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July 10, 2013 - Project Camelot

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PROJECT CAMELOT: JIM HUMBLE: CURING MALARIA

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	Crazy times.
	Okay.
	This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and we are about to interview Jim Humble.
	He is the inventor of MMS, Miracle Mineral Supplement, and we are here with one of his partners, Leo, whose last name I can't quite pronounce.
	Could you say your last name, Leo?
	Yes, Kuhhoff.
	Kuhhoff.
	Okay.
	And where are you located right now, Leo?
	In Germany.
	In Germany, okay.
	And whereabouts, Jim Humble, are you able to say where you are?
	What country?
	I'm in Mexico.
	You're in Mexico, okay.
	So what I'd like to do is have you give yourself an introduction, both of you.
	So if you would introduce yourselves.
	Leo, by the way, Let's just say that Jim Humble has been interviewed by Project Camelot in the past.
	Bill Ryan, who used to work with me in Camelot, interviewed him a number of times.
	So those interviews are available on our website and I will make the links available to everyone so that they can go back and review the information that was given at that time.
	The reason we're doing another interview is because there is some groundbreaking information of a study that was done that I believe the Red Cross took part in and now is denying ever happened and we want to get into all of that.
	It has to do with curing malaria And the abilities of this miracle mineral supplement to do so.
	Now, before we start, I guess I do need to say that as a disclaimer, I'm not a doctor and I'm not trying to push any kind of healing remedies here.
	This is simply an inquiry into Jim Humble's work and I am an investigative journalist and so that's what we're going to be doing here today.
	So, without further ado, Jim Humble, can you please introduce yourself, and I will say first and foremost that you were a former aerospace engineer, correct?
	Correct.
	Go right ahead.
	Okay, well, I'm Jim Humble, and I guess my major claim to fame, here now at least, is that I discovered a cure for malaria, While doing prospecting in the jungles of Guyana and South America,
	I was prospecting for gold when several of my helpers came down with malaria and I asked them if they would like to try a health drink from the United States and they said yes they were willing to try it because they were very very sick and so I used I give them some
	drops from the health drink and within hours they were well from malaria something that's never ever happened before and so they After that I traveled through the jungle for about eight months and I treated many people in the jungle for malaria and it was successful about
	60 to 70 percent of the time.
	Later I worked on the formula and I worked on why it worked and I finally Developed it so with malaria, it's been successful almost 100% of the time,
	99.9% of the time at least and the health drink from America at that time was stabilized oxygen.
	Stabilized oxygen has been used in the health food stores for I think we have a cat problem.
	We need to resolve this.
	One moment, please.
	Okay.
	He sounds good on our end, just so you know.
	Okay, what we're going to do, Jim, thank you for that beginning.
	What I'd like to do is come back to all of that and ask you some questions to drill down deeper.
	But first, can we introduce Leo so that people are familiar with who else is involved in this conversation?
	Leo?
	Yes?
	Go right ahead and introduce yourself.
	Yes, Gary, thank you.
	My name is Leo Kuhov, and it's about four years ago that I heard the first time from MMS. And it was two months before I had my first trip to Mozambique, to Africa, and I was pretty amazed about what I wrote in Jim's book about MMS. So when I took contact with the people in Mozambique,
	And they asked them, or they have also malaria.
	And they agreed with that.
	They said, yes, they have a lot of people who die of malaria.
	And so, after I read Jim's book, I took one data MMS with me to Mozambique.
	And I had about 10 days time where I was with some people in the bush.
	And the outback from Mozambique where we gave sick people MMS. And that was the first time that I did my experience with it.
	And I can tell you, I saw daily miracles happen.
	And after I came back to Germany, I didn't understand the world anymore because I saved lives.
	It was the first time in my life that I really had saved lives.
	And it was so easy, and all is so cheap, and it's so simple.
	Everyone can do it.
	And that was for me the beginning of new life, because I couldn't keep my mouth anymore.
	And I started to write down my experience and books.
	And after that, I met Jim Mumble personally.
	And I think through the years we met A few times yearly, and I learned a lot from him.
	I'm very thankful that I came in contact with MMS, that that happens to me.
	Okay, well, thank you for that.
	However, can you explain what is your background?
	Were you a doctor?
	What was your background in terms of what did you do for a living?
	Yes, no, I'm surely not a doctor.
	But in my past years, I did study in classical homeopathy, and that gave me the knowledge about diseases, but I never did something with it.
	My profession as a builder, I was builder engineering, and I did build houses for my whole life.
	Okay, all right, very interesting.
	And so you are here to just as a person giving personal testimony or have you been working with Leo now for a while?
	I didn't understand that, Keri.
	Are you here on the call because you are giving personal testimony or because you also have worked with Leo for a while?
	That is for me, no?
	Or for Jim?
	Do you understand what I'm saying?
	Harry, you just said Leo.
	Yes, I'm asking Leo if he has worked with Jim Hemble because you asked him to come on the call on this live stream and I'm asking what is his purpose here?
	Okay, let me just go and step in for one second.
	Leo was involved with the test that was done in Uganda.
	He was at the site.
	He showed the Red Cross staff how to properly use MMS. And he has translated numerous books of gyms into German and has been selling books in Europe representing a gym in that area.
	Okay, very good.
	Alright, thank you for that.
	So, once again, we'll go back, and I appreciate that, to Jim Humble.
	And Jim, if you could tell us the story of how MMS was...
	Proven as a remedy in Africa prior to your test with the Red Cross, because my understanding, I've used MMS myself, and I find it to be very good in curing the flu, various HMOs.
