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March 24, 2016 - Project Camelot

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TONY TOPPING : UFO ENCOUNTERS

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, about 15 years in waiting for you to interview me to get to this level of being a bit of a whistleblower.
	You describe your website as being the whistleblowers of Project Camelot, and I class myself as a covert witness here in the UK to some very strange goings-on.
	Goings-on that are highly complex, that have been a lifetime in making...
	And it's just freaking wild, Kerry.
	And it's been the past, from the year 2014 to the current time of where we are now, is when things have really ramped the volume with the UFOs that began coming in over my house in 1999.
	And I had the childhood visuals and everything that went with that, all the strange goings on.
	And I'm stalked by the high strange.
	It follows me everywhere.
	And I'm a man who's trying to look for explanations as to why.
	I don't profess Kerry to be psychic, but I have had extraordinary problems.
	Paranormal and psychic experiences.
	That's really it in a nutshell.
	I feel that I'm among friends with you and I feel that we could probably go very deep, in fact much deeper than some of the other internet radios do.
	We'd probably go very deep with it in terms of ETs, Nordics, time continuum, all that kind of thing.
	Having no scientific background, no covert secrecy background, I'm a man who became embroiled in a very deep A complex situation that is still currently ongoing at the moment.
	What you're saying is, thank you, I appreciate the sort of willingness to go deep as you call it and I do want to say that Camelot is very accustomed to going deep as they say.
	Yes, you are.
	It's a great opportunity to go, at least in terms of what's happening to you and to find out What kind of contact you're having, how it's sort of morphed over the years, I guess, and you call yourself a covert witness.
	I want to find out what you mean by that.
	And so we can kind of launch in that direction.
	What I'd like to start off with is sort of a short bio for yourself, how you would describe yourself and so on.
	And let me say that Camelot doesn't just interview whistleblowers.
	We interview contactees.
	We interview researchers, investigators, and authors of all types in every subject.
	So there's no area of conspiracies we don't delve into, to my knowledge.
	And so I just wanted to say that so there's some clarity there.
	But please tell us what you mean by covert witness and also give us a background for the beginnings of your encounters or whatever you want to call them.
	In my definition, a covert witness is a witness to covert and strange goings-on and secrecy regarding strange phenomena that have happened in a domain where it is rigorously denied by the public, sorry, kept out of public view and kept out of the view of the government.
	The government of we the people, if you could call it that, I have seen some very strange goings on.
	I've been targeted for a number of years and neuro-monitored as well.
	And it's not good.
	Not good at all.
	It's not good at all.
	And so it's one of those situations that I've had to deal with all my life.
	And I think the term covert witness means that I have had individuals who have actually stalked me Who have followed me, who have done the most abominable things, and it's got pretty heavy going.
	And that's why I'm a covert witness.
	I witness all this despite there being a denial to what is happening in the public domain.
	There is actually a denial.
	Okay.
	Okay, fair enough.
	And can you now describe...
	It would help.
	I don't know what kind of computer you're looking at, but if there's any way to sort of raise the computer so it's not looking quite at the ceiling as much.
	Oh, sorry.
	Is that better for you?
	More look at your face.
	Okay.
	Is that all right?
	Yeah.
	So it has.
	It's been one of those crazy hair-raising situations that I got myself into.
	At age two, I started having some very strange visions and very strange goings-on.
	It was...
	It was, how can I put it, two years of age, really, when I first had my first extreme paranormal experience, which involved two people walking through a wall at age two.
	I was screaming at my father, saying, look at this, look at this, and pointing to them.
	And my father obviously didn't see anything, but my father was personally psychic.
	He...
	He would, in terms of telling me off as a child, instead of spanking me or hitting me to tell me off, he would lay me sparked out on the bed with a thumping headache.
	Such was his power.
	A lot of people find that very cruel, but that's what happened.
	This liaison with the strange would then follow me and I'd dabble in the occult.
	I started having strange dreams at the age of eight as well about nuclear war and war.
	Very vivid dreams of Issues nuclear at age 8, which I didn't realise would be such an issue at now aged 45.
	And it's only in my 44th and 45th year that these experiences have really, really...
	Become apparent as to why they've been happening and to what they're there for.
	So my information actually comes from my experiences.
	And what is interesting is when you hear other people talk about their experiences, I'm listening for certain keywords, certain nuances that would make me listen to them.
	Because I'm in deep, and I can tell if somebody else is in deep by the nuances and the words that they're using to describe their contact with the UFOs.
	Your government, Kerry, is very in deep with the contact with UFOs, as is the United Kingdom government, but at levels that is beyond most people's comprehension, really.
	It's happening all the time.
	And I think in terms of disclosure, you're probably talking about a 150-year process.
	It is as if the UFO situation and the evolution of mankind will only go at the rate nature allows it to.
	It will only go at a slow time rate.
	This appears to be apparent with the people in the UFOs who I have witnessed.
	It appears to be that kind of thing going on.
	And it can get hair-raising fantastic.
	For example, at 4 o'clock this morning there was something going on which I won't go into immediate details about.
	And the reason for that is because the quality of information is all very good being the narcissist and saying, oh yes, yes, and they came into the room and they did this, they did that, aren't I brilliant?
	No, you've got to really wait for the quality of information.
	So, for example, they were active this morning.
	I ain't got a clue why they were active this morning or what they were doing.
	They were blonde type again, but they were active.
	And I'm not sure why they were doing what they were doing, but they were simply active.
	They are currently active in the airspace of the UK at the moment as well in their UFOs.
	That's another story, but there you go.
	Okay, now I want to slow you down just a minute here.
	So I want to get back to your bio before we kind of launch into what's going on right now around you.
	Yeah, okay.
	Are you having some issue in your room or something like that right now?
	Just a moment.
	Jack, just shut the door, mate, would you please?
	If you wouldn't mind.
	Good lad.
	Thank you.
	That's what he means.
	Oh, bless you, lovely little lad.
	Yeah, no, there we go, mate.
	So, yeah, my bio.
	Yeah, so I kind of like, steer me back on track, Kerry, because sometimes I'll go off at a tangent.
	My biography, yeah.
	So what happens is I'm one of the UK's, I'll work backwards with my bio, I'm one of the UK's leading unorthodox lone wolf contributors in the subject of UFOs and the strange, high strange, due to my experiences.
	My driving engine that led me to the attention of the media is because I had UFOs and unmarked helicopters film me, and I also had people follow me and stalk me, who are belonging to an illegal country.
	COVID agency that is acting without jurisdiction or without electoral dictat as to what it does.
	It's not overseen by anyone.
	It's a cover-up.
	So I blundered straight into that.
	Okay, slow down because you do talk very rapidly so I'm going to try to slow you down at intervals just because it's going to sound a little confusing to the listener and I'm listening to you not so much for myself but for the audience to understand Help understand a chronology,
	why you are where you are today, and so that, you know, if they don't know your work, if they don't know what you've put out there already, they can get a good introduction to you here, and so that's why I will slow you down at times.
	What I wanted to ask you is, I am aware, I travel to the UK quite often, I'm also aware that there is, basically they've made it rather illegal to, I think, You can correct me if I'm wrong, to talk about Being a contactee, is that right?
	Not that I know of.
	What you might get is a situation under extremist laws where somebody somewhere in security organization A doesn't like what member of the public B is saying.
	And that is the scenario I could be faced with.
	I could have somebody somewhere who doesn't like what I'm saying for whatever reason and then carts on the anti-terror extremism laws in order to justify trying to shut people up like myself.
	What I say is in the public interest, and I think just rewinding what happened was, Kerry, in my biography, that in 1992 I had a UFO coming over my house that looked like something out of close encounters.
	I went to stage school, left stage school, and had strange incidents with UFOs over the skies of London that I could not comprehend why, and it was happening in St Mary Cray in Kent, so I've been followed by them.
	And it was very bizarre.
	Let's stop you right there.
	So in 1992, you were, I assume, quite young.
	I was 21 and I was auditioning for London Stage Schools to be an actor and a dancer.
	People don't know what London Stage Schools is.
	The Royal Academy of Dramatic Art, Academy of Live and Recorded Arts.
	And was that the first time that you were aware of UFOs or did you have earlier encounters?
	No, no.
	It was the first time I was aware of UFOs and I could not understand why that was going on.
	I had no idea why it was going on.
	Can we delve into that incident just specifically?
