This is a commentary on my recent interviews with Captain Mark Richards from the Secret Space Program.
I decided to do a commentary to cover some of the parameters of what's going on when I'm interviewing him so people could get a general idea of the playing field that he's operating in and how it affects the testimony that I may get from him as well as starting to understand why I choose to ask the questions I do and not others and so on.
So I'm basically going down this Overview here to set the scene if you will and then I do highly recommend that you watch all three what are basically interview recalls of my on the scene in Vacaville prison interview with Captain Mark Richards.
Now first of all I want to say for those who haven't seen the interviews that I am not allowed to bring in any recording equipment.
That's the first problem.
So We are in a large room with lots of people.
All the other inmates are in the same room.
There's lots of talking and loud laughter and everything that you get in a place where there's lots of humans.
I am there with Joanne Richards, his wife, and she is helping by taking notes using a pencil.
And pencil and paper is very difficult for obviously many reasons, but taking notes.
And I also do some note taking during the interview myself when I have a chance.
I spend around three or four hours with him.
At least lately I have been and during that time I'm very conscious that I must remember everything he says because otherwise it could be lost and my whole purpose is to get the truth out to the people listening.
So with that in mind I ask him very direct questions and it doesn't really allow for him to go into a lot of depth with regard to various things if you can understand that in terms of total recall My recall is going to be on the specifics as much as possible, but rather the big points he makes, and I can't literally sort of regurgitate the information verbatim.
So what I am doing is trying to get the best testimony I can under the circumstances and also to facilitate my recall of what's going on.
What has happened is that I've started to read his reports.
And his reports, such as The Battle of Vesta, that will be, I believe, published by his wife, Joanne Richards, very soon into a book.
And it's an excellent report.
It's really like a sci-fi story.
At the same time, it contains excellent Science, both conventional science and a history of space travel, as well as covering the various sciences, such as physics, astrobiology, time travel, and so on, as well as various fuels that they used or experimented with to do space travel.
And so on.
So it's really an amazing report.
And within it, of course, he has plenty of time to elaborate on various subjects.
Now, my three interviews, again, we get very clear answers to very direct questions, but we don't get a chance to have him go into sort of waxing eloquent on the nature of space travel, for example.
I encourage people to go to Earth Defense Headquarters, and I will put that URL here on the screen, and read his various reports, including the Battle of Vesta, which I'm going to reference here a few times.
So, within my reading of his recent report, the Battle of Vesta, what becomes clear is it's basically an autobiography written in the form of a sci-fi adventure story.
And I have to say that, for all intents and purposes, it appears to be mainly true.
But at the same time, because he's using that technique, I'm sure that makes it possible to get those reports out of the prison and published in the mainstream.
So that's really what his objective is in that case.
Now, on top of it, you know, his wife Joanne is facilitating all of this, And it's needless to say that we are being, basically, we are being surveilled and listened to during the time when I'm there.
There was quite a to-do when we wanted to even use a pencil to take notes.
So for all intents and purposes, he's writing an autobiography.
And it's needless to say that there are plenty of surveillance and listening devices around us at all times.
And we have, again, the pressure of time regarding the questions and the depth of the questions, what is able to be facilitated within the limited time we have each time I come and visit him.
Now, on top of it, I haven't had a chance during these interviews, of which there have been three so far, to really delve into his spiritual sort of orientation, if you will.
And that does factor in to explaining where he's coming from and might actually be very helpful if we can go down that road in the near future.
So I will try to do that when the situation permits.
The objective of this interview is for the purposes of disclosing information about the secret space program.
And within that, I just want to remind people that he has been out of the public sector now for 30 years.
One of the things that is also key is that within the Battle of Vesta, in writing his autobiography, he is describing himself in ways that are very useful in trying to understand how he comes across in the interviews, and who he really is, and how he is known within the secret space program, within the New World Order, and why they might have been motivated to frame him in such a bizarre fashion.
Which is a story in itself, and I'm hoping to get more on that subject from Mark in the near future.
So what we're talking about is a man who was a rebel even in the secret space program.
That the only person who could really control him was his father, who was again called the Dutchman, Ellis Lloyd Richards, and some people called Rich, for short.
So that's very interesting.
Now, within the third interview, he talks about Bobby Ray Inman and Claire Booth loose as both being able to control him as well.
But by control him, what I mean is that get him to follow orders.
And in the Battle of Vesta, he clearly, you'll see him becoming a rogue sort of pilot in a certain sense.
Ultimately what he does is he makes an executive decision that concerns the life of people around him, including saving humanity.
