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June 19, 2018 - Project Camelot
01:22:25
KERRY CASSIDY LIVE AT BASES UK WITH CAROLINE STEPHENS AND MILES JOHNSTON
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
This is Project Camelot at the bassist studio, and we are with Kerry Cassidy, who's being interviewed by Caroline Stevens.
Welcome, Project Camelot, and welcome, Caroline.
You're on air.
Thank you.
Right.
That saved me some work.
Welcome.
Thank you.
To the UK. What did you make of your journey over here?
Oh, well, I come here a lot.
So it's pretty normal.
Second home?
Well, I don't know.
It's kind of a love-hate relationship with Britain, which goes back quite a ways, even to past lives and so and so.
So...
I have been interrogated on the way in a couple of times by the customs, so that doesn't endear them to me.
What do they have issues with?
That's a good question.
The work I do is crossing over into interviewing people that have very controversial points of view.
And I, in some cases I agree with them, in some cases I don't.
But they are predominantly, I guess I've become very well known for whistleblowers.
And I specialize in whistleblowers from Above Top Secret.
And that means that they are scientists, engineers, people in authority, upper echelons of the Illuminati, people that have been working in underground bases in the secret space program, and scientists then in some cases have worked 40 years for the secret government as we know of it.
And so that makes me a controversial figure.
So we've got something in common then, because just very recently, our Home Secretary announced that people such as myself might now be classed as right-wing terrorists.
So, because we're Brexiteers.
Right.
Yeah, we, two years ago, this week, we actually voted to leave the clutches of the European Union.
Yes, I'm very aware of that.
And we wanted to escape the tyranny.
Mm-hmm.
Two years on, and we're actually now more closely integrated with the European Union than ever before.
And I feel that.
I don't know what your perception is in California.
You must be perhaps looking at us and thinking, what is going on over there?
Is anything going on over there?
Well, you know, we see the mainstream news.
Of course, when I'm here on the ground, so to speak, dealing with people, then I get a different point of view.
But I have friends here and I've been coming here and I interview people from here all the time.
I do a yearly conference here in Watford, which is called the Awake and Aware Conference.
And I have very good speakers, actually.
Miles Johnson is one of them.
That's me in the background.
And let me say that this is not supposed to be an interview with me so much as a conversation, really, with the two of you and me as well, and bringing in the different audiences, hopefully, from the States, whoever manages to see this, and then, of course, the British audience and wherever else we can go in the world.
I know on Facebook, I've got a lot of American friends.
They're real, true patriots.
And they're really, really interested in knowing what's happening over here.
And they're very familiar with the term Bilderbergers, because you mentioned Watford.
And I remember that was the first Bilderberger conference that I actually took any interest in.
And that was held in Watford.
And I seem to recall they used about, was it three police forces to...
Helicopters, dogs, satellite dishes, sharpshooters.
I was there.
I spoke.
I spoke.
David Icke spoke and Alex Jones.
And as it happened, they tried to prevent me from speaking.
What were you going to talk about?
I prevailed upon them.
Well, everyone who knows Camelot knows what I would speak about.
I mean, I spoke about the sort of imbalance between what's going on on the streets, the Illuminati who are running things behind the scene.
So in essence, you know, when I say the secret government, we're really talking about a unity between...
Americans and Brits.
It's said that Brits have the money and that Americans have the might or the weaponry.
So that's what comprises this sort of joint.
And of course you've got the dark magicians on both sides of the sort of aisle and Satanists and Nazis.
So this is...
I mean, it paints a dark picture.
But the one world government, the new world order, is going to be made up of these people.
And there is...
I forget what they call it.
There's five countries that are sort of on the...
Loosely speaking, the Caucasian side of things.
And then there are other countries that are sort of added into it.
So you've got, I think it's US, UK, France, Germany, who else?
Australia and New Zealand.
That's more than five.
And then the secret government also does involve Russia, ultimately China, you know, and India and so on.
So it becomes you can think of the United Nations as sort of the nucleus of the secret government in some ways.
But the weight in the United Nations is different than it is in the real secret government.
So you're much more going to concentrate on, you know, the United States.
Again, might is right, and so they have the weaponry, right?
And the Brits and the Americans are like this, so you really can't separate them.
It may seem separate because you live in a separate country, but everything that I get, and I mean, I interview people from Britain all the time.
Some Americans, of course, are expats, live in Europe and various places, people that I interview again.
But I'm also known for having traveled the world with a camera, Interviewing, in essence, whistleblowers.
So let's say Julian Assange and Edward Snowden are, they were known to make the word whistleblowers known to the public, but we were doing Camelot before them.
And in fact, I have emails from From Julian Assange back in the day and I wouldn't even be surprised if he would admit to being somewhat inspired by Project Hamlet because we really pushed the envelope many years ago.
It's now been about twelve and a half, almost thirteen years in operation.
I mean whistleblowing takes all different forms from, I remember working in a bank and somebody whistle blew and what the bank, they couldn't get rid of that person immediately.
What they did was they put them through one of these interdisciplinary situations, these internal disciplinary situations, and I think it went through four rounds, and the employer basically takes the notes down and gathers all the information from that person.
Basically works out how important they are, what they can do to get rid of them.
I mean, that's just starting from, you know, your employer can be a little empire in itself, can't it?
To going to big governments.
And it's all about empires and having power over somebody else, the control.
You've got to do as you're told otherwise.
Yes.
Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
In essence, the whistleblower becomes the target instead of the topic that they're whistleblowing about.
That's right.
And, of course, Snowden knew this better than anyone because he, as the target, who was whistleblowing about something very specific, which is the surveillance of us, right, and warning us as a society, so we should be actually honoring him as opposed to, you know, threatening to throw him in jail...
Because our intelligence agencies have pushed the envelope and gone way beyond their initial remit or whatever you want to call it.
And of course, Kennedy was killed because he realized that.
And he warned us.
Eisenhower warned us, who was heavily involved with them.
You know, so this is what we're really talking about.
We're talking about Intelligence agencies and the whole surveillance state, the New World Order, kind of taking over and using us as guinea pigs.
And Snowden was the tip of the iceberg.
Camelot had been talking about the surveillance technology going way beyond even the level that Snowden has revealed up to this point for many years through whistleblowers.
So my whistleblowers, some of them have been killed.
Since you've interviewed?
Yes, since they went public.
And others have had to go back to work for the state to save their own lives and the lives of their families.
You know, Bob Lazar is a very well-known whistleblower who came out, you know, before Camelot was formed and told the truth about Area 51 and various things.
Could you explain what Area 51 is to the audience?
Oh no.
Really?
Yes, really.
Area 51?
Yes.
Okay, that's really going back.
It's not Room 101, but Area 51.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I mean, Area 51, I think that, you know, I don't know, the folklore is out there, you know, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, let's start there.
