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July 30, 2015 - Project Camelot
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DANE WIGINGTON - GEOENGINEERING, CHEMTRAILS, EARTH CHANGES
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Okay, hi everyone.
This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm here with Dane Wigington.
We're about to go live, and so I just want to say hi to everyone.
We're going to see how this goes.
And you're going to mainly see him, so I hope it's going to work.
Okay.
If you can hear me, Kerry, I don't have any...
Okay.
Thank you.
Now can you hear me?
You're good now.
All right, finally.
Okay, so say hello to everyone, Dane.
Hello, everyone.
And sorry for the delay here.
We are still working out the kinks with every new guest.
You know, we have logistical issues, and it's a real challenge.
You did a great job of walking us through this park here, and thank you.
Okay.
We are having a little issue with your audio coming through clearly.
Can you say a few more words?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
Okay.
You're fine.
So let's go ahead.
First of all...
Why don't you introduce yourself because, quite frankly, I've been dealing with these technical issues for the last half hour or hour and haven't been able to get your bio in front of me.
And you are doing a live event very shortly in Northern California about geoengineering.
And so welcome.
I'm sorry that I'm not able to give you a proper introduction.
If you could introduce yourself.
Quite right, Gary.
You've helped me get through the adjustments on the technical end of this side, so thank you.
My name is Dane Wiginton.
I'm the lead researcher for the website geoengineeringwatch.org.
The purpose of our site is to share very, very critical data on the ongoing climate engineering, solar radiation management programs happening around the globe.
It's the last thing in the world I wanted to do for the last now 12 plus years.
Quite simply, the magnitude of this particular issue.
This is not just another issue.
This is the issue on which all others depend.
If we don't deal with this, nothing else matters.
So my background being in solar energy, I work for Bechtel Power Corporation, and I live in an off-grid home in Northern California in the wilderness on the east side of Lake Shasta.
My home was to cover the world's largest renewable energy magazine when I moved here and expected to find clean air.
I started to lose massive amounts of my solar power uptake from whatever these aircraft were emitting.
Clearly, something profound was going on in the skies.
I researched the issue, found mountains of data on geoengineering, began to lab test the rain.
A state-certified lab did not want to find the materials listed in geoengineering patents, heavy metals, but I did.
And those quantities went through the roof, Kerry.
Subsequent rain was worse and worse, and quite simply, given the amount of data available on the subject, the view we had of the aircraft above blocking the storm, All the lab testing, this issue was real.
It is real.
And it's creating cataclysm on planet Earth right now.
And this is an issue we have to face.
That's why I'm here.
Okay.
So, can you explain why you decided to do this live broadcast?
You know, it's actually an in-person conference in Northern California at this time.
Because the wall's closing in so quickly.
That we need to have a public event with all those that are concerned enough to come, which tend to be the people that can move the ball forward in the battle.
We need a conference with the latest data, with experts there, which we will have.
Former government scientists from Fish and Game, Forest Service, USDA. We have former defense industry people.
We have one of the attorneys there from the legal team that's working with us to try to file suit.
A lot of experts and a presentation that I will do with the latest data to make this point clear to all those in attendance and those who will watch the film of this event.
Again, if we don't deal with climate engineering, Very soon, nothing else will matter.
Climate engineering is completely derailing and disabling the Earth's wall support systems.
Every breath we take is toxic.
Every inch of the planet is now contaminated with these toxic heavy metals.
It's destroying the ozone layer, just killing plankton.
The downstream effects are absolutely cataclysmic.
The military-industrial complex is too heavily invested to turn back.
The only thing that can stop them is the public that wakes up fully to this issue.
And if we don't stop these programs, we have a lot of challenges to face at best, but climate engineering is disabling what's left of the planet's life support systems.
If we don't stop climate engineering, nothing else will matter.
The purpose of this event is to make that point clear.
Everybody is needed in this battle.
Okay, and when you're talking about climate engineering, you're talking about, I'm assuming, and you can correct me from your point of view if you like, but weather wars and also chemtrails.
Is that correct?
Chemtrails is the layman's term, yes, for climate engineering.
The intentional dispersion of toxic heavy metals into the atmosphere by jet aircraft.
Any form of climate engineering should be considered weather warfare.
The two are inseparable.
The main aspects of the geoengineering programs are the saturation of the atmosphere with electrically conductive, toxic, light-scattering metal particulates, and radio frequency transmissions like that which the HAARP facility puts out in Alaska.
And that's only one facility of dozens of large ground-based facilities, an unknown number of sea-based SPX radar, sea-based X-band radar, There's transmissions going on all over the globe.
That's part of how they manipulate these particulates in the atmosphere, and all of the above is hugely harmful to the human body, to the ecosystem, to the web of life as a whole.
Right.
Okay.
So with your background, you feel that you're qualified to analyze what comes down from the sky or whatever.
Are you doing some of that?
Are you going to labs to find out that information?
What is your procedure?
Yes, I'm not qualified to test the material itself.
We do need a lab for that, and we do use a lab, the state-certified lab.
We've done about 70-plus lab tests there, and I don't know anybody who does their own testing, but we have lab facilities that are designed for that purpose, so we rely on that testing.
As far as analyzing the amount of data coming down, yes, I'm qualified, and so would anybody else who is willing to do some basic research to understand the Certain cause and effects of this when we have rain that is laden with aluminum, changing the rain pH, for example.
We're seeing rain pH values that are 10 to 12, sometimes 14 times higher than it should be toward alkaline.
And now the soils are so loaded with this material, soil pHs have changed as well.
So our society has been trained to think that only a particular specialist in a particular area is qualified to make a particular statement.
And that's absolutely nonsense.
