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May 18, 2017 - Project Camelot
01:59:05
MIKE SPARKS : SPY DISCLOSURES
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Mike's a lot of fun to talk to always and we're going to be talking about the secrets that spies have and what goes on when they try to reveal them and certainly we will cover some James Bond information but we're also going to talk about Trump and some of the things that are going on In the public domain, I guess you might call it.
And we will also be talking about Crichton and more.
So this is...
Some of the details are on my website.
If you go to projectcamelotportal.com and you click on this broadcast on that same page, you'll find some details there and links to Mike's websites, etc.
And he also has a book out, I believe.
So I'm going to bring...
Mike on the show here.
And Mike, why don't you say hello to everyone?
Hello, everybody.
Welcome.
Okay.
And...
What I'm going to do really briefly here, Mike, is I'm going to read your bio, a bit of it, skim it sort of for the audience, and I think, I'm not sure if I got a chance, I'm not sure whether it came in in time for me to get it on the side or not, so here we go.
Mike is an in-residence graduate of Liberty University with a BS degree in History and Education.
His last assignment in the U.S. Army Reserves was as a MOS 11A5P Airborne Qualified Infantry Officer with the rank of 1LT Promotable.
After previously having been an NCO and LT, which means Lieutenant, is that correct?
Right.
All right.
In the USMC, as well as in the Army, Mike uniquely has experienced and become skilled at both airborne and amphibious warfare methodologies throughout his ongoing military and defense consultant career to industry and senior military Mike uniquely has experienced and become skilled at both airborne and amphibious warfare methodologies throughout his ongoing military and defense consultant career to industry and senior military officials spanning
Mike leads a nonprofit think tank, the first tactical studies group, Airborne, which fights for US military reform.
So wars are won and ended, not prolonged for profits, by offering various force structures, cultural wisdom, and new equipment designs for no charge.
Their website is combatreform.org.
The first TSGA enhances our military behind the scenes through proper channels and professional military educational forums so America's constitution and free way of life are protected as well as upgraded Constantly to be morally sound, efficient, and worth emulating.
He is also author of numerous military reform concepts, etc.
And I believe you have at least one book.
Isn't that a book on James Bond, Mike?
Right.
The James Bond is a real book.
We also have Joint Global Response Force that came out last year.
And then a few years before that, we did Air Max Strike, Asymmetric maneuver warfare for the 21st century.
So I usually end up being the editor of Senior Officers.
I put all the books, you know, their chapters together into a book, coherent book.
All right.
And so tonight what I want to do is just briefly, you know, is there anything in your bio or about your bio that you want to augment for us before we launch into our discussion?
Well, right.
The concept of good faith that...
Everything that we've been doing, I've been doing, was based on the good faith ideal.
The other people we were working with were also operating in good faith.
We're here tonight because the realization that took place in my life was that I realized that the people at the top are not operating in good faith.
All of these great ideas we've got, we would force them into a corner.
Like when I was briefing the Vice Chief of Staff, the Army, General John Keene, he agreed with me to every point I said, and then afterwards he didn't do a darn thing.
I found out later he's a Bilderberg member.
So you can win the argument and dominate the debate.
It doesn't mean that they're going to do what you say or suggest, no matter how clever you are, if they're operating in bad faith.
That's the sad thing that I've learned in my life.
Okay, well...
Yes, obviously.
And you are operating in good faith.
You have quite a history of bringing these interesting, well, anecdotes about James Bond, about his background and all of that to the fore and the fact that he was not...
Let's say the superficial character that he was kind of painted out to be in the movies, and that the movies have a lot more truth to them than...
You might even say then fiction.
So I know that that's one of your main premises.
But in terms of putting things in order tonight, maybe we should start off with the Trump stuff just to launch the discussion and then we can get into the Crichton material and et cetera as we progress.
Oh, no problem.
What you have right now is what was presented in the beginning of the last James Bond movie, Spectre, If you remember that movie, the first part of the movie shows Daniel Craig's 007 using surveillance against the bad guys,
with a laser sight and reverberating the vibrations off the window pane to listen in on the Spectre Illuminati Deep State Secret Society meeting, using it then to figure out they're going to blow up a stadium.
He opens fire, sets the bomb off, and he gets back to London, and he's not rewarded for taking the initiative.
He's slapped on his wrist and punished for acting out of order, for not getting permission to do what he was doing, and they reward him by giving him a blood surveillance agent.
So he's under, you know, complete surveillance.
Now the thing that's very interesting, and I just watched the movie again because it's multiple layer, is I realize that the movie makers also show what happened to the bad guys.
Their guy, Mr.
White, also took the initiative and said, hey, I'm not going to be blowing up women and children.
And their reward for him was to give him radioactive poisoning to kill him.
So he cannot operate either.
So the first half of the movie is brilliant because it's showing you what happens if you let this surveillance override everything you're doing.
You don't have any elbow room to operate.
You can't be a good guy and you can't even be a bad guy if you've got surveillance pounding you everywhere you go.
So I thought that was great.
Now I would have preferred at the end of the movie they would have shown the footage of Mr.
White shooting himself.
They had fabricated it and made it look like James Bond had shot him.
Because that's true.
They can collect imagery of you.
Then they can alter it.
And I wish they had done that.
But I'm kind of feeling better about the movies.
They showed you the other aspect is the stifling of initiative and privacy.
You know, the whole point of the founding fathers with privacy, having it is so you can live your life free.
If you have everybody, you know, Tom, Dick, and Harry criticizing everything you're doing, how can you operate?
How can you live a life of freedom?
What you're seeing now in the Trump administration is the same effect.
They are in a deep state.
Criticizing everything he's doing and using it from the vantage point of the fly in the wall.
This bit about the Washington Post declaring that he revealed secrets, that's a good guess.
That's a good lie to say you're not at the meeting, right?
And to say that he's revealing information and intelligence for the Russians, well, I mean, he's not going to be talking to you about his latest recipe for Girl Scout cookies, right, with the Russian Prime Minister, right?
He's going to be sharing intelligence, so it's a very good guess.
And then all they have to do is lie about it and say, oh, he's giving away stuff he shouldn't be giving.
How can President Trump be president if he doesn't have the freedom to maneuver, doesn't have the freedom to operate?
Well, isn't this, let me just stop you there, isn't what they're saying though, prior to the election, they're not saying after the election, they're saying prior to the election or even during the election process.
Right, but they're saying that they had a recent meeting with the Russian foreign minister and they're trying to play a gotcha game like I was saying that they had like a surveillance tape and they caught him saying something about You know, Agent 1587, you know, let's say he's in the village in Syria, and, you know, we don't want to give his name away, but he's our source, and he says such and such and such and such.
So it's that old, you know, saw, but he's giving away sources and methods, you know.
And how can you refute a negative, right?
Right.
So the president said, I'll give you the damn transcript.
Everything was set, you know.
Well, okay, but this is actually kind of late to the game.
They're just saying that, oh, now suddenly...
I mean, first of all, if he's under surveillance for having supposedly revealed secrets with the Russians, then, you know, during his election process, etc., and prior to that, he's not...
It's like stupid to even think that if it were true, he's not going to suddenly do it when he's, you know, president, when it can be so obvious and they can say, gotcha, as you're saying.
So, you know...
That fate behind it is that you have...
The Illuminati, the deep state, won a war with Russia.
And I suspect that might have been one of the last directives of David Rockefeller.
He's dying.
And he says, execute Plan Orange, or whatever it is, which is nuclear war with Russia.
We'll survive it because we're Illuminati.
We've got deep underground bases, off-planet, whatever.
And to hell with the sheeple.
I'm dying.
I'm over 100, right?
David Rockefeller.
So two or three years before his death, he says, let's execute this crazy plan.
We're going to have a war of Russia.
They oppose that.
The Trump administration doesn't want the war of Russia.
That's put them at odds with the deep state.
Just like you see in Spectre.
They want a complete surveillance planet where the other nations share intelligence freely.
When you think about it, that's not wise.
You know, the whole point of having nation states is they have some kind of privacy, some kind of separatism, you know, of the nation states.
And they're trying to obliterate that.
Who knows how that information is going to be used and abused.
But anyway, the point is that you've got different nations that will help spy for different nations to circumvent their laws.
So if the CIA needed somebody to spy in the United States and they weren't, you know, they were glib about to do it anyway.
But let's say they wanted to apply by the rules.
They could ask MI6 to come over here and spy for them.
And then it's neutral.
They all go to come over to London, England and spy for MI6.
And then they share the information.
You see what I mean?
Because they're supposedly not supposed to do domestic spy.
But the FISA court is supposed to only authorize in good faith spying.
If it's, you know, somebody who's really doing criminal stuff, not just that they oppose the deep state.
You know, President Trump, as a candidate and as president, has a damn right to oppose nuclear war of Russia.
We seem to forget that.
And if that's his opinion, that's his good faith position, that's not justification for the FISA court to start spying on him and try to help Hillary Clinton win the election or later now in the game to try to make accusations up that, gotcha, you violated some rule of thumb and now we've gotcha, you violated some rule of thumb and now we've got you on an impeachable offense and everything.
Basically, they're trying to obviously get him out of power because Trump has shown some independence of thought that he's not just going to go along with the deep state.
And the big one is war with Russia.
There are definitely a bunch of right wing neocons that think we could go to war with Russia, somehow keep it under the nuclear threshold with our conventional military advantage we think we have, which we really don't, think that we'll beat them, cause a regime change and they'll just become think that we'll beat them, cause a regime change and they'll just become like a 51st state of That's very dangerous stuff.
And anyone who's sane and sober is going to not want the war of Russia, which is unnecessary.
They're frankly in line with what we want anyway.
You know, in the worldview.
Well, yeah.
I mean, a lot of this is...
Yeah, but...
Can you possibly agree with me that this is a distraction ploy?
First of all, we work closely with Russia off-planet.
So war with Russia would be completely self-defeating.
It would just be another skirmish.
It's much more likely, for example, that something will manifest surrounding Ukraine and Crimea.
And that it would be a more inadvertent war, not a direct war.
There's no point in the two superpowers engaging, really.
And then there's the whole China question.
So, you know, I think this is just a lot of...
A lot of distraction, and it's quite superficial.
It is nagging his administration.
I can say that there is evidence that he was obviously, prior to the election, he was talking, or during the election, he was talking about Snowden being a traitor, supposedly, for...
For revealing secrets.
So he was even saying, what did we used to do to traitors?
