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May 16, 2012 - Project Camelot
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05/16/2012 - Rebecca Jernigan
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There is a Jaguar outside my door Dressed out in a hurry
Waiting for more It's dream she's done Kata, Gary Cassidy, Project Camelot Whistleblower Radio, and very happy to be here tonight.
Although I can't guarantee that all of me is here.
Something very weird going on.
And I was sharing with Rebecca right before the show came live that I actually, well, I just couldn't wake up the whole day.
So I'm really working hard on it.
I am now drinking tea with Ginkgo, Bibbolo, or however you say that in it.
That's supposed to wake your brain up.
So I'm hoping that's going to help.
We've got Rebecca Jernigan who is a wonderful radio show host, many more years experience doing this than me, and a great friend of Camelot and she is also a psychic and does readings for people and All sorts of things.
So actually, I'm going to let Rebecca introduce herself in more detail after just a moment here.
I first want to make a few announcements.
First of all, if you're listening and you want to go to our chat room, then go to the front page of Camelot.
And there is a link now on the front page at the Radio Show Next Guest at the bottom there for the live chat.
So you can go there and then you just go ahead and you don't even have to sign in.
You just start talking and start typing.
I think it gives you some name or asks you if you want to name yourself.
Anyway, so that's what's happening with the chat, and we will also take calls sometime in the second hour, so that would be great.
And I just want to say that if you haven't been to our new website and you haven't looked around, it's actually pretty cool.
And my blog is now on the front page if you scroll down.
And there's a radio show I just did with Dave and Messi or Mecky.
I'm not sure.
They could probably kill me because I can't pronounce his name.
But anyway, he's a charming guy.
And they have a radio show on Revolution called Shiny Side Out.
I was interviewed for several hours there.
And so you can hear me waxing eloquent about all sorts of different matters.
And that should be interesting for some.
And then we had a huge audience on that one.
And let's see what else.
Oh, Mount Shasta.
I'm going to be in Mount Shasta.
Hopefully all of me is going to arrive there at the same time, but no guarantees.
On the 18th of May, which is Friday.
So I'll be rolling in late afternoon up at Malchasta and then spending a couple of days there for the solar eclipse, doing a speaking engagement with Sean David Morton and many others, and possibly catching an interview or two if circumstances permit.
And what else?
Oh, I've got this Egypt trip that we're trying to get that all together and pretty soon we're going to have the registration page all ready to go.
Tommy has been working on this diligently, although I don't think it's quite linked up yet.
But the page with all the different fascinating places we're going to go is there.
I've been to Egypt several times and I highly recommend it.
Obviously, we're going to be taking the cat by the tail, so to speak.
Like a tiger by the tail?
I don't know what you want to say.
But and going there for the 21st of 2012.
Assuming that even if the world were to end on that day, that would be as good a place as any to do it.
But of course, it's not going to end and it's just going to be a new beginning and it's going to be hopefully some good energy coming in.
And we're going to make sure because we're going to lend our energy to the mix in a place that has a lot of mixed Kind of intelligence is monitoring it and moving around there and messing with it on all levels.
So it's not for the faint of heart, I have to say, this trip.
And we're also going to be going on a journey and Rebecca is one of our speakers.
We've got Hugh Newman, Michael Tellinger, Miriam Delicato, myself and Rebecca Jernigan.
So already this is going to be quite the lineup.
A very interesting combination of energies to go in there and sort of, well, just meditate, wake the place up, I guess you might say.
Aside from that, I've got a new interview I just want to draw your attention to on the front page of Camelot under latest release.
If you scroll down halfway down the page, you'll see it under the radio show stuff.
And it says, Romanian Crackdown on Yoga and Consciousness, and it's a really fascinating discussion that ended up to also be about a discovery in Romania that was actually found several years ago, probably, well, I think maybe originally even 1999, but some people are saying 2003, so it's kind of mixed information, I think.
At any rate, I interviewed these people from the yoga sector because they're being oppressed by the government and told that it's against the law to practice yoga of all things and higher mind and pursuit of remote viewing and so on and so forth because the government is ultra paranoid about people that are getting us sort of Augmenting their powers and this is going around on around the globe.
It's not just Romania and the dumbing down of the population has been Obviously going on for a while, but they've been escalating it lately and there's a purpose behind that madness because we are accessing higher energies on a daily basis, which is part of the reason why I cannot possibly come down to earth today and
But with all that introduction, let me turn this over to Rebecca Jernigan, who's a fabulous individual and a great friend of mine.
Rebecca?
Hello, Carrie.
Nice to be here.
Well, very nice to have you on my show again.
And you've saved my life, actually, a number of times in the past.
And this is an official scheduled show.
Instead of calling you in the sort of, I don't know, last minute to beg you to come on because my guest disappeared somehow or some way, this was actually scheduled way ahead of time, which is so unusual.
And of course, your life is going into, well, the most strangest permutations, you might say, and some very exciting turns.
Sure, sure.
Thank you very much, Carrie.
You're always so kind.
I so appreciate it.
I really do.
Well, let's see.
Where do I start?
First of all, I guess I'm going to start, Carrie, with more of an introduction.
You know, for those of you who know me, I do a radio show and I have for 12 years called Journeys with Rebecca.
I have interviewed some of the most fantastic guests.
I mean, seriously, people such as Dr. Edgar Mitchell and Michael Tellinger, Michael Desarian, David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, yourself, Carrie, Rich Dolan, Stuart Swerdlow.
I mean, the list goes on and on and on.
A lot of people stepping into higher consciousness.
My theme for the last probably six months has been to bring on people who are talking about this consciousness raising with the vibrational and frequency changes and if you notice that you know everything trends in a sense, Gary.
We didn't talk so much about the terms.
We didn't use the terms like frequency or vibratory medicines or vibrations as much say four years ago as it's as it is now it seems to be like that is you know the new keywords the catchphrases whatever you want to call them so you know everything trends based on you know what's going on literally out in our universe in this in this dimension as well as you know some of the other dimensions and I think we'll get into that a little bit later
and but getting back to my radio show it's that's part of what I've been doing and Prior to that, back in the 90s, I traveled all across the United States.
I was a speaker.
I've taught classes.
I've created my own classes.
I've taught meditation, psychic abilities.
I've helped people to become aware of them.
I teach people how to communicate with their higher selves or their spirit guides, whatever you want to call that.
So there's been a lot of the work that I've done and I've been doing it since actually the late 80s into the early 90s.
I've done television.
I had my own television show.
It was a local television show called Psychic Impressions and I was a co-host with a gentleman that had been on air for 13 years doing psychic voyages.
And we used to do live readings on the air, also interviewed people.
I was the first one to do interviews on his show.
He didn't even do them, I did them.
And back in those days, it was people like Betty Eadie that was just coming out.
So, you know, it's been a long journey, not a negative one.
I look back and it's really been 25 years.
Where did the time go, right?
So I've kind of been on this path most of my life.
And I woke up the other day, and this is what I said, and I said, I'm on a mission.
I don't know what the mission is, but I'm on it.
I'm going for it.
I don't know what it is, but I'm going for it.
You know, it's just like, It's just been fascinating.
I'd like to talk a little bit about what I consider dream time activity.
