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Nov. 28, 2017 - Project Camelot
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INTERVIEW WITH JOACHIM HAGOPIAN RE : PEDOPHILIA & EMPIRE
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Thank you.
Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I am here tonight with Joaquin Hagopian, and he's going to be joining us just a minute here, and I want to read his bio for you.
It's a very short bio, at least the part that I'm going to read and so Joaquin, go ahead and say hello to everyone.
You're on the screen.
Yeah, hi everybody.
And it's great to have you here.
This is a very, you know, important topic that people are absolutely, well, you know, very disheartened and fascinated by all the sort of disclosures coming out in this area.
And I want to thank you for writing the book.
And for all the good work you're doing in this area.
So I'm going to read your short bio.
It is on my website for those of you that want to follow along there.
And so we'll just put Joaquin here on the screen.
So Joaquin is a West Point graduate and former U.S. Army officer.
He has written a manuscript based on his unique military experience entitled Don't Let the Bastards Get You Down.
It examines and focuses on U.S. international relations, leadership, and national security issues.
After the military, Joaquin earned a master's degree in clinical psychology and worked as a licensed therapist in the mental health field with abused youth and adolescents for more than a quarter century.
In recent years, Joaquin has written hundreds of articles featuring on various alternative news sites, primarily Global Research, Sot.net, and LewRockwell.com.
He maintains a blog site at empireexposed.blogspot.co.id.
And that link is on my website, so if you're interested, go to the front page of Camelot.
And there's a lot more information there.
We've also got a link to your...
Well, I guess part of the e-book or even all of it.
I'm not sure.
You can maybe explain what you've got on there.
I see that...
I took a lot of this from Robert David Steele's website, and you can appreciate that.
So that's where...
I pasted all the links he's got, and those are pages, obviously, well, it looks like at least chapters, some chapters from your book.
So that seems to be what you did.
First 11 chapters.
Okay, great.
So maybe you can share with us at this point what sort of motivated you to write the book.
I know you explain it to some degree in your book, but for the listeners and for those that don't know anything about you, kind of your motivation, perhaps anything that triggered you at a young age or while in the military to pursue this line of research and also become a psychologist?
Okay.
Well, I'll touch on my West Point experience.
I was an individual at West Point and they do a brainwash to turn kids from high schools and prep schools into robots and simply do what they're told and do not think.
And I did not fit in real well.
At the end of my third year, they decided I needed to go and they ran out my demerits on a bunch of false charges and I ended up taking them Court in New York District Court and one for failure to allow due process of law.
One of our sacred guaranteed quote constitutional rights and so I was readmitted at the end of my third year.
I finished my final year and graduated and became an army officer.
I continued.
I made some waves.
I was blackballed in the army and so I fought while I was in the army too.
And eventually, I extricated myself from the military.
I learned that during those harsh years, I was a warrior, but not simply the military kind, as my father completed 20 years on the 7th of the World War II, the Korea War.
So I ended up learning that I was a warrior of the spiritual kind.
And so I moved on.
I always had compassion for other people and understood their problems and always came to me.
So it was kind of a natural fit that I would gravitate into the field of psychology.
I became a licensed therapist out in Los Angeles, working with the largest Department of Children and Family Services program in the country, Children's Protective Services.
I clashed with them because I tried to do what's right by my clients.
And the clients were, of course, youth and adolescent.
Many of whom I would say probably over half of my clients in my 25 plus year career were sexual abuse victims, many of them pedophile victims.
So I got an early experience for many years working with victims of pedophile.
And I continued clashing with the Children's Court in Los Angeles.
They, at times, would not even allow me to go into the courtroom because I was trying to stand up for what was best for my clients.
And when I saw that they made decisions that put my clients into danger and at high risk of further abuse by misplacing kids into foster care homes that were not safe, it was a very You know,
very challenging to try and work within that biggest CPS system in the country that is so broken and clearly the judges and members of that, the social workers, they don't always have the children's heart and best interests in mind when they make their decisions.
So that kind of gave me a very early compassion and passion both to Alleviate the damage and the abuse of sexual abuse.
And then I, so I spent a long time as a therapist in LA. And then I, you know, the post-911 years, I began realizing that the United States government is not our friend.
They are our enemy in that they killed 3,000 of us on 9-1-1.
It's definite.
There's no indisputable kind of BS you can try to prop up with a false narrative that they put.
It's got so many holes, but we won't even go there because it'll take too long anyway.
But that got me questioning all the movement of America as the aggressor with the Bush administration and Cheney.
Clearly, it was a neo-colonial, seven countries down in five years that General Wesley Clark stumbled upon while visiting the Pentagon.
And so, yeah, the government was out of control because it was completely controlled by the ruling elite that are bound to basically exploit every corner of the globe Steal all the natural resources from the people around the globe,
put them further into economic slavery, and certainly not in the best interest of any human being living on this, certainly a human being and a continent.
As I got further into it, I learned that there are large pedophilia rings that have been operating For really many many years people don't realize that at least 30 years go back to the scandals and I'll get into some of those scandals that were going on 30 years ago and it just kind of went underground from people's consciousness and then
resurfaced of course last October, November, and December, with the release of the John Podestia emails, and then came the Pizzagate, and then that got the ball rolling for Pedogate, which is basically the world scandal of this trafficking ring network that's been going on for many,
many years on this earth, and it's carried out by the ruling elite, the people that are, we're talking about The bloodline families, you know, that go way back for centuries that, of course, probably the most visible one is the Rothschilds, but it's all of them.
It's the Rockefellers.
You see, it's the Bushes and the Clintons.
I mean, there was that very corrupt dynasty that they had in power right through Obama.
And so, yeah, that's what, when I started doing articles on Pizzagate, I think my first one was beginning of December of last year, about a year ago, actually.
And I found that my regular news outlets, like Global Research, who I'm on very good terms with Mikhail Chostodosky, he's a great man and I admire him.
He gave me my start, by the way, as a journalist, several years ago, four years ago now.
But he wouldn't print my material on Pizzagate slash Pedogate.
And neither did Lou Rockwell.
And I respect these guys immensely.
They're great, and they provide such an important service.
And they are the truth, for the most part, better than, you know, 99% of basically the independent alt news outlets.
They're very good.
That's why I was with them.
But they wouldn't go with Okay, but did they?
The only one that did, they stopped on that.
They printed my article.
Yes, and that's actually Laura Knight-Jedzik's website.
For those of you who know Project Camelot, you'll know that I actually traveled to her home in France and interviewed her many years ago, and that's a very interesting interview, and I highly recommend it.
So that's Laura Knight-Jedzik, and SottNet, S-O-T-T dot net, a very good news site as well.
She's got a lot of contributing writers, Take it, you're one of them.
Yes.
Okay, now I want to ask you why Global Research, I respect their work.
They do some great stuff out there.
And this other news outlet, which I'm not as familiar with, why did they give you a reason for not wanting to go down the road of Pizzagate?
Well, you'll recall that at the same time that Pizzagate was coming out and then they had that false flag where the idiot shows up with a gun at the pizza joint.
Yeah, that was the mainstream news, mainstream media was using Pizzagate and basically Discredit all alt news.
And that's where the whole concept of fake news and, of course, Google and Facebook and Reddit and all the rest of them all joined and said, okay, we've got to start censoring, basically.
And the whole game is they want to eliminate the news, real news, truth, from the public.
That's what every totalitarian regime does.
They make sure that the people do not have access to the truth.
And so that was a product of that.
And in the nervousness of the alt-news business, there were a lot of editors at these sites that were afraid that they could be taken to court.
