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Aug. 25, 2017 - Project Camelot

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SHADOW WARRIOR: AN INTERVIEW WITH UGENE B. CULSON

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	Hi, I'm Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot and I'm here today with a very interesting super I'm Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot and I'm here today with a And he is going by the name of Eugene B. Colson and that is one of his operational names.
	It is not his real name.
	So we also have a GoFundMe link on my website so if you're interested in helping him after listening to his story Please do consider donating.
	So what we want to do here is basically hear what your background is and how you found out that you were an MKUltra sort of super soldier.
	That's kind of the terminology we use nowadays.
	Well, you know, I grew up, I was born in the 50s.
	I grew up in the Midwest and I thought I had a normal life.
	Got married.
	But I always knew something wasn't right in my life and throughout my life I would have flashbacks of combat and dreams of combat and I didn't know where the hell they came from.
	I would watch Vietnam movies and they'd talk about the thousand yard stare from combat and I'd go look in the mirror and say, well I got that, how the hell did I get that?
	And in 1996 I went to hear Kathy O'Brien speak She's an MKUltra victim, Operation Monarch.
	And I bought her book, Transformation of America.
	And I spoke with Kathy, and I spoke with Mark Phillips.
	And I told him about some equipment I've seen in dreams at some containment centers.
	And I asked Mark Phillips, who was CIA, and I drew it for him.
	And I said, did you ever see anything like that?
	He goes, yes.
	And I took her book, and I could not put it down.
	I mean, her talk was the first time I ever heard of.
	CIA, NK Ultra, Operation Monarch, Mind Control.
	And then in 96, I was listening to the Art Bell Show, and they had David John Oates, who was the guy that discovered reverse speech, doing reversals of O.J. Simpson.
	Now, I would encourage all your listeners to go to reversespeech.com and learn what it is.
	And what it is, is...
	You can take, when a toddler does their gibberish, you can record it and play it backwards, and quite often you hear them clearly talking.
	And adults do it too.
	Most of it comes from the subconscious mind.
	And I was listening to it on the Eric Bell Show, and I thought, this is bizarre.
	So I bought one of the machines, and I started using it, learning how to use it, because you have to develop an ear for it.
	Sometimes the reversals are clear as what we're speaking now.
	Sometimes they're kind of sing-songy.
	But once you develop an ear for it, you can pick them out.
	And I heard rumors for years that this church I went to was run by mob.
	So I started running sermon tapes through it.
	Not only did I find out that it was mobbed, they were CIA, they were different intelligence, foreign intelligence, different other federal agencies, military, and a lot of satanic priests.
	And I learned all this satanic terminology of the Mokdi, Lodi, and Nomad and the Enigma and I had to research and find out what they were.
	Now the Mokdi is an Indian icon that they pray to, the devil worshippers.
	It's got some kind of demonic entity with it.
	The Nomad is some kind of roaming demon that they get a hold of.
	I don't know how they do that.
	The Lodi is...
	Lodi, California is a big satanic center and as well as it's their nickname for their classified Internet.
	They call it Lodi.
	And the enigma is Satan.
	There's about 13 places around the world they'll go to be with Satan.
	And I'm hearing all this crap on all these sermon tapes.
	So I took it to a friend of mine and I said, hey, are you hearing the same thing I'm hearing?
	Am I going nuts?
	He said he was hearing the same thing.
	Well, I had a friend of mine who was a big Korean war hero died.
	And this is probably 97.
	And this Particular cult church that I went to, and they maintained many of us mind-controlled victims in churches as religious nuts, and I used to be a religious nut.
	And this church blew apart in a bunch of pieces, but all the leaders of these different churches were at the funeral, and they're all looking at me really funny, and I couldn't figure it out.
	And so I went to the wake at this guy's house, and this one minister, I went up to him and I said, I found out evidence that That church and all the satellite churches have been taken over by operatives.
	He said two words to me and he was scared.
	He walked out the front door.
	And I thought, well, this is interesting.
	I'm going to go up to his church and I'm going to sit right up front next weekend.
	So sure enough, I did.
	And I knew this guy fairly well.
	And he caused a lot of problems for me when I was in my early 20s.
	Their sermons were typically an hour and a half long, and he's panning the audience looking right and left, and he's scared shitless.
	And the only time he looked at me was about a half hour into it.
	He's doing an analogy when Hinkley shot President Reagan, and he makes his hand like a gun, and he's pointing right at my head because I'm about 12 feet in front of him, nobody in front of me.
	And then he comes back to it about 10 minutes later, and he looks at me and he says it like this, and he really did want to kill him too!
	And I thought, well, that's interesting.
	I'm going to see what's on your mind next week when I can get that sermon tape.
	Well, and I would go to the other offshoots of that particular church, and the ministers were scared to death of me, and I didn't know why.
	And I would listen to their sermon tapes, and I'd hear all these horrible things they wanted to do to me in reversals of me, my children, and just really scared.
	And I was telling my ex-wife about all this stuff, and I was getting close to finding out what was going on.
	She left me and she divorced me.
	I immediately put myself into hypnotherapy for my anger issues, and I was never a violent person.
	Always good, generous, helped the little old ladies.
	Anybody's died, I'd go show up at their house getting money.
	I do what I could to be a good person.
	I really worked hard at being a good person, but I am not perfect by no stretch of the means.
	I never cheated on my wife.
	I didn't screw around as a teenager.
	I live a moral life.
	And so I'm in hypnotherapy just dealing with the physical abuse.
	And that went on for two months.
	And then I went upstairs.
	Well, let me back up a little bit.
	Before my ex left me, I had got a hold of Ted Gunderson on a radio show.
	And this is probably in 97 as well.
	And I told him what I found.
	It was a Lou Efton show out of Las Vegas.
	He died in 2010.
	He was a great guy.
	And Ted Gunderson, former LA FBI girl director, was on the show.
	Are you familiar with Ted, Carrie?
	Yes, yes.
	I met him and talked to him.
	I tried to get him on my show right before he died.
	And so he's on the show.
	And I called in.
	Well, and I said, Ted...
	This is what I found with reverse speech on all this devil worship, takeover of churches, and blah, blah, blah.
	And he said, I want you to call my message line and leave your name and number.
	So I did.
	Three weeks later, he called me up.
	We talked for four hours.
	He says, I want to know everything you know.
	So I told him.
	I said, Ted, tell me I'm crazy and this can't be true.
	And he says, no, it takes his last 20 years of private investigation.
	And we developed a relationship.
	And then when my ex-wife left me, and I'm in hypnotherapy for two months, I went from my downstairs to upstairs.
	And I had met Sue Ford in April of 2000 with Ted Gunnison in Hollywood.
	And she was really destitute, and I gave her $300, something like that.
	And I was in contact with her for a long time, too.
	And then all of a sudden, I started having flashbacks of satanic ritual garbage.
	It was really bad.
	And I immediately called Sue Forda.
	And Sue told me, she says, I saw that in you when we met.
	She said, I knew you were at least a Titanic ritual survivor.
	And those flashbacks went on for a week.
	And all of a sudden, I'm remembering a Remington M16 long rifle.
	I didn't even know if such a weapon existed.
	But prior to this, I was doing volunteer work at Mothers Against Sexual Abuse.
	And the gal, I can't remember her name, but I found her online.
	We emailed each other.
	She wanted to do lunch.
	So I went over to her office in Monrovia, California, and I got there an hour early, because I'm always early when I want to meet somebody.
	And there was this 59-year-old Mexican-American who was scared shitless of me when I walked in the door.
	And he's the one that recommended the hypnotherapist.
	And so I had my ex-wife going to this hypnotherapist prior to any of this because she was a child molestation victim as a child, and I wanted her to get over the issues so we could have a better marriage.
	And so this guy told us about it, and so I put myself in hypnotherapy as soon as she left.
	And I had given Mothers Against Sexual Abuse $1,500 because I stopped giving it to those damn churches because most of the churches in this country are front organizations, not all of them.
	Most of them.
	And they're involved with this garbage.
	And so I started having flashbacks to this Remington M16 long rifle.
	So I called this guy up.
	I said, because he was Green Beret in Vietnam.
	I said, is there such a weapon?
	And yes.
	And then I started having more flashbacks of combat, the Bunker Hill action 12.373.
	And he goes, he got really scared.
	He said, you're having a progression.
	You were never in the military.
	I said, well, for me to have a progression, I said, these flashbacks, I remember all the parts on the Remkin M16 long rifle and all that.
	And then I was to meet him.
	Mike's wife left me and he was a go-between between me and her and I'd give him money to give her and so forth.
	She was running around like I was stalking her or something, which I never did.
	I tried to get her to go into marriage therapy.
	She would never do it.
	I mean, she just flipped the switch overnight.
	Turning on me.
	I love this woman to death.
	I've never laid a hand on her.
	Nothing.
	And so then I remembered this guy.
	I said, wait a minute.
	I said, you're...
	And I was going to hypnotherapy and remembering all this NK Ultra Operation Monarch crap, and I had to find out more what that was by researching it.
	And I confronted this guy.
	I said, you were the guy that trained me.
	And he admitted it.
	And made a few admissions, and then he got scared and broke off contact.
	And I kept having these flashbacks and memories, and I'd journal it.
	He told me to journal all my memories, and I did.
	And more memories would come out.
	I'd go get hypnotized.
	So recover repressed memory.
	And then I had to research if all these battles that I was remembering actually happened.
	So I'd find older military people or special operations people and start talking to them.
	And find out that everything I remembered had happened.
	And those kind of people would open up to me more than anyone else because I know what the hell I'm talking about.
	I mean, I have five operational names with six different groups.
	These are all me.
	Delta Force Brigadier General Eugene D. Coles, I am not military.
	I'm not stolen honor.
