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Nov. 3, 2016 - Project Camelot
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EMILY WINDSOR-CRAGG - DECEIT & HUMAN SOCIETY
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Thank you.
I've actually interviewed her in the past.
Her name is Emily Windsor Craig and she is, well, a fascinating woman and she has a great deal to share with us today about some investigations she's been doing into our ancient history.
And I'm going to read her brief bio here for you.
It's also on my website, projecthemlotportal.com.
So if you're interested in taking a look at it, you can go over there and I'll also share it here on the screen.
For those that like to sort of see what I'm going on about.
So she was born in World War II and adopted out of her birth families, grew up in a Zionist communist movement of the radical left.
She's trying to figure things out and this is the story of her life.
She tried many spiritual paths, married, divorced a few times, birthed five kids over 23 years, Worked as an instructor at Xerox and Geo Washington University.
George Washington University, I imagine that means.
She attended the university in the 80s and 90s and completed a master's in conflict analysis and communication.
She had her own software startup in the early 90s called Play Technologies, Inc., Which failed to gain funding.
I know what that's like.
Let's see.
She was radicalized during the Clinton administration by the university's focus on globalism and the effects on human life of HR practices, gaslighting by corporations.
And she wrote a small political theory newsletter when she lived on Capitol Hill called Just Now.
She was red-listed in 1998 and spent the next seven years running from gang stalkers.
She's penned six books on cosmology and community development, hosted radio at Blog Talk Radio for several years, and is writing a seventh book called Where Do We Go From Here?
And I've got her links on my website if you want to see her Facebook and YouTube as well as one of her websites.
So, That is the short story and it's fairly detailed actually for a bio and so now I'd like to introduce everyone to Emily and Emily put you on the screen here and say hello and perhaps you can augment that bio a bit with your own sort of short history of sort of how you came to do the kind of work you're doing now as opposed I mean we've got kind of a look at your past but why are you
here now?
Why am I here now?
I'm still trying to make sense of things now that I'm in my seventies and have some time and I have been kind of disturbed by the chaos between spiritual paths and ideologies and my masters is in conflict analysis so I decided to try to make to synthesize a single timeline out of all the books that
I showed you in my bibliography and um and so that's my life goal is to explain life to myself and it makes sense of where we are politically and spiritually and physically and I want to just understand it all.
Put it all together.
And for the past year, I've been working on a TV series with New Dimensions TV and Richard Williams that pulls all of the history together with the archaeology and the anthropology and the ideology.
And I put that aside for a little while in order to get the larger picture of it My mentors have been the late Lloyd Pye, the late Roger Lear, and Michael Tellinger quite a bit.
And the books that I have studied in depth.
Believe it or not, Ashiana Dean has done the only work that I have been able to find.
I know you interviewed her at least once, and she's fascinating to listen to.
if you can keep hold because she talks so fast but her Voyager series are the beginning of the story of this planet because the Bible doesn't go back that far the Urantia book doesn't go back that far none of the other books go back as far as she does and so that's where the story begins where according to Her
Voyager's account, and which makes sense to me, the first two seedings of life here on this life platform failed because of wars, because the indigenous populations being peaceable and law-abiding and intelligent and having 12 strands of DNA and yada yada,
they were no match for the predatory races that came here to Get what they wanted.
That's absolutely right and very astute.
A good summary.
Absolutely.
Okay, so the reason that I can look into this is not only because of the books, but personally I'm a soul incarnate of one of the Anunnaki bloodlines.
And so I have telepathic contact with that bloodline.
Not that everybody in that bloodline agrees together or with me but I'm part of the bloodline of King Nanar N-A-A-N-A-A-R who was the Anunnaki king who died in late 2012 okay so I have access to their stuff now in 2007 in Iran an Anunnaki Royal
was dug up who was in stasis and I don't know if you've seen his pictures online.
A very extremely handsome guy who has apparently been revived.
There were two other Saracophagi that were collected when they found him.
One had an elder gentleman who didn't make it and the third one was not revealed who it was and I believe now I can't validate this or verify it but I believe that that Anunnaki was Durgal and that the other Saracophagus was his wife Ereshkigal and that that's where my connection is with Ereshkigal because I discovered some coincidental
things about myself that Related exactly to her life.
So she's my connection to the Anunnaki.
Okay, now let me slow you down one minute here.
So you think that an Anunnaki sarcophaga guy, as you're calling him, I think, you think they were revived?
I don't think that's common knowledge.
Was that a YouTube video you saw and you believed it?
Yes, I've seen...
several references to that YouTube video and also I've seen references to the secret space functions that have been carried out in Iraq and in Syria and Iran particularly in Iraq when Our soldiers went in and destroyed their museum.
We're all familiar with that, but I'm still going to bring you back to this idea of somebody being revived and being in the news.
The Anunnaki gentleman on YouTube in several videos, and they do not show him conscious.
They show him just lying in the sarcophagus, but somebody pinches him And his flesh is very fresh and he has hair on his chest and he has a beautiful red beard.
Oh, he's handsome as all get-out.
And what is the name of this person?
Well, it isn't given because he wasn't conscious when they took the video showing the discovery of this man in stasis with a tube in his mouth so that he was breathing to some extent.
but I believe my contacts have told me that that's Nergal and in the sarcophagus that they didn't show that his wife Ereshkigal was there also there are some total let me get this book out in the emerald tablets of Thoth and now Thoth was the son of Ereshkigal And
Enki, they had, Enki raped Ereshkigal, and they had Ningishida.
Ningishida was the techie who designed the pyramids at Giza.
And Enki lived because, you know, the Anunnaki have mastered the fourth dimension.
They mastered eternity.
They do not age.
So for a long time, Ningishida served the Anunnaki as a technician, but later on he became top who kept and promulgated the emerald tablets for particularly for ancient Egypt You know that there is a lot of controversy over who did what and
who played what roles in this sort of echelon, right?
So I appreciate how you're laying this out, but this is not necessarily agreed upon.
Exactly.
This is the way I've been able to lay it out, and I'm open to being corrected.
Okay, no problem.