I'd like to talk a little bit about the frequency shifts, things like that, what people are experiencing.
It's all just, it's an extremely large topic, as you well know.
I mean, we can run down so many rabbit holes with it, it's not even funny.
You kind of get lost out there in that infinite field of consciousness, right?
And having to learn how to figure out how to bring it back.
So that's a little bit about me, I guess.
You wanted me to introduce myself and my radio show and I hope everyone tunes in.
I'm actually on Monday through Fridays on Revolution Radio.
And it's also simulcast on Wolf Spirit Radio.
And they're changing the schedule, so I don't really know what I'm going to be doing next week.
Okay, so you don't know when you're on?
That next week.
He changed the schedule on me.
And so, you know, here's the funny thing, though, you know, I think, you know, you said I'm I'm doing some, you know, something that's very, very strange right now.
And this is this is why I haven't even been keeping up with my own life.
I'm I'm literally.
I think I need an assistant to keep up with my personal self.
I don't know how to do that.
Anyway, I'm actually in the process, and I knew this a little over a year ago, and it took me a year to transition to actually make the decision to do what I'm undergoing right now, which is I'm literally in the middle of selling every single thing that I own with very few exceptions.
Bringing it down to things like personal items of clothing and, you know, computer stuff.
A few little mementos that are being stored in a cedar chest.
And that's just pretty much it.
And I am simply letting go of what they have told me is an identity and what being anchored really means.
And being anchored is I live at 123 Annie Street, USA.
I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother, I'm known as Rebecca Jernigan, but there's more to the identity than just the labels that we carry.
There's more to a person's existence than just living in the same house all the time.
What I'm doing, obviously, Doesn't necessarily resonate with everyone.
But I do know, Carrie, that after I went public with this information, I have had literally dozens of people come out of the woodwork and say, oh, my God, I'm doing the same thing that gets into that whole trending thing.
You know, some people are are responding to that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I can say that I am as well.
About a year ago, I got rid of a bunch of stuff and moved from another place to the place I'm in now.
And so I sort of lightened my load at that point.
And in fact, so much so that I I had to get a couple things just in order to live on.
No, I got rid of my bed and so then I had to, you know, get a futon type thing because that was going to be my temporary thing.
So anyway, yeah, I have had those same kind of feelings.
I felt desperately like I have to get rid of stuff and be ready to move at any moment.
I'm kind of a little bit different in that you're doing it a little more proactively, whereas I am getting rid of stuff and planning, you know, and pacing myself and so on and so forth, but lightening the load the whole time.
And I think it's really a good feeling, I have to say.
And I actually I have more to do.
I'm going to be doing some more in the next A couple, a week or two.
Just because, you know, it's crazy.
And what I keep is books.
I have lots of books.
And I've gotten rid of tons of books.
I've taken them to libraries and given them to free stuff.
Free places and to friends of mine and so on and so forth.
And it's hard to get rid of them.
But, you know, they're the heaviest thing and you gotta do it.
So that's part of the thing.
Getting rid of furniture, of course, is another thing.
Yeah, I think there's some kind of weird time going on with that relates to all of this.
And maybe it's also because I'm Camelot that I feel sort of, you know, that things are shifting so quickly that I need to be sort of fast on my feet kind of thing.
So I'm doing that as well, but not quite in the kind of down a dirty way that you're doing it, which you're about to close everything down like tomorrow or something, right?
Well, Sunday will be my last day.
I'm actually having a what I call it is my living estate sale.
And so I'm, you know, it's nobody's passed.
It takes people a few minutes to catch that.
Yes.
Yeah.
So it's my living estate sale.
So it's Down to my paperclips, right?
You know, down to the paperclips is going.
Everything's going.
And, you know, for me, Carrie, it was it was like I woke up, like I said, it was a year in the process.
I heard this over a year ago.
And, you know, I, you know, kept downsizing, you know, a little here and a little there.
But then it was one day I woke up and I was like, today is the day.
This is when I make the decision.
It wasn't an easy decision to make.
But as soon as I had made the decision and let it kind of sit there and percolate for a little bit, there was a huge amount of relief knowing that whatever direction this is leading me into, it's absolutely perfect for me.
And I know that there's more to what I call my mission And the vision, the dream state, if you will, has been super kicked in in the last week since this time is growing nearer for me to literally be at the point of just being able to go where I need to go.
I am going to be, one of my first places is to go is down into Ecuador and then Peru.
Obviously, I'll be joining you in Egypt.
And I'm looking forward to that.
I truly am.
I'm looking forward to that.
I've been talking to people about it since you and I talked about it.
And I have four or five people already that are really trying to make this thing happen because there's something spectacular happening and it's happening now.
We don't need to wait for the whole, you know, December 21st, 2012.
It happened.
That's just kind of a marker dwelling in the celestial sky.
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Uh...
Rebecca, are you there?
Yes.
Okay.
So, it's just really having a bizarre time here, I have to say.
I don't know if it's just me, but I, you know, I just think that today has been, the energetics today have just been really wild outside the box.
And it's kind of like walking on clouds or something.
I don't know how to explain it.
It's like between worlds, man.
It's like you don't really belong and yet you don't not belong.
Yeah, and it's just...
Wow, touching down takes a fair amount of effort here.
And, you know, making that earthly connection.
But you're the perfect person to have on the other end of the line here tonight because you definitely tap into all of it.
And so that's very Very relaxing and very refreshing and great.
So, right before the break, which came kind of unexpectedly, and you were just going on.
Yeah, I couldn't hear anything.
I'm so sorry.
No problem, but I think we might have missed some of your pertinent comments.
So, let's just back up to where you were talking about how you basically got this message to leave and to move on and go out there and sort of change your life.
And so you're doing this and tomorrow's, I think, the big day, right?
No, Friday.
It starts Friday.
It's going to be a three-day sale and I'll be done with everything by Sunday evening, which I think that's really interesting when you look at the dates.
I didn't actually plan it that way.
It just, I actually did this past week and it didn't happen.
And so I was like, okay, well, I'll just move it to the next week.
It's all good.
You know, and I wasn't even really thinking about the date.
And then I looked up and I was like, oh, here we go.
Interesting time to be doing this.
Cosmologically, astrologically, and I'm not an astrologer, I want to make that very clear, but I do understand that the very mystical levels of astrology are very, very pertinent in these times.
And they're very, as you would say, apropos.
They, you know, for those that don't, I'm not talking about the newspaper astrology either, you know, you understand, right?
So, you know, energetically, cosmically, multidimensionally, it's just, you know, it was like, you know, it didn't go unnoticed by me either, Carrie, but, you know, when all of this is transpiring, I was like, wow, this is really about stepping into a brand new way of being.
Yeah, absolutely.
So it's fascinating when you stop and think about it, that that's what this is about.
It's a new way of being.
Well, let's actually talk a little bit about the astrology, though, because that's pertinent to this weekend.
And obviously, we have a solar eclipse coming up.
And there's also, I don't know, the Venus transit.
Well, it's coming around.
I'm not sure what, you know... Keep talking and hear me.
Okay, can you hear me okay here?
Now I can, but the call does keep dropping every once in a while.
It'll say we're trying to get the call back.
So I don't know if you can hear me when that happens or not.
It's been doing that since the beginning.