I mean, we're talking about a place where they have high technology, Uh, underground bases.
And, um, Bob Lazar reported this.
And then he said he went to work on a UFO. And so that was the story.
I mean, this is, you know, I mean, X-Files, all of this has been mainstream news for quite a long time now.
And X-Files was, you know, an incredibly successful program.
Yeah.
Uh, they were given information from the secret government, in essence.
Some things that they wanted out there.
And some things that obviously they were told not to say anything about.
And since then, Hollywood has been churning out sci-fi movies that contain a lot of the things that I would say are absolutely real.
In other words, it's not science fiction, it's science fact.
It's not conspiracy theory, it's conspiracy fact.
There are conspiracies.
Two or more people do get together and plot nefarious things every day of the year.
And so it's naive to not know that.
It's naive after 9-11, for example, not to know that your government is out to get you.
Well, that's an interesting point, actually, because still probably in the UK... I would say if you spoke to somebody in the street, most of them, the majority would still believe that it was a terrorist attack.
Really?
Yes, really.
It's frightening.
Well, you know, our information, I mean...
It's interesting.
I have, let's see, close to 700 video interviews on YouTube.
I've got 150, let's see, no, 198,000 subscribers to my YouTube channel.
Wow.
And I have over 58 million viewers worldwide.
That makes me, what, like a small television station?
I don't know.
But you know what I'm saying?
In other words, we have a following.
This is not, people are not as dumb as you're making them sound.
So I understand that people don't understand that their government is out to get them, but the governments lie constantly.
Someone would tell you even back in the 60s that politicians lie.
So how far is that?
Brexiteers still think they're going to get Brexit.
And I keep saying all the way through, as soon as Theresa May, a Remainer, was appointed as the Prime Minister by the Tory grandees, despite the fact that she had really nothing to do with the referendum, apart from turning up to a couple of street stalls with a Remain poster.
People believed that she was going to deliver Brexit.
They still say we're going to get Brexit.
And I say, look, the devil is in the detail.
You look at these details.
Why is it that we've signed up for a Canadian super deal?
Which is like TTIP. Do you remember the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership?
And everybody was taken to the streets, all through Europe, saying, well, we don't want TTIP. What is being rolled out throughout Europe?
But TTIP, this gives the power to the global corporations.
This 5G. I've just recently interviewed a guy called Mark Steele, who's a guru on 5G. And I had a couple of people write to me and say, Caroline, I think you've really got it wrong this time.
You know, it is just way off the scale.
And by the way, these are my initials, BSC, etc., etc.
It's the people who had the initials after their name that kept saying to me, oh, no, you've got this wrong.
But to me, the 5G seems quite obvious.
If you've got phased arrays above your head, you know, they're so powerful.
I mean, you must have come across 5G. Oh, absolutely.
And, you know, I've done interviews about this as well.
I mean, you know, it's a big story.
But I want to get back to this Brexit thing because, you know, it's interesting to me that you think that it may not go through or, you know, that they've sort of...
Since the time that it passed, right, by a referendum, by a vote, that they're reneging or something, stepping back off that platform.
And you were a campaigner in that way, right?
So you better than most, I guess, would have followed that story through to now.
So where we are now is there are rumblings, I'd say, in the press sort of saying, well, should we have another vote?
Like, why?
Is there a reason to have another vote?
In other words, was there a problem with the first vote?
And so these are the kinds of things you get into.
Was there nefarious goings-on?
To be honest, I think voting is rigged.
It's always rigged.
I would be highly surprised if Brexit vote wasn't also rigged.
Call me trifle cynical at this point in my career, but I would say that nothing happens in the mainstream, what I call the mainstream, which Brexit certainly is, without the What we call the Illuminati, the powers that be, whoever you want to say is in control of this planet, deciding that it serves their purposes.
So what we're looking at are individuals that have artificial intelligence.
Beyond Cray computers, which is old technology now, but basically we're talking about quantum computing.
We're talking about this D-Wave, you know, Geordi Rose, if you have, you know, he's on YouTube talking about the D-Wave computer, how you can stand next to it, it can read your mind, how it's going into the fifth dimension.
So we're really talking about a level of surveillance that, as I said before, Snowden never has revealed.
So in a certain sense, I won't say he's a limited hang-up.
I do believe he's a very good, caring guy.
But I have to say there are levels that I've been told by whistleblowers.
That goes so beyond and 5G is part of it.
You see, so I haven't forgotten your question.
You know, basically what we're saying is that's part of, see, the Internet of Things, in other words, that 5G is going to involve, you know, it's embedded in all the things around us, right?
So that those things are going to be bouncing signals between them.
And I have a whistleblower called Captain Mark Richards, who's been in jail for over 30 years, who was framed because what appears to have happened, he was framed for a murder he didn't commit.
But on top of it, he didn't ever do the murder, even they would say.
He was supposedly the mastermind.
So two younger men supposedly did the murder.
But in reality, this was, of course, an intelligence operation to keep him off the street because they look into your future using certain technology, very sophisticated technology that probably involves quantum computers, etc., and they decide what you're capable of, what your abilities are.
That's why they track your children from the day they're born so closely.
And so what we're talking about is that he was tracked and he was a very rebellious military guy.
So he was highly involved in the American military.
He worked for the Navy.
He grew up in a, you know, military family.
His father was, you know, a high level officer in the Air Force.
And it was seen that Mark was not only rebellious while he was working for them, but that he was going to eventually go against their rules.
Think for himself in ways they didn't, of course, want a military person who rose through the ranks to get to.
So he got to the level of captain.
Now this is going to, if you have a conventional audience watching this, they're going to kind of have their minds blown.
But he was the captain of what is in essence a starship enterprise.
You can think of it that way.
So a very sophisticated ship that was going interstellar.
And this is his testimony.
And I've been interviewing him for eight times now.
And my interviews last anything from two hours to four hours, as long as they let me stay in the prison.
I am only allowed a tiny little pencil because anything else is considered a weapon.
His wife is there with me and him facilitating the interview and she's a lovely person, Joanne Richardson.
She's out on the circuit talking about him and has been for years in his case.
And he's been in prison for three...
Over 30 years, yeah.
And she even married him while he was in prison.
Wow.
Yeah.
So, you know, but again, he's got a military lineage in his family.
So we're talking, you know, there's a certain level of respect you have to give to a person or a family that is giving their, you know, family members who are dedicating their lives to the military.
And his father was a very famous within the military, went by the name of the Dutchman.
And all the intelligence services in Britain are watching this and will know what I'm talking about.
And they may know of him.
You know, he's the kind of person, you know, he went to garden parties at Churchill's house, for example, back in the day.
Now, he was a child.
His father would have known Churchill, right?