You know, basically alluding to the fact that they would be hung, I suppose, or something.
So, you know, in other words, it's kind of like they have nothing else to hang their hat on and to grab.
And according to one of my witnesses, at least, because Trump has had dealings with his company And companies in the past and with Russia, this is kind of like...
It's easy pickings, but he's a businessman, and there's no way that he's going to be working for Putin, per se.
This is absurd.
Any more than Putin and Trump are working for somebody.
Now, if they're working for somebody, which is very likely, by the way, somebody higher than them, somebody above the level of what we call countries, this is what's really going on.
Yeah, we define that as the deep state now.
I wrote about it in James Bond is Real in 2011, so I'm not just Johnny Cumm lightly here.
There are three levels above the nation state figurehead.
There are the intelligence agencies, the banksters, and then the secret societies, you know, the people with the little covens and the hoods, and they're doing all the demented stuff, you know, and eyes wide shut.
So I said it.
It's on the record, you know, and I think that's the proper definition of the deep state.
These are actual societal entities that are not being, you know, controlled by anybody.
They're not underneath the nation-state top.
And Trump is trying to obviously act like he's the top dog of America.
And there really isn't.
There's three levels above him.
And they're trying to destroy him.
So I don't know if he's trying to play possum, give them some bones every once in a while, you know, airstrike here, a cruise missile strike against Syria, you know, give them a Wall Street payoff, you know, say things like we're going to hang Snowden and everything like that.
So like you're saying, it's low-hanging behavior.
behavior, you know, it's lowbrow behavior to the higher geostrategic goal, which could be your disclosure, which is that if the, you know, terrorist card no longer shakes people up, you got to go extra physical, you know, exo-political.
And I've tried to get the high ground there, and I've gotten a lot of crap about that, But you've got no choice.
I mean, if the sheeple are not afraid of a terrorist attack, where can we go?
We can go nuclear?
We can go asteroid and then we go, you know, extraterrestrial.
Well, keep in mind...
The fear part has to be more fearful.
North Korea is obviously, you know, working into that scenario actually rather nicely.
The rogue nation thing that, you know, Hal Rosen got from Von Braun.
You know, that's nuclear.
You know, the nuclear rogue nation thing.
Or the nuclear terrorist attack.
Exactly.
Exactly.
The thing that the American people and our listeners have to realize is just like you did, is you've got to start playing chess.
You know, not checkers.
I mean, checkers is a lot more fun.
You know, I jump you, you jump me.
But that's an automatic reaction.
You've got to think like chess and think that there's three or four moves ahead that they're playing the game.
And that's brilliant of you that you brought it up.
That's good of you.
And it does relate to, you know, the discussion that we'll have later about my experience with a high-level operative, Christopher Crichton, John Ainsworth Davis.
You know, he's talking about the geopolitics of what took place to win World War II. And my associate, Lawrence DeMillo, in Argentina, her and I edited his last book.
And that book's called The Mountbatten Report.
And in that book, he squares away his fictional attempt to get a story out with the guy that did the Death Wish series, Brian Garfield.
That's usually the way that your intelligence operators, when they get out of the service, they want to tell their story.
The first way to kind of vaccinate the public So James Bond, you know, from Ian Fleming, is the most popular, successful version of that.
But you've got to ask yourself, as, you know, Fleming told us, everything I write has a precedent and truth.
He's under, you know, the Official Secrets Act.
He can't just give his straight story out.
Now, what happened with John Ainsworth Davis, Christopher Crichton, he outlived the...
You know, age requirement, you know, like there's a 50-year cutoff, 60-year.
He outlived that, and he wrote his true story, but for some strange reason, it hasn't reached the James Bond situation.
You know, fan base.
So we can talk about that.
Okay.
Well, let me ask you, the final Mountbatten report, most secret, Christopher Robin goes to war, it says.
Now this, there's a, I see there's a Kindle edition.
Your name isn't on there.
It says by Lord Chancellor John Ainsworth Davis and Amy D. Crichton.
Amy D. Crichton is Lawrence DeMillo.
And the Lord Chancellor is Greg Hallett.
You're kidding.
But I thought you were a co-writer as well.
On the second edition.
The second edition we had to fix the Lord Chancellor stuff.
Greg put a bunch of stuff in the book to draw a tangent to himself.
It was silly.
It wasn't necessary.
So we took that out of the book, and the second edition just gave the book to Crichton, John Andrew Davis, to just say his story straight.
Now, did you give me a link to that for people to find your book?
Because I found this one on Amazon.
Is yours on Amazon as well?
No, it's on Lulu.
So you'd go to Lulu, or you would go to YouTube and put down Mountbatten Report, and...
You know, I hate to ruin our good sound.
I don't want to mouse click, but I can find it for you, the direct gobbledygook link, and give you the links to the Mountbatten report.
Okay, so you didn't give it, because I put a bunch of links that are under your name.
I put all those on my website.
None of those links go to this book?
No, but if you go to Dynabit Para 2 on YouTube, you'll see the video of the Mountbatten report video.
I did an intro video of it.
You just click on that, and then you'll give you the link to Lulu.
Okay.
All right.
I can tell you what exactly is in the book.
We edited it.
We told the story of what the fight was to get the book to print.
Because what happens is, not only do they want you to write fiction, and that's what they did to Fleming, And Fleming was working for MI6 Information Research Directorate to improve the opinion of MI6, you know, in the world's opinion because we had the spy scandals, right?
So MI6 has hired Fleming.
He took off with the idea of the fictional character and he's got a lot of secrets in Ian Fleming's writings that possibly got him killed.
Because the Warren Commission was coming out in 1964, and he was a friend of Kennedy, and if Fleming had said it was a snow job, billions of James Bond fans would have listened to Fleming and said he had a heart attack on a golf course and he's dead.
I give credit to that theory to Jim Mars.
He's the one that put two in together, and he suspects Fleming was killed because he over-exceeded his orders with the James Bond series.
But the second thing you do, while you're having your spy write his fictionalized story, You have a handler.
And Amy Crichton, which is Lawrence DeMello, clashed directly with Crichton, John Ainsworth Davis, with the handler, which will go unnamed.
You can figure out who it is.
But he's quite the guy.
He's been put in charge to make sure that his story doesn't get popular anymore.
Attention.
First thing you do is you get Brian Garfield to fictionalize it, put some events in there that didn't happen.
And then every time a movie deal comes up, suddenly it gets ruined.
It doesn't go through.
So I was hoping she'd be on the show today and give you the details of it.
But the people of the world like movies.
If you dramatically act his book, OPJB, The Last Great Secret of the Second World War, which we could have gotten that book made into a movie, then it would have stunned the world.
Now, what I did is I made a six-minute sizzle reel.
And you can see what that movie could have been like, you know, in six-minute form, which is what we did.
We spent a lot of time and money, and we made, like, a mini James Bond movie.
You can go to Dena McPara 2 on YouTube and see that baby.
We got a standing ovation on the day that, you know, Skyfall was shown.
They liked our movie better than Skyfall.
So...
Okay, can you hold that book up again?
Because you've shown it before on my show.
Yeah.
Now, what I'm also noticing, I think I found the link in Lulu to the other book that you said you're not listed again as one of the authors, but you're saying you're involved in it, right?
Yeah, I'm the editor.
I helped her edit it.
All right.
So the one on Lulu, I can put it in the chat, but it's not an e-book either, right?
And neither is this one.
Yeah, it's, you know...
The e-book thing, I haven't broken the code on that.
Okay, well...
Eyeballs will pop, you know, and you've got to do this and this and this.
I hear you.
Well, okay, that's all good, but it's just when you travel a lot.
It would be lovely to have both of these things as e-books, because I travel so much, it's just, you know, sort of...
I've got a paper copy.
Yeah, I hear you.
Well, I'm going to get a paper copy, I guess, ultimately.
A lot easier on your eyes.
Well, actually, I disagree.
I can read Kindle much easier, but whatever.
It's all good.
It doesn't matter.
So, let's not completely leave the Trump situation, though.
I'm just saying that I've dealt with, in person, you know, with Christopher Crichton, verified his story.
So, that's my life experience.
I'm trying to track down the James Bond is real vibe, that thread, to include I interviewed with his son, Patrick McNee, before he died.
His son interviewed his father before he died in the nursing home.
So I've been on the trail here to get to the truth of James Bond is real, and it's a true story.
So James Bond is real.
What you see in the movies is real.
You've got to know what you've got.
The fictionalized thing is a stunt that they pull.
They got this official secret act cutoff date thing they do.
Then they got the handler from hell thing that they do, which you ruined your movie deals, ruined your book deals.
And so what happened was, and this is all in the beginning of Mountbatten Report, is...
The testimony of me and Lawrence was that she got this manuscript out of the blue because she's an investigative reporter, and that was a way of outflanking his handler.
You know what I mean?
Okay, kind of run that by me in a little more detail.
So how is he outflanking...
She got the manuscript.
Right?
Of his new book.
You know, where he takes away the fictional details.
Right.
Okay, so who...
Okay, the reporter bought it?
No, no.
Lawrence DeMello in Argentina, the investigative reporter.
All right.
She, an award-winning gal, gets the book out of the blue from Christopher Crichton, John Ainsworth Davis, to outflank his handler.
You see?
Because at that point, remember, you can't publish things You know, without a lot of money, so you're dependent on the publishing companies.
And then if you control the publishing companies, your intelligence agencies, you've got all these millions of dollars, and you can pay them more money to not publish something than to publish it.
And so there was a battle to get OPJB out, right?
And that is described by Milton Schulman, an Army major from World War II who knew Crichton, in his book called Hitler, Marilyn, and Me.
So if you read that book, you'll read the battle to get OPJB published in 1996.
But then there was a full feat there, and now they don't want Crichton to separate the fiction from the truth in a book.
So what he did to outflank the publishing houses is he gave the manuscript to Lawrence DeMello before, guess what, his manuscript vanished.
He had a flood in his basement.
You know how these old farts are.
They're not big on the computer.
You know, no blame to me either.
You know what I mean?
You know, it's 1996.
You know, the computer and the internet just started to get revved up.
He lost his book.
So he was very upset that he lost his book.
But fortunately, he had sent a copy as, you know, backup to Lawrence DeMello.
And Lawrence DeMello then gets hooked up with Greg Hallett.
I'm finding him, you know, John Ensworth Davis.
I found him on my own.
And then I find out that Greg Hallett I've already talked to because of Hitler was a British agent.
