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June 27, 2012 - Project Camelot

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06/27/2012 - Mind Control Panel

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	There is a Jaguar outside my door
	Stretched out and purring, waiting for more.
	Strange shade of stone, deep cat-eye green.
	No way to escape, no one hears my scream.
	He's come here so often, just when I'm alone.
	I can't help the longing of feeling alone.
	He's a child, he's a child.
	Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio.
	He's a jolly, he's a jolly.
	And we are going to be having a very interesting show this evening.
	Sorry, I'm just cracking up over one of these bios because, actually, I guess this is an ancestor.
	Because it says he died in 1887, so I'm going to assume that that was like, I don't know, a glitch.
	But we'll get there.
	So what we're going to do tonight is have a panel on mind control.
	And we've got three very illustrious guests.
	And I also want to direct you, if you're listening, to my Front page of ProjectCamelot.org, where you can go and find the radio show icons.
	Also get their names, and you will see a link there to click and join the chat if you should be so inclined.
	And that also goes for the speakers that are here on the call with me.
	And we've got Richard Cain, Derek Robinson, and Peter Rosenholm and actually what I'm going to do is I hope you guys will indulge me for just a minute.
	I also have a few announcements to make very quickly and then we'll kind of leap into to the whole discussion here.
	Okay, and we can also get to the bottom of one of these files, which is very, it's just very interesting.
	Okay, I'm going to see if this is going to work, and this is a total experiment, so bear with me.
	I have an interview coming out that is going to be, well, I would say it's kind of gangbusters.
	And I would like to give you guys a preview of a little bit about what this interview is all about.
	And the person's name is Norm Bergrum.
	He wrote a book called Ringmakers of Saturn.
	And hopefully this is going to come out all right.
	So I'm going to play this right here.
	When you say things are getting critical, are you talking about Something to do with the vehicles that are in the rings of Saturn?
	Yes, yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	So, I was behind closed doors for some time, and my clearance was way, way, way above top secret.
	So, can you tell us, are you able to tell us your title when you were working in this sort of division behind three doors?
	No, I have probably three or four pages of titles.
	I don't know which one I'm going to land on.
	And I can tell things, when I mean things, the conditions are getting critical.
	And I find that some scientists also think that.
	And so I think when I do publish, that group anyway will agree with me full-heartedly.
	All right, I'm going to put that on my website later so that you will be able to hear it very loud and very clear.
	It's just a very short excerpt of the interview I did with Norm Berggrum, who is 91 years old.
	And it's just amazing.
	So we're going to go right to this interview here with these three guys.
	First of all, let me see, which one is it?
	I guess it's Richard Cain.
	Can you explain to me why you're linking, as your bio, to Richard Harvey Cain, who died in 1887?
	Oh yeah, he's my great-great-grandfather.
	As illustrious as he may be, I think that people would like to know a little about your background.
	So what I like to do is go one person after the other, and rather than me reading from your bios, why don't you just kind of encapsulate what your background is about.
	Uh, as it relates to what we're talking about today, or just kind of... Sure.
	I mean, you can, you know, if you have other things that they're seemingly unrelated but still interesting, go ahead and, you know, throw those in.
	I was born in Chicago, moved to California for a ball scholarship, and I've been in California ever since.
	I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Criminal Justice, I have a minor in Pre-Law, I have a Juris Doctorate from Southern California Institute of Law, an LLM Master of Laws from Thomas Jefferson School of Law, and I'm studying for the bar and I'm a PhD candidate at Thomas Jefferson School of Law.
	And, um, how it relates to today's show, um, I, uh, walked into a police department, asked if I was under some type of surveillance because my company, Elite Attorney Service, just happened to, I just happened to do surveillance myself and stakeouts and, and, um, I walked in, asked a question, they told me no.
	The very next day, um, helicopters and everything showed up at the beach and it's been this way for two and a half years now.
	I mean, two years now.
	Okay, very interesting.
	That's great.
	Thank you very much for that.
	And okay, so the next person, well, whichever one would like to step forward now, Peter or Derek, go right ahead.
	Okay, I guess I'll go next.
	My name is Derek Robinson, and I hope you can hear me okay.
	Basically, I was born in Cincinnati, Ohio.
	I attended Ohio Western University and graduated with a degree in speech and theater.
	And still after that I wasn't sure what I wanted to do exactly, and ended up going into the Navy, which was okay, except that I wound up at NSA.
	National Security Agency for about seven years.
	I was involved with that.
	And during that time was when I became targeted for surveillance, observation, etc.
	The last year I was in the service.
	Okay, so that was, I was about 28 by the time I left the service.
	The surveillance activity started, the stalking activity, I endured that for about 20 years until around 2004 when I discovered that there were a multitude of others who were also being surveilled and harassed in a variety of ways.
	So it was about a year later that we started this organization.
	We started a conference call group and then it just kind of grew into an organization.
	We now have about 1,600 subscribers to our group.
	There are various types of harassment that we're experiencing.
	There's an arsenal of mind control technologies that are being used on many of us, from actual mind control and mind reading, to body manipulation, to voice to skull technologies.
	Uh, and as well as the stalking and harassment that goes on.
	Uh, these, uh, all of these, um, uh, these techniques are designed to, um, kind of deconstruct an individual, I would say.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry to interrupt you here, Derek.
	Thank you very much for giving us your background and a bit of that.
	What I want to do is just get the backgrounds right now and then we'll get into the whole discussion.
	Sure.
	If you don't mind.
	So the next person we want to hear from, I guess, is Peter Rosenholm.
	Okay.
	Hi.
	I guess I'd like to start with I became a mind control victim, same as the others.
	But the things we started doing were the Big Brother billboards to let the public know that there are electronic weapons being used against us and others.
	We did that in a couple states.
	Then came along the President's bioethics that was to look into the Guatemalan STD experiments.
	Myself, Derek, and many others attended that.
	We gave testimony and found out it was basically a cover-up.
	Uh, you know, we've gone on and done a lot of things like an international call to find out that this is tied into the new world order, that people all around the world are experiencing this.
	Uh, I've been filmed with Jesse Ventura in a show and we'll see if I make the cut and if it comes out, but that's pretty much it.
	Okay, well, great.
	And so all three of you are really, you know, you have substantial backgrounds, not only in, you know, your own personal exposure to this sort of technology, but you also have substantial backgrounds that are very respectable and can lend themselves but you also have substantial backgrounds that are very respectable and can lend themselves to analyzing what is exactly going on, which is very, very useful, I think,
	We did have a group of other people that were sort of, it seems that you're all part of this organization, and correct me if I'm wrong, because initially you sent me several names.
	There was a whole list.
	I just didn't think that we could handle it all on one radio show that's only two hours long with a number of commercials, as you're going to see.
	But I'd love to, at some point, try to get you all together, maybe on a live stream, what we call a Camelot Roundtable, and maybe we can do that at some point.
	Be that as it may, why don't we... Is there one of you that wants to kind of describe the phenomena in general terms?
	And then maybe we could go around and get each person's story.
	You started to tell me your stories, obviously, as part of your bio, but I'm sure that there's a more intricate, you know, sort of blow-by-blow that you could give us.
	And I think people would find that very fascinating.
	First of all, if there's someone who wants to give an overview of this whole thing, and if it's Derek, that's fine.
	Whoever among you you think would be that kind of person.
	Do you want to go with it?
	OK, I can I can kind of give a basic idea of what we're dealing with.
