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Oct. 4, 2018 - Project Camelot

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ARLENE JOHNSON: SHAH OF IRAN AND THE CIA

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	Thank you.
	I've got Arlene Johnson with us and she is a fabulous investigative reporter, author and publisher and her bio is on my website at projectcamelot.tv if you want to read more about her.
	She's won several awards.
	I think International Woman of the Year is quite notable back in 2001.
	So I'm going to bring her on the show.
	She is not using video.
	We're talking over a phone line.
	So hopefully the connection will remain good.
	I'll put her banner so you can at least see her face.
	Arlene, are you there?
	Yes, Carrie, I am.
	Okay, great.
	Lovely to have you here.
	And it's very interesting.
	I've been reading your book.
	I definitely want to dig into what it's all about.
	But first, I'd like to cover some of your background.
	You've got a long history working in the area of basically awakening people really to the political arena, the deeper political arena.
	And social arena, whatever you want to call that.
	So you want to talk about how you began on your journey and perhaps some of the high points along the years up to now.
	Yes, thank you.
	And thank you for having me on, Carrie.
	I am so appreciative of being on your show.
	I have so much respect for you over the years.
	It's an absolute joy to be on your show.
	As for me, I went back to school late.
	I was 38 when I went back after having gone to college for one year, freshman year, because I always regretted not having finished school.
	And so I went back to Pierce College in the western part of San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles, I'll get the AA degree, and then I was fortunately accepted to UCLA. But before I got to UCLA, I went back to my original major, and I enrolled in a class.
	I didn't know the first thing about the professor, but she took me under her wing, made me her protege, and taught me something that she didn't teach the class, and that was the first piece of history that I learned, and that was what the United States did to Cuba.
	And then I graduated from Pierce College and I went into UCLA and I enrolled in a number of classes, one of which was an American history class that centered on the Depression and the Second World War.
	And I learned from one of the graduate students in history the real reason why the United States bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
	And then I met Allie.
	who is from Iran and knew the Shah and his wife Empress Farah who's his widow now personally and he taught me a ton of information including their wonderful culture which is a very giving culture And then he and I actually split up because we had actually been engaged to be married for over
	two and a half years and I moved to New York and I got a library of science master's degree in New York and I started at an annex of Mercy College which was based right in Manhattan where one night in fall of 1993 Ten years after I began learning these pieces of history,
	I learned about the first two reasons why John Kennedy had been assassinated.
	I thought to myself, holy cow, how much luckier can I get?
	The second thought I had was, I cannot keep this in my own head.
	I've got to get this out to people.
	Because one of the books that I read all on my own, never checked it out while I was a student at UCLA, was a book by Philip Agee entitled Inside the Company.
	It's about the CIA. In that book he states that the CIA is in every single country around the world.
	And so when I knew that John Kennedy wanted to disband the CIA, I knew that every decent human being in every country had been betrayed, including United States.
	So after over five and a half years struggle to get my work out, I finally launched in March 2001 with those first two reasons why President Kennedy had been assassinated.
	And the organization that I'm quite certain deposed, wanted the CIA to depose the Shah of Iran because that organization was formed in 1973 and they started in 1977 when Jimmy Carter was in the White House to foment Unrest
	in Iran ultimately betrayed and deposing the Shah of Iran who left Iran on the 16th of January 1979.
	After which two weeks later the CIA's supported Ayatollah Khomeini came back to Iran from Paris where the CIA had been Paying him to support him in Paris, France.
	So the book is setting out for anyone to read all the reasons why the CIA would have wanted to depose the Shah.
	And then because they got away with that, they don't want Americans to know That the CIA deposed the Shah.
	All of Western Europe, Canada, Argentina, know that the CIA deposed the Shah.
	Here in the UK, where I've been for nearly 10 years now, everyone who was alive at that time knows the CIA deposed the Shah.
	Unfortunately, they don't know the real reasons.
	My beloved partner answered my question when I said, what did the newspaper say as to why the CIA deposed the Shah?
	And what he said to me, I said, well, that's nonsense.
	It's not true.
	So that sort of was the impetus that caused me to finally write this book because I wanted to write this book for many years, but because of a lack of funds I didn't have the wherewithal to be able to pay to have it printed up, even in paperback.
	So this is why, because he and I are together, I don't have to put out money for rent, and most of the food, I hardly buy any food at all here.
	So I have the money to pay to have this book printed out, which of course is in hardbound, in honor of a child.
	I think he deserved that.
	Self-publishing is very prevalent nowadays, and you can also have it on Kindle.
	I don't know if you do.
	Did you explore those avenues?
	I actually did.
	My partner has a tenant who's in her 40s, and I said to her one time, should I just have it on PDF form or something like that?
	And she said, no, I like to hold a book in my hands.
	Because see if enough people read this book they the powers that be will not be able to get away with the next war that they want in in So So, um, this is why I'm so grateful to you for giving me the exposure for all all of your supporters To know that this book exists because it is not on Kindle it's not in
	It is in PDF form, but I have to send it to people as a PDF, which I have done because there are people that are too Too poor around the world to be able to afford to pay for it and the shipping of it.
	I have a supporter in Philippines who falls into that category.
	I have a supporter in Iran who falls into that category.
	The value of the real which is the Iranian currency is it would cost him a million reals to buy a 25 pound A hardbound book, so clearly he wouldn't be able to afford that.
	Although there are some rich people in Iran, they probably would.
	But this particular man, I didn't want to have him not be able to read it, so I sent it to him as a PDF. But anyway, people do like to hold a book in their hands a lot.
	A lot of people do.
	That's what the tenant indicated to me.
	So that's why I went ahead and had a book actually printed up.
	Well, I think you could eventually do both if you're interested in reaching a wider audience.
	It's just that with the postage and all that kind of thing, you're not going to get it around the world at this rate.
	It's going to be very difficult.
	Yeah, that is right.
	Because the farther away from the UK people are, the more it costs for postage to send to them.
	So it does make it prohibitively expensive.
	And it is also useful for people that do prefer, you know, there are a lot of books out there.
	It's very nice to have them at your fingertips, so to speak, when you travel, which I like to do.
	Now, I want to ask you, you spent a lot of time investigating the Shah, and you're basically sort of talking about the early history of Iran, also the history of Islam, And how that factors in.
	And what I thought was very nice is that you included tracing how the Vatican basically created Islam as, I would almost say...
	Sort of a fork in the Roman Catholic sort of Jesuit religion side of things, and then basically expanding into Islam and making all of that possible, selecting Mohammed and so on.
	Now, this is not common knowledge out there, and I imagine people that are complete devotees of Islam and the Quran would be rather upset with this notion.
	So, there is a history back there.
	Do you want to talk a little bit about that?
	Well, yeah, the history...
	I've only got the one source in the book, but...
	Saved in my external hard drive.
	I've got seven more sources that say that the Roman Catholic Church created Islam because they wanted to have...
	well, the basic premise is that the Pope wanted to have Jerusalem as part of his empire.
	And so they thought, well, we'll just use the...
	we'll create Islam and we'll use the Muslims to have The Pope acquired Jerusalem as part of the Roman Catholic Empire.
	What happened was that the Muslims decided, no, they wanted it for themselves.
	So they didn't capture it for the Roman Catholic Church, which I found rather ironic.
	Yes, they turned tables.
	So this is how there are mosques in Turkey or is it Lebanon?
	It's in the book.
	There are and there are Roman Catholic churches in Muslim countries and so that's right that's how they came to agree on what The situation would be and apparently it was St.
	Francis of Assisi that helped negotiate this this agreement which when I mentioned to one of my German friends that caused him to want to buy the book so he bought the book from me as well as others that Well,
	it is very pertinent at this time when also they are working very hard To create a war with Iran, it would appear.
	The Russian role right now is also very interesting, and that has a history going back, as does China.
	So I think your book is, in spite of people might be misled, thinking it's history.
