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Nov. 28, 2012 - Project Camelot
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PROJECT CAMELOT: RICHARD ALAN MILLER : MAGUS WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD
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Thank you.
This is a guy that I didn't know I'd been hearing about for years, but I hadn't.
My son's, one of his favorite books, I'll tell you something about my son, he was a teenager, was the Anarchist Cookbook.
Now the Anarchist Cookbook has one official author on there, but there were two unofficial co-authors.
So Rick did, he's the oldest living man in black, M.I.V., according to some people.
According to some.
And he is the original holder from the X-Files.
He was Navy SEAL trainer in Black Ops operation for the Navy.
And he was also recruited as a high school senior.
He made these science projects that looked like they're straight out of New York.
And one of his science projects has been on the Venus probe.
It was Mariner Flyby Mars.
In my junior year, I came up with a new Maison field here, which talked about the muon.
At that time, we called it a Maison.
That's a subatomic particle.
But now it's considered an elementary particle, and it's the particle that is responsible for...
Now, this is a junior in high school.
This is a responsible...
His dad worked for Boeing.
Yeah, for cold fusion.
It's how we now understand how cold fusion...
So as a junior in high school, his science project ends up getting on the Mariner probe to fly by Mars to see if there's water on Mars.
Right now, as of last week...
Now, Rick, you've got to let me introduce you.
Okay.
It doesn't matter quite.
Anyway, he got recruited by the Navy, and after a number of years in there, been working on their...
Mind control stuff, chip implants, men in black kind of stuff.
He finally decided that it wasn't for him and he bailed into the world of alternative agriculture and doing medicinal and pharmaceutical herbs and teaching people how to make herb crops for profit all around the world.
So he became one of the foremost Okay, so what I'm doing on Sunday will be basically the same training I did Navy SEALs 1974!
Can you imagine?
And I'm going to do it again for civilians, and I'm going to do it just like I would have done Navy Seals.
Basically what I'll do is take a baseline on you, like we did, and then I'll teach you the The theory, it's a model for your mind's eye.
It doesn't really matter how it works.
Once you have it in your mind's eye, you've got it.
That's how it works.
And it doesn't matter about the math and the explanations.
It's 50% of everything starts right here in the mind's eye.
Now, once we do that, I'll take you through some guided imaging.
It turns out that there's a state, you have a whole series of consciousnesses.
We have tweaking, paranoia, etc.
There's a space right there where your ability and guessing increases over 400 times where you are right now.
This means it's beyond space and time.
I was at Mission Control when I did Edgar Mitchell's experiments.
We discovered that was what I did.
And this book I was the one that debriefed him when he was infected from Yugoslavia and had developed some concepts on what ESP is and what it is not.
What Matt has done is made it A better way of expressing it so that everybody gets it is critical decision-making power tools.
What I have is a second book coming out on the eight protocols that I developed for Navy SEALs to make it Superman, and that includes biofeedback, brain drivers, learning how to do continuous breathing.
Imagine you come in and you slap someone, but you came in and kept that for six minutes breathing.
Now the kinds of energy that you can do through your body with breath control is outstanding.
One of the other power tools is like the difference between Hangao where you're boxing and where you do it in slow motion which is called Tai Chi.
If you are trained correctly it's all about breath control and you start to hallucinate so that when you're boxing you can experience the perfectness of the movement So that you can come through.
And you're doing it fast.
You experience it as slow because you're hallucinating.
It's a technique that we learned where you're not losing consciousness.
You're holding an edge on it so that you have the control of your perception of time.
Sorry about that.
I am animated, so I walk around a lot.
Basically, these tools can be used For your own personal evolution.
You know, the rapture didn't come get mad.
I'm sitting here waiting to be evolved, you know, and I decided that I had to do that on my own.
And so I've written books on spirituality.
I've gone into Jungian psychotherapy and tried this one.
Dr.
Stanley Krippner and some others who were my mentors wrote for me on that.
I've written books in agriculture.
That's why they call me the postman.
Because what I'm trying to do now is start a new concept in food where it's your divine right.
Gurdjieff said to eat your environment.
Now every region here has a biosphere with edibles.
Native plants of commercial importance.
There it is.
And so I was MacGyver.
I basically taught how to live with your environment.
And if you wanted a Dorito corn chip, you can barter it for the absence that I made with my wormwood.
Well, that's how it's going to work.
Because if you take it off the monetary system, now that changes everything because now the government can't regulate you as a terrorist growing food for profit.
And Monsanto can't come at you with their GMO thing and you have a sovereign base and actually gardening is a recreational sport.
It's as tough as soccer is and if you set up demonstration farms which is what we're doing now with the 1000 new garden program across the country where the kids The people that are going to save our ass, okay, are going to be the ones that are under six years old right now.
And I'm telling you that right up front.
That's how it's going to work.
All of you in the educational systems have gone to the point where it's not going to happen any other way.
It's going to be the young kids that do it.
And so I'm going to be Mr.
Wizard.
And today, kids, we're going to learn how to germinate marijuana seed.
I'm just kidding.
But that's the basic concept of changing men's values and the importance of belief systems and not to use them as drivers.
Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and we are here with Richard Alan Miller.
He's a physicist and an explorer of consciousness and probably a master magician.
Magus is what they call him.
Oh, no!
Oh, no!
I just hate it when we do that.
Yeah, and I'm going to say that probably in some ways you're kind of like the original Doctor Who.
Well, that's English.
I'm more like Doctor Strange.
You're Doctor Strange.
And you're probably also maybe the Aleister Crowley of this movie.
No, I'm going to be part of a group of magicians.
We'll try to show how, at this moment in time, changing lifestyles can be, you know, you can use systems like magic.
Magic's a higher form of physics.
It's breaker, breaker, one, seven, come on.
You imagine that in the 1800s, they wouldn't get it.
Actually, in case we can't appear in a minute, I personally think that we were visited in the 1850s, probably around the Carrington period, and there are now two societies that exist, that one has space travel and one that does not.
I have seen top secret documents when I worked at Boeing.
Indicating that we were off to Mars before we even thought about the moon.
The moon didn't have any cheese.
There was nothing there for us.
Maybe there's a secret base or something.
I don't know about that part.
Really, I don't.
But what I do know is it's a gravity well, and if you're going to do anything in space, satellites, systems defense, whatever, you do it from L5 positions, not on the moon.
And that moon costs money.
There's nothing there to work with.
Mars, That's water.
In fact, I'm going to put it on my website, just a little visual so everybody gets it.
Earth, Moon, and right in the middle they have a little doll, and that's the amount of water that's on the Earth.
And then, because of the recent landings, we now know how much water literally is on Mars, and to put that little dot there next to our dot, it's bigger.
Mars is much smaller.
It's a water part.
And here we are.
We have these centuries and we've been thinking.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Mars was a water planet.
Well, that's mythology and the asteroid belt and the blah, blah, blah.
You don't believe that it ended up to be sort of almost a nuclear winter on Mars that surfaced to Mars?
I don't know.
I hadn't talked to me in my past lives there on that one.
I think...
There is a thing going on here that has nothing to do with Mars, because in fact, the studies I did with military, I saw planet Uranus This came out of Cosmobiology, it was a Yugoslavian project, and I did a 360 at Boeing to try to capture, reproduce their data to see if it was configured right.
And when the planet Uranus, this was the Department of the Interior, Menlo Park, the grant that gave to me, that when Uranus was in a certain position with the Earth and the Sun, there was a three-signator coefficient of earthquakes.
So then I had to ask, well, what is The storms on Jupiter.
What does that mean?
It's all in metaphor.
And what is your metaphor to the surgery paradigm?
That's the part where we have to look at things not spatially.
Okay, because that's kind of an illusion of just certain senses.
The body has other senses.
We're now discovering how birds can...
Flock and migrate because of pericoupling in their eye and being able to see the shifts of the gravity fields.
Okay, well, what about the idea that...
Man has that, too, by the way.
Yes.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Yeah, exactly.
So, what about the idea that you actually follow...
You're following a trajectory that's an inner trajectory.
That's correct.
There's something else going on here in the physical plane.
We've missed the whole point of it.
In advance of coming here, so to speak.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You know, I really don't know.
What I do know is...
Are you a precog?
No, I... I can do anything I want to do, and so can you.
In fact, I'm going to teach people how I got seals to do that.
I understand.
But you yourself have done this.
Oh, yeah.
I won the contest.
Nasa Canoe, Carl Wysheiski, Llewellyn, 1965, brought Gene Dixon and Civil League and all these people in.
Record in history.
And they invited me in to show how the seals do it.
And I won it by three orders of magnitude times.
Top Psychic there.
I won that Psychic tournament.
It wasn't about me.
It wasn't about me.
Ingo Swann?
What?
Beyond Ingo Swann?
Ingo Swann was at that time still in Chicago, I don't think.
I don't remember if Inga Swann was there or not.
I know that there were several others.
How about Pat Price?
Did you know Pat Price?
No, I don't know.
I didn't know the people.
Hal Puthoff was younger.
He was a younger generation.
We're talking 1985.
Hal Puthoff is younger than you?
I don't know how old he is.
I thought that he was at SRI in the 80s, not the 70s.
I was doing the 70s.
That's what I meant.
I don't know how old he is.
You know, I worked with Tiller and Fluharach is who I worked with.
Yeah, Fluharach.
You mentioned him a number of times.
Well, Fluharach was one of my teachers.
What about Yuri Geller?
Did you work with him?
Uri Geller was his protege.
I was the one that busted Uri Geller at SR. I cartooned him.
I didn't want to bust him.
Uri Geller was that Geller couldn't do it just at any given moment.
He could do it.
We've mentioned that.
We've confirmed something's going on here.
When he started cheating for ladies and that kind of thing, where the ego was involved, it caught him.
What took the whole data out the door was a baby with a bathwater.
And that was the shame about that.
That Klugin was doing the same thing.
Moving her, didn't stop.
It was moving her.
I was thinking of a magnet.
I remember the great Randy did a challenge, because he didn't believe any of it.
What would be really interesting is to teach you this step.
No, it's alright.
Teach you this technique, and then challenge is one million dollar challenge where you can prove you can do paranormal.
And that takes care of him, and that takes care of the million dollar challenge.
You can probably talk him into it for the media, publicity.
The whole point would be, Randy has this million dollar challenge, I'd love to see you go after him.
I think that would be, because all you have to do is verify it with a team of science.
Now, what that will really do, A million dollars isn't important.
It makes ESP in the same category that hypnosis was when I was in the seventies.
In the seventies there was, still Boeing didn't exist and there was no certification programs and those kinds of things and now it's turned for ESP. And ESP isn't ESP, it's, you already know, it's just consciousness That isn't the real deal.
And you need to learn how to go to certain places that you can do things that you can't do here.
And this place, you can blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay.
Okay, well, we're all magicians, okay?
That is correct.
And so I think that we would definitely agree on that.
Now, what I want to do here...
Is back you up.
I want you to tell me, you know, we just had a conversation over lunch.
Yeah, sure.
Well, we'll do that.
And we did a little preliminary.
You'll chew me up and I'll just, well, give it up.
No, but I would like to just hear a little bit about your early childhood.
Oh.
I don't want you to go into detail.