I'm certainly no expert on this, but I know about it.
But identifying these players and being sure of who is doing what...
You are saying some things that are different than, let's say, the Zachariah Sitchin material and some other people.
I've actually, I can't forget the investigator's name offhand that I interviewed, but there's another guy who does, and he's got a whole other group of people that he sort of identifies.
So it does get quite confusing, but continue.
It gets confusing.
Just to clarify that for the people.
I'm open to Other resources, and if you want to turn me on to other resources that question what I'm doing, I love it.
Okay, yeah.
Okay, no, it's no problem.
Yeah, so, okay, so just so people understand where we're going with this.
Okay, go ahead.
So that's just my source, is my connections to the Anunnaki.
Now, according to the Voyagers, Ashayana Deane said, 550 million years ago, Nibiru slammed into Tiamat and created the asteroid belt and broke Tiamat in half and Earth was the name change for what was left of Tiamat.
The story is in Sitchin.
The timeline in Voyagers is a thousand times off.
According to Sitchin, that happened in 550,000 B.C., not 550 million.
Okay, what's a few zeros among friends?
Okay, so around 500,000 B.C., the Emerald Covenant Treaty that Ashina Dean talks about was crafted after the Lyran Wars because the Lyrans were very peaceable, law-abiding, Trusting people.
And when they were slammed by the Alpha Draconai, who are basically predatory, they were unprepared to deal with it.
They just simply suffered annihilation.
So the Emerald Covenant Treaty was written by the Founders Elohim in order to protect the white races from predation.
And that happened around 500,000 BC. And after that, the...
Now, wait one second here, because you're making a distinction when you say white races.
Why is that?
Why is that?
Because the Alpha Draconian are reptilian races, and the treaty actually specifies...
Four white races that are supposed to be protected from predators.
This has turned out to be a very bad idea.
Because what it's set up in the minds of the cultures in the galaxy is that white races are somehow more special than others.
And the truth of the matter was, according to Where did I read this?
Okay, yeah, because I am not familiar with this distinction you're making, so I'm wondering where this is coming from.
I talked to Ashiana D. She's the one who wrote it then.
Well, no, because there is the rainbow races, and there are so many races that are mixed in here, and the Emerald Covenant actually covers all the races, not just the white ones.
And that's the problem.
And that was the problem, because...
the rainbow races are all 12 strand races our indigenous peoples have all their strands and so they're very intelligent and they're balanced and they have a wisdom of their own but the white races in 208,000 BC the Anunnaki Did some genetic engineering on the white races
to produce a race of white gold miners in South Africa.
This is Mike Tellinger's work.
I just don't know why you're emphasizing white.
Because this is not clear.
The treaty emphasized it and it becomes the predicament that we're in now.
It becomes our Well, okay, but do you understand that the Anunnaki actually genetically altered many of the races?
They were all on planet Earth at the time, and that what you're talking about is a frequency fence that was put in place on all of them, not just the white races.
The gold miners that the Anunnaki had were all bearded As you would identify, if you look from the carvings and the tablets, they were all from the Cro-Magnon line.
And in Africa, it was the Dogon who worked with the black races and civilized them to a high degree.
Right now there are 700,000 Dogon in Western Africa, in Mali, in several hundred villages.
and they lived by a very high spiritual path so the Anunnaki themselves were discriminatory and that becomes our problem as time moves on because that's where the idea comes from that we're more special than other people that's where the problem started So
in 208,000 BC when the gold miners were genetically engineered to be smaller and not live as long and not be as intelligent as the Anunnaki themselves some of their strands were broken or absent and this is the why behind those northern Tribes being
so highly intellectual that they lost their balance from the rainbow races.
They lost their ability to access.
Well, you know, I appreciate that interpretation, but I have to say that it is actually different than what I have learned, and I don't think Michael Tellinger would be going down that road because I know his work pretty well, and I know him very well.
I've done A number of interviews with him.
And so I don't know where this is coming from, but I can say that when you talk about rainbow races, at least my interpretation, my understanding, we are talking about the so-called white races, of which there are many permutations.
We are so many genetically re-engineered at this point, you can hardly say there's one white race, but regardless.
The rainbow races include the white races.
They are not separate and they are not all indigenous.
We've got red, we've got blue at one time.
There are many different shades that go into the rainbow races.
And the Voyagers specify five rainbow races on the five continents and each race in those days was separated and on a continent of its own.
It took a little while for the races to start mixing.
I'm talking about in the beginning.
Each continent had a race.
Once the earth was being resettled for the third time, reseeded for the third time.
And the races were still separated 208,000 years ago when the Anunnaki were dominating South Africa.
They had Mingashita Had started working in South America, but up at the North Pole, the Atlanteans were suffering from an ice age and had to move down and migrate into Siberia and North America.
They were giants, eight and nine feet, redheaded, and they all had a common stone technology that we find today.
in the eastern part of the US and Siberia has a fabulous stone technology profile more than I've seen anywhere else and that's one of the things that's been so eye-opening for me during this past year is the amount of stone technology and the amount of work in Siberia they have dams where there's no river.
They have markings for properties out in the middle of nowhere.
They have huge stone walls with megaliths like in Colombia and Bolivia and Egypt.
The amount of stone technology in northern Europe is just amazing.
The other thing that is amazing is the amount of cave dwellings that developed from the time that the earth became habitable again after it had a couple of floods in 51,000 BC two years ago two galactic years ago apparently when Genesis was just an idea
in Abraham's mind he was writing things down because he was told if he would write things down and journal it he would get a piece of the action his seed Would eventually bless the whole planet.
But two galactic years ago, when the life carrier, you know, the Urantia book talks about the entire universe as a huge hierarchy.
The entire universe is lawful, okay?
There is no chaos and anarchy in the universe.
So, Yahweh, the Jewish God, was simply a life carrier in the middle of the hierarchy.
He's a techie.
He's not even interested in social systems.
When he got here, this planet had just had a terrible flood and the northern part was all covered with water.
And it was his job to make the volcanic heating system and the water circulatory system inside of the earth work again because it had been interrupted and harmed when Nibiru slammed into Tiamat and destroyed most of it.