Okay, that's interesting.
It's just a weird day.
Yeah, it is a weird day.
Well, do you have a phone number that you can type into the chat with American Freedom Radio?
Oh, you've gone again, so I can't hear you again.
Okay, do you have a phone number?
How about your phone?
Would that work, Rebecca?
Yeah, I have nothing but silence on this end.
I hear nothing at all from anyone.
Okay, can you type your phone number, Rebecca?
Okay, I think, hello?
I guess we've lost her.
What we'd like to do is get her phone number so we can call her.
Let me see if I can find it on my phone here.
Wow.
So, yeah, I don't know what to do exactly because I guess we've lost her.
So we've got to try to get her back.
I'm not sure if we're...
If everyone can hear me, I assume you can.
So this is one of those kind of wild and crazy things.
I'm not sure why they would be interrupting this show because we haven't even started talking about anything crazy.
Although, believe me, I'm willing to get to some crazy stuff if given half the chance, and I'm sure she is as well.
But this is kind of before the fact kind of type of thing.
So that's kind of interesting.
And I don't know if my show engineer even knows that she is gone.
And so I'm giving him a phone number to try to reach her on.
That's, I believe, a cell phone, unfortunately, and she may have a landline that she would rather we call.
And so I'm going to see if that's going to be possible, too, because cell phones are kind of a problem.
So we're going to dial her back.
Meanwhile, I just want to say that I will be in Mount Shasta this weekend again doing a speaking event with Sean David Morton and several others.
If you're interested, it's on the front page of Camelot.
Just scroll down to the right-hand column.
You'll see a little Add there that you can click on and go register.
I imagine they still have room.
I don't know how much room because I know they were getting pretty inundated up there.
It's going to be a fun weekend.
I think it should be very, very interesting, energetically speaking.
And, you know, so I encourage you to come if you are listening and you're interested in doing that.
Now, if we don't have her that online, I don't know what's going on as far as her phone.
Let me just... Hello?
Hi, Rebecca?
Yes, can you hear me now?
Yeah!
This is wild and crazy.
I can't believe that this is going on.
Well, secrets are something we were talking about.
That's what's amazing.
Okay, did they call you back on Skype or are you on phone?
I'm on a phone.
You're on a phone?
Okay, well, you just broke up... Unfortunately, it's a cell phone.
Okay, do you have a... Can you type your... Can you go on to Skype and try typing your phone number for a landline for them?
I do not have a landline here.
I am not in my office.
Yeah, I see.
Sorry.
Okay, well then we're kind of stuck with that situation unless you want to try to get back on Skype at the same time and see how that works for you.
But we can try to continue with your cell phone if you don't mind, if you can, if it's going to be all right for you.
It's going to be fine as long as you can hear me well enough from it.
Okay, so far you sound fine.
Well then we're good.
Okay, so with that in mind, we haven't even started to broach any dicey subjects, but what I was saying was if we could talk about the actual astrology that's happening this weekend so people can just focus a little bit on that and also the solar eclipse and what that might bring along with it.
Well, you know, I have a lady that comes on my show quite regularly, her name is Nancy Ogren, and she actually shows up at least a couple of times a month.
She has been studying astrology and is very good at the, you know, like the mysteries, the mystique, the mysticism, the spirituality behind it, the energy, if you will.
Not just about, you're born on this date and this is what your characteristics are.
She's a very deep and profound astrologer.
And she was on, we did a pre-recorded show last week and that will be aired, by the way, on Friday on Revolution Radio for anyone that wants to tune in and get some real heavy, heavy pieces of information about what's coming up over the weekend.
And then for the solar eclipse.
But because of where the planetary lineups are, and I don't remember exactly, so again, I'm not the astrologer, so I don't use the right terminology necessarily, but the whole idea behind it is that this is about, from, like, we have, I can't remember how many she said, we have, we go from, we had a lunar eclipse, then we have a solar eclipse, and then another lunar eclipse, and then another solar eclipse,
And another lunar eclipse all before the end of this year, as well as what's called five super moons.
You know, just a few weeks ago we had that full moon, where the moon was closest to the Earth.
We have five of them, and the first one just being the one just a couple of weeks ago.
So, you talk about some transforming energy.
You talk about some heavy-hitting energy.
Venus is the planet this year.
That is up front and center.
And of course, Venus being the planet all about love and the feminine and the divine feminine, there's a huge transformation taking place all out in the solar system.
And what happens out there also affects us here, and what we do here also affects the entire solar system.
I mean, it's a two-way street.
And what we have is this transforming energy we have, and literally the ability of a new paradigm shift.
We also have some lineups that are very similar to some revolutions that have taken place here in America, specifically in the United States, that are trending as well during the rest of this year.
Kerry, this is important for people because they were huge milestone markers, but because we have different energies supporting them other than just
You know, the lineup of the revolution, right, of whatever it was about, we also have supporting energies that allow us to take it from a negative aspect into a positive aspect, where the outcome of it has a whole different potential of happening.
And it's supported for a different outcome.
That's what's the amazing thing, is that there's a different support mechanism out there.
People that come on to your show and the people that you talk with, you and I, we talk to people all the time and they say, the energy out there in our daily lives is almost tangible, where you can just feel and touch it, you can almost, you know, mold it in your hands, so to speak, because the energy, they're so prevalent.
Even people that don't, aren't metaphysical or Or anything like that.
They're using this terminology where the energy of that person feels strange to me or something, you know?
And these are just what you would call regular people that aren't mystical or whatever, right?
Right.
Absolutely.
That's what's happening.
Yeah, I mean we're at a very interesting juncture and I think that you're quite right that the energy is tangible in other words and the differences in various energies even as you go through a day or a week.
And and and sort of great each day and basically I think when at least the way I feel is that waking up every morning I've got no idea what I'm going to encounter that day be it positive or negative and and and what sort of happens is the more flexible you are the more malleable and the more you sort of Greed it with sort of a sense of wonder and acceptance.
I think on a certain level, it allows the day to happen where instead of sort of banging your head against a wall, because otherwise there are some people that are going to find these times extremely challenging, if your sort of normal approach is to kind of take the bull by the horns and wrench it one way or another.
Right.
Exactly.
The way that you may do something, you know, in kind of the same process that you might have done before, but there's going to be a couple of things that people will notice that will be different.
First of all, their perception of maybe kind of routine behavior or, you know, their understanding of behavior of their own self, of their own actions.
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And the second thing is that they're also going to be more perceptive of other people's actions.
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So that's also been a huge indicator of the major shift that's also been going on as well.
I find that real fascinating.
I really do.
Yeah, but we have also talked about how people, certain people in certain groups, are being very, very sort of, not only targeted, but stimulated at this time, be it negatively or positively, to sort of react strongly.
And I'm finding that really, really fascinating as almost an observer.
I find myself observing People's actions much more so this year than ever before and being not sort of being sucked into it, which is really interesting.
You know, and it's actually a better place to be as well as to be is to is to sit back and watch how things unfold because in in watching the unfoldment of the behavior You can, you can see where, oh, I think I hear music.
Yeah, now we are having a break, so we'll be right back with Rebecca Jernigan.
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And we are talking to Rebecca Jernigan about, well, the shifting energies and what we're going through at this time.
