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Jan. 30, 2014 - Project Camelot

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PROJECT CAMELOT: LIVE WITH PALADIN ON BITCOIN & SUPERBOWL

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	Thank you.
	Now everyone is going to see, we're going live right this minute, everyone is going to see this psychotic name that you gave herself.
	Oh, they see Alibaba.
	Take our screenshot out of there.
	No, can't do it.
	That's why I wanted you to have a new sky.
	Okay, so we are live right now, I think.
	Hold on one minute.
	I have to fix this.
	See if I can just put you even.
	Hi, everyone.
	And let me know if you can hear me before we start off here.
	Okay, looks like the chat's already going strong.
	Okay, and someone says yes, they can hear us.
	Awesome.
	Okay, so hi there, everyone.
	I'm Keri Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm introducing Paladin the White Hat, who has, well, depends if you've been paying attention to my website.
	He's been a contributor.
	He's actually got a column on our site, and he was also a member of the White Hats, Which is a website called darkcabalblogspot.com or something of that nature.
	And we've got it linked on my site, so if you want to go over and see what they used to publish, you can go over there and get some great reports, which are still very pertinent right now.
	He is not going to be seen in the flesh, so to speak, because he's chosen to remain somewhat incognito.
	That's his choice and we honor it.
	But thank you for all coming and listening to what we've got to say here.
	This will be an inquiry into Bitcoin and it should be absolutely fascinating.
	Paladin and I have been having many discussions over the past few months about Bitcoin and a myriad of other topics and So Paladin, I'm going to call you Paladin.
	I have to remember to call you that.
	And anyway, welcome and why don't you introduce yourself.
	We did put a short introduction article on Paladin's column and that's on the...
	Project Camelot website, so you're able to go there and see what he had to say as introductory comments.
	But why don't you introduce yourself, your background, and you can say more about your background than you've actually said in writing.
	Okay.
	Well, first of all, I want to thank you for bringing me on your radio show or on your live stream here.
	It's not every day that I get to be interviewed by a live breathing icon.
	Okay.
	Don't say that.
	I'm just honored to be here after many attempts to get me here.
	So, well, let's see.
	I'm just a simple boy from the Midwest, born and raised.
	Gosh, I don't know.
	I have an accounting degree.
	I spent five years in the corporate world.
	Part of that, half of that was...
	As an auditor, the other half of that was as an accountant, a financial manager for a manufacturing facility.
	I left the corporation, went into real estate.
	I got my contractor's license and a real estate sales license.
	I did that for about four or five years and got back into the investigations through a private investigator who hired me to start doing accounting work And that sort of led me down the path of where I am today.
	I have a lot of contacts through that business in the intelligence world, in the law enforcement world.
	And I don't know, you said you were somewhat trained because you had an uncle in the FBI or something of that nature?
	Yeah, I had an uncle in the FBI and he When I got out of college in the late, well, whenever it was I got out of college at that point in time, and I think it might still be the case, he was in the FBI, and he was about four or five years older than I was,
	and he, you know, long story, my uncle, but anyway, he wanted me to come in because he said at that point all we're hiring is accountants and lawyers, and I just, I wasn't interested, and he went on, he tried to get me in, but anyway, so, There were things that I did with him.
	I would visit him.
	I remember one time when he was assigned to the Philadelphia office, he invited me over to his office on a Sunday, and there was nobody in the office, and he took me to this chart that had the organization chart of the local Philly mafia, which was just kind of interesting.
	So anyway, I've been around that.
	As I got into the private sector, You know, you get cases that involve all kinds of things, all kinds of different subjects.
	You know, you're kind of like an attorney or a similar kind of profession in that regard because you learn about all kinds of different areas based on the cases that you work.
	So, I have a very good friend that's a CIA. I guess you would call him a contract agent.
	He's a specialist.
	And just in my work, you come across all kinds of things.
	You're kind of like Toto who gets to see behind the curtain because your investigations take you, well, they just take you wherever they take you.
	You follow the leads, you follow the trail, and you learn interesting things and you always learn things that you weren't expecting to learn on a lot of this stuff.
	And so that's kind of where it is.
	My background and experience are mainly finance and accounting and so as you and I, interesting you, I was thinking tonight, you and I talk about subjects and all I can talk about is football and money and you talk about everything, you inform me about everything else so that's kind of our relationship.
	So we're going to talk about those few subjects tonight and And so really the finance and the accounting part is my specialty.
	Forensic accounting, I do some expert witness work in the court system for forensic accounting regarding cases that I work on that I have to go testify what I found.
	So did you testify in the O.J. Simpson case or what?
	No, no, no, no.
	We worked on that.
	One of my partners Actually was mentioned in that case.
	Looking back on it, it wasn't really that special because everybody that was in L.A. at the time worked on the O.J. case for one way or another.
	We worked for CBS. We also worked for King World, which at that point was running the shows.
	I don't know if they're still on.
	It was Inside Edition and American Journal, and I was interviewed.
	As a matter of fact, I was interviewed in one piece about OJ. It had to do with the jail visits.
	And so I was interviewed on that TV show because we had done some work for the producer of that show, one of the producers of the American Journal.
	We had done some investigative work for him, and so I had a partner who was going into the jail to see inmates.
	Or, well, it was a local jail there in LA. And he would see O.J. because O.J. would come into the, there's a room called, it's called the attorney room, where you conduct official business.
	The inmates can, you know, that's when they talk to their attorneys.
	That's when they talk to their bail bondsmen.
	They talk to their private investigators.
	It's separate from the You know, visitors, the family visitors, or just the normal visitors room.
	So he would go in there at night because he did a lot of work through the county system as a, in LA County, well, everybody's familiar with the Public Defender's Office.
	Well, in LA County, they actually have a private investigators panel where if you want to get the state or the county to pay for your private investigator, You can do that.
	So there's a list of them that, you know, the inmates call and they go conduct their business.
	So he was doing his business down there at the jail and he kept seeing OJ. OJ was in the attorney room all day long.
	And so he says, you got to come, you got to come, you got to come.
	So I did.
	I went down there with him and I started visiting with him every time he would go there and OJ would be there and, you know, Cochran would come in and his two kids, I forget their names.
	The grown kids, not the young kids, would come in.
	Paul Barbieri came in.
	F. Lee Bailey came in.
	And anyway, at one point in time, we had suggested to King World, it's kind of a funny story, we're getting off of such a chair, but we had, well, okay, it was me, and O.J. would come in in his coveralls, and he would be shackled from, you know, from around his waist and his wrists and his ankles, and they would lead him in there, and he was a celebrity.
	You know, he was giving the peace sign and smile and, you know, and everybody, hey, Juice, man, what's up?
	What's up?
	All the other inmates, you know, and it was like, I mean, he was, it just, it was so different from what you saw on TV because he would go in, he'd get all dressed up in his, you know, in his suit and tie and he just, it was just a difference of night and day.
	And I thought, you know what, everybody needs to see this.
	So we went to King World and we made the suggestion that we would, that I would sneak in a camera and take a picture of it.
	And so when I did this...
	That's the FBI calling you, telling you to shut up.
	No, just kidding.
	So we suggested this to King World.
	Their headquarters was in New York.
	They sent out one of their producers to talk to me, and I said, yeah, we can do it.
	We worked it out, you know, and I can get a camera in there.
	You're not supposed to do that.
	You're not supposed to take any recording devices or whatever.
	But I figured, you know, what if it's worth it to get it out?
	Well, anyway, so he took the idea back to the attorneys in New York.
	At King World headquarters and they ended up deciding not to do it because they were afraid that they'd either be sued by the sheriff who ran the jail, who was responsible for the jail, or they'd be sued by OJ's people.
	So we ended up not doing it.
	So eventually what happened was the sheriff petitioned Ito to Not allow O.J. to have all these visitors come.
	Because he had visitors from the time that that opened, I think 9 or 10 o'clock in the morning, till 9 o'clock at night.
	O.J. had visitors all day long.
	And that was, you know, it's not what it's for.
	He had his NBC buddies would come in and visit with him.
	And so, I mean, we saw all kinds of stuff.
	We were going in there almost every night.
	So anyway, what happened was Block wrote a...
	He filed a petition with Ito to...
	Disallow certain people, only people who were on the witness list.
	And so that was the piece that American Journal and Inside Edition actually aired, the interview, and it was, I don't know, it was about five minutes.
	And I talked about what it was like to be, you know, to observe OJ in jail and how disruptive it was and all the visitors and all this kind of stuff.
	So that was what that was about.
	But we did a lot of other work We did work for King World, and they did stories, and then we did work for CBS, the local CBS affiliate news guy there.
	Well, I won't mention his name, because I know he's still around.
	But anyway, so we did work for them, and everybody was in LA. I mean, it got to the point where it was just a big circus.
