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Dec. 15, 2017 - Project Camelot
01:32:37
MICHAEL TELLINGER - UBUNTU PROJECT & A NEW WAY OF LIVING
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and I'm very pleased today to have Michael Tellinger here with me.
And this is a real treat.
We haven't been in touch in quite a while, so he's been off doing Ubuntu, and we're going to hear more about that.
And so it's great to have you here, Michael, and say hello to everyone.
Hi everybody, and hello Kerry.
So nice to see you.
I haven't seen you for so long, and I haven't spoken for a while.
It feels like our paths have drifted apart, and here we are.
I'm very happy to connect.
Yes, absolutely.
Well, it's great that you're still doing the Ubuntu, and I understand that you're going to be doing some more investigation into stone circles, etc., and keeping that going.
So what we'd like to do is really explore both areas.
In whichever order you'd like.
And I want to say that Michael is a very excellent author, and he's written several books, which I don't have those in front of me at the moment.
But Michael, why don't we give you a preliminary kind of an introduction for those people who are not familiar with you and your work?
Thank you, Kerry.
Well, my first book is called Slave Species of God.
Which was then re-released a few years ago by Berenko Inner Traditions under a slightly different title called Slave Species of the Gods.
And the original title had specifically What some people thought a mistake in the title because God was spelled with a small g very purposefully.
So it was originally slave species of God, God with a small g, which I wanted to draw people's attention to the difference between God with a big G and God with a small g, or the gods with a small g.
And it worked very well.
Nevertheless, then I wrote a book called Adam's Calendar in 2007 when I discovered the stone circles and the ancient ruins of Southern Africa in a much greater detail than what I've ever imagined.
And that took me on a journey and a path of discovery that I never for one second expected.
And that was to expose and bring to the attention of the world What now remains the largest cluster or collection of ancient stone ruins found anywhere on Earth, right here in South Africa and also in Zimbabwe, which includes Adam's calendar, which we can talk about in more detail, and Great Zimbabwe in our neighboring country north of us, Zimbabwe.
And this research also led to the discovery in 2004 and 2005 already when I was busy working on slave species of God, A discovery of some deep, mysterious secrets or past of human history.
And that is that money did not exist in ancient times, as some people may imagine, but didn't really give much thought to it.
And I started to investigate the origins of money and where did money come from?
How did it suddenly appear?
Where did it appear?
And I found that what I believed to be true about money was not necessarily so.
And the fact that I discovered that there was a specific time in history where money suddenly appears as a complete and finished idea and philosophy and a tool of enslavement that was imposed at a specific point in our history, imposed as an ideology and a tool of enslavement.
And that then led to the philosophy of Contributionism.
What would a world without money look like?
How would things work if we didn't have money?
And I started exploring that philosophy and that idea and discovered that the African philosophy of Ubuntu was pretty much that kind of lifestyle where people lived in harmonious communities, looking after each other, caring for each other.
Loving each other and supporting each other instead of living in divided communities in fear of each other, the way we find ourselves today.
And I started to develop this philosophy called Ubuntu contributionism, which then also grew into a political movement.
As you know, it was actually your fault that I started the political party because you suggested that to me in 2009, I think.
And that led us on a very interesting journey of discovery.
To go into politics and only to rediscover what not to do and on an incredible explosion of support for the Ubuntu movement and the philosophy of contributionism around the world that in many ways took me away from our research of the ancient ruins and the stone circles and Adam's calendar and all that.
And because it just demanded so much time and effort and energy, and it was about a year and a half ago that I realized that I have to rebalance my life and bring back the balance of the research and the awareness of the stone circles and the ancient ruins and what I call the vanished civilizations of Southern Africa,
because with that comes the very important knowledge and discovery of advanced ancient technology which I have presented without any shadow of doubt to the world and we can talk a lot more about that.
So right now We are working with the Ubuntu movement, which is growing exponentially.
We have representatives and national coordinators in several countries, and more and more are coming on board all the time.
At one stage, we had 62 countries that people put up their hands to be coordinators for the Ubuntu movement.
That was obviously unmanageable for me because it's a really badly funded organization.
I drive it myself, mostly with my partner.
And I've started to spend more and more time in the last year, especially in spending more time on the research and the stone circles, which has brought a lot of joy back into my life because I must admit that the Ubuntu movement...
It took a lot of energy and a lot of effort and almost killed me.
I must say, I got quite sick some time ago.
Oh, my God.
Well, thank you, Michael.
It's lovely to hear all of that.
And I have to say, and I'm just kind of adjusting my...
A very bright window behind me, which is really bad, you know, for the lighting and all that kind of stuff.
So I just wanted to say that it's great to hear about what you've been doing.
And I'm sure that the Ubuntu movement was extremely difficult to kind of get off the ground on a certain level.
But it's kind of a re-education of people understanding Kind of the principles.
And before we get into everything else, if you wouldn't mind explaining, because I think it's really wonderful when you talk about how working together, how that we as humans, as creators, we create basically plenty.
And so we will have, there's some, you've written this in your book, I know, and you're better to explain all of it.
So can you explain how that works, how that you go from actually, some people think, oh, you're going to have, you know, we're based in a scarcity, we're a world of scarcity, but that's not true, actually.
No, that's not at all true.
The fact actually is quite staggering.
When you start exploring this, and I really would recommend that everyone that watches this goes on their own little journey of discovery, because when I started doing this in 2005, it became the most unbelievable, exciting journey of discovery to work and process What would happen to our world?
How would we do things?
And what I realized very quickly is that when we remove money from society, things improve very, very quickly.
Things improve for the better and not for the worse.
And we create a community and environment of abundance instead of scarcity.
It is completely opposite to what people make.
What money does, remember, money is a tool of control and enslavement.
So it is money and the corporate structures and the socio-economic system that's been imposed on humanity that has created the illusion of scarcity.
There is no scarcity.
It's just that food and resources and And technology and everything in our lives start to get controlled by corporations who release only as much as people can consume and buy.
So it's completely the other way around.
The moment you remove money from the system, You release the hurdle for people's natural potential to create, to invent, to share and to explore.
And that's the incredible realization that I reached.
And then obviously you have to start to figure out, well, how do we implement that in a world today?
And that's why it has taken 12 years to get us to where we are today, where we have a very solid and a very strong Plan of action and strategy, which we call One Small Town Can Change the World,
which has come out of a 12-year evolution of the philosophy evolving and getting stronger and getting bigger and It's reinventing itself all the time, learning from the political arena, learning from all our collective experiences of all the Ubuntu members and people that I've crossed paths with over the last 12 years.
And this has been an incredible journey to realize how completely It is a living philosophy, the Ubuntu philosophy.
It's a living philosophy that keeps strengthening itself.
The more problems you throw at it, the more it solves the problems and represents it as a solution for the people, by the people, of the people.
And therefore, it cannot ever be brought down because it's not my idea.
It's not my weird, crazy ideas by some left-wing, you know, liberalist or whatever that wants to change the world.
That's not that at all.
It's a philosophy that keeps strengthening itself.
And I would recommend that anyone who watches this, please go online.
And the quickest way to get to the nitty-gritty of it is to watch the One Small Town Can Change the World video.
It's only about four or five minutes long.
Just go to YouTube and put in one small town can change the world and you'll see there's about two or three different versions of it.
One is a shorter version, one is a longer version with an introduction, but it actually does present the full plan of action of how we can take a small town and use that small town as an example of turning that small town from a place of Misery or everything is failing,
the people losing their jobs, factories are closing, farms are standing idle, no one has any hope for the future, and how we can take that and turn it around in virtually no time into a place of abundance and prosperity.