And Rebecca, right before the break, I think you were talking about, well, the astrology that we're encountering on this weekend, actually, where we're kind of covering that, and also the Venus transit, the Divine Feminine, all of that.
So, is there anything else you wanted to add to that before we kind of move into other subjects?
Well, no.
Only a little bit.
Here's what I would like people to know is that, sincerely, that the energies truly are supporting anybody's choices at this time.
It doesn't matter what the choices are, right?
The energies are going to support you in whatever way that you put your foot out there.
You know, it's like one of those times, Carrie, it's like, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it, right?
So you have to be very, very cognizant of these high energetic times, because it has the ability, people have the ability for instant manifestation, so be careful what you're actually wanting to draw into your life.
Be very careful and conscious of what your thoughts, your actions are.
What is your intent?
Are you heart-centered or not?
And just being cognizant of other people's behaviors, kind of like you and I have been talking about here.
We've both said it.
Being in observation mode is really a very safe place, and I don't mean to make it sound like it's unsafe to be any other way, but it's a safe place to be if you are in that space For your own growth, for your own orientation, for your own greater understanding.
Because there's a lot of people that aren't.
There's a lot of people that aren't going to, you know, be awakened, for lack of a better way of saying that, Carrie, and that's okay.
I mean, we all have our missions here, we all have our purpose here, and we all belong here, no matter how we're characteristically showing that, right?
Right, absolutely.
Yeah, I think I would like to maybe wrap it up with that as far as the astrological thing, but again, I do have a really wonderful guest on on Friday.
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Her name is Nancy Ogren, and she's going to give an extremely in-depth view of what's coming up over the next four or five days for people That would like to tune into that and you can log on to my website which journeyswithrebecca.com and then I'll have all the links right there where to go and listen to the show.
Great, that's just great.
And so at this point, what I wanted to actually do was turn it over to a little bit different angle on what we're going through here and talk about some of the past, I don't know, maybe five, six months that you've been experiencing.
I know that your life has been rather tumultuous and I'm thinking that perhaps that might be true of a lot of people out there, you know, who can identify.
And maybe even sharing some of the ways that you've been dealing with some things.
And it's really interesting because tradition, you know, there's an interesting, well,
Again astrologically because Capricorn is very heavily aspected right now and on top of it so is Uranus and and Pluto and so what we have are and then Mars only just recently went direct and so we have we're building towards something and there is also a lot of information coming at least at Camelot about a possible
And I'm wondering if you're hearing anything at your end and what, if anything, and so if you can cover some of that from your perspective, that would be great.
Well, let's start out with the traditional statement that you made, because that, I think, is probably the most underlying kind of hidden.
It appears hidden.
If somebody was just to be viewing my life, it would A peer of what I'm doing is very non-traditional, which in fact it is.
You know, I was given the information that identifiers, and again getting back to the point that I am a mother and I'm a grandmother, I'm a talk radio show host, I think you introduced me as a psychic, but those are literally different compartments of the same person, right, of the whole of who I am.
And I'm even more than all of that.
Like, everyone is more than the identifier, right?
But we don't know exactly all the depths and levels and the meanings of that because we haven't arrived there yet.
So we haven't been introduced to all of those different compartments, which are really, some of them are roles that we play.
Some of them are the skills or talents that we are.
Like, you can call somebody an artist.
You can call somebody a singer.
Those are skills or talents.
A creative force.
So, I was given this information that I needed to let go of the compartment that's segregating the parts of the whole, the whole of who I am.
And in that is the idea of letting go of where I live, my home, and letting go of an address, Simply going where I feel like I am being led, if you will.
Not forced, but an opening.
It feels like I'm on my path, whatever that may mean.
And in that becomes a break in tradition.
And it's kind of like that the world that's being created, Kerry, in a way, is letting go of the old paradigm tradition Because those traditions aren't going to fit in the same way that we understand them now.
So by letting go of everything that I've ever owned, it's all that material stuff, and it is just that, just stuff, right?
And, you know, I thought about it, and I thought, well, gosh, you know, if I just, you know, travel around for the next year or two years, and I decide I'm going to, you know, find a location where I'm going to call my quote-unquote home again, You know, people are willing to give you their stuff because they have too much, right?
I'm not concerned about the stuff, right?
This is nothing.
It is about the journey itself, and for me, it's so deeply entrenched in me that I am arriving at a place that I knew from a young woman that I was supposed to be in a direction, and that really
Over the last six months or so, I feel like that I have finally stepped fully and completely, and with this next portion of my life, onto that role or that mission.
And, Terry, I don't even know what the hell it is specifically.
All I know, and this kind of leads in now to your thing that you're talking about, the big event, right?
All I can tell you is that I was given a very, very predominant dream Night vision, that I was kept in a night vision on this past Saturday night, all night long, and I call it the repeater dream, the repeater thing.
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And so all night long, for six to eight hours, I was in this space of just repeating this whole dream cycle, this whole vision.
And there were several people that I was supposed to contact, and I have done that.
I've contacted them.
You were part of this message, and I'm just the messenger, and here are the pieces that I'm giving you.
So, I'll give it to you kind of in a nutshell.
You've probably heard the story about the 144,000, yes?
Sure.
Okay.
Well, the thing is that we all have this perspective of what the 144,000 is.
Even I had a perspective of what the 144,000 was.
is that we all have this perspective of what the 144,000 is.
Even I had a perspective of what the 144,000 was.
Well, the 144,000, now what that represents in our time frame is those that are kind of the anchoring of the energy is the shift, and this is what the whole 2012 thing is about, right?
The shift.
It's time for them to wake up.
The 144,000, it's time to wake up.
So here's what they said.
This is what part of my dream cycle was on Saturday night.
They said, now you know, not all of the 144,000 are going to be willing to wake up.
So, what we have done is we have allowed for what you would call a factory overrun and have supplied an extra 10 to 20% on to that $144,000 to be sure that the goal would be met.
Uh-huh.
Very good.
Yeah.
So, it was actually kind of funny.
My guides are actually very, very funny.
They really do have this wonderful sense of humor when they're not being really stern with me.
I really enjoyed that.
So I'm like, okay, so this is about the $144,000.
Now, you've known me for quite a few years.
I don't think we've ever had a conversation about the $144,000.
It's just not one of those things that, you know, has been first and foremost.
But what I've come to understand is that there's some major significance with this $144,000.
Do I yet know what it is?
Not in a way that I can verbalize, but somewhere in the soul or spirit of who I am, I feel that there's something to that story that's bigger than I yet really can ascertain from the perspective that I have.
Actually, let me address that because this interview that I just did recently that I mentioned in the beginning of the show with the oppression of the yoga practitioners in Romania.
Well, okay, we've got a break and we'll come right back and then we'll get into all of that.
Okay, thank you.
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Right before the break, I was about to talk about, just in relation to what you were talking about, the 144,000, the nature of sort of the interview where I talk about the crackdown on yoga and consciousness, and why that is something that's going on around the globe at this time.
In in sort of like a renewed effort apparently back in the early days of communism there was a crackdown and then there was a bit of an easing up as Romania and other countries like that went into sort of a mode in which they took on the Democratic sort of model, but in reality didn't kind of believe in the real principles of that.
