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	And coming at you next, this is Kerry Cassidy with Whistleblower Radio, Project Canalots.
	So without much further ado, here's Keri Cassidy.
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	This is Keri Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio.
	And we are going to be talking to Stu Webb this evening.
	For those of you who are not familiar with Stu, he is a whistleblower.
	And if you go to the front page of Camelot, you will see his bio, which is posted there.
	And I also want to alert you to the fact that we have a chat room that's part of the show.
	So that's also in the front page of Camelot.
	So it's Project Camelot ORG.
	And if you go there and click on The radio show icon you can see that we have a live chat that goes along with this show and that allows you to ask questions of the guest.
	So I encourage you to go there, sign up.
	All you do is put in your name and put any name you want and then just hit register.
	You don't have to fill out any of the rest of the forms or any of that stuff.
	And anyway, that's open to you and it would be great to have some people in there asking good questions during this Thank you very much.
	I'm very happy to have you here.
	There's so much going on in the world right now.
	It's really mad.
	It's kind of off the charts.
	Everything's off the charts, isn't it?
	Yep, it really is.
	Just because today is the day where they announced the meteor over Russia, and I'm already getting some back-channel information, conflicting information saying maybe the Russians were shooting it down, maybe it was a Russian missile, other kinds of things.
	Have you heard anything to the contrary about that meteor?
	Well, I was up early this morning, or late last night, early this morning, about 3 a.m., before I went to bed.
	That was about the time that it came out, it first popped, and I saw something, I was up on a site, and I saw something, not a site, but on Twitter, actually, and I saw something pop, and it was RTV, and so I grabbed it real quick and looked at it, and first it was, uh, meteor and or UFO.
	Then, about 15 minutes later, it says, a US weapon was tested.
	All three different things, but I have not inquired today because I think it was a meteor is what it was.
	I haven't inquired, but I saw those three different titles all change in about a 30-minute period.
	Okay, very interesting.
	Well, I've got on my website a source came forward saying that they questioned whether it really was a meteor.
	There was some back-channel information, even on RT, if you go down and I've actually quoted it.
	Go to the front page of Camelot, scroll down to my blog, you'll see the item there, where people have been saying that the Russian military looked like they were shooting something down.
	That was some of the initial thought.
	Since then, apparently NASA has come forward saying it was a meteor.
	They are saying it is not the meteor that is expected, which is called 2012 number 42.
	I have to actually look up the name to see what it is called.
	They're saying it's not that.
	I know that Dutch Sense had thought that it was, so I think he was misled on that point anyway.
	Gary, if I can add to that, the meteor, the asteroid that was supposed to pass us later on today, and it did, it actually passed in between a satellite and Earth, but it did not impact the satellite and it did not impact Earth.
	That was at, what do they call it, AD 2012.
	Okay, so we are getting some conflicting reports here, and it is interesting.
	Some people were confused and actually saying they wanted the same thing.
	that went over Russia apparently came in from the northwest.
	Okay, so we are getting some conflicting reports here.
	And it is interesting.
	Some people were confused in actually saying they wanted the same thing.
	It seems like, I don't know what the odds would be of having an asteroid passing that close to Earth exactly the same time as when a meteor or several meteors would be hitting the Earth simultaneously.
	I don't know if one would say that the asteroid was disturbing other meteors or what in the in other words, I think that that that none of that is really being explained and At least to my knowledge.
	I don't know how those two events could be happening simultaneously and have nothing to do with one another.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I understand exactly what you're saying.
	You know, I saw a meteor shower once.
	It was the most fantastic thing I ever saw.
	And it was around 2000, 2002 in that time frame.
	And I was in Las Vegas because of the weather.
	And it happened about 3 o'clock or 3.45 in the morning.
	I went outside.
	You probably remember it, it was back in the early 2000 time frame.
	I went outside and I looked, and all I could see was meteors going over.
	And I thought, oh my God, if these things really drop down, it'd be at the end of humanity right here, and be the end of me.
	The sky was full for an hour.
	It was just unbelievable.
	I took pictures of the thing, and several other people were outside, but it was just It's phenomenal, and they said you could see it in the western part of the United States.
	I don't know if other people remember that or not.
	Okay, well, I have actually had visions that we are going to be having some severe meteor showers in the future here on planet Earth.
	This may be the beginning of it, but again, I'm just confused as to the fact that we've got an asteroid arriving the same day as Meteor showers.
	Maybe that's to be expected, but to have such a spectacular event.
	I know that it also hit Cuba, apparently.
	There were reports that they were having damage from whatever it is in Cuba.
	So, it is true that we are supposedly moving in alignment with the Galactic Center and that there is a dense Oort cloud, or whatever they're calling it, moving into alignment at the same time.
	Going to be encountering all kinds of space debris.
	There's some thought that that Oort cloud may be hiding what some people call the brown dwarf, the second sun, and other people are calling possibly Nibiru.
	It's a mixed bag.
	I don't know if you've heard any of that stuff.
	I've heard about them and they're coming at us.
	They've been coming at us for quite a while.
	Who knows when they're expected to arrive?
	I mean, and if you look at the Christian perspective, and I know a lot of people do, it's in the Bible that in the end days there would be Wyrmwood.
	Well, that's what they say about Black Star, Brown Dwarf, and other things.
	Who knows?
	I don't know, Carrie.
	We'll see what that brings us.
	I hear you.
	Well, we wanted to have, I will say, Gordon Duff, and we also would love to have Tom Hennigan, because their information is being posted on your website.
	You've done an interview with Gordon not so long ago, and I did manage to listen to some of that, and a very good interview it was.
	And I would love to have the two of you together.
	It sounds like basically you've gotten some support from the Veterans Today Gordon Duff Camp.
	With regard to some of your things that you've been talking about for quite some time, correct?
	That's very true.
	They've asked me to be a columnist and I've got to start putting some columns up about the information that I know.
	So that'll be up there soon.
	I'll start doing probably one or two a week as I get the time.
	I'm trying to redo my website for mobile apps right now.
	That's still taking some time.
	I'm in the middle of other things, trying to collect from some insurance companies, and finally got me an attorney to represent me.
	This is going to be very interesting on these attempted murders, and so, you know, things are changing.
	But yes, when it comes to the camp of Gordon, I've had for quite some time, I've had a group behind me, I've known Leo Wanta for a long time, you know, Bob Hannigan, I've been You know, friends for many, many, many years, over a decade and more.
	And we've both been tied up with various wounds in Interpol.
	So, you know, it was Dom and I that brought, should we say, the Daddy Bush, Leonard Bellman, my ex-in-law's crowd to their knees in bank bailout.
	And we thought we had them in bankruptcy court in late 2007 or late 2008.
	Of course, that's when George W. Bush, their partner in crime, who won the Those crime syndicate members, give them bank bail out instead.
	And now you can see where we're at again today.
	We're in a total disaster.
	But yeah, I've been tied for a long time, various groups, since the early 2000 time frame.
	I was kind of a lone ranger, other than all the whistleblowers that are either now dead, that we were all networking together, or the few that are still alive, like Al Martin.
	And you've had many of them on there, I mean, on your show, you've probably I've done more interviews with a lot of my friends than anyone else has had.
	So, I'll kind of leave it as that.
	Yeah, I hear ya.
	Well, can you give us an update as to what's going on?
	Because I know that one of the lead-ins on your website is the Hennigan article, and they are talking about a reworking of the financial system.
	This has been sort of in the offing for quite some time.
	I'm not sure why there's such an urgency suddenly.
	Do you know why?
	Do you understand the machinations behind why China would be suddenly devaluing the Renminbi or the Yuan?
	Well, everybody has caught on to the fact that Leonard Mellman, my ex-in-law, who was Danny Bush's partner for the advocation, was listening.
	And was partners to Bill and Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush, Jeb Bush, Neal Bush, and he had Neal at Silverado, at Millman's savings loan.
	And his buffer, Millman's buffer being Larry Mizell, Mizell and Millman created artificial mortgages on houses that didn't exist, which were Skyhawk homes.
	Red Hawk Homes, Ponderosa Homes, California, Richmond American Homes, Wood Brothers Homes, and KB Homes that Millman owned and controlled.
	All the other entities except for KB were under the umbrella of MDC Holdings of Denver.
	And MDC was buying up mortgages through its various asset investors, MDC asset investors, asset investors, asset investor partners, the list goes on.
	It's on my website.
	You can scroll down and look for a picture of, let me give you a date, it was February the 13th.
	You can scroll down to there and you can see the three Stooges.
	Well, in Additional Breaking News, at the top left column of stooweb.com, you can see it says Additional Breaking News 2012.
	There's a link in there that identifies, because I threw it back in the SEC's face, After they came in and said at the first of last year, a year ago, that they were going to create a mortgage task force group to prosecute those involved, and we knew it was just cover-up on the back end.
	So I threw the names out to them that I had thrown out to Interpol and other people in U.S.
	intelligence that helped me bring them to their knees, a bank bailout, should we say, along with Tom Hinnigan.
	Tom was very instrumental with me in doing that.
	We worked together for a number of years trying to crater financially, expose them.
	But what they were doing at MDC Holdings, the parent company, Silverado, that was all tied to all the S&L fraud and Jump on Daisy Chain and the Denver Airport fraud and every kind of conceivable fraud there ever has been, pension fund frauds, everything.
	They were buying up mortgages from around the country as well as they were financing and the mortgages on the houses they were building in Richmond, American, and Ponderosa, etc.
	Some of the largest builders in the entire country in the top ten.
	What they were essentially doing is through their MDC asset investors and asset this and asset that, they were buying up these mortgages.
	And they came out of the idea to duplicate the mortgages up to nine times over the same mortgage.
	So they had eight or nine artificially created mortgages and they were creating mortgages on houses that didn't exist.
	And by doing so, they sold them, then in bundles, got reinsurance through my ex-in-law, Leonard Mellman's AIG Corp, that him and Daddy Bush controlled through Hankeringberg, and Citicorp that they had, and a few other banks.
