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April 25, 2012 - Project Camelot
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04/25/2012 - John Kettler
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Here is a Jaguar outside my door.
It's stretched out in purring, waiting for more.
In a strange shade of stone, deep cat-eye green.
No way to escape, no one hears my scream.
He's come here so often, just when I'm alone.
I can't help but longing, I'll feel when he moans.
I'm Gary Kasten from Project Hamlin.
This is Lower Radio and I'm very happy to be here on this Wednesday night.
We have John Kettler standing by as my guest for this evening and I just want to make a couple of announcements first of all.
Letting people know that I'm going to be speaking on Saturday at the Alchemy event.
Here in Los Angeles and you can find out more details about that if you go to my website ProjectCamelot.org will take you there or you can type in ProjectCamelotPortal.com and either one will take you to the same place.
If you just scroll down on the front page you'll find out the various radio shows I'm doing.
This week is John Kettler.
So at any rate I am speaking on Saturday in Los Angeles at the Alchemy Conference and I encourage you to come on down and I just want to let you guys know that I am planning a trip to Egypt on the 21st of December 2012, actually arriving December 12th and staying through the 23rd and putting together a group of speakers to take with me
It's going to be a pretty fascinating event and so if you want to go to Egypt you'll see I'll put the flyer on my front page very shortly here and also on my blog.
And you can contact me and let me know that you're able to or interested in coming.
And as soon as I get more details on, you know, the cost and logistics and everything, I'll let you know.
It will be for holding down the light and for the transition that we're going to be going through.
Should be a lot of fun and quite exciting.
I've already got Hugh Newman on board.
I believe Anthony Collins and it looks like I've got a tentative.
I've got Michael Tellinger who's agreed to come and I've got a tentative from Laura Eisenhower and possibly, well, I've invited all sorts of people.
It's just quite incredible.
So I just wanted to let everyone know about that.
Also on the front page you'll see that I'm going to be speaking at the Shasta event.
In May, May 18th through the 21st.
And I believe we still have some openings there.
Be sure to use my name if you do buy a ticket.
And then if I'll be at Conspiracy Con in June, I think it's the 2nd, 3rd and then also on June 16th at the SAC.
UFOcon.com, which is in Sacramento, California, with Anthony Sanchez.
Should be a lot of fun.
And, gosh, then going into August, well, the rest is on my website.
So, John, without further ado, you have, we've got a live stream together, and you have a website for those listening who don't know your work, which is JohnKettler.com, and I believe that's the URL.
How are you doing tonight?
I'm in several forms of shock.
I think I missed a critical memo or something somewhere.
Can you see me, first of all?
I can see you, but we're on radio right now, so I don't need to tell you.
Oh, okay.
Well, we've been doing the camera thing.
I've got a much-improved computer, and I actually have a webcam now.
Yeah, well, you sound great, and so, like I said, because we're on radio, you don't need video, but it's great to see you anyhow.
Well, at this moment, why are you in shock?
Well, because I think there was an email or something that was sent to me saying, you know, are you available?
Or maybe you dealt with my webmaster and he forgot to tell me.
I didn't know I had a show scheduled.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, that's interesting.
We've sent several emails and, uh, I thought we did get a confirmation back from you.
I've got someone helping me schedule things.
Her name is Donya.
Anyway, my understanding was we had you all set.
You and I agreed on this.
You may not remember.
This was quite some time ago, so perhaps you've slipped your mind.
Oh, okay.
So this was one of those several weeks ago things.
Yes, I can.
Okay.
Yeah, it could even have been a couple months ago at this point because we're, you know, time is moving so quickly here.
Things have gotten very crazy, as you can appreciate.
Yes, yes, I can.
Okay, because I was through my email as of yesterday at least, and I've been, you know, fighting the battle of the new computer or new-ish computer.
And so it's like I didn't remember hearing anything from my webmaster, and I talked to him earlier, and he didn't say anything about a show.
And, you know, all of a sudden I get this call, and it's like, stand by, John.
What?
Okay.
Okay, that's interesting.
Well, I don't know, maybe my emails are being blocked.
You know, I've sent... I haven't checked my email today.
I've been... Well, no, this is something we sent to you quite some time ago.
And actually, well, I see that.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
We're on the air together.
That's right.
I'm sure we'll figure it out.
Yeah, I'm very happy that you were able to come on the air even though you didn't know you were coming on the air.
That's right.
Well, you've got to be quick on your feet.
Yes, thank you very much for that.
So at any rate, why don't you tell us where things are at with you?
It's been quite a while since we last spoke.
Well, since I did my last show with you, I've been on Robert Stanley's show for Unicus and I was just on Oh dear, I don't remember her last name.
Her first name is Kimberly.
She's up out of Boston.
Okay, well, actually, I wasn't so much asking you what you've been doing as far as broadcasts, but I'm interested about your work.
If you could talk a little bit about... Well, that was part of my work, though, is getting the word out.
But as far as my work goes, we've been...
Going through a major site transition.
We're now on dedicated hosting.
We've got so much traffic we've crashed the servers repeatedly and we think we're stable now.
I've covered a number of news stories.
I've had stuff on chemtrails up with some good pictures that we didn't have before covered.
The downing of the North Korean HAHA weather satellite that wasn't, turned out to be a full-blown dummy warhead test.
You know, basically an operational test for the missile, except it didn't have a live warhead.
It had a warhead stand-in that weighs and flies the same, and a telemetry package on it.
We have a whole new ET race, maybe.
Um, called the Egg Beings, which look a lot like Humpty Dumpty, and I've got cases of that going back to the, uh, 70s, and one as recent as two weeks ago.
Being looked like Humpty Dumpty, short legs, doesn't move very fast, and several cases was reported as armed with something that looked like a 1950s hairdryer.
My intelligence contacts tell me that people have seen these things being fired, and they're apparently some sort of an energy weapon, maybe a laser or something, but
This is why it had been seen coming out of them at any event, but we've got multiple lab duct tees and the ETs, EDs, the extraterrestrials, extradimensionals, after some digging through their very extensive computer files on interstellar races, tell me that they call them egg beings and they're from the egg nebula.