There was this torus left and that's why we still have volcanic heating systems and water circulatory systems because we are not on a flat platter but we no longer have The complete sphere either.
We're on a Taurus with a wall on the outside and then an ice field that more or less covers over the chunks that Tiamat lost.
And so we are now Earth.
We still have water circulation.
We still have heat distribution because that was Yahweh's job when he got here.
so he spent six days making the earth habitable again and that's our story in Genesis this is why the Bible book of Genesis was written that way that is during the time that South America and South Africa were inhabited by and dominated by the Anunnaki Well,
okay, Yahweh was actually seen as a vengeful god of the Jews, basically.
Yes, that's correct.
So, I'm not sure where you kind of get him to be.
I mean, you know, this is sort of a paraphrasing and a very, you know, distillation of...
But his function was as a techie, and I found that...
In the Urantia book, which is, you know, 2,000 pages, read through that a couple times, when it talks about the station of the life carriers, a life carrier.
Right.
Okay, and his job is to make the planet habitable.
Okay, social systems were not his job because that's what the hierarchy does.
Okay, well, where did he get the name as being a vengeful god in your interpretation of this scenario?
Well, the Bible is full of violence.
In fact, just about every religious book is full of violence.
Right, but even so, that's not an answer, really.
Okay, well, it is sort of an answer because the problem is abductions.
Remember, that's where we started.
And David, what's his name?
David, I've got his name in here, but anyway, he is a police inspector who specializes in In tracking missing people.
And he has determined in the autumn of this year, 2016, that 35,000 Americans disappear without a trace every single year.
It's the same problem from the beginning that people are abducted and they disappear.
And so the Lyran problem That being law-abiding and trustworthy and trusting doesn't work to halt the abduction problem.
And so, first of all, Yahweh gave through Enlil, the Anunnaki, a set of laws to try to, you know, straighten things up a little bit.
All right?
And that didn't work.
What was...
Going on among the peoples in China and India and so on, they had developed their own devotions, their own spiritual practices, and they're pretty sensible, okay?
But Yahweh's dealing, he's a techie, and he's dealing with the social system where deceit has become primary.
Deceit has became primary In the Garden of Eden, which I don't have a date for, but when Satan said to Eve, no, you won't die if you eat the apple.
You'll be like God and you'll learn, you know, you'll improve yourself.
That's when deceit became the tool for teaching the people on earth, on the earth plane, how to handle the problem of abductions.
That became the answer.
Well, that's very interesting.
Now, look, first of all, if you're going to look at the Garden of Eden, that's actually a distillation of the relationship between the Anunnaki and humans.
And so when you're talking about Satan, you're talking about actually an Anunnaki.
That's right.
He was an Anunnaki, and the distillation is...
that the Anunnaki have a hierarchy practice that we would call simulations if you listen to what Satan said he was posing a hypothetical situation well maybe it isn't so and Eve took it literally but what they found is that straight out laws teach people Rope
behavior and rope behavior is not effective against abductions or violence.
The people here have to learn more about escaping, hiding, finessing, telling only part of the truth.
They have to learn how to be A little bit, at least deceptive, to stay safe.
And that was the reason that evil was allowed here and violence was allowed here because we have to be able to cope and confront and deal with violence from ETs.
We don't know.
We don't know who they are.
We don't speak their language.
They come here and they take people.
And they use them for experiments, and they eat them sometimes.
We have to be able to deal with ETs from a mindset that's not gullible, not naive, and have the ability to confront sophisticated, high-tech people.
That's why evil was allowed here.
And that's why it's still going on.
Okay.
Well, I appreciate the notion that evil was allowed here.
And this is a...
We're talking about 3D eventually now going into 4D. This is basically a sort of level, a dimension of polarity.
And the polarity was put into the program from the very beginning.
So saying...
It's kind of like your wording is a little strange in the sense that...
It's not like evil was allowed here.
It was already here.
These beings came in.
I do appreciate that you are highlighting the notion that there was a point in the development of humanity in which they realized that the races needed this, in essence, what became the reptilian brain, In order to fight the reptilians.
In other words, in order to survive.
In order to survive, they had to...
They had to allow more evil than, we'll say, Lyra or Pleiades.
Although those races are, you know, have subsequently been dealing with that as well.
And we're talking right now, as a matter of fact, I don't know if you're following any of this, but the William Tompkins information that has just come out.
He's an aerospace engineer who's written a book called Selected by the Extraterrestrials.
He worked For the Rand Institute, for Hughes Aerospace, for NASA. He worked with the Nazis in the early days of Paperclip, basically designing the secret space program.
But he's talking about the Nordic races having helped us and helped the Nazis as well to devise the technology to get off this planet and to deal with the reptilians because the Nordic races are also still...
battling the reptilians themselves and they want humans to act as soldiers in essence.
So I don't know if you're familiar but that may also augment your own work.
Well now that we have a sizable population and we have quite a few of the Anunnaki incarnates and the Pleiadian incarnates and the Andromedan incarnates and we have a larger population of people who have telepathic and clairvoyant and remote viewing abilities we are able to share our knowledge and we are able to learn from each other and teach each other and
this is the good news that we're not limited to the bad stuff from the past anymore we have the Sumerian tablets we know that there were giants we know that there are huge underground Cave systems where people fled from all kinds of dangers.
We know that the earth has been flooded, it has been frozen, and it has been hit repeatedly with fire and sulfur from heaven.
We have records of the time of the Exodus.
We know that Nabooru comes back periodically.
In the procession of the equinoxes, 25,772 years, there are seven days, Anunnaki days, and each day is a 3,657 year cycle of Nibiru coming back.
So they come back seven times each galactic year.
That's why in Genesis...
There's a seven-day week because the Anunnaki came back seven times in a year.
Okay, so we have more information to deal with now than we did in the past and that's making it much better.
I'm delighted to hear about this this gentleman you're talking about and I will look into it.
Okay, the last time that Nibiru came through since it's a 3,657 year cycle was about either 1600 or 600 BC and how do we figure it out?
because our records don't nail it down that has become part of the problem of deceit That we don't have a clear history.