But I had Mikkel tell me I couldn't even mention George Sorrows.
And this is one of the biggest creepy...
Monsters on Earth, and with all the damage that he's done, and he's got so much damage that has even yet to be discovered and covered.
But I couldn't even mention his name because Mikhail Chosodovsky had to deal with lawsuits and, you know, libel and legal stuff.
So for that reason, they wouldn't touch it.
It was too risky for them.
Now, thankfully, had the courage to And I put out probably about three or four or five different articles about Pizzagate.
And I don't like the name Pizzagate because pizza, all right, we know about the symbols and all that.
I won't even go there.
But the big problem is that there's a huge slave network of children that they're cutting up, eating, drinking the blood, and having sex with.
And that's Got to be covered and I don't care how disturbing it is if you look the other way of course it's your option you do not it can be so disturbing that you don't want to close be near it and you don't even want to focus on it and I I guess I respect that but if everybody had that attitude in response guess what it would only get worse and it has gotten worse over the years You were about to say something.
Sure.
Well, thank you.
Well, I would say, you know, that's accurate.
What I want to know is how you got your sort of...
You wrote a book.
Did you write the book after you wrote those articles or had you already been writing the book?
Okay.
Yes.
All right.
I was writing...
I think I wrote about a total of six or seven articles on Pedogate during the course of April I think and then Jim Fessor approached me and of course he's a colleague and he's been around forever and he's great at especially with his work in exposing false flags the best masterful and and he was a friend of mine and he approached me to write a book because he'd read my articles and felt like I was the guy
to write the book on it and and then the independent of Jim Fessor came Robert David Steele about maybe two months later.
So I had already started several chapters on the book.
And then Robert David Steele approached and said, you've got to write a book on this.
And I told him I already am.
So that's how it got rolling.
And now I've got, I'm finishing up the 12th chapter.
I think there's out of my table of contents outline, I believe I have 23 chapters.
I think that the remaining chapters, some of them will be much smaller than the larger ones because I took big categories in the beginning.
Okay.
Now, I do notice that you also got into the work or the testimony of Kay Griggs.
And I wonder if you want to talk a little bit about that.
I tried to find information to invite her on the show.
I think it's quite difficult to get in touch and so on.
But were you able to interview her, I don't recall, from your book in person?
Or are you simply...
Kind of reiterating her statements and then commenting.
Yeah, basically I think she's 75 years old now and I think in her golden years she's decided, you know, she's already put everything probably that she knows out there and so she hasn't really been active in giving interviews probably for 10 years.
I think she had an interview Jeff Rents in 2005 or something like that.
And I believe that might have been her last interview.
And so I had to use what she's already said.
And with my own knowledge of the military and my increasing knowledge of the whole quote system that preys on children, I analyzed what is available that she has said.
And it dovetails.
I mean, it's a lot of Everything she says has been backed up like tenfold by other sources in history through the years.
So, and she was privy for, well, I'll do an intro for people that aren't familiar with Kay Gray.
She was married for a decade to a marine colonel, George Ray Gray.
And he was a military, Marine military intelligence.
Are you there?
Yeah, I am.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So, this military intelligence Marine Colonel worked with Bush and Cheney and Clinton and all the bad guys from the...
Well, really, he'd been around since the 60s, actually, as an officer.
And he was trained as an assassin, basically.
That's what he was.
He was an assassin for the U.S. government.
And it gets into the homosexuality.
They go through all the basic...
It's really satanic.
They go through the occult rituals that, first of all, puts them into very blackmailable situations.
And you'll notice this whole system is predicated On putting people in compromising situations where they can be blackmailed.
And that's why we have a government that does exactly what they're told by the puppet masters who control and own them.
And if they step out of line, you know, their career is over.
And I have a feeling that Trump has even been compromised, but we'll get into that a little bit later.
I hope, you know, with all that we've been hearing, that There has been an increase in the number of arrests in pedophilia, so I'm hoping he may turn out to be a good guy, and if he cleans up the swamp, as he's promised and been elected to do, then he'll probably turn out to be the best president of the United States, but that all remains to be seen so far, but we'll get into that a little bit later.
So yeah, the military system, and being a West Point graduate, Everything except the sexual perversion was the same.
You know, as far as they do the brainwash where you're a robot and you do whatever, you're told it doesn't matter how immoral what you're being told to do is, you just follow it, you punch your ticket, you ingratiate your superior officer so that you can be promoted.
And the system is predicated on psychopathy.
You must be one of them.
See, all the people at the top, be it the military, be it in the courts, be it in the government, be it in the corporations, be it in education, in every finances, banking, all of them, they all are psychopaths at the top, or 99.9%.
We'll say that.
Probably not every single one that's way up there high.
But the higher you go, the more you are.
Because, obviously, their whole crumbling, perverse system is based on secrecy.
You must never tell these secrets, or you're dead, basically.
It's like that.
It's exactly the same as the mob.
Everything is the same.
And they work with the mob.
The, quote, legitimate government is the mob.
They're all intermatched like that.
It's an interlocking system of Thank you.
Camelot is very aware of this and of course we document this sort of thing and use what we call whistleblowers who have been on the inside.
Now I don't know if you consider yourself a whistleblower or someone who has been on the inside.
You were at West Point.
How deeply did you get into all of that?
Do you feel that your experience has lent you To have a different viewpoint than most people.
Somehow you got out of the military with a different viewpoint it appears.
And then the other thing is, you know, is your sources, are your sources individuals?
Are they, you know, are you going off of book information?
Are you going off of testimony of your, I guess, clients, so to speak, a combination of all three?
Where are you getting your sources on all of this?
People will wonder about that.
Thank you.
Most of my sources are already out there on the internet and in books, and so most of them are that.
I have got inside sources that I pass along information where I can.
And I welcome, I welcome anybody from the inside that knows important stuff that's going on, please contact me for their, to relay this information so we can get it out to the people.
It's a paramount importance.
So yeah, it's a combination, mostly.
Okay, so at this point, if you want to go down this road and talk about your book, we can do that.
You know, I want to make sure to kind of tailor this so that you get your information out there the way you would like.
Maybe you could start off with perhaps Robert David Steele, how you got in touch with him, and what his input was, simply because I know he did try to, or he's actually currently trying to get your information out there and help you along.
And you're also doing a GoFundMe, as I saw.
I put the link on my On my website.
So can you kind of explain that and then maybe how you got into, like, the different chapters, maybe going to those different subject matters?
Okay.
Originally, when Fetzer approached me, I was going to, my outline was simply to do a chronology of all the major scandals of pedophilia through the years.
And then Robert David Seelkin, and I've known Robert for a couple of years.
We actually contributed to Kevin Barrett's False Flag Orlando.
We each contributed a chapter to that, and I've known him for a couple of years.
And of course, I have immense respect for this man, you know, revealing information that he was privy to as a CIA officer, and the information that he Gives to the world with his knowledge.
It's amazing, you know, the whole un-rigged movement that he's done.
So he has some input as to new material that I could inject into the book, and so he gave me some good input, and I decided I would do both,
cover chronologies of past Scandals as well as analyze in probably as comprehensive depth as possible the child trafficking network how it functions.
I don't think it's ever been really dissected before at a deep level and so that was my aim to do that so that people can really I mean When you finish reading my book, you will understand that, one, it's for real.
It's not just fake news.
It's not just something that people are making up to be sensational and get noticed.
So it's real and it's been real for so long.
We already know that centuries have gone by where the Catholic Church has sodomized children.
For years and years and years and got away with it, and they simply moved people around.