	And they turn around.
	These are the Federal Reserve boys.
	They're the ones that control the Federal Reserve.
	And they turn around and they marketed these things as mortgage-backed securities with insurance guarantees on them through AIG.
	And they packaged them up, sold them in the bond market, they sold them to Wall Street, they sold them into the pension funds.
	They dumped a lot of crap on everybody.
	CalPERS was the first to really get affected by it, the California pension fund.
	And they got affected to the tune of, God, I don't know, it's huge.
	But anyway, the bottom line is, they created these mortgages, they got caught creating the mortgages, we had them go into bankruptcy court, they would have ended up in jail over it.
	Instead, Bush gives them a bank bailout to cover it up, and old Buck Tarp.
	And then, of course, Obama, he comes in because they got him all blackmailed, and he's a stooge.
	And of course, you see it with the fact he appointed Hillary.
	Uh, who was a Millman partner in Whitewater, and Casa Grande, and all the drugs, and Gonzalemina, and so forth, points her as Secretary of State to control Obama, along with Eric Holder, who used to be Mark Rich's attorney, along with Lanny Brewer, who was the Assistant Attorney General in charge of these frauds at the Attorney General's Office, was also Mark Rich's attorney, and Mark Rich was involved with Leonard Millman and Larry Mizell, so you have a revolving door
	At the Justice Department of cover-up.
	And so they controlled in Rahm Emanuel, the head of the North American Mossad, the Israeli Mossads, being the first year as the White House, or should we say the President's assistant, telling him what to do.
	So they had him all blackmailed over his Larry Sinclair homosexual activity and the voodoo drug and all the other they had him on.
	So they made sure that they gave a continuous bank bailout.
	And it went on.
	And, you know, I don't have much faith in Barack Obama at all.
	He's a stooge for the bushes.
	But what ended up happening was they created, here's the numbers Gary, they created a hundred million, or a hundred million, excuse me, a hundred trillion.
	That's with a T. A hundred trillion dollars is what the number is now.
	Everybody knows it.
	$100 trillion with the artificial mortgages that they peddled worldwide.
	And what they did is they bundled them up and derivatized them with their banks.
	Now, they had Millman's attorney, Norman Brownstein.
	He was also Daddy Bush's attorney.
	He also was on the board of directors of MDC Holdings, the parent company of asset investors, Colorado's largest corporation or financial corporation that was peddling the mortgages.
	And of course, they haven't traded on the stock exchange since late 2007 when they got caught.
	But he was sitting Norman Brownstein, also a very interesting Besides being an attorney, he was Daddy Bush's attorney when Daddy Bush was C.I.
	Director in the mid-1970s.
	One of his six C.I.
	counsel that controlled the trusts, these 38-and-a-half-year-old trusts that they sent up all this drug money under, and all this stolen assets under, and so forth, that keep passing off to their world order.
	Listen, uh, real quick.
	He was a Deutsche Bank.
	I'll make it simple.
	He was a Deutsche Bank.
	I was a vice president, Deutsche Bank candidate as a director in charge of derivatives.
	And he peddled the derivatives.
	Norman Brownstein did worldwide these artificial mortgages.
	And then what happened was, of course, it came back to bite him after bank bailout, bid him again.
	So they came back in.
	They were stuck themselves with Bank of America, Wells Fargo and other banks.
	They were stuck with these mortgages themselves, with their own bad mortgages, which they put on their books as assets, non-performing assets.
	So you've got these two banks and they're claiming that they've got 8 out of 10 of their mortgages are non-performing assets, when in fact they're bogus mortgages.
	So they come in and they start stealing people's houses, which they've stolen 10.5 million houses from Americans who were legitimately Paying their mortgages on their houses to XYZ Mortgage Company down the street, and they sent these bogus attorneys in all across the land to do this.
	That's where the Attorney Generals last year, at the first part of the year, had all come together and said, we're going to put a stop to this.
	That's when the Justice Department comes in to do the cover-up and say, oh, we're going to create a financial task force.
	Well, who's in charge of that?
	It's the U.S.
	Attorney out of Denver, Colorado, where they've always got a revolving door from the Norman Brownstein law firm into the U.S.
	Attorney's office.
	So is there ever going to be any prosecution of these people?
	I doubt it.
	It never will happen as long as we have Eric Holder and a bunch of criminals at the Justice Department covering this whole thing up.
	Okay, and thank you for that.
	I appreciate the rundown, and I'm sure that the listeners do, and we have heard you speak of this before, but I think that that's a very succinct overview.
	Let me ask you, just in terms of the layout of this kind of design, it didn't start, though, with the mortgages.
	This kind of thing where they're looking for money, what I would say is, because you have to look at where they're putting the money, is into black projects.
	And this also started with what we call the Promise Software saga, or Trail of the Octopus.
	You've heard of that, right?
	Yeah, I'm very quite aware, because I, you know, knew Danny Castlereau was going to write his book, The Octopus.
	He died, and I'm quite aware, because of The Octopus, we did a program about this, and Michael Ricconecito, and Yes, I'm familiar with it, but what's your... Well, you know, because the reason I'm asking is because right now we've got drones hitting the skies, as you can appreciate.
	We've got a network of nanosatellites that are AI-run and very self-replicating.
	And basically, we've got drones that are very likely to be off, you know, acting autonomously as well, ultimately.
	If you look at where the money is going, because on the one hand you've got money that's being stolen, siphoned somewhere, and ultimately it's the Black Projects.
	And then I don't know, but I assume that you haven't become familiar with what's called the White Hat Reports on darkcabalblogspot.com, where they talk about this organization.
	Have you heard of Pure Heart Investments?
	I haven't heard of Pure Heart, but I'm familiar with the so-called White Hats.
	I'm also familiar with Buford Fulford, or Benjamin Fulford.
	I'm also familiar with Colin Drake, The Fake, and others.
	We did a program once about this.
	Yeah, well, the White Hats don't have anything to do with Fulford or with Drake.
	These are completely different people now.
	Well, if it pushes Nasara, which I think the White Hats did for quite a while, I may be wrong.
	No, you've got the wrong group.
	There's some confusion because what happened is Ben Tulford came forward with a group that he then named something like the White Hat Knights or something.
	Knights, I don't even know what he called them.
	But there's some confusion about that.
	So no, I am talking about some documentation.
	done by what are forensic financial investigators.
	And the website, I've quoted them.
	I've put their documents on my website from time to time.
	It's tdarkcabalblogspot.com.
	And anyway, I encourage you to go there sometime.
	It's not obviously something that it sounds like you're that familiar with, but I have to tell you that what they do is they look for the documentation that proves the case.
	Okay?
	So they're not interested in hearsay.
	They're interested in evidence.
	And I think that you'd find their information very valuable.
	I'm not sure what's going on with their website right this second as I'm trying to get on as I speak to you, but I'm sure it'll rectify itself.
	At any rate, the point I'm trying to make here is that what they did is they followed the trail of the money.
	And they went down the roads you're talking about, But they also ended up in discovering what is a front organization, I guess you might say, for funneling money for black projects.
	It's called Pure Heart.
	And this is run by the Bush Cabal.
	And basically, they were stopped at that point.
	From then on, they haven't been able to release any other documentation.
	They have a lot of evidence, but the evidence hasn't come forward.
	I believe they're holding on to it.
	I don't know whether they're investigating further or what, because I haven't been able to keep up with the back channel with that group.
	But I can tell you that they put a lot of work into discovering this stuff.
	And I'm just wondering, because you've got a lot of contacts, whether or not you've ever heard of Pure Martin, I guess you have not, but you're certainly aware that this money that they've been making is going somewhere, right?
	Well, here's the answer you got, and I appreciate, Kerry, your research, and I'll check this site out and take a look at it.
	I mean, there is a lot of stuff around, and there's a lot of disinformation that I'm aware of as well.
	And people, there's a lot of great researchers out here and have done a lot of great work.
	I don't pretend to be the only guy that knows it all, because I don't.
	I mean, it's just too huge.
	But let me add something, because once before we talked, and I had heard you say something about replicating satellites.
	They haven't been able to do that yet.
	They can repair themselves, though.
	I did find out from a source a long time ago, and they cannot replicate.
	They can repair themselves.
	They do have that capability.
	And that may, you know, that's whistleblower testimony.
	That comes from Anthony Sanchez, who's writing a book called Project Leonid.
	And as a matter of fact, he had whistleblowers come to him with this information.
	They work for Lockheed.
	And this wouldn't be something that's on the street.
	This wouldn't even be something... Well, Kerry, he may be putting something out that is self-replicating, but maybe it's because he believes it's a...
	I'm aware of that, and have been aware of that since the time that you mentioned when another show, that they can repair themselves.
	Right.
	It's a self-replicating thing.
	I don't think so, but we'll leave it at that, okay?
	I'm not doing this to not what you're saying at all, or what someone else is saying.
	And I appreciate you, Carrie, because I know that you dig, and you've interviewed a lot, You're cute, you're tough, and you're smart.
	Okay?
	Alright.
	So, you know, we'll leave it, we'll leave it with that.
	But, where'd the money went?
	The $15 tripping?
	We're going to get started.
	We're going to get started right now.
	Right now, we'll be right back.
	Thank you.
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	I think we're back on air, but I'm not positive.
	Folks, this is Keri Cassidy and her guest, Stu Webb, tonight.
	Keri will be back in just a second.
	Hi there.
	Are we back on the air?
	Yes, ma'am.
	It didn't play the right bumpers.
	I'm looking at it, and it didn't play the right ones.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, whatever it is, this is Keri Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, on Revolution Radio.
	I'm supposed to say that, I think, and I'm not sure what else.
	Oh, I'm supposed to say the date, and the date today Is February 15th, 2013.
