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DARCY WEIR & LEE LUSTIG - PHIL SCHNEIDER -THE MOVIE

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	Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here tonight I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to
	I've got some very interesting guests and we're going to be talking about the death of Phil Schneider and his life and some very interesting things about him all based on a new documentary by Darcy Weir and Lee Lustig.
	And I'm going to bring them right on the show here for y'all right now.
	So here we are, live and in color.
	And guys, say hello to everyone.
	Hey there, guys.
	Thanks for watching.
	Carrie, thank you so much for having us.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
	Really glad to have you guys here.
	And...
	And we're going to just get going.
	I think that if anyone has a problem with sound, do let us know in the chat, but it looks like we're doing well at the moment.
	It's, like I say, great to have you here.
	Now, you guys have, well, I don't know if you've been working together on all the documentaries, but I did interview Darcy Weir not long ago with regard to a Bigfoot documentary, and that is a really wonderful one as well.
	This new one on Phil Schneider is excellent, so let me give it a plug there.
	And it's great to have you here.
	So what I'd like to do is, rather than introduce you guys, you know, with what you sent me, which is on my page.
	So if you go to ProjectHamlotPortal.com, you can read the bios that they sent me.
	I'd love you guys to put it in your own words for the public here.
	So why don't we start out with Lee Lustig.
	So go right ahead, Lee.
	Introduce yourself.
	Thank you.
	Hi, everyone.
	I'm Lee Lustig.
	I know no one has heard of me, but that's okay.
	I made a film with Darcy Wee here called The Underground.
	And the way this film came to be was basically, a few years ago, I was writing a screenplay about Phil Schneider to hopefully become a biopic.
	And Cynthia, Phil's wife, actually...
	She introduced me to Darcy.
	She said, oh, there's this guy, Darcy Weir.
	He's doing a documentary on Phil's story.
	She actually got me in touch with Darcy, and we started talking, and I started to help him with the film.
	Years went by.
	We noticed it got a lot of buzz on YouTube.
	It got a couple of million views in a year, I think.
	Darcy, correct me if I'm wrong about that, but We realized it's probably a good idea to update the film, make a shortened version, package it professionally, and that's what we have on Amazon today.
	It's the story of Phil Schneider as told mostly by his wife, Cynthia, and there's voiceover by myself, and we have another girl that does voiceover.
	It's an account of the murder.
	It's an account of Things that he did in his life that you might not be aware of from just watching his lectures.
	It's an account of his family history.
	And, you know, the sort of opinion that you'll get when you walk away from the documentary is not this guy was telling the truth or this guy was a liar.
	We kind of leave it up to the viewer to determine Whether they believe Phil's claims or not, for the people who aren't aware, Phil Schneider claimed that he worked on these underground bases in the U.S. for the United States military.
	He was a structural engineer, geologist.
	And he claimed that while building these underground bases, they found aliens underneath the Earth.
	And he spoke about this for a few years.
	I'm sorry, a few months.
	And then there was this mysterious murder where he was found dead in his apartment, strangled by his own catheter hose, which is also a detail that I'm not sure...
	I don't find that mentioned a lot on the internet.
	So there's a lot of stuff that we felt the need to bring to light related to Phil.
	And that's what we have today.
	Okay, thank you so much.
	So, Darcy, why don't you introduce yourself and give a bit of background for your own self regarding this film?
	Yeah, so I was...
	I don't know.
	This is...
	I published the initial documentary on YouTube, and I had done some collaboration.
	Most of the work had been done by me, and it was very, very rough, very, very immature.
	That was back in 2012, March of 2012.
	I was living in Australia at the time.
	And before that, when I was working on it for about two years, I was interviewing Cynthia Dreher who's Phil's late wife and I was recording audio from our interviews and she had told me about Lee and I was like sure I gotta reach out to this guy he sounds like amazing and if he's interested in this story then you know yeah he's got to be solid.
	So we ended up collaborating a little bit, and then I published that work, and we've stayed friends for years now since, you know, 2012-ish.
	And he actually did some early sound work on the Unwanted Sasquatch, which is the first doc that I published through Amazon, and you interviewed me about not too long ago.
	So, yeah, I mean, Phil Schneider's story really is where I cut my teeth and got involved in this whole world, and I Literally, my mind was fractured open when I started looking into this stuff in my early 20s.
	I would come home from work and I would just read all this conspiracy stuff and watch conspiracy videos.
	My mind was Blown by all the different theories out there.
	And I thought, you know what?
	Somebody should talk about this because there's so many.
	There's like Paul Benowitz who went crazy talking about Dulce, New Mexico, the underground bases.
	And, you know, Richard Doty was a big...
	Huge proponent and the misinformation and the task force that drove Paul Benowitz crazy.
	You know, you've got Phil Schneider going out.
	He was talking about this for a few years.
	It wasn't a few months.
	He was talking about the stuff in his later years.
	And he started, I think, actually, believe it or not, at a Bigfoot conference.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if that's kind of strange that I did a Bigfoot doc, but anyways...
	I don't think it's that strange.
	They're kind of related.
	Anything that's paranormal, that is out of the normal, that's not watching sports or worshipping the Cardassians or whatever, that interests me more because this world we live in is not simple.
	There's all kinds of stuff out there that don't have simple explanations and this story really attracted me.
	It really attracted me.
	We've been good friends ever since we got attracted to the story.
	I think the reason why Darcy and I really gravitated towards Phil is because for two reasons.
	One, it's probably the most bold claim related to the UFO phenomenon I've ever heard.
	The fact that there's aliens underground And the fact that this guy not only encountered them, but was in a battle with them, and they wounded him in this fight that broke out, that is probably the boldest claim I've ever seen related to the UFO phenomenon.
	So that's the reason why I think we became obsessed with this guy.
	And also, he's kind of undebunked.
	There's a lot of people on YouTube and on the internet that really kind of believe him.
	And I thought that was also interesting because it was kind of like this thing where maybe we never will know if he was telling the truth or not.
	But it's interesting because he was a higher math genius.
	I think he had an IQ of 140 in high school.
	Darcy, was that accurate?
	Yeah, it was very, very high.
	162.
	Yeah, high IQ. This wasn't just some guy that told the story.
	He was a guy with a really rich background, really interesting history.
	We have documents in the documentary of his work history, and you can see that he worked for Morrison Knudsen, and I'm blanking right now, but definitely was working for these big military contractors.
	He's not just some guy like a Bob Lazar who, you know, has no credentials and has this, which by the way, I'm not, I'm not knocking Bob Lazar at all.
	Well, actually, yeah, I mean, hold on a second.
	I didn't mean it like that.
	I love Bob too.
	I'm just saying that Phil is a guy where we can actually prove his work history.
	So that adds some credibility that is kind of rare with these type of people.
	I released the doc with the help of Lee recently.
	We remastered it and I put it up on a few UFO groups on Facebook just to say, hey guys, if you have an Amazon Prime account, go ahead and watch this for free.
	It's up there.
	It's just remastered.
	A little bit of new content.
	We just give better context for the whole story and better audio, better visuals, whatever.
	This guy, unlike some UFO hunters group, just unleashed on me and called me a charlatan and said that Phil Schneider's whole story is A farce and he sent me a link to some website which was just somebody's opinion to reinforce his opinion and he was going crazy about it and I said, look sir, watch the documentary.
	I'm not claiming that everything he did is true.
	There's nothing we can say to disprove it.
	Either way, we can't disprove it.
	We can only take the story and say, you know, this is interesting.
	There's a lot of professional speculators out there that have looked at the information that he had talked about, and some have proven certain things.
	We know that there is a base in Dulce, New Mexico.
	We know that there's a NORAD base.