	I've never been military.
	And so I'm not claiming to be regular SEAL, Delta Force, Force Recon.
	Ranger, Green Beret, or Air Force, but I have an operational name with each as of follows.
	General Delta Force Brigadier General Eugene B. Coulson, SEAL Captain Eugene B. Coulson, Force Free County Lieutenant General Foyalty Browning.
	I wrote three editions of the Classified Book, Advanced Interviews Actions Under Browning, or Special Operations.
	Green Beret Made famous as Captain James T. Wheeler, synonymous with the Battle of Jack Estrates, 1224-74, Central Highlands, Vietnam, later Brigadier Ranger.
	Made famous as Major Lindsey Thompson, known as Lawrence of Afghanistan during the Russian-Afghan War, later Brigadier.
	Air Force Flight Commander Howe Philip Tompkins.
	I wrote the class of my book, Advanced Fighter Tactics.
	I was never fully pilot-qualified, but I could fly the simulator.
	And I'm the guy that figured out the three-stage vertical field blast combustion process, power plant for the Aurora project, SR-72, the SR-73, and the X-83, and they're all basically wide-bodied, bigger, longer SR-71 frames.
	We initially all achieved Mach 17.2, but then in 06, I figured, thought around, well, let me back up.
	In 03, I figured this out in 91 when they figured me to do it from the Gulf 1 in the SR-71 from the Scud Command Center mission and then they figured me back and when I was in the lunchroom with the pilots at Edwards I said well how's the power plant work and they drew out the scramjet or ramjet however you want to call it and it's a giant diesel engine with the only moving parts is the fuel injector and so I figured out three stage first ram gill glass combustion electrical
	And it took me five minutes to do it, and I go, holy shit.
	And there was a lieutenant general who came in the lunchroom, and they said, General, will we inform you?
	Would you please come over here and look at this?
	And he says, I'm too busy with the fucking Lord.
	Leave me the fuck alone.
	And they said, General, this is vital.
	Please take a look at it.
	So they said, explain it to him, General, because I was a general by that time, General Coulson.
	And I explained it to him.
	He goes, holy shit, send this to the text.
	It's the earliest convenience.
	So two years later, a little over two years later, they took me to Northrop Cumming and they said, we've got a problem with the power plant.
	I said, what's your problem?
	They said, we can make the power plant work, but it is too powerful.
	There is nothing we can't build that will not burn up in the atmosphere.
	I said, so you need a fucking radiator.
	They go, yeah, we need a radiator.
	I said, well, what altitude does this fly?
	It's about 356,000 foot.
	Edge of space.
	I said, will the aircraft launch in outer space?
	They go, yes.
	I said, will it return?
	Yes.
	I said, what's the temperature of outer space?
	And they said, 75 below at that altitude in the sun, 255 in the shade.
	I said, you ever skip a flat stone across the pond when you were a child?
	They go, yes.
	I said, skipping in and out of the atmosphere, there's your radiator.
	And they go, that's ingenious.
	I go, what do you expect?
	And they made it work.
	And they all achieved Mach 17.2.
	Now, do you remember in 2000 when China was threatening Taiwan and Putin sent over the Seventh Fleet?
	Yes.
	And China said, if you mess with us, we will nuke LA. Two days later, there's a massive earthquake southeastern China by the sea where a huge chemical weapons plant during seismic movement turned into a crater.
	How did that happen?
	Two thermonuclear bunker busters were dropped from the BSR-73 at 356,000-foot altitude at Mach 17.2, went about a mile underground before detonation.
	And to verify that, you check with people in command centers if we were at levels of DEFCOM 2 when that happened.
	And how do I know?
	Because I came up with the power plant, I was in the co-pilot seat, left-hand seat, I took it off, pulled the trigger, and landed it.
	In September of 06, I was thinking about the power plant for about a week.
	So I emailed Dr.
	Sugar, CEO of Northrop Grumman, and I said, let's make a deal.
	I figured out how to make it go faster.
	Well, their form of let's make a deal was gas my house, set it, a van at oak, and sodium pentothal, and I was taken down the road to the library in an RV, and I figured out the six missing links for the X-83.
	The X-83 flies to the space station.
	And if everything I figured out was a strap-on for, at the rear of the aircraft, very minor modifications, just additions, and they all now achieve Mach 26.4, slingshot escape velocity, safety margin, Mach 2.
	Now, do you remember in 91 when they canceled, they had already built 21 B-2 cell bombers?
	Do you remember that?
	Well, not exactly, but I take your word for it.
	Go ahead.
	Well, they canceled the contract.
	They were supposed to have 176 of them.
	When I figured out Three States First Ream Guild blast combustion, it made all those aircraft obsolete.
	And that's evidence of what I'm telling you.
	Okay.
	Now, let's go back to me finding out.
	Well, I'm having all these flashbacks, and I'm researching myself, and everything I remembered was true.
	And I filed a claim with...
	The VA, I believe it was Colonel Joseph Smith, I think that was his name, head of the VA in 03.
	I spent like 30 to 40 hours with him.
	He knew who I was before we met.
	He knew about all my five operational names.
	He knew how MKUltra worked.
	And he was doing everything he could to get me benefits.
	I had filed a claim with Congressman David Dreyer's office, spoke to David Alitas, his aide.
	His aide knew who I was before I walked through the door.
	And knew how the program worked.
	I moved to Florida, filed a claim with Congressman Micah's office.
	His aide knew who I was before I walked through the door.
	And tried.
	And knew how the program worked.
	And I would find people that served with me.
	I was people that knew about these military operations.
	Dozens of names to each.
	And nobody did a damn thing.
	And when I moved up north, I filed a claim with a local congressman here.
	And his aide played stupid, but he was scared shitless.
	And I gave him operational names, gave him the schematic of the Aurora Project power plant, also a schematic of a 9,800 meter sniper round that I conceptually designed.
	Now I'm not a scientist, I'm not a physicist, I'm not a metallurgist, I'm not an engineer, but my conceptual designs did it.
	I was the top shadow warrior, super soldier, however you want to call it.
	And I got verification of that recently because super warrior is a new term for me.
	Shadow warrior program is what I was in.
	And I don't know if that's the real name of the program or just a slang term.
	But I'm not Superman.
	God protected me on all my missions.
	And because he protected me, they knew it.
	Because a lot of these guys that are running all this shit are a bunch of devil worshippers, and they know when God protects somebody.
	So I was at the front and the middle of the most dangerous positions, and very quickly I was leading missions.
	And the only mission I was ever on that failed was that Iranian debacle in the desert in 1980, where Carter sent everybody over to Iran to go rescue the hostage.
	Probably well it just would have failed, because we probably all got killed anyway.
	But every other mission I was on, was a success and I took a lot of very screwed up missions and turned them into a success.
	Do you have any questions?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay, so can you tell me when you stopped doing missions?
	The last mission I did was the first Wednesday in January of 08 where I woke up and C-130 all doped up like you're really drunk and I'm wearing a uniform I cannot recognize and I said to the guys with me,
	because everybody's wearing the same uniform, because I was trying to see what uniform I was wearing, if there's a name tag on it or anything, so I knew who I was with, whether I was on a SEAL, Delta Force, Force Recon, Ranger, Green Beret, but there weren't enough people, so, you know, we pretty much limited to SEAL and Delta Force.
	There were probably 20 of us on a high support unit where you got We're going up high altitudes in the back of a C-130.
	It's a head atmosphere.
	And so I said, well, where's my jacket?
	It's hanging on the wall.
	And then I looked down.
	I said, well, where's my weapon's back?
	They said, it's in front of me.
	And there was a broken down Remington M16 long rifle, 8.3.
	And that fires an eight and a half inch aviation, 50 count an hour.
	It's a big fucking gun.
	So I start to put it together.
	It's, oh, no, no, no, let Linda do that.
	Linda was a G.I. James.
	And when I woke up, I wasn't at a mind control state.
	I was myself.
	And so then when I woke up again, we landed two C-130s about 30 clicks from the end of the cocaine corridor in Nicaragua.
	They have a corridor cut out of the jungle from the coca plantations all the way, I believe it's to Managua.
	I'm not sure, but where they have a dirt road where they haul the cocaine to be shipped wherever they're going to ship it.
	It was a semi-annual harvest.
	And you had two sandbag fortifications mirroring each other.
	And we drove Russian trucks, which the Nicaraguan army uses Russian trucks, back there.
	And we were wearing Nicaraguan special ops uniforms.
	That's why I couldn't recognize it.
	We had a firefight and, you know, we took the first fortification, killed everybody and it died.
	And we're having a firefight with the second one because they mirrored each other.
	And they had a couple Russian-like machine guns, plus guys with the AK. And I jumped up on the Palisade wall, and I'm swinging the machete around.
	I said, you can't kill me, Tom.
	God says I'm dead.
	As soon as I said that, I got hit in the chest in the arm-resistant vest, or bullet-resistant vest, and two holes shot the machete, knocked out of my hand.
	And the captain goes, He says, Captain Coulson, you're going nuts.
	You're going to get killed.
	I said, you're not dealing with Captain Coulson.
	You're dealing with me.
	And he goes, oh shit.
	And as soon as I said that, he's on the horn with Bush.
	And I said, we spent half of our ammo.
	The mission was failing.
	And I said, I'm not going to leave the first mission as myself and fail.
	I said, who's going with me?
	A guy volunteered to follow me, and we went around.
	I left my vest and everything, took a.45 and a machete, and took the other side.
	And as soon as the seals come up to my left palisade wall, and I order everyone to cease fire, and the captain goes, or the lieutenant goes, our orders are to kill everybody who sees the cocaine.
	I said, well, I'm countermanding those fucking orders right now.
	So I disarmed them all.
