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April 28, 2016 - Project Camelot
02:20:42
MIKE SPARKS : MORE ABOUT THE SECRET SPACE PROGRAM
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Now it's live.
Okay.
Hi, everyone.
This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
And hopefully you will be able to see our poster here on the air.
And I'm just going to wait until the video on your end catches up with us.
And also want to make sure that our sound is okay.
Can everyone hear us?
Yes.
Can you hear me at this?
Mike here?
Mike here chiming in.
Yeah, I'm just waiting to see if they're going to respond here.
Okay.
Yes.
Okay, they say it's fine.
Okay.
Hi, everyone.
This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm here with Mike Sparks tonight.
And Mike, say hi to everyone.
Hi, everyone.
This is a sound check also.
Okay, hopefully Mike's going to be okay with the sound.
We've been having already some strange goings on, but I'm going to actually read his bio here.
It's really a short one, and then we're going to ask Mike a lot more about himself.
But just for now, for the purposes of this interview...
So, Mike Sparks is a former U.S. Army Airborne Infantry and Marine Officer and James Bond historian.
He reveals, among other things, why the white space program struggles continually just to get into space.
When winged space planes pioneered by Chuck Yeager, the right stuff, test pilots put civilian satellites and soon celebrities into orbit easily.
Has NASA been hiding a secret black program using more efficient anti-gravity craft all along?
Is one of the questions that he delves into and we've talked about in the past.
We're going to be going into more detail about the secret space program tonight.
So I'd like to welcome you, Mike, to the show.
We have a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of links on my website to all kinds of different websites that you have.
In fact, it's almost dizzying the number of links you've got.
So can you at all talk about really your background as you see it and I mean, I'm really curious how you kind of were in the military, what you were doing in the military, and then how you kind of came around to where you're at now.
Roger.
Now it's live.
I heard somebody say that.
Go ahead.
Was that like a robotic guy saying what's live?
I don't know.
I hear you fine.
Did you hear my question?
No, I just thought I heard some little robotic voicing.
Now it's live.
Oh, no.
All right.
Well, I'll ask my question again.
Can you talk about what you did?
I've got your question.
I've got your question.
Oh, all right.
Go ahead.
I'm ready.
Go ahead, then.
Anyway, when you join the military at entrance level, you are joining into the low-technology world of the U.S. military, and I mean low.
So when I joined, I was coming out of high school, and you're learning basically how to fight on foot dismounted and live in the field and basically ...by itself before you even and you're learning basically how to fight on foot dismounted and live in the So this basic dismounted infantry experience
It was eye-opening to me because I did almost die from hypothermia one exercise because it rained and kept raining.
Everything I had was soaked, so I got hypothermia, classic hypothermia.
The thing that saved me was hot chow being brought out to the field, which is a Very rare happening in the Marines.
The Marines are lazy.
They just want to give you some sea rations at the time.
Now we have MRAs.
Anyway, those are chemical substances, food added to it.
So they have a 15-year shelf life.
So, you know, it's not good for your body.
They plug you up so you don't go to the bathroom.
Number two, because during combat, you're afraid.
You don't want people having the...
Bathroom dump in their pants.
So MREs have got a constipation agent.
I could even say that I got the Natick lab lady to admit that it has an anti-sex agent inside it.
So you don't get all horny at the end of the night.
So anyway, you're going through this low-tech hell.
In my case, the Marines...
And you've got to say, there's got to be a better way of doing this than freezing to death.
So you go look at other armies, and I studied the British Army, and they used Gore-Tex.
Gore-Tex is a fabric that breathes out, lets your perspiration out, but it keeps the rain and snow from getting in.
I became an early proponent for the Gore-Tex, doing market survey to try to find better equipment.
So, are you hearing this guy saying now it's live by any chance?
The little robotic guy?
Terry?
No, I don't hear any little robotic guy going, now it's live.
I don't hear that.
Okay, that's all right.
I can talk.
So anyway, you can see what I've done.
But the deal is that I started as a low-technology guy, and then I started coming up with ideas to increase efficiency because the human body...
Got one half and half of a horsepower is basically, you know, 225 pounds lifted one foot in one second, right?
Okay, half a horsepower.
That's a limited zero-sum game.
You can't just keep adding weight onto the human body because you're just going to end up going slower, slower, slower, slower until you just don't move.
And we've been losing wars at that point by lack of mobility on foot.
So what I would do is come ways to get one piece of air to do three things, save some weight.
So like a liner, you can get the poncho to connect to your poncho, but there's no head hole.
So how are you going to wrap it around your head?
So I go to a seamstress rigger, have them create a head hole, connect the poncho liner to the poncho.
Then put some loops on the poncho so it turns into a tent.
So you're trying to get the poncho to be a tent and also a sleeping bag if you don't need to erect the tent.
So you're carrying three pounds of weight, a 10 to 20 pound sleeping bag.
So that's kind of my low-tech experience that I've spent at least decades working on, squeezing out all those extra pounds so we can move four to seven miles an hour dismounted.
But I would say middle career, I realized that no matter how good you do this, your body...
Mike?
Hello, Mike?
Mike?
Mike, can you hear me?
Mike?
Hello?
Mike?
Hello?
Hi everyone.
We're having really bad trouble with Mike in his audio.
It's like really bizarre.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know why it's so hard to hear him.
And I think what I'm going to do is ask him to call me back on Skype.
We lost him completely.
Mike?
Can you hear me?
Hello?
Mike?
Hello?
Mike.
Um.
Thank you.
Hi everyone.
I hope that you can hear me now.
We are going to call Mike back on Skype because there's something wrong with the audio.
Frankly, I just think someone is interfering, probably the military.
Mike has a lot of knowledge about how...
Let's see.
Inefficient, the military really is.
And so I think they probably don't want him to talk about that.
So if you just stand by, I'm going to call him on Skype.
So one moment.
And while I get him on the line, I'll just put this up here so everyone can see it.
Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. All right.
All right.
While we're waiting for Mike, I'm just going to say that draw your attention to the fact that I have a lot of new interviews on the website.
We're actually broadcasting now live, usually with much less trouble than we're having here with Mike.
So please do check out projectcamelotportal.com where all the videos are and there's Over 400, well over 400 videos now on my YouTube channel.
So there's a lot of material here.
And the other thing is that, you know, they're trying to keep my quiet, I'm sure.
Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this weird, these weird problems.
So if you will bear with us.
And let me see what I'm going to have to do with this.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You know, with all the capability and the money behind YouTube and Google, there's no reason why they can't broadcast this signal.
There's no reason whatsoever.
So this is just nonsense.
I'm trying to get him now on Skype and I'm not sure why, but I don't see him.
So...
I see I've got two channels for him, but he doesn't seem to be on either one of them.
Maybe he's having computer problems suddenly.
Oh, God.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know why I don't see Mike online.
I'm trying.
channels texting him I tried calling him.
It just hangs up on me.
Maybe he's actually...
I don't know.
He wanted to talk about mind control.
And...
There's a free copy of Walter Boart, his book on mind control, and I'm going to try to put it in the chat here.
So hold on and bear with me.
I have to figure out how to get this over to this other computer.
Crazy.
We are trying to get to Europe.
Myself and Richard Alan Miller, if you're interested, if you're in Europe and you see this broadcast and you'd like to help us with flights or hotels or places to stay, especially Richard Alan Miller would like to have a very cheap place to stay.
day he's very low on funds and can use all the help we can give him I think he's got something like ten books for sale He's an amazing, prolific writer.
he's he's a you know he's a delight to watch and listen to um hi everyone I'm.
I'm sorry for all the trouble that we're having right now.
I'm trying to get Mike Sparks on the line.
I'm also trying to get some information over to you on another computer.
So I hope this is going to work.
Anyway, so if you just bear with me.
There's no real reason why this would be so crazy.
As far as I can tell.
And I'm going to put this on the screen right now so you can see what I'm talking about.
We were going to be talking about mind control and the U.S. military.
You know, that's a hot topic, needless to say.
So hopefully everyone can see this now.
and So Walter Boart is someone who wrote a book about mind control a long time ago, and it's an excellent book.
And you can actually get it.
And I'm going to try to give you the link, so if you bear with me here.
It's got this really long link where you can actually download it for free.
So if you're interested, I highly recommend it.
Thank you.
Okay, I've got the link.
So now I'm going to put this link in the chat.
For those of you that are bearing with us at this time, I hope that Mike is going to show up any minute.
otherwise I guess we're going to have to reschedule him
no stupid thing So that's the link for the book.
It's called Operation...
Mind control.
And it's old, but it's not wrong.
It's very accurate.
It's still very accurate.
So that's important.
Let me see what's going on with Mike.
Is he around?
No.
Wow, this is bizarre.
I just don't see him at all.
I don't know what happened.
Okay.
Well, let me...
I guess I'll just tell you some things about what's going on with Camelot.
For those that are listening and that are going to, you know, stay around...
So, as far as what we're trying to do, Richard Alan Miller and I are trying to go to Europe in July.
And we've already got four cities that want to have us speak.
And what happens is we do it the cheapest way we can, which means that we have to raise the money at each talk to pay for our hotels or B&Bs.
And in order to go to the next venue and then the people who offer the venues are people that are covering the cost of the venue and then we do what's called splitting the door with them and so we split the ticket sales and we try to keep the tickets, the cost of the tickets as low as possible because we want as many people to be able to see us in person as possible and take advantage of that situation.
So that's what we're really trying to do.
And as I say, we're doing this in July.
Right now, we've got, if you go on ProjectHamletPortal.com, you can see this information.
It's actually, you'll have to scroll through because it's on the second part of my blog, the second page.
It's the European tour.
In fact, I guess I'll put this on the screen right now because that'll help too.
And I have a video that explains about it as well.
So I'm going to take this down and see if I can...
Okay, so now what I'm going to do is show you Project Camelot.
And we're doing this while we're waiting for Mike to get onto Skype, and I am assuming he has trouble Because I don't see him.
So he must have had something go wrong with his computer.
I mean, this is just like typical that they just don't want him to talk.
That's as far as what I'm concerned.
That's the way I see it.
But anyway, so I want to draw your attention to a video I did explaining what's going on about our European tour.
We basically need to raise the funding for flights.
Now, at the moment, someone donated some money towards flights, but it's not enough.
So it costs about $1,200 round-trip minimum for each person to go to Europe.
Well, at least to go round-trip to England.
And we actually have two speaking engagements in England.
And I think this is showing up on the screen.
Let me make sure.
Yeah.
Okay, so we have Watford in the UK, and that's on July 9th and 10th, and we have London in the weekend of the 15th through the 17th, and we're trying to confirm those exact dates, probably two days in London.
So what we'll do is we'll both do like a main presentation, and then the following day we'll do a follow-up workshop.
And in my case, I'll probably explain about Kundalini, And it looks like Mike's showing up back here again, so maybe you couldn't get Skype going.
Mike, are you there?
Hello?
Mike?
Hi, Mike?
Yeah, I'm right here.
Okay.
I take it you couldn't get Skype happening?
The YouTube thing just gave me an echo.
Can you hear me now?
Testing one, two, three.
And it says live in the upper right-hand corner on the video.
Yes.
video Thank you.
But you're breaking up, Mike, at the moment.
Did you try to go on Skype at all?
Do you want me to shut this down and try Skype?
Well, that was the idea.
I think, can you say a few more words and let's see how your sound is now?
A few more words.
How am I sounding?
How am I sounding?
by being interfered by the...
I was thinking that Skype might be better Can you try talking a little bit?
You know, talk about...
Continue a little bit longer and we'll see how it is.
And I'll have to interrupt you again.