	This is, this mostly has to do with what we call organized stalking and remote electronic assaults.
	And these are the two main, and also voice to skull technology.
	These are basically the three main types of attacks that most of our, the victims that contact us are dealing with.
	Many of those that contact us do not know where these attacks are coming from.
	We feel that a lot of this is coming from the intelligence agencies.
	And these are basically several types of weaponry that we're dealing with.
	Electromagnetic activity, also laser technology and acoustic technology.
	So basically, people are receiving, with the microwave, some type of burning to their skin.
	The laser attacks can cause eye irritation or blurred vision.
	The voice-to-skull technology is technology where people are actually beaming their voices into one's mind.
	And you actually, there are viewers that might be hearing someone else's voice.
	They recognize that it's a voice that is other than the voice of their own mind that is talking to them.
	And these types of weapon systems are used for basically to deconstruct an individual.
	To make them think that they are going crazy.
	And then when you try to explain this to someone, they will assume that you have mental issues.
	And many of our members have spent time in mental institutions because they've tried to explain this to police, to their family and friends that this is happening to them.
	So a lot of these attacks are kind of surprises.
	People don't know where they're coming from and how to get remedies for these attacks.
	So we're dealing with covert activities, covert actors that remain in the shadows and they are attacking people with this type of covert weaponry.
	So what we are trying to do is try to find the source of these individuals, where they Why they are attacking people, what their purpose is.
	We're seeking a congressional investigation, congressional hearings, legislation that would make these type of technologies illegal.
	And hopefully we can get all this activity, this COVID activity stopped in some way.
	Okay, thank you.
	Well, I want to say, because from what I can tell, all of you don't really know about Project Camelot, and I just want to sort of tell you a little bit about the audience that you've got here.
	We interview whistleblowers from black projects with above-top-secret clearances.
	That's our main focus but we also interview experiencers and other people, researchers such as yourselves and we have have dealt with mind control a lot in the past.
	Various, certainly we get exposed to it directly and we also have had other sort of speakers and researchers in that area who have been fairly active on my radio show in the past as well.
	So that you're not talking to an audience that is unfamiliar with this.
	I just wanted to let you know that.
	And that's great that you've given such a clear sort of statement in the beginning here.
	What I'd like to do from this point on is, I think, for the listener base that you've got here, because they are familiar with mind control and, you know, all kinds of different weaponry, but, of course, bring your own perspective to the table.
	And that's very valuable to everyone.
	And it's great that you are seeking a certain amount of, I guess you might call it, political action, you know, Surrounding this subject matter, because that's a very interesting approach.
	From the perspective of Camelot, anyway, because we deal with the powers that be and the power structures that are behind our government, the secret government, etc.
	And so if you could tell me, let's see, I'd like to sort of start going around and I guess we would start again with Richard Cain and get your, a little more detail about your personal exposure.
	What is your personal story?
	And we're actually going to have to come right back after this commercial and get that from you, Richard.
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	Okay, this is Kerry Cassidy.
	Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we are doing a panel discussion on mind control with some more or less experts I think you might say in the field, and you guys can classify yourself however you'd like.
	I do want to give a sort of a breaking news, and I'm sorry for the departure here, but if people will go to my blog on the front page of Project Camelot, there is a post there from a Contact who is saying that there is an alert right now going through the military in regard to the Persian Gulf Middle East.
	They are saying it's the highest or near highest alert.
	There is concern over Syria and I guess NATO going into Turkey.
	At this time British troops as well.
	Something about the Strait of Hormuz.
	And they're saying that Saudi troops are on high alert.
	And there is a lot going on over in that area of the world right now.
	And we're kind of getting some blow by blow feedback from from out in the ether, so to speak.
	So okay, back to the subject at hand.
	Right before the break, I guess it was, let's see, Richard Cain, I was asking you to give a little more detail on your personal exposure, so how you got involved in this and why it kind of has made you focus the way you have.
	Right.
	Well, as I stated earlier, it was August 21, 2010.
	I walked into a local police department, and after seeing everywhere I traveled, it seemed to be a law enforcement vehicle every night and day, no matter what time.
	And so I walked in and identified myself along with the president of the NAACP of that county, and say I'm a law clerk at the public defender's office.
	I'm a superior court mediator.
	I'm in my last semester of law school.
	And I own a company by the name of Elite Attorney Services.
	They ran my driver's license, so there's nothing we can think of, and we don't see any problem.
	The very next day, I'm at Zuma Beach, and a black-and-white helicopter came out of nowhere, along with a mobile command vehicle, which I've got pictures of all that stuff.
	And from that day up until September 15, 2010, when my car was missing that morning when I went out to get in it, And long story short, it had been towed, and when I got to the tow yard, you could tell someone had gone through it, and a briefcase that I had in the trunk had been broken into, and all I had in it was bills.
	So I fired off a letter to the police chief, and I filed a police report, and I continued on my life from that point forward, and every single day since that all happened, I've been followed by air, ground, you name it.
	It's happened every jurisdiction I go into.
	I've written letters to the Attorney General's office.
	I've written police departments.
	You name it, I've done it.
	So in between this entire time, I started to observe over the last year exactly My six and four-year-old son's sleeping patterns changed.
	They were acting really strange.
	They were flailing about in their sleep.
	And in my mind, it was almost like a robot.
	Like their one arm would move up and fall back down.
	And then the other, they sleep right next to each other.
	And the other one's arm would do, same arm would do the same thing on him.
	And I said, what the heck?
	And prior to that, I would hear like a thump type of sound on the roof.
	And then like a wood crackling type of sound, and shortly thereafter, that's when their movement started.
	And so I put two and two together, and I happened to come across Derek's website, Freedom From Covert Harassment, by the grace of God, and I started reading up on, you know, this stuff was new to me, I had no idea what it was, and I saw a clip on there of a lady talking about biochips.
	And as I was listening to the clip and watching her, she then said, here are the symptoms and here are some of the movements.
	And I saw three of the movements that I saw in my four-year-old.
	And I said, oh my God, my son Caden did that.
	So, it just so happens to be that weekend, around January 1st of 2012, that Mr. Beltran was doing what they call radio frequency scans in Sacramento.
	I have family in the Bay Area, so I drove down, and on January 1st, I visited with Mr. Beltran, and I'm concerned about my kids, because I knew something outside of a normal behavior was making them do what they were doing.
	And he scanned them both, and they both came up positive in two different areas of their body.
	And so, Mr. Beltran says, well, typically, if it's one or two members in the family, it's probably more likely that you have something in you, too.
	And I was like, oh, no, never, never, not me, no way.
	And as soon as he starts scanning me, bells and whistles start ringing everywhere.
	And to cut it real short, once I reach back to where I live at, I immediately start requesting x-rays and CT scans and you name it.
	And all the x-rays and CT scans that I have to date show foreign objects sitting exactly where we all three were scanned.
	And of course, the doctors are saying that the images, that the CT scans and x-rays are normal.
	And to cut it even shorter, I've now gathered all of my medical records.
	I start calling the hospitals.
	I'd only been in the hospital one time in my life overnight, and that was in 2008.
	So I ordered those medical records immediately.
	And the day that those medical records showed up at my residence, there were huge brown up in there.
	And I'd never seen an envelope like that in my life.
	I opened it up, and there was a set of chest x-rays with my name, date of birth, the whole nine yards there, and I see these, what I now know are called implant leads, and some devices at the end of them.
