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May 24, 2017 - Project Camelot
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TONY GOSLING RE BILDERBERG 2017
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So, asking you to introduce yourself briefly, Tony, and then we'll go straight to the Bilderberg Report and, of course, over to Manchester as well.
So, sorry for that.
I didn't realize we were...
That's fine.
Yeah, so go right ahead.
So yeah, thanks Kerry.
I've started in really about late 1980s, early 90s at the BBC in London working on Greater London Radio.
A lot of it was the worst stuff we were working on was IRA terror attacks in London.
And for example, the stock exchange bomb, this sort of thing.
So I got really interested in pulling apart these terror attacks.
One of the things that was fascinating at the time during the Troubles was the way that the security service, MI5, seemed to actually not intervene to stop these attacks.
They seemed to know they were going to happen.
They were watching on CCTV, for example, the big bomb at Canary Wharf.
The evidence was that the IRA was so confident that MI5 would let them do these attacks that they were even waving at the CCTV cameras as they left the bomb at Canary Wharf.
So, you know, for us insiders and talking on Fleet Street, Well, it wasn't actually on Fleet Street, but journalists talking amongst themselves.
We had a lot of chats in the pub after work about, that was a bit strange today.
So that was, I suppose, my initiation into the whole reporting on terrorism business.
Then I was doing land rights activism.
That's to do with squatting big landowners, bad landowners' land, having quite a lot of fun doing that.
And then got back into journalism again in the noughties, around the mid-noughties, doing work for people like Russia Today and also doing my own programme, a weekly politics show, which I do every week in Bristol.
And that's on a Friday, 5pm till 7pm UK time on Bristol Community FM. And you can find that online at thisweek.org.uk.
But we left, in a way, we left it deliberately for the Americans to try and confirm the Bilderberg Conference this year, because back in January, a group of us discovered that the conference looked like it was going to be in Chantilly this year.
With the hotel there that the Bilderbergers regularly use, the Westfields Marriott Hotel, being blocked, booked between the 31st of May and the 4th of June.
And so we had an unofficial event.
Stab at it.
And still, like literally within only two weeks to go before the Bilderberg Conference, nobody in the United States had managed to confirm that this was indeed the venue, in other words to get an official confirmation from police or from the hotel or from the Bilderbergers themselves, etc., from a good source.
And so we did that ourselves last week, again, and it certainly is confirmed to be taking place, the conference itself, 1st to the 4th of June.
It really all starts on the 31st of May, though, because there's a whole day spent cleaning these hotels out, searching every little nook and cranny for some little reporter hiding in there, some sweeping the whole place for bugs.
And so the whole hotel has to be swept from top to bottom, literally from the top brick on the top chimney part of the hotel.
They go right the way through to make sure there's absolutely no way that anybody can listen in.
Because the Bilderbergers are absolutely paranoid about anybody knowing what they're up to.
So they want to have conversations, one-to-one conversations, that is to say promises, possibly even veiled threats with people who are there that cannot be proved in the future.
So that's why they all come together.
I mean, some people say that the Bilderberg is a thing where they could do it on Skype.
Absolutely nonsense.
They have to be face to face to schmooze people.
I think there's quite a good possibility that Trump may be there at this time because he is obviously not quite on the program for the globalists.
So he's kicking back, along with Nigel Farage and people like that, against the whole transatlantic globalist program.
Even though a lot of people say he's been caving in, it looks as if he's the sort of person that the Bilderbergers would actually like to schmooze.
Introduce him to some princes, kings and queens, and ask him, Why Donald?
Why are you not on the program?
What's wrong?
Okay, well, yeah, right-o.
But let me say that it is very interesting at this point dealing with this situation because we actually have Trump traveling as of today, and this is what we're coming up on the 25th tomorrow of May.
So the idea has to be that he returns in time, obviously, to get over there.
The thing is to watch.
What is it all the time during the conference?
Anybody interesting, keep a very close eye on where are they?
I mean, what happened, for example, with Hillary Clinton back in, gosh, what year was it now?
was it 2007, I think it was, where she really wanted to have the Democratic nomination, but she was pipped at the post by Barack Obama, and she was invited into Chantilly to the Bilderberg Conference, one of the last ones in the United States, to be told by the one of the last ones in the United States, to be told by the Bilderbergers, no, your chance It's Barack Obama this time.