	I got them all squatting down with their hands behind their heads and piled their weapons in the middle of the floor while I'm throwing an MP-45 with them, while I'm arguing with President George Bush Jr.
	on where I get the authority to countermand his orders.
	I said, well, I get it from you, Mr.
	fucking President.
	You issued orders not to torture prisoners or execute prisoners, and you signed international greetings to that.
	I said, so you gave me that kind of fucking authority.
	And my headset goes dead.
	And I see the captain whispering into his.
	If I point to 45 in his head, I hand him my headset, and I put his on.
	He said, as soon as the guy looks the wrong way, jump him.
	I said, well, we got that guy under control right now.
	He said, when did that happen?
	I said, I've always been under control, Mr.
	President.
	I said, obviously you're a president, but you're not a gentleman.
	So we're arguing for a while, and finally I got in my way.
	He agreed.
	Oh, but...
	There was a point, my blood pressure was going through the roof because I was hopped up on a drug called Killer Cocktail.
	And Killer Cocktail turns you into Superman.
	It's like PCP, only you can critically think, you get kind of giddy, it's funny.
	And Linda tried to sneak up on me and stick me with a hypo.
	And I turned around.45 between her eyes and she's shaking like a leaf.
	And they had one of those spools of wires, you know, they hang telephone wire and all that.
	That the Nicaragans had for a table and a couple crates of prevention.
	And the captain, Nicaraguan captain, was totally fluent in English.
	He was quite a gentleman.
	And he was sitting there.
	He knew I was saving their asses.
	And I told the captain, I said, Captain, my blood pressure is going through the roof.
	I need about a quarter shot of that hypo from Linda over there.
	But if I let her do it, she's going to give me the whole thing.
	I'm going to pass out and you're dead.
	And he's...
	And I said, if I slide my.45 over to you, would you shoot her if she gives me the whole thing?
	And he smiles and he says, slide me the weapon.
	So he puts his hand on it.
	He doesn't grab it.
	And he says, what's this not me from shooting you?
	I said, listen to the sound underneath the tape.
	I had a.38 on my right leg.
	I pulled it and I cocked it.
	I said, I got a.38 in which it falls.
	And he smiles.
	He said, give him the shot.
	She couldn't jab me.
	She had to jab me like four times just to get the needle in because she was thinking so bad.
	I got the quarter shot.
	He gave me the weapon back and pushed our screen.
	You gave a load of weapons to a prisoner.
	That's against the Uniform Code Book of Military Justice.
	And I took the weapon, pointed it at my head, pulled the trigger.
	I said, Captain, did I just pull the weapon at my head?
	He goes, yes.
	And I opened it.
	I said, is the action clear?
	And he goes, yes.
	As soon as I did that, I dropped the magazine and the weapon, had another one in my hand, slammed it home with cocks and locks right there.
	And Bush says, he doesn't have a loaded weapon.
	Rush him!
	And the lieutenant said, the weapon is now loaded.
	So we took the wounded prisoners and we duct taped them to the unwounded ones so they would have to carry them.
	And I threw an AK over the wall and told the lieutenant, now you can defend yourself with your troops.
	And that was that.
	That was the last mission I was on.
	Okay, so when you say 08, you mean 2008?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	First Wednesday in January of 08.
	I don't know the exact date.
	All right.
	And all of this came back to you.
	Was this during when you were being hypnotized?
	No, no.
	I was in hypnotherapy from 2001 to late 2004.
	And I didn't need it anymore because I was remembering everything on my own.
	Okay.
	Like, the mission, even though they, see, when you do something on a mission, they'll dial you up, get inside your head, they can program the mind like a computer, especially if they started at age five, which is your typical N.K. Alter Operation Monarch victim.
	You know, they'll torture and molest children to cause the mind to split.
	And it's a natural reaction that your mind does.
	Even people that have been in a horrendous Accidents.
	Their mind will split and they won't remember what happened.
	Well, they designed this.
	This was all designed by Joseph Mangula.
	And they needed recruits.
	When they brought him over to Operation Paperclip, they needed recruits to train.
	So they taught the satanic grottos and covens how to do this.
	And child molestation And rape and torture is a very big part of devil worship.
	And that's how I grew up.
	I mean, the guy that started to train me initially was the first guy in the Korean War to go out with a knife all night long.
	And he was the baddest of the bad.
	And then when I was five.
	He moved into my neighborhood.
	He started training me when I was five.
	I was put in program when I was five.
	And the last rank he held was Special Ops Advisory General.
	But I just recently found out that he also helped initially train Chuck Norris.
	This guy was a bad motherfucker.
	And I think he's still alive and he lives down there on the border between Arizona In Mexico.
	This guy is a mass murderer like you can't believe.
	If you went down there at his place, around his place with cadaver dogs, you'd probably find thousands of poor Mexicans just coming up, trying to come up to this country, being tortured to death by this guy, because that's what he did.
	Okay, and the guy you're saying, this guy, what's his name?
	I'm not going to blame his name on this particular show.
	All right.
	I will...
	In the later shows, I will name names.
	Not this one.
	All right.
	Fair enough.
	So, someone in the chat says they think you were in jail in 2006.
	Is that true?
	I was locked on 2006.
	No, I was not.
	Okay.
	I did get locked up for six years on Trump applies and bullshit, but no, I was not locked up in 2006.
	Okay.
	When did you get locked up?
	2010.
	Alright, and when you were locked up, why were you locked up?
	Do you know?
	Because I had police come in my house and start shooting through walls trying to kill me with my girlfriend's 15 year old daughter in the back room, in her bedroom.
	I treated her like my daughter.
	They declared me incompetent for perceived because I said, I've been fighting with the government trying to get benefits in retirement for stuff I did.
	So because I said that, oh you're incompetent for perceived.
	And once the first person says that, you're screwed.
	You spend a half hour with somebody, and they write up a report, and that's listed as gossip.
	Nobody proves anything.
	This court system is a total sham.
	I agree with that.
	I didn't realize how corrupt the court system and the police are until I had to deal with them.
	I don't have a criminal record up until this point.
	Okay, so somebody declared you incompetent on some level?
	Incompetent to proceed.
	What does that mean?
	That means they want a mental evaluation.
	And did they give you one?
	Yeah, numerous.
	And I'd say the same thing.
	You know, I've been fighting with the government trying to get benefits.
	And I do, whenever I do anything, I do it lawfully incorrect.
	I don't threaten anyone.
	All right.
	You know, I follow the law.
	And to try to get benefits, I was doing it, you know, filing grievance with the congressman, regressing grievances.
	I wasn't doing anything on my own.
	And I don't do that.
	And I don't intend to do that.
	All right.
	So you were in jail or prison for, did you say six years?
	Six years.
	All right.
	So how did you get out?
	After five years, if they don't find you confident to proceed, they've got to let you go if you're not a threat.
	And I was never a threat.
	Right.
	But they kept me in there for six years, and they said, he's not a threat.
	So they had to let me go.
	Because to be found confident, you've got to say, oh, I trust the court system.
	I trust the judge.
	They're fair and good and impartial and all that.
	And if anybody's spent any time watching these guys and the games they play, very few of them are fair and impartial.
	Right.
	You're screwed.
	Look what they did with the Bundys in Oregon.
	They just released them the other day.
	Alright, yeah.
	I mean, that's the way it is.
	When Uncle Sam does not like you, you're screwed.
	And at the level that the federal government works with the local police departments, they tell almost every police officer, That if martial law is declared, there are people that are victims of CIA, MKUltra, Operation Monarch, mind control, that if martial law is declared, all these people are arrested and put in prison for the rest of their lives.
	That's what they tell most police officers.
	The government does.
	All right.
	Well, that's a good warning.
	So where were you incarcerated?
	Do you know?
	Yeah, but we'll leave that out for now.
	We'll leave that for another show.
	They sent me to two different mental facilities.
	I spent a year total in county jail and that is a nightmare.
	They starved you.
	They tortured me in county jail.
	They kept me awake several different times for over a week trying to induce heart attack.
	They torture you.
	If you need reading glasses, it's hard to get.
	They'll put you in isolation, which is a nightmare.
	It's a nightmare.
	Half the people that I saw in there didn't belong in there.
	And the first mental facility for an evaluation they sent me to, half the people there did not belong there.
	The second one, most of the people in there belonged there.
	There were only a few that did.
	Okay.
	You know, I have no history of being violent with anyone.
	I'm not violent now.
	I don't threaten people now.
	The only threat I am to people is exposing the truth and asking God to deal with these perverts.
	All right, fair enough.
	So it looks like from the bio that you sent me, you said you had 444 operations that you remembered, right?
	I don't remember all of them.
	I was told I was on 444 major covert actions.
	No, I don't remember them all.
	Right.
	And that's not including a lot of little stuff.
	I appreciate that.
	Now, have you ever seen any of my videos?
	I watched the one with Tompkins last night.
	Okay.
	Talking about the World War II E.T. stuff.
	Which was interesting.
	The first video I watched that you did, I watched a few minutes of the other one.
	Because my Air Force flight operational name is Duncan, spelled just the same way.
	Okay, so the reason I'm asking you that is because you never saw my interview with the so-called super soldier, which is Duncan O'Finian.
	You haven't seen that, have you?
	I watched a little bit of that.
	I watched a little bit of that.
	How old is Duncan?
	Well, that's what I'm wondering if you guys are about the same age.
	I was...
	After, you know, before you ask what kind of kill ratio I have, I think it would be good for me to do a recount of the Bunker Hill action 1223-73, which is one of the most classified, famous actions in Vietnam.
	And they tell damn near every Marine in boot camp and a lot of your Army people about Bunker Hill 1223-73, one man with conviction.
	Who took out the NBA Special Ops Company by himself.