	It's actually very pertinent to what's going on right now.
	Yes, well, this is why when my partner suggested that I have some wording on the cover, Indicating about Syria, I agreed with him 100% because if people aren't interested in the Shah,
	who's been out of power for 39 years now, they might very well be interested in what's happening today to Bashar al-Assad or what they're trying to achieve to get him out of power.
	And so I put that there very quickly and very happily.
	Down at the bottom, underneath the picture of the Shah on the front cover.
	So people might buy the book just because of that.
	Because, see, the Shah al-Assad, President of Syria, has the same philosophy as did the Shah of Iran regarding all religions.
	All religions live safely in both countries when the Shah was in Iran.
	Jews lived there.
	I'm sure you read the part that spoke about when I met a Jewish girl on the bus going onto campus.
	And she said, I'll never be able to live in Iran again.
	And I was absolutely flabriasted.
	I said, why?
	And she said, because I'm a Jew.
	And because obviously the Jews lived safely in Iran while the Shah was there.
	And they live safely in Syria now.
	Some of the ones from Syria have left, but interestingly about those that have left who are Jewish from Syria is the fact that Syrians don't touch their property because the property belongs to those people and they just don't.
	Invade it or take it over because they're not there.
	So I find that extremely interesting.
	There was something I wanted to read about that for people to understand why the Jewish community could live in Syria, which is a Sunni Muslim country.
	It's because Bashar Assad is what we call an Alawite.
	The Alawites are the ones that are tolerant of all religions, whether it's Christianity or Islam or Hindu, any of them.
	So his wife, who was born in London, England, talks about in the chapter Where it talks about her.
	She said, let me try to explain it to you.
	That church is a part of my heritage because it's a Syrian church.
	She continued, the Umad mosque is the third most important holy Muslim site, but within the mosque is the tomb of St.
	John the Baptist.
	She said, we all kneel in the mosque in front of the tomb of St.
	John the Baptist.
	That's how religions live together in Syria.
	But yet, even though 97% of the Syrian people voted for Bashar al-Assad to be their leader in 2000, the West is trying to say that he is violating their human rights and they're doing the same thing to Bashar al-Assad that they did to the Shah.
	And his twin sister were desirous of helping women and to get the children educated because you need an educated populace in order to become a world power as the Persian Empire had been back before Christ was born.
	So this is why it's so ironic that they're trying to do the same thing today to Bashar al-Assad as they successfully did to the Shah of Iran.
	And so it's just equal because history is able to be repeated because people are deceived, such as, well, everyone around the world.
	I think there were Nobody really knew these reasons.
	I've had them in my head for all these years.
	Allie and I were together from 1985 when I was a student at UCLA until after I graduated from there in 1987.
	We were still together until fall of 1989 when we split up due to misunderstanding And in all that time, I learned so much from him.
	I hear you.
	Now, Ali, was this the son of the Shah?
	No.
	Ali's parents and the Shah and Empress Farah entertained back and forth in their homes in the northern section of Tehran, which is the section of wealthy people.
	When I was at UCLA. I was in one of my sociology classes.
	Had a teaching assistant who was, of course, a graduate student who is herself from Iran.
	And Ali had said to me, don't ever say my last name to people.
	But I forgot.
	And she and I were talking about, you know, the situation with different classes of people.
	And so I told her his last name and she said, oh well that explains it.
	She said he's in the top 1% of socio-economic society in Iran.
	They don't act like other echelons of socio-economic society act.
	That's why he was so different.
	And so that's why I could put that in my book, that I met a man who was in the top 1% of socioeconomic society.
	Ali's father was a dentist.
	He had four clinics in Iran, one of which was for poor people, where the services were completely free.
	And his mother was a typical housewife.
	Ali was born in 1946.
	I was born in 1943, not that it matters, but he grew up in a home where his mother didn't have to go out to work like, you know, so many women have to go out to work now because of the economy in every country, the United States and England and you name it, everywhere.
	So she was a housewife and she had, you know, a maid and I don't know what all servants they had but at least they had a maid which is very very common for which people in Iran in those days to have you know a maid so and you're saying they were just friends they were friends with the Shah and Empress Farah all right okay so they socialized and and and this obviously educated you to some degree
	about the upper echelons of the society there Yes, exactly.
	But even he taught me about people that were out in the villages where he was teaching Persian to students.
	You know, because before they had not had the opportunity of having an education.
	So the Shah developed an education corps and after Ali served in the Iranian army He served in the Education Corps and he told me about how he went to the villages to teach and if he complimented some family or someone on something,
	anything in their home, the culture there is to give them the object, whether it's a vase or whatever it might happen to be.
	And he said it got so bad that he didn't compliment the people on On their possessions because they would always give him whatever it was.
	I learned about that from him and that are poor people that don't have the means that his family had.
	That's just the culture of the country.
	Okay, so with regard to what happened to the Shah of Iran, did you...
	I'm still going through your book, so I'm not done with it.
	I'm not sure whether or not you were contacted or had any insider contacts which gave you information about how the CIA was involved, how that came down, or any of the details.
	And let me say to my audience that Jordan Maxwell...
	Of course, is very aware of what she was talking about when she talked about the Pope creating Islam.
	And that was the Pope Pius XII. Is that correct?
	I will take your word for it, Carrie, because I don't know.
	That's in your book.
	I don't know, you know, maybe there was another pope before him, but at any rate, what I wanted to say was, in terms of the CIA bringing down the Shah of Iran and bringing Khomeini in, do you know how that happened?
	They actually worked with the Muslim Brotherhood.
	And the Communists too.
	This is why I gave the title Victim of His Times, because here we have the Soviet Union, which was Communist, and then the Arab nations, which the Shah, you probably haven't got to the interview yet, in which an Italian woman asked the Shah, who do you consider to be your worst enemy?
	Thinking that he would say the Soviet Union, but he didn't.
	He said Iraq.
	Actually, I am reading that.
	He didn't really have much regard for Arabs.
	Well, actually, I am getting...
	I am at the interview.
	Oriana Felici, she was a very well-known journalist.
	And so I think people will relate to that.
	And it's a fascinating interview, no doubt about it.
	I don't know if there's an audio or video of it.
	Do you happen to know that?
	Well, I know that they wanted me to pay for it, but I wasn't willing to do that.
	So I summarized it the best that I could.
	But it's difficult to summarize, you know, the answers by a notable, you know, individual like the Shawist.
	So I let those go just the way he answered her with those.
	But he did say Iraq was what he considered to be his enemy.
	And instead of the Soviet Union, he said we have contracts with the Soviet Union or words to that effect in terms of arrangements.
	But his army When Alan served in the army he was in Mashhad which is in the northeastern corner of Iran nearest to Afghanistan because the Shah absolutely forbade the Soviet Union from invading Afghanistan and so Jimmy Carter told the then leader of the Soviet Union which I have his name in the book that
	They could get their warm water port.
	Ali told me all this if they invaded Afghanistan.
	So the Soviet Union fell for it and in 1980 they did, or it might have been in 1979, they did invade Afghanistan.
	They put in their puppet leader in Kabul and went to war against Afghanistan in order to get access to a warm water port.
	Unfortunately, no country ever wins in Afghanistan.
	Apparently, it's such a mountainous country that it's impossible for any other country to invade it and win there.
	The Soviet Union didn't win in Afghanistan.
	That's correct.
	However, you may be familiar with this part of history that has to do with, I believe it's Brzezinski, who wanted to embroil the Soviet Union in a war in Afghanistan in order to weaken the country.
	So they must have been operational behind the line, so to speak.
	in getting this whole warm water port whatever offer was made in order to get them into into Afghanistan because this is part of the The Plan for the New American Century, I think it's even in writing, whether it's in that particular document, I forget, but it is very clearly, it's part of the sort of the neocon agenda, what we call the neocons, back in the day.
	And of course, it continues to now as they all have a very clear-cut agenda.