And so you'll find that if an important, interesting person, head of state or whatever, happens to be either completely off the radar for that weekend or else nearby to the conference.
It's an indication that they've either been smuggled in, because of course the Chantilly venue is completely sealed off from the outside world, unlike quite a lot of the other venues, like Dresden last year.
I mean, the Bilderbergers were just wandering out into the city.
It was interesting to have a chance to eyeball them, and more importantly, film them and have a chat with them.
And it was really enlightening last year, talking to James A. Johnson, who's the Goldman Sachs guy that raised the money for Clinton's campaign, a lot of it, and Barack Obama's campaign too, because he was just a really nice guy.
He wasn't the sort of bloke you want to have a chat with on a park bench or whatever.
Maybe he does have meetings on park benches.
I'm not sure.
He was, I mentioned the word Brexit to him, and it was like I said something terrible.
He looked at me, daggers, and it was the word he didn't want to hear.
It was a bit like mentioning Diana in the presence of Prince Charles.
If you can imagine how Prince Charles would react to him.
So that was the reaction I got from them.
And it's great to be able to actually meet these Bilderbergers face to face.
They love to be anonymous.
They love the fact that they can walk down the street.
Nobody even knows who they are, although they own most of the money in the Western world.
So I had a chance to chat to James A. Johnson and to Jacob Wallenberg, who really is the most powerful, richest man, banker of Sweden.
And his family's roots go right back to the Second World War, where his family was laundering Nazi money, was making sure that Sweden was a good place for the Nazis to operate during the war, even though they were supposed to be neutral.
So, you know, you can see that these are the people, these are long-term families that have been very powerful, but they can walk down the street and no one even knows who they are.
Absolutely.
What I want to ask you is, is there a way to get the list of who will attend and whether or not it will be interesting to know if Hillary will attend as well this year?
Normally not before.
They might release the list beforehand.
This is really down to the Bilderbergers themselves to release the list.
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
The place, the go-to place, though, I think, is as a Bilderberg intelligence agency.
There is one on the Black Sea near, I think is it called Abkhazia?
It's this little tiny little country in the Caucasus, which is, I think, unofficially part of Georgia, But anyway, on the Black Sea coast, there's a guy called Manfred Petrisch, and he runs something called the All Smoke and Mirrors blog.
It's all in German, but you can get it obviously easily translated.
It's called Alice Schauer and Rausch.
And he's already been digging out, because he's been phoning and contacting, through his contacts around the world, people who know who may be going.
And so he's been able to phone people up and literally check.
Do you think it is such and such going?
Yeah, I think he's going.
He's told me he's going.
So he's actually been doing some intelligence already on finding out who's going to the conference before the Bilderbergers have even released the list.
So there's now this little army, a tiny army of intelligence agents around the world who are working for the people for free and digging out who those people are.
But it's really down to the Bilderbergers themselves to release a list at some point.
And I imagine that's what they'll do.
Right.
So as far as the agenda, do you have any ideas about what the agenda is like this year?
I can't really second-guess that, I'm afraid, but quite clearly there's going to be some interest in the tech and IT because this is becoming one of the specialisms with Google DeepMind and Palantir Technologies that are really these kind of massive data mining companies that are starting to work more and more closely with governments and Doing profiling,
doing the sorts of work that governments supposedly need to predict the future trends, this kind of thing.
So this is the way this is pitched anyway.
But Google DeepMind and Palantir Technologies are effectively, I think they are a way of interfacing the data that's been collected by people like Facebook, And WhatsApp, of course Facebook bought WhatsApp, and the profiling people that way, because that data can very easily be turned into social networks, this kind of thing, and this information could be useful for all sorts of reasons to governments.
It's also useful for some companies to buy that information to do targeted advertising.
But there's a deeper reason why they might want to use it, and that is to control their populations in the future.
I mean, this is what the Nazis were doing in the 1930s, collecting vast amounts of information about ethnicity, religion, this kind of thing, about their citizens, people were filling in forms.
They didn't realize that if you were a Jew and you said that you were a Jew and someone had identified you as a Jew, that could mean all sorts of terrible things to come in the future.
And effectively, they're building up similar types of databases on these massive high-tech servers right now.
And so that's one thing that obviously those...
Those aspects of it won't be publicly on the agenda.
I think also another key theme at the Bilderberg conferences is genetics.
