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Aug. 21, 2014 - Project Camelot
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PROJECT CAMELOT: JULIAN SALT - CORRESPONDENT WITH MARK RICHARDS
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All right, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm here with Julian Salt.
And he has come forward as a person who has been writing to Mark Richards, Captain Mark Richards, for seven years.
Seven years at least, yeah.
Yes.
And we're here in England.
We're doing this really impromptu interview here because he has seven years' worth of information from Mark that apparently is quite detailed.
And we are interested in getting more information out as much as we can to make the case for Mark and to also get sort of a movement going to get him released from prison.
So, Julian, you are also a friend of Joanne Richards, his wife.
Yes.
And I met you quite a while ago.
Sacramento, 2012.
Yes.
Right.
And you've been to visit Mark?
On the back of that, I actually visited Mark in April and June twice, 2012.
So it was my first meeting with him.
But having written to him for five years prior to that, it's quite a contrast.
It's something to meet the guy behind the letters.
So you actually did the reverse of what I did.
You kind of had a dialogue going on letters and then you met him.
And he's ramped up quite considerably in the last couple of years.
I think after the meeting, to be honest.
Oh, yes.
He begins to trust you.
Yes, that's right.
Because he's had a lot of flakes come and go.
They disappear.
But if you keep going and keep writing and keep talking and keep visiting, if you can, it's a 7,000 mile trip.
That's the problem for me.
Yes, obviously.
Well, for me, I did the reverse knowing that I needed to get his trust before just right out the gate.
But that's also because I knew I was going to publish it, whereas you're doing it on a more personal basis.
So what I would like you to do right now is to give a very short background as to who you are and why you even ended up writing to Mark Richards.
My original background is chemistry PhD.
So, five years at college, which ended up at Shell Research in Amsterdam, ironically.
Five years there, and I suddenly realized that the whole thing was not for me.
I then entered the environmental regime, did another degree, environmental technology, at London.
Halfway through that, realized that I needed to track the climate convention through Kyoto, Rio, beyond, Geneva, New York.
It took five more years.
Then, towards the end of that, 9-11 happened.
And literally my world changed that day.
I saw the explosions and the towers.
I connected the dots.
And I started to write a book called Global Crisis, Connecting the Dots.
It took 10 years, from 2003 to the present day.
And part of the end chapter of that book was UFOs, connected with UFOs.
And I connected everything to the UFO story.
They're all back engineers, actually.
If you can crack a UFO story, you can solve all the other problems in the world.
Financial, political...
Energy, everything.
It's all connected.
And this is why the corrupt is so huge.
Yes.
And this is why I wrote to Mark in that period, on and off.
And basically, his letters got more and more interesting.
And in the last two years, I've started focusing on real questions, like Kerry does, 20 questions per letter, and I get 20 answers.
And I think he's beginning to realize he trusts me.
Yes.
There's a dialogue.
Okay, and we're going to ask his permission to possibly post some of your letters, but it's totally up to Mark, and so we'll wait for his okay on that.
But in lieu of that, and until that happens, and as background for that, what I want to do here is try to find out...
You've obviously seen my interview recalls of Mark.
And what I'd like you to do is see if you can talk about some of the things that he may not have mentioned.
And it's going to be a little bit difficult because you're going to have to go off the top of your head.
And I'm going to try to prompt you with some appropriate questions.
But if I start going, in other words, if you have information going in a different direction and I'm going the wrong way, feel free to stop and correct me so that we make sure that we cover what we can here.
You must realize when you go to a prison cell or the meeting room is so intimidating.
Oh, yes.
To try and focus is very difficult, with no pencil and paper.
That's right.
But my first meeting, I remember quite clearly, he showed me a scar on his wrist, left wrist, and he showed me, he told me this is where he was attacked by reptilian.
I see.
And he literally showed me that.
Okay.
So that's proof, I think, of something that's happened.
He then told me the story, I was actually tracking events related to Churchill back in the 40s, 50s, and he told me that when he was a child, He was at Chartwell, which is Churchill's home visit.
He was playing in the garden, and he told me to go to the vegetable garden.
There's a wall that Churchill built.
On the top, you'll see scratch marks from a reptilian, very similar to the scratch marks.
So he was obviously playing in the presence of Churchill with reptilians in this garden in Kent.
Mind-blowing.
Okay, but what you're saying is those marks are there, or you went to see them?
They're on his wrist.
I haven't been to Chartwell yet, but I need to check that.
But he literally told me, go to the vegetable garden, find the wall that Churchill physically built himself.
Yes.
It's on the top.
Okay.
Now, in a separate sort of project, I worked with a psychic called Jill, and we befriended or tapped into prime ministers and presidents.
And we first talked to Churchill, and he corroborated exactly...
He was running around the garden and it confirmed exactly what he said.
So it's sort of confirmation from a triangular point of view, which is what I try and do.
I try and cross-reference everything that Mark tells me in his letters verbally.
I try and cross-reference it to prove that it's real.
Yes.
And so you're actually a physicist, did you say?
Chemist.
Chemist.
So a scientist.
Scientific training is just to look at the data and look at the facts.
Right.
Rather than the other way around.
Sure.
You've got to build it up from the facts.
Okay.
That's my training.
But was there a, what we might call, an inciting incident besides 9-11?
Because 9-11 is not UFO related.
So where did that...
I was aware of the UFO incident before 9-11.
I just connected the dots.
I suddenly saw the energy connection.
