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July 20, 2018 - Project Camelot

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MICHAEL SHRIMPTON RE BREXIT & WORLD EVENTS

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	Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I am going to be talking to Michael Shrimpton
	And so very happy to have him here today.
	We're going to be talking about the situation with Brexit and the European Union.
	And also things related, let's say, in the world scene, etc.
	And anything else Michael might have to update us on.
	So it's really a pleasure to have Michael Shrimpton back on the show.
	He's an author and he writes a column for Veterans Today.
	And he has a current column on Veterans Today that I've also put into the chat so you can get the link there if you are interested in reading what he has to say as well as obviously hearing this interview.
	So, Michael, it's lovely to have you on the show and just for people, you don't use the camera for personal reasons, but welcome.
	Well, thank you, Kerry.
	It's lovely to be back and good afternoon.
	Welcome to all the viewers.
	I'm sorry you guys didn't see my face.
	I'm not sure seeing my face would necessarily add a great deal.
	It's not a particularly handsome face.
	Well, actually, I know you have a wonderful face.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	You have a wonderful face.
	So, on the contrary...
	Well, for security reasons, I don't do live TV from home, which is where I am at the moment, enjoying a glass of something old and alcoholic after a long...
	A long battle in Mark Daddy Court.
	Okay, so are you back doing your barrister duties, or is this your own case?
	Well, complicated.
	I'm still a barrister.
	The Bar Standards Board, trying to get me disbarred, brought disciplinary proceedings.
	In fact, they brought them in 2014, and I've been subject to interim suspension for four years.
	Three-day in London on the 19th of September when I will be battling that the tribunal has already ruled that I challenge the convictions so that I'm convicted the Bar Standards Board which regulates barristers say ah that's professional misconduct I say well no it isn't because I didn't actually commit an offense.
	The Bar Standards Board then said aha but you can't challenge Convictions before the disciplinary tribunal.
	It's in the rules.
	And I said, well, maybe in the rules, but the rules are ultra-virus.
	In other words, illegal.
	In other words, made without any statutory authority.
	Contrary to law, there's a famous case called Hollington and Hawthorne, which established that you can't rely on a criminal conviction in subsequent proceedings.
	And although it can be excluded by statute, it's not excluded for barristers.
	So the disability tribunal ruled in my favor and said, yes, I can mount a collateral challenge.
	So I am mounting a full-scale collateral challenge to the convictions, and I'm needing expert evidence on the issue of the indecent images, where we can now show that the memory stick was swapped and the hard drive was swapped.
	Right, so in other words...
	It should be an entertaining three days.
	Okay, so is this scheduled for soon?
	Yeah, scheduled for, sorry, it's one of the words that's pronounced differently on both sides of the Atlantic.
	Right.
	It is scheduled, to use the American pronunciation, for September 19th.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Now, you are dropping off from time to time, so I just want the viewers to know that once in a while we are having a bit of interference.
	Obviously, the intelligence agencies are going to be monitoring this conversation and interfering when they don't like what you have to say.
	Well, that's possible.
	It may be a Skype issue, but I don't think so.
	We seem to have a reasonably strong Skype connection, so...
	Yes.
	No, it's not unknown.
	I did a TV interview not so long ago for a nice man called Miles of the Basis Project, who you know.
	Right.
	And the entire interview was canned.
	I couldn't get it out live at all.
	And it was obvious that somebody was interfering with it.
	Incredible.
	Well, the last thing they want is two kind of...
	Old boys from the network to be out speaking, you know, about what they know, what's going on, and the two of you...
	The Germans have the most interesting gaggingly.
	The British and American agencies are, on the whole, the good guys, obviously penetrated by the DVD. So they act in very strange and illegal and anti-Western ways, such as manufacturing fake...
	Indictments for Russian intelligence officers, which the CIA and the FBI have just been doing, and the Department of Justice.
	But the big problem is a German electronics company, which runs an eavesdropping centre in London, and they monitor all my communications, and sometimes interfere with them.
	Right.
	Well, okay.
	People can't credit it.
	The only time...
	Well, the interview for the Basis project was obvious interference.
	We just couldn't get it out live at all.
	But sometimes people send me emails and I'm on the phone and they say they've just sent me documents or what have you.
	I'm afraid it may take another 10 minutes or maybe even three hours for it to arrive because it may be intercepted in London.
	It may have to go down to Munich.
	It may have to be cleared by a DVD intelligence officer.
	People don't believe it unless they're talking to me and they send me an email and it doesn't arrive.
	My emails are not always instantaneous.
	I hear you.
	Well, I have the same problem, actually, and all kinds of things go on.
	An email might pop up three hours after it's sent.
	Or not at all.
	Or not at all.
	I never know when people are going to get my emails.
	I've had some very strange things go on.
	But at any rate, I think you were referring to the so-called arrest of the Russian officers.
	Is that right?
	Yes, I was.
	Yeah, fake indictments.
	Absolutely absurd.
	We know that the DNC was an intern.
	Downloads were an internal job, almost certainly by someone connected to the Democratic Party.
	I've seen various names of IT experts that were consulting for the Democrats.
	It was probably one of their IT people, but it was an internal job.
	It wasn't a hack.
	Now, how do we know this?
	Because the amount of data and the time rule out It just wasn't physically possible, it still isn't physically possible, to have downloaded the amount of data in the amount of time available and also date timestamps show that the download was unquestionably done on the East Coast of the United States.
	It was done in the same time zone as the As the equipment that was being, you know, it was basically done in the eastern time zone.
	It could not have been hacked, period.
	There could have been no question of the data being hacked, because the download speeds, the hacking simply wouldn't have been able to, you wouldn't have been able to achieve the speed.
	And it was clearly done in the Eastern Time Zone.
	So it was done in the United States in the Eastern Time Zone.
	And there is absolutely no credible evidence that any single Russian intelligence officer was involved.
	Right.
	Now, when you say they're fake indictments or whatever, how are they kind of getting this off the ground?
	Well, Mueller is political.
	As you know, he is a former director of the FBI. Right.
	And Judge Bill Webster.
	Now, I like Bill Webster.
	He was put in to clean up the FBI and then was put into CIA to clean up the CIA. Now, Judge Bill Webster is a man of great integrity.
	He once invited me to a working breakfast at his club in Washington.
	It was very entertaining because I was having a working breakfast with the former director of the CIA and another director of the CIA at my acquaintance, Jim Woolsey, walked in and Jim didn't know I knew Judge Webster and Judge Webster didn't know I knew Jim.
	So they were both a little bit surprised to see Michael sitting down with Bill.
	Jim walks in.
	And of course I wave in.
	Oh, there's Woolsey.
	Hi, Jim.
	How are you?
	And Jim had a former secretary of the army who he was entertaining to breakfast because Jim had to be a member of the same club.
	So Jim wanted over and said, hi, I didn't know you knew Bill.
	And it was very convivial.
	It's the only time in my life I've ever been entertained by one director of the CIA and had another director of the CIA walk in and come over and say hi.
	Right.
	Of course, the Thames Valley Police say I have nothing to do with the world of intelligence.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm just having a working breakfast with a former director of the CIA and another former director of the CIA has walked in and come across and said hi and introduced me to a former secretary of the army in a club in Washington.
	Like, Barristers do this all the time.
	Apart from Bill Webster, it was a man of integrity, and I like Bill Webster.
	Directors of the FBI basically all report to the Korea Group, which operates out of Frankfurt, or they know about the Korea Group and they don't do anything about it.
	They know full well that German intelligence was not shut down in 1945.
	Obviously, you get the occasional director who's a useful idiot who doesn't really know the way the world works and doesn't know much about anything.
	But anyone, any of the FBI directors with a brain, and Muller has a brain, he's not completely stupid.
	It sounds odd because he was a director of the FBI, but he's not completely stupid.
	Muller almost certainly knows about Korea Group.
	He almost certainly knows what he's doing.
	And he is on a political witch hunt.
	And the president is right.
	It's a witch hunt.
	There was no hacking, period.
	Russian intelligence did not hack the DNC. Nobody hacked the DNC. They couldn't have done.
	And Russia did not interfere in the 2016 presidential election.
	This is a combination of sour grapes and an anti-Trump smear.
	Right.
	I completely agree with that.
	And I'm glad you have that point of view because you are in a position to kind of know and be able to read this sort of signals they're putting out there.
	But I guess I'm kind of interested to ask you about these 13 Russians.
	How are they manufacturing a case out of nothing?
	Well, that's easy.
	They've got a tame grand jury.
	They don't need, what you say, manufacturing a case.
	I'm not sure they've got any case at all.
	The indictments were bought in order to try and get the president to cancel the summit in Helsinki with President Putin.
	Now, Mueller is anti-Russian, he's pro-German, and he's anti-American.
	Mueller either reports to the Korea Group in Frankfurt or is aware of them and keeps quiet about them.
	Muller is anti-Trump.
	Muller wanted the summit to be cancelled.
	Is Muller, or Muller as you're calling him, is this a German name?
	It is.
	Interestingly, he shares it with a former director of the Gestapo.
	But I don't think Muller, I don't think this Muller and Heinrich Muller, who faked his death in 1945, just a One of the difficulties with interviews where I've been interviewed before is I make the mistake of assuming all the listeners are up to speed with what I've said before.
	So there may be new listeners.
	So for those who know my view and know the facts, just bear with me for 30 seconds while I explain to the listeners who may not have heard me before.
	German intelligence is not shut down in 1945.
	Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, the head of German intelligence, the Abwehr, fakes his death Heinrich Muller, the head of the Gestapo, also fakes his death.
	Heinrich's coffin is dug up about 15 years later and there are bits of three bodies in it.
	As you know, Kerry, whenever an intelligence chief is said to have died and you dig up his coffin and there are bits of three bodies in it, you know that none of the bodies will be that of the intelligence chief.
	It never happens.
	Plenty of dead bodies.
	I mean, this was the Gestapo.
	Their ethics were worse than the FBI. If they needed three dead people, they just went out and shot them.
	But in practice, there were plenty of bodies in Germany in 1945.
	Getting hold of three bodies wasn't difficult.
	And if you wanted to fill a coffin with a few bodies, you just chuck them in.
	Not difficult at all.
	The Gestapo didn't go in for Christian burials.
	I didn't think the Gestapo even had a chaplain.
	That sort of organization.
	Muller fakes his death.
	Canaris fakes his death.
	The new agency had been set up in 1943 when Canaris failed to secure a separate peace through the Dulles brothers who were his agents in Bern, Switzerland.
	The Dulles brothers failed to carve up a separate peace.
	Canaris realizes Germany is going to lose and he sets up this new agency, the Deutsche Vertei der Gungsdienst, which is headquartered in Dachau near Munich.
	Now, they controlled American intelligence up until Their man Dulles is sacked by John F. Kennedy and then they arranged to assassinate Kennedy in the hope of getting Dulles back into control of the CIA. Control of the CIA was so important for the Germans that they were willing to assassinate JFK and do it in a very clumsy way, leaving a trail of clues.
	Obviously they tried to set up a man named Lee Harvey Oswald, as many of your viewers and listeners will know, that the case against Oswald was as silly as the case against these 12 Russians.
	It's a It was a farcical smear.
	That had nothing to do with it.
	After they assassinate Kennedy, the Germans carry on interfering with US politics, interfering with US intelligence agencies, and most of this interference is organized out of Frankfurt.
	The headquarters is In a building near Frankfurt, well, it's on the territory of Frankfurt Airport.
	And this is the career group.
	It's part of the DVD. And the career group largely controls the CIA and the FBI. Now, Muller is on the career group.
	Now, okay, when you call them the career group, some people may get a little confused.
	So if you can explain that a bit, the relationship between what you're calling the career group, is this the leadership of the DVD, what you call the DVD? Well, the DVD is the German intelligence agency.
	The career group is a directorate, if you like, or a part of the DVD. DVD headquartered in Dachau.
	They have other offices as well.
	They've taken over an ex-Nufthwafer airfield north of Munich.
	They've got about 10,000 people there.
	I mean, you know, this is picked up on satellite.
	The American intelligence community now know about these projects.
	Bases and officers, mainly because I've told them.
	And they've then moved birds and found, oh, yeah, that's interesting.
	There is an intelligence headquarters right where Michael said it would be.
	But you are also good at pointing out the members of the British, I don't know, top tier that are part of or reporting to as well.
	Well, I'm a spy hunter.
	I'm good at spotting enemy spies like Edward Heath and Roy Jenkins.
	I'm not saying Jenkins was spotted in 1944 when he penetrated Bletchley Park.
	He was spotted by an old friend of mine who's sadly now dead, a lovely man called...
	Harry Beckhoff, who was a lieutenant colonel, since we're on an American show.
	Lieutenant Colonel Beckhoff was a British intelligence officer in World War II. He was at Pletchley Park.
	He was a security officer at Pletchley Park.
	He took the transcripts of the communications in Rommel and German headquarters.
	So our community partner, Erwin Rommel in North Africa, is communicating with German headquarters.
	We are intercepting those communications at Plexiglas Park.