And you're going to have to go on Skype.
I wish you would type your phone number in this chat that's on the right-hand side.
This is viewable only to us.
So it's our eyes only.
Okay.
I'm right here.
I'm going to give you the link to the power...
Yes, I've already done that for you while you were gone.
So can you type...
Oh, if I have to do the phone number thing?
Just in case...
Yeah, I'm going to put it in right now.
Just in case I lose you...
Okay, let me just get my phone.
I just need your number.
I don't think he's understanding what I'm saying.
Oh, God.
Okay, that's great.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm going to have some landmines.
Okay, we'll try to cover it both ways here.
Alright.
Okay.
The Skype thing.
Okay, go ahead and try talking for a little bit and let's hear if your sound is any better.
It's Godzilla!
He's on Tokyo!
You can't hear me, right?
I can hear you a little bit, but your brain...
You are breaking up.
Can you hear me?
Breaking up.
I'm breaking up.
The moon.
Can you?
It was picked up.
Did you hear that at all coherently?
Or is it broken up?
Repeat.
Repeat.
All right.
The cow jumped over.
For the moon, hijacked by the anti-gravity craft, then was killed and ate by the Nazis.
Okay.
Is that a bell at all to you?
Can you hear it?
Yes, I heard that.
So if you want to try to continue, you were explaining about...
Except that I think maybe this is going to be impossible because I think you're going to have to go on Skype.
I'm a blowhard.
I'll talk.
I started trying to improve the mid-efficiency in low technology areas.
That's where I started.
And then from there, I realized how much you can do with just carrying it on your back and weapons in your hand.
We needed to have armored vehicles that could prevent us from being turned into pink mist by any explosive reactions You know, from mills and mortars and artillery and RPGs.
So you need to have a mechanized warfare, which is higher technology.
And so I pursued that, but ran into...
Still run into a bunch of people who want to fight the enemy.
Then they wonder why we have high...
We go overseas and we bleed, because they don't want to combine arms.
The best way to see the combined arms effect would be if you saw the movie Braveheart.
Or the person with Sean Connery.
You'll see how they work.
Archers will shoot their arrows, and that'll take away the guys with the pikes.
And the guys with the horse can then charge in.
You know, you're working different angles together, combining arms.
But I found, to my horror, the U.S. military is full, who want to showboat.
Their contribution to the Combined Arms team, and they don't want to work with other people and win the battle decisively.
They want to go around showboating, just their part, and then they wonder why it's easily thwarted by the enemy.
So anyway, I just said, did that get across?
Definitely can type in all of us.
If you want, I'll shut this down and go to Skype.
They're always trying to make you download something at Skype.
Yeah, Mike, I want you to shut it down and go on Skype.
Can you shut down and go on Skype?
Yep.
I'm going to shut down and go to Skype.
Bye.
Okay, thank you.
Bye.
I thought everybody was so helpful with, you know, that Google movie with the two bumbling guys.
They don't have any customer service.
I know, it's terrible.
It is just the worst.
So go ahead and hang up.
Hang up.
I will stay on this channel, and I will be able to broadcast your Skype through here.
Okay, so once again, Mike is...
I think he got the message this time and he is going to go to his Skype.
Just so people understand, because I think you guys really don't, some people, I mean I know there's some people that must understand, but what happens is I do this every week and some people have great reception and some people don't.
And some people always have problems with their, I guess it's their connection.
And other people don't And so what happens is that it's very hard to tell because before the show we can talk and we can hear each other and everything's fine.
It's when we start to broadcast that the issue happens because...
In Mike's case, we have surveillance and always with Camelot.
So they're sitting by deciding which people they want to interfere with and which they want to let speak.
In Mike's case, you should want to listen to him all the more.
because they are interfering with him in a big way trying to prevent this interview from happening and you have to understand that you can listen to lots of radio talk show hoax and you can have perfect sound but you have to understand that they're not as dangerous as I am and they don't ask the kinds of questions I ask and therefore they don't get interfered with I do and so do my guests because they are important They
have important things to say, and I will make sure they get a chance to say them in any way that I can.
So that's what's going on.
And sounds like there's a helicopter flying overhead.
And so this is Camelot, and it's different.
And all you have to know is that we have enough interference, often enough, where you know we're flying over the target, literally.
We're the ones that have the best information, and I ask the absolute, cutting-edge, most important questions, and I also have a way of putting it all together that other talk show hosts are too scared to do.
Even some of the most popular, so-called best, I guess, in the mainstream, are just scared shitless to actually do the kinds of things I do and say the things I do.
So this is a great example of that.
So if you'll stand by, those of you that are still interested and want to see what they're trying to prevent Mike Sparks from saying tonight...
Let me see if I can get him on Skype and we'll give this another try.
God.
Okay, so...
So far, he's not showing up on Skype.
I'm going to try calling him because this time I got his phone number.
So if he's not able to get on Skype, I'll just call him on the phone.
What I do is I'll use my Skype phone to do this, so bear with me.
And stand by one second while I try this.
And stand by one second.
Hello?
Hello?
Mike?
Are you there?
Mike?
Hello?
Mike?
Hello?
Are you there?
Mike?
Mike?
Hello?
Are you there?
Mike?
Hello?
Mike?
Hold on.
We're having some kind of interference.
Oh, my God.
Mike Hello I
I can't hear you.
I'm right here.
I'm going to try the webcam.
No, no, I hear you.
I hear you now.
Okay, stay right where you are.
You can hear me now?
I can hear you now.
I must have Verizon.
I do not have any stock in Verizon.
That was a cheap joke.
Okay.
Excellent.
So here we are again, and I just want to let everyone know that actually we're...
So we have Mike on the line.
Mike, say hello to everyone.
Hello, everybody.
Mike Sparks here on an adventure.
Yes.
Welcome to me, Sean Connery.
Okay.
Okay, and because I have you on two computers, I'm not even going to be able to look at the chat to see if this is going to record properly, but I can tell it's recording at my end.
So what we're going to do is just conduct this interview as if it's working, because your audio is now fine, and hopefully the people listening will be able to hear us, okay?
And that's what's going to happen right now.
So...
What I wanted you to do was you were starting to talk about your time in the military and how crazy things are and how I know you're something of an efficiency expert when it comes to the military.
Is that right?
Right.
I was starting off as the lowest form of military force as the dismounted infantrymen in the Marines, and they weren't very efficient, still not very efficient at doing that.
But while I was there, you're kind of a victim.
You don't want to die, and the first enemy that you have to defeat is called the Earth, the battle against the Earth.
You have to defeat that or you're not going to be able to defeat anybody else.
U.S. military doesn't acknowledge that.
They're idiots.
They think that we just work straight into killing the bad guys, the human enemy, which is the battle against man.
I found out the hard way, by almost dying on an exercise from hypothermia, when everything I had was soaked because of this crappy year, that you've got to defeat the baddie first.
You've got to defeat the battle against the earth.
You've got to win that.
I saw people also die from heat stroke While I was in basic training, they actually had the concept of water rationing.
It was disgusting.
They thought the human body could be rationed with water.
So we're running around MCR... So one guy was already in convulsions.
We handed our water to him.
They poured it on the guy.
Guy died later that evening.
It's because you've got these macho people with weak egos going around trying to validate their manhood.
It's a sick cult.
U.S. military is permeated narcissism, not objective external reality connection.
So people die, and you see that, and you get sick and disgusted of it, and you find that there's better ways.
Other armies are more humbler.
Israelis learned in 1967 war when they found that enemy tanks were not doing anything.
Because the enemy was already dead.
You know, they died already from heat stroke inside their tanks.
You've got to push water into people.
So after four years of people dying, plus, you know, from my joining military, plus decades, they finally realized, oh, we can't grab water ration.
We've got to force water into people.
So they went to the other extreme, where you're informing...
It's finished.
So then we started having people die from being over-hydrated.
But it's all based on a voluntary force.
In 1969, Nixon got rid of the draft, and that means adults are not in the U.S. military.
You've got people who are in the military with an agenda.
Their agenda is either to belong...
Mike, can you hear me?
Yes.
You broke up.
So there's someone trying to interfere when you say something important.
They're trying to interfere with your words.
So the last sentence...
That you said about the U.S. military.
Could you repeat that?
That's permeated by narcissism.
It's a military that's an all-volunteer force.
1969, Nixon got rid of the draft.
So we don't have adults that are in the military who just want to get the job done.
You've got people with weak egos that are trying to...
And all these guys have a price that they take when they go along with that.
They will not change the way they do things because they're dependent upon their piece of the combined arms puzzle getting limelighted.
They don't want to use all the tools in the box to solve the problem.
They just want to use their tool.
And then we wonder why we go overseas and we bleed.
Because they don't want to smother the enemy.
They don't want to overwhelm the enemy of combat overmatch, seal the border, drain the swamp, end the mosquitoes, end the malaria, so to speak.
They don't want to decisively solve the problem.
Because you've got these people voluntarily joining the military to prop up their ego and or to get middle class wages.
So when you're surrounded by people like this who just won't wear a Gore-Tex jacket because they think you're being a wimp, and I can't use the P word because that's the word we use in the military.
I don't want to be offensive.
But every time you try to do something with more efficiency, they say you're just being weakling and you're just being a P for doing that.
And I say, look, if we would conserve our strength, overcome the battle against the earth, then we'll have more energy to kick the enemy's ass.
Okay?
But they don't see it like that.
And that's what I usually fight on a daily basis in the U.S. military is that we don't have adults in the U.S. military that are connected to objective reality.
They all have an agenda.
They want to do things their stupid way because their ego is intertwined with that stupid way of doing things.
And I will say it, that it's stupid.
Because, you know, when you lose a bunch of people, a few of your friends like I have, you owe it to them to tell the truth.
And that's just a low-tech angle.
That's why we're getting nowhere, fighting the CIA. Okay, they're cutting you out.
Mike?
That's why you're getting nowhere fighting who?
The CIA? The CIA's ISIS rebels in western Iraq and Syria.
We're not getting anywhere because we're fighting them even.
They've got AK-47s, AKMs, and RPGs, and we're trying to fight them with our rebels that have M-16s, M-4 carbines, whatever, and some disposable rockets.
I wonder why we're not getting anywhere, and maybe we'll play whack them.
Okay, do me a favor, Mike.
Turn your video off so we only have audio and that'll help your bandwidth.
Can you turn your video camera off?
Turn the video off so that way I don't turn anyone into stone.
Good idea.
No, nobody can see you anyway because you're on a different computer now.
But don't hang up on me.
Hello?
Jesus Christ.
Okay, we're audio only now.
Great.
Okay.
Yeah, I got all dressed up for you.
I got my hat.
I had my hat on and my high-speed T-shirt.
I've got a whole closet full of T-shirts.
I know, I know.
And, well, we have a great...
I've got T-shirts going out in my ears.
We have your poster, and we've got your picture looking like a paratrooper.
On the picture...
We've got the 15 minutes of fame going on there.
But as I was saying about the military efficiency, I was just talking about the ground maneuver part of the U.S. military is not where it needs to be.
We're dismounted.
People are not good because they've got too much gear on their back.
And what I would do, what I do, is I'll try to find one piece of equipment that could do three or four jobs.
Well, not half-assed.
So we can leave 20 or 30 pounds of gear.
So whenever I went in the field, I was always moving at 47 miles an hour.
I'm a nervous energy type guy anyway.
I'm moving faster than everybody because I'm not carrying as much.
I don't need as much as the other people do to survive in the field because I know how to, you know, let's say take a poncho, put some loops on the poncho so it turns into a tent, and then you can connect the poncho liner to the poncho, put, you know, a head hole into it.