The fact that they're probably chasing oil fields in the Middle East through 9-11.
And there was a bigger story beyond oil, which is zero-point energy, anti-gravity, Roswell.
It's all connected.
Okay, so on a logical level, did you have encounters with UFOs?
I've seen, I think I saw one in London.
Midday, cross the bridge, and I saw a red helicopter chase what I thought was the UFO, and then I saw four black dots spiral out of this UFO, whatever it was.
Midday, broad daylight, London.
Same sort of period time, 2003.
Okay.
So that sort of convinced me this is real.
There's something going on here.
This is Broadway.
Literally above Westminster almost.
Okay.
Let me ask you one more question that's on a personal level.
Do you have a background in the military or do you have parents or relatives in the military?
Both my parents are teachers.
Teachers?
Teachers.
Okay.
In what fields generally speaking?
Art and English.
Okay.
Okay.
My mother was a headmistress, my father was an artist.
Okay, and grandparents and so on?
All teachers, right the way through.
So it's a sort of teacher background.
I see.
So questioning, answer, approach.
Okay.
Why did you write to Mark initially?
I was just intrigued totally by Joanne's story.
I went to probe in 2007 in Blackpool.
I was blown away by this story.
I thought, this can't be real.
Got to check it out.
So I literally wrote to the guy.
And the letters came back.
And when you get the letters back, you realize this guy is serious.
The way they're written is just so formal.
It's just, whoa.
And when you go to see him five years later...
The guy is for real.
He's impressive.
Yes.
Very impressive.
I mean, my prof was a Nobel laureate.
He was impressive.
Yes.
So you get used to this.
Right.
Decorum.
Yes.
And he's a black candidate.
He's definitely at that level.
Yeah, he can definitely handle himself.
He can hold himself.
He's intellectually extremely developed.
I mean, he's written about quantum physics.
It's just space travel.
He knows the stuff.
He's top of the tree.
He's right at the edge of the latest science.
I don't know how he does it, to be honest.
From a prison cell, writing these letters with footnotes, with references to the page.
It's beyond me, how he does it.
I can't do it from my office.
So how does he do it from a prison cell?
It's just crazy.
Well, yeah.
He operates on a different level, literally.
Yeah, he's also got a huge grasp of detail.
Yeah, because he's been there.
He's done it, he's seen it.
That's the key to it.
He knows his stuff because he's been there.
People like us are second-hand researchers, but he's actually been there.
That's exactly right.
That's the key to it.
He's seen it.
And his father and his grandfather.
That's right.
So it's in the lineage.
He knows the stuff.
He's born into it.
Literally.
No doubt about it.
Okay, so in terms of the information that he shared with you, obviously, again, you've seen my interviews, so let's just talk generally about his experience with Minerva, for example, and with being in the Secret Space program.
Can you kind of relate anything that comes to mind in relationship to that, that he might have He told me, I asked him, where is Minerva?
Is it still around?
He said, yes, I can't tell you.
It's somewhere in the British Empire.
That's all he can tell me.
So I've got a fair idea where it could be.
It's a biological UFO. He's probably the only person who can actually drive or ride it.
I'm pretty sure that's why he's alive.
He would be dead otherwise.
There's a reason why he's alive.
Oh, you mean they're keeping him alive?
They're keeping him alive.
Because he's the only pilot.
He told me there were nine other pilots who tried to fly it.
They all died as they literally entered the cockpit.
Really?
Yeah, they're all dead.
He's the only one who's obviously got the telepathic connection.
So he's important.
And I think it goes through his father, his grandfather, and beyond.
Probably a connection with Tesla.
So that's the reason why he's alive.
Okay, I want to ask you another question that kind of goes off to the left-hand side here.
Have you met any other person associated with Mark?
Because you're here in Britain, and I know he has family and various people.
You don't have to reveal anything, because I want to be careful with not revealing what he doesn't want revealed.
But have you?
You could just say yes or no if you...
Well, the only other person I've sort of connected with was James Casbold, who I think was one of the child...
Boys, who was rescued by Mark in Ottawa in the 70s.
Really?
The Dulcy connection.
There's a Dulcy connection there.
And the age fits.
I've met the guy, I've asked him his age, and the timeline fits.
And he does sort of remember Mark, in a way.
I was hoping it would be a probe when the conference is coming up in October, he's pulled out, unfortunately.
But I think there's a connection there.
Okay.
In terms of, again, the secret space program and maybe the pecking order, is there anything that you can tell us that you're aware of that he might have conveyed in terms of the Brits and the Americans and the political situation and how he's given his history?
It goes way back to the beginnings of his childhood, I think.
He was born into this.
By the age of eight, he was in the UK, RAF Lawton in Buckinghamshire.
And he literally was born or raised on his air base.
His father obviously flew in.
He got used to the idea of off-world ventures.
Connection with the base in the US and the era where he lived in Marin County.
I forget the name of the base.
Marin County, yes.
But I think he's just so grown up to this.
He's just aware of it all the time.
It's just second nature to him.
Correct, yes.
He's just surrounded by this through his father, mainly his father, Dutch.
I've recently tried to track the origin of the Dutch.
Apparently it's linked to the House of Orange, Nassau, Netherlands, royal family.
Yes, he does have royal family connections.
So there's royal lineage somewhere.
So Mark is well connected.
Yes.
Which again confirms why he's not dead.
They're keeping him alive for a reason.
Right.
He should be dead.
Okay.
In terms of...