	So I immediately called to schedule, uh, an X-ray 2012 X-ray, which I believe I sent in.
	And, uh, the 2012 X-ray confirmed what was in the 2008.
	And then I slowly, but surely got X-rays of my sons and objects are sitting in their bodies.
	They're foreign.
	And none of the doctors seem to see anything.
	And so as I continue to gather my medical records, I said, you know, I'm going to go all the way back because I remember this and that.
	Similar circumstances happening to me.
	So I found another set of x-rays from 2004 when I was yet at another hospital.
	Just to get my blood pressure checked and apparently what's happened is every time I visited those two hospitals where the x-rays showed up, apparently something occurred where I was unconscious and I'm finding implant leads in my body along with other devices.
	So that's how I became involved in this.
	I got my first jolt, I'll call it a jolt, on April 3rd, 30th, 2011.
	I woke up about 530 in the morning to a knife-like jolt to the left temple.
	And at the same time, I could hear someone creeping above me.
	That's the tenant in the above apartment.
	And I said, you know, this had to be something.
	I put two and two together and I figured it.
	I didn't know what it was, but it's that person that did something.
	And so I got out of my apartment and every since that time I've been doing research on all of this and that's how I found Freedom From Covert Harassment and other sites that talks about electromagnetic devices and things like that and every since that time I've been on a mission.
	To not only save me and my sons and to help other people with the knowledge and things that I have discovered just with my own experiences.
	I've been on a mission to help everybody that I can and there's going to be some litigation coming up fairly shortly.
	I've already put in notice, people on notice, there's 14 doctors and 3 medical facilities that I plan to file a lawsuit against because I've got a lot of evidence Where they're changing their medical records, deleting names, and basically evidence of omissions of guilt, so to speak.
	So that's where I'm at in the process.
	I need answers.
	Okay.
	That's excellent information, and you're a lawyer on top of it, as you said in your initial statements, right?
	Well, actually, no, no.
	I'm studying for the bar.
	Okay, but you've got a background.
	Oh yeah, I know what to do.
	I know what to do, definitely.
	Okay, so my question to you is whether or not you've tried to get those implants removed.
	Yes, I have.
	And what's interesting about this, and I'll tell you, I've heard it with my own ears, I walked into one place and before I can get through the door, the phones are ringing and someone's claiming jurisdiction or saying something to where the doctors, you know, even one doctor who says he could feel the implant leads through my skin, he saw the x-rays and agreed they're foreign objects and about a week or so before he was going to schedule to remove them,
	He let me know that he talked with the radiologist who first wrote the first report saying that the x-rays were normal, and that radiologist says they're normal, so they're normal.
	There's nothing there.
	And I'm thinking to myself, wait a minute, I just met with you, you gave me a full body exam, you identified the surgical scars that are still on my body from where I was cut open, and obviously the device is placed in me.
	He saw all of this stuff, but his whole song and dance changed.
	within two or three days after leaving his office.
	And someone obviously made a call to him, and this is being covered up.
	Okay.
	Well, very, very interesting.
	And the X-rays don't lie.
	I've shared them with everybody on the planet, and everybody can see objects sitting in my chest cavity, and they can see them in my sun.
	So based on everything I've gathered to date, it appears that going back to 1999, because I've got one medical record where one doctor went all the way back to updating my medical record.
	For some strange reason, and he's not the only doctor, there's several of them that seem to have nothing else to do after 5 p.m.
	but update my medical records over going back to 1999.
	So, something's going on, there's a cover-up, and somebody with a lot of power is making the doctors say there's nothing there.
	And some of the doctors are involved, but I believe a few of the doctors have no idea what's going on, but they're being told.
	Whatever, national security, whatever it is, they're being told.
	saying nothing's there.
	Okay, well, just offhand, because I haven't actually asked you guys directly, I'm just inferring from kind of the way you're talking.
	Are you familiar with Project Camelot?
	Have you seen any of our Super Soldier videos by chance?
	No, I haven't.
	Not Super Soldier.
	I've seen the Peterson videos I've seen.
	Okay.
	I've seen lots of your videos, but I haven't seen that though.
	Exactly.
	Okay, so Duncan O'Finney, you've I want to make one more point if I could.
	I don't know if I sent you the CT scan.
	If you look at the 2008 x-ray and you can see the wires wrapped around my left thigh and right side of my body, there's at least, I mean we've counted probably at least Maybe 10 or more implant leads wrapped around my body.
	And they're all still in there.
	I mean, I don't want to give too much detail because, like I said, there's going to be litigation coming up.
	But the devices are there.
	You can see them in action.
	We can see them with a layman's eye.
	Most certainly, you would think a skilled radiologist and a doctor could say, wow, what is that?
	At the very least, if they don't know what it is, they could say, wow, that's sporn.
	That looks weird.
	What is that?
	Okay, can I just ask you, what is your physique like?
	I don't mean to get personal here, but are you tall?
	Did you play sports in school?
	Yeah, I played wide receiver in college.
	I'm 6 foot 200 pounds.
	At the time, in 2008, I was in my first year of law school.
	So, you know, you put a little bit on, you know, because you're so busy studying.
	Sure.
	And you know what I found out through this process?
	It's easy to hide the implants and all the stuff that they throw in you if you're overweight.
	And now, guess what's happened in the last, since I found all this, I went back to my football training days and I've dropped tremendous amount of weight around the waist and I look like a walking x-ray.
	And guess what you can see right through my skin?
	Well, this is, you know, this is just real super soldier kind of stuff.
	I hate to tell you, but anyway, you know, and we've got more interesting information along these lines and you may or may not want to go down that road, but I can encourage you to do so because you sort of fit the profile, so to speak, for that.
	The other two people do not seem to, at least at first glance.
	I have pictures of them.
	Interestingly, I don't have a picture of you, but it's all good.
	Really?
	Yeah, on your Skype you don't have a picture, but the other ones do.
	So it doesn't matter, but I'm just going by your description of yourself.
	The next person we would talk to here in terms of personal stories, and I really appreciate this you guys, is Peter Rosenholm.
	Peter, could you tell us a little bit about how you got involved in this?
	I guess if you have implants and kind of like describe the story in a little more detail and why you're doing what you're doing.
	Sure.
	I didn't talk about how it started with me.
	But basically at 25 I started a robotic machine shop.
	It was early for robots and I started a company and interfaced the first home computer with computerized machines and was machining abstract molds.
	It was around 1995 that I started hearing subliminal thoughts.
	You think a thought in your head and you hear an answer and you know it's not you.
	And it wasn't long after that that I found out that police had tapped my phone.
	The excuse was the company next door's alarm system had a fault and they thought maybe I had tapped into the line.
	Then I got a call one night that someone, my door was open.
	It appears police broke into my company.
	Nothing well, even though there were thousands of dollars in tools.
	My mail all of a sudden stopped coming.
	And could you give us what year was this, that this was going on?
	This is all going on around 1995.
	Okay.
	And so I went down to the post office and tried to file a complaint.
	They wouldn't let me.
	This is the beginning of, I mean, Integrating doctors, postmen, of course we have the postman going postal around then too.
	I think Mind Control was working on them as one of the first groups.
	And then my mail came in in a flood.
	All, you know, I had checks coming in, they were ripped.
	My company was taking off at that point.
	I might have been in business eight years at that point, so I was on my way.
	Then all of a sudden all my work stopped.
