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03/28/2012 - Jim Stone

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	There is a Jaguar Outside my door.
	Stretched out in her hat, waiting for more.
	Strange shade of stump, deep cat eye green.
	No way to escape.
	No one hears my scream.
	Hi there.
	Here's the class of the Project Hamlock.
	This is Laura Radio.
	And we are going to have a very interesting show tonight.
	We've got an investigative reporter, Jim Stone, on the line and he is doing this under some duress from a remote location.
	And his link to his site is on the front page of my website, which is of course ProjectCamelot.org or ProjectCamelotPortal.com.
	Those links take you to the same place.
	Look for the radio show icon and announcement.
	And you'll see the link to his site.
	He's got an amazing amount of information on his website.
	We're going to kind of let Jim take the lead as to where he wants to basically take us today.
	We're going to look into Fukushima, the information he's got in regard to that incident, and many other things.
	So, Jim, how are you doing?
	Oh, I'm doing okay.
	Can you hear me?
	Yeah, I can hear you fine.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to get a couple of links integrated onto the front page here.
	Hold on, I gotta... Okay, I figured out why that one didn't work.
	Okay.
	Okay, we are live on the radio right now.
	Okay.
	It would be great if you just... You had initially contacted me wanting to talk about the grid.
	And the fact that it was going to be delinked.
	What has happened to our electrical system?
	A lot of listeners know what the grid is and how it's connected from coast to coast.
	And the way that I knew that they were going to delink the grid was they said that clocks were going to run on the East Coast faster than they were going to run on the West Coast.
	This can only happen if the grid is no longer connected because as soon as you have any kind of a frequency difference, you'll end up with a phase mismatch between the coasts and the grid will basically short out and shut down.
	And they went into specifics on the report that, like, Texas is going to run faster than Massachusetts, and Massachusetts was going to run slower than Arkansas, so I knew that they weren't just delinking it between the D.C.
	lines, which you can have opposite ends of the D.C.
	lines, but at different frequencies.
	What has happened, then, is the reason why this would be done is to weaken this country in a war.
	Um, if you have the grid delinked, what it means is that...
	attack, take out a power company in Texas, it means that Maryland can't feed them power anymore.
	It means they can't get power out of Colorado.
	It means they go dark and they're gone.
	The American grid, the way it was hooked up, was a miracle of power stability.
	I remember as an electrician many, many five-year stretches where the power never even glitched once.
	Um, now that the grid has been delinked, I noticed, uh, within the first few months of that, um, you know, three or four substantial power outages, lasting minutes, and numerous glitches.
	Um, this would mean, like, you'd have to go back to your stove and reset the clock.
	Um, and, uh...
	Okay, Jim, I'm going to interrupt you here because we needed you to give sort of an introduction to yourself.
	I have given you a brief introduction.
	What I'd really like you to do is talk a little bit about your background, how you got to where you are today.
	Okay, well, early on in life I worked for the National Security Agency and that's where I got my education on the technical side.
	Um, when, uh, um, in, uh, 1992, um, I realized that there was a major problem, um, with our country and the way it was running.
	Um, I realized there was a problem in the universities and that set me on, on a major trail trying to uncover who was causing the problems in this country, um, who was ripping it apart, who was enslaving us financially, who was writing all the crazy laws, and I have spent You know, 20 years since then, getting to the bottom of the story.
	I spent two years inside the Jewish community and uncovered a whole bunch of garbage there.
	You know, and I had gotten, I had made a whole bunch of discoveries, but I had gotten really lazy about publishing them.
	I was just thinking, well, I'll do it next year.
	I'll do it next year.
	I'll do it next year.
	And then Fukushima happened.
	And when those reactors exploded, I knew, because of my technical background, that there was no way that that could happen.
	So I began to look into the Fukushima issue.
	And if you go on my website, and the page that I've linked to is just gemstonefreelance.com, but if you go forward slash Fukushima1.html, My investigation of Fukushima is on that page.
	I got my hands on all the classified information.
	I interviewed the reactor engineers that actually designed and built Fukushima.
	I did an in-depth investigation into the earthquake and the realities of that.
	And it ended up being an absolutely massive report that took 500 hours.
	But if you go there, you're going to see, first of all, Japan never had a 9.0.
	And that's pretty well proven by the fact that That no buildings collapsed on Sendai.
	If you look at all the tsunami videos, that tsunami is ripping through cities that are completely unscathed by an earthquake.
	So, let me ask you, if it didn't have an earthquake, what's your position?
	What did it do?
	Well, obviously, I don't know if any of your readers have ever heard of Joe Bial's.
	I have a link to one of his articles that he did on Indonesia and that tsunami there, which was originally reported as a 6.3 earthquake, then it got bumped to like an 8, then it got bumped to a 9.1 for tsunami effects.
	Well, it turns out that when you have a Richter scale, you know, your seismogram, those can be up by a percent.
	They can't be off by orders of magnitude, and they can't be off by three orders of magnitude.
	So it's impossible to get a reading off of a seismogram that, you know, you can't get a 9.0 reading off of a seismogram for an earthquake that was a 6.3.
	Well, India got onto this, and And studied the size of the grounds and they determined that it was a nuclear weapon that set it off.
	And they also captured the EMP signature of that nuclear detonation which happened off the coast of Indonesia.
	And if you read the Joe Vial's report, that's not my report.
	You go into it, you'll find out that something was really fishy there.
	And so what we have now with Fukushima and nuclear weapons being set off in the ocean there, ...is a new form of terrorism.
	We had... I'm sure that your listeners are well aware of false flag terror in the name of Arabs, in the name of whatever country they want the false flag terror to be blamed on.