	Just what happened?
	In other words, you just saw a craft above your house Was that the end of the incident?
	What happened was, Kerry, I was coming back from rehearsals.
	We were rehearsing a musical in the local town of Selby, North Yorkshire, where I live, and this UFO appeared for approximately 15 seconds over the rooftop of my home.
	And it was like something out of Close Encounters.
	It was illuminated.
	It had lights on it.
	It was not an aircraft.
	It was just above the house.
	And I was deeply shocked by it.
	I mean, really deeply shocked.
	And after that, it sounds like after that you had other incidents start to happen.
	Do you want to talk...
	Okay, so what happened then, Kerry, is that the situation occurred where nothing actually happened, oddly as that may seem, from 1992.
	Nothing happened at all, of any interest at all.
	I went to stage school.
	I got an audition at a top London theatre school.
	It's not easy to get into one of them.
	You have to be talented, and I got in.
	Much to the grunting and groaning of my father, we didn't have a good relationship there.
	And he just said, oh, well, son, that's all very good, but, you know, why don't you stay at your local town?
	But I wanted to explore the world, Kerry.
	So I went to stage school, and nothing of interest happened at stage school on the UFO front.
	It wasn't until I left stage school and did acting work here and acting work there and got a part-time job in Ladbroke Grove in London that strange things started to happen in 1996 whereby I was walking down the street in a place called Prid Street in Paddington.
	I saw a very small dot of light UFO, well I thought it was an aircraft, just appear heading on collision course with a block of flats.
	There was a fire engine just in front of me.
	Okay, a block of flats, meaning, okay, houses.
	In other words, it was...
	Yeah, houses, block of flats.
	You thought it was a UFO or you thought it was an airplane about to collide?
	I thought it was an airplane about to collide into the block of flaps.
	I ran forward to the fire engine.
	By the time I'd looked, it had vanished.
	It would actually vanish, this thing.
	And that was the start of a chain of events.
	A chain of events that would take me into the most deepest, blackest, darkest paranormal experiences.
	And the most fascinating.
	I would lose everything and I would gain everything as well.
	In terms of the knowledge.
	But that's not where we're at.
	We're jumping forward.
	You want the chronology.
	And I returned.
	I kind of started having these strange goings on where these little dots of light UFOs were following me.
	Everywhere I went, they would follow me.
	When I was in a place called St. Mary Crane, Kent, they'd come over there, the little house I was staying at.
	The dog I was looking after would go berserk, and it was very bizarre.
	It all started in the room where I heard a voice say, Can you not shut that dog up?
	Somebody said in the room.
	I thought, What the hell is all that about?
	And I fell on hard times.
	I fell on hard times.
	And I went back to Yorkshire.
	I moved back to Yorkshire.
	I was sleeping on a friend's floor.
	I was nearly homeless in London, so I went back to Yorkshire in 1996 and that's when it started.
	That's really, Kerry, when it started in July 1996.
	I stood in my back garden, minding my own business.
	Two balls of light just appear from nowhere and emerge as one.
	There was this giant orange flash that woke my mother up and she loomed out the window and said, what was that?
	And then something flashed to my right and just went, hello.
	An entity, something like that.
	And I was in shock for days.
	Just wandered around in shock for weeks even, trying to fathom out what the hell was going on.
	Further down the line, I'd have full-blown interface with them.
	But for now in 96, that's what was going on, Kerry.
	Yeah, so that's where we're at currently for your listeners.
	96 is where it's at.
	And then, kind of like, it escalated to about 97.
	We'll take it to 97, where I'm still baffled by the events.
	I can't understand it.
	I still can't understand why I'm targeted to this day, but that's jumping cruelty.
	Did you start investigating about UFOs on the internet, or had you been doing any of that?
	Right.
	Well, this is important, because what happens is, Kerry, is that I started having...
	Just stick with the chronology.
	In 97, I saw my first kind of female extraterrestrial in 97, which deeply shocked me.
	The shock of that is they don't look like us, but they do.
	If you could imagine you, Kerry, the same skin tone but a little brighter, the face more pointed, blue eyes, blonder hair, looking back at you and saying, hello, how do I look?
	Across, let us say, the landscape, we'll just say for now, we'll keep it simple.
	She appeared in the landscape that we dream in.
	We all dream at night.
	We imagine somebody walking into that landscape and saying, hello, how are you?
	I'm not human.
	and walking off again, and you're thinking, good God.
	And that's connected.
	This event is actually connected, Kelly, because then it started in about 1999, if we're going with the Crudely.
	I'm still baffled by these events.
	Can't understand what's going on.
	And then all hell breaks loose in 1999, because it would appear that I'm being watched.
	And somebody somewhere knows what's going on before I do.
	And that's when it started with the phone calls, the unmarked helicopter and the UFO coming in over my house, literally.
	Which is connected, I think, to the same lady who said hello to me in the dreamscape.
	And that triggers a further doorway now for your listeners into further events with me.
	So we're at the stage of the UFO coming in over my house in 1999, which triggered it all.
	Just triggered.
	All hell broke loose.
	It was shocking.
	I appreciate the reference, but what really do you mean by all hell broke loose?
	It's a good one.
	You're asking the right questions, which makes a change because there are some presenters who don't ask the right questions.
	As I had my misfortune to come across a few weeks ago, but that's another story.
	What we've got, Kerry, is we've got a situation occur, I'll take it from the basics, where the UFO came in over my house in 1999 and it illuminated a TV antenna.
	For no apparent reason it did it twice, but they never do anything for no apparent reason.
	They're doing some things for a specific reason.
	It's like looking at the intergalactic equivalent of NATO. They turn up and they always never turn up without reason.
	But they turned up and they illuminated a TV antenna and flew off again.
	And the situation with that was it went for imagery analysis and it was a UFO. It has been confirmed that it was indeed a UFO. Now, that triggered a series of events where I started getting phone calls to my house and And I started getting followed.
	Not only did I start getting followed, Kerry, and this is the bit where we now go into it now, I started being neurally monitored by the most horrendous mind control, control effects.
	Your listeners, you probably are familiar with it, Kerry.
	Your listeners might not be familiar with something called control effects.
	And I was targeted in the UK by a specific control effects unit.
	The thing, I will just say this as well, is that I wish to differentiate between the people in our national security apparatus We're good to go.
	Of men and women who appeared to find it all very amusing that they could deploy this mind-invasive technology on me while little knowing what they were getting into with me, which is the interesting thing.
	I find it very interesting that they were very naive.
	They knew a bit, but they didn't know enough as to what they were getting into with me.
	I've discovered this only recently in the past few months as all this has come to fruition.
	But basically, Kelly, I was tortured by them.
	When you say you were tortured, how did it manifest?
	What were the actual things that you felt or saw?
	Well, for example, a popular thing they would do is wake you up for work on a morning with an alarm clock ringing in your head.
	So I would be working 12-hour shifts and at quarter to six on a morning they'd ring an alarm clock, if I was asleep, literally in my head.
	And your whole body would vibrate with the sound of the alarm clock.
	Another thing that they would do is they would do defecation effects while laid in the bed.
	Gunfire, screaming.
	An incident happened in January 2001, which I thought I would never get up from.
	I thought I was going to die, actually, because they hammered me that hard with this technology.
	And it was similar to the music from Hitchcock's shower scene of Psycho.
	And the stabbing motion of being stabbed in the head, continually violently stabbed in the head.
	What is even more shocking, Kerry, is that this Dr.
	Strangelove guy would then, he would also relax you while doing it and make you feel that you were enjoying it while he was doing it in order to absolutely traumatize you.
	So my driving engine is all about the man and his Dr.
	Strangelove unit that targeted me and it's been an ongoing covert war.
	Wait one second because I just want to delve into this a little bit.
	So you're saying you had this...
	I'm not sure what you're saying.
	You're saying you actually saw a person doing this to you or you had this happen in your dream?
	No.
	What it is, Kerry, is that you have in the United Kingdom and perhaps in America a UFO secret police.
	You have a secret police that enforces silence upon anyone Who is deemed to talk about this subject in a very open way like I do.
	Stephen Bassett has commented on it.
	A few other people have commented.
	Even love him or hating Dr Stephen Greer has been hit.
	You have been hit by the very effects that I am speaking about.
	You know that territory.
	And they're an unaccountable, disgraceful goon squad who do not serve the greater good and protection of the public, but seem to serve their own agenda.