	And it also involves taking One by one, the countries in the Middle East down and replacing the people that are in rulership positions.
	Now, this has been done, and we've got a second sort of layer of that happening at this time.
	It's interesting because they seem to be having some trouble getting rid of Bashar al-Assad in Syria.
	And...
	The chapters I have on Syria, of which there are four, tell why he is still in power in Syria.
	There's several reasons why he is still in power in Syria, and I hope that he remains in power in Syria, because God helps the Christians there in Syria if he is taken out of power they won't survive he's protecting the Christian community in Syria to this day and all right well this may fall into is a major factor in that but there are other factors
	as well so there's an interview in the in the book that's the fourth of the four chapters of a Syrian woman who actually lives in the United States Legally, she's been in the United States for 20 years or more.
	She has, I believe, a PhD from an American university.
	She did an interview with a man who I respect, James Perloff.
	I've never found him to be caught in a lie, ever, of all the things I've read of his.
	I find him to be a very good source for truth, and that's who interviewed the Syrian woman who is in the United States, even as we speak, talking about the fact that the Syrian people love Bashar al-Assad.
	Now, they wouldn't love him if he was doing chemical weapons on them, so what we're being fed by the mainstream press is a complete and utter deceit.
	And I just want to make that completely clear.
	They should lay off Syria.
	But the problem is Trump is in bed with the State of Israel.
	He campaigned or he endorsed Benjamin Netanyahu when he was running for Prime Minister of the State of Israel.
	I saw the video myself.
	They have since taken it down.
	It was a YouTube.
	But Trump obviously knows that they want a greater Israel.
	And let me just read you something that I've got in the book.
	Let's see, I bookmarked it.
	Yeah, there it is.
	My apology.
	Oh, okay.
	Here we are.
	On page 350, as you will read later in this multi-part Fortress Americas report, some of the first targets of the Zionist hunter-killer teams in North and South America will be prominent Jews who do not see eye to eye with their crazed Zionist brethren.
	Thus rendering them higher priority targets than even the leaders of various hostile American militias.
	I find that highly revealing.
	They want more than what they're trying for in the Middle East.
	They want the Americas.
	Well, over my dead body.
	I love my country.
	I'm not there, but I still love the American people and the country.
	It's the government I'm not keen on.
	I didn't vote for Trump.
	I didn't vote for Hillary.
	You may remember that I sent an email before the 2016 election, Carrie, in which I said, vote for just about anybody.
	But Hillary or Trump?
	Because they're just alike.
	They're just alike.
	Trump said what he knew people wanted to hear and people fell for it.
	And I've still got people writing me how wonderful Trump Trump is, but...
	Well, there are...
	You know, the difference is that the military...
	There's a certain portion of the military that are really running things behind the scenes.
	Trump is something of a figurehead, as all presidents are.
	They are more.
	They are.
	Yes.
	And so what we're really dealing with is, in essence, a military coup.
	but they are trying to take down the pedophiles and do a number of indictments against all kinds of things that have been going on.
	So there are some positive things that are happening in his administration and behind the scenes.
	Oh, yeah, I know there are.
	I've kept track of what good things he's done.
	Like apparently he's decreased the amount of money that is paid to the United Nations, and he's also closed down TTP.
	If I understand correctly.
	Yeah, I mean, there are some things that he has done.
	Yeah, realizing also that global warming is a farce, various things that are coming to light under his administration.
	So, you know, it's a mixed bag, needless to say.
	But to keep on topic, so to get back to really Iran and The nature of the Iranian people and why, over the centuries, I find it quite fascinating that this place has been so contested, heavily contested, and also that people don't understand that these are Aryans.
	They are different, really...
	Yeah, they're Aryans.
	Their sentence structure in Persian language is the same as German language.
	The verb comes at the end of the sentence.
	They are Aryan.
	Ali was dark-skinned.
	His mother came from Shiraz, which is in the southern part of Iran.
	When I first met him, I thought he was from Mexico.
	But then, of course, I found out that he wasn't from Mexico at all.
	He was from Iran.
	You can see the picture of the Shah's face, how fair-skinned he was.
	I saw a photograph of Ali's father, and he was just as fair-skinned as the Shah was.
	Because Ali's father was born in Tehran, which is in the north of Iran.
	But they are an Aryan people.
	The Arabs are Arabs.
	In fact, it's interesting.
	The last quarter I was an undergraduate at UCLA. I did a sociological study where I went to a mall and I had questions made out.
	And one of those questions that I asked people that would answer my question there was, are Iranians Arabs?
	And amazingly, quite a lot of people, I don't remember what percentage now, but quite a lot of people said yes, that they were.
	That's because they don't know.
	So that's...
	That's one interesting point that I'm glad you addressed that because they are Aryan.
	Well, it affects their world view.
	And Germans are Aryan as well.
	Right.
	Well, it affects their world view is the reason it matters.
	It also has to do with, again, the ancient history going back to Persia and all of that.
	A lot of people don't know their history.
	I think people tend to lump all the peoples in the Middle East together when they're quite diverse.
	It is a fascinating area of the world.
	Obviously, there's a great deal of contention around it.
	This also has to do with the heavy energy that comes out of Part of, really, Jerusalem and part of Israel that has to do with the construction of the globe of the earth and all that.
	So they're tapping into a very strong vortex energy.
	In terms of Iran and where they're at right now, in terms of their leadership, do you look at that later in the book at all?
	No, it basically is...
	The time of Khomeini, and then Ali also told me that Rafsanjani, who became the leader after Khomeini died, which was in 1989, ten years after he came back to Iran.
	Rafsanjani, who was the next leader, was a CIA operative.
	Ali shared that with me when we were together.
	And he also told me that Rasenjani was told to leave the chambers because they knew there was going to be an explosion because they caused it.
	Where I don't know how many dozens of other Iranians were killed in that, but Rasenjani was spared because he was CIA. So that all makes sense to me because Ali taught me that.
	Okay, so obviously the CIA has an issue with Iran at this time.
	So how do you kind of figure that?
	Well, let me tell you what I feel the CIA is all about.
	The CIA is carrying out the agenda of the elite.
	The Knights of Malta are in CIA. Like Dulles, he was a Knight of Malta.
	Of course.
	And so they're predominant in CIA. And I think, if memory serves me, the FBI as well.
	At any rate, the CIA carries out the will of the powers that be.
	And the Shah was a nationalist.
	He was trying to create the same scenario as when the the Persian Empire existed which was the largest empire at to that date of any country around around the world before before Christ was born and the Shah wanted to make it great then too because they were also tolerant of all religions When the
	Persian Empire existed.
	And so the powers that be are globalists.
	If you look at Rockefeller, Rothschild, your audience is so sophisticated because of your incredibly fine work that they know what the powers that be are globalists.
	But the Shah was a nationalist, so yes, of course he had to go.
	But that is not the main reason.
	But there were things that he was doing, which I have in the book, that they did not tolerate.
	And so that's why they wanted to get rid of him.
	And of course they did, between communism and And the Muslim Brotherhood, which Egypt absolutely forbade the Muslim Brotherhood of being in Egypt because they apparently knew what it was.
	And so they set about to have the Shah's human rights attacked when the Red Cross went in and they could They would have seen if Sadak had been torturing people there in the prisons in Iran.
	So they gave Iran a clean bill of health during the Shah's reign.
	And they wouldn't have needed to, but they did.
	Well, yeah, and if they, you know, with regard to Egypt, of course, Egypt has been basically a kind of a gulag for a lot of Western prisoners, and there has been a lot of torture going on in Egypt.
	This is very covered up, of course.
	I assume you know about this.
	No, I'm not an expert in Egypt.
	I know that Sadat allowed the Shah and Episphara to come there Because, see, they make an excuse as to why they took the American Embassy as hostage back in fall of 79.
	It was because people were figuring out that they had been screwed by Khomeini, so they were starting to object.