So this is the kind of thing that I deal with.
And the bottom line is that, you know, to get back to the 5G, he told me a story.
In the context of my interview.
And I said, tell me about artificial intelligence.
What do you know about it?
And it was the one area where he was most reluctant to talk.
He would talk about aliens and all his interactions and his battles with alien races.
And I understand that that might be beyond the pale for your listeners.
But nonetheless, that's what he talked about.
And it's all on my website for those that are interested.
And, you know, what happens is he said that if, for example, a car, any kind of car really, but even let's say a more modern car, but We'll have AI in the engine.
It will drive by a military base.
The AI in that engine can jump the same way 5G is already talked about being rolled out.
You can appreciate they don't roll out anything that they haven't already had for a good 10 years in the secret above top secret area, right?
So the AI will jump from the car engine to the computers on the base To the telephones.
They even say to things like toasters, mechanical, anything mechanical.
And I'm sure, you know, there have been sci-fi movies made about this kind of thing.
But the reality is that's what 5G is.
And in essence could infect a base and basically begin to take over, to bond with the various smaller individual like the AI that runs your bank, the AI that runs the banks in America versus the AIs that run the banks in Europe, talking to each other.
And then what you get is like a battle between the AIs.
Not all the AIs are going to get along or agree.
And then you've got alien AI, because it's said, what Mark says is, no race becomes spacefaring without developing first artificial intelligence.
And of course, this is where humanity is now.
We are creating artificial intelligence of our own.
But that doesn't mean artificial—and even Geordi Rose, you know, this software engineer who's kind of a salesman, really, who's gotten involved in, you know, creating this quantum computer, right, called D-Wave.
Have you heard of them?
No, but I've heard of Geordie Rose.
Okay, great.
So go on to YouTube and just put in his name and watch him speak.
I think he speaks on a TED, you know, there's TED seminars.
Oh, TED Talks.
Yes.
So I think it's a TED Talk, if I recall.
And it's like a 20, you get the 20-minute, you know, download.
And he's saying, you know, this thing can read my mind.
I'm standing next to it.
And really, any scientist who really knows their stuff will tell you time and space is an illusion.
So just because you're standing next to it doesn't mean that's the only time they can read your mind.
You get me?
So in essence, they can read your mind probably wherever they want to go.
So you've been trapped.
Yeah.
So this is what we're talking about in terms of what we're up against, what humanity is dealing with.
And what's going to happen, in my view, is that we're going to learn to outsmart the machine.
Because, in my view, humanity, what we are reinventing the wheel, you know, this vessel, this sort of brain-heart complex that we, you know, soul, that goes back to source, let's say.
It's still beyond your quantum computer.
We are beyond computers.
We're amazing.
But we just don't know it yet.
We're unfolding our abilities.
I was watching that video a few days ago and the guy was saying, if you love and hate at the same time, no computer can do that.
Right.
But humans can.
It's interesting.
You know, people think that we're kind of like up against a wall in terms of surveillance and what they have abilities that we don't have and computers can, you know, quantify and figure out all kinds of things.
You have to ask yourself, if that were true, then why do they bother to surveil us?
Why don't they just lock us in this corral you call a city and throw away the key and walk away?
Then we would be no longer interesting to them.
See, we're still interesting to them because we are unpredictable, because we have this thing called emotions, and emotional life is something that computers are not capable of, right?
So that heart and mind...
That creates an emotional nature, which is an emotional intelligence that, of course, IQ tests never measure because they don't even know what it is.
And there are many scientists that will agree with me.
In other words, that's why women are so powerful, right?
Because of our emotional intelligence.
We don't need to know mathematics, right?
That you can learn by rote, as far as I'm concerned.
Sort of elevated form of emotional intelligence in which we can suss out a situation non-verbally, you know, instantaneously.
See, it's quantum by nature.
It's not linear, you know.
They reckon actually that it'll be the women rising up that will take back control of our country.
Right.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised.
You know, which isn't to say there aren't dark women, you know, women that are working on the dark side and for that and so on.
But, you know, so this is the kind of scenario that we're really talking about.
Now get back to Brexit, right?
So it's interesting because I do believe they're self-serving.
So if we look at the situation from the point of view of A new world order that wants to see their plans succeed for humanity, then I think it behooves us, every single one of us, to start thinking the way they do, to understand your opponent.
They view you as prey.
They view you as cattle, as sheep, as being easily led, let's say.
Now I think that paradigm is breaking down right now as I speak.
Brexit may be, you know, the vote for Brexit is part of that.
Even Trump getting into power is part of that, believe it or not, because Hillary was rigging the election.
I have back-channel information, believe it or not, from my whistleblowers that say, you know, so the people behind Trump then re-rigged it.
So you had actually two people hacking the election, you know, ones from each side.
So Hillary had all those emails, didn't she?
What's happened to those?
Well, God knows.
But, you know, Hillary is very deep in the secret government.
Yeah.
So...
You know, I have a little bit different view of individuals in this scenario because I see them as part of a larger plot.
I don't think targeting individuals as personalities is really where it's at.
So in other words, she was still taking orders.
That's important to understand.
You know, and a lot of people, even the dark side, would prefer you only to go, oh, you know, Tony Blair, you know, didn't know what he was talking about.
Well, Tony Blair was told what to do.
You know, Clinton is told what to do.
May is told what to do.
There you go.
So it's naive to stop at that level.
You've got to go above that.
And you might have to go above that.
In other words, you really have to look at it as the big picture so that you understand how we're being manipulated.
And on the long term, think of the Chinese.
They look at...
A plot to basically rule the world from a very long view.
They see it going back thousands of years in every Chinese dynasty and so on.
If you read the I Ching you start to understand the way they think.
And I have.
You know, I studied Eastern philosophy.
I studied Buddhism, you know, Taoism, you name it.
Zen.
So, and I meditated.
I connect all my chakras.
I've had multiple samadhi experiences.
So I studied these kinds of texts that don't kind of get to the West much.
Although it's changing.
People are starting to understand when I say what I just said.
It's not Greek to most people.
China has got the social credit system already, hasn't it?
11 million people are facing an impoverished lifestyle simply because they're classed as lower social class.
They can't now travel on public transport.
The telephone calls are interrupted.
Somebody intervenes and says, are you happy to continue speaking to this person of a lower social credit class?
Yes, this is what's happening now.
So you can see they want us to have a cashless society.
Because that's where your control is.
We've seen banks where the machines haven't worked over the weekend.
Something happened just recently, one of the major credit card companies, and people weren't able to pay their bills.
Can you imagine if you have no cash to fall back on?
And that's what they want.
They can control everything.
Right, and they can cut you off if you're doing certain things they don't like.
I mean, you know, to get back to me being interrogated at customs here in Britain, you know, I'm a law-abiding American citizen and I come here as a tourist, really, and also because my boyfriend lives here.