	And it was driven, as I say, by one man in particular who had a habit.
	They'd do the covert surveillance and they'd do the overt surveillance.
	The overt surveillance they found very amusing because what they would do is they'd leave answering machine messages detailing where I'd just walked out of.
	If I'd walked out of a shop, there'd be an answering machine message, but it would be a conversation between two people about where I'd just left or where I'd come out of.
	So there were messages on your phone?
	Yeah, not directly, Kerry.
	It was referring to, for example, oh, I see he's come out of the shop again.
	He's laden with shopping.
	Yeah, he's putting on weight.
	I bet he doesn't get enough sleep.
	This kind of thing.
	Coming over an answering machine message overt.
	Covert would be subtle nuances to you as you're walking past someone.
	This guy was adept, this guy I'm speaking of who was responsible for the mind-invasive stuff, was adept at waking me up at all hours with all kinds of effects, including waking me up at 3, 4 in the morning to go to the toilet, which was absolutely horrifying, Kerry, but believe me when I say that I have risen above all this.
	So I don't want your listeners to get into the fear factor with me and see that, you know, because a few years ago I'd talk about So I want to get back to the thing where you were talking about sort of the stabbing thing.
	How did this happen?
	Was this physical in the physical world or was this something that happened in the astral?
	It wasn't even the astral, Kerry.
	It was an advanced neural weapon that they were testing of some description.
	There is no way it could have happened in the astral.
	It was a control effect, possibly delivered by scalar sound with microwave.
	Definitely delivered, neurally monitored into the...
	You had an incident, didn't you?
	You were telling me in an email where something happened to you.
	That didn't happen.
	That happened fully in the physical, didn't it?
	Well, you manifest it physically, but what I'm kind of getting at, just for the people that are listening, you know, that when you describe this sort of stabbing thing, were you sleeping when it happened?
	Were you in sort of half sleep, half awake?
	No, it was four and three in the morning when they do their stuff, which is the best time really.
	So I was asleep at the time.
	It happened and could not wake up from what they were doing.
	And then I suddenly woke up.
	Let me just say to the listeners actually that I know this is something that a lot of people are going through actually and I have had people contact me with similar things and there are people have written about this extensively also in Britain and there are teams of people that do target individuals and they do Actually try to,
	in essence, what you might say is make them go crazy.
	Yeah?
	So in a sense, it sounds like you were one of those targeted individuals.
	It sounds like they were trying to disturb your, what they call, you know, REM sleep and all this kind of thing and putting sort of images and thoughts and various things into your head.
	And it appears that you were in somewhat of a vulnerable situation in which you could not protect yourself from this invasion.
	At the same time you were having ET or, you know, interdimensional Sort of contact experiences, yes?
	That's absolutely right.
	And you see, Kerry, you've roughly got it.
	You've got the gist of what's going on.
	Probably you lightly discussed that, but you probably understand it far deeper.
	Yes, that's correct.
	That's exactly what was going on.
	And it got very, very hair-raising at one point in the proceedings.
	And it's very worrying.
	Let me ask you this.
	In some people's stories along these lines, I remember one specifically, and I can't remember his name, but I can't remember if I've interviewed him off the record or on the record, because I do so many interviews, but I can tell you that he was British, and he was telling me that he actually, I don't know whether he committed himself or he was committed.
	He somehow ended up in a mental hospital during this time when he was being targeted.
	Or a hospital setting.
	Did you ever get into one of those situations?
	No, I've never been in one of those situations, Kerry.
	And the things that are lumbering over my house at the moment, it would appear, I think, the goon squad that would attempt to do incarceration had better think twice before they do, because it would appear I'm a man who's involved with somebody else.
	Involved with the smarter opponents.
	they played a game that these people they played the dice they knew a bit of knowledge, they played the game with me but they played a smarter opponent it would appear and I'm very pleased to say that because I want the individual man who I believe was responsible I want him to firm at the mouth and I want to deliver the quality of information that is required.
	I have no doubt Kerry here in the UK that this scenario may happen where I may come across it, where I may come across such a scenario where they attempt that because of the changes in the law and all that kind of thing.
	But there'll be one hell of a firefight if they do because there is human rights, the right to speed of a speech, the right to opinion, and the rights, of course, to religious expression.
	And I have always differentiated between protection of the public and the people who targeted me, which is an entirely different ballgame altogether.
	Can you tell us why you're sort of Selecting a certain man as being responsible.
	Did you meet this man?
	Yeah, yeah, I did, Kerry.
	The thing is, Kerry, another thing of my control is that I suffer from mental exhaustion as well.
	It stalks me all the time.
	Therefore, sometimes I may forget what I've said in a very short-term memory.
	So it's good for an interviewer just to prompt me slightly in case I just go off, you know, and the audience then leaves Fred.
	So this is a good thing.
	The man in particular was stalking me, definitely.
	I don't think he's still read in to the project that he was involved with because he reminds me of...
	There's a film called Smoking Aces.
	There's a character in there who is played by the actor Nesta Carbonell called Gerald Daigo and he looks the absolute spitting image of this man.
	You just couldn't get it any closer.
	Now, what was happening was...
	This guy came into a local pub one evening, a pub, a bar, an ale house in my local town.
	And I'd been dreaming about him, Kerry, for a number of weeks, as if the universe was saying, it's him, it's him, it's him.
	And sure enough, he turned up in a pub.
	I thought, oh my God.
	But your brain, you see, when somebody is being targeted, Kerry, and they're not trained to cope with the mindset, the mindset that's coming at you is very much like in the Jason Bourne films.
	Where they're going after him.
	There's that bit in one of the Bourne movies where the journalist is on Victoria Station and you've got these crazy swines in the CIA going after the journalist without jurisdiction, going after Jason Bourne, who's a victim of mind control.
	And it's this psychotic mindset that just...
	Is comfortable in its own empire, cannot be challenged, enjoys the diplomatic immunity of secrecy, wanders into a pub and comments on what they were doing to me, says to me as I wander past him to his colleague, I see he's off to the toilet again.
	As I walk past him.
	And then she says to him, why isn't Anthony speaking to us?
	15 years, Kerry, I've talked to that story and it's not changed.
	It never will change because it bloody well happened.
	And they stopped me in that pub.
	And what is interesting is they played a smarter opponent.
	They definitely played a smarter opponent.
	And so that's why it's a covert witness.
	That's why I've been in a covert war with people who I don't understand, who do not have jurisdiction, who do not protect the public.
	What the hell are they bloody doing?
	So that was the situation that occurred with him.
	And my driving engine has been to speak out against the utter depravity that they exposed me to with this...
	Very advanced technology and not understanding the baffling UFO stuff that came in over the house as well and the unmarked helicopter.
	I mean, for God's sake, they sent an unmarked helicopter after me, Kerry, in the 1990s that filmed me.
	But the thing is, he was filming me side-on.
	To cut a long story short, his flight pattern was side-on.
	I filmed it.
	Side-on, side-on.
	He hovered across a road junction.
	It was like something out of a Jason Bourne film.
	He's hovering across a road junction at the height of a lamppost.
	Side-on.
	Well, he has to be side-on because he's taking measurements and signature intelligence analysis.
	And we sent the helicopter for analysis.
	The bloody thing's bristling with sensors and camera gear.
	A Lynx pilot commented he'd never seen anything like it because it was an unusual helicopter.
	Blistling with gear.
	Because they knew that a situation was occurring with me that involved the UFOs and the people behind them.
	And they were trying to brute force hack it and trying to listen in and monitor it is what they were doing, I do believe.
	So at this moment, what I'm wondering is, do you think that the contact experiences you are having...
	Do you know which beings they are?
	Were they all the same group or were they different?
	And what were they communicating to you, if anything?
	Okay, alright, okay.
	Some of this, because of what goes on behind the scenes, some of this must remain deeply personal to me and for my own safety, firstly and foremostly.
	So, of course, you have got to be careful, Kerry.
	There's a guy in NASA at the moment who you won't know about, even you probably won't know of him, who's given an interview to Whitley Stryber.
	I know who he is.
	But he hasn't gone public with his experiences because he's a major academic and he'll get shot to pieces because of it.
	But that's not the point.
	The point is you do have a goon squad out there who's doing all this and it's very wrong.
	But anyway, another story.
	Basically, there are several ET groups that are out there.
