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April 15, 2016 - Project Camelot
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LINDA MOULTON HOWE ORIGINAL UNEDITED
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Hi everyone, this is Carrie Cassidy and I'm going to try to go live here again We have been having the most ridiculous problems.
In some ways, well, very bizarre, strange, and this is not even the usual problems.
We have all kinds of usual problems, but This is even stranger than usual.
So I have Linda Moulton Howe on the phone here.
Well, actually on Skype.
Okay, great.
And so it sounds like you can hear me.
Linda, can you say a few words?
Yes, this is Linda Moulton Howe, reporter and editor at EarthFiles.com.
And I'm in Albuquerque, New Mexico, looking forward...
Working for over an hour to try to solve the communication.
On Phenomenon Radio, we were attacked within 10 minutes by the strangest digital attack.
Even the person who runs that station says he's never heard anything like it before.
And then starting this morning, no email, no phones for me.
And it has taken all day trying to work through technical problems, so I may be the one who is being attacked and the spin-off is now to Carrie and Camelot, but whatever is happening,
I am willing to keep going forward with this amazing story that really is the sense, is starting history over again with new information about the fact That Roswell was not the beginning of a UFO crash and body retrieval by the United States government.
That, in fact, the evidence...
...the first UFO crash...
...1941.
And Terry, if it's okay for me, and I'm getting feedback from.
I think they can hear me, but we won't...
Now...
...work for McDonnell Douglas until his retirement in the very beginning of the decade of the 90s.
He is...
Very smart, very credible man who, when he worked for McDonnell Douglas, was even asked in his team to try to come up with an understanding of the propulsion system of unidentified flying objects or the new quote-unquote Hillary Clinton says the nomenclature should be unidentified aerial phenomena,
UAPs, and that When Bob Wood, inside of McDonnell Douglas in the 80s and back to the 70s, was dealt with the challenge, how would you understand the propulsion system of one of these UFOs based on eyewitnesses and inside military lingo?
he worked on it to the point that they became frustrated and stopped of a man who owned Thank you.
...but was then Proving Grounds back in the 40s and 50s.
It later became the White Sands Missile Range.
So now we're going back to the 1941 time period.
And in these documents that Bob Wood negotiated with Timothy Cooper in the mid-90s, one of them is called the Majestic 12 White Hot Establishment of 1947, and this was written after the three retrievals in Roswell.
Why I am starting here is because it's all tied together in this white-hot Majestic 12 Intelligence Assessment dated September 1947.
And it begins...
What came down here?
What came down here?
What did you do?
These are deemed extraterrestrial in nature This...
Comparisons of artifacts...
1941...
Outside the scope of United...
Development.
Now, let's go in to the Cape Girardeau 1941.
Recently, in March of 2016, a brand new book came out called MO41, that's Missouri 41, The Bombshell Before Roswell by Paul Blake Smith.
He and I did a three-hour recorded phone interview about what he has researched in this new book that just came out.
And he has done archive research, White House research, FDR, Truman research, everything going back to 1941.
So now what I'm going to unfold is some of the information from his new book.
The time is 8 p.m.
April 12, 1941.
A Baptist minister A Reverend William Huffman, H-U-F-F-M-A-N, receives a phone call at his home from the...
...a testimony from his granddaughter...
...has the police come to the house and the police take him to a location that, on a map, Cape Girardeau is about 117 miles southeast of St.
Louis and about 8 miles south of Cape...
C-H-A-F-F-E-E There Were military police,
fire, and a man with a large camera at the time in 1941 that had a big flash and it was flashing on a crescent-shaped craft that was silver on the ground and pieces.
Three bodies that later that night when the Reverend got home, he told his family, what I saw We're three identical bodies as if you would...
And here's what happened.
So very close.
The man who was in charge of that entire operation was General Charles Burton Root.
He was a flight instructor and a squadron commander and was so respected and he eventually became A appointed man by people in Washington, but he was in charge, this is very important, because the gathering on the night of April 12, 1941 appears to have been done at the bodies and the craft by this Sykeson Institute for Aeronautics.
All right, so we know that the military came in and got this material, but what about that It was not only with a large camera, but with a small camera that the man put in a shirt pocket.
So the reverend saw the photographs being taken, both with the large camera and the small camera.
Two weeks later, the man recognizable who had been taking the photographs showed up one evening when they heard a knock on the door, opened it, And here is the man that the Reverend recognized was the photographer.
And the photographer without any explanation to the Reverend Huffman says, I think that you are owed a photograph from two weeks ago and hands him a photograph that later the granddaughter would sketch because she saw it.