We know that the Jerusalem Temple and the library at Alexandria both were destroyed within a century, about 600 BC. And if that's the case, then the next time Nabooru comes, Here now, okay, has to be 3,657 years from last time, because that's what it is.
Now why isn't it, why doesn't the chronology match?
That was the very interesting part of this study.
Because what happened was, some things happened in society that compromised even the examination of what was true.
Nabooru's here now.
Our chronology is wrong.
And what happened apparently...
Have you read The Colburn?
You know The Colburn?
Yes, I haven't.
No.
I've seen bits of it.
Well, what happens is The Colburn has a very different chronology from the Hebrew Bible.
And if we take Jesus' birth date in The Colburn, which was 1072 AD, and we collapse it back to 3 BC, we recover enough years that Nibiru ends up here now.
And that's what I think happened.
When the Council of Nicaea took 14 books out of the Bible, they collapsed the chronology because the treachery and blasphemy and heresy was still going on and so they decided to schedule things differently I think the chivalric organizations and the Masonics know all about this because they
give a date for Nabooru's return in their secret mysterious stuff as 3135 or 3136 which is where we would be if we restored the 1120 years that the change in Jesus birth date brought about okay so our chronology is wrong the Bible has been altered and then there
was a problem in Scripture if you follow Jesus teachings you get in a lot of hot water you know he said turn the other cheek and he said be peaceable and so on well he said you would be persecuted well if everybody's law abiding there's no persecution so this is why the Roman Catholic Jesuit branch wrote or had written the
Quran to provide A system of martyrdom so they could have martyrs and saints and they could validate and verify the teachings of Jesus.
That Christians would be persecuted.
So that's why we have...
Okay, okay.
That's an interesting theory.
But, you know, where are you getting that the Jesuits had the Quran written?
This is an interesting interpretation of Muhammad's life.
That's...
I understand that's known history.
That's known history...
Well, I certainly, that's not known history.
Okay, I can't, I mean, known history, like, that's a very vague term.
We can't actually bander around because nothing right now is known, as you know, because everything, our history, our lies within lies.
Now, you're saying that there is a group of people who send out this information.
I appreciate that.
Yes, and it's on YouTube, and you can Google it.
Okay, but you can appreciate there's going to be plenty of Muslims who are going to take issue with the notion that the Jesuits wrote or basically created Mohammed in some way or mind-controlled him or something to do what he did.
Is that your idea?
That is the history of Islam, as I understand it, from Dr.
Bill Warner.
Okay, alright.
This is somebody that you obviously believe, okay?
Is that right?
Yes.
And they had reasons for doing it, and their reasons for doing it Are logical and coherent.
Okay, well, creating martyrs is an interesting, you know, getting back to the life of Jesus and so on and so forth.
Jesus was not actually hung on the cross.
There's plenty of evidence that he was not.
I know that.
The Gospel of Barnabas tells that story, and that's one of the books that the Council of Nicaea removed.
Right, okay, so fair enough.
There are several sources to say that That no, Jesus is not the one hung on the cross.
It was Judas who was hung on the cross and Jesus got away and he lived long enough to found the Merovinian bloodline from which King Arthur arose.
Okay, we know that that's part of the Merovinian bloodline.
From Jesus, who didn't die on the cross.
We know that this is true.
Okay, well, yes, the Mary line.
But, you know, all I'm saying is that some of this is highly questionable.
You appreciate that.
You can question all of it.
This is just what I'm threading together from sources.
I have no preferences because I don't belong to an ideology.
All right.
I am not a this or that or something else.
I'm just a researcher.
Yeah.
No, that's fine.
Okay, just trying to clarify here because, you know, at this moment, we need to really balance it out when a certain thing is said that is a statement that many people who will watch this video, whether they're in the chat now or they're not, you know, eventually will take issue with.
So it is my job as the interviewer To highlight these things, to get your response, and then we can move on.
So thank you.
That's great.
So going on from here, where do you want to go?
In the 1400s, according to our present chronology, what it was according to the original chronology, I couldn't say, all right?
But it seemed, somebody seemed to think, That martyrdom and saints and saints days and all of that was necessary.
Well, okay, let's look at that closely because there is the notion of human sacrifice and we are talking about what in essence has become a satanic religion and you have the bread of Christ you know eating the body of Christ and all this drinking the blood and so and so forth so there are rituals within it that do stem from a satanic reptilian base and this is very
likely where this comes from sacrifice where it comes from and Luciferian is satanic taken to the level of a whole culture where one culture says to another you're not as good as we are we're going to take you all out okay Because Luciferian adopts, do what thou wilt, that there are no limits or boundaries to the behavior of human beings, anything goes.
Whereas Satanism is more formalized and more focused on removing people who are not compliant and not conforming to their society, so you find another use for them and take them out.
I understand that.
Now, in the Protestant part of the Christian culture, John Calvin in the 1600s made a change to the church in which he rationalized and made Christian behavior optional.
That's when the Reformation decided That what you believed was more important than how you behaved, whereas in the Jewish tradition, how you behaved was settled down to a gnats eyelash.
According to the Calvinist churches, it didn't matter how you behaved as long as you believed.
Now there are some Christian offshoots, Anabaptists, for instance, who take behavior very seriously but because of John Calvin having spread the word in the churches that it doesn't matter how you really behave when the ships from England went out to the New World they didn't apply the
same ethical standards to the others the indigenous tribes than they did to themselves and that goes back to that original emerald covenant treaty that says it's okay for one race to consider themselves superior to everybody else that goes back to the idea that there is an elite And there are the sheeple.
Okay, I know this is your interpretation of the Emerald Covenant.
I've never heard it interpreted that way.
Let me just say that.
And so I find it, you know, I'd have to go back and take a closer look at it and so on and so forth.
But I appreciate this is your take on it.
So you basically think...
This is a new way of looking...
History so that it actually makes sense step by step.
Okay.
So you think that the idea was they got this notion, not from some, I don't know, distorted notion of perhaps male supremacy and then possibly the fact that the white races contained a larger degree of reptilian blood, And bloodlines, and this is where it would have come out in a more organic sense.