	The one that I am mainly dealing with is Blonde, Blue-Eyed, what you would refer to as the Nord or Nordic.
	They are the ones who I am currently mainly dealing with.
	Had it not been for them, I would probably have thrown myself in the river and committed suicide.
	They saved my life.
	But they saved my life, Kerry, for what reason?
	We're among friends here.
	This is Project Camelot.
	We go in deep.
	So for what reason?
	Because they don't do anything without reason.
	What's their investment?
	That's the question.
	That's the question you have got to ask is what is their investment?
	But I assure you that they are not from around here.
	Okay, but I'm trying to, I guess what I'm trying to do is figure out why, you know, what they're doing, what they're saying to you.
	In other words, they have an investment that's speculative.
	Are you having verbal contact?
	No, absolutely.
	No, we're having kindergarten drip, drip, drip contact with them.
	They're going at a pace that I can understand.
	They've said to me that I will not be able to understand their science.
	In fact, currently, their science is possibly, we would only grasp it possibly about 140 years from now.
	It'll take us to maybe grasp their science.
	But for now, currently, it's all very kindergarten.
	It's all very drip, drip, drip.
	It's all at a level that I can handle.
	They've told me that I will not be able to comprehend their science, but I will be able to understand their spirituality and their spiritual understanding of things and the information that has come from them.
	The thing is, Kerry, is that I can't tell you why they're not telling me.
	Of course, they're not telling me why.
	Do you get my drift?
	So I'm in a scenario where they're being a bit cagey as to why they're turning up and why they're doing what they're doing.
	There's been some comical moments with them.
	I kid you not, it's been hilarious, darkly comical with them.
	But they're not telling me specifically why yet.
	They're turning up and doing what they're doing, but they are.
	It possibly relates to power.
	It possibly relates to the fact that there has been a signature signal left in me by a higher intelligence than them because the universe is as supernatural to them as it is to us.
	And it appears to be that that is a possible case for Of why they're turning up because they're monitoring.
	They watch and they monitor very closely what goes on.
	Are you aware of having any implants?
	I am implanted, yes.
	I do have an implant, yes.
	Alright, fair enough.
	Can you describe, have you been, for example, have you dealt with greys?
	I have never seen a grey.
	This is what's baffling, Kerry.
	In all my career, which spans a lifetime of doing this, I've seen things that would, probably you have as well, that would put your hair on end, but I've never seen a grey.
	I've seen...
	No, I'm just going down a laundry list here.
	What about praying mantis?
	Have you ever seen one of those?
	What about reptilians?
	Yes.
	Okay, can you describe those?
	Isn't it amazing how we mention reptilians?
	The audio always goes...
	Sorry.
	In other words, what I'd like to get is sort of, I'm sure the viewer as well would like to know, if you've seen reptilians, have you seen only one?
	What do they look like?
	Or have you seen several different ones?
	And what do they look like?
	I've seen two of different skin colour.
	And what do they look like?
	Shocking, frankly, Kerry.
	There's only one word.
	You just look and think, good God.
	Good God, that's Draco.
	That is a Draco reptilian.
	Joseph McMoneagle, the U.S. Army's most decorated remote viewer, he had an incident with one in his kitchen.
	As I understand in his autobiography, he's actually had a couple of the U.S. remote viewers.
	Look, I've met some reptilians.
	I've seen reptilians.
	So I have no issue with this.
	What I want to know is, for your purpose, for the purposes here of interviewing you, Saying that they were shocking is your reaction to them.
	It doesn't tell me what they look like.
	So are you saying they looked like...
	Can you describe them?
	Did they look humanoid?
	Yeah, they were humanoid, but from the land that time forgot, as they refer themselves to, there's probably a whole piece of our history that's missing because at some level, as wacky as it may seem, the dinosaurs walked and talked, but that's missing from our evolutionary history and agenda.
	It's just missing, isn't it, Kerry?
	So what you've got is a scenario where these...
	What fascinated me about them was their eyes.
	Their energy level from their eyes was quite unbelievable.
	But there is an element to this intelligence where if it was a biological collective of consciousness, it's very corrupt and very dark and very depraved at some level.
	That's all I can describe it as really.
	Do you want to describe any of the incidents in which you met a reptilian and what happened?
	The incident in which I met Zaretzilian, it only happened for about two seconds and it was looking at me and that's all I can say.
	Anything else would be erroneous to describe, to expand it in any way would be wrong.
	The presence of something very ancient around that era is still around humanity today, controlling things and it must be treated with respect.
	But I can't add to that, Kerry, because that would be wrong to do so.
	Okay, for example, I have seen a winged Shakar is what they're called.
	I've seen a reptilian with wings.
	Did the ones that you saw have wings?
	No, they didn't have wings.
	They were possibly in another space-time dimension, probably just outside the periphery of the human subconscious collective dreamscape, possibly in the fourth dimension, not local to time as we would know it, basically, yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Okay, then moving on from reptilians, you say you've seen the tall blondes, it sounds like.
	Yeah, variants as well.
	And what is fascinating is the one I liaise with, he's about 30 years of age, I would suggest, the guy in question that I have often seen, that I'm having comical capers with currently.
	He is about 30 years of age, very intelligent, very And just refreshing, really.
	Just at first, the impact of what they look like, Kerry, is just unbelievable.
	They did something wild with me a few weeks back, and it was wild.
	Because what you've got is you've got the Stephenville incident, you've got the Belgium UFO triangle incident.
	They're triangles.
	They're highly capable craft.
	Highly capable.
	They're capable of air, sea and space.
	They're artificially intelligent.
	They have a mind of their own, their craft.
	So when you see some of their triangles talking about, it's Nord.
	It's from Andromeda.
	They're from Andromeda.
	A lot of people say that they're from here, they're from there, but they've told me that they're from Andromeda.
	They're from the Andromeda galaxy.
	Encounter with beings from that craft, are you saying?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	But what is more fascinating...
	...from that Andromedan craft, were they...
	No, they're tall, blonde.
	There's variants of them, but mainly they are Nordic from Andromeda.
	They're blonde beings, as they refer themselves to.
	They're blonde.
	They're women.
	They're a very tribal collective of people.
	They have a tribal kind of element.
	They're very proud of who they are.
	that's what struck me about them very proud of who they are their craft are very advanced but what happens is that the craft has a mind of its own Carrie, has an awareness of the mind of its own and the experience of merging with that mind is absolutely incredible So you see we've gone from this torture with mind control to the far reaches of the paranormal and dealing with these people from other worlds.
	So I've lost everything and gained a lot in terms of insights and knowledge.
	But the insight of a machine intelligence speaking to you, which was the craft, It was absolutely staggering.
	And so I know when they're around.
	They will let me know when they're about.
	They're coming over the house.
	And they do it very kindergarten, very tippy-toe-y, because they need to, because it scares me.
	I cannot honestly say that I'm greeting them with open hands as the Space Brothers, because I'm wondering what the hell's going on, and they're not quite telling me.
	But they're intelligent.
	They're smart.
	Okay, so when did you start, let's say, we kind of got up to the year 2000 or beyond, I believe in sort of your chronology, but when did you start to interact, I guess you might say, interact with the...
	The machine intelligence issue was only about two weeks ago because they are obviously, I don't quite know what they're doing, but they're analysing, they're monitoring a situation to do with what your US government would call in the 1950s non-human entities or NHE under the umbrella of a shadowy organisation called the Collins Elite.
	Have you heard of them at all?
	I don't know what you've heard of, but there was a Majestic 12, Collins Elite, that kind of thing.
	Collins Elite were looking at kind of like what's going on, there's something deeper, more dark, demonic going on within the UFO situation.
	Actually, let's just stop you right there.
	You're saying that there's something called the Collins Elite.
	And you're starting to be, at least reference, a sort of a satanic side.
	And actually, the satanic side is very important, what's going on in Britain in particular.
	And I'm wondering if you can go into that direction a little bit more.
	No, I can't.
	I have other people to think of on my own personal safety, Kerry, at the moment.
	You don't want to talk about it, but you know about it.
	Yeah, I'm fully aware of it.
	Just at this moment in time, Kerry, because there are other family members that I need to look after closely that are vulnerable.
	Because these people, Kerry, are deranged.
	They are lethal.
	They are deranged.
	They're not very pleasant.
	And I get the royal treatment, Kerry.
	You know, I don't just get any old dark man coming to me.