	And, you know, this date is going to go down in infamy, I think, because there's so many things going on around February 15th today, which has to do with the meteors and a lot of other things.
	Fact Channel, of course, the Pope is resigning.
	And I want to talk to you about that, Stu, and hear what you have to say.
	But do you want to finish up with the nanosatellite thing?
	You had a couple of things to say off the air.
	Yeah, I'll just say what I said to you is that, you know, that China did shoot off a bunch of satellites, that the U.S.
	intelligence doesn't even know what's on those satellites.
	And they know that Rupert Murdoch shot off a lot, which is, you know, Fox News, the Israelis, and there's been other countries shoot up those satellites.
	China shot them up once, launched them up, and they don't know what's on them.
	So I'll just leave it as that.
	Second, you had asked the question, where did all this money go that they have stolen in the black budget?
	Let's look at the numbers.
	We've got 10.5 million people have lost their houses illegally.
	We have 100 trillion, with a T, not billion, trillion dollars, with the artificially mortgages created and duplicated.
	That has cost the taxpayers and cost everybody, all the financial institutions and countries and the pension funds and everybody worldwide.
	And they derivatized them.
	Derivatized them, which has caused the banks now to where they're writing off the derivatives around the world.
	The IMF in particular has made loans, etc.
	Christine Lagarde, she's made loans with this part of France's money and China's money.
	That was part of the Reagan-Meadowrand protocol money that has already been released, and so forth.
	Now, I've heard numbers as high as $1,500 trillion that they've derivatized this to.
	So that means they have $1,500 trillion.
	I ask, where did the friggin' money go?
	Where did the money go?
	If they have derivatized that much, they could have bought the economies of the world Over three times.
	And they're only in control, this group of men, Bushes, Millmans, etc., the Israelis is what it is, the Russian Jew mob, tied to Netanyahu, I don't want to miss him.
	They have taken, in 1981, and only controlled 20% of the U.S.
	economy.
	Now they're in control of 97% of the U.S.
	economy.
	I mean, they put it out on Current TV, Al Gore's network here last year, Gresham, I mean, whatever her name is, the one that was the former governor that has a program on there, she put it out with the general accounting numbers last June, I think it was, said they were in control of 95% of the economy.
	The GAO, from what I understand, is saying they're in control of 97% in the U.S.
	now.
	Now, the rest of the world, these 12 men, the Council of 13, they call it, The devil worshippers, Melvin, Bush, etc., are in control of 90 to 95% of the world's economy.
	They own that much of the economy of the world, period.
	Now, and they've even said that 400 men in the United States, they're buffers.
	They call them buffers, fronts, cutouts, whatever you want to call it.
	In case they get caught stealing, etc., it didn't come back to the head chief.
	400 men make more money In the United States today, than half of the entire population of the United States, on the lower end of the tone pole, from the middle class on down.
	Now, where did all this money go?
	This is what I've been asking for a while.
	Here's what I've heard.
	They're building one hell of a lot of bases on Mars and the Moon, and it deals with secret underground bases that are inside both planets, And it deals with, it comes back to, I call them the fallen angels, people can disagree with me.
	Others call them the aliens at Papoose Lake, Nevada, Area 51.
	And they have several other bases around the planet.
	Jordan, Australia, I think you've had many guests on that, you've touched on this, and I believe you're pretty much aware of it.
	I mean, we're even on Jesse Ventura's runaround on secret bases.
	I watch the program myself.
	Right, well that's our TV show called Shadow Operations.
	We made the pilot, but it has not gone to series.
	Obviously they didn't want that to happen.
	But to get back to the subject here, so you're saying there's a tremendous amount of derivatives out there.
	1,500 trillion.
	I hear you, but supposedly that whole bubble is supposed to burst, wouldn't you say?
	I think it's definitely bursting now, and there's opposition to it worldwide, with finance ministers in various countries, and several of them have been bailed out.
	If you look back at France, out of their Reagan-Mitterrand protocol money that they got back and confiscated part of it from the Bushes, and that whole crowd that hijacked it from Leo Warnke that was running that operation and his group.
	I'm aware that they got their money back.
	Now, they have already made the loan last fall to Spain and Greece, both, to keep them proffered up about 100 million each, or 100 billion each, as I recall, around those numbers, to proffer them up to keep them from collapsing.
	If you remember, you could see all over the news back in August, September, that they were going to collapse, there was going to be a worldwide financial collapse, and all of a sudden you didn't hear any more about Greece or Spain.
	It's because they proffered them up.
	It wasn't that the New World Order, the Federal Reserve, private bank, and ECB, European Central Bank, private bank, Senate people, Council of 13 owns it, the 12 members and their devil they worship, you know, they weren't able to make those, go in and foreclose on those because of the IMF chief, Christine Laguerre.
	Who was an American-born, raised American, that served as head of French intelligence and also served as France's Minister of Finance.
	She is now in charge of the IMF, so we have a good gal in there.
	And they're trying to do everything, there's forces around the world, there's people working around the world, to try to bring down the cabal, should we say.
	I call it the Bush, uh, the Council of 13 is really what it is.
	They're trying to break the back of ECB and they're trying to break the back of the Federal Reserve.
	I mean, you just, you know, let's look at the Federal Reserve.
	Private bank goes into existence in 1913, hijacked the U.S.
	money supply.
	Congress at the time, treasonous, signed off to allow them to do this.
	And they can just create money out of thin air.
	And what was the one thing that they made an announcement about back in September?
	They said, we're going to inject $40 billion a month into mortgages so people can buy houses.
	No, that $40 billion each month that they're creating a fictitious paper out of thin air is buying up the mortgages off the books of the banks that are stuck, that they stuck themselves with when they got caught.
	That's where that money's going.
	We've got a financial collapse coming.
	I thought it was going to happen last June and pushing towards that.
	We are so close to it right now because of many, many, many things in the market.
	If you look at one of the key things I've always watched, Kerry, and I've seen people lose a ton of money.
	I saw somebody in Las Vegas lose a million, about 1.2 million once.
	I gave them a warning.
	People were telling me, Stu, you've got friends in the market.
	Tell them to get their money out.
	And they were foolish, and they didn't do it.
	They all still can't know that.
	Well, I had people tell me that.
	They're telling me right now, it's very wise to get your money out of the banks, out of CDs.
	You know, if you do not have an interest-bearing account at the banks right now, the FDIC does not insure your money.
	So if you've got $10,000 in your bank account, and it's non-interest-bearing, the FDIC does not insure it any longer as of January 1st.
	Oh, really?
	I hadn't heard that, so thank you.
	I think that some people probably don't know that's the case.
	That's interesting.
	Yes, but I'm telling everyone to take their money, and it's very wise, you know, to buy physical gold.
	Quarter-ounce bars.
	You can look up on the internet gold from the refineries around that makes legitimate gold.
	Not these gold bars that are running around with lead and gold plated, etc.
	There are some of the fakes, a lot of them out there.
	Don't get that stuff.
	Get the real thing from a refinery.
	And the reason I say quarter ounce bars is they can cash in easier at, say, $1,600 an ounce right now or thereabouts.
	It's easier to cash in $400 than it is $1,600 because your local gold buyer may not have the cash on hand or the cash in the bank and may have to hold back on a check with you.
	So it's easier if you need that.
	I'm watching this whole financial thing.
	They're trapped.
	Bottom line is, you know, Tom Hennigan and I have worked together for years, trapping them, boxing them, reporting on the financial crimes.
	We have a whole team of us out here.
	We've got a couple spooky-wookie types, I call it, people in intelligence.
	We've got some Interpol intelligence.
	We've got regular just investigators, regular people like me, whistleblower types that are behind the scenes, that we all kick in on a lot of that information that Tom puts to writing.
	And so, you know, it's very accurate and very solid information.
	And I've watched the pattern over the years, especially since about 2004, when we decided to group up together and start hammering them.
	And I've watched every time we do it, something happens and it screws them up.
	So they have to turn around and pull onto this deal and they have to go over here and try to create another deal.
	They're so trapped up at the current time, in every angle, that there has to be a meltdown.
	They have to collapse, and they've got the forces against them to do so.
	You know, it's just like in the Gordon Duff interview that you referenced just a little while ago.
	You know, Gordon had agreed to do the interview.
	I didn't know he would come out and really blast for three full hours with me.
	He gave me a lot of credibility in there and said, Stu, I've been watching you.
	My group's been watching you for God over 10 years.
	So I've known Gordon for a while, but not for 10 years.
	But, uh, you know, he did lay it out there that they were watching me and I was unaware of that at the time.
	And of course, you know, he's, he's on the Damon's Corps, a defense contractor, uh, you know, I mean, it's, it's obvious.
	Uh, a lot of the people are, uh, work for various, uh, defense contractors are part of, uh, veterans today.
	There's several of them.
	There's CIA people there that are writing, there's others, you're seeing things come out you've never seen before.
	And Carrie, I give you credit, you've brought a lot of people that I know over the years, I won't mention names, that have brought out a lot of great information in the past couple, three years, stepped up the plate, put it out.
	Thank you, Stu.
	I appreciate that.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	You think we're really close to some kind of financial meltdown and I'm hearing again that China wants to become the reserve currency.
	Are you hearing any rumblings?
	Because I've also heard other people say But that's a reason for war, that the U.S.
	is not going to allow that to happen.
	Well, I don't know whether the U.S.
	can stop that.
	You know, China's a pretty big block in the financial world, a good third.
	And China, you know, if they go buy their gold back, which is being talked about, and supposedly they were going to do it last week, and go back to a gold-backed currency and write off all this derivative problem that they have.
	Uh, you know, that's, that's the right, I mean, we should be operating on a gold standard of some type, silver standard.
	Uh, that's the way the money currency should be operated on.
	And, uh, you know, there's a lot of problems.
	The problem is, the problem that we have worldwide is, right here in the United States of America, these punks, Daddy Bush, Leonard Mellman, Larry Mizell, and the Bush whole entire family, including Clintons, were all involved in this.