That's all true too, and the reptilians are over-intellectualized and don't have as many of the strands that connect their nervous system into their emotions.
Yes, you're absolutely correct.
I'm just tracing the events That brought those feelings and those elements together into social behavior.
That's how the social behavior got changed.
So then we go up to 1871 and we have the Order of the Masons and the Grand Commander, Albert Pike, directs his Masonic Orders to stage three world wars.
Now my grandfather was involved in that.
And the Third World War is staged between Islam versus Christianity directly.
It's completely described specifically that way.
Right.
And it has been brought about in perfect fulfillment of Albert Pike's predictions.
Okay.
And so the Masons have kept Their secrets and their mysteries under wraps.
The ordinary people don't know anything about it.
They out on the street doesn't know anything about it.
In fact, a lot of the lower levels don't know anything about it.
You have to get up to the 33rd degree in order to know what is really on the mind of the leadership.
So the Illuminati in the 1870s made a decision To stage some wars that were going to change the social landscape.
And that has been fulfilled.
That's all I'm pointing out.
Yes.
That actually happened.
Yes.
Now, in the Second World War, to take deceit even further, Operation Paperclip took the German Nazi scientists and psychiatrists and seeded them into America.
Okay?
So that the rocketry program by NASA and the psychiatric profession became seeded with money for experimentation and secrecy.
As a result, in 1969, the first moon shot was one that was staged on a sound stage by Kubrick.
They did go to the moon, yeah, we know that.
Because we have close-up pictures from Apollo 20 that I've looked at and re-rendered many, many times.
We know they got to the moon, but the first shot was staged on the Kubrick soundstage.
Well, it's just interesting you're bringing that up.
I had Jay Widener on my show today.
He is one of the preeminent experts on Kubrick.
And we were discussing the fact that actually Kubrick, he didn't just fake one landing.
He faked several.
And that was because of what they could not show the public.
We did go to the moon, but we had help, as it's said.
And we had ET help.
That's how it went.
You could actually see...
Because the ETs have a ship that has a large picture window that they also help NASA to film the entire Clementine mission and the Magellan mission.
So we don't have a ship with a large picture window to take photographs out of.
But the reason you know that it's a large picture window in the upper part of the video There are shadows, and by manipulating the contrast in the light, you can see the faces of the people standing around the photographer in the upper part of the video.
So yes, in the original Apollo 11 NASA video, there are more people on the ship, on the command module, Than just the crew.
And, yeah, you can see that they were assisted.
And, of course, the Clementine mission was all done by, I think it was the Anunnaki, because they're all heavily bearded and very, very light-skinned people.
But, yeah, that is part of the deceit that has been handed to us.
The whole fight over flat earth versus spinning ball is part of the secrets that NASA keeps against the people so evil has been not only introduced into this platform but it has been kept secret all this time and it is part of our problem that the Pegasus mission
of DARPA set up a chrono Chronogarchy is what Alfred Weber calls it.
And that is, they have time machines in which they have predicted several decades into the future, and then they try to load the policies and procedures and the history and the media to meet the prediction of So that we have had five presidents in office now who have
been part of the Pegasus mission, who have been part of the globalist ideology, and who have steered the West toward a single outcome that was articulated and described very well in the Iron Mountain conferences Iron Mountain, Pennsylvania, in 1962 to 1967.
I don't know if you've seen the two-hour...
Actually, well, we probably brought it forward over 10 years ago.
But the thing is that I appreciate where you're going with this.
Now, it doesn't sound like you know about the yellow book, and it doesn't sound like you know about looking-glass technology.
Well, that's what I'm talking about.
Looking-glass technology is what placed the leadership...
of the United States who are rich and have infinite financing available to them on a single option track to plan our world in a single certain way that they wanted so that we no longer have governance by consent of the governed we could no longer have Transparent
public policy.
We could no longer have an election system that wasn't already rigged for a certain outcome and a certain candidate who was going to do things in a certain way to lead to that one outcome.
And this is where things went really south because no other possible option Is allowed to surface in the Iron Mountain conferences, they're going to have peace all right, but it's going to be according to certain policies of population reduction and blood sports and, you know...
Well, in essence, I mean, if you read the Iron Mountain report, it actually says that they don't want peace, that that's actually the last thing they want, that that is not...
They're going to have an enforced...
Peace where they keep the peace they want, and they're going to use wars for certain purposes.
Well, of course, yes.
So, in essence, yes, that's what we have.
Yeah.
Their peace is on their terms.
And their terms are absolute, and their terms are rigid.
They're in the bars.
Now, you see, I grew up in a family...
that was from the Bolshevik socialist communist milieu and they believed in a future like that they wanted a future like that with a huge federalist system of a mommy-daddy system that would take care of everybody and so forth and so when I read the Iron Mountain report It resolved in me the fact that deceit has
gone to the point of harming humanity.
It has gone too far.
And that's why, that's when I said to you, I was radicalized.
Because that's not the way I want to go, and that's not the way I want my grandchildren to go.
Okay?
So then we go up to 1954, the Secret Griotta Treaty.
was crafted and in it abductions were allowed okay there were people who were just considered to be cattle and who can be abducted in return for high technology we had the Northwoods doctrine where deceit and secrecy became part and parcel of what the government was doing that was in the days when George Herbert Walker Bush was
financing the Bay of Pigs by selling stuff through Zapata Oil and then we had Ali North in the guns financing the war in Nicaragua we've had gunrunning and drugrunning by elements of our government Going back to the 50s,
and so it is no surprise now that we find out the Clinton Foundation is running guns for the Mid-East Wars, the serial wars that are run by the renegades in the ISHQ.com company.
The more things change, the more they remain the same.
Now, I have some questions to Alfred about who the ETs were who offered the Looking Glass technology to MJ-12.
Do you know who that was?
Well, that's a very interesting question.
In essence, we were probably told that it was the P52 grays from Orion.
Whether that would be accurate or not, I don't know.
I mean, you know, this is speculation.
Yeah, that's where I am with it too.