	We are reading the Enigma decrypts, or we're decrypting the Enigma transmissions from Rommel to OKW and OKH. For listeners who are not familiar with the structures of Nazi Germany, OKW was the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht, which was the German equivalent of the Pentagon.
	Probably did Better tea and coffee.
	And the OKH was the Oberkommando de Heer.
	The Oberkommando de Heer was effectively the German army's general staff.
	So it was German army headquarters.
	Wehrmacht technically was all three services combined.
	I know people call the army the Wehrmacht.
	Technically it's the Heer.
	So Rommel was communicating via Enigma with OKH and OKW in Berlin and Bletchley Park intercepting some of those communications and Harry was the man who took the transcripts and the decrypts over to General Montgomery and played a major part in winning the Battle of El Alamein, or the Second Battle of El Alamein.
	Harry was a very major player and he spotted Roy Jenkins in 1944.
	Roy Jenkins, who later became a Labour politician, pro-EEC, which fits in with our theme very nicely because Jenkins plays a key role in getting Britain into the EEC. Jenkins, who sabotaged Labour's 1970 election campaign with a deflationary budget in order to get Ted Heath in.
	Jenkins penetrates Bletchley Park.
	He's installed in Bletchley Park by another German spy called Stuart Minges, who's the head of MI6. And Jenkins is sending stuff to Germany about what's happening in Bletchley Park.
	And it's partly thanks to Jenkins that the German Navy became aware that we were reading U-boat traffic and they put a fourth rotor on their Enigma machines and the U-boat sinkings in the North Atlantic shot up because we could no longer read their traffic.
	Jenkins is spotted by Harry.
	Weren't able, because Minges was a German spy, because the cabinet secretary Edward Bridges was a German spy, they couldn't prosecute Jenkins, they couldn't, their room for manoeuvre was very, very limited, so they moved him from Hut 8 to Hut 6, or Hut 6 to Hut 8, but they moved him to a less important hut, and then they kept an eye on him, and of course they used him to feed false intelligence back to the Germans.
	And this is quite common in the intelligence world.
	You spot an enemy spy.
	Sometimes you prosecute them.
	Sometimes you shoot them or hang them.
	Sometimes you just let them in place and you feed them false intel.
	And it could work.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, so I know you're trying to bring us up to date, so maybe we could skip over a bit of history there.
	Yeah, let's skip the last 40 years.
	Let's come up to 2018.
	Because we have covered some of it in our previous interviews, and there are several actually, as well as one that I've done in person, that I highly recommend.
	So I do want to say that There are infiltrators at this time, both in the American side of things as well as in the British.
	And my understanding of the way you operate is you don't name names at this time that are whoever's currently involved.
	Is that right?
	Well, that's right.
	I'm gagged by the British laws of libel.
	Now, I could name them if I was an American in America.
	I could name them.
	But if they were prominent, because American libel law is Famous freedom of speech.
	We don't have freedom of speech in Britain in the same way as you do in America.
	We have a limited amount of freedom of speech.
	But the judges are very opposed to freedom of speech.
	And in practice, you can't name a living German spy.
	It doesn't matter if it's true or not.
	It's a fundamental misunderstanding about the world of intelligence that raw data is handed out along with intelligence.
	It never is.
	Once in a blue moon, yes, but 99 times out of 100, 999 times out of 1000, you get the product, you don't get the raw data.
	Now, this can pose a problem because if you make a statement which is true based on verified intelligence data, If you don't have the data, you can't pack the statement up.
	So if I were to name X as a German spy, I know, for example, the name of the top German agent in Britain.
	All I can say is he's a man, and I'll just describe him as a Sierra.
	That's the first letter of his surname.
	Now, that's as far as I can go within the law.
	I'm aware that Sierra is blackmailing a key official, two key officials in the Cabinet Office report to Sierra, And I'm aware of their identity.
	It's one of the reasons why the cabinet office ordered me to be prosecuted in 2014.
	I know too much about German intelligence penetration of the cabinet office.
	But I can't name, although I know the name of the top German agent in Britain and I know the names of the top German assets in the cabinet office, I can't name them on a public radio broadcast or TV broadcast because then I'd be sued for libel and of course the raw data is with GCHQ and NSA and I won't have access to it, so I'd be able to live.
	Okay, now I'm putting your book, Spy Hunter, on the screen here for people to see.
	He has written a very wonderful book, and I do recommend it.
	Is your book still available for people to buy?
	It is.
	I got an extraordinary email from somebody the other day.
	Apparently, somebody sent me an email.
	I don't know if it's true or not, but it sounded true.
	Somebody was selling a copy for $5,000.
	Oh my god.
	I don't know.
	I was godsmaring.
	It was either five or several thousand dollars.
	I get massive emails every day and I don't read all of them obviously.
	Some of them are junk and some are for information only and I don't always reply to my emails because I just don't have the time.
	Reassure this man that he can obtain the book from June Press in England.
	Apparently, black market copies are going for ludicrous sums of money.
	The book is still in print.
	It's never been out of print.
	It's not a big seller.
	It's an intelligence text.
	Because it's a bulky intelligence text, it weighs over two pounds.
	It costs about $25 to post it to America, so it's not a cheap exercise if you're in America to buy the book.
	There's nothing I can do about that, I'm afraid.
	It's a heavy book because there's a lot of heavy material in it.
	It's a serious intelligence text.
	Well, isn't it available on Kindle?
	Ah, ha, ha, ha.
	Yeah, it was.
	And we found the publishers, and I'm not criticizing the publishers, I think actually the publishers were right.
	Kindle turned out to be a real nuisance.
	I thought, I'd always hoped that an American publisher would do an American print run, but we never found an American publisher.
	I was hoping that Infowars might sell it through their shop and do a print run.
	But Infowars wouldn't return my calls.
	For some reason, Alex Jones and I are in a feud.
	I don't know why.
	Apparently he's annoyed at me for some reason.
	He's never told me what the reason is.
	He and I no longer talk to each other.
	He no longer invites me onto Infowars.
	I approached Alex and tried for some time to try and persuade the boys down in Austin to You know, set up a US distribution network, in effect.
	I've talked to several other American publishers.
	Nobody's ever had the guts to go ahead and get the book printed in America.
	I don't have the resources.
	I'm not earning a huge amount of money.
	I do not have the resources to go and do it myself.
	I need an American publisher or an American print company to print the book And then we need to organize distribution of it in the States.
	That would then cut down the cost of it.
	But it's never been possible.
	The only publishers are in England.
	There is only one edition.
	It's published by June Press in England.
	There is no separate American edition, which I had hoped we might be able to do.
	And that means if you want the copy, it's got to be posted.
	And that drives the cost up.
	I can't.
	There's nothing I can do about that.
	Right.
	Well, maybe somebody listening...
	There's nothing I can do about that with the resources that I have.
	Right, but maybe somebody listening could, you know, pick up on this and try to help you out.
	One of the reasons why I made the point, yes, I'm hoping somebody out there will say, ah, gee, let's get this book distributed in America.
	Ideally, I'd like an American...
	I'm quite happy to re-edit the book for the American market and convert it into American spellings.
	In fact...
	One of the reasons it was delayed in publication, the first drafts were available in 2012.
	It was originally going to be published in America.
	The first intended publisher was the United States Naval Institute and they published a book by a friend of a friend called Tom Clancy.
	Many of your viewers will know Tom.
	Poor Tom was murdered.
	That was tragic.
	He may even have been murdered to stop him talking to me because we were due to meet He was murdered in 2013.
	I would have been invited to the US Naval Institute conference at the Naval History Conference at Annapolis.
	Tom lived near Baltimore, from memory, and his first publisher, The Hunt for Red October, was published by the United States Naval Institute.
	And Tom There was a theory going around the Intelligence Committee that Tom and I would go to meet when I flew into Annapolis for this meeting.
	Hello?
	Can you hear me?
	Yeah, you just got cut off.
	There was a theory that Tom and I were going to end up in a bar on the East Shore somewhere and somebody...
	There was in fact no arrangement.
	I'd never met Tom Clancy.
	We had Arrangements whereby I could feed stuff through to him and he fed stuff back to me and those arrangements were run via a condo in the Greenbrier Hotel in Virginia, which is a very nice part of the world.
	So there was a slightly complicated, slightly convoluted chain between Tom Clancy and myself.
	Tom was...
	You know, that's funny.
	I actually thought he was murdered, so it's very interesting to hear you say so.
	Yeah, no, he was murdered.
	I was very upset.
	Well, I'm not as upset as he was, because he was the poor guy who was murdered.
	I've survived a murder attempt myself.
	I know they can be very upsetting, particularly if they're successful.
	He was definitely murdered, and I don't think it's a coincidence that he was murdered the night before I flew into Baltimore.
	That was a very significant trip.
	I actually wasn't meeting Tom Clancy.
	There was no meeting arranged.
	I don't even know if Tom knew that I was coming.
	We were both members of the US Naval Institute at the time.
	He wasn't actually scheduled to use the American pronunciation.
	He wasn't scheduled.
	He wasn't a speaker at the Naval History Conference.
	And my main purpose in going, apart from meeting a wonderful man who flew a space mission called Apollo 13 that many of your viewers will have heard of, And I was due to meet, I wanted to meet the commander of the Apollo 13 mission, a very, very fine man and a very brave man too.
	And he was a speaker and I did, in fact, introduce him.
	We were introduced and he was good enough to sign a book for me, which was kind of him.
	And I met, I wanted to meet General Tom Stafford, another hero of mine, who was a very fine astronaut.
	And there are a bunch of boys from NASA, and I had a little bit of business with NASA about sabotage space shuttles and so on.
	So there's a little bit of side work at the conference, as there usually is.
	But my main purpose in game is to be given an intelligence briefing on the recovery of the Vulcan 1 warhead, which was recovered by the U.S. Navy near the Camaras Islands in the southern Indian Ocean.
	It was being transported on a German submarine, which had refueled at the German covert Iranian subbase in the Camaras Islands.
	The U.S. Navy sank it.
	Up until that conference, I thought that the American Navy had sunk, I know it was a Los Angeles-class SSN, and I thought it would whack the German SSK, it was a Type 21 U-boat, in deep water.
	In fact, I was told at the conference, no, we decided to recover the warhead, so we sank the SSK in shallow water, and we got the warhead.
	That was the first time I was told that you guys had retrieved The warhead about which I had warned.
	Now, that was big news for me because it meant that the National Nuclear Security Administration had got hold of the warhead and had dismantled it.
	And we were able to establish, they had established the yield, which was, from memory, 20 kilotons.
	That was important intelligence.
	And once I knew that the warhead had ended up at NSA, I was able to Check out the intelligence and do a bit of verification and put out a few feelers and word came back.
	Yeah, we got the word.
	Yes, we dismantled it.
	Yes, it was viable.
	And the yield was about 20 KT, which, by the way, was a lot lower than the yield that I was given.
	I was given a yield figure of up to 500 KT. I never thought 500 was Realistic.
	Okay, now I need to stop you because I don't know which warhead you're referring to.
	Is this the one you...
	Oh, I was arrested.
	This is sorry.
	Yes, this is the...
	Okay, this is...
	This is the Russian intelligence, Major General Igor Sergan, GRU, tells me through cutouts, multiple cutouts, one in Belgrade, one in Tokyo, Ben Fulford in Tokyo, a man named Neil Jones in Folkestone, who I used to work with, a computer scientist, Who had access to the dark web, not improper access.
	He was involved with a group of computer scientists who were getting some really high-grade intelligence off the dark web because Al-Qaeda were using the dark web.
	Neil was a good guy and he was working with good guys and I didn't know the ins and outs of it.
	I just got the product and I passed the product on and some of the product was Not any high-grade intelligence, it was actionable intelligence, and at one point we were able to head off an assassination attempt by the DVD on George W. Bush,
	and I got the intelligence on a Friday night, and I was talking to the Secret Service at their intelligence centre in Arlington within a matter of minutes, and the attempt on George W. Bush's life went down that weekend, and The attempt failed because the Secret Service had been warned and were able to increase his protection.
	That was the event where he turned up covered in scratches and bruises and it was said he'd fallen off a bike.
	He doesn't ride bikes, he was the President of the United States.
	He was a child.
	The President of the United States don't normally run around riding bikes.
	He had scratches and bruises because somebody was about to kill him, a sniper, and he was thrown to the ground by his Secret Service detail who had been warned that an attempt was likely on his life that weekend.
	Okay.
	This is credible.
	The intelligence comes to me from a man who provided hard intelligence in the past.
	It was actionable.
	And it was coming from Ben Fulford who was a serious figure in Tokyo and Ben was talking to a guy in Belgrade and the guy in Belgrade was talking to the boys in Moscow.
	The warhead that I am warned about is the warhead the Germans had infiltrated near the Olympic Stadium.
	It was about half a mile from the Olympic Stadium.
	It was going to be detonated.
	It was being controlled or at least stored in a Serbian safe house.
	The Serbs are very upset over Kosovo and what happened in the Balkans in the 1990s, and there are a bunch of renegade Serbs who were quite happy to blow up a bit of London and make a facility available in East London that they normally used for importing drugs into the UK. So this warhead is there.