	And they did a worldwide meltdown, and they used our government, they used our SEC, they used our exchange, they've controlled the U.S.
	attorneys, they came from being prosecuted, and now it's biting America in the ass.
	And what's going to happen is America, we're going to get the blunt of it, the American people are, as a result of what they've done in the end.
	We're going to be punished for it, basically.
	The whole world hates us for what has gone on.
	And they point the finger at America.
	And nobody's prosecuting this.
	You know, Elizabeth Warren was up here screaming and yelling all over the TV here in the past couple days about the fact that why is it that nobody's been prosecuted?
	Who actually have you taken to court?
	I have a copy of the video I just stuck up on your Facebook page just before our program.
	Someone was starting to pass it around up on Facebook.
	I caught it and saw it and I watched it and it was very interesting.
	What she's saying, and she's telling the truth.
	Nobody's being prosecuted.
	You know, Kerry, I filed trying to take them on myself, and I don't want to get into all the crap that I've gone through as a result, but I've actually let it die because it's so corrupt to judge as a federal law.
	I tried to do an injunctive relief.
	I stated in there what they had done.
	Injunctive relief that they had been trying to kill me three times, burned a customer's house to the ground, all this in the past two and a half years.
	And I went into court in Kansas City in U.S.
	District Court and filed this.
	And I was attacked immediately by judge after judge of dismissal of dismissal.
	You don't have right to injunctive relief and all this other... And I'm stating this is a meltdown.
	Within two weeks after I filed, Kerry, the U.S.
	Attorney that's in charge of this task force Orders them up through the New York Attorney General to make an announcement that they're going to prosecute, or not prosecute, but that they are filing a lawsuit over the mortgages against Bank of America, and then they came along and said, Wells Fargo.
	I found that to be very interesting.
	Because they wouldn't have done anything if I hadn't filed that in federal court and let them up.
	Okay, so you're saying you named Wells Fargo, or they named them?
	I named Millman, I named Asset Investors, I named the whole cabal.
	On my left column of my internet site, right near the top, it says, StuWeb, let me get it right for you.
	It's a StuWeb versus, I think is the link.
	link.
	I took it down.
	I'll put it back up after the show, but it had Stu Webb versus, and right in there on that link, you can see where I filed in federal court, and I said these things.
	I I said these are the same people involved in the entire meltdown.
	They're involved in Gulf War Syndrome, selling the biological chemical agents to Iraq, that they've been involved in all these financial scams.
	I even put in over a trillion dollars with wire transfers into court evidence in the injunctive relief showing $100 billion a wire transfer from Daddy Bush to Leonard Millman in Denver, Colorado, and vice versa, and a half a trillion here and the whole Colorado, and vice versa, and a half a trillion here and I mean, bizarre.
	Nobody wires that kind of money.
	Nobody.
	These people do.
	It's because they've had control over the government.
	They've got control over the financial regulators.
	They've got control over the attorney general's office.
	And they've bought and sold better than half of the entire Congress of the United States.
	And it's all these AIPAC boys, the American-Israeli Pact.
	It's a Mossad operation.
	And Milman was Jewish mob.
	He was not the Russian mob.
	He was actually running around, is my understanding, I never knew this even nine months ago.
	He was running around with a Russian diplomatic passport all these years and couldn't be touched.
	He's actually alive, faked his death.
	He's living on the isle of Cuba and Mitt Romney made a few visits to him.
	I know Gordon ran down the association between Romney and Cuba and Castor and all of that It's a lot of fascinating stuff.
	There's a picture on my website of Mitt Romney with his Cuban girlfriend, which is the head of the KGB's daughter.
	It's dated February the 7th, 2013.
	You go up on my website, the right column, it shows Romney with his Cuban mistress visiting Cuba on the QG.
	Her father was Russian, is what they put on there.
	And what was Romney?
	Romney was a money launderer for them.
	Why did they want to keep the war in Afghanistan alive?
	Because you have Lindsey of South Carolina, an Israeli Mossad stooge, basically, answering to Israel.
	You got John McCain answering to Israel.
	I say answering to Israel, answering to this council of 13.
	And what do they want to do?
	And it was, of course, Lieberman.
	They kept the war alive in Afghanistan because they're getting their cut out of the deal, being on the Intelligence and the Armed Services Committee, being in there to keep the war alive.
	They're getting their cut out of the drugs that are coming out of Afghanistan, which is the opium fields.
	This is what America has come to.
	We have a cabal operating in control.
	And they're tied to the aliens, which you talked about earlier, and black budgets, and they're doing so much off the charts.
	There's technology out here, Carrie.
	You and I don't even know about, never will in our lifetime, if the planet exists that long.
	I hear you, but let me go back with you to the Cuba angle, because there's a new article on Veterans Today.
	I think it came out Fairly recently, not sure how new it is to be honest, but it was sent to me today and it's about Fidel Castro and his links to the CIA, strangely enough.
	And it is basically kind of blowing some of the misconceptions people had about the Cuban Missile Crisis, about what was really going on.
	And look, it's Veterans Today.
	Actually, it looks like it was December 6, 2012.
	I'm just scrolling down to see when the date was.
	But this is the kind of thing that's being put out by Gordon Duff.
	It appears that Castro was tied to the cartels, to Romney, money laundering, etc., etc.
	There is a link, though, that also goes to the Jesuits and back to the Vatican from there.
	And there's a very clear trail if you follow it, and today on my blog I put a bunch of links on there, and one in particular that goes back to Eric Phelps' book, which is the Vatican Assassins, and what was said then about the Black Pope, and the Black Pope being this guy Actually, Cloven Bok, or whatever his name is.
	Cloven Hoof, they called him, yes.
	Supposedly, he had a leg that was a goat hoof on him.
	That was an interesting story.
	Well, I'm not sure if that's the case, or if that's just a way of characterizing him, but his photograph is on that page, if you click the link on the blog.
	I have a photograph of him up on the page, a link that says on Sitemap, it says Illuminati Council 13 also.
	Okay.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	Great.
	Okay, so his name is Hans Klovenbach, and he's called the Jesuit General.
	Apparently, the white pope, which is the pope, the frontman that you see, and the one, Ratzinger, who's resigning.
	So he follows orders, right?
	He reports to the black pope.
	Yeah, but the black pope... Let me set something straight, because I am aware of this, that in November of 2004, Clovenhoof, they called him.
	He actually died.
	And there was a big funeral for him.
	I mean, he was high up in the satanic world.
	And there was a big funeral, and the Bushy showed up over there, the Queen of England showed up, and her little sidekick was on.
	Who took his place is the question.
	Because I actually got his name relatively recently as Steele being over there.
	No, he's dead.
	I had a source confirm it with me.
	I had one source back in 2004, and I said, is this guy really dead?
	Was he the devil himself in human form?
	And they said, Stu, he's the closest thing to being the devil.
	And yes, it's true, he did die.
	And there will be a quiet funeral and the whole bit, and you'll see, you know, that so-and-so's out of the country, or this one's out of the country, etc.
	And I watched it, and the whole bit.
	And it was hush-hush.
	But I know somebody that actually attended the funeral.
	I'll leave that, Kerry.
	Okay?
	This guy was high up.
	Very high up.
	He was probably the most evil of evil.
	Now, that current Pope that's resigning replaced him.
	They called him the Black Pope for a while.
	He replaced Clovenhoof in 2004.
	So there's a power change, is what my understanding is, in the Vatican at the current time.
	Okay, well, we'll be right back after this.
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	Hi, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot Whistleblower Radio, and we're talking to Stu Webb.
	We were just talking to him about the Black Pope, and, well, he calls it the Council of 13.
	And, actually, I'd like you to name those members, Stu.
	You were just going over some...
	We were talking about how Klovenbach most likely died, and I've just been doing a search on the internet, and apparently you're right.
	The latest Black Pope is Adolfo Pachione.
	I'm not sure how you say the last name, but the information is there.
	I'm going to be correcting my article here with the right name.
	But do you know the other members?
	Well, the council is Leonard Millman and Larry Mizell, his stooge front, since Millman had to go on hiding in Cuba because of the espionage.
	And I'll explain that part of it in a minute, about 16 intelligence agency report I want people to understand from you.
	But the council members are Leonard Millman, George Herbert Walker Bush, Myra Rothschild, David Rockefeller, Grace of Grace and Company.
	It used to be William Grace and his brother Tugover that tells the Queen of England what to do.
	Warburgs, Rothschild, Meyer Rothschild, the current Pope that's stepping down, and Anwar bin Sharif, the head of the rabbis, the head rabbi in the entire world, the head of the Hedron in Israel.
	Those are the ones that I'm familiar with.
	The others, I don't know who they are.
	I can't get that information.
	Nobody wants to talk about it, that are in the know.
	Okay.
	So you got, but you did get evidence that Millman is, or Mizell, is in that group, right?
	Millman and Mizell both are, yes.
	Okay.
	And they're all devil.
	What's interesting about this, Gary, the Council of 13, they worship the 13th, the devil.
	You had Christ and the 12 Apostles.
	You have the devil in his 12 minions.
	Okay, these are the 12.
	The 12 men that control the colonies of the world, that control everything of the world, and control the governments of the world.
	It's been a crime, and they're all crime syndicates, that's all they are.
	All interlocked, intertwined, and inter-ownershipped together.
	I hear you.
	Well, this is important stuff because people don't realize who, you know, where the actual power Sort of branches off and where it leads and and there's a lot of confusion about that.
	No doubt about it I still I'm wondering if you got any back channel information about why the Pope was resigning My information is contradicting some of the common information out there A lot of people are pointing at a certain article that it's being has been publicized by this individual named Kevin Annette and I believe is how you say his last name.
	And this people's court, it's an international court, it's the ITCCS.
	Yeah, Disinformation Campaign.