And the simplest, most important thing that we do is that we start to cooperate and collaborate instead of compete against each other.
There are several other things, obviously, that we do at the same time.
One of the things is that we bring in our source of energy, our source of electricity.
And this is not some weird, crazy idea that we're going to...
We're going to still have to invent it.
We have a source of electricity.
We have an energy partner that has the capacity and can provide electricity for the one small town.
Anything from 1 megawatt up to 200 megawatts.
And this electricity partner is a well-established, well-recognized, and well-known inventor and has agreed to do this.
It's worth it to movement as the conscious mayors decide to take this path and change the destiny for their town and their people and themselves at the same time.
But we would not have reached this point, Kerry, unless I went into politics, as you suggested, in 2009.
When I went into politics thinking with a bleeding heart that We have to inject the virus of consciousness into the political beast so we can change the political beast.
And I spent four years in the political arena in South Africa, UK, Canada.
Even in the USA, we tried it a little bit.
And then Australia as well.
And even in Germany, we were going to try it.
And then between South Africa, the UK and Australia, we realized that it is not the way to go.
But we can talk more about that, about the lessons that we learned from the different things.
Oh, well, yeah, that sounds fascinating.
We could be here all afternoon.
So, you know, I wanted to know, you say you have an electricity partner at this time, and I know that it started, it's going around the world now, so...
What is, you know, there is that free energy component that I think you were working on, and I don't know, there were some interesting experiences around that, as I recall, and, you know, part of the problem here is if you have a pushback, it's because the system is That's already in place finds, you know, people withdrawing from that system and relying on each other as a threat.
So that's what you're really working against.
So you're not working in a vacuum where you just create a great idea and then people live accordingly.
You're working sort of, in essence, having to be a resistance against the system at the same time as creating a new system.
And I know it's like a new old system, but nonetheless, people have been taught to distrust each other.
So this is a system where trust is integral to it.
And also just understanding for people to understand that Free energy is, if it was to be released to the public and people were allowed to use it, which they are not now.
In fact, inventors have been killed in the past and they've been pushed to the side and stopped from releasing this information out there.
But the closer we get to any kind of disclosure, there's no doubt that they're going to realize that the Secret Space Program has been using So this energy,
which is being utilized in this underground, this deep state, as it's called by a lot of people now, is very, very much...
It's accessible.
However, it's not being allowed.
So you're having to do your system excluding that portion, I would imagine, unless you have figured out a way to use it without getting shut down.
Can you talk about that?
Yes, that's very important.
The reason I believe that a single inventor or an inventor with a small so-called free energy device has not released his or her product onto the market is very simple because most people that invent small energy devices Want to sell it and make billions out of it and so forth.
There are very few inventors that actually want to make their invention available and put it out on the internet and let everybody download it and make it for themselves.
But that's actually been what the Ubuntu movement, what I've been promoting and proposing to inventors and especially people that have created free energy devices.
I've been saying it very openly for many years now, saying, if you've invented something, put it on the internet, share it with everybody, because it will come back to you in ways that you cannot possibly imagine.
It has not happened yet.
And I'm now starting to understand, because of the journey and the path that I've walked through the politics, through, you know, traveling many countries, talking about Ubuntu and contributionism and this.
A new social structure free from the constraints of money.
I'm now starting to realize why that has not happened.
And it's very simple for me by now at this stage is because If everybody had access to a free energy device that they could buy on the internet, that's going to cause more bloodshed and more division and more chaos than anyone could possibly imagine.
And very quickly, the haves will utilize that opportunity to use that technology for their benefit and shut out all those that can't.
And if you have an energy device and your neighbor doesn't, already you're creating division.
So a free energy device is not going to bring a solution to the world's problems.
It's going to cause more chaos, more bloodshed, more division.
And those elite With ill intent, we'll abuse the situation for their own benefit at the expense of everybody else.
This is why it's taken us and the Iwanta movement and the evolution of the philosophy that has grown itself brought us to this point in time where already in 2014, already in South Africa, when I ran for president, And then again, 2016, when we decided that we can't go for the head, we're never going to win an election at a national level or a government level.
It's just not going to happen because it's completely and utterly controlled.
The elections are controlled.
The outcomes are controlled.
They know exactly which party is going to get how many votes.
But this is what I learned in 2014.
Then in 2016, I realized, okay, we're not going to go for the head, but we're going to go where it matters most.
We're going to try and win, and we still believe we can do it with politics and with elections.
So in the 2016 elections last year, in August, we went for one small town, but we were trying to win just one small municipality in South Africa, already on the one small town banner, where we decided we'll go for the heel and not the head, and go for what I call the Achilles heel approach.
Where one tiny little town, one tiny municipality, will change the way the entire system works.
Because the moment we are successful with that one small town, it will automatically expand to all the others because all the other people will want that same kind of success, which they are being denied of.
And we realized that even at the low level in politics, even trying to win a small municipality in the political elections, that didn't happen either.
And I don't want to spend too much time on that now because there are various reasons why it didn't happen.
What I realized then is that as long as we're in politics, we remain a tool and an instrument of division and opposition and conflict.
And we don't want to do that.
We don't want to be opposing anyone, resisting anyone, or being in conflict with anyone.
That is an old paradigm kind of way of thinking.
We're not a new paradigm.
We're co-creating a new reality.
And the Ubuntu movement must be, with the philosophy of contributionism, must be seen at all times as a movement that unites people and unifies people and brings them together and allows them to co-create a beautiful future of abundance and prosperity.
And we realized that we can do that without being involved in politics, after what we learned, by simply going after the mayors of the small towns.
Mayors are often elected.
They're not necessarily representatives of the political party or the regime that is in power.
And mayors are often truly real human beings.
And if we can find a conscious mayor and let the mayor implement our one small town strategy, that's it.
We don't need to be involved in politics.
We can talk to any mayor.
We're aligned with any political party, and we do not have to be seen as a threat or an opposition.
So that's, in a nutshell, 12 years of evolution, of learning, to realize how we use the tools of enslavement as tools of liberation.
And that, Kerry, is the most beautiful twisted bird of justice that anyone, nobody could have ever imagined, that money and the greed of capitalism I'm going to be the tools that undo the current system and destroys it.
Okay.
Well, I appreciate that.
And I am wondering, have you found such a person?
You know, because obviously they're also going to be at the control of the system.
And so...
I don't know the status of what you're doing, and I know that other countries, you say there are 60 countries where they're attempting to create this kind of a new way of living, let's call it.
And so I'm wondering, can you report on the status of your own efforts in this area?
And then also, if you get feedback from these other countries where people are attempting to do this, I'm not even sure if it's a city-wide, really, any cities involved because the word city might, you know, sort of preclude it being a jurisdiction of the state, so to speak.
So, in other words, this may be a community that has to go to some degree off-grid.
I'm not sure how you're determining that and whether or not that's, you know, in other words, it has to be off-grid or it can Work in sort of connection with the grid, but in a different way, like if you decide to use solar power as opposed to not and that sort of thing.
So could you talk, you know, for at least a short while as to the status of have you found such a mayor?
Has anyone else found such a mayor?
And are they able to operate in any form or fashion?
And can you use a city designation or do you have to actually use what is...
In essence, not a city, not, you know, even a town, you know, some, you know, what people would say, small community within a city.
Right.
This is really, that's a very important question.