The priests would go from one assignment to the next, hurting all the local children wherever they go.
The military handled the pedophilia the same way.
I learned, you know, I was 10 years out of West Point, but I didn't realize there was a major Pedophilia scandal at West Pudy, 10 years after I graduated.
This came in 1984-1985.
And then there was one in Presidio, in San Francisco, that military took.
And they were going on at the same time as the McMartin case in Southern California.
And that's where I lived for 37 years.
So I did a chapter on the military.
Pedophilia scandals and how they've basically, they don't believe the parents, they don't believe the children.
And it's all about damage control.
Especially West Point with this quote pure image that they've maintained for a couple of centuries.
Well, actually I'm interested in that.
The West Point story, how are you, aren't these young men 18 or over?
So where does the pedophilia come in at West Point?
Okay, it was a daycare facility.
So it was mostly for officers, children, and enlisted personnel stationed at West Point, their children.
Obviously, you know, the cadets are young and they're not married, they can't be married, and so it's not their children.
But it was a daycare facility that actually, the whole thing precipitated with a sergeant who actually murdered his girlfriend's son.
It was like a 22-month-old kid.
And all the army did was discharge him.
He got a dishonorable discharge.
He did not serve time.
He got away with it.
And that even happened prior to this scandal coming out of these children at the daycare center being sexually abused by Satanists.
They belonged to a cult and they were actually engaging in these occult rituals and doing, they were Magnifying glasses on their skin and then they were smearing them with feces and having them drink.
The pattern is Martin, it's Presidio.
They do these same basically satanic kind of rituals with children.
They kill the animals in front of them and traumatize them that way.
In addition to sodomizing and Okay, but in terms of West Point, you were at West Point yourself.
So you said that this came out, I guess, later, after you left.
Yes.
But when you talk about what was going on with regard to the satanic side, and I'm assuming that Michael Aquino is someone you're familiar with to do with, you know...
Oh, I've written chapters on that, man.
And I was an insider from all the way up to the top.
I mean, he was a Satanist.
He got his own Church of Seth, which is a nice Satanist church.
Yes, and we've interviewed Douglas Dietrich I don't know if you talked to him, but he's certainly very knowledgeable on this.
But I want to ask you, in terms of when you were in the military, were you completely naive to the signs of Satanism?
that you were reporting to, et cetera, et cetera?
Or is this something you started to become aware of subliminally or even psychically or whatever?
Or how did this emerge to you other than reading about it 10 years later?
Okay.
While I was in the military, I never encountered Satanism.
First of all, you have to understand that a Satanist is not going to go around, unless you're Michael Aquino, you're not going to go around advertising that you're a Satanist.
So I never encountered it directly that I knew about.
And then it really was Michael Aquino and And the Franklin scandal and his involvement in that and a ton of mushrooms and I had an interest once I learned about that and that was probably over ten years ago.
Quite a while ago.
I didn't even know about the West Point scandal until I started investigating Petalgate.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Yeah, I didn't even know about it.
Alright, so do you have any, you know, I don't know, backchannel Satanists and or, you know, I don't know if you want to call them recovered pedophiles.
Anybody who has actually, you know, been on hand, who has sort of disclosed to you To you information here about this kind of thing.
And I do want to say that Camelot has that information.
We have a gentleman who sent us information many years ago.
We were not at liberty to publish it.
He was still protecting himself and others.
But he was disclosing to us, at least, quite extensive documentation about this story.
I think he came from the area where the Franklin scandal kind of happened, but I don't think he was...
I think his information was separate from that, as far as I understood back in the day.
This is many years ago.
Camelot has been in operation 11 and a half years, just so you can kind of figure how many years ago this was.
But...
I'm wondering, you know, in other words, I have, like I'm saying, I've been approached, we've been given information.
Were you approached in this way?
Yes, I have people that have approached me who are ex-members of the Satanic Party.
Okay.
Various cults.
There's a number of cults, but Anton LaVey is probably the biggest one that And Michael Aquino was a Satanist and is a right-hand man for a while before he started his own Temple of Seth in 1975.
So yeah, I have some inside sources based on their experience as well as what's out there on the web Okay, and are your clients, your clients are also victims of this circumstance, and is that a lot of clients, all your clients, or what is the ratio?
My clients as a therapist were mainly in the juvenile justice system, on probation, or in the foster care system, the child welfare system, separated from their families of origin by abuse.
So I didn't encounter, you know, I did, you know, I think run into maybe one or two cases in my clients that had relatives, family members who were practicing Satanists.
But it was very limited.
I did not Oh, okay.
What about Illuminati members?
In other words, you know, there's...
I haven't read your book, but I certainly would like to.
And I'm wondering if you get into sort of the...
The Illuminati rituals and the way they raise a child, which it's kind of built into their system in a sense.
And there are some whistleblowers and people that Camelot has interviewed in the past that do know a lot about this.
One of the people, by the way, for those listening, is called The Ruiner.
Shane has quite a bit of experience in this as a child.
And there are others.
Aaron Rothschild.
Jay Parker's good.
Sorry?
Jay Parker?
Oh, okay, yes.
He's very good, too, from an Illuminati family dating back hundreds of years.
Yeah, I've done a lot of research on the Illuminati.
You know, the Illuminati, yes, they have family traditions, basically, that are satanic.
And they do the abuse.
I mean, and it parallels...
The NK Ultra Monarch Program is very similar, very similar, where they do torture starting at basically one or two years old, right around that age, and they do sexual, you know, trauma, obviously.
They induce dissociative personalities, you know, multiple personality that they used to be called, all basically to Well, the MKUltra program is basically to create sex slaves and spies and drug mules and things like that,
where all the various personalities don't know what's going on with the other personalities, so they're unaware of their involvement in basically the crime cabal using them so malevolently.
Okay, so what I'd like to do, you know, because there's a lot of different areas we could go into, I also want to know whether or not you've had any exposure to what we call super soldiers or psychic spies, this sort of thing, and how they are trained using MKUltra, of course, techniques.
So in your practice, have you had that kind of exposure?
Yes, I have run into what would be called a super soldier.
I've known a couple of them, actually.
And there's a lot of literature out there.
There's some very brave souls out there that are putting it on the line, telling their experiences.
And that goes for all of the different misuses of human beings as spies and sex slaves.
Of course, Kathy O'Brien is part of the most vulnerable.
There's a whole bunch of them.
But yeah, these are very brave souls that have been so horribly abused and used by the system.
But it's the same system that's responsible for this, of course, child trafficking network in all terms of things.
Okay, now you said in your book that you sort of trace the network and around the world, it sounded like.
And so I'm wondering if you have actually figured out countries that are really strong in it, you know, and also because I'm wondering if you have any inside knowledge about Australia, for example, which we don't hear much about, but I think it's pretty rampant over there.
And, you know, there are other countries that are, and cities, there may be, there are certain cities on the, you know, on the trail, on the network, that are, you know, in Bosnia, and various places where this has really been, you know, it's like a railroad, I guess, you know, for lack of a better, you know, name for a railroad.
And then also the British, and whether the Queen, you know, your information is It's always valuable.
Obviously, you're extremely well-researched and you have your own exposure through your clients, etc.
If you can bring in those kinds of things as you go along, I'd love to hear your analysis.
Obviously, we don't have hours and hours, but to go over what you found, where the network is really The thickest, so to speak, and the cities that are really monumental in this way and so on.
Okay.
Well, as pretty much everybody knows, the ruling elite, they thrive and prosper with war.
So they constantly have wars.
And where there are combat war zones, there are people that are refugees.