So I... Pounds of equipment instead of 30 pounds.
So anyway, there's a limit, though, to what you can do with dismounted infantry.
And like I said, we've got to combine arms and have mechanical advantage so we fight the enemy from overmatch, not from undermatch.
And that means tanks.
You'd be surprised how many people in the U.S. Army and the Marine Corps don't want tanks.
It bothers them.
It looks like a penis falls off.
They don't want to use tanks.
They want to fight the enemy from undermatch or even.
My M-16 versus his M-4 party.
And his versus AK-47.
You know, they want to do this dueling.
And an adult who doesn't have any kind of ego vacuum is trying to fill in the military.
Just say, let's just kick these guys' butt.
Solve the problem.
Find out what their political ailment is.
Get a political settlement.
Seal the border.
Get rid of the troublemakers.
And let's get a life.
You know, we don't have people like that against military adults.
And I'm damn tired of talking to these weak codependents that don't want to do anything that makes more sense and is more efficient.
And I nail them.
I just tell them what it is.
It's narcissism.
They don't want to use every tool in the toolbox to defeat the enemy because there's less glory in it for them.
Let me just get an example.
We did an exercise.
We fought against the Off-4 at the Sugar Gordon Mount site, JRTC, Fort Polk, Louisiana, armpit of the army.
Ha ha, sorry about that, people.
But anyway, it's a very miserable place.
The commander did not want to use us.
We were National Guard.
We had tanks, you know, M1 Abrams, M2 Bradleys, M113 Gap.
If he had attacked with us and his light infantry, we would have overwhelmed the city, that the village won the fight.
Everyone would have got the glory.
He says, nope, we're going to attack with the light infantry at 3 o'clock in the morning.
They died in the wire.
You know, this is all laser tag.
We call it miles.
Okay, multiple integrated laser engagement system.
It doesn't work by half the time.
You've got to call the umpire.
I killed that guy.
Anyway, you're doing this laser tag.
Anyway, they're all dead at 3 o'clock in the morning.
And then they go, hey...
Mike?
Wait, wait, wait.
Mike, you're cutting out again.
Are you saying, was this an exercise or was this the real thing?
This is an exercise.
Just to show you that if they won't do it in an exercise, they damn well aren't going to do it with his live bullets.
Wow.
That's amazing.
They don't want to use every tool in the box because if you use everything, the fight goes down quick and easy.
So what I say is, okay, fine.
We need to do the exercise twice.
One is worst case scenario.
You are the only guy.
You're the heroes.
Just infantry.
You've got to clear the city.
Worst case scenario.
Then I think we need to do the exercise again and throw everything but the kitchen sink in it so we know what the right...
Dealing with these people, they're just...
Like dealing with children.
Do you want to do this right and live?
Or do you want to do it wrong and die?
And then nothing follows.
Lights go out.
Nothing follows.
So I think we need to do the exercises twice.
Worst case scenario and the best case scenario.
Okay, Mike, I want to ask you a question.
We hear about the tanks.
They're not protected against landmines and things.
In Iraq.
Right.
The problem is that when you use a tank, it's in different weight categories.
You want to use the lightest tank possible when you're fighting a nonlinear battlefield enemy like rebels in Iraq and Afghanistan.
So you're not on the roads and trails.
That's the first thing is avoid the landmines in the first place.
The wheeled vehicles cannot do that.
They have high ground pressure and then the enemy is just waiting to blow up the wheeled vehicles.
So you start with the lightest tank possible, which we have thousands of M113 captains to use that.
And then the Army doesn't want to do it because the light guys don't want to be seen in tanks because the guys that use tanks are fat and out of shape.
So we got half the Army and all the Marine Corps don't want to use tanks because their penis is going to fall off if they've seen it in a tracked vehicle.
Wow.
That's amazing.
Okay, now, to get back to your question, we can take the torsion bars out of the tracked vehicles and use external road arm suspension.
I know I'm getting a little wonkish here.
But then we can V-shape the bottom of the tracked tanks.
And then if they do run over a landmine, they vent the blast, just like the MRAP vehicles, which we got from the South Africans.
Right.
So the answer to your question is that we're not upgrading our tanks to the maximum capability to be cross-country mobile, to be unpredictable.
Hello?
They just don't want to do what's best.
They got agendas, ego agendas.
They will not do it.
I will tell them in their face.
I've done it before many times.
If we go outside, we'll have the fistfight wrestling match.
I mean, what's it going to damn well take for them to wake up?
And they don't want to wake up.
That's the problem of not having adults in the U.S. military through, you know, two years of national service.
Now, I'm not saying bring the draft back.
I think we should have two years of national service where you can serve in the military, police corps, conservation corps, civilian space program.
Okay.
So you have other choices than just being in the military.
Now, this discussion is supposed to be also about mind control.
And so at some point, we want to make a transition.
Are you okay?
You sound like you're choking.
Alright, so what I wanted to do is you have a website called combatreform.org.
Do you want people to take a look at that website because you suggest a lot of things on there?
Would that be worthwhile?
Yeah, everything that I've said has been documented in a better way, presented in a better way with dates, times, figures, facts, and combat reform.
But go to MI7 Facebook page, James Bond is Real, and then I've got the up-to-date mind control stuff.
Now, basically, you know, you research things and you get things from other areas unexpectedly.
I was not expecting to get secret space program stuff out of Boward's book, which is called Operation Mind Control, second edition, 1994.
The U.S. government bought all the printed copies to try to keep it out of the public's hands.
You can get it now as a...
Okay, well, there's...
I'm going to tell you the secrets.
The secrets that you're not going to read 818 pages, let's face it, people...
Hypnosis is the key.
You can hypnotize somebody and make them do something against their will.
But not everyone can be hypnotized.
That's where the drugs come in and the electroshock and all these dirty tricks.
The secret is drugs and electroshock and all this nasty torture stuff.
It's to lower your resistance to hypnosis.
And if you hypnotize somebody, you can make them do anything.
You can make them kill, even if they don't want to.
You can make them speak, you know, tell secrets.
Hypnosis is the key.
So the question is, how good is this hypnosis?
Obviously, you can read the book, and it talks about strapping people down to the table, and electroshock, and then the LSD, and all these exotic, cure-rare poisons and everything.
I call that hard work.
And you do all these nasty stuff, okay?
But also, I think there's a light hypnosis.
And that's what I was really reading the book for, to see what is backwards.
To be hypnotized.
That means that TV and radio is being used to hypnotize the American public.
So what that means is that this is taking us to try to anticipate what the enemy is doing.
These are criminals running the U.S. government.
They are putting subliminal messages in TV and radio.
We need to find this out, prove it.
And some of these messages are mental blocks.
I don't know if they're doing it in the U.S. military, like, I can't have a tank because then my penis falls off.
I wouldn't doubt it.
But I'm just saying, when you run into mental blocks of people saying, the government did 9-11, it's an inside job, and you need to get these mental blocks, I think they've been put there, or the moon landings were faked.
I think that they're piping in subliminal messages at a sophisticated level.
When you watch broadcast television.
So, first thing everyone should do is stop watching broadcast television and listening to radio.
Because there's something going down in your head.
Some kind of hypnosis.
And it's only gotten more sophisticated since World War II. As World War II was ending, people were looking forward to television.
They really were.
If you go to popular mechanics, mechanics, We're looking forward to television as a reward for winning World War II, you know, the American people.
So you've got to think that the American people have been hypnotized since the end of World War II. Absolutely hypnotized with mental blocks.
So what that means is no amount of facts and reasoning.
Believe me, I've spent three decades talking facts.
Don't, you know, blue in my face.
And it just seems to me that these people are brainwashed.
They're hypnotized.
The American people, I mean, I've got people on my own team, you know, DC and my own strike force.
If you saw the Green Beret movie with a guy who played Sulu, George Takai, his favorite line in the Green Berets movie, and Jane King, the name of the journalist, it says, I have VC in my strike force. the name of the journalist, it says, I have VC George Takai says that.
It's the best line ever.
And what he said?
Mike?
Mike, say that again.
What do you mean by VC? Okay, wait, wait, slow down.
What is VC standing for?
Yeah, okay.
So he's saying he has them in his own strike force.
What does that mean?
That means while he's going out on patrol to fight...
Harming that effort.
Okay, you were just cut out.
You were just cut out again.
I don't know why that's just such a big secret.
I don't know why the Green Beret movie, you can get it on DVD for like $3.
Use the DVD store.
Okay.
He's saying as a principal that he's got...
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, unbelievable.
No.
Somebody doesn't like that movie.
You figured the fascists that don't like what I'm saying would like that movie.
Yeah.
Right?
Absolutely.
You know, Sulu.
Okay, so wait, let's get back to light hypnosis.
So you're reading Bowert's book.
You come to the conclusion that light hypnosis would be better than what they're putting out there.
A lot of people think MKUltra is the drug thing.
I would read that stuff and I'm like, I don't want to read about this crap.
And you know, Bowert finally says that hypnosis is what works.
I always thought that hypnosis worked too.
Finally got someone saying that.
I don't want to hear about all this Timothy Leary crap, LSD. MKUltra is not drugs.
The drugs are just to get people who can't be hypnotized to be hypnotized.
Hypnotized, hypnotism works.
It's dangerous crap.
And I think that they've taken that and made it into sophisticated light hypnosis that basically put the Americas to sleep.
That's why...
Even hypnosis, they've got mental blocks.
They'll say, no, I can't believe that happens.
I think that those mental blocks have been put there by broadcast television and radio.
And that's, Bauer said that.
So, when it comes to secret space program, if you're a crewman, let's say an anti-gravity craft, right?
That means a hard hypnotizing to touch.
You know, they strap to the table, put false memories, erase memories.
They do all that dirty crap.
And so, basically, that's why the people that are actually flying these flying saucers are not coming out in the open.
Telling people, hey, they've got mental blocks to prevent them from doing that.
And it gets nasty.
If you see it in the Bourne series, they'll commit suicide.
You know, they've got triggers that they start misbehaving too bad.
They'll just commit suicide and kill themselves.
All this nasty stuff, the Manchurian Candidate stuff, came out in about 1959 in Richard Condon's book.
Ian Fleming showed it in the last book, you know, The Man with the Golden Gun.
and he had James Bond try to kill M.
You know, these people put the warnings out there The American people are stuck in Mayberry RFD. They just think the world is just some kind of simple, carry some rucksack or some potatoes in the backpack.
They don't understand life is more complicated than that.
They refuse to accept the reality of hypnosis.
If you ask anybody, what about Sirhan Sirhan, the guy that supposedly killed RFK when there was like 20 different, more than eight.
Anyway, the security guard, Caesar, Fane Caesar is the one that killed RFK.
But anyway, everyone knows that Sirhan Sirhan's been hypnotized.
I mean, he's a loony tune.
He's got weird drawings and all that kind of stuff.
But they don't ever apply it.
They don't say, okay, if it can happen once, it can happen again and again and again.
So it gets down to basically the American people don't put two and two together.
Could be because they're being lightly hypnotized, and they've got mental blocks.
Okay, well, I'm not so sure whether Caesar was actually the one who killed RFK.
It wasn't Sir Anne Sir Anne, so I guess if it was a girl, it was not.
That's fine with me.
I'd like to date her.
If you can hook me up with the polka dot dress girl, that'll be fine.
dress girl that'll be fine okay but to get back to uh to the mind control aspect have you have you looked into your own career in the military to see whether or not you in fact were being mind controlled while you were there right now low level
Okay, but to get back to the mind control aspect, have you looked into your own career in the military to see whether or not you, in fact, were being mind controlled while you were there?