And I'm going to come to what happened to this photo.
The photograph in the sketches that are at my news website earthfiles.com and have been there for about a decade show two men in shirts.
One is in short shirt sleeves and the other is longer shirt sleeves and they have on either side they have their human hands under the armpits of a gray being about four feet tall from the bottom of its feet to the top of its head.
The Head is large, shaped, not round, and not precisely oval, but an odd shape that comes a little narrower down.
The eyes are quite large.
The Reverend said they were three times larger than human eyes, but not the way ours come horizontally.
These were slanted.
The nose was drawn in the sketch as just two little slits, a slit for a mouth, no ears, thin neck, thin body, apparently four fingers, and the feet were not clear.
And as I understand it, the photograph never showed exactly clear the bottom of the being's feet.
But nevertheless, here is a sketch that Charlotte Mann The granddaughter of Reverend William Huffman, had started drawing for people in the 1990s, and all of us had seen the drawing and heard her.
And the problem was, she was not born on April 12th, 1941.
She would be born years later when the Reverend's son, Guy Huffman, moved to Kansas.
The story needs to be told here about what happened before we get to Washington, D.C. The Reverend stayed in Cape Girardeau.
His son moves with the family and the new baby Charlotte to a town in Kansas.
One day, when Charlotte was a young girl and had seen the photograph that was described by her family as an extraterrestrial from outside of this planet being held up by two humans at the grandfather's when he was asked to go there,
the son had a man named Fisk working for AIG. The same insurance company, quote-unquote, that was involved in the collapse in 2008, the financial collapse in the United States.
And what we know about AIG in the 1940s is it was being used for intelligence people to be embedded because AIG could go out to towns on alleged Legitimate insurance inquiries and talk to people anywhere in the United States on all kinds of subjects and that appears to be what happened between Reverend Huffman's son and this AIG
man named Fisk, F-I-S-K-E. Fisk crosses Guy Huffman's path and somehow they end up talking about what happened in Cape Girardeau And Guy tells Fisk, who our suspicion is,
Paul Blake Smith's, mine and others, Fisk was sent as a mission to track down the photo and that the people in Cape Girardeau knew that the reverend had given the photo to the son.
The subject and the Fisk man says, Oh, I'm an expert in photos.
Please give it to me for a day or two.
I want to analyze it and I promise to bring it back.
Well, this man Fisk not only never brought it back to Guy Huffman, He disappeared from the town within two days of the discussion in taking the photo.
This reinforces the idea that Fisk was on the trail to get this photo and to take it out of any possibility of being shared with reporters and people about this Cape Girardeau story.
Now, with that as background, that there really was a photo, that there were other people who have testified having seen it, And why we don't have it.
Let's go back to April of 1941.
...everything.
Here is...
There was no Pentagon in April 1941.
There was no CIA, NSA, DIA. There was no Area 51.
Most of what we recognize, for example, people think of Wright-Patterson.
The only thing in Ohio that existed in April of 1941 was called Wright Field.
It had not become Wright-Patterson until much later.
Therefore, part of the story that Paul Blake Smith is beginning The Archive say about Chief of Staff George Marshall,
his Secretary of State Cordell Senator in charge of S. Truman.
Those are the men on the night of April 12th Currently we're getting together to discuss what to do.
You must now keep in mind.
The President of the United States was a 33rd degree mason.
His secretary, his chief army chief, His secretary of state Cordell Hall was a 33rd degree Mason.
Those men at the top of the United States government in 1941 were also bound together by secrets.
The Masonic tradition secrets.
Those men were used to relating to each other as promising secrets.
What Paul Blake Smith suggests in this new book, based on his research of archives, that the only safe place That
is what we know today as Capitol Hill.
The nation's Capitol constructed on a hill in Washington, D.C. and was not completed until 1800.
Now, where would they put three bodies, craft, and debris in the nation's Capitol?
Well, it turns out I've done my own research after interviewing Paul Blake Smith.
The Department of the Interior in 1911, on the record in paper, is talking about how the Department of the Interior is now going to move material in 1911 out of these sub-basements to give more room for other things to be stored.
What Paul Blake Smith has come up with is that they Sub basements with only the 33rd degree Mason part of the government,
the president, his secretary of state, the chief of his army, and Harry Truman.
Being brought into the discussion and they would be the only ones knowing that that's what happened.
Now, is there any other information and evidence that supports this?
Paul Blake Smith has a fascinating section in the book about the testimony on the record of the three daughters to another reverend.