	So Khomeini told the Revolutionary Guard take the American Embassy hostage and somehow that is what caused people then to rally around Khomeini.
	I don't understand that logic but that seems to be what people do when some tragedy happens like taking all those human beings as hostage in fall of 79 after Khomeini had come back into Iran on 1st of February And so they did and then, you know, the rest is history.
	But it was not because they wanted the Shah back to put him on trial.
	It was because Khomeini was losing power because the Iranian people were starting to see through him and realize what had happened to them under his regime.
	That's right.
	The passages were taken.
	Okay.
	But you mentioned the Trilateral Commission as being instrumental in taking down the Shah.
	Can you explain why you say that?
	Yes.
	Well, let me say people have theorized that it was the Council on Foreign Relations that did.
	Well, the Council on Foreign Relations was formed in 1921.
	Then other people have said that Bilderberg did.
	Well, Bilderberg was formed in 1954, but the Trilateral Commission was formed in 1973, and they invited Jimmy Carter to become a member of the Trilateral Commission, and then he was the one that actively pursued this human rights issue with regard to the Shah.
	So that seems to me to be the logical organization that saw to it that the Shah was betrayed.
	And so that's why I have the chapter in there that says, with friends like this you don't need enemies because the Shah considered Kissinger and Rockefeller to be friends.
	These are satanic, you know, Evil people who, you know, cause more death, you know, look at Kissinger in Chile, but more death than other, you know, people.
	So the Shah was completely confused about that, and it was to his detriment.
	He shouldn't have trusted them at all, but he did.
	All right.
	That's why I did that chapter on the Bohemian Grove, which you probably read that whole long chapter.
	I don't think I've gotten to that one yet, but of course I know about it.
	You know about it, yeah.
	You're in Northern California, are you not?
	Well, no, but I did grow up in Northern California.
	I went to Sonoma State University, as a matter of fact, which isn't far from behind me, and I have driven along the perimeter of that area.
	So I am familiar with what is going on there to some degree.
	And of course, it's all been popularized by Alex Jones, etc., etc.
	And there's a lot of layers to what goes on there, interesting things.
	But this all does...
	It is fascinating that the Shah of Iran back in those days...
	And his wife, you give her special notice as well as being a person who is quite a human rights activist, and yet she had to work...
	What she was working with was basically the United Nations, not realizing...
	No, his twin sister was working with the United Nations, and I addressed that in the fourth edition.
	I mean, the fourth chapter of the book, because she was his twin sister.
	She died now.
	96 years old she lived.
	She died without having been able to achieve her goals because she didn't know what the United Nations really is.
	But of course I've known what it really is for quite a few years and I've actually published on the UN in my work.
	The 17th edition of my work is exposing the United Nations and And demanding that it be unfunded so it will just completely collapse.
	Because the United States pays more than any other nation to it.
	Well, it is interesting because, well, at least word of mouth, Trump is trying to shun them, trying to withdraw from them.
	And at the same time, it is interesting to wonder what really keeps the thing going.
	It is the New World Order, sort of the seat of the New World Order, if you will.
	Absolutely.
	So at this time, what is the relationship between Putin's Russia and Iran, as far as you understand it, and Syria as well?
	Because those two countries seem to be very interwoven.
	Yes, they are very succinctly their allies.
	Now, can we go to Ed and I'll call you right back?
	Oh, right.
	Yes, no problem.
	I'll let people know that that's what we're doing.
	So thank you very much and we'll bring you back in just a minute.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Okay.
	Okay, thank you.
	So what we're going to do here is we're going to take a short break.
	She has a certain kind of phone line.
	She wasn't able to use Skype or any of those kinds of things.
	And so she is...
	I'm not sure how her phone situation is, but there's something where she gets a free call for under 59 minutes or something.
	I don't know.
	And then she has to come back in a few minutes or a minute or something like that.
	So she'll call me and we'll resume the conversation, which is quite fascinating, as you can imagine.
	So her book is available.
	I want to say it's on my website and she's calling me already.
	So hold on one second.
	Let me get this.
	Hello?
	Yes, hi.
	Hi.
	Okay, great.
	So you were able to call me right back.
	So that's great.
	So I was just letting people know where to get your book.
	There is a link on my website, projectcamelot.tv or projectcamelotportal.com.
	That goes to the same place.
	Unfortunately, the portal, the actual.org has been disconnected from my main site because my webmaster has been missing.
	For months, actually, and was just found, apparently had been ill, unable to contact me.
	We're not sure why.
	That's a very mysterious circumstance.
	But just so you know that it's better to, at this time, go to projecthamelot.tv if you want to get to this article that will have a link to purchase her book.
	So we were just, I had just asked you sort of a leading question about the relationship between...
	Russia, Iran, and Syria.
	Yes.
	Well, you know, in the section of the book that talks about Bashar al-Assad, you see a picture of Putin.
	I have a Russian friend who is from the Santa Clara area of California.
	She was born in Russia.
	She says that Putin died, and this is a clone.
	And this photo that I've got in the book Really brings that out, because Putin's eyes are just like that of a clone.
	Let me see if I can find the page, because I didn't bookmark this.
	You know, I have heard this, actually.
	And in fact, just for my audience's sake.
	Yeah, he really looks like a clone.
	But I like what he's doing.
	He's an extremely enigmatic man.
	My Russian friend, I think she's sitting in a fire pit there in the United States.
	I said to her, why don't you go back home to Russia?
	And she said, no, won't ever go back there.
	She doesn't trust Putin.
	But for all intents and purposes, he is The main reason why Bashar al-Assad is still the president of Syria.
	See, the United States created al-Qaeda, ISIS, al-Nusra, which is the Syrian equivalent of al-Qaeda.
	The U.S. has created all those organizations, and they are the ones that are creating so much chaos in the Middle East.
	They were in Iraq, And now they're in Syria and the U.S. is supporting them along with the State of Israel.
	They are just nightmares for the Syrian people and that's why so many have left as refugees and come to Europe and gone.
	I'm sure they've gone to the United States too.
	They wouldn't have left Syria if there was work.
	I mean, there's been so much war because of these organizations that the U.S. has created that it's so ironic what the U.S. is doing.
	But let me explain one thing that I changed and you probably remember last December Yeah, you there?
	Yeah, I don't know what that interruption was.
	That was not coming from my side.
	Not a problem.
	Not a problem.
	Let's see, where was I? So, you were going to talk about what was going on with Iran and Syria and Putin, basically.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, they are allies.
	I mean, perhaps you were going to talk in more detail about Al-Qaeda and what is, in essence, you know...
	Al-Nusrah.
	Al-Nusrah.
	I mean, we know they're being trained by the CIA and they are attacking the national...
	They're being supported financially by the United States.
	Oh, I know what I was going to say.
	Last December, I made a major change...
	In my last three editions, the United States is the military component of the New World Order.
	That's why all these wars have happened since World War II ended.
	The United States was designated to be the military branch of the New World Order, which is, of course, you know, the one world government as to, I'm sure, your entire audience, which is the equivalent of another Dark Ages.
	Anybody like George Bush standing before Congress saying, we will have a new world order.
	You know, this man is a Satanist.
	He is, oh my God, he makes my blood boil.
	He's so evil.
	And he was brought to the United States to destroy the United States.
	That is a piece I've had ever since I published my Last edition, the 37th, which was in March of 2012, in an article about Nikola Tesla in which there's a sentence in there that not only exposes that Bush is not Bush at all, Prescott Bush is not George Herbert Walker Bush's father at all.
	George Herbert Walker Bush is a sheriff and he was brought to the United States To destroy it.
	It's in that article about Nikola Tesla.
	So if people read that, which is completely free, all my azine editions are free on my website for the entire world.
	Let me ask you, Arlene, is this the democracy.net?
	Is that what it's called?
	Yeah, truedemocracy.net.
	And the icon where all this sits is the one that says magazine.