And driven away from their homes for their life.
And they become prey, especially obviously the children become prey, where they come and they basically tell the parents, I'll give you so much money for your child, and because the parents are, or they use a line like, We'll marry your child off, you know, and they'll give them more money than they have ever seen, and the child goes away.
Or they abduct.
They actually do physical kidnapping, putting them into the pipeline that way.
But the network really centers around the four places on Earth that are probably the most evil thereof.
And it is the U.S. Empire in Washington, That's probably the central spoke in this whole wheel.
It comes out from Washington.
But the money comes from, of course, the city of London, which is not actually the city of London.
It is an economic base of the Rothschild money and the royalty and all of this money in London.
And then we have Brussels, which is, of course, the home of the European Union, a very corrupt, unelected Basically, New World Order governmental body on the way to world government.
And it also houses the NATO operation, a very, very evil military force in the same way that the U.S. military is misused.
They go together.
And for a little while, Trump was saying, okay, we don't need NATO. I'm getting out of NATO. I'm president.
Yeah, okay, follow up on your promise there, buddy.
And then the last leg of it is the Vatican in Rome and the Pope and all of that.
They are all interlocked as the, basically the leaders, the ones that are really running this operation.
The CIA is basically the pimp of this whole, the CIA, The Jesuits, all the secret societies are in so deep into this whole child trafficking network and abuse on children.
And then it spreads to every corner of the globe.
I just finished a chapter recently on basically the State Department.
The U.S. State Department is notorious For, first of all, housing the CIA in their embassies where there are actually operatives that are doing their dirty business.
And basically, embassies all over the world are in the practice of procurement for dignitaries visiting congresspeople and providing children for these sickos Uh, to do damage on locally.
It's all run, you know, with each region.
I focused a lot on, because this is an area, geographical area, where a lot of sex tourism pedophilia is, and that's Asia, and I'm in Asia.
I'm in, uh, Bali.
So, I, uh, basically in Thailand and Cambodia, Vietnam, A little bit in Indonesia, but not thankfully as much.
But in those countries, Myanmar also, it's real bad.
They basically use the State Department and the CIA. There's military intelligence involved and they procure They prey on orphanages all over the world.
They'll put up money.
They'll be Rockefeller money that will actually establish these institutions for children.
You also have USAID, the US capital A-I-D, the investment money that America puts out to all the different countries of the world.
These are all, quote, charitable organizations.
Even the Red Cross is involved in this.
So these are the front organizations for basically the CIA and U.S. Incorporated that is behind the pedophilic trafficking.
And they got their foxes guarding the henhouse in every aspect of the business, from the child procuring that comes through the pipeline of the child welfare system here in the United States, child welfare systems in other countries, Charities in all the other different countries, they're all in it together, and they work in the end.
Okay, do you get into why?
In other words, we can understand how congresspeople in the U.S. and other countries, in other words, you can see where a country would be motivated to, at the upper echelons, entrap their sort of underlings, congresspeople, etc., Even police officers, etc.
So that they turn a blind eye and also are compromised so that they do what they're told.
But what is the worldwide significance of the network?
What are you looking at in terms of establishing something so large that it's actually almost institutionalized around the world?
Through various channels like you're saying through the Red Cross and other aid situations.
What are they doing?
Are they requiring governments of other countries to become beholden to the United States?
Do you understand where I'm going with this?
Yes, it's all of the above.
All the governments are involved.
The leaders are involved.
The law enforcement, the legal system, the child welfare system, the education system, the charity system, they're all in it together, the military, The CIA, the intelligence community, there's basically the fence, really.
Are we talking about entrapment only?
Are we talking about, is this a money-making operation?
What is the motivation?
It serves a number of purposes, and I'll get into them.
One is money.
$99 billion annually, and this is not even an up-to-date figure, $99 billion comes from annual trafficking of Two-thirds of those are children.
And then we have like 800,000.
This is a little figure, too.
800,000 missing children every year in the United States.
Eight million missing children in the world every year.
So with those kind of numbers, you can imagine the immense interlocking mammoth operation that's been going on now for a long, long time.
So it serves money, but that's Control and blackmail is probably the big, big reason.
And then we have sickos that get off on it.
And that's their motivation, too.
I think a lot of the people that are actually practicing Satanism, that worship Lucifer, I believe that they actually gain power from torturing and Traumatizing and sodomizing children and they also of course have their rituals where while they're doing these horrible things to children they're cutting them up and they're actually eating their hearts and things
like that and drinking the blood of course and of course there's even scientific research that has verified that it revitalizes tissues and cells and keeps people looking younger than their years Marina Abramovic, the queen of Satan, basically, that was involved in the dinners with the Plevesque brothers.
She looks about 30 years younger than she is.
She's like in her 70s now.
So there's...
And, you know, basically they call upon, in these rituals, Demonic interdimensional forces that also empower these individuals, be it royalty or kings, queens, presidents, prime ministers, true blue Satanists, the Rothschild, all of them, they get empowered with the adrenaline.
It's called adrenochrome.
That's supposedly the ingredient that actually gives them this power because they scare Any animal that is tortured at the time of its death secretes all this adrenochrome.
And that is this power.
It's a drug.
It is a drug.
And these people are addicted to it.
And because they call upon interdimensional demonic forces to help do their bidding, they also believe, anyway, that they have increased power.
And perhaps they do.
Maybe, you know, that old saying that comes from the Bible Satan rules the world, the earthly domain, dominion.
I mean, it seems like those in control in this system are pretty evil in what they're doing.
So maybe there is something to that.
Okay, so what about people that do break away from the system, you know, and are able to speak out?
Have you come across, you know, I'm not sure what your exact relationship with these people would be, but in other words, they're telling you information.
Are they, you know, going into hiding after this?
Are they worried that they will be killed, etc.?
And are you familiar, by the way, with the testimony of someone called Savali?
I've heard the name, yes.
Yes, I've read, I think on...
I forgot his name now.
But yes, I have read Savali.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
They go through hell.
Once they come out and disclose their experiences, they are harassed.
It's obviously taboo, and people have died that have revealed secrets.
So at great risk to themselves, these very courageous souls have come forth and given us information that's vital to uncovering this evil.
Right.
Well, for example, what about the guy who is, his name escapes me at this exact moment, but I had some interaction with somebody who was setting me up to do an interview with, I think he's called, you know, the Dutchman, or he's a banker, a Dutch banker.
Oh, yes.
And did you ever have any interaction with him?
No, I haven't.
I've only read what's out there, yeah.
The interview, he's done I guess a couple, he went through hell.
Well, first of all, they are told that once you're in, you can't get out.
And obviously these individuals who have come forth have managed to get out.
But it's a great expense because they are harassed and threatened and some are killed.
But you can look at his interview And this man is telling the truth.
I mean, there is so much emotion.
When he was basically told that he has to participate in the sacrifice of a child, he breaks up and you know he's telling the truth.
You know that he was one of the players inside this demonic game that played in the horrors that they put on children.
And that tore him up.
He could not handle staying in Regardless of how much money and all that kind of stuff that he'd bring, he could not live with himself.
But yeah, it was very difficult.
And then there was a false story that he actually murdered in Florida going for a walk.
In fact, that was since...
Right.
And well, assuming my source is correct and my interactions with them, the interview never happened, but it was supposed to happen when I was in Europe recently.
So he's still on the, you know, he's still out there somewhere.
What I wonder is if you want to go into some specific cases that, you know, are a particular note to you to share with our audience or anything?