And there's some great secret of the egg that one of my readers knew even as a child and kind of nonplussed the being.
But now I've got two people out of the fairly immediate circle of my sight, one writing directly and another one relaying through a friend.
We're talking about their experiences, and I've also gotten accounts from my intelligence contacts of cases in Poland and Finland, where these things just come floating down from above, in one case onto a picnic, and another case came floating down and was warmly greeted with a shotgun blast to the chest, which knocked Humpty Dumpty
over and Humpty Dumpty rolled down the hill, which allowed the person who would otherwise have been abducted to escape.
So that one's pretty out there even by my standards, which are increasingly elastic, I'd have to say.
Okay.
Let me ask you, you're saying that you heard about these beings from what you call intelligence sources, as opposed to some of the, I guess, the channelers that you're working with, right?
Well, it started with one of my readers.
Send in a story about this bizarre experience and I happened to talk to my contacts and I said, Oh, well, um, yeah, it sounds strange, but then we had, you know, these two incidents I've mentioned and I went, wow, who knew?
And then a while later, somebody who's a friend of one of the other readers on the site, Relayed information that she'd had encounters and As recently as I say is two weeks ago, so it's not some strange phenomenon of the 70s.
It's an ongoing thing Okay, but what you're saying is This is not necessarily from an intelligence source.
It's from a reader.
Is that right?
It's both.
Well, it started with a reader's description of a childhood experience.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Right.
The existence of these sorts of beings or possibly screen memories that were presented I got a piece of data just the other night that says that at least in the 70s time frame a publisher had put out, I think it was called Wonder Books or something, they published kiddie stories, had put out
Uh, some sort of a Humpty Dumpty book, so they may have just glommed onto that, but that certainly doesn't explain why they would be doing something like that still with a, you know, a grown-up woman.
I see.
Well, regardless, I mean, you know, being Project Camelot, we get told all kinds of stories.
Whether or not you believe them and whether or not there's any substantiation behind it is another matter.
How did you substantiate this?
Well, it started with a report.
Then I talked to my contacts.
I mean, an anecdotal report, if you would.
Then I talked to my contacts.
My contacts informed me there were two known cases of these egg beings being encountered, both in Europe, as I said, Finland and Poland.
Okay, and when you say your contacts, are you talking about people in the intelligence community?
Yeah.
I see.
And they were relating other anecdotal stories, is that correct?
They were relaying intelligence reports that they had.
Okay and then I mean none of this uh they had that then I got an additional report plus I also talked to you know The extraterrestrials, extradimensionals, to see what they knew.
And that was after I'd written a headline on that particular post.
It was late in the game that they got into their databases and found that they did in fact know something about these beings.
And in the weeks since, new material has emerged.
what I just shared with you about that book connection, I got just the other day, for instance. - I see, okay. - So as far as I'm concerned, this looks pretty solid to me.
We're either dealing with beings that look like eggs for whatever reason, and there seems to be some deep mystical thing attached to that.
And the reader, whose name is Jan, went off on a... Let me stifle this.
Okay, sounds like you're getting a phone call there.
Alright, well, as far as what else is going on, in terms of the situation with Iran, where we left off was actually about a month ago, I think it was, and we had quite a discussion at that time about various things going on in which the
The ETs that you're dealing with were interfering with certain incidents, one in particular with regard to Iran, if I remember correctly, and some missiles that were deposited in, I believe it was Venezuela, and etc., etc.
So I'm wondering if you have any updates on those stories.
There was the episode where these suicide boats and vessels apparently covertly carrying anti-ship missiles vanished in broad daylight in the Persian Gulf while they were attempting to conduct attacks.
Something of the order of 40 disappeared right in the middle of their attack runs.
This was seen And reported by many people on Twitter.
Navy crews, crews of foreign warships, merchant ship crews, merchant ship captains and whatnot all put tweets out.
And we've also confirmed through other contacts who have journalistic connections of many, many years standing that, you know, film was shot.
We'll be right back in a few minutes.
Thank you so much, John Kettler.
They were basically gagged by naval intelligence.
Okay, we're going to a commercial here.
We'll be right back in a few minutes.
Thank you so much, John Kettler.
We'll be right back.
Okay.
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And we're talking to John Kettler.
And I have done a radio show with him in the past as well as a live stream event.
Actually, two live stream events.
and And Right now we are catching up on what's been going on in the past month since we last talked.
John, are you with me?
Oh, yes.
Okay, very good.
What I'd like to do here is just for the people who have not been familiar with your work in the past, Do you want to sort of give a short summary of your background and how you got into this position to where you have a website and you're reporting information from, as it happens, both sides of an equation, meaning the, as you call them,
ETs, EDs, which are extraterrestrials, extradimensionals, as well as contacts in intelligence agencies and I guess maybe the defense industry.
Do you want to cover briefly how you got into this game?
Yeah.
I was the son of a defense engineer who retired after 40 years as a chief scientist at Hughes Aircraft.
I am the Electro-Optical and Data Systems Group.
I've studied military history since childhood and military technology, wargaming background.
11 years in military aerospace as a professional military analyst of the then Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact.
Anything from man-portable weapons to deep space surveillance.
Last program I worked on was military applications of the National Aerospace Plane.
Clearances through Top Secret, certain nuclear clearances and other special access clearances to include the program that I mentioned last, the so-called NDVs or NASP-derived vehicles.
Went on to work, get a primary research credit in the Academy Award-winning documentary, The Panama Deception, exposing what was really going on there and why in the history of credit, and none dare call it murder.
50-plus magazine articles published in two anthologies, have the e-book UFOs, Antigravity, Vamanas and Mystics in print and another one on Extreme UFO Recovery coming out.
And this blog got set up in November of last year to build a presence in an area that my partner and I thought was
Underserved and a good way to make use of a lot of material that I'd put together for a magazine called Atlantis Rising, to which I still held the copyright.
And it wasn't doing much, and we thought, if we build a good site, we can market this and other products.
But that was before I had some of the contacts that I had.
A few years ago, I have a friend who's very out there, and I used to think, frankly, she was nuts, but she's actually related to some of the E.T.Z.D.s in a very special way.