It's a great book before Hallett went kind of crazy on his, you know, attempt to find out who the Holy Grail is and that kind of silliness.
He was doing his World War II stuff.
It was really good because he showed how possibly at the end of OPJP, Fleming was diverted and put Hitler on a flying boat, you know, a float plane and got him into Spain.
Which I intend to believe more than that he went all the way to Argentina, you know, South America.
But anyway, Greg Hallett was sound at that time, and he was writing this stuff.
And then I found out that he was working with Lawrence DeMello, and that's what you see in that first edition of the Mountbatten Report, which unfortunately he put a lot of stuff about himself in the book.
When he should have let, you know...
John Ainsworth Davis, 85 years old, be the star of the show.
You know what I mean?
All right.
Well, Greg Hallett is a very interesting man.
And, you know, I've had him on my show before.
It'd be nice to have him back on.
I am not familiar with his current work.
But it's good to hear that he was actually instrumental behind the scenes in one of these books.
So, when you said you were actually talking about sort of, I guess, going around the agency, sort of kind of stepping in to interfere with this process of writing his own, I guess, memoirs, wouldn't that be?
I would doubt that they sent somebody there to, you know, burglarize his house and flood his basement to destroy it.
Okay, but the book came out anyway, and so why...
How did that happen?
Because...
It apparently looks like they had to put some money into the book, so Greg Hallett published it with his own money.
How did he get his hands on the book, though?
If the place was flooded, someone had a copy?
That's what I was trying to say.
It copied John Ainsworth Davis, Christopher Crichton, Jad, we'll call him, okay?
Jad was smart enough to send a backup copy to DeMello.
So they outflanked the attempt to...
And tell me about Lawrence DeMello, because, you know, I did want her to come on my show.
I had been in touch with her a long time ago, inviting her.
I don't know what happened.
In that instance, is there any, you know, was she just shy or she wasn't available today?
How did that, you know, can you, you know, I don't want to get you into personal.
She doesn't like to go, you know, down the exo-politics line of thought.
She's grounded here on the earth and she wants to talk about, you know, geopolitical stuff and military political stuff.
That's her genre.
She's not comfortable talking about the, uh, Well, there's no...
I mean, this subject that we're outlining here is pretty much birth-based as it happens.
I talk about all sorts of things, so you might assure her that if she doesn't want to talk about that, she doesn't have to.
She can talk about whatever she wants.
I think that there's plenty of fascinating stuff here.
Sure.
Absolutely.
The way to win the war, when the war is instigated, right?
Right.
He is an automatic decency.
And I tried to get that.
That's my main beef with Greg.
You know, I guess you're not supposed to talk about your differences.
But Greg is so bitter about the deep state Illuminati instigating World War II, I keep trying to tell him that...
Fleming came up with the same problem in Casino Royale.
He said, how do you know who the good guys are and the bad guys are when they're instigating this?
And the whole point of Casino Royale, people aren't going to read the book, so I'm going to tell you.
He has, you know, Mathis tell him that when you see an evil man hurting your loved ones, you'll know what to do.
And you've got to fight them.
When evil is presented to you, you've got to fight it.
And this guy, John Ainsworth Davis, Christopher Crichton, Well, when you say he doesn't want to feel that way, about what do you mean?
He doesn't want to fight...
He's doing the spy stuff.
No, no, wait.
He doesn't want to fight Nazis?
I'm not sure what you're saying he's disagreeing with.
He doesn't want to fight anybody because the whole thing's tainted.
You see what I'm saying?
He's...
When the Nazis right there, you know, trying to kick your door down, you've got to shoot him and stop him from killing your family.
He says because the war was concocted in, you know, bad faith, we don't have to fight these guys, and these guys don't deserve our respect.
You see what I mean?
He's trying to say that Crichton, because he had to do some dirty tricks, like blow up a Dutch submarine, kill some people that knew about the Pearl Harbor, you know, fleet, You know, the Japanese fleet approaching.
There's some dirty tricks that had to be done.
Even DeMello and I, she doesn't fully agree with some of this stuff, that has to be discussed.
And the best thing that I can use to describe it is the ultra secret.
There's a controversy that Coventry was allowed to be bombed by Churchill because if he didn't, the Germans would have known that we broke their coats.
Right, the lesser of two evils type of thing.
There's a lot of that going on, and Greg doesn't want to...
Believe that Jad deserves our respect and admiration because he's acting in good faith, even if he's having to act like a killer.
I mean, not act like a killer, act as a killer.
Well, there's no doubt.
I mean, there's no doubt that both sides are jaded.
Both sides are implicated and continue to be.
In other words, neither one of them are lily white, so to speak.
But you see with Mountbatten Report that he keeps going to the same stories.
So he's not lying.
It's not flattering.
He tells you that he blew up a Dutch side plane to keep them silent about seeing the Japanese fleet approach.
Because if the Japanese don't attack Pearl Harbor, the American sheeple don't get mad at Pan, Germany doesn't declare war on America, and we lose World War II. Churchill and FDR baited the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor.
The fleet was in San Diego before.
They moved the fleet to Pearl Harbor to dangle it in front of the Japanese.
They took the bait, and it was necessary to lose 3,000 men at Pearl Harbor to save millions.
Now, that's something very hard for people to accept.
All right, now let's back up even further because I'm always interested in Churchill's role way back when, when supposedly they set Hitler up to this whole thing and they managed him.
The story that I heard was that they had him, but he went off the reservation, so to speak.
In other words, he was supposed to cause some trouble in Europe.
But then he got sort of, just like Saddam Hussein, this is how they characterize it, and just like Gaddafi, supposedly.
This is what they're always saying, is these guys go off the reservation, they set them up, they give them money, they outfit them, they allow them to To wreak havoc up to a certain point and then the guys, it goes to their head and then they have to come in and reign them in and that's what we have World War II. So what do you know about Churchill's role in that regard?
Right.
Well, the thing is that you go to, I give the source, Hitler was a British agent by Greg Hallett, brilliant book, stands the test of time, masterpiece.
He lays out the case that Hitler has missing time, 1919 time period, where he's in England, 1919, 1920, and what the hell is he doing there?
And he says Tavistock Institute was underway, and they actually mind-controlled him.
So that's the extremes.
You can go.
Hitler was a British agent, spent time in England while he was down and out.
There's no doubt he was an agent, a counterintelligence agent, sent to infiltrate the right-wing, you know, movements, fascist movements.
That's factual, you know...
Standard history.
And then they said, well, he got into it too much and then became the agent.
He became what he was supposed to stop.
But, you know, Hitler was supposed to be an actual illegitimate child of the Rothschild.
Apparently, and this is all from Hallett's book, they figured out not test tube babies, but they figured out how to make babies by rape.
And so you make these illegitimate children with these Rothschild, you know, rich people, give them a bad childhood, Which was shown in a movie.
I try to use movies so people can relate to it.
I forget the movie with Gregory Peck.
But they thought if they could clone Hitler and give him the same life, bad experience, he'd grow up as a nasty guy.
Again, the boys from Brazil.
But the idea is that these guys have a bad childhood, and then later on they're reeled in.
Back into the fold to be their agents of destruction.
And so I think that's a very sound case that Hitler was actively under psychological control of the British, and the game plan was to attack Russia.
In other words, go east, attack the Russian communists created by the Rothschilds, and Hitler would be financed by the Rockefellers in the United States.
They would both mutually destroy each other, And make lots of profits for the Illuminati, both the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds.
Something went wrong in 1939, and the Prime Minister of England, when I don't have the answer to this, suddenly decided we're going to defend Poland.
There's no way that landlocked Poland is going to be defended by the seaborne British Royal Navy dominant British military.
But for some reason, somebody from MI5, which is internal security, not MI6, which is foreign intelligence service, accused him of being the P word.
And he took it as an insult because he'd done all that, you know, giving up Czechoslovakia to Hitler and everything.
And he went the other way and said, we're going to defend Poland.
And that turned Hitler west when he never was going to go west.
He was supposed to go east and attack Russia.
So there's your evil plan getting your switcheroo that we don't know the answer yet.
But somebody put a bug in the ear of somebody at MI5 and got Neville Chamberlain to change his policy and get Hitler attacking us.
That was never the intention.
All right.
Well, that's an interesting angle on all of it.
Can we go back to some of these other points that you were trying to make?
Because this World War II angle is...
You can go on forever and ever about World War II, but where does it all lead?
Ultimately, the only place that it goes forward is really...
Project Paperclip when they basically move everything over here.
I mean, again, you know, this sort of playing these countries against each other.
I guess you know Jordan Maxwell, but he talks about the, you know, the two wings of the eagle.
And the United States is one side and Russia is the other.
And basically you have to continue to keep, keep those two sides contentious on some level, even if it's the most superficial level and they're working together above that.
So along these lines, it seems like throughout history, this is what we have basically an effort and, and it's going on again to maintain the animosity between these players.
And when they get too close or too closely in agreement, which is where Russia and the U S has actually gotten to right.
Philosophically, et cetera.
Then you've got a problem.
And the whole issue also, when one begins to...
You have to bring China into it at this point.
That whole China-North Korea scenario is a very interesting one.
There's lots of predictions about North Korea...
Creating an EMP or a nuke and so on.
So how do you look at all of that in light of the other information you have?
Well, it's not like I'm going to be a Greg Hallett publicity agent, but Greg Hallett said that everything that happens today is because of 1945.
And it's so true.
1945 at the endgame, they realized that never let...
Your enlightened amateurs, your Ian Fleming's, James Gavin's, George Patton's, to ever run the show again.
Because once we got into the war, we started getting pretty good at it.
That's my line of work.
I look at 1945, and we got terrain firepower saturation.
We got naval gunfire.
We got planes dropping bombs ahead of our forces for maneuver.
We're doing a lot of good things.
And they don't want that.
They want wars to be prolonged, not be won, you know, decisively.
So at the end of 1945, they decided we're not going to let these moral decent men run the show ever again.
So that's where I take it that ever since then, they've been keeping war, like you said, on a low boil at all times and only letting themselves, the people in the deep state, get to play.
Only the deep state people get to play James Bond or John Wayne.
All right?
So...
What you have happen is they have to make their own problems, their own dragons to slay, as you've already noted.
So you've got, in the 80s, David Rockefeller going to China and giving them technology to give them a golfer's handicap advantage, okay?
They're not golfing so well, so we're going to give them a handicap.
And now they've taken their creativity, their introversion, you know, Chinese people are very thoughtful people.