They're very much into genetic modification.
For whatever reason, I think it's mainly because...
This is a whole area of technology where people can make a lot of money.
If you can own a genetic strain of something, and if you can introduce some kind of terminated technology to make it very difficult for people to get hold of seeds or whatever, then you can start to control and own everything that, say, a farmer ever grows.
And you can be taking your cut of every single seed that they ever use.
So, you know, these sorts of things, looking for new technologies that can bring in vast amounts of money and control over populations in the future, putting everybody into debt, is bound to be on there.
Also, another thing I would imagine would be on there is Turkey.
After last year's abortive coup attempt, And the very difficult situation they've got in Turkey now, most Turks, certainly ones I've spoken to, just believe it was a CIA, another CIA coup attempt in Turkey last July, that there was an attempt to kill President Erdogan.
There was obviously a lot of people died as well in that coup.
Most of the coups happened in the middle of the night, you know, at three o'clock in the morning.
But this one actually wasn't successful early in the morning, so it dragged out right through the day.
And a lot of people killed in the streets by army units who were loyal to the coup still and hadn't given up on it, even though the coup wasn't going to happen.
So that's another thing that might well be on the agenda there.
Obviously, also Syria and Russia and China is usually on the agenda somewhere as well.
So impossible quite to tell, but that's my best guess I can give.
All right, fair enough.
Last night I had Keshe on my show.
I don't know if you know who he is, the Iranian physicist.
He said some very interesting things geopolitically speaking, and he was talking about Trump's trip that's happening right now, supposedly having to do with North Korea and a bargaining going on between the U.S. and China over getting sort of North Korea in line, etc., So I'm thinking this is going to be on the agenda big time.
And there was also some comments made by Keshe that actually were quite provocative having to do with the fact that North Korea was getting its technology not only from the U.S. and corporations in the U.S., but also from...
In some form or fashion, whether I misunderstood him or not, I didn't get a chance to really delve deep into it under the circumstances.
But he said something about the Vatican having to do with transferring technology to North Korea.
So we have sort of a rogue nation as it's viewed, from the point of view of the U.S. anyway, and certainly Britain, the Allied powers, whatever you want to call it.
And then China pushing back and also giving a lot of at least lip service to the leader of China as calling the shots to which Trump is then marching, which I found hard to believe.
But nonetheless, this is what he was saying.
Just wanted to get your take on any of that.
Well, yes, that's the sort of thing that is quite likely to come up with Bilderberg.
But also, look, you know, the whole thing with North Korea, it's just a way to dig at President Xi, isn't it, in China?
It's, you know, this is saying, well, hey, you know, you've got...
This is strategically very important for the Chinese, but of course they're a bit of a basket-case nation.
I think it's fair to say they are.
They have a very authoritarian regime.
You wouldn't be able to be criticising them like we're doing now over in North Korea.
It's just not possible.
But that doesn't mean to say that the There needs to be a confrontation.
Just let them get on with it.
What's happened is Trump has forced the confrontation and all the sorts of things that the North Koreans are doing, testing missiles, of course, you know, the U.S. does all the time and the Chinese do it all the time and no one really bats an eyelid.
So this is really just talking.
I mean, I even saw, by the way, the WannaCry attack on the National Health Service here and various other, the ransomware attack a couple of weeks ago.
Channel 4 News, in all seriousness, in this country were blaming the attack on North Korea because they said there was some similarity in one of the lines of the code.
And in the background, they had ballistic missile tests from North Korea going up in the sky.
This is just propaganda, and it's an attempt to pin everything you can on one of the bad guys, whether it's Russia or North Korea.
It doesn't seem to matter.
There's actually no facts to pin these incidents to those particular countries.
But North Korea is just a way of getting at China, and it's an attempt to leverage China and to force them to do what the Americans want.
Of course, the Chinese are not going to do that, and they're very much an independent-minded bunch.
It's still a lot of repression in different parts of China we don't hear a lot about, essentially against the Muslims in central China, for example.
But this is the way of diplomacy.
This is the sort of thing they try and do.
Divide and rule effectively, isn't it?
Absolutely.
Well, along the lines of putting out news that isn't necessarily backed by anything tangible, can we move on to the Manchester situation?
Because we've been just absolutely scouring...
The net in the last day or two, trying to see what's out there, looking at the news reports, etc., etc.