	But it was interesting.
	We found out a lot of stuff.
	You know, we used to sit around, and obviously everybody was You know, in LA, at least, was following the whole thing.
	If you weren't watching it on TV, you'd read about it in the newspaper.
	And we were picking up the tabloids, and interestingly enough, the tabloids were more accurate than what the newspaper was.
	Not surprising, I guess, maybe, but...
	Yep.
	Okay, now, didn't you also...
	I don't know if this...
	I'm not supposed to mention this, but did you work with the DEA at one point?
	Not exactly.
	I was associated with one of their agents for a while, as I was associated, and I guess in a business sense, in sort of like an advisory capacity, and I was also associated with an IRS CID investigator, too.
	Okay.
	But I want people to understand, even though you're very modest, you actually are a really sophisticated forensic financial investigator, and that you're very responsible for a lot of what the White Hats were putting out in terms of your investigations, correct?
	Yeah, I guess that's pretty accurate.
	Okay.
	Alright, so that's just a good basis from which to launch into the whole Bitcoin thing.
	And, you know, that's what we're here to talk about here today.
	But we did want, before we do that, we still want to talk briefly about the false flag letter that I received, which, you know, I published on Camelot and has also been received by some other alternative news outlets, and some of them chose to publish it.
	Others did not.
	I can report that Stu Webb I'm actually going to do a live interview next week with Gene Tatum and Stu Webb for those listening.
	But Gene Tatum is somebody who goes way back working in the CIA. I don't know what his exact title was or affiliation, but he did things like run drugs for the Clintons and so-and-so back in those days.
	But bottom line is that they, the FBI, he published, somehow got a copy of this letter himself, this false flag called, you know, treason.
	A false flag letter and put it on his website and then he was interrogated by the FBI for eight hours after that because they thought he wrote it.
	He did not write it.
	I guess they let him off and they're still looking for the guy, theoretically, that wrote the letter.
	It appears to be authentic.
	Some people are questioning that, I'm sure.
	But there are some reasons why it appears to be authentic.
	It came in the mail for one thing and it does have a Denver postmark and some people are reporting that.
	I think they reported that before it's news or whatever it was.
	But we're going to discuss very briefly because Paladin did have some insights about that which were quite interesting even before this letter was written.
	So I invited him to make some comments here just for people to hear what he had to say.
	So why don't you kind of tell them what you told me before the letter ever showed up?
	Okay.
	Well, I've been a football fan.
	I have to admit that I'm an NFL junkie and I played football for nine years, three years in college and six years in junior high and high school.
	So I had guys that I played college with that went to the pros, so I followed them.
	And anyway, I'm a fan.
	So I Just a real quick history of the Super Bowl.
	It started in 1967.
	And this is the 48th Super Bowl that they had.
	A little bit of history.
	36 of the 47, 48 Super Bowls have been in Florida, California, and New Orleans.
	Three in Texas, two in Arizona, two in Georgia.
	So all but four of them have been in What you would consider definitely warm climates, and there's a reason for that.
	I don't think they want the weather to affect the Super Bowl.
	They don't want it to be cold, rainy, snowy, whatever.
	So, the first one that they had in a northern city, a cold-weather city, was in Detroit in 1982, and I happened to work that one as a security guard for Burns, and that's a whole other story.
	That was the first one, and that was in 1982, and it was the 16th Super Bowl, and if anybody remembers it, it was Montana's first Super Bowl win of the four that he had.
	Well, anyway, the weather was terrible.
	It didn't go very well as far as, you know, because the Super Bowl is essentially the big year-end party for the NFL corporate sponsors and the teams and everybody.
	I mean, there's probably just as many corporate sponsors Well,
	anyway, with all these things that go on before the Super Bowl, Super Bowl week, You know, it's better to have it in LA or Miami or sunny weather places like this in January.
	Nobody wants to go to Alaska in the middle of winter.
	Well anyway, so it was after they did the first one in Detroit, then it was another 10 years before they did another one.
	That was in Minnesota.
	Then it was 14 more years, they went back to Detroit.
	Then six years later, they went to Indianapolis, which was actually two years ago.
	And what prompted our conversation about this was that two years ago, when they had it in Indianapolis, it's in the middle of the winter, and the weather, the four or five days prior to the Super Bowl, or four or five days prior, was in the 50s and the 60s, just unheard of.
	I told Carrie that it would be like it's snowing for four or five days straight in LA in the winter.
	I said to her, I said, you know, I think those guys controlled the weather.
	I think they, you know, they made it happen because people were wearing shorts.
	There was bands playing outside.
	I mean, it's just unheard of in the middle of winter in a place like this.
	So the weather was great.
	They had a zip line.
	It was all outside.
	So the Super Bowl selection site is very similar to what they do for the Olympics.
	You know, it's about you have to have obviously have to have a big stadium.
	The venue's important.
	You have to have the infrastructure for the hotel rooms and the restaurants, and the airport has to be accessible and close and good flights and good schedules and all those kinds of things.
	And so the cities actually don't make the pitch to the NFL, and the NFL decides where they're going to have it.
	Well, about two years ago, they announced that they were going to have this year's Super Bowl in New York.
	Okay, we're talking about I mean, we're talking about history here on several levels because this is the first time that they've ever had a Super Bowl in a cold weather city outside.
	Okay, so that got my attention.
	And what I was saying to you was, now you watch this weather because if they have good weather, I will be convinced that they're controlling the weather.
	This will be the capper for me.
	This will confirm that.
	And you said, Yeah, and it's a good place to have a terror thing.
	And I thought about it, and I said, yeah, you're right, that's a possibility.
	So, the interesting nuances about this is that, you know, the host teams are basically New York Jets and New York Giants.
	They're in New York.
	The actual stadium that they're playing, though, in is actually New Jersey, in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
	So, there's some interesting things.
	The NFL office, corporate office, is in New York.
	And, of course, we all know where 9-11 took place, and as I told Carrie the other day, it's kind of like that's terror central.
	So it is sort of, if there was a place they would do it, and they would plan it, and they would be able to get by with it or get through it, this would be the place.
	So the letter that you received was kind of timely in that regard.
	Okay, but there was also the element that we talked about, which has to do with how Giuliani and the police...
	Sort of facilitated in a certain sense the cover-up of 9-11, in my opinion, and the fact that we're again in New York and there might be a real reason why they would choose New York over and over again for false flags.
	Well, and I think there's two or three parts to an operation.
	There's the planning part, there's the actual execution, and then for it to be successful, You have to make sure that nobody gets arrested, nobody gets caught.
	That part of the plan is carried out by politicians and the law enforcement and the local law enforcement on the ground.
	How many times have we seen this happen in New York?
	The Twin Towers were hit twice.
	We had the rocket launch that brought down, what, Flight 800 off the coast of Long Island back in, what, 95 or 96.
	So, you know, the most important thing for them to be able to get away with it involves the fact that nobody gets caught.
	Nobody gets in trouble for it.
	That's how they get away with it.
	I mean, they can be bold.
	We can all know That, you know, there's a lot of issues with 9-11.
	There's a lot of issues with a lot of things.
	Oklahoma City, there's, you know, I mean, you can look at any one of these incidents, Sandy Hook, Columbine, and you can pick it apart from an evidentiary standpoint.
	And from my standpoint, if I apply my rules and methods, it's always about the way they handle the evidence or their lack of handling the evidence, really.
	I mean, they don't treat any of those places as a crime scene.
	Where you would bring in the CSI people and all that stuff to get samples of everything and to handle the evidence and keep everybody out.
	They don't do that.
	To me, that's always the first confirmation that this is a false flag.
	That's the part of it where, okay, if you don't have any evidence, then your guys can't bring a case against anybody.
	That's the part that they have to cover up.
	You know, in the bigger picture, you've got 9-11, you've got the Kennedy assassination, and what do they do?
	They just appoint a commission to cover it up.
	And then they point to that commission finding, you know, and say, well, the Warren Commission said Oswald did it, and the 9-11 Commission said the 19 Arabs did it.
	You know, so Al-Qaeda did it.
	So, you know, end of story.
	We're done.
	Close the book and go on.
	But if you know the way they're supposed to do things and you see the way they don't do it, then that's your first clue.
	But you have to understand that the most important part is to be able to handle the after part because that is the key because those operations, you know, they don't ever go according to plan.
	There's always a glitch, there's always a problem, and I still think that, you know, the fourth plane that got shot down over Pennsylvania or supposedly got shot down That was a glitch.
	That was a problem.
	There's some theories that think that was on its way to Chicago to get the Sears Tower.
	And if you look at the flight line, it lines up.
	So anyway, I think this letter, you know, from the standpoint, if I look at it from a security standpoint, it seems to be authentic because had they sent it through the Internet, it would have been trackable from an IP standpoint.
	We all know what NSA is doing.