And I went to a channeling session for her, and I found myself being able to hear and see parts of the conversation from the other side.
That kind of was an eye-opener.
And I'm sure you've had the experience of the phone ringing and knowing who it was on the other end before picking up the phone.
You know I had some of those experiences and there was somebody I had a really strong connection with and I think that probably opened up the telepathic channels too.
But next thing I know I've barely got this blog started on UFOs and anti-gravity and suppressed science and all this stuff, and next thing I know I'm in the middle of getting really great information from terrestrial contacts about asteroid YU55, but I start getting information through the extraterrestrial, extra-dimensional contacts.
So I find myself in a position unique in UFO research of being able to talk to both sets of parties, essentially.
I, you know, I talk to the witnesses, I talk to the people in the community who have, you know, clearances in the stratosphere and whatnot.
And, uh, but then I'm talking to various Stellar races, and what do they know about it?
What's their take on this?
Was this an accident that brought this particular craft down?
Whose craft was it?
Was it perceived as a military attack on the craft?
Were there discussions regarding possible military action against Earth for doing it?
You know, that sort of thing.
That is a very, very odd position to be in.
And then in the course of that, you encounter information which one or the other groups is very sensitive about.
So it's like, okay, well, you know, we don't want you to talk about this right now, and here's why.
Or maybe you don't hear, here's why.
And similarly, it's like getting information on deep background.
Don't say anything about this for the time being.
And then there's the Tightrope.
That's one of the Tightrope Walking Acts.
The other Tightrope Walking Act is knowing how things really are and not overdosing your readership, listenership, whatever you want to call it, because it's both now, given the shows that I'm on.
Uh, giving people too much information because it just causes their reality tunnels to fall in on them.
You've got to limit the rate at which you put out certain categories of information.
And some people have abreacted already.
I had a boss who used to say, don't make me drink from the fire hydrant.
In other words, you're giving me too much information.
So I've had to learn to kind of slow down in that regard.
Yeah, very good.
And thank you for that.
I think that that will be helpful for any new listeners that we've got.
I've been looking over your website and I was wondering if you could talk about, well, you've got a lot to say about Drake, it appears.
And yet it's not at all clear where you stand or where your contacts stand with regard to the information he's putting out.
Do you want to get into that at all?
Well, yes, and actually Drake has responded to me.
It's in my comments too, and he's apparently said something else more recently.
when I first I just get deluged with information in terms of comments from my readers and between just dealing with those and doing the other things that keep the site going in terms of my responsibilities
as opposed to the technical responsibilities of the webmaster but generating the content, answering the comments answering the emails, that kind of thing that's more than enough to keep me occupied plus I was running on a rig which could barely run a video So, I mean, you know, you got a comment with four video links in it, what are you going to do?
You don't have time to get into it.
So when we had the site down repeatedly during the most recent migration, I was actually able to go read the primary Drake interview with David Wilcock, which, as I understand, runs 196 pages in six-point type. runs 196 pages in six-point type.
And I read it, and some of the things that were discussed I have some familiarity with because I've dealt with state sovereigns and stuff like that.
But the problem I had with it, and the problem my intelligence contacts had with it, is, you know, the first rule of keeping a secret is never write anything down on paper, and here he's talking about seeing a five-inch binder in 1979, right?
Well, it's 15 inches now, for sure.
If they're really ready to move, that means you've got to have orders cut and logistical arrangements in place and things like that.
You just can't willy-nilly move Forces without okay, you've got to have fuel Designated and all kinds of other arrangements in place so the question that I raised is How do you do all this stuff?
How is it that this thing is so well known that apparently?
90% of the officers in the Pentagon know about it yet the forces of darkness haven't been able to crush it and how is it that they've been able to hide from A really, really good network of contacts extending from the operators in the field way up there into zones most people don't even know exist.
I was told, I sent the information to some people who got it to the contacts and You know, the opinion that came back was it could be done, but it would be a lot of work as far as hiding it.
But they considered it being very difficult to hide it.
As far as implementing it, it seemed like a reasonable approach.
Okay, at this moment, I guess I'm a little confused.
Are you talking about this binder?
Yeah, and I'm talking about everything that flows from it.
As I understand it from the Drake interview, in the waning days of the Nixon administration, the military started doing some contingency planning for situations where presidents start to run amok and all this other stuff.
And by 1979, all this contingency planning was a five-inch thick binder, which is what Drake describes back then.
Okay.
So now it's 30 years later.
The plans have continued to be honed and refined and fleshed out.
And if they're going to be of any use to anybody other than as a theoretical guide, you've got to have, you know, Source X at location Z using this fuel supply is to go here, and it's supposed to be there by time Q.
It's got to be to that level if they're going to really do processing.
Arrest the way they say they're going to do them.
The latest word I've heard is that they're talking about doing smaller scale arrests, which of course reduces the logistics side of it.
But then the other question I'm getting from my contacts is, well, what authority does the World Court have or whatever?
You've got the notification process, and technically speaking, based on what we've read, you've been legally free since February 20th of this year.
But you'd never know for some of the stuff that's going on.
Now, can secrets be kept?
Yes, but The way secrets are kept is compartmentalization on the one hand, and severely limiting the number of people who know.
If it's a secret so broadly known that a gigantic office building, which is full of officers, if that secret is known to 90% of the officers in that gigantic office building, i.e.
the Pentagon, And a whole bunch of other places, too.
How is it that the government, which manages to get people into every organization, essentially, that's got even a couple of people in it, to see what it's doing?
You know, how have they managed to keep the agents provocateur out of this?
Okay, well, why do you think that they have?
I mean, the fact of the matter is that there are white hats and, you know, and black hats, or whatever you want to call them, in intelligence, in agencies, in, you know, in the defense industry, you name it.
And so, you know, for all intents and purposes, they can't keep them out.
Well, if that's the case, the kind of thing that they're talking about, you would see, if this thing were compromised, you'd see wholesale sacking of officers.
You'd probably be hearing about trials or military tribunals or something like The powers that were would act very swiftly.
And this is the other part that doesn't compute for either me or my contacts.
If you're doing this kind of thing, you don't go around talking about it.