I was actually hearing a news report in California right before I got on the plane announcing the situation in Manchester.
So timing-wise, it was quite interesting just in terms of my own trip.
And, you know, obviously a huge tragedy if what is going on or said to have gone on there actually happened the way they're saying.
It's very suspicious.
So many elements of it.
I don't know how deeply you've dug into it.
Any thoughts on that?
Look, first of all, I'll say the police have, I mean, my experience with the police is they lie.
The police press offices regularly lie.
I mean, they would justify it sometimes and say, well, we want to wrong-foot a criminal so that we have more chance to catch them.
So the idea that the London media and the rest of the world's media will just report what the police are saying as fact, which is what the BBC have been doing, particularly...
Gordon Carrera, who's the BBC security correspondent, most of the rest of them will couch these police statements in terms of alleged, this sort of thing.
But Gordon doesn't.
He just says it's a suicide bomber.
So that's the first thing, is that the question has to be, Was it a suicide bomber?
How did you know so quickly it was a suicide bomber?
We know that it's very feasible to have concealed bombs.
This is a nail bomb, which is characteristic of the fascists, not of Islamic terrorists.
And if it's a concealed device, the question then comes, Who's planted the concealed device in the foyer of the Manchester Arena?
And the second thing is, if it was actually on the guy that's done it, who's, sorry, forgotten his name already, but the guy they've said has done it, if it was on him, did he know it was a bomb?
So there's all sorts of questions.
He's flown in, by the way, just two days before the attack.
He flew in from Libya.
And the Ron Paul Institute and the Daily Mail have all reported that he was very closely connected with the forces who overthrew Gaddafi in Libya.
So he's effectively a kind of al-Qaeda Libya trainee, probably, possibly even trained and known very well by our own security services, by our own SAS and our own MI6.
So very, very close to those security services.
And I noticed just an hour or so ago on the BBC, they were saying that the police say they believe that he was part of a wider network.
Well, perhaps that wider network is MI6 and MI5.
Yeah, exactly.
And or CIA, you know.
So that's the problem that we have.
So his name, Salman Abadi was his name.
Also, we've heard that people in Manchester have several times have been calling the terrorist hotline saying, this guy is dangerous.
This guy is dangerous.
Can you please do something about him?
and saying that he is actually saying to us that suicide bombing is acceptable under Islam.
And this really worries us.
So they've reported this guy to MI5, to the police, etc.
So they have said, they came up with this very strange comment saying something like, "He may have been in our purview," or something.
I can't remember the exact terms, but anyway, they were saying that they thought they might have known about him, but they were giving a very...
It looks to me as if they knew all about him.
It looks as if they possibly...
First of all, they've been warned by Muslims in Manchester all about this guy, saying, look, you've got to keep a very close eye on him.
And then he was then taken over, or he went of his own accord, over to Libya and was potentially trained to carry out terrorism.
Attacks, including suicide bombings, by our own sponsored people over in Libya.
Because, of course, Britain was very much involved, MI6, back even in the 1990s with the Libyan Fighting Group, who was sponsored and paid with British taxpayers' money to train these Islamic fanatics to overthrow Gaddafi.
And this guy, Salman Abadi, was part of that group.
Certainly within the last five or six years, the same people who overthrew Gaddafi.
Right.
Well, I'm just seeing that the Telegraph is actually reporting that he also might have been trained in Syria, which they're saying he became so-called radicalized in Syria.
Not sure what that really means.
That's an interesting...
Well, the question is, Kerry, the question is who trained him?
And you might not find it is now British tax powers, money, special forces that did the training.
Yes.
Well, this is, you know, in my view, this is what we call a Manchurian candidate again.
And the trouble is that the thing that's perplexing me, I don't know if it's bothering you or what, but is how quickly they identified him as the bomber, the so-called bomber.
They found his identification at the scene.
I think this is ludicrous.
I mean, you know, there is no way to really tell if it's a suicide bombing or not.
You know, this is the problem.
The information is that what we heard, of course, you're going to hear so many different things, and a lot of these things are contradictory.
The information we heard is that he had an identification on him, which made it very convenient.
There's still no reason to assume, you know, you're talking about a stadium with hundreds of thousands of people or whatever.
Why him?
You know, in other words, why so quickly can they zero in on this is the guy?
And then, of course, he dies very conveniently.