	All right, go ahead.
	Okay, well, I spent...
	I was told that earliest I was in Vietnam was when I was 12.
	I remember some tunnel rat stuff, but not very much of that.
	The mission...
	Alice in Wonderland, I think it was in November of 72.
	It was in 72 where we went to a POW camp and we're going to rescue all the U.S. POWs.
	And the movie Rocky First Blood Part 2 is loosely based on Alice in Wonderland.
	We had a U.S. Air Force woman.
	She's also an MKUltra victim.
	We had a history together.
	She's about 10 years older than me, but she was the hooker decoy of To distract them at the front gate.
	I won't go into that mission, but it should have failed because we were, we had a couple of hooties shot down with RPGs when they landed us in these small rice, dried up rice paddies in dry season.
	And the one she was in, an RPG, misfired, bounced off of it and exploded.
	And the guy in it threw her out at about 10, 12 foot altitude at the starboard And I went to rescue her, and she was in shock.
	And we got overrun, and I had to retreat, and spent all my ammo, came back with an AK, and everybody followed me, and we rescued her.
	And the mission was failing.
	Beckwith was in command.
	Okay, what was the objective of Alice in Wonderland?
	To go to the prison camp and rescue the POWs.
	All right.
	And was that a success or not?
	Well, we captured the prison camp, but it was empty.
	They moved the prisoners three days prior, and how we knew this was three guys escaped, but they were trying to move and were hiding in the jungle, and we rescued them.
	But the nature of the beast, they were probably just taken back and killed.
	I seriously doubt they were allowed to live.
	Why?
	Why would they be killed?
	Why would the United States ever admit we rescued any prisoners?
	Why not?
	I don't know.
	They might be alive for all I know.
	I just don't know how these jerks operate.
	Alright.
	They might be alive, they might not.
	I don't know.
	I'm just guessing they probably killed them.
	But, you know, before we took the compound, the gal that was Alice was having a nervous breakdown and it took her a while to come to.
	She was wearing a blue silk, like a kimono thing under her uniform.
	And all the guys were coming back with Mission Scrub.
	We had a battle.
	We're discovered.
	We can't go in there.
	He says, what can I do to get you guys to finish the mission?
	Because there's gunfire goes off around here all the time.
	They said, we'll finish the mission.
	He said, next time we do a fucking mission like that, that little motherfucker's coming with us, referring to me.
	They said, if anybody's going to save our ass, if we get cut off, He's going to do it because of the way I went back and saved Alice.
	All right.
	Well, that was Alice in Wonderland.
	Now, Parker Hill, 1223-73, they sent me in another guy who's two weeks younger than me over there for experience.
	And this guy, The Walking Arsenal, Hackworth's book soldier, He came out in 79.
	Great book.
	I recommend everybody read it.
	Colonel Hackworth was a Medal of Honor winner from Korea.
	And they sent him out of Vietnam, and he got drummed out of the military because he was fighting the wind.
	But he described the guy that trained me.
	And he said he was the most notorious guy in Vietnam.
	He said he was a tall, blonde-headed guy from New York when he wasn't doing military missions, was a mafia hitman.
	In reality, he was a short Mexican-American from California, about 5'3", real thick glasses, and real skinny arms.
	And he was one bad motherfucker.
	Him and his spotter would go out and do missions and come back and report.
	Well, nobody believed him because the numbers were off the charts.
	So they talked to a radio man, and this is what it says in the book.
	They talked to a radio man to go out with him.
	And the first radio man came out with him And they came across a 28-man NVA patrol.
	Four and a half hours later, all 28 were dead.
	He'd set up the firing position and run and cut them off and get them running back and forth so they were all dead.
	And he was the best.
	He was a good shot.
	He wasn't a great shot, but he was the best stalker in the world, and there were a lot of people running around over there.
	He went through five radio operators.
	And none of them go out with me one, two, three times.
	They say, you can shoot me and kill me, stab me, put me in the living room for the rest of my fucking life.
	I'm not going out with that motherfucker again.
	And after that, nobody questioned him.
	He would get 20 to 50 kills every time he went out.
	Okay, how does that relate?
	All right, fair enough.
	But how does that relate to Bunker Hill?
	Well, this is the guy that trained me, and I was with him.
	I went out with him four times.
	On, you know, standard search and destroy.
	I got 89 kills.
	Anybody who was a decent shot and knew how to use a knife, if they went out with him four times, would have got 89 kills.
	All right.
	Well, then they took me and this other guy, and they took us up to the DMZ. And you had a marine company facing a NDA company.
	And twice a day, one in the morning, one in the afternoon, they'd have a shootout where they'd shoot at each other.
	Nobody gets killed, nobody gets wounded, and then you're acting like they're doing their duty.
	And, you know, we were with the Army, and this was a Marine, and this captain says, I'm a short-timer, a lot of my guys are short-timers, I don't want you guys fucking anything up.
	And so they had the morning shootout.
	Well, all the Marines are, nobody's watching, all the Marines are drinking coffee, smoking cigarettes, And the NBA are over there eating rice and drinking tea.
	And the Arsenal comes up and he says, well, the NBA are going to do an attack through here in three days, three nights, and all these Marines are going to be killed.
	He says, you know, after a shootout like this in the morning, somebody could walk across the kill zone and go take out the enemy.
	Nobody would even know it because these GIs are drinking coffee, smoking cigarettes, and the pigs are over there eating rice and drinking tea and shit.
	He said, I ain't telling you guys what to do, but I'll see you later.
	And I turned to my sidekick, and I said, I have a plan.
	And every time I said that, this sidekick always said, oh, shit.
	So we grabbed two bags of frag grenades and willy-peat, which is thermite phosphorus.
	We ran across the kill zone, and they had a sawtooth trench on the other side.
	And they're all in there, and we both throw a willy-peat.
	And when a thermite phosphorus goes off, even if a little bit hits you, you're screaming bloody murder.
	And the guys who got really covered, they were fucked.
	And so after we threw the first ones, then he's pulling the pins of these hand grenades and Willie Pete's in front of me and I'm dispersing them around the trench.
	Well, the Marines saw what was going on.
	They come rushing across to kill them all.
	Because if they didn't kill them all, somebody got away, the NBA would tell what happened.
	And there's going to be payback.
	When one side does something for another side, there's fucking payback.
	And so the Marine captain is having a nervous breakdown.
	He says, fuck, fuck, what are you doing?
	He said, you're going to get everybody fucking killed.
	We're going to get airstrikes.
	We're going to get artillery.
	They're going to fucking kill us.
	And the arsenal says, how many NVA do you think you were facing, captain?
	And he says, oh, maybe 150, 200.
	He says, better count them.
	There were 400.
	He said, you see those two stockpiles of mortars?
	He goes, yes, there were over a thousand mortars in each stockpile.
	He said, they're going to come through here and kill you in three nights.
	He goes, why wasn't I told?
	He said, I'm telling you right now.
	He says, get those two motherfucking gun scouts from hell and get them the fuck out of here.
	And he says, I can't do that, Captain.
	Orders, we've got to wait till we're relieved.
	And he says, I'll fix your fucking orders right now.
	He says, those two son of a bitch have saved our lives.
	Defeated a superior force.
	I'm recommending for both the Medal of Honor.
	Now you got to get them the fuck out of here.
	So over there we went.
	And now that created a problem for the NBA because they're going to hit them.
	Well, they sent their special ops company down to do recon for a battalion that was going to come through there.
	Reinforced battalion.
	And we knew they were We're going to do recon, so they sent three LERP teams, three Green Beret LERP teams, Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol, two Marine Scout Snipers, and me and this other guy.
	And they sent us along for more experience.
	And these were the baddest of the bad in Vietnam.
	Have you ever seen pictures of those guys in Vietnam with ear necklaces?
	Well, no, I guess not.
	Well, I mean, children on educational TV, guys, they kill the enemy and they make necklaces out of their ears.
	These guys had ear necklaces like Mr.
	T's gold.
	They were 20 to 40 feet long.
	And these weren't their only necklaces.
	All right.
	Are these Americans?
	Wait, wait.
	Are these American soldiers?
	Really?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Absolutely.
	Ear necklaces were very common amongst the real killers.
	So we spent the night in the bush.
	The entire time we were out, they had F4 Phantoms flammed on the tarmac, loaded with napalm.
	Our mission was to find the NBA Special Ops Company and call it a napalm strike.
	So we spent the night in the bush, and first light, Misty, came out of this clearing that was probably 200 yards wide, 300 yards long.
	And they had family-sized rice paddies in it.
	Now, it probably wasn't quite that big.
	It was probably about half that size, but about 80 yards out, there was a knoll in front of us.
	And we're walking along the edges of the rice paddy, and we got about 40 yards to the rice paddy.
	The NBA Special Ops Company was behind the rice paddy, and they opened up on us.
	Everybody else jumped into this 40 by 40 Rice patty.
	It's a dry season, so, you know, it wasn't real, real mutton.
	There was some moisture in it.
	And I fired and maneuvered and ran to the right and then back in the jungle.
	And I ran as fast as I could, cutting myself through the jungle with a machete.
	And I came up to the right, slightly behind the knoll.
	And there was like a four foot blown off tree stone.
	I had a Remington, and they called him the walking arsenal because he carried more weapons and ammo and hand grenades than everybody else put together.
	I was outfitted like him.
	The only difference was he had an M1 sniper rifle.
	I had a Remington M16 long rifle series one.
	It's four foot ten, sixteen pounds empty.
	And the reason I had it, I had the upper body strength to be able to handle the weapon.
	He did not.
	I had a M16A1, one Vanillero of ammo, which is eight 20-round mags, plus the one in the weapon.
	A Vanillero of ammo with a long rifle, which is four 15-round mags and one in the weapon.