So they kind of gave lip service to a certain permissiveness, knowing that then sort of pushing disinfo and so on, as they do in Western governments, is a way of corralling the people and keeping them under their thumb.
Now they've decided, I guess, in places like Romania and a few others that we talk about on that interview, that keeping the people down, using the democratic sort of, I guess you might say, the soft, what is even called in Illuminati circles, a velvet glove, and it's sort of
You know, they corral you by deceiving you into sort of a placid state of mind by numbing you with, you know, so-called entertainment, certain kinds of entertainment and other things like sports, etc, etc.
So what we're talking about here is the 144,000 that were sort of a a cutting edge of a requirement that needed to happen for consciousness on the planet to make the shift, most probably.
And what we are probably also talking about is the fact that there is, as they said, well, at least your guides were sort of alluding to the idea, is that there may be some new recruits in there.
And I wondered if you kind of tapped into that as well.
The idea, I'm noticing, I'm just noticing a couple people contacting me recently who are not, who haven't been part of the shift, who haven't been awake, who are suddenly getting on the program.
My understanding is like this, Terry.
It's not the first time that I've run across 144,000.
I had a lovely, and she comes on my show quite frequently, her name is Brandy Kennedy, and several years ago she brought up that there was going to be a need for the 144,000 to come back.
It's part of the shift, it's part of the consciousness, it's what you were saying.
Now, most interestingly, I was having some very unusual night experiences.
As you know, I don't call them dreams because they're just as real as this world because of the messages and because of what happens in my night experiences.
I was given some information based on a show I was doing and topics that I was talking about, and somebody said, well, you need to take a look at these two guys.
And these two guys, name is Shawn Clark, and a gentleman who goes by the name of Al Halla.
And I had him on, I spoke with him briefly, I had them on my show just a couple of weeks ago, and this is where he begins the conversation in earnest about, tells the story about the $144,000.
Now it was just a small portion of the show, it wasn't the whole show to be sure.
The man's got a ton of information.
And certainly can talk for many hours on this whole consciousness shift where, you know, history speaking, etc.
and so forth.
And then, you know, it was many, many days after that where the night experience that I came in with the 144,000 was understanding that it was like the anchoring, if you will, of the new consciousness energy.
And then it goes a little deeper, like you said, I have had several clients recently who have come to me because they're saying, here's what's going on in my life, and here's what's going on in their life.
It's thought processes that are almost so foreign to them that they don't comprehend them on a logical level, but from a spiritual, emotional level, they're tapped into it and they're going, does that make any sense to you?
I'm like, it makes perfect sense.
It's like the whole magic wand kind of a thing of, yes, now you are awakened.
And whatever your amnesia was, or their amnesia was, has now been lifted, and now they are stepping fully into their, or beginning anyway, step fully into their awareness.
That is the mission.
And my mission is tied up somehow, Carrie, In this 144,000, and I knew I had a mission way before all of this stuff came in, but I woke up about a month or so ago and I said, I'm on a mission.
And I don't even know what the mission was.
I did not know what it was at that point.
I know what it is at this point, to an extent.
And so there are people out there that are having, and I call this, and you know, you and I have talked about this, and I really think this is what is It's turned the miracle of life.
It's when we step into the sinking flow of who we said we are going to be, even though we don't remember what that is.
And it's happening.
And it's happening because that's the 10 to 20 percent, as they said, of overruns that they have built into this, so to speak, or that we've built into it.
However you want to look at that, whatever you want to view that as, So that 144,000 will be awakened.
And I think that is the biggest turning point in consciousness because of bringing in the whole new awareness, new consciousness.
That is what this shift is about.
That is what it all ties into, raising the level, raising the frequency, raising the vibration of those that said they wanted to be a participant in it, understand that it's still a And besides the 144,000, there will be others that also said, we're going to be in support of this new consciousness shift, this new energy, this new paradigm, this new world that we want to create.
Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, and I think that's great to hear that you're tapping into all of that and that, you know, it's becoming a sort of a mission for you in that way.
One thing that I, again, I'm sort of taking it back to this notion of consciousness and where it is damped down and where it is allowed.
Because what I'm, again, I'm noticing because of, you know, because of Camelot, I have people come towards me, come after me, like as whistleblowers, so to speak.
But what's interesting about all of that, this is really a strange dynamic, and I wonder if you're seeing this.
What it is is, you know, we have been, in a sense, preaching to the choir for a very long time.
In other words, the people that have been listening have been listening for a long time, and they have been, the ones who have been awake, have been more or less awoken, you know, let's say, you know, five to ten years ago, okay?
But some of the new ones now that I'm noticing, are actually what's it's actually comical.
I you know, and I don't mean to be derogatory, but it's, you know, and people do need to keep a sense of humor.
I think that's really desperate at this point.
But at any rate, what happens is these people are stumbling on this stuff, they're waking up, and for them, it's brand new.
And so I'm getting emails from people who are acting as though they have suddenly, you know, gotten the Word of God, so to speak.
And, you know, but they're suddenly stumbling on it and they're sure that everyone else needs to hear it.
And so they want to come on my show, they want to come and talk to people.
They don't even know what, you know, they're not even quite all there in it yet, but they already are sure that it's completely new and that they need to bring it to the world.
Whereas those are good impulses.
What's really fascinating is that they haven't taken the time to study what's out there and the fact that there might be a whole lot of people that already are up to speed on all of that.
And so it's in a sense, it's a new layer coming awake.
You know what I'm saying?
I do.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
And I think it's fascinating.
I mean, and you cannot blame them because they don't know that hello, you know, people have been talking about this to each other.
But the word hasn't gotten out because it's almost like if this was a cake, you know, if humanity was a cake and there was the top layer and then there was other layers.
And I'm not talking in terms of any kind of, you know, one being better than the other.
I'm just talking about different layers coming awake at different times and time being an illusion as it is in this dimension.
In the end, it doesn't really matter when you wake up.
Because it's the fact that you're awake that matters and that it happens.
So timing is less, I don't know, monumental, at least in my view of it.
But it is fascinating that in this sort of sands of time, to get poetic about it, this group is coming a little late to the party and yet they are coming.
And that's what matters.
And who knows what they're bringing, you know, what they're bringing with them, because each and every person has something to add to this big puzzle that we're all part of.
And I'm just saying that if you had a party and you were holding a party in your house, just for sort of an analogy, and you'd have the same people at your party for quite some time, several hours have gone by, and suddenly a whole other group shows up at the door like, wow, a party, cool, come on in and let's, you know, And you're like, yeah, we've been doing this for, you know, several hours now.
But come on in, you know, you're welcome.
And then all of a sudden, their mix sort of changes the whole.
Yep, understood, understood what you're saying.
So it's just a fun, a fun, a fun kind of analogy.
But but Yeah, so I mean, but let's turn this over to this kind of event, the rumors of an event, and find out whether or not you've been getting sort of feedback in that respect.
Okay, so here's what I know about, and here's what I know about, and it's about the vision, right?
I don't just get, you know, just because I try to keep everything on a positive doesn't mean that everything that I see is positive.
Or feel positive to me.
Because for me, everything is a choice.
It's about what do I want to put my attention and focus to.
Because I think the more that you put your attention and focus on something, that's the more you're going to experience that focus in your life.