I mean, this is what we were told by Dan Burish.
Certain things he told us absolutely did pan out to be correct.
Yeah, and I talked to Dan too.
And so, you know, if you haven't listened to our interviews with Dan, you're probably missing a number of pieces.
I've listened to all of his interviews, and I realize that what he could say was controlled.
Sure.
By himself.
So you just have to let it wash, and what I could tell was that in terms of civil governments, the whole The doctrine of secrecy, classified information, compartmentalization, need to know, confidentiality, all of that meant that our nation's government was out of control, completely out of control.
It has been corporatized to the point that our local county, and I live in the mountains where there's almost no industry, and so the county makes their money by Giving out tickets and setting up complaints against people to generate revenue.
They're a revenue generating agency, they're not a public service agency.
And that's what the corporate Washington DC, United States of America Corporation became.
Now, my aunt Peggy Dennis was the wife of Eugene Dennis, the former General Secretary of the Communist Party USA. I know quite a bit about how they, you know, how they were.
And so in 1978, she wrote a book called The Autobiography of an American Communist, in which, and it was also set up on PBS as an American Experience television show, and she explained why she was signing up for the Republican Party under Reagan, and some Some alarms went off in my head.
I said, uh-oh, this is not a good thing.
And what happened was, she was a neocon, okay, but there are also neolibs in the Democratic Party, and that is how they have controlled everything.
So that the people no longer had any voice.
in what is going on and that's one of the things I keep pointing out is that globalists were seeded into both US parties so that we have now had five presidents who were following the globalist line and we the people couldn't do anything about it because our voting system has been manipulated Now,
I just found this week, online, the new constitution for the United States of North America, which is an Islamic state.
Surprise, surprise!
Where did that come from?
And, reading down to the signature line, it comes from a Rothschild who patched this constitution together.
according to his best understanding.
Now it has not been ratified by the 50 states so it is not in effect but again this is a globalist trick behind the people's back to control the history of the land that I live on without my consent Which is the same thing going on in the secret
space program when the guys who...
What was the name of the guy who went to Mars for 17 years?
And got involved there in wars that he had no input into.
That just about destroyed his entire division.
So what has come to me...
Okay, can I just stop you there?
Because you've just brought up this so-called constitution written by a Rothschild.
So where are you getting this information and why do you think it kind of means anything?
Okay.
I have given you my outline for today's interview.
And that link...
To that Constitution is on that outline.
I see.
But for the purposes of the people listening, can you just paraphrase where you're getting this information?
In other words, finding a link on the internet is all very fine and good.
Can you say why this so-called Constitution sort of means anything to you?
Why did it resonate?
It comes from the intention to set up a North American Union I don't know if you know the judge, Anna Von Reitz.
Yeah, I just had her on my show the other day.
And she analyzes the difference between the federal bureaucracy, which is a corporation, versus maritime law, versus administrative codes, versus common law.
And as a result of her analysis many people have been freed from the idea that we live in a free country many people have been relieved of the notion that the law in this country is about justice and fairness and because of her a movement has arisen to fix it okay and because
Mr.
Trump has moved people's emotions.
People want to fix it.
Dan Burish had a lot to do with my desire to fix it, and so did Lloyd Pye, and so did Roger Lear, because I was abducted when I was nine, and I had implants that came out of me when I was in my 50s.
so I know what that's about and Michael Tellinger each of these truth-telling people regardless of how marvelously they have documented themselves have awakened in me the desire to fix it let's pull together and fix this mess and in this particular case What I have pulled together is the timeline of deceit,
the social deceit that has been used as rationalizations and excuses for clamping down, clamping down, clamping down, immobilizing people, making people lose their livelihoods, moving businesses out of the nation completely.
I'm just one more person Showing the truth that deceit has cost us so much in our human lives.
Okay?
Sure.
And the things that I've brought out, the things that I have found, were a surprise to me too.
I had no idea.
Because I grew up in a communist family, and they were Jewish, and then I tried being several kinds of Christian, and then I went to the Sikhs, and I've been to the Quakers, and I've been all over the place, and I've read a bunch of books.
I don't place myself in an ideology.
I can't tell you whether I'm a Democrat or a Republican or a Libertarian or whatever.
I'm just looking for how come we have all this deceit running at everything.
Sure.
And the deceit is what energizes me to continue the work, and my grandchildren have been told and taught the most incredible BS in school that I've ever heard.
My granddaughter was talking to me, she was eight at the time, and she was talking to me about endangered species.
And she was talking about her school mission and what they did was they all chose a species that they thought might be endangered and then they voted on it to see which one was the most popular and that is the one that was described and won the contest and announced to be the most endangered.
And I said, what?
You voted it in to be the most endangered?
How do you do this?
You know, there are certain laws of causes and effects in reality.
We're here in material reality, third density, physical.
Our digestion takes time.
Our learning takes time.
Everything we do It's a fight against time.
Third density, that's what it is, a struggle against time.
Fourth density, people don't have to worry about that.
They're in eternity.
The fourth dimension is time.
They've mastered time.
We have not mastered time.
And as long as we're here, If we're not getting true facts, if we're not getting the real deal and the right information, we can't solve a single problem.
Absolutely.
Okay, so what I want to do is, we've been going for a while, and we have a choice here I want to give you.
On the one hand, we do have some people in the chat.
It's possible they want to ask you some questions.
It's fine.
If anyone wants to ask questions, please put them in all caps so we can distinguish the questions from the common questions.
And then the other thing is that you say you're writing this book and it would probably be nice as kind of a summation for you to kind of talk a little bit about the direction of your book.
Okay.
All right.
Well, do you want to do the questions first?
Well, while we're gathering questions, why don't you tell a little bit about your book and then we'll see if there's any questions.
Okay?
Okay.
The book is going to be what what do we do about this now and one of our problems of course has to do with money in the dollar and one of the things that I found in my in my studies was the law of seed money the law of manifesting by paying forward so I want to talk about that and I want to talk about alternatives to the dollar or the franc or the ruble,
because there are so many other means of exchange that we don't think about very often.