	And I emptied the long rifle.
	I emptied the M16, and I got about half of it.
	And they were so busy shooting at the guys in the rice paddy, they didn't realize they were under attack from behind.
	And I had a sawed-off Remington Which is six in the mag, one in the chamber.
	And the sleeve was in the AKPAC, but I also had a combat sleeve where I could put it beside my right calf when I had to move and be able to reach for it very quickly.
	I had dropped my AKPACs and I went in there with the Remington pump.
	And I threw three hand grenades around the corner.
	And then I went in to get them.
	And at point blank range, I emptied the Remington, dropped it.
	I pulled a.45, 1911 Colt, emptied it, dropped it.
	I had a hammerless five-shot Smith underneath my left arm, shoulder holster, emptied it, dropped it.
	An NDA, and these were their special guys.
	They had the green uniforms, not the tangles.
	And he wheels around, he tries to stick me with a bandette.
	I elbowed him in the face with my left elbow, took the AK away from him, emptied it, And acquired two more of the same manner and maybe two more.
	One, maybe two.
	I can't be sure on that.
	And then there were six guys running at me one at a time.
	I pulled my K-bar and I parried the bayonet, stick them in a lever and cut their throat.
	I went through six, one at a time.
	Fortunately for me, they were coming at me one at a time.
	And all that was left was the captain.
	And all he had was a 9x11 talker off and a swizzle stick.
	So I'm wearing a Korean War style armor resistant vest because it had a skirt on it.
	And the reason they gave me that was because of the skirt because you can hang a band of arrow around the skirt and it's not going to fall off.
	And he emptied that and I go in to get him and he beat me upside the right side of my face with his swizzle stick.
	I stuck him in the liver and then cut his throat.
	And everything's quiet.
	I yelled to everybody.
	I said, ollie, ollie, I'm income free.
	They go, hey, Gene, is that you?
	I go, yeah.
	They said, where are all the good?
	They're all dead, but some of them are wiggling.
	Well, they come stealthily around each side of the knoll.
	And Marine Scout Cypress says Olympic, which means all clear.
	And the arsenal goes, look at this shit.
	Look at this fucking shit.
	He goes, all right, Murphy, ain't got nothing on you.
	And I'm having a nervous breakdown at this point in time.
	And I said, I said, shit.
	I said, this took 15 minutes.
	I just got that NBA battalion up north.
	Give me a couple hours.
	I'll kill them all.
	And they said, well, you're out of ammo.
	Well, they said, where are your weapons?
	I said, all over the fucking place because I had an AK. I said, this is my weapon now.
	And they said, you're out of ammo.
	So I'm running around grabbing the 7.62 ammo up as quickly as I can.
	And they said he's in shock.
	So they said, give him a shot of morphine.
	So the medic gave me a shot of jelly shot of morphine in the ass.
	I didn't get the whole thing.
	I turn around.
	I pull my K-bar.
	One guy grabs the hand with the K-bar.
	Another guy grabs my other hand.
	They take the knife away from me.
	Hit me in the ass with another one.
	Jelly morphine.
	Then I bend over.
	I said, well, fuck you very much.
	I'm going to get another bayonet.
	I reach out and get it.
	They hit me in the ass with another one.
	And I'm kind of like, I just collapsed.
	So they sent me on this log near where the captain's down.
	And, uh, Communication sergeant gets on the horn, and our call sign was Delta-1, and base was Beta-1, and he says, come in Beta-1, come in Beta-1, you have Delta-1.
	Got you, Delta-1.
	Reach each other loud and clear.
	They said, what's your SITREP? They said, acquired target, target, which means we found them.
	The Marine captain on the other end said, watch the alert fighters.
	They said, fast movers inbound, what are your coordinates?
	And the communication sergeant says, acquired target, acquired target, which means they're down.
	The Marine Captain says, how so?
	One man got them all.
	He said, fast movers inbound, what are your quarters?
	So he's arguing.
	He said, the target's down!
	They're dead!
	And he's arguing.
	Finally, Captain Moore gets on there, Green Beret Captain Moore, and he's arguing with the guy.
	And while he's arguing with the captain, he says, they're dead!
	They're fucking dead!
	And by this time, we're hearing the big air of those fighters.
	You can't see them, but they're close.
	And they're loaded in the gills with napalm.
	And everybody is quite nervous.
	And I said to him, I said to the walking arsenal, I said, can I have a beer now?
	Because he gave me his little flask of tequila and I'm smoking a cigarette.
	And the arsenal said to Captain Moore, he says, yeah, tell him the guy who did it wants to have a beer.
	And he said, yeah, Captain Moore said, the guy who did it wants a beer.
	And the Marine Captain on the other end says, you can't have any beer in an operational zone.
	You know that's against protocol.
	And, you know, everybody's laughing.
	A couple of the guys were having nervous breakdowns with me.
	Everybody else was laughing and finally the walking arsenal says, tell Colonel Beckwith, Beckwith was our base commander, founder of Delta Force, that Sergeant the walking arsenal, I'll leave his name out of it for now, wants to speak with Colonel Beckwith.
	Well Colonel Beckwith could be in a meeting with the Lieutenant General.
	When the walking arsenal wants to speak with him, he's going to speak to him.
	So he gets on there and says, what you said, rep?
	He said, acquire target target, acquire target.
	He said, how so?
	He said, Private Colson did it again.
	They said, well, how'd he do it?
	And, you know, because they'd staked all my weapons.
	Once I was sitting on the long, they brought me all my weapons, reloaded, but I only hit two rounds with a long rifle, because I was the only one with a long rifle, and it had two extra rounds and a butt plate.
	And everything else, they gave me full load, and Well, one magazine is short.
	And, you know, so he's explaining it to Colonel Beckwith how I did it.
	And then they get to the captain.
	He said, how many did he kill?
	He said, we'll get your count.
	110, Colonel.
	And then he gets to the captain.
	And he tells them all the ones I cut their throat with a knife.
	And he says, pick the captain up by his shirt.
	Because his head was off kilter of his body, laying it.
	So I picked him up by the shirt, and the only thing holding his head on to his body was his skin at the back of the neck.
	And I saw that, and I threw up very loudly.
	And the article goes, God damn!
	In fact, he goes, what do you see?
	What do you see?
	He said, Private Colson cut the throat of the captain with such force he damn near decapitated him.
	And the only thing holding his head on to his neck is the skin on the back of his neck.
	And Beckwith goes, what was that loud noise I heard?
	He said, that would be Private Coulson throwing up.
	He said, well, how's he doing?
	He said, well, we got him doped up.
	We got Coulson doped up on morphine.
	He said, why?
	Is he wounded?
	And the article says, no.
	Negative on wounded.
	He said, then why don't you dope him up?
	He said, because he wouldn't stand down.
	He said, what do you mean he wouldn't stand down?
	He says, was there enemy in the area?
	He goes, negative on enemy in the area.
	Then who wouldn't he stand down to?
	He said, Private Coulson He was going to invade North Vietnam and take on that battalion by himself.
	And Beckwith goes, well, I thought you said he didn't have any, he ran out of ammo.
	Private Coulson was gathering the leftover 7.62 ammo for his invasion.
	In fact, we, you know, we tried to stop him and he was going to fight us.
	So we had to dump him up on more for him to get him to stop.
	And he goes, no shit.
	He goes, no shit.
	Colonel, you might want to come up here and take a look.
	This is pretty incredible.
	And, of course, Beckwith said, well, how many did you kill?
	He said, none.
	He said, Colston saved our bacon.
	We'd be dead if he didn't do it.
	Well, then you hear the mic bounce off the desk, and the ring captain says, Beckwith and Beer inbound.
	We didn't give you our fucking coordinates, so we hear from an airport, the air flight commander, that Those fighters are on the tarmac.
	Well, they got back with us and said, no, they had to fly high cover just in case NBA sent any jets to attack us.
	And that was Bunker Hill.
	Okay, so the purpose of all of this, I understand, you know, you did a lot.
	And you're basically saying you're also a sniper.
	Isn't that right?
	Yes.
	I never went to sniper school.
	Before the Bunker Hill mission, The arsenal threw a manual at me for a Remington M16 Long Rifle Series 1, and here's your weapon, you're a sniper now.
	My sniper training was in the field.
	Most of my military training was in the field.
	Okay.
	Now, in terms of the MKUltra and your recall of these situations, when you're telling me it, are you kind of reliving it again?
	I remember Bunker Hill like it was yesterday.
	Yeah, it's pretty fucking hard.
	All right.
	So, have you gone and told this to anybody other than a therapist?
	I mean, weren't you on, you told me that you had your own show.
	Every time I'd come across somebody in the military, I've been fighting trying to get benefits since 2000.
	All right.
	And the only way for me to put pressure on Uncle Sam is to tell what the fuck's been happening.
	But they were still using me up until 2008.
	Right.
	They were still getting inside of my head and that finally stopped in 2010.
	They can't do that shit to me anymore.
	Alright.
	So, did you have any particular therapist?
	Are you able to talk about who that was?
	I'm not going to give his name, but he designed the turbans for the F-117 stealth fighter.
	And when I started remembering the...
	Flight characteristics of the F-117 because he designed the turbines.
	He had been in a simulator and tried to fly it.
	Now a simulator is much more difficult to fly than the real thing.
	And so under hypnotherapy, I told him about half of the features of F-117.
	I don't remember all the features of aircraft because they're very complicated things.
	I would have to sit in a cockpit for my memory to totally return on that.
	So I don't remember everything in a fight.
	All right, but you're saying the guy who kind of did hypnotherapy on you was an enlisted guy then?
	No, no.
	The guy who did hypnotherapy was the engineer who designed the F-117 turbines.
	All right.
	So he was not a soldier.