It's a big question with lots of components to it.
So I want to come back to just to say that it's called One Small Town Can Change the World, very specifically the emphasis on town.
And after a lot of juggling, we arrived at a number of about 5,000 people being the right size of town.
Anything between 5,000 and 10,000 people would be a size of town that can be manageable and can achieve this and create an example of a great success story that can then create a domino effect to all the other towns.
Now, to do this, we need to find a mayor that is conscious, that gets it.
And we have found such a mayor already, so I'll talk more about that.
So people hanging on, this is really important.
We're not just talking about it.
We are now actually doing it.
We have one mayor and we have several other mayors in various countries that are talking to me already to start putting plans in place to implement the one small town strategy.
This is why it's really, it's an idea as time has come.
Mayors all over the world are desperate.
They don't know what to do.
They know their towns are falling apart and they have no solutions if they carry on thinking the same way they've been thinking all these years.
And this is why our plan of action is such a breath of fresh air for them because we come completely from a different perspective And bring abundance from investment, from technology, from healthcare, from growing of food, from people skills, etc.
I'll talk more about that as well.
To the town, without the mayor having to spend any money, without the mayor having to do anything.
The whole thing falls into place on its own.
This is why it's important that we do this in a town, and we call the town the community.
And I also want to stress at this stage that we do not promote the establishment of intentional communities, as you alluded to, and we might have to do it somewhere away from a town.
We've learned at great cost and personal trauma and drama and misery and tears that intentional communities do not work.
You speak to anyone anywhere in the world that has attempted to create an intentional community on their farm or a piece of land somewhere, it is a mess of unimaginable proportion.
Can you explain why is that?
Now, I can extrapolate in my own mind, but I think other people also may question this.
In other words, there are communities out there and there are people creating communities all the time.
It's almost like an instinct, I would say.
When times are rather tough, and the United States is no exception, we're entering very tough times.
In fact, civil war is probably at our gates at this moment.
So what people, you know, their reaction, their natural instinctive reaction is to You know, band together to find like-minded people, to want to create a community.
I mean, this sounds like your town, but it sounds like maybe the town is a middle step that still interacts with the greater whole.
Is this what you're saying?
It's the withdrawal from the whole that you become a target and that sort of thing?
No, I don't think you're going to become a target, and there's a very specific reason for that as well that I'll come to.
Because in essence, well, I might as well just spill the beans here, because at the moment our time becomes a success, the way that I'm alluding to here, is we then become an example of...
A capitalist success, a little town that's become incredibly wealthy, incredibly successful in growing food, in being self-sustained, having its own source of electricity, technology, healthcare, curing cancer, creating new technology, new materials, a town in which all of these things are possible.
Which is not possible anywhere else.
Suddenly this is all happening in this little town because we've chosen to do this with the guidance of the mayor and the support of the people.
So it's a top-down, bottom-up approach, and this is why it creates a very balanced toroidal effect from the so-called political structure or the chosen or appointed authority of the town and the people from the bottom.
It's a perfectly balanced system that we're creating here and that cannot go wrong and we could talk about that as well.
Why they're built in protection mechanisms automatically the moment you start this process and so you become a shining example of capitalist success and yet you're creating a platform In which money is no longer needed.
This is why I said it's such an incredible Burdick justice in its twist of the Burdick justice.
So what I realized is that while there may be several great examples of communities around the world that have been there for decades and They have not had an impact on the world, and this is very important to recognize.
These are just self-sustained communities that have big walls and boundaries around them, and it's like us, us, us, and we look after ourselves and screw everybody else.
So it's not a solution for the world.
It does not Threaten or does not bring down the current system in any way.
What the one small town does, it brings down the current system because it allows other communities to do the same through their appointed leadership, their mayor, their town councils, and that then becomes the appointed chosen path taken by their appointed leaders through the current political system.
This is how you inject the virus into the beast without getting involved in politics.
And that's why it's such a beautiful story and a beautiful thing that we can visualize and imagine and co-create ourselves.
And the other thing is that you realize very quickly that we don't need to find a piece of land and go and build homes and put in plumbing and sewerage and all that and build barns.
The communities already exist.
They're called towns and villages.
Everything is there.
All the infrastructure is there.
Everything you imagine is there.
All we need to do is let the people imagine a different way of co-creating and co-existing and collaborating and cooperating instead of competing against each other in their own little tiny towns and tiny villages.
People still competing against each other for everything.
It's insane.
Can you use an example of one thing?
In other words, you know, Does this exist yet in South Africa and have you put it into practice?
Or do you have one area of life within that town that takes into account these philosophies, is utilizing them and at the same time is able to maybe not use money to such a degree or something?
You know, in other words, is there a working model at the moment?
No, there is no working model.
Because if there was a working model, everybody would be doing it.
So this is what we're busy doing.
And this is why it's been a long and very painful at times journey to get to this point.
And not to be...
Stuck down the tunnel of this and that.
And it comes all the time.
Distractions come at you all the time.
And it's really important to focus on this because it is through this philosophy that is now only about two years old that we use the tools of enslavement as tools of liberation.
And that is so powerful, Kerry.
The moment people start realizing how powerful that is, it's like martial arts.
We use money.
For so many years, we've been opposing money.
Money is the problem in the world.
So, our natural reaction is that we've got to oppose money.
We've got to do things without money and live without money.
It's not going to work.
And we tried that.
I tried it.
We did that here.
We started a whole bunch of projects.
We got people involved and volunteers.
And let me tell you what, it is a nightmare of unbelievable proportions.
It does not work.
Because you never have enough.
You never have enough money to do anything.
You're constantly depending on contributions and donations and all that.
And that's when I realized that stop opposing the system.
But it took 12 years to figure this out.
And now, once you realize that we have to use those tools of enslavement, use the money, use the corporate structures, use the hierarchical system, use everything that was created to enslave us, but we change one thing.
And we change the competition element into cooperation and collaboration so that when we do use the money and we set up industry and we set up healing centers and technology and factories and whatever it is, growing food, we do it collaboratively.
And in cooperation together for each other, not working as slaves or corporations or government departments or businesses as slaves that pay us, that then use what we create and produce to sell to ourselves.
So that is the tiny little thing that we change.
So when we grow food, we grow food for ourselves, not for a corporation or for the government.
We grow it for ourselves.
When we create supercomputers, we create supercomputers for ourselves.
And so our little town, through setting up many of these kind of structures, whether it's building supercomputers or growing unimaginable amounts of food, whatever we don't use, we then sell to the outside community.
And it's that excess that we create that brings in the money, huge amounts of money, into our little town.
If you can just imagine, if we set up as a municipality, supported by the people, if we set up 100 businesses in our town, and each business makes half a million dollars a month because we've got 10,000 people giving three hours each every week.
And that's the fundamental, that's the foundation really.
It's called contributionism.
Everybody contributes a little bit of time.
So if everybody contributes three hours a week towards the system, everybody's got three hours a week.
First of all, you've got a very automatic and natural transition phase.
You don't have to start a transition phase or stop doing something and everybody has to start doing something else.
So you very naturally move into a transitional phase.
We bring in our own electricity device.
We implement our electricity system, and for everybody that contributes three hours a week, the first benefit they get is free electricity, because it is now our electricity.
We no longer have to pay somebody else for that.
So the electricity platform, and it brings me back to that very important thing, suddenly the electricity becomes a platform of unification.
It unites the people, because everybody gets free electricity, not just those who have money.