Well, forget the fact that, you know, we've been together over five years, but even after the first year of coming here, they wanted to know when we're getting married.
Why is that their business?
Seriously.
You know, this is the kind of thing.
But they actually stopped me.
So you have all these people that, a lot of which are immigrants, coming from other places, right?
And supposedly America and Britain are supposed to be, you know, hand in hand.
Yeah.
I'm a well-known journalist in the alternative sector in America, right, with the kind of audience I've already talked about.
And so you would think I'm a known entity.
Do you know what I'm saying?
They don't have to interrogate me at customs.
They already know who I am.
I've been coming here for years, even before the last five years.
I've been coming here ever since the beginning of Hamelot.
So what they said to me, and I was here over Christmas, believe this or not, for a two-week span of time, not a long span.
But they noticed back in my passport that I'd been here a lot over the last few years.
And so they start asking me questions.
They take me away from that podium into this little corral area, make me sit and wait.
Now I've been on a ten-and-a-half-hour flight, right?
So you're a little tired or whatever.
Mm-hmm.
And they took me out to this.
Then they got this woman.
Then they got this man.
Then they started to threaten me that they were going to take me to a room and interrogate me.
Which, see, they don't know.
I mean, those people didn't know what I do for a living.
So if you tell me you're going to take me in a room and question me, to me that's an interview and I would just enjoy that, right?
But what they did, they took me all over the airport looking for my suitcase.
When they found it, then right in front of all the people that are Filing in and out and being released to go get their suitcases and leave.
They took the entire suitcase, every piece of content out, and started to examine it very closely as if I'm some kind of terrorist, potential terrorist.
And you have to say, who ordered this?
Why did they decide to do that to me?
And it was just an intimidation tactic.
What happens is I have...
Now, I'm not positive what happened, but I was told by one of my whistleblowers, who I called.
I called a couple people.
I called Michael Shrimpton, who's a barrister, who I've interviewed.
And who is warned the British government of a possible nuke attack, which turned out to be legitimate according to at least the NSA, the American Intelligence Service.
But they threw him in jail anyway.
So he's a barrister who's very awake and aware, what I call awake and aware.
And he basically tried to help me by putting me on to somebody who dealt with customs and so on.
Because I'm saying, you know, and it was three hours that they were doing this.
So I'm saying, you know, they're delaying me.
Can you help me get through this?
And then I called a contact I have that's associated with intelligence agencies in another country.
And it turned out that first he said, oh, I can't do anything for you.
And so I was really sort of angry because I know he has contacts, right?
That he can do something.
And then I found out later because someone somewhere in that process made a phone call.
And all of a sudden they walked over to me.
They handed me back my passport, which they kept.
And they allowed me to go.
And they said, you're free to go.
And they never made good on their interrogation of me.
They never brought me into that room and did that.
You know, they did search on my stuff, but at some point they got interrupted.
And since then, I haven't had any major interrogations going through customs.
So I don't know if I'm now a known entity.
And they've given a hands-off.
God knows when they'll treat me like they did Snowden or the journalist who interviewed Snowden, Glenn Greenwald, I think.
No, is that his name?
I'm not sure.
Anyway, you know what I'm talking about?
They interrogated his partner.
This is British, the British customs.
I've never been treated like that by any other country.
I can tell you that.
We have more surveillance in this country.
Yes, Britain and America are supposed to be allies, you understand?
But we have a really strange system here now because we're pleading austerity measures on the police front.
In this particular county, we're going to lose yet another 25% of our police force in the next couple of years.
And yet, nationwide, we're only now tracking down something like 5% of all burglaries, the actual criminals.
It's becoming anarchy.
Anybody can do anything here now and not get caught, and the good people get put away.
How does that work?
We just had a recent chat put away, Tommy Robinson.
Exactly.
No, this is, you know, and I was hoping to talk with you guys about this because, you know, Miles as well.
I want to bring Miles in the conversation.
You know, I don't mean to, like, dominate this because I want to hear.
The Tommy Robinson thing is really interesting.
And it's also the fact that they supposedly put him in jail on mortgage fraud, which is bogus.
It was on a mortgage application, supposedly.
That was a A few years ago, yes.
And this is what they try to do.
They try to dig into your past to find some insignificant something that allows them to then get away with locking you up.
Refresh my memory, but why is this man being detained in jail right now at all?
Well, I think the important matter was the fact that he was put away without a jury.
Exactly.
And this is becoming quite commonplace in the UK. I mean, we are the home of common law.
We exported it to America.
We exported it to Australia.
It's all over the world.
And we, you know, we prided ourselves on the fact that we were the most democratic, judicious place on earth.
But in actual fact, the more you delve...
We know that so many children now are removed from their family situation behind closed doors, secret courts.
As I say, Tommy Robinson, there was no court for him.
I know of a lady called Melanie Shaw who was a whistleblower.
Now we go back to the whistleblowing.
Melanie Shaw was a lady who lived in a Nottinghamshire children's home.
Nottinghamshire Police have the worst reputation for being honest, shall we say, in the whole of the country.
And she was put away in the end.
Her video link from the court to where she was broke down.
But they tried her in her, effectively, her absence.
She was put away.
And despite the fact she was whistleblowing, she was alleged, I think, to have set fire to some garden shed.
She's obviously been found to struggle mentally now, I think, with all the stress because she was being taken to the bathroom in prison, escorted by male warders.
They would leave the door open.
When she was, you know, using the facilities.
I mean, that is, it's enough to send anybody.
So forms of torture harking back to the Nazis.
Well, what was she saying?
She's a whistleblower.
What was she a whistleblower for?
Because in the children's home, she was actually, she witnessed judges and politicians grooming children.
And so she whistleblower on that situation.
So are you talking about pedophiles?
Yes.
This is a British terminology.
What do you mean grooming children?
Pedophilia.
So she was a witness.
She went to the police about it.
She was moved eventually to Gloucestershire Prison, which is quite close to where I live, and tried to organize a group of people to stand outside the prison to sort of protest for her release.
And what happened was when the authorities got wind of the fact that people were taking an interest in her reason for her captivity, suddenly, because we were getting the local MP on board, suddenly she gets moved to a prison in Cheshire.
So the idea is you get moved around.
So it takes a while for people to catch up to find you.
You're only allowed so many meetings a month.
When you write to somebody who's a prisoner, you actually have to put all your details on the envelope.
So basically, the authorities can open a file on you.
They might never have heard of you before.
But then suddenly you're in the spotlight.
Well, actually, that's what happens when you watch my stuff.
Just kidding.
No, not really.
You know, the fact is, people say to me, you know, are they going to know who I am now if I come to your conference?
This has been going on for a long time.
In other words, tracking people.