Sure.
I mean, I've got a whole litany on my latest thing.
Was there any anecdotes or things that he's written to you about or questions that you asked him where you got an answer that you'd like to reveal?
Well, I can tell you, for instance, I recently wrote to him about Mars and all the questions...
Never came back.
The answers never came back.
But he literally confirmed, yes, it's all true.
Right.
There is a Mars base.
Sure.
It's real.
Yes.
He also confirmed he's been on Vesta, the asteroid, been on Mars, and the Moon.
He confirmed also there's 42 bases on the Moon, ancient bases, way back, way back, eons.
He's seen it all on the dark side.
And did he talk to you, I am curious, about the Anunnaki?
Because it was quite circumspect in regard to that.
I've never spoke to him about that.
That's the one thing I haven't ventured into.
I see.
Because I don't know the real reality of it.
I always try and ask him questions that I know about.
I see.
That I can corroborate and check.
But when you read through his reports and you cross-reference everything he writes...
It all pans out.
Every time I check everything, Google it, it's real.
He names names, he names space missions, shuttles.
I was reading through one report and he was talking about, I think he was an Operation Vesta, and he was talking about a list of scientific personnel he'd worked with on the Orion fleet, which he was the commander of one of the nine ships.
That's right.
And all the names he named, I googled them all, and they're all true, they're all real, and they're all dead.
I see.
Because of the space shuttle accidents.
Oh, yeah.
The story was they're all taken out.
Okay.
Now, I think, if I recall, you're saying there were nine Orion ships.
Nine Orion ships, yeah.
I think perhaps there were 12, but perhaps they built more.
I saw a report where it said A, B, and C, three categories, California.
Basically, there were nine countries that funded through the UN... The Orion fleet, hence the nine ships.
Right.
And they're all named based on the culture of the country.
Okay.
So his was California.
USS, whatever, California.
Alright, did he ever talk about going into Dulcy with you, that raid?
He's not actually confirmed it, but I've read his reports.
I've never directly asked him that.
Okay.
So, let's find out what did you ask him.
Do you remember the questions you've asked him over the years?
I go into the science and the metaphysics of what happens out there.
How can this thing work?
How do UFOs operate?
What are the beings like?
How many are there?
And he confirmed, I asked him literally a few weeks ago, are there four types?
He said, no, there's more.
There's at least eight.
Cigar-shaped, round-shaped, oval-shaped, various, just endless forms of UFOs.
So when you ask him a question, he always comes back with a straight answer.
There's no bullshit, it's just bang.
That's the answer.
I once asked him about the NASA moon landings, I said, were they real?
And he came back with a 10-page letter.
Heavy physics.
Explaining the dust flow when the lunar lander hit the soil, dust, how it would flow.
He knows it backwards.
This guy knows his stuff.
And did he say which group of ETs assisted us in those lunar flights?
He didn't actually say that.
No, I haven't checked on that one.
But I think I get the impression that they helped.
I think also the actual energy form they used to get the moon was alien-based.
Right.
Because they can't actually reproduce it right now, apparently.
If they want to go back in 2020, they can't reproduce the Lunar Man module from 69, which is weird.
They can't physically rebuild it.
So where did the technology come from?
Well, you know, there was all kinds of controversy in terms of also the size of the inside versus getting a human in there.
Sure, sure.
And also, to the day Armstrong died, he never spoke.
He never gave one interview.
Right.
And through this other project with my psychic friend, we actually talked to Armstrong.
He revealed there was stuff there.
Yes.
He didn't want to talk about it.
Right.
And he was under threat.
Even in spirit.
Yeah?
He's still under threat.
You're kidding.
Yeah, seriously.
He was scared to death.
Literally, even though he's dead, in spirit.
You said, I'm terrified now.
Neil Armstrong.
Neil Armstrong.
Very interesting.
And also John Glenn and Alan Shepard.
We spoke to them.
Yeah.
And various U.S. presidents.
And they're all verbatim confirmed.
It's real.
From Roosevelt right through JFK. It's real.
These guys, they turn up on the white toes.
You can't stop it.
They're in control.
We've signed the treaties.
It's real.
We've got their control.
Okay, what about the meeting place here in Britain that you talked to me about recently?
That's apparently a castle in Sussex, which I think is just an observatory now.
But the previous one, where the actual first meeting two places was in 61 in Exeter.
There was a place called...
It begins with the B. It's actually a cathedral in Exeter.
That's where the first exit meeting took place.
And they call it, just for the record here, they call it exit meetings.
Exit, exit.
Yeah, they call the meeting exit for some reason.
Exit, which is 1961.
The follow-up was Pitt, which is Persepolis, Interstellar Treaty in Iran, 1971.
And then there were no meetings until...
2001.
No, so 2001 was cancelled because of 9-11.
2011 was the next one, Pitt 2, in Paris, on the back of a G8 meeting, apparently.
So they used G8 meetings or G20 meetings in the back rooms to have the real meetings.
But Exit was the real first one.
But if you trace it back, I've actually traced it back to 1934.
Roosevelt met aliens on a ship, USS Houston, in the Panama Canal on July the 11th.
Okay.
I've actually got the ship's logs to prove something really strange happened that day.
And that's when it all really started.
Very interesting.
And every ten years, 44, 54, 64, 61, 71, that goes on.
I see.
So the next plan is obviously 2021...
And Mark told me 2031 is a big one.
That's when things could really get disclosed.
Possibly off-planet.