Anybody who has done enough research on a subject is capable of talking about it.
And although my background, again, is in renewable energy, that's where my college education was, this is an analytical situation that countless individuals are capable of participating in if they simply took the time to do the research.
Okay, so when you bring this to the public, what is your objective?
What are you hoping people will do?
I'm hoping they will prioritize.
that they will accept the fact that of all the challenges we face, if we can't inhale air without sucking in toxic heavy metal materials with known neurological effects that affects so many forms if we can't inhale air without sucking in toxic heavy metal materials with known neurological effects that affects so many forms of human disease that
If we don't deal with that, and this is over and above the fact that it's again destroying the ozone layer, disrupting the hydrological cycle completely, causing massive drought and deluge all around the globe, shredding the ozone layer, tearing apart the web of life.
Aside from all that, it's rendering toxic every single breath we take, and we see the hallmarks of this contamination across the board.
Every other commercial, Kerry, I'm sure you know this, you watch TV sometimes, I would imagine that, Every other commercial is an asthma, allergy commercial, even Alzheimer's commercials now are a regular feature on the TV. Every ailment that we would associate with this heavy metal exposure is there, and we know human test subjects are laden with this material because we're testing them.
It can't be in the air and not be in us.
And it's not just us, Carrie.
We now have studies from bees, the colony collapse disorder, which I'm sure you've heard of that.
We've been communicating to a lot of the bee scientists in recent years, trying to get them to look at this issue.
They refuse to because they are...
There's establishment acknowledgement of this contamination from an establishment publication, which we'll never see, that they can't accept this as reality, that this aluminum contamination is there, heavy metal, aluminum being primary.
We now have a peer-reviewed study that the bees are so packed with aluminum, in fact, the quantity showing up in bees is 70 times higher than what it would take to cause Alzheimer's or dementia in a human being.
So from the autism statistics, which have gone up 10,000% in 40 years, still climbing, to Alzheimer's, dementia, the bees, whales.
We have a study of 1,000 whales from around the globe, also packed with the report stated jaw-dropping levels of aluminum.
I mean, this is the biggest elephant in the world.
Okay.
Can you hear me?
I hear you're good.
Okay.
There's a bit of breakup.
Your picture at my end is breaking up a bit, but it looks okay online.
I think there's sort of a time lab going on.
But when you announce this to the public, when you're dealing with these questions, are you planning to, for example, Bring legislation, or are you just trying to bring awareness at this time?
Are you contacting congresspeople, etc.?
I'm doing everything that one person can do, given the amount of time in a day.
And we need others to help.
And although I work directly with this team of attorneys, some from the U.S. and some from Canada, they are involved now, of their own accord, Because they know that their futures are at stake also.
And the only way we could have gotten to that point is to reach enough critical mass of awareness for those wheels to start turning on their own.
So I've done and will continue to do everything that I think one person can do, but so much of this battle isn't simply reaching critical mass of awareness.
Because if people won't stand and join this battle once they know that their immediate futures depend on exposing and stopping climate engineering, if that won't motivate them to get in the fight, we have no chance.
We have no chance.
So, and I'm betting that will motivate them once they truly are forced to face this issue.
And that time is near because the walls are closing in around us, Kerry, I've been I mean, from crop collapse, marine ecosystem collapse, ozone damage around the globe is off the scale.
It's not being reported.
So we don't have a lot of time.
There's not a lot of sand left in the hourglass, if you will.
If we can get this issue to the light of day, that's the best leap forward we can make.
Okay.
Are you also looking at Fukushima and the effects of Fukushima?
Absolutely.
Fukushima is a huge issue.
Fukushima may kill us all.
And when people ask, in regard to climate engineering, why would the power structure do this to themselves, toxify their own air?
Let's take Fukushima, for example.
Why, when we have Fukushima going on, would the power structure be building 30 more nuclear plants around the globe?
Obama recently approved $6.5 billion for two plants in Georgia.
So we're not dealing with sanity.
But even in regard to Fukushima, let's relate that back to geoengineering.
It appears possible, if not probable, that the same tools of weather warfare used in geoengineering may have had a part in the Fukushima disaster as well.
And what lends credence to this, when we have institutions like MIT, you know who MIT is, Kerry, I'm sure, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, we have institutions like that stating that there was extremely anomalous atmospheric heating Directly above the epicenter in the days prior to the quake.
Now, I'm not claiming to know what happened there, but when we have an institution with that kind of credibility reporting exactly what we would expect to see with an ionosphere heater, which is what HAARP is, and when we know that that kind of wattage, when it's blasted into the strata, can have seismic effects, perhaps Fukushima is connecting to the same weather warfare mechanisms that are used for climate engineering.
Now, aside from that, When we have particulates of radiation migrating across oceans, and the sprayed particulates from geoengineering is disrupting the rain cycle, the hydrological cycle, that can cause those particulates of radiation to more effectively reach the U.S. So again, these issues are tied directly together.
And back to the original basis point is this though, Kerry.
If we are not thinking clearly, because we're breathing in toxic heavy metals that affect our ability to think, It's not going to be very long before we won't be able to face Fukushima or anything else if we don't have clean air debris.
Okay, so what are the avenues that you're suggesting people follow?
As far as raising awareness, again, everyone can and should play a part in that aspect of this battle.
And you don't have to stand on a street corner with a sign.
You simply need to Learn a little bit about this issue and use the internet for one.
We have a geoengineeringwatch.org on the upper left corner.
We have two links.
One's called activist suggestions, one's called the flaming arrow link.
The premise of the flaming arrow link, it's already prepared with an introduction letter and the right informational links inside.