Because that's what you're paying attention to.
I mean, it makes logical, reasonable sense to me.
So, in this event, and this event, I think, precedes, it comes before, The whole 2012-December 21st thing.
I think there's an event, and the event is about, and it's also about choices, and we haven't made the choices.
And when I say we, I'm talking about the human race as a whole, individually as well as collectively.
But there is an event that could take place, and I'm looking at like probably half a dozen scenarios.
You know, they talk about the staged alien invasion.
They talk about, you know, maybe another earthquake in Japan.
These are the negative things.
There could be a supervolcano that goes off.
You know, those are just some of the climate changes, some of the more known things.
There could also be something else, and my feeling is that it's something else that's on its way.
And I don't know what the something else is, Kerry, because I've not ever seen it before, so I don't know how to identify it.
Is it good or bad?
It depends on your perspective.
It depends on what you feel is good or bad.
That is a perspective.
It's not a cut-and-dried situation.
But does it make a huge change for humanity?
I think the way that we look at the entire world, individually as well as collectively, because of this It has the greatest potential to change the whole globe and how people perceive life in such a manner that it's either going to be a huge wake-up call or it won't.
Because, you know, there will be people that, you know, events happen and they don't seem to be moved by them one way or the other.
Because of the role that they've chosen to play, that they've come in to be a part of in this witnessing, I guess, of these series of events that's been taking place for the last few years really intensively.
So, for me, when I look at these timeline potentials, because that's a whole other story we can get into, because the energy's out there.
The reason why the energies are so chaotic and so intense, and because People are having these, you know, really enormous types of personal experiences because there's, like, these timeline convergences because of what's happening out in the cosmology of all of this, of this whole known universe and beyond, as well as the other dimensions.
I mean, that's what this time is that we live in.
It's really huge.
It's magnanimous.
It's important because it really does change The way that we are all going to live our life, who knows, maybe next week, next year.
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Real quickly, I wanted to address and speak on what you talked about, which is Oh gosh, now I lost my whole train of thought, Carrie.
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That's okay.
Well, we're going to get there.
Don't worry about a thing because I'm sure it'll come back to you.
The minute it does, we'll just go there.
Okay.
So just kind of let me know.
But what I, you know, it is really interesting right now.
And this thing, this event, I mean, I'm getting, let me just throw out sort of a laundry list of things that I'm getting.
And then you kind of get your reaction as well.
Project Bluebeam is still a possible reality, okay?
So, you know, when all else fails, that's always going to be in the backpack of the Illuminati, is to bring out the alien invasion scenario.
But there's an added layer that has to do with whether or not there really is an invasion to begin with.
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Project Hamelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we are talking to Rebecca Jernigan and having a very interesting discussion, and I have to say that I have no idea where we were, so So, Rebecca, do you remember, oh, we were sort of, I guess I was starting with Project Bluebeam.
Yep, yep, absolutely.
Okay, and then I've got somebody else who's in England who is very sure that there are big plans for some kind of event in England during the Olympics.
We've got someone else who I posted on my blog, information about Chicago, you know, coming up here very shortly, and all kinds of, you know, trucks and FEMA camps and all kinds of deliveries and weirdnesses going on in the middle of the country. trucks and FEMA camps and all kinds of deliveries and Yep.
And you're kind of in that area right now as well, right?
Yes, absolutely.
Lots of different pieces of news coming out of some, you know, just full of scare pieces where people in these little small towns are noticing military presence when they would ask somebody what was going on.
They'd say, we don't know.
You know, of course, you know, a lot of them don't.
You know, it's a need-to-know basis.
Maybe they've been told it's training exercises, but there's a lot of insidiousness, you know, deception going on, that's for sure.
I think it's just really accelerated, Kerry, and literally in the past six months, really accelerated.
Yes.
And, you know, we talked a little bit about that as well.
And there again, I had my thought, and as soon as I get it, it just goes right back out of my head.
And for some reason, I guess I'm not supposed to talk about that tonight, but whatever that means.
So, yeah.
So, yeah.
And who knows?
And the project blew me.
You know, the staged alien event, I believe that was the first thing I said when I said, you know, some of us use night vision.
You know, this has always been kind of one of those things that it's like I kind of keep my antennas out for.
I don't have any definite answers for anybody.
I mean, I'm not unlike anyone else in regards to that, even yourself, which is because everything is about potential and probability.
There's nothing written in stone because It only takes one person, and you can change a whole series of events just by making a different choice.
I mean, it really is that simple.
Not that easy, but it is that simple.
The stage alien event is the one that creates, obviously, for me, almost more so than just about anything else, because it's going to be made to look so real, and what really is the most insidious part of it is that there's going to be so many people ...that are going to be lost in the process or in this experience, that they're literally not going to be connected to the reality of it.
Because what it appears and what it is, is going to be two entirely different agendas.
And that's the point that makes it the most difficult for people, because they're not going to be able to see what it really is.
What it could appear to be, if it comes in as something that's friendly, something that's helpful, right, a staged alien event, then I would say, if you see a light, don't go into it!
Not a good thing!
If it's a negative event, you know, when it shows itself as, you know, like a staged alien event could also be That the aliens, quote-unquote, are making war on us, which could be just another way of creating some kind of, you know, like a killing field for humanity, technically, right?
That it's not really coming from the aliens, but it's coming from governments or, you know, secret agencies all around the globe.
Not just about the United States here, people, at all.
And so that's the other insidiousness.
So what it looks like, In my opinion, if it is a staged alien event, no matter how it shows itself, Carrie, it feels like to me that there's insidiousness behind it, no matter how it comes out.
I don't know how you feel about that, but that's how I feel about it.
Well, yeah.
I mean, I think if the things happen around you, you need to ask yourself who's doing this and who benefits.
I think you need to ask yourself that no matter what happens around you.
And I think you also need to sort of To basically kind of keep your sort of instantaneous reaction time down to where you process, you allow yourself to process whatever's going on so that it can either resonate or not resonate or, you know, and then give yourself time to react.
There's also, you know, the powers that be have a vested interest.
Leo Zagami talked about this.
They have a drama they want to see take place during 2012.
It's just like when you plan a theatrical event.
We're getting close to the time when the curtain rises on their so-called theatrical event.
It involves the Vatican, it involves all kinds of plans they've been making for eons.
Now, the people that think they're just going to put that aside and ignore it and not do it because, you know, Because they don't think it's going to be viable.
Need to rethink that because they are going to continue to try things.
I don't care how much light is coming in and there is a tremendous amount of light that is available if you want to let it in.
So we're really at an interesting juncture to where the dark is going to have to try very hard.
To get their thing, to get off the ground.
And they're going to maybe try multiple things.
And surprise has always been one of their big elements.
And they're having the worst time with that because of the awakened people out there.
People like us that are talking about these things.
Now, there's somebody out there who keeps asking, you know, are the indigo people, they call them indigo people, being more affected by the solar I guess, I don't know if they mean the solar eclipse or just the solar events or what's going on now.
And I have to say that first of all, I consider myself an early indigo.
So I will say that if you're sensitive, regardless of whether you consider yourself an indigo or whatever label you want to put on yourself, Yes, you're going to be affected and more so than people that simply aren't awake and aware.