	Because my work was supposed to be a magazine that people would hold in their hands when they were riding the bus or riding the subway or wherever...
	You know, they could hold a magazine, but it never became a magazine.
	The closest it ever was to being a magazine were the prototypes that I had printed up so I could get it translated into other languages so that people that don't read English would know what they were reading.
	But that never happened.
	Because another intifada began in the Holy Land and I thought, I've just got to get this out.
	I cannot see more Palestinians dying, you know, now in early 2001.
	So I just put it out as an e-zine and some people subscribed to it back at that time.
	Most people didn't.
	I was giving it free.
	I gave it free to the universities.
	I tried to get the public school superintendents to buy it and five of them actually did, but the rest of the about 20,000 superintendents around the United States didn't buy it, didn't give me a purchase order or any money for it.
	I would have been a millionaire for 11 years, but that never happened.
	So I changed it.
	I made a major change in which I shared with people something that I thought about creating another edition of, and that is the three echelons of the New World Order.
	The Vatican is the religious Echelon of the New World Order.
	The City of London, which is independent of the UK completely, is the financial echelon of the New World Order, and then the United States, of course, the military.
	So we're talking about all these wars, and this is why there's so much war industry in the United States.
	Well, yes, and this gets into the off-planet stuff as well.
	Now, I'm very interested because you are including some of the information about Inslaw and Michael Riconosciuto here, and I'm sort of skipping ahead in your book, and I'm wondering...
	Yeah, that is from a man in Napa, California.
	He's no longer alive, who did the Napa Sentinel, I believe, and I found what he published to correlate with what I know, so that's why I included it.
	Because they flew George Herbert Walker Bush over to Paris to negotiate holding the hostages longer until Reagan would be elected in November 1980.
	Well then, of course, the Iranians held the hostages until the inauguration in January.
	Right.
	Why they did, because the Shah had died the previous July 1980.
	He died, so they would have given up the hostages because their excuse for holding them didn't hold water anymore.
	The Shah was dead, and so they couldn't bring him back and put him on trial and put him in a cage and, you know, totally insult the Pallavi family by doing that.
	And so they would have let them go, you know, before.
	But one of the people that was involved in that had the money.
	Maybe it was Rukhan Oshiyoto.
	I don't know.
	I don't remember right off the top of my head right now.
	But someone had a check for $40 million.
	Yeah, it must have been $40 million that they gave Iran to...
	Hold the hostages until the election was over, so Jimmy Carter would not be re-elected.
	Although Jimmy Carter, of course, was a member of the Trilateral Commission, the same as George Herbert Walker Bush was.
	So he would have done whatever they wanted him to do anyway, but the Bush family wanted to get into power, so that's why they didn't want him Remaining in power.
	So that's why they gave the Iranians the money to hold the hostages until the election could be, you know, was finished.
	So I read something about that once the hostages were freed that they did talk about that there had been some torture.
	So that was news to me because I never knew about that in the past.
	You know, what Ali taught me, I could have fit it into like a 20-page paper, but I thought, well, let me do some research and put together a book, and that way, you know, I would learn.
	And I did learn.
	I actually thought that Iran's central bank had been taken over by Rothschild, which is the case for virtually every central bank around the world, with the exception of just a tiny few countries.
	But it's not.
	Iran still owns their own central bank, the same as North Korea owns their own central bank.
	Now, I'm sure you understand if you didn't already know why they're going up against both these countries because they both own their own central bank instead of Rothschild and that cabal owning it.
	Well, yes, at least one of the reasons.
	There are others as well, and it gets into a more sort of a modern look at what's really going on behind the scenes.
	And I don't know if you're...
	Are you tracking that, you know, modern-day politics?
	You know, it seems you're up to speed on Putin possibly being a clone.
	I've actually gotten a confirmation...
	From Mark Richards, someone I interviewed in prison, who I just came back from interviewing again, who mentioned that.
	And he actually said something similar to you.
	He said, the clone is much nicer.
	So that's really interesting.
	And I'm not sure where that goes.
	Obviously, my understanding is clones don't last that long, so they'd have to keep replacing him if that were true.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	Yeah, that's what I've been told.
	Now, still, they don't have the sort of longevity necessary to sort of hang in there for a very long time.
	Okay.
	I do know apparently Putin, whatever form he's in, has become an Orthodox Christian because he was born a Jew.
	That's what my friend in California said, that the family were Jews, but I would like to think that it is true that Putin became an Orthodox Christian, since I'm a Christian, and I think it's a pretty nice thing to be, anyway.
	No, but that gets back into the politics about what's going on in the Middle East.
	I wanted to make a comment about something you were saying about the history and how, you know, the Roman Catholic Church.
	It's the Roman Catholic Church and the Jesuits who actually were banding with the sort of the Muslims and sort of the, I guess, Islam people.
	To go after the Christians who were considered to be heretics, basically, by the Roman Catholic Church.
	In other words, there's a split there that people I don't think are aware of.
	And this is interesting.
	One time I heard something.
	This is completely off the topic of the Shah or Assad's.
	And that was the reason why they went after Germany for World War I and II is because of Martin Luther.
	He pulled away, you know, the Protestant Reformation away from the Roman Catholic Church.
	So they wanted to punish Germany because of what he did.
	And that makes sense to me.
	I mean, it just seems logical to me.
	I wondered if you had any thoughts on that yourself.
	Well, you know, I haven't delved too deeply into that area, but I did hear a bit of that.
	I don't know really what would be the basis of it, but I can tell you that the objective, I don't know if you know about my witness, Leo Zagami, who was involved in the P2 Lodge.
	I've listened to Leo Zagami.
	He's a wealth of knowledge.
	I haven't listened to him for years.
	I remember listening to him when I was back in the United States in 2008.
	Okay, well, he said that the objective, the ultimate objective of the New World Order is to get a, basically, you know, to get what they call Armageddon, using the playbook of the Bible, to actually create a war in the Middle East that is, you know, in essence, Wraps into a kind of a World War, Third World War, whatever you want to call that.
	But it has to involve the prosecution of Christians.
	And you mentioned that if they take down, I guess, Bashar al-Assad, that he is the one protecting the Christians.
	So it does make sense.
	That's exactly it.
	That's one reason why they want him out.
	Right.
	So they can, you know, kill off the Christians.
	And then the world...
	Then the world will want to get involved in, you know, like, you know, then obviously tensions and emotions will skyrocket if they get a lot of Christians being tortured and this sort of thing.
	So they're going to create their war if they do this kind of thing.
	So I think your book, again, is great background for helping people understand how this could come to be.
	Yes, yes, right, because the Persian Empire was tolerant of all the religions at that time.
	Of course, there weren't any Christians at that time because it was before Christ.
	Well, I mean, I can say...
	Egypt is very tolerant, you may know, of Christians.
	And this is not, again, a little known fact.
	So it doesn't surprise me that there would have been tolerance also in Iran, certainly not publicized, and then Syria.
	These are the kinds of things you never hear in the mainstream, of course.
	That's right.
	Yeah, this is why when Allie said to me that Islam respects people of the book, and I didn't know any different.
	I wasn't a Christian in those days.
	I didn't become a Christian until 2005, long after Allie and I were apart.
	I was living in Norway when I became a Christian.
	So when he said that to me, Islam is tolerant of people religions by the book that means Jews Christians and Muslims well now I was shocked when you know I would hear about Muslims killing Christians and it's going on here in England because this isn't the way Islam is supposed to be but that was because the Shah was tolerant of
	all the religions and So it wasn't true Islam.
	And it's not true Islam in Syria either, because Bashar al-Assad has the same philosophy as did the Shah in Iran.
	And so that's one reason of numerous reasons why they want Bashar al-Assad out of power in Syria.
	Because of his tolerance for all the religions, including Jews and Christians, because he's an Alawite.
	I never heard the word Alawite as respects the Shah, but maybe he was an Alawite too, I don't really know.