	There are various viruses and other remedies as well.
	I've been in touch with Andreas Kalker who is also selling MMS. He had to cure other ailments that he had in terms of arthritis.
	Can you also talk about some of that?
	Okay.
	Well, I have had quite a bit of experience with malaria in Africa.
	The first time we checked malaria was when I went to some missionaries in both Uganda and Kenya.
	And each place out in the bush, I went to various different Churches where they had people set up for me and the very first time was back in 2003 and I treated 2,000 malaria cases.
	The one time I went to various different churches and treated a number of them personally In each case, some churches had 100 to 400 people waiting for me who all had malaria when I was there,
	and so I treated them with MMS, of course, and in four hours, most of them were well for malaria, and so it was just a matter of me going from the various different churches.
	And then later I was treating malaria cases in other countries in Africa and so there were quite a few different cases before in different countries including
	the name of the country escapes me right now but anyhow there was about five different countries in in Africa that I treated malaria in and of course I treated malaria in South America and various was quite a few cases over a period of the last Ten years.
	Okay, and weren't you also, at one time, you've had some problems with being asked to leave countries because people apparently don't believe your cures or health organizations are trying to make you leave because they are threatened by your cures?
	Yeah, that's happened to me like in Malawi.
	They accused me of running a malaria cure station without a license.
	I actually didn't have a license, but I wasn't running a station either.
	The local doctor was running a station and he had a license.
	But anyhow, they accused me of that.
	And so it wound out that I had to leave Malawi at that time.
	And then I have been accused in each place I've been of doing it without a license they couldn't prove that I wasn't doing it because I was but they thought it was illegal or I had to have a license when I was at the various different missionaries so it was just one place or another
	and when I was in South America I was told that If I treated one more malaria case, they would put me in their prison and I wouldn't like their prison.
	It just happened to be that in that case, my friend was the next man to the president and when they sent the police after me to put me in jail, Or at least to arrest me.
	I got a message from him saying that I should disappear into the jungle.
	So I did disappear into the jungle at that time.
	So actually, there have been a few cases where they really don't like somebody curing malaria.
	Okay, and is this because this is a big business to the pharmaceutical companies?
	Well, I'm sure it is because the pharmaceutical companies make millions and millions of dollars, I guess hundreds of millions of dollars off of the malaria drugs and of course if a cheap malaria cure comes in,
	my You know, the MMS costs about 25 cents a person, so we could set up and cure most malaria cases in the world for a very, very cheap price.
	They don't want to see anything like that happen, and so I'm sure that's what happened with the Red Cross.
	They don't want to see anything like that happen.
	Absolutely not.
	Alright, so can you begin to tell us about this very specific case with the Red Cross and what happened during the testing?
	Well, as I see it, they had their man there, Klaus Frosman, and he He came to see me in Mexico and he said,
	well, he didn't believe that it worked to cure malaria, but he said what he wanted to do was prove one way or the other whether it would really work or not.
	And so I felt that if he worked with it, that he might see that it worked and he might want to actually use it.
	So I was encouraged that he was there to learn about it.
	And so once he had learned about it and decided he was going to go out and do it in Uganda, he said the Red Cross was behind him, the International Red Cross in the Uganda Red Cross.
	And I thought it was a Good thing that they all wanted to see if it worked, but in retrospect, I'm sure that they believed that it wouldn't work.
	I'm sure that they were absolutely certain that it wouldn't work, because whenever they got out there and started testing it, there was 154 cases of malaria that they proved, you know, by blood tests and all that, and then they give them the dose of MMS, And the next day, there was 154 cases who were cured.
	There was 11 cases that took a couple of doses, but other than that, they were all cured.
	100% of them were cured.
	And then they started telling me that I couldn't report it to the world.
	They said, you can't say anything because we haven't proven that it's harmless, that it don't cause side effects.
	And I kept telling them that, well, It's been tested for 50 years throughout the world and a lot of tests have been done.
	They kept saying, we've got to prove it here and now that there's no side effects.
	They kept doing it.
	One month went by and two months and three and four.
	Five months went by and they still weren't reporting it.
	So I decided that they weren't going to report it, that there was no chance of them reporting it.
	And so I told my people to go ahead and report it, and that's how it went down.
	I don't think that they would have ever reported it, actually.
	And now they're claiming that it never even happened.
	They said there was no test went by.
	We didn't do any testing.
	Nothing happened.
	And of course, Jim Humble is lying, but they haven't said that I'm lying.
	They won't say that.
	I was hoping they would, because then I could sue them.
	But what they said We are distancing ourselves as far as possible from Jim Humble, from the idea that we did a test in the jungle.
	They don't even say they didn't do the test.
	They're distancing themselves from the idea that they did a test.
	They're saying it so you can't catch them in a lie.
	Okay.
	Now, Leo, you were present at the test.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And you saw people being cured?
	Yes.
	In fact, we treated 781 people during four days.
	We only did the documentation about the malaria cases.
	So all the other 600 and more people, they also got MMS. And the amazing point was that a lot of these people came also back the next day to show themselves to the doctor that they were better.
	And a lot of the people were for treating over months in the clinic and no one could help them.
	And no one was of MMS and they were cured.
	And then all the malaria people, it was really surprising for all the clinic people because they never had seen that.
	Yes, they're treating people there over years and they know how sick people are and then we came there, we did the test, we gave the people malaria and then after 24 hours, and that was the first day, On the second day when we started to do the second test of the people who had become the dose MMS the day before.