It is a name that people get confused with Huffman.
It is Holt.
H-O-L-T Reverend Holt was the cousin of the family of the family of the family of the family of the family of the family of the family of the family of the family
I think it's a very good thing.
And they go down into the river and told his daughters.
They didn't have all of the security machinery as they do today.
And the Cordell Hall shows his cousin, the Reverend, three large jars with liquid in the jars.
And inside of each jar is a body, gray, small, thin, and each of the jars in the bodies look identical.
And Cordell Hall tells his cousin, he tells his daughters, these are creatures not of this world.
And the daughters testified to this, all three, in the early...
The whole story of the crash in Cape Jordan and the retrieval of three identical bodies today we would call clones becomes even more significant when you read the white-hot majestic paper that would be written six years later because of the Roswell crashes.
The document talks about and is backed up by Nathan Twining's own Report, two weeks after the Roswell 1947 to Truman, at Truman's specific request.
Now, what I'm going to talk about are two tracks here that are really important to understand historically.
7 White-Hot Report, backed up by Nathan Twining's own report.
It references a Neutronic propulsion system.
And it says that the Neutronic propulsion system was handed over to Robert Oppenheimer for the development of the Manhattan Project.
Right there in those words means Oppenheimer began the Manhattan Project at the beginning of the 40s, not 47.
47 is two years after we were out of the war.
47 is two years after we tested the atomic bomb at White Sands and we dropped in August of 45 on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
So that means When they reference Robert Oppenheimer, the physicist who created the Manhattan Project specifically to develop the atomic bomb, and that he had a neutron propulsion system for the Manhattan Project, there can only be one place of any of us that we know.
It must be Cape Girardeau in Missouri.
So that establishes another need to the White Hot Project that comes in The first week of July, 1947.
Nathan Swiney gets a direct request from the President, Perry S. Trudeau.
Here's the other track.
Let's go back in the timeline to understand something else.
very important.
Thank you.
Thank you.
...the president of the United States.
...to have a vice president, Warren...
...turn on a dime.
Going into that fall election, 1944, and plucked Harry S. Truman.
Not only plucked, we know from archives, he begged.
Substitute to be his vice president instead of what?
Thank you.
...that Paul Blake Smith has looking at all of the things that were happening with FDR at the time.
A very popular president who hit World War II, who got us, got the United States involved in that war after Pearl Harbor, who rode at a very difficult time,
and if all of what I'm telling you is true, FDR reached out to his 33rd degree a sonic colleagues to help him keep One of those colleagues completely separate from the political considerations of the United States was because of their Masonic bond.
By 1944, that fall, what none of us knew was that Vannevar Bush and Oppenheimer,
FDR, Truman, George Marshall, they were all involved in discussions about the development of the atomic bomb which was this country's greatest secret.
We're now in the throes of World War II and Robert Oppenheimer apparently was Getting his clues about what to do with the atomic bomb from a piece of machinery that came from Cape Girardeau.
Now they're into the fall election.
FDR begs Truman to be his vice president.
FDR becomes president, but in 1945, on April 12th, 4 years exactly to the day of the report of Cape Girardeau, the crash, and the Three Beans.
April 12, 1941.
Now we're at April 12, 1945.
FDR is sick.
FDR leaves the White House and goes to South Carolina to recuperate.
The The fabric of the people who are trying to keep the United States government running include people who are the only ones that are sharing the ET craft secret.
They know in the discussions with Vannevar Bush and Oppenheimer that they have to do a test.
And that means by the time we get to April 12, 1941, that FDR and these men are already probably have decided that a day in July,
the middle of July 1945, the entire world for the first time will know that we have been able to split the atom And no one precisely knows what is going to happen, including Oppenheimer and Vannevar Bush.
FDR, according to Paul Blake Smith, in dozens of ways had lived his life around the number four.
Everything he wrote about, did, his life, the four terms as president, four in everything that was important to FDR came in Forbes.
Now we're at the very fourth anniversary, April 12, 1941, and not long before that day, this is another archive that Paul Blake Smith has found and contributed, FDR's secretary went on the record in later archival messages and letters and said,
not too long, Before April 12, 1941, FDR had asked her, the secretary, to bring him, without anyone knowing, a loaded gun.
The request was for a loaded gun.
This so shocked her.
She did it because he was president and she was secretary and worked with him.
On the day of April 12, 1941, He had closed off everybody and had gone into an office.
And the next thing were the reports that went around the world that FDR had died of a, quote, cerebral hemorrhage, close quote, on April 12, 1941.