There are pawn shops, there are thrift shops, there are garage sales, there's the Bradford Pound, there are Coin collections and stamp collections, things that people collect that they can use to trade.
So that's going to have a whole chapter on different modes of exchanging now.
Now in education, I'm so glad you're asking me this, in education we have to correct the BS, the wrong history that our children are being taught every day we have to teach them to solve problems according to causes and effects not according to what's the most popular notion okay so that I'm going to propose that in
secondary school that a year be devoted to the differences in law between maritime admiralty common law and administrative law much along the same lines as Annabon Reitz spoke to you the other day except I want to do it at about 10th grade level there needs to be a year talking about financing
and thrift there needs to be a year talking about the political process and how the precincts work The vote tax work, you know, just go through the steps with young people so that when you see people taking a survey on a video and asking do you know where Thailand is or what's the name of
your state senator the people answering the questions are not so clueless Our children need to know about thrift.
They need to know about nutrition.
They need to have skills.
That's where this book is going to go.
That if we're going to fix our society, we have to start with our children.
And what we teach our children, so our children are not helpless 10 years down the road.
They grow up so fast.
They grow up so fast.
It's amazing.
My grandchildren, one of them is 29 years old and has a PhD already.
I didn't realize I was that old.
Okay.
All right.
So, okay, at this moment, and thank you for this glimpse into your book, and just why don't you tell us when you might have it out?
Oh, this is beginning of November.
It will not be ready for the Christmas rush.
I think a good time for it will be around the inauguration.
All right.
If there's going to be an inauguration, if the election is actually going to get carried out.
Right.
Still a while.
It's around the time of the inauguration.
Yeah, still.
Because holidays, you know, are...
A big part of the lives of families.
And that's a part of the sifting and sorting that we need to do between religious dogma, custom, tradition, and just having a good time, fun.
So that's where this is going.
This is grandma's advice on wisdom and good ideas or something like that.
Alright.
Okay.
Let's see.
Now, as far as the questions go, someone wants to know the origins of RH positive.
Is that positive or negative?
RH negative, I guess.
Or just RH. And will it ever be revealed?
I have no idea about that.
I know that I personally have porphyria, the same disease that took out George III and Elizabeth I. Had some of, but I haven't had any blood studies done in just years and years and years and that's something I just don't know.
I'm sorry.
That's not up my alley.
Okay.
Let's see.
Someone wants me to ask you about Pindar and Marduk.
Excuse me.
I have to get something to drink here.
Oh, no problem.
It's water.
Okay.
Pindar is supposedly the penis of the dragon.
The human being who is appointed to be the point person between humanity or between a society humanity and God or a cosmic being.
Okay.
Pindar.
You can claim to be a Pindar, but I think it's like claiming to be Jesus the Christ, you know.
Well, there is one guy who claims to be that, and from what I understand, he is a black magician.
Okay, all right.
So we'll just let him make his claim, and we'll find out sometime in the future whether he was right or not.
Fair enough.
Okay, the other person is Marduk.
Marduk...
It was Anki's son, and his brother is Nergal, the guy I told you they found in suspended animation.
Nergal is Marduk's younger brother.
And Marduk has been a very angry guy.
He has been very young for a long time.
I have never sensed Marduk.
I have no...
I have heard he is an executive in a corporation in Kearney right now.
That's what I've heard about him.
That's as much as I know.
Okay.
Well, I've heard quite a bit about Marduk, and there are people that have spent, you know, that spend time in secret societies worshipping him.
And there is evidence that he may have been returned to Earth in a sort of stasis, if you will, and that Obama and a bunch of, I guess, Hillary and several others went to pay the respects in Marduk.
I think it was Zimbabwe, if I remember correctly.
And this was a couple years ago and so on and so forth.
And that he is the Anunnaki who is the sun when the Illuminati refer to the sun and to the sun coming to rule and the sun rising, all this kind of thing.
That basically the New World Order is supposed to be set at the feet of Marduk.
That's what I know about it.
It's all coherent with what I know.
Now, in 2007, I got a picture of Ninar with Enlil, who were at a conference.
Ninar has since died.
Enlil, and you could tell that they were really ETs in the picture because their eyes were so close together, and they They shone red.
They were little, tiny, teeny, teeny red eyes.
And when I illuminated their clothes, they had all kinds of lights underneath their dark suits.
They weren't human.
It was real clear.
So, um, Nanar, who was kind of roly-poly, and, um, and Lil, who was long-faced and sad, okay, They have been here, that I know.
And they were in a conference and they were negotiating with the powers that be and probably Marduk was there too.
Because they don't age the way we do.
The way they age is they get internally repaired by technologies.
They have ways of repairing their DNA. So they can just keep living on.
They're not comfortable, or maybe they're not happy, or maybe this or that, but their DNA can be repaired with their medical, you know, I'd like to go to a medical doctor and say, hey, let's get rid of porphyria and stuff, okay, and they can't do that.
So, yeah.
Okay, well, Along those lines now, you believe that you're in contact to this day with a certain group of the Anunnaki.
Is that right?
Occasionally, yeah.
Occasionally when something comes up.
Okay.
When you say that, do you mean that you're getting downloads?
How are you communicating?
They're mostly checking because I'm part of their bloodline.
They're checking to see That I'm not doing anything to either dishonor them or teach or say what their hierarchy doesn't want to get put out.
And basically what I've said here today was okay.
Okay, that was okay with them.
And yes, you've probably not heard it before.
They check on me.
To see what I'm doing, and I can ask them a question now and then, but they're not very forthcoming.
Yahweh's a lot more forthcoming than they are, and I know him as a techie, not as somebody who is greatly interested in social systems, and that's why the fact that he's considered to be a hulking monster who wants to Start Wars and do all of that.
It's not surprising to me.
Because that's not his shtick.
Don't you mean it is surprising to you because it's not his shtick?
I've been in contact with him now for 25 years.
You think he's being misinterpreted because he wants to be and because he created that?
Because he doesn't care.
About the whole scenario of the social stuff.
It's not his business.
It's not his problem.