	And we were all together in that small laboratory and it was really very excited when the nurse was looking through the microscope And then she turned and she said, there's no malaria.
	So we were very happy but it could be, maybe it was a mistake.
	So she took the next blood test and she turned and she said, no malaria.
	And she take the next one, no malaria.
	So all the people there, they were so surprised, they were so happy and we were, all we were happy and laughing and there was so much joy in the small room.
	And it was really great.
	It was really great, all of them.
	Because all of them, they couldn't believe it.
	It was till that moment, it was only our story.
	But from that point, it becomes their own story.
	And that was really nice and to see that all over the days.
	Okay, and this all happened in Uganda.
	Was this in the jungle?
	Was it a city or a small...
	No, no.
	It was a place out of the city in the old back.
	A small town or a small village with the name Luka.
	Yes, it was outside.
	I see.
	And what was the dosage that people were given?
	It was people who had malaria.
	We gave them once, only one dose of 18 drops MMS. The adults and children with malaria, we gave them 8 drops.
	And adults without malaria, 8 drops.
	Children without malaria, 6 drops.
	And babies always 2 drops.
	With malaria or without malaria, they always got 2 drops.
	Okay.
	And let's see, Jim Humble, would you talk about what is MMS? What exactly is it comprised of?
	And why do you think it works?
	Well, basically, MMS is chlorine dioxide.
	Chlorine dioxide is a chemical that's used to purify water throughout the world today and it's been used for at least a hundred years to purify water in the world in various different places and it's used to sterilize hospital floors and to sterilize stockyards in different places that need to have the pathogens of
	any kind and all kinds killed and basically it is a oxidizer but it is a very weak oxidizer but it's a strong enough oxidizer to kill pathogens but not a strong enough oxidizer to hurt the human body so basically it will oxidize the pathogens in the body but it doesn't hurt the human
	body at all.
	It's an oxidizer that is not even as strong as oxygen.
	Oxygen goes all through the body and it doesn't hurt the body and chlorine dioxide which is MMS goes all through the body too and it doesn't hurt the body and the way it kills is through oxidation and what oxidation actually is is When you take,
	you have enough voltage on the oxidizer, it has enough voltage to pull away the electrons that are holding the various chemicals together that are holding them as part of the pathogen.
	And when it pulls those electrons away from the Pathogen and then the part of the pathogen that it does that to flies apart and basically what that does is it makes a hole in the side of the pathogen as it pulls those electrons away and of course with the pathogen having a hole in it it is immediately dead and the advantage that
	it has there is that The anti-virus and antibiotics that normally kill pathogens they have to penetrate into the side of the pathogen and go in and kill the nucleus or destroy the nucleus of the pathogen but chlorine dioxide blows a hole in the side of the pathogen
	which is not possible for the pathogen to generate a resistance to it so in a hundred years no pathogen has ever developed a resistance to chlorine dioxide and basically the only thing I did was make it useful in the human body and it really wasn't my invention I thought it was my invention at the time but But many other people
	have done that before me and there are many scientists with patents since probably about 1970.
	People have been doing it.
	It's just that I came along and really pushed it and made it happen in the real world, although it had been tested scientifically many times over the years.
	Okay.
	Are you able to talk about what happened once you realized it was curing the people in this town?
	What transpired?
	In other words, were you asked to leave the town?
	And how did the people react when they found that they were cured?
	In other words, did they welcome you into their homes?
	Did they ask for more MMS and so on and so forth?
	Well yes, what happened was my friend invited me to Malawi and he owns a chicken place there where he sells a chicken in a restaurant And he invited me there and then when I got there he took me to a Catholic
	complex out in the wilderness quite a ways.
	But it was a very, very big Catholic complex and the head priest there told me to go see his His doctor at the place that sells non-medical herb
	remedies.
	And so I went to him and he asked me, well does this stuff that you have, it cures malaria, but does it cure HIV? And I said, well of course it does.
	And he said, well, I have five HIV people here in my place.
	Would you treat them?
	And I said, certainly I will.
	And so he brought them in.
	And of course, my protocol for curing HIV is a three-week process where you give them a small amount of of NMS every hour for eight hours a day and so I started these people on that protocol and the next day when I was they said they were already feeling better and then there were other people started showing up they started telling their friends and other people
	started showing up and so I started showing up every day and I went into town and I bought some some bottles and At first we used coke bottles and whatever we could find but finally I was able to buy in a nearby town when I say nearby 150 miles away I was able to buy small bottles that I could give people and I just started treating people and people with malaria
	started I'm sorry not malaria but HIV started coming from all over Malawi and every day I had 20 to 30 people waiting for me outside of the clinic there and the doctor and his people were of course helping me treat the people and so I wound up treating 800 people for HIV and
	many of them had malaria as well so we We treated them for both things and the HIV cases, they were all successful too.
	Out of 800, 700, I'm telling you the short story.
	Out of 800, 700 and 95 of them were successful finally after treating some of them several times.
	But in any case they were successful.
	The Catholic priest finally decided well I couldn't be treating HIV and malaria there.
	This was a herb clinic and he said I had to go and so I went I rented a place over there and then the FDA for that country came and said I was running a clinic.
	Well, I really wasn't running a clinic but they said I was and so they arrested me and took me to the police station They wanted the police to put me in jail, but I had already treated 10 of their people for HIV, so they wouldn't put me in jail, but they said I could go home and come back the next day.
	So anyhow, it turned out that the FDA wanted me arrested and wanted me tried and all that.
	But it finally wound up that I was allowed to leave the country.
	Wow, that's just incredible.
