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Nov. 15, 2017 - Project Camelot
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DUDI MAROSHI INTERVIEWS KERRY CASSIDY RE SPIRITUAL MATTERS
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Thank you.
Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm here tonight with an interesting sort of experiment.
So this is not a shameless promotion.
It is actually someone who wanted to interview me, and he doesn't have a known channel and doesn't have a lot of subscribers, so we decided to do it here on my channel simply because I have the audience.
So he's kind of an unknown quantity.
And, um, however you want to put that.
And, uh, so I'm going to bring him on the screen here.
His name, uh, he goes by the name of Doody.
Uh, I think I'm saying this right.
Doody Maroshi.
Yes.
Okay.
And, uh, and, and just bear with me one second while we just identify the show and then, uh, we'll just, uh, get going here in just a second.
I'm going to just put this banner on here and make sure that shows up.
Because we have a short time lag between what I put on the screen and when it shows on YouTube, so it's kind of interesting.
Okay, so now we'll bring both of us on the screen.
Right.
So, Doody, welcome to Project Camelot.
And I understand that you've been following or participating in Project Avalon.
And that's Bill Ryan's, you know, website and forum.
And so I guess you've been over there for however long.
And if you could introduce yourself, I do have a short bio on my site for you.
I understand you're a software engineer.
And I'm just gonna let you kind of take the reins here because this is supposed to be your interview of me.
Okay, thank you.
Well, I'm Dudu Maroshi.
I'm known as a pathwalker in Project Avalon since 2010.
My interest is mostly spiritual matters and I am Quite shy as we got to the internet and due to recent events in my life and in the public domain, I decided it's time to shine out the light and speak out about spiritual matters that affect us all.
And my daily drama is about family and software engineering.
I like to present myself as a spiritual soul in a body, in Israel, on earth, on third dimension.
So all those aspects are of interest of me and my daily life.
And I believe I reached you because I believe your beliefs And wisdom has a great impact on the growing truth conscious and the planet as a whole.
And I believe your thoughts are, let's say, a thinking leader for the planet and the way we go on.
And I think it's very important for us to hear what's your aspect On the spiritual dealings and drama that we are going on beyond, I would say, the daily conspiratorial drama that we deal with.
Okay.
Well, thank you for your interest.
Not sure I'll have anything worthwhile to say here, but I'm happy to You know, lend what ideas I do know and some of my thoughts on whatever questions you wish to ask.
Okay.
I prepared quite an extensive list that we can pick from and select whatever is fit to your agenda and your style.
I believe the most important thing is the first two questions is, what is a soul?
And what is important and how do you know it in its existence?
And what makes you so sure about it?
Okay, so I guess what I'm doing here is starting up another recording just in case we lose this, which you never know what's going to happen.
Okay, so well, all I can say is that I have studied Eastern philosophy and Since I was quite young, and I started meditating at a very young age as well, for some reason I came into this incarnation with a knowledge of the type of things that have to do with enlightenment.
And I was interested in that as a very young child.
And so I decided when I was in my very early 20s, And earlier than that to try to reach what is called Samadhi and enlightenment in the sense that the yogis do it.
And so I basically, I didn't study with a teacher.
I just went out and read some books about it.
And I studied occult literature.
I studied Eastern philosophy, as I say, and the I Ching and Wow, a lot of spiritual texts as a young person growing up and then as I got into college and all of that.
So by the time I reached around 21, I had moved to New York City and I decided to...
I had a situation where I was staying in a friend's loft in what's called Soho.
This is many years ago now, actually.
And I decided to spend most of my time meditating and connect all my chakras and, in essence, try to reach enlightenment.
And so I was kind of my own Guinea pig, if you will, and it worked.
And I did it at a good age to do that.
I was, you know, obviously, you know, just turning, well, quite young.
And so I had very active, young people have automatically a very active kundalini energy.
In the West, we call it orgone.
I've done several presentations over the years on these subjects, and you can find that on my YouTube channel.
So my understanding of spiritual matters, as I titled this sport on your behalf, is that we do all, if we're human, and even various ETs and so on, may have access to having a soul, and that we are eternal.
And that the soul is a crystallized, basically...
It's an encapsulation of who we are.
It's the essence of who we are.
And I believe that the soul is created over time.
I'm embodied right now in a human body, but my soul goes on.
And as I go through various incarnations, the soul gathers wisdom and so on and refines itself.
And moves on a path back to source, in essence.
So it can take as long or as short as you wish, in a certain sense.
And it is all time and space are simultaneous, in my view.
Which means that we are, if we come from source, we are always part of source, and we return to source.
And so this is a journey That we see in a sort of a linear fashion, but that's an illusion.