And I get the impression, asteroid.
What do you mean, asteroid?
An asteroid.
Meeting on an asteroid.
Meeting on an asteroid or the moon.
One of the two.
But he definitely gave me the impression.
2031 plus.
Did he ever talk to you or did you ever talk to him about why there's so much secrecy?
I've always asked him, will disclosure come back, and he's always adamantly said, no, it'll never happen.
He just, verbatim, he says it's not going to happen.
Right.
But he never does explain.
There's a certain level to which you can go, he stops.
Yes.
You can't get beyond that.
Right.
No way, no matter what you're asking, written or verbal, you can't get the answer.
Right.
It's just the way he is.
He is obviously still another true guy.
Okay, well, one of the things he says in his reports, which I find quite interesting, because it completely contradicts people out there, Who think presidents and higher officials aren't really in the know.
He's actually talking about being at meetings where these people are all in the know.
In fact, he talks about going below the level of what we would say, like in America, a congressperson.
We've got officials on all levels who are quite aware.
So maybe it's permitting, don't we?
Ready for disclosure.
Well, I'm just saying according to his records, Mark's records, but not according to the mainstream or even what you would call the mainstream alternative.
But they won't disclose it, will they?
No.
Until it's ready.
And of course they're all under threat of death, if they reveal anything.
Or prison.
And there's a specific...
There's a point in one of his reports that talks about having been attending a meeting of Exeter, where he and this young girl named Titania were brain, mind wiped, and that it's only lately that he's started to get those memories back.
Both his wife and his son were murdered.
In a car crash by MI6 in the 70s.
So that's obviously linked.
Did you ever talk to him about that?
No, that's in the reports.
There's certain things you just can't approach.
It's just too personal.
It's in the reports.
So I think he's basically lost his entire family.
He's in prison.
He's lost his entire family.
He's lost everything.
He has, except he does have members of the family still alive.
Yeah, but it's very hard to trace them.
Very hard.
They don't come forward.
I see.
They check you out, but you can't meet them.
Right.
So it's very controlled.
I think he's got at least seven families around the planet.
Russian, Italian, Yugoslavian, probably American.
Did he ever talk to you about time travel?
Yes, he's done it.
He described that it's like going through a tunnel eaten by a million ants.
That's the effect it has on the skin.
Yes.
It's real.
I believe it.
And it cooperates with other stuff from people like Andrew Basiago.
It connects.
It's real.
He's done it.
Yes.
Well, did he talk to you about the various species he's encountered?
He talks principally about reptilians, reptoids, cat people.
Raptors.
Anthropods.
Gaseous type.
Mm-hmm.
Very strange that you can't nail down at all.
They're like amorphous in a different dimension.
But he's definitely fought battles with the reptilians, with and against, with his father.
So I'm pretty sure...
I've seen the scar.
Yes.
What about the stories about raptors?
You've heard his stories about raptors, I take it.
Naga.
Prince Naga.
Well, I actually went to the Hamilton Air Force Base with Joanne when I was there.
And I saw the runway where he claims...
The UFO landed in 1952.
After his father chased it into space for two days, they came back, and an extra UFO turned up, and this lizard, draconian prince, literally walked out across the runway, and they took him home.
They took him to his house, and I've stayed in the house for a week, where Johan lives.
And you get the presence when you live there, it's just, it's the weirdest place.
It's like a time flip.
It's like the 50s.
It's like the Eagle's Nest from Adela.
It's alpine.
Oh, where Joanne lives.
In California, yes.
In Fresno.
Yes, I'm invited, so I will go at some point.
Because you literally see, in the ground floor, you'll see all the memorabilia from his father.
Yes.
The goggles from the flying days, the pipe, the clock.
It's just bizarre.
It's all, it's like a time capture.
It's real.
Right.
And the banks of bases of...
Logs and records.
There's papers everywhere.
They're just strewn all over the place.
Marks were written over the years in cabinets.
It's put an endless amount of effort.
My question has always been, why would you do all this if it was a hoax?
Why would you waste so much energy?
On such a massive, elaborate story.
Well, he's also in person, though.
He's not the kind of person that does...
No, no.
He's for real.
That would just be miles away from his personality.
He's hardcore, straight physics.
He's got endless degrees.
He knows his stuff.
And I can question him, and he just comes back with answers straight away.
There's no bullshit, it's just...
So, did he talk to you about dark energy?
That's very interesting.
I picked up that on your last interview, and I'm about to write a letter to him next week.
I see.
To ask him, what is this dark energy?
How do you trap it?
How do you encapsulate it?
How do you transport it?
Those were my next questions, yes.
I don't know.
So you haven't talked to him about this yet?
No, that's my next letter.
I'm about to write it tomorrow.
Right, I appreciate that.
Literally.
Because that was my big question.
What is this dark energy?
How do you trap it?
Well, because you've talked to him about science, though, what science have you gotten?
What have you discussed?
What areas?
I asked him last time...
Is anti-gravity zero-point energy the ultimate?
You said no.
It's way beyond that.
Right.
And that's where the dark energy stuff comes in.
Yes, exactly.
So I think there's two or three levels above that.
That's the past.
That's what we've got now.
Right.
That's what they're allowing us to see.
So they must be two or three levels way beyond that, into a different realm, into this dark energy stuff.
And if there's like 40% of the universe is dark energy, There's a lot of energy out there, which you presumably can trap, transport, use, utilize.
Presumably that's what UFOs use.