But and so the answer, I guess, is basically yes.
And certainly, Rebecca, you can respond in your own way to that question.
But the other thing is that we have a limited amount of time here and I do want to Sort of allow the audience to call in and ask you questions if they would like to do so.
So feel free to do so.
I did put the phone number in the chat.
It is on American Freedom Radio.
If you if you want to call in and feel free to do that, but go right ahead, Rebecca, and respond to that.
Well, in regards to the indigo people, and I just have to answer it pretty much the same way that you did carry, which is that if you are an energy sensitive person, if you have A heightened sense of awareness.
If you have a heightened sense of being in tune, anything that goes on out in the cosmos, and certainly in your own environment, you're going to be more sensitive to the events.
The point is to not let the sensitivity overwhelm you and overcome you to where it then throws you off balance.
But the indigos are very highly sensitive as well as all the rest of the Kind of, you know, the crystal beings and then there was the other wave that came in besides the indigos with the crystals, the crystal children.
There was another group that came in as well.
Yes, they're all already a little bit more energy sensitive than what we would call the regular people, but those that have a heightened sense of awareness will certainly feel this, absolutely.
There's more questions out there, Carrie.
Yes, it does.
Sorry, I actually forgot to eat dinner tonight.
That's one of the weird things that goes on, you know, with this time, this shifting time.
I'm noticing that.
I'm having very strange sleep patterns.
I'm like up all night.
I want to sleep during the day.
And then I forget to eat at certain times, and then I find myself absolutely dying of hunger.
So, I don't know, other people are probably experiencing this to some degree.
Well, let's talk about that.
I'll talk about that a little bit.
I have been, over the last few weeks, and I know many other people as well, so I'm just speaking about myself personally, but I'm also including some other people that I actually know.
I've been going through it, but my sleep patterns have always fluctuated.
The point is that you just realize that they fluctuate.
Remember, nothing is permanent.
Nothing is permanent.
And when you can really own that, then you get more into releasing the anxiety.
If you don't go to sleep at a certain time or get as much sleep as you think you should or if you're getting too much sleep, if you relax yourself in regards to how your patterns are, It will go much easier for the individual.
It really will.
I myself, Carrie, will have days where, you know, it'll be 4 o'clock in the afternoon and I may have been up since 4 o'clock in the morning.
I wake up at the weirdest time.
So for 12 hours I've been up without having eaten a night before and I'll go, oh my gosh, I am so hungry and I think about it and it might be 18 hours since I've eaten.
And then there'll be other days It's like, you know, I eat a lot.
I mean, for what I normally eat.
I feel like I'm almost overeating, but nothing seems to fill me up.
I'll either sleep in real long bursts, or there'll be these on and off hour or two increments, and I'll be awake for 30 minutes or so, and then I'll doze off again.
So, the point behind saying all this is so that people recognize that no matter what your patterns, Absolutely.
just understand that they will continue to shift, and they're going to continue to shift for people, especially the more aware you become because the energies are shifting.
So just be in sync and flow with it, and that will actually be the easiest way to get through, you know, really the next few months here.
Absolutely.
Now, we've got a caller on the phone, and I'm going to let them ask their question if that's okay with you, Rebecca.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Okay.
All right.
So caller area code 909, you are on the air with Rebecca Jernigan and Carrie Cassidy.
Hi, hello?
Hi, I'm just calling and I heard you guys talking a little bit about consciousness, awakening and all that, and I just kind of wanted to share something that happened to me, it was really strange, that happened about Right around 2004 and I had had an injury with my back at work and all of a sudden when I got laid out, all of a sudden I got into religion.
My family never went to church or anything like that and all of a sudden I got into religion big time and I got into it for like five years and then all of a sudden I It led me on to your show, Carrie, and I followed you and Bill since the beginning.
I don't know, it's just weird how I feel like somebody is guiding me.
It's really wild.
It's hard to explain.
Thank you for sharing that.
Did you want to ask Rebecca anything?
Does that have anything to do with this consciousness awakening?
Well, it has everything to do with that.
You know, when you feel like you're being guided and you step into that guidance, honestly, when you look back, you'll be able to, you'll be able to ascertain more about what that experience meant to you.
How did it awaken you?
How did it, how did it confirm some maybe previous beliefs or what you might have thought was beliefs before that and they become your truth for the moment?
So it's all part of the process.
Um, and the process is you take a few different, different experiences.
You may be also experiencing some past life or what I call, um, yeah, past life, uh, pieces of information that you need to carry forth, certain pieces or aspects of it.
So it's, it's, you're, you're just right on the track.
So I would just simply, uh, you know, thank those that are around you.
Thank your higher self and continue to follow those instincts or intuition.
And so that's a good thing.
And then always reflect on what it is that you got from that.
How much more awake or aware or how it allows you to heal something or to look at something differently.
Okay, yeah, even meditation.
I mean, I never, it's just like something, it was like somebody spiritual trying to really lead me towards meditation and all kinds of neat stuff.
I mean, it's just really wild.
It's been an experience, to be honest with you.
Really wild.
Well, thank you very much for calling in, and thank you for sharing that.
Absolutely.
Let me just say, last thing, it's not over yet, so just enjoy it and keep smiling.
Okay, guys, thank you very much.
Okay, bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Okay, well, yeah, that's certainly an indicator right there.
Rebecca, right before we're going to come to the close here, and I know that this is probably crazy to bring up, but I have to do it nonetheless.
Because I know you've been into the Wingmakers material, right?
Yes.
And we shared that initially when we first got connected, if you recall.
That's right.
And what's very interesting right now is that this discovery in Romania of this so-called device that is talked about in this book written in 2009, which I believe probably got very little notice but is partly because of Camelot going to get a lot more notice now.
And what's happening is this device that is found in the Romanian mountains Apparently was activated and it, you know, the U.S.
military went in and the Romanian government and there's all kinds of stuff going on around it and apparently it's got Akashic records in it and it also could have some time travel aspects.
We'll be right back after this break.
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I was just talking about the wingmakers and the discovery of the site in Romania, and there happens to be a link-up with a device that was found in Iraq, apparently, and also with Egypt, and then they're saying that there may be a similar device or something like that.
Somewhere in Mongolia and what happens is what their when the device according to the book and the author when the device was activated in Romania there was a subsequent activation of the one in Iraq that the military are guarding at this time and it was was the real reason why they invaded Iraq and
What we may be looking at is some kind of ascension device that is related by the discovery in Chaco Canyon in those caves and said to be, you know, basically in some ways could be looked at as the chakras of the planet or something like that where a certain machinery that can be activated
To shift the planet into a different timeline.
And not saying this is good or bad, because there could be arguments made on both sides.
But I just wanted to give you a heads up about this, Rebecca.
And this is based on Peter Moon's book called Transylvanian Sunrise.
And again, it got into us, this discussion, because I started interviewing these people who are practicing yoga in Romania, and the government is trying to shut them down.
Well, let me share with you the device that they found in Romania.
I was aware of the... What I was aware of was the device that they found in Romania then triggered the activation of the one in Iraq.
The other pieces of the story, I wasn't... You know, I didn't have as much of the story as what you shared tonight.