And so I'm not sure if I'm, you know, if you have further questions, I'll be glad to answer them.
I will say that I have interviewed James of the Wingmakers from a website called wingmakers.com.
And he said, not that long ago on his website, he said, and he believes he's Primarily from sort of a spokesperson, from Lyra, that system.
And he says that in this sort of, I guess, during these years, that the soul and the nature of the soul will become much more understood here on planet Earth.
So that's...
Okay.
My interest is in the spiritual matters of the soul and the lore, L-O-R-E, of the soul.
And these are the essence of my questions.
I would like to ask you about what makes you so sure that it exists, whether it's not a dream, maybe it's a virtual reality.
Ah, well...
You know, we are at this time dealing with artificial intelligence and our sort of awakening to the presence of that and also creating our own.
And I believe that we've been invaded many times over the planet, so by various races.
And there's a very long saga that I believe is best...
I guess you might say characterized in the Voyager books, the Ashayana Dean Voyager books, and those are in essence downloaded from a race of beings called the Guardians, and that's a multiplicity of races that many of whom are directly related to us.
I believe there are 12 We call them ET, but you could call them interdimensionals, etc., that are related to us and that have to do with creating this human vehicle.
But, of course, we are spirit first and we are embodied here on Earth at this time in a human vehicle, but at other times we may embody other kinds of vehicles like, for example, reptilians or...
Mantids or any other kinds of vehicles.
These are simply vehicles to experience what is in essence 3D going into 4D and 4D. There is a reason to believe some of these races are what you call six-dimensional and so on.
But eventually form, you no longer have form.
So say you go up through I think you are on different levels of light, of a light being probably, up through the dimensions.
And some people say there are 15 dimensions and a certain number of densities.
I'm not a person who's big on numbers and numbering things, so I can't say how many there are.
But I can say that It is often said that the Pleiadians, for example, are six-dimensional and so on.
So I believe that we do occupy other dimensions simultaneously.
And in essence, if you do believe that all time and space are simultaneous, then we are occupying several dimensions.
One, again, doesn't know how many, but in the literature, sometimes it goes in the numbers 12.
So it says, you know, you have 12 simultaneous incarnations at any one given density, I think, or dimension that it is.
I guess density and so on.
So, you know, you can read various books about this sort of thing.
A lot of it, I think, at a certain point when you meditate a lot and you go...
You ultimately realize that a lot of the verbiage that goes along with spirituality is immaterial, so to speak.
It's no longer needed after a certain point.
It's a crutch that we find useful or that souls find useful to dialogue here on Earth, to communicate with each other and to expand their understanding at any given time.
But certainly, religion will demonstrate that any kind of placing into a form, whether it's language or this physical body, is kind of ultimately missing the point of who and what we are.
It's limiting.
The physical is limiting.
That's our challenge in here.
Why do you think it's important, if at all, to speak about this matter of the soul and our connectedness?
Well, all I can say is that my connection with Source is very clear to me and always has been.
I understand that not everyone feels that way in this incarnation.
Which doesn't mean they're never going to feel that way or whatever.
It's just a system, a timing kind of thing, which again is really an illusion.
So for me, I am aware of the greater whole, which is in essence source.
And so I am also linked up very well with my higher self.
And I get information and directives and clear information that plays out in this world for me and has been very valuable to me.
And I highly recommend, you know, meditation as a great way to clear the pathway to what is called the higher self and to realizing, in essence, your connection to source.
Okay, so...
This connection or connectedness to Source, I would like to add that it's our own spiritual power.
And can you expand about our spiritual power as humans that we are devoid or, let's say, deceived to believe and to relinquish our power?
Can you speak about that?
Well, I'm not sure exactly what you're meaning by your question.
I mean, I'm sure some people are deceived, and some people like to use so-called power over others, which they consider to be a sort of a spiritual power, which isn't really.
Like the illusion of power is an illusion, and the top-down sort of pecking order, hierarchical world that we live in It is, again, an illusion.
However, it's a powerful illusion, and it's one in which we, you know, it's kind of the way I see it is, you might say, it's a play.
It's a board game.
It's something that we've come to this planet, this plane, to experience.
And therefore, we're doing this exercise, if you will, or this play, taking part in it, and we take a form.
And that form allows us to attract certain kinds of experiences and possibly repel others, etc.
And this is for the process of self-realization, for recognizing who we are in a greater sense and who, in essence, source is, because we are all as part of source.
In other words, source is manifesting all.
So the more you get to know yourself and others, the more you get to know source.
It's the way I see it.
There is a natural power that comes along with spiritual knowledge, which is only when it's truth.