And you get free electricity by simply contributing three hours a week to one of the community projects that we decide we're going to start.
Whether it's growing food, creating a health center, creating new technology, new materials, whatever it is.
Now suddenly you've got a labor force of 30,000 hours a week.
You know how much you can do with that kind of labor force.
So our little small town It's going to create so much stuff that we can never use it all up.
So we're going to be selling a lot of stuff and that's where the flow of money comes into our town.
So we're not suggesting that we create an intentional community without the use of money.
We're saying we're going to make so much money in our town that we're going to be the wealthiest little town anyone has ever seen.
But we don't need to pay for anything because everything we do is free to ourselves because we're doing it for ourselves.
If you grow food in your garden, do you charge yourself for the food?
Of course not.
So if we grow food as a community, do we charge ourselves for the food that we grow as a community?
Of course not.
But we charge the other people when we sell the food that we don't use.
And that's where the money comes into our town.
So we use the tools of enslavement as tools of liberation on every possible level.
Okay, okay.
Well, that's a very good explanation and I think people will resonate with the possibilities there.
So, because we have limited time and I do want to be able to also go into, you know, what is Adam's calendar and the stone circles and why there are significant and how this also,
you know, reaches into the technologies that people Eventually could be using in these communities and around the world and there's so many wonderful things that you've found out about in your investigations as an explorer which has to do you know with sound the use of sound and and the magnetron aspects certainly the portal the creation of a portal and The energies in the various circles, etc.
So can you talk about, you know, in whatever way, because I know it's kind of a huge topic as well, but can you talk about, you know, where you're at with it now and some of these things that you have?
What have you come across in your investigations that really change the paradigm for people understanding, you know, ley lines and how they interact with the stone circles, why the stone circles are so important in South Africa and so on.
Yeah, thanks, Kerry.
It's important.
And just to remind everybody that's watching this that the Ubuntu movement evolved out of that research.
So it's inextricably connected.
You can't separate the two.
The one philosophy comes out of a deeper exploration of our human origins.
The straight stuff has been going on in the past that we know very little about.
And learning from that and connecting the dots from the ancient past to see how we can make sense of the insane world we live in today.
And that's generally what I talk about in my presentations.
So just to finish on the one small town issue is to answer the question you posed earlier.
Have we got a community or a small town?
And the answer is yes.
The first small town that we have a mayor that has officially now adopted it is a Canadian town called North Frontenac.
Mayor Ron Higgins has become a global star already.
He's receiving thousands of emails of support from people all over the world.
He's become a hero to hundreds of thousands of people already, and he's the first mayor that has actually taken this.
And when he presented the One Small Town strategy in a live Facebook presentation to the world, it was adopted unanimously by the town council.
So it is a huge moment in history that this has happened.
Since then, I've been approached by mayors in the USA. We've got several mayors in the USA. We've got a mayor in Australia that I spoke to two days ago.
We've got several mayors in the UK that are waiting to talk to me.
This thing is already creating a domino effect just by us We're putting it into that morphogenetic field.
We're actually, as we speak, we're co-creating this.
And that is the power of co-creation.
I've never seen it more incredibly presented as the simple idea that in less than one year, Manifest it into a reality because we launched the One Small Town strategy.
I launched it with a One Small Town video in January 2017 and by July 2017, I think it was the 7th of July, outside of Toronto, Canada, I had my meeting with Mayor Ron Higgins at which he told me he's going to implement this come hell or higher water.
So it was seven months that it took to implement this and actually manifest this idea.
Wonderful.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, very happy to hear that.
So let's come back to where this all started.
And that's what you brought to the table now and to the discussion.
And that's the stone circles and the ruins of Southern Africa.
And, you know, it's funny how...
Your journey takes you on a path of discovery.
And mine is like everybody else.
I'm on this journey of discovery and I just follow the river of life.
And that's the one thing that I've learned.
And sometimes you kick and scream and shout and you want to go there, but the river is going here.
And you realize that you can't beat it, and if you do go that way, it's going to be very difficult and tough, and eventually you're going to have to come back and get into the river of life.
And it's only recently that I really discovered what a big deal this discovery of the vanished civilization in South Africa is.
It is much more a bigger deal than I imagined for the last You know, eight years or so.
And because it remains, the stone circles and the ancient ruins and the vanished civilizations of southern Africa remain and is the largest collection of stone ruins found anywhere on Earth.
It's quite spectacular.
We have more than 10 million stone structures and often crusted together that cover entire mountains that run for hundreds of kilometers.
Never stop.
You've seen it from the helicopter so you know what I'm talking about.
Yes.
I just recently had a German tour group here and this was the first tour group that actually booked a helicopter ride.
And I'll never forget when the pilot picked me up and the first group of five people, we went up in the helicopter and I showed the pilot where to fly and his eyes nearly popped out of his head.
He said, oh my god, I can't believe this.
I've been flying here forever and I've never realized that this is something special.
I said, yes, this is all one giant ancient civilization as far as your eye can see.
This guy was so blown away.
That he wants to come back and bring other people now to show them these ruins from the air, because it's only when you fly above in the helicopter that you really see the expanse and the extent of it, and that it never ends.
Even though on the ground it might seem that it's not there, it is there.
It's just covered by soil and sand of hundreds of thousands of years of activity, whether it's the Great Flood, whether it's farming activity, whether it's town building or road building.
This ancient civilization covered vast parts of South Africa and Zimbabwe.
So it's a big deal because we know very little about the civilization.
That's why it's such a big deal.
And I also believe that there are some very strong clues that connect these to the activities of the Anunnaki on Earth in ancient times, and even in quite recent times, as far as maybe 10,000 or 12,000 years ago.
There's a very strong possibility that we might have an Anunnaki burial ground here, or one of the younger Anunnaki's, Dumuzi, which claims to It's said to have been Enki's youngest son.
Enki, one of the Anunnaki leadership or leaders or elders, whatever you want to call them.
And Dumuzi was his youngest son.
And it's quite possible that at Adam's calendar, Dumuzi is actually buried right there under what we call the stone altar and tree growing out of it.
You've been there.
You know what I'm talking about.
Yes.
So there's just so much spectacular evidence that the Anunnaki were here, that they were most likely responsible for setting up this vast civilization here, all these stone structures.
And it's got something to do with mining gold, but I'm also beginning to think that it has got far more, I guess, Staggering possible activities, like I'm beginning to think,
the past several years I've been thinking that many of these stone ruins were actually created for cloning of human beings and the new species of the lulu amelu And also for geo-forming or creating of an atmosphere, enriching the atmosphere with oxygen and many other activities.
I think the stone circles and certain clusters of the stone circles that sometimes take on slightly different shapes and forms may have had different purposes and different action or different activities or results that they were causing.
I even recently thought about the fact that they were possibly using water to do something with water and possibly sucking the water out of the rivers and doing something with the water in the stone circles because there's no other reason why some of the channels that connect the stone circles together run straight down the mountain into a river and end in a river.
So there's great mysteries here.
And the Venice Civilization of Southern Africa has opened the door to very exciting exploration.
Right.
What I'm doing here is I'm actually showing people a little bit of the footage of South Africa.
And I wanted to show them the helicopter flight, if I can, while you're talking.
Just because I think that would be fun for them to see.
And so that's what's happening.
I'm happy you've got it on tap, because I don't, strangely enough.
Yeah, no, I mean, it's all good.
I don't know if I'll...
I guess this is an inset of the helicopter flight here on the screen.
Not sure if it's going to broadcast properly.
But we covered...