Right.
unsophisticated time in the marine corps we were brainwashed by long periods of time standing at attention with your eyes you know slightly out of focus you know in front of your footlocker and then you know brainwashed of lies about the marine corps how great it is and all that kind of crap so the answer is yes uh
and you're being you're being you're being cut off again Can you say a sentence about that again?
Okay, the Marine Corps sandomasochistic boot camp is an outgrowth of the Korean War brainwashing experience.
It embarrassed a bunch of these, you know, military narcissists.
So they said, well, we'll brainwash them before we have them go overseas and fight the commies.
So the Marine Corps, what they'll do is they'll lie to you.
For instance, they want you to know that you're disposable.
So in one of my incidents, and I have a photographic memory.
I can tell you exactly everything that happened in my basic boot camp training in the Marine Corps.
It's a demented crowd.
Like I said, I already told you about the water rationing, right?
Hopefully that got across.
They thought they needed rationing water.
Anyway, we had this one guy, Lieutenant Wilkie.
I'm not withholding his name because I want to punch his lights out.
And Wilkie did the inspection arms thing while we're standing in tension.
And, you know, you present your arms, your M16A1 Mattel rifle, very cheap, flimsy.
Anyway, he grabbed...
And then you do the little thing, and then your bolts open.
But it's so frightening.
Okay, you broke up again.
You said he grabbed or he did something?
Your rifle, right, your M16A1 flimsy Mattel toy rifle.
Right.
Which is so flimsy that if you're a little bit too rough with it, the bolt slides, the bolt closes.
So he grabs it, you know, you go to inspection arms, and you're holding the rifle upright vertically.
He's supposed to do the macho thing and go grab the rifle.
And he shows his forearm.
Oh, look how tough I am.
And then he looks at the rifle.
And he goes, alright, Private, is the bolt closed?
Or is it open?
I can't fucking tell.
Oops, sorry.
I can't tell because my head and eyes are looking straight to the front as I'm supposed to.
He's saying...
Okay, you're breaking up again.
All right.
The private says, the private thinks the bolt is open.
Anyway, he gives the rifle back to me.
He says, no, it wasn't.
It was closed.
So anyway, he does his inspection of the other troop, you know, the other Marine recruits.
Goes away, and then I look at the thing, you know, finally when he's out of the area, and my bolt was open.
He lied.
Wow.
But desperate to get Marines.
He was brain damaged, for real, from fighting, you know, in gangs in Chicago.
He was a black guy.
He could not remember his combination to his padlock.
So when the Marines drill instructors are yelling and screaming at you, you've got seconds to open up your footlocker, get your stuff out, and do your thing.
I have to go over here and open up his lock all the time, which I don't mind.
You know, he's right next door to me.
He's recycling.
If you can't open up, you're locked.
And he says, look under my bunk.
And under his bunk, he had stuffed under his bunk his shoe polish, his foot powder, his razors.
Everything he needed was stuffed under the mattress.
Oh, come on.
We have a wrinkle on our bunk, and the bunk is thrown overboard.
You know what I mean?
The guy made this bunk again.
This guy is up.
Okay, you broke up again.
This guy has stuffed everything under his mattress.
I understand, but are you saying this, was he a sergeant, or what was he?
He's a fellow recruit trying to get through basic training.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
So I have to keep opening his lockup, because he can't remember three numbers.
Right.
He's so brain damaged.
Wow.
Okay, so anyway, he gets...
Okay, you're breaking up again.
Okay, there's an obstacle course.
The first part of the obstacle course at the 40-foot tower or 34-foot, whatever, it's really high.
There's a little moat.
It's just dirty water.
But there's like a 10-foot section that theoretically, if you're going down the metal cable and you're an idiot and you drop yourself, you will not fall into the water.
You might die.
So he froze at the top of the obstacle course.
Lieutenant Wilkie comes up there.
He says, either you come down here by the way you're supposed to, or you're getting court-martialed.
He says, nope, I'm not coming down.
So he climbs down the obstacle course, and then everybody says, oh, it's going to hit the fan.
We all are standing in tension in our bunks, you know, in front of our bunks.
And the MPs come, and they just brutalize this black guy.
You know, in the classroom, they have an area in the front of the barracks where you just have some space in the front where there's no bunks.
And that's where you do your punishment.
If you're being punished you do run in place, straddle hop, you know mountain climbers, you know just calisthenics until you drop.
Anyway, they took him to the front and then they brutalized him with a nightstick and everything like that.
They said, you know, inventory every one of his items, you know, his duffel bag, sea bag.
Okay, you're breaking up again.
I don't understand.
Why did they brutalize him?
To make an example of him.
I know, but why...
I get that part, but what did he do wrong?
Could you tell me again?
Being a human being and not having brain damage.
He didn't do anything wrong.
He shouldn't have been in the Marines.
But they wanted the numbers.
So they were going to knock...
The lieutenant, Wilkie, and Wilkie screwed him over.
And then they brutalized the guy.
So basically, I... Basically, you what?
I decided to be an officer wouldn't be a jerk like Wilkie.
I would be in favor of the men, take care of them, do the mission efficiently, and fight these jerks.
And did you?
Yeah, I am an officer in the Marine Corps.
Okay.
And I fought against a lot of the evils that are in the Marine Corps, and I realized it's an organization that can't be saved.
Its basis is malignant narcissism.
You know, they lie.
They say the Marine Corps, amphibious operations have never failed.
You know, there wouldn't be a Marine Corps or a United States of America if in 1588 the Spanish Armada, which had an amphibious army on board their ships, if Francis Drake and his fire ships and the battle against the earth, the weather had not destroyed the Spanish Armada in 1588.
There wouldn't be...
Arrogant idiots.
They don't study warfare, and there's no humility.
And they do things like rough people up, like that black guy with brain damage.
It infuriates me.
I'm ashamed that I didn't speak up for him.
Because if I had spoke up for him, my career would have been ruined.
You know, I would have been kicked out of basic training, stigmatized.
Yeah, that's typical, you know, sort of military sort of protocol.
But...
It's not helping...
I appreciate that.
So...
In terms of the Secret Space Program, I'm really curious if you wrap your mind around the notion that, you know what the word built-in obsolescence means?
Of course.
You know, I'm talking about what they do is racketeer with the low technology problems.
That's why we still have oil-based economies.
Yes, exactly.
To keep these sheeple in place, to keep them sedate.
And we have a military that isn't 100% efficient.
On purpose.
On purpose, right?
On purpose.
Yes.
So they have low tech.
Isn't the Marines like...
I don't know.
The Marines and the Army are considered like the grunts.
Is that correct?
Right.
But it should be maneuver.
We should talk about maneuver and not just pointing out how rough we have it.
The point of maneuver is to decisively end the conflict by denying the enemy a place to live You know, a city with sustenance from the civil population and border control.
You know, war is not just blowing people up.
We should be maneuvering to a situation that causes the...
We just trounced them so bad and then they decide whatever we want to have them do as a political settlement.
But the point is there's three different types of military force.
There's firepower, maneuver, and combat engineering.
The U.S. military doesn't even talk about maneuver and combat engineering.
They're all obsessed with firepower shooting because they get off on killing people.
There's a lot of people in the U.S. military who are psycho-sociopaths.
We don't scream.
Those people, and block them from joining the military.
Poneurologists have concluded one-fourth of all human beings are psychosociopaths.
That means either they have no conscience, psychopaths, or they have weak consciences, sociopaths.
One-fourth.
Now, that's probably a psychosociopath.
They don't explain why things aren't as screwed up as they are, and you basically have your guard up, you know, as Mr.
Sulu would say, shields up.
Okay.
People joining the military voluntarily, the number of psychosociopaths could be higher from the general population.
Because you've got these people that are psychosociopaths that love the war.
Right.
They love what you can do in the military that's supposed to be authorized.
Like a license to kill.
Right, but you have 25% psycho-sociopaths.
40% of all people are weak followers.
They just do whatever the authority figure tells them to do.
And there's only 35% of all people are conscience stewards.
That's people like myself, who don't give a damn what the government or authority figure says.
They're going to do what's morally right, period.
We are in the minority.
Right.
The conscience stewards.
Okay, now the people that are doing the secret space program, they have their own ego trip.
Their ego trip is the mad scientist thing.
Oh my god.
Okay, you broke up again.
Wait, wait, you broke up again.
So the mad scientist, after that, say it again.
The scientists are on their own ego trip, which is if we can think about it, we'll try it.
We'll do it.
The mad scientist thing.
Maybe if we add more energy fuel, we can blow up the planet.
You know, they're on their own.
Okay, you're breaking off again.
They're being fed by the occult.
That's right.
Secret space programs and secret free energy and all that stuff comes from the occult.
That means actual supernatural fallen angel beings are giving them technology.
And a secular man can't say no to that.
Hey, I can give you anti-gravity so you don't have to fly with these, you know, clunky airplanes.
Okay, what do I got to do?
Just deny God, don't read the Bible.
Hey, don't do that anyway.
You know, they'll take that.
I mean, secular man is a reductionist.
Yeah, but actually there's plenty of religious fanatics in the military.
In fact, there's probably more religious fanatics in the military than there are what you're calling secular man.
They act like assholes.
They just use the Bible to say their interpretation of the Bible is I'm a more intolerant asshole than anyone else.
That's not Christianity.
They're not really Christians.
A Christian person realizes that we're all fallen.
We all need to be pardoned and have some mercy.
If it wasn't for the grace of God, I would be in the same shoes as those ragheads overseas with no money and no economy and all that.
But they don't see it that way.
So I've got...
Okay, you're breaking up again.
The military is an arrogant, snobby outfit.
They look down on people in the military, Jessica Lynch, etc.
So if people in the military look down on you on your rank, you know, if you're not Delta Force, if you're a SEAL or something like that, you know, like our Pyramid of Ego, Jessica Lynch is just down there just above theses.
Well, how do you think they're going to treat people overseas?
Because everything's based on this existentialist crap you are, what you make yourself into, which is a lie.
So the U.S. military is permeating with that.
So for us to do wars better, if we're going to help a country that's on its feet, we need a subnational conflict corps composed of adults.
Who are snobs, who are going to just secure the border, get the infrastructure up and running, not be this ugly American running around with sunglasses on, and in tracked tanked vehicles, not just walking around like an ice cream truck asking to be blown up.
The Clinton-era wheeled permissive peacekeeping vehicle.
You know, we're not going to draw around, you know, ice cream truck is coming.
Okay, here comes the landmine.
Yeah, exactly.
We need to be not a bunch of schmucks, but we need adults doing it.
So the Subnational Conflict Corps would be a specialized part of the U.S. military, not everybody.
But what the U.S. military does is racketeering.
We rotate a brigade in and out of Afghanistan and Iraq.
We used to do it.
We had 15 brigades at one time in Iraq.
And that way everybody gets to play, you know, Coindinista, counterinsurgent, you know, stability and support operations, whatever term, buzzword you want to use.
Everyone gets to play rebel, fighter, you know, Lawrence of Arabia, okay, man of La Mancha, whatever.
Everyone gets a chance to do it, but they're not ready for it.
These generals say everybody is full spectrum.
If you're a Marine or an Army soldier, you're full spectrum.
You can do everything from hand out ice cream, from wheeling, Okay, you're breaking up.
You're breaking up.
Can you say that again?
Everyone, these generals are racketeers.
They want to maximize the amount of money they suck off from the taxpayers by rotating brigades in that are not qualified to do subnational conflicts.
They say that these people in these brigades, just generic, you know, vanilla, big army, big Marine Corps brigades, are full spectrum.