True power, if you want to call it power, on a spiritual plane is really about truth and again your your sort of connection with source so this is simply a vehicle it's it's it's you know the way you would go in and out of your car or something you know the car is a vehicle so I I don't get hung up so much on that if you're if you're talking about spiritual power over others there are
lots of races that are making the mistake Of thinking that this is true power in a spiritual sense, when in reality it is simply, actually it's the lack of power that creates a sense of insecurity and a desire to be empowered over others.
And in essence, to dominate others, etc.
And all of this comes from a lack of true sort of knowingness and not being in touch with who you really are and with the higher source and so on.
I mean, there are many things that we're doing here on planet Earth, and one of the things is recognizing that we are creators, just as we are We are a portion of the creator.
So we are creators.
I call it, in this, it's a useful sort of metaphor to say we're creators in training.
And so humans are learning in this vehicle, or as spirit, we're learning how to use this vehicle in this sort of plane to exercise and to learn how to be creators, given the limitations that we find ourselves in.
And in doing so, there's a great deal of learning that takes place.
There's service to others, which is also a great gift to learn.
And we begin to generate our own sort of light.
And this is a sort of a spiritual light.
Some people would call it power.
It's like the power of the sun, if you consider that power.
We are learning how to generate our own light as part of the Creator in this body.
And using this form.
So we may also do this experience, let's say, in another board game on another planet as another kind of a being and experience it, you know, from that vantage point.
Ultimately, what happens is light is created, you become a self-generating, you know, sun, star, etc.
And eventually the light will most likely become invisible and At least as we understand it through perception and the eyes.
But this is kind of the pathway.
Okay.
One of the controversies on Patrick Evelyn is are we present in the present planet?
And can we Release what's called the reptilian weed and what's your aspect on that matter?
Well, yes.
I mean, it's interesting because it's important to understand that there have been Let's say imbalances of power here on this in this plane and on planet Earth and many of us came here purposefully to assist with rebalancing the what is in essence the yin and yang positive and negative of this sector and to to make it like you might call it a more fair fight.
So that opposition in this sector can be very useful.
So the dark serves the light is the way I say it.
And I think it's an interesting way to look at it.
I think the metaphor holds.
And so if you understand that, then you understand that they, in essence, are learning from us.
Those of us that have embodied the light to a sufficient degree will ultimately be the teachers of the dark.
But I'm not one of those who...
You know, there's a lot of layers to understanding this story.
And depending on the layer or your position in the story and kind of where you're coming from, and maybe you could say where you're going, different metaphors, different layers of the onion hold truth for that layer.
But it's not necessarily...
Truth for all layers.
And I know that sounds a bit sort of, you know, opaque or something.
But at any rate, it has to do with the idea that this gets into, you know, I think some of the spiritual doctrines out there, such as the Bhagavad Gita, which is something that I studied in depth when I was quite young, really tells the story best.
Because in the Bhagavad Gita, they talk about the key character who's called Arjuna.
And he has a dilemma.
He is here on planet Earth.
He is faced with his brother.
And his brother has different beliefs and wishes to go to war with him.
And so he doesn't want to kill his brother.
So he's talking to...
Krishna, who is, at least in the sort of Indian philosophy, is a kind of a god or an embodiment of god or a god.
Or multifaceted, actually, Krishna being a multifaceted god from their point of view.
But he is having a dialogue with God about this dilemma and what should he do because he'd rather just lay down his arms and not kill his brother.
And, in essence, what he is told is that he must stand for something, that he must, in essence, do justice to the realm in which he finds himself.
And, therefore, he must fight and try to be the embodiment of, you know, the truth and the light and so on in the situation that he finds himself in.
So it's understanding that we are here in 3D going into 4D, And so you use the tools that you have at your disposal to, you might say, communicate with this realm.
And when you leave the realm, you will be using other tools.
But your understanding can be multilayered and multifaceted so that I don't think Arjuna will lose the sense of love for his brother.
But he does understand that he...
They have come onto a battlefield which is this interplay of dark and light which is 3D going into 4D that there are lessons to be learned and that each side is embodied in a physicality in order to take part in a great play in a great manifestation and so if you're not true to that Then you will,
as it happens, it appears, you are destined to repeat it over and over again until you kind of get it.
And you have to get it on many levels so that eventually you will ascend, in essence.
Which simply means that you'll leave this sector and go up through the levels on your way back to Source.
There's a lot of philosophies that say, like Nietzsche, who is greatly misunderstood, but one of the things that Nietzsche talked about, and he is a brilliant philosopher, and I did study him quite a bit, and I would say that he is talking about what is, in essence, he says, an endless return.