I understand what Drake is saying about his reasons for it, that he's got permission for it, and you don't want to shock the public when things start to happen.
I get all that.
But...
Operations of this sort are conducted under extreme secrecy.
And the more people who know about it, the harder it is to protect the secret.
You know?
I'll give you a brief example from World War II.
The clearance... Are we going to commercial?
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We'll be right back.
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I'm Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we're talking to John Kettler.
And we have just been talking about the Drake situation with a volume of material that supposedly was, I don't know, absconded by Drake or given to Drake at some point, or he claims that it was.
And I guess, John, you and your sources are saying that it's not possible that he has access to that.
No, no, no.
There's a fundamental miscommunication going on here, Carrie.
What I recall reading was that he himself had a background.
I don't know whether he was military or X by that time, but he was picked up by a colonel And taken over to see somebody.
And knowing what I know about the military, if a colonel comes and gets you, you're going to be seeing a general.
Okay?
He says that at this general's house in 1979, after he'd been felt out on some of the basic concepts, that he was taken over to this person's house, whom he doesn't name, that he was taken over to this person's house, whom he doesn't name, and he was shown the binder and given access to it and read roughly
He almost wound up, I don't remember whether he spent the night or not, but he was there until the wee hours, essentially.
And went through most of it and was just blown away by it.
And then apparently time marched on and whatnot.
And then later on, he educated himself in various things and was listening to some radio show.
And somebody called in and was talking, giving some information about sovereignty and regaining it.
And he had it all wrong.
So Drake tells, phones in, doesn't want people doing things that are going to get themselves into deep trouble with the judicial system, like six-month sentences and that kind of thing.
He said some things, and according to what I remember of the interview, somebody in Pennsylvania was paying attention.
I guess somebody in the Pennsylvania government.
Notification procedures and whatnot.
Next thing you know, it turns out Pennsylvania has formally reclaimed its sovereignty and has so notified the International Court of Justice at The Hague, the Netherlands.
Yes, I'm aware of that information, but I'm not sure how that pertains to this volume of material.
So, the gist of the money, yes?
He said that in 1979 he got to read much of this set of contingency plans.
But the problem the military was having was they couldn't find anybody who would get off what we call Top Dead Center and go out and do something.
And apparently it wasn't until 2011 when somebody in Pennsylvania acted on this method by which to reclaim sovereignty.
Then the military got interested and said, well, if you did that in Pennsylvania, can you do that elsewhere?
And they did some looking and they said, well, yeah, you can.
How you do it varies somewhat whether or not you are a state which was originally part of the Thirteen Colonies and what kind of colony you were in addition, because Some of them were crown colonies and others were corporate colonies, and it gets into some distinctions there.
Yes.
He wasn't given the binder.
He didn't carry it anywhere.
The military had a set of plans and contingencies and things it wanted to be able to do, but it had no legal vehicle through which it could do those things.
Until this Pennsylvania thing came down the pike.
Now subsequently, as I understand it, a majority, not just of the states that make up this country, and I use that in the sense they were before they got glommed up by the corporate United States in 1871, plus a whole bunch of the Native American
So a majority and then some.
All basically have filed paperwork, and so the world is on notice that we've reclaimed our sovereignty.
Yeah, look, I don't think the world is on notice that we've reclaimed our sovereignty.
I think that's bullshit, to be honest.
Actually, what I'd like to figure out here is what is going on in terms of the The sort of claims of Drake and whether your intelligence sources either agree or disagree with his claims.
So, if you could go down that road a little bit.
Well, I could try.
We're still trying to figure it out, too.
What I'm being told by my ground contacts is they don't know anything about it.
What I'm being told by my topside contacts is that my ground contacts are being lied to.
about the existence of this plan.
I see.
Okay, so I mean, that is to say they're either being lied to overtly as in I don't know anything about it or they're being lied to Passively by playing dumb and pretending not to know anything about it.
Well, right.
I mean, if you think logically, of course they have a million contingency plans, and of course there's MJ-12, which is actually, you know, called Scion at this time, which is all about that sort of thing.
You know, a group put together during the time of the Truman administration.
So, I mean, to say that there's a plan and contingency plans of this sort of thing, you know, for, well, for intervention, for, you name it, and certainly for 2012, and then you've got the Illuminati contingency plans, or modus operandi, which has to do with what exactly they're rolling out at this time.
So, you know, all of that is believable in terms of there are plans.
Now, what Drake had to look at, what he thinks he saw and what he's talking about.
I mean, in other words, there is an effort by this particular group that Drake represents to get the military to operate under some quasi-lawful type of operation where they take back the country from, well, the current government, which is actually a secret government, and the people that we are seeing perform are basically puppets under their control.
However, for all intents and purposes, what Drake is actually talking about is the military rebelling against that, which is, for all intents and purposes, a coup.
A military coup and there's no way that you're going to get a lawful sort of other than saying that the current government is against the Constitution.
That's as lawful as you're going to get in terms of something to back you up.
So whether states want to rebel at this time and also, you know, claim their sovereignty is another matter, but that's You know, that's not going to sort of solve the problem for the rest of the people in the United States.
Like, if one state here and there claims sovereignty, then you've got a lot, what, 50-something states claiming sovereignty, but you're not solving the initial problem because we are run by a New World Order type of government.
So... Well, yes and no.
I mean, part and parcel of The plan in terms of the execution revolves around sheriffs in the counties, who are the highest legal officers in their counties.
City cops are in a different category, constitutionally speaking, their subordinate status.
And then you've got marshals.
Whose authority predates the corporate United States as well.
Well, my understanding... They can call for help from the military, and that does not violate posse comitatus.
Well, actually, what I was told, according to my source, the marshals, the federal marshals are under the sort of thumb of the current, you know, Sort of government, secret government, whatever you want to call it.
The sheriffs, you are correct, do have, and I've posted this on my blog in case you're not aware of it, that the sheriffs, according to my sources, do have that power that you're talking about.
They could say we're not going to take it anymore and that we refuse to actually allow the sort of government to interfere with our operations and so on.
Some already have.
They've actually told the IRS.
If you walk into my company and don't clear it with me first, you're going to jail.
Okay.
So, right now, in terms of all of that, you have, again, your sources.