I don't want you to get in the emotional place or whatever.
I want people to understand how really amazing you are.
And so we're going to go still.
No, you are amazing.
Well, if that's true, guess what?
You can easily, in this lifetime, be what I am if you want to do that.
Hey, we're both amazing.
How's that?
You good?
Okay, so, we're all amazing.
Humans are amazing.
In my eyes, well, see, I see humanity as an amazing vehicle.
Rudolf Sange says we're devolving.
What do you think of that?
Maybe some of us are.
Well, that's why we have Joseph Campbell that says, when you see the kingdom of the Father on Earth, the apocalypse has already occurred.
It's perpetual.
And so, when you talk about past lives...
It's called the Net or No, that moment of nexus.
That, by the way, that neurotransmitter you didn't talk about was like a certain guess, and am I for Larry?
He has alcohol and marijuana.
Okay, we're going to go to Larry.
I got you, but I thought I'd like that.
Yeah, thank you.
You're welcome.
Let's start at the very beginning.
I love it.
You were born in the Philippines.
No, I was born in Washington.
I spent some time as a child in the Philippines, so I couldn't spell.
I couldn't read English in fourth grade.
I had a special teacher that then kept me out of school and taught me how to read in fifth grade.
In our local library, any book that had a little science fiction mark on it, I'd read it.
Just consume that all.
And then in sixth grade, I got a chem craft chemistry set.
I was making pipe bombs when I was 12 years old.
Okay, but slow, slow, slow down.
So your real father was not the man who raised you, right?
That is correct.
I don't see my father.
My father's the one who gave me my humor.
Your real father?
No.
My father.
My father gave me my humor.
Gave me my sense of rigor.
Gave me my sense of...
And he was a Navy man?
Yeah.
Okay.
But the man before, the one whose genes you have, so to speak, right?
You mean the Nelson one?
Yeah.
Lord Nelson?
Yeah.
Kill them all!
I'll let God sort it out!
Okay?
Really?
Oh no, that was earlier.
Okay, but was your mother's line Nelson or was it your father's line?
My mother's.
Your mother's was Nelson.
They came in on the Whitman train.
Do you know what your father's line was?
No, I don't.
I've never...
I've got what I've got to meet with me.
I've obviously got German.
I've always got English.
You've got the blue eyes.
Yeah, Aryan.
I'm going to talk about that a little bit later.
We're going to circle back around there.
Now, can I broach the subject of what that, like, sort of, someone would say, sort of a crystallizing, catalyzing incident in which you were thrown in heaven as a very young child?
This is time.
You know, confabulation.
Who knows?
You don't know.
I have memories.
Okay.
Are they real?
Do you have real buildings?
My memory seems to be pretty good.
Would your mother remember this memory?
It happened, maybe not the way I remember it, you know, as a four year old.
But somehow you ended up in the oven and you got a lot of burns and you had to go to the hospital?
Yes, no, I don't know what happened.
I know that then I remember when my mother introduced me.
Okay, so you had that incident.
That may have affected you.
It made you...
So you were unique?
You had a certain kind of...
Places in the brain, birthing.
Yes, of course.
That's Steve Gaskins and the farm and his spiritual midwifery and the way you're brought into the life and what happens...
Pre-sets, certain belief systems, assumed truths, you know...
Okay, but in a certain way, that's...
I mean, it may not have been intentional like that, or maybe it was intentional, but there is an Illuminati...
Torture element.
Illuminated is just like they did in the movies.
Illuminated, they were scientists.
They were the scientist part of the church.
Of the equals.
No, of the Church of Rome.
The illuminated ones were the scientists for the church.
And what happened over the years of Weishaupt and all of the early stuff, confabulation of memory, It isn't what happened.
It's what you do right now that makes the moment.
And it's not about the past.
Right now...
Okay, but what I'm getting at here is that as a child, there's a certain catalyzing event that actually forces you...
It's kind of like if you take a bottle or whatever, a container, and you squeeze it.
And then what's inside starts to come out.
Are you with me?
You mean that toothpaste where sometimes you have to push it real hard?
Whatever you want to call it.
I hate it when I do that.
This is what goes on.
Oh, that rod through your ear?
From there, if we move forward.
Right.
At that point, what would you say is like the next...
Major incident that you remember?
Because I'm very curious.
I had a knee go out when I was 15.
You had a what?
I had my knee break at age 15.
From what?
Football.
I see.
Right.
I was an athlete.
You were?
Yeah.
And I re-grew it back.
You did?
Yes, I did.
Then I had it happened another time and then I had an artificial and now I can Argentina Tango.
Okay, alright, so at some point you kind of turned to science, right?
I was always science.
I was always, you know, I was at a science club when I was in fourth grade, even though I couldn't read English.
I couldn't read.
So you had that liberty?
Oh yeah, four year old.
That's the four year old that never becomes seven.
Why?
What does that mean?
There's a MENTAC in terms of your wiring that changes from when you're age 4 to when you're age 7.
Right.
You go from eudetic imaging to a different way of brain storage.
Okay.
Okay, I never made that change.
You did.
But now I'm 68.
You're a little 68-year-old brat that, by divine right, you know, by divine right, has a sense of where we should go.
Okay.
Alright, so you won the science fair.
What was that?
Were you 12?
In 1960, that was my junior year in high school, Mount Rainier High School, I won the Navy Cruiser Awards, Army Awards, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It was a new Maison field theory.
And it included a new elementary particle called the muon that generated tachyons.
And did you say you built a linear accelerator?
That was the second year.
Then I applied that thing by creating a linear accelerator, a hydrogen bubble chamber, and created particles going faster than the speed of light.
And that was 1961.
And you were still in high school, right?
Right.
And I went to New York for the National Science Fair.
Okay.
And I came in second.
Guess who came in number one?
Ha ha ha ha!
It was Robert Trump from New York.
I was always number 2.
And that was in my high school years.
Then I went to Washington State University.
I started at the UW. But you said they had their eye on you, so to speak.
Your father was in the Navy.
Well, as I won all of these awards, I had the old man DuPont start orchestrating my education.
Did you know that for a fact?
No, not yet.
I know that now, going back, having access.
The first inkling was in 1970, when I saw the three top secret documents.
And the first one said, the Mariner 1, fly by on Mars, discovered water on Mars using my protocols.
And that's when I realized.
And then the second top secret document.
They detonated a nuclear warhead on the south pole of Mars and it didn't work.
I don't know.
I just saw that a detonation had occurred as a form of terraforming.
Do you know what being on Mars would be like right now without it terraformed?
Tell me.
Okay.
If you're standing on the surface Your feet are at 72 degrees.
The air is so thin that you're at a minus 5 at the top of your head.
That's how quickly the temperature changes on the planet Mars if it was 72 degrees.
Now, it's 100 below zero, actually, Fahrenheit.
And so, but you're scaling it to give you some idea.
And what we have just discovered is below 6 inches, Now, water, it's a new form of structured water.
Structured water is deuterium for cold fusion processes.
It's a new form of water that hasn't been described yet.
Jerry Pollack was my lead when I worked anesthesiology at the UW and is now professor emeritus.
In the world, on structured waters.
He's the one that does that deep here where the water runs across that long distance.
We understand things like how photosynthesis works.
When a photon of light hits that structured water, what happens is, Richard Feynman said, light's light.
And the positive atoms go up here, and the negative atoms go down here, and you have a battery.
And that's photosynthesis, and that's how it works.
And when you put certain kinds of structure to the water because of deuterium, because of that it's having a different isotope on it, then what happens is the structure of the water.
Now what makes water so important is that it's hydrogen and oxygen, number one and number six in the periodic chart.
Helium has H2 is a stable molecule, but hydrogen and oxygen as water, as the smallest molecule, is a dimensional gate because of its dipole moment.
And so it gives you the options of doing other things.
That's why water is a really important And it is a dimensional gate.
Mathematically, is the way you express that.
How about the water on Mars?
If normal water is a dimensional gate, what do you think the water on Mars is capable of?
There you go.
It would be nice for you to answer that question.
I bet I would.
There you go.
I don't know.
I can speculate.
I'm Project Camelot, and we have witnesses who have worked in Above Top Secret who have said that Mars, I have been told, By someone who is risking his life to tell me this information.
Well, I don't know about that.
I know you don't know about it, but I'm going to tell you what I know.
If you can tell me what you think about what I told you, you can tell you what I know.
He said that the Mars that we see, that the military is dealing with, is actually fourth dimensional Mars.
Isn't that amazing?
Is it?
Yeah.
Okay.
And now you talk a lot about, well, we're getting off the touch.
Not really.
Okay.
I already went there.
I did the math, you know, like that.
Because you talk about the information.
I talked about Matt Pitkin and Alex Cavarainen.
Alex Cavarainen talks on Structured Waters.
He's finished.
Right.
He's dead now.
He was brilliant.
Okay.
Nobody's ever heard of him.
Well, you know, some people have, but, you know, it's for me.
Well, that's the deal, see.
Okay, well, I'm going to describe kind of your trajectory, so I'm going to go back and we're going to do this.
You're going to step in and try to get that same hair in the same place.
No, we're just going to try to get, you know, because I know people listening want to follow.
You know what this is?
It's mudras.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's mudras.
I want to follow you because people want to understand who you are that's talking to them to some degree.
I see.
And it helps if you build a historical...
I'm just a nerd.
I'm a scientist, you know.
But you're a lot more than that because you ended up making this very strange...
Well, strange for certain scientists.
In the time, Russia was doing it.
Russia was doing it.
Yugoslavia, for example, had some genius.
And I know you start your book out with the Soviet...
Dr.
Milan Riesel.
Well, Dr.
Milan Riesel, he was Czech, and he's still alive.
He's now at UC Davis.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
You're welcome.
I'd be happy to give you a horn.
You must be very old, though.
Randy?
Yes.
He's 83.
And a great Randy, I'd like to take him down.
I mean, not take him down, not so much that, no, because he's actually valid.
To show him the world, not him, the world, that the possibilities, the possibilities, once that part is down, so it's not about money, it's not about taking someone down, it's not about that part of it, it's about...
That guy's moving forward.
Get a grip.
400 years of monetary.
It doesn't work.
You know, time to move on.
That's the word.
Okay.
And really, I want people to understand that the reason this man is here, okay, at this time, is because they actually pushed him over the edge to such a degree that he ended up coming out, going from being, what, a farmer?
You called yourself a farmer.
Well, I'm an agricultural consultant.
For the last 40 years, I've been farming.
Okay.
I mean, I... We're not going to go down that road yet.
For 40 years, imagine what I know.
We're still with you in high school.
You've won all these science fairs.
I got to go on the Sea Wolf to Hawaii.
No, I did.
The Sea Wolf was...
Brand new, it was a nuclear powered submarine out of San Diego.
They flew us out of Sandpoint, Washington.
PBY, yeah, it was so cold.
And I got to go, they eat really good.
Navy eats really good.
Say, I mean, you have no idea.
You know, you come to these big fancy hotels and they eat better in the Navy, trust me when I tell you that.
I mean, they really do.
That's the deal.
When you're at war at sea, at least you're going to have some here.
I see.
There you go.
That's interesting.
Okay.
Well, look.
So, at this point, how do you go from high school to college?