So that you have the choice, even in going back to source, to again leave source, if you want to call it leaving, and we're talking about in a linear kind of a sense just for the purposes of the discussion and for understanding this idea of constant return that Nietzsche talks about.
And what that is all about is the idea that you can kind of understand it in the sense that what else do you have to do?
It's a manifestation.
It's a play.
A spirit as part of source.
It's like, you know, at play in the fields of the Lord is a good sort of saying that reflects...
What's happening there.
So personally, I know there are lots of people that are very invested, let's say, in the notion of ascension and getting out of here and, you know, going to the next level.
And they see it as a sort of a, I see it as what is called spiritual materialism.
But spiritual materialism is not the goal.
And it's sort of a mistaken understanding of what it really means to be, if you want to call it, enlightened.
And so I have more of a sort of, I guess you might say, an affinity for a resonance for the notion of the bodhisattva, and I've mentioned this before in other places, which has to do with the enlightened one who In essence, decides to return to the planet.
In other words, and there's a metaphor for that, which is you reach the top of the mountain and you turn back and you go back down and tend the garden.
So that has a lot of...
Resonance for me, and I believe that that is, you know, a worthy path, let's say.
It's not the only path necessarily, but I think it's one to consider as being very valid here on planet Earth, and I'll tell you why.
Because the notion is that just because you reach enlightenment or some level there is, and let me say that enlightenment is not a destination, it's a journey.
Which means that it's a constantly unfolding journey and going back to source and becoming, you know, like I say, going through the stages of becoming, in essence, larger.
I think, you know, it's again a metaphor, but if you can think of it as a star, as a sun, you know, a huge life-generating body.
And then...
Even going to the place where you're helping as many beings are doing, which is helping the beings that decide to come in and play On these levels and helping them achieve their aims and also to go to the next levels and so on and so forth.
So there's a great unseen world that is also highly active behind the scenes here.
So if you can think of yourself as having, if you do reach a level of enlightenment, it's worthwhile to look around you and see what's the status of the other beings that are here on Earth.
And whether or not they have the same sort of realizations.
And so, again, the notion of the bodhisattva is that, in essence, you could think of it as once you join this game and you're part of humanity, perhaps the notion may be that it's not good enough for you just to you to reach it, that everyone needs to.
So that at some point you wish to assist with that process.
And so you can lend your light to that sort of process.
And I think that's a worthwhile exercise and mission.
You could call it your mission.
Some people choose to call it their mission and so on.
So, you know, I think it depends what you would like to do.
And each incarnation, of course, will be a different manifestation on a level.
And I think it's also important to keep in mind that the basic sort of unit, or whatever you want to call it, of the universe, megaverse, whatever, multiverse, is, I believe, the spiral.
And so the spiral becomes a very important element.
Image for what it's really like when you so-called incarnate into various bodies, etc.
You go, if you want to call it going up the spiral, you go up the spiral.
You're not just going into a circle.
It's not just a never-ending Groundhog Day, for example.
It's more a spiral.
So each time you go around, you're seeing things from a different vantage point in a little bit higher level, if you want to look at it like that.
Assuming that you are on an ascension path.
There are, they say, some people that get to certain places and they kind of, you know, one step forward, two steps back.
They may be on a descending spiral.
In part because they are choosing to become more embedded in what is in essence this 3D material world.
And they get sucked in and deceived and taken away.
Off target, so to speak, if you want to call it that.
And so they will spend more time re-experiencing various levels to re-familiarize themselves with the things that they might have missed on the way up, if you want to call it that.
And so it's a choice.
And I believe that each, at many junctures along our trajectory, our incarnation in life, we have These crossroads, these places where we take a choice, and those choices are instrumental in sending us, you might say, sort of up for the next level and so on.
I do see this sector, and I see many of the sectors, as a kind of a school.
I do follow to some degree what is called the raw material, the notion of, you know, service to self versus service to others and the paths that people take.
There's a great deal of wisdom in the raw material.
However, I have also seen limitation in the raw material.
I've seen places where there's obfuscation, where they do not actually tell you as much as they could.
So, you know, I think it's important that if you're looking into spiritual texts and channeled material, channeled material being quite dangerous, because, and I agree with James of the Wingmakers, who actually says that there is in essence a sort of, you might call it a whirlpool of channeled material that's surrounding the earth as a layer.
And the people that are channeling are often tapping into what is in essence a It's kind of like dirty water, the way I sort of see it.
It's been recycled or spun over and over again, the same old stuff over and over again.
And religion, of course, is mimicking all this as well.
So it can be valuable.
It was once valuable.
But it's kind of dipping into the same waters over and over again.