Now, are you hearing That there is something going on where something substantial is going on in terms of sort of taking back of the United States, for example, that is a little more substantial than what's been discussed so far.
No, the opposite.
Oh, the opposite.
So there's no motion.
No, what I'm hearing is my contacts don't know anything about it.
And I've been told emphatically that the military in this country does not want to get dragged into something domestic.
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Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Hamlet Ah, ah, ah, ah.
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And we are talking to John Kettler, and this is the second hour of the show, so we're going to try to take questions from the chat, if I can actually figure out if there are any questions in there.
I have someone contacting me basically saying that the sheriffs are the top law enforcement officer in the country, that they override everyone, including the FBI and the Justice Department.
And so that means that they have it within their means to turn this thing around.
John, do you understand that?
They are the top law enforcement Counties.
Okay.
Sheriffs have narrow jurisdiction.
It is limited to their county.
Marshals.
Who are also quite old and stem from the French Maréchal, have authority to range the entire country and actually cross foreign borders in hot pursuit of malefactors.
Well, my understanding of that is that the marshals are actually under the executive branch and the Justice Department.
And therefore, they are actually culpable and basically would not do anything to take back the country.
But the sheriff is the top dog in every county.
And so you can understand how if you add up every single county and every sheriff, if a substantial number of sheriffs, with the understanding of their so-called limited jurisdiction, were to take back their power, so to speak, from the FBI, then at that point you would have, I guess, a legal rebellion on your hands that would be led by the individual sheriffs, in essence.
Yeah, I mean, that sounds like it would be the case.
I, you know, I've only been recently exposed to this.
I've been deep in the bowels of, you know, the interstellar conflict and a lot of other things and planning for...
Operations by the E.T.Z.D.s on Earth who recently took a thousand missiles out of China's underground arsenal, much to their consternation.
Well, let's actually talk about that because I think we've covered the Drake thing at least for the time being.
Could we talk about this recent article of yours talking about these Well, the back story on it is I was informed by the ETZDs themselves that they'd done it.
I know which group did it.
which side of your contacts notified you kind of the back story if you wouldn't mind?
Well, the back story on it is I was informed by the ETZDs themselves that they've done it.
I know which group did it.
China is on their list and it's not their Christmas list for weapon proliferation issues.
Exporting all kinds of know-how it shouldn't be exporting.
Plus, China, until recently, had two E.T.E.D.
races working with it.
One of whom happens to be the Reptoids, who are the mortal enemies of some of the liberation forces, the E.T.' 's, E.D.' 's, I work with.
Okay.
Destroyed some of their worlds.
Absolutely.
Well, can you tell me, you just said they were exporting some things they shouldn't be exporting.
That's kind of a very general statement.
Can you be a little more specific?
Missile technology, for one.
Okay.
Exporting that to whom?
I'd have to go back and think about that one for a while, because I've had so many people sending so many bad things to so many places, it frankly gets confusing.
All right.
So in terms of you're saying the Chinese, why were you saying the Chinese up till recently?
You're saying that recently they had some kind of change in sides?
The Chinese had two ETED groups living in their country.
One is that I've written about is referred to as the elder race and has been there For thousands of years, as nearly as I can tell, lives on the surface, lives with the Chinese.
For all I know, it may look like the Chinese, or vice versa.
The other one was the Reptoids.
From the Reptoids, the Chinese got some very, very scary technology, including the ability to transport, say, the equivalent of a division, a fully equipped division, Instantly anywhere in the world.
This gave rise to the reports that you were doubtless seeing of sightings by the Canadian border and Mexico, both up near the U.S.
border, north and south.
of Chinese troops and Chinese equipment and all this other stuff and apparently they did that and they were making use of advanced holographic screening technologies where you can't see into it with a satellite or binoculars or anything else until you're actually under it.
Okay, but you're saying, okay, how does that, I'm sorry, I'm not understanding what you're meaning in terms of, first of all, you're saying there's an elder race and you're saying they're working with reptilians as well, which is completely believable.
However, then you're saying that there's some kind of change.
Okay, yes, and I'm coming to that, but let me tell you one of the things that got the Chinese into trouble.
Okay.
They were working with the Reptoids.
The Reptoids have this transporter technology, not, you know, beam four people down from the Enterprise.
We're talking about a division with all its tanks and artillery and rocket launchers and 15,000 men or whatever it is and all that stuff in one go.
They apparently deployed themselves on both of the U.S.
borders and were seen, were being supplied for a time.
There were people reported making food deliveries and whatnot.
I got concerned and that got some people in the
Spook community concerned and some investigations were done and by the time we were able to get what they call boots on the ground, you know, maybe they were invited by the Mexicans but the Canadians, you know, would have been interpreted as an invasion and we had blanket permission from the Canadians to destroy them on site if we found any.
Okay?
Yes.
Absolutely, and my understanding is... We didn't find any, but once the ETZDs became aware that this technology was out there, they went in and grabbed it.
Just like they raided the Black Project facilities here, they grabbed the technology.
And later, another one of the groups that's part of the Liberation Forces went in With the kind of weaponry that was used in Virginia to destroy one of the deep underground military bases full of I believe it was Reptoids and wiped out the Reptoids in China.
So China has been doing some very bad things.
So China was punished and it was also probed.
They wanted to see what would happen If they mounted a raid on China.
And so what they did was they went into China's pride and joy, it's underground Great Wall, which there's a link to in my article on this raid.
And they took a thousand intermediate range and intercontinental range ballistic missiles and their warheads.
As punishment, as warning, as a test to see what the Chinese would do.
And the Chinese are all about face.
And they lost a lot of face.
People were taken out and quietly shot.
Organ harvests went up considerably, as you might imagine, because that's what they do when they execute somebody.
When the state executes somebody.
And I bet the Sinologists, the experts on what goes on in China, probably noticed some changes in names on command structure lists and whatnot.
But they took 20% of China's secured nuclear arsenal in one shot.
Okay, and this information comes to you by way of your ETs?
Yes.
Yes.
I asked if there had been any kind of chatter or anything heard You know, I asked my intelligence contacts, and they said no, but went on to opine that this is not the kind of thing the Chinese would advertise.