University of Washington.
Physics 121, they had 101 and 121.
Physics 121 is for science majors, and the 101 is for non-science.
And the 121 is a hatchet course, and the big tits of about 450 people, but at the University of Washington.
And the second Quarter, it was quarters, there'd be from 480 to 320, and then there would be 140, and there would be, you know, it's just, you know the rules.
And it was like that.
And they had the John Dance lecture series going.
And because of that, both Richard Farnman and the guy that invented Covillant Bonding, Linus Pauling taught 121 and Richard Feynman taught basic chemistry, 121, 101, 121, and then 122, 123, and then he went to second year.
Four years of that intensity all the way up, and then I went to the University of Delaware under R.D. Murray, Nobel Prize winner, and solid state physics.
And he sent me to places like MIT, where I would do Norton's logic using fluidic devices and corning systems, object-oriented software writing.
You know, the ACTOR 4.2 in your database is right now probably under...
Access is using 4.2 with ACT on top of it or something.
Okay, so at this point you're moving through time.
I know.
Isn't it cool?
So at some point, your path, you get into kind of working for the military though.
I've always been working for the military.
In my undergraduate year at Pullman, I did an undergraduate thesis, which means I have a BS in physics, not philosophy of physics, because I did an undergraduate thesis.
What I built was a plasma jet that now G&E uses in the space program to make space files.
And I created a flame 60 times hotter than the surface of the sun.
And they were afraid I was going to blow up the canvas.
It was really cool.
You know, the...
One of those.
So, okay, how did you...
So you worked for the military.
What part of the military?
Were you Navy?
Navy Intelligence.
Were you at Lawrence Livermore at Lab?
Yes.
Did you work for Teller at all?
No, Bill.
Well, I'm not going to say I worked for May.
I worked for Pew Harts, but I was MRU. Okay, what does MRU? Mankind Research Unlimited, I was Northwest Regional Director for Dr.
Carl Schleicher.
You don't know who?
Well, I know the name.
Yeah, I was Northwest Regional Director.
Bill Franklin was Midwest Director.
He was out of Kent State and he did all of the work at the University of Chicago.
If anything weird happened on the West Coast, it was mine to try to figure out what's going on.
Sometimes I was not necessarily lead.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
No.
We would be part of the team, but not the leader.
I understand, but if you had a problem, you actually told me, and people can appreciate this, because the military are aspects of the military.
It's kind of unique in allowing you...
To be sort of this person who kind of went in between the craps.
You didn't follow...
They wanted me...
It was back in the 70s.
Back in the 70s, it was about the sky.
We didn't know where it was going to go.
It was in the 80s that it all changed into application.
A thing called the Emergent Mind Bulletin.
And she talks about remote dealing and the dangers of it over astral projection.
We're scientists.
We deal with certain kinds of things like radiation, like plutonium, reactor, or...
The whole thing's nuts.
And if people don't start to...
There's nobody...
I don't know what to do about the politics.
I don't understand politics.
I don't understand that thing.
But even Ralph Nader isn't talking about Fukushima.
It's already today, just from leaking water in it, the bag is 287 times more radiation.
And right now, China is, and it looks like it's all good to go.
There are two major islands up in the Kumchak Sea that Japan is buying from Russia.
And how do you evacuate 40 million people out of the prefect?
I mean, how do you do that?
Well, I've heard that some of them are going to China and some are going to the U.S. In our lifetime, I think Japan will no longer exist as a continent.
It's a terrible shame.
The history and richness of their culture is...
It's like asset horror.
And it's happening right now with global weather changes.
Survival skills and how to avoid a zombie.
Well, you know.
But speaking of that, we're talking about...
I get you.
I'm back, didn't I? No, it's just one of our cameramen.
Anyway, you're making me laugh here.
But the bottom line here is, when you were...
We're still back in the military.
You're working for the military.
By the way, I just did a little Kevin in here.
The people that are actually going to make the change are six years old or younger.
It will be no one else that actually causes the changes.
It will start at six years and younger.
They're the ones that are going to do it.
We might have a little difference between them.
I'm on record saying it.
It's a fact.
They're the ones that are going to take over the food thing.
They're already doing it.
There's a girl that was 13 and a half, two years ago, that went to the United Nations, addressed the United Nations, and said, when I was your age, when you were my age, you didn't have to worry about the food you ate.
You didn't have to worry about the air you breathe.
What have they done to us?
Well, that's what I'm about.
It's not about me.
It's about...
I know, but we're telling your story right now.
So to get back to the story here...
You can throw that away.
You were working for the military.
From some aspect of the military.
It started innocuously.
It started innocuously.
I was in Anistia.
Started Boeing company, actually.
Okay, so you were at Boeing.
I'm at Boeing.
I come out of graduate school.
I start to work at Boeing.
There are several projects going on.
It was out of MESD is where I was starting.
I'm going to have to remember things.
Bart Pilgrim was doing lunar base Alpha-1.
It's a hydroponic system that later became the Galley Gardens and some other things, but originally they were doing studies of growing pot on the moon.
There's an article about that.
They were doing the original studies of about six different plants in space and to understand how the different white bands, at that time we didn't know about cannabinols, we didn't know about We weren't into the herb chemistry on that level yet.
We were just starting that part of it.
Now we've got...
Pretty tight.
There it is.
But, well, you know, Aaron Stevens is...
Jacobs.
Aaron Jacobs runs the marijuana museum in Amsterdam.
And his wife is the Sensi Seed Bank.
And we talk about Ireland Sea and what's going on now in the world with It doesn't make any sense what they're doing.
Well, I might have a few things.
I'm sure you do!
Okay, but let's go down the trajectories.
At some point you said you were called in to solve problems.
Yeah, if they couldn't figure it out, they would bring in the weird balls.
They would try to make some sense of it.
Mostly we didn't.
Mostly it was like catching flies.
You know, I've seen things that I have no idea what they mean.
Can you give us an example?
Okay.
A Sherpa, white feather shaman, walking up Mount Rainier barefoot.
Jack Schwartz, being able to stick to his arm and not bleed.
No pain.
You know, how does that work?
Well, I figured out some of that.
You know, some of it I figured out, mostly not.
The shaman, it turns out the red feather shaman that walks on coals up in Mount Vernon.
Okay, we found a spot on the back of the back that is radiating heat.
It's a form of electrophoresis.
It's superconductivity through the skin.
It's a headspace, again dealing with an altered state of consciousness and you can do something you can't do here.
That's what it's about.
But how did you make this transition?
Because you were a physicist, a scientist, and you went into the area of consciousness.
At what point in your trajectory did you make that sort of shift?
Do you know?
There are a number of cathartic points, of course.
Okay.
Theosophical society.
How did you do that, though?
I went to the Theosophical Society of Open Form.
And sitting here talking to old ladies, talking about lead veteran, you know, Eastern tradition, and Annie Besant, smoking her cigarettes.
And your mother was a psychic, right?
You also left that out.
Yes, I left a lot of things out.
Yes, my mother and grandmother were...
So well known, working with the Seattle Police Department, they did a TV series called One Step Beyond.
And it was about things that happened to them, but the way the series did it, it was different people and different, you know, they did it that way.
This was at the same time that Twilight Zone was on.
It was called One Step Beyond.
And that's my mother and grandmother.
Alright, so you had a background, sort of.
You grew up with your mother.
She had this ability.
You must have had a similar ability growing up.
No, that's why in 1950, when I was a young kid, they came through with a foundation for the study of man, and they tested my sister and I. And what happened?
They thought I was gay.
I don't have a clue at that point.
I was a young kid.
I played with it a little bit.
You can feel it's like something's watching you and it's aliens.
This is in the 60s, early 60s, late 50s.
Well, come on.
You must have watched Spielberg movies.
Oh, that's much later.
I was out of duty.
Okay, so...
Get back to where you are as far as in that you're working for the Navy, you're making a transition.
It's Navy intelligence.
Navy intelligence.
Navy intelligence is different than Navy in that we're basically Jesuits for the Church of DuPont.
He reported to Rockefeller.
Dupont was mostly interested in technology.
That's what Navy did.
We did it first, and then there would be a trigger-bound army or whatever.
But it was always Navy that had the choice.
And you know that the Stargate, that whole...
I'm talking about the...
This came later.
Yeah, that's in the 80s.
We're doing something much weirder.
Are we in the 60s?
In the late 60s, like 67, 68, that's when Hugo Slotty was...
Okay, Jim Morrison, The Doors, we're talking, have a son.
Did he die?
Thomas Rytle, secret and suppressed, feral pressed, can't get hitter.
You have heard of Peter Labenda?
Yeah, Tom Rytle was my best friend, and psychedelic essays and monographs.
He died in Florida just two years ago, and Neil Goldsmith, you know, You don't know the New York Post's science talks and Omni magazine?
What about Allen Ginsberg?
Yes, Allen Watts.
How about the...
I studied with Allen Watts.
You did?
Yes.
For how long?
I taught with him at Cold Mountain Institute before he died.
I was at Evergreen, and he wanted a second kind of Buddhism, which is minus Chinese.
And actually, I'm not a Buddhist.
I'm not.
I'm a magician.
I'm different, you know.
I get that.
But again, we're still trying to find that area where you kind of moved out of science and got into the mind.
Meta means beyond.
Metaphysics is beyond physics.
World view, you come down into...
Were you disenchanted?
Did you find a limitation in physics?
Well, it's emotions.
It's something more going on here.
Let's figure what that's about.
What about those inner space things?
Take a look around.
Did you meet Leary?
Yeah, I met Timothy Leary.
I know you have, but was he the catalyst?
He's only one.
The first catalyst was the one in fourth grade that kept me after school and made me learn how to read.
I did Freddy the Pig and Mrs.
Pickle Goes to Mars.
That's how I started reading it.
Gotcha.
And from there, really...
Okay.
But come on.
I'm trying to figure out.
You're in your 20s.
Let's say you're in your 20s.
Okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
And you're working for the military, and you're doing these jobs, and you're reaching...
You say you've given a puzzle or whatever, a problem to solve, because they...
Yeah, I went on 20.
But then you graduate, right?
Yeah, I graduated.
I graduated school.
I went to work at Instrument Products Division with DuPont in Newark, Delaware.
But isn't DuPont Paint?
Come on, what are they dealing with?
The Experimental Research Station.
I had the most PhDs in the world in one spot.
What was he trying to do?
Okay, where I came up with the holographic universe, I was walking down the hall, and I looked in, and here's Gabor, whatever way you care to pronounce it in Gabor, and he's creating a three-dimensional television, 1967, three-dimensional colored television.
Where is that?
What happened to that?
I saw it in 1967 in why I wrote the holographic concept of reality.
Because I saw that and then realized what a hologram really is.
At Evergreen, I wrote a movie, well, we were in the basement, the science people.
They had a photography thing, they had one Best Picture of the Year, Khan's called Eat the Sun.
It was about a new religion based on biofeedback.
And I had to write in this thing I'm using.
The idea that you're hallucinating, you're so out of shape.
You know, there's some aliens that think, how could we exist as a life form when the difference between being psychotic and normal is measured in micrograms?
How does that work?
I mean, we're talking about some subtleties here.
No.
Okay.
But at this point, you're working for DuPont.