	We know there's a base at the Salt Flats in Area 51.
	We know about bases out there where there's covert very The documentary wants to talk about that.
	We interviewed Richard Dolan.
	I'm a huge fan of him.
	I think both of us wanted to include more of the history of Ancient cultures and religions believing in subterranean beings or interdimensional beings.
	You can make a whole documentary on that.
	Just the sort of evidence or, you know, the stories about aliens living underground.
	But yeah, Dolan was great with sort of the historian's perspective on the hollow earth theory.
	I think that was...
	The thing that he added to the documentary.
	And also proving that the CIA has been guilty on paper.
	This is completely concluded that they have suicided people before, which is the act of making it look like a suicide, yet it was a murder.
	And when you look at the crime scene that...
	That happened for Phil's death.
	It just looks so suspicious, and all the facts are there.
	Well, let me ask you both.
	Just in terms of that, and in terms of having...
	I assume that you spoke with his wife, that's what you say, and so you got to know her maybe a bit, and...
	And so I am wondering, what is her perspective about his death?
	Does she buy into the mainstream or does she understand that he was, in essence, what we call suicided?
	Darcy, you want to take this or you want me to take this?
	You go for it now.
	Well, I flew to Portland in 2011, and I spent about a week face-to-face with Cynthia and Phil's daughter Marie.
	And I really got to know them really well.
	They're amazing people.
	And I spent the better part of the last few years talking to them on the phone, trying to write this screenplay.
	And they basically believe everything that Phil claimed about aliens underground and the things he's been through.
	Cynthia is under the impression that that stuff is true.
	That doesn't necessarily mean that she believes everything he says.
	There was this one tiny little detail that I remember Cynthia said she didn't believe, which is that Phil claimed that his father, Oscar, was a U-boat captain at one point, and she said that she basically found out that that wasn't true.
	But aside from that, I think everything else they've swallowed and accepted.
	As for the murder...
	You know, one thing that we totally did not explore in the documentary was the fact that Cynthia went to a few psychics and asked them, you know, well, she didn't ask them, but, you know, she was looking to find out anything about that murder.
	And I think she went to like three or four different psychics and they told her that he was killed by several people.
	One was a woman and there were like two to four men involved.
	I'm going to go ahead and say I think that's all we know.
	Darcy, I don't know if you've heard anything else, but...
	Well, I'll just add that even though Oscar Schneider didn't technically, you know, we can't prove that he was a U-boat captain, he did work for the American military.
	And he worked for NATO. Definitely.
	I mean...
	He worked on Two Secret.
	So that's the other thing that gives credibility to Phil Schneider's whistleblowing is that his father worked on very covert projects.
	And there's a lot of evidence for things that were not to be disclosed.
	That I've gotten a little hassled about from our friend here, Richard Dolan, is that there's documents out there that are in the documentary.
	There's more documents that he toured with tons.
	Pictures of UFOs flying away from Bikini Atoll when the military was testing the first nuclear bombs out there.
	His father was Involved in all this stuff.
	And when his father died, right around the time that he started going on lecture tour, Phil picked up a lot of these documents from his father's basement office.
	And Cynthia Schneider even told me this, Cynthia Dreher.
	And basically, that's one of the sort of smoking guns to the whole phenomenon is that there was somebody that Wouldn't come out and talk about this subject themselves, which was Oscar Schneider, but his son would.
	And that documentation, we included in the documentary, Richard Dolan said, oh, you know, if you go on Wikipedia, you can read and you can see that, like...
	One of the people that's written about in the letter, you know, he's clearly working here.
	He couldn't have been doing that at the same time.
	And I say...
	Dolan said that Condon was in a different state at the time that the letter was written or something like that.
	But it's like...
	I don't see that.
	Carrie, what do you think of that?
	The way the military works, you don't know where Condon was at any given time.
	Plus, you know, you can fly.
	They had airplanes.
	Lee Lustig being a military vet and actually being a covert Richard Doty type that's just trying to provide misinformation.
	He can write anything on Wikipedia.
	So why would Richard Dolan think that that is the credible source to go upon to discrediting any documents?
	Well, also, again, people, you know, fly anywhere.
	And, well, I have lots of evidence that someone can be flown somewhere for a day, for example.
	And there are so many different sort of permutations to that story and where, you know, where the document might have come from and how it could be generated and how it could be, you know, that doesn't prove anything to me.
	As far as I'm concerned.
	I think, you know, you have to look at the overall picture.
	You have to look at the other witnesses that have come forward about Dulce, for one thing.
	And we've got actually a huge amount of very substantial witnesses that have come forward about Dulce since that time.
	Benowitz is one of the first, of course, and Dodie was involved with him, as you say.
	Schneider was...
	Interacted with what is, in essence, a gray alien and apparently feels that his life was saved by another man.
	And you guys describe that, I think, quite well in the documentary, as I recall.
	And, you know, this is the kind of thing we're talking about.
	Also, my witness, Captain Mark Richards, who he and his father flew in and tried to...
	Take down the Dulce base.
	And then we have another guy with a deathbed confession who worked for the CIA. He's on my website, and I've linked that.
	It was also part of the citizens' hearing of this.
	Oh, of course.
	Yeah, I'm sure Dolan interviewed him, right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, I mean, Dolan is well aware that the Dulce base is real.
	And, you know, so his later, you know, comments that are happening this week As of this time.
	I think there's a lot of pressure to appear kind of mainstream for people like him, and that actually can degrade the quality of the research and the analytical...
	Sort of approach, if you will.
	People not wanting to go out on a limb, trying to sound like they're very well balanced and all this sort of thing.
	Believe me, in the future of planet Earth, that kind of approach is not going to be regarded as something to be admired.
	And Rich has been very brave in the past with his testimony and with his information.
	His incredible investigations and I highly respect Him and his books, wonderful books, especially the National Security State.
	I think it's a three-volume set that really documents all the amazing sightings around the United States, mainly, although I think he does bring in Europe from time to time and sightings there.
	It's virtually impossible to document sightings everywhere in the world, but you get the point.
	So, at any rate, though, back to Phil, you know, this story has been out there and I think the biggest testimony or most substantial part of it is actually Phil's personality itself, the way he was coming forward.
	And his incredible sincerity, as far as I'm concerned, and many people that I know feel that same way.
	We feel that he is one of the sort of original whistleblowers, if you will.
	And really, that it stands on its own merits by the nature of what he's doing.
	This is not a guy who's out grandstanding.
	He's out...
	Telling the truth out of conscience.
	You know, this is a very brave act of conscience.
	So I have to say that.
	I'm glad you think that.
	I mean, you know, Phil was a really loving guy.
	I mean, Darcy and I have poured through hours of his home movies, and, you know, he loved his daughter.
	He loved people.
	He loved life.
	I mean, the guy had a lot of hobbies, too.
	Not only was he a self-taught metallurgist, He's a geologist.
	He just had such an interest in earth and science and conspiracy theories also.
	He's a guy who definitely has a big heart and sounds like he's coming from a good place.
	He seems like he was worried about the country's future.
	A lot of times in his lectures he would mention Children being at risk, not only of aliens abducting them, but also just people like Janet Reno ordering the Waco thing.
	He had a great speech about Waco.
	He loved people.
	Like I said, he loved life.
	The thing about him that's unique is he showed vulnerability.
	He showed that he was a weak person, that he was Hurt in the line of whatever duties he was doing in the past.
	He showed that he was doing this at his own risk.
	He was divulging this information and he thought that eventually he was going to get very hurt.
	He was going to be snuffed out and eventually that's exactly what happened.
	Ron Rummel, his best friend, was found in a park.
	Who was Air Force retired.
	Air Force retired and was also talking about the Star Wars project and what the true implications of that defense strategy really was possibly.