And now they're making all kinds of cool gadgets and widgets.
And there is a trade imbalance because they make cool stuff.
I've got a room full of cool stuff.
So they are...
Well, then you get MH17 and Flight 370 and there's a whole link up there I was just talking to John Lear about.
And, you know, again, and we had technology there that, you know, these, what were supposed to be, what was Freescale, which is a division of Motorola, these, what they call super, super users, I think they're called.
Anyway, these guys, and also the ownership of the tech that has to do with a super, a centralization chip, if the information we have is correct.
That, all that, you know, the plane disappearing, et cetera, et cetera.
So this wraps these countries together in terms of intellectual property and a war.
You also can't...
The role of Israel in that is also instrumental.
So I don't know where you're going with...
You don't look at...
It looks like you don't really look at the Israeli sort of role with regard to all of this.
Because somewhere...
Look at the general trends.
And what you're seeing is a hyper-opinionatedism.
You know, the movie by Adam Curtis called Hyper-Normalization.
I came to that same conclusion that he did, so I'm delighted to see his video.
But basically today, people are more opinionated about everything because of the cell phone and the personal computer.
So the level of bad faith, malfeasance today has just reached epic levels.
So the idea of what is truth is just so beyond the sheeple to figure out.
Right.
Because they're not equipped to sort out what the truth is from facts and reasoning and sources and methods.
They're getting all this truth, they think, from this narrow cell phone, okay?
Right.
And that's extremely dangerous.
And that's a change, I believe, that happens every 10 years.
There's a zeitgeist change.
I believe from 1997 to 2001, 9-11, was the age of the laptop computer, where you have a full screen and you research things.
But I think we've moved now negatively to the cell phone.
The cell phone.
And people's vistas of finding out the truth is so narrow.
So that's the point of what I'm saying about...
What the mainstream fake news media is saying about Trump and all that is what is the truth?
And in the old days, it had to be store-bought.
In other words, if you read a book, that means it was vetted, you know, like Milton Schumann is going to talk about and Hitler and Marilyn and me.
The idea is if you got a book, somebody's backing those words up and somebody did some fact-checking.
But today, anybody with their cell phone can make store-bought-looking products.
What I mean by store-bought, they look professional, and it might be just verbal BS that they're just concocting.
But it's in a nice font.
Pictures are centered.
It's got pictures.
And the sheeple just can't differentiate what's true or not.
So that's why if we allow a surveillance state to happen, the government is going to say that they put together their story from whole cloth, that they had a FISA court order, and they're reporting this, what they saw. and they're reporting this, what they saw.
And I'm saying BS.
There's nothing to tell that they didn't change the footage, that they didn't editorialize it.
And that's what the founding fathers warned us against.
What I'm trying to say about that is that it's very detailed.
So what you're talking about, about different kinds of dirty tricks by different dirty players, it's all true.
And the only way we're going to get to the bottom is going to dry erase the board and start putting what we know and start wire diagramming it.
And that's a lot of work.
And people don't have the patience to do that.
You know, they barely have people who have patience to listen to this radio show, right?
And hear us verbalize it, let alone...
True.
And reading books is a really important move.
You know, I do read books.
I enjoy books.
And you get a more cohesive picture when you have to actually spend the time to follow someone else's line of thought that has gathered together a lot of very interesting information.
As opposed to these sort of one-liners that people come up with that are generalizing about something going on and we're really never getting to the root of all of it.
And as you say, it needs to be investigated.
But there are a lot of good investigators on YouTube, in my view.
And a lot of people that are starting to learn how to follow the clues.
And they are making videos about them.
Whether or not people take the time to watch the whole video and understand the context of what's being said is a whole other ballgame.
You know, there's a lot going on around the Trump administration right now.
A lot of misleading stuff.
And whoever's trying to guide that sort of what you call the storyline, you know, in other words, there's a story that they're trying to sell you, and they want to keep you away from, that's how they use the word conspiracy.
You know, a conspiracy, as always, as I say, is basically two or more people plotting something nefarious.
Well, Right, the second on planet Earth, that's happening every second.
And so conspiracies galore do exist.
They exist every day of our lives, and they are real.
Now, that's not even grazing the surface of the larger conspiracy that does involve huge numbers of people.
Or not so huge, maybe.
You could say the committee of 300.
Let's start with some level like that.
And, you know, 300 or more people.
Bilderberg.
Bilderberg is set to meet, I understand, June, I think it's June 4th, in Chantilly, Virginia, this time, I hear.
Any question we ask, is James Mattis, Secretary of Defense, going to take a little break and visit?
Yeah, absolutely.
Closer to home, right?
Well, that's right.
I'm going to be talking, by the way, to Tony Gosling, who is a British correspondent, a person who is an investigator, a serious investigator.
He goes to Bilderberg every year.
He's been reporting on it for years.
He used to be with the BBC and then broke away from them many years ago, actually, and since then has been on his own.
So I'll be talking to him next week, actually, next Wednesday at 6.30 British time.
Which I think is very early in the morning in California, eight hours earlier.
That's something real quick.
I just want to just magnify what you said.
What you talked about then is a thing called the thought-ending cliché.
With people living out through their cell phones, you just get this piffy little statement and it ends all thought.
That's what I think people need to do, is go back to the internet and look up logical fallacies.
There's an excellent Wikipedia page listing all the logical fallacies, thought-ending cliches.
One of them they throw out there.
For sure.
Shut down all debate and everything.
And that one was created in 1967.
I've got a YouTube video I made of it.
1967, they came up with conspiracy, making it into a dirty word.
The CIA did that.
So I always go back to the CIA and your Operation Paperclip not needing to exist.
Alan Dulles created it for the Illuminati.
He's an Illuminati Rockefeller Illuminati lawyer.
The OSS was anti-fascist, great organization.
They conned Truman into closing it down, apparently, with some stupid rumor that, you know, the head of the OSS was having an affair with Truman's daughter.
All right.
Very doubtful.
William Donovan, old man's doing that.
But anyways, enough to get Truman to shut the OSS down, saying we're not going to have a Gestapo on American soil.
And then two years later, that's what he did again by creating the CIA. And that's Gestapo on American shore.
So it was a con job.
It's been continuing.
They're doing their dirty tricks.
And I just don't pull my punches.
We need to disband the CIA. We need to go back, create an OSS that's under control of the American people and works for the American people.
But the same applies to the FBI. That's another unconstitutional persecution outfit.
So I think the frame of Trump is he better get them before they get him.
If he thinks he can play possum and give them a war here, a war there, and they're going to just let him exist, he's making the same mistake that John F. Kennedy did.
And I think he needs to just shut these guys down, institutionally shut them down.
Alright, well let's, why don't you talk to me a little bit about, you know, I know you've got some interesting access.
That's all I'm going to say about that.
But can you tell me about Comey?
What is going on there?
Because that is also a very, you know, it's a wild card.
And the whole time during the election, he's playing an interesting role.
Finally, it looks like Trump got rid of him, you know, but that's going to have a lot of blowback, it appears.
And I don't know where we go from there.
So what is your thought?
My thoughts are, they're going to be radical, okay?
I do believe in divine providence.
And for some reason, in the middle of the election, Comey decided to give the second...
Revelation of, you know, Hillary Clinton dirty tricks.
And also, we had President Obama said he was okay with that.
I believe Divine Providence, God Almighty, directed Comey and Obama to let that happen because that nuked, you know, Hillary's presidential run.
You'd say, you know, she's always been dirty and she's doing these dirty tricks.
Yeah, but the second time, it's the American wisdom.
Fool me once, you know, I'm an idiot.
But fool me twice, no, no, no.
The interesting thing in that scenario is that Comey is actually working supposedly against Hillary at that scenario, and yet suddenly now he's sort of a rat in the House, so to speak, the White House, that has to be gotten rid of because he's going against Trump.
So, you know, what is Comey's real role?
This is an interesting...
I haven't seen anyone really delve into what is this guy?
He's playing a role.
He's been fed information at both junctures that are making him a kind of key fulcrum or a player that is pushing the tide one way and then the other.
So suddenly we're going the opposite direction.
He better have good security.
He's going to end up dead in the ditch in a year or two because the Clintons want him dead.
You know, the bottom line is he did him in and there's no forgiving for that.
So him trying to go back right now and try to, you know, Curry a little favor with them.
It's done.
He's toast.
He better just tell everything he knows.
Don't say you're going to tell everybody what you know.
Just do it.
Get behind that word processor.
Sign your damn name.
Own up to it.
That's his only way he's going to save himself.
Okay?
From being dead.
You know, like William Colby, former CIA. Yeah, I know.
I hear...
Yeah, that's exactly what I thought of.
He needs to disclose everything he knows.
Come clean.
That's his only salvation.
And that means he's going to bring Hillary down even further, and that's too damn bad.
I don't think he has much against Trump.
So it's going to be like 80-20...
But he better do it because he's just going to end up dead.
But I think it was divine providence just like I said with Neville Chamberlain.
We don't know why Neville Chamberlain decided to defend Poland.
We don't know why Comey decided to come out with the second set of revelations against Hillary Clinton.
But it happened.
It changed the course of history.
If he wants to stick around and enjoy some more history, he better get some damn good security.
I mean some competent people, not just some ex-military guys like me.
And people, no tradecraft, or he's going to be dead.
And he needs to dispel the beans of everything he knows.
None of it's only in front of this or in front of that.
None of that gamemanship.
He's got to come clean with everything or he's a dead man.
So that's what I think is happening.
I think he's afraid for his life.
Right.
Well, I think...
He shouldn't be afraid for his life.
Yeah, I have to agree with that.
You know, I think that he has made a lot of enemies.
I also think that, as you say, whoever is running him, this is the question.
You know, I don't think he's a free man, a free operator.
Of course not.
You know, and...
You know, he's a deep state guy.
Yeah, definitely.
Political appointee.
Yeah, it's very interesting.
All right, let's, just in terms of the Trump administration, what about the players behind Trump?
Are you looking at them?
You know, what about the usual suspects, like Kissinger?
Well, the first usual suspect is you've got Tillerson as Secretary of State.
Brzezinski and...
Yeah, he's a right-wing CFR member.
So Trump has got far too many VC on his strike force.
Remember the Green Beret movie with George Takai from Star Trek?
And they ask him, have you seen any VC? I think, David Jansen, seen a VC, I've got him on my strike force.
So he's got his team.
Viet Cong are in his team.
I think that's true.