Well, I can talk about kind of what happens, as far as what I gather, to a child that's in the system, you know, through MKL for Mark, and that's still going on.
Of course, the CIA denies it and denies it ever even existed, actually, past 1973, supposedly, when they got rid of it directly after the cloud.
But, you know, that system has been going on and still going on for the time.
But I'll talk about the situations in Cambodia, basically, and this is an ongoing thing, you know, whether it's the 90s or this century.
They bring children in and then they put them on planes and everything is hush-hush.
Four ships, there's a lot of Large vessel cargo ships that actually travel with hundreds of slaves at a time.
Cross oceans.
Oh, and you mentioned the Balkan region with Bosnia and Kosovo war.
That was a field day for these evil people.
And of course, you know, there's private contractors like Dynkor that were guilty as Charged and UN officials, corrupt UN officials, we're all in it together.
That's how these operate.
The UN is also, I mean, not only is it a precursor to the one world government that the new world order is, you know, bringing in, ushering in.
And it's up to us to fight it, because, you know, we do not want to submit the tribal pyramid, and that's what's coming, you know, we see it gradually getting worse and worse.
But, I do think we're on the turning point now.
And I'll get into that right now before I talk about it.
Basically, they arrive many to America or UK, Europe, to the Middle East.
There's a lot of princes and, you know, sheiks that are in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states where they have so much money and, you know, they have basically a custom of being with children sexually there.
And so they arrive, they have special Cargo vans that are active, and I'm telling you, I got quite a bit of information from a woman who is a medical doctor named Sue Oligo.
Have you heard of her?
The name's familiar.
I'm not sure why.
She is, first of all, she was in the MK Ultramar program and was a sex slave and a spy.
And she also has psychic ability, and that's really how she survived and did not die.
By the way, a sex slave lasts all of about two years in the system.
Because they're so traumatized and tortured, their will to live shuts down and they die, and they're used up.
Physically, emotionally, psychically, spiritually, in every aspect they're traumatized and put to death.
So that they do not survive.
This woman, Sue Arrigo, did survive.
She went on to become a medical doctor even, but her main thing was she was a remote viewer and had that psychic capacity, which was obviously an asset for the military and the CIA. And so she became an operative in the CIA and was the right-hand henchwoman Actually, she's a good person, but she was used by the CIA director.
She was the assistant to the directors from, like, the 1970s all the way up to after 9-1-1.
And so she has a lot of first-hand account of male trafficking.
And basically, they make special vans that seep from anywhere.
Probably not seat, but actually travel with 20 to 100 kids at a time.
And they pick them up.
Of course, they have code words at the ports of all the ports in America and Europe where this is an illegal cargo.
Therefore, you know, it takes priority and you've got to unload and unload as quick as possible because obviously it's illicit cargo.
Children.
And so they're off, usually in other docks, away from the regular, quote, lawful cargo coming in.
And they're picked up, and they're immediately transported in these vans that are very inhumane.
They're soundproof, and they basically have a drainage system for urine and feces.
I mean, they're totally tortured the whole time that they're Sex slave.
And they're sold at auctions.
There's auctions, illegal auctions going on basically everywhere, outside of Vegas, outside of Houston.
They're very, usually in remote areas near the city.
And they have these auctions.
And then they're sold to basically brothels where young kids are, and of course it goes on in America, it goes on in Europe, but it goes on in Asia and South America.
There were Columbia, Scandal where military and CIA were actually involved in ranking 50 Colombian underage girls.
I mean, it's going on all the time.
But yeah, I mean, it's just devastating when you read about and learn about just the horror that they go through every single day of their lives that are so short-lived.
Two years.
Right.
Now, are you aware or, you know, we haven't really talked before this interview.
I don't know what your position is on the underground bases and whether these children are disappearing into the underground bases being sent, you know, because there's a lot of military there, obviously, and also going off planet.
So there's that whole side, which is what we call the secret space program.
And all of that.
There's a recent story coming out about bribes that have been given to Navy Admirals for ships around the world.
And I have a feeling that that story, I don't know if you saw it in the news, it was fairly recent.
It's actually come out that these Navy admirals, I think there's something, maybe 40, if I have it, maybe I have the number wrong, I'm not sure, very high level military that have been You know, are in charge of these ships,
these huge ships that were supposed to be defending U.S. interests, etc., and, you know, and maybe British as well, and basically that they were bribed to go to certain ports and were completely...
You know, given prostitutes, etc.
One imagines that this involves child, you know, sex slaves, etc.
So did you ever have or do you have any sort of current information on that?
Well, I don't have the current information.
Okay.
I don't have the current information.
However, pretty much it's known historically that Right outside, wherever you find military bases, and they're all over the world, there's something like 800 to up to maybe even 1,000 throughout the world where we have these U.S. military occupiers occupying foreign nations.
It's grotesque and obscene that it goes on, and that's one of the things that Trump, he's not doing it, but he should bring all of them home so they belong, all the soldiers.
And anyway, These operations flourish around the military bases.
They're all part of this whole trafficking network too.
And there are these corrupt admirals and generals that are players in that system.
So yeah, I have to follow up on the latest stuff that the admirals are talking about.
Okay, what about the underground bases and secret space?
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, that's basically where they do a lot of the MKUltra Monarch programming, and they've been doing it for years in the underground bases.
And that's, of course, also where the secret space program, oftentimes the research is going on.
They come up with all kinds of genetic, you know, Cloning of animals mixed in human genes and all these monstrosities they're doing.
But a lot of kids end up there, yes.
They're doing all kinds of horror to children in those faces.
Some of them Are born there and they die there.
They don't even get out.
They don't even know what the light of day is.
Right.
And are you aware of, for example, a base like Dulcy Base?
Because the Dulcy Base is notorious.
We have testimony from an ex, I guess the CIA, A person on his deathbed's confession talked about invading or attempting to invade as a part of the military on orders, I believe, from Eisenhower to invade the Dulce base.
I know that Mark Richards and his father both went into a raid on Dulce.
And as it happened, according to Mark Richards, they did go in and rescue some people that were being held in cages and all kinds of Horrible stuff and used for genetic experiments, etc.
But that the that the gray aliens would Reabduct them right after they left and that that base is still Going on is still thriving underground under Los Alamos and in in that area so in other words I don't know if you ever hear about the raids,
but my understanding is that in some cases these individuals that get rescued also get re-abducted, whether it's by the aliens or by the humans in these especially war-torn areas.
Are you aware of that?
Yes, yes.
Yeah, they've done some horrible experiences with children.
The center place is basically the protection of the underground domes, basically.
Right.
So what other areas have you looked into?
In other words, for example, I did interview somebody about the...
I can't remember who it was at this time because I do too many interviews, but...
To do with the Franklin scandal, this seems to be quite a well-known scandal, and I'm wondering whether or not you ever met any of the principals that were involved in sort of whistleblowing with that, or anything else to do with any of the cases where you maybe had more direct exposure or that you want to bring to light here today?
No, I've never met.
Probably the highest-profile victim survivor in that case was Paul Benaci, who actually did get awarded a million dollars for the abuse that he was subjected to.
To my knowledge, he's about the only one without any kind of compensation.
Actually, it's true.
Some of the kids in prison, there was one woman who was about a 14-year-old girl at the time that actually ended up in prison for three years, I think.
I think she's out.
And of course, it happened.
I'll talk a little bit about that.
Probably a lot of people, a lot of your viewers probably are aware of it, frankly.
It's probably the highest, you know, pedophilia scandal in America that we know about.
And the significance of it is that it ran straight from Boys Town, Omaha, Nebraska, to the White House.