	If you go in, I believe to my website, I think Gordon Duff wrote the proper thing in his recent Go To My Side or Go To Veterans Today.
	And up on, I think it's the second or third, I'm looking now, second or third posting in my right column.
	uh... it talks about the pope you see a picture it's it says gordon duffy until dropped for the week this was uh... uh... it's dated february the fifteenth yesterday her uh... matter-of-fact this morning it was last time i put it up and it uh... it has some things in that in that story about the current pope and who's going to replace him and so on and so forth but what i've heard also from other sources and that's not only from what gordon has put out by i've talked to gordon a little bit about it
	But I've also talked to other sources in the intelligence world, CIA, NSA, all kinds of different sources, and they're telling me it's a power change, is what it amounts to, that they're putting some of the younger ones in power.
	It's like Meisel, he was put in power, he's, you know, Melbourne's 86 or 88 years of age now, and Larry Meisel's around 70, and he put him in power, and actually, Meisel, the word is with him, that he's turned over a lot of the power now, To those that are younger than him, that are in their 50s and their early 60s time frame.
	So, it's a power thing.
	These guys are so comfortable.
	And, you know, they've taken over everything.
	And now they're turning it over to what we're all fighting against, this new world order.
	You know, this Council of 13's only got 10,000 below them.
	They've got hundreds of thousands, I'll take that back.
	But it's about 10,000 in the control box.
	And they're the heads of these corporations.
	And mainly the banksters.
	And that's the deal.
	They have bought up and absorbed the major corporations and put their goons in place.
	You know, if there was ever a roundup, which I've always advocated, the legal arrest of them, the prosecution of them, the triumph and convict them, it caused economic plunder.
	And economic plunder under U.S.
	federal laws is the death penalty, Kerry.
	The death penalty.
	So they're all subject to it, even as a conspirator, co-conspirator to treason and sedition.
	Co-conspirator to economic plunder?
	That's the death penalty.
	You get it if you're convicted.
	These people should be put to death for what they've done to the entire planet.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, we'll be done as it may.
	Let's just look at this situation, though, from a different perspective a little bit.
	I'm wondering if you look at the current situation, have you heard anything?
	Because there seem to be some leaks About the current Pope, which is Ratzinger, doing some kind of pardon for the, what do they call them?
	One of the Cardinals or one of them?
	No, no, it was to do with the, God, what do they call them?
	Money laundering at the Vatican Bank?
	Direct money laundering?
	It has a lot to do with the bad blood between the Masons and the Knights Templars.
	Well, I don't know there's going to be a bad blood between the Templars and the Masons.
	name they're using.
	It has a lot to do with the history between the bad blood between the masons and the Knights Templars.
	Well, I don't know if there's going to be bad blood between the Templars and the masons.
	You know, the masons, it's just an organization.
	And everybody can blame the masons or point the fingers.
	That's not the problem.
	Many Masons are just, you know, they're sucked into this, and then the Templars, they're sucked into this, and the Templars have been around for years.
	God, they've been around since the time of Christ and Christ's death, and they move forward, and they ended up the money-changers.
	Okay, I just found the article.
	It's an article.
	It was put into The telegraph and that it came out on Saturday, the 16th of February, which were just a couple days ago.
	Basically, it said there was a Vatican paper that was set to clear the Knights Templar.
	So there's some kind of back channel deal going on.
	It would appear some kind of brokering of a deal and possibly, yes, a changing of the guard.
	I wouldn't be a bit surprised.
	And again, I would say it has more to do with someone behind the scenes, not to do with Ratzinger.
	Ratzinger is simply the front guy.
	He's the person people see.
	If you listen to our interview with Leo Zagami, the evidence of what he had to say back then was definitely what was going on in the Vatican was being orchestrated from behind the scenes by the black pope and not by the current pope. the evidence of what he had to say back then Okay.
	If I could read something to you.
	Go ahead.
	And I appreciate that because, you know, I'm not pretending to be an expert on everything and, you know, I just heard it was a change of guard going on over there.
	But I want to read something.
	It's on the site map on my left column.
	If you click on it and go down, we're in the third column from the left, alphabetical order, to say Illuminati Council 13.
	In there it has the picture of the black pope, Clovenhoof.
	His name was Peter Hans Clovenbach, but they called him Clovenhoof because he had a hoof, like the goat-headed demon.
	Now, whether that's true or not, I don't know.
	But during a period of time, back around 2002 to 2004, I was exposing this council really hard.
	I was putting the pressure on the fact that they were devil worshippers, that they do this, you know, like on the summer and winter solstice in Denver, and they do it over in Europe, and Jim Wessler, a preacher, had nailed them in Europe and actually got some of them arrested, not the council, but some of the others.
	Come on, you know, Bohemian Grove, this stuff is still going on.
	Well, yeah, it goes on all the time.
	Satanism is real.
	That's what we're all up against.
	We're up against the New World Order.
	These people, the council, are evils.
	They're evil people.
	It's good versus evil, bottom line.
	You're a good person, I'm a good person.
	We're up against the evil.
	Not all Americans, but a majority of the planet, us humans, we're up against this evil, and up against these aliens, which I believe to be fallen angels.
	But here's the deal.
	Around 2002 or 2004, and it's under Satanism on that sitemap also, But I was sent a letter after I exposed there, within three months, put it on the internet, had no internet site, started going like wildfire, viral on groups, all over Google and Yahoo and every place.
	All of a sudden, I started seeing heat out of the whole crowd, the council.
	And I got this email from Rockefeller Global Communications out of Australia.
	And it says the steps agenda to the New World Order.
	The steps will be number one, a complete, irresolvable collapse of Middle East peace.
	Two, Vatican City will fall to religious terrorists.
	Three, worldwide crackdown on all religions.
	All religions will be banned.
	Four, the United Nations will establish an interim one world government state, followed by a declaration of worldwide peace and security.
	5.
	Sudden and systematic collapse of Great Britain, China, and the United States governments.
	The rest of the world will fall into anarchy.
	Billions will perish.
	Only those of good will, meaning evil, and followers of the truth will survive.
	Whoever the truth is, evil.
	6.
	New system government of 144,000 members and 6 million subjects will take control.
	7.
	Massive cleanup operations will commence as new world order is created.
	Ecosystems will be restored, infrastructures rebuilt, sickness and disease will be eliminated, aging will be reversed, and the aging process itself will cease.
	A new, restored human family will gradually bring in the Earth into a paradisical condition under theocratic rule.
	Rockefeller's emailed Stew Webb.
	Okay, well, that's... Now, why did he send me that email?
	And above the email was my satanic worship story, and he marked the Rockefellers, the Millmans, the Bushes, and Henry Kissinger.
	That was one of the council members I missed further.
	Just one second, where did Australia fall into this?
	This happened to be that it was RockefellerGlobalCommunications.com out of Australia.
	And their logo, get this, this will really send your Christian followers nuts.
	Six, six, six all twined together as their logo around the planet.
	Okay, fine.
	But let me ask you, because we have evidence that Australia is considered to be sort of the head of the New World Order, that they trot out all their experimental New World Order technology in Australia first.
	Pine Gap is a huge underground installation.
	Yeah, that is.
	That is an alien base in there, yes.
	It's supposed to be the bastion of the New World Order.
	That there are many people like the Queen, etc., like...
	Well, high-level individuals buying land in Australia, hedging their bets against earth changes and hiding money and various assets in Australia.
	Have you heard anything to that effect?
	Well, I'm familiar with Pine Gap.
	It is an alien base.
	They call it an alien base.
	I call it the Fallen Angels, but alien base, just like you have one behind Denver, Colorado.
	Which is in the ARGO tunnel.
	You have one in Area 51.
	It's just interesting that the email that you received that's sort of basically laying on the line as far as what's going to happen when, in the future, is coming out of Australia and linked to the Rockefellers, right?
	Yes, that's where he was based.
	He was one of the nephews of David Rockefeller.
	If anyone reads, I think his name is Peter Beter, but he has these archives on the web.
	Fascinating individual that was an investigative journalist and basically was revealing a lot of the information about the New World Order, about cloning, etc.
	And there's evidence that most of these leaders are cloned.
	Possibly, people, you know, you can imagine that Klovenbach, maybe part of the confusion on whether he's alive or dead, is wrapped around the idea of whether he is indeed, you know, been cloned and is still around.
	Well, that's an interesting subject because I am aware of the cloning process.
	I was told back in the mid-90s that my ex-in-law, Leonard Mellman, and that Daddy Bush, and many others in this Council, Decided that they were, because they had perfected cloning enough, that they were going to clone themselves.
	So they picked women of Norwegian descent, and they picked them for whatever reason, maybe blonde hair, blue eyes, I don't know.
	But I was told that they cloned themselves 21 times over each.
	Why did they clone 21 times?
	And they took women from all over the world, And they took those women and they built them houses similar to what like Leonard Bellman grew up in or Daddy Bush grew up in and they built them homes and they gave them enough in an account each year to spend and they were two ways making made their lives very comfortable and they actually did it in the test tube first and then injected it into the womb of this woman and and grew the child.
	And this was their cloning process.
	So there's 21 of these little shithead Leonard Millman's running around the planet that I've been told that I, uh, you know, 21 years old, 1991.
	So what do we have about 22 years of age now each and daddy Bush's and supposedly looked like daddy Bush did when he was a kid.
	And supposedly looks like Leonard moment did when he was a kid because they have proven I mean, you can read about it all over the internet, but doctors will tell you that your genes and your ancestry are in you, and the memory of your ancestry are in you.
	You have, Kerry, the memory of your grandmother, your grandfather, your great-great-great.
	You ever have those déjà vu?
	Oh, wow, I've been here, I've seen that.
	Where did I see that at?
	You know, and you've never been there?
	I've had that happen to me many times.
	They say that's the memory of your, it comes down in your genes.
	Now, they're saying by cloning that they can retain about 80% of their memory when they become adults.