	He was not a soldier.
	He was just an engineer working, what, for an aerospace company?
	I can't remember who built the F-117.
	Yes, he worked for an aerospace company.
	All right.
	And then he became a psychologist later.
	I see.
	Are you still in touch with him?
	No.
	Okay.
	So, how many times did you, you know, visit him?
	Like, did you get regressed?
	Once a week.
	For how long?
	Once a week for four years.
	Wow.
	All right.
	So...
	You see, one thing I want to put out there, though.
	See, I've tried to help three MKUltra women that were victims.
	But in each case, the perps got them to turn on me.
	All right.
	I know how they program you.
	I know how they did it.
	You want to do a show on that sometime, it'll take me a while to prepare it because all my stuff, I mean, I did have a three-hour show laid out to tell people how to recognize it and what to do.
	But I think my hypnotherapist knew a lot more about MK Alter and what was going on than he led on to me.
	Right.
	Okay, fair enough.
	So you also told me that you had a show and that you were on, didn't you tell me you were on like, I don't know, was it Coast to Coast or somewhere?
	BBC, Internet BBC Radio.
	It was Mind Controlled America with Eugene B. Colson.
	Okay, and when was that?
	2008, I think six or eight months I had it, but it was very hard for me To get guests to come on the show.
	And in fact, when I was doing radio shows, it was very hard for me to get guests to get on shows because I'm the real deal.
	Because most of the people that are saying they're exposing the Illuminati, the Jesuits, and N.K. Alter are, in fact, part of it.
	Okay.
	So it was difficult for me to get on shows.
	Now, there was a guy I did a lot of missions with.
	He was Lieutenant Colonel Greg Rinship.
	He was probably the greatest shot sniper the country ever had.
	I mean, before I figured out the six and a half mile round, he got a shot at four and a half miles.
	And he spent a lot of shows on the Daniel Ott show.
	We'll call him Lieutenant Colonel SC or Lieutenant Colonel Greg Winshak.
	And when I went up to visit him in April of 08, the day before I was going to leave, he was getting death threats because I was there.
	Whenever I get involved in something, they're either going to try to kill somebody or they're going to threaten to kill people.
	Because they don't want my truth getting out.
	Okay.
	Now, I have a witness.
	I don't know if you know about him, but Captain Mark Richards of the Secret Space Program, who says that Vietnam was really a battle with some interdimensional spiders that were the size of VWs.
	Did you ever...
	I have...
	No, nothing like that.
	In fact, you know, I watched your shows.
	I've been in portions of Area 51, and everything they have, they make.
	And it's all pre-floodment and technology.
	Now, there are other dimensions, and there could be some stuff in other dimensions that we're not aware of because, you know, The Philadelphia experiment, where Tesla did that thing in Philadelphia, they put that destroyer in another dimension.
	That was real.
	And they have some stuff similar to that.
	It's like on a B2 or an F117 generator that can put you in another dimension, but it really messes you up when you're around it.
	You get an instant migraine, and if you're around it too long, you're dead.
	Not only will the aircraft be invisible, I mean radar invisible, it will be invisible.
	So there's a lot of stuff that they do, and there's a lot of information, disinformation out there.
	Now you've got to keep in mind, and this is what I think when a lot of these people have seen a lot of these different things, like they say shapeshifters and all that, these, what do you call it, where the hologram technology is probably a pre-flood technology, and don't think they still don't use that stuff.
	So I personally don't believe in the shapeshifters and a lot of this other stuff.
	I think people have really seen what they've seen, but they're seeing possible hologram technology.
	Alright, so as far as MKUltra, how did you find out that you were actually MKUltra'd?
	I mean, in what way were you MKUltra'd?
	Well, as Operation Monarch, MKUltra was supposed to be cancelled in 78 by the Senate.
	You can download 178 pages They ordered the CIA cease and desist and destroy all the records.
	Well, they didn't cease and desist or anything.
	They just changed it to Operation Monarch.
	Now, there's two forms of Monarch.
	There's M-O-N-A-R-C-H, which is your everyday mind control victim, if we can even say something like that.
	Sure.
	Then there's M-O-N-A-R-K, which are the ultimate killers.
	I'm an M-O-N-A-R-K. Okay.
	Did you ever meet another guy like yourself?
	Did I what?
	You know, other soldiers that you were working with.
	Did you ever come across before or after you were in all these operations?
	Were you working with others and have you talked to them about being part of MPI Ultra and stuff?
	Yeah, I know one right now.
	Force Recon sniper.
	All right.
	I'm talking to him and...
	They did the same shit.
	They do this to a lot of military people.
	Right.
	There's a lot of regular military people that are regular Army and Marines that are Delta Force Force Recon and SEAL, and they don't know it because they'll wipe their memory after the mission.
	You got PSYOPs units on every military base.
	They do this shit to a lot.
	See, it used to be you had to take a kid when they were five years old and rape, molest, and torture them to be like me.
	But now, they're much better at it.
	Sure.
	But this particular individual I'm talking about, they probably did it to him from age five, and he didn't know that.
	I run into people all the time, like, talking with Lauren Fitton.
	You know Lauren Fitton?
	Yes.
	I was talking to her.
	I said, I hate to break it to you, Lauren.
	You're a victim, too.
	Well, she's told me that she does believe that she is a super soldier victim, you know, mind control victim.
	That's part of her interest in pursuing all this.
	Yeah, they use women.
	I mean, they don't use as many, but they use women.
	I mean, I was in New York City in November of 2007 with a real person they made the Born Identity series about.
	It's a woman, not a man.
	And we had a history together.
	And they wiped her memory, and I'm telling her to get it back.
	But, you know, they got her to turn on me.
	You know, so I had to leave.
	Okay, so how do they send a signal to get someone to turn on you?
	What do you think they're using?
	They take them out and they program them.
	You see, when you're a mind control victim, you have people that are keepers, people that keep you around.
	And then you have handlers, people that handle you.
	Right.
	You know, and then you have programmers.
	And I'm sure there's other things that I don't know about.
	They always have you where they need you.
	And in my case, for, you know, to save the world from World War III, which actually happened a bunch of times, and we'll give God the credit.
	You know, my wife was my main keeper.
	My business partner was my main handler.
	All right.
	But a handler and a programmer can be the same person at times.
	Alright.
	What about this idea of electronic targeting and electronic sending you a signal and could you be triggered by electronics?
	Yes.
	They could do it with a computer sound and I got to the point where I'd wake up in the middle of the night and I'd hear these computer tones.
	That was what they were doing.
	Or they could have hypnotic equipment with a series of lights and say some codes Operational names and get inside your head.
	I don't remember how many times I'd be sitting there watching TV at 9 o'clock at night and then look up at the clock and it's either 11 o'clock, 1 o'clock or 2 o'clock in the morning.
	And I'd have missing time.
	They also have equipment where they can figure out what frequency your brain thinks on.
	And they can figure out that frequency and interact with your thoughts.
	Now there's a whole bunch of people in this country That claim to be victims of electronic harassment.
	Right.
	And they had done that on me for probably about two months.
	And you start hearing these voices in your head, talking to you.
	Well, who's, did they use your religious structure against you?
	You hear this voice, well, who the hell is this?
	Oh, this is God, this is Jesus, and all that kind of stuff.
	Right.
	And I just kept praying to God, remove this from my mind, change my brain frequency, something's going on.
	And it did.
	And it doesn't work anymore.
	And we'll give God the credit.
	Alright.
	But don't have a whole army of people around you when they're doing this to make you think it's real.
	Okay, now you said you tried to help this woman who you think the born identity was based on.
	You tried to help her and she turned against you.
	Is she still alive?
	They programmed her to turn against me.
	Okay, but is she still alive?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I cut off contact with her, so she started accusing me of a whole bunch of things that weren't through, so I left, man.
	Okay.
	And what did you do?
	She started accusing me of being one of her abusers, which was not the case.
	Right.
	Okay, so how did you try to deprogram her?
	What was your method?
	Help her talk, basically talk.
	I can sit down with the victim and find out real quick.
	I can do it quicker than a psychiatrist or psychologist because I've lived it.
	Right.
	I mean, one year into my recovery, about 2001, probably later 2001, I was talking to the top psychiatrists and psychologists and deprogrammers in the nation.
	And they all told me, this is like 15 years ago, you have the most recovered, repressed memory of any survivor they've ever met.
	Kind of way beyond that now.
	So, and they have a program in you.
	And Sue Ford had this black lady victim call me up.
	I went through a four-day period, you know, shortly after remembering the military stuff, my mind was flooded with all these different ways to kill yourself.
	Just one thought after another, and I'm praying to God, get rid of this.
	And it went on for four days.
	At the end of the four days, this woman calls me up that Sue Ford had her call me and says, you're going to go through the suicide program real soon.
	When that happens, don't kill yourself.
	Call somebody.
	Do something.
	Call me.
	And I said, well, I just went through it.
	And so everybody that's a victim, they program in a suicide program.
	So if you start to remember, you kill yourself.
	And they also program in a maintenance program.
	And the maintenance program, you know, a lot of it's color-based.
	It might be the road signs near your house.
	It might be the businesses near your house.
	But everybody who's a mind control victim, you know, they have a lot of people around them to maintain this.
	And this is the biggest secret that the government does not want out.
	I have been told by people with high clearances, there are approximately 33 million people in this country who are mind control victims.
	So there's people listening to this right now who are victims and don't know it.
	Usually the ones I remember are women, very few men, because of the way they do it differently with men.
	Okay.
	So, you know, but what about Mars?
	Do you remember anything about Mars?
	I've been told I've been in some of those anti-gravity devices, but I don't know.
	I don't know if I've been there.
	You know, there's, if you look on the internet, you look up life on Mars.