	In all my research doing this book, I never came across the name Alawite, A-L-A-W-I-T-E, to describe the Shah.
	But the philosophies were exactly the same between the two men, and of course Syria and Iran are allies even now.
	There are Iranians that are helping Bashar al-Assad to stay in power in Syria.
	So anyway, I found an article today that was published yesterday, the 3rd of October, by Freedom Outlook or Outpost and it's so applicable to what you and I are talking about now in this interview.
	So I wanted to read excerpts from it just quickly and then my comments because I actually typed out, I used to respect the Freedom Outpost but not after reading the vast majority of this article.
	So if I could read some excerpts of this article along with my comments, it would be wonderful because I don't know how many people receive Freedom Outposts.
	I get it every day.
	And some of the stuff here is just pure propaganda.
	It says, But Washington D.C. did not take this lying down and fired back.
	It was about the Iranian Foreign Minister claiming the U.S. sanctions were a form of psychological warfare with the intent of bringing about a regime change.
	But Washington D.C. did not take this lying down and fired back.
	The U.S. seat of government informed the court it had no jurisdiction in our republic to rule on the case since it was a matter of national security.
	Now in my 36th edition I published the definition of national security and so I kind of pasted it into this.
	I published back in 2011.
	Increasingly we see this term national security used to describe the security of a nation but this is not what national security means.
	National security means the security of the elite, not decent citizens of any given nation.
	So the next time you see national security in an article, know that it is not your security that it is referring to.
	It is the security of those who deceive you.
	And when I got back that edition for proofreading, I found that the National Security Agency had Removed those last two words, deceive you.
	And I laughed out loud because they thought I wouldn't catch it, but I did catch it and so I told my website developer to put the deceive you back in.
	So it's the security of those who deceive you.
	That's what national security is.
	And then another part here, it says, the article says, naturally all of this comes after President Trump rejected the failed nuclear deal negotiated by Muslim sympathizer Barack Obama and his keystone cops and rejected overreaching international organizations.
	It continues, Trump claimed the aid given allowed that nation to support terrorism and construct nuclear missiles.
	He's referring to Iran.
	With the nature of the Iranian government being what it is, Trump's claim is not without merit.
	But then what I know is, but then the U.S. government ought to allow the Shah's son to return to Iran to rule it, especially since that is what the Iranian people want, according to my research that is in my book.
	And then the article continues, because of the ideology of Islam allowing Takiyah.
	Now, a takiyah is a term I have in my book and what it means, which means concealing their beliefs, but concealing their beliefs because of fear.
	They're afraid that if they say what their beliefs are, that they will be killed or just about.
	Not secrecy, you know, as People who have something to hide are keeping secrets.
	That's not what Takiyah means.
	But this article doesn't define what Takiyah means.
	But I have it in my book, so that's why I fished it out and put it in there as a comment.
	And Iran having a government steeped in Islam.
	Well, you know, Iran wasn't always an Islamic nation.
	It was a, oh, I forget, the very first chapter of the book, you know, it was Zoroastin.
	Yeah, which is very interesting.
	The money given the Iranian government is not used for, quote, humanitarian, unquote, efforts.
	Iranian officials claim the sanctions imposed by the U.S., Potentially endanger civil aviation safety in Iran and the lives of its users.
	Well, if they would let the people of Iran want to be in control, namely the Shah's son, Reza, who lives in Eastern United States in exile, then they wouldn't have this problem.
	They would only have the problem of the state of Israel wanting to expand to all across the The Atlantic.
	Can I ask you another question if you're through with this part?
	What I wanted to ask you, you had mentioned this person, his name is Harry V. Martin that worked for Napa Sentinel, I guess.
	It was his newspaper.
	Harry Martin was the publisher of the Napa Sentinel.
	He was the owner of it.
	I see.
	Now, who is the person?
	I mean, his name is on several of the articles that you've put in your book.
	And I'm just wondering, you had mentioned somebody who had passed on.
	I'm wondering who that was.
	That was Harry V. Martin.
	Oh, it was.
	He died.
	I was in contact with his daughter who inherited all his works to get permission to reprint her What he had published, you know, just as a courtesy.
	I don't really have to do it, but I thought as a courtesy I would ask her for permission to reprint, which she gave me written permission to reprint what her father had published.
	It was 12 articles and I just created a chapter of it.
	I think it's the longest chapter in the book.
	It's a tremendous amount of research and it looks quite fascinating so I'm certainly going to be interested to see it.
	I just wondered if he died of natural causes or not.
	That is a good question, Carrie.
	I don't know how old a man he lived to be but I wouldn't be at all surprised.
	I remember when I was trying to get a hold of The one who controlled the copyright on those articles.
	I had occasion to speak with a man in the area in California and he said, be careful.
	It's like it's not accurate.
	Well, I knew it was accurate because Harry V. Martin mentioned about Rafsanjani, which is the second leader of of Iran after Khomeini died and so I knew that I was dealing with truth here so that's why I just said now I will go ahead and pursue this because I really felt with all my enormous good fortune
	that this was something that is totally true right well Rumor mill news.
	The woman who...
	She was married to this guy, Russ Spocker, who factors quite a bit in this research.
	I don't know how she would feel about some of it, whether she would agree or disagree with the role he appears to have played here.
	But it is...
	For those of you that are interested in that part of history, I am very interested in anything to do with Inslaw and the Promise software because...
	That is the beginnings of AI, our version of AI, and I'm convinced of that.
	And so it was stolen, Michael Ricconi-Shuto, creating the back door.
	He's been in prison forever.
	Yes, all the good ones who have been in prison, they really get them for putting out the truth.
	Right.
	It's not just over there.
	It's here, too.
	Sure.
	Absolutely.
	Because they're a threat.
	They're a threat.
	You definitely noticed them much, as they would say.
	Because I wanted to get the truth out.
	I was targeted with COINTELPRO by the FBI. I didn't realize that they targeted individuals until I listened to the tape of Democracy Now!
	where...
	It fit what happened to me to a key, Carrie, and I knew that that's why the man that wanted to marry me so much didn't marry me to love me and support me.
	He married me to destroy me financially.
	And I'm really lucky to be alive because the man that was the head of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, VVAW, he's dead now.
	Because he found out what was being done to him while his handler was still in his home, and he began to write a book about it, and she went to her handler or whatever, and that poor man is dead.
	So I'm very lucky to be alive now.
	Right.
	Now, you've done a lot of research around targeted individuals, isn't that right?
	Yeah, I did a whole edition to targeted individuals, 36th edition for them and have stories from people that one is in Zurich, Switzerland, several here in England, quite a few in America and one in China.
	Then, of course, before that I did individual stories.
	I did one in my ninth edition on a man in Arizona who knows about Ted Kennedy.
	Ted Kennedy didn't ever kill Mary Jo Kopechny.
	Also, I did Elvira.
	She's no longer with us now.
	She was in Florida.
	She'd been all over our country, but she ended up in Florida, which is Where family was of hers.
	She died earlier this year.
	Broke my heart.
	She really appreciated my work and she spread and she had a Facebook page too.
	So anytime I wanted anything posted on Facebook, I would ask her and she would immediately do it for me.
	Because I don't go on Facebook.
	I've got dirt on Facebook that I published and more that I haven't published.
	So, yeah, I have.
	Okay, well, if that's true...
	Because I was targeted, but not in the way that targeted individuals are targeted.
	Never had direct energy weapons or chemical weapons or microwave weapons or any of that kind of situation.
	Underwent that.
	So I'm really lucky there.
	Those people have and I really feel for them and I really felt that we could stop their torture if we all banded together and sent the demand page to the Speaker of the House.
	But people don't really understand a boycott from a publisher.
	I've never really achieved anything with that page in my edition.
	So the torture still goes on for the targeted individuals and the CIA is still actively in force and the FBI as well and all the other shadow government agencies that have been created To support the elite, you know, the powers that be, instead of decent people like you and all your listeners.