He's got Viet Cong on his strike force.
So he shouldn't have that.
So those guys are not being loyal to him.
So you've got bankers in there too.
You've got deep state people in his administration.
Who are leading him by gigo, garbage in, garbage out.
And so I always go to Corson's book.
No one's going to read it.
When you read a book, you should be writing notes in the margin.
I don't know if you can do that in an e-book.
Technically, you can.
But does anyone really do it?
But when you read Corson's book on intelligence, he says the President of the United States has to be his own military intelligence officer.
Trump needs that more than anybody.
He needs to become an intelligence officer.
Stop just taking what's fed him.
Garbage in, garbage out.
And that's what you see happening.
He's being manipulated on Syria.
We don't have any evidence.
You know what I mean?
No outward executive evidence that the Syrians were gassing their own people.
Two years ago, they had rebel groups trying to set up that.
So, you know, birds of a feather flock together.
Guilty misbehavior before would lead you to think that it's the same rebels again.
But I don't think it's enough.
I don't think if he ousts Assad in playing possum with the deep state that they're going to leave Trump alone.
I think their prime goal, like you said, low-hanging fruit, is to get some kind of war going with Russia, raise profits for the military-industrial complex.
Well, you know, but one of the things that they do is they have to keep things on a low boil constantly.
So, you know, going for the big guns is really not doing what they want, at least as far as my perspective on planet Earth, it looks like.
That's the question is, you know, is there a plan for index?
And when I mean index is, you know, one of the goals of the Deep State Illuminati And I put it in my book, so, you know, it's not just saying it.
Now, it is a big population reduction.
There are 7 billion people on the Earth.
They like 6 billion of us to go away.
Well, that hasn't been working out too good for them.
You know, war has not really worked out for them on that either.
I hate to say it, but only 62 million people died in World War II. They wanted at least a couple billions.
Right.
Well, you know, Fukushima is certainly doing a job, and the chemtrails also.
I mean, they're weakening the immune system on planet Earth of certainly a certain portion of humanity who are vulnerable.
And the older people, I think, are one of the big targets, and that is what they're headed for.
They may have chosen to do it in a more insidious way than people would necessarily expect.
Yeah, soft kill instead of war kill, hard kill.
Right.
But on the other hand, there are a lot of predictions coming down the pike right now about the next six months of this year.
Camelot was told that this is a major year in terms of turning points.
Whether there really is indeed some planetoid out there that's going to affect our Earth in a bigger way, some major way.
The weather wars are real, no doubt about that.
So those weapons are being utilized constantly.
I want to throw something out at you from...
From the left side of things, what about this link, which is an interesting one that we brought up the other night?
I think, I can't forget, I forget who I was talking to.
It might have been Keith Hunter, but it might have been someone else.
I've been talking to so many people lately, but the thing is...
When it's in pattern analysis, that's good.
You've got to look for the greatest common denominator.
All of these things and see how the patterns develop.
And then you look to see a vibe of what's happening.
That's good intelligence.
Well, absolutely.
But what I want to get from you is your take on this interesting sort of factoid that has to do with Trump's, I think it's his great-grandfather, but maybe it's his grandfather having interactions and Taking Tesla's material, being instrumental in taking the Tesla stuff.
And how does that factor in to Trump suddenly, these number of years later becoming president?
To me, these two things cannot be isolated from each other.
There has to be a cause.
You know, there's a cause and a result.
And Was Trump getting the presidency a payback for something that his great-grandfather Trump did with regard to Tesla?
It's possible because these guys work that way.
Right.
Using the C word, they conspire.
So there is deals made.
And the thing that we always said is, why wasn't Jad Christopher Crichton killed?
Well, basically, the royal family likes Jad and Christopher Crichton.
He did something for Churchill and the royals during World War II, and he's been in good stead ever since.
And he has not been killed, and he's been even tolerated with his book.
So I'm thinking that what they did was they said, all right, we'll let him write a semi-fictional book, OPJB.
He'll tell the world about James Bond and Fleming doing all this stuff and getting Martin Borman out of Berlin.
It's cool stuff.
But at the end of the day, people aren't reading these days.
You know, the book will come and go like a speed bump.
We'll let him do his thing and eventually he'll croak on us.
Sadly, he did.
And we'll have him out of our hair.
But there is some loyalty in the enemy camp that they will abide by some agreements.
And I remember that he would also defer to his handler when the handler was shutting him down.
Jad would Sometimes I kind of have to do what he says.
You know what I mean?
Like, if he doesn't, he's not going to have an income.
Okay?
Okay, let me clarify this.
John G. Trump, it says, was the uncle of the current, of our president, Donald Trump.
So his uncle...
An MIT professor of engineering was very involved in analyzing the papers that they stole from Tesla a few days after he died, it says.
So this is how they work, because they do work long term.
Payback is something they're very involved in, as well as, I guess, honoring their sort of agreements.
They're gentlemen agreements with people.
You just got to look at that.
It does also matter at this moment in terms of timing.
It is interesting because we are right at the, some people would say, we're right at the juncture where So-called free energy.
Some of Tesla's discoveries could be implemented.
The whole energy sector could be basically rewritten in the next, well, 10 years easily.
And I just want you to say, you know, the obvious external trees from the hills, right, is David Rockefeller's dead.
He's dead.
His son is running the empire.
And it could be the time to change from oil to free energy.
Well, right.
It's going to be controlled by the Illuminati.
You can't give Joe Bob and Jim Bob free energy.
If they break up, they'll blow the planet up, you know?
Yeah.
Well, there's also an interesting side note, which probably is slightly off topic, but, you know, this whole emphasis on bringing back coal that Trump makes...
I think that's a dangerous red flag to me because of my whistleblowers.
I have been told that when they decide to take down this game and kind of eliminate the population and cause all kinds of earth changes, etc., and cause an EMP, they'll say someone else did it, but apparently they're going to do it to us, just like 9-11.
And what's part of that has to do with bringing back coal because they're trying to kind of send things backwards.
Because we've reached a brink, right?
And so if they cannot have the game play out the way they want it to play out, so their easiest thing is to clear the board and start again.
And the coal situation seems to be part of that.
Right, it's good pattern analysis and it's in the way they think.
They look down on us.
The Illuminati playbook is Atlas Shrugged.
Their attitude is they're doing us a favor by giving us a social fabric and an economy.
And if we piss them off too much, they'll just say, we're going on strike.
So that's totally in the way they think.
They'll feel that they're insulated from societal collapse.
And then the societal collapse, you know, civil war.
They've already started civil wars in Iraq and, you know, in Syria.
So they're good at starting civil wars.
You know, start one here in the United States.
Let's say an economic collapse from cheap oil.
And that would be in line with what they want, you know, to depopulate and everything like that.
So that's all, you know, in sync with that.
But if you want to look at the coal thing specifically from a techno-tactical perspective, you know, the Chinese are burning a lot of coal.
Yes.
And they do it a dirty way.
And so, you know, they're the people that need to wean off coal more than anybody.
But to dumb us down to their level of, you know, dirty energy would grind us into a third world status even worse than we are right now.
That's right.
We've got to work four jobs just to keep paying the bills.
So that's all consistent, and it would then show that they don't maybe want us to collapse.
They want us to just be degraded.
In other words, if we had no energy, there's a video out on YouTube where it says, "What happens to free oil?
Stop." And it shows everything grinding to a halt.
Instead, if we default to coal, we're going to look like red China.
We're going to be riding bicycles.
But we'll be riding a bike with a little pallet, a little pail of, you know, coal cubes.
Back to the 1800, you know, Charles Dickens.
Oh, Mr.
Dickens.
Oh, God.
It goes to the Christmas past.
All right.
Now, wait, wait, wait.
Okay, so just so we don't get too much off track here, one of your questions that you wanted to talk about was, who are the handlers?
So can you elaborate on that one?
Right.
You're going to have two generational families.
Now, people have a different opinion.
They'll say 13.
I forget the name of the guy that wrote, he writes 13, you know, Coleman says 300, Council 300, but I believe the two main are Rockefeller and Rothschild.
Rockefeller's here in the United States has been in ascendancy since 1945, and Rothschild's, you know, before that.
Right, but I'm told that they're, you know, these are the show people, these are the people that are known, these are not the ones who are really, really in charge.
They are in charge, but I'm just saying if you want to just say that they're the show people, they're not the people drawing the wire diagrams and making the plans.
You know, David Rockefeller's been out of it for a while, I would say at least 10 years, you know, in his octogenarian or whatever it is.
What's a 100-year-old guy?
What genarian is that called?
Well, if you look into royal families and all of that, I was told not only by William Tompkins, but also prior to that by Mark Richards and prior to that by another whistleblower, Bechtel is heavy duty.
That family is way more involved in the aerospace and in a lot of stuff that's going down that they get very little notice out about that family.
But the Bechtel...
Well, I wouldn't put anything past that.
We've already documented in our little chat here, the world has gotten extremely techno-complicated, very techno, and if the showpiece families are not up to the job, they're going to have to defer to some smart people that are far...
I call them five mouse click people.
Don't lynch me.
But I think if you're over 50, five mouse clicks is about the most.
So you're going to talk about 100 mouse click people.
Okay?
100 mouse click people are running the world.
Okay?
We know that because the world is just so damn complicated now.
You know?
So whoever's got that kind of mouse click power in their brain, housing group, They're definitely the ones running the details.
Like the rumor now is that, let's say, Queen Elizabeth in England is not running anything.
Charles is now running day-to-day operations.
So you've got that idea that...
The older people just are not up to the world that we've lived in, you know, hyper-opinionated world we live in.
I do recommend people watch that Adam Curtis video.
I don't agree with everything in the video because they demonize Syria, but you've got to watch it because he's a Rothschild Illuminati documentary.
Adam Curtis, in his video, it's called Hyper-Normalization, also explains what artificial intelligence is.
It's basically feeding back your inputs to you and mimicking, like, the originated, you know, In whole cloth when they didn't.
They're just feeding you back.
And they're, of course, doing that to all of us right now.
Everywhere you go on the Internet, they're tracking what you're going and watching and seeing.
And then they're making, you know, a profile of you.
Well, AI, I mean, it could definitely alert.
I'm getting things that I like.
You know, ads are popping up.
Hey, I kind of like that.
AI is definitely, it's a mirror.
AI is a mirror.
It's always been a mirror.
Every space-faring nation, country, world, devises this mirror, this species-like mirror, and This image that goes out and basically takes over galaxies, etc.