	Okay, so can you talk a bit more about the composition of MMS? Because I have a note here from somebody saying that there is sodium chloride mixed with acid to produce chlorine dioxide.
	Is that correct?
	That's correct.
	The stabilized oxygen in the United States and anywhere in the world, of course, sodium chloride is used to produce chlorine dioxide and when you mix sodium chloride with a food acid like the acid that's in your stomach or The citric acid,
	any of those acids will cause sodium chloride to become unstable and begin releasing chlorine dioxide and of course the chlorine dioxide is what does the job and when I first started using it I was just lucky because the people who I gave it to had hydrochloric acid in their stomach.
	Now people don't always have hydrochloric acid because that's what your stomach digests food with and sometimes you have it and sometimes you don't but at that time I was lucky and they had the hydrochloric acid so it produced the chlorine dioxide and that's what killed the malaria they had when I was in the jungle.
	So basically Throughout the world today, that's the main way of generating chlorine dioxide in the industry even is using sodium chloride and of course MMS is just a proper mixture of sodium chloride and any time you're going to take it you add some food acid to it and it's set up so if you take three drops of Of
	sodium chloride, then you take three drops of the acid and that activates it and gives you chlorine dioxide.
	Okay, and I guess I've always used the citric acid combination with the MMS. And it's equal parts of each, right?
	Right.
	Actually, it depends on your body chemistry.
	I think even how large you are, how many drops you really need, because I find that I need a lot less than...
	I have a very sensitive system, so I only use one or two drops, and it cures whatever.
	Yes, that's quite true.
	You can...
	It has a lot to do with how much you weigh and how many drops you need.
	Okay.
	And so at this point, on your website, are you still selling MMS? I personally have never sold MMS. I make no money from MMS at all.
	And if it happened to be that they started curing Malaria throughout the world, I still wouldn't make any money from it.
	My job is to get the information to the world and to get malaria cured and I'm just doing it because that's my job and so I make no money from it at all.
	Okay.
	Okay, well, I think that that's very, very interesting.
	Okay, I've got some people asking questions here, and I'm going to ask you questions that are showing up in the chat.
	We've got some people here behind the scenes, and one person is asking, could you elaborate on your experiences with Klaus Prosmans, who narrated the video?
	Well, I felt in the beginning that he was really, really interested in helping mankind, basically.
	When he actually did the job that he was doing, running the test there in Africa, it seemed like that he was really interested and he talked about it as if he was really,
	really interested that it was working and doing the job to cure malaria but he has now said that he was in China during the testing time which was back in December of 2012 and the four days back then starting on the 11th of December He
	says he wasn't even there and he didn't know anything about it.
	But the fact is that we have him on video saying that he thought it was really a great thing that these people were being cured.
	So things didn't go down exactly the way he expected or the The Red Cross really, really just backed away and backed away and actually lied about the whole thing.
	Was Claus Prossman part of the Red Cross or was he working for someone else?
	He is the guy who started the Water Reference Center and that's a center that is actually part of the Red Cross now.
	and they work on water in various countries purifying water that's their job is to set up ways of purifying water in the various different countries and the Red Cross sponsors him and he's one of the top people you might consider as part of the Red Cross because his His water reference center is actually a part of the Red Cross
	now.
	I see.
	So apparently maybe he was threatened and told to back away?
	Yeah, I have a feeling that he was probably threatened because he was very excited about it.
	He thought it was a wonderful thing and then all of a sudden he knows nothing about it.
	So I have a feeling that they threatened him or At best, they at least told him he was going to lose his job in his water reference center and everything, but I think that they probably threatened his life, really.
	Okay.
	Where is this video that you're talking about?
	Is this video available on your website, or how can people watch it?
	Oh, sure.
	It's available on YouTube.
	On YouTube.
	It's on all of your websites.
	And it's on all of my websites, which have to do with the genesis2church.org and all of the websites that have to do with that, genesis2church.org.
	Okay, and what is Genesis 2 Church?
	What is that?
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry about that.
	Can you hear me now?
	Ask me that again, will you?
	Yes.
	What is Genesis 2 Church?
	What is this?
	Well, it's a church that I started.
	It's a non-religious church that started to serve mankind.
	Mainly, we started it as a legal way of protecting our ministers of health, the people who are trained to use MMS and cure most any disease known and they come here for a week's training and we have them all do every protocol that we have and how they use it and everything and they're considered ministers
	and they're part of our non-religious church and it's a legal church Okay, and MMS can also cure animals ailments, isn't that right?
	That's right, and it's already saved many people who have, you know, thousands of animals have saved them thousands of dollars, so it's a big savings of money for large animal owners.
	Okay, and what diseases were the animals threatened with that it was used for?
	Well, you know, I don't know much about animal diseases and all that, but I can tell you that this one group that was in Spain, they were spending $35,000 every three months on Various different animal drugs,
	I guess I should call them pharmaceutical drugs, and they were able to completely eliminate that whole cost.
	So it saves them $35,000 every three months.
	Okay, okay.
	Hold on one second.
	I'm supposed to ask you how you found the new video.
	I'm not sure what that question refers to.
	What new video is the person referring to?
	I believe that question is aimed at Leo.
	Oh, I see.
	Leo, can you hear me okay?
	Yes, yes.
	How did you find the new video?
	That was by accident.
	I found an email from that African movie maker, and I thought, oh, let me ask him what happened that time, because there were two other people who were making the whole project.
	And so I thought by myself, let me ask him, What he did with that material when he finished a movie.