When do you actually...
When I worked at DuPont, Dave sent me to graduate school.
I finished graduate school and I came to work at Boeing.
When Boeing had 50,000 scientists hit the street all at one time because of the losing of the B1, I used to have a job at Boeing still.
I gave it to my lead.
He was a grade 14, way more years into it.
So he took my job and I started working at the union.
UW. Anesthesiology.
What's the UW? University of Washington, Department of Medicine, School of Anesthesiology.
Fourth floor.
Okay, what were you doing?
Anesthesia.
What was that?
The outer or the inner?
I had an outer show.
I was creating an aortic catheter.
Okay.
You know, the most important measurement in medicine.
Okay.
It goes in through the femoral artery, goes up into the aorta, and measures instantaneous cardiac output.
What was the inner job?
Corolline photography, blah, blah, blah.
So you were photographing for us.
You were doing experiments with that?
Yeah, video feedback.
At the UW, I had a bukla.
You had a what?
A bukla.
Like an emu.
Synthesizer.
I could do all kinds of frequency bands.
I could do any band I wanted.
I was working with...
I think you had laboratories where you had toys.
So you could really cut an inch.
And I had toys.
And I learned audio and video feedback systems at the University of Washington.
They had security clearances in the vaults, in the basements, just like Chicago did.
You know, secret.
You had to go in with a badge.
I thought you got in there.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, all the time.
I had crystals grown there.
You did?
Yeah.
For the...
Did you find what...
What other uses crystals have?
Solid state physics.
Let me tell you.
I was going to write the magical and ritual use of gemstones, and I never did.
You know why?
There would be 14 chapters, each one for a bragus lattice.
Pythagoras Pythagoras says there's 14 ways a matter of full generative they're called broadest letters it's a mathematical thing It has to do with octaves and matter.
I still don't get why you didn't write the book.
Why did you write a book?
You said you were going to write a book.
I've written more books than anybody in the world.
Will you see what I'm going to do this year?
You have no idea.
You don't even know this.
With the modern alchemists, I have Pantheon, Architectural Gods, and Daily Living.
I'll keep you with that.
28 chapters in it.
I have 12 more volumes called The Holistic Kabbalah.
That's online also.
And breaking down...
The Kabbalah isn't complete, though.
What's that?
It's not complete.
Well, are you talking about Dock and the missing Sephiroth in the middle of the abyss?
I've got a chapter on that one too.
And you're talking about the male and female going up.
We go to God, the two paths are the hermit and the lovers.
And what crosses them is humor.
Zep.
Okay.
Look, at a certain point, you ended up meeting...
Timothy Leary.
Yeah.
And working for John C. Lilly.
When were you, because weren't you younger?
Lilly, I was, yeah.
Lilly's lab, that was Carl Sagan.
Carl Sagan wanted to know if the dolphin language, the clicks and whistles, was one, they wanted to know, is that a language?
And I had this thing for languages.
I do, I just do.
You have a natural proclivity for languages, and so it matters.
And when was this?
Wasn't this when you were young?
No, uh, You were in high school?
No, not in high school.
You were 20s?
I'm trying to think it was more like 1968.
It might have been 69.
Were you in your 20s?
Yeah, I was working for Boeing.
I was already out of grad school.
I was in my 430s.
You went down and you were a test subject to do what?
No, they brought me into his labs and for about 10 days I took recordings trying to understand from the frequency bands what these different movements were.
And I discovered that the format of it, you know, and the way they did with it, it's a form of Clifford algebra.
There were like 10 times More aware than Hebrew, in the mother languages, in encoding of information.
They're a more highly evolved mammal than man is.
Did you talk to Stan Tennant about this?
I did mention to Stan, when I met him, I mentioned that.
And how did you react?
They have a dolphin program there on Hawaii.
But the one I did was in Key Largo.
I did Dolphins Plus with Tom Lillard.
And Tom, I was with Cosmo.
I was four hours in the tanks with Dolphin.
And the trainer had the Dolphins coming up to me, and I grabbed on each fin, and they pulled me through the water.
The trainer didn't know this arm wasn't real.
And that dolphin did.
That was Cosmo.
And he pulled me differently than the other one.
So I say, we'll be pulled through the water.
He was lighter on my thing and the joints.
I know, but did you communicate with these dolphins telepathically?
How did you communicate?
I don't know how you do that.
It's in their eye.
Stars shine.
It's like when you do eyeball to eyeball and all of a sudden it happens.
That's the soul part.
The dolphin are there.
I can't explain what happened with my dolphin.
When I met the dolphin, I felt like I was in the presence of a real alien, a real alien, and so much more to give to me.
Some of those mammals are open.
They can leave any time they want.
They can leave at any time they want to leave.
In other words, they're there because they want to be there.
They want to share.
Yeah, right.
They get them easily from a shark or something that hit them.
And they rehab it, and then the dolphin can leave if it wants to.
And a lot of times they don't.
But then neither do kids leave McDonald's, so we've got to be really careful what we're doing here.
I thought I'd play with you on that one.
That's the other part of all of those equations, is that we don't have a clue.
And what we do, a wolf, a timber wolf, is closer to spirit than man is.
What a wolf does is not wrong.
There's nothing it does that's wrong, because it's about instinct.
Okay, that's the lower brain.
The gut is convoluted, and the neurotransmitters, a lot of thinking from there.
There's a metaphor that's going on in the body, just heart centers and other places.
Call it triple warmer.
I haven't figured out what a triple warmer is yet, but...
I did the early acupuncture studies at the University of Washington under John Beninca.
There were a group of scientists that were studying anesthesiology.
They were studying the barefoot doctor's manual.
We brought Dr.
Chu, who was at that time China's leading acupuncturist into the laboratory.
Because I was working upstairs, I got Infectious hepatitis, working with blood.
I had that.
I built a jig.
I was doing sonic studies, you know, through blood attenuation studies.
I see.
What crystal do we use on the catheter?
You knew blood, for example, is at 10 MHz.
That was already done.
But air and cotton walls, you know, we needed a pulse echo thing going on.
And what frequency then?
And I was doing that study.
I see.
And I figured it out.
You know, there it is.
Boom.
I lost my thought.
I know, but you were working on crystals and going into...
Crystals are metaphors just like space-time is.
Okay.
Dirt.
It's about the geometry of it.
Yes.
And when you use that geometry in your mind's eye, that's what I would have been in the ritual use of gemstones.
Natural and retributive stones would be, you know, the broadest letters is Pythagoras.
That's how I would write the book, you know, in terms of what I know about Matthew.
It's about, that all comes, by the way, the concepts of that, Ezekiel's vision, the throne chariot of God.
That's where Stantana and all those people, you know, trying to see the supercoat inside the Kabbalah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Crazy stuff.
Well, you know, the word.
But I still want to get back to when you were working with dolphins.
They used you.
Why did they use you, specifically?
Who?
You.
I never figured that out.
I never figured that out.
You don't know?
No.
Well, I'm a real scientist.
I'm like a real scientist.
So you're a scientist and a psychic.
Is it a four-stage psychic?
No.
I'm not Mulder.
I don't have I Want to Believe.
I don't have Robert Anton Wilson tennis.
I didn't say it.
See how I am?
Yeah.
Okay, but you're still not answering the question.
I want to understand.
I mean, John C. Lilly...
Oh, I was there 10 days, and what I did was I recorded the languages of the dolphin.
Yes.
You recorded it.
Yeah, and then they're talking to each other.
So anybody could record it.
They don't need you to...
Well, but they can't figure out what to call...
Translate.
Yeah, in terms of...
And what I would do is digitize certain things.
This should be working completely.
We had a wang!
You know, before the...
I understand.
Okay, good.
And so, in fact, I didn't even get about computers.
That was one of the areas I missed.
When Robert Stromby, you know, when I went to Nationals, New York.
Yes.
Oh, yeah, I didn't tell you that.
I thought I told you about New York, and I always was number two of them.
I was never the best.
I never, like when I went to New York and they had the National Science Fairs, what happened was, I came to number two.
I didn't come to number one.
They kind of beat me.
They were using relays.
I'd never seen anything like that.
I didn't know about the Difference machine.
I hadn't read Gibson.
I hadn't done any of that.
Did you read Gibson?
Oh, yeah, of course.
Well, you see, Vaughn Bode was a personal friend of mine.
Okay, let's talk about John Bohm.
Is that it?
John Bohm.
His Implicate Order.
The concept of the Implicate Order.
But you were there before him, right?
Right.
We were suggesting biological processes.
We were the first to suggest that the whole thing had to do with biological processes, not universe.
We started looking at the body, what the body really is and what it isn't.
The difference came out of Kirlian photography.
When we realized Kirlian photography wasn't real, what we discovered was bioluminescence and the concepts of what bioluminescence was really about.
That was what I've done my graduate work.
Okay, and so explain bioluminescence to me, in a way.
Well, there are many forms of bioluminescence.
You know, there's the case of luminescence.
Okay, but it contributes.
You can use, you know, stealth technology.
That's now.
Back then, it was the sports car that turned brown and you had to replace it.
Color centers.
You know, like causing plastic to change color, for example, was the technology we were looking at.
And so, I was going to talk about dolphin again.
On the dolphin language, the structures...
What I did is I digitized and started looking for cadence things and mathematical relationships.
And nobody else thought to do that, I guess.
And that's when I discovered that the cadence system that they were using was precisely like, I know Ahn's algebra, I know clever algebra, I know all kinds of dimensional maths, all these different forms.
And what I wanted to do, and that's what I did in there, is the first algebraic expression for consciousness.
I have, actually in this book, I have how it works mathematically.
Once you get it in your mind's eye, my explanation doesn't matter.
It's not about that.
It's about your mind's eye and what your mind's eye can grasp.
And then you start looking for the dimension of it.
That's the part where you win the lottery.
Or take on Greg Randy.
Well, if you could win the lottery, you could take on Greg Randy.
Because you could take my course, win the lottery, that proves that, nice back cover thing, and then take on Greg Randy.
Because that's exactly how it's probably going to work.
Okay.
Truthfully, you'll try it.
You'll play, and you'll see it.
What happened with Lilly at that point?
I mean, did at some point, they brought you, you said you worked 10 days.
Well, that's when they went off a nurse study, so the dolphin, yeah.
But that's all I did with that.
And then you went back to what, Boeing?
Yes.
Actually, anesthesiology.
Boeing.
I was still at Boeing, yeah.
Okay, so where did you go from there?
I went to a lot of places.
At some point, I know.
Yes, I know.
They sent me all over the place, you know.
I saw things.
You were in Antarctica.
I have been to Antarctica, yeah.
Okay, what were you doing then?
Well, you know, that's another one.
I saw...
I don't know what I said.
That was one of the times when I wasn't the lead.
I was just a long-for-the-ride kind of thing as a physicist that they brought in.
And?
Well, you know, we saw artifacts.
Now, when I say artifacts, I don't know that they're alien.
Again, I suspect there's something else going on with civilizations and...
I think that we had reverse technology in the 1860s, 1850s.
We had contact back then, and I think that another culture that does have space travel now exists.
They're us.
Yes.
One that does and one that doesn't.
So you think they started in the 1860s?
1850s?
Uh, 50s.