	There's life up there.
	It's an ancient civilization that was destroyed.
	And I had Area 51 scientists tell me that.
	Okay, when did they tell you that?
	In 03, they took me there.
	This is fucking horrendous.
	In 03, they took me there.
	Okay, so I'm down.
	Two Air Force Guards take me down to sub-level 1.1.
	Poor scientists.
	And these scientists were nuts.
	They had crazy eyes, pedophile eyes, mass murder, rapist eyes.
	And one guy was white as snow and I looked at him and I said, how long you been down in this facility?
	He says, I haven't left this facility for 17 years.
	As far as you can see, it's a mile round, mile diameter, round substructure.
	Our infant baby girls, the 15 year old girls.
	And the grays are wearing You know, they're about four to four and a half feet tall.
	They got respirators on.
	They got rubber gloves, lab coats, boots, a lot of military personnel, a lot of scientists.
	I mean, it was a beehive.
	And I look at the graze.
	I go, what the fuck is that?
	Oh, we reverse engineered those from the Roswell crash.
	And we can make the graze more efficient, but we cannot Reduplicate the anti-gravity devices.
	I go, where did they come from?
	Oh, it's pre-flood man technology, pre-world man technology.
	I go, what pre-world?
	They go, well, Mars was a man-inhabited planet, blew itself up in nuclear war.
	They said the asteroid belt beyond Mars was a man-inhabited planet, and it blew itself up in pieces in nuclear war.
	Now, how do you blow a planet up in pieces?
	We could do it for this one.
	If you had a continuous stream of ICBMs impacting at one point on the globe, the world would blow up in pieces.
	I don't know how many in a row you'd have to get, but the planet would destroy itself.
	And I said, what am I doing here?
	They go, we need more blood.
	I go, what do you mean we need more blood?
	Well, we want you to have sex with as many of these clones while you're here as you can.
	I said, do you want me to have sex with these little girls?
	And the lead scientist has got curly, reddish-blonde hair, clipboard computer.
	And he shoves me in the shoulder and says, no, no, no.
	These aren't girls.
	These are clones.
	God didn't make it.
	We did.
	And I said, do other people come down here and have sex with these clones?
	And they go, oh, yeah, all the time.
	I said, do you have sex with these clones?
	Oh, yeah, every day.
	They're trained.
	They're good at it.
	So I said, as far as you're concerned, they're just blow-up dolls with more features.
	They go, well, yeah.
	And they didn't know what kind of danger they were in by bringing me down there.
	And I said, so, I don't have a problem with that right now.
	Show me and tell me more.
	So, they're all giddy.
	They want to show off their creation.
	So they said, oh, well, this is a totally green substructure.
	We take the excrement from the clones and we use it to make Fertilizer in our hydropodic gardens.
	I said, okay, what do you do with the excrement of the graves?
	Oh, those are biological, blocking biological weapons.
	We use that to make biological weapons.
	So they take me down to sublevel 21.1.
	As far as you can see are cages, which in any mutations in them.
	And they can do it.
	It's not easy for them, but they can do it.
	Half animal, half person, half You know, insect, animal, and person combination.
	All different things.
	And there's a female who looked like she was a cross between a lion and a girl.
	And they have intellect because they're half-union.
	And they can talk.
	And she reaches her arm out and says, help me, help me, help me.
	And I go over and they said, I wouldn't do that if I were you.
	And I got close enough.
	To where she could almost reach me, and she reaches out, actually she could've, I duck, and tries to, roars like a lion and tries to tear my head off.
	And I go, what the fuck is going on here?
	And they says, uh, we're carrying on an experiment.
	I said, for what purpose?
	To gather data.
	I said, well, what happens when, I said, for what purpose?
	They said, to gather data.
	I said, well, then what happens when you got enough data?
	They go, oh, the experiment ends.
	I go, what do you mean it ends?
	Well, it ends.
	I said, oh, you turn this whole place into fertilizer.
	They go, well, yeah.
	I said, damn, this will take forever.
	This place is full.
	They said, oh, no, no, no.
	We're very efficient.
	We gas this whole substructure at the same time.
	And I looked at them and I said, I don't have a problem with that right now.
	Show me and tell me more.
	So they take me to sub-level 5.1.
	We come out of the elevators into the computer iris.
	It was an oval computer room.
	Banks behind me and consoles, computer consoles with windows about two-thirds of it.
	We're in the center of a mile diameter.
	A half mile in every direction are beds.
	Places full.
	They're coming in, they're going out.
	On each bed was a 12-15 year old who's pregnant.
	It's hooked to life support and a fetus in a jar above the life support unit hooked to life support.
	And I go, what the fuck is this?
	Oh, well this is a gray production subfloor.
	I go, what do you mean?
	Oh, well this is where we make the grays.
	I go, well, how do you make them?
	They go, well, we take, and these are 15-year-old girls.
	And I said, well, how many, I said, how do you make them?
	And they said, well, we took, at three months gestation, We take a tube and hook it to the brain of the fetus, and we pump in radioactive material called tutonium, which I verified exists after I remembered it, heavy metals, diseases, and viruses, and DNA from other animals and insects.
	Because if these things want to download information from one to another, the graves just go up and touch foreheads like an ant.
	And at six months gestation, And the heavy metals attach to the genes and the proteins at a nanotechnology level and they're making biological circumference.
	They're walking biological computers.
	That's why they're great.
	And at six months gestation, they have to cut it out at what they call a sectionomy.
	Because if they didn't cut it out at six months gestation, it would try to eat its way out of the host and both the host and it would die.
	We walk out the door.
	I said, hey, wait a minute, guys.
	I said, didn't you guys say that you gassed the whole floor at the same time?
	I said, where are the arming switches?
	And these two scientists, they put a key in there, turn it about three feet apart, and there's 21 red plastic shield over a metal toggle switch.
	And the guy lifts up the toggle shield on 21.1.
	The thing's armed, and he's maniacally laughing like he's going to hit the switch and gas the whole floor.
	And then he closes it, they take the keys, they put them in your pocket.
	We walk a half mile away through all these beds, and they're coming in and they're going out.
	And these girls are turning off shades of green and blue.
	This shit is killing them while they're incubating this shit.
	And that's why they're hooked to life support.
	All right, I appreciate the story, but what I want to know is, why did they let you in there, and what was the purpose of your being there?
	Well, we'll get to that.
	All right.
	Okay, so we go back to the nursery and before we go in there, there's three sets of doors.
	We had to put in hot wax earplugs and then elaborate hearing protection over that.
	We go through three sets of doors and all the grays come in are male and they castrate it with a red hot knife, put a diaper on it, And stick a bottle in its mouth, and they got like three rows of sharp teeth, something like you'd see from the undersea world creatures.
	And the screech that these things make would have burst your eardrums.
	That's why we had to wear the double ear protection.
	And we get outside, and there's red liquid in the bottle that they stick in its mouth instead of milk.
	And we get outside, take off the hearing thing, and I said, what the fuck was that?
	Oh, that's the nursery.
	And the scientist, the same crazy athlete scientist, shows me.
	He said, you should be really honored to be here.
	I said, why should I be honored to be here?
	He said, because you're the top shadow warrior the country's ever produced.
	Your DNA is some of the more perfect DNA on the planet.
	We've perfected your DNA. All these grays are clones of you.
	And I looked at the guy and I said, I don't have a problem with that right now.
	Show me and tell me more.
	Now, what's special about me?
	About seven, eight years ago, a brother of mine was in a car wreck, almost got killed, and they operated on him.
	And when he came to, every doctor in the hospital were in the hospital room.
	And they say, who are you and what do you do?
	Because what do you mean?
	And he told them his name, what he did for a living, and they said, He said, why?
	He said, because there's only two people in the world that got blood work like yours.
	And the other guy's name is Lance Armstrong.
	My blood work is similar.
	And it doesn't make me a better person than anyone else.
	You know, I just, something I was given, I was born with.
	And that's why they chose me.
	Plus, you know, these guys are Satanists.
	And they knew God protected me on all these missions.
	So the Satanists are always trying to give the finger to God.
	It's okay, well, let's use somebody God protecting and we'll create these monsters with it.
	This is how they think.
	So, on the side wall is written above a 4x8 door, Chuckie's playpen from hell.
	And I go, what's that?
	Oh, that's the toddler section.
	And so, there's a 3x3 safety glass window in it, and they've got toddler one of these grays running around.
	They had a little monkey bar off to the left where a bunch of them are playing monkey bars.
	They're not wearing diapers, crapping all over the floor, and...
	Over in the far corner was the remains of one of the hosts, and they were eating it.
	And I go, what's that over in the corner?
	Oh, that's a host, leftover host.
	That's their food.
	I go, what do you do with the other host once you've incubated the grave?
	Oh, we grind it up and turn it into a thing we call gruel and we feed it to them.
	That's what the graves eat.
	And there was a camera on the other side of the wall doing a 180.
	I said, hey, I haven't seen myself on camera for quite a while.
	I said, can you, with your clipboard computer, make that camera focus on the window?
	They go, yeah.
	So it's focused on me.
	I'm looking at myself on camera.
	I said, hey, you look pretty damn good.
	I haven't seen myself on picture for a while.
	Oh, yeah, you look good.
	And I look in the window.
	I said, I thought you said these things were asexual.
	They're all castrated.
	They go, yeah, they are.
	So I see a little penis on one in there.
	So the four scientists are crowded in the window.
	And looking in, I said, no, no, no, it's over there.
	You've got to open the door.
	So they put the key in it and opened it.
	There's no key passage on the inside.
	And when they opened the door, there's a six-foot, semicircular, stainless pad, which is electrified to keep them off.
	These scientists had boots above their knees.
	Because if one of these things was to claw you or bite you, you'd die a more painful, quicker death than being bit by Komodo Dragon.