And you just get people that are kind of...
You know, spouting off information that they aren't really, you know, they haven't really connected with or understand.
They're sort of in a kind of a trance that goes with what channelers do.
And it is a dangerous sidestepping of your sort of through line to source.
So it can be a dangerous path.
There are some good channelers.
They bring through good information.
What I understand happens a lot with this.
And I actually had this sort of an encounter with this when I was a young person and had a choice to make.
And I can tell you that the sidestepping that goes along with that sometimes doesn't allow the being that is inhabiting the body to fully experience this reality of Such that they will sort of learn the lesson thoroughly, grok it thoroughly, and act wholly and completely through this instrument.
In other words, if you can understand that, how I'm phrasing it.
And so they, in sidestepping and allowing other information, another being to come through, another sort of body of information that has been sort of generated by another original being, it can be detrimental to the physicality.
So it can cause illness, instability, and anxiety.
Well, you know, and if you want to know sort of evidence of this, then you can just look at the channelers of the raw material.
There is the one woman who I actually did meet in person at one point, but, you know, one of the other people committed suicide, and there's been some fallout and various things, and she herself has had, probably would testify to the physical toll that this kind of,
So, uh, the raw material being one of the better channeled, you know, texts out there, but not the only channeled, uh, accurate channel text.
And again, it having its own, uh, sort of filtering with the human filtering that it went through.
And, uh, also going back to Egypt, uh, raw himself, uh, his issues and, um, You mentioned some of your principles for discerning spiritual wisdom.
Can you share about what's your principle to identify what is truth and what is not, what is deceiving, what is empowering and what is not empowering?
Well, I would say that, you know, it's important not to...
Okay, there's a lot of pitfalls along that road of discernment, and it's actually, you know, very key.
And all of us will have gone through our lives making good choices and bad choices.
So obviously, this is part of the learning experience, you know, like a child has to, you know, sort of touch the fire in order to realize that it really burns.
So there's no really negative judgment on making wrong choices.
It's part of the process.
And in the end, you know, we all go back to the same place.
So Again, time is an illusion.
Space is an illusion.
So there's no judgment on the amount of time you wish to take on your journey of experiencing and sort of re-familiarizing yourself.
Because in many ways, I believe, as a spiritual being, in this sort of embodiment, what we're really doing is trying to...
It's kind of like Alice in Wonderland.
We are a very large being, And we're trying to fit in a kind of a small container.
And we're trying to put our essence into that container.
And it's not easy, you know, to learn how to manipulate and act in this space, occupying the space, with that mentality in mind.
And it's important not to bypass certain parts of the vehicle that are...
Built to assist with discerning.
And I'm going to have to go get my tea because I left it over there.
But in essence, I would say that you have to use your heart and your mind in sort of unison.
And then I would say a third piece, which is in essence your higher self.
To really understand whatever you're coming across and maybe suspend judgment on a certain level.
It's not our place to be the judge and jury, in my view, of others.
Or even to pass judgment and so on.
That is, in essence, part and parcel of the The dynamic and the momentum of the very sort of fabric of what we're part of, that any action will sort of instigate its reaction.
And so what humans are calling judgment and vengeance and all this sort of thing, it's already embodied in this material reality and will come back to a person who will...
Sort of need to relearn certain things and see it from other vantage points.
So if they are the...
What most people do is they go through life or through the various lives, in fact, as power over and then being a victim.
And they flip from one side to the other constantly.
It's only as you come into balance and understanding, as you You tend to flip less often and you start to center yourself.
In the middle.
And that's why it's called the middle road, the yellow road, and so on.
This is the idea that you begin to come into balance and you don't have to flip so much.
But you do need to have understanding that this is the method by which this sector allows for learning to take place.
And we're all teachers and we're all learners, students, if you will.
So in the Seth material it talks about that notion of being a teacher and a student in this life and simultaneously we're in both roles and often find ourselves flipping between both roles.
So I think that's an important part.
But if you want to know how to discern truth I think you need to listen within.
And I know that a lot of people especially in this age They seem to want to use external methods to tell themselves what's true.
In other words, they don't want to look inside by sort of, you might say, closing your eyes and kind of looking inside.
They want to see it outside.
So they want to use a pendulum or they want to use, you know, a dowsing rod or they want to, you know, like a Scientologist, they want to see some needle on some machine go one way or another or something.
You know, and I have to say that these are all crutches.
Ultimately, you don't need those crutches.
The instrument we have been given, this instrument we call a physical body, contains within it everything you could possibly need to discern the truth.
And you have only to look within.
And in looking within, you're ultimately...
You know, looking into source, etc.