	Okay, now you mentioned Facebook.
	I have to say, you say you have information on Facebook.
	Are you following the latest, basically, indictment of Elon Musk?
	No, I haven't been following yet.
	Oh, you haven't?
	Okay, because I got some information.
	I put it out recently that the deals that Elon Musk had for rocketry were all given to Zuckerberg just recently.
	And that's a really interesting transition.
	Obviously, that begins to look as though Elon Musk is being targeted.
	At this time and because he might not have wanted to play ball with them the way they wanted him to.
	So it looks like Zuckerberg is next up to kind of be what is in essence a sort of a fake space program in which, you know, they're going off planet making deliveries and whatnot and so on.
	So it's interesting that Elon is currently under attack.
	Anyway, I just wondered if you'd followed any of that since you mentioned Facebook, but if not, then we won't go there.
	So we've been talking to you for a while, and I did promise you it's not going to go to two hours, I promise you that.
	Yeah, that's all right.
	It's really fascinating to talk to you.
	Now, I do have a chat room that's live along with this show, and I'm asking the people in the chat room if they have any questions for you.
	Oh, wonderful.
	So if you wouldn't mind answering a few of those before we let you go.
	I will answer whenever I can.
	I'd love to have questions.
	Okay, so obviously most of these people probably won't have...
	Your book just came out, isn't that right?
	Yeah, I actually took possession of it one month ago today.
	All right.
	So they may not, you know, obviously have read your book, but they may be familiar with your work.
	I think you're quite well known, at least in certain circles.
	So I'm wondering if...
	Well, someone's asking about the White Dragons, and this has to do with the...
	The triad and so on.
	Do you know anything?
	Did you ever kind of delve into that?
	Do they mean the white helmets?
	If they mean the white helmets, that's something that's pertaining to Syria.
	No.
	They're talking about the White Dragons.
	They're relating to China.
	I'm not familiar with the White Dragons.
	I'm so sorry.
	Maybe I should write that down.
	Look it up.
	Right.
	Well, it's a secret society having to do with the Triad and the Chinese and Oriental secret societies that are very instrumental in certain things behind the scenes.
	So, okay.
	That doesn't relate.
	Let's see.
	If there's anything here, I mean, if you can ask a question that pertains to our discussion, that would obviously be...
	Well, any question.
	You know, I've been so enormously blessed to meet people that have taught me things in a 10-year period from 83 to 93.
	It's mind-boggling.
	So any question that occurs that they might think I might know the answer to, I would...
	I would tell them if I don't know the answer, but you never know.
	I might.
	Okay, so just looking to see if there's any specific...
	Well, somebody is mentioning the AI Sophia in Saudi Arabia.
	Have you looked into Saudi Arabia much in your research?
	Yeah, I've got dirt on the Saudi royal family.
	They are Jews.
	They're not Muslims.
	Right.
	That makes sense.
	So that I've got in my e-zine.
	If people want to know if any particular thing is in my e-zine, there's an easy way to find out.
	You put the term in Google, and then you write the word and, not the ampersand, but the A-N-D, and then you put my website in quotes.
	So quote www.truedemocracy.net Close quote and then hit enter and anything I've got will pop up in Google.
	All right.
	So they can do that and get to write.
	Like I remember doing, I published about the library awareness program in my first edition and I remember it went straight to that article in my edition.
	That was some years ago, quite a few years ago in fact.
	I just did that as a test and it popped right up right at the beginning of that article.
	So people can do that and they'll get the link, you know, but it has to be the one that is the WWW True Democracy because sometimes others have taken over what I've published and they adopted it for themselves, which is all right, but you see my website farther down in the head.
	And set it at the top.
	So they need to look for what's right at the top in terms of my website in any given topic.
	Google has really indexed my e-zine really well.
	They've got names in there.
	If you're trying to find somebody's name and you put in my website in quotes, It will give you where that name is.
	Okay, now we've got a couple more questions, so if you don't mind, I'm going to move on quickly here.
	Someone wants to know if you know who is currently or what your theory is on who is currently running and controlling the UN. Oh, I don't know.
	The other one, the men died, but in terms of the UN, it shouldn't exist.
	It's New World Order only.
	It was created...
	And the land was donated by Rockefeller, on which it sits in New York, and it was only created to achieve the New World Order.
	Nothing else.
	There's no other reason for the UN to have been created.
	So it doesn't really matter who, that's it.
	The principle behind the UN is New World Order, period.
	Okay, now someone wants to know if you will ever reveal the dirt on Facebook or Zuckerberg that you have.
	Oh, I've got links.
	They just put in Facebook and www.truedemocracy.net and you'll get right to the links that I've got on Facebook in my work.
	One of them is from a supporter who I believe was in Washington State.
	And there's another one.
	There may be more than two.
	If somebody wants to send me email, just send me email at a at truedemocracy.net and just say Facebook links and I will send them not only what I published but the other stuff that I've saved on Facebook that I haven't published.
	I'll be delighted to send that to people.
	But I have published about Facebook.
	I've got at least two links on Facebook in my work.
	Okay, so someone's asking about Akhenazi Jews in Iran.
	Perhaps they mean Saudi Arabia as well.
	Do you know the background to the Jewish individuals?
	Are you saying they're Kazarian?
	What are you saying?
	Well, Ashkenazi, they're the ones that their king in 740 A.D. created Judaism or adopted Judaism as their religion.
	I forget why.
	I heard why he did it at that time, but that was 740 A.D., and that was in Kazaria, which I believe is modern-day Ukraine.
	I may be mistaken about...
	No, I think you're right about that.
	No, that's true.
	Am I right about that?
	Yeah, I've heard of that.
	Yeah, and those are the Ashkenazi Jews.
	They have no affiliation with the Holy Land at all.
	So when they say, oh, we want to return to our homeland, you can't return to a place that you never lived.
	You know, I could return to the United States because I lived there.
	Well, some would say that the Jews did that.
	I never lived there.
	Some would say that that's actually what...
	They just want people to think that that's their heritage.
	But that's not their heritage.
	They were a warlike community whose king adopted Judaism as their religion.
	They have nothing to do with...
	With the Jews that were in the Holy Land, there were some Jews, I think, I'm a little bit fuzzy on this, but it may have been the Shepardic Jews, but maybe not.
	Well, there's a link up with what we call the Anunnaki, certainly, and the Jews.
	That's a very strong link.
	And there's also a link with Iran, however, they do appear to be a different race of people.
	Now, someone is asking about the relationship between the Iranian sort of aristocracy, and I'm sort of paraphrasing this for them, and the Queen of England.
	And I do think, like you're saying, they go back to, they have a link up with the Germans.
	Correct?
	Yeah, and of course the Queen of England is a German.
	Right.
	I think that's quite well known.
	So that link should be maybe understood by people.
	So you see sort of a through line there.
	And that is interesting as well because...
	Some of the Germans are Celtics, but not all.
	And I'm not sure what the split there is all about.
	Well, if you believe some of the stuff that I, you know, I've lived in several countries in Europe.
	I was in Italy for a short few days.
	I was in Norway.
	I was in Sweden.
	I've been in Ireland for five months total.
	And here, and you can look at the people and you can see the similarity so that when you see someone...
	Like the other day, we were on a train and there was a girl sitting across from us and she looked to me to be Polish.
	So, like an idiot, I said to her, are you Polish?
	And she said, no, I'm from Brazil.
	Now, Brazil, of course, was a Portuguese colony, but she looked really Polish to me, but she certainly didn't look English.
	See, so I think the tribes came to the various areas.
	Now, I may be completely wrong about that, but Swedes tend to look like other Swedes and Germans tend to look like Germans and English tend to look like English.
	They don't, you know, you can sort of tell the differences.
	Yes.
	Except when you obviously have a mixture.
	You know, obviously there's what we call a mixture.
