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April 12, 2017 - Project Camelot
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MARIA WHEATLEY : SACRED SITES & OUR UK TOUR
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Thank you.
Hi, everyone.
This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, where We're back again with Maria Wheatley.
We have tried to reboot and start over again.
It looks like we've got her and I think that we're going to be able to actually get her online here and if you'll just bear with me, I will bring her on the screen.
Maria, There you are.
Please say hi to everyone and let's get this going again.
Yes, technical things.
That's the problem of sometimes going live, but the fun of going live as well.
Yeah, hi.
It's good to be here on Project Camelot and I'm looking forward to the tour that we're going to do with some wonderful ancient sites in the UK and to discuss some earth energies and some active ley lines at the moment.
Lovely.
So we were just about to give sort of an introduction and your background.
So can you talk a little bit about that and how, you know, you sort of grew up dousing and maybe explain a little bit what that meant to you and why I think you were taught by your father.
Isn't that correct?
That's right.
I mean, I've really spent half my life dousing and exploring ancient sites in Europe and in the British Isles as well and really getting to know the Earth energies and recognizing how they've changed as well since like the 80s and the 90s over the decades, which has been quite a journey in itself.
So yes, I grew up with my father teaching me how to douse, visiting ancient sites, and then I had an interest in astrology and Past life regression as well, and I've done tours with Dolores Cannon, and I'm interested as well in the ancient history of this land through the Druids, for example, and the Celtic culture.
So I really do feel connected to the sites through the long journey that I've had with them.
Excellent.
So when you're doing the dowsing, for example, because I don't know, I have a special interest in Because I feel energies myself in my hands, I'm curious about your process doing the dowsing, and I'm sure that the audience would also be curious.
Can you talk a little bit about what process do you go through when you're dowsing a site, or anywhere for that matter, and is your process, for example, different than other dowsers, etc.?
Well, that's a really good start actually because it really does get us going on what and how to douse.
My method of dousing is a combination of using your body to recognize different types of earth energy and also a dousing rod.
Because I've also been taught by European master dowsers and Chinese geomants, I kind of combined the Eastern approach and its philosophy to our Western understanding of dowsing.
So, for instance, if I doused an ancient site or if I doused even your home, for example, The first thing that I would do is I'd walk through each room or I'd walk through the landscape trying to get my body to feel the energies there because I was taught to douse by this is say underground water, this is a ley line, this is a grid line, let your body feel it and see which part of your body recognizes that so you can interpret that line.
So say, for example, I'm walking through a site or somebody's house and I feel, ah, that could be a grid line.
That could be the curry net.
That could be underground water.
So I start to understand the energies long before I begin to douse.
So a bit like yourself, because I know you're very sensitive to earth energies, Carrie, I allow sort of my body and my hands to contribute to it.
Then the douse inside of it with the, I use a metal copper L-Rod, It can also indicate what sort of energy is beneath my feet or above me if it's an aerial type of energy because you get earth energies and you get aerial energies as well.
So it's a combination of the body and the rod and walking around sight and trying to understand its energetic frequencies.
Okay, fascinating.
I think it will be so much fun to actually do this with you in a live environment, so to speak.
And so that's what we're going to be doing with our tour and being able to sort of see you in action, I guess, is what we're talking about, right?
Well, we're going to go to so many different varied sort of sites.
For example, we're going to go to some really well-known ones like A3 Henge, like I said earlier.
It is the largest stone circle in the world.
And we're going to go to Stonehenge, which is iconic and everybody looks at that.
We're also going to go to some lesser known sites where we can really have a special kind of connection there because there'd be less tourists there.
And we're going to go to a very divine feminine site called Stanton Drew.
And we're going to go to the Rollwright Stone Circle as well, which retains its circular shape.
So we can look at how a stone circle behaves in its circular shape compared to more of a ruinous one.
So we'll be travelling through, all in all, when we go to other sites like Huffington, we'll touch on in a moment, spanning 5,000 years of human history within the landscape, because we'll be looking at the Druid culture of Huffington through the Iron Age, as well as the Bronze Age stone circles and the Neolithic long barrens.
Oh, fascinating.
So, in terms of the way you, you know, I know you went to Greece, or I think you went to Greece late, you know, recently.
And what were you doing there that relates to perhaps what we may be doing?
What I was doing in Greece, I went to the Acropolis and Delphi, focusing on those two sites, to really have a look at the energies and how they can influence our bodies, where in our bodies they can influence us, and really trying to connect with the historical past there,
because a lot of the ancient sites were associated with very deep underground waters, which in a way, homeopathic You know, homeopathy principle is rather that water contains memory.
So some people interact with an ancient site through the kind of Akashic record of the ancient deep underground waters there.
So we were looking at an ancient site from underground with all of its water energy, the earth energy that's there, and the remarkable thing about Delphi, one particular grid system which was discovered by a German physicist, in the 80s actually so not that long ago was believed to come in at an angle which is about 45 or 50 degrees east of north and it was found that when it was looked at in the landscape a lot of churches and ancient sites
were aligned upon it but specifically within the design canon of the church itself the pulpit where you know the vicar or the priest would speak from was exactly on that line so that line is thought to be a communication line linked with the planet Mercury for example activates the throat chakra and the reason why the pulpits on it it's the so-called word of God so Delphi being an oracle temple people used to go from there from all over the known
world And it is definitely an oracle temple because it's on that communication grid line.
So we found that quite fascinating.
Oh wow, that sounds great.
So you led a tour there, is that correct?
I was with a private tour rather than a large tour.
Okay, fair enough.