It is indeed the last thing the Chinese would talk about publicly.
And the word I have from the ETZDs was, you know, every kind of emotion imaginable went through the Chinese, and they can read intention.
You know, they were shocked.
They were horrified.
They were embarrassed.
They felt guilty.
They engaged in endless self-criticism.
They tried to hide it.
And, of course, you can't hide a loss of that magnitude.
Not with secret police operating in the units and political officers and all this other stuff.
Right.
You know, I don't know if it went so far as removing the commander of the whole operation, which is to say the so-called Second Artillery Corps, or what.
But, you know, people were executed.
I haven't been able to confirm this yet, at least, through my ground contacts.
Okay.
There may be a way to do it, but so far I don't have any independent proof of it.
Right.
Well, let me say this.
I have had some contacts in China.
I've not heard anything remotely like this with regard to China.
Now, the other thing is that the Chinese that are on the Mexican border have not disappeared.
and that they are still there, and the fact that you didn't find any or your contacts didn't find any seems rather suspicious to me.
Can you explain that?
Well, in a certain time frame, and I don't remember when it was, a whole bunch of tourists, if you would, just happened to be in good shape and all that, went across.
And drove in the areas where there had been Chinese reported and did some very careful looking in some clever and subtle ways and did not find anything.
Well, the understanding I have is that they're in underground bases.
Well, okay, that changes the complexion of the problem, because at the time I was told that they were, you know, in tents and operating out of containers and things of this.
Well, apparently they were both on the surface, because I definitely got a feats on the ground report from someone who was in a position to know very recent reporting that the Chinese were observed Okay, well they may have an arrangement with Mexico.
I will have this looked into, believe me.
And if they find any of them in Canada, they're in deep, deep trouble.
But if they've got actual underground bases, that changes the complexion of the problem considerably, because that wasn't what we were looking for when the reconnaissance, if you would, was being conducted.
Okay.
The super-deployment technology has been taken away, so I don't know whether before that happened, whether they managed to get a base put in, or what the deal is, but I'm going to find out.
Okay, I appreciate that.
Now, I do have some people that are asking some questions here, so I'm going to see if I can pick some of these questions out, if you don't mind.
Is that okay with you?
Not at all.
So someone is asking in regard to a report that Benjamin Fulford put out very recently about what he called major confrontations in the South China Sea that had something to do with the Cabal trying to steal Asian gold deposits.
My understanding is that this did not happen according to my sources who have You know, sources close to that area.
I never know what to make of Fulford.
I'll say that right up front.
Because sometimes he's spot on and other times, you know, if it was a baseball analogy, sometimes he puts it right over the plate and other times he must be out somewhere in the parking lot.
It's that all over the place.
Right.
I read that report.
I talked to my sources.
I was told that the ETZDs were monitoring it very closely.
They have the whole planet under very tight surveillance network right now to the point where they probably wouldn't miss a sneeze.
They were definitely monitoring it.
My ground contacts tell me that Uh, you know, China claims several islands that the Philippines also claim.
China sent in a bunch of ships.
The Philippine Navy is not equal to the Chinese Navy or even a significant detachment of the Chinese Navy.
It called for help.
The U.S.
is an ally of the Philippines.
It sent in about Eight ships, mostly destroyers.
I believe there was a frigate in there.
There was a standoff for a time, and then the Chinese backed off.
Whether there really was cabal activity intended to retrieve gold per the scenario that the cabal's running out of money, I couldn't say.
But there definitely were naval forces in the vicinity, Chinese and U.S.
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John, are you still there?
Oh yes.
Okay, very good.
So we've got, as I said, people asking questions here in the chat, and Wanting to to sort of see what's going on one person is asking about the ghost cities in China Do you know anything about that and can you relate that to the ETS?
Mmm.
I know what the ghost cities are in China because I happen to see something several years ago about it They thought they were going to have this Gigantic real estate boom and so they overbuilt and so they have these huge centrally planned cities that have nobody in them.
I'm not quite sure how they got into that position, but I haven't heard anything at all tying it to the ETCDs.
Okay, fine.
Let's see, in terms of these 1,000 missiles that you say were, I guess, taken offline in China, right?
No, taken, as in physically removed, as in carried off and destroyed.
Okay, and I also noticed that you say that, I mean, you do understand that that's kind of hard to believe, right?
Well, but is it any harder to believe than that somebody can waltz into S4 and carry off flying saucers out of one of the most highly secured pieces of real estate in the world?
That happened, and that was confirmed to me by multiple ETD, multiple stellar races, if you would, and by people with the clearances to tell me what happened.
So if you and we're also talking about submarines that have been snatched up where there's a long history of UFOs meddling with missiles on both sides.
Missile launchers being melted, missiles being reprogrammed, missiles being taken.
Well, okay.
Now, I hear you.
What I'm wondering, just in terms of, you know, your situation, because you've been in this situation where you're getting information kind of in both ears, if you will.
Yeah, that's a fair analogy.
And one has to say at some point that sometimes, you know, knowing that there's a great deal of mind control, knowing that there's a great deal of deception out there, that one has to sort of question, one would assume you at times would question some of the information coming to you.
Do you have any reason to distrust Or have you ever been given any reason to distrust, for example, your Earth-based contacts?
Do you think that they might have a vested interest in taking you off track, for example?
No, I don't.
These are very highly trusted contacts.
And there are circles of highly trusted contacts as well.
And there has been concern expressed regarding whether or not I might be being led down the Primrose path by the ETs 's, E.D.' 's in part because there's been a lot of talk and not much perceived action.
On the other hand, what I'm finding is that When we get in a jam, I get a call.
We, the United States, say, I get a call informing there's a problem and, you know, asking if the EGZDs can help.
So it's like, on the one hand, some could argue, well, you know, where's the beef?
Where's the proof?
Well, If the proof is suppressed, on the one hand, as was the case with the disappearance of the suicide boats, in broad daylight, by the way, you know, they're coming at the tankers and then, poof, they're gone.
Or, poof, something breaks, you know, is lost on sonar or what have you.
You know, when that many people see something, you have to pay attention to what's going on there.