All a person has to do is find the right contact, whether it's an autism group, Alzheimer's group, Ag group, environmental group, the list is endless.
Find those groups, locate the contact, and send them that flaming arrow link.
And the point is, again, spot fire of awareness in that group.
And if credible data is mailed out to all these groups, a lot of those groups are going to at least have their eyes opened to this issue.
When they start to look around and start to connect the dots, now we have another, quote, spot fire of awareness.
So that we can more easily, more quickly reach critical mass.
So this is something everybody can participate in.
Flyers, which we have available for free download off geodringwatch.org.
You can print them locally.
That's a big key also because when people simply point at the sky and ramp chemtrails and Without any data to pass on, that's not typically very effective.
You need to have some idea of what this issue is.
Use the science terms.
That's extremely important.
The chemtrails term has no basis in the science world at all.
So use the science terms, pass on credible data, and help us get this issue to the light of day.
And once we do, there will be a shockwave around the globe because there's nobody on this planet that hasn't been horrifically harmed by these programs.
Okay, you were also talking about rising sea levels when I spoke to you before.
And I think I looked at that on your website as well.
Do you want to address that?
Again, right now what the power structure is doing, people ask about the why and why would they be engineering the climate.
And again, that should be a very easily accessible answer.
They've always wanted power and control.
And there's aspect to it, but now there's a lot of effort to hide what's going on, to hide the severity of what's unfortunate.
The world's top hundred habitations are at sea level.
And a lot of those habitations are not going to be habitable all that much longer, much longer.
Miami's pumping out every high tide.
Already and we now have the most recent data.
It's about three weeks old from the top scientists in the fields that sea level is rising in fact ten times faster than we've been told.
Obviously the power structure is going to try to hide this and The speed at which this is unfolding people need to understand this is a very nonlinear equation and people have been trained to believe that climate change is Can't take place in periods shorter than centuries or even millennia.
This is not true.
We're undergoing what should be categorized, Kerry, as a climate shift because there's a lot of unnatural factors in this equation.
And right now, the shift is happening at blinding speed.
Okay.
Did you say 10 times?
You said that the sea levels are rising at 10 times what they're publicizing.
Is that what you meant?
10 times faster than what has been formerly publicized.
Yes.
10 times faster than the former estimates.
Okay.
And that, you know, I hate to even raise this, but do you know why the sea levels are rising?
What is your, you know, assumption on that level?
It's not my assumption or my opinion.
It's what the data on the ground dictates.
And this is...
Let's forget about NASA and NOAA and all these agencies because...
People have great disdain for these agencies, and they should, because these agencies are not disclosing climate engineering.
They're lying about that issue, which is making the warming situation far worse, not better.
They're lying about a lot of things.
But we don't need their data to know that the cryosphere is melting, because we have film footage of it happening.
And I would encourage anybody to watch a film called Chasing Ice, for example.
No politics, no agenda, simply film footage that cannot be denied.
We don't have fires raging around the globe because the planet's getting cooler.
We don't have methane releasing all over the globe, frozen methane, formerly frozen, because the planet's getting cooler.
So although the East Coast has been kept cool for about two and a half years, completely geoengineered, and the new is...
The news has talked to us about the Boston snow over and over and over all winter long without mentioning, oh, by the way, the Sierra is 14,000 feet up, has no snow, and it's 90 degrees in California in January.
We know the cryosphere is melting.
It's melting at a horrific rate.
And people, Kerry, will talk about the expansion of sea ice in a few areas of Antarctica.
The only place in the cryosphere, the cryosphere is the ice that lives on the planet, is...
The only place there's any expansion is the sea ice in Antarctica.
Why is that happening?
Because there's so much freshwater running off the land from the melting land ice that it's desalinating the ocean.
So again, it's not about Al Gore.
Al Gore is part of the power structure.
He's played the part they wanted him to play to make everybody hate him so much that they simply stop looking at data and they come to a conclusion and they They won't believe anything else.
And this is a problem for us.
I hope we get over it.
Because Al Gore and carbon credits are both scams.
But we have real issues happening on the ground.
The planet's burning down everywhere.
I mean, there's fires everywhere.
We have eroding shorelines.
And climate engineering is making...
I want to make this point clear.
Climate engineering is making all of that worse, not better.
So it's not mitigating anything.
It's helping to fuel the fire occurring.
Okay, so I'm wondering if you saw the story about the climate scientists who were, it's been featured in English press just recently, three climate scientists that were killed.
Have you heard the story?
I've seen it.
And there's a Cambridge professor, Peter Wadham, who Who came forward and said early on about this situation that all three deaths were extremely questionable.
One person...
Well, actually, I forget what they actually died of, but one was struck by lightning, one was...
I guess hit by a car or something like that.
And the other one was...
Fell downstairs.
Fell down the stairs.
And they all died, I guess, and they were his colleagues.
So he made off-the-record comments saying that they were assassinated.
Are you aware of that?
I am, and they're not the only ones.
I mean, we have...
Another scientist on the Greenland Ice Study Group whose plane crashed very spectacularly, I believe, in January.
The list goes on and on, and this particular Greenland scientist was perhaps the type that might start to truly sound the alarm about how bad things are, and people like that seem to go away.
You remember Kerry, Matt Simmons?
I'm not sure you know who he is.
He was the world's foremost independent expert on deep sea Drilling, he went on CNN about the well leak in the Gulf of Mexico, the Macondo well.
He stated things they didn't want him to say, that the well was still leaking, the seafloor had heaved, they couldn't stop that leak, and he was dead the next night in his pool.
So all these people, though, were part of the system, and it seems that the establishment deals especially harshly with those people who have taken an oath to that system and then break that oath.