	They found some evidence at the crime scene that he wouldn't have done it himself.
	There was no blood on him.
	No blood on the gun, no blowback, and things were wiped.
	You're talking about the suicide or whatever happened to his friend?
	Is that what you're talking about now?
	Yeah, Ron Rummel.
	Ron died first, and then almost a year later, Phil died of suspicious circumstances.
	His family tried to champion that.
	When I was having this I had a discussion with this rather rude individual on Facebook recently.
	He was saying that Cynthia was a liar and that this whole story was created and blah, blah, blah.
	Phil was not making money off of this story.
	He was poor.
	His family, when he died, And he was getting a, you know, what do you call it?
	A pension from the government for his disability.
	And this guy was saying that his disability was actually a mental handicap.
	And that's why he was definitely lying and stuff.
	And I said, no, if you look at...
	The pension he was getting, it says nothing.
	It says that he had a disability.
	It said nothing about a mental disability.
	And if you looked at him, he had plenty of physical disabilities from stuff that happened in his work.
	One thing that we also didn't dive into a lot in the documentary because it's just kind of irrelevant.
	Oh, shoot.
	He'll come back.
	I'll text you.
	Sorry, yeah.
	These little icon things are really sort of, when you double click the picture, they sort of crop up really quickly.
	Sorry about that.
	Sorry, just the lower part of the picture.
	You were saying, one of these things we didn't get to die.
	You were saying, so go ahead.
	Yeah, I think this is relevant now in the conversation.
	Phil had a lot of physical ailments.
	He had osteoporosis.
	He had tumors on his legs that had to get removed.
	He had hundreds of scars all over his body from a shrapnel explosion.
	The guy had been through so much.
	He's been hurt so badly so many times.
	He was a mess.
	It was like a testament to mankind that the guy could be standing and doing these lectures.
	At the time of his death, he had a hospital bed in his room, and he had a wheelchair, and he had a nurse at his house.
	He was kind of always dying.
	Well, I mean, let me ask you guys, the actual death and how it occurred, you're saying they consulted a psychic about that, but was there any kind of description as to, you know, a blow-by-blow as to how it happened?
	Did they get one, and do you know it?
	They certainly did.
	I don't know if it's true or not, because it is based on, you know, what some might...
	Think of as not evidence, but yes.
	So apparently, Phil was abducted and he was taken to a gravel pit that he used to go to a lot to look for rocks and geodes and stuff.
	They apparently took him there and they, I guess, threatened to kill his family and he told them to kill him instead.
	Something of that nature.
	And then they drove him in his car back to his apartment.
	And while they were in his bedroom, they strangled him.
	Now, again, no idea if this is true.
	But we do know that given the crime report, he was found face down in his own wheelchair, dead.
	I don't know how you do that yourself.
	With the catheter hose wrapped several times around his neck.
	And I held this catheter hose in my hand.
	It was short.
	So that thing had to have been tied tight.
	To be able to get that second knot, I know this is getting kind of graphic, but it's kind of important.
	To be able to do that yourself, to tie a knot and then a second one and then a third one.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's also, think about it.
	Blood all over the floor and stuff like that.
	Look, it's not the way a person would choose to end their life either.
	You've got to think about this psychologically.
	Nobody's going to do that, you know?
	If you want to kill yourself, you're just not going to choose that way of strangling yourself.
	It doesn't even seem like it would work, you know, because you probably would stop You know, if you were choking, you wouldn't keep the pressure on.
	You almost need another person to keep the pressure on while you're choking in order for that kind of scenario to work.
	So, I mean, let's get real, you know.
	But I am curious, were they saying that, in other words, do they know what agency was responsible?
	So, here's another claim, and, you know, Darcy, I don't even know how you'll feel about me mentioning this, because that's the thing.
	I don't know how much of these details are completely irrelevant, but I'll just say one of the people that Cynthia believes was involved in the murder was supposedly someone who actually Phil knew his whole life and was kind of like a close acquaintance,
	and she believes that it's possible that he was hired Yeah, apparently the guy had a company called Killers Incorporated or something like that.
	And he was a mercenary after coming back from the war and stuff like that.
	So I don't know.
	We do have this person's name, but I don't think...
	I don't think we're allowed to say that.
	Yeah, I feel like...
	Carrie, if you want...
	Is that person still alive, just out of curiosity?
	That's the thing I don't know.
	No idea.
	Because, you know...
	I don't want to know.
	Well, this is the kind of thing where you could get a deathbed confession of a murderer, right?
	It's possible.
	But...
	Yeah, if you want, we could give you the information in private.
	But the other thing I wanted to mention is that Phil Schneider also...
	Before he died, he was very much interested in alchemy.
	Now, I know some people probably think that that's not a real thing, but Phil believed in it.
	And I actually have, and I'm sure Darcy has this too, his procedure for making gold, sort of like a recipe.
	And again, I'm not a chemist.
	I have no science background.
	I have no idea if this is real or not.
	But it basically involves quartz and Cinnabar and car batteries.
	And, you know, at the bottom of the page, it says, please send any proceeds to my wife and daughter.
	So that could also, I mean, you know, again, given the possibility that that's for real, That may have also been a reason why someone wanted to silence him.
	If this guy's able to make gold, I mean, if that's even possible.
	Our currencies used to be backed on gold, and if gold is considered a finite resource, but you can create it with that stuff.
	Well, I know there is a guy in Arizona who is able to make gold.
	What do you think about that?
	You know, this is the kind of thing that they do.
	Now, when you manufacture gold, from what I understand, it's not exactly the same as when you dig it out of the ground and it's been under pressure for a certain amount of, you know, millions of years type of thing.
	There's a different quality to the vibration, if I understand it.
	I'm trying to remember the guy's name, but he's actually...
	Well, I wanted to interview him and I can tell you that he has a major...
	Signed a major contract with the Japanese.
	And he does live in Arizona.
	He is a scientist.
	And, you know, this famous author used to get his, you know, monatomic gold from him.
	I think his first name might be David.
	So, Carrie, you've talked to a few people that claim to be able to do this, huh?
	Well, I know at least that person.
	And I met him in person, actually.
	So I actually talked to him at a conference...
	I guess I won't say where.
	And he's the one who told me himself that he had to deal with the Japanese.
	He wasn't able to release the information to the public.
	Wow.
	And, you know, that was then.
	I don't know the status of it now, you know, but I do know that a very famous author, whose name I'm going to look up because I can't remember it offhand, but he's a British author that made famous a huge history of the Templars and all this kind of thing, and he used to purchase from this man his monatomic gold.
	Wow.
	With Phil, on the paper that has his procedure on it, he says that he had to get the gold, I guess, he had to get it processed in Thailand and it was shipped back in the form of necklaces.
	Because what he was yielding were these tiny little balls, and I think he- They were radioactive, right?
	They would become radioactive if they were too big, like if you yielded too much, you had to make sure to do a very small amount of time.
	I think it was like, I'm not even going to try to pretend like I remember the weight, but It had to be a tiny little bead, and then he would send them to Thailand, apparently, and they would be returned as gold chains.
	And Cynthia claimed to have seen these.
	She saw him open a box, and there were gold chains in it from Thailand.
	No proof of that, I guess, now, but it's just part of the lore, I guess.
	Sure.
	Well, I mean, you know, that's kind of a side story, and I appreciate it.
	It is fascinating that Phil got into that.
	I mean, look, the guy was a scientist, and he had an inquiring mind, etc., So there are always extenuating circumstances when we've got things like this.
	Who knows what their real motivation is?
	Obviously, he was going, as you say, well, as I say, off the reservation in a big way.
	And he was revealing the truth of the sort of ET visitation on planet Earth.