	So I wrote him an email, and then he wrote me an email back with a link from a hidden place on YouTube, a private place.
	And so I was very surprised when I saw that beautiful movie.
	Because it shows exactly what we did there.
	Okay.
	So you saw a movie.
	It's...
	I'm getting a strange message on Procaster Hero.
	Hopefully this is working well.
	If the people in the chat can tell me how it's working, that would help.
	If the visuals look okay for you, hopefully it's working.
	So you saw a movie and you tried to track down something about the filming of it or what exactly?
	What is the question?
	What the movie is showing?
	Yes.
	Well, the movie is showing how the people there are treating with MMS, and then they do interviews with Klaas Pusman, an interview with some people from the Red Cross, and all of them agree that the MMS is curing malaria.
	So when they are telling that they are very happy that they found something where they can help the people in their area.
	And that's of course, yes, that's a good video because they say by themselves what we are doing.
	Okay.
	Thank you for that.
	And when you were sort of at the test for the Red Cross, were there any other people watching the test besides the people that you spoke about?
	In other words, were there other people?
	Yes.
	It happens during some days that people come from outside, people who They know about the test and who would convince themselves what we are doing.
	So there were a difficult group of people who were coming up during the day and I don't know exactly their function but it was always people who had to do something with health programs and from the Red Cross by itself there were Together we were with a stack of 15 people.
	Okay, but you have visitors sometimes from outside you're saying?
	Yes, yes.
	Okay, it looks like we are having some video problems.
	If you hold on one moment here, I'm going to try to get Leo back on here.
	Can you hear us?
	Yes, I can hear you, but I can't see you.
	Okay, let me see.
	So, not sure what's going on here.
	I think what I'll do is hang up and dial you guys back.
	It'll probably be the fastest way to go.
	So, hold on one moment.
	I'll try this again.
	Okay, we're trying to load the video right now to see we're trying to load the video right now to see if we can get people on video again.
	Okay, we're going to do that again.
	I'm not sure why we're having a problem all of a sudden.
	Well, it seems like most of the time If we have anything to do with MMS, we always have problems.
	Okay.
	Well, this is also something that goes on with Camelot, and so that's part for the course as well for that.
	I think what I'll do is stop this transmission and start up again and see if we can get you guys back online here.
	So hold on one minute.
	Okay, everyone.
	Sorry for the delay.
	We're trying to get back on here.
	At this point, what I'm going to try to do is just have you on here to try to have less trouble with the Skype.
	And we'll pull Leo in at a little bit later time if there's a reason to do so.
	Dan, perhaps you can advise us in that regard.
	I'll let him know because it's middle of the night for him.
	I'll let him know to stand by.
	Okay, thank you.
	So we're starting this up again.
	This is an interview with Jim Humble.
	He is the inventor of MMS and has been doing some tests in Africa.
	And basically curing people of malaria and did a number of tests with the Red Cross that they are now denying ever happened.
	That is why we're doing this broadcast at this time is to delve into that story and to learn more about what really is going on.
	And this is a very revealing situation because this tells you how the pharmaceutical companies try to prevent Cures for various diseases from reaching the public when we can cure ourselves almost everything through very, very simple means.
	And this is only one of those kinds of means, but it's a very, very good one.
	And so we're talking to Jim Humble all about that.
	So Jim, if you could talk about your situation at this time, what are you doing in Mexico and how does it Are you also using MMS there or helping people with various diseases there?
	Yes, we do help anybody who shows up here needing help.
	There are lots of people around Mexico who use MMS. They buy it from one of my health ministers and I'm just what we do here and I sort of act as head of the church here and I have 600
	actually we have 700 ministers of health that are situated around the world and more than 80 different countries They all treat people and help restore their health.
	We call it mainly restoring health as opposed to treating diseases, but what we do is we restore people's health and we don't charge, except of course we ask for donation after the person is As well or after the person is feeling a lot better, one of the two.
	And the other main function that we have here is we put on a lot of seminars for people around the world.
	So we have seminars here and people come from all over the world to learn about how to use MMS and the various different protocols and all the various different diseases and basically we do the training here and they go out to treat the world.
	Okay, very good.
	Can you name some of the various diseases that have been cured by MMS? Well, I'm not very good at going on a list, but let's see.
	We have...
	Well, isn't cancer one of the...
	Let me just ask you.
	Absolutely.
	Cancer is one of the major diseases.
	And we have, of course, thousands of people who have testified that they're being helped with cancer.
	Anywhere from stage one to stage four cancer conditions and we have helped.
	There have been some cancer cases that the doctors give three or four days left to live and then they started on MMS and they're well now living their life.
	But on the other hand, we can't guarantee that every case is cured either.
	Sometimes they aren't Especially if they've been treated a lot with the various different medical treatments like chemotherapy and other treatments.
	So it's just a matter of What was the question?
	Okay, what you're basically saying is that some people are cured but that they have used other treatments and sometimes you can't tell what the final cure is coming from or are you saying that some of those other treatments interfere with your efforts to treat them?
	Some of the other treatments interfere and the main ones that interfere is of course the medical treatments that do harm They, you know, the chemotherapy and radiation usually do more harm,
	a lot more harm than they do good, and so by the time they get to us, they're really, really in bad shape, and people have given up generally, but they want to try one more thing, and so a lot of times we can cure them,
	and sometimes we can't, and then, of course, we have a Autism is one of the major things that's being used nowadays that MMS is being used to cure nowadays and Carrie Rivera is a lady who has worked many protocols for autism and at this time she has recovered 93 cases of autism and
	of course they are totally Tested to make sure that they have been cured and autism, they claim, the doctors claim that it can't be cured but using MMS and other things, protocol, other parts of the protocol, Carrie has been able to do 93 cases.