The inside suggestion is, in many ways, that he took the gun and he killed himself.
By blowing a bullet into his brain, which would certainly be a cerebral hemorrhage.
This is reinforced by when his wife, they've been estranged for a long time.
Eleanor Roosevelt lived her life, FBI lived his life, he had had women who were his close friends, quote-unquote.
On this day, when Eleanor Roosevelt gets the message, That FDR has died in South Carolina.
She leaves New York immediately.
And the testimony of people who were there in archives is that when she arrived at the house, where his body was still in the same chair, they did not move her.
Some way, by phone, there was a request that Eleanor Roosevelt made that his body was not supposed to be moved or touched until she got it.
One of the secretaries said that Eleanor went into the room.
A doctor had been there and had put a bandage all the way around FDR's head several times.
That Eleanor Roosevelt removed the bandage, was seen looking at the head.
And from that moment forward, she closed the door.
No one was to come.
There was a closed casket.
His body went in a closed casket from South Carolina back to the funeral where they had it in New York, I believe.
And that no one in that room in South Carolina ever saw FDR again.
The question that Paul Blake Smith raises in the book As if Franklin Delano Roosevelt, not long before April 12, 1941, asked a secretary to give him a loaded gun, and not a single one of his 33rd degree Mason colleagues were at the funeral, and he was President of the United States.
In the Masonic tradition, any Mason who kills himself, 33rd degree or the masons in general will not attend the funeral.
This is a violation of a principle.
Eleanor kept it as a closed casket and the idea that has been raised is what comfort in the tight little circles having to do with UFOs and ETs That might have been weighing on FDR's mind as he was also wrestling with.
Are they going to explode that atomic bomb tank?
When they do, what is going to happen?
And he knew that what Robert Oppenheimer was using related to the crash on April 12, 1941, the atomic propulsion device.
Could it be That FDR did not want to be a lie.
When the test was done of exploding the atoms and his own first-hand knowledge that what they were dealing with was technology that was not from Earth and that whatever those clone beings were in those jars that the hypothesis is that he saw That he wanted to die.
He did not want to keep going.
This would not be the first strange death in our government related to E.T.'s forestall in 49.
Went out of the Bethesda hospital window after being, it was said that he lost his mind into deterioration and then his own family has suggested to me, I've met somebody in the forestall family, that James Forrestal, the first Secretary of Defense, had a lot of knowledge about the ETs and that something was happening that was an interaction between him and a non-human presence.
And he began to fall apart.
And was he pushed?
Did he kill himself?
But that was another strange death.
FDR to be his vice president in this fourth unprecedented term and when they called to get the vice president to let him know that FDR was dead in South Carolina
the archives say that they had to look and where was Harry S Truman on the equal talk of 1941, when the call came that the President had died?
He was in one of the sub-basements of the Capitol on Capitol Hill, and he had to hurry from the sub-basement back to the White House to become involved with all of the preliminary arrangements for the FDR funeral.
It doesn't prove That he was there looking at these beans in the jar.
But Paul Blake Smith raises the question in his book.
Of all the places, on April 12, 1941, the fourth anniversary of the retrieval, that Harry S. Truman, vice president, would have to be found there in order to get back to the White House because the president was dead.
It's a strange, strange weaving around that date.
And then, what President Harry S. Truman did from that point forward as President of the United States, gathering together his most trusted military, business, and science people into what we now know today as a group referred to as Majestic 12,
MJ-12, with a classification of N-A-J, not G, MAJIC and that this would be the trusted advisors to Harry S. Truman who would have had knowledge from Kate Gerardo up to FDR's death and everything else that began to occur.
The idea that Harry S. Truman was hit cold with those three Strange platform crashes in Roswell in July of 1947.
It doesn't hold water when you start getting into Cape Girardeau and carry, from my point of view, the secret space program, the atomic development, the hiding of all of the major non-human secrets in the archives of the Atomic Energy Commission.
And the Navy, it was the Navy and the Atomic Energy Commission were bound together in the early 1940s.
And no one has ever been able to file FOIA against anything in the Atomic Energy Commission and get an answer.
Those files are the biggest secret.
Reinforcing yet again that Cape Girardeau Before we got into World War II, our government, without having any...
FDR, George...
...the head of the...
...that was overseeing national defense...
...decisions.
As 33rd degree Masons all, we are keeping this a secret from Americans and from our enemies until we understand and develop this technology that Robert Oppenheimer did the first back engineering of understanding that Neutronic propulsion device and today When we hear what Lieutenant Colonel Corso wrote in the day after Roswell about
how he personally was told by General Arthur Trudeau in the late, or in the 1960s that Eisenhower, it was at the end of the Eisenhower administration, that Eisenhower wanted the army headed by General Trudeau, R&D, and Corso.