	Hi, guys.
	You know, the other thing is, is that they sent it through the mail, so that means that it's going to be harder to trace the origin.
	And obviously, I mean, the thing of it is, based on what they said, you would presume that they're, at least I presume that they're workers inside the metal dance complex.
	Because once they come and seal that perimeter for the Super Bowl, the only people that get in and out of there...
	Are people who will be authorized to be there, you know, the maintenance people, the people who are going to paint the field, the people bringing in the supplies for the souvenirs and the food and all that kind of stuff.
	I mean, once they create a perimeter, then only official people get in.
	And so it seems like, to me, it would have to be somebody who works maintenance or something like that.
	Maybe I shouldn't even be talking about this, but I guess what I'm saying is it's obvious That it was written by somebody who has knowledge of the inside of the Meadowlands complex.
	It's not something that you and I would see if we just went there to watch a football game.
	Okay, but you also said that it's very likely that someone mailed it to someone in Denver in a separate envelope.
	Yeah, this used to be a...
	And if you were sending mail and you didn't want somebody to know where it was coming from, then you sent, you know, you put it in a, you made your normal envelope, and then you sent it, you put it in another envelope, and you sent it to one of your buddies in, you know, New York or Miami or, you know, wherever, and you just say, hey, I'm sending you a letter, just, you know, take, open the envelope, take it out, it's already sealed letter, it's already stamped, just take it and put it in a mailbox.
	And so, You know, your local mailbox.
	And what that would do is it would assure that the postage mark was not from where it originated.
	You know, it'd be a middleman kind of thing if you want to look at it that way.
	A cutout, if you will.
	And so that told me that whoever did this, the originator, the source of this, he or she was taking precautions to protect themselves from the security standpoint.
	Absolutely.
	And that's also indicated in the first sentence of the letter, you know, and that they plan to have it go out to these various outlets.
	There is evidence, because the other people did, some of whom did release it, that they did send it out to the people that they said they were going to send it out to, so for whatever purpose.
	Well, I mean, we could spend quite a while talking about this, but just some key aspects, if any, that you would like to bring up.
	I've already put onto this page advertising this event, actually, and on the letter, where I posted the letter, I've actually linked some of the various movies that have come out recently.
	We've got the most recent Batman movie, The Sum of All Fears and Black Sunday, I guess.
	And in fact, someone else brought up in an article, I think it was, Oblivion, which was the Tom Cruise movie.
	That's a sci-fi movie that came out recently where a big event had happened to do with the Super Bowl.
	and that that particular arena, there was an arena on the sci-fi movie that actually is configured very similar to the MetLife New Jersey arena.
	So these are things that we look at.
	I, for one, have a remote viewer that I was working with investigating Sandy Hook, and we were looking to the future to see where the next event would happen.
	We were seeing it happening on Wall Street in New York.
	And interestingly enough, the Jack Ryan movie, the new Jack Ryan movie, if you have seen it recently, actually depicts just that, a terrorist event on Wall Street.
	and it has the same ending as the Batman thing where they fly the thing, where the thing gets pushed off, in this case pushed off, into the harbor and then detonates in the water.
	Very similar to the Batman thing except that that was flown off.
	So, Paladin, any other sort of comments that come to mind about You and I had been talking at length about the letter, obviously, but just so we can move to the Bitcoin, if there's some last-minute things you want to say.
	Well, I think the sort of the strangeness or the unusualness of the whole setting of having it, having it in a, you know, let's start with the basics, having it in a northern city outside, because this is the first time in the almost 50-year history of the Super Bowl.
	So that in and of itself is interesting.
	There are other places that you could have it in the north.
	Now, you could have it in Buffalo, Cleveland, Chicago...
	You know, there are other places who have outside stadiums in the North that would serve the same purpose, you know, and they've been selling it to us like, oh, it's going to be an authentic football game because the weather, you know, is going to be whatever it is, and that's the way football is played in rain or shine, sleet or snow, you know, like this is going to be a good thing.
	There's been a public, there's been a PR campaign to sell it to the public.
	The second thing that to me is interesting is that You know, the whole situation with New York City and the ability of them to handle these kinds of things in the manner in which they've done it before.
	And I think that's got to be concerning.
	And the way these guys describe it, it's very possible that all this stuff happens.
	I mean, the security all of a sudden for the NFL stadiums changed this year for the regular season.
	And they sent letters out to the season ticket holders, and they posted it in the newspapers.
	And the main thing that I can recall was the fact that they were not going to allow women to bring purses in.
	So instead of a purse, you could take in a one-gallon clear plastic bag, a freezer bag, full of whatever you had so they could see through it.
	So this is, and again, you know, to me this is dog training, just like the TSA. I mean, as I've said before, you know, if we let them continue with this, we'll have to go through search, strip searches to get in a grocery store.
	So anyway, the very fact that they started this, they started the awareness, okay, of this in September of this year.
	I mean, come on, we're how many years after 9-11?
	12 years, and now all of a sudden, They're going to decide that they're going to do this with, you know, the NFL is going to do this.
	And of course, if you look at the owners of the NFL, they're all corporate people.
	And you can make the obvious connections to the bankers and everybody else.
	You know, I mean, it's you go down that road and it connects all up.
	And, you know, it's I mean, and I've had several people say this and I made this observation before.
	That it's turning into the gladiator games of the old Roman Empire.
	And that's simply what it is.
	Now, the one thing that I would say that maybe is a point against it not happening is the fact that this is a corporate party for the NFL and all the NFL dignitaries will be there.
	So if this happens, then that means one of two things.
	Either they're going to get clear of it, they've got plans to be safe, or it's, you know, way, way above them.
	But I don't see that as a possibility that they would not know about it because, you know, they made a perimeter there, I don't know, a week ago.
	You know, they started the security operation a week ago And they have not done that in any other Super Bowl that I'm aware of.
	So that in itself, see, that's a control of the area.
	So that's, you know, it's outwardly, it's indicative that they're trying to keep the bad guys out, but at the same time, it also keeps everybody else out.
	So if they're going to do something nefarious, there's nobody there to see it.
	So, you know, it kind of serves two purposes if you want to look at it that way.
	Okay, there's also this thing about the blimp, which is interesting because I really went viral on my own with my contacts sending out to various media people that I know, like Ben Fulford and Sean David Morton and others, saying, you know, please send this out everywhere so that we just cover the bases.
	True or not, might as well be prepared.
	So, I believe most of these people are doing that sort of thing.
	Benjamin Fulford did get back to me and say, That the Pentagon was working on this and that they knew that they were going to have blimps in place to guard against this event.
	But the crazy thing of that statement was that if you read the letter closely, what the guy is really talking about is some kind of poison gas on the ground going out through...
	I guess, vendors of food or whatever it is, and so on.
	In other words, it doesn't, and then putting, building the exploding devices in the buildings themselves.
	This is what the person is saying, that they've already been doing this for, working on this for six years, which also means that they were planning that they would be selected on the sixth year to host the event, obviously.
	It's another 9-11 kind of Building 9 type of thing, Building 7 I mean, where the charges were already put in the building when the thing hit.
	So having a blimp fly overhead really is beside the point.
	But there does seem to be some symbolism associated with this particular arena that has to do with blimps, which is a very interesting sort of side note of it.
	In and of itself, and I believe...
	Okay, I'm getting...
	Okay, this figures that we've lost audio.
	So hold on one moment.
	I have to restart.
	So hold on, let me double check that...
	Okay.
	Okay, so just one minute here.
	Oh, God.
	This is what happens whenever I say or my guest says something really interesting.
	Okay, I think we're back.
	Yeah, I think we're back on now.
	Okay.
	Okay, you're back.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right.
	So I'm going to say this again.
	So the association of the blimp and the fact that Benjamin Fulford said the Pentagon was going to use blimps to alleviate this problem is Okay, you're back.
	Okay, whatever it is.
	We're live again.
	So you can reply to that.
	In other words, the idea here being that most of what's going to happen, most of the planning that's happening is on the ground.
	So prevention, in theory, one would think, has to happen on the ground.
	Now, of course, if they don't want to really prevent it, which is usually what happens in terms of 9-11, they never prevented anything.
	In fact, they didn't scramble any jets.
	They basically were useless when it came to even reacting, let alone preventing.
	And because they wanted it to happen, because they were the perpetrators in the end.
	They were the planners, they were the perpetrators.
	And I think the icing on the cake for that one was, we spend all this money for defense, and we all know what we go through to try to defend our company or keep it, quote unquote, safe.
	Yet nobody, you know, I mean, this was a breakdown in so many different areas, 9-11, I mean.
	We're sure not getting our money's worth, and nobody got fired for this.
	Not one person got fired for their incompetence, and somebody was incompetent.
	If you believe the official story, there was a whole bunch of people that were incompetent everywhere.