And he's often, well, I would say perhaps he's always been victorious in this sense and obviously he's kept himself alive in the process so in not following orders in some cases he was actually told behind the scenes through a certain process not to go ahead and not follow orders as was his sort of inclination in certain cases where he felt that the orders he was being given were
not really going to handle the situation properly so That's important to know, because we're dealing with a person with a strong rebel gene, and that's a term that I coined and have spoken about.
In other words, the idea that you must have a rebel gene in order to basically wake up as a human at this time and to create change on the planet.
Now, the other thing that is important to understand is the playing field that whistleblowers operate in general.
And this will apply to not just Mark Richards, but all the whistleblowers that Camelot has certainly interviewed and others out there.
So it can be very useful to those listening to kind of keep this checklist around for those purposes of understanding what you're really getting.
On the first It's important to understand where their loyalty and priorities and allegiances lie.
For example, where they are placing their loyalty.
And first and foremost.
Now, that would be sort of a laundry list, but it would begin with family, friends, loved ones.
After that, obviously, or along with that is their own lives.
So they want to stay alive in the process of disclosing, and they want to protect the lives of the loved ones around them.
And certainly Mark Richards is no exception in this case.
What I would say is with regard to most whistleblowers, the more family or extended family they have around them, the more loved ones they have, will be the more sort of strings they have attached to them that will take a priority, let's say, over truth.
So, within that, there's also the aspect of whether he's a patriot or not.
And he's obviously a very staunch patriot for America and England, and within that, the wider sort of alliance, which makes up the secret space program of which he is a part.
And then, of course, his dedication to telling the truth as a duty to humanity And also the parameters of country, planet, solar system, saving the human race and his allegiances within that.
Now, also within that will be his alliances with various off-planet races and where they are coming from and where he aligns with them.
So he's obviously not going to betray confidences either with off-planet races that he's aligned with and or with humans that he's aligned with.
Even within the secret space program or outside of it, say, friends and colleagues in service to humanity as well.
Now, there's also the idea of what is his so-called version of God or religious views or spirituality and how does that understanding that he has weigh into all of the above that I've just spoken about.
And then again, there is, on top of all of that, his overall agenda for coming forward.
In Mark's case, I believe he's doing the disclosures, and he's actually said so.
He's doing these disclosures so that he can get out of prison, and that he feels in pushing the envelope that he may become, to some degree, a nuisance, but at the same time be doing, dedicating himself to the service of humanity In light of the fact that he has been locked up for 30 years,
and also disclosing information that he feels humanity needs in order to fight the battle, the ongoing battle, with various off-planet races that would rather take over our planet, weighing their desires to use us as food in other ways.
And all of those ways have been detailed in these interviews with Mark, so it's important to take a look at all of that.
So that's kind of the playing field he's operating under.
Now, on top of it, there is a political playing field.
So whereas most people think in terms of politics on planet Earth, they don't wrap in the politics of off-planet races who are interacting with Earth at present time, as well as interdimensionals, etc.
And so all of that weighs in on how Mark is going to be Reacting to my questions, giving information, and withholding information.
So within that, I would say that in light of the Vesta report and other reports that I've read, I would say that Mark is telling very little compared to what he really knows, although he's certainly doing his best under the circumstances to answer my questions as honestly as possible.
Now, as far as pushing the envelope with regard to his disclosures, it's important to know that he feels this disclosing of truth may facilitate him getting out of prison.
In other words, the more he talks, the more chances there are that they might want to reconsider and bring him back in.
on a full-time basis to working for the secret space program under his a more active security oath as it were and to keep him busy in essence.
The idea here being that they want to keep him off the radar of the masses and away from the public in relation to these interviews that I am conducting.
So he's got an interesting balance that he has to keep and at the same time in pushing the envelope he can't push it so far as to have them want to take him out or take out family members.
Now there is another issue here which has to do with the fact that he was attacked the morning before I met with him the other day, and so there is clearly a certain amount of rogue players out there that are operational within the prison system that are being facilitated to actually attack him and try to kill him.
So that is going on.
So far he is holding his own in that regard, but it's worth noting.
On top of that, There is the issue of leverage, keeping him alive, and what kind of leverage he might be utilizing in the back channels to sort of make sure that they basically can't just outright kill him.
And it seems to me, although I don't know what this leverage may be, that there is leverage.
And it may be in the form of knowledge that he has put out there to other parties who are then told to release the information if for any reason he is killed and things of that nature.
This I don't know for sure but I can say that it's a likely sort of conclusion that one may draw under these circumstances that a person like him would find it very advantageous to have some form of leverage back channel that will keep him alive in prison.
On top of everything else he appears to be a very A dedicated American patriot.
And that's key, actually, because it also has to do with what kind of white hat backing, if you will.