So, you know, we all have the ability to do that.
I realize some people have been blocked and crutches are just what they are.
They're crutches.
They can be useful for a time.
And so I'm not judging the people that use them.
I'm simply saying...
You can do it without them as well.
It's just like drugs, you know, can show you some form or fashion.
LSD kind of gives you an idea what nirvana is like and samadhi and so on.
So they can be useful.
Okay.
Regarding the discerning muscle, I call it, can you study a text?
And decide, well, this is truthful for me, this is enabling, empowering, disempowering, and so forth.
What's your aspect of judging?
Let's say the raw material is good, or it's empowering, it's deceiving, and so forth.
So what's your tool to decide about those wisdoms?
Well, you can test it for yourself.
So you can listen to yourself.
You can see how it Resonates, if it hits you in a good way.
And learning that kind of process, it's like any other process you've learned in life, whether it was learning to walk or, you know, cook something following a recipe, and then eventually you can cook it without following the recipe.
It's kind of like you just use the instrument you have and begin to trust that instrument.
So, The more you try and test, the more you find out what works and what doesn't.
There's no way to avoid, in essence, falling down or mistakes or whatever you want to call that.
In fact, you learn far, far more from those than you do from success, has been my experience.
Success is kind of an ending as opposed to a beginning.
It's a motivator.
Success is motivated to go on the path.
Well, yes, but it can also be kind of a...
It can also be a release.
It can also be a stopping, a kind of a death, if you want to call it that.
So let's say you become an expert pianist and you become so fabulous that there's almost nowhere else to go.
In terms of your technique.
You may actually find your mind drifting because you no longer are caught up with the process of learning.
Once the learning is done, it's you.
It's already embodied in you.
So you no longer need to dwell on it, look at it, etc.
You might spend some time Experiencing the joy of it and the joy of your expertise.
But you will probably spend a lot less time doing that, and that's in the world of success, than you will have getting to the place.
So it's the journey, you know, as they say, the journey that matters.
It's really that that keeps you kind of hooked in, is the journey.
And what somebody else might call failure, because this can spur you on, especially once you learn how to accept failure in that way, as I would call failure the motivator, as opposed to success.
Success can be kind of like a place, it's like a plateau where you kind of wipe your brow and go, okay, phew, I can rest here for a moment.
Because I've achieved something.
You know what I mean?
But you cannot live on success.
It doesn't feed you.
It simply gives you a moment of sort of rest and repose and achievement, which, you know, is lovely in itself, but it's fleeting.
It doesn't, you know, because it's the nature of becoming that it's a constant It's just like I say, enlightenment.
Again, it's not the end.
It's a constant enlightening.
So there is no end in sight.
And this is what makes it a wonderful challenge.
And this is what keeps it attracting you over and over again.
So I would say if you're looking at something, I think the biggest mistake people make along these roads is not to trust themselves.
Not to trust the instrument, the heart that they have, the uniqueness that they have, their unique vision being different than everyone else's.
They tend to look outside themselves for authorities and others of all kinds to tell them, even peers, they are right.
They are, you know, pat them on the head.
Tell them, you know, disclosure is coming because the government's going to tell you disclosures here.
When you know in your heart and soul that you've met an ET or you've met this one or that one and you know it's a multiple reality situation and you've been to, you know, Mars or Pluto or wherever else in your light body.
And, you know, in other words, not trusting yourself.
So discernment and trusting this instrument, the self, and learning to trust yourself and learning to To know when you've made the wrong kind of mistake or what took you off the path or where you fell down or hurt yourself.
Because, of course, pain is an indicator that you basically have quite possibly been off the mark, right, in your estimation, in your reading of your self-reading of what you discern from a situation and so on.
So...
I think it's so important to understand that everyone has gifts, to begin to tune into those gifts.
To experiment and never to stop experimenting and never to stop growing and not to listen to other people who will either tell you, no, you're wrong, you're this, you're that, or pat you on the head and praise you to death.
Actually, in many ways, the praise is far worse than the criticism in the end.
Because the praise can be very deadening as well as the criticism.
So, you know, it kind of depends.
Different people like different roads.
All paths lead to the same place, as they say.
So some people benefit more from praise, and other people benefit from the challenge of, you might say, criticism and are more contrary to I am the sort of person who, if you tell me, no, something can't be done, then I am spurred on to do it.
And I'm not looking for pats on the head, etc.
Some people do tend too much towards the pats on the head and positive reinforcement, as it's called.
In the end...
You know, you will again, in sort of flipping from one to the other, you will come to the middle of that as well, to where you can accept both, you know, with a certain amount of grace.