Well, did he talk to you about the Kanonians, the dog-like race?
No, I've heard about the cats, but not the dogs.
I see.
Well, what did he tell you about the cats?
Because they literally whine like a cat.
That's all I heard.
They just whine.
I see.
Did he describe them physically or anything?
They're literally cat-like.
They're physically like a big cat.
Yes.
Like a big black cat.
Do they have fur?
Yeah.
Yes?
Big eyes like a cat.
Do they have ears like a cat or do they have human?
Just like a cat, just like a big cat.
So you've almost got a question, are cats on earth alien or human?
Well, I wonder that about my cat all the time.
When you look at a cat, you think, well, what's going on?
Yeah.
It's the same with a dog.
Can you read a dog?
Can you actually connect?
Sure.
What are you talking to?
So I think there's a lot of major questions here.
He's seen his experience.
That's the key.
He's been there.
He's done it all.
So, in talking to him, again, you know, all these years of letters, anything that comes to mind?
Because I know we've put you on the spot here, and I think what we could do is...
One thing I've never nailed, and I can't prove it yet, is paperwork.
I cannot find proof paperwork of anything, like international security, his father's background.
My friend who was a psychic, she actually tapped into the web, and she found a record of his father, Dutch.
Within a day, I took it off the web.
It gone.
Really?
Yeah, she found it.
That's it.
Print it, print it.
Well, I mean, I don't know if you've heard my interview with Simon Parks that I just did.
You should.
I was about to read that next.
Because I do reference Mark in our interview.
And Simon remembers.
He said he remembers Mark's father, the Dutchman.
Really?
Yes.
So that's important.
He died in 1997?
I'm not sure the exact year.
So he remembers him?
Yes.
As a boy.
Right.
So how did they meet?
I don't know.
I just, I asked him about, you know, I mentioned his father.
I didn't expect him to say anything.
Because they were in the UK in the 60s.
Well, he thinks he's called the Flying Dutchman.
Exactly.
Well, I tried to ask John literally two days ago, why the Dutchman?
It links to the House of Orange.
Yes.
So there's a royal lineage.
Yes.
That's the connection.
A German-Germanic Dutch.
Right.
Well, that's what Simon has also in his background.
So it all connects, you see, all these things.
That's right.
They cross-reference.
Yes.
And it has a lot to do with magicians, in Simon's case.
Sure, sure.
The Crowley stuff.
Yeah.
Mark works on many levels.
Yes, no doubt.
I think he actually talks to you at whatever level you're required to get the information from.
So he obviously talks to you differently, to me and to my friend Jill.
Sure.
So he just operates on it.
He's just so clever.
Yes.
He's so impressive.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Like I said, what we can do is access some of the letters themselves.
You could even transpose the answers and maybe brief questions and send me some written stuff that we might be able to print on the internet, even if we don't literally scan the letter and put it up there, depending how you want to do it, depending what marks is okay and so on and so forth.
I can relate to another story.
I was using this friend of mine, Jill, this psychic, and we were trying to tap into the ET Treaty story.
Mark's father used to come through quite often.
He said, check out ship's logs, ship's logs, ship's logs.
So I started looking into the ship's logs.
Yes.
Then I traced the USS Houston, which is where Roosevelt used to use that as a ship.
He used to go on these sort of month-long trips from, say, East Coast through the Panama Canal or through the West Coast, so a month.
And halfway through that trip, 34, that's when the first contact was made.
And Mark's father came through and said, check out this name.
And we checked it out and there it was, on the ship's crew list.
There it was.
Bang.
Yes.
It was right.
Right.
So you get this cross-referencing again.
It's all real.
You can't make it up.
Well, that's interesting because Gary McKinnon, you know, that's exactly what he tapped into, were lists of non-terrestrial officers.
And that's why he became such a threat.
I think he saw Mark's craft.
I think he saw the Orion fleet.
I think he saw the nine ships.
Or the present version of the Orion.
I see.
I think the Orion fleet was originally 60s, 70s.
I think it was the new version.
Oh yeah, it's definitely been updated.
So I think he saw the new version.
They didn't remember the names.
It was California, Dreadnoughts, Valkyrie, all those sort of names.
One per country.
No, nine.
Probably there's twelve now.
Because Mark told me that one got destroyed in an instant.
I think it hit either the Sun or Venus.
One got destroyed.
I see.
But they've also upgraded the whole fleet, I think.
Have there been any discussions about people or chemistry that you had no idea about?
In other words, related to space travel or planets?
Dark energy is the one that I don't get yet.
But up to now, when you've talked to him, most of the chemistry makes sense?
Yeah, sure, sure.
What's going on on Earth is the same as what's going on on other planets?
Or have you even discussed that?
Not really got into that, but I sense that I get the impression there are different multiverses and they operate on different levels and it's totally different physics and chemistry.
Different timelines, different everything.
Yes.
That's the impression I get, just from perception and talking to him.
I get the impression time is different in different places.
He's quite psychic.
Did he talk to you about his psychic abilities?
I used to get, quite often in the middle of my sleep, I'd get messages.
I could see things appearing.
I'm sure it was him.
Because of the timeline with the U.S., California, eight hours.
I could tell it was him trying to re-push me into a different regime, different dimension.
Has he ever told you things about yourself that, you know...
But he once told me that...
We were together in a past life.
Oh.
As Vikings on a beach.
Okay.
And I think I drowned and he tried to save me.
Uh-huh.
That's the one story I do remember.