Actually, I think small tours are the best kind in my experience.
And I can say there's a lot less, you know, waiting around, getting in line and all that kind of thing that you get in a very large tour.
I took around, I think it was 15 people, myself included, to Egypt during the 2012 period.
You know, whole thing that went on then.
And we had a great time.
And it was an excellent sort of way to tour as well as I brought speakers with me.
Some of those 15 were actually speakers.
So you can appreciate that.
It was a unique situation in which we could really look at the sites, meditate at the sites, etc., That's right, Kerry.
I think that's very important to really make a connection to the site.
Because in the kind of ancient lore of this land, seen through the Celtic eyes, it was about connecting to the spirit of place, connecting to the ancestors, connecting to the old gods, connecting yourself to an ancient site.
So it's always nice to have that peaceful, calm energies whenever you interact with the sites.
And magical things can truly happen.
Excellent.
That's for sure.
Now, can you talk a little bit about your background with Stonehenge?
Because I know that there's a lot going on with that.
Stonehenge has always fascinated people over the centuries from, you know, the 1700s when William Stookley first started to record the site through modern-day archaeologists.
My association with Stonehenge is I look at it through the first phase which is 3000 BC when it was a Neolithic site and I really look at it through different eyes because The first phase of Stonehenge, for instance, had 56 bluestones in a circle surrounded by a ditch and a bank.
That's called a henge, the ditch and the bank.
So inside of that beautiful chalk white round circular henge bank, you have the 56 bluestones, highly polished, so much so that they looked like the star-spangled sky because the bluestones have little specks of feldspar in them that look like stars.
and it was aligned to the south and entrance and that's where the moon reaches its zenith at midnight and the heel stone and its entrance to the northeast in its first phase aligned to the moon's batonic cycle at its mid-swing position so initially Stonehenge was a lunar temple and presumably the ancients would have worshipped there at night And what did these people look like?
I went on to discover that they had more elongated skulls.
But then, you see, around 2500 BC, those blue stones were dismantled and the Stonehenge that we're so familiar with came into being.
But they widened those entrances, especially the one in the northeast, so it made it align more to the mid-summer sunrise.
But the most accurate alignment at Stonehenge is to the moon, as most archaeoastronomers will inform us.
Let's say something in Earth time.
It is accurate enough to the midsummer sunrise, but its lunar association is far, far more accurate.
So I see Stonehenge going from a goddess culture at night, celebrating the different phases of the moon through its metonic cycle to a Bronze Age solar site.
Oh, wow.
Okay, so that's a different take on Stonehenge than we normally hear.
So we're going to be going there on our tour, correct?
Yeah, that's right, yes.
Private access within the center of the stone circle.
Excellent.
And in terms of bringing people there, they have new rules and regulations.
I wonder if you can kind of talk about that and are we going to have special permission to go into the site or do they even allow that anymore?
Well, that's right.
Most people go to Stonehenge in sort of like office hours, if you will, say 9am to 5pm, 6pm in the summer with the lighter nights here in the UK. And you have to go on a bus and you're allowed anywhere near the stones.
It's a bit like going around a stately home.
You have a cordoned off area.
So you see the stones from about 200 metres away.
If you have private access, which we've applied for and it's been accepted, you can go into the very centre of Stonehenge so you can get to experience the energies on the inside, which is so, so much different from the outside.
Now here's the thing about Stonehenge.
It's a sunrise monument.
Well, at least it was in the Bronze Age.
It was, like I said, the avenue was widened and it was aligned to the mid-summer sunrise.
But English Heritage encourages you to go around counter-clockwise, anti-clockwise, which is the solar-wise, clockwise route around it.
So you're kind of going against the grain at Stonehenge, which a lot of modern-day Druids have pointed out to English Heritage.
Now, the security guards allow you into the sacred inner sanctity of the temple of Stonehenge.
Through a kind of weak point which is a damaged stone.
What I do on my tours and what we'll be doing is we'll be going in the footsteps of our ancestors and we'll be walking into Stonehenge through the correct way as our ancient ancestors did.
So I think that's very important to recognise the historic value of how an ancient site was used such as Stonehenge.
And when you get into the inside, the remarkable thing is, if you're stood outside of the stone circle, and we're going to play some acoustic games there, and it's really good, because if you're just outside of the large sarsen stones and you're on the inside, you can't really hear people talking on the inside, but you're not that far away, really.
Because even though Stonehenge looks quite big, it's quite an intimate site.
It's only around 98 feet in diameter, for example, whereas Avery Henge containing that massive stone circle is over a thousand feet in diameter.
That's the difference between Avery and Stonehenge.
Oh, wow.
Okay, so in terms of these sort of what I'm saying, these rules and regulations, so you feel that we can kind of get around the situation.
Is that sort of the gist of it?
That's right.
We've got private access for one hour within the sanctity of the stone circle.
We will not be viewing it as the general public will.
We have private access, special permission to interact with the stones on the inside.
There will be a security guard there.
There always is, no matter who goes, even when open.
Obama went.
There was a security guard there.
But yes, so we will have private access and it does make all of the difference to interact with the monuments like that.
So why do you think that Stonehenge has become such a focal point for the powers that be and why they have sort of, I guess you might say, messed with it so much, you know,
interfered with people visiting it, they reconstructed the road around it, etc., etc., All the top security that's been put in place even during the years I've been visiting it, which is I guess over the last four to six years or so.
Can you explain what your theory is on what's really going on behind the scenes?
I see, for example, at the summer solstice, You know, they open it up for everyone to go in and you get a mob of people.
It's a huge number of people.