Well, I mean, anybody who stands for Parliament, especially in more extreme parties like I stood for in UKIP, those are the parties that they're particularly watching.
So, yes, there'll be a file on all the parliamentary candidates.
And the people that follow you.
Yes.
And vote for you, right?
Yes.
So this is, yeah, incredible stuff.
Well, you know, I do want to angle on this pedophilia issue because it's major at this time.
It is.
Right?
And in America as well.
So, you know, and Canada and really the world, Thailand.
I watched a documentary on the BBC. I think it was BBC in the plane on the way here.
You know, the people that were doing the investigations kind of didn't live up to what they were faced with.
And given that it's a very complex story, this whole, you know, pedophilia thing, it's like an epidemic, but it's certainly like an epidemic at the upper echelons of power.
And this is what really comes through.
I was going to say that was the thing about the Tommy Robinson.
He was exposed in the Muslim grooming gangs, but we have white grooming gangs as well.
We have MPs in Parliament.
In 2016, the allegations are that 164 MPs in 2016 were on the official sex offenders register.
That's extraordinary.
I mean, to your audience around the world, they will find that really hard to believe that MPs could actually be on the sex offenders register.
Let's clarify this.
I was talking to my British partner about this so I could get it straight.
An MP is an elected official.
Is that correct?
Yes.
I don't understand how a person can be on the sex offender list and still be keeping their position, their office, You know, they've been voted in.
Why don't they lose that standing?
It would be like a congressperson in my country, I think, being accused, which, of course, is very possible.
But if they're actually on a list already, that means they were convicted.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
That's unbelievable.
How does that even work?
We've had situations.
An MP has disappeared for having various parties with rent boys quite recently.
What's happened to him?
We don't know.
Investigations ongoing?
Who knows?
Right.
Well, wasn't it Jimmy Savile that was completely backed by the BBC for ages?
And they knew full well what the man was up to, right?
I mean, Hollywood is so guilty of this as well, so they're not immune, right?
And we have ongoing investigations in that area.
At this time.
You saw the interview that I did with John Wedger the other week, the whistleblower from the Met Police.
You know, what's interesting about him, I want to say, is that I had a whistleblower.
I spoke at a conference not long ago, really, I think in a matter of months, in Ireland, and I had a man write to me who was a member of the police force in Ireland.
Who is a potential whistleblower exactly like him, like this British man.
And he knew and witnessed all of this going on in the Irish government, in the police situation.
And he was about to come forward to me and testify.
And then he said he was being offered a great deal of money to shut up.
And he'd been threatened.
His family had been threatened, etc.
And he said he wasn't going to be silenced.
But I haven't heard a word from him since.
And this was probably a good six months ago or so.
So, yeah, I mean, it's, you know, kudos to that man because, you know, it's brilliant that he's coming forward.
And I listened to your interview and it's a very good interview.
He is, you know, very eloquent.
He really knows his stuff, right?
He knows the ins and outs of the whole scene that's going on.
He uncovered the fact that a lot of pedophiles actually live on the canalways.
Now, I guess you don't have so many canalways in America.
Maybe New Orleans, perhaps.
But...
In this country we still have canals all over the place and there are different regulations.
Each area covered by the canals is not properly policed and this is how a lot of the paedophiles are escaping through the canal network from one area, local authority, to another area.
Well, that's very interesting.
And I guess that's a whole area that one could look at.
And God knows what goes on in Holland and, you know, all of these countries that have those kinds of waterways.
But it is interesting to me that the focus that Tommy had on the arrests of the Muslims, right?
Yeah.
Who were part of, in essence, if I understand it correctly, something like 30 men who were involved in child trafficking.
Yeah.
I don't know if they were convicted.
I know they were accused and going to trial or whatever, and he was trying to report on that.
So what I find interesting about that is how...
This is kind of a case where you can sort of learn to back up the audience and look at it from a higher point of view.
So what if these people are hired...
By, in essence, what is probably a predominantly white upper class echelon that are partaking of the children, you know, through, you know, whether it be sex trafficking or pornography or whatever it is, these men, these Muslim men, Are probably lower income, working as sex traffickers, making money, but who are they hired by?
This is the question you have to ask.
Not so much focusing on them, because of course sex traffickers are all over the world of every nationality, and predominantly will be like pimps and so on, come from the lower levels of income, You know, they're put in a life of crime because they have no money.
I mean, it's a financial thing.
It's not like a desirable career path, let's say.
So you have these individuals who are coming to this country, England, who probably don't have the stature they even had in their own country as a Muslim living in one of the Middle Eastern countries, whether it be Indonesia, which is quite Muslim, a whether it be Indonesia, which is quite Muslim, a lot of Islam there, whether it be India.
What happens a lot of times when people come as foreigners to a country, they might even be quite sophisticated intellectually.
They might be doctors.
They might be lawyers.
They lose all their accreditation.
You know what I'm saying?
They're no longer qualified.
They have to re-qualify to be a doctor again here and so-and-so.
So you can see where even the...
Individuals who were schooled in those countries come here at a disadvantage.
They're instantly at a disadvantage.
So whatever, they're moved into these, you know, whatever they become, pimps or whatever they become, the men who are child trafficking.
But they're, again, coming from the lower financial echelons of society, and they're serving a master, in essence, that is a very wealthy elite.
Right.
And that's who you need to look at.
In other words, and then you need to look at who, you know, what is their vice, you know, the result of.
And that gets into a whole very interesting area.
Like, why would, you have to say to yourself, why would somebody who is at the top echelons of, you know, an elitist society who has all the Sort of accoutrements of wealth, etc.
When they can afford a high-class hooker, a sophisticated, very expensive, good-looking woman, why are they going down to this level?
And then you have to start looking at what is it they're getting out of it?
What is the special thing that's going along with it?
In other words, can you cure...
These men of this vice.
And that's really what we have to look at.
We have to look at where does sex trafficking, where does pedophilia come from?
And you look at even places like Thailand, etc., where it's rampant, even in Africa, etc.
Even without the very wealthy, you will have A certain degree of trafficking, and it has to do with the haves and have-nots.
So if you, as a woman, take away the financial side of it, you know, because here in Britain, women certainly understand the whole notion that women in Britain used to be groomed to marry a wealthy man, because that would be how they would succeed in life, and how their family would...
Yeah.
Right?
And there have been a million television programs showing how these women had to vie to get the favor of a man because he had the money.
It is a patriarchal society.
And that means you've got the haves and the have-nots.
And it was a sexual division, and still is.
Still, men make...
The most successful men at the top echelons of society are paid way more, even in Hollywood.
Males make more than female stars.
It still goes on.
And so that's where we're talking.
These are where the divisions are, where this stuff...
This is where it begins.
And then you take it on up.