	Way before they wanted it out there.
	Right now, I get the feeling they're less likely to want to kill people, but I never put it past them.
	Yeah, I feel like...
	No, go ahead.
	I think the interesting...
	I mean, we wouldn't cover the story we just talked about in the doc because it's very derivative and it would sidetrack the whole story of what Phil was trying to talk about, which is like, Possible alien visitation to the planet, the military colluding and doing secret science research deep underground in these military bases that they've built.
	And there's a history to it and may have started post-World War II and all that stuff, right?
	And that is the more fascinating side of his story.
	And it still is today.
	I mean, you look at the military industrial complex and how much What does the American military have in black budget this year, and next year, and the year after it?
	It just keeps growing and growing, and people don't talk about that.
	We talk about it a bit in our documentary, but there's so many people before us that have covered that in greater detail, and it's scary.
	That stuff, the fact that the military Doesn't even have to follow proper accounting procedures and can write off at the end of the year anything.
	They could say they buy $10 billion of baked bread if they want it and there's no questions asked from the American government.
	This stuff is the most interesting to us and the fact that people like Richard Dolan and other people that speculated on this sort of Research would say,
	if you're going to have a two-track society, sort of a secret, hidden society that's happening and coexisting with our sort of in-the-darkness, by-majority mass population, then you're going to have the military to do all of these interesting, high-science projects.
	Well, yeah, because if you think about it...
	Sorry to interrupt, but I feel like what you're getting at is that, you know, the people who have the most money in the world, they're going to do things with that money that, A, we're never going to know about, and B, we would never believe if we knew about it.
	Because if you had trillions of dollars, wouldn't you want to build a base underground and, like, start playing God?
	Start, you know, trying to clone a hybrid race or, you know...
	The things that people claim are going on at Dulse is that it's like a genetic experimentation facility.
	So it just...
	I don't know.
	Let me also say that I appreciate that.
	First of all, the name of the author I was trying to find who is so famous, Lawrence Gardner.
	He died not too many years ago.
	So he was getting his monatomic gold from this guy.
	So I can assure you the guy was for real.
	But at any rate...
	And you should research Lawrence Gardner and his many, many books, if you don't already know.
	I'm talking to the public here.
	He wrote about the Jesus bloodline, of course.
	Yes, that's just one of the things.
	He also wrote about monatomic gold and the Illuminati bloodlines, et cetera, et cetera.
	So there's a very long history there of fabulous information that Gardner brought forward.
	But I did want to get down to the Dulce Garden.
	And another witness, this is pertinent, because it has to do with Sean David Morton, who's just been taken into prison, he and his wife, for what is in essence, it appears to be an accounting error on this part of the IRS, for the most part, who gave him $500,000, who didn't find an error in his tax return until later, and then wanted the money back.
	So that's only one of the charges against Sean.
	There are a multiple of other charges as well.
	But the real witch hunt after Sean David Morton, in my opinion, is based on his books, which come from a whistleblower, who is said to be the head of Area 51.
	He's written it as fiction, as the whistleblower requested, because his wife and children are still alive here on planet Earth.
	But this whistleblower who contacted Sean, Sean was about to write, I think it's the, it might be the third or the fourth book, I forget which.
	I think it's the fourth.
	And it begins to appear that the whistleblower, rather than being actually dead, was in contact.
	So there's a lawyer who was the go-between with Sean, and Sean was given this material.
	He wrote these amazing books called Sands of Time, highly recommended.
	You can purchase them on my site.
	I believe they're linked through Amazon, you know, however it works.
	And I think at StrangeUniverseRadio.com or something like that, you can find his work there.
	But he just got arrested, and it looks like it's really to silence him.
	Because these books contain tons of information that actually validates Phil's story and more.
	And all my other whistleblowers, the people that have documented what's going on in Dulcy and Area 51 and what was going on there, etc., etc.
	This is yet another piece of the puzzle, if you will.
	So when you start gathering, a lot of witnesses who don't know each other come from completely different directions, and they're all saying the same thing.
	And this is when you really have to start paying attention.
	So this is where we're going with that, and I just wanted to make you guys aware of that.
	That's fantastic.
	And you know, in terms of Dulse, I agree with you.
	I think it's really important to look at this base because there's a lot of evidence for it.
	I mean, you just said it yourself.
	And not only have there been whistleblowers, but the amount of Apache Native Americans that live in the area that have seen UFOs, staggering numbers.
	I mean...
	You know, Jesse Ventura conspiracy theory interviewed a few of them.
	UFO hunters interviewed a few of them.
	And these people seem very genuine because they have absolutely nothing to gain.
	They have no military background.
	They're just farmers, usually.
	And they claim that they've seen black triangle UFOs fly over the Archuleta Mesa in Dulles.
	They've seen aliens walking around, supposedly.
	There have been cattle mutilations in that area.
	So there's a lot of civilian Reports of very strange activity in the area that this base supposedly exists.
	Actually, in the documentary, we show a quick little news report from the local, I think it was like an ABC news report about Dulse.
	And they actually do some really good interviews with these people who have seen these UFOs.
	And it's just more material that shows you that there is...
	Very likely some.
	Anthony F. Sanchez.
	That's right.
	Anthony Sanchez.
	Big time.
	So many people out there that have just covered this subject.
	It's interesting, but the greater thing is the whole planet.
	It's a spaceship floating on Earth that's permeable.
	Asteroids can come in.
	Why can't You know, an intelligent race come and communicate with the power centers or the higher ups.
	Hey, Carrie, what do you think about the hollow earth stuff?
	Well, I think there's a lot of different levels to that.
	But before we go there, I just want to say that Anthony Sanchez is someone I've interviewed recently.
	Multiple times, actually, and I can tell you that his book, UFO Highway, also further documents by this colonel everything that Phil Schneider was saying, let me say that much, and also Anthony Sanchez, who I interviewed recently.
	At one point in person, you know, the old-fashioned Camelot interview, rather than a show like this.
	And we went to a location.
	I interviewed him for several hours.
	He went home to Northern California.
	We went back to, you know, my place.
	And then the next morning, I got a sort of frantic call from Anthony saying, please don't publish that interview.
	I've received a death threat.
	Sure enough, in his car, which was locked in the garage and the car was locked and the windows were rolled up, and the inside of the window was a piece of paper basically saying, if that interview gets released, your family will be killed.
	And on top of it, I got a call from somebody who is in the intelligence field who I've dealt with in the past, and he basically called me to relay a message to Anthony, because you've got to understand, Anthony is a software engineer, and this is the reason why he got contacted about the Lockheed By the Lockheed Martin scientists, and that's his later work.
	And he's never released that actual book about Project Leonid, the network of nanosatellites around our planet, etc., that are basically self-aware and artificial intelligence, and that they realized it would be a threat.
	So they went on the run from Lockheed.
	They contacted Anthony.
	But aside from that, Mm-hmm.
	State, so to speak, please do not ever release any documentation that you have gotten from these witnesses, etc.
	So I've never released my one-on-one interview with Anthony that is quite extensive because of these death threats that he got, more than one.
	So if somebody gets death threats, you've got to say to yourself, this is not for no reason.
	It's interesting because it all comes around to secret space, right?
	And a possible secret space program, whether that's just high military projects or missions to other planets that are kept secret from the rest of society while we watch movies and consume content that's just predetermined what we're allowed to know.
	That is another interesting thing.
	And you've got People like Elon Musk who want to take us to Mars, right?
	And if Project Leonid and things like that are true, I find it's going to be harder and harder for people like that to actually move forward with those plans.
	Weren't we supposed to be on Mars by 2020 when Bush was in power?
	It just keeps getting pushed back.
	Everything gets in the way.