He's busy working on the volcanic stuff and dealing with the chemtrails because the chemtrails is keeping our atmosphere separate from Nabooru so there's no explosions and pumping oil out of the ground and is when a meteor hits the land doesn't explode he's dealing with physical stuff and not you know the hierarchy the
founders of the Anunnaki and their teachings you know the Catholic Church that Vatican is the epitome of Anunnaki teachings Including the Jesuit faction who are Marduk.
Okay.
And so, you know, Yahweh is not a social scientist.
Okay.
So you believe you're in contact with them and are you seeing them in person or are you just getting sort of mental pictures or what?
I'm not clairvoyant at all.
I'm only clairaudient.
All right.
So what I can hear...
I can hear their alarm system when a meteor is about to hit somewhere.
I get tones in my ear when that happens, different kinds of tones.
I hear music, particularly songs that are specific to certain meanings, to certain messages.
When, for instance, last night I was awakened at 3.30 in the morning and I don't know exactly who it was that I was communicating with in terms of my thoughts about what I was going to do here.
But the intention was very direct that what I said today to you was going to be guided.
And so it has been guided.
I'm just a secretary.
Okay, I'm just their secretary.
I say what they want me to say and I do what they want me to do.
And so that's why I'm comfortable.
I realize you're not comfortable with some of the things I said.
Okay, that's alright.
Because, as I said about other things, it's all going to come out in the wash.
All the truth is coming out gradually.
The processes and areas where deceit has been dominating Are being exposed.
Sure.
Absolutely.
That's the important thing.
And there are people who are a lot better at telling the interesting facts than I am.
Okay, I'm just a grandma.
And I'm doing what I can.
And so my relationship with them is very informed because I'm considered to be one of them.
You know, I'm just the secretariat.
Okay, so someone is asking about your abductions.
Do your abductions relate to your relationship to the Anunnaki?
Yes.
I was born in very bad condition with Asperger's and porphyria and acanthal cytosis and so on.
I almost died when I was born.
I was born a month late and And so when I was nine years old, and I was on vacation with my mother in Minnesota, I was taken for a 12-hour period of missing time.
And after that, for 10 years, I had these terrible fainting spells.
But it did something to my way of thinking.
When I was 12, I went through a mental exercise to swallow the whole universe, so I had a map of the universe in my mind, which I've had ever since.
Okay, so I've always been strange.
I've always been slow, methodical, just kind of plotting.
I've always been plotting, and that's why I don't consider myself a good speaker.
I'm not even interested sometimes, but About 10 years ago, little black plastic triangles with a seed inside.
One popped out of my arm and the other one popped out in the toilet.
And then I realized, oh, I have implants.
And so then I was allowed to know about when I was taken and where I was taken and what happened to me when I was taken.
I was taken for 12 hours in third dimensional time.
But in fifth dimensional time, I was taken for several weeks.
And I was tortured.
And they did a whole bunch of stuff on me.
But that was the only time.
And I repressed the memory and I'd rather not talk about it.
All right.
Okay.
And so how old were you at that time?
I was nine when they took me.
I was 12 hours older when they brought me back.
I had fading spells for 10 years after that that nobody could figure out what they were.
I'd just be standing here talking and I'd just fall over.
Half a dozen times in my teenage years that finally went away.
And then in my 50s the implants fell out.
So are you aware of, like, the Neanderthal bloodline that you may be part of?
No.
I'm Anunnaki.
Okay, but you know they made human hybrids, right?
Yeah, I'm not a human hybrid.
You don't think you are?
I'm an incarnate, one of them.
All right.
Really, I don't fit in in human society at all.
And that's just how it is.
Their way of thinking makes sense to me.
I just fit in with them better.
Yahweh and I have a very open relationship in terms of trading meaning and thoughts back and forth.
We can just talk.
I have a terrible time trying to talk to my children.
And then, as Ereshkigal, I was part of the royal bloodline.
And on Mars, I was part of the royal bloodline.
And so now, I'm one of three illegitimate daughters of the Duke of Windsor.
I'm part of the royal bloodline again.
And what that means to me is, hey, I get all these hereditary diseases.
You know?
That's what I got out of it.
The oldest daughter of the Duke lives in Tennessee.
She's 82.
Her name is Elizabeth.
I forget the last name.
She has a website called we3.org.
And the next half-sister lives in Virginia.
Her name is Peggy Ann Childers.
She has a YouTube account.
She has a lot to say on YouTube.
She doesn't like me very much, and I leave her alone.
We are half-sisters.
Well, that's what royals do, is they spread the seed around.
So that's what my dad did.
That's what he thought was the important thing.
And you probably know that I have challenged Queen Elizabeth.
Yes.
With my claims.
Well, and for people that are interested in that side of what you have to say, we did do a pretty, you know, involved interview on that subject already, so I'm going to refer them to that prior interview.
And anything else you have, you have a YouTube channel, and on the YouTube channel you do have your own videos as well, as other people that have interviewed you, correct?
That's correct, and also I have the claim against the crown.
Okay, that's on your website.
Some trending videos that I put up recently.
Okay, so at this point, we're going to close this down.
Thank you so much for being on my show and for sharing.
Thank you so much for allowing me to tell my story and to provide some new information that people didn't have before.
Okay.
See how it all works out.
Absolutely.
Well, let's stay in touch.
And you take care.
All right.
And thank you, everyone, for listening and for watching.
And we'll be back next week with some more shows.
So have a great night.
And, Emily, you take care.
And it's been delightful to have you on the show.
Thank you so much, Carrie.
Bye-bye.
Okay.
Take care.
Bye-bye.
Okay, so hold on one moment here and we're going to...
Okay, so thank you everyone for listening and for watching again.
I do want to make a note to people in the chat that if you do not want to hear from the person who is interviewing and you only want to hear from the guest, that I suggest you go to the guest's website and see their videos because they can talk non-stop and you can just hear from them.
If you are not interested in hearing my kinds of questions and The way I do an interview, then please go elsewhere.
Because I do a certain kind of thing here.
And I know exactly what I'm doing and why I do it the way I do it.
And if it bothers you, please move on.
Okay?
Thank you very much.
And everyone, take care.
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