But I've had to learn the hard way a certain high degree of non-attachment, because the ETZDs don't work the same way we do.
We are stuck in the linear time model, and they're on an event-driven model.
And the forces are not unlimited.
They're much, much larger now than they were when I first got into this, but they're still not unlimited.
And it's easier for the bad guys to cause a problem that requires a reaction than it is to just go about what needs to be done to free the planet.
So what you wind up with is a situation in which There are things that they would be doing, but then a crisis comes up.
Like, you know, right now, Fukushima number four is requiring a significant response.
By the E-T-Z-Ds in order to prevent a lot of casualties and fatalities, let's face it, from occurring.
Okay, can you elaborate on that situation a bit more?
What exactly are they saying?
Are they saying it's melting down?
What are they doing, etc.? ?
I've just been told that they're on top of it, that multiple groups are working on it, that they're reducing radiation levels and things of that sort, but we didn't get into the specifics.
The groups that I primarily deal with are all about killing Reptoids, Greys, and Dracos, destroying their bases, Wrecking the New World Order and instituting certain changes that need to be instituted so that we can be truly free.
I mean, you know, with all due respect, if that's actually what they were really doing, then one would think that their job would be nearly done at this point.
I'm wondering if there is a sort of a point at which, you know, you're getting information, in other words, the means by which you're getting information, for example, Do you go into meditation and get information that way, or are you contacting your people that are basically going into some kind of, you know, self-induced trance or whatever, and downloading information and or, you know, channeling?
I mean, what is the procedure?
Well, I mean, it's laid out in the FAQ on my site, but I can either Just by concentrating on it and putting up some screens to make sure nothing else intrudes into the process, I can talk to them as easily as I can talk to you if I'm run down.
It hurts.
It gives me a headache almost immediately.
But I also deal with people who have these same abilities and so I get information relayed from them as well.
Okay.
Or I might be talking to one and then I would talk to say the ground contingent for one of the groups and there are people on the planet who are associated with them, let's say, and they can see into the higher dimensions, like, okay, this is what I got.
You know, take a look and tell me whether the head's going up and down or side to side, you know, like nodding yes or shaking no, you know, to make sure that I got it right, because You know, I don't always.
I'm not always super acute mentally or necessarily in the greatest shape to receive information.
But it comes in, when it comes in, and it's almost like, you know, you get a ringing.
I don't get a ringing, but there's a definite physiological mechanism that tells me that somebody's trying to talk to me telepathically.
But I don't channel these beings.
I don't go anywhere.
My body doesn't reshape.
It's not like when Rob Tha occupies Jay-Z night in a channeling session.
It's nothing like that at all.
I look like me.
I sound like me.
I have full memory of everything.
I just talk to them in my head.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Are you familiar with Ashian and Dean's work with the Galactic Group, the Alliance?
I know of it in the very vaguest and most limited of terms, because I've been so busy doing what I've been doing.
Sure.
Have you heard about Meta... It's an extension of... I'm presuming it's a she.
You know, in the comments that I get on my site, but I haven't had time to delve into it.
Okay.
Are you familiar with something called Metatron?
I've heard of Metatron.
I believe that's one of those channeled entities.
Okay, well, it's a bit more than that.
Have you heard that there is a sort of switch going on right now and it's kind of, you might call it a robotic frequency?
Okay, no.
Okay.
Well, all right.
Maybe if we talk again, perhaps you might check into all of that and see what your contacts tell you about that.
I've got somebody asking another question here in regard to cloning technologies and the dark cabal.
Are you aware that they've replaced various government leaders with clones?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Do you know which ones?
I know of some of them, but... Alright, for example... What you've got is several different things, okay?
The classical clone is a case where the Greys or whoever catch somebody in the Astral
Frighten the person to the point where, I mean, they basically say, okay, this gigantic spider, think Shelob in Lord of the Rings, okay, is going to bite you unless you give up your soul.
So if you give up your soul, well, then they trap the soul matrix and everything, and they take the parts of it that they want, and they use that to Run the clone, and they cripple other parts of it so that the clone is controllable.
And now we've got clones making clones, which makes life really interesting.
That's one part of it.
And a lot of those facilities have been destroyed.
So there'll be a running down of that.
If the clones don't get back in for recharges, rather like the Borg on Star Trek Deep Space they start to fall apart.
But you also have doubles, and the doubles are recognizable by fairly pronounced scars on the scalp.
They have, as I understand it, a fair amount of hardware in their heads.
The clones don't really have much in the way of hardware, but the doubles do.
And the doubles are there, you know, so that the needs of state and whatnot can be met, and yet beings can, you know, have time at home or whatever, or simply be some other place.
And, uh, you know, Eisenhower had a double during World War II, but not with, you know, stuff in the head, but somebody who looked like Eisenhower was running around.
And Montgomery had a double.
In fact, somebody wrote a book called I Was Monty's Double.
So, okay, well, yes, and of course we all know that there were, you know, I don't know, seven, eight, or nine, at least, Hitler's supposedly running around.
That's not quite what I don't think the person's asking.
Right.
Are you aware of the, because there's actually information, I think Ray Allen is also written about this in
On her side, and there's another individual who's actually written a novel about it, although it's, I guess, fiction based on fact, that the Russians basically cloned a lot of the leaders and substituted the clones for the actual Western leaders at some point.
I don't know if you've heard that story.
Okay, I hadn't heard that, but I do know the Russians have the cloning technology.
It's an outgrowth of some medical technology they were provided by ETD, allies of theirs, and they figured out how to do a lot more, shall we say, than regrowing a limb.
Others got it from, I would say, the Grays.
Okay, but specifically, are you trying to avoid saying which leaders that you're aware of might be cloned, or have you been told specifics?
Okay, we've got a break, so we'll leave that cliffhanger question up in the air until we get back with John Kettler.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
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This is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and I am talking to John Kettler, and we actually only have about 10, 15 minutes left in the show, John.
So, right before the break, I asked you if you knew which of the leaders, world leaders, and maybe specifically the ones in the United States, for the interest of the listening Audience at the moment, which is primarily in the United States, do you happen to know if any of those are clones?