	And now we've got the threat of a nuclear war looming.
	You've got Crap that possibly could go down with North Korea and all their allies.
	And Trump, you know, is basically not stepping back from showing aggression to a country that I think, quite frankly, needs our help more than anything.
	You don't want to invade a country like that.
	It's sad what's going on over there.
	But, you know, that is all the distraction.
	Instead, we should be a spacefaring race.
	And the other documentary that we and I are working on is called Beyond the Spectrum, and it talks about NASA's involvement in UFOs, basically, and all the stuff that's been accumulated over the years showing near-Earth orbit anomalies and craft and stuff like that, moving around the space stations and stuff like that.
	These weird responses that are given to the press by NASA and all the scientists I've interviewed A physicist that has written hundreds of pages on how the STS-48 footage could not have been ice particles and stuff like that.
	This whole realm is interesting to us.
	If people think it's just science fiction, sometimes fact is stranger than fiction and sometimes science fiction comes from stuff like this.
	We'll never know because it's kept so far in the back of the public's eye.
	Everything else out there is a distraction.
	By the way, also, I agree with what Darcy just said, how we eventually have to become a civilization that can travel through space, but I also think that we are definitely forgetting about The stuff that's already here on Earth.
	I mean, what Phil Schneider is saying is any truth to it.
	There's no need to look up there for UFOs.
	We should really be looking under our feet.
	Or, you know, within the oceans.
	Also, didn't you guys, I think you had some stuff from Richard Sauter that documents a lot of, he's written several books documenting the undersea bases, etc.
	Darcy did a lot of interviews with Sauter and he was awesome.
	That's my favorite part of the film, actually, because he's just so knowledged on an underground basis.
	I mean, he really is the expert on it.
	He went through, you know, government repositories and found, you know, plants to create bases and schematics and blueprints and all kinds of stuff.
	And, you know, there's even photos of the underground underwater.
	There's a Navy force called the Navy Seabees, and they are a Tangible military force that's hired by the Navy that builds underwater stuff.
	And, you know, he has some illustrations that an artist made that the military had contracted a certain illustration to make of tunnel boring machines, you know, working on mountains under the ocean.
	So it's like, if you really want to keep something secret and you want to build a naval force that's underwater, you know, Submarine technology was amazing back in the 60s and 70s.
	Where is it at now?
	You know, we know about craft that can travel at thousands of miles per hour, breaking the sound barrier and such, and some that even possibly have gone into space.
	The Thunderbird was unveiled.
	And sits on the USS Intrepid in New York.
	And we know that that was in service in the late 60s, the early 70s.
	What are they using now?
	And the technology is so advanced now.
	Our cell phones apparently have more technology than the first capsule that took Buzz and the first astronauts, the moon.
	What are they using now in space?
	And why is it NASA is so downplayed and we only hear about really menial things they're doing.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I do want to answer your question, Lee, regarding what you were asking me, which is in essence inner earth or hollow earth.
	I can tell you that I recommend highly The Transylvanian Sunrise and Transylvanian Moonrise, the two books that were translated from Romanian by Peter Moon.
	And I've done a show with Peter in the past.
	I think it's on my YouTube channel and also with a couple other people from Romania.
	There is a place called the Romanian Sphinx, and there's a witness, his name is Caesar, and he was born, he had sort of a strange birth, and has this sort of thing with the placenta, which I don't quite understand,
	but I understand it has something to do with, he had special sort of psychic abilities when he Grew up and then he became head of like a very secret Romanian think tank, I guess, kind of like Rand Institute or whatever.
	And that was all.
	The American military went into the area of the Romanian Sphinx underground.
	There's an underground tunnel there.
	There's a frequency fence and only Caesar had the right physical frequency to move the fence sort of out of the way.
	Everyone else who tried to do it was just disintegrated immediately, and he then disappeared.
	The story goes that he did go into Inner Earth, that there are civilizations in Inner Earth.
	They've been documented in books throughout the ages, actually, so you do get stories coming back to us, sometimes in the early 19th century.
	Interesting, fascinating stories.
	I can tell you that a certain group that was in touch with me had a certain contact with an inner-earth civilization.
	Some of the UFOs are said to have come from there.
	They do come from undersea, but they also come from inner-earth.
	And so there's a lot of stories about all of that.
	There's also an interdimensional aspect to it.
	And that gets into the halls of Amenti.
	That Ashina Dean, someone else I interviewed who has written extensive books called The Voyager Books, two Voyager books.
	They're on the front page of my website.
	I highly recommend both of them.
	Documenting the history of our encounters are a sort of the human race and all of the different races of which we are a part, the wars between the races, etc., in a much more detailed fashion than the Bible and...
	It's stuff that you just can't make up.
	So it is all very fascinating, but just in answer to your question, yes, there's a lot of evidence for an internal civilization.
	And of course, the recent stuff about Antarctica is also related to some degree to an underground city in Antarctica, etc.
	So again, you have that kind of thing going on as well.
	Wow.
	Have you heard of...
	Because I know Phil Schneider definitely...
	He believed that the aliens that live under the Earth, I shouldn't even call them aliens at that point, but he definitely believed that those were the malevolent beings.
	Those were the ones who have been mutilating cattle.
	Those were the ones who are abducting people.
	Do you have any opinion on that?
	Because I know you on your show have definitely stated that you believe there are all different types.
	There's not just good aliens out there, right?
	Sure.
	No, you know, a lot of these so-called aliens inhabit what we call the fourth dimension, so they can go interdimensional, so you have to keep that in mind.
	I would say that, you know, there are greys under the Earth, but there are plenty of grey races that come from other planets and visit our planet.
	It's a huge sort of melting pot of races.
	The good ones and the bad ones coming from both inside Earth and off Earth.
	There are good positive, apparently, races inside the Earth and perhaps some less friendly ones as well.
	I mean, if you listen to Richard Dolan again in the doc, he talks about, you know, if you were a race that wanted to live out of sight and out of sound from the rest of The earthlings, you could live underground and it would be an ideal environment because you can control that environment.
	It's like a little vacuum you've created where you can have everything that you want out of sight and out of sound.
	And if you think about Dallas, New Mexico, where all these cattle mutilations and stuff happen and people say they've seen Strain of beings in these areas where the cattle mutilations happen at night.
	Well, there you go.
	The sun goes down.
	You're less in sight.
	You're going to be more out of sight.
	You can come above ground.
	You can do some things, return before the sun comes up, that type of thing.
	It seems logical.
	It seems interesting that there's that theory that there's some kind of life forms that live under the ground.
	And if they're there, don't you think people who have a lot of money are going to go look for them?
	Or you could kind of flip that around.
	Let's say the aliens are actually something that we created out of some freak experiment.
	Well, even more so...
	It seems logical that, again, if you have all the money in the world, you're going to want to play God in some form, whether that's creating a super soldier race or trying to develop the immortality medicine.
	It all seems logical to me.
	The idea of an alien base seems logical.
	The idea of a human base underground where they're doing these genetic experiments, I don't know.
	Maybe I'm just...
	Read too many comic books.
	But to me, it just all seems logical.
	We live in a weird universe.
	You know, the other thing is, and Kerry, I'm sure you have experience with this, is that a lot of people have a really hard time believing this stuff, and they don't believe that it's possible for the government to cover it up.
	They don't think that anyone is competent enough to successfully cover this up.
	And here's my favorite point of evidence to cite about that.
	The September 11th Shell gas station footage of the Pentagon getting hit was confiscated.
	This is like a known thing.
	It was in the media and tons of articles reported on it.
	The gas station attendant had to give that videotape to the CIA. They came into his store and they demanded the tape.
	They needed to analyze it, you know, for evidence or whatever.