1850s.
Incredible.
Yeah.
I can show some argument.
Carrington effects and some other things that happened during the night.
Telegraph them down.
How's that work?
Coronal mass ejections from the sun, like we're going to have right now.
Right?
Yeah, right now.
We're experiencing one day.
Less than three weeks ago, There was a formal mass ejection from the sun that if it had been pointed at the earth would fright everything.
Our grid would be down for two, three weeks.
Imagine living 17 floors, is that where you were up here, and having no water or a place to go to the bathroom.
Where would you do that, downstairs?
It gets better and better.
A zombie is East L.A. when they're out of food.
And I don't think there's any infrastructure right now that exists for food less than two and a half days.
I saw Kailua one day after Fukushima.
I can't believe it!
They shove her up!
They're gone!
After Pupashim went through them, they had a little earthquake.
You know, they had a little earthquake that hit Kailua.
Oh, yeah.
About three feet.
I see.
Yeah.
But just the fear of what was going to happen, they went to lower brain, you know.
And the shelf got ripped apart.
The place looked...
I have a video.
It's wonderful.
It'll be in one of my PowerPoints.
It's a picture about food.
What do you need to do about food?
And you've got water.
Okay, well that gets to the reason that we're having this discussion in part.
But what's interesting is that in many ways you've been writing for Nexus for years, right?
Nexus Magazine.
And we have some mutual friends in Australia.
Good friend.
Have you ever been to the...
Shall we mention his name?
No.
The underground base?
No, he hasn't talked...
No, have you ever been there?
You mean to Brim Lake?
No.
No, I haven't.
I've been to Brim Lake.
You have?
Yeah.
I did a stint there.
We'll talk that in another time and I'll save that tip for you.
No, no.
I'm here now.
Crow!
Krill?
Yeah.
You don't know the drones?
I know the name.
Did we elaborate a little more about her?
No, I'm going to leave it at that.
That's where our first reminiscence of synthetic telepathy arrived in Alan Frey's work and figuring out how do they communicate like this?
How does that work?
So they brought you in to communicate?
I'm sorry?
Weren't you brought in to communicate?
No, I was repressed for some other reason.
There's a missing time.
Truly, in the debriefing, yeah.
It actually happened.
And I'll talk about that later.
Okay.
How much later?
When we're off camera, but I'll tell you what happened.
I don't know what happened.
You know what it is?
That's how it works.
Let me tell you a story about Area 51.
I know some military guys who were special forces, and just for fun...
This is later, though.
This is later.
They broke into Area 51.
They went in through one of the air shafts.
There's stuff in Area 51, that is.
I saw...
I saw...
Now, technology...
I mean, where does that come?
That's creepy stuff.
That's creepy stuff.
Yes, absolutely.
Well, what they saw was...
Smart blood.
I saw a smart blood.
Smart blood?
Really?
Well, do you know about the Falklands War and the black oil?
No, but I've heard about it.
I don't know that.
I saw a smart blood.
And because I saw a smart blood...
That's Greg Baer.
Blood music.
The sci-fi book.
Blood music.
No, I don't know that.
Absolutely.
Greg Baer.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, wrote blood music.
The blood gets intelligent and decides it wants to talk to God.
How does that work?
It gets weird from there, man.
It goes right over the edge.
Okay.
Anyway, these guys discovered there was a floating, a ball floating.
I was watching them.
Have you heard about those balls?
Floaties.
There's a lot of things that are real.
Wendigo, Bigfoot, you know, all of that kind of stuff that Joe Papp wrote.
All the different forms that, skinwalker wrench.
I would love to do skinwalker wrench.
I would love to have some toys.
That's what I did.
Okay, but that's paranormal.
Yeah, but that's what I did.
It was paranormal.
When they would have something they didn't understand.
Back then, they knew about the aliens, but they were more worried about what the Russians were going to do.
That's the way I remember it, honestly.
I mean, honestly, Yugoslavia had made strides in their researches that, even today, I'm impressed with cosmopolitanism.
The concepts of cosmobiology are an interest in science.
What is cosmobiology?
Metaphors of intellectual Right now, the Earth is going through dragon tails.
The dragon tails in deep space have actually pushed the reverse pole for almost six hours.
It's on my website.
It was a pole ship for about six hours.
NASA recorded it.
Oh yeah?
Yeah.
March 9th.
9-11.
March 11th.
March 11th.
Yeah.
There's a push on the backside of the Earth.
That was about the earth dragging through cosmic streams of radiation.
Well, do you know who Paula Violet is?
No.
You don't?
No.
Okay, do you know about something called the super wave?
No, but I can imagine, you know...
Okay, well, it's energy coming at the Earth.
Possibly, sort of like, if you could imagine a sort of earthquake in the galactic center, possibly, that sends out waves of energy that we are now encountering.
Well...
You wouldn't deny that we're...
Everything's in resonance.
Okay, that's what I am as a resonance physicist.
I'm not the quickening, all of that.
The Earth is out in the rim, you know, where the center is a giant black hole.
What do you think that might indicate?
Well, you tell me, and you're the physicist.
Into the outer.
Okay, I have to see it.
You wrote that book, it's after the mail.
Well, if you're looking at it like that, then I would see it as a portal into another dimension.
Not another dimension.
That's the way Rod Steiger into another dimension.
But it's not dimensionless.
Other universes?
Multiverses?
Well, possibilities is the word I would use.
The possibilities.
Because when you name it, you containerize it.
And you have to realize that's really important.
Yes.
You know, because when you containerize it, you've already contaminated it.
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, you know, you heard about the two physicists who won the Nobel Prize for supposedly being able to isolate supposedly a particle quantum physics-wise And then we're able to measure it without affecting it.
I'm not sure if they really were successful at that.
You're talking about the difference in Heisenberg and his uncertainty principle.
I saw that article.
I posted that article on my blog.
And what do you think about it?
No.
I could offer.
I didn't.
You know, I posted it as a gee whiz, like I do.
But I think you'll find that a holographic system will account for the data that they're discovering on this concept of the way you enthralled information So it folds out on itself.
And space-time are really illusions.
Lawrence LaShawn, the medium, the mystic, and the physicist, it comes back to that.
You wanted a key point?
All right.
Yeah, there it is.
That's Katarzy's point.
That right there.
Okay, but tell me something.
I mean, just tell me in terms of, do you think the physicist that won this Nobel Prize can isolate a particle in such a way and measure it And then supposedly predicted, I think, was the next step.
And then they were saying they could make supercomputers out of it, and so on and so on.
Yeah, it's about the way you array the information on itself.
That's what they're talking about.
You're the investigator into consciousness.
Wouldn't you say, how can you really eliminate our consciousness, in other words, our attention on something, Do you know what I'm saying?
Without affecting it.
We're going to affect it.
You can affect everything with the mind.
Exactly.
So there is no barrier there.
No, there isn't.
Even Ingo Swann was able to do this experiment at SRI where they had these layers of steel and they had this thing under, I don't forget what it's called, under the ground.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yes.
And he was able to...
To change it, they wanted to know if he could affect it, and he did.
Dr.
Hiroshi Motohama did it in Japan, where he put someone in a Faraday cage.
Okay.
And they had a one-on-one, that's one of the studies I did, with someone outside the Faraday cage to affect his consciousness.
How could you do that?
Except, possibly, in a quantum mechanical universe, unless you're using microwave.
And so, the body is radiating energies in numerous points.
Those are called nadi points.
Okay?
If you have your chakra points, you have the places where you treat oils, you know, on your body.
These are places that are radiating and part of the non-local mind, where your body is up here, just like your brain is up here, except for the hierarchy of brains.
Well, what about out-of-body?
We're not even going there.
We can.
We can.
Because that's Monroe.
Did you go to the Monroe Institute?
No.
I worked with Robert Monroe when he was in California.
You two must have been.
I would like to reapply on the wall.
It was a wonderful thing back then.
To meet these people, and actually, as a scientist, a real scientist, measuring That work.
And what we're only doing is just now having models that will account for the data.
And the fact is, there's sixth space, seventh space, and eighth space.
And imagine, you know, we're in fourth grade.
While one of us might run faster on the playground, we're all in fourth grade.
Don't have a clue what's going on.
I'm just aware that it isn't what I'm sensing.
As a scientist, I can prove it.
Now, if that's true, then what are the possibilities?
That's what your wormhole is, the possibilities.
Okay, let's talk about what I call the secret space program.
The secret space program.
That's pretty cool.
I always wanted to, my bucket list did include Mars.
It did?
You did.
But you never got there.
I'm going to be the Mr.
Wizard that smokes the pipe.
Okay, what does that mean?
It means that I'd like to be Mr.
Wizard and talk to the children about Mars.
That's what it means.
You know, because it's going to be the children.
It's going to be the only ones that have not been contaminated yet.
Educational systems are in chapels.
It's an embarrassment.
But did it ever occur to you that maybe they're beyond educational systems?
You know, it used to be they'd say that it'd take 10% to change the world.
Now they're saying it's 5%.
Really?
Yeah.
Really?
Just start it up.
That's my great-grandfather when he said to Rudolf Sider, we are no longer at war in the physical world.
If you want to change the world, you change yourself and the world changes with you.
And that's, you know, path-working.
Your first steps.
Keep a diary.
Keep it Irish.
That's beautiful.
But the thing is that your father taught Rudolf Steiner.
Isn't this great?
My great-grandfather was Rudolf Steiner's teacher.
He's the one who decided that the life was no longer war in the physical world.
Was no longer what?
At war.
With the world on a physical level.
But if you wanted to change things, you're not going to do it on a physical level.
Okay, but come on.
Let's look at mind control.
Let's look at population elimination.
If anything, they're at war against us.
Well, who's them and us?
Well, who is?
You tell me.
I don't know!
I'm one of the nerds in one of those lavatories up there with his mouth open catching flies.
I don't have a clue.
No, you know, I have ideas, but I'm a scientist.
And I will always, to you, I promise you, my word, magician's word, That I'll always try to wear the science hat.
From the science point of view, I'll tell you what I know.
In that part, there is something else going on.
It's not what any of us have probably discussed.
You told me, where was it that you said you would go?
You would walk into, I don't know, OTO where?
Oh...
When I walked into Amsterdam, for example, I have a seat on my seat, and I have a couple of buttons on my thing, right?
And buses started, and I think there were 300 people who had buses.
It's because I had an OTO badge.
Yes.
And the other one was certified hypnotherapist.
You know, trying to keep it from looking all black.
You know, a little color here, a little jewelry there.
But...
It's about the Green Reich.
Magic is a higher form of physics.
It has been reserved for the ultra-elite of Europe for centuries.
It's through history.
And you recognize each other.
And that's that.
And everybody should be doing it now.
But they have to understand there's a stigma attached to it.
You understand?
That's the risk.
When you do shortcuts, you know, trying to take a shortcut through the woods, you have the risk of the shortcuts, you know, like addiction and, you know, spousal abuse or gambling or whatever.
Right, or sacrifice.
Sacrifice.
You know, blood sacrifice, blood addiction, all of that.
I don't know anything about blood sacrifice.
It's about voodoo.
When Buddha, if you want to talk about magic, Buddha just can get this emotional thing done.
What's burning all over it?