	I warned the Ministry of Defence and said, look, I think there might be a warhead here, single source only, but let's check it out.
	I think this is a serious warning.
	I want an E3 Sentry airplane overhead.
	Early hours in the morning, don't want to cause a panic.
	Let's do a quiet run with a sentry with the new radiation kit I've been told about by a former chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, which is then on the secret list.
	I said, I want to run three o'clock, four o'clock in the morning.
	Nobody will know it's happening.
	Let's see if we can locate this warhead.
	Is it there?
	What do you do with intelligence?
	You verify it.
	That is The warhead that led to the prosecution of me after the Ministry of Defence wiped the recording of my briefing and destroyed their contemporaneous note.
	I should explain to your listeners, the National Security Agency intercepted that note and it's now in the hands of MI5, which is one of the reasons why I'm looking forward to clearing my name.
	Oh, my God.
	And I really, more power to you.
	I think you did a good job there of sort of a summation of the charges against you.
	I'm not taking the whole credit.
	I don't take it.
	Well, it's conceited to take credit for things you haven't done, and it's not my style.
	I've never done it, no intention of ever doing it.
	Technically boring, waste of everybody's time, waste of my time, waste of other people's time.
	I'm not taking the sole credit for passing on the warning.
	There were other people involved.
	Neil Jones did the right thing by passing it on.
	Ben Fulford did the right thing.
	Ben Sors, codenamed Romanov, and this is out in the public domain.
	Ben Sors, codenamed Romanov, also codenamed Sorge, did the right thing in Belgrade.
	And Major General Igor Sergan did absolutely the right thing by warning us.
	He was also looking after Russia's interest.
	Why not?
	He was the head of Russian military intelligence.
	He's been paid by the Russian government.
	He's there to look after Russia's interest first and foremost.
	Wait, wait.
	Who is this?
	Who is this that's head of the Russian...
	This is the guy who generated the Vulcan intelligence.
	The guy who warned He warned Britain through me.
	You know, it's absolutely amazing that you're basically a hero for all intents and purposes, right?
	Well, it's fine for me to say so.
	Yeah, I think I'm a bit of a hero.
	I think we saved a thousand lives.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, and this is what the British do to you.
	It's just extraordinary, really.
	I mean, it's just, you know, this sort of game that we're all a part of, just really, you can't make this stuff up.
	You can't even imagine it.
	If you're on a new cunt, I mean, one of the things I used to do was new cunts.
	I'm pretty good at new cunts, even if I say so myself, and you know how modest I am.
	But if you're on a new cunt, and it's a successful new cunt, the nuke is actually there.
	And you stop the nuke.
	You make sure the nuke is liberated.
	In this case, it was liberated.
	The Germans moved it, but you guys eventually caught up with it in the southern Indian Ocean.
	A successful retrieval of a 20 kiloton nuclear warhead, which has been inserted into a major city, is a big thing.
	20 kilotons in East London was going to kill the Queen, kill the Prince Philip, Prince Charles, the Duchess of Cornwall, Prince Harry.
	Every key member of the royal family was Funnelled into the Olympic opening ceremony precisely in order to murder them and cause a dynastic change in Britain.
	The casualties would have been 100,000 at the lower end of the scale.
	I mean, you're talking nearly 100,000 people in the stadium and the stadium would have been toast.
	Literally, you know, the ground zero was within half a mile of the stadium.
	Well, 20 KT, the ground zero half a mile away, half a mile's We're talking 800 yards.
	A 20-keleton nuke going off less than a thousand yards away, oh boy, that's the stadium gone.
	And you're talking blast and fire effects, never mind the long-term radiation effects, but you're talking blast and fire effects that are going to kill a minimum of 100,000 people, probably 150,000.
	Right.
	In fact, there were two warheads.
	I don't know if Igor knew about the second warhead.
	We only found out about the second warhead later.
	I think the second warhead was in fact tracked via satellite because of its radiation emissions.
	It was picked up by this very important new kit that had only just come into service, the muon scattering tomography radiation detection device.
	Well, devices, plural.
	There are various types of MST kit, but they can be mounted on aircraft.
	They can be mounted on satellites.
	I think you guys picked up the second radiation source.
	Somebody said, aha, hello, we've got some weapons-grade plute.
	We've picked up one more head, but we've got some weapons-grade plute that shouldn't be there.
	It was in the Westfield Shopping Centre, where I was, in fact, today.
	If only today I was walking through this Westfield City area, Shopping Centre, which is a big shopping mall by the standards of Britain.
	It's really big.
	I mean, it's not big by the standards of Texas.
	In Dallas, you'd call it a corner store, but it would certainly be big by the standards of, you know, Terre Haute, Indiana.
	It's a fairly big shopping mall, and I'm looking at these happy people out shopping.
	It was very crowded.
	It was very busy Friday afternoon.
	I'm off to pick up some papers because the lawyers run up because there's a panic and can I go and pick up some papers for a case on Monday morning?
	Yes, I can.
	And I'm looking at all these people thinking, gee, if these people have been shopping back in 2012, they'd have been dead.
	This whole place would have gone up in smoke.
	You're talking tens of thousands of people Exactly.
	And you spent...
	You're talking, again, a minimum of 100,000, 100,000, 150,000 people.
	And I didn't even get a shopping voucher out of it.
	These guys are running a shopping centre.
	Their security is so lousy that they let somebody insert a nuclear warhead into a pillar whilst it was concreted into a pillar whilst the shopping centre was being built.
	Olympic security just let this shopping centre go up within blast range of the Olympic Stadium and didn't bother...
	These Muppets, all their security, they're concentrating on searching people's bags.
	Their idea of security is we don't want people bringing in a knife or a gun.
	Their idea of security was to search bags.
	It didn't occur to them that if a shopping center was being built and you had a big construction site within about half a mile of the stadium, That that would be an ideal place to insert a nuclear warhead.
	They just weren't thinking nuclear at all.
	They weren't thinking big.
	They were thinking small because they were tiny-minded people who had no idea what they were doing.
	And I look around and I say, well, I helped save this shopping centre.
	Well, that's pretty good going.
	Absolutely.
	I don't even get a £10 voucher to go and spend in Primark.
	Well, on top of it, for your trouble, you were...
	I get banged up in prison for my pain.
	Yeah, and how long were you in prison, Michael?
	I was in prison six months.
	Admittedly, I was classified as an open prisoner, but the classification process takes about seven or eight weeks, or took it seven or eight weeks in my case.
	People have this theory, if you're middle class and you're a barrister or a solicitor or an accountant or a judge, you know, if you're being banged up in prison in your middle class, you get an open prison.
	Well, you do, but you don't get it straight away.
	You have to be classified.
	Open prisoners in Britain, you have to be category D. There's A, B, C, D, and five categories.
	So the lowest category is D. So I'm classified D, but it took seven weeks.
	And in that time, you're in general population.
	I was in a Category B prison, Wandsworth.
	It was the local prison for Southwark.
	It was basically a Category B. And I'm in basically Category B accommodation with Category B prisoners.
	You know, I'm sharing prison accommodation with lifers, with people who are in for very long sentences.
	I was on the rule, which is Rule 35.
	Because of my security work, I was potentially at risk from Islamic radicals.
	So I was segregated from the general population, but I'm still housed in a Category B prison with people who've committed serious offences.
	And there were some very nice people.
	There was quite a nice Radio 1 disc jockey that had been done for years.
	Interfering with small boys many, many years, you know, one of these historic sex offensives.
	He's quite a pleasant sex offender, if I may say so.
	And we had Gary Glitter at Wandsworth at one point.
	He wasn't in my block, but he was certainly in the same prison.
	I suggested we allow him, you know, we ought to get him to do the entertainments for a weekend.
	The prison officers didn't take that forward.
	Okay, now, Michael, sorry to interrupt you.
	We had a disc jockey down on...
	We had a disc jockey down on the ground floor and we had Gary Glitter in the next wing.
	I thought, hey, well, why not have a concert Saturday night?
	We've got disc jockey, we've got Gary Glitter.
	Right.
	You had all the ingredients.
	Let's have a morale-boosting concert.
	We can have it in the chapel.
	But what I want to do, you know, our main objective here is to get your take on the whole Brexit sort of debacle and the situation with Theresa May.
	And I'm very interested in your take on Boris Johnston is his name.
	Do I have that right?
	Boris Johnson without the T. Johnson.
	Okay, yeah.
	And whether his resigning was so that he can run against her in an up I think that was the plan.
	I think Boris undoubtedly has leadership ambitions, but bear in mind that Boris did not run against Theresa May in 2016 when Cameron resigned.
	Boris did not run.
	Right.
	It is not guaranteed that he will run again.
	His resignation was certainly the cue for a move against Theresa May.
	She's sidelined that move by basically having Parliament go off five days early for its summer recess.
	So she probably has kept her job as Prime Minister for the next couple of months.
	It looked as though she was about to be tossed out.
	She did a deal, made some concessions, basically gave up the Chequers plan, which had triggered the Boris resignation.
	So there's a crazy plan at Chequers.
	Perhaps I should wind back a little bit for some viewers and listeners who haven't been following it closely.
	The Cabinet Office set up a Europe office inside the Cabinet Office.
	Which is negotiating separately with the European Union and undermining the Department for Exiting the European Union.
	So there's a Minister of the Crown, David Davis, responsible for negotiations with the EU. In fact, his negotiations are a farce.
	The real negotiations are conducted by a man nicknamed Oily Robbins.
	His first name is Olly.
	Everybody's calling him Oily.
	Oily Robbins is a civil servant.
	He's conducting the real negotiations behind the back of his ministers.
	He's operating out of Downing Street, close to the Cabinet Office, who operate next door to Downing Street in Whitehall.
	Okay, well, can I stop you there and just ask you, if you say he's operating out of Downing Street, are you alluding to the fact that he's intelligence?
	He's a member of the intelligence community.
	Well, no, he isn't.
	He's a diplomat.
	Okay.
	Why is such a low level...
	That's a good question.
	Where does a diplomat start and where does a diplomat stop and an intelligence officer begin?
	Lots of diplomats are spies.
	Right.
	A diplomat is someone sent abroad to spy for his country and lie for his country as well.
	They spy for their country as well as lie in most cases.
	Oily...
	No offence intended.
	Oily is a career diplomat who is working with the Cabinet Office.
	Now, he and the Cabinet Secretary undermine David Davis.
	They work in secret on a plan to sign the UK up to what's called an association agreement with the EU. This is basically subjecting the Yes, it's sabotaging.
	The cabinet secretary wants to sabotage Brexit.
	Oily is opposed to Brexit.
	So Oily is opposed to the Foreign Office and the Cabinet Office.
	Oily is in bed with the cabinet secretary.
	They're all doing this with the knowledge of Theresa May.
	Theresa May had intended to sack David Davis and replace him with a not very nice person, no offence intended, called Gummer, Ben Gummer, who's the son of an idiot called John Selwyn Gummer, who believes in global warming.
	He's that thick, no offence intended.
	He's a real nutter.
	No offence intended.
	He's a peer.
	He bangs on about global warming.
	He thinks the world is warming up, silly man.
	And he thinks you guys are contributing to it by driving SUVs.
	Trust me, if you're driving an SUV and you're listening to this on the digital radio, you probably can these days.
	If you're listening to this on digital radio in your SUV and you're driving an I-10 somewhere in the south of Texas, you are not warming up the planet.
	The planet ain't going to be warming up because you've just driven 10 miles in an SUV. Man-made carbon dioxide emissions are about 1.30, 3.3% or thereabouts of the total.
	Do not affect the climate.
	Ben Gummer is the son of this crank, and Ben is another crank, no offense intended, who believes in the European Union.
	Now, Theresa May had lined up Ben Gummer to take over from day to day, so she basically fights an election on a fraudulent basis.
	She fights an election saying, I am committed to Brexit.
	In fact, she's committed to undermining Brexit.
	Right.
	She runs an election saying, we're not going to be in the customs union.
	We're not going to be in the European economic area like Norway.
	We've rejected the Norway option.
	We've rejected the Turkish option, which is the customs union.
	We're going for a bespoke free trade deal with the EU. Well, no.
	The cabinet office, Oili, the foreign office, cabinet office, Oili Robbins, Theresa May, all working in secret.
	On this association agreement deal which turns Britain into a vassal state.
	It basically means we take EU rules which we are not able to influence.
	They come up with a propaganda term, the common rule book, which is designed to fool people into thinking that somehow Britain will be making the rules or helping to make the rules.
	No, it means that the EU will be making the rules and we will be taking the rules and it Basically killed the idea of a free trade deal with the United States, which we Brexiteers are very committed to.
	Well, that's very extraordinary.
	Now, how can...
	I mean, it sounds really dire, though.
	Is there any...
	It is and it isn't.
	You see, the problem is Oily and Haywood, between them, managed to blow up the government.
	May presents this secret plan, but it couldn't stay secret forever.
	So she bounces the cabinet with this plan.