So from there, you're talking about if there was not this imbalance, there would be no need for a family to farm out their children as sex slaves.
Because the first thing that you say, if you're completely poor as a family, right, and all you've got is yourself and your children.
Well, the child is the thing that appeals to these wealthy, sort of demented individuals.
That's the only thing you have to offer.
You don't have money.
You barely probably have your working ability, you know, and that's certainly been exploited to the nth degree.
You know, you probably work in a factory or a farm or whatever, you know, and people get older.
The only thing they have is their kids.
That's all they have to offer.
So you can see where this whole...
In other words, it's societal.
And it's even beyond that.
And it's being sustained by the government.
It's being supported by the legal system, the schools, the churches, etc.
Where's it been going on?
It's been going on in the churches.
It's been going on with the judges.
So you've got these judges who are presiding over these grooming gangs.
Right.
And a lot of them are into that sort of thing themselves.
Right.
Hence the Melanie Shaw whistleblower case, where the judiciary, the system, the establishment are determined to keep her quiet.
I mean, what happens with our politicians years ago?
I mean, we're in Wiltshire today.
Wiltshire's very famous for a certain MP, Prime Minister, who took us into the European Union.
Community, which then became the EU. And there have been allegations, there has been an investigation by the chief police of here, a guy called Mike Veal.
He investigated this in the last couple of years, and he has been...
He's vilified for, actually, in the mainstream media's opinion, of wasting taxpayers' money.
He's done it on a total shoestring, and sure enough, yes, he would have been interviewed had he been alive today.
And, you know, he's the guy who we can blame.
We have got to blame somebody.
He took us into the European Communities Act, passed that in 1972.
People were not asked.
And, you know, he'd been given specific advice by a guy called Lord Kilmer, the Chancellor in 1960, saying you cannot take Britain into the European community because it goes against our British constitution.
We cannot be ruled or governed by any foreign power or prelate.
And that's where, you know, now we've got a situation, we've got the government saying, We can do what we want.
We are sovereign.
Parliament is sovereign.
So now on these marches we're doing now to try to bring about Brexit, we want to send a message to the government saying, no, the people are sovereign.
The people will take back control.
Thank you so much for a riveting interview.
You've probably got a little bit more of an idea of what's happening here.
We're not going to take this line down.
So with all your followers around the world, I do hope that they will say their prayers for us.
Caroline, if you want to read off the screen any of the questions, there's quite a few questions.
Oh, I thought we only had five minutes left.
Well, it's a bit of a free format, but if you want to...
Jill Dando, oh yes...
Yes, all these conspiracies, those real situations where people disappear.
I reckon Jill was silenced.
Yes, she was silenced.
Anybody else?
Does anybody want to explain who Jill Dando was?
Jill Danda.
Now, she was trying to uncover...
I can't remember all the ins and outs about it.
She murdered very violently with a gunman.
Former BBC presenter.
That's the Facebook.
You've got on the screen there the questions on the right.
Okay, I don't see any questions, though.
I see...
There's comments.
Can you move down?
Let's have a look.
So, no question marks at the end of the phrases.
Well, I think the phrases are still...
Right.
Pedophilia issue is more important than redirection about Tommy.
It's the system is hell-bent on jailing him or censorship.
Shows how paranoid...
But the thing is, with the establishment, you can easily see, though, that...
I mean, Tommy Robinson himself has created division.
And this is why we need to totally focus...
On bringing down the British government and having a clean sweep.
Well, before we plot revolution, the whole point about Tommy Robertson is it's controlled opposition.
There's two camps on that.
What do you feel about that?
Controlled opposition.
In other words, a false flag opposition put in there.
He was thrown in jail for contempt of court.
It's not the actual crime that matters.
If you're in contempt of court, bingo, straight to jail.
Well, you know, the focus, again, it's always the focus on personality, right?
So he may be a perfectly well-meaning individual.
You know, I've seen him speaking briefly, so I haven't really studied him in depth.
But I can say, as I was saying, that again, what he was pointing the finger at was the rest of some Child traffickers who are in essence, happen to be Muslim, but they're not the only ones.
And they're, again, who are they working for?
Who are they delivering product, so-called product to?
And it gets into even...
That, I mean, you know, there's a very diabolical way of looking at a lot of this stuff.
And you wonder why one person is so popular, why one person gets the focus, why these Muslim men get the focus when God knows how many child traffickers are out there for them to nab, but why did they choose them?
Because they want to pull the race card, because they know that divides society, so that when you people want to get together, And supposedly demonstrate or do whatever, you know, on the street.
You're going to have divisions along racial lines.
And the race card is a huge, you know, way of trying to divide society.
It shouldn't be.
But, you know, whether it's lines of race or lines of financial abilities, you know, whether you're rich or poor, or whether you're male or female, you know, to get back to that.
So these are ways in which divided we fall.
That's the point.
And that's a really good point because that's why I try not to get taken by going down the Tommy Robinson route or this route or that route because it just takes you into a rabbit hole and it does divide and what we need to do is we need to unite against those echelons in society who are determined to bring us down and the only way we can do that whether the MPs are unwitting people It's the fact
they are supposed to govern us.
And so they're not doing a very good job.
They're not doing any sort of job at all.
That's all of them.
So we need to...
It's a pantomime, you see, in Parliament.
A lot of the stuff that goes on, they don't debate.
And when they do debate...
I mean, for example, we have really concerns about our fishing industry because of Brexit.
We want to take our fishing waters back.
You know, Britain prides itself on the fact that we're surrounded by water.
And so what does the government do but take evidence, contrived evidence, one can say, from witnesses who represent us staying in the European Union?
So you've got to keep looking and delving behind what they're doing.
And, you know, they have been alerted to this.
I have written to them.
And, you know, you're just ending up by you either don't get responses anymore.
And the MPs must know they're on their last legs because we will take back control.
But it's interesting.
Just to close about the censorship and control...
This next few days, in the European Union Parliament, they're discussing about internet censorship, about sharing posts, which effectively is going to mean that people like the Facebooks of this world and the Amazons and the Googles, they could end up by controlling us because they won't allow us to share information, like this video tonight.
We might be precluded from sharing this good stuff out there.
Kerry, before we really go into that, you're going to a conference in Spain shortly, and apparently you're running your own conference soon.
Do you want to talk about that?
Yes, I'm speaking in Barcelona.
So I'll be speaking in Barcelona in, let's see, I think it's around the 23rd, 24th.
I think the day is the Sunday I'll be speaking at the Barcelona conference.
It's about four days away, Carrie.
Yes, very soon.
It's this weekend coming.
Yes.
And then aside from that, I'll be holding my own conference here called Awaken Aware in Watford.
And it's quite a small venue.
Have you got any spaces?
Which is why I think we get away with it.
What?