	And that tape was covered up until 2010.
	Finally, after a FOIA hearing, they released the tape.
	And of course, it shows no plane hitting.
	There's just a phantom explosion with nothing else in the shot.
	And there you go.
	I mean, they covered that video up for nine years.
	No one ever saw it.
	If they can cover up that video, you don't think they're going to do that for something else?
	To say nothing about the Kennedy assassination.
	I mean, the number of cover-ups is just so extensive on our planet at this time.
	The other thing is to keep in mind is that they love to hide things in plain sight.
	So they want both sides out there.
	They want people putting out a lot of disinfo in this UFO field, and that's definitely happening.
	And then they want the truth to be interspersed.
	The push now seems to be that they realize they've kept people dumb for so long that it's actually not going to be to their benefit.
	So now they're actually pushing a bit more disclosure is what I'm getting.
	And there are other people on the circuit that are seeing that.
	And the movies you're going to be seeing in the near future, I think, are going to reflect that in a much bigger way.
	They want people to start waking up.
	But if you don't think there is a cover-up, there is cover-ups every week to do with the weather wars, to do with the people that are doing false flags.
	I mean, the Kennedy assassination has been covered up to this day.
	There are still people that believe that there was a lone gunman.
	You know the reason why the Americans got involved in the Vietnam War?
	Supposedly the North Vietnamese had submarines that were attacking them, but You know, you go back and you look at the evidence.
	Now, there was no technology.
	They were a poor naval force.
	They couldn't have done it.
	It was a false flag attack that got that war started and possibly so many other wars.
	Pearl Harbor.
	I mean, look, I mean, there's so many cover-ups.
	It's just unbelievable.
	They had confirmed reports that the Japanese were building up their air force and were going to fly in and start an attack on Pearl Harbor.
	Did they do anything to prepare?
	No.
	The American military waited and let it happen so that they had a reason to mobilize the Americans and get everybody behind them and the government could send men off to be killed and fight.
	And my grandfather was part of World War II. He was an Air Force pilot and he suffered greatly through all that.
	And I'm not saying that there wasn't this force which It was potentially evil that wanted to conquer Europe and maybe the world, but there's still all kinds of false flag stuff that happened then, and it's sad.
	Absolutely.
	You send people away to die all the time for reasons that don't have to be.
	Well, Kerry, what you were saying before about how we're going to see movies coming out now that reflect...
	You know, the real picture.
	I think you might be right, because I think people really are kind of getting sick of the horror movie narrative.
	Like, oh, aliens are going to come and kill you.
	I mean, it's boring.
	There's nothing to it.
	And I think deep down, people would much rather see a story about a benevolent alien, because it's just...
	That, to me, is much more relatable than some Blair Witch thing.
	And I think people are kind of realizing that.
	Well, I think you have to listen to William Tompkins and realize that we've got him from both sides.
	And so the narrative is going to include both sides, if it's got any truth to it.
	But certainly there are positive ETs.
	And according William Tompkins passed on, as you may know, not long ago, actually a couple of weeks, right during the solar eclipse.
	And his testimony is all about the Nordic beings who were helping him and helping the secret space program get off sort of the ground, literally, and helping us get to the moon, etc., etc.
	And they are really instrumental in our secret space program.
	The reptilians are also involved, and there's evidence that the reptilians have also sabotaged our programs to keep us from going out interstellar, etc.
	And it hasn't been successful, but this is the kind of battle going on behind our, well, over our heads and sort of under the earth and in the sea.
	Well, we know for sure Wernher von Braun, who basically founded The NASA space program in the United States.
	He was one of the most instrumental scientists behind getting all that rocket technology together to get us up there.
	He was an ex-Nazi from the German side of the war, and he was brought over under Project Paperclip.
	And there are some people that allege that, you know, the people that worked on underground military bases We also were ex-Nazis that worked on certain projects for the Nazi military.
	We have a document in the film during Richard Sauter's scene where we show a document that alleges that Zaver Dorsch was brought over in paperclip because he was the leading expert on underground base construction.
	There is evidence for that, for sure.
	Oh, yeah, it's plentiful.
	So, I mean, I do, you know, I appreciate having you guys on.
	It's great to talk with you.
	What I want to do is open the sort of floor to questions from the audience about your documentary, about, you know, to get back to the subject at hand and let the audience, if they have any questions, obviously, you know, in order to keep these guys working and producing great documentaries, you want to keep...
	You know, finance and help their work to happen, so you want to watch their documentary.
	I think it's on Amazon.
	Do you want to explain how they can watch it and all of that?
	Yeah, it's on Amazon Prime.
	If you have an account, you can watch it for free.
	It will be on YouTube, iTunes, Vudu, Hulu, all that type of stuff in the time to come.
	But that's the first place to definitely check it out and we'll update information on Facebook later when it's on other platforms for sure.
	Which is very soon, like in the works.
	Okay, very good.
	So as far as questions, I'm actually going to look in the chat right now and see if we've got anything that's come through.
	And just put a question mark at the end of your sentence here in the chat, because otherwise we're not going to know that you've got a question.
	It's kind of hard to skim this really quickly and see.
	I'll bet.
	There's a very heavy-duty chat going on alongside this show, which is good because it means we're generating a lot of interesting dialogue.
	Hopefully it's interesting.
	I mean, I assume it's interesting.
	I know a lot of YouTube is definitely on the side of wanting, at least, to believe Phil.
	You know, if you search his lectures...
	It's basically a 90% approval rating.
	I mean, I think...
	That's awesome, yeah.
	Yeah, I think a lot of people really, you know, believe his story, which is interesting.
	So the name of their documentary is called Underground.
	The Underground.
	The Underground.
	And it's also, it's linked on my website, projectcamelotportal.com.
	You can get the trailer there and...
	Guys, you want to give out any URLs or any websites that you have that people can find it on as well?
	Check out Major Lee on YouTube.
	Major Lee.
	I actually will be uploading the trailer to my YouTube channel, but that's about it.
	And yeah, that's just youtube.com slash Lee Lustig.
	I also have a video up there that's called The UFO Video.
	It's a 40-minute kind of short documentary that You know, blast through, in my opinion, the best stories of alien visitation.
	Other than that, you just go on Amazon, just search the underground Darcy Weir or the underground Lee Lussig.
	It should be the only thing that pops up.
	Yeah.
	Lee's YouTube videos are awesome.
	I highly implore everybody to check out the UFO doc he made, which is a short but concise and rich, information-rich documentary that's free as well, so check that out.
	It's got a little bit of humor in it, too.
	It's not that dry.
	Okay, cool.
	Now, someone is asking your thoughts on the Blink 182 guy, which is, gosh, what's his name?
	Tom DeLonge.
	Yeah.
	You know, someone wants to know if you think it's a PSYOP. Honestly, no.
	I think Tom is legitimately interested in it.
	I mean, I remember Blink-182's song, Aliens Exist, back from like 1999.
	I mean, the guy's definitely been interested in this for a while, and it sounds like he's believed in them for a while, if the song is true.
	But I did watch an interview with him on, I think, UFO TV, or Open Minds TV, where he told stories about going out into the desert and, you know, putting on his night vision goggles and meditating until UFOs came out.
	I mean, I think that's about as into it as you can get.
	I don't think, you know, it seems genuine.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I don't see why not.
	I mean, you've got...
	Rock stars like Creed that are very fascinated with Jesus Christ and religion.
	If you can have guys championing that, why can't you have guys championing aliens?
	I would say it was a psyop if he exposed some crazy piece of evidence that was too good to be true.
	Then I might start getting skeptical.
	Because I know he's saying that he's about to reveal something.
	Darcy, did you hear about that?
	I think he's got a documentary coming out or a series.