	David Davis, who's the Europe minister, or the Brexit minister, hasn't even seen it.
	And this document is drawn up in secret in the Cabinet Office by Oily Robbins and Hayward and a small group of officials in the Europe office, or the Europe unit of the Cabinet Office.
	This plan is so secret that the Secretary of State for exiting the European Union, David Davis, has not even seen it.
	And he is the responsible minister.
	Now, David, I like David.
	He's a nice chap.
	We once had a conversation about my being Lord Chancellor, or Shadow Lord Chancellor, as we were then in opposition, and basically joining his Shadow team.
	I would be a peer, and we had that conversation.
	He was happy to have the conversation.
	It didn't go very much further, but we had it.
	That conversation took place in Aylesbury, where I was then living.
	He was doing the leadership battle.
	When he was standing against David Cameron, had he had me on the team, Cameron would not have won, because I would have spotted David Cameron's spy on David Davis' team, who was sabotaging his leadership bid.
	David is not very bright, no offense intended.
	He's a cabinet minister.
	I mean, you wouldn't expect to be that bright.
	He's a politician.
	You know, he's no brighter than the average politician.
	He's that stupid.
	But he's nice.
	I mean, Tim's nice, but dim.
	And he had no idea this was going on.
	He's been made a complete fool of.
	But in life, it's a big mistake to patronize people who aren't very bright.
	It's not their fault that they're not very bright.
	All human beings have good things about them and bad things about them.
	I have a brain, but I don't particularly have any good looks to go with the brain.
	There are many things I can't do.
	I can't dance and I can't sew and I can't knit to save my life.
	I couldn't knit a jumper to save my life.
	There are many things I cannot do.
	I can't plumb a faucet.
	If I'm putting a washer on a faucet, forget it.
	I'll send for the plumber.
	So there are things I can do.
	There are things I can't do.
	But we're still worried about...
	It's a bad thing.
	It's very, very impolite and also very stupid to patronize people who are not as bright as you are, look down on them and basically rub their noses in it.
	Boyley and Hayward were rubbing David Davis's nose in it, but they humiliated him.
	They went one step too far, and they humiliated him to such an extent that he was forced to resign.
	And that's basically blown up the government.
	It's cleared the way for a leadership challenge against Theresa May, and Boris Johnson went within 24 hours.
	Right.
	But to get back to the sort of central...
	Dilemma here.
	So it sounds as though this whole thing is being derailed.
	Are you saying that in order to get Brexit through, there's going to have to be a new government?
	No, no.
	Now, you see, the media are thinking it's been derailed, but the Davis, in fact, what's happened, the Chequers plan, which was a cunning plan by the Prime Minister to surrender to the European Union and have Britain as a vassal state of the EU, taking EU rules forever, and this is a permanent subjection.
	The Theresa May-Hayward-Oily plan, the Robbins-May-Hayward plan for total subjection to the European Union, surrender to Brussels and having Britain as a vassal state, scrapping a free trade deal with America, driving a wedge between London and Washington, moving London closer to Brussels or keeping London close to Brussels.
	This cunning plan has fallen apart because the day this resignation followed by Boris's resignation Basically pulled the rug from under the trees of May.
	She then was forced into concessions, which basically have wrecked the plan.
	So she's agreed, she's facing a rebellion, and the rebellion was led by a nice man called Jacob Rees-Mogg, who I know, known for many years, and I acted for his father as a barrister, Sir William Rees-Mogg, former editor of the Times, great man, very sound on urine.
	And he brought the challenge, the legal challenge, to the Maastricht Treaty.
	And I was one of the two lawyers, along with the late Leo Price, a very fine lawyer.
	Leo Price QC and myself started off that challenge until we were stitched up and the Foreign Office got involved and cut a deal with a man called Bill Cash, who was a Tory Eurosceptic MP. It's a long mother's story.
	Okay, but are you saying that the new government would be Labour?
	No, no, there isn't going to be.
	The new government would be Tory.
	You see, the media have overlooked the fact that David Cameron promoted a completely silly piece of legislation called the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.
	Basically, what that means is that if the Prime Minister resigns, the government technically, if Theresa May resigns, It's almost impossible to force through a general election.
	If she resigns, all that will happen is that she'll stay on as a caretaker Prime Minister while the Tory party selects a new leader.
	The Tory party, along with the supported by the Democratic Union, who are very nice people, has a majority in Parliament.
	The DUP and Tories combined have a working majority.
	There is therefore no need for a general election.
	The Queen wouldn't dissolve Parliament, and in any event, the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act makes it procedurally very difficult.
	What would happen is that Theresa May goes, she stays on, she resigns as Prime Minister, but the Queen invites her to stay on as a caretaker, and everybody normally agrees to a request to stay on as a caretaker, and she carries on as a caretaker.
	She's not running the country, but she's not running the country at the moment anyway, so there's hardly any difference.
	She's a caretaker prime minister.
	Okay, yes.
	She gets the salary.
	She gets to stay in Downing Street.
	She gets to stay in Chequers at the weekend.
	She gets the nice car.
	Well, not really a nice car.
	Okay, but that could be a very temporary state of affairs because electing another Tory leader.
	She hangs on to office for another couple of months while the Tory party elects a leader.
	And then the new Tory leader becomes the new prime minister.
	So who are you saying that would be?
	Oh, I think it's going to be Jacob.
	I think it's going to be Jacob Rees-Mogg.
	I don't think Boris is going to stand.
	Now, I have to be slightly delicate here.
	I know why he didn't stand in 2016.
	I know because I supplied the intelligence to a mutual friend that allowed him to resist pressure from David Cameron.
	See, when Cameron called the referendum in 2016, Cameron thought That Boris was going to be forced into campaigning to stay in the EU. What David Cameron did not know...
	Well, firstly, he did not know that I knew he had backed my prosecution.
	Secondly, he did not know that I knew about a bung that had been arranged by the Cabinet Office To stop the referendum, and there were large payments totaling £50 million, David Cameron did not know I knew about the bung and did not know that I knew about certain payments to certain political parties, certain politicians and certain cabinet office officials.
	He did not know that I'd verified all this with the CIA. He did not know I knew the name of the sending bank.
	He did not know I knew the name of the receiving bank, banks plural.
	He did not know I knew the name of the company which had supplied the bung.
	And he didn't know that I knew the name, knew which project, a major rail project called HS2, that this bung was linked into.
	Okay, but just for Americans and other people in the world listening to this conversation, they're going to be a little confused.
	So you're saying somebody was paid off in order to do what?
	There were a total of around US $80 million worth of payoffs to stop the referendum.
	But it didn't work.
	But...
	Yeah, the payoffs assumed that David Cameron would lose the 2015 election.
	You see, David Cameron was not trying to win in 2015.
	He was trying to lose, but he didn't want to lose by a big margin.
	So he didn't want Labour to win, but he didn't want to win.
	He wanted a coalition with the Lib Dems.
	Liberal Democrats are pro-EU. They're absolute nutters.
	So David Cameron's cunning plan was to call an election, lose the election, and keep the Liberal Democrats in government and they would have blocked a referendum so Cameron then turns would have turned around and said hey can't have a referendum I know I campaigned on a referendum but we can't have it because the Lib Dems are opposed to it now David Cameron couldn't even manage to lose an election idiot he actually won the election and partly because the referendum you
	know the EU is hated in Britain and the referendum promise was very very popular And people could see if they voted Liberal Democrat, we were going to be forced to stay in the EU. So his promise of a referendum is so popular, it basically helped him win the 2015 election.
	And the bribe, the bung which had been paid, had been totally wasted.
	Now, your listeners and viewers will understand that one of the problems with bungs is that you don't get your money back.
	So, you know, you can't, it's not like buying a Dell laptop and the Dell laptop fails to work and you take it back to the computer store that you got it from, Staples or whatever.
	You go down to Staples, you buy yourself a Dell laptop, it doesn't work.
	You go back to Staples and say, I want my money back.
	I want a refund on my credit card account, please.
	Bungs do not work like that.
	So somebody's arranged an $80 million plus bung to stop a referendum in Britain to keep Britain inside the EU. And unfortunately, the bung has not worked because The political assumption underlying the ban was completely false and wrong.
	Unfortunately, you don't then go back to the various political parties and various politicians and various cabinet office officials who've received their share of the bung and say, I want the money back.
	Okay, but fast forward to now.
	You can't go down to the Central London County Court and sue Mr.
	X to hand back the bung.
	Well, actually, though, it might be just postponed.
	So if we're back at this sort of juncture now...
	Where do you think things are headed?
	No, it's too late.
	You see, the government, they can't get, they can't call a general election because of the fixed-term Parliament Act.
	They can't have a second referendum because the Parliament is opposed to a second referendum.
	Labour are opposed, the Tories are opposed, and it's only cramps and idiots like the Scottish National Party and parties close to Germany, like the SMP, which has always been effectively a German client.
	And it goes back to World War II and beyond.
	The SNP, Scottish National Party, always pro-German.
	And the Liberal Democrats, who are idiots, it's only idiots like the Lib Dems and SNP who want a second referendum and cranks like...
	I understand.
	But so where does this leave the Brexiteers, as you call them?
	Well, it leaves us in a fairly strong position.
	The Article 50 notice...
	pulling the UK out of the EU has been served.
	That has been lodged with the European Union.
	Britain leaves the European Union on March 29th, 2019 at 2300 hours local time.
	It's timed because Europe is an hour ahead of us.
	So midnight in Brussels, 2300 in Britain and that's the start of the parties and the fireworks.
	And that notice has been served and there is no prospect of it being withdrawn.
	Yeah, there's no real.
	OK, but it's not so much the fact that it that that goes through.
	Again, the title of this interview is actually Brexit in name only.
	What I'm interested in is how how and who is going to negotiate terms that actually, you know, because there's some, you know, there there's a layer above the people you're talking about, obviously, that have a certain desire to have a certain outcome and that they're the ones I'm that have a certain desire to have a certain outcome and that they're So, well, correct.
	But the nice thing, the really hilarious thing, and also the nice thing, because it's good for Britain, there aren't going to be terms.
	There isn't going to be a deal with the EU. We don't have to have a deal with the EU. We've given notice as of March 29th.
	We're out.
	That's it.
	There's no obligation.
	Okay, do you think, now, there's an interesting, I don't know if you follow this sort of thing, but the Hennock prophecies, Billy Meyer Hennock prophecies, have been fairly accurate in the past.
	And one of the prophecies is that Russia is going to be running Europe in the near future.
	And they're going to be in control of the gas and oil and so on.
	And I'm wondering whether, and the idea is that Britain doesn't want to be part of that whole thing, but they do want to be aligned, as they are already, with America.
	So is this the real reason that they want to stay out of the Union?
	Or what is the real reason?
	Well, now you've raised some very interesting points, Gary.
	You do ask intelligent questions, which is lovely, because I wouldn't get invited on the BBC, but if I were, I wouldn't expect an intelligent question.
	Now, the UK is in the process, Brexit is part of a strategic realignment of the UK. The UK is breaking free from German control and is engaged in a strategic realignment with the United States and the Russian Federation.
	That is why the Germans arranged for the poisoning of a former Russian intelligence officer, Colonel Screeple, in Salisbury, Wiltshire, on March the 4th.
	The British listeners are going to get annoyed because I pronounce Wiltshire as Wiltshire, but I'm aware that most of the listeners and viewers are American.
	I probably want to stick to British pronunciation since I'm a Brit.
	In Salisbury, Wiltshire, which is a lovely part of the world, with a wonderful cathedral where I worship, the highest cathedral spire in England, The Salisbury Cathedral, I don't believe in God, but I'm an Anglican.
	You don't have to believe in God to be an Anglican.
	You just have to believe in steam engines, the royal family, and cricket, and light cathedrals and church music.
	I think you ought to turn up a couple of times a year just to show that you're still an Anglican.
	And have carve-ups.
	Everybody knows which mass I go to at midnight on Christmas.
	I go to midnight mass on Christmas Eve and everybody knows where to find me.
	It's marvellous.
	The last two times there have been huge massive carve-ups.
	bigger carve-ups and the turkey on the menu for Christmas lunch.
	The first carve-ups or, well I better not, I've got to be slightly careful.
	No, please don't go down that road.
	The first carve-up, the retirement of a certain individual was discussed and he retired a few months later.
	He didn't know he was about to be retired.
	He was told he was retiring on the day he retired.
	Okay, but you're going to thoroughly confuse my audience if you don't go back to the point having to do with the Germans being involved in Salisbury and the purpose of that.
	The purpose of that was to try and stop Britain realigning herself with Russia.
	We are going back to the Grand Alliance.
	The Grand Alliance won World War II and essentially won World War I. The Russians drop out because the Germans organize a revolution and put their man Lenin in charge.
	But before the German agent Vladimir Lenin takes over, Russia played a material part in the defeat of Germany.
	We wouldn't have won World War I without Russia's contribution from 1914 to 1917.
	We would not have won World War II. Well, we would have done eventually, but it might have taken another five years.
	We would not have won World War II in six years without the help of Russia.