	So anyway, now one thing I do want to mention, and I want to remind people if they don't recall this, and maybe they even watched the Super Bowl and forgot about it now, but at the start of the third quarter last year, The New Orleans Superdome lost...
	half of the stadium lost power, lost their lights, and they had to interrupt the Super Bowl for about 35 minutes in the third quarter.
	And, you know...
	That in and of itself is so very strange because of the big, you know, I mean, this is just a big money event for a lot of reasons and a lot of people.
	You know, I forget how much I think a 30-second advertising spot this year costs.
	Four million dollars.
	I mean, they are making money hand over fist.
	They get the big halftime show that lasts for half an hour.
	I mean, you know, they turn a three-hour event into a five-hour marathon, and of course that's because they can sell more time, and it's the Super Bowl, so it's It's a big, big, big moneymaker for them.
	Well, last year they had a blackout and, you know, it's like, okay, I mean, for me, I find that hard to believe that whatever caused it, and I don't know that it was ever made clear what did cause that.
	But, you know, I wonder now at this point if that was maybe some sort of dress rehearsal just to see what the reaction would be.
	Yeah, okay, good point, good point.
	Let's do this.
	Because they had to stop the game.
	They actually stopped the game.
	And then there were some...
	Okay, wait one second here.
	Apparently we've gone...
	We've frozen.
	The screen is frozen again.
	I can tell that much.
	So they've got to be having an issue with hearing you.
	Okay.
	I don't see it moving again.
	So what I'm going to have to do if we have frozen, then...
	No problem, somebody says.
	I can see the screen is frozen, though.
	Can you guys hear me?
	Someone says I'm fine.
	All right, well, if you can hear, is the audio okay?
	I'm going to ask again if someone would reply in the chat.
	The audio is okay.
	The video may be frozen, but the audio is okay.
	Some people can hear.
	Some people can't.
	Oh, God.
	Wow.
	Okay, let me just stop and start this again and we'll see where we go.
	Okay, so hold on one minute.
	Alright, sorry about this everyone.
	Paladin was talking about a dress rehearsal, possible lights out that happened, well an actual lights out that happened.
	What was that?
	Was that a year ago or was that a while ago?
	Yeah, that was last year's Super Bowl in New Orleans.
	Okay.
	At the beginning of the third quarter, Half the stadium, the lights went out.
	And part of that affected some of the broadcast booths and the television stuff.
	So, you know, you could look at it and say, well, maybe it was a dress rehearsal because I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that it knocked out some of the communications.
	The power outage for the TV trucks and I know the TV broadcast People in the booths, their screens went blank.
	So it affected parts of the stadium, and it ruins my mind it was about maybe half of the stadium.
	And so they stopped the game for 35 minutes, and it was kind of strange, very strange.
	Okay.
	All right.
	At this point, I think we need to move to Bitcoins.
	Sorry about this that we've gone...
	But obviously, this letter just came in.
	I was out of town, so I got it later than most of the alternative press did.
	And I just do my job.
	I put it out there.
	You know, I'm not making a comment on whether it's true or false.
	That's not my place to do.
	And, you know, I just simply...
	Evaluate what I get and decide whether it goes public or not.
	And then once you have it, it's in the hands of the public.
	They have to decide what to do with it.
	So it has gone viral with my help and with the help of many other alternative news outlets.
	So maybe this will prevent something.
	We really don't know whether this is a misdirect, whether something else is being planned for some other place.
	The idea here being is that people are awake and aware.
	They are, you know, They're aware that their so-called governments are actually out to get them and are not necessarily there for their benefit.
	And we're talking about the highest levels of the Illuminati and above that.
	And we understand that individual politicians and people in law enforcement and that there are white hats in every walk of life, so to speak, people that are are working on behalf of the public and for freedom and liberty and all the things that we at least believed we should have here in the United States often thought we had.
	Maybe we never had the real thing as much as we hoped we had.
	And that gets down to the Bitcoin discussion because when all is said and done it all comes down to money and the idea that when we're born into this world, if you listen to Jordan Maxwell's work, you will already know that we come in with a price on our heads, so to speak.
	And Paladin, so you want to kick this thing off and go right ahead.
	Just on cue, we just got thrown off here, so I don't know if people can hear us or not.
	We just lost Paladin.
	Crazy.
	Okay, so you can hear me, but we have lost Paladin.
	So I'm, you know, obviously that transition, he is being messed with right now.
	We are dialing him.
	Hopefully this is going to connect.
	Now, if worse comes to worse, I will call him on the phone and see what we do there.
	But we will...
	We will continue this conference regardless of the interference.
	You know, this has been an interesting phenomenon, I guess is what it is right now.
	I think the first salvo, first shot fired was Sunday.
	And when they arrested some Bitcoin exchanger, guy that's associated with Bitcoin, charging with money laundering, and tied it to the Silk Road website, which I'm not real familiar with that.
	But Silk Road was a website that supposedly sold black market stuff.
	And they shut them down.
	And I guess some of that stuff was black market drugs.
	Anyway, the hypocrisy of all of it is just mind-boggling.
	The marijuana brownies, you're going to call that, you know, I mean, this is kind of absurd.
	This is not, you know, money laundering.
	Well, yeah, and so I think the way they made that connection, and believe me, I'm going way out on a limb here because I don't know much about it other than what was in the paper.
	It said that it was, that there had to be, the Silk Road people, I think, were buying Bitcoins and because They had been considered criminals because they shut their website down because they were selling black market stuff that they weren't supposed to be selling according to the feds.
	So therefore, any of their money that they would have made would be considered ill-gotten gains, so to speak, and so if you did anything with that money under the money laundering laws, it would be a violation.
	So I think that's how they made the connection and made the arrest.
	You know, what was interesting to me was the headline had Bitcoin in it, as if Bitcoin was the reason for the money laundering, okay?
	And we see money laundering all the time, okay?
	And it never says, you know, U.S. dollar money laundering, or Japanese yen money laundering, or Great Britain, British pound money laundering.
	It's always money laundering, just money laundering.
	When you see it in the headline, because, you know, a lot of people don't, you know, they look at the headlines.
	I mean, people, if they go to a web page, they open up a newspaper, they're going to see, they're going to look at every headline on there.
	Okay?
	Now, and they're going to read the articles that are interesting to them, that gain their interest.
	So if they don't even read the article, by seeing that headline, they are going to basically have a negative connotation about Bitcoin.
	Mission accomplished.
	Right.
	Because the money laundering, the main thing there, if there's a crime committed, it's money laundering.
	It's not Bitcoin.
	It has nothing to do with Bitcoin.
	You can money launder in every currency in the world, and it's still money laundering, okay?
	So this is just another situation.
	So anyway, that to me confirmed it.
	Although when Greenspan came out in November and made his comments, That confirmed it.
	But I mean, this is now the first salvo in the war.
	And I think, you know, this is direct competition to the fiat dollar.
	This is direct competition to every currency in the world.
	And I think that's what's significant about it.
	As I said in that article, they did a review in Washington.
	There wasn't a whole lot of information that came out of there.
	But I think what it included is because of the nature of its digital currency, as opposed to a hard currency, that it wasn't in violation of any existing U.S. laws.
	Notice I say existing laws.
	Alright?
	That could change.
	And I think the reason is because of the nature that it's digital currency.
	It's not actually, you know, nickels and dimes and quarters and dollar bills.
	So I think that's what it is.
	So if the bankers are going to attack this, they're going to have to come up with a different tactic.
	And maybe it's a good segue into what money is.
	And I don't know whether I should start with an example of what real money is, currency is, versus what we have, or start with what we have.
	And then tell you what it should be.
	Well, I think, you know, your explanation to me, like starting at the beginning in terms of what money is versus the fiat and what we've got.
	That's the beginning and then we can go from there.
	Okay.
	And I remember having this in my finance class in college and it was, you know, put yourself back, you know, 10,000 years.
	And there's no banks, there's no money, and all this kind of stuff, and there's a story of the blacksmith, and this could have been historically what happened.
	But anyway, you've got a blacksmith and a farmer, and the farmer needs to get his horses, he needs to get shoes on his horses, the blacksmith needs food, but the blacksmith actually needs more food So they have to create some sort of a medium so that the blacksmith can pay for the food.
	And so in this story, in the college book, in the finance book I had, they used shells.
	I think they were conch shells that they used for money and everything was valued basically on that.
	In other words, a strict comparison to what certain things were worth.
	And of course over time in history that evolved.
	I think they used to use grain, a bag of grain, but typically the most common thing was gold pieces.
	And in this story what happens was the golds, the blacksmith, interestingly enough, in this little lesson we had, the blacksmith actually took deposits, he like became the first banker, he took deposits of gold And they had some sort of evaluation of what the gold was worth and he gave conch shells for that.