	Yeah, I'd love to see it, actually.
	Anything that adds to this whole...
	I would start calling it a psyop if it was too good to be true.
	Okay, well, I can tell you that he's being financed and backed by some serious military people.
	The trouble that we have with this sort of thing is that you've got people...
	Like him that are choosing a point of view as to whether aliens are all good or all bad.
	My understanding is that his position is that they're all bad.
	Stephen Greer is saying they're all good.
	You know, they're not all good and they're not all bad.
	And so I think you need your head examined if you think that anything out there is all good or all bad.
	You know, in other words, it's a yin-yang universe, a multiverse that we're in.
	But, you know, this is the information that has come through this guy's book that I was reading recently, whose name I can't remember.
	But at any rate, he was talking a lot about DeLong in his book, and he seems to see it as that's the way it is.
	I didn't know that.
	So I think someone needs to set DeLong a little straight on that.
	But he is coming from being backed by a certain portion of the military that have a vested interest in In funding, of course, their military programs, etc.
	The trouble is that there definitely is a threat to humanity here on planet Earth and off-planet.
	So he's not wrong about the threat.
	It's just understanding that there's a positive side of beings.
	Human race wouldn't even exist here if we didn't have certain other beings in our corner, so to speak.
	So it's important to remember that.
	They would have done it by now, you know what I mean?
	Yeah, and I mean it might be of more interest for a possible Extraterrestrial race to just manipulate us instead of destroy us.
	We're a resource.
	Just like we go to a third world country and exploit lesser fortunate human beings, why wouldn't an extraterrestrial race come to another planet and exploit beings that are lesser fortunate or lesser intelligent than them?
	There's tons of scientists and theorists out there that have We both thought that this singer had More of a neutral stance.
	Well, this information now occurs to me to come from Grant Cameron's book.
	He recently wrote a book something about making magic or something like that.
	Anyway, it's out on the stands right now.
	It's an interesting book.
	It's got a lot of problems.
	It's wrong on a lot of counts.
	But it does talk extensively about DeLong.
	I didn't know about the outlook that they're all bad.
	It doesn't sound like the voice you want to be listening to.
	There's all kinds of interesting stars and stuff.
	Danny Daya from England who made a documentary about UFOs and possible contactees.
	He interviewed Stan Romanek and stuff like that.
	I think it's good if people that have a bit of star power talk about this subject because it doesn't have to be shunned and be considered some kind of crackpot research.
	But Yeah, when they take a really firm stance, it's kind of harsh because we don't know everything.
	There's no conclusive evidence for anything yet.
	Yeah, I think keeping an open mind is like paramount, of paramount importance in this field.
	And that goes for everyone on all sides of the equation.
	And I think that When people start closing their minds, this is something I see a lot of.
	Deciding that they know exactly what's what, they know what's real and what's not, I think it's a problem.
	But I do think there's a lot of evidence, a preponderance of evidence out there that we are not alone, and I think you need your head examined to think that we are.
	So I think we can get that far along the sort of trajectory.
	Trust me, I'm with you on that.
	There is more questions here, so I want to just grab them if we can and see what you guys have to say.
	So someone else is asking something about, did you get threatened, I guess, to shorten the question.
	Not yet, unless this guy's going to be the first one.
	I think it's...
	Not what you think, it's what you know.
	And it's not even what you know, it's what you can prove.
	And we can't technically prove anything.
	We can, you know, share the documents that we have in our documentary and stuff and prove that there might have been some foul play in Phil Schneider's death and that some of the things he talked about that were controversial, there might be some certain evidence there.
	But can we actually physically prove anything?
	Anything?
	No.
	And we'll never be a threat if we can.
	Unless we can.
	I hope you're right.
	I mean, we're not sitting here with a...
	Don't hold back anything, Lee.
	Come on, buddy.
	I don't think the documentary has the, you know, stance where we're like on a roof screaming, this happened!
	This is real!
	I think it's more...
	I hope it seems kind of unbiased and kind of, I don't know, impartial.
	But I guess that's up to the viewer.
	Okay.
	Someone wants to know, let's see, someone's saying, well, I don't know if it's a question really, but they're saying apparently there was a UFO sighting.
	They're talking about UFOs from Saturn right now in Australia.
	I don't know if that's an Australian person who's saying that or what, but I don't know if you guys have heard anything about that.
	I haven't heard about that.
	It's hard to keep up with all the UFO sightings.
	It seems like there's been a spike in the past year or two.
	Okay.
	Yeah, there are a lot of people here, let's see, asking something about Al Belick, the connection to the papers, Phil discovered, and the Eldridge.
	So that's a sticky area because there's a lot of evidence.
	Now, Carrie, I don't know how you feel about this, but I've seen a lot of Pretty solid takedowns of Al Bielek.
	I've seen, I mean, again, I don't know, but it's hard for me to believe him because, you know, his story is pretty out there.
	That is not to say that Phil didn't believe him because I know Phil was very good friends with him and pretty sure Phil believed that Al Bielek was involved in the Philadelphia Experiment.
	But, um, I don't know.
	I, I, you know, there's a website, I think it's called, like, Al Belick Debunked.
	That website ruined Al Belick for me.
	But there's, like, a website for Phil Schneider being debunked.
	I know, but this one's actually, like, was it, I don't know.
	Go check it out and tell me.
	Well, I can say that I did meet Al Bielek before he died and I actually sat in on an interview that he was doing with Pala Harris a long time ago at a UFO Congress.
	I can tell you that I sat in the room listening to him talk and that it got colder and colder and colder in that room and I started to feel completely ill.
	And I had to walk away and leave the room and I got like deathly sick after this.
	And so they were shooting something really substantial at that interview and at Elle and at us.
	We were talking late at night in this sort of lounge area.
	So something is up with that.
	There's no reason for them to electronically target someone so completely.
	Oh, man.
	My sickness came on like that, and it was just horrible.
	It just started with this incredible ice cold starting to come into that room.
	It's a bit strange, I know, but I can't say Al Belick's telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but I think he's a fascinating guy.
	I think his testimony is worth it.
	Knowing about and looking at, there's a great deal there.
	I actually owe a lot to him because he was probably one of my first gateways into this whole phenomenon.
	I think I, you know, the Montauk thing.
	My friend, because I used to drive out to Long Island every weekend for band practice, and my bandmate told me about Montauk.
	So then I found out about Al Belick and You know, so yeah, I mean, he definitely is one of the OG people in my, you know.
	Yeah, that's Peter Moon, too, though, right?
	Like, Peter Moon wrote about Al Belick and kind of made Al Belick famous, right?
	Well, right.
	And Duncan Cameron, I mean, I can tell you I've got a lot of witnesses about the Montauk experiments and about the Philadelphia experiment.
	So this stuff did take place.
	It's real.
	I have my own psychic experiences to do with Montauk that I wrote right into my book that I wasn't going to, you know, I wouldn't necessarily share here.
	But all I can tell you is that I was living in New York City prior to the end of Montauk, which was 1983.
	And that I had some very weird stuff happen to me during that time.
	And, you know, I hate to say that, but I did.
	And I was not in Camelot back then.
	So I had no idea what was going on.
	Now I see it in the perspective that I have, of course.
	And it's quite fascinating.
	Someone wants to know if Phil Schneider was a remote viewer.
	Don't think he was a...
	Nothing that we've ever seen suggests that he's a remote viewer.
	Probably just a first-hand account type guy.
	By the way, not to derail from the questions, but real quick, Carrie, you might find this really interesting.
	Cynthia, Phil's ex-wife, had this really interesting story about Duncan Cameron where she claimed that while watching him speak in a lecture, she saw him like...