He has behind the scenes to keep him going and to protect him both inside prison and outside.
And then also to protect his family members.
So this is key.
And the other thing to think about is that in...
What would, for example, motivate him to tell me a falsehood, for example?
And...
That is always a question with all whistleblowers.
Now, most whistleblowers that I end up interviewing, the reason I interview them is because I get a strong sense that at least some of their story is true.
And that it resonates.
And I cannot account for all of their story and I cannot say they never tell any untruths.
But I can say for the most part their heart is in the right place and they would only tell a sort of disinfo enough to keep themselves alive, so to speak.
And it's always a balancing act.
One of the things that would motivate him to tell a falsehood would be to do things like steer countries or various races down the wrong path, ones that are listening and paying attention to these disclosures that we are having, and that he might want them to think One thing when something else is true.
So that would involve the Russians, possibly the Chinese, certainly various races such as the Reptoids, etc.
And at the same time when he's talking to me, it's very possible that from time to time he is giving me a message that he wants to deliver, or he's been told to deliver, to the outside, be it one of these sort of political adversaries, whether on Earth or off Earth.
So that's another thing that's going on during the interviews.
And of course he is going to also tell A falsehood or protect information, if you want to look at it that way.
If it's necessary to safeguard the secret space program, his family, himself, the sovereignty of the U.S. and of humanity, and also the supremacy of the United States and England and the allied Sort of resistance on the white hat level to the interference and invasionary forces coming from
collectives, as he calls them.
So that's a very real motivation.
And the other thing is just plain out to mislead, as I mentioned, various alien races that we are fighting both on and off the planet.
So, within this, where does that leave me and or most of us in trying to learn the truth?
First of all, I would say, in a fairly precarious situation, but it doesn't mean to say that we're not getting very good information.
And we are.
And, you know, again, I believe that each of us has, in essence, a truth resonator which will tell us when we're getting good information versus the contrary.
Another thing he talks about in Vesta, the Battle of Vesta, is he is speaking about the history of NASA, and he talks about something called NEXT, which was a step-by-step program which was a plan for space travel, I believe using conventional science and public domain information.
I believe using conventional science and public domain information due to the reduction in NASA's funding that happened around the year 2000.
This is well documented in the mainstream.
He said, quote, And then he says, That's key,
and that's a very interesting way of putting things, and I don't know, I have to say that I don't think unhuman, the use of the word unhuman, is a typo.
But I do question whether he actually meant non-human forces.
Because if you say that the non-human forces of the New World Order were firmly in power in the United States in the year 2000, which in my view is certainly the case, But to get validation from him in writing within the Vesta Report is key, and that is something that needs more investigation and more delving into with Mark.
And so I also want to say that the Vesta Report contains a jumping back and forth between what is a seemingly true story, and that includes raptors in space working side by side, on an Orion craft with him as the captain and also a fascinating adventure story as I have mentioned as well as hard science.
The hard science may be science that he may be disclosing at least carefully some of the true new science within the secret space program He's also disclosing, of course, or talking about hard science that might be conventionally understood in terms of history.
So I would say that the adventure story, sci-fi, and the entire report would be something that would make a great movie and that it would probably please both Lucas, George Lucas and James Cameron, Who are directors who are fully in the know, apparently, in terms of the ET reality and what we're dealing with here on Earth.
Now, there is a gap between what the secret space program science entails and what he is writing about.
Obviously, he's not going to be revealing science that would then Give certain key elements away to either unfriendly alien groups and or unfriendly governments around the world.
And so this is key again.
So all of this adds up to the idea that he is basically playing a very careful and delicate game in disclosing from prison the way he is.
And I can also say that we are very privileged to be able to get this kind of information from him and that he is also being very clever in the way that he puts out the various reports and they contain information that's highly Well,
that may be highly secret and in some cases putting it out covertly in such a way that it will go under the radar, not only of the prison guards, but also under the notice of people who are trying to curb his enthusiasm and courage in disclosing the truth to humanity as best he can at this time.
So for those of you who have seen the interviews, which are really, in essence, my recall and my interview with him, that this should add to it.
And for those of you who have not already seen the interviews or have not seen all three, and there will be more coming in the future if circumstances are provided, I really highly encourage you to do so.
And thank you for your support of Project Camelot.
We are running on donations pretty much exclusively at this time with the exception of selling some DVDs.
So however you are able to support this work, it is very helpful when you do donate simply because my time is Completely wrapped up in trying to disclose truth to people out there.
And without your support, I simply would not have the time to do this.
So there's that.
On top of it, I want to say that I want to thank Joanne Richards for her dedication and support during these interviews.
And also Mark Richards, of course, for his dedication and service to humanity.