	Russia actually plays the biggest role in the land war against the Nazis.
	So the Russians creamed the Wehrmacht, they creamed the Nazis, and we are going back to the Grand Alliance, which is Russia, Britain, America.
	The good guys.
	Canada, Australia, New Zealand.
	Right.
	Okay, that makes perfect sense.
	That makes perfect sense, actually.
	That's why Trump is in Moscow.
	Trump is in Moscow because America is realigning against China and in favor of Britain and Russia.
	So there's a strategic realignment which we've actually seen happening in the last week.
	President Trump is realigning America And the realignment is along the lines of the Grand Alliance, which won World War II and World War I. So basically, the good guys are coming together.
	The bad guys are very upset by that, so they arranged to poison a Russian intelligence officer in order to blame the Russians, which is completely silly.
	Only the media and politicians and judges are buying it.
	Nobody with a brain is buying Salisbury.
	A Russian nerve agent is said to have been used.
	But as your listeners and viewers probably understand, Novichok, yes, it's a Russian nerve agent.
	It's an old Soviet-era weapon.
	It's fatal, and it's fatal in very tiny amounts.
	You don't get poisoned with Novichok and survive.
	You're not sitting up in a hospital bed six weeks later if you've been poisoned with Novichok.
	You're poisoned with Novichok, you're dead.
	Well, there's a bio-warfare What organization in Salisbury or very close to it, right?
	Porton Down, yes.
	Porton Down reports to the Cabinet Office.
	British Intelligence is controlled by the Cabinet Office.
	It's not controlled by the Joint Intelligence Committee or the Prime Minister.
	British Intelligence all report, all of our agencies, 5, 6, GCHQ, Porton Down, all report to the Cabinet Office.
	And they're infiltrated by the Germans.
	Is that what you're going to say?
	Of course.
	The cabinet office is infiltrated by the Germans.
	And a German spy in the cabinet office tells Porton Down, you're going to find it's Novichok.
	But it ain't Novichok.
	You know that.
	I know that.
	But the public don't.
	Just tell everybody it's Novichok.
	In fact, the agent was an American agent called BX, developed jointly with Portland Down, which was an incapacitating nerve agent, not a fatal nerve agent.
	It was designed to disable people, not kill them.
	That's why the Screeples survived, at least they had until GA2 kidnapped them.
	I don't know if they're still alive.
	Suggested that Julia Skripal might have been murdered.
	They then were forced to produce her to show that she hadn't been murdered.
	Nobody's heard from Colonel Skripal for a while.
	My fear is that either or both have now been murdered.
	When that allegation started to run out of steam, they then went to Amesbury, which is near Stonehenge, still in Wiltshire, and they knocked over a nice alcoholic lady, perfectly Perfectly pleasant lady, a little bit of an alcoholic, sadly, but, you know, so what?
	That doesn't justify it.
	You can't murder someone because they're an alcoholic, they have to say.
	Well, there was another incident, actually, more recently.
	That's the incident I'm talking about in Amesbury, yeah.
	All right.
	Again, they're blaming Novichok.
	It's not Novichok.
	It's not quite clear what agent was used.
	Well, was that a complete mistake?
	I mean, why did they have a second incident?
	That's crazy.
	Well, it's GO2. It's the German operation in London trying to sit up the Russians.
	So the first incident starts to run out of steam.
	So GO2 said, let's go and knock somebody off in Butcher.
	Oh, God.
	Yes, the poor lady's murdered by GO2. There is a connection between her partner and Boscombe Down, which is the famous airfield where the aeroplane and armament experimental establishment used to be.
	There is a defence connection with this particular lady through her partner, and I think that's why they decided to whack him.
	I think the Germans were having to whack Roly and the nice lady.
	And I'd not criticize her for being an alcoholic.
	She was an alcoholic.
	She didn't deserve to die.
	She was a mother of three children, I think.
	She was a perfectly nice lady.
	Many alcoholics are actually extremely nice people.
	They're just not able to stay off the booze.
	And she'd had a hard life and a difficult life because of the alcohol and the drinking, but she didn't deserve to die.
	Okay, but it's really her partner that is the target, in other words.
	Yes.
	I think that they both were targeted, but it's the partner with the Boscombe-Down connection, the partner with the defence connections, that lead the Germans to select this particular couple.
	I think the German intention was to kill both, but the reason this particular couple was selected was because, I suspect, of the husband's or the male partner's defence connection.
	Well, let me ask you a strange question.
	They may have been chosen at random, but normally the Germans don't go around killing people at random.
	If the Germans are sending a death squad into Wiltshire, normally the death squad will be told who they're going to whack.
	So a German death squad comes down the M3 from Vauxhall Cross, which is the German headquarters in London, GO2. GO2 director sends a death squad into Wiltshire with instructions to murder this nice lady and her partner.
	They kill the lady, the partner survives.
	Okay, but let me ask you something.
	Is this whole thing kind of gearing up for some kind of war with not just Germany and China, but also Antarctica?
	Possible.
	I'm not sure about Antarctica, but we know the German strategy throughout the Cold War was to get Britain and America fighting each other and Russia.
	The German aim since 1945 has been to have the wartime allies destroy each other.
	And that's why we had the Cold War.
	The Cold War was a German idea.
	And it made sense to the Germans.
	The rest of the people that are assuming they're not German spies, the ones that are true Brits, so to speak, are they aware of the things you're talking about, of the German infiltration?
	Is this common knowledge on the upper echelons or not?
	Common knowledge in the upper echelons, not the public don't know about it, the media don't know about it, whereas the media are muppets and the public are just being kept in the dark like mushrooms.
	So the strategy of the British government is to treat the British public like mushrooms and keep them in the dark and feed them shit, if you'll forgive the expression.
	Yes.
	It's great for growing mushrooms.
	It's not a good way to run a democracy.
	So-called democracy, yes.
	Now, as I said, we had a German death squad sorted into Wiltshire with instructions to murder these two nice people.
	They murdered one.
	One survives.
	So Theresa May kind of made a super full of herself at that point when she accused the Russians.
	Yes, she's an idiot.
	Is she also revealing her own cards in that case?
	No, Theresa May is a house trained idiot.
	She doesn't really have opinions of herself.
	She's not smart enough, no offence.
	I'm not criticising her.
	She's got the brain she was born with.
	She makes full use of the limited intellect that she has, with credit to her, and she's become Prime Minister.
	Hasn't made a total mess of the job, but at least she got there more than I've done.
	Now, Theresa May is a house-trained idiot.
	So is she just under orders to...
	But, you know, she came out very quickly accusing the Russians, so she had to be under orders.
	That's because the Cabinet Office is telling her what to say.
	So she gets told...
	She's a mouthpiece for the Cabinet Office.
	So she gets told what to say by the Cabinet Office.
	The Cabinet Office is running the country.
	Theresa May is just a figurehead.
	She's a mouthpiece for the Cabinet Office, and she's a figurehead.
	I'm not saying for one moment that Theresa May knew that there was a German death squad in Wiltshire.
	There's no way in the world anybody in the cabinet office would go to the Prime Minister and say, Prime Minister, we want to send a German death squad into Wiltshire tomorrow and we're going to kill these two people.
	Why?
	Well, because we ought to accept Moscow.
	We ought to drive a wedge between us and the Russians.
	There's no way in the world that Theresa May would have been asked to sanction the hit on This couple in Amesbury.
	No way in the world.
	Apart from anything else, she's not bright enough to do intelligence work, and no intelligence officer is going to go to somebody as thick as Theresa May, no offence intended, talking about sending a death squad down to Wiltshire.
	She wouldn't understand it, and if she did understand it, she'd be totally opposed to it, because she's not actually a killer.
	She's not like the Prime Minister in the fictional House of Cards.
	She doesn't actually believe in murdering political opponents.
	I don't think she even sanctioned the murder.
	I don't think she even agreed to the murder of Joe Cox, who was murdered, as your listeners may know.
	Joe Cox was a British Labour MP who was pro-Remain and she was murdered by the Germans in the referendum campaign in the hope that the Brexit side would be blamed.
	Theresa May was Home Secretary at the time.
	I don't think Theresa May knew that Joe Cox was being murdered by GO2. I don't think she understood that the murder was connected to the referendum.
	She's not bright enough.
	And no intelligence officer worth his or her salt would go to the prime minister and say, we want sanctioned to send the death squads to Wiltshire.
	Well, I mean, this is happening above her head.
	I do understand that.
	Way above her head.
	She doesn't think for one moment there are German death squads operating in Wiltshire.
	She just opens the paper saying these two people have been hit by the Russians and she swallows it.
	Okay.
	Now, again, I want to sort of change direction here on you for the moment.
	I hope you'll be indulgent on this.
	But what I want to do now is look at the visit of Trump to Britain and what you have to say about that and the reaction of certain elements in the British government as well as the people of Because there have been some interesting videos that I just came across showing demonstrations actually being pro-Trump, which is nothing that ever hits the press.
	And also then, what your view is of Trump's kind of grasp of our government and how much infiltration he has along these same lines.
	Well, he's obviously got a problem.
	As we saw, he made a sensible comment in Moscow.
	He makes a sensible comment and then he's told, basically somebody writes something out and says, you say this, Mr.
	President.
	So somebody dictates to him to say this nonsense about Russian interference in the 2016 election, which never happened.
	So the President has just been forced into climbing down, but he's then Turned the tables on his Chief of Staff and whoever else was dictating that silly statement to him.
	He's turned the tables on them by inviting Vladimir Putin to Washington in the fall, which is absolutely wonderful.
	I have to say it was wonderful to see President Trump.
	He is very welcome.
	All Presidents of the United States are welcome apart from Obama.
	He wasn't an American.
	A rare case of an American president not actually being an American.
	But apart from American presidents who are not in fact American and actually come from Kenya, apart from Obama, American presidents are very welcoming.
	We love to see American presidents over here.
	We love America.
	Okay, but aside from the positive sort of accolades, can you tell us what about this sort of infiltration?
	Because, you know, you're talking about the British government.
	You're talking about a move.
	So strategically, what can you tell us?
	Because we hear that Trump is actually going in.
	Trying to arrest at least the pedophiles and various people.
	Whether he'll be successful, I don't know.
	And how successful he'll be.
	I mean, what's your take on that?
	Well, Trump is trying to drain the swamp.
	And I think he wants the swamp drained in London, too.
	He pulled the rug from under Theresa May beautifully.
	He backed Boris Johnson, which was very good of him.
	And he basically has tried to rescue the Anglo-American free trade deal.
	He understands that The Anglo-American free trade deal is very important.
	It's going to take the relationship to the next level.
	We should have had a free trade deal in 1945, but the Germans were opposed to it.
	Germany ruled the roost in Washington and in London after 1945, because the German spy called Clement Attlee was in power in England.
	Truman didn't work for the Germans, but his Secretary of State General Marshall did.
	So, the Secretary of State is a German spy and the Germans make sure there is no free trade deal.
	Basically, the Anglo-American partnership with Russia, which won World War II, is broken up by the Germans in 1945.
	Germany successfully wedges London from Washington and that's been the case for most of the last 70 years.
	The special relationship is You know, British politicians like Theresa May give lip service to it.
	Theresa May is not committed to the special relationship, doesn't like Americans, doesn't like President Trump, didn't really want him to visit England, doesn't want a free trade deal with America and is only interested in being a sort of EU-German client.
	President Trump did significant damage to Theresa May, which was marvellous to see.
	And President Trump understands that there is a realignment underway and he understands it's good for Britain to be close to America and vice versa.
	It's good for you, good for us.
	And he's also recreating the Grand Alliance and he's reaching out to Russia and President Putin.
	And he's absolutely right.
	His strategic thinking is sound.
	And Vladimir Putin is a very nice man and happens to be the elected president of Russia, which happens to be a democracy.
	Okay, but looking forward to the future and also how successful you think Trump is going to be, any thoughts on that?
	I've been very impressed with President Trump in the last six months.
	I think the appointment of John Bolton, my friend who's an awfully nice man, I think John's appointment was a turning point because it meant that there was someone in the administration with a brain Now, up until John's appointment, there was nobody in the administration with a brain, and that seriously hampered the Trump administration.
	President Trump is not as stupid as people make him out to be, but he's obviously not a huge, towering intellect.
	He doesn't pretend to be, and if he was, he wouldn't have been elected, because your intellects can't get elected.
	There's a very good research done on this in California, which was published in our mental journal in Britain.
	The research suggests that it's almost impossible for someone with an IQ of more than 125, 25 points above the mean, to get elected.
	Well, I'm not so sure.
	Let me just say that I have a secret witness who has said that actually, on the contrary, Trump is actually, he may be something of what you call an idiot savant, but he is actually very intelligent, more intelligent than that.
	Yes, I mean, he's certainly not stupid.
	He's a lot brighter than people give him credit for, but he's not He's not highly intelligent.
	Okay, now, I also have, I guess you know Simon Parks, obviously.
	He's talking about, I think it is, is it General Dunford, who he says is really the sort of the power behind the throne, so to speak.
	Is that what you've heard?