	I connected with a large company and ran with them for about four or five months and then that stopped.
	And then I had to close doors.
	It was somewhere around almost 10 years.
	So first thing they did was they stopped my company, which, you know, it was pretty advanced for its time.
	And I was very young, very ambitious.
	I had also built a home and built a daycare into it for my wife.
	One morning, we wake up and there's... Okay, we've got a commercial coming on here.
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	Project Camelot Whistleblower Radio and we are talking to really people that have been very much exposed to mind control but they also appear to be experts in that area on some level.
	So we've got Richard Cain, Derek Robinson and Peter Rosenholm who are on the line with me and right now we're going through their personal stories and how they got involved in all of this.
	And, let's see, at this point, I guess we were talking to Peter Rosenholm right before the break, and Peter, you were telling us about your robotics company, which was way ahead of its time, and you come at this from a completely different vantage point than Richard Cain, which is really great for people to hear, because these people do target completely different types.
	And certainly someone with advanced scientific sort of acumen would be definitely a target and apparently you were.
	So do you want to finish talking about what happened to your company and continue your story there?
	Sure, I will.
	But I'd also like to point out that when I first realized there were others out there like me, and at the time Derek had done a survey, we found that there was a great deal of us that were all around the same age.
	We were also separated by 50 or 100 miles apart.
	We were all over the country.
	Recently, I worked on setting up an international call, and we found out that there are people like us all around the globe.
	Uh, Richard mentioned the people above him in the apartment.
	Many times they do that.
	They move in above you, they follow you, they drop heavy things above you wherever you go.
	It's psychological warfare.
	But to go on, they put my company out of business, and I had built a couple homes, and in the home I lived in, my wife had a daycare.
	One day we woke up and there was pornography, gun magazines, with a police officer's address on it.
	Timer didn't realize it, but we called police, we caught it.
	I mean, keep in mind, moms and their little toddlers would have walked by that, you know, coming to the daycare.
	So it was an effort to put her business out as well.
	This is part of the isolation that almost all of us go through.
	Many of us are single, or many of us were married and become divorced and end up isolated.
	And to be in this program, that that's a major goal.
	So, the officer who came and picked up the material, you know, goes through my life, to where I had to make a complaint against him, to a roadblock and a false arrest.
	On and on, it's the same officer each time.
	It was years later that I realized that before I built this home I lived in another neighborhood down the road about a mile or two away.
	And I lived across the street from this guy and he had stories about him fighting with his neighbor across the street shining lights in each other's windows.
	And later I found out this police officer didn't go around and do his job.
	He hung out in a gas station drinking beer and smoking pot And teaching the psychological warfare tactics.
	And this guy shining the lights in the guy's window, he was one of the people in that gas station learning these techniques.
	So, you know, as we go on, we realize that we were all around the same age, spread out across the country, later we found out across the globe.
	I'm beginning to see this as weapon testing.
	They tested, uh, Derek's mentioned the V2K.
	The Omnibus V2K has the ability to send voices to people's heads or subliminal.
	Subliminal comes as thought.
	Through pulse-modulated microwaves.
	They can do this to humans and animals.
	One example is birds at the airport.
	They send out a V2K for their size brain, and it keeps them away from the airport.
	So in any case, my marriage, well, it's true.
	No, no, no.
	I appreciate that.
	But please do continue with your personal story because it's very pertinent to later discussion for people.
	And I'd love to hear what, you know, if you were in robotics, you obviously closed down your company.
	Did you go back into it at any time?
	Because that was 1995.
	Certainly with the Internet and so on and so forth, you must have done more kinds of technical things since then.
	Right.
	Well, I did go to work for one of my customers.
	And sold a good amount of my equipment to him.
	It was shortly thereafter my hand started going numb at night and I got carpal tunneling and I ended up being let go from the job and going for the operations and I woke up and the doctor was trying to ram the instrument through my hand and my hand ended up disabled over it and I wondered if it was a hobbling technique.
	I did get the head doctor of a hospital Along with another doctor spent two or three hours opening it up to take out all the scar tissue to try to repair it.
	He mentioned to me that in Europe they don't have carpal tunnel.
	So it now seems like the carpal tunnel was another directed energy weapons attack that they did to me at night, causing my wrists to swell, blocking off the nerves, making my hands not function.
	So, this is how it went on, and then I'm isolated, and I rent out my... I built my home so I could rent out the second floor, or it'd be one big home, and since I get divorced, it was... I now was renting out the second floor, and the brother of two police moved in, and he pretended he lived alone, but while I'm recovering from these operations, people are walking across the floor above me, and I can feel it.
	I'm bouncing.
	It was...
	The floors were 26 by 26, so it was a large open area, with no walls, so sitting in a chair, hanging, I could feel them walking around.
	I called the police at one point, to say that someone else was up there, and they came, about a dozen of them, guns all drawn on my house, to make a big scene of it.
	And I could hear one cop say, this guy's gonna be difficult.
	It ended up police following me, black SUVs following me, Uh, the harassment continued.
	I evicted those tenants and police came and threatened me and they said, you have evicted.
	We went to the courthouse papers on the way home and caught at every side road along the parking, along the parkway to show me that they were watching me.
	It was, you know, it seemed okay for about a year and then They moved in next door and it all started up again.
	And, you know, for many of us, this is a lifetime of abuse.
	And they tested all kinds of weapons on me.
	One attack that put me in the hospital was a weapon called Medusa.
	It's a high-powered microwave weapon.
	It made all the food gurgle through my intestines and defecate it.
	I was doubling over vibrating.
	It had an attack mode I was hearing very, very loud threats that they were going to kill me.
	When I was urinating brown, so I went to the hospital.
	On the way to the hospital, a call came into the ambulance to divert it to a small hospital.
	There, it was all covered up.
	And you know, it just, it goes on and on.
	This is, this is your life once you become targeted.
	Okay, well I'm still interested did you ever get back into robotics because obviously you were very advanced in that area that does pertain to a lot of our information and one of you at least just said you listened to the Pete Peterson interview and I'd like to refer you to the Pete Peterson interview if you haven't heard that I highly recommend it for you but
	Can you tell me, did you go back into robotics even intellectually or in any other way since 95?
	Yeah, I went back into robotics and while sitting there trying to do my work, I was getting V2K threats.
	It was really impossible to work.
	And since I had the carpal tunnel and all that, I went out on disability.
	Uh-huh.
	I thought it was better to fight it that way than trying to hold a job and be attacked while I'm sitting there.
	Okay, well, very, very interesting.
	Thank you for that.
	Okay, and Derek Robinson, you're the last one here that we'd still like to hear your personal story, if you don't mind.
	Okay, I guess to give a little more detail about what happened is that, as I mentioned earlier, I was in the service, I was in the military, and I became stationed Well, in the military they give you a choice of what you want to do.
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	So, what they did was they sent me to this place that I had never heard of.
	It was called NSA.
	The National Security Agency.
	And I really didn't know what that was.
	But they said I was going to learn... I picked Hebrew for the language that I wanted to learn.
	And when I got there, I learned that they were going to teach me special Arabic.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	I'm sorry.
	I picked Arabic for the language I wanted to learn.
	And when they got there, the language they picked for me was special Arabic, which turned out to be Hebrew.
	Which is fine.
	It's a wonderful language.
	I enjoy it.
	So anyway, that was my introduction to the National Security Agency.
	Okay, we're going to go to a commercial, which has just sort of blasted through here.