So some of us have never taken that oath, and Yes.
I think that that's absolutely the case with people that get hit.
They are part of the system and they turn against their masters, so to speak.
Yes.
So in terms of the scientists that died, what is interesting about that situation, at least this recent situation, is that the professor at Cambridge came out saying he believed they were assassinated.
And then very shortly after that, he must receive some kind of phone call or some kind of threatening phone call or email or whatever it happened to be.
I don't know.
But he reversed his position.
And he came out and said he never said that.
He basically said he thought for a very short time they were assassinated, but now he realizes that they definitely had natural deaths.
This smacks of somebody who is being pressured from the outside to change his story.
This kind of threatening situation is why?
I mean, in your estimation, I don't know if you looked into it deeply enough, but what was it that they were investigating that would make them be subject to being assassinated?
They know how grave our situation is.
They all know.
I've spoken to a NOAA scientist face-to-face Who said this to me, and I'm quoting verbatim.
We all know these programs are going on.
We're alarmed as hell.
We don't know what to do about it.
And let's look at another quote-unquote accident.
John Wheeler, Bush aide, seen outside the Pentagon.
This is three years ago, four years ago.
It was threatening to blow the whistle on the climate engineering programs.
He was found in a landfill two days later.
Maybe another coincidence.
You know, this is, again, people need to wake up.
The power structure will do anything and everything to hide this particular issue because everyone on the planet has been harmed, irreparably harmed.
This heavy metal that we all have inside us now can't just be removed.
It's done permanent, irreparable damage to us, to the planet.
The liability issue is huge.
I've spoken to One of the architects of these programs, a single phone call arranged by a congressional candidate that made this connection, and I recorded two email conversations with this person from Oak Ridge Labs, and this is what he stated in regard to the government's attempts to hide these programs.
He said they will do everything to hide this because they know, and I'm quoting just about verbatim, he said, they know if the public finds out, they will seek out those responsible And hang them or shoot them in front of a firing squad.
Those are his words, not mine.
If this issue gets out, there will be a complete paradigm shift.
And I'm not saying our troubles are over by any means.
They've just begun.
But if there's one issue that could overturn the current juggernaut of insanity, it's this issue.
If we get it out.
Okay, so in terms of describing the playing field...
You've mentioned, well, the weather situation.
What we're calling weather wars slash geoengineering is a huge bucket, right?
It is.
So, what else is going on?
In other words, can you talk about, I don't know, other forms of poison that's going on on the planet that you've investigated?
On this particular issue, again, it precedes all other issues.
And although we have countless forms of contamination, absolutely countless forms, to our bodies, to the environment, nothing, nothing compares with climate engineering.
Let's look statistically at what Geoengineer David Keith stated on the record at an international geoengineering conference, which I confronted him.
This is on film and on the record, but His stated annual goal was to dump 20 million tons of aluminum nanoparticulates into the atmosphere annually.
That number might not mean much to a lot of people, but if you break it down, it starts to be pretty scary.
That's about 1,000 tankers, military aircraft tankers, a day, 24-7, 365 days a year, dumping about 60 to 70 tons apiece.
Aluminum nanoparticulates, why do they use such small particles?
Because it has a greater volumetric forcing, which means the smaller the particle, the greater the surface area for a given mass of material.
So there's more light reflecting surface, and that's what they're after.
They don't care how toxic it is, but the smaller the particle is, the more harmful it is to the human body.
Nanoparticulates are unimaginably small.
You can fit 30,000 to 50,000 across a human hair depending on the width of that hair.
So these particles are infiltrating the entire web of life, contaminating virtually everything.
And you have also carry what's called synergistic toxicity.
So these metals are all toxic by themselves.
The metals we know are in these programs.
Aluminum, barium, strontium, lead, copper.
You start to mix these metals together and they're exponentially worse.
We're swimming in a toxic soup.
Now it's at radio frequencies.
We're all like walking antennas.
That has an even more profound effect on us.
So this is a fight for life, Carrie.
Period.
Okay.
Do you know why they're putting the nano into the atmosphere?
Do you have a theory about that?
Well, I don't have a theory.
Again, I have what they're stating on the record.
And there's many aspects.
There's weather warfare, which involves weather modification, creation of drought, deluge.
But there's also a primary stated goal of solar radiation management to block the sun.
And so again, back to the volumetric forcing of the smaller materials, which means the smaller the material, the more surface area, the more sun they block, and that's what they're after.
So we now have global dimming, a term that most aren't familiar with, which...
It's the amount of direct sunlight that's no longer reaching the surface of the planet as compared to five decades ago.
It's about 20 to 25 percent, depending on the study.
So 20 to 25 percent of the sun's direct rays no longer reach the surface of the planet as compared to five decades ago.
That's what they're doing, blocking the sun.
But that shreds the ozone layer.
It doesn't take a degree scientist to understand that if you are Pushing heat back up, you're also trapping it below.
And we know now, from other studies, that these aircraft trails are adding to global warming, not reducing it.
We know geoengineering from a peer reviewed study can't work.
It can't work.
So why are they doing it?
It all comes down ultimately to power and control, period.
There's no benevolence in these programs whatsoever.
Okay, power and control for what purpose?
What has always been the purpose?
To control populations.
He who controls the food supply controls the population.
Basically, they're making people sick.
I have a whole theory about this that has to do with artificial intelligence and creating what the secret space program would like to create, which one of my whistleblowers actually terms passive robotic supermen.
Well, you know, I've seen certain studies on that, and I'm not able to corroborate any of that data.
I don't know anybody that can.
I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but When I have a very straightforward cause and effect, and again, what you're describing, I don't doubt there's a lot of other experiments going on, there's more layers to this onion than we could ever know.