	Okay, very good.
	I know that it cured arthritis for Andreas Kalker.
	Have you heard of other cases of arthritis that it's also cured?
	Many, many cases, but one of the significant cases was the first one that we treated was in about 2006.
	A lady got arthritis in her in her feet and then it got worse in her hands and then it got in her knees and then it got in the rest of her body and she by the end of six months arthritis was completely through her body and she laid in bed for nine years unable to move except for a mighty small amount and her relatives would get her up out of bed
	and they'd shuffle her to the bathroom several times a day and that was all the movement she could do for nine years and then she started taking MMS and at one month one month she was back walking normal and I'm talking about the big knots that form on your hands and your knees and things they were all gone at the end of one month of being treated with MMS and she's
	back Pretty much normal.
	She isn't totally back to health, but she can live a normal life now, which is something that almost nobody else has ever been when they were in that kind of a condition.
	Okay, and isn't there also a case of curing blindness?
	Am I wrong about that?
	Certain types of blindness, yes, but it depends on what the blindness is caused by.
	If it's caused by certain types of pathogens, yes, normally you can do something about it, help or completely cure, but normally blindness is one of the harder things to cure because it's not always caused by A pathogen that you can kill.
	I understand.
	Okay, is there any other statements or special cures that have happened in your experience that you want to talk about?
	Well, you know, my memory isn't the greatest thing in the world, but let me say that I have seen In the last 15 years, I've seen thousands of cases, and I doubt that there's any disease that I haven't seen cured.
	Okay.
	Dan, could you perhaps assist?
	I'm sorry, but I just...
	That's okay.
	I don't think that there's anything that it won't help.
	Now, there might be some things that actually a case of not being able to help was ingrown toenails.
	It's not caused by a pathogen, so you probably won't be able to cure an ingrown toenail with MMS, but most of the diseases known to man It cures.
	So it's hard to find something that it won't cure.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So if anyone has questions, please put them in all caps in the chat.
	We're going to try to ask him whatever questions you run by me.
	I do see a question here about Lyme disease.
	And what they call, I think, MS or muscular...
	I forget what MS stands for.
	Muscular sclerosis.
	Yeah.
	Have you had any luck with those diseases?
	Yes, of course.
	There was a lady who started in 19...
	I mean, in 2008, she started a group of MS people and she had about more than 20 in her group and they began taking MMS and they actually were at it for about three years and they
	all worked together and they did it and so It takes some time, some things like MS takes a much longer time but actually they all considered themselves to be cured at the end of the three years.
	Some got cured earlier and some got cured later but her group has been disbanded because they've all been cured.
	That's one.
	What about Lyme disease?
	Lyme disease, yes, a lot of cases of Lyme disease.
	Some takes a lot longer than others, but it's the protocol 1000, which I call protocol 1000, and that is where you take a small dose every hour for eight hours a day and And it just goes on every day, eight hours, until you're well.
	And sometimes it takes three weeks, and sometimes it takes three months, or even longer.
	But generally, and of course with Lyme disease, and like most all the other diseases, You always start out very small with a small dose every hour but if that isn't working then we add a DMSO in there and then if that don't get it then we go to protocol 2000 where we increase the amount of
	drops per hour.
	Now 1000 you never go over Three drops per hour, but when you go to protocol 2000, you can increase that up to any point where the person is not feeling bad.
	Never make the person feel bad.
	Never make them have nausea or diarrhea or any of those things.
	Carefully keep it down so that they don't get sicker.
	But if that don't work then we add in MMS2 and if that don't work then we add other protocols and we add protocol 3000 where we put the MMS on the outside of the body including taking it by mouth and actually As we add more things, we don't stop taking anything.
	We just add more things to it.
	And so it gets more and more intense when it doesn't work.
	Most of the time it works before we get to that point.
	But we just keep adding more and more ways of getting MMS into the body without causing discomfort.
	Until they are well.
	Okay.
	And yourself, have you taken MMS for anything for your own benefit?
	Oh yes, I take it usually daily and that keeps my immune system going and keeps me in pretty good shape.
	I'm 80 years old and I'm a I can get to the top of this mountain out here faster than most people in town.
	I have heard that actually it can be destructive to internal organs if taken too much.
	Have you heard anything of this nature?
	No, there's never been anything recorded along those lines.
	So I don't think that's true.
	There's a lot of critics out there trying to put out bad information, but there's nowhere in the world can you find where there are sheets of paper signed by a doctor saying that they have found that MMS or chlorine dioxide has caused damage to A person's body.
	It just ain't there.
	Okay.
	So you came from the aerospace industry.
	Why did you get involved in health?
	Well, I was involved in health before I even went to the aerospace industry.
	I started when I was a very young fellow.
	I started reading the alternate books on health.
	I don't know if you remember, but Adele Davis wrote one of the first books on vitamins.
	I started back then and I was involved in it continuously ever since I was about 20 years old.
	Okay, and so you just had a fascination with alternative health?
	Yes, it was.
	I created a 200-question test that asked questions like, do your eyes hurt when you go out in the sun?
	Do you get athlete's feet?
	Do you get dandruff?
	Do you sleep well at night?
	Do you digest your food well?
	On and on.
	200 questions.
	Back in about 1960, and I give that to thousands of people in the Los Angeles area, and I was able to determine the vitamins and minerals,
	proteins and fats that people were deficient in by the answers to their questions, and of course I was able to recommend a number of vitamins in various different Nutrients they should take to remedy the deficiencies that the test showed.