	Sorry about this, Derek, and we'll be right back and continue your story.
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	Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we are doing a panel here on mind control and listening to the personal stories, first of all, of my guests, and that is Richard Cain, Derek Robinson, and Peter Rosenholm.
	We just listened to Peter Rosenholm, and we're about to be listening to Derek Robinson, who had just started when we went to break.
	So, Derek, you started to explain how you kind of I guess you were recruited or they tried to recruit you into the NSA?
	Is that what you were saying?
	Because it actually wasn't clear when I was listening.
	Okay, basically what happened was that I was already in the service, and what I was explaining was that they asked, we get a choice of what we want to do, what job we want to do in the service, and I picked that I wanted to do language.
	So basically what they did was, and I specified Arabic was what I wanted to learn, so what they did was assign me to a place called I see what you're saying.
	Okay.
	A place called NSA.
	It was a place that I had never heard of.
	You know?
	Oh, well I'm going to learn language and it'll be lots of fun.
	Maybe I'll go to an embassy and translate things or whatever.
	You know, it sounds, you know, really exotic or whatever.
	However, actually working there is not exotic at all.
	It was definitely military, what I was doing.
	It wasn't like civilian.
	It wasn't anything to do with stalking or harassment that many of us are experiencing today.
	But it was definitely military, what I was doing.
	And I found out later about the stalking, about the spying, about the harassment that goes on domestically.
	NSA is tasked with foreign communications and foreign spying.
	Any kind of domestic spying was taboo at that time.
	That's basically what I was doing, doing foreign work with the foreign militaries.
	It was interesting.
	I went to some interesting places.
	About the last year of my enlistment, I realized I had come under surveillance.
	There was what we call street theater going on around me in this one place, the office where I was working, and I started to feel that I was being pressured out of my workplace.
	Okay, and can you say, were you in another country at that time?
	I was actually stationed at Fort Meade, Maryland.
	And that is basically the headquarters of NSA.
	I see.
	And when you say street theater going on outside your workplace, can you be a little more specific?
	Sure.
	Basically, these are kind of community jargon.
	And basically, these are kind of scenes or words or phrases that are taken from your personal life that you will recognize that maybe someone else wouldn't.
	By some of the things that people were saying around me, I realized that they were spying on me.
	And they were telling all these people and they were trying to create a pressurized work space.
	So anyway it was a lot of harassment in that way and actually there was so much pressure that I ended up having a talk with my With my commanding officer.
	And I ended up turning in my clearance.
	Basically what was going on, they had a suspicion I was being gay, I was gay in the military.
	And a lot of these activities had to do with that.
	So I just had to talk with them and turn in my clearance.
	About a year later, I was processed out of the military, and I thought, I was kind of hoping that that would be kind of the end of the harassment.
	However, that was just the beginning.
	That was about 30 years ago, and it's still happening.
	About the 25-year mark of my harassment, Was when the internet started coming along and people started to log on and etc.
	So I decided around 2004 is when I joined and it was at that time that I discovered the community.
	When I first signed on, I was looking for things like lawsuits against the military, that kind of thing.
	Eventually, and for a long time, I searched in that particular area, but one day I decided to type in mind control.
	And that was what did it.
	That was what brought up the community and I discovered that there were tons, there were dozens and dozens of people who had similar experiences to what I was experiencing.
	That people were following them as well.
	That they were hearing voices.
	That there were people that had access to their thoughts and were harassing them because they knew what they were thinking.
	And it was such a revelation and such a relief that other people were also experiencing this.
	Because I had no conception that I would be able to speak about that someone was able to read my mind.
	That the government had technology that could read a person's mind.
	Who would I tell that to?
	However, I did discover, it was quite a discovery, when I found people that were also being technologically terrorized as I was.
	So, I immediately started to post with them and to join with them in their activities.
	And that was really the beginning of the Targeted Individual Community at that particular time.
	Okay, and what about implants?
	Did you ever check yourself for implants?
	I did not.
	Basically, the implant scanning sessions have started to happen in our community over the past year.
	Peter actually is working with a colleague of his, Jesse Beltran, and they have, over the past few months, been scanning individuals in our community for these implants, these microchip implants.
	And he can tell you more about the exact numbers and the percentages and things like that.
	But a high percentage of them have turned up positive for microchip implants with this scanning technology.
	I myself also went through a scanning session and I have been found to have multiple areas where a signal is emitting from my body.
	So that possibly I could have been implanted in the military during this time.
	So what we're discovering is and there are reports that most Americans, everyone, most everyone in American society is implanted.
	That is reported.
	But we are trying to discover exactly how, what percentage are actually implanted.
	That's one of the things that we are trying to do with the scanning sessions that we're starting.
	What are the numbers?
	If you go to many of our members that have come to us have discovered that they have had surgeries and have come home only to find that they have been implanted.
	And they know because these symptoms start, the voices that they hear, the pains in their body, the remote body manipulation, these type of symptoms start to occur.
	So then they find their way to our website and they discover that many others are also experiencing this.
	But a lot of this happens in the hospitals, people going in for surgeries.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you very much for that.
	You know, we have got some people that are also calling in and asking questions, and we are on the second hour now of this.
	And thank you, Derek, for giving us some of your background there.
	Again, all three of you have really fascinating stories, I have to say, and I appreciate you sharing them with us.
	So what we can do here is just so you know that we have a chat session going on and if people want to put their questions in all caps it helps me to see those questions if you don't mind and then at the same time I'm going to try to find the window with the call-ins.
	Okay, here it is.
	And so we've got several people holding on the line.
	If you don't mind, I'm going to take some of these phone calls.
	Do you guys mind if we do that?
	It looks like this is generating a lot of phone calls.
	No, that's fine.
	Okay, and then at some point we can also, if there's something that you want to say that hasn't been covered, we can also, you know, take a break from the phone calls to also do that.
	So, we've got an Area Code 408.
	You're on the line with the Mind Control Panel and Keri Cassidy.
	Are you talking to me?
	Yes, Area Code 408, if you're calling in to our show.
	Yes, I'm also just put in to disability I was making $62,000 a year, and now I'm making $1,300 a month.
	I was security, in security, and working at Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, which is run by Stanford University and the Department of Energy.
	I was tortured so bad, burned, burned all the way to work, driving, burned as soon as I get out of my car, burning.
	All the way to my office.
	I went to a psychiatrist.
	They sent me to a psychiatrist, the doctor did, and they put me on some medications to calm me down.
	I told them that I think I'm being attacked by some type of weapon.
	It seems like maybe a microwave weapon or something because it happens at work and when I'm driving my car.
	It started me on psychiatric meds and I'm trying to take as least as possible one pill a night right now but it's just I can't go anywhere without being burned.
	I live in Silicon Valley where all the technology is and there are so many people working for the network here That you can't.
	There's police everywhere here.
	And are somebody with their brights on following you right all the way from one house to another house?
	You know what I mean?
	So I am followed constantly.
	I burn wherever I go.
	My neck, shoulders, back burned.
	I have The police have lied where I've lived, uh, at certain residences where I've lived.
	I was just moving my car, turning around and moving my car into the driveway one morning and a policeman stopped me and said, you failed to yield a yield.
	And it ended up with a whole unit being called on me.
	Uh, and I hit with a security guard.
	I was getting ready to go to work and I figured I'm kind of in the same business you are, Mr. Policeman.
	And he thought I had a gun because I told him I was a security guard.