Basically, the Reagan and the Bush Senior White House, they would actually have the children in the White House during the overnight hours being sodomized by George H.W. Bush and company.
So that's probably the biggest.
And there's a lot to it.
Unfortunately, the Nebraska State Senator is no longer with us.
He just died several months ago, a couple of months ago.
I don't remember his name, but there's a lot out there.
In fact, that's my next chapter.
I'm just finishing the Finder scandal, which was also a Washington, D.C. scandal, lesser known than Lee Franklin, that was going on at the same time in the same place in Washington, basically.
But that was a CIA front.
It was a, quote, hippie cult, they called it, but actually it was a CIA front back in 1987.
There were two very well-dressed Gentlemen, Satanists, that were traveling with six children, and they were caught by the Tallahassee police.
A tipster called the police and said, there's a strange thing going on here at the park.
There's these two very well-dressed men, but they have six children that look like they've been in the war zone because they're covered with insect bites and dirty and haven't been clean and all of this.
So they arrest these guys for abuse, definite.
They give search warrants for where they come from, which is in Washington, D.C. They were in Dallas and Florida, so they were in custody there, and they had these search warrants, and the U.S. Customs got involved because these two, quote, guys told them that they were teachers traveling to Mexico to start up a school for brilliant children, And there were six kids in tow.
And the two oldest, five and six years old, were and went to the warehouse where the business operated out of Washington, D.C., were and went to the warehouse where the business operated out of Washington, D.C., Northeast and Northwest, which was the And they found all kinds of evidence.
First of all, back in 1987, February of 1987, these people had all these sophisticated computers when Americans never even had PCs in their home.
They didn't know what personal computers were at that time.
But they had these satellites and computers and basically they were tipped off.
It was a CIA front that when the two got arrested in Tallahassee, within two hours back in Washington, D.C., they knew exactly.
They got the police report from Tallahassee already back to Washington, their headquarters.
So, I mean, and there was so much evidence of being a trafficking plant.
They're procuring a trafficking plant and they operate all over the world.
There's all these financial exchanges basically with the UK, Bank of London, City of London banks.
So they were a sophisticated CIA front operation that was busted for basically global international trafficking of children.
No sooner, and it's all out there.
There was a U.S. customs official, the officer Martinez, Ramon J. Martinez, who has like a six-page total report of all the events of those few days in February.
Like three or four days and it's all there, you know, six-page things.
And it's definite evidence that there was a rink, but the Washington Metro Police took all this evidence that they took out of the warehouse in the home, and the U.S. Justice Department stepped in and said, this is a CIA internal matter, and case is closed.
Investigation stopped immediately.
And so it was another case in point.
And this happened at exactly the same time as the Franklin scandal was going on in 1987.
So it was a case in point where the CIA, as the pimps of the World Trafficking Network, got busted and then it was all shut down and you never hear of it again.
Because the Washington Post ran an article on February 7th.
The New York Times also that same day.
And then there was one follow-up article in 1994.
But they were like saying, well, they never found the evidence, and so that's the end.
You know, that was the gist of that article.
And that was it.
And they made it out like this old guy from World War II who was the leader of the finder's cult.
He was just an eccentric guy that loved to do spying on people and spying on the CIA. Just a Crock of crap propaganda that they brushed over the reality.
But that's what happens.
And they tried to do...
They did the same thing with Franklin's scandal.
And it went away.
I mean, the Washington Times ran an article about how they were bringing the young boys into the White House.
I think that was in 1989.
And then you hardly hear about it.
You know, the Okay, what about Judge Scalia, the death of Scalia?
And that seemed to be clearly, there is a whistleblower on the web talking about his involvement as, you know, I guess a sex slave, if you want to call it that.
He wasn't a child.
He's older than that.
But nonetheless, he has a website and has talked about it.
Do you know anything about any, have you heard any more details about the Scalia situation?
Probably not anything new.
I mean, it was definitely a murder and a cover-up, that's for sure.
And he was at a ranch with the elite, basically.
And, of course, Scalia was an elite himself.
And a pedophile, a homosexual pedophile.
And he was murdered, and they covered it up.
I read about it, and I know that it was a ploy on the part of Obama because he was ready to expose some of the corruption in the Obama administration, and they wanted to X him out and plant a pro-Obama justice into the Supreme Court to replace him to get a majority on the New World Order side.
Well, one of the ways that the institutions, of course, in the United States are going to be compromised is through the judges, wouldn't you say?
Oh yes.
They've all been bought off, they're all controlled, and many of them are both in Europe and America.
Okay, so I'm wondering now, have you done any investigation into the history of this?
In other words, a lot of people think because it's coming out now that it's actually just been going on in modern day, you know.
But I'm sure it goes back to, well, I know it goes back to ancient Egypt, but it also goes back to, you know, in other words, ancient cultures did participate in this kind of cults.
As well as Nazi Germany, I'm sure, was heavily involved in this.
Yes.
Unfortunately, it's kind of a sad and dark page in human history.
It seems like there are cultures all over the world, from Asia to South America, to the Incas and the Aztecs, that involved the sacrifice of children.
Of course, we know that The Ammonites and the Israelites and the Carthaginians and the Greeks and the Egyptians.
It's basically all over.
So yes, there is a long history.
And it goes back, basically, I think, to the worshipper of Baal.
You know, B-A-A-L. Baphomet is another name.
Seth, the deity of Seth from Egypt.
So, yeah, ancient cultures have all engaged.
And my thought is, there's a civilization that rises and falls.
That's the nature of human history.
All through.
Rise and fall.
And on the downside, there becomes a moral deprivation And perversion that engages in these kinds of practices historically.
And I think basically America has seen its rise and we're in the middle of its fall, I think.
And hopefully, though, I don't know how much time we have left, but I do want to touch on we are turning the corner.
The truth is prevailing now.
In Hollywood and in Washington, with these predators, these sexual predators that have been exposed, we're right around the corner.
I mean, Kevin Spacey actually is an out-and-out pedophile.
He's raping underage boys.
But right now, they're scratching the surface with sexual harassment and rapists of adult women.
But the bottom line is we're right around the corner from the pedophilia.
The pedophiles now are going to be surfacing as well.
That's right around the corner.
And so hopefully I can time this book exactly when the information is coming out.
And of course, there have been a lot more arrests.
I mean, in the total number of administrations in the past, there were 200, 300, 400 maybe at the most prior to Trump.
And just since Trump's been president, there's well over 3,000 arrests in pedophile cases.
So he may be doing something.
I think he's compromised, but at the same time, I think he is forging and making an issue with pedophile.
And we also have to say that President Putin basically gave America and Trump ultimatum.
He said, clean up your act with the pedophilia or we're going to reveal names.
That actually came out about two, three months ago.
So, I think under a lot of pressure, and maybe Trump actually is sincere in wanting to, you know, rid pedophilia, although, like I said, he might be compromised.
He ran with Jeffrey Epstein.
There's another scandal that I'm going to cover.
You know, I'm sure your viewers must know who Jeffrey Epstein is.
Right.
Well, can you talk about the Epstein situation?
Certainly the Clintons were involved there as well.
But it is true that recently, well, I can say we have evidence that the CIA was And that's a true story, not a fake news story.
And I think it's very interesting that Gordon Duff, who obviously writes for Veterans Today and is a CIA agent, and he was motivated to come forward in his latest article and say that Trump was working with Epstein.
Actually, I guess what he's really trying to say is that what's happening is what one might call a limited hangout.
Do you understand that terminology?
Meaning that they're putting certain people like Harvey Weinstein and others out to the sharks, so to speak.