	I get THE man who Project Kamalot may know of.
	A lot of people talk about him.
	And the thing is that these hierarchies have been around us for a very long time.
	And it is that kind of theme that targeted me.
	All through my mind control, there was a very dark theme of that running through it, Kerry, so I'm aware of it.
	It's just that I'm at a stage where I have other people to think of, so therefore I'm just careful about what I say.
	But in the UK, it is real.
	In the UK, children are being abused by them.
	It's very nasty.
	Yes.
	Okay, that's very true.
	So, at this moment, because, you know, people often talk about the UFO sort of subject, but they neglect to mention the satanic side of it.
	Yes, they do.
	Very important, if you're aware of both sides, that people start to put those two together.
	So, I'm not asking you to necessarily talk about that in any depth.
	But acknowledging that you're aware of it is enough.
	Yeah, there's a very ancient force, Kerry, that controls this planet.
	The aliens refer to it as the overlord consciousness.
	What is interesting about this, Kerry, is that I had a face-to-face, head-on meeting with it.
	I met it across the dreamscape.
	It looked at me.
	I looked at it.
	It's to do with esoteric.
	It's to do with the very deep esoteric goings-on.
	Because I'm not quite what I appear.
	It would appear.
	There you go.
	But that's another story.
	But basically, this thing looked at me and I looked at it.
	This is what's interesting about it, Kerry, is that it needs to evolve.
	So what you've got is this controlling intelligence that has caused two world wars on this planet, yes, death of human beings en masse, two world wars, all kinds of goings-on, but it needs to evolve.
	It's smart enough to know this.
	And that's what I saw when I was exposed to it.
	But the thing is, when you're exposed to that exposure of non-human entities across a dreamscape, Kerry, you're traumatized.
	It traumatizes you.
	And it leaves you, your aura, your energy sending out all kinds of weird shit, basically.
	It's hideous.
	Absolutely hideous.
	So that's what I'm talking about, you know, about it.
	So I hope that just clarifies.
	And there's a history of this, of kind of like remote viewers, members of the government being exposed to this non-human entity.
	Well, okay.
	I mean, trauma.
	Let me slow you down a little bit here.
	So have you ever had anyone regress you?
	No.
	No.
	And have you ever consulted any psychics or other people that you might consider to be psychic?
	On numerous occasions, yes.
	Okay.
	And were they able to help you at all?
	Yes, two people have been able to help me, very much so.
	One guy who I didn't think would be able to help me in a million years, who was the head of the spiritual church.
	He was a spiritual teacher in Southport in Merseyside in the UK, who was a tremendous help to me.
	What it is, Kerry, is when you're exposed at that level to what's going on, You need to make sure that your state of consciousness becomes very disciplined in aligning with the greater power, in aligning with the cosmic consciousness, because if you don't, you will be toast, basically.
	Okay, great.
	So at this moment, can you talk about where you are now with everything?
	Where I am now at the moment is...
	I can hear my voice just feeding back to you, Kerry.
	Can you hear me okay?
	I can hear you fine.
	You can hear me fine.
	I can just hear myself coming back to me.
	That's alright.
	Where I am at the moment is the fact that I'm being closely watched by the people in the UFOs.
	I'm having a liaison with three groups.
	There is a situation of ethical concern among them over what one particular group exposed me to and That's where we are at at the moment.
	The liaison with the blonde people is continuing and will continue.
	It will go on for whatever reason that is going on for.
	I haven't got quite the answers to why that's going on, but they are certainly going to appear over my home again, I think, and we're going to film them yet again.
	We will film the UFO again that they're in.
	It will come over the house at some point in the proceedings.
	I'm expecting it, basically, which is quite comical because the world's tearing itself apart and I've got this little liaison going on with people not from around here, you know?
	Yes, of course.
	Now, you say there was some kind of incident that these groups are aware of.
	With regard to you, that's a very vague statement.
	It is, Kerry.
	I'm going to come on to it.
	I'm going to come on to it, of course.
	We can't leave your listeners coming out with remarks like that without clarification.
	Of course not, though.
	I'm going to move on to that.
	What it is, Kerry, is that if you have a liaison with dimensional people...
	In another dimension, we'll call them.
	You are crossing a spiritual plane.
	You are crossing an astral plane, let us say.
	And you are crossing like an ocean of time and space.
	And your liaison with them is kind of like forward in time from where you currently are.
	Because they're further forward in time.
	Time is non-local.
	It's not running as normal Earth time.
	They're further down the timeline.
	So what you've got is the scenario is that you have this liaison with them, and then you're put back into current time, and you are carrying with you a signature where everybody sees you within what's known as a space-time continuum.
	Hold on one moment here, Tony.
	I'm getting a message here that we're having an echo from you that's started.
	Now, it's funny because I can't hear it, but I am being told that there is an echo from you.
	There is.
	Yeah, there is a clear echo coming back.
	I can hear it.
	I'm echoing to you.
	Okay.
	Could you perhaps turn your audio a bit lower at your end and I'll turn it up at my end just a bit, not a lot.
	Sometimes that helps an echo if you're getting feedback over there.
	Let me know if that And this has just started, from what I understand, correct?
	Yeah, it will.
	No doubt it will do.
	Just try that.
	Is that any good?
	That's probably stopped it now at my end.
	Can you hear me?
	I can hear you fine.
	Okay, yeah.
	It's a feedback loop of some description.
	I can still hear it, I'm afraid, but I hope it doesn't affect the broadcast.
	Okay, yeah, I'm a bit concerned about that.
	I don't know.
	I guess my producer is in the background here.
	I'm going to ask that he would...
	He says it's a bit clearer.
	Okay, so you were trying to answer the question which had to do with...
	You had mentioned there were two, from what I understand, two groups that you're dealing with in England.
	I don't know if these are UFO groups or what, but can you explain?
	You said there was some kind of dissension between the two groups over treatment of you.
	It could be.
	It's treatment of me and possibly treatment of other human beings as well because of what they're being exposed to.
	We're not just being exposed to the dreamscape, the astral plane.
	We're being exposed to a space-time continuum environment, some of us.
	Whereby time is kind of like not local.
	And we're being seen by other people and other forces that are not local to our time.
	And this can cause some real problems.
	And your left, the contactee experiencer, is left with the life that is shattered by the experience.
	It's not all peace, love and light with them.
	And you're shattered by it.
	Okay, but what has that got to do with the groups you're dealing with?
	Well, what that's got to do with the groups is the fact that these groups appear to be analysing and monitoring a situation that has occurred with me that is beyond my comprehension, and it's like I'm holding a set of cards, they see the set of cards, Kerry, and they know the cards I'm holding, but they're not telling me.
	So in answer to your question, I don't know the answer to that question.
	I'm trying to find that out just as much as you are.
	To say that I know is wrong and to exaggerate it in any way would be incorrect.
	And I've got to be careful of that.
	You can't exaggerate this.
	It's what it is.
	This is what I'm seeing.
	I've got journals from 2001 to the current date of all kinds of events and happenings being awoken at all hours because some human beings have jumped the evolutionary ladder, perhaps a slightly more evolved path.
	The normal should be.
	We're in the wrong place at the wrong time.
	And it's caused all kinds of problems.
	What I can't get over, Kerry, is the creepiness of it all, the shadiness of it all, the reluctance of them to tell me any more information about what is going on.
	And that really troubles me a great deal.
	And that will include people who are listening to the show who probably have...
	There will be people, an agency out there that will have a file a mile wide on me.
	They will know why because they targeted me first.
	They knew why before I did.
	Let me say this.
	We know that contactees are actually monitored in a very big way and they continue to be by the powers that be, as we call them, simply because it's their only window in to what the ETs are doing with Other humans besides the ones that they're dealing with in a direct way.
	So, of course they're interested and they are, sometimes they're very aggressive about it.
	Sometimes they want to stop it.
	They're trying to stop and interfere with your contact.
	And sometimes they're actually, that's part of why they try to make you question your sanity.
	And so on and by doing crazy stuff to you and getting you mentally exhausted in the process.
	Your government Kerry is so involved in this in ways that it doesn't even comprehend yet.
	And that is interesting because what happened is a few weeks ago you will notice on the icon that you put up for your viewers in the background the picture of a triangle.
	Did you see it from one of my drawings?
	It's an illustration done by Lloyd Canning.
	It's a Nordic triangle.