So in essence, even the spiritual material which is polarized, whether to the light or to the dark, You don't judge it.
You say it's okay to go on either path.
It's correct for that soul and it's part of the evolution.
Right?
Is that correct?
Well, you know, again, this is a matter of layers.
For example, the way I see the situation on planet Earth is that we're in an unbalanced situation.
That we came in here on purpose to experience what such an unbalanced sector would be like.
And that doesn't mean I don't see evil as evil and good as good.
And it doesn't mean that I think that someone shouldn't, you know, in other words, that I wouldn't try to help somebody onto the path of light as opposed to the path of darkness.
Ultimately, the path of darkness will lead to the light Because that's a dead end.
And I can't tell you how I know this.
I just know this.
So it's kind of where they're going to go.
And most of the time in life, you cannot tell somebody what to do and you can't live it for them.
So if they wish to go down a dark path, Then they're going to choose that path regardless of what you say or do.
Ultimately, the soul will.
It may take years.
You might delay them, for example.
You might get them into believing that they're following the light, and they may believe that for a period of time until they realize that...
Perhaps they have been following the dark all the time.
In other words, these things are all things that we can only know about ourselves.
It is not, again, something that someone else can know for you.
And it's also something you cannot walk for another person down the path or another being.
That being must ultimately walk down the path on its own.
Now, I know one of your questions was about, you know, multiple entities taking over a body and possession and this sort of thing.
And of course, this is the kind of thing that is going on here on planet Earth.
And it is happening.
So, you know, I would say that it's a reality, which means that you're going to have sometimes multiple beings using a body, using a vehicle.
Sometimes the spirit that is allowing them in, and sometimes they're going against their will.
And they're, again, learning that experience, and they're allowing that to happen in order to learn the experience.
So they may step aside.
The original occupant of the body may be kicked out permanently.
And go elsewhere.
Because in essence, if you are spirit and you have a soul, you never truly die anyway.
So I don't know if that is answering the question you were asking.
Okay.
It's not really about the question, it's about the answer.
Okay.
What I'm still hanging on is about...
Is it really important from your perspective to discern whether a specific wisdom is polarized at all?
If it's dark or light?
I think it's important, and this is in the raw material, so if you want to learn more about it, I would encourage you to read about polarization there.
But again, it gets back to Arjuna and the choice.
In other words, you must choose, and you will choose, whether you think you're choosing or not.
You are always choosing.
And so it's the nature of this material reality that simply, you know, you kind of vote with your feet whether you like it or not.
And so you are somewhere on this planet, you know, you have major choices.
You have chosen those things, light or dark, etc., etc., that you surround yourself with.
So it's impossible to stay...
It's unpolarized, but you can be not polarized enough, which means you can be in this sort of la-la land, which a lot of New Agers are, let me say that.
They make the mistake of thinking...
It's kind of, again, back to the Arjuna, which the Bhagavad Gita is a very brilliant text.
It's kind of a distillation of a lot of philosophy from India and the Upanishads, etc.
And I would say that the notion that some people like to, in essence, give their light or their love, what they call love, although it's probably not truly love, but at any rate, some Some sort of sympathy to the dark.
And they think in doing so that they are...
I guess doing some positive notion of making the world a better place.
But in my view, this is a mistaken notion.
It is not that you need to hate the dark.
It's more that you actually need to be rather...
Detached with regard to the dark.
That the ultimate understanding is understanding that the dark isn't in essence an illusion, that this being has chosen as a learning experience and to see it more in that light and not to be giving your energy away because the dark loves to suck dry individuals from the The sort of New Age sector who are misled on a number of different levels often because they wish to give away their light,
you know, with some mistaken notion of self-sacrifice, etc.
Okay.
So regarding the discernment and I would say multiple occupants of the body, Let's talk about spiritual or psychic attacks and defense.
If you're going on a spiritual path, one should flex its muscles and learn how to protect itself from the dangers out there.
So let's talk about learning how to protect ourselves and And not putting our hands in the fire.
Well, first of all, in a certain sense, you are going to experience the fire, so to speak.
And none of us is immune, having a physical body and a physical reality.
So there will be times in which we do experience that, come up against the fire, if you want to call it that.
Or, you know, a closed door or, you know, whatever it is.
But if you sort of understand that for what it is, you can turn it...
And then ultimately, it does create good.
It's a very strange thing, but if you look back in your life, I believe most people will see that a lot of the very things that they thought were negative and sometimes brought with them the very positive and the next step on the path, so to speak, and the next challenge.
So...
Protecting yourself, well, this gets back into, you know, meditation and your through line and your sort of link up with your higher self and with source.