	Well, that's true or not, I don't know, but they've been cloning a long time.
	Hope, Arkansas, is a secret underground base for all the conspiratorial out there.
	Go down to Hope, Arkansas, that are in the Banana Republic state of Arkansas, the Rockefeller-Clinton crowd.
	And go home to Arkansas and up on that hilltop right there.
	Everybody in Hope knows where it's at.
	Just go ask anybody.
	And everybody coming out of their ownership chains are in white coats.
	Okay?
	I had a reporter at the Arkansas Democrat Gazette.
	We talked about this for four hours one night years ago.
	And he had been down there snooping, and he said he heard the same thing.
	They'd been cloning.
	And I got this from a guy in U.S.
	intelligence that was quite aware of it.
	They've been doing that since 1948, and there's a base up in South Dakota someplace as well.
	I don't know where it's at.
	I've never gone back and asked.
	But apparently they've been doing this a long time, Carrie.
	What are they after?
	Okay, what are they after?
	They're after... Jesse Shred did a show where he toured, I believe it was Hope, Arkansas.
	Oh, did you?
	Jeff, you've been sure it did, not me.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	Well, hope is the base.
	It's down there.
	And, you know, what are they after?
	What is the evil side after?
	We'll call it evil.
	I don't care whether the person believes in Christ or not, or whatever.
	I believe there's a God, and I believe in Christ personally.
	We'll leave it on the table with that.
	You know, everybody has their own belief, but we have a good versus an evil situation going on.
	We'll call it that.
	Okay.
	And what the evil is trying to do is they're trying to destroy mankind.
	They're trying to kill us with chemtrails, with all these viruses and all these chemicals and all the other crap that they're doing.
	They're trying to depopulate the earth by massive, like Iraq, Baghdad, going and dropping live nukes on Baghdad when they started the Iraq war.
	Okay.
	They've never been punished for that.
	Okay.
	But they caused a radiation poisoning that just killed They're estimating, off the charts, around a million and a half people died within two days over there.
	Okay?
	That was genocide by the Bushes, by the New World Order.
	They're after this.
	They're after the destruction of anybody that does not fit into their little game and won't follow their little game.
	And this is what it's about.
	And they're trying to screw up the human race.
	Why?
	The cloning process, replace them, put in their clones with their memory, play all this crazy stuff.
	It's all evil.
	You know, there's a book called the Book of Enoch that a lot believe is one of the missing books of the Bible.
	I happened to have the opportunity to read it one time.
	I blew my mind.
	They were cloning and they were doing other things similar to what we're doing today.
	And what was the Book of Enoch talking about?
	God destroyed Solomon and Gomorrah because they were so evil at that point.
	Yeah, right.
	God.
	I'm sorry, you know, I have to say this is basically the Anunnaki.
	It wasn't God, it was the Anunnaki.
	You know, this is where you get into... We have our own belief system as far as whether this is God or not.
	I understand that, Carrie, and I respect you for that, okay?
	Everybody has that right.
	It's all good.
	You know, call it what you will, but this situation...
	You know, Atlantis did fall, and there's most people that are around here today, many are reincarnated from Atlantis.
	They are reliving and reworking that time again, and we are basically at the same juncture, although there's evidence that humanity is going to move beyond and go in a different direction this time.
	So that is one thing that maybe you can focus on.
	At any rate, what I'd like to do at this point is see if there's any callers or any questions out there.
	We do have a call-in line on Revolution, so let me ask if there is anybody who would like to call in at this time to ask Stuart Webb some questions and drill down in these various areas that we've been talking about for the last couple hours.
	While we're waiting on the call, I'd like to touch on something that I think people ought to really be emphasizing.
	You know, Terry, we have this whole Occupy movement out here, and I thank God because they brought a lot of attention on the bankers, and it's really helped my cause, which has always been after my ex-in-law, which is one of the Illuminati bankers.
	And it was a gift from God.
	Well, I say, okay, you believe in one thing, I believe in God.
	It was a gift to me, in a sense, because it focused attention.
	They've been ineffective.
	They're out there trying to do their thing.
	It's like all these funder groups.
	You know, you've got the We Are Change after 9-1-1.
	You have all the various people that have been into various movements.
	You've got the movement of the Anti-NDAA Act and so forth.
	The thing is, everybody goes in a different direction.
	Everybody has something that they want to pursue as far as making change in America.
	But, you know, I would rather have myself, Kerry, I would rather have 12 intelligence officers that could be effective working with me than to work with 10 million American people that are all off in different directions.
	Because I can be more effective that way than I can working with 10 million people.
	Now, here's what I'm trying to get at.
	If everybody said, OK, you've got all that, you know, eliminate the Federal Reserve.
	OK, there's the problem.
	Eliminate the Federal Reserve.
	Get rid of the Federal Reserve and go back to gold-backed or silver-backed currency of the United States.
	Chop the, pardon the expression, chop the heads off the monster.
	You don't cut their tail off.
	You gotta cut their head off.
	That's where the problem lies.
	The second major part of the problem is the United States Congress and the Senate and the Justice Department combined, and the administration, and the regulators in America.
	Now, how do you chop the heads off the Congress and Senate?
	You go in and do a recall on them.
	It's simple to do.
	Matter of fact, I've got somebody, an attorney, working on it now to do a petition to recall here in Missouri, in Kansas.
	I went out intentionally to reach out to the NDAA group last weekend.
	About a dozen people were there holding up signs anti-NDAA, Google NDAA, etc., trying to wake up people in Kansas City.
	Now, I went out there intentionally just so I could try to organize some people.
	And to get out there among them and find out who's out there and say, okay, look, why don't we get effective?
	They want to get involved.
	Which is, to do recall, of those in Missouri and in Kansas, U.S.
	Senators and U.S.
	Congressmen who signed U.S.
	Representatives that signed the NDAA Act.
	Because they violated their fiduciary duty, their oath of office.
	They're in violation of fiduciary duty, just like a corporation.
	They hold a job in government And they have violated it.
	So therefore, that can be removed.
	So we're in the process of starting a campaign that maybe we can get everybody across the nation, put it up on the internet sites, and take your petition down, file with your Secretary of State's office, pay the filing fee or whatever, among a few of your buddies, whatever the fee is, maybe $100, $150, whatever it takes, and do your recall.
	And it's really simple.
	If they violate their oath of office in signing the Patriot Act, And they violated their oath of office signing the NDAA Act.
	That's over 70% of the entire old establishment, the Bush Council of 13 Crime Syndicate, that is in the United States Senate and Congress that can't get removed because of voter fraud.
	So that's a way to get them out.
	Then you get change.
	You have to change the establishment and you have to change the control box in order to have change.
	I'm not convinced of that.
	to that.
	Okay.
	There's an author named, he goes by the name of Michael Lindsey and Bill Calder is his actual name.
	I did an interview with him.
	He was on my show a while back.
	I talk to Bill quite often and I thank you for that connection.
	Yeah.
	And he talks about the right to issue a medium or money currency and basically says that because the Fed has that, has control over that, That's where their power comes from.
	He was take that away from them that take that out of their hands.
	I guess put it back in the hands of the Treasury and then make sure you have people that are responsible in the Treasury and that you begin to change the game doing that.
	I believe there's some validity to that, although certainly you need control over that.
	I'm just not sure it's going to solve the entire game, and I don't know how you're ever going to get control over that.
	The game has got to be played.
	The game has to be won by the Leather Nation or Federal Reserve.
	Two, get rid of these dirty congressmen and senators that are in the control of these Council of 13.
	And three, arrest the Council of 13 and those in America and grab the assets and put them back into a big fund so everybody can collect their pension funds back.
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	And I think that's all I need to say here.
	Stu.
	I just want to wrap up this Black Pope sort of conversation, etc., before we go on to the questions from the audience, and just say that my understanding is that the Third Secret of Fatima is factoring in here, that it's very likely that Ratzinger is simply following orders that the New World Order and the advent of the New World Religion, which is one religion
	Which is not going to be centered around the current church as we know it.
	It's basically they're working on a playbook, a playbook if you will.
	And so this is where all of these people are playing roles.
	They've been assigned roles and they know what to do, when to do it and so on.
	So this is my theory.
	This is the information I'm getting intuitively.
	None of the explanations out there are satisfactory in terms of what's really going on behind the scenes at the Vatican, and I certainly don't think that he's resigning because of some lawsuit, because of the People's Court, etc.
	No, I'm in agreement.
	I'm in agreement with you.
	You know, Malachi Martin was a high-level priest, and he was an assistant to the Pope that died, I believe, in 1979.
	Remember that Pope that was around before, Pope John?
	He was only in office like 32 days, and he died.
	They killed him, supposedly.
	Malachi Martin, I remember years ago, and I wasn't even awake to what was going on, Keri.
	You know, I was just a little home builder, building new homes and doing a heck of a lot of remodeling in my 20s, and at the time, early 20s, and I was here in Kansas City.
	And I came home one night, flipped the TV on and missed the news, and here's Johnny Carson on there, and they got this guy named Malachi Martin talking about the dead pope, and he was just dead, and the whole bit.
	So I watched it.
	I remember watching that, and it stuck in my brain.
	You know, I got kind of a photographic memory, but it was one of those events that stuck in my brain.
	And it was amazing, but years later, I come across the gal, back in 2001, named Kathleen Keating.
	And she was a talk show host that wanted to start, you know, she wanted to do a show with me, and she had a fairly large broadcast across the nation, etc.
	She was Malachi Martin's assistant.
	Uh-huh.
	And she had, she had, er, KathleenKeating.com, I believe her site's still up.
	I mean, I was on a radio program talking about 9-1-1 was going to happen for three months before it ever happened.
	Thinking it was going to come at the end of August is what I was hearing that they were going to allow a false flag attack, etc., etc.
	But Kathleen talked about exactly what you're telling me right now, and it just popped in my brain as you mentioned that.