	And last year, in the year 2014, while I slept, they appeared over my house as clear as day at the height of the Ukraine crisis.
	And they were more or less speaking to someone as if the volume was turned off.
	The party they were speaking to, Kerry, I have no idea who they were, but they were speaking to a third party.
	They were speaking to a human party, a third party, to which I am a repeater for.
	So in a nutshell, I'm involved in an operation where I am a go-between.
	I am part of a party of people who are being communicated with.
	And it was at that moment that the Ukraine crisis stepped down and de-escalated and de-escalated because the governments of Russia, Britain and America are aware of these people and are aware that they are an advanced culture and are aware that they were being warned.
	The question was, Kerry, is who is he, the Nordic blonde guy, speaking to across the dimension of time and space?
	He was speaking to someone, but it wasn't me, it was via me.
	So this is the kind of the crazy stuff that I'm subjected to.
	It's some type of dark operation of communication.
	What do you mean by it wasn't you, it was via you?
	It was via me.
	It's kind of similar to being in a repeater network, Kerry, that isn't governed by time.
	I can't understand what the link is, but basically it's a link through me to someone else who is obviously monitoring and communicating with them, either in this current time, Or in a future time?
	Because the activities of the Blondes are not dictated by time in the sense that we would know.
	And there is a school of thinking that say that Nordics from Andromeda come for our future, and I think that there is something in that, that they possibly do come from our future.
	The activities that we're seeing at the moment with the UFOs are indeed possibly not from this current time, but from a future time, and are interacting in the now to Now,
	what I'm going to do here is I'm going to share your photos that you gave me because I do have them here.
	And you'll see them here on the screen between us.
	And then you can also tell me, because I've got them in a line here, so I'm going to try to navigate from one to the other.
	And let me just show you all of them, so you can see which ones I have.
	Yeah, that's great.
	Now, do you want me to focus on any one of these?
	Yeah, focus on the drawing with the triangles, Kerry, if you will.
	All right.
	So what happens is, is that there is a, in Russia, there was an interview given to Pravda by a Russian general called Alexei Yusavin, who indicated that he had a very special unit of remote viewers that was looking at this kind of scenario of contact with extraterrestrials.
	And he said that 90% of the time, the contactee or experiencer, what would happen is, Alexei Yusavin indicated to the Russian media that 90% of the time, The contacting experiencer will have interaction with female aliens.
	Ten percent, it's a rarity that you will have contact with a male UFO occupant.
	But on the morning in May 2014, I was due to film with a UK broadcaster outside a prestigious London institute that deals with affairs.
	It deals with big affairs of state and all this kind of thing.
	We were due to film outside there.
	And before I went there, I was awoken.
	Well, I saw this vision in sleep.
	The illustrator Lloyd Canning has done a marvellous job of two triangles coming in over a field and two clocks.
	The first clock says quarter to midnight and the second clock says five to midnight.
	It was at the height of the Ukraine crisis.
	And this guy was speaking to somebody.
	Like I'm speaking to you now, Kerry.
	You can see me on camera.
	If you could imagine him not being human, like I am now with the boom mic, but he didn't have a boom mic on, speaking to someone without any volume, and then going out the dream again as if nothing had happened.
	But he was speaking to someone.
	That's the big thing.
	He was speaking to someone.
	If you can still hear me, what is interesting is you will see the drawing of a plane coming over my house.
	It's kind of like, what's that one?
	It's image 4.
	I've got it as an image.
	That's the one.
	Now, that there was taken the other night.
	That's a Hercules C-130, which is attached to 9th Army Air Corps in the UK. What is interesting about that C-130 is that it's on manoeuvres.
	It's actually on operational manoeuvres, but it's paying particular attention and circling the field In question where those two triangles are or where they might appear.
	So the drawing that you've just shown the listeners is of the two triangles coming in over the field and that Hercules C-130 circulated that field 11 times and did a routine combat training exercise of landing and taking off rapidly again in that area.
	What is interesting about that C-130 is that it has an army reconnaissance flash on it.
	It is reconnaissance.
	It's recon.
	It's reconnaissance aircraft.
	It could be a routine maneuver, but it was paying particular attention to that field.
	And for a number of weeks, jets over that area, of where I indicate those triangles are, jets would be flying in over that area, typhoon fighters continually flying over that area, doing high-level aerial dogfights.
	So...
	On the scenario, we are expecting something.
	If you go to Image 2, the UFO's Image 2 JPEG, I think that is, you'll see that the Hercules is doing his combat manoeuvre training.
	What he's going to do, this Hercules here, that's Image 2.
	It's a picture of the Hercules.
	I've got it here as Image 2.
	That's the one, Kerry.
	Well done.
	Excellent.
	Image 2.
	And what's happening there is the Hercules is on approach to a place called Burn Aerodrome.
	It's going to do some tactical landing maneuvers.
	So what a C-130 does, it can take off and land at high speed in a short space of time on a very rapid descent and a very rapid ascent.
	It can do all that.
	But in the background, as we can see there, is the UFOs in the background.
	And those UFOs are closely monitoring what's going on.
	And they are...
	Intensive direction as to where that plane is.
	They are roughly in the area where that drawing that we saw listeners are.
	So something is going on, Kerry, but we just can't quite put our finger on it.
	As you can see, the plane circled my house on a number of occasions.
	If we look at image two, this is of absolute fascination to your listeners.
	I think that's image two or image three, is it, with the UFO? I think it's image three.
	Actually, yeah, that's the one.
	Yeah, well done.
	Excellent.
	Okay, this was taken at the Lindisfarne Festival near Hurley Island in Newcastle in the United Kingdom.
	I'm just about to give a talk about UFOs to the festival goers, and my iPhone 5 takes a photo of one of them, as you can see.
	A few weeks before that happened, they did indicate to me that they are a particular group that we would know as the Illuminous Ones.
	They are their technology, their biology, where they come from, God only knows, but they're very different to human beings in biology.
	and they've indicated to us that they have been monitoring us since World War II.
	What is tragic about that is that in the area of Vietnam and Asia, a lot of them appear to be getting shot down of that type of UFO.
	I'm not sure what the connection is between them being there and watching me.
	I'm definitely sure there's a connection with blonde ones.
	But Jason Gleaves here in the UK, of Spiritual Horizons, he's ex RAF, We know that there's something going on.
	We know that there's some sort of warning and I know that they are speaking to someone.
	A third party that is human that is probably a bit more smarter and clued up than I am on all this.
	Yeah, that's nice, Kerry.
	And as you can see there, Jason's done an excellent job in just highlighting the object coming in.
	Later on, on that Saturday evening, we went up to Hurley Island near Newcastle and we were buzzed seven times by it.
	Seven times it came.
	It flew over us.
	It came to a very illuminous, it went very white in colour, opened up to say hello and went off again.
	And it passed the people I was with about seven times on that evening to say hello to us.
	And that's, as you can see, Kerry, yeah, there you go.
	And there it is.
	That's a very nice shot of it in the clouds there, just overlooking me as I took a photo on my phone.
	I didn't even realise I'd seen it until Jason pointed it out to me.
	And I think you'll find if you go to image one, You'll see the C-130 just coming in on its approach Actually,
	I'm going to interrupt you here because I'd like you to explain And I know we have a bit of an echo, so I don't know if you know where your mute button is on this screen, but it's at the top.
	If you mute yourself while I talk and then I have to mute myself while you talk, it seems to eliminate our echo issue.
	At any rate, what I wanted to ask you is, initially you had mentioned this drawing, and this drawing First of all, I'd like to know who drew it, and second of all, are you saying that this is actually something that happened in your dream?
	In other words, you said that there was a man who was on some kind of communication device talking to what appeared to be, if I understand it correctly, two UFOs, that you saw this in your sort of vision or whatever, and then...
	Somehow, did you ask a friend to draw this?
	What was the procedure there?
	And I'm going to mute myself so you can talk.
	Okay, Kenny.
	Well, the procedure there was, this was a vision that came in May due to me before I went to London for the afternoon to film with the broadcaster Channel 4 outside a place called the Royal Institute of International Affairs.
	It is rumoured, although I have no idea whether this is correct or not, that some contactees, they take an interest in this kind of thing.
	And what happened was I was asleep at the time.
	As clear as day, these two UFOs came in as I was sleeping, as if in a dream, but it was more clear than a dream.