The helicopter flight, we covered what is the tree for people that are watching this right now.
You might be able to see Michael talking to, this was a scientist Michael talked to, but basically this tree is where you think Damuzi, his remains may be.
If you remember, it's the special tree that's out there.
And again, you know, there are many reasons why I say this in my own research that led to that conclusion and then also very interesting information that I got from Kredo Muchwa, Baba Kredo Muchwa, who's really old and sick at this stage.
And I send him a lot of love and a lot of healing because he's had a tough life.
And I hope that the time that he spends in this realm is going to be peaceful and painless.
But Baba Kretemuthwa told me a lot of stuff, as you know, and shared a lot of information with me in the time that I spent with him.
And one of the bits of information was that there was an important ancient king buried under the tree, under the stones, and that stone altar was used as a place of ceremony and ritual for a long, long time, for thousands of years.
And even in the modern times when Kreda Mutwa was initiated at Adam's calendar in 1937 and then went back there several times for doing ceremony and rituals, walking down the ritual path and the ceremonial path that he pointed out to me that they had to walk down and perform specific ceremonies and different rituals at different places.
He told me that the path went from Adam's calendar all the way up to the stone altar where ceremony was held to commemorate and give honor to the important ancient king.
And when I asked him, well, what king is it?
You know, he just smiled and didn't tell me.
And it took several, at least another year or so and another return to credo to ask him, did you mean that it was, could it be Dumuzi, Enki's youngest son, and he just smiled and said, yes, that's who he believes, that's what he was taught, that it is Dumuzi's grave.
So there's a phenomenal history here, and a deep, hidden history that was removed from our human psyche by those that have written the modern-day history books, and we are rediscovering it.
For me, one of the most exciting parts of this discovery was the technology that I stumbled upon by sheer luck and accident.
I had no idea that I was discovering modern, advanced technology when I started collecting the torus stones or the donut-shaped stones and also the cone-shaped tools and the ringing stones that I've shown in my museum.
There are videos all over the internet showing the ringing stones and the cone-shaped tools, very important.
And now they have become the center of attraction by a growing group of scientists and researchers around the world that have started to realize that the torus stones and the cone-shaped tools together give us probably the centerpiece of very advanced technology that was used by the ancient civilizations Creating toroidal fields,
sound and magnetic toroidal fields, with which they could pretty much do anything they chose, and then being able to focus those sound frequencies and magnetic fields, specifically sound frequencies, into the cone-shaped tools that then results in creating a scissor beam that shoots out the tip of the cone, creating a very, very powerful tool.
Wow.
You can hear my dogs having a little battle outside.
Absolutely.
Well, you know, it is fascinating when you get into the technology and what the stone circles really embody and all the possibilities there.
And so I think, you know, what you discovered in terms of the sound in the stones and how that can be utilized is vital information.
I also think there was also the What do you call it?
The magnetron.
So, you know, a lot of people maybe, I think, don't know what a magnetron is.
They maybe don't necessarily understand that sort of a scientific term, if you will.
But the magnetron can actually be quite a...
Destructive device if used as a weapon.
So this is, you know, it's important.
Obviously, any kind of technology, if you use it in the negative way, it can be used as a weapon or in a positive way can enhance life, really.
So can you describe that phenomenon that these stone circles are in the shape of magnetrons, natural, you know, Being created purposely as magnetrons.
Can you talk about that?
Yeah.
So first of all, thanks for bringing that up because I forget about it.
You know, I've been talking about it for so many years now.
I forget about some of the key components of what it is that was discovered here.
And the magnetron was a very key discovery.
But before the magnetron even popped up, I started to look at the stone circles from the aerial photographs, as you know, and started to realize that they're very strange shapes, that each one is completely unique.
They're connected by these channels.
They look like little paths or roads that connect them together.
They have no doors and entrances.
That's really important.
Some people still think that they were built by humans as dwellings for people or cattle or animals.
No, you're mistaken, because the original structures have no doors and entrances.
And this is why we can conclude that they were not built as dwellings.
They were something else.
And much later, when they were discovered by more recent tribes and migrating tribes or arrivals from other parts of the world, people started using these original stone structures and using them as dwellings, of course.
And then they would create doors and entrances and turn them into dwellings for themselves or for animals.
And that's where you get the confusion coming, and our modern historians and archaeologists just have no idea because they can't imagine a civilization advanced technology hundreds of thousands of years ago because it's not written in their history books or their curriculum that they studied at university.
So it just creates a perpetual disinformation that then gets shared.
But the magnetron thing I came to after realizing that each stone circle is really a cymatic pattern.
Each stone circle is a representation of the sound frequency that comes out of the Earth at that specific point.
And this is why each one is completely unique.
And this is how brilliant this technology is.
It's so simple and yet so brilliant.
We know that the Earth rings like a bell.
The Earth gives off frequency all the time.
It rings all the time.
It never stops ringing.
So, whoever built it, whether it's Anunnaki or somebody before them or who knows, they knew that sound is the source of creation, that sound manifests magnetic fields, and moving sound creates magnetic fields, and moving magnetic fields creates electricity.
So they, in a nutshell, you got the sequence of creation, sound, magnetism, and the rest follows.
So what these guys knew is that if they just could harness the sound as it comes out of the earth and amplify it and turning it into magnetic fields, they would create electromagnetic fields and create whatever energy source that they wanted to extract out of it.
So by identifying a sound at a specific place and then backing the rocks along that cymatic pattern, when you take sand and put sand on a metal plate, put a sound frequency through it, every sound frequency has a very specific shape and it's called a cymatic pattern or the cymatic shape of that sound.
That you are listening to.
And this is exactly what they did.
So they knew how to identify the sound frequency coming out of the earth at that point.
They would then place the stones exactly on the cymatic patterns, which would then magnify and enhance the sound.
Through the quartz in the stones.
So it is the silica and the quartz that actually then acts as advanced technology.
Just like we use quartz and silica as advanced technology today, they were using it hundreds of thousands of years ago to create free electricity out of the sound of the earth.
Exactly.
Like Nikola Tesla.
I believe pretty much Tesla did what these guys were doing hundreds of thousands of years ago.
And so once I realized that the stone circles were cymatic patterns, And then I looked at some of the stone structures.
And it was actually an email that I got from an electrical engineer that said to me, listen, I've just looked at your book and I see some of those stone circles look just like magnetrons.
Have you considered that these could actually be, could have been created as magnetrons?
And I went back and I went, oh my God, this guy is absolutely.
And then we suddenly realized that many of the structures are beautiful.
You've seen them from the air yourself, Kerry.
They look like beautiful flower patterns.
They look like flowers.
And that's exactly what a magnetron looks like.
Like a little flower shape with these six petals around it, sometimes eight petals, and then a casing, outer casing, and then a channel that runs down the bottom out of it where the wires normally run out.
And there you've got your magnetron.
And here we have thousands of giant magnetrons built out of quartz, out of stone, very rich in quartz.
And these magnetrons would generate an unimaginable amount of power when they are active and in full state of activity.
In fact, I asked two magnetron scientists about how much power these magnetrons put out.
And one was in Glastonbury and one was in Boulder, Colorado.
And they both told me that a magnetron that size, about 30 meters or 40 meters in diameter, would generate more energy than all the power plants on Earth today.
I don't know if I've lost you, but since...
Sorry, sorry.
I just had something I had to deal with here in my house.
So, absolutely.
And I have to say that, again, this technology is really, really fabulous.
And I think you're quite right about Tesla.