	And so they searched my car.
	They tore my car apart looking for a gun.
	I lived two houses down.
	They went to my house, woke up my daughter.
	They asked if I own a firearm.
	She said, I do have a rifle in my closet and it was unloaded and she went and got it and gave it to the police.
	And the police wrote down in the report that my daughter said that I'm schizophrenic and I've stopped taking my medication, which she didn't say.
	And they said that I was driving around with a shotgun, threatening to kill myself and others.
	And they took me to a psychiatric ward.
	And there, And there, I almost lost my job because it took me eight days to get out.
	I kept saying, there's nothing wrong with me, but you can't get out of the psychiatric ward by not agreeing with the doctors.
	You have to tell the doctors exactly what they want to hear.
	You know what I mean?
	Yes, Collin, you obviously have a fascinating story and I really appreciate this, but we have other callers waiting and what I want to do is... Yeah, I'd just like to know if there's other people that are just It's burning all the time, you know, and can't go anywhere hardly.
	I'd love for at least one of our speakers here to address some of the things you've mentioned, and then perhaps you could get in touch with them offline.
	I do want to let you know that the fact that you're a security guard and you're working at the Linear Accelerator, that's a very hot part of the Secret Space program, and I'm sure that they're very concerned over you so that for some reason they've decided to target you.
	But does one of our speakers want to start?
	You know, this is very common, what she's saying.
	This is happening to thousands of people, and not just in America, all around the world.
	It seems like a lot of us are in very high-tech situations, and what she says is very true.
	Okay.
	Caller, I want to thank you very much for calling, and please do get in touch with these people.
	Their websites are listed.
	Do you guys have contact information on your websites as well?
	Yes, we do.
	The website is freedomfchs.com.
	There is an email address as well as a voicemail there.
	Okay.
	Caller, did you hear that?
	Yes.
	Okay, thank you very much for calling in.
	You know, your story is very important, so please do follow it up and feel free to write to Project Camelot as well.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Okay, we've got, you know, the calls are just lining up here, guys, so if you don't mind, I'm just going to have to go through them and try to bring them on.
	Area Code 949, you are on the line with the Mind Control Panel.
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	Hello, this is Dee Dee Hall.
	I am Dolores Hall.
	I'm calling from Orange County, California.
	You shouldn't have said your whole name, but since you did, that's okay.
	Protect yourself.
	It's best that you don't say your first and last name.
	Callers, could you just say your first name only?
	Yes, I am part of Freedom.
	I am the Los Angeles Coordinator for Freedom from Corporate Harassment and I'm a victim since 2007 and I'm getting burned really, really, really bad on a daily basis, 24-7.
	And their main objective seems to be they try to give you sleep deprivation so you can't sleep.
	And I've been in the hospital 11 times since I've been a targeted individual.
	And Derek and everybody, they know me.
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	I thought I was going to miss the podcast.
	But I was a legal investigator for 33 years.
	And I do believe We do have a commercial interrupting us right here.
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	Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we've got, the call lines are just mounting up and we've got a lot going on here.
	I-- I also have got a question that somebody is begging me to ask, so I'm gonna try to ask that also for a person who Actually, I don't know who they are, but let me see if I can get the right question here.
	It's kind of, okay.
	Was the gentleman that was a military cryptologist, was the gentleman that was military a cryptolinguist 98 X-ray?
	So that would be directed at Derek.
	Does that make sense, that question to you?
	No, I wasn't.
	Okay, so hopefully the person who asked the question is listening.
	Derek is saying he was not a cryptolinguist 98 x-ray.
	Is there some classification involved there that you're able to say you were or not?
	I was a CT, which is basically Communications Technician, and there are other similar types of classifications that deal with cryptology, but I wasn't in that particular area.
	Okay, very good.
	Now, we're going to, just so everyone knows, we are, by the way, the clip I tried to play has now been loaded onto my blog, so after the show, you guys, if you're interested, can listen to the preview of the interview that I was talking about that we just completed with Norm Berggrum regarding the Ringmakers of Saturn.
	So, let me see.
	We do have this caller on 949.
	Are you still with us, caller?
	Yes, I am.
	Okay, and you work with Derek, is that correct?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay.
	Was there a couple other comments you wanted to say?
	I didn't want to cut you off too shortly there before we move on, because we do have a lot of callers to move on to, but was there a couple other comments you wanted to make?
	Yes, I wanted to let everybody know that we're having a meeting Sunday in Los Angeles, in Torrance, actually, Torrance, California.
	And Richard King is going to be the speaker.
	And if anybody's in the area, if they would like to attend, there's a lot of support and they'll meet other targeted individuals there.
	And they can get the address off of the Freedom website.
	Okay, very good.
	Thank you very much for that caller.
	And I guess, did you want people to be able to contact you in any way?
	Sure, and I'm also on the website of Freedom from Covert Harassment.
	Okay, and your name again was?
	B.D.
	Hall.
	Okay, thank you very much, because you're allowed to do that since you're obviously part of the show in a loose kind of way.
	Thank you very much.
	I'm going to go on to another caller here.
	I did want to make a quick comment to the people that are talking about burning and microwaving and so on.
	One thing that you should be aware of is that high electronic zones uh which are you know in essence the matrix uh where you've got a lot of electronics going on in silicon valley is certainly uh you know classified as that and so is the los angeles area especially the the greater city area um you're gonna have be uh your skin and your what happens is your skin and the kundalini energy um
	and if you don't know what kundalini is it's uh it's it's well it's it's fairly involved but it developed it has to do with developing your light body and and uh activating that But basically what happens is electronics will target and will stimulate all of that energy.
	So some of the burning that is happening there may actually be stimulated Kundalini and you may also be very, very sensitive to the electronic haze that we're all a part of in the matrix and so that's what's happening to you and what i would suggest as a healing is for you to go into nature on a regular basis and try to get away from all power lines and that sort of thing
	and if you live near a power line or if you live with a lot of electronics around you in your in wiring in your apartment building etc uh You need to get away from that on a daily basis.
	Go to the ocean, whatever you can do in that regard.
	Okay, I'm going to bring on another caller here.
	Area Code 224, you are on the air with the Mind Control Panel.
	Area Code 224, are you there?
	Okay, so we've got enough callers.
	I've just got to move on here.
	If you are going to be calling in, please stay on the line so we can get you on the line here.
	Area code 512, you are on the line with the microphone.
	Hey, what's that?
	Don't be spraying that too heavily.
	Just a little.
	Hello?
	Area code 512, you are on the air.
	You've been doing this wrong.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	It's going to be less fun.
	That person is actually talking to their family on the background.
	That's not really helpful.
	Let's see.
	We've got another caller here.
	Anonymous, would you like to talk to the Mind Control Panel?
	Yeah.
	Hi, this is Vic Livingston.
	I'm not afraid to give my name.
	I'm a mainstream journalist.
	I've worked for major media and major markets, including Philadelphia, Detroit, St.
	Petersburg, and points beyond.
	I've worked in television and newspapers.
	And in December 2009, I published an article, which was the result of four years of electromagnetic assault, and I had to figure out what was happening to me.
	And it took me another three and a half years, but I figured it out.
	And the results of my work can be found at vicklivingston.blogspot.com.
	In summary, most of the electromagnetic assaults that are happening in this country emanate from the cell tower multifunctional scalar radio frequency directed energy weapon system.