	So he became kind of the first depository.
	But that's how money started.
	And all it is is a way for us to transfer something of value like an asset or our labor or anything of that into a common denominator, if you will, a common thing so that we can We can create commerce.
	We can have commerce.
	We can transact commerce.
	And we all have the common things.
	And that's it simply.
	That's it simply.
	It doesn't go any further than that.
	It's a simple concept.
	And that's what Bitcoin is.
	Now, when we look at the U.S. dollar, I think there's a lot of things that we've got to consider.
	And I think we've been trained from birth to view it as it's cash and You know, it's real money, and in actuality, what it is, it's a note, it's a debt.
	And if you don't believe that, take out a dollar bill, or a 5, or a 10, or a 20, and look at it, and it will say on there, Federal Reserve notes.
	And the note denotes a debt.
	So now, the Federal Reserve and the IRS were created in 1913, and that's not a coincidence.
	And the dollars...
	that are issued are controlled by the Federal Reserve.
	The Federal Reserve tells the Treasury you will issue X amount of dollars and they get issued.
	Now the Federal Reserve is a private corporation.
	They're not part of the government.
	They are made up of member banks and the shareholders of those member banks.
	And what they do is they tell the U.S. how many dollars they're going to have in circulation and they also just Determine what interest rate the U.S. is going to pay for those dollars.
	So basically what it is, is the Federal Reserve loans money that they don't even have to the United States and they charge them interest on that money that they loan them.
	So that's why that dollar bill is not really cash, it's a note.
	And attached to that note is a debt, an interest.
	And so every time there's dollar bills put into circulation, whether they're put into circulation in hard money or whether they're done digitally, which the majority at this point are done digitally, there is an interest rate on that.
	And that interest rate is what we as citizens pay.
	So you have to look at it this way.
	It's a loan from the Federal Reserve to the citizens of the United States So they're loaning us the medium to transact business with.
	So that's a real difficult concept for people to grasp.
	But in addition to that, what the United States does then in turn is puts us all up as collateral for that loan.
	Think of a loan you get on your house.
	Your house is put up on collateral.
	You don't pay the loan they get you.
	They come and get your house.
	You go get a car loan, your car is collateral.
	You don't make payments on the car, they come and repo your car.
	So our labor is pledged for the United States government in the borrowing of money from the Federal Reserve by our government in the form of our Social Security numbers.
	So we are in all our life, we work to pay off that Interest on the debt.
	Now, this can be confirmed by the Grace Commission report that was ordered by Ronald Reagan, and it was for the purpose of the Congress to study the functions of the government and see if they could make it run more efficiently.
	They could cite problems and save money.
	The thing of it is, one of the things that they found out, and I looked this up today and I'll quote this to you, 100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the federal debt and federal government contributions to transfer payments.
	In other words, all individual income tax revenue is gone before one nickel is spent on the services That taxpayers expect from the government.
	So what this means is that all of our income tax, federal income tax, is used to pay off the debt.
	And that debt is something that we did not agree to.
	We didn't sign off on the paperwork.
	We didn't negotiate the interest rates, nor did we negotiate the terms of that debt.
	It is just dumped on us.
	And we pay it back in the form of interest.
	And we pay the interest basically to the Federal Reserve through the Internal Revenue Service.
	So this is what our currency is.
	If you want to call it currency, it's really not actually currency.
	It's debt.
	It's notes.
	So we've been trained from birth that it's cash, when in essence it's not cash, it's debt.
	So all we're doing is just paying things off, or we're trading around debt.
	That's what it is, basically.
	So the bitcoins is a true currency from the standpoint that it doesn't have any debt associated with it.
	It is just simply you take your dollars and you know it's simply the transaction that you do to start it to get to acquire bitcoins is similar to you know when you go on vacation and you go to Mexico and you're going to be down there for a week so you need to exchange your So you can buy things locally and then at the end of the time, you change your pesos back to dollars and go home.
	Well, this is Bitcoin.
	What you do is you just buy Bitcoins and then you use those Bitcoins to buy things and then when you're finished, if you have any Bitcoins left, you can turn it back into dollars or whatever and it's just strictly a medium of exchange.
	There's no interest rate attached to it.
	There's nothing else attached to it.
	Now, you know, when people talk about Bitcoin, they want to compare it To the US dollar and there is not a comparison because it's not the same thing.
	It's comparing apples to oranges.
	And I want to read something here that I found in Investopedia about fiat money so people understand what fiat money is.
	It's not backed by anything.
	It's declared by a government to be the legal tender.
	So the government says you're going to use this as legal tender and we don't have any choice.
	But it's not backed by any physical commodity.
	It's based solely on faith.
	And they used to say that the US dollar was based on the full faith and credit of the United States government, which I'm not sure how many people get comfortable with that.
	So that's what our dollar is based on.
	And so I think we have to understand that the Bitcoin Is a direct threat to the dollar, to the fiat money system.
	And we're seeing the results of that war now because, you know, I've been discussing this with my colleagues and we've been trying to figure out how they're going to handle it, provided it wasn't something that they created.
	And, you know, as I put in our article today that there was some concern that possibly it could be It could be Cabal's way of testing out the cashless society or setting us up to the cashless society because it's basically cashless.
	And I didn't believe that because of the characteristics.
	It was so different from the U.S. dollar.
	So I think when Greenspan came out for me and made his little quotes for the newspaper or whatever, the reporter, and I tried to find that To see if he actually got up in front of somebody and made a speech or was interviewed and I haven't been able to find it.
	But basically, if you're going to trot him out and have him talk about it, then to me that tells me that they're trying to discredit the whole situation.
	And then we have this follow-up with this arrest.
	And the money laundering and the Silk Road thing, those are the perpetrators or those are the people who are involved, yet Bitcoin is what's made prominent from the whole situation.
	So even if you didn't read that article, if you just saw the headline, you would come away from that thinking negatively about Bitcoin.
	And I want to find that That interview with Mr.
	Bubble himself, Greenspan, because he said some things that I think are very, very interesting and I'm sure that people didn't grasp what he was saying, but it almost sounds like he's confused about the whole thing because he was talking about intrinsic value and I looked up in Investopedia and it says most paper currencies, our fiat currencies, have no intrinsic value and are used solely as a means of payment.
	Well, that's describing the U.S. dollar.
	It has no intrinsic value.
	Greenspan, basically, in his article, was questioning the intrinsic value of Bitcoin.
	We can question the intrinsic value of the dollar.
	We throw it back on him and say, What's the intrinsic value of a dollar?
	Well, there isn't anything because it's not backed by anything.
	And then he talks about repaying it.
	He doesn't understand how you're going to repay it.
	Well, you don't repay it, Mr.
	Bubblehead, because it's not a debt like the dollar is.
	So I finally muddled through all that so I could get this article up.
	This is what he says.
	It's a bubble.
	It has to have intrinsic value.
	You have to really stretch your imagination to infer what the intrinsic value of Bitcoin is.
	I haven't been able to do it.
	Maybe somebody else can.
	Okay, can you put the link into the chat here in Skype and then I can transfer it onto our chat so that people can go there and look at that.
	Okay.
	So then he goes on to say that I do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming from.
	And here again, you know, I don't understand where the backing of the dollar is coming from, too.
	There is no fundamental issue of capabilities of repaying it in anything which is universally acceptable.
	Now, there's nothing to repay.
	Now, he's talking about it as if it's a debt, like the US dollar, but it's not a debt.
	There is no fundamental issue of capabilities of repaying it in anything which is universally acceptable.
	And he goes on to say, which is either intrinsic value of the currency or the credit, and there's the debt word again, credit, or trust of the individual who is issuing the money, whether it's a government or an individual.
	And that's his little ditty on it.
	And of course, I haven't seen the interview, so I don't know if it's real or not.
	Now, the next to last paragraph I found was very interesting.
	Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke told the Senate committee, the U.S. Central Bank has no plans to regulate the currency.
	Now, by that statement, that infers that, yeah, that infers That the US central bank has the ability and the authority to do it.
	And then it goes on and cites a quote from Bernanke that completely contradicts what they just said.
	Because Bernanke says, although the Federal Reserve generally monitors developments in virtual currencies and other payment system innovation, it does not necessarily have authority directly supervise or regulate these innovations or the entities that provide them to the market.
	And what did the sentence above that says?
	It says he told the Senate committee the central bank has no plans to regulate it.
	And then they quote him and he says they can't do it because they don't have any authority.
	So there's definitely a, you know, we've brought the mainstream media now full on against it and they're attacking the Bitcoin directly now because I don't think there's any way that they can get inside it.
	That's the best way to do it.
	Now, one more thing I want to say, and then we can discuss it.