I think that in essence it's not like he wasn't reinventing the wheel he was simply perhaps even on a psychic level borrowing from the what had always been utilized on the earth ages ago and you know I'm sure as a soul he had been here more than once and It is said he had some ET contact as well.
This is where it gets to, you know, also the notion of the Anunnaki and the off-world civilization that came here to the planet.
And, of course, there are many visitations by various beings, etc.
The Anunnaki part is a really fascinating part, of course, and this is what one of your books is about.
I do want to say that there is a genetic manipulation that happened during the time of the Anunnaki that was very crucial in actually changing the term.
Trajectory of humanity as it happens in some negative ways, but also possibly positive ways.
And we are overcoming some of those what we call frequency fences at this time that they put in To the mental sort of framework of humanity and so on.
There's also the reptilian aspect that is very strong.
I do think that Adam's calendar is the one aspect, whereas I think you've investigated very well the stone circles, I think Adam's calendar may be the one area where the mystery is deeper.
And that you haven't really been able to tap into all the potentiality there.
And, you know, there's pyramids in the distance.
I was showing that on the screen just a little while ago that, you know, you're aware of down in the valley.
And this is...
Adam's Calendar is a very spectacular, beautiful place.
And I'm sorry that it hasn't become a worldwide monument, you know, that people can visit like the pyramids, etc., because it has that, the potential to be that, as you appreciate, right?
Yeah.
Look, it's growing.
I also wouldn't want it to become like Stonehenge.
It's in a beautiful, pristine nature reserve.
And I think for that reason, it remains off the beaten track.
So it's good.
I like it that way.
Well, I think there is that reason.
But I just have to say, you know, in my line of work, the way I would view it, though, is it's such a powerful place.
And it, in essence, it is, I believe, you know, a portal, obviously, a sort of a time traveling portal.
And I think it has been used by that as that in the past.
And the shape of this, you know, the circular, very magnificent structure and the stones and the fact that it keeps time in a certain way, seasons and so on.
So there's a lot there.
And my sense as a psychic, whatever you want to call that, my intuitive sense is that there is under the ground a massive part of that structure that is undiscovered.
At this time.
So I think this may impart...
In other words, places that contain power, the powers that be always want to take over and sort of put into their own sort of purposes.
And it may be that, as you say, it's been secluded.
It's been kind of kept off the grid.
But it's probably because of its power.
The real reason is that...
You know the story of what we call the stone man or the standing stone that was removed in 1992.
I was fortunate enough to get photographs of that standing stone from the head of the photographic department at Pretoria University that used to go there in the 80s and photograph the place, not knowing that it was a place of high significance.
So we know that that stone actually belongs there.
We also have Christo, the guy that does the horse trails down, that actually saw the stone in place and saw them the day that they removed it.
So we know that the stone was taken from Adam's calendar and removed and then brought back two years later to put a plaque on it to commemorate the opening of the Blue Swallow Nature Reserve.
It's a real twisted, interesting story that, you know, how we nearly lost a very important part of the calendar and it was somehow saved.
And somehow we've got to get it back.
I'm not sure how that's going to happen, but I had some angels tell me that one morning we'll wake up and miraculously the stone's going to be back in a place that was taken out of.
And I'm looking forward to the day.
Wow, that's amazing.
So I hope that that does occur.
It is a stunning, stunning place and I hope that people, I wish that people would be able to visit it, but I understand that logistically it's quite difficult.
Well, it's It's a hike.
You can hike there.
But, you know, we take our 4x4s.
We can take anything up to 20, maybe 30 people there at a time.
Anything more gets too crazy.
And so I do organize tours, as you know.
I prefer smaller tours of maybe 10 or 12 people and that's it.
And not to desecrate the place and destroy it.
But also, just to remind those that are not aware of it, it's not just, you know, I called it Adam's calendar in 2008 when I wrote the book, when I was first introduced to it by Johann Heiner, who discovered it or rediscovered it by accident.
And, you know, we've got also great gratitude to Johann Heiner for having the vision and the eyes to see it and realize it's a place of significance.
If he hadn't seen it or discovered it, That we would not be here talking about it.
And then after that, when I started doing more and more research in my own work on it, I started, you know, spoke to Kredo Mutwa and Kredo burst into tears when I showed him the Adam's Calendar book.
And he said he never thought he'd see that special place again.
And that's when he told me he was initiated there in 1937.
And it's a very important place.
It's one of the most sacred places on earth.
And he also mentioned Sotilo Hills in Botswana, where I've been several times now.
And we're going again in March on our sacred sites tour.
And we referred to Adam's calendar as Inzalo Yelanga, or birthplace of the sun.
Where humanity was created by the gods to be the slaves in the gold mines.
So it's not something that is not known by African shamans.
It is the history of humanity and Anunnaki intervention or interference and manipulation of humanity and the DNA is well known among ancient or knowledge keepers of ancient knowledge and African shamans as it is known by other shamans around the world.
And here we are With a site which is possibly where some of the genetic manipulation actually occurred.
And that is quite spectacular.
Absolutely.
So, in terms of, you know, again, we've been going for a while, and I want to look into the chat and encourage people to ask you questions on any of the topics we're covering here.
But you did say that you had quite some experiences over the last few years.
It's been many years.
I actually have been to Adam's calendar, I think, if I count right, even four times.
And I spoke in South Africa a number of times, and we went on tours there and so on.
So it was really a delight, and thank you again, Michael, for hosting me and making all of that possible all those years ago.
And so at this time, is there any topic or experience from the past that you want to cover?
And then while you're talking, I will look into the chat and see if there's any direct questions that people would like answered.
My greatest joy is that the discoveries and the depths of the discoveries seem endless.
It just gets more mysterious and deeper and more amazing as time goes by.
You know, the significance or the realization of the significance of this discovery, of the vast Spanish civilization, 10 million stone structures or more, Adam's calendar, the powerful It's a machine.
It's a powerful machine.
Millions of stone circles and a giant energy-generating grid that generates unimaginable amounts of energy.
All of this together.
Then you add the Taurus stones, which we have now measured and have absolutely no doubt that these are toroidal energy-generating fields.
Toroidal field energy generating devices or tools.
And then the cone-shaped tools that are very powerful tools, especially if you can know how to channel your thoughts or your energy or your sound frequencies through your body and through your hands, you create Sazer beams out of your hands with these cone-shaped tools.
Now to some people this might sound like hocus-pocus nonsense, but those would be the uninformed and uneducated or ill-informed people.
Once they realize how powerful sound is and how we've had the ability and how we've lost that ability and how we're regaining that ability as this knowledge starts to come back to us and as we start to reactivate our own DNA. Okay, now I'm getting a lot of questions here, Michael.
So if you don't mind, I'll just ask you some of the questions that are cropping up really quickly.
At this moment, someone wants to know how can you activate the stone circles?
Say that again, how do what?
How do you activate the stone circles?
You don't have to activate them.
They activate it all the time.
They never stop creating energy.
They give us energy all the time.
The sound frequency that comes out of the earth vibrates the stones, and the silica in the stones connects the sound and frequencies, and the sound starts to move, and that moving sound through the stones, because sound doesn't stand still, sound moves, And that moving sound creates the magnetic fields.
And then the magnetic fields move and they create the electromagnetic fields, which we've measured.
So we've measured sound frequencies, incredibly high sound frequencies in the gigahertz coming out of the walls.
And what we actually, in essence, measure is the sound moving between the quartz crystals in the stones.
I think what they are also...