I think 10 or 20,000 even.
And you can correct me if I'm wrong in terms of the numbers because, you know, I don't remember exactly.
But I also think that there is an issue with what's underground at Stonehenge and black magicians using The energies of summer solstice to sort of suck a lot of the human energy at that time, etc.
So are you familiar with this and what would you say about all of that?
Stonehenge has always been associated with kings, the kings of England, going back to even King Arthur, Uther Pendragon, Vortigin.
So it has this kind of like raw bloodline link.
And what you won't read in the average tourist book about Stonehenge is the first stone that to be raised at Stonehenge wasn't.
It was buried deep below the ground.
And that was in Aubrey Hall number one, for example.
So as much as there's probably above ground Stonehenge, there's a lot going on below ground.
Also, if you put that many people into Stonehenge at the summer solstice, and I went one year, Kerry, probably about five or six years ago now, and there was 33,000 people there, and it was chaos.
It was good fun.
It was a festival thing.
It's almost like disempowering the stones themselves because it's just chaos energy there.
It has been seen by people that camp out near Stonehenge on the tracks there, which English Heritage really don't want.
They want that whole landscape cordoned off.
So at the moment there's two track ways which you can camp on if you feel so inclined and people do.
Now they have noticed, one or two at least, that during the night there are people going into Stonehenge when they're not, well technically they're not supposed to be there which presumably they're doing undercover in the darkness of night for you know ritualistic purposes is clear.
So there is that side of Stonehenge as well.
It is surrounded by military establishments.
It's on a direct lay that links to Boscombe Down Base, which once housed nuclear weapons, for example, go in the other direction on another lay line, and it links to Porton Down, our nuclear biological centre, where UFOs have seen to enter that Hangar that they have there and they're building more underground porting down now.
So all of these lays that are radiating out from Stonehenge all have military bases on them or biological nuclear centers which have connected into the hub of Stonehenge.
Absolutely.
So yes, thank you for all that, because that is a fascinating side of what we're looking at here.
And I know that the people listening would be curious about all of that.
So in terms of where you're going with your research, Do you have any specific areas that are new to you or new areas of maybe exploration or investigation that you can share with us?
Yes, I mean, I've been investigating the people of Stonehenge and the people of the ancient world and France, for example, because I think the monuments that they left us are spectacular, but we can lose sight of who used them and maybe what they were used for.
So I've been investigating the people of the landscape and that has come up with a few surprises.
Because they had some very unusual rights that they were kind of integrating into their everyday life.
I mean, when we think of mummies, for example, we turn instantly to Egypt or Peru to a certain degree.
But they were in the Bronze Age, our ancient ancestors mummifying some particular people of the ancient Bronze Age.
And they would bind them so that their ligaments would remain quite intact.
Then after a period of time, when the ligaments started to wear away, they would get some round jet rings and make the skeleton a hole by inserting string into these holes so that there was a place where some of the 500 years, and they were retained within the community.
I mean, we may not treat our deceased like that, but these must have been very special people to have not ever been buried, and they could have been an oracle, for example.
But intriguingly, when I went to Cambridge University, tracking down the elongated skull of what I believe was a Neolithic queen or high priestess of Stonehenge, Roundabout phase one, which was a lunar monument as I've previously described.
The intriguing thing was, I don't know if you've ever been around crystal skulls, Carrie?
Yes, yes, actually.
I was in contact, I did a short video of the crystal skull with, his name is Hedges, I think Mitchell Hedges.
I'm not sure the last, anyway.
Yeah, so yes, I have.
And I've seen a couple others as well.
And a lot of people, and I'm sure that you're sensitive to energy, Carrie, a lot of people feel that there's energy emanating from the crystal skulls themselves, don't they?
Absolutely, no doubt about it.
Yeah, exactly.
So when I was around, and I've been around a few crystal skulls, not particularly large ones, but reasonably large crystal skulls.
So when I went to see the Neolithic queen with the elongated skull at Cambridge University, intriguingly, she had the same energies like a crystal skull.
Sure.
Very interesting.
So you're saying at Cambridge they have a skull.
Is it the whole mummy or is it just her skull?
It's just a skull of an elongated woman that had the largest burial mound in Wessex.
That's the west of England, lots of different counties around Stonehenge.
She had the largest mound ever created.
It was dedicated to just her.
That was very unusual because long mounds, and I'm going to describe them for your audience, a long mound can be up to 300 feet long.
The one end is wider than the other, so it's like a trapezoid shape.
They often have stone inner chambers, and the first phase of these inner stone chambers, and some of which you can stand in like at West Kennet Long Barrow, these chambers were used probably for initiation, acoustics, and then at the final phase, The skulls and the long bones were placed within these chambers.
So that gives you an idea of them.
They're very atmospheric.
And the largest mound was just constructed for this Neolithic queen.
And she got taken out of the burial chambers around about the Victorian era here in the UK. So that's about the late 1800s.
And then she was placed into Cambridge University.
Now, I was in a massive warehouse when I was looking at this skull, and all I could see, it was like a two-story warehouse, was all of cardboard boxes labeled Abydos, Abydos, Abydos, going for as far as the eye could see.
Wow.
That's amazing.
And that's at Cambridge.
That's at Cambridge?
That's at Cambridge University.
Yeah, were you there by special permission?
Because I would love to go see this skull.
When I'm going to be in England, obviously we're going to do our tour, but I'd also, I'd like to see the actual skull you're talking about because when we were in Malta trying to see the skulls there, we had special permission to go behind this museum.
And they were supposed to show us elongated head skulls, but actually they weren't really elongated in the sense that Brian Forrester is demonstrating and has a whole museum full of them.