So then, you know, this has to happen every single time.
They can never interview these people.
It seems the press is never going to get to someone like this to actually get them to speak.
So this is a huge problem.
Let's say something about the whole thing of suicide bombings, okay?
Back in the 1980s, there was a big attack over in Iran by a couple of Hezbollah suicide bombers against an American base which killed something like 80 people.
It led to the United States pulling out, I think it was actually in Lebanon, pulling out completely of the country.
That was a hard target.
And that was a suicide bomber that did that.
I think possibly two suicide bombers that did that attack.
Now, Manchester Arena is not a hard target.
A battleship is a hard target.
You know, the Japanese kamikaze planes would crash a battleship full of explosives.
That was a suicide bombing.
But there is absolutely no need, whatever, to use a suicide bomber against a soft target like the Manchester Arena.
Let's be really clear about this.
If I wanted to, I could take my bomb and leave it on the floor in Manchester Arena, walk out and press my button and blow the bomb and the people around it to Kingdom Come without having to risk my life at all.
So people need to be really clear about this.
There is absolutely no point and no need to use suicide bombings against these sorts of soft I did an article years ago about this,
about the suicide bombings over in Iraq And the entire Shia insurgency in Iraq back in 2004 started when the al-Sadr newspaper was closed down in 2004 by Bremer and the occupation forces.
And that happened because they printed a newspaper where they said the suicide bombing last week, I think it was a weekly paper, but anyway, the suicide bombing last week wasn't a suicide bombing.
This is something we've been told all around the world.
It was a big suicide bombing Baghdad of some sort.
And he said all the eyewitnesses we've spoken to say it was a helicopter firing a missile.
And it wasn't a suicide bombing.
And that was on the front page of the newspaper.
The next day, Brenner closed the paper down.
The day after, the Shia insurgency in Iraq started.
So that's how important this whole business is.
Is it really a suicide bomber or isn't it?
And on Monday, we had within eight hours of the attack, the police saying it's a suicide bombing.
There's absolutely no way they could possibly know that in so short a time.
But also the timing of the attack.
About ten days before the general election here really is the killer, I think.
And that's why this interview I did on Press TV last night I think is cut off halfway through because I started talking about the Joe Cox murder ten days before the Brexit referendum vote.
And suddenly the feed was cut.
But that's, I think, what we're dealing with here.
It could quite easily be that this is...
I mean, you think about the last...
Most people are the floating voters in the general election.
We'll make their decision within just a few days of the general election.
What's happened with this attack, around about 10 days before the general election, it's a little bit more, I think, is that most of the discussion on TV and radio and in the newspapers about the election, etc., and about who's the best prime minister, will and about who's the best prime minister, will be all about security, strong and safe, which is the Conservatives' agenda.
Strong and stable, is what they've been saying.
So this is all about security.
Now, up until the weekend, there was a complete train crash for the Conservative Party last Thursday, when Theresa May announced various horrendous measures taking people's houses off them for social care, also to take away people's winter fuel allowances, also to take away people's winter fuel allowances, to make a dent in people's pensions, This is a massive, massive vote loser, and it was a complete train crash over the weekend.
On Monday daytime, Theresa May was in Wales to launch another campaign, and it was her attempt to pull back, to reverse, to U-turn some of those disastrous policies that she'd announced last week.
And then on Monday evening, bang, there's this big terrorist attack, and suddenly we're talking about something completely different instead.
So, I mean, for me, that, I think, is something that people should really focus on.
The potential that this terrorist attack has to focus everyone's attention around the country and the press and the media in the run-up to the general election on terror issues, on security issues, the securicrat agenda, the MI5 agenda, the Islamic terror agenda.
And I'm really absolutely gobsmacked police think that they know it was a suicide bombing, I've heard, for example, lots of the eyewitnesses saying that they've heard multiple attacks.
One saying it sounded like shooting.
Several attacks.
There was even a guy, a homeless guy, on the radio today who was saying that there were definitely two explosions or two bangs, he said.
Well, there was actually supposedly a test going on, a test explosion that happened, if I understood it, a few hours during the day or something that people need not worry.
And then there was, I guess you might have seen the announcement, the video going on in the stadium itself, saying after the bomb had exploded, you know, as they call it a bomb, that, you know, nothing to worry about.
Be calm.
Just, you know, there's nothing happening.