	I certainly know the name, put it that way.
	Okay, he's a military officer.
	I've never met the general, but I gather he's good people.
	Okay, so you don't...
	But we know that Trump has the backing.
	I think the general and I have a mutual friend, a really lovely man called Andy Marshall, who is a variant.
	When I say that Donald Trump hasn't got a A massive, towering intellect.
	I'm talking an IQ of 175 plus.
	His IQ numbers are pretty high, but they're not in the same category as, say, someone like Andy Marshall.
	Andy Marshall was the guy who essentially won the Cold War, and he headed up, for many years, the Office of Net Assessment in the Pentagon.
	He was the most powerful intelligence official in the Pentagon.
	You will have heard of a couple of prejudices of his, Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney.
	And he's the guy who, Donald and Dick were protégés of Andy.
	Andy is very good people.
	He was always very charming to me when I popped in to see him at the Pentagon.
	The only problem with seeing Andy Marshall is that they didn't have a coffee machine.
	They did lousy coffee in the Office of Net Assessment.
	I don't know why.
	Okay, so you don't know a whole lot.
	I always bang on the Pentagon doing good coffee, but...
	So you don't really have much of a comment, though, about the notion that he's a Marine Corps general, Joseph Dunford.
	Yeah, he's core.
	He's good people.
	We have mutual friends.
	Obviously, I'm friendly with the Marine Corps and I bumped into the odd comment down to the Marine Corps.
	The General Dunford and I have a number of mutual friends.
	Well, what does it mean?
	I mean, just from your standpoint, because I know you have quite a background in the military, understanding the military and studying it as well.
	What can you say about having...
	In essence, the military behind him, for the most part, Trump, this is very positive, right?
	General Dunford is good people, and he's intelligent.
	He is highly intelligent.
	In other words, these people are not working for the Germans, but who is?
	Well, there we get into the name problem again, because I'm government- Well, can you allude to certain, I don't know, houses, you know, certain, like in the executive branch, do we have, you know, that kind of thing?
	You do, yes.
	You've got major problems in the cabinet, you've got major problems in the CIA, you've got major problems in the FBI, you've got huge problems on the big, big penetration problems on the National Security Council, and one or two advisors close to the president are a bit dodgy.
	I'm wondering now, will people like Trump be aware of this level that we're talking about here?
	General Dunford probably will be.
	The President, not necessarily.
	I'm not criticizing him.
	He is an intelligent man.
	But when I talk about high intelligence, just to define that, I'm really talking...
	Well, it also has to do with who's briefing him.
	It's not so much necessarily...
	I mean, he certainly has the intelligence to grasp the obvious if he's told about it.
	And he's got...
	he's one of these people who's not an MBA all right it was any from Harvard but they never let us got an MBA and George W wasn't stupid he He was portrayed as such.
	He isn't.
	And he grasped intelligence quite well.
	Friends of mine who briefed in George W said that he was very, very quick to pick up points.
	George W is not stupid by any stretch of the imagination.
	But Donald Trump seems to share this facility with George W., that he's very, very quick to pick up points and very willing to appoint people who are smarter than he is.
	He doesn't suffer this intellectual...
	He doesn't have this feeling that he's...
	He only wants to surround himself with people who are dumber than he is, or at least at his intellectual level.
	He's prepared to appoint people like John Bolton, who are really very smart indeed, and he listens to them.
	And this is good.
	And this is very different to, say, Theresa May, who isn't very bright, is not as bright as President Trump, and there isn't anybody in Downing Street with a brain, and is effectively captured by the Cabinet Office.
	She's a house-trained idiot.
	Because she can't think for herself at this level.
	She hasn't got any advisors yet.
	There isn't a single person with a brain in the whole of Downing Street.
	There was Nick Timothy.
	He had a brain, but she was forced to sack him.
	Once Nick had gone, that was the end of it.
	I kid you not, there isn't anybody with a brain in Downing Street.
	There's nobody with a brain in the cabinet.
	Jacob Rees-Molge is the smartest MP. He's not in the cabinet.
	Boris Johnson's stupid, but you wouldn't say he had a brain.
	Okay, now I want to again change gears on you, and we're not going to keep you forever.
	I know we've had you here for a while, and I'm going to look in the chat, see your questions.
	It's Friday night.
	I've had a glass or something to...
	Chill out with at the end of a long, hard week with a fair bit hot, what week in England called hot weather.
	It's not what you would call hot weather.
	Not what a Californian would call hot weather.
	We're not geared up.
	The Americans are geared up hot weather.
	We aren't.
	I know that.
	I'm quite aware of that.
	You guys know how to do hot weather.
	Most of you guys don't even have air conditioning, for God's sake.
	We don't have air conditioning.
	When we do have it, it breaks down because it's not designed to deal with hot weather.
	Our air conditioning is designed to deal with warm weather, not hot weather.
	The minute the weather gets hot, it all breaks down.
	Okay, now I want to ask you something.
	Because there is such a backlash in Hollywood against Trump.
	And I'm wondering if you know how this is being orchestrated or why.
	Like, is this a German influence in Hollywood?
	What's going on?
	Germany controls Hollywood finance.
	Everybody says, you know, people run around with conspiracy theories about Jewish control of Hollywood finance.
	Forget it.
	The Germans control offshore banking because they control offshore high-yield I've tried to raise finance for movies.
	I wouldn't dream of trying to raise finance for a movie.
	I was consulted over a very interesting movie project, The Last Witch.
	And I wouldn't even start, I wouldn't even attempt to raise finance in Hollywood or LA. You go to New York.
	If you want money in America for a movie, you go to New York.
	The finance comes out of the East Coast.
	The talent is on the West Coast.
	The money is on the East Coast.
	Well, the money in the East Coast, you're saying this is German money?
	I would think it was from the mob.
	Germany controls all the major American banks, controls all the major British banks.
	Okay, but what about the mob?
	Oh, the mob are involved as well, yeah, but then the mob work for intelligence, don't they?
	I mean, the mob is just, you know...
	So you're saying the Italians are working?
	The mafia were basically a branch office of Italian intelligence.
	Right?
	All right, so you're saying they're still infiltrated by the Germans?
	Absolutely.
	So Hollywood, one of the reasons why bad guys in Hollywood movies who usually tend to be British is the Germans are bankrolling the movie.
	If a German can find a bank.
	No, that's an observation my partner and I have made on numerous occasions saying the mystery.
	German-controlled bank wants British villains in Hollywood movies.
	They don't want John Lithgow.
	What they don't want is German, the German bad guys, which used to be, you know, basically deregert.
	When did you last have a German bad guy in a Hollywood movie?
	I'm trying to think of the last one.
	Well, it would have been, well, something like, you know, something Spielberg had done, you know, back in...
	That era.
	Yeah, Spielberg's an exception.
	Stephen, I call him Stephen.
	We've never met.
	I've met his attorney, but I know it's Stephen.
	Stephen has enough pull.
	He's actually one of those who's got so much pull, he can probably arrange independent finance.
	Basically, Stephen can pretty much do what he wants.
	Yes, so I've heard.
	He's got a freedom of maneuver that He and George Lucas are probably the two biggest boys in Hollywood.
	They can do their own projects.
	So Stephen can actually make a movie he wants to make.
	He doesn't have to make rubbish.
	He doesn't have to make movies about sharks in order to make his name.
	He's made his name.
	He's made his money.
	He's got powerful connections.
	And Stephen can make movies that he really would like to make.
	So, okay, so let's jump over to the whole satanic agenda and where the Germans fit in on this.
	Because, you know, we know that Hollywood and the music industry and so on, I mean, it's very, very strong.
	And then, of course, basically the child trafficking, the pedophilia, et cetera, in Hollywood.
	There's a samey side to Hollywood.
	But it's engineered.
	It's engineered just as there is in the British government.
	You know what I'm saying?
	The satanic side.
	I'm always very wary about Satanism.
	Basically, I regard Satanism as an excuse to get somebody's clothes on.
	I'm not sure how many people actually believe it.
	I know it's hard to believe, but nonetheless, it appears that it does influence, and the symbolism is everywhere.
	I mean, I don't know if you know about the work of Jordan Maxwell, but et cetera, et cetera.
	So the whole symbolic side to this, if you go back to the Germans and you say they're running things from behind the scenes, I wonder what their investment is.
	Does this go back to Dracula and the whole thing on that level?
	Well, I don't know about Dracula.
	I'm going to put Count Dracula to one side, but Satanism is real.
	Yes, there are satanic cults, and yes, we have powerful people involved, and yes, there is ritual, and it usually involves children and sexual abuse.
	And I think...
	And it's rampant in Hollywood, so who's running the show?
	Oh, yeah.
	What's the name of the famous grove that Nixon turned up to in California?
	Bohemian Grove, that's in the north.
	Yes, yeah.
	I mean, there's an intelligence connection there, a bit like the society in Yale.
	Right, yes, of course, Skull and Bones.
	Skull and Bones.
	These are all...
	Fronts for intelligence and they're wonderful ways of blackmailing people.
	Now, if you think about it, you're an American politician and you roll up to Beaming Grove and you're getting your clothes off and somebody's being...
	There's sexual abuse.
	There's a bit of gay sex.
	It's not the sort of thing that's going to play down well with the voters if the video is put on YouTube and it gives the people organizing it a hold.
	So it's a means of blackmailing politicians.
	Right.
	There is a deeper intelligence.
	I always look, if I'm confronted with a child paedophile ring or a satanic cult or the Japanese cult, the Japanese understand this and they just very properly executed the members of that German-sponsored cult that ran around the Tokyo subway system killing people.
	The Japanese are very annoyed with the Germans and decided to whack a few German assets and quite right too.
	These cults are usually fronting for an intelligence agency.
	You had a notorious mass murderer by the name of Charles Manson.
	Right.
	Now, he was a German agent.
	He was DVD. Oh, that's interesting.
	Okay, I haven't heard that.
	Oh, yes.
	Now, do you know a guy named, an investigator named Peter Lavenda?
	I do not.
	Okay.
	He's written a number of books about sort of Manson-like, you know, the infiltration of Hollywood and so on by these cults and by, you know, I don't know if he has revealed that level.
	He's the sort of man I probably ought to be having lunch with.
	But the moment I've got these convictions, I can't even get into America at the moment.
	I cannot get an American visa.
	I can't just pop over to Washington like I used to.
	And if you win your case, you will be able to, yes?
	Well, that's right.
	But also, the way things are going in Washington, I may well find my electronic travel facility is restored.
	What does that mean?
	What do you mean by that?
	In the old days, I had a multiple-entry U.S. visa, and I had a 10-year multiple-entry U.S. visitor visa, and I would just renew it every 10 years, which meant I could go to visit America as often as I want, and I didn't need to apply for a visa each time I went.
	Then you brought in the Electronic Travel Authority, and you had to sign up for that, and if you're in with the You didn't need a visa.
	But my membership, my ETSA, it's been so long since I've travelled to America, I've forgotten the initials.
	Is it ETSP? ETSA? The electronic Okay, I think I know what you mean, but I don't know the initials.
	My authorization was pulled on the orders of the Obama White House after my conviction.
	Oh, I see.
	And after that, I needed a visa.
	And the next time I wanted to visit America was to give evidence against President Obama in the New York State Supreme Court.
	And I found that I couldn't get into America.
	This was 2014.
	I couldn't get into America.
	My electronic travel authority was revoked and I couldn't get a visa.
	I rolled up to the U.S. Embassy to get a visa and found myself talking to a nice lady, a nice young man who went away and talked to the CIA, who were hovering in the background, smiling.
	And they think, I don't know if they realized that I knew they were there, but I thought, okay, right.
	Okay, now I have one more question.
	I have one more question for you, then I'm going to go to the chat, and then we're going to end this whole thing.
	I have been told recently that the NSA, we know that there's a rivalry between the NSA and the CIA, that's known, but Yes, because the NSA worked for you guys and the CIA worked for the Germans.
	Okay, that was my question.
	And the NSA are Republicans and the CIA are Democrats.
	So, yeah, there's obvious tension.
	There's bound to be tension between Mead and Langley, because Langley worked for the Krauts.
	NSA worked for Uncle Sam.
	And as I say, the NSA are Republicans and Langley are Democrats.
	Right.
	But it doesn't always fall.
	There's the occasional traitor like Ed Snowden, the NSA, and there are good people in the CIA. But basically, your average CIA person is a Democrat who's working for the Germans.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Very interesting.
	Okay.
	Or they're useful idiots.
	They're people who don't really know what's going on.
	You can meet with people in the CIA who have no idea that the thing is run out of Frankfurt, never heard of the career group and think they're working for an American intelligence agency where they're actually working for a German intelligence agency.
	It's one of the reasons it's called the CIA. The C stands for central and that's probably a German boast.
	That probably goes back to the central powers which was the which was the The German alliance which started World War I. Remember the Germans start World War I. They are called the Central Powers.
	In World War II it was the Axis, in World War I it was the Central Powers.
	And if you think about it, how many US agencies have the word Central in them?
	America is a federal state.