That means they can do everything from the ice cream cone, hand out, Okay, everything from the ice cream cone handout to what?
Nuclear war, you know.
Okay.
Nation states are exchanging nuclear weapons.
It's just a lie.
They can't do that.
Okay, so the troops are not equipped to be full spectrum, as you call it.
No, they're not.
And they're not equipped to dominate the fight.
They're just equipped to just go overseas and bleed.
And prolong the battle because it's just a war machine.
Yeah?
Staying in Iraq 10 years or going to Iraq...
I'm going to say 15 times, but it's actually more.
But, you know, let's say 50 times.
You go to Iraq 50 times in 10 years because you're rotating brigades in and out, in and out, in and out.
There's more ke-ching in that.
But it's immoral.
The moral thing to do is create a specialized subnational conflict court.
As soon as you take down the, you know, governmental head, Saddam Hussein, you get the government on its feet.
You've got these adults who seal the border.
You don't stay beyond a year.
And there'll be some money in that.
You know, they'll have to have some neat gadgetry, you know, to fortify the border and all that.
But that's the way the Army needs to gain its money.
The Army needs to get us money by being more professional and soft.
I love that for dramatic pause.
Okay.
And you broke off again.
And needs to do that to do what?
We need to end the conflict within a year with a subnational conflict core, not prolong it for a decade.
Right.
Okay.
And we will get...
And we will get what?
Well, they're always worried about money.
You're going to need to have rapidly erectable walls, sensors, security fencing.
In other words, you'll get your budget by being morally sound and ending conflict.
You know, you pay for it up front instead of sending these half-ass brigades.
Okay, you're breaking up again.
We need to solve the problem instead of sending half-ass brigades that don't solve the problem in and out and prolonging the problem.
Okay, what I want to do, Mike, though, is because we're really...
Thank you for this wonderful summary of sort of the...
Sort of the facade in front of the military and what they put out versus what they really are and how they're screwing our troops over right, left, and center, which is actually true.
But what I want to ask you is, given the fact that we have anti-gravity craft and we have all kinds of bells and whistles and toys in the secret space program that the normal military is not being able to access, what you really have there is a number of people, You know, boys being raised to go to war that are going to definitely be just cannon fodder, right?
Right.
That is correct.
So, what is your thinking in terms of changing this paradigm?
Do you have any thoughts on what you can do, a person, you know, of your abilities, in terms of breaking that wall down between our two militaries?
We have a rogue military that's part of the Secret Space Program.
We have the actual military.
Have you ever been contacted by actual military who became aware that there's a rogue military that has, you know, technology hundreds of years in advance?
Of course.
Now, what happened was you discovered this, from my case, in the 90s.
I discovered there was a secret military, we'll call it, and I went through a cutout, talked to them about the continuity of government, because I was at Fort Bragg, and that's the home of the Airborne, and so was your high-speed I interviewed him.
I did the Kerry Cassidy thing.
So I talked to one of the continuity of government guys, and obviously they selected him because he's not a person like me whose loyalty is to the American public.
He's a little narcissist.
He wants to fit in and go along.
But he did talk to me.
Okay, but he did talk to you.
You broke up.
So, and then what?
One of the guards to keep the mouth of the deep underground military bases secure.
When there's an extinction level event, he's got to keep the sheeple out.
And he's ready to shoot the sheeple.
So they can't go into the underground, you know, base to survive whatever catastrophe is taking place on top of the surface of the earth.
Right.
So yeah, I've talked to them, people in the secret military, and actually we bumped into it one time.
We were in a National Guard M113A3 unit, which I love, the Super Gavin.
I've got the hat.
You probably saw it earlier.
It's the greatest...
Stop.
Okay.
It's the greatest what?
Light-tracked tank ever made.
All right.
Extremely reliable.
Go anywhere.
Just needs to be upgraded with extra armor, like I talked to you about the V-hole shaping and all that.
Right.
And active protection systems of SWAT anti-tank guided missiles.
Anyway, you go on to all that.
Light-tracked Like what?
Their penis size.
They don't want to be seen in a tracked vehicle.
Right, right, right.
Okay, we got that.
So you came across...
I'm going to tell you what we came across.
Because the vehicle is so damn good, we can just take it anywhere.
In other words, you just open your map and say, I want to go here.
Take a 113 and go anywhere.
We stumbled onto, at Fort Irwin National Training Center, one of those weird, secret military bases.
At 3 o'clock in the morning, it was bright as daylight.
There was some kind of orb that was glowing, and now I know what it was.
At the time...
At the time, what?
Three o'clock in the morning, everyone doesn't give a damn.
We just keep on driving through.
In other words, we stumbled into an area we weren't supposed to.
So it was bright as day, three o'clock in the morning.
Right.
Like an artificial sun was floating over this.
And I know now that it was probably one of those maglev train, high-speed train tunnel things.
You know, one of those entrances.
Weird stuff.
Okay.
So I verified all this stuff is true.
It's not just a figment of your imagination.
We have a high, ultra-high technology military that is being reserved for the Illuminati.
The elites have reserved it for their purposes.
You know, obviously, if we really were, as a nation, threatened, we could pull out the anti-gravity craft.
And use them.
But there is some problems weaponizing them.
When you create an anti-gravity field around the disc-shaped object, it's hard to weaponize that.
Well, let me address that.
Wait, wait, wait.
But it's hard to weaponize it if you're trying to do it with conventional weapons.
Right.
And I just want to set the stage so the people listening can understand why what we will see in the 50s was so clunky.
It's not...
It's not what?
It's not extraterrestrial, cuddly Steven Spielberg bear visiting us.
It's human beings in clunky, anti-gravity craft in the 1950s, emitting noise and smells and breaking down constantly.
Those are the ones that had a hard time, you know, weaponizing, because they have a hard time flying first.
And then the next thing they worked on was weaponizing it.
Obviously, we have particle beams, Tesla death rays now, so it is probably a good...
It is a good what?
A good bet, a good speculation, count on it, that they probably have Tesla death rays to fire and not have to try to shut down a portion of the field to shoot a missile or stick a gun barrel out.
But if you look at the early UFO sightings like the Maury Island incident and the Kenneth Arnold incident, the C-46 was shot down with 20mm cannon fire.
The early Nazi anti-gravity craft had a barrel sticking out.
And that's what shot down the C-46 with some 23 Marines or whatever.
And that's what Kenneth Arnold was looking for in the Mount Rainier, Washington area.
You know, and then at the Maury Island incident, you had the slag coming out of the craft.
The Maury Island...
Maury Island, okay, the slag was coming out of the craft, and what are you saying about it?
The Boeing plant is what this Maury Island incident is about.
They were spying on the Boeing plant as they were building swept-wing B-47 jet bombers, which posed a threat to the anti-gravity craft's parents, which are, you know, base 211 in Antarctica or somewhere in Argentina, the forthright Nazis.
Right.
So that's the real story.
Now, to cover that story up is E.T., All these men in black and all this E.T. stuff is reverse psychology.
That's exactly what the U.S. government wants you to think.
They want you to think E.T. is doing all these flying saucers and not humans.
So if you want to look at what I call a taboo stealth indicator.
Stealth aircraft are not working now because a low-frequency radar can detect them.
What that means is there's aircraft that's flying to the air, it's leaving a wake, where the radar of high frequency is not, you know, bouncing back.
Do you understand?
It's leaving a wake.
And the low frequency radar can see that.
So I call it a taboo stealth indicator.
If you want to see something that's true that the establishment doesn't want you to understand, look for a TSI. And you'll never see on your science fiction shows...
Humans flying, flying saucers.
It's taboo.
That's right.
You know, another thing that you'll never see, actually, is you won't see, you won't even see like a TR-3B or high-tech machinery of any kind.
They simply don't show it.
Anytime they show you a sci-fi movie, I've observed this for years, and I don't even know why people don't talk about it.
Even in Avatar, you have high-tech everything, and then they're flying around the skies on this other planet in these clunky machines.
Yep.
They never look streamlined.
They never look high-tech.
It's all mind control because they don't want you to know that the secret space program exists and that they have technology hundreds of years in advance of what we think they have.
But I don't agree with your ET hypothesis because I know it's both.
It's not either or.
It's both.
Well, I have an acid test for that.
Okay, you're breaking up.
Every knee shall bow and tongue shall confess Jesus Christ is Lord and see how they handle that.
They won't like it.
And they won't like it because they're demons.
They're not ETs.
They don't care.
They don't care.
It's nonsense.
They don't care.
You can say that all night and all day.
Certain kinds of ETs, reptilians, could care less what you say.
It's nice that you believe that.
I don't want to get into a war of words here, but I can just say that there's so much evidence to the contrary.
It's ridiculous.
But at any rate...
So, Mike, getting back to the secret space program, getting back to the fact that we have two militaries, is there anything else that you are doing or people that you know are doing?
For example, if you know insiders who know about both programs, do they try to bridge the gap?
Oh, no.
Hell no.
The people that are in the high tech, you know, secret space program and secret military, they're superior beings.
Like I laid the basic, you know, existentialist, narcissist foundation of U.S. military.
They're the highest speed of the high.
So why would they talk to us lower life form military people to kind of give us any help?
Okay, but every once in a while, every once in a while, there is sort of a snafu that happens.
For example, if I recall, when they shut down the airspace around LAX in Catalina Island, because they had an operation going on, and I actually, that's not the, there's a lot of incidents that we hear about Where one military is actually doing the opposite that the other military is doing.
Right, but the point is that the planet Earth that we live on, the battle against the Earth, is finite.
So you're going to rub elbows with each other.
And as the low-tech military gets better and better, we're like it or not, you know, it just does.
Like I said in my prepared notes, you've got encroachment from private space Okay, now let's talk about that.
Okay, let's talk about that because that's also got a built-in sort of self-destruct button.
Right, but I'm just saying that what's going to happen is you've got to anticipate what the enemy is going to do.
If they've got easy access to space with anti-gravity, you damn well know they've already placed Apollo debris on the moon to fool people.
I mean, that's the way the game is played.
And the American people just don't seem to understand that these people we're fighting are not stupid.
But anyway, that's an anticipation.
You should expect it.
Okay?
So as the encroachment comes from, you know, Elon Musk putting probes on Mars that he wants to do and colonize, you've got another one called Moon X that wants to put some probes on the moon.
But let's talk about that.
Was Elon Musk threatened so that he doesn't talk about anti-gravity?
Well, I'm sure he has been threatened off.
So what he's trying to do is defy him as much as he can by squeezing out the inefficiency of action-reaction rocket boosters, which is you throw away the boosters and you go broke.
Right.
He's got...
You're breaking up.
Single-stage to orbit reusable rockets.
Yes.
It's only the fuel, and he said it was like $60,000 of fuel.
That makes space access easier.
And then you start doing some shenanigans.
Like, okay, let's put a space probe on Tranquility-based Eagle has landed.
Let's see what's actually out there.
But I'm afraid.
You're breaking up.
It's like chess.
There are already two or three moves ahead of us.
If they have easy access to space with anti-gravity, they've already went to where Neil Armstrong and these guys supposedly went, and they planted a lunar module there and some other flags and other BS. Right.
You've got to expect fraud vitiates everything.
But the American people, they're just locked in this Mayberry RFD. Oh, I had Occam's razor that's always drawn to my face.
Look, dude, Occam's razor...
Say it again.
You're breaking up.
Occam's razor doesn't do crime.
Occam's razor doesn't do conspiracies.
Occam's razor doesn't put nations in wars that are false.
Right.
Occam's razor is bullshit.
It's not the answer to everything.
It's only for the people who are lazy to live by Occam's razor.
Okay.
Evil men get off on this complex conspiracy.