There is a connection way back.
I see.
I'm sure this is why we're connected now.
Uh-huh.
I'm sure this is why I'm doing this.
Yes.
Why would I do all this?
I don't know.
It's beyond me.
I can't explain it.
Right.
Ten years, I think, why am I doing this?
So your seven letters, I mean seven years of letters.
I've been in touch with him for probably ten in the long term through Joanne.
It's just that.
It's just a project that I have to pursue.
It's just this question.
So if he gives his okay, you would be willing to publish the letters?
If he's okay with it, yeah.
I'll be publishing them in a book as well.
Are you?
Yeah.
I'm going to write a book.
That's great.
Global cover-up and his sort of angle and I.S. and his father and his family just to try and get this story straight.
I'm going to balance it with the E.T. Treaties and...
What's really gone on through the years.
Uh-huh.
Way back.
Well, I think it's the whole 19th, 20th century.
Yes.
It goes way back.
Absolutely.
And it's not explained.
It doesn't start at Roswell.
It's before that.
No, not at all.
It goes back before that.
That's when they couldn't explain it.
That's when they could not explain it anymore and they suddenly had to cover it up.
Well, do you have any German background?
No.
Not in your lineage?
Actually, Salt, my surname is...
It's Roman.
There could be.
Right.
There could be a Germanic link.
I see.
I was just curious.
I used to live in Amsterdam, so I feel at home in Europe.
It's strange.
I do feel at home there.
It's where I belong, I think.
Do you have Dutch in your background?
No, but I lived there five years.
You lived in Holland?
I worked for Shell.
Oh, right.
And that's when I woke up.
That's when I... Literally woke up.
I thought, this is not right.
Not this is all.
Have you been interfered with, other than your letters disappearing from time to time?
Phones disconnect.
A friend of mine I talk to quite often, Jill frequently, we do this work on the project.
And quite often, we're halfway through a conversation.
If we mention Mark, the phone goes dead.
Oh yeah?
Both ways.
Yes.
And a few months ago, she had a really nasty experience where...
She literally put the phone down.
We did 17 readings in a row.
And on the 17th, we were getting too close to the truth, I think.
And she literally got projected through a wall, horizontally.
Ended up in hospital.
Internal bleeding.
Oh my God.
Neither killed her.
Wow.
So it was a warning.
We were getting too close.
She can't explain how she ended up going vertically through a wall on her own home.
She could have died.
So she's a psychic, you're saying?
And she's met Mark.
Well, this is a strange thing.
I met her in Kent, and I told her about Mark.
Before I knew she went out to see him first, she met him before me.
Oh.
I was doing the research before her.
She had the guts to go out.
Yes.
So she met him first.
Right.
I met her around twice.
Uh-huh.
And she said he's wrong.
He's wrong.
Yes.
And then I followed.
I see.
So that was the connection.
And we have this sort of triangle connection.
Uh-huh.
So it just works.
Now, would she be interested in talking to Kemalat, do you think?
Yeah, I think so.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
On audio, wouldn't do it.
On audio, yeah.
Okay, well, maybe we can arrange that.
She's got a really psychic...
I mean, she's just incredible.
She just taps into stuff.
Okay, is there anything else?
Because I'm not going to continue to kind of probe you here.
We'll kind of use the letters as the evidence, so to speak.
But in terms of what we're talking about, if your mind just goes freely into this area, is there anything else you want to relate on this interview?
I just feel a massive injustice for...
He's the nicest guy you'll ever meet.
When you walk in there, it's like meeting an uncle.
You think, this guy shouldn't be in here.
He's in the wrong place.
It's as simple as that.
He's just so intelligent.
He's so tuned into everything.
He knows so much.
He's in the wrong place.
It's just an injustice.
He's also got a very gentility about him.
Even though he can handle himself, you've got no doubt about that.
Totally.
He'd kill you if you wanted to.
But he'd protect you as well, equally.
He looks after certain people.
I just think it's just totally wrong.
Totally wrong.
And his whole family has obviously paid the price.
Yes.
What about your own E2 experiences?
Have you ever met any beings or had any interaction with beings?
Not yet.
Not yet.
But I feel something will come through all this.
I just feel it's leading that way.
Sure.
I mean, I was told years and years ago I'd meet at Lightwork and I'm pretty sure that's Jill.
Uh-huh.
And she's helped me endlessly in this project.
I see.
Through the psychic connections.
We just tap in just like that and we're talking to JFK and Churchill.
Churchill came through in his own voice.
It's phenomenal.
Really?
Talk to me direct.
So she's channeling through herself.
I see.
In my office, in my own home in Kent.
I have this idea.
Give her a photograph.
She put a hand on the photograph.
Two seconds later, I'm talking to JFK. And Churchill, and Diana, and Queen Mother.
Queen Mother, very interesting.
She actually confirmed.
She used to host all the ETs for all the meetings, like exit.
Oh yeah?
She was the host.
She made sure that they were looked after.
In Buckingham Palace...
You don't mean the current Queen, you mean her mother?
Queen Mother, the one who died.
I'm not British, so that means the mother of the Queen.
Yeah, the one who died.
She died at 101.
And she was reptilian?
I don't know about that, but she hosted all the ETs that came to these meetings, particularly in 61, in Exeter.
And she literally said there was a back room.
We used to use the stables and made sure that there were certain ambiance, soil, sand, not too long.
Oh, right, for all the different creatures.