I will tell you that, you know, they're finding all kinds of They're going to continue, in my opinion, to find more of these devices, and I'm not too sure that it's not some kind of an energetic grid system that doesn't show itself.
I mean, if they get all these different ones activated, who knows?
I mean, you know, we used to live in a, you know, this, they had highly, highly sentient views on it, not like we are now, because we, specifically, as you said, the poor have been dumbed down.
I mean, this has been a process that's taken thousands upon thousands of years to get humanity to the point of the ignorance that we're in, you know, through all the processes.
We don't need to go into all of them.
I mean, you know, GMOs, the educational system, all the pharmaceuticals, and obviously they've stepped up their game in the last 20, 25 years, you know, to the point of total insidiousness.
But that being said, let's get back to the wingmakers.
I've always felt that there was more to the story and I've been waiting for the rest of the story, kind of a thing with the Wingmaker material, that there was way more of it and it would be exposed.
Well now, well, I don't like the word exposed, that's a negative kind of connotation, but it would be presented.
We would find out some additional information.
And obviously we've just touched the tip of the iceberg with this, Kerry.
I'm excited for it.
As well as also, obviously, a little disheartened because this is the information that's not available to the general public, but only by those that they think are the chosen few that have the right to, you know, have access to these devices, right?
And I understand the whole hierarchy on it.
I still don't have to agree with it.
And that being said, you know, that being said, one last thing before... I'm just going to shift this just for a second and then we can come back.
I want to say thank you to all of your people in the chat room.
They have been absolutely delightful.
Some beautiful comments in there, some lovely questions.
I'm sorry we just couldn't sit here and get to all those questions that everyone had.
But I want to say thank you to all of your people that are in the chat box tonight.
It really is a very welcoming thing and it really makes me feel well.
I just wanted to say that.
That's lovely.
Thank you for saying that.
And, you know, it's not always like that, I have to say.
So, you know, kudos to the people there that are keeping a good vibe happening.
You know, we actually have two callers holding here.
Do you want to take those calls?
Let's go ahead.
Okay, so real quickly, let's see, area code 281.
We have limited time so if you could ask your question and then we'll try to answer it as quickly as possible.
Hi, Carrie.
Hi, Rebecca.
Okay, I'll be quick.
I had a dream about a year ago.
And my interpretation of it is coming up soon, that's why it's very important.
A guide of mine said, showing me these four earths, these little globes, and when he came to the fourth, when he said, the fourth earth will be destroyed by Lucifer's wrath.
And I had a question, and I was questioning, and he responded immediately, your mother's name was Christine, like that meant something.
And I thought about this for a year, Here's what I think, because it's coming up.
Lucifer's wrath is Venus' past.
Does that make sense to you?
And Christine is the Christ consciousness that I feel is going to be coming through at that time.
Rebecca, go right ahead.
Well, you know, obviously all dreams are open to interpretation by the receiver of those night experiences that you had.
True.
I still feel like that there's some pieces there you might want to get behind some of the information that was shared with you.
When I say get behind, that means that you're missing some additional depth.
You're right.
That's why I'm putting it out there.
I'm like, there's something, but this is important.
It's been nagging at me.
Well, I would suggest you just sitting back and just kind of taking a deep breath because The picture gets wider.
It gets wider for you.
Certainly.
And really, it would really honestly take me probably about 20 minutes to actually answer all of that for you.
But there is some additional information in there.
You can just ask your guide, your higher self, please share some additional expression on that because there is way, way more information there.
It's not quite as cut and dry as you might think it is.
However, I don't think it's totally off-base either.
I think there's just some additional language there that you need to grasp with that.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome, sweetie.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Okay.
We're going to go to the next caller here.
Area code 619.
You're on the air with Rebecca Jernigan and Carrie Cassidy.
Oh, it's me.
Donya?
Hi.
Hello.
Hi.
Hello.
Hi.
Oh, you guys were talking about...
Like this device that was found in a rock, and it has energy potential around it to perhaps, you know, connect grid lines and such?
Well, I happen to see that, like, there's a strong energy coming through to the sun, and the sun is going to light up the pyramids, and the pyramids are the energy keepers, basically, in gridlock.
Or something with that, because when the reflection of the sun hits the pyramids and the Earth is turning, that's the important thing, because that shape makes The dodecahedron and the icosahedron around the Earth, that, in sacred geometry, is basically the same geometric makeup of our DNA.
And if our DNA is supposed to change in this shift, like going up to a higher realm, the next P orbital, basically, because in chemistry, when the electron goes to the next P orbital, they bounce to the next dimension, and both of them are alive, just as equivalent, existing in and both of them are alive, just as equivalent, existing in parallel But it's all an energy variation.
So it could happen that way if we go by the laws of science.
However, in the next place, I think the laws of science would be different than they are now.
But just to speculate on what's going to happen.
I'll just interrupt you here real quick.
You know, one of the things that they've been talking to me about for about the last year is about the law of physics.
That's what they've been talking to me about.
And the third-dimensional law of physics is not the same as other dimensional laws of physics.
Right.
And I can tell you, when we look at science now and some of the ways that things are done, sometimes those rules that they've been following, even when they follow those rules, the application does not come out after they apply it.
It does not come out.
The outcome is not the same.
Well, perhaps consciousness changes that, too.
It's because the laws of physics are shifting and changing, literally, subtly.
Because of the energetic shift that's going on.
And if you look at the Great Pyramid, if anyone would look at the Great Pyramid, there's not another one like it.
It's a stand-alone structure.
And everything is in there, all the way down to the nano of sacred geometry.
Basically, the Earth, the dimensions, is made up of the human body, in ratios.
And even Thoth talks about that.
It's very interesting how they knew that.
The question, I think, in some ways, the question is whether the Great Pyramid will be used as an ascension gate or not.
And the fact of the matter is that the powers that be have been dampening down the energetics there for some time.
Trying to, right?
Yes, exactly.
And so what I think that's a good point, saying that there could be energetics associated with the Sun.
Hitting the Great Pyramid in a certain angle that could then facilitate sort of a breakthrough, if you will.
Absolutely, because it goes on the same line.
Those pyramids are in line with our DNA as well.
The sun goes down at the Great Pyramid and it rises directly at Teotihuacan in Mexico City at the apex of the Sun Temple.
So they are in alignment perfectly.
Yeah, okay.
Now, we are really low on time here, so, Donya, thank you so much for calling in.
Thank you, Rebecca and Kerry.
Okay, thank you so much.
And we've got one more caller here.
I don't know if we can even squeeze them in, to be honest with you.
Rebecca, do you want to give out your website real quick while I unmute this caller?
And go ahead.
Sure.
My website is JourneysWithRebecca.com.
There you're going to find all the information on the different radio shows that I do.
I do My Journey Towards Rebecca as well as The Real Women Stepping Up on Thursday nights.
Fantastic information.
It's got a little store tab.
I've got stuff on the Elohanes there.
I've also got my services page.
I've got lots and lots of information.
I've got some free stuff, free meditations, things like that.
Uh, it's a brand new site.
Well, it's not a brand new site.
The website itself is old, but it's a brand new Gilson Field.
Okay.
Thank you very much, everyone, for listening.
And Rebecca, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Thank you, Mary.
Thank you, dear.
Okay.
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