Have you got any spaces for the Watford conference?
Can anybody get to that conference?
I think we still have some room.
Okay.
You know, and you can go to my projecthamelot.tv is my website or projecthamelotportal.com.
They both take you to the same place and get the link there for, you know, under events for getting tickets, etc.
And Miles is speaking, is he?
Miles is a speaker, yes, absolutely.
And, well, Simon Parks and Marie Wheatley, and we've got a great lineup and fascinating.
We're going to be dealing with the Pentrick UFO incident that happened in 2016 in Wales.
Yeah, that's very interesting.
Some fascinating speakers on that.
And, you know, and other wonderful speakers.
One of the first speakers we had at the MASH project was a Canadian girl called Amy Miller and she had a major encounter with a huge pyramid type object very similar to that case and I think it's also connected with the Welsh Triangle, that area.
Yes.
Well, it's fascinating because this was a pyramid-shaped UFOs, apparently.
And the British were shooting at it.
So you had military planes.
You had a woman and a man who were both witness to this, as well as other individuals.
Which is exactly the same as Amy's case.
People were brought out.
You know, it's a huge story.
It's actually as big as Rendlesham, which is quite a big UFO story here in Britain.
So it's going to be fascinating to have them talk.
And it's also interesting because the woman who goes by the name of Kaz, she is not what you call, you know, she wasn't a UFO buff or she didn't believe in all of that.
And she said this experience has completely changed her life.
And she's actually kind of traumatized by it because what she witnessed was kind of a battle between the British and American, even American planes were there, who had flown over her house and over the area and were all sort of there right before this UFO, in essence, Right in front of all of them.
And then there were other craft that came out of it.
And there was also some kind of crash near a hospital.
I mean, this is real stuff.
It happened, you know, it was filmed.
It's really...
You know, it's investigatable, you might say.
How do the authorities respond when people go to them to tell them about this story?
Well, that's interesting, you know, because she is traumatized.
She was told not to tell anyone.
She's actually visited by authorities, telling her basically to shut up.
And it's so interesting.
It fascinates me, one thing you have here in Britain, which is...
I have heard stories of mothers who have children who said they saw a UFO who have actually had their children taken away and then been ruled by your British courts as incompetent because they actually reported something that's real.
You know, in other words, even if you don't believe in aliens, our government has high technology.
Carrie, that's exactly what happened with Amy Miller, and she lost her child because of that case.
It's just, in this day and age, that, you know, the two-faced, I mean, it's just unbelievable.
It doesn't take much for the authorities to take the children away.
It's a business, because, you know, the social services, fostering, Well, but that gets into the pedophilia.
Children are a business, and not only that, they are tracking them.
And that gets into the whole sort of secret government and why they track your children and how they allow certain of them to move along and get high-powered jobs, and others are not allowed to do so.
And that's how they're, you know, dividing them, you know, as they grow up in society.
Moving up the ladder socially or not.
Yeah.
And these decisions are made very early on and they're charting their sort of progress.
So, you know, they're recruited.
Project Talent is a secret recruitment.
You know, turning your children into, in essence, super soldiers.
Implanting them with nano transhumanism.
You know, this is real.
This is not a casual thing going on.
And this has been going on Really, the Nazis were probably sort of primary in this area of investigation and learning how to mind control and program.
I mean, mind controlling Manchurian candidates, Individuals to program them to do what we call false flags, go out and kill somebody.
They're all programmed.
A lot of them say they heard voices before they committed these acts.
They're programmed, and we know they have voice-to-skull technology.
I mean, you know, it's a can of worms, this story that we're...
It doesn't just end any particular place.
So you start with something like children being taken away and how easy it is for them to do that.
And then why are they taking that child away?
And what is the person's DNA that makes them aware enough to see a UFO and even remember it because you can be made to forget so easily?
Mind controlled.
Have your mind wiped.
And then half of the society or more not realizing that there is even such a thing as, you know, other dimensions, other beings, thinking that the earth, I mean, all these multitude of planets and constellations that are really uncountable.
They actually are so egotistical as to think this is the only place that life emerged.
And again, that gets into the whole religious fanaticism, which has basically closed people's minds since they were children, to think only along a certain line.
And even the Catholic Church nowadays admits there are beings on other planets.
There's a question there from Giovanni, if you want to read that out.
Still my question, Kerry, are alien hybrids invading Earth as to why else would they want to look like us?
Well, there's an alien, you call it alien, but there's a gray-human hybrid program.
The grays are notorious, you know, the little grays with the big eyes and so on.
I mean, that's just like the tip of the iceberg in terms of other beings from other planets.
That's the whole point of the logo behind you.
Beings that look like us that are also walking around here and working with us, trying to rule us in some cases.
I just got back from Egypt.
If you look at the beings that are carved into the temple walls, you see that they have lion beings, alligator beings.
They're all standing on two legs in a humanoid form with the heads of other beings, bird beings.
These are the predecessors to humanity.
But there's also the humanoids and they're very tall.
So they've...
You know, it's such a huge story.
To get into alien hybrids, I mean, whether you're talking about the grey-human hybrid program, which greys have been abducting humans, taking their DNA, creating their own, so that they can live here on the Earth.
Kerry, there's a question in the chat room then.
When is the conference?
July 7th and 8th is our conference here in England.
Okay, we're getting a bit late here.
It's 21.53 hours, pretty summertime in the middle of Wiltshire here.
Any sort of...
I'd like to comment, actually.
Ben says the fishing industry is only a small industry.
Well, it is only a small industry now.
It didn't used to be.
That's what the power of the EU does to you.
Well, you have to look at also Fukushima and how Fukushima has put radiation into the waters and into the fishing industry worldwide, such that we are all ingesting a great deal of radiation when we eat fish.
But it's also in the land You know, because this stuff travels through the air, so you can't avoid it.
It's on the vegetables, it's on what we eat, it's the water we drink, etc.
So, you know, there's a huge modus operandi, there's a huge agenda here, and it gets back to the rulers, so-called rulers attempting to rule this planet.
Well, there's a change of guard coming.
Basically a humanity, what we call 3.0, Which is to do away with certain group of individuals that are over the age of, let's say, 50.
You're basically over the hill as far as they're concerned.
They're interested in your children because those are the ones that are going to repopulate the planet, that they're going to allow to live, and that they're going to Put through the chemtrails using nanotechnology and biology in various ways, genetic engineering, to create a whole different breed of human.
This is the motivation.
So transhumanism.
Well, I mean, the fishing industry has, you know, the fish ingest carrier bags, the plastic.
Right.
So you can imagine how, what we're eating.
We've had so many more cancers than we've ever had before.
That's not accidental.
Heavy metals, parasites, all sorts of stuff.
Have I got any messages over there?