Can't trick yoga.
Sex language.
These O.T.O.s originally, they troll a mass of the Holy Ghost.
Consume the Eucharist.
That's the whole part of it.
I know the rituals down to the point of precision on it.
It's all about thought forms.
When you use the larger brain, what happens is it's full of logic, so it's going to play a chess game.
But it's all metaphor.
Well, isn't that interesting?
I wonder where that could go.
Absolutely.
And you understand that.
But it is interesting because people will wonder.
They're going to say, but look at how you are.
Look at who you are.
You're really kind of clued in on certain levels.
And people like you, wait, wait, wait, get targeted.
Now, right before you got here, I was told you had three businesses that they attacked.
Oh, yeah.
Well, synchronicity and serendipity.
Is there such a thing?
In other words, it's not an accident.
There are no accidents.
How about that?
Okay, how about this one?
St.
Menta, third verse.
Everything happens for a reason.
Everything happens leads to something better.
All right, so here you are.
Even though this happened to me, what it's doing is allowing me to finish more than 360 books in agriculture.
This week along, Lenny has edited a five-book series called The Encyclopedia of Alternative Agriculture.
For urban and semi-rural communities.
Imagine that one.
It's five books.
Okay.
Dig in.
Set up little kibbutzim all over the place.
Can you imagine?
And you barter.
Because if you barter, you take food out of the monetary system.
They can't regulate it or call it a terrorism thing.
And you barter for it.
And everybody can eat their environment.
It makes sense that this universe can see gardening as a God-given right and it's a recreational sport like soccer.
You know, it's a lot of work.
And there's ego involved with marijuana.
You know, my plant and my bud.
You know, big buds.
My plants right now are over 12 feet tall.
I see.
But we talked about this.
We talked about how marijuana attacks the will.
It does.
What do you mean by attack?
You mean it does it on its own?
I don't know.
You tell me.
How does it work?
What does on its own mean?
You mean it's a bad robber?
Or you're the bad robber and it's not about the drug.
It's about what you did to yourself.
But we're talking about uneducated users.
Well, in ritual, when you put it in a ritual, now it's a celebration of myth.
And you can choose the mythology, path-worthy, tarot, you choose the particular path and you celebrate the myth by doing the ritual.
Right.
Okay.
Like absinths.
Would you like to try?
I did that!
Three hour absinths and get into your cups!
We're the same thing.
Alcohol.
We were talking about caffeine.
You know, all these things that you use.
And I just want to reiterate.
I'd love to do an absinth ritual and have you take that one.
I want to reiterate this information, though.
For people.
Because, you know, off camera, we talked about this, and I just want you to reiterate what you said, which is the notion that these things can be used for good or for ill.
It's not about Christianity.
It's a living color.
It's not about preferences over absolutes.
It's not about binary over triary.
You know that tri-system, base 3, doesn't have any primes.
The only reason you've got base 10 is for the exponential.
Okay.
1 over r squared.
I'm not sure everyone...
Okay, you might be speaking in another language for some reason.
No, it's not.
You all get it.
Okay.
Once you've got it, it's the depth of it, just like hypnosis, that becomes significant.
Sleep now.
Okay, let's talk about that experiment.
I'm having too much fun.
I'm sorry.
That's okay.
No, I don't want to...
I'm like a little kid, so you can make me do naughty things.
I'm like a little kid.
I'm really like a little kid.
I get it.
I get it.
You're very open.
You're very accessible.
It's all good.
It's a beautiful thing.
Now, what I want to talk about, right before, during lunch, at the end of lunch, you told me this thing about the cone and the line, the guy that...
Okay, for the last, since the 70s, I harvest pine cones.
Yes.
The tree drops the pine cones.
They're a fire hazard.
The pine cones are used in writhing.
They're used as fire starters.
They'll soak them in oil, you know, blah, blah, blah.
In previous years, I would sell between 100 and 150 truckloads.
Just a ponderosa.
It was a 53 hybrids, you know, a lot of cones.
And the Forest Service gets a pound of flesh for the brush permit.
Labor gets paid.
They make about $150 a day in back-breaking labor.
It's a seasonal thing.
You know, it's before and after the earnings.
Okay, but that's not what I was talking about.
Yeah, they...
That's how you made your money.
That's correct.
And for the last two years, there have been an act of God in agriculture.
Now, normally a tree will put out cones every year.
Except one in seven, they don't put out a code.
That was last year.
And because of the drought last year, this year is the first year in history that there weren't any combs either.
That's two years in a row with no incomes.
Well, that happened at this very moment that I was required to close down business that I'd been doing for six and a half years.
And in negotiations for a What they call a no prejudice statement, so I will be very clear in saying that I have come to live to see the day when alternative health has gone the way of Big Pharma.
It's an embarrassment, but the two happened at the same time.
It just caused me to have to hustle and do a workshop.
You know, that kind of thing.
Besides that, besides that...
That's a good thing.
In a certain sense, the Navy wants you and Matt, Matt's sign, we actually start talking about...
I don't know that it's Navy.
You don't know it's Navy?
No.
And it may not be anything.
It may be...
I am.
Well, it could be a lot of things.
Yeah, it could be a lot of things.
Yeah, for the earth.
Yeah.
That's right.
But it's at a certain juncture that you're coming forward again, right?
In a much more public way.
Well, this is 68.
I mean, you know, how many more miles do I have?
So, there it is.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Norm Shirley is 80.
And he would be like, I would like to be him when I'm 80.
Okay, but you told me four years ago they started to monitor you.
I had someone at one time, four years ago, come into my house, unhook my Linux router, go straight into my computer, and I didn't notice that it was unhooked for almost two months.
After that, cameras went in because they wanted to know who it was.
My guess is probably just someone running my cone business, which is very lucrative until a few years ago.
Okay, but this is very superficial.
I see a lot different.
I know you do, and it's a conspiracy thing or not, and you may never know.
Oh, well.
You may never know.
There are many things I don't know yet.
Do you understand?
I mean, you may never know.
You want to stay open.
Well, you have to.
You can't make assumptions.
Because if you do, then you're no longer a physicist.
I understand.
That's correct.
And so you may never know.
All right.
And so that's why...
Talk about Timothy Leary.
How did you read this?
Yes.
Well, but I'd like to finish this.
All right.
I think they need to put a mystery school in physics.
Let me go further on that.
How about cybernetic anthropology with Laughlin, D'Aquile, and McManus?
And how about the idea of a thumb with fire?
As a form of technology, if possible, over a dolphin that uses sonar for cold fusion processes.
Why are you saying this over that?
Because it limits what you can do in the physical world.
Belief systems and values would enrich you, Christianity, whatever, And limit you.
If you were a Christian and two aliens walked in the door, well, you know what the bleep would suggest that you wouldn't see them.
That the ships on the horizon and the Indians had no conception of being able to see a ship as a concept, so they didn't see it.
Sub-worlds with cubit information as all part of the stew.
And you have to be open to the possibilities, the possibilities, and no limitations of it.
Universes are always invented.
In graduate school, undergraduate school, they had a thing called modern physics, usually in your junior year.
And then you do mathematical physics in your senior year.
And in junior year, modern physics is dealing with nuclear energy and those kinds of things, nuclear reactions, co-actions, things of that nature.
Okay, but what about, okay, for example, what about the notions that dolphins use sonar through water, right?
That's the medium.
Yes, because the medium that they're in, sound is more effective because what's so special about water?
It doesn't compress.
It is the only thing That as it gets colder does not compress, it expands.
Water only.
Dimensional gate.
H2O. Carrie Reams.
H709 with a free radical ion.
All the different forms of Willard water.
You know, you're all structured water.
Well, what I want to ask you is that this out here, this space This stuff that we called, it was called ether in the 1900s.
I'm well aware of it.
You're tired, and I'm sorry.
No, but you hear what I'm saying?
Okay, go ahead and do it again.
Okay, I just want to know, because you talk about the information field, and I'm thinking...
What moves through this space?
Memes!
It's called memes.
Physical, emotional, intellectual.
There are eight of them.
There are octaves of seven and an octave.
There's eight memes.
They're geometric, specific to specific neurotransmitters.
And they're at different levels.
This one turns this gate on.
This one turns that gate on.
You learn how to use that biochemistry.
And you become a superman.
Okay.
With training.
I'm just throwing this out to you.
With training.
I'm throwing this out to you.
That was the word off.
What dolphins do with sonar can be done through this air?
Because sound, when it's going through water, the water doesn't compress.
It won't distort the sonar.
Okay, but what does it do when it goes through air?
Well, they're compressors, and so you have, you know, Doppler effect for meow.
You know, you have the variation of the sound by meow.
You know, that has a certain thing that gates certain neurotransmitters in your brain.
Okay, well talk about the signal non-locality.
You call it, you don't agree, you don't kind of agree with that idea of signal non-locality.
I call it the non-local mind.
There's something more here that is part of the physical plane, emotional, intellectual, archetypal.
There is a body, etheric, if you will.
Right.
But still, if you have somebody, let's say a person in Japan and a person here, and they communicate, right?
Okay.
So how's that taking place in the world of physical?
Intentionality.
It's purpose.
The purpose of it.
It's all about intentionality.
When you talk to someone from Japan and there is a breakdown in the communication thing, you go to Avram Moles.
He's a French mathematician.
It's called aesthetic perception and information theory.
And they talk about redundancy coefficient in terms of trying to catch my drift.
You know, we're using idiomatic expressions No, I'm talking telepathy.
What exactly do you think telepathy is?
Mind-to-mind connection.
How about...
I would suggest something, a possibility of something a little different.
Sure.
Thank you.
How about...
Let me think about this for one second.
Mind.
How about...
The information is already in your body because it's not about space-time.
It's about the way you are storing memory.
Memory, the way Robert Ornstein would call it, is a duration of consciousness.
It's the way you have two brains and a new adult.
So the way the memory gets stored gives you a sense of time.
It's an illusion.
In terms of the information itself.
So in other words, you're communicating with somebody in Japan right now by virtue of the idea that time doesn't exist and you're all in the same place at the same time?
There is a numinous element.
There is the part above yourself.
There's the self and then there's God.
And self-realization.
Well, that's correct.
But there's a hierarchy.
There's an ontology of those mistaken states.
That's John Curtis Gowan.
And that's in my second book, by the way.
The first book, what I do, this is important.
What I'm trying to do is understand each one of these altered states.
Like, here's where you can do ESP. Once that gets catalogued, now you have some power tools.
Go to the second level, which is the power tools book, in using the information that you've learned on how to use these altered states.
You can change your sex with neurotransmitters.
Just, you know, your preference.
You can do that with neurotransmitters.
And you can do that by imaging in your mind's eye.
Sure.
But this is also where mind control is true.
Well, I start off my first paper on what the new directions of mind control are, and I ask the question of what the mind is first.
Before you can control it, you better have a definition of what you're dealing with, right?
So, okay, what is it?
Okay, there's the part that's knowable, there's dreams, there's blood, you know, you start listing a series of categories.
Well, some people say that the mind is a computer.
That's very limited.
That's all you do.
It's like, that's just the interface.
Well, that might be the physical plane, then there's emotional.
You want to start with the computer.
well call it spirit call it soul whatever soul and spirit and matter yeah use of the matter the stag the mind it is all about the mind The mind and body are part of something more.