	Because of the limitation on the amount of Bitcoins, and I think it says in there there's 12 million in circulation, the value or the cost of a Bitcoin, is what it amounts to, is going up because it's a simple supply and demand situation where the demand has basically Exceeded the supply, and that has driven the cost of a Bitcoin to go up.
	Not the value of a Bitcoin, but the cost of a Bitcoin, okay?
	Now, if you contrast that with the Federal Reserve, the Federal Reserve will print money, you know, I mean, it's just literally out of thin air, and it's not tied to anything.
	So whenever it does print money like that, and it doesn't hold Hold the money in circulation, you know, both in dollars and paper and in digits.
	And what it does is it means inflation.
	And the best example I can get is, you know, back in 1970 you could buy eggs for 50 cents a dozen.
	Today they cost $2.50 or $3 a dozen, okay?
	So now you're never going to convince me or probably a majority of the people That the value of a dozen eggs has increased six or seven-fold since 1970.
	There's no shortage of chickens that I'm aware of, you know, so there's nothing economically that would make this different.
	But what makes the price different, you know, because they say, well, and when they give you these little things about, well, this cost in 1970, in 1970 dollars it cost this, Basically, they're comparing apples to apples.
	Well, the problem is, is that there is no, that would indicate that there is value that's been created in those eggs, and that's why they cost six times as much as what they cost in 1970.
	And the reason that they cost that much, they will tell you it's inflation.
	Well, it's actually the interest that we pay on the money that we use.
	That's what the difference is, okay?
	Now, you'll never convince me and most people that We are not more productive, we are not more efficient, and we are not doing things smarter and better and faster than we were in 1970.
	And there's no efficiency, there's no gain in efficiency that's recognized in any of our products.
	As a matter of fact, it costs, it's more difficult now to pay for things than what it was 40 years ago when they were cheaper.
	And we got less and we were only making $3 an hour.
	So, you know, I think that we all have to understand that we're slaves to this current financial situation that we're under and that Bitcoin presents a very, very big threat to the status quo because if everybody starts using Bitcoin,
	the dollar collapses from the standpoint that anybody that has the dollar collapses, anybody that controls the dollar collapses, and they do not have The ability to control all the markets, all the financial markets, all the interest rates, all those kinds of things that they do today.
	Okay, but we're talking worldwide as well, aren't we?
	Oh yeah, of course.
	Bitcoin has no borders.
	Right.
	So the other currencies also will not be able to stand up because they are issued as fiat in most cases.
	Is this true also of the ones that are backed by gold, the Chinese supposedly saying that they're backing their currency with gold?
	Well, I'm not sure that they have said that and they've indicated that.
	I'm not sure that they've done that yet.
	But I think the key thing here for everybody to remember is that The Bitcoin is essentially, for all intents and purposes, a true, clean, clear, unimpeded, uncontrolled market where the cost of a Bitcoin is dictated by the market.
	It's not dictated by the central bank who has a vested interest in it.
	It's not dictated by the central bank Who has the ability to determine how many are out there.
	It doesn't have the ability to determine an interest rate because it's not a debt, so there's no interest rate of tax.
	So it is a definite threat to the existing financial systems that we have.
	And guess what?
	If Bitcoin becomes the currency for the US or any place, And the current currency, like for example, in the US, if this took the place of the dollar, needless to say, we wouldn't have to pay income taxes.
	Really?
	Well, yeah, because as I said, the Grace Commission indicated that 100% of our income taxes go to pay the debt The interest on the debt of the money that's issued in the United States, the money that we're using.
	And there's no interest associated with this.
	We're not borrowing bitcoins to use them.
	We're not getting charged interest to use them.
	It's true cash.
	It's true currency.
	Okay, and what you said was it's a true method of exchange, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, because I think that's very concise.
	Yeah, because it doesn't include interest.
	It's not a debt.
	It doesn't have all these other things attached to it.
	Okay, so where should we go from here?
	Because I can also ask the people in the chat.
	To go ahead and put their questions in all caps, so we can go from there with them.
	But in terms of where you want to take this, because I also wanted to bring out this, and I did post the link already in the chat, So people could look at the article.
	But there's basically two bankers who died in very mysterious ways in London just a day or so ago.
	Bankers from J.P. Morgan.
	One jumped off a building supposedly in London and the other one, I think he hung himself or something.
	I'm not sure.
	Something dreadful.
	But the bottom line is that they were top executives at J.P. Morgan.
	And this is an Illuminati hit style, no doubt about it in my mind.
	And this may weigh in on where we're at in terms of the overall economic situation.
	But do you want to comment?
	Well, I think it's interesting that And of course, I need proof.
	I know you're ready to call it what it is, probably, but I need proof to know.
	But anyway, it's actually one of the guys, the younger guy who supposedly jumped off the building was a J.P. Morgan guy, and he was only 39.
	So that's kind of strange.
	And he was supposedly well-off, well-to-do.
	He had a good job.
	He obviously probably made a good salary.
	So that's kind of strange.
	The other guy was actually not with JP Morgan.
	He was with Deutsche Bank, I believe.
	And he was 20 years older.
	And I think he had already retired.
	And he hung himself, supposedly.
	So, you know, again, I'm not one that believes in coincidences.
	It was over the same weekend.
	It was in London.
	And throwing yourself off a building, I mean, I don't know.
	If you're going to do something like that and choose to take your life, it seems like there would be a lot more...
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't know if there's a preferred method over the other, but that just doesn't seem like that would be the first thing that would come to mind.
	Or hanging.
	It seems like there would be a few other things that might be quicker and less painful if you're going to actually do something like that.
	So...
	Well, it's, you know, City of London, obviously, one of the Illuminati centers, very interesting sort of, why two in one place as well?
	Yeah, I agree.
	I mean, usually if you sit there and you say, oh, it's a coincidence, well, that's when it typically isn't a coincidence.
	I mean, you know, 9-11 was just a series of coincidences.
	Yeah, right.
	You know, meaning the first time this has ever happened and all these first, first, first happened to happen all at the same day, you know, to create the perfect storm.
	Okay, back to Bitcoin.
	In terms of where we're at though, because we've got a challenge to their monetary system, right?
	It's a definite challenge.
	Now they're arresting somebody.
	The headline is, is misdirecting people to reject Bitcoin or think that Bitcoin is now going to be a questionable Currency or whatever you want to call it.
	And I think no one understands this idea of fiat versus a method of exchange.
	You're the only people that I've heard speak very clearly about that.
	And I don't know if you want to address the issue of hoarding because in essence there is a very strong part of the use of fiat currency that involves What I call hoarding and, in essence, other people call savings.
	In other words, gathering huge amounts of this and that you actually said that that would be counterproductive in the Bitcoin case, but that people are starting to do it.
	So, do you want to talk about that at all?
	Yeah, I think the issue with the Bitcoin is the cost of it continues to go up.
	I think it's...
	I don't know what it is now.
	I think it went up to $1,200 and now I think it's down to...
	Maybe 900 or 700 or something like that.
	And that is a function of the value in terms of the popularity of using it.
	The more vendors and the more places like Overstock.com and they're just announced two casinos in Vegas are now accepting it.
	Not in the casino, but to pay for rooms and to pay for other services.
	The more and more prevalent it becomes, where people are willing to accept it as a payment, the more prevalent it will become, the more valuable it will become in that sense.
	And what Bitcoin has to do is they have to start issuing more to keep up with that demand.
	Because if you look at it, the dollar over time, because they keep Issuing more and more and more and more, it creates inflation, okay?
	And you can look at Bitcoin as creating deflation because the value of what you're buying power of a Bitcoin continues to go up.
	So the reflection of the efficiencies, the increases, the popularity of it is reflected in the cost of it, okay?
	Where the US dollar is exactly the opposite.
	I mean, we've never had a year in my Lifetime, and probably in the whole lifetime in the Federal Reserve, where we've had deflation.
	It's always been inflation, okay?
	And that is a result of the constant money printing of the dollar.
	So what Bitcoin needs to do, in my opinion, to keep that price down, is to keep it reasonable, is they need to issue more Bitcoins as it becomes more and more popular.
	And think about it for a minute.
	If Bitcoin, let's say, would take the place of all the currencies in the world, how much value in terms of, you know, for example, how many dollars are out there?
	Quadrillion, you know, a billion quadrillions, a trillion.
	You know, come up with a number and that's, you know, similar to the amount of Bitcoins that would need to be produced and need to be in circulation for it to be comparable.
	So 12 million bitcoins is not very much in the whole scheme of things.
	So as it becomes more and more popular and people use it more, if they don't issue more bitcoins, then the cost of it is going to continue to go up because the value of its usability, the value of its popularity will be basically reflected in the price.
	And if we wouldn't be paying interest on our money that is issued and that we use, and I use money, you know, I use that in quotations, the Federal Reserve notes that we basically trade among ourselves, if that didn't have interest, then things, as we got efficient over time and we got more productive over time and we got smarter over time, all those gains would be reflected in the price of goods.