Somebody mentioned that you worked for NASA. Actually, I was a contractor for JPL. I was writing on my lunch hour screenplays for Hollywood.
So yes, I did work as a contractor for JPL. What is the question though?
It's more of a usual question as a statement.
I'm not sure what the question is.
Who else is speaking at this great conference?
Who else is speaking at your High Elms conference?
The High Elms.
Okay, so we have Simon Parks, Miles, Maria Wheatley.
God, I'm going to forget somebody.
You know, the two people from Kaz and the investigator, actually, of that UFO incident.
God, I'm forgetting.
And Charmaine D'Souza, a reptilian lady?
Yes.
Very nice lady.
She's talking about shape-shifting reptilians.
You know, it's all on my website.
Sorry, you know, I'm really...
You must be jet lagged.
Yeah.
And where are you going in the next couple of days?
And is Steve Bassett going to be there with you?
Oh, this is the...
Well, I'll be speaking in Barcelona.
So there are other speakers.
Actually, I'm not even sure of the speakers in Barcelona besides myself.
I think John de Sousa, I think that's his name.
He's kind of a brilliant guy, and he's written a couple books.
I've interviewed him.
And he is, I believe, if I remember correctly, a former...
Police officer, I think it is, or either that or a member of the FBI. At any rate, he now is on his own writing books and is talking about the whole alien visitation to planet Earth.
So he'll be speaking, I believe, in Barcelona.
I'm sure there are lots of good speakers.
It's called the UFO World Conference, as far as I know.
And while you're there, I'm going to be up in Manchester, where Barry Fitzgerald is speaking.
He is talking about the...
There's a lot of stuff happening in Northern Ireland, a lot of cat mutilations happening over there, and Barry Fitzgerald will be...
He's a brilliant researcher into portals in Ireland, and he's going to talk about the Nazca Grays, What do you think about the Nazca greys?
Well, they're actually robots, and there's two kinds of beings.
The Nazca alien situation is really fascinating.
I've gotten quite involved in interviewing people that are remote viewing, and accurately, they remote viewed the site and what happened there with it many, many years ago.
And then Gaia, I guess it was Gaia TV, went there on the ground and found the very things that the remote viewers saw.
So they had confirmation, which is a hard thing to do when you're remote viewing to get actual confirmation that you are actually correct in what you're seeing, especially if you're looking in the past, you know, in the ancient world.
So that is an absolutely fascinating subject, and what you see is basically this alien kind of human hybrid being, alien human hybrid being, who was implanted.
All of the robots and her were implanted with a technology that in essence turned them into androids.
And that this goes back, in terms of timing, Thousands and thousands of years.
So that means that this planet was invaded by alien hybrids that were in essence having artificial intelligence as part of their body.
And so it's proof of that.
And of course it's being shut up.
I have a whistleblower who's told me he's consulting the government where they found these bodies.
I guess it's Peru.
And basically he has been told and he told me, in essence, the truth will never come out because they don't want the people to know.
What about Eddie Page?
She said something about Antarctica?
Well, Eddie Page is an excellent witness.
He's actually Pleiadian.
He's proving this.
He lived at Langley.
He and 32 other Pleiadian children who came here in a ship at the same time as the Roswell incident in 1947 were It's an absolutely fascinating story, and he's a brilliant guy.
And he actually escaped from the CIA with his documentation, hid the documentation because they knew he was discontented.
He was going to become a whistleblower.
And so they would do away.
You know, this is what they do with a lot of people that work for them.
They do away with their records.
This includes Bob Lazar.
They basically, it happened to Brian O'Leary, ex-astronaut who was supposed to go to Mars, who became an investigator of free energy, etc., Who's now passed on.
His life was threatened, etc., etc.
And a journalist in San Diego was fired for trying to write an article about this ex-NASA astronaut that was supposed to go to Mars, who's famous.
He's completely famous.
You can't disappear records of a famous person like that who's, you know, an astronaut candidate.
It's crazy.
And yet they try to do that.
So it's one of the ways in which they, in essence, discredit a person.
You know, then people fight over, where is evidence of their degrees?
They never graduated from college because we can't find the paperwork.
You know, and so and so forth.
So in Eddie Page's case, he was smart enough to find his documents, disappear with them, and make copies of them, obviously.
And I have some of that documentation, and he's coming out as a whistleblower.
He's written a book.
And that's being published very soon.
He came out back in 1993.
He had quite, you know, sort of a stir and a following.
Of course, not in the mainstream, but in the community.
You call it the UFO. International UFO Congress did a film on a magazine.
In Vegas.
And then he kind of went black, as they could say.
And he went on the run from the CIA. And then all the other...
Grown up now, there's 33 of them altogether.
They're Pleiadians.
Their blood type is O negative.
And he's traced the blood.
He's also spent a long time working with Zachariah Sitchin.
And really, I'll be talking about this when I give a lecture.
And, you know, I have all my documentation with me.
But go to projectcamelot.tv.
Read what he has to say.
He's the one, apparently, his group are the ones that gave the MJ-12 documents to the researchers.
And there's been a huge controversy now in this community for, I don't know, at least 20 years, I'd say, over the MJ-12 documents.
What are the MJ-12s?
Well, they reveal the existence of an organization that Truman put together called MJ-12.
That is all about handling the, in essence, alien problem.
In other words, MJ-12 started out as a group of 12 individuals.
You know, there are, had top military generals were part of it, and it still goes on today.
It's way more than 12 individuals, but it's, you know, the British are highly involved and so on.
So this is an organization no one knows about.
But there was documentation, you know, proving its existence, that a lot of people had said, some said it was fake, the documents were real.
There's a father and son duo, Ryan Wood and Bob Wood, and they have a website called themajesticdocuments.com.
Calmer.org, one of those.
And you can go on there and look at all the research they did.
They actually did what you call forensic investigation of the documents, trying to look at the seals and so on to figure out, you know, the typeface and whether it's real, it was typed on a typewriter at the right era, etc., etc., proving the existence of this body of individuals that...
We are involved and have been involved.
Some British, some Americans.
There may actually, at this point, there may be some Germans involved.
German agents.
DVD. Exactly.
The Dulles Brothers.
Okay, we're running very late, girls.
Yeah, sorry.
Okay, well, lots to look forward to at your various conferences.
Thank you so much for coming into our studios today, and I just wish you all the best, and hopefully we can chat again.
Absolutely.
And then we can give you an update on Brexit too.
I hope to hear more about that, absolutely.
Thank you very much.
And it's hello and goodnight from me.
I'll fade the girls out.
Thank you very much indeed.
This has been a Basis Project special for Stepping Stones, bringing an audience which otherwise wouldn't get anywhere involved with this kind of thing to be involved.
And I'm going to say goodnight.
And we're off to Devizes somewhere, a small town in the middle of nowhere.
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