...the technology they had and start hand-carrying it to corporations, to only an individual per corporation, to get them back engineered in order to keep the technology out of the hands of the CIA.
Eisenhower didn't trust the CIA, and they wanted this technology.
And that they, by patenting and getting... - Linda, Linda, sorry to bother you.
Linda, we have a background sound.
Somebody's answering a phone in the background.
Is there any way you could just...
It was just a voicemail.
It was just my voicemail.
I see.
Okay, fine.
Go ahead.
Because it was drowning you out, so if you can repeat the last couple sentences.
That Philip J. Corso, his testimony about his first-hand knowledge that General Arthur Trudeau, first hand-picked by General Eisenhower, who became president, knew Trudeau from World War II as a trusted military mind who was a PhD in electrical engineering.
And Eisenhower trusted him, put him in charge of research and development for the army, the first one.
And Trudeau knew Corso from the war.
And Trudeau reaches out to Philip de Corso and has him come to the Pentagon.
I talked to Corso about this in great detail.
And he said, here...
...over and opened them up piece by piece and said, this is extraterrestrial technology.
And I'm going to give it to you piece by piece, and I want you to hand carry, and Trudeau said he had made the contacts, Corso would carry the ET technology to various corporations with the idea that once they had extraterrestrial technology being back-engineered,
just like Cape Girardeau, the Neutronic propulsion device, was back-engineered, so to speak, by Robert Oppenheimer, They would do the same thing in American corporations so that the American corporations would develop the ET technology, keep it out of the hands of Germany, Russia, and our perceived human enemies, and...
...presence on this earth dealing with an alien presence.
Catch up, but as they began developing and trying they concluded that we were dealing with alien technology that was eons and another document says millions of years beyond us.
So that is the importance of Cape Girardeau and everything that followed and Roswell Okay.
Those three crashes were not the beginning.
Excellent.
Now, I want to go back over some of your testimony, ask questions.
I am being heard and that there's no problem.
Thank you.
But there was problems with my sound.
Are you able to hear me, Linda?
It's very broken up, but I can understand enough.
So if everybody else is hearing you fine, I'm happy to keep going.
Okay, so if anyone listening in the chat will just let me know if my sound can be understood.
I will proceed to ask Linda some questions about what she went over, and thank you very much.
Linda, while we're on the screen here, I've opened your Earth files and I actually have gone to your reports and I put, for example, a picture of the actual, well, right now we've got part three,
we've got a picture here from the, I guess, the Paul Blake Smith book, The Bombshell Before Roswell, a picture of FDR and They are saying that they can hear me loud and clear, so I guess the issue is really...
It's between you and me.
Yes.
So I will proceed here.
Now, it's very, very interesting information.
It's a little confusing because there's so much.
So I want to back up a little bit and get to the Cape Girardeau crash retrieval, I guess you might call it.
Would you agree?
Yes, absolutely.
Okay, so in Cape Girardeau, this is where supposedly these three alien bodies were recovered and then put into jars.
Is that correct?
We know that we have testimony from the Reverend himself about the night going The Reverend talking about the bodies, the crash, later getting the photo, that's like one piece.
The Cordell Hull cousin telling the daughters that he at the Capitol was taken by Cordell Hull to see the jars with the bodies is another piece.
We're trying to take pieces and it is not I cannot say that there is, and Paul Blake Smith doesn't say, that there's hard proof that the Jar story relates to April 12, 1941.
But, at that period of time, the Army came in and gathered this up.
Everybody knows that.
There are facts and then there are speculation.
Sure.
And the very fact that Sykeston and that strong military man, those are the ones that appear to be the ones in charge, that people who knew Sykeston came in.
So we know that military came in and took the bodies and took the debris and took the crash.
Where, in 1941, keep that in mind, no Pentagon, no area...
...the entire upper part of the government were 30...
of America and then Blake Smith in his work to start doing archive research, finding certain
archives and dates that suggest certain people work together on certain days and that's why I can say that there were
this Clarkson, do I have the name right, is Coyle Hall was Secretary of State.
His cousin was the Reverend.
The Reverend was the father to the daughters, and the three daughters went on the record with that from their father in the night.
Okay, and did this new author, Paul Blakeson...