And about making people sick, that's also a method of power and control.
Why would they put fluoride in our water?
Now we have fluoride mixing with aluminum, which allows the aluminum to penetrate through the blood-brain barrier much more easily.
None of this is an accident.
So a population that is sick, that is mentally docile because of all these metals and their effects, doesn't have enough water, doesn't have enough food, that's a population that you can control.
And that's exactly what they're after.
Why would we doubt that?
Some of the former presidential security advisors like Brzezinski stating on the record that with modern military techniques, it's easier to kill a million people than it is to control them.
This is his quote.
So again, California, let's take that as an example.
We know this drought is directly related to climate engineering, and people at the Capitol in California know.
I met with a lieutenant governor in his office and his top aide almost two years ago and presented data that they couldn't refute, that they didn't refute.
They know this is happening.
They're simply afraid to speak out.
I had a congressional aide in the Capitol about 90 days ago.
I go to the Capitol a lot.
Tell me, finally...
Same as the NOAA scientists.
We all know this is happening.
We don't know what to do.
So everybody's pretending to look the other way or pretending not to know this is going on while the whole ship is going down.
And we need to break that paradigm.
And I would argue if we simply reach critical mass, we'll have academicians, politicians, agency people coming from every corner if they have enough cover to do so.
Okay.
When you're doing your event in Northern California, what day is that?
Do you want to give the details?
August 14th in Redding, California.
And there is information on the homepage of geoengineeringwatch.org.
It is a free event to the public.
There will be free informational materials handed out, including commercial DVDs and This is, again, the whole point of geoengineeringwatch.org, the whole purpose is to simply sound the alarm.
We don't sell anything.
We just need people to attend.
People need to get off the bench, those that are close enough to go, and be there.
And again, with an event like this covered by mainstream media, and they promised us coverage, that's what it takes to get this issue to the light of day, where it can no longer be ignored.
Okay, are you having speakers besides yourself or is this just yourself?
Oh no, as I mentioned, actually John B. Wells is coming to MC the event.
Okay.
Many know who he is from Caravan to Midnight.
Government scientist, former US Forest Service scientist, former California Department of Fish and Game scientist, former USDA scientist, former military meteorologist, former defense industry person, Very prominent Northern California neurologist speaking out about this issue.
So there's a lot of people there.
A former military person is going to speak out as well from the Navy.
So yes, we have a panel of experts that will be there as well.
In addition to an updated presentation, which I will be giving to, as I said before, make this point clear.
We either deal with this issue or it's game over.
That's what the data states.
Okay.
Okay, I have a few questions.
The water, the redirecting of water, are you familiar with what's going on in California with redirecting the water?
I am.
Now, if you're referring to those who claim there's...
You might give me a few more details, because some...
...location...
The drought is not four years old, it's eight years old.
And where I live here, and I take rain records, we're 250 inches of rain short.
250.
So again, I'm not saying they're allocating the water correctly, but anybody who says we're not in an absolutely unimaginable drought is not correct.
Okay.
Well, There is evidence that I've seen, because I live in California and also driving up the Highway 5, you can actually see evidence of water being redirected.
So there was snowfall, there was water that came down into the rivers, and it appears to have been, it's being redirected in part into what appear to be brand new vineyards along Highway 5.
Which is not a wine-growing country.
Strange.
There may be some water being redirected, but any notion that we are not radically starved of precipitation, the data does not support that.
The Pacific Northwest, or Pacific West, you may say that, or even the Southwest, but I understand that the East actually has had record rainfall.
Have you heard that?
Well, they have.
There's no question.
This is, again, it's not a this or that scenario.
And as I said earlier in the show, climate engineering causes drought and deluge.
So moisture that is robbed from one area, when you saturate the atmosphere with too many particulates, as they're doing over the West right now, if there's too many particles, there's too many condensation nuclei.
So the rain can't combine and fall.
They can simply scatter it and migrate it.
But it's going to come down somewhere.
And they have the ability to dictate where it comes down, largely.
It's not an exact science, but with the radio frequencies, they can cause the particulates to scatter, repel each other, and thus diminish the rain, or to attract each other, coagulate, big enough condensation nuclei, the rain comes down.
So both are forms of weather warfare, drought and deluge.
So absolutely.
Was there a record snow in Boston this year?
Absolutely.
Was it natural?
Absolutely not.
So when we look at an atmosphere, Kerry, With the relative humidity going down on a planet that's getting warmer, that's impossible with the laws of physics.
Without a factor that's not being acknowledged, and that factor is climate engineering and an atmosphere filled with light deflecting, evaporation reducing particulates.
So yes, there is drought and there is deluge, but both are directly connected to climate engineering.
Okay.
So...
In terms of anything else that you can talk about that people will be curious about, I don't know, you know, have you followed the chemtrails in terms of what the planes, which planes, where the planes are coming from?
Have you got testimony, any testimonies, even at your event, from pilots that can testify about that?
Well, the only information we have from somebody that was directly involved in Air Force personnel with the maintenance of the mechanisms themselves that do the spray dispersions on the aircraft, it's a cat-and-mouse communication to another Air Force member because the former Air Force personnel that was involved with the programs has signed a non-disclosure agreement with our government that contains a provision for lethal enforcement.
You talk, you die.
So he's not about to start singing like a canary directly to anybody.
So that's why we don't see pilots talking out about this, especially any that might be involved.
I would argue many of the pilots don't know what they're involved with in the case of commercial airplanes because the aircraft are being used, but not the personnel that fly them.
These are automated systems.
I've spoken to a KC-135 pilot directly, had no idea what he was doing up there, And after asking questions, he apparently got medicated and put line at desk.