	And then I did the test for quite some time with thousands of people and then I computerized it when the personal computers came out.
	And so I sold a computer program with that test in it for some time until the old The old computers went out of years, and so I was into other things at that time.
	Okay.
	Actually, let me say that I can't see any questions in the chat right now, so if anyone does have a question, let's see.
	Something about wearing sunglasses, one person is asking.
	They said they heard you speak about wearing sunglasses.
	Well, yes, your eyes generate your vitamin A. Most of the vitamin A that your body uses is generated in the back of your eyes by ultraviolet light when you go out into the sun.
	And if you're wearing sunglasses, you're not going to be generating much vitamin A or none at all.
	And so if you're a person who wears sunglasses very much, you should get some...
	Bottles of vitamin A and make sure you take four or five pills a day.
	Okay, that's very smart.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Okay, and I'm again trying to see if there's any other questions that I'm missing here in the chat.
	So, anything about vitamin C? Do you have any thoughts about vitamin C? Well, vitamin C, of course, is a very good vitamin, and everybody needs plenty of it and all of that, but it kills MMS,
	so if you're taking MMS, you can't take vitamin C at the same time, but you can, you know, you separate it out by a couple of hours, and you're okay, but don't take vitamin C and MMS at the same time, and vitamin C is...
	A very useful vitamin, but you can also overdo it.
	Okay, so if you say you can't when you're doing MMS, do you also suggest that people don't eat fruit or drink fruit juice?
	Normally I do because the fruit juice makes MMS weaker.
	It destroys the strength of the chlorine dioxide and makes it weaker.
	So if you're going to drink fruit juice, I would suggest that you add a few drops to your dose each time because of that.
	But you're better off just taking MMS with water But you could use soda water, not soda water that has the sugar in it, but just plain old soda water is pretty safe for not killing the strength and for killing most of the taste.
	Okay, let me see.
	Somebody is asking about sun gazing.
	People that do sun gazing, you know, sort of they, I forget what it's called, but they go without eating and they only drink water.
	Do you have any thoughts about that?
	Well, yeah, I've heard of people doing that.
	I know several people who have done it.
	They usually do the sun gazing, of course, at the time it's going down, just a few minutes before it disappears behind the mountains or the sea.
	I wouldn't advise sun gazing into the bright sun, but at the time it's going down, it might be useful.
	And they claim a lot of benefits from it, but I've never done it, and I wouldn't recommend it.
	Okay.
	Let me see.
	Is MMS for sale?
	You're saying it goes out through various distributed platforms.
	I believe, other distributors.
	Do you know where it's for sale, for example?
	My understanding is that you can't buy it in Europe anymore.
	Yeah, but you can buy it as a water purification drops.
	Chlorine dioxide water purification drops, and they have MMS water purification drops too.
	You'll buy it as a water purification drops, and then you can use it for anything you want.
	If you want to cure your diseases with it, you can, but it's sold as water purification drops and not as a cure for diseases.
	Okay.
	And in the United States, I do think you can buy it here in the United States.
	I'm not sure about Great Britain.
	I know you can buy it on the internet, and I know that Andreas Kalkar, for example, It has been a distributor.
	I don't know what's going on with that.
	Yes, it's sold all over the world on the internet and you've just got to know that mainly nowadays it's sold as water purification drops because of course the governments have decided that we shouldn't have it to cure ourselves.
	Yes, exactly.
	Okay.
	There's a video link that I guess I'm being sent, and I'm trying to get it up here while we speak so that people can see this, but I don't know if I can do that without throwing us off the air.
	So what I'll do is I'll make these links available after the fact here on my website.
	And by the way, there is a Camelot interview with Jim Humble.
	If you just go to interviews on the front page of Camelot and you use the dropdown, you can...
	Find the interview under ProjectHamlet.org.
	It's on the old site, the old Project Hamlet site, and you use the drop-down menu there, and you'll find Jim Humble's name.
	I will also make that link available after this broadcast.
	Is there anything else that you suggest at this time?
	I mean, you've gone and cured malaria, but you're not able to distribute it in Africa.
	Are there people in Africa asking you to come back at this time?
	Oh yes, there's people all over the world asking for that and I wish I had the money to do it with.
	But one thing I really would like to ask of everybody is that they share the video of the Red Cross video and that they tell their friends about it and their family about it and they just share it with everybody in the world if possible.
	The more people that we share Because if we finally get them out curing and treating malaria cases, then they're going to have to start thinking about all the other diseases that need to be cured, and then we'll change the world.
	All we need to do now, all you need to do is to share this video with people.
	That's all you need to do.
	We'll change the world.
	So please share it.
	Okay, and someone looks like they're putting it in the chat there.
	Thank you very much.
	I very much appreciate that.
	Okay, I guess we're going to round this off now.
	We've been going for about an hour and a half, and we don't want to keep Jim too much longer.
	Jim, is there anything else you would like to talk about before we close this down?
	Well, no, unless you have some special questions.
	Not much else I can talk, just please share the video.
	Okay, I appreciate that very much and we want to thank you very much for your excellent discovery of MMS and I have to say that it did help us.
	At one point we came back from Russia, we had a virus we couldn't kick with anything else and that's how we discovered MMS, someone We sent it to us and it cured us right away.
	I have met and spoken at length with Andreas Kalker who was cured.
	I couldn't even pick up his baby daughter.