So I was very interested that they seem to have hidden away, in essence, what are the reportable elongated skulls found in Malta, but they are no longer on display.
And they weren't even, again, in the special permissions area where we were.
So they've hidden them away.
And so you're saying there is one in England, in Cambridge, for this, I guess you're calling, I'm not sure, a Druid queen or something of this nature.
Neolithic High Queen.
Yes, I mean, I've been in touch with Malta.
I've been to Malta a couple of times.
I'm going to Malta next week.
And they are constantly denying that the long skull people existed there.
Let alone show me them.
But I've got the National Geographical magazine of May the 1920s saying that in there.
But here's the thing, Carrie.
If you want to go and see the Neolithic Queen at Cambridge, I've just tracked down in Oxford...
An identical, it's literally a carbon copy of the Maltese Long Skulls and I'm probably going to get private access and special permission to see that and you're more than welcome to come along and I will try and get us access back at Cambridge.
Oh fabulous, that would be great.
You know I don't know if we can wrap this into the tour but if we can do this either before or after the tour it would be awesome.
I don't know if they'll allow filming or not, but to be able to see what we We're trying to investigate and actually have been more or less thwarted, I guess you might say.
And it's great to hear you're going to Malta.
That's fabulous.
What are you going to be doing in Malta?
Because we're thinking of doing another, you know, trip to Malta this year if I can manage the finances.
And, you know, there are so many sacred sites and so many fascinating places on Malta.
So what is it you're going to be looking at in Malta?
We're going to be looking at the main temples of Malta, and we're going to be looking at them through the earth energy perspective.
I know the archaeology about them, obviously, but we're really going to be looking at the energies there because some of the temples really do have a majority of what's called feminine earth energies there, and it is the land of the goddess Malta.
In fact, in the traditional Maltese language, they didn't even have a word for father.
So it is really a kind of very strong feminine goddess energy there.
And we're going to be looking at some of the energies there.
Now, if you go to a lot of the inside altars at these temples of Malta, they're absolutely beautiful.
They're made of limestone and some of them are carved, as I'm sure you're aware, Carrie, and they're carved in sort of like a spiral pattern.
And to the ancients, when you have this spiral pattern with a kind of leaf coming off, a little bit coming off the edge of it, that represents fertility and growth.
But it also mirrors an earth energy pattern that master doubters have often called the tree of life, the harmony of life.
So we'll be looking at it through the symbolism of the carvings and the objects that were placed into these temple spaces, as well as the earth energies beneath the ground and how they can interact with our own bodies.
I also feel that some of the Maltese temples, especially the larger temple spaces there, that they were about a divine conception.
They were about bringing together the male and the female.
For fertility of the mind and the body and consciousness as well.
They really can sort of change how we feel about ourselves as well.
I think once you go into these temple spaces and you come out, you kind of come out a different person.
Absolutely.
You know, I did a documentary, I shot a documentary on Malta and did a number of interviews there as well.
And I've had a couple of small conferences and would love to go back and do all that again.
And it sounds like the two of us should get together and maybe do a tour on Malta for people because I have, of course, different information, but it It's complimentary to have your side of what you investigate and bring the things that I come across.
One of the things that I found in Malta, of course, is the vortex energy, the portals, and the extreme concentration of what seems to be a memory of Atlantis.
And yet Malta would have been, from everything I understand about Atlantis, Which was a huge, actually, worldwide colony at one point, or a number of colonies.
And in essence, Malta seemed to be a sacred place, a place where they hid a number of secret scrolls and other things.
And the Vatican has, of course, taken over Malta in a big way.
There are many religious ceremonies you may be aware of all summer long.
At certain times, they do these...
Sort of Christian drumming ceremonies, which are very strange and very loud.
And they have all these fireworks and so on.
And the various saints are celebrated, as you may know.
So we're bringing in the westernized, to some degree, the Catholic Church, the heavy-duty Vatican influence, and then, of course, the Knights of Malta having a very big fort That's very central to the island and also being central to the history of the island in essence that they defended it at one point from invasion.
So it's not all negative in regard to the Knights of Malta per se.
But there is also my Mark Richards interviews talking about what is in essence he says that a lot of those temples were originally built by ETs.
That they were not even humanoid ETs.
And one of them in particular, I think it's Hajar Im, maybe what Mark was saying was what he calls a raptor temple.
And this is why you get the very low structure.
A human actually, I think, has to even bend over at certain places to get under the ceilings.
And this would not be normal for a temple structure.
The other thing is also that there's a very large Gagentia on the island of Gozo.
And Gozo and Gagentia are an incredibly old, from what I understand, a spaceport where all the ETs would meet.
So these are the kinds of sort of different...
on some of these sites that you're getting and I'm getting and it would be fascinating to sort of join forces.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
I mean, Hadrian is a very kind of, it is, you're right, that you do go into these very small spaces and the rocks are cut out.
I mean, you know, I suggest to your listeners, people watching this, really Google it because they're cut out in kind of like almost a square rectangular shape.
And it is very difficult for somebody to get through there.
And the same thing happens, Kerry, in Sardinia.
Because they have hypogea, deep underground in Sardinia, which are very, very small temple spaces.
And you go through that gap, just like you get in the Maltese temples, through another chamber, into another chamber, into another chamber, and it goes on and on and on, very deep underground.
It's called the...
The place of the fairies, I think, the Dolmish of the fairies in Sardinia.
It's very, very intriguing.
Fascinating.
Yeah, absolutely.