	You would think that if it was an American agency it would be called the FIA or Federal Intelligence Agency.
	The FBI is called the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
	The CIA It was kind of a clue.
	It was a German base.
	This is our agency.
	We set it up.
	It was set up by a German spy called Roscoe Hellencoiter.
	He worked very closely with several other German spies, including...
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Yeah, Hellencoiter was a German spy.
	So was Walter Beatlesmith, so was Alan Walsh Dulles, so was John Foster Dulles, and the first three directors of the CIA are all German spies.
	The CIA was set up essentially as an American branch office, American branch office of the DVD. In the same way, the Germans set up MI6 and MI5. Well, they certainly were working very closely with the Germans.
	Not even at...
	World War II hadn't even ended, and they were already working very closely.
	Dulles Brothers and all of that.
	Oh, well, the Dulles Brothers were working for German intelligence throughout the whole of World War II. They tried to carve up a separate piece in 1943.
	Well, if that's the case, though, how did D-Day really get off the ground without...
	Well, I did do a lot of hard work and a huge amount of sacrifice and a little bit of nifty counterintelligence work.
	I mean, D-Day was a carver.
	Okay, but were the Americans not party to D-Day until the last minute?
	President Roosevelt didn't know what was happening.
	The D-Day was a carve-up.
	Remember, there's tension between Canaris, the head of intelligence, and Adolf Hitler.
	So our community partner, Adolf Hitler, Canaris wants to whack him.
	So Wilhelm wants to whack Adolf.
	And he wants to replace Adolf with Erwin Rommel.
	And D-Day was a carve-up.
	The idea of D-Day was that France would be liberated but then remain under German control because the Germans had somebody lined up to take over.
	The Germans, remember, were blackmailing de Gaulle.
	France would be liberated, would remain a German client state.
	It eventually happened with the Fifth Republic.
	But the original plan was to have France as a client state of the Germans pretty much from the time of liberation.
	What's the role of Marcon then at this time?
	Yeah, the idea was we and the Americans would get ashore.
	Rommel was pulled back.
	The whole thing was time for his wife's birthday to give him an excuse not to be there.
	The idea was to let us land and let you guys land and we were going to liberate France.
	The Germans were then going to take back control of France.
	And Rommel, there was going to be a separate peace or a peace with Germany.
	Hitler was going to be whacked, and Canaris would then say, oh, Hitler's gone, the Nazis are gone, the bad guys are gone, we're the nice people, we just murdered Hitler, we're the good guys, because, let's face it, if you whack Adolf Hitler, you're going to be seen as a good guy.
	And the idea was that Rommel would take over and there would be a peace between Britain, America and Germany, allowing Germany to remain in complete, permanent control of the Western Europe.
	But that didn't succeed, obviously.
	It didn't succeed because although Adolf Hitler wasn't particularly bright, he wasn't stupid, he was an intelligence officer after all, but he wasn't terribly bright, but he had a man with a brain giving him advice, Heinrich Himmler.
	And the whole cunning plan failed because Heinrich spotted what was going on.
	So when they put the bomb in the bunker in the...
	Heinrich's man, Schlaffenberg is working for Canaris, puts the bomb where it's going to whack Adolf.
	But Heinrich's man knows what's happening.
	Heinrich is in the loop.
	Heinrich stops it.
	The bomb is positioned so that it'll injure Adolf, but not kill him.
	And the injuries to Adolf allow Heinrich to go to Adolf and say, this nearly killed you, Mein Fuhrer.
	We need to shut down the Abwehr and I need to arrest Wilhelm.
	So Heinrich then arrests Wilhelm.
	Heinrich didn't want Hitler to escape scot-free, as he had done at Smolensk, where Heinrich's man also spotted the bomb on the plane causing the Abwehr.
	Yeah, it took the Abwehr years to discover that and why their bomb hadn't worked.
	Heinrich's man was on the plane.
	He knew the bomb was there and he yanked the fuse.
	Okay, but I'm sure you agree that Hitler went down to Argentina and lived out the rest of his life, right?
	No, no.
	I actually think the Jerry's had two or three doppelgangers running around Argentina.
	The Jerry's are great for doppelgangers.
	Right, I've heard that, but come on, where did you think he ended up?
	Moscow.
	Moscow.
	Austria.
	No, Austria.
	Oh, Austria.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Just across the Bavarian frontier.
	Not a million miles from British Garden.
	Nice part of the world.
	Remember, he was Austrian.
	Are you sure?
	Not Antarctica?
	Not Antarctica?
	No, no.
	Not in Argentina?
	Not in Cuenca, Argentina, where some people have said that he was a priest?
	No, no, no, no.
	Remember, the doppelganger, one of the things you'll notice about the doppelgangers, all the doppelgangers have Hitler moustaches.
	The one thing you would not do if you were Adolf Hitler in 1945 is keep the moustache.
	First thing any intelligence officer would do is, Mein Fuhrer, gotta lose the moustache.
	He lost the moustache and he obviously lost the Nazi armband, that might have given the game away.
	If you'd rolled up to an Austrian village with a Hitler moustache and a swastika armband, Even the Austrian media might have picked up that something was not quite right about the suicide theory.
	The body, by the way, that everybody thought was Adolf turned out to be a woman's, who definitely wasn't Adolf.
	He was definitely a man and definitely did not commit suicide.
	Now, I've dealt with people who dealt with Adolf after 1945 and Eva Braun.
	One of my contacts met Eva Braun in 1947.
	Eva survives, Adolf survives, Adolf goes down to Austria.
	Query, when did Adolf die?
	Now, I think fairly early.
	I've heard 51, and I kind of go with that.
	He had Parkinson's, and there was this crazy doctor called Morel that Canaris had lumbered him with, who was feeding him all sorts of drugs in a hideous cocktail.
	Adolf, by 45, was a wreck, and The guy didn't, you know, his health had gone down.
	And of course, he had, you know, he started World War II and he'd lost it.
	And it's always upsetting when you start a world war and you lose it.
	It's a bit like, you know, Gareth Southgate in the semifinals of the World Cup.
	It's very upsetting when you lose the big match.
	All right, now someone in the chat is saying that they're not necessarily agreeing with you, it looks like here, but they're saying that on Amazon there's a book by Mike King called The Bad War, and I'm not sure what it contains.
	I haven't read it, but are you familiar with that book?
	My King rings a bell.
	It's not in my library.
	I've not read it.
	Again, it's one of these books I probably ought to add to my reading this, and My King is probably one of these people I ought to be having lunch with.
	Okay, sounds kind of interesting.
	I fairly confess I have not read the book.
	I heard the name.
	All right.
	All right.
	Well, at any rate, I mean, we don't need to sort of go down this road too far at the moment, but the things you're saying are very interesting.
	They do conflict with various things that other people are saying obviously Yeah Alright, so so I I don't see any straightforward questions here in the chat but in terms of your access, you know to behind the scenes because you seem to have quite a bit of access and
	Do you feel that your access has increased, decreased, or stayed about the same since your sort of, I guess, I don't know if they call it an arrest, indictment, whatever it was.
	My incarceration, no, it's increased.
	Okay.
	Everybody knows I'm innocent.
	All major players know I'm innocent.
	They know I was fitted up.
	Doors that were closed to me in 2014 have been reopened.
	So the level of access is increasing.
	For example, we're trying to shut down GO2 and MI6 sat next to me on a train ride home.
	MI6 came along and wanted to chat and having a discussion about how we're going to shut down GO2 because MI6 are fed up with them and they can't get into the building.
	It's MI6 headquarters, officially, and GO2, they can't get into half the building.
	Well, they can't get into the GO2's bit of the building.
	So I'm having a conversation with MI6, how are we going to We don't want to blow the bloody building up.
	We just want to blow the bloody doors off.
	You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off.
	Well, the SAS boys, we've got a good PE man lined up.
	He'll be able to blow the doors off, no worries at all.
	He's actually been into CGO2. He knows where the doors are and will get just the right amount of plastic to blow the door off but not start blowing windows out and causing journalists to run in.
	Okay, now I do have a couple of questions that have cropped up in the So I'll try to ask you those.
	Sorry to move this along here, but someone is asking about who controls the Australian politics and their agenda.
	And I think that's a very good question, actually.
	That's easy.
	Australia's a Chinese client state at the moment.
	The Australian PM is very close to Peking.
	He's an idiot.
	Malcolm Turnbull, he doesn't like me.
	I don't like him.
	The last communication I had from Malcolm was a few years ago.
	It was pretty rude.
	He's not very bright again.
	But the intelligence services of Australia are very aligned with America.
	So how do you account for that?
	Well, yes and no.
	Australia is part of the ANZUS arrangements with New Zealand and the United States.
	Australia is officially a democracy.
	In practice, it isn't.
	In practice, Australia is a Chinese client state.
	Now, when Tony Abbott was in power, things were different.
	But in practice, Canberra kowtows to Peking.
	All right.
	I can't get into Australia at the moment, even though my elderly parents and brothers and sisters and nephews and sisters all live in Australia.
	I can't get into the country, and that's because Peking rules the rich in Canberra.
	All right, well, where does that put North Korea and the relationship with North Korea then in Australia?
	Well, that's complex.
	North Korea is a Chinese client state, and, of course, the Korean War was set up by the Germans.
	Because Mao Zedong and the original Kim were German assets.
	And the Luftwaffe, it was Adolf Galland and his Luftwaffe ME-262 boys who were flying the mid-15s in the Korean War, which is why they weren't allowed to fly in South Korean airspace in case they got shot down and somebody was captured.
	So what do you know behind the scenes about this latest so-called peace that Trump has got together with?
	I've written about this in Veterans Today.
	I think The President was right to meet Kim.
	I think tensions needed cooling.
	It was getting a little bit out of hand and there was always the danger of a nuclear exchange.
	I think the President His heart's in the right place, obviously.
	He's committed to peace.
	He was threatening North Korea with nukes, but he didn't really want to.
	He's a nice man.
	He doesn't want to bomb Pyongyang.
	He wants peace.
	Yeah, but I also heard he was...
	This was a pressure put upon Korea.
	Actually, they made a deal.
	And I thought the deal had a lot to do with rare earth elements.
	Oh, that...
	Yeah.
	That might be featuring in Behind the Scenes.
	There is talk, somebody read a novel, I think Tom Clancy, didn't it?
	Wasn't that feature in a Tom Clancy novel?
	Rare Earth elements, yes, Korea does have Rare Earth elements.
	Rare Earth elements are increasingly important.
	And they're in all sorts of places like Bolivia and North Korea where you wouldn't necessarily expect to find valuable minerals.
	Right, and Afghanistan.
	The Aussies have a lot of minerals.
	That may well have featured in the discussions behind the scenes.
	Trump doesn't cut a particularly good deal, but I think this is one of the situations, not like the EU. I think any deal was better than no deal.
	It wasn't a particularly good deal.
	But Korea's not going to agree to anything that China...
	Correct me if I'm wrong, but North Korea would not agree to anything that China hadn't already told them they'd better agree.
	Of course, yeah.
	The summit wouldn't have gone ahead if Peking hadn't told Kim to have the meeting.
	So why is China playing that game?
	Well, the Chinese...
	This is one of the reasons why I think Donald Trump is hitting China with tariffs.
	He's right to do so.
	The Chinese depend on access to the American market.
	Remember, it's American consumers who are bankrolling China's economic growth.
	So the Chinese have to be a little bit careful.
	They can't just upset their largest single market, which is the United States.
	And if China wants to be the global superpower it has ambitions to be, she's got to tread a little bit carefully on the way up.
	And she certainly doesn't want a nuclear exchange on the Korean Peninsula.
	I think Xinping, the Chinese kingpin, if you'll forgive the expression, realized that there needed to be a deal.
	And I also think there are one or two people in Peking with a brain, not many, but there are.
	And I think the intelligent boys in Peking realized that things were getting a bit out of hand anyway.
	What about the notion that China may invade the United States sometime in the future?
	Have you heard that?
	Oh, yes.
	Not only heard it.
	I've warned the Pentagon about that.
	Now, that's one of the few occasions I got something back for my intelligence.
	You've heard of a guy called Richard Branson, who's a nice guy.
	He used to run an airline called Virgin Atlantic, and he bought a bunch of planes called the A380. What do you mean used to?
	I thought he still ran it.
	Well, he kind of does.
	He's a bit of a figurehead now.
	All right.
	But in the days when he really ran the airline, he bought a bunch of planes called the A380, the super jumbo made by Airbus.
	Not as good as the American jumbo, but a nice enough plane if you like French planes.
	And it was a sort of Citroen of jumbos.
	And the A380, Richard was a bit puzzled because his fuel consumption figures were way off spec.
	The A380 couldn't deliver on the promises that were made by Airbus in terms of its fuel consumption.
	And the suspicion, the Virgin Atlantic boys thought, they initially thought that the engines might be to blame.
	In fact, the plane was 11 metric tons overweight.
	Why was it 11 metric tons overweight?
	Because Airbus had cut a deal with the Chinese for a military version, because with the big fuselage, you'd get a main battle tank in that, and with the big long range, you could fly the main battle tank from China to Mexico.