Powerful electromagnetic fields coming out of the stone circles.
Right.
But I think what they kind of are hinting at is the idea that, yes, if humans get into the circles and they begin to chant, for example, they're going to start a sound wave that will...
We'll go around, and also using those tools that you're talking about, the spheroidal, you know, the spheroids, you know, those...
The Taurus stones?
Yeah.
In other words, it is possible to create a magnetic field, and the field resonance can then go from stone.
We were talking about this at one point, going from one stone circle to another.
In other words, it can jump.
It's quite amazing, the possibilities.
And because these are like magnetrons, again, you've got a wave of energy.
And so it would be started by the sound.
And even if you pound in a certain pattern, using the sound of one stone on another, right?
These would be ways of activating it, I think, in the sense that how a human would interact with that, right?
Yes.
And, you know, you've had the experience of what happens to your body when you go into the strong circles.
People and Adam's calendar, people have their own personal profound experiences.
Some people feel nothing and some people feel an extreme effect on their body and they get emotional and so forth and so forth.
It amplifies.
It's like an amplification.
If you meditate in the stones, for example, it's going to amplify wherever you're at in your head.
I also noticed my own experience was that some of the stone circles are calming.
Well, others of them wake you up and don't allow you to relax, so to speak.
They're too stimulating.
So there is a difference in the shape of the circles because each circle has its own unique sort of shape, right?
And so it's the patterns of energy and how they affect us.
Yeah, so what you just described there is really the use of frequency to manipulate human emotion and human behavior.
Exactly.
So the stone circles do it automatically.
Some of them make you aggressive, some of them make you passive, some of them make you excited, some of them make you want to sleep.
It's just different frequencies that you encounter in that stone circle.
And I'm not suggesting at all why they were created.
I'm just suggesting that it's a clear indication how frequency can be used to induce that kind of behavioral change and mind control in humans.
And people experience it naturally when they go into some of the stone circles, the different effects that they have that they experience.
The other thing, Kerry, in case people have not heard this yet, is the very important, I guess, scientific evidence, we can call it that, that the one Taurus stone that I took to Nassim Haramein in 2013 When I flew out from South Africa to Chicago,
and when I went through Qatar, Doha International Airport, probably one of the most advanced airports, technologically advanced airports in the world, I was called off the plane because the tourist zone in my bag crashed the TSA security system.
And they delayed the takeoff of the plane because they wanted to know what was in the bag that caused such a severe...
Whatever it was that caused such havoc in the security office.
Oh, right.
And that was a great reminder for me how powerful the stone is, the Taurus stones are, and that they are actually, they create scalar technology.
And that was spectacular.
Absolutely.
TSA security.
We're proving that the Taurus stone is a real advanced technology.
Yeah, I think that people don't realize actually that the power in stones in general and then stones put in a certain pattern, there's a reason why they're put into circles.
So that gets into the whole vortex area, the idea of a spiral, the basic, basic, you know, in every sort of I guess indigenous culture uses the spiral as its basic unit of creation, if you will.
So that's very integral to what we're talking about.
And if you get into free energy, you're talking about counter-rotating spheres going in spirals again.
So it relates to free energy, actually, and it is a free energy device, these circles, right, Michael?
Yeah, exactly.
And the Taurus stones are just natural free energy devices, because what they do is they suck the ambient sound and the ambient noise into the center from both sides.
Like, imagine the donut-shaped stone, and you've got the donut-shaped stone or the hole in the middle.
But they do, just like if you look at the image of our galaxy.
It's a giant torus.
For those who have watched Thrive, they'll see that beautiful image that was created of the galactic torus.
It's exactly the same thing.
So the sound and the energy gets sucked into the center from both sides and it spirals in.
And as it meets, that's where it meets the zero point or the morphogenetic field, enters the vacuum or the zero point and amplifies itself.
Through the stone and beyond the stone and does the same thing.
So the sound frequency that's created by the physical stone actually creates a scalar effect of sound waves that move away.
Now, some research has been done with this already and a group of scientists in the USA actually used one of the Taurus stones and they trapped What seemed to be waves moving away from the stone when they did experiments in water and then froze the water.
And they found these bands, these different energy bands where the water froze differently.
So these frozen bands of water moving away from the center of the stone.
And that suggests that that indicates scalar waves moving away from the stone generated by the sound.
Absolutely.
You know, I think it's an area of research that's very, very rich.
And there's much more to be discovered there.
And I would say, Michael, you're one of the sort of pioneers in this area.
At least on the planet at this time, even if indigenous cultures really knew this, even intuitively they understood the power of the stones.
Someone is asking, how can I start Ubuntu in my small town of 300?
Where do I start?
Well, thanks.
First of all, thanks for that.
I would suggest first join, if you're in the USA or whatever country you are, first join Ubuntu, the movement, online.
And then so go onto our website and sign up so that you're on the database.
And then the best thing that I suggest is we're about to launch...
Our new strategy for 2018 and that is a three-point approach is one small town, one small farm stroke project and one small gathering.
So it's important that people don't just go off and start doing crazy things, want to be a hero with not enough information how it works and how we present this.
So We'll connect you to the people in your area.
We are going to promote what we call the regular meetup groups because that, we believe, is going to grow the movement very quickly.
It's one area we've been very bad on because, again, badly funded, you know, mostly funded by me, the sale of my books with some donations and funding from people from all over the world, but still mostly funded by myself.
And we don't have much infrastructure and so forth.
So this thing is growing and evolving organically as it can.
So one of our main activities for 2018 to grow the movement Organically and under control without it going crazy and toppling itself is to create these meetup groups.
And that I think is a really important place for people to go to or a very important activity because people everywhere, when people find us and they discover the Ubuntu movement, it's like they discovered their long-lost family.
Of people that they can talk to and they can talk to openly without fear of ridiculed or being laughed at and so forth.
So this is important and we need to grow this family and these meetup groups.
We're going to appoint hosts in different parts of the world and those hosts will then host a regular meetup group.
To which everybody can come.
It's going to be a place where you can speak openly, you can have a barbecue, drink some beer, watch some sport or whatever it is.
It's a place to have fun and interact with people, not a place to come and get heavy and talk about the destruction of the world and how dark the world is.
We want to do the opposite.
We want to actually bring people together in light hearts, light spirit, knowing that we have a solution for the problems.
We know the problems of the past.
We use the problems of the dark history as a platform of what not to do and something to leave behind and create a beautiful future of prosperity for everybody.
So these meetup groups are intended to be places of joy and sharing of information and knowledge and looking to the future of implementing a one small farm or one small project.
How are we going to do that?
And then learning and And learning from each other and from the Ubuntu book and the written material that we have, from all the experience that we've gained over 12 years, learning from that and then choosing the right person in your area to go and approach the mayor.
Talking about are there any mayors in the area that are real good human beings, that are true good-hearted human beings who want to do good for the world and for their community, and then choosing, identifying those mayors and approaching it from that perspective.
So I hope that gives you an answer to how do I start Ubuntu in my town.
Okay, I've just been showing your website so people can see it.
And then you want to maybe share the URLs that they are on my website on projectcamelot.tv.
If you click on this show, you can find those links.
There's also an Ubuntu festival coming up.
Do you want to talk a little bit about that, Michael?
Yes, that's the Ubuntu Festival coming up in South Africa.
We just had the first Conscious Music Festival in Kansas City on the 3rd and 4th of December.
And that was unbelievable.
And the reason we decided to do that is because There seems to be this chasm.