And this is in order to kind of get it over with To, you know, offer these people as sacrifices, so to speak, and then to hope that it quiets down and there's a few bad apples in this sort of barrel type of philosophy, and then they move on.
And, of course, the CIA being heavily implicated itself.
So, you know, this is a whole drama.
But any inside information or things that haven't come out about the Epstein, you know, link-ups that you're aware of?
Well, probably not anything new.
I know that Acosta, the Secretary of Labor, was the prosecutor down in Florida on that Epstein case and gave him a sweetheart deal of being able to basically just show up at night to sleep in the little, plush little jail cell that he had for 13 months.
Meanwhile, the guys raped 60 little girls, 12 to 16, I think, was his preference.
And got a sweetheart deal.
Got off, basically, because he's a billionaire.
And he's a Mossad agent.
And he carried on in Sex Slave Ireland, that blackmail operation that entrapped, basically, Bill and Hillary.
Hillary's down.
They got video of Hillary with her lover, Huma Adedine, and an underage girl.
The New York police have that on a copy of it in their possession.
Because the FBI cannot be trusted.
They're the cover-uppers of all scandals.
So, yeah, I mean, there's a direct connection.
Trump himself in the New York Magazine said, back in 2003, just two years before Epstein was busted, Trump was saying, oh yeah, Jeffrey's one of my buddies, and boy does he love, he's like me, he loves beautiful women, and he likes them on the young side.
This is word for word what Trump was saying.
So, you know, and they ran together.
You know, Mar-a-Lago, he was a member there.
They ran together in New York and went to those same social parties and all of that.
And supposedly there might be evidence.
It's been put out there, and we don't know if it's too far.
I hope to God it's not.
But supposedly there might be some kind of involvement of a 12-year-old girl Okay, so what I want to ask you is, you can call yourself a clinical psychiatrist.
Is that the right terminology?
I want to get the terminology right.
Actually, to be a psychologist, technically you have to be a PhD, and I have a master's level as a licensed therapist.
I was a licensed marriage family therapist for many years in California.
So in terms of this overall, I'm kind of asking you, you know, a question that delves a little deeper into the psyche of humanity and what's really at work here.
Obviously, I have a certain theory that involves, of course, reptilians and this whole sort of alien connection, which is rampant.
And that humans are under the thumb of certain alien races as a result.
But there's also the reptilian brain and the idea that there may be sort of an infestation, if you will, of humanity or the human genome, especially certain bloodlines having a proclivity towards this stuff.
Yeah, they're the hybrid species basically, yeah.
So the question becomes, as human society progresses, and once this understanding becomes more You know, general and that people understand that this is not just this is not fake news and this is not some oddity that it's going on constantly and that people need to step up and and do something about it.
But the question becomes, what does one do?
Because if you're going to count the numbers of individuals who even during history, but let's just say in the present day that are very involved in all of this on some level, And or have been compromised as a partaking of it, maybe through force or through other coercive methods.
In other words, what is the solution?
You can't throw them all in jail.
And even jail is not going to cure them.
You know, in other words, it is a dilemma.
I think it's a deep dilemma that has to be dealt with on some level because you've got Humans preying, literally preying on other humans.
And to say nothing of the aliens preying on the humans.
So on the human side of it, since, you know, for the general public here, let's say, do you have any thoughts as a therapist, as a person who has dealt with, you know, individuals who have been in this, maybe on the victim side, I'm assuming, for the most part, can Do you know what I'm asking?
What is your solution?
Do you have a social solution?
Do you have a psychological solution?
We have to remove the barrier that the public has about wanting to stay ignorant and not know about this.
There are so much defenses that operate in cognitive dissonance that basically rejects the truth.
They can't handle the truth, like that movie, you know?
Right.
And so we've got to remove that.
That's a big barrier.
People have to accept the truth.
As ugly as it is, they must accept the truth.
Because if everybody just looks the other way, it's only going to get worse.
So we have to spread the truth, spread the news, spread the word.
And that's a huge one, and of course that's the aim of my book.
We also need Truth and Reconciliation Commission so that we get to the people responsible for this immense operation that's been going on forever and get to the root of the people that are behind it so that they can be neutralized.
And what that means, you know, some people would say put to death.
You know, everybody has their own view as far as, you know, Corporal punishment, you know, so I'm going to leave that alone, but they need to be removed and so children can be safe.
You know, so what that might entail, I don't know, put them on an island or something, I don't know, or kill them.
I mean, you know, I personally don't believe in the death penalty.
I know a lot of people do, and there's nothing...
I mean, you can be a murderer of another adult and...
People think it's terrible, and it is, but doing those things to children is the worst, most egregious violation of humanity that there is to ever think or do, ever.
So, and obviously, they have to be consequence.
They cannot allow to continue.
And especially as the information comes out, it is uncomfortable upon us as responsible Adults wanting to protect children that we must do something.
We cannot put the other way and pretend that something can happen.
So that's the big thing.
Spread the word and get the Truth and Reconciliation Commissions going so we can learn from the ones on the bottom that are pulling the strings at the top.
Those are probably the biggest things that we can do.
Right.
Well, it does appear that we're also going to have to deal with the secrecy level, not just with this, but with everything, because with the secrecy comes a carte blanche to continue these operations.
And also because you've got networks.
And it does seem that human trafficking, drugs, and, you know, other sort of black money, you know, black project money, etc., etc.
In other words, that whole funnel is all linked together.
I don't see these things as being isolated from, you know, the opium poppy fields in Afghanistan.
Have to be sort of irrevocably linked with what's going on in the military and also quite possibly mind control that's happening on the battlefield, etc.
with soldiers who quite possibly don't even know what they're doing.
Their mind is somehow separated from their body for a long period of time and now they've got these helmets that they're supposedly going to be wearing on the fields and That also is going to interfere with psychic abilities and so on, which is a problem in my view.
But, you know, so this is the kind of thing that we're talking about.
In other words, I do appreciate, you know, your focus and shining a light on all of this.
It's so vital.
But I also think that people need to appreciate that one can't just...
Sort of attack the one area and let the other areas just go unrevealed and unspoken about because they really do seem linked sort of irrevocably.
And that gets into big pharma.
And it gets into, you know, the drug, you know, the high-level drug trade and so on and so forth and the drugging of America and the drugging of other countries through medication and certainly, you know, the GMO foods and, you know, the chemtrails.
I mean, in other words, it's a huge whole package that we need to look at all the angles of the package but understand that we've got to bring truth to all of it.
One thing cannot operate by itself.
It seems to me.
So, just your thoughts on those statements.
Sure.
Yeah.
We're facing a systemic problem.
Pedophilia is just one part of the bigger whole that is involved in this evil doing.
I mean, let's face it.
War is something that is very profitable to the ruling elite.
The bankers and wallets And in that process, they also are lots of money, trillions of dollars, in movement of drugs.
We're in the longest war in U.S. history in Afghanistan, only because we're making the government black ops, making so much money through being drug dealers, internet drug dealers, basically, is America government and the U.K. government.
And then they also push organ harvesting.
Children, they're taking hearts and taking kidneys and lungs from children and adults for harvesting and moving, trafficking organ parts of human beings at a high price for the elite.
Illegally, of course.
And, you know, and so...
And then, of course, there's illegal arms and contraband.
That's a huge, huge amount of dollars coming from that, too.
So, wherever you find these war zones, you find the movement of all these illegal trafficking going on.
Children, just one of them.
And yes, it's a systemic, you know, bottom line network where they're slow putting people to death.