He lives in Cape Girardeau, was born and raised there, became very interested in just recent years He's a young man because of all of the stories about the reverend, the photo, all the stuff that I and others have been reporting since Charlotte Mann talked about seeing the photo.
It began being sort of trickling out and Paul Blake Smith has done the most research historically and that's why this book is so important.
Okay, and as far as The daughters, are they still alive and did he interview them?
He has not interviewed them.
They went on a statement for citizens against UFO secrecy.
Was it KAWS? It was KAWS or...
It was one of the East Coast.
Okay.
They went on the record for one of the UFO groups and wrote the story and then there was another All right, Now they estimate that this crash happened in
According to your report here, you say that he died on the same day, April 12th, only on you say that he died on the same day, April 12th, That's right.
Okay.
So he dies and chooses a very interesting date, right?
And prior to or around the Cape Girardeau sort of incident, Were there any other cross retrievals that you're aware of, in the public record at least, about any crash retrievals that happened between 1941 and 1945 at all aside from this particular one?
Paul Blake Smith at Eureka Springs last weekend came and we had a three hour lunch and he now thinks that there is somebody coming forward who's never spoken before Saying that on a farm, this was all farm country back then.
Just think of nothing but horses, cattle, and farms.
And that another family who had a farm about 12 miles from the Chafee location that we just talked about, that there may have been It was either a landing or a crash.
Now, we don't have anything at all yet outside of one testimony.
But the thing that's interesting to me, if this turns out to have substance, throughout the last 60, 70, 80 years of history around the world, very rarely have there ever been a singular crash.
Whatever is going on with the UAP UFO, they seem to always travel in groups like threes or something else, and that where there's one crash, there usually is another one or two.
Therefore, if it turns out that there is going to be evidence of something else strange in Cape Girardeau, it would just reinforce that cycle.
He didn't find it.
Somebody came to Paul Blake Smith.
He's now going through the process of trying to back it up.
So when you ask that, I'm just telling you honestly, there may be something else that we're going to be able to get some substance to and report.
If not, then Kate Gerardo of April 12, 1941, is the only known information about a crash and three identical beings anywhere in the literature in 1941.
Okay, now the Battle of LA that I note that you referenced in your report, do you know the year that happened?
Yes!
On the timeline.
We've been on April 12, 1941, December 7, 1941.
I have this, I keep it on my computer.
So April to December, Pearl Harbor.
And then from Harvard to declare war, the attack of Japanese.
By February 24th, going past England, the Battle of L.A. This is a fascinating piece because it's within months of Cape Verde and the Los Angeles above the fold headline It was a big photograph.
I, in fact, talked to the man who provided that photo.
And, uh, in December 7th, uh, what would that be?
December or January?
That would be two, approximately two and a half months before.
The Japanese had attacked Pearl Harbor.
We get into World War II. So, during that period of time, we had all kinds of military security at this gathering.
Into the Pacific.
That's why we had all this heavy army artillery.
There was worry by the government that the Japanese might try to attack Los Angeles, San Francisco, cities along the coast.
So on the night of February 24th to 25th, when a diamond-shaped, it was clearly a diamond-shaped object, glowing, Appeared over the Santa Monica Mountains.
Up goes our army artillery.
Nothing happened to us.
The artillery did nothing.
And I can barely hear myself.
Oh, you're kidding!
Oh, it's just, it is coming down on my office.
Oh my God, that's what that sound is.
Okay, yeah.
It's like nature itself.
I'll just keep going.
So, the artillery has gone up against this guy.
Now, the documents that Bob Wood got...
Yes.
I have hundreds of reports that Earth Files reference to the music media.
It's a problem.
It is George Marshall, Army Chief of Staff, reporting to FDR that they've got two planforms, celestial, the word celestial is used, vehicles, One over the Santa Monica Mountains and one over San Bernardino that none of us knew anything about until these documents surfaced.
And it is FDR and George Marshall then discussing the retrieval of outer space benefits the night of the so-called Battle of Los Angeles.
Okay, and I... This is reinforcing that FDR and that group Okay, so that's 1942.
Three years later, FDR, it actually sounds very believable that he may have committed suicide, as you say.
It is also something that we do hear from time to time in the early days that individuals could not handle What they recognized was the new reality they were having to deal with.
That they couldn't face it.
And I wonder whether or not something transpired between 1941 and 1945 to put FDR in such a mental state To where he was told something about what I would suggest,
and I wonder what you think about this idea, that we were under an invasion, and that nothing was as he thought it was, and that even his presidency, because a person in his position, you would not expect him to commit suicide unless there was something that he couldn't stomach.