Once again, it just shows us how divided we are as a community and as a species.
You've got the music world, musicians, often very conscious and bleeding hearts and, you know, musicians that sing on thousands of stages around the world every year, singing songs of peace, love and liberty and freedom, and it has absolutely zero effect.
And on the other side, you've got the truth movements of people that share knowledge and information, and it has absolutely no effect either.
So now we've got the Ubuntu movement, which has used all this knowledge and information.
We've presented a model and a simple plan that I believe we're the only movement that presents a plan of action to get out of this mess.
And very easily, by the looks of it, as I've shared with you already, I want to bring these two together, bring the world of music and the influence of musicians and the way that their message is heard by millions of people around the world.
And the Ubuntu movement and the philosophy of Ubuntu merge the two so that we form a much stronger voice and a platform with which to help bring a new social structure and this new paradigm that we all are waiting for and working towards, that we are co-creating.
So the Ubuntu Festival is really a much bigger version of what we did in Kansas City.
It's four days of music, arts, consciousness, body, mind, spirit, music, dance, performance, presentations, workshops, yoga, etc., all together in a beautiful place called The Bud Blas Hot Spring Resort, which is not far, by the way.
It's about 45 minutes from where I am, Kerry, in the mountains.
It's a beautiful subtropical climate.
And, yeah, it's a spectacular place.
It sleeps about 4,500 people, camping, chalets, and also a hotel.
So it could be a really incredible event that can just grow and grow and become a platform to co-create this new reality for all of us.
Okay, now we're going to have to close this down pretty soon.
What I wanted to do is just get one last question from you, answer from you or whatever, in regard to just the current state of the world in South Africa and sort of what is going on in, would you say, can you make some general statements or whatever about what's the status of...
The relations within South Africa between the black and the white and the various colors, and is it turned into a more positive direction or perhaps less positive?
Is there a lot of turmoil?
Can you describe the, I guess, social political scene, if you will, in South Africa?
Look, there's no doubt that the global elite are using South Africa It's a new puppet.
It's a new playground for the elite.
There's no doubt about that.
I would probably describe it as turning South Africa into the United States of Africa They're doing their best to drive a wage between the races.
It's so obvious that there's an attempt to divide the race groups.
And this is coming from above.
It's not coming from the people.
It always comes from where it comes from.
So there are all these agendas going on that are causing some friction.
But I think the people have gone beyond that.
You know, that it's not coming from the people.
It's being manipulated from above.
The political regime, as you know, the ANC has become a dictatorship now.
It's a joke.
You know, the president can do what he wants and he can get away with it and steal money and do whatever he wants.
But that's coming to an end now.
We've got elections next year again, and the Winter Party will not be participating in the elections.
We have now pulled out of politics completely, so I just want to make it very clear that we went through it, we learned from it, and we now know what not to do, and we know where we can be much more effective as I shared.
And the effectiveness of what we started not even a year ago is unbelievable.
So, yeah, South Africa is a very interesting place.
And, you know, even here I've got one mayor that's waiting for me to deliver a presentation to him who loves the one small town strategy.
So even within this political regime where I believed, where mayors are appointed by the political party and not by the people, I didn't think that we'd find a mayor that would actually be brave enough to embrace this.
I was wrong.
It tells you how wrong you can be.
Well, that's good to hear.
It sounds like you've done a great amount of exploration and travel, both mentally, psychologically, and, of course, I know you travel the world as well.
So, just some parting words and also maybe anything coming up, any travel that you might be doing for people that might want to catch you in various places.
I think you said you're going to speak in England sometime in the future and so on.
Yeah, well, firstly, I'm starting the first research program, the Stone Circle Ruins Research Program.
I've decided that after all these years, I'm now actually going to make it a group effort and very exciting.
I've got the first group of 12 people arriving here in early January for a month research program.
So we're going to cover a lot of ground.
We're going to publish and record and film a lot of new information.
So that's going to provide a new body of information, which I'm sure you're going to be very interested in, Kerry.
Yes.
And I must say the people are very excited.
They're from all over the world, from Australia, USA, Canada, Europe, Turkey, Hungary.
So people from all over the world are coming here to join me in this research program.
And I expect to do Three or four research programs a year from now on, in between the other things that I do.
Then in March, I'm doing another Sacred Sights tour with my good friend Dean Loprini, Shaman Extraordinaire, and this is a big Sacred Sights tour.
It's sold out, so we can't take any more people in.
It's actually the biggest tour.
I think we've got 26 people going on this tour.
It's going to be a big group.
And that's going to South Africa, Zimbabwe, Botswana, and Namibia.
Four countries.
Oh, I'm jealous.
It sounds fabulous.
Epic journey of all the important ancient sites.
And then in April, we have the Ubuntu Festival at Bat Plaza Hot Spring Resort.
Then in May, at the end of May, June, I'm at Contact in the Desert again, and then a very short tour of the USA, after which I'm going to probably go to the UK, and we're planning a tour of the UK and Europe.
And possibly the first Conscious Music Festival in the UK in August.
And that's as far as I've planned.
But all of it will be on the website.
All right.
And join the michaeltellinger.com website and also join the Ubuntu Planet website so that you're on both databases and get the different information.
Excellent.
Okay, well, thank you so much, Michael, for being on the show.
And I think, you know, your information is out there.
And for people whose questions didn't get answered, I have to say that Michael has been interviewed by me several times.
So you can see those videos on my YouTube channel.
But he's also been interviewed really all over the world.
And there are many YouTube videos, I think, with you, Michael, correct, as well as radio shows, etc.
Yeah, but Kerry, I've got to, you know, give you a great thanks here because you were actually the first international journalist that took interest in me when I started talking and writing about the Stone Circle.
I believe the first person that gave me an international platform.
So thank you and deep gratitude to you and for staying in touch and contact us.
I see you as a close friend and give you deep honor and gratitude.
Thank you.
Thank you and I see you the same and I'm very happy that we've been able to stay in touch and connect, reconnect over the years.
So I'll let you go, and thank you again.
And it's been a lot of fun, and it's really a fascinating journey, and I encourage everyone to really check out Michael's work.
He's just got amazing, amazing stuff.
It's just never-ending, really, and you're really a powerhouse, I have to say.
Well, thank you, Carrie, and I look forward to seeing you in person very soon.
Okay, lovely.
All right, you take care.
I'm going to close this window, so goodbye.
Time for now.
Take care, everyone.
So that's the show for today with Michael, and he has...
So much information and there's so much information out there and I do encourage everyone to, of course, see my Adam's Calendar documentary with Michael as well.
So I'm just going to close this down here and I want to thank everyone.
For listening and for watching and I'm going to be doing a sort of a last minute show starting at 3 o'clock today, California time, which is actually in 20 minutes.
I'll be back on the air with Keith Hunter.
We are going to do an update with him.
about megalithic sites and some of the technology in them so it actually kind of works well with this last interview I just did with Michael Tellinger So I hope you can stay tuned for that, again, starting at 3 p.m.
approximately with Keith Hunter, and we'll advertise that out on Twitter for the link, etc., to watch live.
So thanks again for watching.
We had a fabulous interview yesterday, last night, with John Brandenburg, and I highly recommend that.
He's really on the cutting edge and really in the know, and he's written a fiction-based-on-fact book, It contains really the UFO cover-up and even has been prophetic in terms of seeing where things are going today.
So I encourage you to get that on my YouTube channel.
And that was just done a day ago last night, actually.
All right, take care and I'll be back.
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