But that's the interface.
See, I would look at it to some degree, if you want to say, the holographic universe, or even a virtual reality, let's say, because we think of it in these days, is you would go in and you would be an avatar in a computer game.
In a sense, this is the avatar in this computer game.
It's the level of information.
It's called the resolution of the information in a holographic system.
And so at one level, it's a game theory.
It works like game theory.
But there are other levels of the math.
And with those are the possibilities.
And that's the part that's exciting for me.
The possibilities are what the mind's capable of.
Sure.
Okay.
I need a break too.
We're going to have to take a break.
We'll see where we're at.
I'm sorry I'm stale right now.
No, you're doing a great job.
Yeah, but I'm not...
We'll come back.
They're snippets.
We'll come back to you.
I know when I'm on.
So tomorrow we'll come back to this.
Alan Watts was one of my teachers also.
And I'm going to try to bring some of his extremely important concepts in.
You know, he said, for example, and this is a thing for you to contemplate, that, you know, the little pollen that we were looking at, we were going to make a spring out of it?
Yes.
he says if you touch it twice in the same day that a moment of infinite bliss occurs it only lasts for a moment and you forget it sleep now alright we're going to try to pick this up at another point
I want to thank you for spending some time with me and it's been a joy.
I'm here with Richard Allen Miller, also known as Rick Miller, and he's going to take us on a tour of this urban garden and we've got some very interesting atmospheric effects I don't know, is that a train?
Who knows?
I heard the train earlier.
Oh, all right.
Okay, so you tell us what we're going to do.
Yeah, what we'll do is just walk through these gardens here and maybe see some of the plants.
Here's one right here, this one.
It's like a little weed, but really what it is, it's feverfew.
You can tell by the kinds of leaf and the flower head on it.
It's this part and the top leaf and so on would be used for migraines.
What it does is it actually, it's like a smooth muscle like valerian and it will allow more blood into the brain.
Okay, not just migraines, but just having more blood in your brain.
Isn't that a good thing?
Of course, it's always a little more blood in your brain until you pop a blood vessel in.
I see.
I have a little stroke.
Okay, but as a physicist, you became a sort of an herbologist.
Okay, yeah.
I grew up in the woods.
My dad wanted me to be a survivalist.
But I'm a scientist, and so I'm a nerd, so I started looking at the universe from a habitat point of view, and where you can actually graze and live off the land.
I had this dream once of Burjeev.
He said, eat your environment.
And actually, when we walked through here, there's enough here with proteins and everything else.
You could survive just off the food that's growing locally.
I love that.
That's beautiful.
And then if you wanted Dorita corn chips, then you could barter with someone.
Okay.
Or maybe you could use this for a barter for someone who didn't appreciate what you cared for.
Yeah, well, we can just walk through here some of the different plants.
Go ahead.
Okay, so the first way you go into a plant is you start to look at the leaf and This isn't anything that I thought it was.
This is kind of like a mutated, and there's a lot of them.
There's differences between oregano and marjoram, and they talk back and forth until you have a lot of spaghetti and changes and mutations.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Yeah, and so there are different kinds of oregano.
This one isn't a very good one in oil, but you can actually, in fact, If you look, you'll see the stem is square.
I'd like you to notice that.
Go ahead and take a look closer at the stem, and you'll notice that it's a square stem.
And what that means is it's a labiata.
That means it's in the mint family.
Like basils and oreganos and marjorams, they're all square stems.
And so there's your drink.
There's your train.
And so it's the leaf.
This one isn't a very good one.
It's mutated out.
Really, you see how it's all got leggy?
That's what we call leggy.
The best thing to happen on reaganos, cut them right back, right down to the ground, and then they're not as herbaceous.
You know, they're more, I mean, they're more herbaceous rather than dried, dyed, you know, nothing there.
We'll look at catnips and things like that.
Okay.
Lots of different interesting plants.
All of this stuff is just interesting.
Look at how this is winding in and taking over.
This right here, what do you think that is?
Um, sage?
Yeah.
Oh, that's rosemary.
Oh, rosemary.
Oh, yeah.
I love rosemary.
So, you'd love it in your hair.
You have beautiful hair, and if you were to put rosemary oil in your hair, it would soften it like a conditioner.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
Rosemary's.
And of course, here we have more of the oreganos, and this is actually more of a marjoram than an oregano.
You can tell by the colors of the flowers.
Your marjorams will lag where your oreganos are more closer to the ground.
Of course, you've got yarrow.
That is yarrow.
I don't know what that is.
Yes, it is.
It's yarrow.
That's yarrow.
Okay.
What is yarrow?
Yarrow is noxious weed.
Noxious weed means cow won't eat it.
That's where noxious comes from.
So it doesn't mean it's a bad thing.
No.
Noxious is not a bad thing.
Baby's breath grows all in the Okanagans.
And when you talk about Okanagans, I mean, you can't even have cattle praise up there.
I mean, there's nothing up there like Montana.
And yet, the cattlemen have lobbied, so you can't control it.
Baby's breath because they're afraid it'll spread.
It's worth about 20 grand an acre.
You know, imagine doing that as a cash crop.
You can make a living on that doing flowers.
Yeah.
Yeah, and especially if you chose to grow this baby's breath over that one.
You know, the Bristol fairies are the primary ones.
You've got those little tiny, tiny leaf ones.
You know, the paniculata, that's the one you really like because everybody gets married with that one.
It's a biennial.
That means the first year has a very small leaf and then the second year it'll grow to six or seven feet tall and it's used as an expectorant for ear drops taking water out of the ear.
It's an expectorant.
It pulls water out of things.
We'll just walk around.
They've got plants growing here that have food on them.
Look at here.
Here's a real great plant.
Roma tomato.
And it looks like we're going to have some more.
And I like the Romas because, of course, they have a lot more meat to them rather than juice.
And they're sweet.
That's your bricks of sugar.
So that's an edible.
What do you think this is?
It looks like a holly leaf.
Yeah, it does.
Okay, so this is a barbarous aquifolium.
Blueberries, these blues are used to make pectin or jam.
It's almost pure pectin.
The root is a golden seal analog.
It has hydrastine and berberine.
It means if you wanted to do a pee test and you had to urine, you know, someone wanted you to urinate, this is what you would, Golden Seal is what's used to have people pass urine tests and things like that.
Did you know that?
No.
That's what it's all about.
I think some people might find that valuable.
Useful information.
Just kidding.
Okay.
Okay, here's one right here.
Now, this looks a little different than the rosemary, doesn't it?
What do you think it is?
Heather?
I don't know.
Lavender.
Similar, similar kind.
Yeah, it is, isn't it?
And lavenders, when we grew them down on the Klamath, I did about 40 acres.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, farming.
Remember, I'm not a gardener.
But what are you using it for?
Lavender oils, lavendines are food processing.
A lot of foods use lavender oils and lavendines.
That's a certain kind of an oil that will be used in cooking.
But they're also good for other things, you know?
What?
For a cult.
Okay, let's go there.
That's what you wanted to do?
No, I'm just saying.
We'll get Stevie Nixon and we'll have a little witch party.
It is lavender, right?
Lavender wands, what they used to do is they'd braid them in with, you know, remember how they make lavender wands?
What you're trying to do...
What you're smelling is an odiferous molecule.
That means it goes into the air and you can smell it from a distance.
If it's going in the air, that means it's losing it.
It's gone to the Lord.
So what you're trying to do is you often would fix things.
Now, how would you fix an oil so it didn't disappear?
Blue.
And you use, yeah, like cottonwood has, the cottonwood has, you know those little things, cottonwood, but they also have balm of coletabud.
That bud to pop up is real sticky.
We mix the sticky in with the plant and it holds the molecule and so when you touch it you can smell it, but it isn't gone.
And then also put it into the oil, right?
That's correct.
That's how you fix the oil.
Okay.
Well, I'm just, you know, basics.
It's real simple when you start to get...
And so what I'm going to try to do is give you a sense of it so that even when you don't know what it is, you have ways to find out what kind of a mushroom it is.
Now, supposing you wanted to eat something like this and you weren't sure if it was safe.
The Navy Sea will touch me.
The way I would do it is I'd take this like this, and I'd cut a little scrape like that on my arm, and I'd put that on there like so, just like that.
And wait to see if it festered.
Oh.
If you have an immediate allergic reaction, you know it's going to be toxic to you.
If it doesn't, you're fine.
Really?
Yeah, it's a simple way to do it.
And actually, this part of the arm is even better than down here.
But when they do allergy tests on you, they just go up and down your arm with all kinds of things.
That's how they do it.
Yeah.
Okay, very good.
Yeah.
Okay, where else are you going to take us?
All the way around, if you'd like.
All right, keep going.
Keep going.
Okay, sure.
Grape.
They're everywhere.
Amaranth.
This is edible.
These seeds.
This is grains.
like you can actually make a, they won't be as good as that body you just eat on.
And, have things like asparagus and the rotten apple.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
That's because apple trees everywhere.
And this, you twist it.
If you leave, if the stem is still in there, then it's still good.
And what you'll normally do is cut it in half to look at the water core inside to see if it's got lots of sugar or not.
And I don't have a knife on me.
I used to, where I go click, click, click, click on Mando's knife, and then I'd slice it through.
Yeah, that could be a good apple.
I'm not even sure what kind of an apple it is.
And we know it's pretty good because there's other things eating it.
That's how I check it out.
Oh yeah?
Yeah.
See what else you think.
You know the butterflies?
Yeah.
Which so beautiful is right now they're mating.
And watch when they pair together like that.
And they'll go up into a tent of stands.
And that's what you're seeing right then, right there.
This place.
And you can get down right into the plants.
And you start to see strawberries!
But you don't notice, people don't even notice them.
But here they are.
And you got your California poppy.
Yeah.
All the different things like that.
And alliums.
This is an onion of some kind.
See, and all the seed on that, you want to collect that.
You can collect that seed.
And you can see the seed in there, and that would all turn into more onion plants.
And off it goes.
Beautiful flowers.
Imagine what that looked like about a month ago before it got really hot and dry here.
Breathtaking.
And you've got, what are those called?
That's a purple coneflower.
It's a root vecchia, different from echinacea.
But it's Is that an echinacea or an echinacea?
That's a good question.
No, not really.
And I'm going to tell you what I believe and what I know about Echinacea.
There's a lot of misnomers.
Echinacea is one of the few botanicals that belong to the American Indian.
It isn't about Germany.
It isn't about Russia.
It's American Indian.
And your best Echinaceas came out of the Northern Cheyenne regions, up in Montana, North Dakota, Alberta, and Saskatchewan, because up there, all the water comes from snowpack.
And as a result of that, it creates a root part that, on the roof, holds that moisture in miserly.
And that's where you find your sulfuric acid.
And how echinacea works as an immune enhancer is that the It's not about the euthanasia side.
Chorac acids cause synovial fluid in your synovial glands and all of that.
They're fine in your throat.
It causes them to bead.
That means the water, instead of laying flat, causes the synovial fluid to bead.
Now, why it's beading is in lipostatic fields, and what it does is it causes radiation out and limits habitat where your virus can spread.
And that's why it's an immune enhancer.
