that portal here onto the planet, and Use it for wars and for transporting sad to say humans, slaves, off this planet and out through the portal.
	So this is going on.
	It goes on.
	It makes use of the refugees in the Middle East.
	A lot of these refugees never arrive to their destination.
	Yeah, they just disappear.
	People are just disappearing.
	We're seeing that here with the homeless population.
	And in Africa as well.
	This is a rampant problem where people are, you know, in war-torn situations.
	Tumultuous areas.
	People can be abducted and taken underground, taken off Earth.
	In other words, millions and thousands, millions of children are being taken off Earth and being, who knows, utilized in various diabolical ways.
	Same with humans in general.
	So it's an amazing thing to me that our...
	This is going on.
	In other words, we know people are disappearing.
	It doesn't matter what you believe in.
	Why isn't there sort of an incredible alert around the planet that humans are under attack and being tracked and disappearing off the planet and that there's a diabolical sort of mission involved an agenda and that why isn't there a body set set up to investigate this you know like any mystery can be investigated and yet there's silence well
	of course Carrie but as we so well know many individuals that are targeted it is because they're already in many instances isolated and the the process of creating More climate-related refugees or economic refugees is creating more isolation and is a greater opportunity for, as you were just saying, and I agree, for people to disappear, and they are.
	And why isn't there some large organization to watch out?
	Well, I think that gets back to us.
	We have to help one another because we recognize this and so many don't.
	And it's been advised to not travel alone, to travel with a buddy system, like just if you were swimming in the ocean, that it's best to have a spotter sitting on the sand.
	And that's the kind of reality that we're in.
	We really have to look after one another more, wouldn't you say?
	Absolutely.
	I think that this kind of bi-coastal, bi-country dialogue is a vital part of that.
	As long as we're talking to each other, it's a very good thing.
	Sharing intel from people I would say, you know, I used to do these roundtable discussions, but the people I invited to do them wouldn't do them for free.
	So then we had to charge money, and then nobody wanted to pay, and so it became a ridiculous kind of thing.
	To do it for free is very good and I'm certainly willing to dialogue with anyone for free.
	There are a lot of people, a lot of researchers that are sort of full of themselves and they won't do anything for free.
	But if you can get good hearted people that understand how important it is that we continue a dialogue with each other from different countries and get more people involved in these kinds of things online because Obviously, the technology is now able to handle it.
	I mean, I've been simulcasting this, and as far as I know, it's working.
	Well, that's why we're doing this today.
	Wouldn't you agree, Alexandra?
	Because we know this is working.
	And we just posted our discussion up on StopTheCrime.net, and it's really taking wings.
	I don't know if you've noticed the increasing views on our most recent conversation that...
	You were saying that many of the websites there and yours included was assaulted, but that's now up on StopTheCrime.net.
	So for anyone that's listening and you want to look at this YouTube, it is entitled, and I appreciate your title that you put here, Alexandra.
	It says, A Deborah Tavares Well-Documented Plan to Kill Billions of From illusion to reality.
	So you can just go to StopTheCrime.net to our YouTube channel and take a listen.
	And I agree there's the need to have these overseas correspondence reports on what's happening so that we understand we're basically under one roof.
	Absolutely.
	I wish that weren't the case.
	I wish that were not the case, but we can wish all we want.
	But by having dialogue, I think it makes all of us stronger because we're having to live and adjust emotionally, physically, mentally to a reality that we were certainly never told was our reality.
	In fact, yeah, there are many discussions around that too.
	But I... I can't thank you enough Alexandra for putting this together and getting this up and out and I would really love to be part of a free exchange of discussion like this more frequently while we're still able to.
	Absolutely.
	And I'm very grateful that you wanted to and we had time and both you and Terry That make it possible.
	Thank you so much.
	Well, Alexandra, thank you all the way from the Czech Republic and overseas to us.
	And Carrie, I know you're in the southern part of California.
	I'm here in the northern part of California.
	And we don't know what is in store for us each day.
	We know that things are dramatically changing.
	Rapidly.
	And I really appreciate this roundtable, as you said, this discussion, because I think it's important for people all over to hear and to know and to look at the documents that are the false flags, that are discussing things that are happening and that are planned.
	And I think, too, we can make decisions based on what we understand the assaults to be.
	For example, you know, people don't need to live right next door to a sewer water treatment plant.
	When we toured that, in fact that's up on YouTube, it's called Sewer Poop Tour.
	And it saves you from going through the nauseous odor of what human feces smell like when you go to these plants.
	And what we discovered is here in Northern California, This particular sewer treatment plant has rain birds that rain out this treated sewer water onto about 1,100 acres of farmland.
	And we see dairy cattle eating, munching on the grass.
	We see hay being baled up that is grown on this sewer-fertilized land with contaminants of Emerging concern and and also then of course now as we learned being pumped up to the geysers.
	So you don't need to live near some of these things.
	You can choose to be a further away and not having your groundwater table poisoned and not eating products that are grown in areas that you're told are treated with human sewer water and also many countries now Are going to be treating water and telling us because we're running out of water, you're going to be having to drink the treated sewer water in your municipal water supplies.
	In fact, that is happening in many countries throughout the world.
	So I think this information provides the knowledge necessary for people to feel empowered and to take some kind of action to survive as long as possible, given the changes that we're being confronted with.
	What would you say to that?
	Yes.
	I agree, too.
	Well, I do have to go, and I'm sure, you know, we've been going for a while, so it's best to keep things under two hours, I've found, on YouTube.
	Otherwise, you get some problems.
	So I do want to sort of bow out at this point, and thank you very much, both of you, for the fascinating discussion, and Alexandra for making this possible.
	Yes, thank you.
	Thank you both.
	I look forward to joining up together here again soon.
	This is Deborah from StopTheCrime.net.
	You can go to our YouTube channel and of course to Carrie's too and I think we'll be posting this up soon, right?
	Yes, we've gone live.
	It is on YouTube right now, and so it will stay on YouTube, fingers crossed.
	And, you know, because they do try to monitor me every single video.
	They mark it before I do it now as being unacceptable.
	And then I have to appeal it.
	So then they give me the green light, luckily.
	But someone sent me something through today that said that there is legislation being put through, I think it's Congress, that's actually going to interrupt this plan of YouTube and Facebook to censor us.
	That they actually have a positive shift going on, probably to do with the Trump administration and the people behind Trump.
	Who are going to challenge this right now as I speak.
	Well, I'm not so confident in that, actually.
	I appreciate that.
	But, you know, these are signs of hope.
	So, you know, we kind of need to, you know, any positive gesture people can make towards their future is a good thing.
	So, anyway, thank you again for doing this.
	Thank you both.
	Thank you.
	Bye, Alexandra.
	Take care.
	Carrie, take care.
	We'll talk again soon.
	All right.
	All right.
	Take care.
	So let me see how I can disconnect.
	I guess I first try that.
	And Alexandra, I am still on with you in case you wanted to have any parting words for the audience.
	Otherwise, we'll just close this down.
	Yeah, I hope we could do it again and maybe talk about the future of what we could do.
	Achieve to do positive for the future.
	All right.
	Bye-bye.
	Thank you very much.
	Okay.
	Bye-bye.
	Take care.
	So I guess close that window.
	And so anyway, thank you everyone for being here.
	I think this has been recording and I hope it has.
	I think Alexandra also made a copy.
	So if this one doesn't work out for whatever reason, she will have it on her website eventually.
	And so thank you again for watching and take care.

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