So if you have that, you know, some people wish to see that as believing in Jesus or God or calling him by certain names, etc.
Allah, whatever you want to call these things.
Yeah.
Actually, sorry about this, but we can't...
The plan is not to have other people on this.
I have to lock this.
Sorry.
So, sorry about that.
So, the plan is not to have...
Actually, I'm losing my train of thought here.
Basically...
Maybe you can sort of reframe the question.
You're basically asking about discernment and all of that, right?
More than that, about protecting yourself.
Oh, right, protection.
Okay, so in essence, I tend to see this reality, this light and dark, this interplay of light and dark, and this vehicle that we occupy, etc., etc., as a battle zone, as a war of worlds.
And I think if you study long enough and deep enough, you will see that indeed it appears to be so.
And that doesn't mean just on the planet, but it also has to do with various beings from off planet who we are related to and indeed may have been before we came into this incarnation, etc., etc.
And so there is a constant battle going on between the light and the dark.
And it is to take part in the battle that we have chosen to come here.
So to deny that is to, in essence, deny the whole reason you came and ultimately means that you possibly won't really sort of integrate the lessons that you have here to learn, the remembrance that you wish to bring back around and to understand and so on and so forth.
So learning to protect oneself is like being a warrior.
You learn To shield yourself, right?
So a warrior has a sword, and the sword is symbolic of the mind, and they have a shield to protect themselves, and they also have to be in good physical condition.
And so I would highly say that because you're part of a...
A battle, in essence, on planet Earth, between light and dark.
It behooves you to stay in good shape, to stay awake and aware, to be as clear as possible, and to engage, not to shun the world or turn away from it, because ultimately you came here to encounter it, so to speak.
And for it to encounter you, and to bring your gifts, etc.
So it is an interplay, and it is a great drama that you've decided you wanted to come and be part of.
So I think it's best to embrace it, you know, and embrace one's destiny, if you want to call it that.
Now, I told you before we started that I know you have to go to work, and I know it's very early in Israel, and I also wanted to say that we have one hour, that I wanted to allow one hour for this discussion.
So we're at our limit at this point.
I appreciate your questions.
Okay, thank you.
Would you like to say anything?
I appreciate your answers.
Would you like to say any parting remarks and where people can find you?
They know where to find me, so...
Okay.
First, I would like to express my gratitude and appreciation for you.
And one of the things that we all can learn from you is discernment, spiritual discernment.
And sovereignty, sovereignty of the mind and sovereignty of the soul.
That's one of the aims of this session was to learn sovereignty.
Hopefully people will understand that.
And more than that, people can learn more about spiritual and the role of the soul on my YouTube channel.
There are some talks with Franco de Nicola and other teachers coming on into that channel.
And in general, looking into spiritual materials about the soul is the first step into learning your power of the soul and your power of spiritual sovereignty, which I believe the drama is to take back And to learn how to express our power and creation of power using our sovereignty.
And that's my motto.
Okay, thank you very much.
It's very nice to meet you.
And, you know, thank you for your interest and the opportunity to talk with you.
And I'm sorry that we don't have time for questions.
You know, I have another show tomorrow night.
And so welcome everyone to watch it.
It's going to be an interview with Stan Larimer.
He is called the father of BitShares, I think it is.
And so we'll be going down that road with him.
So that should be very interesting.
And thank you again, Doody Maroshi.
And it's been a lot of fun to talk with you.
Thank you, you too.
Okay, take care.
Okay.
Okay, and thanks everyone.
I appreciate it.
And so at this time, I'm going to sign off.
And I hope you enjoyed this show.
And it was kind of fun, a fun experiment.
And something that I don't often talk about because my interviews don't really, they're not really about these subjects necessarily and so on.
So, you know, thanks for watching at any rate.
And like I say, I'll be back tomorrow night.
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And thank you for the people that have donated up to now to keep this project going and alive.
I also want to say to people that I have a very interesting sort of short interview that I did today, as a matter of fact.
It was very impromptu, and it was with an individual called Fred who stumbled on a hangar.
In, I believe it was, I'm not sure if it's Minnesota.
I think it might have been.
And it's a northern, northeastern state where he believes he came across the staging area for one of the faked part of the moon landing.
And so you can watch that on my YouTube channel.
It's a lot of fun and quite interesting.
He tells a number of stories in addition to that.
And he's a fascinating guy.
He worked for the airlines for, I guess, his whole career.
And he's 90 years old.
And so I highly recommend that.
It is now on my YouTube channel, and it's also on my Project Camelot portal.com.
You can also get to my website at projectcamelot.tv and watch it there.
So thanks again for watching tonight, and I'll be back tomorrow night.
So take care.
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