I was just recently told by someone to go to Sardinia, as a matter of fact, that it has a lot of very interesting ancient sites there.
And perhaps has been somewhat off the beaten track or overlooked by a lot of researchers.
So it sounds like you've been there.
Yes, and I'll tell you where.
I can't remember the place offhand.
It will come to me in a moment, Carrie.
But it's a place where there's lots of chambers that have water in them.
You see, the thing about Sardinia is that it's intimately associated with water.
And I think they were practicing a type of hydromancy, you know, really looking into the properties of water through divination and through other aspects.
But here's the thing.
Right at the far corner, near this kind of hydromancy centre, because it had a pool of water in it, there is, and von Däniken missed this, there is a grey carved, a grey face.
Oh, wow.
So when you say a grey face, do you mean an alien grey?
I mean, in an alien grey with the classical almond eyes, it's carved there, and it's probably about a foot by half a foot long, and you can clearly see it.
Now, the other kind of von Daniken characters that we're familiar with, sometimes they have those halos with little kind of spiky bits coming off the top of their heads, and he kind of included that in his very seminal book, Chariots of the God.
Well, there, the other side of the grey there as well, carved on the wall.
Oh, fascinating.
Yeah, I was recently in Sedona and we were shown some rock carvings and there is a little alien being in the carvings and these are very, very old.
I'm wondering how old are the ones in Sardinia?
I mean, if you look into any archaeological book, they have that standard date worldwide, don't they?
3000 BC or 2500 BC. It doesn't matter where you're in the world.
You could be in Egypt, you could be in Stonehenge.
That's the date that you're spoon-fed.
But they're very unique, the energies of Sardinia, because the way they have all been carved, The long barrows there, for example, they have what's called a steel line.
That's a huge archway.
It arches over.
The masonry work is second to none.
But again, it has this unusual feature right at the bottom of this massive stone.
I'm talking about, oh gosh, some of them must be about 18 to 20 feet tall, beautifully carved stone.
And right at the bottom is a very small porthole.
It's tiny.
Hardly anyone could crawl through there, for instance.
And so they called them, labeled them spirit holes.
That's what they're labeled.
But to the whole of the...
Design canon in Sardinia, they always feature these very small holes there.
And what happens is, energetically, if you put your hand one side of the stone and you feel the energy, it kind of comes towards your hand.
So if you put your hand in front of the hole, you feel something going to it.
Now, if you go around the other side, because some of them ruin it, so you go around the other side, then you feel the energy bouncing back to your other hand as well.
And I displayed that with the people I went to Sardinia with, and everybody was astonished.
The thing about Sardinia is, Kerry, which you will fall in love with, is that hardly anyone goes there.
It is a research wonderland that is out there for people like you and I to really have in-depth look at and to bring it to the attention of the world.
Oh, wow.
Fascinating.
Yeah, I mean, it is so interesting.
I am always fascinated.
You know, so many people go to places like Malta, and I would imagine even Sardinia, as we're saying.
And what they do is, you know, they vacation.
But they never go to see a lot of the ancient sites.
They're not even aware of them.
And I think that We have places, especially Malta.
Malta, of course, has a hypogeum, as you're saying.
Sardinia does, which I wasn't aware of.
And underground places, of course, being paramount around the world.
It's like the whole globe is like a catacomb, if you want to call it that.
And when I was at Gobekli Tepe in Turkey, in southern Turkey, and now I don't think people can even go there because the whole area is...
It's sort of part of the war with Syria, so to speak.
But we were there right before the war started, and we were the only Westerners in the entire city of Urfa.
And, you know, this is the kind of thing you're talking about, where we went and we had the entire museum to ourselves, and were able to do in-depth filming.
Because they allowed us, and that's where we got some of these amazing close-ups of these incredible beings that were carved and taken from the site, you know, that Gobekli Tepe and put into the museum.
The museum is a gigantic, very modern edifice and very, very beautiful, actually.
And it was a tragedy, in a sense.
This is a worldwide, you know, find that is being, in a sense, We're sidelined, and God forbid they start bombing southern Turkey.
You know what I'm saying?
Because this is what we're really talking about.
We're talking about hidden archaeology, ancient archaeology that's being sort of pushed to the side, hidden, overlooked.
People will go even touristing, as I say, to the various areas, but never investigate what's really there.
Exactly, and that's where I think, you know, Sardinia will be exalted itself.
Well, one of the other sites of Sardinia that I think, you know, is a must on your bucket list of Sardinia is the Santa Cristina well.
It was made in the Bronze Age, if we're to believe the archaeologists.
Bingo!
Again, 2500 BC is their timeline date for it, but the masonry is so precise.
It's cut at an angle each step and you go down 27 steps, which is a lunar number, to this deep, deep kind of spring pool.
And it has a chevron pathing cut into the masonry at the top.
The chevrons always are related to water, surface water and underground water from whatever culture you're in.
That was a universal symbol.
But every 18.61 years, the moon aligns perfectly to reflect into that pool of water below.
So you're going down these steps.
Could you imagine being there, seeing the moon's reflection in that water?
Must have been an astonishing sight for us today, let alone our ancient ancestors.
So even the water was aligned to...
Because also at that fantastic well, the vernal equinox, the 21st of March and around the 21st to 23rd of September, the sun also aligns and infuses its energy within that water.
So one day I would suggest to go to Sardinia, and it's still warm, is round about the equinox to see this event that most Westerners haven't even read about, let alone seen.
Fascinating.
Yeah, you know, now it just sounds so exciting to go there.
And we'll have to look into that as a possible tour destination as well.
So I don't want to keep you for too much longer.