Because what it does is it isolates the viruses in your body so your body can go in and take care of it.
What most viruses do is when it's being attacked it moves to a different point.
And what you want to do is localize it and then let your body Take care of it.
So are you saying that this plant is not that?
Okay.
There is Echinacea and Gustifolia.
And what happened is that the Germans, when they came over here in the 30s, got the wrong plant.
And they got Purporea, which is a great thing.
Rudbeckia type of thing.
Now this is a Rudbeckia.
This isn't an Echinacea.
Echinacea, Purporea, In the new taxonomies out of Saskatoon, we call it a Rebecca, whereas in the old taxonomies, you know, Lank and some of the other people have the Nomenclates, the Genus, the Beaches, and the Nomenclates, that's what you have when you do your Latin.
The species part will determine, you know, what kinds of oils are in it, what kinds of...
Okay, but are you, in essence, are you saying it doesn't act, doesn't it?
It doesn't do anything, really, other than the Germans will insist that it does, because they've got the wrong plant in it.
Do their whole marketing around it.
Well, it's just typical.
That's why they went into standardized extracts as opposed to a new system for spectrum.
When you do something like aspen leaf and aspen bark, that's a cetylsalicylic acid.
It turns out, in natural plants, there's usual natural buffers You don't need that.
And we don't understand this yet, but the plants sometimes, even though they're unrelated chemistries, there's a synergy or what we call a kind of catalytic system that causes things to work better because of a buck or a duck.
I'll be your Yule Gibbons.
Yeah, really.
Except I'm a little mad scientist.
Well, maybe.
We're still out on that.
Now, here's Oregon grape.
Now, that root, if you were going to go to the store, you know what that plant's probably worth?
Nah.
The root.
Anything that's got yellow in it.
That means you start the root, you pull it out, you're going to come around.
You know, a chain around it, and you just pull the thing out of the ground.
And it's the root you want, like golden steel.
Golden steel root.
Yeah.
And golden steel is hydrathene and barbearing chemistry.
This also has hydrastine and berberine.
This is an example of the West Coast having a chemical analogue to something that grows in the East Coast.
It's got the same chemistry, but it's a little different plant, and the ratios are different.
Mostly the bone seal, hydrastine, and berberine.
Oregon Greek has berberine and hydrastine.
So it's not nearly as good, you know, for total chemistry.
But, they'll use this as a thin agent, because goldenseal costs $30 a pound, and this is only $3.
And it's similar chemistry.
And so a long beach, that would be the Pennsylvania National or something like that, would probably use it.
Now, the way we in the laboratory find out if there's been 90, and mixing the earth, is that what we'll do is look for markers on what the ratios are between Tedroski and Barbarian.
And if they're like this, I know that it's been cut with something a little bit like that.
And if it looks like this, then it isn't at all, it's just great.
Okay, but are you saying that it's less potent, less effective?
Yeah, yeah.
Barbarine is a precursor to hydroxychloroquine if they tumble off.
Okay, but golden seal is good for what?
Urine tests, Anne.
That's what we're talking about.
What are those other things?
They use a fruit seal.
There's old remedies out of culture and places like that.
Why do they use a golden seal?
Golden seal was going to knock out a lot of other things.
Oh yeah?
Originally, until you mix golden seal and garlands.
Not very popular, but it works.
Alright, do you want to go somewhere else?
Well, we just walk down.
You've got all kinds of different trees with fruits and berries on it.
I'm going to show you some down this way, just again.
This is what we call purple coneflower, and this one is an echinacea.
You can tell by the way the bud is right here.
And that's how you tell it.
This plant will normally grow, if you're farming it, about this tall.
And then the root will be...
Somewhere about that peg in the roof, whereas Echinacea and Vespa Foil, which is one they used to do, which might only have a roof, it wouldn't get much farther.
What they'll do is come in with a, oh, usually we use a rotary mower vacuum, trash it out after it, and then we'll plow the roof out.
Aren't you saying you need to do it?
No, the only thing in the...
And just the two of you to use the root.
In the German thing, you need to...
German.
German.
Well, that's my turn.
We're better.
And here we've got...
Yeah.
More different.
So that would tell me it's got oils.
And look, there you have the square stem.
This is different.
I'm going to let you look that one up.
What do you think that one is?
That's Feverfield.
Isn't that pretty?
This is...
Batchelor button, not chicory.
Chicory and Batchelor button look similar.
Chicory, there are seven different kinds.
You can make an herbal coffee out of that.
Yeah.
You do.
Let's check this one out.
Imagine chicory, dandelion, rebode stevia, or sweetener, licorice mint, like a statue of aniculum, and a hit of Madagascar vanilla.
Sounds great.
Here is it.
Well, that's a cottage industry that someone could do.
I see.
We used to do that.
Here's mullein in its second stage starting.
This isn't it, but at first stage, the second year, it'll boom.
This is actually the second year because it's flowers in the second year.
And it'll grow usually to about eight or nine years tall.
And I used to be called mullein muller because I'd go in with a sloth and take it up like the egg.
And instead of picking up a $2 bale, I had a $40 bale.
Okay, but what is mullein?
Again, mullein is an astringent to pull water out of the inner ear or other parts of your body.
You need to pull water out of there.
No, there are things you can do for that as well, and we'll see if we can't find them.
That's black brush.
This is where you grow, this is like a tick motel.
This is where you grow all your ticks.
What do you mean?
That whole thing is loaded with ticks.
That's why you don't want to get blue brush.
Really?
Yeah.
It's Cianocis.
That's the Latin name.
But it's a noxious weed.
And you have to go deticket periodically.
And there are things you can do to limit them wanting to hang around on your dog.
Some of them are toxic to the animal, some are not.
Well, they used to use pennyroyal.
That was the big one.
And they used that for an abortive, for women.
And they found that it caused bleeding, internal bleeding in one in four women.
This might be worth, the root part, $400.
$400.
And the shrub itself is priceless.
It's beautiful.
This is a very special one.
If you jerked this out and farmed it, You would have about an 8-year rotation.
I had about 40 acres up on Spirit Lake until Mount St.
Helens went off.
That's how long I've been doing botanical farming on this.
We were farming a lot of different things for the horticultural industry.
You know, they use this in horticulture and doing it in a shopping mall.
Right.
But anything we didn't do, we just plow the root up and sell it for Exactly.
And you've got sucklings.
This means, this is uh, feel this, feel this, this is cool.
This is where if you were in the desert, you could live on something.
Just freezing it down.
Yeah, I would uh, use it in there.
Or you could suck on it.
And of course, it's seeding part.
See how it's stuck on here?
That means these are very high, when it's like that, very high on omega-3 oil.
So this is like fish oil, only it's a terrestrial thing.
It looks good for you though, isn't it?
Yes, it is.
Yeah, it's a horse crawls, and mostly for low-play.
I get the most omega-3s.
Now, what does it do for you, though, in this particular plant?
I wouldn't use it.
I would find something better.
Personally, you know the ground cycle in your garden?
That has so many, so much, it's the highest terrestrial score.
And when I did a project for the Amish ones, we played, on their chicken farms, we played Mozart music.
Mozart music.
And then a purse line.
And they created a new local store all day.
Marketed up and down the suburb in the Amish location.
Well, you got three cents more in it.
What do you think of the terrestrial source?
Is there an extraterrestrial source or non-terrestrial source?
That's correct, like fish.
Fish oil is your primary source.
That's not a terrestrial source, that's a fish.
So the better you're saying that it's better?
Not if you feed it to chickens, because then your chicken tastes like fish.
So you want to feed them with terrestrial fish.
I see.
And that with the chicken pieces.
And you use, there's some marigolds here and some others that you'll use to model the meat.
The meat of, that's what they call the call, is model.
And so they'll use marigolds in Zantico dyes into the dining yoke and making the meat of the chicken.
And you want to lose one texture, like, kind of thingy.
And then I looked from there and I was like...
Yeah.
Oh, my.
Look at here.
What do you think this is?
Now this...
More lavender?
No.
Yes.
Because lavender has a scratch down.
And this...
I don't know what this is.
I cut myself and I did my little stretch.
Well, is this level?
Yes.
Thank you.
Now, wait one second here.
Isn't this too...
Yes, it is a type of juniper.
That means it's extremely water-green, down here, down on the river.
Are you making gin?
Gin?
Yeah, juniper.
Really?
Yeah, that's where all your gin mows are around.
Juniper Berry is rather than a gin.
Unless you do vodka and then you do potato.
Well, you're talking about the sugars now.
What is this?
That is a Japanese lantern.
Look at here.
They've got...
Oh, alright.
Is it a seed pot?
Yeah.
They're beautiful, aren't they?
Yes.
And what is it?
Nothing.
It looks not.
Yeah, ornamental.
Well, I mean, you know, food can be all kinds of food.
You don't have to eat it.
There you go.
This one thinks about it.
I honestly...
See there's one I don't know.
Maybe.
And the pollens and all the rest of this.
It's all beautiful plants.
You know, it just took more time to see what you're looking at.
You just find all kinds of things.
So what is that?
I don't know.
That's why I'm interested.
But I'll bet...
Look at how this is.
Now that's what I'm doing.
I'm twisting it.
I'm going to melt.
You'll notice what's happening.
I'm going to make fiber over there.
You'll make some food in there.
You'll learn how to spin that right, and you can spin it into itself, and now you've got this rope and other things.
Is this the kind of thing you want me to do?
I didn't know what you wanted me to do.
I didn't have a plan for you, but we're going to go through the garden.
Well, I like being out here.
I'd rather be in here than out there.
I know, I know.
We're going to talk through this stuff later.
Okay, and you've got junipers.
Not junipers.
Eucalyptus.
Yes, eucalyptus.
I love eucalyptus.
And the problem is, that leaf right like that, see how that came off like that?
Eucalyptus leaf will begin to compost within 20 minutes, it'll start to heat up.
Uh-huh, but this is probably a hybrid, not a...
Yeah, right.
You can tell because it doesn't have much oil in it.
Yeah, and it'll also shake the heat.
A little different.
There are different kinds of eucalyptus.
Mostly, down in California, they'll log this out and put you in a rice glue.
Why?
Rice is more money on the land.
No, but when...
Oh, actually, you can put rice...
There's no commercial.
Most of your eucalyptus comes from Spain.
We can't compete without labor, so we don't do nuclear soil per se.
That was one of the studies I did on Ihaas, and we didn't get very far with it.
But this, this has got character to it.
Well, you know, everything has its purpose.
Yeah.
Down on the other side over here, there's all kinds of apples and paper pots.
Anyway, that's enough for you to tape up.
Does that work for you?
Yeah, that works for me.
And we can do more of this later if you want in different topics.
What I like is the biodiversity part of it.
You know where you got more than one thing to do.
There's only two places in the world Where you have eight biospheres that actually come together.
One is in the Anang Province in China, and the other is in the Okanagan, known as the Kamiopsis.
Where's that?
State of Jefferson.
The State of Jefferson?
Yeah.
Which is in what state?
That's the military for Southern Oregon, Northern California, and parts of Nevada.
Oh yeah?
Yeah.
State of Jefferson.
That's very old-fashioned for you, isn't it?
Well, we're all militant here, you know what I mean?
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