So we're not going to see a direct whistle, I don't think.
Okay.
Yeah, because that is a problem.
I mean, we have had pilots coming forward, one in Europe in particular that I remember.
And there have been a few other ones that have spoken out.
Pilots have spoken out.
And if you know one I don't, I would like to know.
But we have three pilots here.
Those are three of the main ones.
We had two former commercial, one military that spoke out in this regard that that was absolutely not condensation we see coming out of these aircraft.
But as far as anybody actually, a pilot actually involved with these programs, it's spoken in a manner where that pilot was identified.
I have not seen that.
Okay.
Well, if anyone does see this video and is a pilot and decides to have a sort of a crisis of conscience and wants to come forward, would you allow them to speak at your conference?
Certainly, I would.
We need a lot of security, but obviously I would welcome that.
Well, I mean, when you have a public event, if you allow for the unexpected, it is possible that a concerned citizen could have a change of heart, because there are a lot of people in the aerospace community that may know quite a bit about what's going on, certainly in California, and you're going to be in Northern California, so maybe Oregon, Washington, people in those areas.
Could come down to your event and make a public statement if they wish to.
Your point is very interesting.
If such a person shows up, they could have the mic at any point in time.
We would certainly welcome that.
We just talk to them a little behind the scenes so that we know that they are who they are.
But absolutely, we would embrace that.
And I think it's, again, the closer we reach to critical mass, the closer we get to that, the more likely something like that is to happen.
Because also, all the scientists in academia have invested in this lie.
They're all so invested in this lie that now, in order for them to face this, they have to admit that they were hiding this the whole time.
So they just keep doubling down on the lie.
But right now, again, we're all ankle deep in water on the deck of the Titanic.
People have no idea how severe our situation is, how fast the planet is dying, how quickly species are dying off.
Mathematically, right now, with no change of direction, Kerry, we're on a very, very short time horizon, all of us.
Species extinction rate, again, off the scale.
We're approaching 300 species a day, plant, animal, and insect going extinct.
So the bottom line is, at this point, we don't have a lot of time, and we need everybody to join this battle.
The work cover we can provide, the type of person you describe may come out.
Yes.
Okay.
So in terms of maybe, you know, because we probably should...
Draw this to a close.
I don't want to keep you too long.
I'd love to take some questions from the chat, but I don't know if I can actually figure out the logistics to do that.
I do have someone standing by to help me, so we can maybe look and see if we can engineer that, so to speak, in just a moment.
But in terms of...
You say we have a short time.
Do you want to describe why you say that?
Can you outline...
How short a time?
What specifically you're referring to?
I can to some degree.
Again, in the equations like this, if you have a car going 100 miles an hour, 10 feet from impact into a concrete wall, you can't say where all the pieces are going to go, but you can say that it's going to hit.
It's going to be very, very brutal.
So when we have...
Global ocean-pelagic fish population is down 95%.
Ocean is acidifying rapidly.
Marine die-off is off the scale.
We're not going to be eating fish much longer.
The fish we eat now are either contaminated with oil or Fukushima radiation, but they're all dying.
Freshwater fish are dying also.
They just shut down the streams in Oregon because the fish are dying because the water is so hot.
UV radiation is helping to heat that water.
We now know 80% of the salmon in the Columbia River Basin are dead or dying.
Our situation is imploding.
And again, on the crop loss right now, we see from these weather cataclysms that are happening.
By the way, you have disaster capitalists making money off those cataclysms, which we didn't talk about, but just one footnote.
Derivative trading on weather disasters run by those who actually make the disasters.
Nature has provided 75% of global GDP for free.
No more.
No longer.
So we're living in a delusion, and that delusion is disintegrating by the day.
Climate engineering is the greatest single thing affecting that, but by no means the only one.
Cutting down forests, putting 100 million tons of CO2 in the atmosphere a day, paving the planet, those are all problems.
Climate engineering is an even bigger problem.
So right now it's a simple equation for Mathematical equation, Kerry, given the imploding biosphere, the planet cannot sustain the population, period.
That's a mathematical fact.
Okay, so are you familiar with, let's see, Matt Stein?
No.
Okay, Richard Allen Miller?
I know him, yes.
Okay.
Because the two of them are actually going around speaking about subjects such as this and also impending shutdown of the grid, etc.
And I just wondered if...
I know you're raising the alarm.
It seems you're raising the alarm so that we don't have a situation that will come to critical mass, in essence.
Is that your thinking?
Yes.
Because at this point, on the one hand, you're saying we've got a train headed into a wall going a certain miles per hour, and it's going to hit.
Therefore, it's unavoidable.
Therefore, certain preparations have to be made to protect oneself, one's family, and so on and so forth.
Are you going down that road as well?
I am.
And this is where the equation is not cut and dried.
We need to get away from the thinking that if we just do A, B, and C, everything will go back to the way it was because that's not going to happen.
And for a lot of people, if they don't have such a guarantee or you can't tell them that, you know, buy a solar panel and get a Prius and everything will be fine.
If you can't tell them that, they don't want to do anything.
And we need to get away from that type of philosophy.
We need to adopt the philosophy that we owe our children.
We owe our children everything we can do to fight for their future, no matter how dark the horizon.
It's not an option, if you will.
It's an obligation to do this.
So although we are past the point of no return, we're through the guardrail, we're going to the bottom of the canyon, period.
But that doesn't mean the planet...
We'll not sustain any life if we take certain steps, if we're able to change course to a certain degree.
And fighting for that, fighting for what's left of the planet's life support systems is our obligation to our children.
Whether we have them or not is irrelevant.
It's our obligation to the children of the world, period.