So, yes, I mean, look, I'm not that impressed with hypernumeral normalization, as you call it.
I think it has some worthwhile stuff.
But, you know, I wouldn't get carried away with it.
So at this moment, what I would like you to do also, though, is taking the information that you've got, because, Mike, you've been on this sort of warpath for quite a while, and I'm very curious, where are you going with it now?
What is your, you know, are you starting to head in a different direction?
Are you running out of speed?
Are you, you know, reaching a brick wall?
Where's your head at?
Now, my head at is to try to get ahead of the threat and take the wind out of their sails.
Okay, so what I'm saying is, in a book I've got online for free called Hive Theory, and I really need to write another book called Mask Theory, where I talk about some people have a mask of command, and they're invincible, and they go through life like Che Guevara or Curtis LeMay.
They are invincible.
If you let those guys who are in charge of your country, they're going to set you up to do World War III. They almost did that in Cuban Missile Crisis.
That's my next book, would be Mask Theory.
But in Hive Theory, what I'm saying is that the elites have social problems, and their answer to those social problems are always destructive.
It's like, we need to get rid of 6 billion people and make a smaller hive.
What I try to say in Hive Theory is, Is that we, as decent people, believe in Christian values, Judeo-Christian, or just, you know, whatever, just decency.
You know, people have a conscience, at least, you know, 35% of us.
There's 25% don't have any conscience, and then there's 40% just do whatever the authority figures say.
But those people with conscience need to show that there's a better way to handling the world's problems than enact murder.
And so we've got to have better ideas and better plans.
And so what I'm doing is always advocating those things would be two years of national service.
Right now you've got a lot of bitter people at Trump thinking that he's hating black people and people that are just coming over here for economic opportunity.
If you have an open border, you've got narco-terrorists and you've got intelligence operatives crossing into our border.
We can't let them do that.
We've got to shut the border down and only let legitimate people come over.
But those people are not being pressed down.
We need to raise them up and build character in them.
And not just, you know, say, go get a job, pull yourself by your own boob straps when you know darn well the economy isn't geared for that.
I think we should have two years of national service.
It shouldn't be just the military, civilian conservation corps, it should be nurse corps, police corps, space corps, spy corps.
We should have everybody launch in life for two years, show them there's more to life than a 50-mile radius of the hood, get them two years of college money, you know, whatever, show them there's more to life, build character.
Now, the government can do that.
The government can order you to do things against your will, okay?
I think the time for the government to do that power, one time.
It would be national service.
We need that more than anything.
And not 50 people say the American Constitution is freedom.
I think it's a bump.
Okay, let me stop you right there.
Let me throw this out.
Just for the hell of it.
Because what I think has to happen, obviously, and people will know this already, but I think people need to be awakened.
I think they need to know the real truth.
And I think the military needs to come clean with what's really going on, especially with the black projects, etc., which doesn't mean they have to reveal every secret they ever had.
But it does mean that they have to start painting the true story about what we're really dealing with on planet Earth.
Because if indeed we are a galactic civilization, we're part of a galactic neighborhood and people are not aware of this.
And therefore, a lot of decisions about what we think is going on here on planet Earth are being made without us knowing what is really coming into that decision.
So no choice.
There's no choice whatsoever for normal people out there, so-called normal people.
So...
The populations are in the dark, and this is actually taking all of society and sending it in a backwards trend.
There's a dumbing down, and there's even a sort of expansionary drive to make people dumbed down and think it's a good thing to be dumbed down.
There is an unwillingness.
We need to undump them down.
Right.
So there's no point in having national service until people start to realize what's really going on.
So these so-called politicians and the rest of them At some point, they need to get together, and it does not mean as authority figures.
What it means is the people that are involved in things that are going on off-planet, the new inventions that they're living with, that we have no access to whatsoever, the different forms of energy, yes, etc., etc.
In other words, there's no point in In doing away with populations when in reality what they can really do is go terraform other planets.
They have the capability.
The thing that what I'm saying though is as with the idea out here I don't think they're ready intellectually Without the life experience of seeing how life works with character building through an unselfish activity, the American sheeple are not up to free energy.
They're just not.
They're just going to say, shower it on us to do more consumerism.
I think we need to do the national service first, get these people to realize the stuff that the Illuminati's right on, the Illuminati's right on, You can't just throw power on the sheep.
I don't have a view of humanity quite the same as yours.
I actually think that a lot of this is propaganda as to what humans are really about and how so-called stupid they are.
There are lots of people raising children that have no money, being very ingenious.
You know, there is an amazing self-sacrifice going on in families, etc., etc., trying to deal with, really, against all odds, families and people are still surviving in the most diabolical situations here on planet Earth, and I think it's time we start giving them credit for what they have done to survive under these circumstances.
I think there's just too many of the 25% Psycho-sociopaths and the 40% sheeple followers that cannot be translated with this free energy.
I just use that as a term.
Again, that's a paternalistic view of humanity, which is what's gotten us into trouble to begin with.
I don't see a paternalistic view as saving humanity anymore.
And it hasn't been doing a good job for the last, let's say, 2,000 years.
So why don't we try something different?
Let's let women and children...
I'm not trying something different.
I just want to get my opinion out so you can compare and contrast.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
We'll say five cycles of national service.
That's ten years.
Five two-year periods.
I think we need to grow up America for ten years...
Then you can give them the truth about free energy and anti-gravity and everything.
But we really need to, right now, get these guys connected to laws of physics, objective reality, get them away from these cell phones, get them connected back to cause and effect.
You see what I'm saying?
I say 10 years.
Alright, alright.
Okay, you've made your point.
Let's go somewhere else with this discussion, though, because there's an interesting Twitter going out about saying that the piece of information that is supposed to be so secret that Trump revealed is that we have a base in Saudi Arabia.
Did anyone seriously think we didn't have a base there?
I was one of the people that might be guilty of making it happen.
I wrote to Senator Sam Nunn in the 80s.
And I said, you know, if we want to be in the Middle East, why don't we pick an uninhabited place in Saudi Arabia and build a damn airbase?
Oh, for God's sake.
That's what I used to do before the internet.
I used to write letters to VIPs and give them ideas.
And everybody on the planet knows that we've got bases in Saudi Arabia.
That's like, you know...
There's a toy in Cracker Jacks.
It's just unbelievable.
With 9-11 and the Bushes being hand in glove with Saudi Arabia, did you really ever think we were invading the Middle East without a base in Saudi Arabia?
I mean, really?
See, now that's really stupid.
Yeah.
That's what I meant by the two years of national service.
Get the country out and get them thinking like we are, to think about how does a high-speed train system work?
What are you going to have to make that happen so we don't hit cows at 200 miles an hour?
I want people in the United States to start thinking like responsible people.
And Illuminati are right about one thing.
They say that sheeple don't think like ranchers.
They're not responsible.
They just think somebody else should just go make the lunch for them to, you know, time card...
Like the Warner Brothers cartoon, when the two guys fight, they say, hey, Fred, let's go fight for a while, and it's the guy, the chicken.
I'm a chicken hawk!
So, you know, they're thinking that the sheeple are not up to the job, and they're right about that.
So I think if we had 10 years of national service, then the American people would be more mature, connected to reality.
The Illuminati don't want that.
They don't want the enlightened, good-faith amateur in charge of anything.
But we know that World War II... When you've got everybody involved, let them make creativity.
Let them make mistakes.
We were pretty good.
My father and mother always told me that World War II is the height of their life.
Everyone was cooperating, working together.
So we can have that.
Okay, well, ultimately we are going to be doing that, but it's going to be against a different enemy or enemies.
So let's actually see if there are any questions.
Please put questions in all caps, okay, in the chat.
So, I will go to the chat and we'll ask you some questions from there if they do ask some intelligent questions.
Good.
Well, I was going to put one point out so we get our point.
Remember to tie it in with our previous show.
Absolutely.
If the author gets too close to the truth in his fiction, dead.
You know, I believe that the Jason Bourne author was murdered.
Very suspicious.
We talked about Crichton, you know, Michael Crichton.
You know, if the author starts raising people up...
The jury is still out on that one.
Why was he offed, do you think?
The...
Ludlum?
Robert Ludlum?
No, Crichton.
Oh, he's talking about the technological possibilities.
Right.
Yeah, that's just...
They don't put that can of worms opened at all.
No.
No.
The whole thing about, you know, the giants that were found here in the 1800s.
Right.
You know, when we were just a virgin country.
Hey, whippersnapper!
Go west, young man!
You know, oh my god, the guy's got six toes.
You know, that kind of thing.
Well, I mean, okay, the newest book, which I can't imagine is probably going to get made into a movie, even though he's gone, Dragon Teeth.
Right, that's what I'm talking about.
He's just opening a can of worms they don't want open.
Yeah, it's...
Archaeology, bad faith, malfeasance that's been going on.
See, it's all part of that certainty thing.
Remember I was talking earlier, in the past, a book came out, it was vetted, store-bought, look, somebody's going to be sued if it's a bunch of BS. You know, people believed the store-bought book and movies to an extent, or you get sued, you know, especially documentaries.
So today, you know, we've got a sea of Yeah, very interesting what's going to go on with that book, which is coming out May 23rd, by the way, for those interested, which is next week.
Well, I think it's very cute.
You know, you could die and your name will live on.
Tom Clancy, right?
It's crazy.
Still making best-selling books.
Well, I mean, I imagine he's leaving behind some family, right?
Yes, yes.
I was being glib about that.
Today was a bad day, too.
Chris Cornell was found dead.
James Bond music guy, you know, did the theme song for Casino Royale.
All right, well, it's fitting to have you on the show.
Well, no, I didn't realize he died today.
I didn't give you a bad mood.
Sorry about that.
No, well, you know, depends on what your philosophy is about death.
I don't like it.
You may not look forward to it, but you might actually like being out of body for a while anyway.
You can always come back.
All right, so is there any questions that we can ask Mike here?
And Mike, also, if there's any areas of research you want to touch on that I haven't thought to ask you about, we didn't have on our list.
Well, I was just going to say that you can outflank the handlers by self-publishing your book on Lulu.
I'm not getting any feedback.
They're not giving me kickbacks or anything.
But you can make a book on Lulu.
You've got total editorial control.
It can be free.
You can go to Hide Theory and I have it as an e-book.
It's a little hard in your eyes.
It's a PDF file.
But it's not like the e-book you're talking about where it's in a Kindle.
I haven't figured that one out yet.