	It was definitely them.
	Their unmistakable art, their iconography, it was definitely the blondes.
	And a man, and all I can describe him as, looks similar to me on the microphone as we can see, but blonde, blue-eyed, very real, was mouthing something to somebody, speaking as if the sound was turned off, as if he'd been muted so that I couldn't hear what he was saying, but somebody else could.
	And they drew two clocks, two giant clocks, and they gave emphasis to the one pointing at five to midnight.
	Emphasis, massive emphasis on the one pointing at five to midnight.
	at the height of the Ukraine crisis because our governments are aware that they're there.
	Okay, who drew this?
	This is the excellent work of Lloyd Canning, He's an illustrator in the UK who does fantastic artwork to do with UFOs, and he does illustrations for me.
	He's currently working on another one, which is to do with a vision from future Earth time, which will be fascinating once we get the result from him, which is a story in itself.
	But this one here in particular is the vision that I had, and that was done by Lloyd Canning here in the UK. Alright, thank you for that.
	So in terms of these other pictures, when you say you saw this, are these the same UFO, the one in, let's see, slide 1, slide 2, and then slide 3?
	Are those all the same UFO in your opinion or not?
	Is it the same incident, let's say?
	What you've got there is a scenario where for some reason, in simplest terms, you have the intergalactic equivalent of NATO taking an interest in our skies.
	I know that sounds odd, but it's the only way that I can put it.
	I think that they are connected, but for reasons I know why, I'm not sure.
	At the moment, what you've got there is the image one, I think that's image three, was taken over Newcastle near Hurley Island in Berwick, which is a very sacred place.
	Yes, and the other one was taken only the other evening.
	The Hercules issue, I think that happened on Tuesday night of this week.
	It's now Friday, isn't it?
	So Tuesday night of this week, I think that happened with the Hercules.
	And yes, they could well be the same UFO that is monitoring, or they might not be.
	I'm not sure on that.
	There's certainly a liaison going on.
	There's a liaison going on with these UFOs and somebody else's And that's the mysterious part of it.
	Nobody, Kerry, seems to be letting me know the full extent of information as to why this is going on, which is something I've got to live with.
	Okay, so in essence, you're kind of an observer.
	Yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah.
	And you're documenting this.
	You're on the scene, and one would wonder if you're actually being notified ahead of time To be in the right place at the right time.
	Yeah, that's absolutely correct.
	It's a simple situation of whereby I don't need to stand there and expect them.
	They'll just tell me when they're turning up and I'll probably film them.
	That such is the liaison with them.
	So yeah, it is a case of being in the right place at the right time.
	Perhaps it's a case of seeing in the future as well as to where we're going with things.
	I'm not too sure really.
	I just can't put my finger on the why, Kerry.
	I know the who.
	I don't know the why.
	And I know the landscape, but I still don't know the why.
	And that for me is very, very sad in some ways because I may go to the grave, Kerry, not knowing.
	I may end up departing and going into the next life because it may be that these experiences actually kick into the next life.
	They don't just do things on a single time frame.
	It spans an evolutionary time span with them.
	So I may move into the next life with still these experiences chasing my ass, which is disturbing, I find.
	Okay.
	But at this time, we're going to sort of look for questions from the audience.
	We've been going for a while here.
	And also, so if you have questions and you are able to do so, please put the questions into the chat for Tony and for myself.
	And then at the same time, Tony, what I'd like to do is find out, you're showing us pictures that are very recent for you, and I'm wondering where's your head at now, where you think you're going with things in your life, And has this become the dominant theme of your life at this time?
	Or do you have another job?
	Are you able to keep yourself going?
	Okay, these are good questions, Kerry.
	They're good questions and they're essential questions as well and that's always a good thing.
	I would suggest that I'm a broken man with it all.
	There are some people who stand on four legs.
	I'm currently balancing on two.
	My life is one great big juggling act.
	If it wasn't for the friends that I've got around me, I don't know where I'd be.
	I am involved in other things, but I enjoy, I'm lucky, I'm very lucky indeed here in the UK just to earn a very small micro living from the talks that I do, and I'm very lucky to have that platform, but the talks are evolving all the time, and I'm broken.
	I wouldn't say I'm beyond repair, but I am broken, Gary, because of it all, and that's a tragedy.
	It's a tragedy.
	I'm just broken, frankly, with it.
	Traumatised and broken.
	Okay, let me ask you something.
	Do you have children?
	No.
	Okay, so do you have family members or other people close to you who are also experiencing some of these things?
	Yes, there are friends that are experiencing this.
	My mother did experience these things in the past, but currently at the moment, Kerry, there's only me, myself and I really involved with it all.
	And I find that for some reason, though, I'm staying on top of it, but it's one big juggling act.
	It really is.
	What is interesting, Kerry, is the fact that these people over the years were stalking me for a child.
	They wanted a child from me for reasons I do not understand.
	Don't get it.
	Genuinely don't get it.
	Okay.
	Just hold on one second there.
	Well, I guess you can hear me.
	So, wondering why you think that?
	In other words, what made it clear that they wanted a child from you?
	And who are you talking when you say they?
	Okay.
	We're talking about the people who targeted me.
	There is an ulterior esoteric motive behind what went on.
	And they were targeting me for some reason because of the want of a child.
	I do not know, Kerry, why they wanted a child.
	I'm not married.
	I'm currently a single man.
	I've been single for a very long time, but they wanted a child.
	The only thing I could think of is that a child of mine would be able to see in higher spatial dimensions.
	We'll be able to see in a continuum way, in a fourth dimensional way perhaps.
	We'll be very unique and that's probably why they wanted it.
	I would hazard a guess.
	It will be able to see into the environment that I can see.
	No child of mine will be subjected to that environment at all.
	I will not have it and will not stand for it.
	There's a distinct possibility that one of these groups already has one of my children.
	That's a possibility because I'm probably a unique old bird as we say.
	But still, Kerry, the why eludes me and it would be wrong to say to your listeners that I knew why because I don't.
	I don't know why this is happening.
	Well, I mean, I understand that you feel that you don't know why but in a more general sense, esoterically speaking, certainly you are having a spiritual awakening within your awareness and this is all part of the encounter.
	In other words, as a being becomes...
	More sensitive, more awakened.
	You tap into other worlds.
	You tap into other beings.
	You are communicating.
	We are all doing this.
	It's just that many people are not aware of it.
	They simply don't know they're doing it.
	And you, on the other case, are aware of it.
	You're actually sort of the other extreme, the hyper-aware.
	And therefore, you kind of talk about it probably constantly in your everyday life.
	I don't know.
	I'm just guessing.
	And it has dominated your life consequently.
	So this is a path to spiritual awareness, to enlightenment.
	This is all fair and good and all's fair in love and war, as they say, in this kind of way.
	The other thing that seems to be happening is that we have various beings, in case you don't know it, including...
	A large portion of the higher level of humanity, I don't mean they're high on a spiritual basis, but I mean they're in the higher realms of power, who are looking to create a humanity 3.0,
	as we call them, another step up from humanity who will bring in these, beyond the indigo children, but certainly the indigos are part of it, and so getting children from What are experiencers who have a genetic line, and you will be part of a genetic line, and therefore you're targeted in this way.
	As you say, your mother had contact.
	It usually does go in families.
	So they are motivated.
	In fact, certain of these may have already taken, I guess, sperm from you, and then you may already have children.
	You may not be aware of it, but that's often the case.
	It is often the case, Kerry, and that has happened.
	And in fact, we've also got parallel universes as well, which is something that we have to win as a contactee.
	We do have them.
	They are there, parallel futures, parallel timelines.
	It all happens for the real deal contactee experience, and they end up having, are overwhelmed.
	They're overwhelmed with sensory input from these other realms and other realms and they just cannot seem to shut it down.
	If it wasn't for the grace in God, I think I wouldn't be here to tell the tale.
	But I am here to tell the tale and it must benefit somebody somewhere a great deal, I do feel.
	It's hard work, Kerry, and it's not easy at all.
	But yes, I am probably a rare genetic bloodline, definitely so.
	Very rare indeed, I would think.
	Which is probably why we're getting the level of targeting that I've been getting, definitely so.
	Okay, well along those lines, why do you think you're a rare genetic?
	Is there something in your family history that makes you say that?
	Possibly so.
	There's a possibility that we are linked somehow along the way to a rare royal genetic bloodline, but I'm not too sure on it.