Different types, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So they cross-references to what Mark says in his reports.
Very interesting.
So again, it confirmed it's real.
That's interesting, yes.
The Queen Mother.
This is actually like a back channel in Buckingham Palace, is it?
And various other places like, I think it's Windsor Castle and Sandringham and the one in Scotland.
Scotland particularly favourite.
They like Scottish castles because they're out of the way.
Yes.
Easy to land.
Right.
Cover up landings and takeoffs.
So again, that confirms stuff.
I've tried everything, basically, as a scientist, to try and cross-reference the data with the psychic, mark, and the physics.
It all pans together.
I can't find a hole in it.
That's the problem.
The only one thing I did find was...
In the report, Mark claims his father was a director of the NRO, National Reconnaissance Organisation.
When you look on the web, he's not there.
But again, they can play with these things.
Yeah, well, look...
Brian O'Leary that I introduced, we interviewed, and he's a candidate as an astronaut for Mars.
He's famous, absolutely famous.
A journalist in San Diego tried to write about him and his background.
He was fired.
And Caltech.
Try to disappear his records.
Just like the Bob Lazar type stuff.
As if he doesn't exist.
When the man was still alive, they did this.
It's incredible.
I mean, they'll do anything.
They really, they have no, you know, they have no qualms whatsoever.
They think people are idiots, so they will just do anything.
But just shows you the level this goes to.
Sure.
The secret they're trying to cover.
Yeah, they're trying to cover something up, absolutely.
Massive.
Yeah.
So again, it confirms to me, yeah, it's real, because they can't find it.
It must be real.
Okay, what about the people backing Mark up that are allowing him to disclose what he's disclosing now?
Do you have any theories about that, or has he told you anything?
He's told me for sure he's had documents in his prison cell from the National Security Council.
Okay.
I mean, Jesus Christ, we're talking one step away from Obama.
Right.
He's got a document, he's had to vet it and check it, and is this real, is it okay?
He's told me that.
Mm-hmm.
It's real.
Yes.
So how does that happen?
Yes.
It doesn't make sense.
He's on the cosmic level.
Sure.
That's my guess.
He's just in prison.
He's a Bob Dean in prison, effectively.
Yeah, but even higher ranked.
Higher.
I understand.
But kind of what I meant by that was that there are, within the ranks, which there's a split.
One side wants disclosure, so to speak, of a certain kind.
And the other side also.
And...
Just making sure this tape is working here.
So one side wants a kind of disclosure, let's put it that way, and the other side doesn't want anything out at all.
We assume the people that don't want anything out are kind of in control because Mark's letters do disappear, right?
But stuff comes out.
But stuff comes out.
So how does he ever relate?
I think there's a controlled display.
Those people that are on that side.
I don't mean...
He's obviously not going to relate the players.
No, you won't tell me.
But he doesn't...
Does he describe anything?
He's told me he's definitely got military contacts.
I'm pretty sure Pentagon.
Yeah.
Still active in the Pentagon.
Right.
They're writing to him right now.
That's how he gets the latest data.
Yeah, I mean, I think that they would be protecting him as well, keeping him alive, right?
Sure.
Because he's a useful asset.
Yes.
They need him.
Yeah.
He's got phenomenal knowledge.
Absolutely.
So there are two camps.
There's definitely the white hats and the non-white hats.
He's on the white hat side, obviously.
Yes.
And his father was way above that.
Right.
Back in the 50s, 70s.
I think it's ongoing.
It's ongoing.
Yes.
He knows of this dilemma.
And it's a battle.
Right now it's a battle.
Oh, it is.
Well, I mean, he's a very unique character because 30 years in prison, his reports are extraordinary, as well as my interviews with him thus far, and yet he's sitting there.
There's no one else like him.
No one else is disclosing anything of this nature, coming from a prison cell.
He's above Snowden, he's above all that.
Oh, yeah.
Because he's in a prison cell with God knows what next to him.
Right.
And he's still writing these phenomenal letters.
I don't know.
Well, he is.
I did meet.
I mean, I saw that he has protection in prison as well.
True.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
Well, you saw it in the meeting room?
I can't go further than that.
Let me just say that, you know, I mean, in the natural way that one would have people on their side.
I think he's quite revered.
Yes.
That's the impression I get.
Yes.
He's like the prof.
Yeah, I think so.
That's the impression.
I got that impression as well.
Everyone sort of parts the way.
Yeah, they They very much kind of give him his space.
Because he's special.
Yeah.
Extremely unique.
He teaches in the prison system.
I bet.
There's a lot of payback.
Yeah.
So he's doing his good stuff, but he's just so unjust.
Yeah, it's extraordinary.
Well, I'm very hopeful that something's going to change very quickly.
I'm hoping this process that we're going through and you're contributing to it...
We can trigger it and do something out of it.
Yes.
That's what...
My friend Jill, she says 2016...
Really?
Yeah, that's the timeline.
Two more years, we'll get him out.
Okay, well, I hope it's sooner than that.
I hope to, yeah.
Sure.
There is some talk about some, you know, events happening on the horizon.
Has he ever talked to you about that sort of thing?
I asked him once about Planet X, and he didn't believe it.
He thought it was a different dimension.
Uh-huh.
So it's real, but it's in a different dimension, so it won't affect us.
Yes.
That was the one thing I asked him.
Uh-huh.
So you've never heard anything about him talk about future events of any kind?
I think there are events, but not mega.
There are two timelines, and I think we're on the safe one.