I'm really glad we finally got this thing off the ground with the problems we're having early on.
Is there anything else that you want to kind of cover?
that we haven't covered in this conversation here because I took you off the beaten path, so to speak.
And it's so fascinating to talk with someone else who does these same kinds of explorations, although you are certainly kind of coming from a little bit different position and And although I, you know, I do go to these places, I get these energies, I get them through my hands.
I'm not a dowser.
And perhaps, you know, our concentrations are different.
Of course, I'm always talking to whistleblowers and getting that kind of a story.
But, you know, people that are, you can, just the average person I found in, for example, in Malta can come up to you and Have a story about something they found out about the situation where they are.
And they may tell us, for example, like one of the things in Malta is that you're not allowed to go down to the hypogeum and you can't, you can no longer, it used to be that anywhere on Malta you could actually Find an opening to the underground and just go in it.
And now they try to block all this off.
But locals who really know their stuff, it's similar in Egypt, will find these sort of hidden channels, hidden tunnels into the underground.
And they will go there.
And so you're probably aware of this type of thing going on in these sort of island places and places that are a bit out of the way.
That's a whole fascinating side of, you might say, the folk culture in these areas where you can get tidbits of information that others don't know about.
And I'm sure you found out.
That's fascinating.
Yeah, that's fascinating.
I mean, you did touch upon, you know, Turkey.
I mean, just before we do go, Carrie, I would like to say how an ancient astrologer saw the sacred center of the ancient world, okay?
He was called Claudius Ptolemy.
He wrote in about AD 137, okay?
And he wrote a very famous book.
He was an Egyptian.
He studied in the Library of Alexandria.
So we can say he was learned.
He was a scholar.
And he was a very good astrologer.
And he used two lines, and I'm going to call them Lays, okay?
Lines of energy, because we have arbitrary lines today, like the Greenwich Meridian Line, dividing the world into East-West, for example, and we have the equator.
Now, to the ancient astrologers, there was two sacred lines.
One went from the north to the south, and it went through Moscow, for example, and it went through Aleppo, yeah?
And this is what the ancient astrologer wrote about in the Alexandrian library.
The other line went east to west, and that too went through Aleppo.
So they saw the esoteric center of the ancient world as Aleppo.
Now, here's the thing about the north-south line.
It goes through Moscow, yeah?
And the east-west one will go quite close to Washington, and it goes on to Tibet.
Now, to the ancient astrologers, that divided the planet into four, and each segment would mean something to the ancient astrologers.
So I really do feel that, you know, those two leis that go through Aleppo were seen in the ancient world to be very, very significant.
It's a sad fact that what's happened in that location today, because maybe in ancient lore, and I've had it in some regressions that I've done on various people, that in Aleppo, where these lines have crossed, recorded by Ptolemy, was an ancient artifact.
You know, that's really fascinating.
Just doing a quick search on the internet, on the Aleppo ley line, finding some interesting information, I can say that it has been my theory and, you know, it's actually based on a lot of research that, of course, most of these wars and attacks and so on are all to do with the hidden, really, war with various ET races.
And so when you get Like the recent bombing of Syria, what is really happening is that something is going on to do with the aliens who are in the area.
Possibly underground, and the U.S. military, and of course the Syrian military, and possibly the Turkish military, etc.
In other words, locals are aware of some of these things, and researchers such as myself, and I get my information from a lot of whistleblowers, one of them being Mark Richards, who has talked about These wars going on behind the scenes.
So you're talking about the ley lines, the energy lines, of which, you know, incoming races and flying in and using certain craft and certain vortexes, certain places where they can easily come into the Earth.
And this is a good thing.
It's also a problematic thing, you can imagine, if the races incoming are not necessarily friendly or if the ones here on Earth That are trying to dominate, you might say, our military and so on,
may not be friendly to the incoming ones, but doesn't mean they're not actually friendly to humans because we have, of course, a huge scenario going on here on planet Earth having to do with who's in charge and whether they're positive for the future of our race or not.
So all of this going on, and then you're bringing up the ley line and the energies there.
I think that's significant and would bear a lot more investigation, and it's fascinating.
Thank you.
Yeah, that's widely documented.
It's in one of the oldest astrology books.
You can look it up yourself.
It's called Tetrabibylos by Ptolemy.
Excellent.
Now, I was just thinking that there are some people in the chat that may want to ask you questions.
Would that be all right if we took a couple minutes and saw if there were any questions in the chat that perhaps we haven't covered those subjects or whatever?
So, just to the audience, if you want to type, preferably in all caps, a couple...
Quick questions, we can ask Maria.
She's here now.
It's a great opportunity for you.
And I'm sort of going to skim the chat, you know, going back here, see if I can grab any questions that someone might have written into the chat.
The reason I ask for all caps is simply to, you know, distinguish between the just chat between the members.
And actually what might concern us and be talking about what we've actually been covering.
So looking for some questions again from From the chat and if there's anyone in the chat that would like to ask Maria anything, she is here.
In the meanwhile, Maria, so do you want to talk while we wait for a couple questions to crop up and if you are coming in here and just...
Quickly, cover maybe your books, where people can find your books, anything you've written, videos, etc., your website, and let people know where these are.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, I've written several books on ancient sites, such as Avebury.
I've written a book about dowsing ancient sites.
A few books about Stonehenge as well, small books.
And I also do fold-out posters of ley lines and earth energies as well of ancient sites from Glastonbury through to Stonehenge and Avebury, all of which can be found on my website, which is the aveburyexperience.co.uk.
My college is still being, we've got badly hacked.