That's why Ian Fleming wrote the James Bond novels.
Wake people up and say, do it.
These guys are smart.
They're bored with life.
They want to do something spectacular and flamboyant, you know, as Sidney.
You ever heard of that term?
It's boredom of life.
Fleming talks about it in his novels, describing the villains wanting to do something big because they're just bored.
Oh, absolutely.
So that's where we are now, and I want to get ahead of the threat and say, okay, if we have these anti-gravity threats, we're going to plant false...
They're going to plant false evidence.
Alright, yeah, continue.
Now we've got the extinction level event.
If the fear cards don't fear the sheeple, God bless the sheeple, but one thing the sheeple will do right is they get jaded about it all.
Oh, you know, raghead schmagnet, you know, asteroid schmasteroid.
You might get to the point where they're going to have to stay.
Yes, exactly.
Go ahead.
They're keeping that You're breaking up?
It has to be convincing to put on a 9-11 ET attack.
Okay, so you're talking, wait, okay, wait, Mike, you're talking about Project Bluebeam again?
Is this what you're...
Right, that is correct.
All right.
Also, report from Iron Mountain.
Yep.
It's in, you know, Bauer's book, 818 pages.
People, please read some of the book.
Yeah.
So I don't have to, you know, summarize everything for them.
Okay, I'm just saying that these people are thinking ahead.
Yes, exactly.
And they know how to manipulate the sheeple.
And they know that you've got a fear among them.
And after a while, Raghead isn't going to do it.
You know, the Jews are not going to do it.
Right.
The House of Sod is what we're on now.
Yeah.
You know, the Bushes have a familial relationship with House of Sod.
Right.
Get a grip on reality.
Right.
You know, the limited hangouts, they're running out of them.
The Jew one ran for about five years.
They're getting tired of that.
The Zionists.
So, anyway, they're going after...
That one's worn off, so now they're going after the House Assad.
It's all limited hangout.
You know, people to throw under the bus.
Everybody and everybody but them.
David Rockefeller, the Kissingers, the Illuminati.
They don't want, you know, you to...
And they need to ban the CIA, which is what we need to do, and the FBI, and get some actual reform for our country.
So we don't have these people running around saying they're above the law because of that.
Okay, you broke up.
Okay, the 1947 National Security Act.
Which these people use as an excuse to go around doing their crimes, saying, oh, it's a national security, sources and methods, we can't even follow this crap.
If we don't repeal that, we're finished.
The United States of America is going to be destroyed.
The National Security Act is mistaken.
Truman did it.
So I get tired of people saying, oh, Obama's the worst president.
He's not.
Truman's the worst president.
This country goes under.
It's going under from the National Security Act, 1947.
Created a separate service Marine Corps, a separate service U.S. Air Force, so we can't even fight a war correctly.
And created the CIA, which goes around sabotaging and murdering people.
And it empowered the FBI, of course.
Then they go around persecuting people.
So the FBI... You're breaking up.
The U.S. Constitution does not have a CIA or FBI in them.
The U.S. Constitution and the founding fathers were not just simpletons.
They knew sophisticated actions.
In 1773, we had the Boston Tea Party.
You know, we say, oh, they never had false flags to deal with.
They did a false flag called the Boston Tea Party.
So one of the mistakes the Founding Fathers made is they don't have safeguards within the U.S. Constitution against reality fraud.
There should be some external agency that is not part of the U.S. government that can investigate if the U.S. government tries to pull up the Boston Tea Party.
Founding Fathers didn't care to put that in the U.S. Constitution.
Also, the U.S. Constitution doesn't have any baseline morality other than just play fair if you're going to go around being an economic greedster.
Joseph Hepburn in Farewell America, Chapter 2, describes America thinking that money and materialism is God's blessing upon you.
We should, in my opinion, adopt the last five of the Ten Commandments.
These are the non-religious Ten Commandments, like the thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not bear false witness.
You know, the last five.
United States of America doesn't have morality in its constitution.
Just a little bit.
You know, don't tread on me, so to speak.
Don't kill me.
I've got a right to defend myself with a firearm.
You know, don't throw me in prison without due cause.
You understand what I'm saying?
The U.S. Constitution is an economic greed fest.
It's not as moral as it needs.
It's not moral.
It's just not moral.
So a lot of these guys think that they're entitled.
You know, they have a criminal racket that they create, and they feel that they're entitled to.
Okay, let's get back to what they're planning.
So if you have been talking to people that are reporting because they happen to be security guards or lower level people within the secret space program, I get it.
Right, yeah.
Okay, you're breaking up.
Higher level contact, I would be dead in a ditch already.
You know, people know who I am and I'm not going to go along with their evil crap.
Right.
The people don't come talk to me.
So the problem is that these people are elitist snobs.
They are recruited by the secret Illuminati government to participate in these things.
So the mind control thing is the act.
Okay, start again.
The mind control thing is what?
They've been hard hypnotized.
The people that join these secret space programs are hard hypnotized to not talk.
Let's say they live in Reno, Nevada, and then take that McCarran flight to Area 51.
They don't have to worry about, let's say, a pirate.
Okay, they don't have to worry about you broke up.
Okay.
The mind control.
See, that's what the whole subject of this secret space program talk with you today is if you integrate what we've learned about mind control from Bauer and apply it to the secret space program, you'll see why they don't worry about people like me and you uncovering facts and evidence because no amount of facts you'll see why they don't worry about people like me and you uncovering facts and evidence because no amount of
And you don't have to worry about somebody actually directly involved in the anti-gravity craft flying them as crew members or whatever, you know, like John, what was his name, Lazar and these idiots.
Because if they really were involved, they'd be mind-controlled to self-destruct themselves if they did start breaking their mental blocks.
Well, actually, no.
I mean, it's a little more involved than that.
I can say that they are, what they have is they put them in situations where they have a low credibility factor, like Bob Lazar with, you know, the porn stuff he got involved in and various things, and also a certain instability.
They can't, you know, they can't factor out everything.
They're not perfect.
You know, and I mean, I'm here to say.
They're in the comfort zone that they're in using the mind control technology.
You know, another field of endeavor has, you know, covers up.
I hate to use the word cover up.
Camouflages the secret space program.
Right.
So where they're in a comfort level where all they have to do is just go to MUFON conferences and just mock, you know, your Scully and Mulders.
Right.
Well, there's no doubt about the fact that MUFON is highly infiltrated.
That's for sure.
I just wear a badge.
Sorry?
Wear a badge saying, I want to join the CIA. Say, talk to me after the conference.
I'll be at the Denny's down the street here.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, but...
All right, all right.
But, you know, I think this is huge.
I think the revelation from Bauer, that hypnosis is the key, and it's probably being broadband jammed.
You know, we call broadband jamming when you jam the signal on the enemy.
I think broadband jamming is being done to the American population.
No doubt about it.
Okay, are you aware of the cloning?
Well, I mean, the whole cloning thing is a topic that I would go with, and, you know, I would give you a brain dump of what I know.
And my brain dump would be, they know they have to get off, not off planet, they have to get off turf.
You know, whatever the nation state you're doing, the cloning, you've got to get away from prying eyes of anybody.
Because it's demented crap.
So one of the places they do this is Antarctica.
Right.
Why are there 21 countries?
What's everybody doing down in Antarctica?
I mean, how many penguins, and I like penguins, but how many pictures of penguins can you take?
Okay.
So Antarctica is one place.
It's suspected to be.
Well, there is an island off the coast of Russia, apparently.
Yeah, Novorovsky, whatever.
I mean, you just look at the map.
There's a lot of those islands.
And that's where they just evade, you know, civilization to do this demented stuff.
And it's like I said earlier, it's the mad scientists saying, hey, they can think of it.
Let's do it.
Right.
But I also like quantum physics basically saying, FU, that when we do the reductionism thing and we have the electron microscope, when the atoms, you know, the particles of the atoms see that we're looking at them, they move.
They go, I see that you see me.
That's right.
F you.
That's the observer effect.
Yes.
Okay.
American Revolution and the French Revolution.
They think everything can be reduced by reduction.
To its smallest part, we can get control of it.
But that's not true.
There's still a supernatural world that exists.
It can't operate 24-7 because 24-7 has got to be your natural laws that God has set in place.
You know, the earth will fly into the sun, right?
But life is a crime scene.
So you've got to always factor that there is supernatural beings that are...
You know, effing us up.
So that can happen.
Okay, well, call them what you will.
So to get back to, you know, because we should wrap this up and I want to thank all the listeners that have stuck with us this long because this was really hell on wheels trying to give Mike a chance to talk about this.
And what we may do at a later date is also, Mike, just do an offline interview so that we can see if we can get a better audio from you.
But Everything I told you, I've got it typed up.
And I normally go by that script.
I'm just sending it to you.
And it's a lot more polite and not as emphatic as I did just recently with you.
Okay.
You taught me and I just decided to not go with the notes.
All right.
Let me ask you this, though, because, you know, you didn't quite finish the topic of Bluebeam.
I am curious what you think of Project Bluebeam and whether you do think they really are going to roll it out and whether you have any contacts that are telling you that.
Not right now.
I had in the 90s contacts saying they were going to do Blue Beam because they needed something.
During the 90s, the budget was down in the military.
You couldn't even get airborne school.
You paid your own way.
So I think that it's going to come down to who becomes president of the United States this election cycle if he's going to continue with the Watt boogeyman.
Or he's going to move on.
If he moves on, then you've got to, well, wait a minute.
Can we engage the E.T. fear card?
Right.
They also have another factor is that these guys are getting old.
I mean, I think David Rockefeller is 100 years old.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, that's where the cloning also comes in.
I mean, he's not going to be around much longer.
Or Bush.
Or, yeah.
He brings the house down on himself.
Well, yeah, it is open to question for sure.
I mean, for those listening that don't know what Project Bluebeam is, Project Bluebeam is a fake alien invasion.
But we've already been invaded.
This is my point of view.
And therefore, also the fact that they're going to try to escalate this using holograms, etc.
This is the type of thing that Bluebeam talks about.
But the fact is that it's already happened.
All they can do is, when you have a fake ET invasion alongside the real ET invasion, you've got a problem in sort of orchestrating your stagecraft because you've got two different organizations and they're not playing by the rules.
One plays by one set of rules.
The American public is more introverted and subjective than ever before.
Everyone's got their head in their cell phones.
We saw on 9-11 a lot of magician tricks.
We're done.
We call sleight of hand.
We're looking at one building burning and then wham!
Explosions go off in another building and they mix it in the studio CGI effect.
We don't have people that are connected to objective, external, physical reality like we once did during the World War II generation.
The World War II generation were outdoors people and they had better powers of observation than the people today.
People today...
Well, I mean, I appreciate that as, you know, possibly talking about certain groups of the population, but I have to say, on the contrary, we also have a lot of people who have become excellent observers who never were observers in, say, our parents' generation or whatever, because People are, you know, that's why they're breaking through the secrecy at this point.
That's why we're having a show such as this, which never could have existed back in the day.
They need steady state surveillance, though.
The earth is still a very big place.
And what will happen is if you're not looking...
The enemy gets the first lick.
See, what I'm talking about is getting ahead of the threat for a change.
Instead of us reacting to what's going to happen, we need to have people with cameras looking out on key symbols of society so that we can't have the whirlpool to rise.
See, they knew that the first whatever happened, no one's going to see.
So that's why they had their, not the Wiseau Brothers, but that French Firefighting, documentarians, I set up the tripod to look at the North Tower, because otherwise there would be no footage.
Your first lick is a surprise lick.