This is the dodgy one.
That's the impression I got.
Yes, he did convey to me as well that he thinks it's pretty positive.
But we're on the good one.
I think something happened in the 70s and 80s, where we veered off it.
Something happened, linked to Montauk, possibly.
Time travel, Philadelphia.
What about the Hadron Collider?
Did he ever talk to you about that?
Not directly, but I've got an impression that that could mess with things from a scientific, physical point of view.
Yes.
It's got to.
It's a bit like Montauk.
What's the difference?
Well, you need to watch my interview with Simon Parks because he talks about what they did with it and what's going to happen to it now.
I'm not going to sort of front load you because I'd love to maybe hear from you after that.
In terms of building more or...?
They're going to build more?
Yeah, they're actually, well...
I mean, I can spill the beans here, but we can talk to Mark about this as well.
I mean, they are basically forcing Japan to build a new collider in Japan.
In Japan, Fukushima?
Otherwise, they will take it down, take the place down, put it under...
Fukushima part two.
Yeah, they're threatening them with putting the whole island under the water if they don't.
And this is a very dark project, apparently.
But why would you build it in Japan?
Because you have a race of people that want to stay alive and keep their country going.
I mean, it's a, what do you call it, blackmail.
Yeah, sure.
And I don't know why the Japanese are on the...
They have their sights on the Japanese.
We're not talking about the White Hats.
We're talking about the darker side.
There seems to be a big issue.
It's going to go way back to Atlantis.
Exactly.
Going back to Mu.
Yeah, sure.
The Morian will move.
Interesting.
But I have a question why you would build a collider on a fault zone.
That's, there you go.
But it probably, I can say that it will at least have a vortex.
Unless you want it to fail.
Well, but you see, it has to be, keep in mind that Geneva and the Hadron Collider is in Lake Geneva.
You've got a water, a body of water, and you've got to have a convergence of ley lines.
Right, right.
And that's part of what goes on, even to facilitate anything.
I mean, that much has been made clear.
Mm-hmm.
They build military bases on them.
They keep control of the power places on Earth.
Mark, I once mentioned asking Mark about Stargates.
You said they're all over the Middle East.
I'm sure this is why there's such a mess in the Middle East right now.
Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan.
And they said they do move.
They're natural and they're man-made.
It's two types.
Two, yes, absolutely.
They said they do move.
They rotate and they migrate.
So you've got to know where they are.
Hence the troops need to be there to keep an eye on things.
Hence the TV programs and all the crazy stuff going on right now.
Libya, Gaddafi.
They're all connected.
It's all one big cover-up.
It is.
Massive.
Yeah.
Everything you look at is just not real.
Yeah, and all of it has the ET relationships.
ET footprint behind it.
Yes, everything.
And none of it makes sense unless you understand that.
You've got to go above it.
Yes.
It's government, super government, ET. That's right.
Off-planet.
That's the only way you can explain it.
Right.
That's the conclusion I've come to.
Yeah.
It's off-planet.
Right.
Controlling everything.
And various layers, no different parts of the equation.
Mm-hmm.
But nobody knows.
Apart from maybe Mark.
This is the key.
I think he's the key.
I really do think he's one of the keys to this.
Well, because he has the history in him as well.
You know, and I think there may be, there are others, but they're hidden.
You know, he has come forward.
Sure.
I think he's told me there are other people like him in the system.
Yeah.
And he won't name them.
But some of them are probably still working for the system.
And they're heavily, in a sense, he's on the border.
He's out.
He's partially out.
They're embedded.
Yeah.
Sure.
So they just simply, unless they blow their cover, they simply can't.
But they're dead the next day, aren't they?
Yeah.
Could be.
But we never know what the future may hold in that regard as well, because I'm always hoping there'll be more people.
It'd be lovely to have even somebody on the outside come forward and say, yes, I know this man, he's in prison, he's done this, he's done that.
Could you trace him like his classmates from the 70s, in college, to try and work out, you know, what's this going on?
For real then?
Well, I think as we put these interviews out, people are going to realize.
Because, you know, the way it is, is not to track them down, but for them to come to us.
To come forward, exactly.
Because it is fraught with danger.
Sure, sure.
Everyone, you know, knows this.
And so, I never want to push a...
A case, so to speak.
I really wait for the people to come to me.
But there must be thousands of people.
There must be.
Absolutely.
I mean, he's a gregarious type of guy.
He is.
Yeah, he's the kind of guy, and you wouldn't forget him either.
You wouldn't miss him.
He's quite memorable.
Apparently, you used to know James Garner.
Recently, he died.
Well, he had connections with all kinds of well-known celebrities.
Well, he told me he was taught to drive by...
Who's the guy?
That's right.
Ian Fleming.
That's right.
Ian Fleming.
Kent's down here.
Yeah.
He drove around the Kent's roads as a youngster.
Yes.
One of the childminders was a famous novel writer.
But he's got history.
He sat on his mother's Or the Queen Mother's lap.
She confirmed that in that psychic meeting.
She confirmed he was in the palace.
In the East Egg Hunt, Buckingham Palace, in the 50s.
It's real.
It's all there.
It's just cross-referenced every time.
You can't fault it.
I've tried.
As a scientist, I've tried to knock it and it's just, I can't find a hole.
I can't find a hole.
It's real.
Okay, I'm going to draw this to a close.
We've taken enough of your time, and I want to thank you very much.
And we're going to sort of make sure this is all happening here, and it is.
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