We're rebuilding that and we're getting new logos and everything.
So that's esotericcollege.com.
Coming back soon because you can't keep a good woman down about how bad you hack that.
I'll rise like the phoenix with that one.
So yeah, so have a look.
I'm always, you know, glad for people to have support.
Go on to the Avebury Experience and have a look at Megalithic Energy.
It's an article where I've proved with scientific equipment that the stones emit energy bands, and we've recorded their frequencies, some of which are about 18 hertz, which is just below our ability to hear.
We hear at 20, so I think our ancient ancestors are They have heard the sound of the stones as well as seeing them, for example.
So I've got lots of good articles on ancient sites and ley lines and deep underground water.
So yeah, so check them out.
Excellent.
Okay, now we have a question here.
Somebody wants to know, what happened with the new discoveries tunnels at Stonehenge a few years ago?
I think we covered a bit of that, but do you want to talk, maybe address that a little more?
It's very difficult at the moment to get digs going at Stonehenge.
It's almost like even top archaeologists are finding it very, very difficult because UNESCO, the World Heritage body, if you will, that's looking after them, doesn't really want any more work done at Stonehenge.
I think there is definitely a deep tunnel system that goes through to Stonehenge, way down towards a place called Durrington Walls, which was a superhenge.
And also, I feel that there was other avenues that linked to Stonehenge as well.
So I think that the whole site does need a look at with fresh eyes and that's what I'm doing for my next book.
I found some new discoveries.
I'm working in conjunction with a mathematician and we're looking at all of the harmonic values to do with earth energies and we've even changed some earth energies into sound so we can see ancient sites through lots of different disciplines.
Excellent.
Okay.
Let's see.
There's another one here.
Have you been to Lampedusa, which is west of Malta?
No, I haven't.
What's there?
Does the chat say?
Yeah, Lampedusa.
Not sure.
What country are you saying?
So it's not on the islands of Malta.
Is this an island?
I'm not familiar with that name.
Maybe they can clarify while we answer another question here.
Do you think chemtrails are hiding planets?
That's a really good idea, actually.
I mean, one thing that I've noticed about chemtrails in this area, when I wrote a book called Every Sun, Moon and Earth Energies, and it was looking at the sun positions to do with, you know, the earth energies, and I took some wonderful sunset pictures.
Should I have done that book today?
That was 10 years ago.
I wouldn't get those sunset shots because the chemtrails are blocking off the alignments of the ancient sites.
You just can't get it.
Fascinating, yes.
And the chemtrails are really bad in England as well, especially in the greater London area that I've been in at least.
And they've been hard at work everywhere really, but certain areas I think have concentrations.
Let me see, somebody wants to know, do you think, where do the fallen angels come into play?
I mean, fallen angels is kind of a wide category, depending on how you want to interpret that, but Nephilim might be another word for it, but go ahead and answer it your way.
Well, I feel they are related to some of the ancient sites.
Now, you see, when you kind of go through the excavation period, especially of the long barrens, for example, Most of them were dug out hundreds of years ago, but there are some very, very strange burials that I am sure are related to fallen angels.
One type of being or creature that was found very close to Stonehenge was described by the excavator to have had eyes on top of her head, To have a tail as well.
And this being, this creature, whatever you want to interpret it, also had its hands around the human beings as well.
So I think there is direct evidence in the Stonehenge environment.
And where are those bones?
It's very hard to try and track these finds down, but I've got the actual written archaeological first-hand report of these very strange burials, and I'm sure that they are associated with alien burials.
Fascinating.
In the landscape, that's in the landscape, on the lays as well.
I could even point it out, when we're at Stonehenge, I will bring that archaeological report and even point out the very strange burials and they seem to be an arc around Stonehenge.
Fascinating.
My understanding is also, I could be wrong, but I thought a while back they found some Egyptian relics, supposedly, under Stonehenge.
But that seemed to got hushed up.
I don't know if that was a hoax or what.
There have been some.
Egypt is linked to Stonehenge.
They have definitely found beads linked to Stonehenge.
You know, like sometimes with the mummified peoples of Egypt, they have those little, I can't think what they're called, where some of the organs would go in sometimes.
They have been found around Stonehenge as well.
Just down the road from Stonehenge, probably about a mile away.
So there are definitely links there.
And again, anything that is found will go to a box in a university and then whether that is ever written about depends on the nature of the archaeologists.
They are stored and they are labelled and they become a scheduled monument.
And it's very difficult for a person or an author or a researcher to get access to these artifacts as well.
It's very difficult.
Yeah, that reminds me because I have done some investigations around England and I can tell you that there is an Egyptian museum in a university.
Actually, I don't know if it's the University of London or what.
But in this university, we went there to see the Egyptian Museum, and apparently it's a very old one, and found out from somebody who was sort of there showing people around and so on, that actually 90% of what was on the floor for display was actually the real stuff, 90% was hidden.
And it was in their archives.
And so this is the kind of thing you're talking about.
And I know Hugh Newman, who you know as well, who is also going to be speaking at my conference again in the UK, which is June 24th and 25th, let me say.
Awaken Aware UK happening this June again.
And a wonderful speaker lineup.
Everything's on events.
The events tab on my website.
So that includes...
My tour with Maria and then my Awake and Aware conference where she's speaking as well for two days, a weekend in June 24th and 25th.
So if you happen to be in the UK, that's going to be a great opportunity.
Nonetheless, Hugh Newman also talked about finds in America being hidden in, you know, as he started to investigate the giants, you know, all over America.
And finding that the Smithsonian was instrumental in hiding a lot of things, and things that will never come see the light of day, apparently, or at least not until the far future, when some of this cover-up is broken down.