The other option is, of course, whether he was actually being mind-controlled to do so.
Same exact questions about Forrestal.
Same exact questions.
There is, so far, and Paul Blake Smith continues to work now, he's trying to do a second volume.
This is a big question on his mind.
He has found the Secretary's statement that FDR asked for what he's done.
He has found a confluence of these powerful people on certain dates.
And the issue is how would we prove, how would we ever prove, What it was that 33rd degree Masons were talking with each other absolutely privately and not doing it in typewriters.
They got together physically and talked in a private room.
That's how secret everything was then.
And the issue of what did they think the agenda What agendas were?
It's the same question we're asking today.
And there's no question that we have mixed signals.
Yes.
That some are friendly and some are not friendly.
And where does the rubber hit the road in terms of the truth?
About the friendlies and the unfriendlies.
I would say we're still struggling with exactly the same questions of agenda that FDR, George Marshall, and Vannevar Bush, Cordell Hall, and Trini were talking about in the spring of 1941.
No doubt about it.
So this is where we're talking about something that is history that has not been fully revealed, and yet there are some very suspicious signs that are very, very pertinent to what we're dealing with today,
even during a so-called another election here in the United States that's that's coming soon and with Hillary Clinton and John Podesta John Podesta for 14 months has been signaling talk with Hillary Clinton about UFOs and no matter how many times he keeps bringing it up in tweets or whatever there's no so-called CNN, MSNBC, Fox.
They're not asking Hillary Clinton about UFOs.
And it's like John Podesta is begging the so-called mainstream media to open this subject up with her.
And I find it absolutely amazing.
I'm paying attention.
Grant Cameron's paying attention.
There's a group of us And we would love to sit down and do an interview with John Podesta and Hillary Clinton about aliens, which he's begging somebody to do.
Well, why isn't it happening?
It's because they counter intel from the War, of World War II. They are extremely skilled.
They were some of the very brightest people on the entire planet when they encountered intelligence to get us through World War II. Same in England, same in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the United States.
The Allies of World War II. And those are the people who began to have the authority.
They were told, you keep your hands on this.
And we do not want, under any circumstances, for the public or the media to find out anything that's true.
And for 60-some years, those brilliant counter-intel minds have been driving the entire world of media and public away from the huge story of an alien presence, past, present, and future.
And that right now, in this crazy election year, John Podesta worked for Clinton, the husband, is now working for Hillary.
He comes out of the Obama...
...the UFO truth.
That's what Podesta wrote.
And now he's saying, talk with Hillary about aliens.
And nobody except that New Hampshire reporter asked her about UFOs.
And that's the interview in addition to Kimmel, where she said that, yes, she would like to get to the bottom of the truth about UFOs.
But her caveat always is, unless there's national.
Which is having your cake and eating it too.
Well, it's also, if you were having to say that there was national security around an ET subject, then that's tantamount to saying that they are dangerous and we can't talk about it.
But they exist.
Lynn Buchanan, I would like to leave this on this positive note, as positive as I can be today.
Lynn Buchanan did a Phenomena Radio with John Burroughs and me about five or six months ago, and he was one of the talented remote viewers Working for the Defense Intelligence Agency in their DTS, that's what it was called, unit.
And with him was Mel Riley and by the Defense Intelligence Agency At Fort Neen.
And so these guys, our government didn't want to make them look like they were getting a lot of money because remote viewing is so controversial.
But the guys who were there know that they were getting very, very good answers and our government was very appreciative.
And in that context, in 1986, one of the taskings of Lynn Buchanan was, now for people who might not understand, when I say The tasking.
Lynn does not know words, numbers, latitude.
He doesn't.
He's the remote viewer.
But when I say the tasking, that is put together by people who work behind the scenes of the remote viewers.
And in a file cabinet, in an office, some way far away, there is a card that has this.
Rendlesham Forest Those three words.
And the reason we know is because, quietly under the radar, approximately around August, John Burroughs, from Rendlesham Forest, the big story, John got a telephone call from somebody who said, you need to look at this website.
So in an email you can intelligence agency website not DIA and in the URL that we are guided to was the tasking in the day in 1986 Lynn Buchanan
Reddish and Forrest incident, all of the formal paperwork of the entire remote viewing transcript is there.
We're shocked.
I called up Lynn, who I've known for a long time, through Jim Marks.
I said, Lynn, did you know that your tasking of a remote viewing assignment at the DTS in Fort Meade is on the CIA website?
He said, what?
He was shocked.
He said, those were all supposed to be classified forever.
He said, I don't know who would be putting this out.