	You'd have the same amount of money, but the price of goods would be cheaper.
	It would be deflationary in their terminology.
	In other words, it would be just the opposite of inflation.
	Where everything keeps going up, everything would keep going down.
	And if they did not issue more Bitcoins, then the value that is created with all of this would be reflected in the cost of the Bitcoins.
	Okay, but it also...
	So they steal value.
	They steal the increase in value.
	They steal the efficiencies that we all create.
	They steal it from us through the interest and the taxes that are attached to that.
	Okay, but what happens if they don't issue more Bitcoins?
	What is our circumstance then?
	And isn't it sort of starting already to become kind of a...
	I don't know, something that only people with a certain amount of money can afford?
	Well, I think what they probably will do, and this is for the practicality of it, I think if they do not increase the amount of Bitcoins in their circulation, then what they will do is they will start breaking the Bitcoins up into decimals.
	into you know half bitcoins and quarter bitcoins or something like that because it's not feasible if they want this to become popular and be used it's not feasible for example today to buy one bitcoin and if you could use it everywhere it's not going to be feasible for you to go to the grocery store and give them a set you know give them $700 and get change back so what I'm saying is they would have to If they don't increase the amount of Bitcoins in circulation,
	then they would have to go to fractional Bitcoins so that they would be usable.
	And I think you and I were talking the other day and I said, you know, this will hit critical mass when employers start paying their employees in Bitcoins.
	When that happens, I think the Cabal and the Federal Reserve and the dollar and all the other fiat currencies are toast.
	And this is a fiat currency.
	Don't misunderstand that.
	I'm not saying it's not a fiat currency.
	But it's a method of exchange.
	That's all it is.
	It's a method of exchange.
	Now, people like to talk about the value of it like it's an investment.
	And so if you buy it and you sit on it and you don't use it as a method of exchange, you term it an investment, then that basically takes down the total number of Bitcoins In this case, in circulation.
	In other words, there's 12 million in circulation, but if 2 million of them are being held for an investment or appreciation or whatever you want to look at it, then you've only got actually 10 million in circulation to transact commerce, if that makes any sense.
	Okay, but again, you know, we sort of get back to the hoarding aspect of it, and I'm not sure where we also talk, I mean, the issue with the stock market, whether the stock market is viable if you use Bitcoin, you know.
	And the currency markets, in essence, it sounds like...
	Now, I don't know if this is true, but the currency markets would go away.
	But on the other hand, there are other versions of electronic digital currency that are coming to the fore.
	I sent you a list of some before the show, right?
	Yeah, and I think that the characteristics of...
	And this is not...
	The reason we're talking about Bitcoins is because that seems to be the one of all of those that you sent me that link for.
	That seems to be the most prominent one, the most talked about one, and the most used one.
	And obviously it's now on the radar as far as the Federal Reserve and the government's concerned.
	So that's the one we're talking about.
	But it really could be any kind of true currency or true medium of exchange where that's strictly all it's used for.
	I mean, we could go into the fact that when you open a bank account and you sign that account agreement, you're basically turning over your money and letting the bank have it, is what it amounts to.
	Now, what they do with it, and this is another way that they make money off the money that they charge us to rent, and that's basically what we're doing.
	We're renting it from them without knowing that we're renting it from them in the form of income taxes.
	But then they take it and they take one dollar.
	We put a dollar in the bank and they take that dollar.
	They multiply it by nine or eight or whatever the fractional thing is now.
	And they loan it out eight or nine times to other people.
	And they charge each one of them interest.
	They pay us a paltry interest rate.
	So they take it and multiply it and leverage it out.
	And you can't do that with Bitcoin.
	That doesn't have that characteristic because it's not a A negotiable financial instrument like a debt is, like a note is.
	A note is a financial instrument.
	If anybody has filled out a balance sheet for a loan, for a car loan or a home loan, you know that your cash in the bank is an asset and any debts, credit card debts, car payment or whatever goes on the other side is a liability.
	In actuality, that cash should go on the liability side because it's a note.
	It's a debt.
	It's not cash.
	It's anything but cash.
	So I think that we're all trained from birth that that dollar we have in our pocket is actually cash, and it's not.
	It's a debt.
	And that's what we don't understand.
	And I don't think people understand that the Federal Reserve is not part of the government.
	It's a conglomeration of bankers.
	Who set rules for themselves so they don't ever lose.
	You know, they're not going to ever lose.
	Okay, so in terms of this discussion, is there anything that we haven't covered or that, you know, related to Bitcoin specifically?
	And then, you know, we can take questions in the audience, obviously.
	And if you're in there and you can hear...
	Let's see.
	I actually, believe it or not, I have to go on another radio show at 6 o'clock with Mike Harris and Richard Allen Miller.
	So, the Mike Harris radio show.
	So, we have exactly...
	Less than 15 minutes.
	I'm sorry, we did have some interruptions along the way here.
	But, you know, we have gotten to the nitty-gritty of the subject matter.
	Again, if people want to put some questions in the chat quickly, we can try to address those.
	I don't see...
	I don't know if the chat's frozen.
	I don't know what's going on here.
	I don't...
	If you hold on one minute, I'm going to see if we're getting some questions in the chat.
	But meanwhile...
	I just skimmed something.
	Do you know what Russia's reaction has been to the Bitcoin, by the way?
	I think someone posted in the scroll there that they had outlawed or they had done away with Bitcoin.
	Okay, and China was also putting up some kind of barrier to Bitcoin recently, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Now, so what does that tell you the trend is?
	At least the Illuminati trend.
	Yeah, I mean, because see, they don't have control over it.
	And see, it shouldn't be controlled.
	It should be a strict market-oriented, market-driven situation because, as I say, if it is, then the natural order of things in the way of increasing production and efficiencies and all the technology and all that stuff It would go back to the people who created it.
	And the way it's set up now, the Federal Reserve, the bankers take it from us.
	I mean, they just take it.
	I mean, we pay taxes.
	Our whole lives, we pay off this debt.
	And of course, Washington, they don't care how much they spend because it's like they continue to increase the credit line on the credit card But they're not the ones who make the payments on it.
	We are.
	We're the ones who have to make the payment.
	And then you've got the Federal Reserve who basically gets this money for free.
	It doesn't cost them a dime and they're charging them, all of us, for it.
	So it's a way that they control the system and it's the way they steal our wealth.
	They take our wealth.
	So when you consider that all of our federal income taxes go to pay the interest on the debt, then where do they get the rest of the money to operate the government?
	Okay.
	Sorry about that.
	Okay, so...
	Okay.
	And, you know, I think it's the Constitution that says that Congress is the only one that has the authority to do that, and they've given that authority away to the Federal Reserve.
	And, of course, if you read The Creature of Jekyll Island, you'll get the whole, the way that was all done.
	You know, in the dead of the night over a Christmas recess when nobody was there and they snuck it through and got it through.
	So, I mean, you know, if you go back and you study the history of the Federal Reserve Act and also the IRS, the creation of the Internal Revenue Service, you know, it's all there.
	I mean, it all ties together.
	Okay, well, someone here said in the chat that Russia is claiming you can buy a tenth of a Bitcoin.
	I don't know.
	If that's true.
	Someone wants to ask you, how do we know that the government will never take over the Bitcoin?
	Well, I don't think the prospect of the government is what we should be concerned about.
	I think it's the prospect of the bankers taking over the Bitcoin.
	And like I say, I don't think that's possible at this point in time because of the fact that it's a free market system.
	It's not controlled in the way that the dollars are controlled, you know, because it doesn't have interest rates attached to it.
	It doesn't have taxes to be paid on it.
	It's not that way.
	And I don't understand, I mean, I'll be honest, I don't understand from the computer standpoint, the transaction standpoint, I think they use I'm talking strictly about the fundamentals of a currency,
	and Bitcoin is a good example of a pure, fundamental currency that is used strictly for the exchange Of business, to transact business.
	It's not used to charge people interest on the amount of bitcoins out there.
	There's no interest to be paid.
	People don't have to pay a VIG on the use of the bitcoins or how many are in circulation.
	So you're saying they're not able to change that.
	Is that what you understand?
	I mean, in other words, I don't understand it either, but obviously it wouldn't be appealing to the Illuminati to even mess with Bitcoin if they can't put in a debt.
	Right.
	The characteristics and the fundamentals of the Bitcoin do not lend themselves to the possibility of anybody that has Control over the Bitcoins, if you want to even call it control, because it's a strictly free market system.
	The value or the cost of a Bitcoin goes up because of the popularity of it and the more people that use it, the more vendors that are willing to accept it and the more people who are willing to buy it to use it to purchase goods with, the more popular it will be and the higher the cost of a Bitcoin will go.