	So the light's going off, the siren's going, and they're standing there.
	So I shoved all four scientists in the door, slammed the door shut, and took out both Air Force cars.
	And then they're banging on the windows, please, please, please, let us out.
	I said, I'll let out the other guy with the other set of keys.
	They opened the door.
	I floored the other three and pulled him out.
	I said, give me the keys.
	He gave me the keys.
	I floored him, picked him up, opened the door, was throwing them back in.
	He said, I thought you said you were going to let me out.
	I said, I did.
	But I didn't say, well, I'm going to put you back in.
	I said, you don't have to worry about a thing.
	God didn't create these.
	You did.
	I said, have fun having lunch with my baby brothers.
	I took off running.
	Slam the door and snapped the key off.
	And I ran a half mile away, hit the master alarm, got on the loudspeaker, and said there's been a horrible accident in sub-level 21.1.
	Send everybody.
	Well, they sent down two Air Force guards, 21 scientists, and what they called the Nephilim, you know, the football-shaped headwinds.
	Have you ever done a show on those?
	Well, yes.
	You're talking about kind of Anunnaki.
	I don't know.
	The ones that were like reported in Israel in 2002 or 2003 was about seven feet tall.
	But one of them came and their skin was green as gray and it was big and muscly and it didn't lighten me.
	And I said what happened?
	I said all the scientists locked themselves and checked his playpen from hell and they got the keys.
	And so they took control of the camera and they go oh my god you got two of them down on the floor Gray's biting on them, because if you breathe their air, it can make you sick.
	And another guy's on his knees, another guy's banging on the window, they go, oh my god!
	I said send me big muscly gray with a set of keys, tell them to run, walk fast, don't run, we had enough fuck ups.
	So while it was taken off, I pointed my, I pulled both 41s and I'm aiming in a B formation, I'm looking down the middle, because we were trained to shoot.
	Looking down the middle so we could hit targets on our periphery, and I'm pumping rounds into the back of the football head, and I told the guards to drop their weapons and ammo, and then when they were gone, then let's just say all 21 scientists expired.
	Alright, now how do you know that this...
	Wait, wait, wait.
	How do you know this isn't a screen...
	what we call a screen memory?
	You know what a screen memory is?
	Because I was such an efficient military machine, they didn't do it.
	And because they got Lieutenant Colonel Greg Rinchick to come get me out.
	And when I visited him in 08, he had one of the 187 CIA super laptops.
	He had a lot of stuff on there.
	And when he showed me the pictures of the graves, and a lot of others, that's when my memory came back.
	And he admitted to me that he was the one that talked me out.
	And they then typo'd me, I went out.
	What year was this?
	They tried to kill me, God protect me, I don't know.
	Okay, but wait, when you went to Area 51 and this thing took place that you're talking about, what year was that?
	That was December of 2003.
	2003.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And why do you think that there were no repercussions against you for doing all that?
	They might have tried to kill me.
	Like I said, God protected me all the time.
	They might have tried to kill me hundreds of times over the years.
	And that's an understatement.
	Uh-huh.
	You know, whenever they had an emergency mission where they set me on, it never failed.
	And there's a lot of them that should have failed.
	And we'll give God the credit.
	I'm not going to take credit for it.
	All right.
	One more question.
	And actually, you know, we've been talking for a while, so we've got to kind of close the show down pretty soon.
	But I want to ask you, have you ever written any of this into a book?
	No.
	You think they'd let me publish it?
	Well, you can self-publish.
	No, I haven't taken the time.
	I've got PTSD like you couldn't believe.
	I mean, this is hard for me to do.
	All right.
	So to sit down and write a book, I don't know if you...
	Ask people with PTSD how hard something that would be to do.
	Well, you know, you can always use a recorder and just talk into it and then ask somebody else to type it out for you.
	Well, wherever I've lived, they've kept me in a state of war.
	Ripping me off all the time.
	I mean, I want to say a little bit about my children.
	I am not going to quit until I get my retirement benefits, President Reagan's classified laws, and we can do another show on this, the 28th Classified Amendment to the Constitution.
	They have used my children for sex toys.
	All kinds of horrible shit.
	And when I was waking up And I realized my children were mind-control victims before I was.
	And I was asking Sue Ford about that.
	And they did to my children a gross mass ceremony.
	Have you ever heard of a gross mass ceremony before?
	Well, not under those terms.
	A gross mass ceremony is a giant fucking raping of the victims of honor.
	And then they make the victims.
	It goes on for hours and hours and hours.
	This was the sacanic kickoff event of 2000.
	All the world leaders were there.
	The Dalai Lama was in LA. They were all fucking there.
	And then they make the victims of honor eat shit and drink pips.
	I came home from work that night on a Friday night and I had three beers and I passed out at 9 o'clock.
	Three beers are not going to make me pass out.
	Well, I was given a Mickey, probably from my ex-wife.
	And when I got up in the morning, my oldest son was fine, but my three daughters and my two-year-old son were all violently sick, and all their breath smelled like human shit.
	I didn't find out until a week later that they had done it.
	And this is the kind of shit that they've done to my children all their lives.
	This is what they do to mind-controlled victims.
	Because child molestation, child rape, eating shit and drinking piss is a big part of devil worship.
	So if anybody's listening to this and they think they want to be cute and go play with devil worship, well start eating shit now and you can get a head start on it.
	This is what they've done to my children and me all my life.
	If I'm fed up, they can come take my ass out again.
	They've stolen everything of mine.
	They've ripped me off for millions of dollars worth of wealth.
	Everything I own, damn near everything I own has been stolen.
	I don't even have pictures of my children anymore because everything got stolen when I got put in jail on trumpet flies and bullshit.
	Alright.
	So, at this point, we're going to have to close this down.
	There are a lot of people, you know, that have been listening to your story, and you say that this story, to some degree, was put out there over the internet on a radio show before, and can you say what show it was again?
	Well, I had a radio show.
	I've done numerous radio shows over the years, but I had a radio show In 2008 called Mind Controlled America with Eugene M. Colson.
	All right.
	But, you know, it was set up.
	It was a set up.
	Most of my guests were set up.
	And most of the people that talk about this type thing, Carrie, are involved in the program.
	Most of the radio show guys...
	I'm sorry?
	Yeah, I hear that that's your point of view.
	I mean, you know, I don't know.
	I've had history with some of these people.
	I know they are.
	I've used reverse speech.
	Tell all your listeners, get reverse speech.
	Learn how to use it.
	And then you can really start finding some stuff.
	Alright, I've done a show with the guys who created the reverse speech, you know, Oates and the other guy.
	So I have that on my YouTube channel if you want to listen.
	It is interesting.
	There's a lot to it.
	So I appreciate that.
	You know, I really appreciate you coming on the show and sharing all of this with us.
	You know, they may try to kill me for being on this show.
	They may try to do all kinds of shit to me.
	That's possible.
	But bring it on.
	All right.
	I mean, they've done it in the past.
	Okay.
	So I'm at risk right now.
	I hear you.
	All right.
	Well, I'm just looking through the chat really quickly to see if there's any questions here from the people that listen.
	Okay.
	And, you know that saying that you kind of repeated a couple times was, I don't have a problem with that.
	Tell me more.
	Something like that.
	Right.
	Where did you learn that sort of saying?
	Did someone teach you that saying?
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	I don't know.
	It's just something that popped out of my head right now.
	It might have been something they used in mind control.
	I don't know.
	I don't remember.
	I don't remember everything.
	Right.
	Like the other day, I was talking with a It's a good one to listen to, sure.
	I'm sorry?
	Yes.
	Yeah, you were on that show as well?
	Yes.
	Okay, yeah, I know Miles.
	How long ago was...
	He said to say hi.
	All right, how long ago...
	So did Lauren Fittance wants to hear from you again.
	Okay, yeah, she's in touch with me.
	Have you ever listened to Kay Griggs?
	Someone wants to know?
	I don't know who that is.
	I've been out of circulation for six years, so...
	Right.
	You know.
	When did you get out?
	Earlier this year.
	Alright.
	Okay, well, thank you very much.
	There is a link for everyone.
	What I'd like you to do is write some of your story onto your GoFundMe because otherwise a lot of people going there might not know, you know, kind of what you're trying to achieve by asking for money.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Okay.
	So that would help your cause.
	And people can understand if they listen to this show, the more background.
	And there is a way on GoFundMe to actually embed a video, so you're welcome to embed this video on that site so that people can listen and hear your story.
	All right.
	Do you want to do any more?
	Because there's a lot more that I know that I've been involved in.
	Well, I appreciate that, but we have a limit of two hours per show just because people have short attention.
	No, I'm talking about other shows.
	Oh, I see.
	Well, it's very possible.
	Yeah, we can have you back in the future.
	We can talk about Jonestown, Waco, Ruby Ridge.
	I'd like to hear more about that.
	Alright?
	Alright.
	So thank you so much and thanks everyone for listening today.
	Have a good weekend and we'll have him back in the future, okay?
	Alright, bye.
	Alright, you take care.
	Okay, so thanks everyone again for listening and you know, this is Really an investigation.
	We don't know what is the background behind all of this, and we don't know all of this story.
	Obviously, he is doing his best.
	Colson is doing his best to relay as much as he remembers, but keep in mind that all the information is not out there and not known, so there's a lot more sort of investigation that has to be done when you do a show like this, and Project Camelot is all about investigating the truth.
	So, thanks again for listening and for watching.
	As I said, I just got back from interviewing Mark Richards for the seventh time, and I'll be releasing that in the very near future.
	So, stay tuned to Project Camelot, and please do watch my previous videos.
	There are, wow, something like 600 videos at this point to catch up on if you're new to my stuff.

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