	There could be a mixture.
	Yeah, there has been intermarriage between, you know, the various ethnicities in Europe.
	So that may be why.
	Okay, now someone is asking about the Sabbateans.
	Do you have any information about that?
	I know the name Sabbatean, but I really don't know anything about Sabbateans.
	So I'm not going to hazard a guess at all because I don't want to give out wrong information.
	Okay, so maybe just do some research on the internet on that.
	Yeah.
	It says they were, I'm just looking at a definition, they were a variety of followers of disciples and believers in Sabbatai Zebai, a Jewish rabbi who proclaimed to be somebody.
	So it looks like a sect, what we would call a sect of Judaism.
	And this guy claimed to be the Jewish Messiah back in 1665.
	1665?
	I know they had one much more recently than that, but then he died.
	They were claiming that he was the Jewish Messiah, but then he died.
	I don't remember his name, but I thought, yeah, you really want to have a Messiah.
	I don't think that...
	That race of people really has a messiah, but that's just my opinion.
	That's not something, you know.
	Okay.
	Now, there is someone asking, do you know who was behind, let's see, I guess, I'm not sure how you say this name, and I don't think they necessarily spelled it right, but it was the younger son of the Shah who was suicided, they said.
	Do you know anything?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, let's see.
	Yeah, he was suicided.
	I have that in my book.
	Why?
	Do you know why?
	I guess they just didn't want anyone that was related to that family to be able to take hold of the country.
	You know, rule the country, although the Shah's son, Reza, he's alive still.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, yeah.
	All right.
	Well, you know, as I say, we've been going for a while.
	I don't want to go too long here.
	So I'm going to thank you so much for being here with me, Arlene.
	Thank you.
	It's lots of fun and very fascinating to talk to you.
	And I hope we can have you back on the show in the future.
	I would love that.
	So stay in touch and let me know what you're investigating and a topic that you think that we should cover and get back in touch with me and we'll try to do it.
	Yeah, I really wish, you know, they're really gunning for the American people.
	We've either got to expose it so that even people who are not political at all really realize the severity of the The situation in the United States or the people that are aware and are activists like all of your supporters listening are now.
	Leave.
	Get away from the country.
	I left because after 9-11 happened, which I knew was done by our government that day, because Bush said he wanted to create roadblocks.
	And I lived in Washington State in a peninsula.
	Outside of Gig Harbor, if any of your supporters know, you know, Gig Harbor, Tacoma.
	I lived in Lake Bay, Washington for about two and a half years.
	I left.
	I said, I'm not going through this.
	And I decided to leave and I did leave and I won't go back.
	And that's the way other people that are expatriates feel as well.
	I've got one in Philippines.
	I've got one in Spain.
	They won't go back.
	I hear you.
	Either we've got to expose it to other people who are not particularly political, so they cannot carry out their goal with all of you, or just get away.
	I can tell you more, but I will let you go now.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Well, with that...
	Thank you.
	Let me know any time you want to do anything.
	I'll be delighted to call you up.
	Or we can do it on Skype.
	That would work.
	It would be great.
	I'm sure people would like to see your face when you're talking.
	That would be nice too.
	It's always nice since we are a video channel.
	If you can't do it, you can't do it.
	The audio does work well.
	We could do it.
	We could.
	I didn't realize I would have spoken with John and set it up because he's got Skype.
	I don't, as I said in the beginning.
	All right, well, thank you so much for coming on the show.
	Thank you so much.
	All right, and you take care.
	Yeah, and you too, Carrie.
	Okay, bye-bye.
	Bye-bye.
	All right.
	So that is really, really fascinating.
	Everything she's investigated, there's a lot more.
	Obviously, she's got it in her sort of magazine on her website, which is, I think it's called truedemocracy.net, but it's linked on my website, projectcamelot.tv.
	Which is the easiest way to find my website on the front page.
	Now I just want to give a couple announcements.
	We have Miles Johnston and we've also got Michael Tellinger and they're going to be joining Maria Wheatley and myself in Egypt.
	So we've got a growing group of speakers that are coming along on the trip.
	That's going to make it a really fascinating trip, I have to say.
	And that's in April of 2019.
	It's all on my website under the events tab and you can register there.
	The deposit is due, you know, as soon as you can get it to us and that goes, you can send through to PayPal if you want or you can wire transfer it.
	Just contact me for the details.
	The main bulk of the money is not due until probably December to tell you the honest truth with that.
	So you have some leeway there.
	You do need to tell us which speaker you want to register under.
	Not sure if there's a blank on the form or not, but I'll have to, you know, email back and forth and get that information from anyone who decides to register.
	So keep that in mind.
	The other thing I want to say is that I just got back from interviewing Captain Mark Richards and, as always, fascinating.
	But what happened there was they decided to target me and my outfit.
	There's a way they can target a woman so she can't go into the prison.
	And then they make you get back on this bus and go and change your clothes.
	They've got these donated clothes that you can put on over your whatever you wear.
	And I had on a black long sleeve top.
	I was wearing black from head to toe.
	And I had a tank top under my outfit.
	And they were saying they could tell I had a tank top under my outfit.
	And even though I was wearing a coat, quite a thick coat, you know, that covered me from my...
	Head to my knees.
	Anyway, they targeted me.
	There were other women they didn't target.
	Their outfits were quite obvious.
	You're not allowed to wear form-fitting clothes.
	Stupid prison is really so antiquated and just really a very rigid, horrible system, obviously.
	Prisons in America and I'm sure in other countries as well.
	But What that did was it interrupted the time I was going to spend with him.
	And on top of that, they also shortened the time to shorter than usual.
	So I was already kind of under the gun there.
	But we did get a great discussion going, and I've got a lot of stuff.
	I'm trying to compile that right now.
	And get that out to you as soon as I can.
	So it should be maybe two or three days before I get it out there.
	So maybe Monday.
	Because today's Thursday.
	Late Thursday already.
	So that's what's happening with that.
	And thank you, those of you who contributed to that trip.
	Made it all possible.
	And, you know, it was great to see Joanne Richards, his wife.
	And there's things going on behind the scenes.
	And he is involved in...
	Some legal things to try to get his sentence commuted.
	And of course, many people will know there's a current attack going on towards him and some other developments that have happened.
	And apparently this guy who gave testimony to Kevin Moore, the journalist who is trying to do a sort of a hit piece on Mark, has now been granted parole.
	And this is obviously a thank you.
	By the authorities for doing what they're bidding to try to block Mark from getting out of prison.
	He's been in prison over 30 years.
	So if you imagined he had a crime that he committed, which he didn't, he certainly would have paid for it by now.
	But nonetheless, certain forces that be would like to see him discredited.
	And of course, for some reason, they're trying to wrap me into the bargain.
	So that's another problem.
	Sort of useless effort on their part, but nonetheless, that's what's going on.
	So just a heads up, if you think that things are just not happening, you know, happening just out of nowhere and people are good intentioned, it's important to know that certain things are telling what's really going on there.
	So that's a whole controversy.
	It's been a lot of fun to have Arlene Johnson on the show.
	I've admired her work for many, many years.
	Her book is chock full of all kinds of information.
	And when you want to put the political situation going on, At least from the earthly standpoint, into your analysis of understanding what is happening and what may happen in the future, very likely, and what the forces that are pushing and pulling in that area, it can be quite useful to have some of her good research.
	So highly recommend her book and her research in all areas.
	So there's a lot more going on.
	If anyone has back channel information about the whole Elon Musk Zuckerberg space program sort of dynamics and the attack on Elon as well and what's really going on there, feel free to contact me.
	At Carrie at projectcamelot.tv because I definitely think there's something up with all of that.
	And other than that, have a great weekend.
	And if I have a sudden show guest tomorrow, then I'll go live.
	But if not, you'll see me next week and hopefully also get the Mark Richards new interview information out there.
	So thanks again for watching and listening and for your support.
	Take care.

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