So the notion that we're going to just put things back into the paradigm we had, it's not going to happen.
But we could still salvage the planet's ability to sustain life If everyone pulled together and this first most important goal, exposing and stopping climate engineering, and I would argue if we expose this issue, the paradigm shift will be total.
People will know that they've been lied to.
I mean, lied to to a degree that can barely be comprehended, Kerry, from agencies, officials, scientists.
They would know that this lie is so immense that...
Their lives have been irreparably damaged from it, irreparably damaged.
And if we can simply reach that point, again, we'll have great challenges to face, but this is the greatest of all that we must deal with.
Okay, so do you want to give your website out and, you know, for everyone to come and visit it?
I see that you've got a ton of material really accessible on your site.
Do you want to talk a little bit about the efforts that you've been, you know, involved with, things that they can do once they get to your site, etc.?
Yes.
We have categories on the site so you can find data and particular subject matter.
Again, no advertisement to cloud the site's function.
And we have links on the site to help you sound the alarm.
With others around you, you can download flyers for free.
So our site is designed to be a tool to help sound the alarm on this issue.
Geoengineeringwatch.org, again, is our website.
We will continue to put out data every day.
Data is unfolding extremely quickly right now, and I want to stress that to people.
This is a very non-linear equation.
And just in a nutshell, Kerry, the whole condensation trail Subject is the greatest lie ever perpetrated on the population of the planet.
This is not condensation.
In almost all cases, not.
And we have tutorials there of, for example, the high-bypass turbofan jet engine, which is all commercial aircraft and all military tankers, by design, almost incapable of producing a condensation trail, except under the most extreme circumstances.
So even the short, bright trails...
Still spray.
So look at the film footage of the tankers we have spraying in altitude.
There's no argument.
That's what they're doing.
They're turning on and off.
Look at the data.
Learn a little bit.
Arm yourself with something you can pass out like flyers.
Help us sound the alarm.
Every day counts.
Okay.
So one thing I'm going to see if we can...
We can take a, you know, you can take a moment break and get some water there.
I'm going to see if there's a way to get some Q&A in here.
So I'm going to be asking my techie to, who's helping me, this lovely young guy who's in Ireland trying to help behind the scenes and figure this out.
And I've got another person standing by as well.
No worries.
Yeah.
Okay.
Someone wants you to repeat your information about the Reading event, so maybe just details on when it is, how people can attend, that sort of thing.
Again, it's August 14th.
It's a Friday night.
The doors will be open from 4 in the afternoon.
Until at least 10.
So some of the speakers, the government scientists and so forth, will be there ahead of time to communicate with people that are coming to the event.
The event will start at 6.45.
The scientists will give statements of urgency.
And then the PowerPoint presentation, which I will give an updated presentation again to make clear the severity of this issue and how critical our time is.
And then we'll have a panel...
Discussion with the audience, with Q&A. A lot of free materials to hand out.
At least 500 commercial DVDs will be given away free.
We have about 10,000 color glossy 100-pound paper flyers to give away.
They're very expensive flyers, so everything's free.
You just simply need people to show up and to...
Help us bring this issue to the light of day.
The auditorium seats about 1,100.
It's a very big auditorium, very easy access in the middle of writing.
The flyer is on the homepage of geoengineeringwatch.org.
Okay, so I'm actually going to see about the questions here.
I think I've found them.
If you want to hold on one minute.
Actually, it's quite a few.
Looks like quite a few.
So I'm going to have to go through here kind of quickly.
Okay.
Someone is mentioning...
There's sort of this comment section.
It's on my Google Plus page, if I understand it correctly.
And someone is saying to call them...
Let's see.
There's something that you spoke to them about, someone named Dana, and that looks like someone named Kate, who's trying to reach you.
I'm just going to go through this real quick.
She can reach me at admin at geoengineeringwatch.org.
Okay, admin at geoengineeringwatch.org.
So hopefully that person is still listening.
Someone says that the nukes don't work like we think they do.
Someone is kind of questioning that.
Have you heard something to that effect?
No.
Okay.
Freshwater fish are dying because third world immigrants are taking anything they can out of the waterways.
Well, you know, whatever isolated...
We have freshwater fish dying for a lot of reasons.
We have nitrates running through the streams.
We have excessive UV, excessive heating.
The die-off in the Pacific Northwest is most related to the lack of frozen precipitation, i.e.
no snow.
And extreme UV levels, extreme heat, water is extremely warm.
It deoxygenates, so it's hypoxic or anoxic.
Fish die.
We also have fish die-offs in the ocean that are happening in even some of the freshwater lakes that are related to seabed or lake bed gassing, release of methane.
And hydrogen sulfide in some cases, both of which create anoxid and hypoxic conditions in the water.
No oxygen.
That's what kills these fish.
So there's, you know, whatever immigrants might be doing, that's the tip of the iceberg.
I mean, we have much, much bigger issues than that environmentally related.
Okay.
Let's see.
I mean, I don't see this here, but I will ask you.
Have you heard people give you information regarding planet, in essence, an incoming planetoid or planet X affecting our weather and affecting the planet and the sun and so on.
Thank you.
As far as the planet goes, that is not an area that I focus on or have seen any data to confirm that.
A very direct cause and effect happening right here, right now.
So for those who say the warming of the planet is directly related to the Sun, no data confirms that.
Not true.
For those who say the solar system is warming, also not true.
And we have a very direct, again, cause and effect happening here that to argue any other points would be like running someone over in a crosswalk with a diesel truck and saying that they died of a heart attack.
So the bottom line right now, we know the damage that we're doing, and I don't deny that there may be other factors, but the damage we're doing goes very deep.