	Now, the plan, the cunning Chinese plan, this is a long-term plan, you're looking 10, 15, 20 years into the future, but the cunning long-term Chinese plan was to invade America via Mexico.
	If you want to invade America, only an idiot starts launching amphibious operations across 3,000 miles of ocean to hit the East Coast or 8,000 miles of ocean to hit the West Coast.
	Only a fool would launch an amphibious invasion of the United States.
	If you want to invade the United States, you'd do it via Mexico.
	Right.
	In fact, it's already been done, some would say, with gangs and drugs and what have you.
	Well, and is this also why they want to build the wall?
	Well, exactly.
	Now, you could go via, well, the more there's, yeah, the more's not going to keep out a tank, but yeah, yeah.
	You could go via Canada, but invading Canada is a bit tricky, and you might end up having to play ice hockey.
	With Mexico, Mexico's a German client state, so the Mexicans let you land, which the Canadians wouldn't.
	So the cunning Chinese plan was, Mexico's a German client state, we're very close to the Germans, Mao Zedong was a German spy, the Chinese Communist Party is a A front for German intelligence.
	We'll just cut a deal with the boys in Mexico, buy them a few extra tortillas, and we'll fly our planes into Mexican airfields, and we invade America via Mexico.
	Well, it was a cunning plan, but it had one major flaw.
	Well, it had two major flaws.
	The first major flaw was that it was bollocks, because you guys would have spotted what was going on and stopped it.
	The second major flaw was that Mexico is hot and high.
	And many military airlifter versions of the A380 needed to have hot and high performance.
	That meant they had to strengthen the wings, and that meant they had to strengthen the wing box, and that meant they had to bulk it up a bit, and that meant the whole plane was 11 metric tons overweight.
	The problem was that they needed 115,000-pound thrust engines.
	Now, Rolls-Royce had agreed to do an extra high-powered engine, They were already running the Trent on the testbed at 1.15.
	Airbus wanted four Trent engines churning out 1.15 pounds thrust each.
	The Chinese had a spy inside Rolls-Royce who's recently been arrested for the importance of doubt.
	He's officially innocent until he's proven guilty.
	He is an accused Chinese spy.
	I should not put it any higher than that.
	They wanted 150,000 pounds thrust.
	That meant, as I say, stronger They needed stronger wing box to take the thrust to allow the planes to take off and land on hot and high airfields with very heavy loads, including Chinese main battle tanks and Chinese troops and what have you, and a whole bunch of noodles to support the Chinese army whilst they're invading the United States.
	You know, Chinese army on the march needs a lot of noodles.
	You needed lots of thrust.
	Basically, the plane is overweight because of the military requirement.
	And their plan was to shift the wing to do what the Americans did, what you guys did with the galaxy.
	What they were going to do was to shift the wing so that the plane is actually designed so that you can have a high mounted or shoulder mounted wing.
	And that was another complication because that meant the wing box, the high mounted wing box introduced extra weight because the wing box was designed to go low, go high.
	It's a heavier wing box than it would be if it was just there for low mounting.
	You want your wings up high, as with the Galaxy, because you want your loading ramps down low.
	Okay, but to get away from the technical too much, can you say, did they get what they want or not?
	Well, the Airbus didn't know the China plan was cancelled.
	After I had an asset inside the Airbus plant in Toulouse, I shot the whole plan to the Pentagon and the whole operation was cancelled.
	And I then went to Richard Branson and said, by the way, your Airbus planes are not delivering on fuel specs, are they?
	How did you know that?
	Well, we didn't actually meet.
	I was emailing him.
	He was down in the West Indies, this island of NECA, I think it was called.
	He's got a little island down in the West Indies.
	He has a private email account.
	You'll not be surprised to hear.
	And he and I were having a little exchange of emails.
	And I was talking to Virgin Atlantic and I said, look, boys, your plane ain't delivering the fuel consumption that you were promised.
	That's because it's 11 metric tons overweight.
	That's because Airbus are knocking up a Chinese, a military version for the Chinese with higher thrust engines for hot and high takeoffs in Mexico with heavy loads.
	You want to go back to Airbus and you want to get him to drop the price.
	Which they did.
	And therefore, Virgin Atlantic owed me a favor.
	And I ended up on the board of a little startup company called Cox Powertrain Limited.
	We had a nice little engine that we were having to put on a UAV for the CIA. And I had got the boys in to see the skunkworks.
	If you want to build a UAV for the CIA, go talk to the skunkworks.
	They're very nice people.
	And I knew Frank Capuccio was then running the skunkworks.
	And The boys and I were off to Palmdale, and I said, look, we were a startup.
	We didn't have much cash.
	The MD, lovely man named John Allen, was doing it on his air miles, and I said, hey, look, I'll ask Richard Branson and see if we can get an upgrade.
	He owes me a favor.
	They thought I was making it up.
	I wasn't.
	We got six upgrades to upper class in and out of LAX, which was great fun, and the VIP lounge at Heathrow.
	It was marvelous.
	We rolled up to Heathrow.
	We were expected.
	Richard Branson knows how to run things.
	We were expected and we got the lounge invite and the business class seats.
	We enjoyed Virgin Atlantic Upper Class.
	It's actually a very nice product.
	It's a good airline.
	They had a very nice sleeper seat.
	Okay, so back to the...
	All right, fair enough.
	But back to the invasion of the Chinese.
	So you have warned America, and apparently the planes have been prevented from allowing this to happen.
	But what about the idea of a maglev train?
	Do the Chinese...
	Do they have access to our maglev going between Australia and...
	Places in Vegas, etc.
	Are you familiar with this?
	Oh, yes.
	The Chinese have the maglev technology, but I think somebody's been sabotaging...
	Don't they have a maglev train that goes into Shanghai Airport?
	Or out of Shanghai Airport?
	There's a maglev train...
	Okay, from there where?
	Is there a maglev train that goes from...
	I've never been to Shanghai, because I can't get into China.
	If I got into China, I wouldn't get out, so I don't bother.
	There's a maglev train, is there not, from Shanghai to Shanghai Airport.
	It's been years since I looked at it.
	I think somebody sabotaged it at one point.
	Somebody's making a point.
	Okay, but moving troops, I'm interested in that.
	So are you saying that the maglev is unlikely to be?
	I mean, wouldn't they have to commandeer our maglev that goes?
	Oh, you know, maglev is no good for using troops because your maglev uses a lot of power, so you just whack the power supply, and that's the end of your maglev.
	The maglev trains are not autonomous.
	Well, then how would they move troops if they don't have a plane?
	Well, that's the point.
	A ship?
	Well, yeah.
	A submarine?
	A submarine's not a good way to move troops, right?
	Exactly.
	I think this may be loopback.
	It's what the intelligence community referred to as loopback.
	This could be an echo of the work that I was doing on exposing this Airbus plan.
	The Chinese plan to invade America by Mexico...
	It is quite an old plan.
	We're going back 10 years.
	Right.
	And this could well be looped back.
	There was a Chinese plan to invade America.
	There still is, stuck in a drawer in a think tank in Peking.
	Okay, so you don't think that's an eventuality in the future?
	No, it's been spotted.
	The boys have been spotted and headed off.
	Right.
	They'll never get...
	I mean, their thinking was, we can't get...
	We can't move troops and tanks across the Pacific because the US Navy will sink them, which they will.
	Therefore, we fly over.
	So why don't we just fly over the Pacific, which we need a big airplane?
	Who's got a big airplane?
	Oh, Airbus.
	Well, actually, the Australian.
	What about the new Australian plane?
	You pass on that one.
	I have a new Australian plane.
	The last Australian plane was the Nomad.
	Well, it's a passenger plane, but it's gigantic.
	I don't know what it's called.
	I don't know anything about planes, but it's the biggest plane ever.
	I'm a little out of the loop.
	I wasn't aware the Aussies had been working on a plane.
	I find that slightly odd because the Australians have only ever done stuff.
	Well, I don't know who builds their planes, of course, but I do know that it's an Australian plane.
	Well, maybe somebody out there might know what I'm talking about.
	You've piqued my interest, Kerry.
	You're an expert in technology, I know.
	Yeah, well, I've had things to look at.
	That sounds like something I ought to be looking at.
	Okay, cool.
	Well, yeah, because if you're saying that they've got some control over Australia, then the Australian plane might be just the thing.
	I don't know.
	You know, I know nothing about this.
	Oh, ah, ah.
	So the Chinese control Australia.
	Airbus plan was spotted.
	The Chinese still have...
	The plans will be filed away.
	The plan will still be there.
	The Chinese will be looking at other countries to make them a plane that will take their main battle tank across the Pacific.
	There's also an interesting relationship between India and China.
	Have you ever looked into that?
	Oh, I have indeed looked at that very closely.
	Remember, China occupies a bit of India.
	People forget that.
	The bit of Kashmir that belongs to India is occupied by Chinese troops.
	Yes.
	Yeah, the Chinese-Indian connection is very interesting because the Chinese have brought up a lot of Indian politicians, but they don't control everybody in New Delhi.
	India is not a Chinese clan state.
	And what about Pakistan?
	Pakistan is a Chinese clan state.
	That's why we have Pakistan.
	It's one of the reasons why the Germans set it up.
	Interesting.
	Okay, look, you are endlessly fascinating to talk to, and obviously people...
	So I really, I don't mean to keep plying you with question after question, but it's almost irresistible.
	But I do want to shut this down now.
	We've been going too long, so I want to thank you so much for coming on the show.
	It's been a delight, and it's quite fascinating as well.
	And, you know, look, your book is out there for people that want to try to get it, and I hope that at some point they can still get it on a Kindle or something related to that, you know, in an electronic version.
	I hope that it comes.
	No, we call it the Kindle.
	Sorry, the Kindle went.
	It was too much trouble.
	I understand, but this could be something in the future if someone wants to help you out.
	Yeah.
	Other than that, do you want to give out any information where people can donate to you or help you out?
	Which is published and open is michael.mshrimpton.co.uk.
	I don't raise money by asking.
	I don't ask for charity.
	But if people want to consult me, I am available.
	I do intelligence consulting.
	I do legal consulting.
	I'm available for little things like movie projects and so on.
	I'm looking to do a little bit of media work.
	I've been approached to participate in a media project, a documentary, which I'm more than happy to do.
	I'm looking for a bit of voiceover work because I have a voice.
	It's a reasonable voice, not brilliant, I'm sure.
	I have a reasonable voice, and somebody suggested I'd be very good to doing voiceovers and documentaries, which sounded quite fun, reasonable rate of pay, and get a free lunch out of it.
	So, yeah, I said, yeah, nothing ever happened.
	I think they were probably lent on.
	It was an agent who acted for some very big names, and I suspect the agent was warned off.
	But, yeah, it's the sort of work I'm looking to do.
	And speaking.
	I love speaking and looking to do some speaking engagements.
	Absolutely.
	Well, and I'm hoping we can have you back.
	If I'm paid, I expect to give something in return.
	I like to give value.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Well, you would be.
	So anyway, thank you so much for coming on the show.
	We'll stop by and try to bring you back in the future when things progress because you're always interesting in your analysis.
	And I hope people will read your columns in Veterans Today.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	So you take care and have a great night because I guess it's getting late there.
	It's getting kind of late and Michael needs his beauty sleep, yes.
	Okay.
	So you take care.
	Thank you, Gary.
	You too.
	All right.
	right.
	Bye-bye.
	Okay.
	So that is, that's Michael Shrugged and quite a fascinating guy, as you can see.
	I am going to be having Debra Tavares on my show next week.
	She's a fascinating woman, an excellent researcher, and I think she's quite well known for her investigations into the smart meters.
	And other things.
	I think she's also investigating water usage and water and that story.
	And we're also going to be talking about the fires in Northern California.
	She lives in Northern California.
	I believe she's still up there.
	And a really fascinating woman.
	So she'll be on the show next week.
	The day is the 25th.
	I think that's the Wednesday.
	And then on the 24th, I'm going to have Ben Emmeline And he's going to be talking about the psychic.
	Her name is Helen Duncan, who was actually basically framed by Churchill and with the help of Ian Fleming, as the story goes.
	And Ben wrote, made a documentary about this story.
	And that was to keep her, because she was an amazing psychic medium, To keep her so that she wouldn't reveal their plans for D-Day.
	That's ostensibly why they had her jailed on false charges.
	And so that's a fascinating story.
	We're going to be delving into that.
	That'll be on Tuesday.
	And I'm not sure who else is coming on.
	I know at the end of the week I am due in Yelm, Washington.
	To speak at the Yelm UFO Festival.
	And so I'll be there on the flying out on the Friday and being there on the Saturday and Sunday of that weekend.
	So that's actually almost a week away.
	So thanks for watching and As always, and some interesting questions, good questions, and some good people in the chat this time who had some knowledge I could see.
	So that's very nice.
	And so please do come back next week and watch my shows.
	And this will be going on to my main YouTube channel after we shut down, as soon as I can get it up over there.
	And so thanks again for watching.
	Take care.

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