	But there could be a link to that because of the level of targeting that I'm getting.
	We may have an ancestral link down the line, somewhere down the line to something very ancient and kingly that I'm not aware of, which is also another key as to why I was getting the level of stuff coming at me that I was getting.
	Because it's like holding a deck of cards.
	You have no idea of the deck of cards that you're holding, but everybody else does, which is not a very nice situation to be in, Kerry.
	Not a nice situation.
	Okay, okay, fair enough.
	So we actually have one question here, and someone's asking you, what happened at 4 a.m.?
	What happened at 4am?
	There was a presence over the house again of the Nordic type blue people who just came in over the house but didn't tell me why they were present but it was possibly to do with my own protection.
	It was to do possibly with a protection issue.
	Because I'm exposed to a continuum, a space-time continuum, which they are familiar with.
	And it was possibly to do with activities there.
	But I'm not sure, Kerry.
	And I'm not going to say that I know when I don't know, because it's inaccurate for your listeners.
	But they were there.
	It was them.
	And there was no doubt in my mind that it was them.
	And they just appeared.
	Just to check in.
	They'll do this with me once a week.
	They will check in with me to see if I'm alright and go on their merry way again.
	For reasons, I'm not sure.
	When you say they checked in, how did they check in?
	Did you see a craft?
	It's very interesting, Kelly.
	It's quite comical what they do because they're a comical lot.
	It's not all heavy going.
	It can be quite hilarious with them.
	But what they will do is they have characteristic iconography, which is very Mayan in a way.
	And when I sleep, The proof and the pudding will be when they come over the house, and I literally film them, but that's another story.
	But when I sleep, we will see my whole awareness move and shift as if I'm in an aircraft of some description, which isn't an aircraft, but it has a very gentle and graceful hum to it.
	And you'll hear the hover, and then you'll hear them come in.
	You'll see the blonde, distinctive, blue-eyed features of them, and you'll hear one of them go, Like that, as if to say, just be quiet a moment.
	We don't want people knowing that we're just here, but we are.
	They will do what they need to do, whatever that is, and then they will be on their way again.
	Sometimes they will play music, the most appropriate themed music to what I'm feeling at the time, because they, as bizarre as it seems, have studied the affairs of Earth.
	So they know music, which has been quite hilarious.
	But they're very respectful people.
	They're very respectful when their craft come over.
	They seem to be very respectful that they're in my country's airspace.
	They're very respectful of what is going on.
	Very respectful of affairs that are happening in our world.
	And our strangers in a stranger's land, Kerry, which is bizarre.
	But I did have an incident where they conveyed the meaning to me that they were strangers in a stranger's land when they flew over, which is interesting.
	And so the liaison continues and continues to its whatever endgame it's going to be, Kerry.
	Okay, okay, very good.
	So, can you tell me, you're certainly aware of these goings-on.
	Would you also say that your psychic ability or telepathic ability has increased over time?
	Yes, it has, in ways that are certainly very powerful or have been very powerful, and that's not necessarily been a good thing.
	It's not that I don't want to talk about it, but I just find it's just not been a good thing.
	I don't get it.
	I know that there's something connected with that going on with my experiences.
	And yes, the psychic functioning is generated, Kerry, into more of a cosmic awareness, an evolutionary cosmic awareness.
	The Egyptians, you know, with this, when they were doing that, the cosmic kind of awareness, is what we've all forgotten.
	Although, looking at you, you have the look of a woman who is aware of this, which you are.
	And, you know, it's true that we've forgotten that cosmic ordering of who we are, and some of us have leaped to genetic evolutionary fence and become aware of it, In a world that is tearing itself apart, I do believe.
	So there is a spiritual component to these experiences, a very deep one as well, as I'm sure you will appreciate.
	As you do appreciate, you know this, don't you?
	Yeah, of course you do.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, well, that's great to hear you talk like that and to hear what's happening with you.
	So it's been a long saga, obviously, for you, Tony, and you've been through a lot.
	But I do think that you have benefited.
	And I think maybe even more so in the future.
	So So I'd like to have another interview with you in the future.
	Thank you, Kerry.
	This is great, Kerry.
	And thank you for your line of questioning, which has been very good.
	To get more out of me rather than to oppress me or make fun of me, your line of questioning has probably aided the listeners and certainly aided me because our contactees like ourselves are traumatized, we're exhausted, and sometimes we just...
	Sometimes when we're trying to explain something, we can't get it out correctly.
	So I think your style of interview has been a great aid to me in just trying to get the deeper elements of my story within the public domain.
	So I thank you very much for that, and thank you to your listeners as well.
	Excellent.
	Well, thank you so much.
	Now, I want to ask you just a few last questions, and again, if we have some live listeners, anyone wants to put a question in the chat and is able to do so, I think it's on Google+.
	Then please do.
	Now, what about artificial intelligence?
	You did talk about communicating with a craft very recently, the communication with basically a craft that is conscious, as you called it.
	Are you aware of the artificial intelligence here on the planet, the various aspects of it, the black goo, the other stories, and so on?
	Are you interacting with it?
	Are you aware of it?
	I'm aware that there is a greater cosmic intelligence, Kerry, out there, but that doesn't answer your question.
	I'm not as aware as I should be of that situation.
	I need to fully read up on it.
	It was a staggering experience because in general the intelligence of the quest was querying the greater universe around it with some fascination.
	And that's all I can describe it of.
	It's as if this culture that I'm dealing with has grasped the role of artificial intelligence that is more advanced than we would.
	At the moment, the world of artificial intelligence seems to have a corporate element to it that is a bit sinister.
	There's some sinister goings on with it.
	I don't like it.
	And I think you will find that the guys in the military who have liaison with the UFOs, the real McCoy guys, will probably tell you that it will be with these, if they're communicating with them, never military information is given with them.
	It's always medical information.
	They will never give us the military.
	And I don't want to know.
	I wouldn't want to know about the military capabilities of such a craft and what it could do.
	But all I can say, Kerry, is that it was a fantastic It was a fascinating and incredible moment and I knew the craft was over the house.
	It was like something out of Star Trek.
	It was cloaked and it spoke, literally spoke to me and it was wild, absolutely wild and I was privileged.
	As I say, this craft was intelligent, it was aware, it was querying the greater world around it.
	Okay, well let me just say here that Mark Richards, Captain Mark Richards, and I don't know if you've ever seen my interviews that they're actually interview recalls because he's in prison, but He talked about a spacecraft called Minerva, that he was actually one of the few people in the entire secret space program who could communicate with this craft and fly her.
	It would seem that you are such a person who may be growing into that same capability.
	You've grasped it.
	Yeah, that's exactly what...
	And it was at the instigation of probably this man who I keep saying that he's just having a little tinker with it just to see what will happen.
	I can only describe it as just...
	It's just fascinating.
	I'm in October speaking in Watford where Joanne Richards is speaking.
	So that will be absolutely incredible to undergo that story.
	It really will.
	It's coming up to 11.15 UK time here.
	I'm staying in a family's house who are up early in the morning.
	They have to be up at 4 and they're just wondering if they can maybe get things moving at this end.
	Yes.
	They're not into this, by the way, in any way, but their support is tremendous.
	They're great friends.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Thank you so much, Tony Topping.
	I really appreciate your time.
	I'm very happy we were able to get together today to talk about these things.
	Let's do it again.
	It's been a blast.
	I know that you're going to benefit from meeting Joanne Richards.
	She's a delight.
	And she is speaking at High Elms Manor where I spoke when I was in the UK about a month ago, a little over a month ago.
	And it's a wonderful venue, very nice, very great kind of quiet place to have a meeting and does attract quite a large crowd as it happens.
	I'm hoping the two of you will, you know, Joanna and yourself when you speak will have a good crowd over there.
	Wonderful people.
	You may even see Miles Johnston if he gets interested and comes on down.
	He can be a great asset to have in the audience and at any rate, it's great to talk to you and I think that you're going down a very interesting road.
	I'm happy that you shared your experiences with us.
	And we will revisit this in the future, okay?
	Yeah, we will carry something.
	I'll keep you posted, keep your emails, keep the pictures coming, and so on and so forth.
	You can share them with your listeners and so on, and we'll do it again, definitely.
	Thank you very much.
	It's been worth the 15-year wait.
	Okay, all right.
	Take care.
	Thank you.

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