	But we can't take the characteristics of a dollar Or that kind of fiat currency that's controlled by a banker that has a taxed interest to it because it's not actually a medium of exchange, it's a debt, it's a note.
	So the characteristics of a note are different, 100% different.
	They're completely opposite of the characteristics of cash, of just strict, clean, clear, unencumbered money.
	Okay, so what about the idea of it being hacked?
	People ask this all the time.
	That's over my head.
	That's an area that could be done, I suppose.
	But from the little research I've done on that part of it, and Tommy or somebody in that field of expertise could probably comment better on it than I could, it sounds to me like they've done a lot of A lot of work to secure that.
	And at this point, I think they've been using it for close to five years.
	I think they kind of announced it in 2008 and then actually put it into circulation, if you will, in 2009.
	And at this point, I don't think yet it's been hacked to the point where they've had problems.
	And that probably is one definite way that they could attack it.
	But that's the only way.
	Taking it over doesn't make any sense because if you're the guy who started Bitcoins, you're not collecting any taxes from the people who use Bitcoins.
	In other words, when you buy a Bitcoin, you buy it straight out.
	You don't have to pay a commission on it or you don't have to pay extra on it to the person that you're buying it from.
	You just buy it and you own it and there's no debt or tax to it.
	You don't pay it back.
	So that's the difference in it.
	So for them to take it over, I think what they really want to do is take it down.
	I think they just want to do away with it.
	So this is what it looks like.
	I mean, you have Greenspan come out and he basically dogs it and calls it a bubble and can't understand.
	Basically the understanding that Greenspan was talking about not understanding Bitcoin in essence, which is actually kind of musing.
	I think maybe that was a con.
	You know, for a guy like him to not understand it.
	He knows the difference between what the real U.S. dollar is, debt-issued currency.
	And Vandy Bell, I see your question there.
	Yes, they could.
	Well, I don't know that they could take it over, but if they took it over and they started taxing it, then that would change the nature and the basic fundamentals of what the Bitcoin is.
	So it wouldn't be a Bitcoin anymore.
	It would be It would be like the US dollar.
	That's the point and the distinction I was trying to make between the basic fundamentals and characteristics of Bitcoin versus the basic fundamentals and characteristics of a dollar.
	Okay, but someone else is saying, should we invest in Bitcoins?
	And again, I think people get the wrong idea.
	Investing is actually not what you use it for.
	You actually, at least in the current way things are, your advice, if I understand it, because I've asked Paladin the same question, the bottom line is, It's a method of exchange.
	It's not for hoarding.
	It's not for savings.
	It's actually you transact business with it and then you actually get out of it right away and transfer at least into other currencies because it's not hoardable.
	It's not really geared that way, right?
	Right now, you can't physically take it with you to the grocery store or anywhere else to pay for goods.
	So therefore, it's limited as far as its use goes.
	But the key to that is that the more people, the more vendors or the more merchants who are willing to accept it, the more prevalent that it's going to become, and that could evolve into something bigger.
	And as I said, I think critical mass would be reached if the employers would then start paying their people, because then you've got a source.
	Then it's a source.
	Then that completes the whole loop.
	Okay, but I also, before we leave the air here, and I am going to have to go on to this radio show, which is Rents Radio and Mike Harris' show with Richard Allen Miller, in which we're going to kind of continue this discussion about the false flag part of things at any rate, not Bitcoin.
	But I wanted to say is that I thought one of the key things that you said to me is that This is very interesting because, in essence, what it allows us to do as people is bypass the Illuminati, bypass their banking system completely, even temporarily.
	And that's one of the key aspects of it.
	And it's an interesting way of fighting this war, you know, for freedom, in essence.
	Would you agree?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, you know, this...
	As I said, I think I said to you in private conversations, this is a way that the cabal could be defeated without firing a shot, without making an arrest, without exposing anything.
	This could put them out of business overnight.
	And they are concerned about it.
	I mean, it's apparent to me that they are very, very concerned about it because they don't have control over it.
	And that's what's bothering them because as long as they have control over the financial system They have control over us and everything about our life.
	There you go.
	And I think that's the key.
	If you take nothing away from this discussion, I think that's key.
	Yeah.
	And see, they know that down the road.
	See, they're aware of that.
	They are fully cognizant of the fact that if this thing keeps going and it gets legs and it does reach critical mass, they're toast.
	They're out of business.
	Those dollars are, you know, you might as well use them for wallpaper because they're worthless, because they have no value because nobody's using them.
	And that's what they're concerned about.
	So it is one of the ways, one of the ways that the people can actually fight back.
	Here's an interesting statement in the chat and maybe we can address this or you can.
	It's electronic and if electronics go down, Bitcoin goes down?
	Well, yeah, I mean, because it's a virtual currency, so it's, you know, and, you know, these guys are ingenious when they created this because, number one, it doesn't violate any U.S. laws because it's not a hard currency that you can put in your hand and you can feel and touch, okay?
	It is a virtual currency, so in that regard, it has the same characteristics of any other kind of currency.
	You can just exchange You know, your currency into euros or Japanese yen or whatever and conduct business and change it back.
	Well, it's the same thing with Bitcoin.
	So as long as Bitcoin keeps, you know, stays in that kind of a situation, it does, it is the cashless, you know, it's a cashless model.
	There's for sure it is.
	But, you know, if we take down the cabal and there's no dollar, something would have to replace it.
	And the Bitcoin, you know, as it stands right now, is an example of a A currency or a medium of exchange that could replace all the currencies in the world.
	Okay, but if we had an EMP and all the electronics went down, this again would be their way of fighting back, right?
	Then we would have to go back to something else?
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, and you know, it depends on, I think the EMP, I think if I'm understanding you correctly, it would shut down the transaction processing Which, in essence, would shut down the Bitcoin because everything's done through the Internet.
	But if it comes back up, if the Internet comes back up, the transaction system.
	And this is, you know, it's interesting you mentioned this.
	I know we've got to hurry, but this is similar to the Fedwire system, the infrastructure that they pick up.
	Okay, very sorry here.
	I'm going to have to let you guys call me back in five minutes, okay?
	I'm sorry, we're going to have to...
	I'll be with you in just five minutes.
	No worries, okay?
	Sorry, yeah, I'm on a live broadcast.
	I have to get off this one to come on yours, okay?
	Okay, I don't know what came through there.
	I just got a phone call.
	I have to go on the other radio show.
	I'm very sorry here, everyone, because we assumed this was going to be a two-hour discussion, and it's right up to the hour, up to the minute.
	We can definitely have Paladin back.
	He's an invaluable source to me.
	He's very modest.
	Please don't let him lead you the wrong way.
	He's very knowledgeable.
	On all the things that I'm knowledgeable about, and we've been sharing war stories, so to speak, in the fight for freedom and for the people, really since the White Hats kind of hit the ground running, which was how many years ago?
	Was that two years?
	Three years ago.
	Three years ago.
	And their reports are still very valuable.
	They're all there on the White Hat website.
	Isn't that right?
	Yes, yeah, they're still there.
	Okay, and the amount of detail and really getting down the rabbit hole, and I've also written a report for them called Black Projects Follow the Money, which goes deeply into what it really covers, what we're really talking about, which is the underbelly of the beast, so to speak, and the secret space program and where all the money is going to anyway.
	So we're going to have to talk further at another time and we can definitely have Paladin back.
	There's been a great response I can tell you right now from our chat.
	A lot of questions coming through.
	Do you want to give an email address or a way people can reach you?
	He is going to continue to write reports on the website.
	Is there any other way for people to reach you or do you want to hear from people in any way?
	Well, I think they can comment.
	If they want to comment on your On your website, on the articles that get put out there, and I think we can go that way.
	I'd rather not give out the personal information over the airwaters.
	Okay, no problem.
	And we can talk about that at some point, but I value my privacy.
	This whole thing with the social media and everything that's coming out there is just to me and my business falling.
	I mean, I don't know why anybody wants to put their own personal information out there.
	And it's a matter of preference and that's okay.
	If people want to do it, that's fine.
	If people don't want to do it, that's also fine.
	So, you know, I know how some operations work and so I'm just always skeptical about certain things and I'd rather be sort of in control of the first contact as opposed to just kind of open it up for anybody.
	Okay, fair enough.
	So I want to thank Paladin very much for coming on the show, and thank you everyone for listening.
	We'll do this again.
	Great response, and there's a lot more to talk about in the future.
	So stay tuned and I'm moving on to Mike Harris' radio show where they're waiting for me right now.
	And I hope everyone, anyone can listen.
	This is going on to YouTube.
	I will edit it tonight just to get rid of the breaks between things.
	Put it all into one file.
	It'll go on to YouTube.
	Should be there by the morning.
	So if you weren't able to catch all the audio, it is good on my end and the recording will be a good one.
	I'm pretty sure about that.

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