	Yeah, let me just say Malachi Martin, I used to listen to him on Art Bell.
	He used to be good friends with Art Bell and used to be on Art Bell all the time for those of you that used to listen years ago to Art Bell.
	I used to listen to him almost every night and actually miss those days.
	Art Bell was really doing some cutting-edge radio at that time.
	And they targeted Art Bell, and you know who targeted him?
	Ted Gunderson.
	We did a show about that slimeball once, and you know what Art Bell did?
	He sued him, and guess what he got?
	He got paid one point, I think it was two or one point five million, whichever it was, undisclosed settlement that with EIG insurance company, the FBI's insurance company.
	Really?
	OK, well, I don't know about that.
	We do know that Gunderson died very quickly.
	He died of cancer.
	He was old and he had cancer.
	A lot of people tried it.
	I had lunch.
	I was going to interview him and he died within two months of that.
	Ted Gunderson had cancer for almost three years.
	He had prostate cancer.
	Well, not to his knowledge.
	I can tell you that.
	Well, okay, we've got different information.
	I can tell you my information comes from a person who was a good friend of Ted Gunderson's.
	His name is George Green.
	I know George Green.
	He knows me, okay?
	No, Gunderson was a slimeball.
	I had that guy crawl all over me all the time, driving down me and everything else.
	I know all about him.
	Let's move on because I can't really address that one way or the other.
	I've been there.
	I've done that, okay?
	All right.
	Let's just move on, yeah.
	All right.
	So, we've got a person asking, what do you think about Pete Centelli?
	Regarding the Gordon Duff situation.
	Pete Santelli took a conversation.
	Let me tell you about Pete.
	I'll just mention it one time and that's it.
	And no more.
	Never be addressed by me again.
	There's no reason to.
	It's iconic.
	Pete who now?
	Because he has no audience.
	And here's what happened to him.
	I'm not familiar with this and we've got some back channel static happening.
	Static, yes.
	Go right ahead and answer the question.
	Here's what, to answer your question, here's what happened.
	I did a show with Pete Santelli because he called me.
	And then I did another show.
	He called me again, asked me to do another one.
	Then Gordon Duff did the interview that's gone over a million worldwide on hundreds of sites worldwide.
	They've tracked it.
	So, all of a sudden, within a week, I get this call from Pete, and he says, I've got to talk to Gordon Duff.
	I've got to talk to Gordon Duff.
	And he kept howling at me for almost two weeks.
	I said, see if I can get him on the phone for you.
	Let me try.
	He was out of pocket.
	I called being out of pocket.
	I mean, you're gone, you're out of town, out of state, out of country or whatever, out of pocket.
	So finally, Gordon gives me a call when he got back and he says, what's up?
	And I told him and we talked about things.
	And then I said, you know, I got this talk to your host, Pete Sintelli, want to talk to you about this energy, free energy weapon of Dr. Judy Woods.
	Well, Dr. Judy Woods, I respect her.
	She has half-truths in her book.
	She's got a lot of good material, but it wasn't called free energy.
	It's called the death rate.
	Plus, there was a nuke that everybody's aware of that went off on the 80th floor of that building that day on 9-1-1.
	Plus, the old towers were wired and everything else.
	So, here's Pete Centelli.
	Gordon says, okay, I'll call him as a favor for Houston.
	He made the phone call to him.
	Centelli records his call.
	Of course, Gordon records all his calls.
	And then Centelli says, Gordon says, look, Centelli, you're not going to do anything good by pushing somebody's book.
	You know, the U.S.
	intelligence is covering up the same people, bad guys, are covering up for the government and the Bushes who were behind this.
	interlocked and behind it.
	It will always be a cover-up.
	You know, it comes down to, like a reporter once told me, Kerry, they said, you know, Stu, and he helped get the CCI exposed with me, with Jonathan Beatty at Time Magazine, George Williamson, Time Magazine, used to be a major reporter in San Francisco.
	He said, you know, Stu, he says, you've got the evidence.
	He says, all you need is, you know, the journalism, and you need a prosecutor.
	You gotta have those three things to make it happen.
	Otherwise, they'll cover it up.
	It's not going to happen.
	And he's very true.
	And I've heard this statement that was made by Gordon Duff from people in the intelligence world that said, you don't take a knife to a gunfight.
	Well, when he said that, meaning you don't go in there I've taken a knife to a gunfight because you're going to get shot up by the dirty feds.
	They're all trying to cover it up in the bushes.
	You know, you don't go in there with a book.
	That's not going to solve it.
	Quit trying to sell books.
	Well, he took that and immediately, oh, you're threatening me.
	And Gordon says, the rest of the conversation was, he says, you need mental help.
	You don't understand what I'm trying to tell you.
	Well, it happened to be that Pete Centore plays his recorded conversation illegally on the air, which is in violation of certain laws in certain states and certain federal laws.
	And they did the same thing, I'll repeat this, they did the same thing to me the other day.
	A Bruce Montalvo character did the same thing, calls me up for an interview, and I thought he was okay because I did a couple interviews in the past.
	And it turns out to be he's part of the new Santilli Radio Network, or Radio or something.
	Let me tell you something.
	What happened over this?
	American Freedom Radio, Santilli, was on 16 AM stations.
	He got fired.
	He will never, ever be able to air on AM or FM broadcast again because of the FCC.
	And he still is subject to have an arrest warrant issued out of Ohio for what he did.
	Gordon never pursued that.
	I have issued an arrest warrant for Centilli out of Missouri for threatening me the other day after this punk named Bruce Montalvo called me, wanted to do a recorded interview at 2 a.m.
	in the morning.
	I'm going to bed.
	I said, no, we have set it some other time.
	OK, tomorrow, two o'clock in the afternoon.
	I said, yeah, we could do it there.
	And then he starts engaging me in conversation.
	Why I'm sitting here working on a post to put on my internet, a few postings on my internet site.
	So I entertained him for a few minutes, and he started talking about Santilli.
	And I told him what had happened with Gordon and him.
	And he led me down a wrong path, and he recorded the conversation.
	I was getting mad, using the four-letter word a few times when Santilli's name came up, and that's basically what happened.
	And he turns around, and he plays my recorded conversation, which I recorded also.
	I record a lot myself.
	He plays it on the air illegally.
	Now, Montalvo committed a crime because FCC, so he'll never be able to, he's going to be soon kicked off of klatalk.com he's on.
	He'll soon be taken off by the FCC.
	The same way, the Cincinnati laws.
	Why these guys don't realize this is against the law?
	I mean, why would they risk having their licenses?
	Well, here's what I found out, and we have found out, that there's been this mortgage scam to cover up behind the scenes.
	So there's these so-called brokers, dealers, these guys out here saying, oh, I can save you from collapsing on your mortgages.
	Oh, Oh, if you're behind on your mortgage, contact me.
	I'll work with your lender for you and get it fixed.
	And you'll be right side up and you won't lose your house.
	It's the biggest scam there ever was.
	That's what Pete Centelli does for a living.
	Okay.
	And Pete Sintilli apparently has been approached, according to U.S. intelligence, he has been approached by Leonard Millman's crowd and offered a huge sum of money to get behind him and his new network, he calls it, in exchange for "you drive a wedge" between Stu Webb, Gordon Duff, in exchange for "you drive a wedge" between Stu Webb, Gordon Duff, and Okay.
	That's bottom line in the story.
	All right.
	So let's drop that.
	Let me just say that recording people against their will is absolutely, it's bad journalism, but it also is against the law.
	So that's a fact.
	And I can tell you that bringing, what did he say, bringing a knife to a gunfight, these are common ways of talking and I think that he was talking about the weapons used in 9-11 and why one thing would be used over another.
	It sounds like it wasn't directed personally, but it sounds like perhaps Santilli took it personal.
	No, Sand Kelly, let me tell you, it wasn't, I heard, Gordon played the rest of that conversation to me.
	I heard it myself.
	Listen to the conversation, it is on the web.
	So, let's not go down that road any further, but let's answer some more questions that are cropping up in the chat, because we've only got 15 minutes or less left in the show, and I know people are excited to hear from you, Gordon.
	So, let me see.
	I mean, Stu.
	So, my mind is going a million miles a minute here.
	Someone wants me to ask you, it looks like, okay, the question is, I'm having to scroll back here.
	Alright, I'm not sure that these questions are really On the same topic, or are they actually repeating the same information?
	You probably get a lot of disinformation artists up there, because I did post probably about 20 places on the internet, on Facebook, and different places before I came on the air with you.
	Because people, there's a lot of people always, oh, Stu, if you're going to do a show, let me know, let me know.
	So, I posted it up there on a few groups that I belong to, so.
	There are those that, you know, like tonight, you got your trolls, and you got your different ones, and I, as tonight, I had to eliminate, matter of fact, take them off my friend list, three people that immediately jumped on that, because I'm a psychopath.
	It's the noise, and it's the knowledge that I have.
	It's the knowledge.
	And it's 28 years with the library.
	I hold a Ph.D.
	at the University of the Bush Crime Synagogue, and there's very few people who have that Most people, by the time they get out of diapers with the, you know, the, I won't even mention talk shows, but a lot of the disinformation artists out here, and by the time they get out of diapers with them and get into the truth movement, it's called, and they start really seeing stuff during kindergarten.
	Well, if you ever graduate like you have out of high school, And in the college, like you have into the Bush Crime Syndicate, you become dangerous to the enemy, and therefore, your library card expires, as George Bush says.
	That means you get killed.
	I get it.
	Have you had those kind of problems, Karen?
	Yes, I have.
	Yes, because you've got, you've got, you have graduated out of high school, and you've come to, with all the people that you've interviewed, and come to know, and what you dig on, and I give you credit for that, you've come to the Bush Crime Syndicate New World Order University.
	And where you're at in that, I don't know, but I would say that you're past the high school stage and in the university stage.
	Without being condescending, and I have to say that I appreciate your own knowledge, Stu, but I'm not going to try to run that race with you, because it's really not a competition.