Right!
So we did a two-hour phenomenon radio with Lynn Buchanan going word by word, sentence by sentence, through his remote viewing of the Rendlesham Forest.
It was absolutely fascinating.
Now, this is the man that I'm going to move the track over away from that because it's such a long thing.
Two, after we had done this work with Lynn on the I called and did a completely separate interview for Earth Files and Coast to Coast and Dreamland and all of these other things that I do work for.
And in that discussion, when I wanted to know what other ET-related tasking he personally...
...context of the DIA back in the 80s.
And he said he got a tasking one day...
Now, I just want people to understand...
Nobody's coming to these men and saying, this is what we want you to do.
I'm saying the words that we know were behind remote viewing.
They are just sat down.
It's the people who are monitoring, the monitors.
They're the only ones who know in the file cabinet.
That's right.
Please keep this clear.
So, he said he is given a tasking.
And that tasking, which then he learns later, To a remote view, non-humans in this galaxy that fall into four categories.
Friendlies that are psychic, friendlies that are not psychic, unfriendlies that are psychic, unfriendlies that are not psychic.
And Lin said that he was overwhelmed during that remote viewing session.
With this, I'm going to say the viewing, the sense that the universe is teeming with life.
That the intelligences that are at work in this universe would shock us.
I believe that's the word he used.
And yet, from our point of view, we're in an eerie, silent universe.
We keep sending out all these signals.
Nobody is sending back, we think.
But they are.
And that the alien presence is here and it's very complicated.
And Lynn said this.
When I was remote viewing in those four categories, it became, from my point of view, very clear that there are more friendlies, both psychic and non-psychic, helping us than there are unfriendlies in either of those categories.
And this was what he said about the unfriendly.
The greatest danger are the unfriendlies that are psychic because they can control our minds.
He said, from everything that I learned during my work for the DIA, yes, there is danger.
There is danger.
He's not taking it away.
But he said, Linda, we had allies then.
They are...and Pat Price and Mel Reilly and all those unbelievably talented remote viewers cannot answer.
Why are the friendlies friendly to us?
And why are the unfriendlies that are really dangerous?
Why do they want to annihilate us?
It's at that level.
Lynn, these are Lynn's words.
He was remote viewing and he said, there are intelligences out there.
They want us erased.
They want us gone.
They do not want homo sapiens sapiens in a timeline.
That the amount, that the intensity of the desire to eradicate humanity is irrational.
Therefore, that that has been remote viewed must have a link to the evolutionary history of this world.
And that is, we have to do this with us and with Earth what?
I think it's a very important thing to know about the future of this world.
History.
Enlil wanted humanity.
Enki says, no.
How did Enki prevail?
Why did Enlil want us eradicating intelligent forces?
We have a lot of allies, but there is something out there that wants us erased.
Why?
That, to me, is what we should All.
Just standing up straight forward and just asking.
We just want answers.
I'm not running to the exits.
I've been dealing with this for a long time.
Animal mutilations.
You can't get more so-called weird and scary than that.
But I don't feel fear.
I just want to know the truth.
I want to know who we are.
I want to know who the friendlies and unfriendlies are, and I think if 7.2 billion human minds or hybrids or how many of us are left as humans and hybrids, if we were given every single piece of fact,
from the worst to the best,...so-called gods of history.
...a time where we need to stop being...
...be grown up.
We need to be as a nation, as a...
John Podesta and the DIA so-called secret world knows to be able to stay here is it's four o'clock that's Thank you.
Thank you.
I will be looking forward to feedback.
This is also, I just want to say one.
Thank you.
We have the secrecy because the bottom line is they're not all friendly and the military was to deal with it all those years ago and I think you've you've really outlined and and the author Paul is what his his whole name?
Smith?
Paul Blake Smith.
Yeah.
He's on and on a good track because we need to uncover Why the secrecy?
Why for so long?
And what comes back is the fact that it appears that we have enemies out there and that they are trying to deal with them.
And this gets into why we have chemtrails and we can't see our skies half the time.
The Battle of LA, what's going on above our heads every day, every night, and we're not being told about.
And it gets into the sightings, etc.
So it's a huge Can of worms, as they say, but Linda, wonderful expose on the story, and I'd love to have you longer, but I know you have to go.
I just want to say you are invited back, and we will try to do this again in the future, and thank you for your wonderful work and your service to humanity.
Thank you.
Secret war.
Absolutely.
Secret wars, and we need to know the truth.
God bless.
All right.
Take care, and thank you, everyone, for listening.
Bye bye.
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