Well, you should be watching some of the YouTube videos being done by some excellent camera people like, for example, John Leonard Walson, whose lens capturing stuff on the moon right now is amazing.
Great stuff.
Great UFOs.
That's what I'm saying.
He's taking the same principle.
We've got to protect reality.
We've got to have eyes on the reality.
Yeah, you need people in the field, which is also what Camelot does.
If we're able to travel the world the way we used to be able to do, but we can't afford to anymore.
It's a problem.
But if I go on location, I can meet more people, talk to more people on the ground.
You do make that human connection, which is very good.
We need to think ahead and spoil their operation.
That means we know they're going to terrorize us.
So you're going to think of possible scenarios.
One would be the scenario from Independence Day, where you have something ominous just hovering over major cities because you're trying to get Max bang for the buck.
Mexico City.
I want to see these weird things.
So what I'm saying is that we need to have cameras already in place to be honest cameras so we can blow the whistle when they try to pull their hologram crap or their actual anti-gravity crap crap.
And that also means confrontation.
It means we're going to have to try to shoot some of these anti-gravity crap down.
Sorry, that's just the way it is.
If you uninvitedly show up over my territory, Yeah, it's a military threat.
So, we need to be fighting back.
Well, I mean, they...
It's kind of like a test tube thing.
Well, let me just creep up to it, and let me just do some measurements, and then maybe I get a repeatability, and then I can do reductionism.
No, this is a crime scene.
These are people who don't like us.
I mean, people who don't like us.
They don't like us.
They're effing with us, and they're intruding.
They're trespassing.
Do you acknowledge that there is a split, probably several of them, within the Secret Space Program?
They are fighting a war.
They are fighting these guys.
They just don't want us to know it.
Yeah, but that's like the white hat thing that David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford are saying.
I say, acknowledge there's a possibility there's decent people, because like you said, the 25-40-35 split still is in effect.
But, you know, don't bank on it.
You know, hope for the best, but you've got to prepare for the worst.
Well, absolutely.
I appreciate that.
But there's no doubt about it, at least as far as I'm concerned, because I've seen evidence of it.
And I have been contacted behind the scenes by individuals who are definitely part of this sort of good guy element.
But they're also trying to turn it around.
They're trying to turn around the treaties that were made on our behalf with various ET races that Do not have our best interests in mind.
Call them demons if you wish.
What I say is that if you're a military man, you use every tool that's available to you.
So if the King James Bible works, don't knock it.
Break that guy out.
Find the nastiest verse that demons aren't going to like.
And read it to him, even if you're not a Christian.
See what happens.
I mean, that's what you do in the military if your efficiency is, you know, what you're after and you're trying to win, kick ass.
Use every weapon in your arsenal.
Absolutely.
But secular men don't do that.
You know, Joe Jordan at CE4 will help me, you know, back up what I'm saying.
Okay, who is Joe Jordan?
You know, CE4, Joe Jordan?
No, who's that?
He has a group where he takes people that have been abducted by ETs, and then they take the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and say, get the hell out of here, and they do.
So he's got a whole database of people who've told these guys to take a hike.
Okay, cool.
The next Joe Jordan, CE4. Hey, Joe.
Bye for dinner next week.
You gave him a 15-minute fame plug there.
All right.
All right, but I'm just joking.
I don't even know him that long.
All right, well, yeah, I mean, this actually gets into the stuff that Richard Allen Miller does, by the way.
He's trying to equip, you know, he used to train special forces.
To learn ESP and various techniques so that they can be in control, better in control, in sort of the arena of war, I guess you might call it.
Yeah, that's in Ballard's book.
Ballard's book, I didn't go into it because I was just working on the mind control, manipulation of masses and the people in the Secret Space Program.
But he's got a whole section in there where he talks about remote viewing.
You see, and using ESP. The movie Push is really good.
If you ever see that movie Push, that shows you what is happening.
Basically, the people in nation states that have these ESP groups, there's a war going on there.
Oh yeah, but that's also been going on just for the purpose of that and understanding history.
I mean, witches, you know, warlocks, all of that.
They've been fighting this kind of a war.
Ian Fleming using 007 was the nickname for John Dee.
Right.
John Dee was the science advisor to Queen Elizabeth.
You know, there's two gatekeepers at Wikipedia.
One of those guys' name is Scrotumcat.
I don't know what kind of name is that.
But Scrotumcat will not allow any post on Ian Fleming's bio that talks about John Dee and the 007 and Queen Elizabeth signing of M, which is slam dunk.
Everybody on the whole planet knows.
But if it's true, he will not post it on Wikipedia.
So that's my 15 minutes of infamy for that guy.
Well, I can tell you they lie about Camelot on Wikipedia.
They lie about a lot of things on Wikipedia.
Yeah.
So, you know...
I think it's beneath any man to pick on a woman.
Right.
You're not a man if you pick on a woman.
I hate that.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Well, is there anything else, Mike, while we've got you on the line here that you wanted to cover?
I'll try to pull some questions up.
So, you know, if you want to do some wrap-up comments, and then if I can get questions without destroying this interview, then we'll do it.
The trouble is I'm using more than one computer here, and it's a little dicey, but bear with me.
I'll try it.
Well, what I did is I summarized.
You know, I try to think these things through.
And I post these fragments when I get them on the MI7 Facebook page.
So please, people, go to MI7, like the damn page, so we can get over 1,000 likes, so then we're respectable.
Right now we're at 500, 400 or something.
But anyway.
That's what I need.
I need people to like the MI7 things.
And then I've got what I'm going to tell you right now already posted in a coherent fashion.
And these are like the summary bullets of what I gathered from Bulwark, which is hypnosis is the key.
Drugs are the way to get hypnosis to work.
They've got this hard version where they can do all kinds of dirty tricks, which means why are we waterboarding anybody?
If we can make anybody talk with hypnosis, they call it electro-psychiatric, electro-psychological means.
There's ramifications for this because it's BS. You just do it because you want to push ragheads around.
Well, I mean, no, let's talk about that, because, again, this is going low-tech, is because they want to keep the military on, like, a sort of almost a cannibalistic level of humanity.
I mean, that's what they want.
So they feed into this bullshit.
And this is also, it's Satanism, it's, you know, they feed off of it that way.
They're feeding the masters, so to speak.
Right.
It's really twisted.
We know, once we know that there's a better way of doing something, even if it's an evil thing, which is, you know, in this case, MK, you know.
Right.
But then you can say, well, wait, why are we, you know, torturing these people with the waterboarding and their various, you know, old school torture things when we can use, just put a drug...
You broke up?
Actionable intelligence from that anyway.
It's just sadomasochism.
These people in the military just get off and just pushing people around.
Right, and then not only that, but you see it constantly in movies.
They act like that's the only way they can get information out of people, which is a lie.
You know, the hot red-chip-headed chick.
Yes.
I'd do anything for her.
You know, why do you have to torture me?
But I'm just saying, half the movie is trying to justify torture.
That's P.S. There's no reason for it.
Right.
And so what I say is, we could keep at least some level of our decency intact.
If we've got electro-psychiatric, you know, MKUltra stuff...
Let's use it.
You know, if you really want to go after ragheads, don't torture the guy.
Just put him under a spell.
Hypnotize him.
Find out where he's hiding his explosives and his AKs and blow it up.
Yeah, but that's not, you know, I mean, look, they're not the ones doing the job anyway.
They're actually working for us.
I mean, the ones that are actually blowing stuff up are working for the military.
Well, right.
I didn't want to get convoluted on that, but I'm just trying to say that we can get that off the playing board.
We should be torturing people because we're the United States of America.
We should stand for something more than just a bunch of assholes going around getting off on torturing people.
If we need actionable intelligence, we have a more sophisticated, humane way of getting it, and that's why we get it.
And then we have a moral base for at least...
people that don't like us being in their country.
Something, some kind of level of decency.
That's a point that you get when you read Bowers' book.
You also get a point that they have Tesla death rays.
Apparently, this guy named Einhorn was a cause celebrity He would go around to Steelburg and these other Hollywood guys talking about Tesla this, Tesla this.
And the elites, he calls them the cryptocracy, didn't want the sheeple to know about Tesla.
So they set up Einhorn.
To be like a murderer.
They killed his girlfriend, put her in a footlocker in his attic.
Then they found it and they said he did it.
He was on the run.
Now he's in a prison in Pennsylvania.
But they did it because he was the guy going around popularizing Tesla.
So you've got Elon Musk.
I know, you're supposed to pronounce it Elon Musk.
You know, spell it mask then.
M-U-S-K. He creates a whole car company called Tesla.
That's a brilliant move on his part.
Because that gets Tesla's name out there.
Right.
They don't want people to know about Tesla.
Okay, but Mike, so at this point, if you're talking about what's going on in terms of the mind control, you've got the secret space program, you've got all of these elements, are you going to be able in the future to talk to anybody that Who is in contact with anyone who is giving you information about their next moves?
I could, but I will have to obviously protect my source and myself Yeah, fair enough.
But, you know, I mean, I've already sticked my neck out by talking in public right now with you, and I've been doing it for years.
And so I know they know how to reach me and all that kind of stuff.
But you don't need to actually have the smoking gun, you know, Woodward and Bernstein deep throat guy come to you and say, we're going to do it next week.
When you can anticipate what their moves are by putting yourself in their shoes, using empathy.
So what I try to do is say, okay, I'm in the shoes of David Rockefeller.
I'm going to die soon, and I'm kind of worried about that.
If I were him, I'd go to a Bible-believing church right away, some Sunday school teacher, and I'd say, hey, give me your package deal here.
Howard David Rockefeller or Eddie Kissinger.
Shout out to them.
Go to Sunday schools, your nearest one, as soon as possible.
These guys are not...
You've got to say, well, they've got to up the fear factor.
They've already played the raghead terrorist card.
They could play the rogue nation state one next.
You know, these all come from Carol Rosen.
You know her.
Ron Show personally.
You know, Don Braun told her the fear cards.
Yes, I know that.
But the trouble is that some of it is a bit dated.
The reality is that we're much farther along than that at this moment.
And it's too late.
It's too late to take weapons out of space because the weapons have been up there.
Right.
And they've been up there for a long, long time.
And so there's no point in hiding your head in the sand and suddenly thinking that you're going to get them taken out of space.
They're there.
We are conducting wars with various ET races.
This is a reality.
The evidence is everywhere.
So it's like you have to be, I guess, a realist.
And so I appreciate the sentiment.
But unfortunately, that's just what it is.
And I don't believe also that Von Braun was quite the individual that she thinks he was.
So that's a whole other ballgame.
And I also know someone who has led me to believe.
You can see my time travel speech at the time travel conference I did, where I talk about a young man who approached me from...
The Pacific Northwest, who basically was told that the Nazis had learned reverse aging and basically have learned how to go over to the parallel earth, get people who you're double, so to speak, in the parallel, and bring them over here.
And that's what the movie, the TV show Fringe was, because they love to hide out in the open and tell you the truth of what they're really doing.
And apparently this is real, and not only that, but the Nazis have reverse-aged people like Wernher von Braun and others.
So this guy was supposed to be writing a book about it, and he was very compelling.
And it's extremely interesting information and seems to be backed up by a lot of the information we have about the Nazis and what they were doing, etc.
So that's one thing that's going on.
Now, there is something else, and that has to do with the linear accelerators.
People are really hung up on CERN, but actually the linear accelerators, such as the one at Brookhaven Labs, Are perfectly capable of doing the same thing they do at CERN. And people don't realize this.
Have you heard anything about this, Mike?
Only just the basic research.
What the potentialities are.
You know, it's just not something I'm interested in.
It's something Joseph Farrell gets an erection over.