	No, it isn't.
	But I'm giving you credit because you've interviewed enough people, you've come to know a lot of things.
	And you've acquired that library where people, the American people, are so budsterized, as George Bush calls them, the bud people, the broke, the useless, and depressed.
	They're so budsterized, they watch TV, they see garbage all over the internet, and they all believe whatever they see, instead of listening to people that are knowledgeable I mean, I give you credit.
	You're one of the few talk show hosts out here.
	You're medium level.
	You aren't huge, but you're in good size.
	I wish you had your program on a mainstream TV program someplace and put up all the people that you put on.
	It would cause chaos.
	A revolution would have already happened.
	And I would be happy, because I would be on some beach someplace, soaking up some sun, eating some lobster or shrimp, and I wouldn't be out here, you know, playing the game of making noise that I do to stay alive.
	I appreciate it.
	Okay.
	With that in mind, I've got somebody asking, has there been any recent attempts on your life?
	Not so much lately, because they're aware I've got a 45 with black hole points in it.
	I'll put it that way.
	All right.
	And you've also got some new friends on the block, so to speak.
	I've had friends on the block.
	I'm just getting a lot more muscle and juice on the military side that's been around with me for a long time.
	Okay.
	Fair enough.
	Someone wants to know, how did you get evidence of the Bush money wire transfers?
	Not sure what they're specifically referring to there, but does that make sense to you?
	Yeah, well, I have been after the Bushes, my ex-in-law, Leonard Mellman, his partner.
	We're all the Bushes and the Clintons.
	I've been after him since 1986, investigating him.
	And I've just, I mean, there's been 500 stories written in mainstream media up to 1993 about him.
	There's only been a couple dozen in mainstream media since that time.
	There has been a massive amount of reporting by major journalists in Time Magazine and all the other stuff until 1993 when they bought up the media, okay, and took control of the media.
	And the question is, how do I get the information?
	You know, when you get locked up with 3,000 Iran-Contra players, And nine out of ten of them worked for the government in the capacity of a Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the FBI's counterintelligence, and you got a hell of a lot of bad guys that are locked up because George Bush, they became a liability.
	And military intelligence.
	Well, that was my first original, should we say, group of sources.
	Alright, so you're saying you had sources because you were locked up with them?
	Yeah, he's a political prisoner.
	I don't give the information out where I got something or anything.
	It's there.
	The wire transfers are there.
	Additional breaking news, you can see it.
	All right, fine.
	We've got somebody else asking, are there any other real prosperity packages apart from the WANTA-Reagan protocols?
	No, these global settlements are all bull. - Cool.
	There's something going around with global settlements and all this other crap that's all bull.
	There isn't.
	The Reagan-Naderan protocol is going to do nothing but put $1.5 trillion of Leo Wanta's money in taxes into the U.S.
	Treasury.
	And Jack Lew is going to put it and sign it immediately and transfer it the day he takes office, the new Secretary of Treasury.
	Terry, you do have a caller on the line.
	All right.
	Very fine.
	Who is going to be the new Secretary of Treasury?
	Jack Lew.
	OK.
	Has that been in the news?
	It's all over the news.
	He'll be confirmed probably within a couple weeks.
	I see.
	All right.
	OK.
	Caller, go right ahead.
	You are on the air.
	406, that is.
	- 406, that is. - Okay, 406. - Oh, hi, Remy. - I guess we've got more than one caller, looks like.
	OK.
	406.
	406, it looks like there's a 414 as well.
	We got two people on the line here, or one?
	Two.
	406, go first.
	Okay, 406, go right ahead.
	All right, thanks.
	Hey, Stila, I love the work you do, but I've been chatting here on the chat line.
	The only thing I I don't want to say disagree with or question is, um, and let me preface this again here.
	I agree with everything you're saying, but as the people on the chat have seen, I'm saying use discernment.
	So if these people are so powerful, right?
	And they want, and they don't want all this information to get out.
	Why are you still alive, other than just having a .45 on your side?
	Because if they really wanted to take you out, they could.
	And it could have been a long, long, long time ago.
	The answer to that is that I believe in God, I believe in Christ, I believe in angels of protection, and I believe that I have them, I ask for them daily, and according to my belief and faith, that's the reason I'm alive.
	Okay, there's where I'd leave it.
	I mean, everybody has their own religious views.
	That's fair enough, and I agree with Stu.
	I'm definitely protected, as are many of us, by angels of light, or whatever you want to call them.
	But there's another side to that that has to do with the Illuminati, the basic sort of deal that they have with reality on the planet here, which is they have to tell you what they're going to do before they do it.
	It absolves them of a certain amount of what you might call karma, although it's not literally karma, but there's definitely a payback that comes along with what they do in terms of what they have to deal with.
	So they like to get out of that by telling you what they're going to do before they do it.
	And what they do is use people like us for a multitude of things, one of which is that.
	Another thing is because it's like bees to honey.
	So we put out the honey, the bees come, and they can pick off or know who their enemies are.
	And so they need us out there fighting the good fight.
	And that's a fact.
	And another side to that, if I may add something, Carrie, to the person calling in.
	You know, if I step out of line, let me tell you something.
	If I step out of line in God's will, I'm screwed.
	I admit that.
	I'm in deep, deep doo-doo.
	Then the enemy can come in and target me.
	I'll leave it at that.
	Stu?
	Yes.
	Stu, yeah, and the purpose of this call was not to impugn you or anything at all, because I agree with everything you're saying, okay?
	I'm just trying to use discernment, and I'm trying to find out who the real whistleblowers are versus the false whistleblowers are.
	I'm not saying you are a false whistleblower at all.
	It's so maddening when you've gone down the rabbit hole like I have to do this and find out what is really going on and who is to be believed and who isn't.
	And I like your answer.
	I mean, I really do like your answer.
	The fact that, you know, you didn't come back at me with, oh, well, I have this person on my side and this person on my side.
	You came back with God.
	You know what?
	Cooter, see ya.
	Thanks for calling.
	Caller 406, thank you very much.
	We're going to go to the next person, if you don't mind.
	Thank you.
	Okay, we've got caller 414.
	414, you're on the air.
	Hey, what's going on Karen?
	Hey there.
	Well, you know, I just wanted to call in.
	You know, listening to, you know, the last caller and, you know, we are talking about, you know, a lot of pretty grim things.
	And, you know, I just, I just really just kind of wanted to, you know, maybe put a, put a little hope out there, you know, that, you know, we are listening to a lot of really good information from you guys and I really appreciate it and really, really need that.
	But at the same rate, you know, we all need to kind of continue to listen and inform ourselves, but
	We also need to start, you know, doing things to change the world and, you know, you can back and hang your town, you know, you can start community gardens and, you know, meet people locally at, you know, food, organic food stores and things and, you know, I just really hope people can, you know, this year we really, you know, need to get active and not just sit around looking at things.
	But I really thank you guys.
	Well, thank you for calling in, and as I say, the American Revolution continues in 2013.
	No doubt about it.
	Well, we are all working very hard behind the scenes, Caller, in many, many different ways, and not all of them are publicized.
	You know, as they say, revolutions will not be televised.
	Yeah, that's true.
	And sources can't be televised, right, Gary?
	Yep.
	That's right.
	They don't even want to go on camera nowadays, so I won't tell you, but they're still out there and they're still giving us information.
	So, thank you.
	We're fighting the good fight as best we can do.
	All right.
	Do we have another caller?
	Looks like area code.
	Ma'am, that's it.
	That's it?
	Okay.
	All right, well, we've got, I'm being told, three minutes left.
	Stu, you want to cover any last-minute things?
	You want to update people on what's coming up with you, or any thoughts?
	Well, other than the fact that my site will be mobile soon, and here's what I want to say.
	One, how do we change America?
	One, in my opinion.
	I mean, we've got evil sources.
	I mean, forces.
	Okay?
	But how do we change our country?
	It's the one going down the tubes, because they've got to break America.
	We're the power base.
	So, if the new world order wants to do that, we've got to fight back.
	How do we do it?
	One, we get rid of the Fed, in my opinion.
	Get rid of the Federal Reserve.
	Go back to a money that's controlled by the Congress and the Senate, the way it was set up underneath the Constitution.
	Number two, do massive recall.
	Of all these Congressmen and Senators, not the 100 that just got in office, but the other 435.
	Get rid of them.
	Get them all out who violated their oath of office.
	By signing the Patriot Act and the NDA Act and other things.
	And it's real simple to look at the financial statements.
	You can get them online.
	They have to submit them to become a Congressman or Senator.
	Look for the wives' trusts.
	Look for the trusts in the sons' and daughters' names.
	Go back to who filed those trusts.
	It always goes back to two names.
	One, Norman Brownstein, and the other is another attorney, and it always ends up back in Denver, Colorado.
	Then go backwards in the trust, and find out who owns what corporations in the trust, to find out the payoffs in their dirt.
	It's really, it's usually an ownership in an apartment complex where they robbed the HUD from.
	Flowed back many years.
	It's been one of the biggest shady banks.
	And the third is to get and demand that the prosecution Gary, thank you for having me.
	Thank you very much.
	- Thank you Wes for coming on the show.
	We don't have any more time.
	We'll have him back again.
	- Gary, thank you for having me.
	- How I'm having you.
	Thank you very much.
	Have a great weekend. - You too. - We're in a narco-syndicalist commune.
	We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
	Yes.
	But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting.
	Yes, I see.
	By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs.
	Be quiet!
	But by a two-thirds majority in the case of more... Be quiet!
	I order you to be quiet!
	Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left!
	Yes, I have!
	Look!
	It's just a flesh wound.
	I don't believe her.
	I've never seen such a display of courage, skill, nerve, grace, and stupidity.
	I'll do you for that!
	Do what?
	Come here!
	What are you gonna do, bleed on me?
	I'm invincible!
	You're a loony.

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