In fact, in the magnetosphere, the detonation of hydrogen bombs, Project Starfish in the 60s, there are so many things that we have done to the planet that we can't call anything natural or a natural cycle at this point.
So whatever else might be going on, If we don't deal with these problems, it doesn't matter because we've shot ourselves in the head, if you will.
Okay.
Someone is saying that they're wondering why if the people, and this isn't a question we often get, but it's why we're having climate change when it's affecting the same people that are doing it, you know, and their children.
Well, again, as I answered that question to some degree earlier, That's a form of reasoning we need to get away from, because how many examples of they hurting themselves and their children do we need?
They have detonated over 2,000 nuclear bombs on the planet.
The power structure has used depleted uranium ammunition, which is contaminating huge swaths of the planet forever.
They're practicing with depleted uranium ammunition off the California coast.
I spoke to a Navy's PR person myself.
The radioactive half-life of depleted uranium is four and a half billion years with a B. And we have, again, the nuclear plants that are being built.
Fukushima may kill us all.
We're building 30 more right now.
But we're not dealing with reason or sanity here.
So the line of reason that this couldn't be happening because they wouldn't do this themselves, that simply doesn't hold water.
Right.
Okay.
I think we have to look at that also.
If you look at psychoanalysis, and there is such study in manuals, medical manuals, the common thread with psychopathic personality tendencies is this.
I'm trying to quote exactly.
It's a general lack of comprehension as to the consequences of their actions, even to themselves.
No matter how great the evil genius is, that's a blind spot.
With that type of personality.
So we need to consider that.
Again, we're not dealing with reason.
Okay.
I'm trying to skim through here and it's kind of...
I guess it's jumping around a lot because we might have maybe new stuff coming in.
I'm not sure.
Or it's kind of an ongoing chat.
And it's...
I don't know why it's logistically a little problematic to try to get the actual questions.
Yeah.
No problem.
It's a new system, I know.
Yeah, it's...
Thank you.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I'm not actually getting the questions.
I don't know how this thing works, but it's jumping all over the brain.
If you have any parting questions, I'd be happy to answer those.
No, not at this time.
I think that...
I guess I'll wrap this up right now.
I'm sorry to not get the clear questions from everyone.
It's...
They can search our website, though.
You know, we have everything there, Carrie.
I mean, there's so much data to cover that there's presentations there that people can record and they can distribute.
I mean, nothing is copyrighted on our site.
Nothing.
It's only there for public access.
And if you watch some of the presentations, there's a number of titles.
Engineer Drought Catastrophe, Target California, Climate Engineering, Weather Warfare, and the Collapse of Civilization.
There's a lot of presentations there with images to back up the statement.
So I just encourage people to get some education on this issue so you have a general idea of Why this is happening and how lethal it is.
Arm yourself with credible data and help us to sound the alarm because all of us are needed.
Okay.
I do see one question here.
It looks like someone's looking around Mount Shasta area and saying that they think there's a new formula that they're spraying.
Have you heard anything to that effect?
I woke up that they're spraying what?
I'm sorry, I had a little noise here.
Something in Mount Shasta, a change in the formula around the Mount Shasta area.
Not just here.
We definitely see, I mean, that's a good point to bring up.
We see a very distinct change in the application of the spraying right now.
We're seeing spray light, if you will.
They certainly know they're being seen.
And we're seeing the shorter, bright trails that don't go from horizon to horizon on many days.
And we typically see this when they're trying to create high-pressure zones.
So you end up with silvery-white skies.
If you look toward the horizon, the skies are very silvery-white.
You can see cumulus clouds over the...
...particulates in the air.
So for those who think that only the horizon to horizon trails indicate...
Spraying is going on.
That is absolutely not the case.
And in fact, when you have cloud cover, when you have moisture and storms moving through, some of the heaviest spraying occurs above that moisture.
You have where the aircraft can't be seen.
If you live in a silent location like where I live, on those types of days, all you can hear is aircraft outside.
It sounds like you live at the end of an LAX runway.
So the horizon-to-horizon trails are only one aspect of the spraying, and we are seeing what appears to be, Gary, A very concerted effort to be a lot less visible with their spraying.
So if the sky's not blue and the clouds aren't white and you see the silvery white skies and wispy, cobwebby-looking stuff, that's all spray.
Ray.
Kerry?
I lost audio Kerry.
I lost audio.
I've lost you completely, Gary.
Hello.
Can you hear me now?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, I'm just basically saying that I encourage everyone to attend your event in Reading.
And also, if at all possible, I believe you're going to try to stream it live.
I think you're working on that.
Is that right?
No.
We're going to professionally film, but we're not going to live stream.
There was a number of pitfalls that the cameramen felt they wanted to avoid...
Okay.
Start professionally filming.
It will be available afterward.
People can download it, distribute it.
It will be available for free downloads.
And, you know, that will be available as quick as we can afterward.
There's three professional cameramen there, but we won't be live streaming.
Okay.
Okay, fair enough.
So you will have it videotaped and the people can see it after the fact if they would like them?
Absolutely.
And there again, they're free to download, copy, distribute, no problem.
Okay, excellent.
So I hope that you'll send us the link so we can get the word out once the event takes place.
I'd love to get that distributed and help you get the word out about that.
I would appreciate that.
We absolutely will get it to you, Karen.
Thank you very much.
Okay, no problem.
Well, again, thank you very much.
And, you know, let's revisit this.
Let's have you on again in the future.
And thank you so much for your work and your service to humanity.
Thank you, Carrie.
Thanks for all you do for the common good.
Thank you.
All right.
You take care.
And thank you, everyone, for listening.
And we'll be back tomorrow night at 7 p.m.
Thank you.
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