Some of them are, but right now I don't remember which ones, so I don't want to say, some of those are clones, and next thing I know I'm sort of legal papers.
Okay.
Well, it's going to be a hard thing to... You know, it's one of those things where they can't really prove that they're not a clone because if they talked about trying to prove they're not a clone, in other words, you'd have to admit that they could clone a human in such a way that it would be sort of hard to argue.
Yeah, there are other complications too.
You can't...
If you had somebody or some way of displaying auras, a clone has only a head aura rather than a full body aura.
So if you did Kirlian photography, that would reveal it.
If you've got a dead clone, you've got a problem because genetically it's identical to the master body, if you would.
So that doesn't help at all.
It's a tough problem.
There are more questions and nobody has called in.
I do want to say that we have a call in line just in case right before the end of the show here.
I guess the access number is 218-339-8525, and it's also on the American Freedom Radio station at any rate.
But if you talk about clones, you know, because it's all very good to talk about clones, but really what one needs to talk about when we're talking about clones is, do they, basically, are they more controllable than sort of your average dumb human, you know, - Oh yeah. - For all intents and purposes.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Well, that's exactly right.
And so it's kind of more that sort of motivation that goes on behind why you would make a clone as opposed to simply allow the human to be controlled, by which lots of humans are controlled.
They're not cloned.
They're simply You know, they sort of haven't really evolved the ability to withstand a certain amount of mind control or a substantial amount of mind control in the case of government leaders.
All right, well, we'll sort of stay tuned for your answer on that at some point in the future if you ever get information a little more specific.
How about overseas?
Any information on those world leaders?
Well, as a general rule, you can say that people in positions of power or influence, to include pop singers and whatnot, are often clones.
Okay?
Because they are used to influence the mass mind, the mass perception, Things of that sort.
So you don't want them running amok.
You want them, you know, doing whatever it is that it's been decided needs to be done.
Promoting a certain set of social values or anti-values, for example.
Okay.
Pushing a certain kind of agenda that happens to just magically erode the Constitution would be another example.
Alright, well let me sort of shift gears here right near the end.
You say on one of your articles that Pakistan is going to quote-unquote get a visit.
And you state that they were involved to some degree in the Venezuelan missile crisis.
Yeah.
In what way were they involved in that missile crisis?
My understanding was they supplied the materials for dirty bomb warheads for the missiles that were supplied by North Korea.
Okay, and you probably heard that Pakistan just tested a ballistic missile that's capable of carrying a nuke, right?
Mm-hmm.
I've got that information today, in fact.
Okay, and I believe India did it the day before.
It's kind of been, you know, sort of... Yeah, well... One-upmanship.
If you've read my book, you know I don't lie at wake nights worrying overly much about India's nuclear arsenal because it doesn't really have one.
Okay.
Well, yes.
And I actually haven't read your book.
I would love to do so.
And so I should do that.
Absolutely.
One of the little bombshells in there is that India does not actually have a working nuke.
It's been faking it.
Okay, is it possible that you could be mistaken?
Or are you convinced that that's the case?
I'm speaking from a scientific and technical intelligence standpoint.
When a nuclear detonation occurs, a certain set of detectable by our Nuclear detection satellites, certain set of phenomena occur, and when they did their nuclear tests, we've never seen those phenomena occur.
They did not light the bells, or light the lights and ring the bells on the satellites, so to speak.
Okay, and this was as of what year?
Okay, well...
Mid 2000s, I think, but I am unaware of any nuclear test since in which any different result was obtained.
India has spent a fortune on its ballistic missile force, but from everything that we can tell, does not have a single working nuke.
Or falsified.
They used large amounts of high explosives and probably, in my view, to make it look good they probably put some radioactive compounds in the test hole and things like that.
But they did not have The nuclear detonation phenomenology that our integrated orbiting or operational nuclear detection system satellites, which are on GPS and also on the Defense Support Program satellites, pick up.
So it inevitably follows that if the phenomenology does not register When there's supposed to be a nuclear detonation, there is no nuclear detonation.
So you can claim whatever you want and get some leverage from that, but it's a bluff.
Right, I hear you.
Alright, and you did say Pakistan, again, is going to quote-unquote get a visit.
Do you know what that, what does that entail?
I mean, is that something, you know, that sort of like sounds like a threat.
No, that's a promise.
That is a promise.
Pakistan is on several no-no lists for things it's done.
It was involved with the Venezuelan missile thing.
It was involved with another thing.
It failed to properly secure its nukes, so two of them were stolen.
And that figures in that destruction of the Reptoid mothership story that I wrote.
The nukes were stolen.
Our intelligence said it looked like they were trying to get them into Russia to blow up major Russian cities in reprisal for Chechnya and whatnot.
The AT-ZVs got them back and used them in a very clever way against Reptoid ships that had come through the Stargate.
So, there's that, and there's some other things that I can't really go into, but suffice it to say, Pakistan has stepped on things it shouldn't have stepped on repeatedly and at length, and I wouldn't be surprised if the ETVDs went in and took the entire Pakistani nuclear arsenal, what's left of it.
Because they've taken some of it in the past, and as I said, two nukes were stolen, so they're not doing a very good job of babysitting these things.
And so they may just take them all away.
If you recall, I wrote posts where it was specifically stated that one of the objectives of the liberation forces was the denuclearization of the Middle East.
And this is very much a part of that objective.
I understand.
Okay.
Are you aware of the heating up of hostilities and all the sort of pronouncements in the news with regard to Syria?
And are you seeing any activity over there?
And are you getting any intel from either sources, whether it's ETD or your intelligence sources?
Well, the Russians have a substantial presence over there.
Okay.
Advanced equipment, some of which I'm told is in the science fiction range.
Their latest front-line aircraft.
Okay.
Ground combat.
Listen, I'm very sorry, John.
I would love to hear more about this.
We are out of time here and I'm going to thank you very much.
If you want to give us a website, just You've got a moment to say your website, if you don't mind.
Certainly, it's JohnKettler.com.
Okay, and thank you.
And you can get there with www.
or without it.
Thank you so much, John, for coming on the show.
I'm very sorry we crossed wires, but you've been a great sport, and I really appreciate it.
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