That's a little complicated.
But the point is that...
Okay, wait.
You have a PDF. Is it for the public or are you just telling for me?
For the whole public.
You can go to Hide Theory, Mike Sparks, Lulu.
It's a free download.
Okay.
Good to know.
All right.
I put the link to your hardback book already in Lulu.
I put that in the chat so people can get that.
I think you should do that.
In other words, the people who are listening...
They should start trying to sort out all these details and putting it together in just a WordPerfect and WordDocument, Microsoft WordDocument, and talk to yourself.
So I'm trying to teach them to be like an intelligence officer and to start putting things together and write a narrative.
And if you find a Sniglet today, go back, open that WordDocument, paste it in, and start figuring things out with a goal, maybe a long time, that you'll publish a book.
That's right.
And get your two cents out there.
Because a lot of people don't like my conclusions, what I'm saying.
You know what I mean.
So, you know, do better.
All right.
My father and mother said if you don't like what somebody's doing, you have a moral responsibility to do better.
And it's copy and paste.
And, you know, it might go viral.
So I recommend everybody listening in to start doing that.
Start putting together your book, your book, of what you think life is all about, about what the world's all about.
The world according to Brian or Jane, whoever's listening.
All right.
Go ahead and do that.
There are some questions in the chat, so mind if I ask you a few of them?
Yeah.
I was filling your time.
All right.
Well, no, you're doing a good job.
Let's see.
The person wants to know if you know about any DUM's underground bases in Patagonia, Argentina.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
I had a friend write me, and he was building some of them in Argentina, where there was a mountainous area.
And so I could go reconnect with him and say, have you had to do any contract work there?
But from what I would know is that these bases in the mountain spine of South America have an opening...
That allows an anti-gravity craft to fly in covertly and closes up after them.
I wrote a little bit about it in fiction form in my first James Bond book, The Point of Gravity, which you can get online for free.
Just go to jamesbondisforreal.com.
But you can get it in paperback form, too, on Lulu.
But the point is that I could contact him, bring him to a court of law, and we could verify that there are...
Dumbs that exist in South America.
They were built by somebody's money, and we're going to assume it's the Fourth Reich's money, not Argentina.
So it's a state within the state, you know, international businesses, you know, Fourth Reich kind that Joseph Farrell writes about.
It seems to come from those people.
Not the government of Argentina, which always seems to be dirt poor, so they're invading the Falklands, right?
Okay, but the person here who wrote the question says there's a lot going on down there, so that's interesting.
Perhaps they're living down there.
So I can verify that that's true.
So what that means, though, is Henry Stevens, right?
In 1989, according to Stevens, he says the old generation stopped flying their anti-gravity cars.
Okay, well, if you spend all these years building these things, don't you think you'd have your son or your daughter or somebody live on your legacy?
So I'm alerting you to read his book.
I think it's called Dark Star, Henry Stevens.
He's one of the big, you know, Nazi flying saucer guys.
And he just says, ah, 1989, forget about it.
They're just collecting dust in an underground base in South America.
I don't think so.
Well, I don't know about all the UFO sightings we're seeing then.
Right, the UFO sightings.
That's the first thing that gives the game away.
Right.
So I disagree with Stevens.
I don't know what he's...
Something's going on with Secret Space.
Well, there are a lot of people that are trying to do disinfo and getting paid for it as well.
Look, someone wants to know, do the Illuminati oppose the cooperativism movement?
No, they would be in favor of it because it would be something that allows them to control the opposition, which would be if there's an economic collapse, then you would have people that are able to do the co-op thing.
So what they're doing is they're collecting lists of people who can basically run an underground economy.
And so...
If the country does have an economic collapse, they're going to be in the doorsteps of all these co-ops, you know, people that can run an economy by barter, and they're going to be rounding up and killing them, you know, and impressing them.
Well, yeah, there is evidence of that.
I'm very cynical and, I guess you can call me paranoid.
I like the co-op idea.
I'd love to be able to just mow somebody's lawn and get a gallon of milk.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's interesting.
I was audited a few years ago, several years ago, actually.
And I got through the audit because I had all my little receipts and whatnot, which they didn't expect me to have.
So they kind of lost out at their end.
But what happened was they asked me two questions, two big questions, the IRS. One question was, how much cash did I have in my home?
And basically, that's like, these are bell ringers, because why are they asking two questions?
And the other one was, do I barter?
No, no.
Yeah, so those are the two things that you ought to do, if you want to know, and that's what they're going to look out for.
Someone here is asking, who runs George Soros?
Oh, the Rothschild.
He's Rothschild Illuminati all the way.
He's actually shown in Eyes Wide Shut in the beginning of the movie when he's flirting with Nicole Kidman.
Hey, I'll flirt with her too.
Can I star in the movie?
Anyway, he's the Hungarian guy in the beginning of Eyes Wide Shut.
Okay, fair enough.
Let's see.
Go talk to a Rothschild and you'll see a paper trail between those two clients.
Are you aware of the OTO? Oh yeah, I'm aware of it.
You know, they've been popularized with the Dale Brown series.
But, you know, that is the conspiracy theory we'll call, in a car compartmentalized, the religious aspect of it.
You know, the Roman Catholic Church aspect of it.
And so you're going to have a case that could be made throughout history that the first conspiracy, first secret society, One of them could be, just say, the Roman Catholic Church.
Oh, absolutely.
But you could also, you know, predate them with Babylon mystery religions.
So I'd go farther than that.
But in the modern sense, you have a counterfeit Christianity.
That takes the Babylonian mystery religion, mixes it with some Christian-sounding words, and a very extreme organization that meets in secret and does these, you know, Club of Rome kind of things like, you know, the planet's overpopulating, you know, Malthusian petri dishes.
Too many flies are going to be in a petri dish, and that's us.
We're all going to die.
So the OTO is always going from a religious...
You know, social Darwinism kind of mentality.
And, you know, whether you get some legitimacy from them with the Dale Brown, you know, Jesus, you know, Mary Magdalene thing or not, they are invoking that.
I don't get that vibe from them that much.
I get more of a vibe of, you know, the Malthusian Doomsday, you know.
I'm trying to say it's a bloodline of Jesus' people and we've got to follow them.
But they're very big on that.
The Roman Catholic Church wants an unbroken human chain of command.
It reassures people.
When I was in Israel, we visited the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
I hope I'm remembering the right one.
And there was a ladder on the roof.
And I said, well, what's the best story in this ladder?
And they said...
One day, a workman left a ladder up there, and he forgot to bring it back down.
And it got, you know, up there for so many years, it took on a religious meaning.
Whenever it was happening, just a ladder.
Someone wants to know if you're aware of the Dr.
Beater tapes from the 70s and 80s.
I love them.
I've made a couple YouTube videos.
I used Dr. Beter's tapes about the gold at Fort Knox that disappeared.
Which the Rockefellers, they like to do this.
So Ian Fleming, when he writes Goldfinger, People go, oh, that's ridiculous.
He's got a train in the book, moving the gold.
It'll take five days, you know, 100 people manhandling it.
And then in the movie, they were just going to put a nuke inside and make it radioactive for 58 years.
Fleming is deliberately trying to just raise the issue.
Hey, when's the last time you checked the gold in Fort Knox?
You won't let anyone in there.
How do you know that the gold's even in there?
Well, the way the Rockefellers do this is they exchange the bars, and they have gold-plated bars replace the real gold bars, and the Germans' gold supply that was stored in New York City, wrong idea, has been stolen.
I don't know why, you know, the German people haven't declared war in the United States.
You know what I mean?
Close the embassy.
F you, United States.
We want our gold back.
But they've stolen Germany's gold.
And the word is that we don't have any more gold in Fort Knox.
The Rockefellers stole that gold.
Definitely.
That's gone.
Ian Fleming tried to warn us about that indirectly with the gold finger tail.
You see?
Not get himself killed.
You see, I mean, if Ian Fleming wrote a story about the Rockefellers switching the gold bars, that's pretty darn realistic.
You know, then Ian Fleming's dead.
You know, drowns in, you know, his scuba gear out in Jamaica.
You know what I'm saying?
So you have to, in fiction, you have to be sly about it.
Okay, someone wants to know if you're aware of the unacknowledged secret access programs and know anything about them.
Not as much as one of the people...
I am one of the people you don't trust this stuff with.
So the militant comp is not seen privy to let me in on this stuff.
But when I was at Fort Bragg, I had a soldier who was.
And so what I did is I had him set up a phone call.
So I talked to a guy in the continuity of government.
So I interviewed a guy, kind of like Carrie Cassidy here.
Before there was the internet now.
You know, there was only the...
uh am coast to coast right so every that was the only thing that's going on so i was doing my little am coast to coast thing so i interviewed him about it and he's selected because we're all physically fit and all that crazy stuff jump out of airplanes and he was selected as a young stud no family right to guard the gate to the underground bases if you know the country collapses and the uh You know, Illuminati elite need to go underground.
He's going to be a guy who has nothing to lose, a lot to gain because he's got some sexy chick waiting for him in the underground base.
Got the message.
So he's going to guard the thing like a wolf, not let anyone in.
So that's my direct experience with these unacknowledged programs.
They do exist, and they'll pick your young, you know, guy with the Rolex watch.
No, I guess that's dating me now.
But whatever, the Amiga watch, whatever the young people wear these days, it's really cool.
You know, the guy who's got spending money.
Okay.
Someone else wants to know, are there U.S. Marines for the populace, or are they serving as overlords?
What's your opinion on that?
Well, I've done studies, and I've been in the Marine Corps, and whenever you have an all-volunteer force, which is the whole United States military, you have people that want to...
Abide by the rules and be accepted by the bureaucracy and their peers.
So I think the number is 38%.
If the country collapsed, 38% of the U.S. Marines would turn on their citizens.
All they have to do is say that there were terrorists, subversives, and with all of these people in the military who are not adults.
Obviously, I'm putting the finger at myself here now.
You join the military.
You want to do cool stuff.
But we don't have a military populated by people who are just there to get the job done, who are secure in themselves, they're adults, like with the draft.
I don't use the draft, I say National Service, they've got no other choices.
But the point is, since 1969, the U.S. military has been populated by people, I think these are called Georges, this guy that wrote the thing about all volunteer forces.
He's a former lieutenant in the Army.
He's so rough.
The Georges and then there's the Jeffs.
And you want the Jeffs in the military, the people that are just there to get the job done for the two years.
But right now you've got people in the military that want to go along with the system.