So this actually seems to be a pattern of what we see, where finds are hidden.
Now, somebody here is asking, what is dousing?
And so why don't you describe, you know, the literal, how you use, you know, some people use rods and some people use pendulums and other things.
Can you describe the actual mechanics for this person?
Yeah, well what is dowsing?
Dowsing is using a tool like what's commonly called an L-rod.
It's an L-shape which you hold like this.
Or some people use a pendulum which is on a cord or a chain and it could be a crystal or it could be a piece of wood.
So you have a dowsing instrument, normally a pendulum or L-rods or the old-fashioned Y-rod to find underground water.
And it is so easy to do.
You just hold a pair of dowsing rods or one rod and let's say you just walk forward holding the rods parallel to the ground.
That's called search mode.
So if I've got two rods in front of me like this and I walk ahead, that's search mode.
As soon as the rods cross like this or say they go away like this, that's called repulse rods, it means you've found something.
The most common thing people start to find when they first start dousing is underground water, for example.
So really the rod is just detecting something that's under the ground that can be easily found through when the rods cross.
So that's dousing.
And you can use dowsing as well to ask questions.
You could ask dowsing to show you the direction of the nearest lay.
That's called directional dowsing.
So if I had, I've got a pen here, I don't know if you'll be able to see.
I could say if this was my dowsing rod, show me the direction of the nearest lay, and my rod would point to a direction.
That's directional dowsing.
Then I would follow the direction of my rod.
And it's just like a bit of a guide.
It may weave around a little bit.
And that's called tracking.
So when I'm following where my dowsing target is, that's called tracking.
And when the rods cross again, bingo, you found it.
So really, dowsing is just...
Ask in the direction of something, tracking, following it and finding it and we can find so many different things that affect our health in our own homes because there was a German survey done of over 8,000 people and it was discovered that a third of all hospital admissions in Germany over a A four-year period were due to geopathic stress and that's toxic earth energy,
one of which is called the curry net.
People can Google that and that can influence our bodies to the point where it will kind of bring out whatever detrimental in your DNA. That could be a cancer, it could be arthritis, whatever.
It makes you prone to an illness, if you will.
So we can use dowsing to improve the state of our health, our homes, and it is really very easy to do.
Go out and buy some dowsing rods and just walk around the garden or a park or the landscape.
Your rods will cross and I bet you that's going to be a grid line or underground water so everyone and anyone can douse.
The key to good dousing is just really being able to interpret that which you douse and that's where I teach a I do home study courses with Esoteric College, even though my website's off at the moment.
You can contact me by emailing Maria Wheatley at AOL.com and I can give you some advice on dowsing courses and within seven Skype lessons I can turn you into a fantastic dowser that can douse for grid systems, ley lines, earth energies, Ying water, Yang water, there's two different types of water and some other earth energies besides.
So it's easy to do and everyone can do it.
So yeah, it's very simple.
Excellent.
It's really wonderful, your knowledge in these areas.
I think, you know, that was a great explanation, I think, for anyone.
One last question, then we're going to let you go.
Ancient races in the area, the Fae, etc.
Well yes, that's long been recorded that the 2 Arthur Day Danann came down from the heavens and became the rulers of ancient Ireland.
So again, there's this intimate connection with ancient sites because their capital was Tara, this massive hill in Ireland.
Which then became associated to the royal bloodline because kings used to be crowned or inaugurated at these sites.
So once they've been associated with the Fae, the two Arphadet Danann, they eventually went underground into the mounds, for example.
So the ancient sites, the landscape and the royal bloodline, they're all interwoven into one, the ancient sites themselves.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Well, this is great information, and it's really been a delight to have you on the show.
I'm so glad it worked out with the whole logistics.
So let's move forward.
You're going to be speaking at my conference in June.
You've got various tours you're doing, I see, on your website up there.
Until then, you're obviously very active, and I hope your other website gets on its feet very shortly.
My website was just shut down for four days as well, so I know the problems that you are encountering.
So anyway, it's going to be great to do a tour with you of the ancient sites in the UK, and I think everyone would agree that you are going to be a fabulous tour guide, and I think maybe the two of us Might be quite a good team in this regard, and it would be a lot of fun.
So if you want to buy tickets to that, and actually we're selling tickets for this tour.
You can come for a day, and you can drive yourself to the site, and that's probably the most inexpensive way to do the tour.
On the other hand, you can join us for all the eight days.
Stay in the hotels and join us on the bus and stay with the group that way.
And that's obviously going to be a little more expensive.
We're really not trying to make money on this tour.
We're trying to pay the bus driver and the hotels and so on and so forth.
But I can say that it's under the circumstances, really, the prices we have to charge.
And you can go to my website and buy tickets.
And you can buy tickets for several days or for the whole time.
So we tried to make it as flexible as possible for people in the UK and visitors to the UK who might want to join us.
So thank you everyone for watching.
Any parting words, Maria, that you'd like to share with the audience before we leave?
Well, I think, you know, we have a disconnect with our planet.
So my advice is, you know, just whenever you can, kick your shoes off, stand on the ground, breathe in and reconnect to Gaia and the Earth energies.
Excellent.
Okay, very good advice.
And I have to second that notion.
And I have to say to everyone that going into nature every day is a great way also to clear the electronic smog away and to help your psychic ability and also heal you.
So it's great advice.
Thank you again, Maria.
Take care.
And thanks, everyone, for watching.
Okay?
Thank you.
Okay.
Take care.
Good night.
All right.
Bye-bye.
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