	That is deployed everywhere in America and in most industrialized countries of the world, and even in some non-industrialized countries of the world.
	It incorporates both cell towers and GPS satellites.
	There is no escaping it.
	There is no shielding that is possible because this weapon system generates various forms of electromagnetic energy, including scalar wave electromagnetic energy, which are out-of-phase waves, Which, when triangulated on a target, can produce a variable amount of variable amplitudes of energy.
	Everything from a mild impairment, or a sting, or a bolt, or a piercing bolt, to awesome destruction that would make nuclear weapons look like child play.
	And the government is doing it.
	Hi, you're talking about a particle beam weapon type, electromagnetic, also EMP, what's called an EMP?
	Well, part of it is particle.
	Particle waves are involved, but these are really out-of-phase scalar waves.
	The weapon system is capable of particle waves, but it is not point-to-point.
	It is a triangulated system, just like a cell phone.
	Just the way a cell phone triangulates on any one of millions and billions of cell phones in the world, this weapon system can triangulate on any target.
	Now, implants are one way of targeting, but they're not necessary because this weapon system can use the coordinates of a cell phone.
	It can use an RFID chip that is illuminated.
	And the cell towers that you see everywhere incorporate a radar sweep beam, which actually can find these RFID type 3D laser targeting devices.
	Okay, thank you for that information.
	Would you like to ask a question of our panel, or would one of the panel members like to ask a question of the caller?
	Well, I'm familiar with... I've talked to Peter before, and I don't think I've ever talked to Derek, but I know Peter and I have conversed in the past.
	I must say that this is something of a first for me, because I've been under a full lid, as I say.
	You're talking to somebody who is a pedigree journalist, Columbia J School, major markets, newspapers and television stations.
	I worked for the Fox affiliate in Philadelphia.
	I was the business reporter.
	And I've been under a total full lid, and I've just got to say to Derek and to Peter that we must be making some progress, because this is the first time I've gotten through to anybody.
	And Alex Jones published one of my articles about three years ago before I figured the whole thing out.
	But since I figured the whole thing out, I have been a high-value target.
	They do not want Patent number 7629918, which is held by Raytheon, to make the mainstream media.
	But any journalist who reads 7629918 and puts it all together, as I did, can break this story.
	Like I say, this is not high-powered, it is not point-to-point microwave, it's a triangulated system, and there's no escaping it.
	I just wanted to say, this is Richard Cain, I agree with what he just said.
	- One of our guests, go right ahead.
	Thank you very much, caller.
	Go right ahead. - Yeah, I just wanted to say, this is Richard Cain.
	I agree with what he just said.
	In my case, I just happen to have x-rays, which brilliantly shows how the devices from beginning to end were placed in my body.
	And also the same with my two kids.
	My kids are six and four, and I've got an x-ray of my four-year-old when he was three, which was last year, and x-rays were discovered, you know, x-rays that we knew nothing about.
	So basically when we took him in for a cough or a cold, they were taking x-rays because they obviously knew what they put in his body at birth.
	Yeah, I am not, I'm not, I'm not discounting the possibility that people are implanted.
	What I'm saying is that implants are not necessary.
	They couldn't implant the entire population.
	This weapon system can actually entrain entire populations and cause people to be apathetic.
	And I'll tell you, I think that's what's happened to mainstream journalism.
	I think the best and the brightest have been called out.
	It's my conclusion that this program is Is headed up by major intelligence, military intelligence, CIA, Secret Service, and the journalists have been selectively targeted, and I'm one of them.
	Like I say, I've managed to figure it out, but I'm not discounting the possibility of implants.
	I do think that there's a certain degree of psy-op involved in spreading the falsehood that you have to be implanted To be impacted by these electromagnetic weapon systems.
	You don't have to be.
	In fact, entire populations are being irradiated.
	And I think it explains a lot of what's happening.
	I think it explains a lot of what's happening in this society.
	And like I say, I would urge people to please have an open mind.
	Go to vicklivingston.blogspot.com.
	Look on the right-hand column.
	There's a story entitled, U.S.
	Silently Tortures Americans with Cell Tower Microwave Weapon System.
	Read it.
	Read that story.
	Read the United States patents that it references, and come to your own conclusions.
	Yeah, you know, we have a weapons expert in microwaves, Dr. Barry Trower.
	He's put out a number of videos, and Ken Rhodes just sent, basically, a couple people up to interview him, and those interviews will be coming out.
	And he talks all about this.
	He talks about using the mind control to interrogate prisoners, about warfare with other countries, about activating plagues, Peter, as you and I have discussed, I know there are acoustic microwave weapons, but I'm telling you that this is a much more insidious weapon system than even Medusa and things like that.
	I'm not saying that Medusas don't exist, but you know all this talk about drones?
	You notice the entire media has gone drone crazy and you read about the drones and the drone list?
	Sure, there are drones.
	But it is my conclusion, based on a preponderance of evidence, that the main source of triangulated attack anywhere in the world isn't the drone itself, but this microwave grid which extends everywhere, and the drone is a convenient PSYOP.
	In other words, there are drones.
	The drones are used for surveillance.
	I'm not discounting The fact that there are drones.
	But what I'm telling you is that when you look up and you see all these cell towers every half mile, many more cell towers than you would ever need for any telephone, consumer telephone system, that's where these attacks are coming from.
	Vic, Dr. Trauer totally agrees with you that cell phones is the method of the attack.
	Watch the videos and you'll see him.
	He says that when he noticed what the Wi-Fi frequencies were, he noticed that they were the same ones that they were using in the Cold War.
	Well, Peter, it's not the cell phones.
	It's that this weapon system is co-located on cell towers.
	You know what the intelligence community says about hiding in plain sight?
	Derek knows what I'm talking about.
	That's where And they want everybody to think that drones are zapping people.
	You know, uh, use a cell phone, get hit by a drone.
	Isn't that what they say in the Middle East?
	Well, I appreciate all that, but you should also, I don't know how much you know about Project Camelot, but there's also a network of nano-satellites that are low-Earth orbiting nano-satellites.
	It is called Skynet.
	It's not just from a movie, it's real.
	And it is involved in this as well.
	So the surveillance and all of this stuff It's great to hear someone who's as active as you are and a mainstream journalist.
	That's a breath of fresh air, I've got to say.
	Feel free to stay in touch with us.
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	Okay, we were just talking, there's a couple statements that I guess it was Peter and Richard both wanted to make a few statements here about various things before we take some more calls, so go right ahead.
	Right, you know, I was trying to say, you know, there's a lot of reasons for being targeted.
	Some is testing, weapons testing.
	Some is political and social controls by taking people out of a workplace where that's critical.
	But in my case, I really think it was to make me a Manchurian terrorist.
	I had bought the materials to refill bullets and I believe I was being attacked so badly that I would try to lash back at my attackers, and I'll be honest, if I had, they would have been low-level operatives and really wouldn't have known what the whole scheme of the things were.
	So, you know, we have to have restraint.
	We have to be as strong as we can, figure out what's going on, and expose this is what we have to do.
	I'll let Richard go on from here.
	Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, based on everything I've gathered to date, when you look at the CT scans and you look at the x-rays, the amount of implant leads and wires going through my body, the only thing I could think of, and luckily I'm just a really, I'm a really little mellow guy, so it would take a whole bunch to get me excited enough to harm somebody or hurt someone, but I can tell you when I had emergencies and service vehicles following me everywhere when this started with me,
	And everywhere I traveled, an ambulance would show up, or a fire truck, you know, that type of thing.