So you're going to have at least half the people in the U.S. military will obey the Illuminati or anyone in charge of them turning on the American public.
The only good news is that there's the other half that won't.
And so what would happen is they would go home, the people that wouldn't turn on their American citizens, and hopefully go to their neighborhood, create a neighborhood watch, neighborhood defense force, and they would have supplies, bandages, you know, antiseptic.
Medical supplies are very important.
You know, if a country collapses, we saw this in Yugoslavia, The money doesn't work anymore, but the commodities do.
A lot of people are into gold.
People lose their mind over gold.
I don't seem to be attracted to it.
But you can't eat it, right?
But anyway, I would rather have a pound of rice than a pound of gold.
But anyway, the point is, the water economy kicks in, and the thing that really killed a lot of people in the former Yugoslavia was the lack of soap, disinfectants, you know what I'm saying, antibiotics, So you need to keep stockpiling that stuff.
If there is a hiccup in the economy, you can live it out without having to go off it.
The idea of you take your pound of gold and you're going to exchange it for somebody, and you've got a gun and they've got a gun, I don't see how you're going to get out of there alive with a pound of rice.
I think you're better off having a pound of rice.
You know what I mean?
Fair enough.
Someone wants to know about Gulf War Syndrome and Tanox Biosystems.
I haven't looked into Tanox Biosystems, but I know that the Gulf War Syndrome, I've experienced it myself, is they turn you into a living pin cushion.
Before you deploy, they give you these shots.
And it's cool at first because it's like Star Trek.
You know, the gun, you know, Dr.
McCoy.
Well, after you get like about 30 of them, I'm not feeling so good.
And I remember one of my soldiers, he just went into a corner and says, can I not have any more shots today?
And I said, okay, we're going to put it off for another day.
They tried to shoot you immediately with all these shots.
And we had people die.
We had this one female soldier just die from all those damn shots in this last roundup.
But apparently this Gulf War Syndrome, which is Gulf War I, I was talking about Gulf War II, we had the girl die.
The...
I think it was iodine tablets.
I was lucky I didn't have to take them.
I have a friend of mine who just refused to take them.
But their idea was to get some kind of resistance built up if they were exposed to chemicals.
So your Gulf War Syndrome can be tied directly, I think, to the immunization program the U.S. military gave everybody, which is a lot of it is the anthrax I'm not excusing it.
I'm just saying it's tragic.
Give everyone a spoonful of sugar, someone's going to choke on it and die.
They're using us as guinea pigs for these things and giving us these shots too quickly.
You know, I remember in our anthrax shot, we had to put a Band-Aid on our arm, and then we were in the shower together.
You know, it was a group shower.
You know, we had to make sure we didn't touch each other.
There's all kinds of uglies going on.
So the thing is that the U.S. military has a pot of money and they're doing this, right?
The VA is opposing, admitting culpability, you know, blame for the government in general because it's the U.S. military and their pot of money, not their pot of money, the VA. The VA doesn't want to admit it.
They dragged their feet in many ways by saying, we don't have the data.
Well, they started the spraying programs in Vietnam, and there's no doubt whatsoever that the chemtrails are also concoctions.
They're basically creating, if you want it, Gulf War syndrome in the populace now.
But I'm sure there's no doubt that those same kind of chemical concoctions went into the Gulf War.
Over there as well.
So we're talking about Agent Orange and various concoctions.
The only thing is that the problem I have is I do believe everyone should do two years of national service.
Can we do it without all the shots, please?
Because you need the skills.
Well, I hope so.
And, you know...
I remember just a few months ago, someone couldn't even get their kid in public school, apparently didn't have the shots needed to go to public school.
There's so much bad stuff in those shots, it's unbelievable.
Listen, Jason Bourne, author, was killed, talking about Ludlin, what?
Right.
So, do you want to elaborate on that?
You've done it on other shows, but someone maybe would like that.
Oh yeah, you can easily go to Wikipedia and see the nasty thing that would happen.
Apparently, and I'm glad they brought it up.
This is very important.
I forgot about the handler.
The handler can also be a live-in handler.
Yeah.
It doesn't just have to be your book agent, you know, your media agent.
That's right.
You can actually have a live-in in that Ludlam hat.
You know, he's a horny man.
You know, we all like beautiful women.
So they hooked him up with this woman.
The family thinks she was a gold digger.
I think a little more nefarious than that.
And she's a handler, and she basically set him on fire.
You know, he's drinking something and smoking or something, and, oops, you're on fire!
And he died just before 9-1-1, you know, 2001.
Now, what is he writing about that could get him killed?
He's basically...
Took John Ainsworth Davis' story, which was published by Brian Garfield.
The book's called The Paladin.
It's a mixture of his true life story with some fiction.
He liked the story very much.
I've got a YouTube video on it doing the compare and contrast.
Ludlam gets Jason Bourne from Jad.
So Ains Bond, Jad, Christopher Crichton, friend of Ian Fleming, busted Martin Borman out, actually is the inspiration for Jason Bourne.
So a lot of people like Jason Bourne better than James Bond is more physical, less gentlemanly.
Well, they all come from the same pot.
Well, I would also like to say that the Jason Bourne story is our story.
This is all about humanity, you know, having amnesia and trying to find out who we truly are.
So the analogy, you know, is massive.
And the other thing about that is that it also hints at the super soldier program.
And it does set the enemy as the state.
So this is rare.
You're no popular with the deep state.
Right?
Yeah.
No.
And so, you know, that's the best thing about those movies.
I love those movies.
You know, And, of course, they tried to get rid of Matt Damon because they didn't want to pay him the real money.
And then they realized their mistake and now they brought him back, which is a good thing in my opinion.
So my cat is just saying hello.
He said, hi, Mr.
Bond cat, Mr.
Bigglesworth.
So the thing is that you've got the sheeple, you know, I don't want to be derogatory, but the majority of the people are sheeple, happy to be on a little ranch.
Being hypnotized, soft hypnotized, sure, by television and radio and the media in low frequency modulated, you know, electromagnetic signals.
The question is, are they also being given information, Sniglets, you know, messages like do not question 911 or conspiracies are always bunk, you know, these little subliminal messages in their head.
And so...
There's a possibility you could watch a Jason Bourne movie, read the book, and not be on the hypnosis, and you might realize that it's happening to you.
They definitely put him in the crosshairs.
Okay, so you kill off Robert Ludlam.
He's a combat vet, too, so there's, you know, trust there.
You can trust this guy that he's a real deal.
He's not just making this up out of whole cloth.
So, Get rid of him before 9-1-1.
You know, he could have been on their list.
We've got to get rid of this guy before we have the 2001 because he might write about it.
Yeah, I think that's a good point.
These guys are flicking chess and we're playing checkers.
Yeah, exactly.
Somebody says something interesting here.
He says the troops are too close to Mecca and that could cause World War III. Any thoughts on that?
Well, of course, you know, Mecca is the cube, right?
That was a pagan temple with 360-plus gods, you know, before Mecca.
Muhammad created, you know, Islamism, you know, the moon worship.
So...
Yeah, but I've also heard that Muhammad didn't create that, actually, that he was put up to it by the Catholic Church, but that's a whole other ballgame.
You know, that's when you get into the religious conspiracy thing, too.
And so it's been there a long time, and it's a visible symbol.
And if we're there, and it were something bad were to happen to it, and, you know, I don't want to give the bad guys any ideas...
But if we're nearby, we can always be blank.
That's one of the problems of having American troops on Saudi soil.
In the first place, is that anything bad happens, you know, you just draw a circle on the map and say, could we reach that?
Of course, the answer is, you know, obviously globally we can reach anything.
But, you know, convenient fall guy for the whole thing, to which I would say just rebuild another one if it trips your trigger.
You know, they've already renovated the thing anyway.
How much of the thing is really that genuine, you know, artifact from a long time ago?
Right.
It's just a convenient excuse.
And so what I want to do is always have a mobile offshore base.
I think if we had these mobile offshore bases, we wouldn't need the troops to be on soil of, you know, Muslim countries.
It's a giant oil platforms that are connected together.
It can move at seven miles an hour.
Is it vulnerable?
Yeah.
Is it as vulnerable as an aircraft carrier?
Not as much.
Is it more vulnerable than a land base?
Yes, but you're not irritating the people.
So we should be doing that.
If we had a decent moral military, we'd already gotten rid of all of these land bases from Saudi Arabia, other countries that are giving us the harbor, and we'd be on these mobile offshore bases, you know, giant runways and living spaces that float and move.
There's always a technological solution to these problems that the Illuminati want to have in play, which is we're pissing off these Islamic people around the world when we don't need to.
Okay, well, there's a deeper thing going on there than just pissing them off.
This is an age-old war, but that's a whole other discussion.
We've been going for two hours, so we're really at the cutoff time at this point.
Ian Fleming plug-in.
When he was trying to denounce Nazism, he had a thing called Political Warfare Executives.
If we had an OSS and a well-run military, we would have a PWE showing the inconsistencies between these violent Islamic people and what the Koran is saying.
And look, there's points of agreement here.
You know what I'm saying?
We'd be doing that.
That's what Ian Fleming did with fascism.
You know, radio-free Islam.
We should have something like that to diminish this and get its generation off this...
You know, rock star AK-47 nonsense.
You know, the whack-a-mole that's going over there in the Middle East.
A rock star for 15 minutes with ISIS, CIA, ISIS. You see what I mean?
There's other ways to be a rock star than blowing things up and killing people.
Okay, Mike, thank you so much for coming on the show tonight.
It's been great to have you, and we had good sound for once in the past.
It's been very difficult with you, so this worked out.
I'm very happy about that.
Thanks, everyone, for watching, and have a great weekend.
Like I say, next Wednesday, I'll be having Tony Gosling on the show.
We'll be talking about the Bilderberg event that's upcoming in June.
1st of June, 4th of June, something like that.
So, last parting words, Mike, before we let you go.
Right.
Be on the lookout for Secretary of Defense James Mattis if he's going to drop in and say hi to his buddies at the Bilderberg meeting.
And if you do, you're going to get an autograph.
Okay.
Say, I love Bilderbergs.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
I have a picture of James Mattis ready for that.
Say, can I have your autographs there?
There you go.
All right.
Listen, Mike.
Take care, okay?
All right.
It sounds like we had a good interview for a take.
Get it?
Sounds?
Yep.
That's right.
Exactly.
All right.
So you take care.
All right.
Good night.
Bye-bye.
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