Literally, this is what the announcer is saying over the stadium PA system.
So there's so many questions.
Again, this idea that a suicide bomber or anyone who's planning to plant a bomb, first of all, he didn't go inside the stadium at all.
This is what's also interesting.
He never made it inside.
He was on the outside, and I think it was near the ticket box office, as I understand it.
And now they're publishing...
Let me just clarify that.
It was in the lobby of the Manchester Arena and it was the explosion that actually took place that killed the people actually very close to the merchandise department.
And what we're being told is that Abadi, trying to go into the stadium, was told that he couldn't.
There's been a lot of talk about crisis actors as well.
I think you've got to be very careful here because it looks to me as if people have lost loved ones.
If you start talking about crisis actors, you're starting to impinge on the grief of real people and also maybe to belittle what's happened.
I think it seems pretty clear to me there definitely is.
I mean, I know about the 22 casualties, but certainly some serious injuries, casualties, deaths at the Manchester Arena.
I think, you know, we're dealing with a terrorist attack, and that could be a way of trying to steer criticism and researchers away into the long grass.
But the main problem, I think, is that we don't necessarily understand the ways that attacks like this can be used to steer elections.
I mean, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli Prime Minister, he wrote a book back in the 1980s called Terrorism, How the West Can Win.
He actually didn't write the whole book.
He was the editor of it.
But it's a whole look at how terrorism can be used...
To affect the politics of various countries and how it should be tackled by the West.
But of course there's a lot of code in there about how, you know, what effectively I think has happened is the security services are now using terrorism against the ordinary populations here in the West and mainly actually against the media and against the politicians.
So the sort of go-betweens between the public And the future, you know.
So that, I think, is the aim of these sorts of attacks, is to try and hijack the agenda back to the anti-Muslim, effectively the...
The foreign policy agenda, the kind of thing the Bilderbergers are pushing at a much higher level.
So the other thing is it's really important to understand that the Islamic community in Manchester have made it really clear today for years we've been telling the police about this guy.
They've done nothing about it and now look what's happened.
So what's got to happen in the future is MI5 have got to come down to the mosques.
They've got to talk to the people in the mosques and say, hi, here we are.
We're going to have a dialogue with you people.
Because we know that you are the people who can actually prevent attacks like this in the future.
And if MI5 don't do that, then they should all be sacked.
They should all be thrown on the dole and we have to hire a whole bunch of new security people who know how to actually protect our cities.
Well, I appreciate the sentiment of what you're saying.
However, I have to say that, in my view, this is an engineered, you know, we're talking about CIA, we're talking about possibly, as you say, MIFI, MIS. In other words, talking to the mosques.
Behind Abadi, the networks behind him are security services.
We have to make sure that those security services are protecting us and not encouraging people like Abadi, you know, behind the scenes.
They need to be able to a bit more scrutiny, you know, and we need to have a dialogue between ordinary people and the security service.
They can't hide behind this whole thing of national security forever, Kerry.
I understand.
But the problem is that we haven't orchestrated...
I mean, you know, I've interviewed Ole Domogard, who's written books about this subject matter in depth, and, you know, after almost every terror attack we've been having lately.
And I can say this has got all the earmarks.
Again...
This individual, supposedly in one thing he said to have a bank card and another thing, they actually show an ID. I think it was on the Guardian, a picture of the ID. In other words, these individuals who are supposed to be committing dastardly acts, carrying their very convenient identification with them, This just tells you right away that there's something amiss.
Because there's no logic to taking your identification with you, to wanting to be identified, unless you really do want to be identified.
And that just doesn't make sense.
It's a dead guy.
Now, if there is some kind of payback in which somebody is paid and the family gets a certain amount of money, Because he goes down and dies for a cause.
Whether or not this is part of the motivation is something people could talk about.
You know, the trouble is that there are too many questions about even how the crowd reacted during this situation.
It's just...
I think we're just grazing the surface at this time.
It's very early days, so to speak, after the attack.
But already, too many questions.
It was a sort of attack we're thinking about where the security services were actually facilitating behind the scenes, facilitating this.
Then there would almost certainly be people at the Manchester Arena who knew what was going to happen.
So we're talking about possibly security guards, these kinds of people that knew something.
Possibly.
But at the end of the day, we don't know yet.
It's just impossible.
We can speculate a bit.