That I just keep abreast of what the edges of reality Hello?
What we're doing, we're going to reach an edge and turn an edge and then get, you know, a nasty capability of maybe jumping in time forward or back.
You know what I mean?
These are the edges of...
You know, the parameters that God gave us, you know, when you start approaching them to the edge, you can then get to jump and do some things.
And at that point, you've got to wonder when God's going to intervene, so you guys are getting too dangerous, you know, human beings.
But the main problem is numbers.
You know, the United States of America is 310 million people right now.
We're the third most populated country.
We are getting crowded.
I mean, you know where you live.
It's very crowded.
Well, actually, I think that that's mind control.
You know, that scarcity, that scarcity model is total mind control.
Well, it is.
Of course, Thomas Malthus.
I'm just saying that that's the way the enemy thinks.
So the enemy's thinking.
Yes, they believe it.
They're not thinking that you and I could be, let's say, a young Tesla.
We could be brilliant.
The more people that are alive, the more chances you're going to have a Tesla, right?
They're not looking at it like that.
They're saying, you know, useless feeders, you know, eaters.
Right.
And so their attitude is we're not killing enough people fast enough.
Right now, two million people are born each year in the United States and only one million are dying.
I don't want to sound callous.
I don't want any of those million people dying.
But I have an alternative plan.
If I talk to Dave Rockefeller, I'd say, Dave, look, it ain't working.
Okay, you're being cut out again.
Why don't we get off this rock and colonize Moon?
But they've already done that.
They've done that.
Why would you ask them to do that?
With the sheeple, not the elite, not those people they selected.
To depopulate the Earth.
The answer is not more wars, is to get off this rock.
No, because you have to keep in mind that they have to have power over and they want control.
They're evil.
They're called evil.
I'm just saying that maybe you've got to offer an alternative plan.
They don't need...
I mean, come on.
If you want to give them credit for intelligence in one area, you can't assume they're stupid in another.
Look, they've already looked at their options.
They've chosen.
They've chosen a path that involves, well, what I call, you know, Robotic Superman versus Angelic Human.
So it is a choice and along with that choice comes a lot of decisions that just follow under that heading.
And creating a humanity 4.0 doesn't allow for leaving a lot of dead wood, a lot of old useless eaters hanging around, people that aren't in their view of use.
And, you know, that's how they view it.
They don't view it, it's not really about overpopulation so much as it is, they are trying to, only the strong survive.
They want to refine the vehicle that we call human into another form.
And that's what's really happening.
So if you are not in the top whatever percent that they view and has to do with bloodlines and all kinds of things, then you're expendable.
And therefore, that's how they treat you.
And that gets back to the beginning of the show when we're talking about how they treat our military, even the Marines.
A Marine is supposed to be a pretty high-level guy.
And yet we see they're being used as cannon fodder and not treated very well.
Right, and that is used as, like I said, a leverage saying this is a strength, this herd instinct, this cannon fodderism is a virtue.
Well, it ain't working anymore.
War has gotten too technological.
We can't be doing stupid stuff anymore.
But the point of what you're saying is that they themselves have not had the time that I've had Rubbing elbows with everybody of all types of people.
Because I know people are pretty smart.
Once you stop the games and say, look, here's a problem.
See what you can come up with.
You'll be amazed at what U.S. military man or woman can do.
It's just that they came into the military wanting codependence.
They give it to them.
The establishment bureaucracy gives it to them.
But I've also broken out of that mold and said, hey, let's think out of the box.
And they can do it.
It's just that they didn't sign up for it.
But we can show them there's a better way of doing things than they can be.
Very creative.
So the Illuminati Ayn Rand types...
If they had been more egalitarian and less snobby and had more experience rubbing elbows, see, that's the thing with David Rockefeller, who was in military intelligence in World War II. I'm a little disappointed as a captain that he didn't pick up some kind of love for the common people because they're pretty damn clever, especially in World War II. But anyway, the point is that, you know, I'd rather have 100 people and get, you know, five Teslas out of them than You know what I mean?
Kill the hunter.
Well, yeah, and this is an interesting point.
It has to do with genetic engineering and also what they're doing with the chemtrails.
In other words, things where they're trying to actually create children with all kinds of learning disabilities, etc., etc., in order to get precogs and so on.
So...
Yeah, it's very interesting.
But the trouble is that you can't control this amazing genome that is the human genome and get the sort of miracles and the Teslas, if you want to call it that, or any other of the highly gifted humans that are on the planet with even gifts that have not been discovered.
Because there are plenty of people that have...
Sort of charted gifts that we don't even know about.
It could be you or me.
It could be many people that have amazing abilities that are simply being overlooked because they're not allowed to thrive.
Yeah, but we have a society right now that's based on consumerism.
You know, greedy, selfish consumerism.
Of course, we're not going to identify anybody with talent.
You know, my cohorts in military reform always say, Mike, you know, talent is trodden underfoot in the U.S. military.
And I go, you think?
They don't want talented people running the show because the system we have is based on mediocrity.
So mediocre thugs and assholes.
Go around terrorizing people, you know, mop the floor, mow the lawn, that kind of thing.
But if we had a country that was expanding into space or, you know, reorganizing the way we live our life, you know, without the profit motive as the goal of whether you're successful, but actually you're, you know, the measurement of your success, what kind of decent human being you are, how creative we are.
If we became a nation of innovators, that's what Yankee Doodle is supposed to be, right?
Right.
Well, if it was more about innovation and less about who you know.
Right.
And if we had more joy in the innovation, which is what I get out of it, I like inventing stuff.
I just think stuff is cool.
So if we had more people that are just getting the joy of what they're doing, which is what Northern Europeans are supposed to be, supposed to survive the harsh winter and the hot summer.
But if we had a nation that did that, then we would identify more of your talented people like you're talking about.
Because we have a country and a culture that wants that, and we would have to obviously see, I go into particulars.
We need a high-speed train system.
So let's say somebody was an empath or something.
You need to hop on that 300-mile train, have lunch with Vesper Lind, and then you go out there and you test her.
You know what I mean?
You've got to have some integrate, you know, interface with everybody in the country.
We're stagnant right now, you know.
We're not going to hop on an airplane and go see somebody on a whim.
Well, for one thing, the airplane you're going to hop on is such ancient technology.
It's really pathetic.
Oh, it's unsafe.
You know, if you go to some of my webpages, retired at the tube and wing, there's a guy named Bernelli in the 30s figured out, why do we waste the tube that doesn't create any lift?
Why don't we make the fuselage a lifting body and with wings?
The whole thing is much sturdier.
It's crash resistant, safer.
And then the aerospace industry that's tube and wing shut them down.
A guy named Bernelli.
You can look it up, aircrash.org.
Anyway, they don't want to do for now.
You know, I don't care.
Call it something else.
Well, it's like Otis Carr and Ralph Ring.
Just do it.
Otis Carr and Ralph Ring, they were told by General Motors, you put them up when they built the UFO, you put them up and we'll shoot them down.
They were told by the head of GM. So that's where it stands today.
Now, I have a book on this called Racket Theory.
It's online for free.
CombatReform.org.
Racket Theory.
V6.0.htm.
I figured this all out a few years ago.
The problem of human nature is racket theory, which is that people would rather milk a problem, keep cancer in play, because it keeps people busy with the less than efficient keeping the problem in play stuff.
We need to become a society that says, look, let's get over this cancer.
Let's get over this inefficient, unsafe gasoline power.
Well, this feeds the greed system.
As everyone knows, Big Pharma is basically a parasite on humanity.
And unfortunately, people still go to it.
People still buy their stuff.
So it's a long road.
We throw in an MK and everybody's in a low level grade of hypnosis.
Right.
Of course they keep going.
And then you keep the advertisements coming and these people watch them.
You know, I never watch an advertisement.
I just turn the sound off and look the other way.
That's the only way I can watch anything.
And I don't watch regular TV. I only watch stuff on the internet.
So there is ways to control yourself so you don't actually have to watch ads because they do have subliminal Nonsense in them.
There's no doubt about that.
Definite mind control there.
You see that cute movie by the CIA and Disney, the one where the girl has anger and, you know, what is it, joy in her head?
It was Inside Your Head.
Ever seen that one?
It doesn't sound familiar.
What was it about?
It's a cartoon.
Those Pixar cartoons are real cute.
Oh.
I see.
We'll avoid that one.
Okay, you're breaking up again.
It's called Inside Your Head, I think it's called.
It's a movie about a teenage girl and she moves from Minnesota and she doesn't fit in well.
You know, it's mind-bending kind of thing.
Are you recommending the movie?
Are you saying it's nonsense?
You can watch it without buying into it.
Watch it one time.
Very touching movie.
Okay.
I cried when I watched it.
I mean, you're rooting for this chubby, depressed girl.
See, these people are living in her head.
There's a depressed girl.
There's an anger guy.
There's a joy girl.
You see, these people are like running her control panel of her head.
I mean, totally evil crap.
Right.
They're not human spirits.
Say it again.
called Inside Your Perhead.
Okay.
It's a cute little movie, but anyway, I'm just saying you root for the underdog.
Then when you think about it, it's not too good of a movie.
It's saying man is just a component, so different emotions.
We're a lot more than just the sum of our emotional parts.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Listen, Mike, I'm going to call it a night with you right now.
And I want to thank you so much for sticking, uh, to this whole thing with me and, and staying with us.
It's been great to have you on the show, and, you know, sorry, and thank you, audience, for sticking with us and being there and being interested in what Mike had to say.
He's obviously got a lot of stuff.
He's got a lot of links on my website, projectcamelotportal.com, So if you want to go to all his different sites, he has written more than one book.
Isn't that right, Mike?
Yep, more than one book.
Okay.
And support his work.
He's obviously a good guy, and he's working hard on behalf of humanity.
So thanks, Mike.
And any parting words?
Go ahead.
Yeah, please go to the MI7 Facebook page.
You don't have to buy my book.
Some of the books are free, like Hive Theory is a free e-book.
And in it, I explain that there's three things we can do.
We've got to be refusenics.
I mean, don't go along with evil whenever you can.
Then you've got to still be a dreamer.
That's what we did a little bit tonight.
We dreamed of the way things could be.
You can't stop dreaming.
Don't let them take that away from you.
And then you've got to be a realist reformer.
So refuse, Nick.
Be a dreamer.
And still, you know, be a realistic, I can change this, I can maybe change that.
And if you do all those things, you'll be happy.
You know, you're fighting the good fight.
And that gets you totally frustrating.
Okay.
Excellent.
So everyone, just letting you know that I'm back tomorrow at 1 o'clock in the afternoon with Dr.
Waterman.
He's going to be talking about FEMA earthquakes.
And yes, there's lots of evidence of sort of heavy-duty earthquakes happening right now.
And go to my page on Dr.
Waterman on projectcanlottportal.com to see some videos about the escalation on earthquakes, whatever.
He's also going to be talking about the financial meltdown.
So, you know, what they seem to be doing right now, 2016, towards the end of 2016, going into 2017, we were told like 10 years ago by Henry Deacon, Arthur Neumann, That this was going to happen.
So they're working a playbook.
They have a whole agenda and they're still following it.
So keep paying attention and tune in tomorrow at 1 o'clock if you want to hear what Dr.
John Waterman has to say.
He is a naturopath.
A very good doctor, as well as a person who was trained to be an agent of one of the alphabet agencies, but decided he didn't want to spend his life doing that.
And he's also been head of the militias, one of the militias.
So he's quite a tuned-in guy.
So that's tomorrow at 1 o'clock.
All right, Mike, thank you so much for being on the show.
All right.
See you again.
All right.
You take care.
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