	He had arthritis so bad and took MMS and then he became such a devoted follower of it that he decided to distribute it himself.
	So he's been doing that.
	And what I can say is that it sounds like you're doing some very good work.
	Is there anything, I guess people can go to your website in order to contact you, is that right?
	Yes, they could if they wanted to contact me.
	Anybody can contact me if they really want to.
	They have to go through a couple of sites or go through some of my Ministers, but they can.
	I want people to contact me.
	I encourage them to get a hold of me if they have important questions or ideas or anything that is useful.
	My ministers, most of them are able to answer questions that they might have.
	It's pretty much set up so they can get answers to questions, but sometimes they have to be a little diligent, but they can do it.
	Okay.
	Going forward, what are your plans now?
	Well, right now it's very important that we get the Red Cross thing pushed as far as we can.
	But the plans beyond that is to continue here, continue training ministers of health to go out and treat people around the world and to get MMS somehow into the mainstream because once it's in the mainstream it will change the world completely and it will make the world In
	Africa and many other places in the world most of the poverty is caused by sickness and in Africa mostly by malaria and if we can cure the sickness and the malaria of the world most of the poverty will be gone in the world so there's a lot of things that we can do to change the world just by getting MMS used and of course Change the suffering of mankind.
	So, basically, the idea is just to keep pushing until we change that.
	Okay.
	Well, very, very good.
	Thank you so much.
	Dan, is there anything else that you would like to talk about?
	Because Dan has been standing by.
	Dan Bender is a filmmaker who's helped Camelot in the past.
	We want to thank Dan Bender for that.
	He's helping Jim Humble right now.
	He's filming this as we film this on livestream.
	Is there anything else that you want to add here, Dan, that you think that we perhaps haven't covered?
	Well, the key thing, like Jim was saying, and I know that we're probably playing a broken record here, is That getting the word out through to everyone.
	It's important that people know which link to distribute because it's important that whoever is looking at it sees that there are a lot of people interested in the subject.
	So when I was looking and watching on live stream the links that were being distributed, there are several other ones.
	Now, I don't know which ones those are.
	I can't watch them right now.
	But the key On the contrary.
	We have put out this video in forms that people can download them and distribute them.
	We do encourage that.
	But right now, the most important thing for people to do is to take that video link, which is distributed on the church website and the one that first came out on July 1st, And get that one distributed to as many people as possible throughout the world.
	And also, if any of you listening have family members, friends, contact people in a position of being able to distribute it further, be that a large blog, be that in a position where you have access to media via television,
	radio, newspaper, whatever tools you have at your Because the more we can go ahead and make sure that the cat stays out of the bag, and it's kind of ironic, you saw, you heard the cat meow earlier, and Jim was looking down and chuckling.
	He was not chuckling at what Leo was saying, he was chuckling because the cat was chasing a lizard around the room.
	I should point that out, because if anybody was wondering why he was laughing at something very serious, I believe, that Leo was talking about, that is the reason why.
	And he's trying to go out now, and this cat loves to look Anyway, but the key thing is here, for anyone out there who has the tools or knows someone who has the tools to distribute and get the word out, it is imperative that you go and actually do that.
	Take the action and go for it and talk to your friends who have those abilities to spread that word further than where it is now.
	I would like to see that this video has not...
	It's closing in on 10,000 views today.
	I would like to see 100,000.
	I would like to see a million views because then it will finally go ahead and make it clear to more people out there that this really does work.
	And I do want to say one other thing.
	I don't think it's the intention of Jim or anyone else involved to harm those people who really work hard at the Red Cross to help people.
	We're simply trying to go ahead and see that those people who are making decisions that are harmful to people, especially those who are suffering from illnesses that could easily be cured, that those people no longer continue to hold those positions when they are making such decisions that are clearly wrong.
	And I think that that's the key statement that I could make at my end.
	Okay, and I'm noticing that you also mentioned that Andreas Kalker for some reason is not distributing it.
	No, I need to make something very clear.
	This is especially apropos in countries, first world countries, where apparently people are trying to stop someone selling MMS, quote-unquote, especially for healing purposes.
	From a legal standpoint, people can sell sodium chloride For water treatment, that is perfectly legal.
	However, when it is being put out for purposes of medical reasons, medical uses, that's where that use becomes an issue.
	And we have the cat actually...
	Well, here's the famous cat.
	Jim, you get to hold the famous cat.
	Anyway, the key thing is that one entity cannot be doing both the distribution of information As well as the distribution of MMS or sodium chloride.
	And so, those two need to be separated.
	And Andreas is not involved with selling any MMS. He is purely an information person and is out trying to make sure people have accurate scientific information about this whole subject.
	A university on this, so it sounds like he's just doing this by himself.
	He has real professional people involved.
	Okay, wonderful.
	All right, and what about celebrities?
	Have there been any celebrities that have approached you, been cured by MMS, and been willing to speak about it?
	I'm not aware of it.
	Maybe Jim is, but there are some celebrities we have contact with that may be All right.
	Jim, do you know of any very well-known people, be they celebrities or just simply well-known people, that would be willing to come forward and vouch for MMS? No, I'm sorry, but I really don't.
	For whatever reason, that hasn't become an issue up to this point.
	Okay.
	Alright, well we're going to have to let you and the cat go and we want to thank you very much for coming on the live stream with us today and maybe we can do an update in the future to hear how things are going and check back in with you if that's alright.
	That would be great and it's certainly been my pleasure to talk about it today.
	Alright, thank you so much.
	Thank you Dan, thank you very much for taking the time Thank you everyone for listening.

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