But at the end of the day, I think we need to just look at the main connection, which is between the guy that's committed this atrocity, and he has been reported by the local people in Manchester to the security services as a danger, because he's saying that he thinks suicide bombing is a good thing to do, and yet our security services have done absolutely nothing.
So they are facilitating, effectively, a terror campaign here in Britain, which, what does it do?
Well, it ends up funneling more money into the MI5 and the security services.
They say, oh, we're going to need more money so we can put more people under surveillance.
This is the police state starting to roll in in Britain.
And unless we do something about MI5 right now and trace and arrest those people who have failed to do what they should have done with this guy once he was reported by the local community, then this sort of thing is just going to continue.
So I would just suggest that is where we need to finish by simply ending this secrecy by MI5.
They've got to go and talk to the Islamic community.
And they've got to make a very close...
They've got to be serious about individuals when the imams in the mosque say, look, you've got to stop this guy.
They've just got to stop.
Stop them right there.
And that's where they need to intervene.
If necessary, jail somebody.
Whatever.
If it means taking somebody who's got that sort of intent off the street.
I'm just noticing that the UK Mirror back in the 24th of March had an article, Britain after Brussels?
ISIS supporters vote UK top target as terrorists warn of attack.
So we've actually had two attacks in Britain.
I don't know what the date of the other one was.
Back in March, yeah.
Back in March.
But you see, this is again...
This is, I think, more scaremongering.
I mean, a lot of what the newspapers print is just nonsense from MI5. They say things like, oh, we've foiled 15 terror plots this year.
Well, no, you haven't because they haven't been to court.
So you're just making up these things.
So if you foil a terror plot, you've got to take somebody to court and you've got to charge them.
They're just making these things up.
And the main scandal in all this, Kerry, is there's no interrogation of these statements by the police and security services at all by the London media.
They just treat what they're saying.
They've got these kind of wide eyes.
They're like rabbits in their headlights.
They just do not ask questions.
Very, very basic, obvious questions.
Like, for example, when ISIS supposedly claimed this attack, they got details completely wrong about what had even happened.
So quite clearly, we're being lied to on a massive scale.
And the other day in Manchester, a load of innocent people were killed.
We've got to stop this, and we've got to take it really seriously.
And the way to do it is to deal with the security service, mainly MI5. Okay, well, yeah.
I understand.
I understand.
It's great to have you here, Tony.
I really appreciate you taking the time.
And I hope that once Bilderberg does get going, that you're going to be able to report back to us.
Are you planning attending?
I'm assuming this.
No, I've been reporting on it.
We've been reporting on it this Friday and next Friday at thisweek.org.uk and if anyone's in Bristol, they can tune in on 93.2 FM between 5 and 7.
Alright, so there you have it.
Thank you very much, Tony.
Take care of yourself and we'll have you back on the show, alright?
Thanks, Kerry.
Thanks a lot.
Alright.
Okay.
Goodbye.
Thank you.
So everyone, thanks very much for watching.
I am here in the UK to conduct a tour of ancient sites with Maria Wheatley, so we're going to be doing that.
We have a special night with, let's see, it's going to be at the Stonehenge, and that will be Partway through the tour, all the information is on my website at projectcamelotportal.com and we are actually selling day tickets.
So those are for a lower price.
It's easier if you drive yourself.
Obviously we don't have to pay for the We have very limited space.
It's a very small kind of exclusive tour, whatever you want to call it.
And so that's one thing I'm doing here.
And then I have the Awaken Aware UK conference happening.
And I have a huge list of speakers.
All the information can be gotten, again, on my website.
And if you go to the events tab on my website, you can click over to either one of those events, find out how to get tickets, etc.
And it's all there.
So that is happening on the 24th and 25th of June.
So that's what's going on.
I am here in Europe at the moment.
If something should come along in Europe, someone wants to see me speak somewhere else in Europe, it's much easier, obviously, to get over somewhere from here, here in England, and I am able to stay for free.
here in my partner's house and so this is this is what makes this possible so anyone who is interested I will be doing some more obviously live shows while I'm here and so stay tuned for the announcements in that regard.
Thanks for watching and have a great day night wherever you are on the planet.
And more of this needs to be investigated, obviously, with regard to the latest terrorist incident, and we'll see if we can get in touch with Ole, see if he's been covering this, and see if we can get more information.
All right, thank you for watching, and take care.
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