	And I'm looking like, I haven't hurt anybody, would never hurt anybody, but I believe that this whole thing from start to the ending of it was about some type of attempted programming of me to fail.
	And you know, I was just seeing something on the website that talked about certain type of people cannot be mind-controlled.
	I don't know.
	I saw it on the website.
	That's exactly right.
	That's exactly right.
	I believe that's what happened to me.
	Because when you look at the stuff that's going through my body, they were trying to do something.
	And when they towed my car that day, I think now when I look back on it, they were trying to elicit Some type of negative response out of me, you know, when my family members would leave my house, they would pull them over like within minutes, knowing, you know, we all love our family.
	How dare you do that?
	Then also knowing that I know the law.
	So I'm curious.
	I know the law.
	I'm going to go out there.
	And I think at the same time, while I was out there, they're, you know, pushing the buttons, trying to make my blood pressure go up or whatever it is.
	But I believe there was some type of failed attempt.
	And I think they, for a fact, thought they had a kill switch, which you can see in my x-rays.
	But luckily, I figured it all out and I wear shielding to protect those areas until I can get the devices removed.
	But I believe I was some type of test experiment.
	I've written that to the Attorney General's office and to the California Attorney General's office and to the Santa Barbara District Attorney's office.
	It was some type of failed experiment.
	And of course, law enforcement has no idea what's going on.
	All they know is somebody's telling them, follow that guy.
	And I believe their experiment failed.
	And I'm one of few people that you can see the x-rays from start to finish.
	That 2008 x-ray is basically what they laid in the body.
	And by 2012, you can see the little antennas, or what everybody's calling them, have closed up now.
	And they're kind of a little closer together, but it's all Absolutely.
	Very, very valid statements from both of you guys.
	It didn't work, and now I'm on a mission to help others and get this stuff out of my body.
	Okay, Carrie, can I say something real quick?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Very, very valid statements from both of you guys.
	Go right ahead, Derek.
	Okay.
	Basically, what we want to emphasize here, what we're trying to convey to the audience is that there are agencies in our government that are spying on people, that these mind-control weapon systems have been deployed among the population. that these mind-control weapon systems have been deployed among the
	And that if you are feeling pains that are unexplained in your body, if you are hearing voices through your mind that are not your own, that it does not necessarily mean that you are crazy, but that these weapon systems are designed to drive certain people to feel that they're crazy, to act out in non-social ways.
	There are a number of, say, the school shooters, for instance, and serial shooters who report that they are hearing voices, that they are told to shoot certain people, that they are told to chop up people and commit heinous murders and that kind of thing.
	All these people are hearing voices, and we want to alert people that these are not necessarily the voices of God that you are hearing, but this technology You know?
	Yeah.
	Just like an understatement.
	Hello?
	You know, but this is a very important warning because that's what people think.
	That they are hearing the voice of God.
	That God told me to do this so that they're killing people and they're shooting people and they're attacking people.
	So I want to let people know this is a very important message that this is technology that's being used.
	It's being deployed.
	And it's nationwide.
	It's worldwide.
	It's happening to thousands, millions of people.
	And it's very destructive.
	And that we need to find some way to get the community involved in this, to get all of this exposed and somehow ban it.
	You know, stop somehow.
	Right.
	And thank you, Derek.
	Very well said.
	This is MKUltra at work, and MKUltra is now part of the public domain.
	That information, when it was put into effect in the population back in the 60s, and as a matter of fact, even before that.
	At this point, what I'd like to do is take one or two calls.
	We've only got a few minutes left in the show altogether, but Thank you, guys, for all of that.
	Area Code 303, you're on the air with the Mind Control Panel.
	Hi, my name is Renee, and I want to say thank you, Keri, thank you, Derek, thank you, Rick, and thank you, Peter.
	I'm calling in support, speaking the truth of a very important issue.
	I thought what Derek just said was very elegant.
	I really appreciate what you just said, Keri, in regards to this is MKUltra.
	They have secretly been, you know, victimizing people and researching this for many, many, many years.
	And it's sad that nothing's ever been done.
	And we're at the place we're at right now.
	Absolutely.
	Did you want to ask one of the speakers a question at all, or was that what you wanted to say?
	That is what I wanted to say, and I'm also a member of Freedom From covert harassment to balance.
	And I think it's very important that Derek keeps up his work because so many of us found relief by funding the website and learning more.
	And, you know, again, I just really do want to emphasize the MKUltra aspect of this because, you know, we know the history and they organized, you know, committees to investigate it And it's just like everything else, and just continues where an investigation is not done.
	And it just goes further underground.
	Yeah, you're absolutely right, Renee.
	You're absolutely right.
	Also that there are MKUltra survivors from the 60s and 70s that are targeted today by what everyone's speaking about currently.
	And again, the MKUltra is relevant to what is happening today.
	It just never stopped.
	And this is how bad it has gotten out of control.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Very good.
	Very good point.
	I'm going to move on to the next caller.
	We've got very limited time here, but thank you so much.
	Sure thing.
	Bye.
	Okay.
	Let's see, we've got area code 347.
	You're on the air with the mind control panel.
	Hi, Carrie and everyone on the show tonight.
	Thank you for putting this on.
	I'll just get into real quickly.
	So just an experience that happened to me just wanted to get, you know, some feedback on what you think if it's in line with other experiences you've been exposed to.
	Well, I created a Facebook group several years ago discussing many of the topics that the American Freedom Radio audience is in tune with.
	Thousands of people joined, and then suddenly one day while I'm on the bike path, next thing I know, I'm on the floor.
	I crashed on a completely flat bike path, which is, you know, there's no reason why I would have an accident, and I'm a seasoned bike rider, so totally confused how it happened.
	Suddenly this guy comes up to me and I said, Hey, I noticed that you had a pretty nasty fall back there.
	And then, long story short, he suggests that I have an implant that I've been chipped and that I'm being targeted with what he called sorcery to knock me out.
	And I mean, this completely, you gotta understand, I mean, just pretty winded and get up and then this guy comes up to me.
	It was really bizarre.
	And you know, I just thought it was very strange and eerie and then also my Facebook group also had gotten hacked and infiltrated and I think it was just an attempt to stop me out while I was still growing before the group got too big.
	And then I also started to notice even results that I was getting in Google searches.
	They looked hampered and you know I'd come across You know, what it seemed like artificially generated forms and groups where traces of conversations I've had on the phone were mentioned and my name was mentioned, and it all felt so eerie and scripted, even though it was supposed to be organic Google search results.
	So I started testing the search results.
	Just by typing random strings of characters to see what would happen.
	Okay, we're actually at the end of the show.
	I'm sorry.
	Thank you, Caller, very much for that.
	I'm going to have to let you go here.
	And I appreciate it.
	You guys, during the music right here, you could just say a last few parting words, if you don't mind, to the audience.
	Give them your website, if you don't mind.
	Okay, our website is freedomfchs.com.
	Okay, thank you.
	Go right ahead.
	I think Kerry put up my Flickr site, which shows implants, billboards that we've put up, and shielding.
	Yes, that was posted to the chat, and people will be able to listen to this as you can put it on your websites, this whole show, and thank you so much everyone for coming on.
	We'll try to do this again in the future.
	Okay, bye-bye.
	Thank you, Kerry.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Kerry.
	Thank you, Karen.
	Thank you.
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