They've, so far, chosen mostly Through war, that's the fast kill method.
And might introduce biological agents, biowarfare agents, and things like that from time to time.
Even the AIDS virus, that can also be a fast kill method, although they found AIDS is a slow one.
But, you know, Ebola was killing people after like seven to ten days.
So they're constantly working on these inside, you know, Fort Detrick, Maryland, trying to come up with the latest one that might be a fast kill method.
You just spray it and suddenly thousands of people are dead.
So they have these fast kill methods and they have their slow kill methods.
And they've been working on the slow kill methods forever, basically.
We've had the geoengineering now for at least 34 years now.
We've had weather modification and weather warfare going on for a long time.
They've taken Tesla technology and used it for illegal, evil military purposes to do their EMP weapons and cause earthquakes and volcanoes and hurricanes, increasing the intensity of hurricanes.
We saw that in America.
A couple of months ago.
Absolutely.
And then they have all the GMOs, as you said, fluoride, vaccines, all these slow-kill methods.
So, yeah, it's the whole systemic network of all this illegal, evil operation that has to be stopped.
So, as we turn the corner on one, we're going to be turning the corner on all.
And we better not let it be as The Veterans Today editor says that it's just, you know, it's the flavor of the week amongst people, short attention span, and then a week later, it's back to businesses.
And that's the history, the pattern in history.
There's a scandal that comes out, and then people forget about it, and then it's back to the same business as usual.
We cannot go back.
We cannot go back.
We already have turned the corner.
We know all this stuff is happening.
It's never been known to the point on this earth than it is right now.
There's more known about this stuff than ever before in the history of human beings on this earth.
So we're not going to go back.
We're going to proceed forward.
And we've got to change this whole system.
The economic system is ready to blow.
That's going to be the next thing.
The US dollar is dead.
America is going to see some hard times and it's going to have a ripple effect around the world as we figure out some kind of gold-based standard of currency in the world.
It's going to get rough, but it's going to get better eventually.
Okay, well, it's lovely that you are basically an optimist and looking for a positive result out of all this, in spite of what you've been delving into in a lot of depth.
And I was wondering, there's a question in the chat, someone wants to know if there are organizations they can contribute to to try to stop this, you know, to support the effort to stop And get the word out about, you know, human trafficking, child trafficking, and torture, etc.
Yes, there are quite a few organizations out there.
And unfortunately, I should have them at my disposal to broadcast, but I don't.
But yes, there are a number of organizations that are aware of this immense problem and they are trying to do something about it.
I think that's...
Well, I'll certainly in my book include probably in the epilogue section I will carry an appendix or something where all these various organizations that are legit because so many of these quote charities are part of the problem.
So I will share all that information out and have it available in the book.
But that's a good question.
I should probably have a couple of renovations that I've done.
Right.
Yeah, that would be great.
Just in terms of your own work as a therapist, I'm sure there may be some people listening who might want to use your services if you're still practicing in that way.
And or are there also what is your future sort of direction?
Can you talk at all about that?
Well, sure.
I hope to be part of this movement with this book on eradicating pedophilia and keeping kids safe.
I hope to be among the leaders of that because I have so much passion and compassion for children.
I've been pretty much working all of my adult life with children and they are so precious and so defenseless and vulnerable It becomes imperative.
We have to, we must take responsibility and take action to change this ugly system.
So that's foremost as definitely as I continue with the book.
Beyond that, I probably will continue doing investigative journalism.
I might write other books.
I'm all about Basically, uncovering the truth and exposing the evil one and getting them removed from power so we can replace it and not be same as the old boss.
Unfortunately, throughout history, throughout history, it's been same as the old boss.
You get one evil one out and you bring another evil one, corrupt one in.
And that's got to change.
We've got to break the history, break this pattern.
So, you know, It's exciting, it's scary at the same time.
But we are at the brink, I believe, of fundamental change that is so desperately and horribly needed at this time in the industry.
Okay, now do you have an email address that you want to share with people if they want to get in touch with you?
Sure, I don't mind sharing my email address.
I will spell it out.
N-A-N-D-R-T, T as in Tom, A-L, nandertal at hotmail.com.
Okay, can you say it again?
I'm going to type it while you say it, and I'll put it in the chat.
So it's what?
Okay.
N-A-N, N as in Nancy, A as in America, Nancy.
D as in Don.
R as in Radical.
T as in Tom.
A as in America.
L as in Lucky.
N-A-N-D-R-T-A-L at Hotmail.com So I'll just put that in the chat for people.
All right.
Well, that's great.
And are you continuing to do therapy?
You know, you're probably quite busy with what you're doing now.
Well, I'm over here in Bali now, and I've pretty much changed course.
I'm also an astrologer, so I still am open to doing that.
But you need to have a life practice.
And when I left California several years ago and became a journalist, I gave up my license as a therapist for practice in California.
So I don't do that anymore.
But I am an astrologer as well.
But I can still do.
Okay.
Well, that's great to hear.
And I'm sure that, you know, people may want to contact you on that level as well.
Well, you sound like a very knowledgeable guy and certainly very well-rounded as well, which is really refreshing.
So it's great to, you know, to meet you and have you on the show.
I hope we can bring you back if you'd like.
You know, if you have a subject that you've been delving into or a chapter that you've You want to, you know, talk about, you know, my doors open here at Project Hamlot.
And any parting words, I probably will close this down at this point.
We try to keep the sort of discussions into under two hours, if humanly possible.
Not always possible.
I do anticipate meeting up with you again.
I am going to be doing a chapter...
On basically the misuse of our children for the space program as well, which is kind of you're out and was out there and all of that.
So that's going to be one of my last chapters in the book.
But definitely we'll be in touch and we'll have many more discussions.
And I appreciate your opportunity to basically put the word out there.
We need to educate and inform people.
Absolutely.
All right.
Well, thank you very much and have a great night, everyone.
I'll be back tomorrow.
And I don't have my schedule in front of me.
I've got, you know, it's on the website.
I think we've got Tony Gosling.
But I'll let our guests go here before I kind of go down the track on what we've got coming up.
Thanks so much, really, Joaquin.
It's wonderful to have you on the show.
Thank you, George.
Okay.
Good night.
So that's really great to be able to talk to him about all of what's going on.
And I hope that, you know, You can get the word out to family and friends, people that maybe don't normally listen to this sort of thing.
It would be great if you could, you know, put the word out in that way.
So what I want to do is just let you know that I think I'm going to pull my calendar up really quick.
I have Tony Gosling tomorrow.
Let's see, not tomorrow, but Thursday morning.
And he's going to be talking about, actually, a woman's article, a very fascinating article about false flags and how this woman, they, I don't know if they actually did it or if they attempted to do it, but her name is Caitlin, and the last name I've written to her, I tried to get in touch with her.
He published, sort of reposted her article, so it came to my notice, and basically she We're going to be talking about that.
I've invited her to join us, although I don't know if she'll get my Twitter.
Also, David Wynn Miller is coming back.
He's been on my show before, so that should be really interesting to have him back on the show.
And that is going to be 7 p.m.
on Thursday night.
Had a cancellation, so tomorrow night is open unless I get another guest that shows up.
And then on Friday, I've got Harry Cooper, fascinating guy, an expert on U-boats apparently, and Hitler.
He's written a book called Hitler in Argentina.
We're going to be talking about the Fourth Reich.
And how that all sort of came together throughout history and is alive and well here in America, as most people know.
So we're going to talk about that at one o'clock on Friday.
So that's what's happening.
So thanks for watching and listening and have a great night.
Take care.
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