	Kind of teleport a little bit and he like fell off his chair apparently and he was like really embarrassed so he walked outside and like Cynthia left and she went up to him and she's like hey Duncan I'm Cynthia and he's like hey how you doing and she's like what just happened in there?
	I saw you like Fall off your chair, but it was weird.
	And he was like, yeah, did you see that?
	And, you know, I don't know.
	Fascinating, yeah.
	Very fascinating, though, yeah.
	Absolutely.
	Well, Peter Moon, who translated the Transylvanian Sunrise and Moonrise books, which are really awesome, highly recommended, also was very involved in getting that testimony out about the Montauk Project.
	I've interviewed Peter.
	I've met him in person.
	He's a very serious guy.
	He's not screwing around.
	That's awesome.
	I can tell you that much.
	So fascinating, really, stuff.
	We're going to have to close this down pretty soon, trying to see if there's any other chat questions.
	And you guys, feel free to jump in here if you have something else you want.
	Haven't talked about with regard to your...
	Man, I wish we had a whole other show to talk about electronic harassment.
	That's like...
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Have you had...
	Well, that's pertinent.
	I mean, did you have electronic harassment?
	No, not at all.
	Absolutely not.
	I just find it extremely fascinating.
	Okay.
	I do believe in it.
	Yeah.
	I have Robert Duncan's book.
	I think it's called Cyber Warfare or something like that.
	Okay.
	I think it's the scariest, most interesting thing ever, being a targeted individual, electronic harassment.
	Yeah, I think it's something we need to look at.
	There's a lot of news reports about it.
	Thousands of Americans claim it's happening to them.
	So that's a whole other show you could dedicate to just that topic.
	I mean, really.
	Absolutely.
	There's a great deal of evidence, and I've done shows on this topic, and myself have experienced this.
	I'm quite sensitive to it, and I can tell when they're targeting me.
	That's terrifying.
	And shooting stuff, and it's pretty obvious.
	Bill Cooper, someone's asking in the chat.
	Do either of you have anything to say about Bill Cooper?
	He's a fascinating guy.
	Yeah, I got...
	Got this right here, if that means anything.
	Yeah, behold a pale horse, absolutely.
	He's interesting.
	You know, on my YouTube channel, I actually uploaded the video of Bill Cooper explaining the Amco alien, because for some reason it wasn't on YouTube at the time.
	Yeah, he talked about a lot of interesting stuff, that Amco alien being, in my opinion, the most interesting.
	Well, I had an interview with Richard Dolan initially about Phil Schneider and he talked about Bill Cooper and he thought Bill Cooper was totally full of it, but he thought that his death was brought on by his own insulting and offensive nature because he pulled a gun on the police
	when they kind of cornered him at his house.
	Not to be, you know, not to say that nothing he said was true or anything, but, you know, you don't aggress with the aggressor when they're the dominant force.
	And he got shot, you know?
	So, I don't know.
	He's a military guy, though.
	He was an ex-military guy.
	He did do a complete reversal at a certain point in his career of talking about everything.
	So, I think you have to look at Bill Cooper as an interesting sort of case.
	That's true.
	But as far as I'm concerned, he's an American hero, and so is Phil Schneider.
	And I can tell you that under the pressures that we get for doing this kind of work, and back in those days, are you kidding?
	You know, you're talking about electronic harassment.
	What about all the other kinds of harassment that he was enduring on a daily basis?
	And again, they've just thrown Sean David Morton in jail.
	So, you know, I'm sorry, but I see even a lot of my whistleblowers, or not a lot, but several have died under mysterious circumstances.
	Let me say that.
	So, the pressures are real.
	I mean, the whole idea of suiciding somebody, We could do a documentary, we could do like a whole television series on people's mysterious deaths, you know?
	And how scientists that were on to something Over 25 Marconi scientists.
	There's a NASA scientist.
	There's, of course, to do with Nibiru Planet X. There's scientists to do with that.
	You know, Kelly, who was suicided in England, David Kelly, to do with the microbiologists who've died.
	I mean, there is a huge long list.
	And it's, you know, the odds, if you want to do odds in terms of mathematics, Are astronomical that these people would die one right after the other in the most bizarre fashion known.
	So, yeah, this is really a long list of stuff.
	Really long list.
	Like, you know, even if you look at the cancer cure deal with Royal Raymond Rife, who apparently...
	His lab was ransacked, and apparently they destroyed his equipment after he discovered sound frequencies carrying cancer.
	That's right.
	It's scary stuff.
	But one thing I do want to drive home again, just for people who are interested in Phil Schneider, is you're not going to get this from his lectures, but the guy was seriously brilliant.
	I mean, I think when Cynthia first came to his apartment for the first time when they started dating, She saw on his whiteboard, or chalkboard rather, he had all this scribbled math, and Cynthia was like, what the hell is all this?
	And he said, that's math that alludes to the fact that the Challenger was shot out by a Cosmosphere, apparently.
	Which could be something from Project Leonid.
	So again, I don't want to focus on that so much, but more just the fact that this guy really was intelligent, His credentials were real.
	He had a really interesting life.
	The guy spoke seven languages at one point.
	He did construction in so many different countries.
	He's just an interesting person, regardless of the alien thing.
	The guy just had a very interesting life.
	He's a really talented artist.
	He was a painter.
	He was a sculptor.
	There's a lot about this guy that you're never going to see from these lectures, but he was a person who had a life Did a lot of activities, a lot of hobbies, loved a lot of stuff, and he wasn't just some rogue loon.
	Yeah, very important.
	Well, thanks, guys.
	You know, it's wonderful to have you on the show.
	It's great to hear what you have to say about, you know, Phil and about the, you know, I'm really glad you're doing the documentaries you're doing.
	I'm glad to encourage you to continue.
	Thank you.
	We just got it started.
	Excellent.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	So I want to thank everyone for watching and listening.
	And, you know, this will be on YouTube shortly.
	So please do frequent You know, go watch the documentary on Phil.
	I watched it.
	It's great.
	It's a lot of fun, fascinating stuff.
	Very well done.
	So, you know, let's get more from these guys, okay?
	And thank you, Carrie.
	You know, let's say that life is boring.
	Inherently, this planet is friggin' boring.
	And with people like you that are just championing new ideas and different thoughts, It makes life more interesting.
	We're right there with you, Carrie.
	Trust us.
	Awesome.
	Alright.
	Thanks, guys.
	Good night.
	Take care.
	It's been great.
	Thank you again.
	That's it, everyone.
	I think it's been really fascinating to listen to these guys, to hear different ideas and opinions about things.
	As well, they've got some great work out there, so please do continue to Kind of pay attention to what's happening.
	Don't close your mind.
	And, you know, let's just stay, you know, awake and aware, really.
	Whoops.
	Not sure what's going on here.
	But at any rate, thanks for watching.
	And I just want to say that I am going to be speaking in Ireland in the end of, well, in the middle of September at a conference.
	This is going to be in Dublin.
	So if you're in the Ireland area, please do come watch us, visit us.
	And my phone's ringing in the background.
	Sorry about that.
	And I just want to say that also I am working on the Mark Richards information.
	It is, as always, fascinating and trying to get that out in the next few days.
	So bear with me as I do that work.
	It's quite extensive.
	You know, I have written notes and I had to use a crayon this time, which was completely bizarre.
	And I also have, you know, I recorded right after I walk out of the prison.
	I record things also in audio.
	So I'm working with that and getting that off the ground.
	So thanks for watching and listening.
	I'm going to be going over to England.
	I'll be broadcasting from over there.
	I'm going to hope to do a couple interviews over there.
	Those I'm keeping under wraps for the moment.
	But hopefully they will transpire.
	And so thanks again for watching.
	So take care and have a great night.

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