	People got way too familiar with this.
	And they were looking, you know, right immediately, internet investigations that go underway, saying, well, who really caused this?
	We know that was a false flag.
	So the next method of the elite, then, was to cause these terror attacks and get the job done in the name of the environment.
	Yeah, and I agree with you.
	Actually, I have whistleblower testimony that told me that there was a nuke planted actually underneath Fukushima.
	That's what I was told.
	Yeah, I got it.
	I got the company that planted it.
	I got the reason they planted it.
	I got everything.
	It's all in the picture.
	And what about Stuxnet?
	Because Stuxnet and the Israelis factor into this, isn't that right?
	Yes.
	Israel wrote a virus called Stuxnet.
	And this virus was specifically designed to go in and attack industrial control systems And, uh, what it does is it makes everything go haywire on the machinery while keeping all the readouts that the operators can see normal.
	And the machine can go totally haywire.
	Stuxnet will go into a system and learn what normal looks like.
	So it sits there in idle mode for months or however long they want it to learn the system.
	In the case of Fukushima, Stuxnet was planted in that system for about four months.
	They had learned that when the operators pull the control rods out, that the temperatures are going to drop at this rate, in this way, that when they put them in, it's going to rise in this way, the pressures are going to rise, the turbines are going to speed up, or not speed up, but put out X amount of current.
	So Stukes and I sat there and learned everything that the operators at that facility did.
	Over a four-month period.
	The company that planted it was called Magna BSP.
	I mean, I have them nailed.
	I got a picture of the nuclear weapon that they planted in the facility.
	What they did was they sat there in Israel, they triggered this tsunami, and they sat there in Israel waiting for the tsunami to hit.
	The reactors did automatically scram right when the earthquake hit because it's like, These nuclear facilities are set up to be inherently safe.
	So if anything, like, seismically happens, or anything electrically happens, the reactors automatically go into standby mode.
	And this happened in Fukushima.
	Well, what happened about 40 minutes after, when the tsunami hit, is they shut off the generators.
	They managed to get a remote internet link into the reactor room, and this was reported in the Jerusalem Post.
	This company, Magna BSP, which had its unrealistically huge nuke camera inside the Fukushima facility, also got an internet connection to that camera and to the guts of that facility that was in place all the way through the disaster.
	And they used, you know, either Stuxnet ran on automatic mode until everything blew up, or they administered Stuxnet until everything blew up, but...
	Oh, anyway.
	So what happened exactly, because you were kind of giving a blow-by-blow and then you stopped, what happened when the tsunami hit?
	What exactly happened inside the reactor?
	You're saying it had already gone offline or whatever, as you say, but then what happened when the tsunami hit?
	Where was the nuke?
	Was the nuke before or after the tsunami?
	If you go to the links page, let's see here.
	I have that.
	If you go to the Fukushima page, as I understand that better.
	I'm on your site.
	So it's gemstonefreelance.com forward slash Fukushima dot html.
	Right.
	I mean Fukushima one dot html.
	Fukushima dot html is Japanese.
	That's no fun.
	But what are you saying?
	Are you saying... I'm just asking you, can you just tell me what, you know, for the listeners' purposes, the ones especially listening without, you know, internet access at this time, can you explain, did the nuke hit before or after the tsunami?
	Oh, this is way after the tsunami.
	It took them a long time to get reactor three to act up in a way that was convincing.
	The camera was specifically designed to give them radiation readings and temperature readings off the reactor.
	So they knew when enough mayhem had broken loose to provide plausibility for an explosion, and they set it off.
	If you look at -- Oh, wow.
	If you look at -- it says this is a massive and technical report.
	If you have trouble understanding it, just look at this classified picture of the Vantage Reactor.
	You click on the Vantage Reactor link and it'll pull up a diagram, or a, you know, a little bit of a diagram of the guts of Fukushima and how it's put together.
	I've got an arrow pointing to where they had the, uh, the nuclear weapon placed.
	If you scroll down to the bottom of this picture, You will see an actual photograph of the actual nuke they got into Fukushima.
	It's right down at the bottom of that picture.
	It was disguised as a stereoscopic camera.
	I have two diagrams of gun tape nuclear weapons up against this thing that they got in there.
	It's obviously a match.
	Yeah, and I have gone over this information, I guess, long before I contacted you.
	So, my question to you is, with this information in hand, what do you think is happening?
	In other words, you're documenting this quite well, and I think other people are too.
	I think I've come across it a few different places.
	So, what do you think?
	In other words, it came out of, basically, it was an Israeli false flag, right?
	Yes, this is a false flag.
	It was done specifically for two reasons.
	The main one that really, really got the Israelis worked up and mad at Japan was the offer to enrich uranium for Iran.
	Well, you know what they did to Iran's nuclear program, and Iran managed to get over it.
	But Japan was a lot more vulnerable because they actually had a functioning, working reactor that this virus got into.
	Um, when this virus hit Iran, they were months away from starting up.
	So really, nothing could really happen.
	It got in, messed up their controls, it blew up a few centrifuges, and that was the end of it.
	In Japan, where we had perfectly working reactors that were going full bore, and then got shut down, and were fully fueled, I mean, you got a totally different scenario there.
	Um... Okay.
	Now, would you say, and because there's an interesting link here you've got on your site that says, does the Department of Homeland Security, is it trying to keep American industries in the dark about Stuxnet?
	That's an interesting question.
	I'd like to go into that.
	Well, okay.
	Well, I don't want to leave this subject here, though, that we're dealing with in terms of the ramifications of of Israel actually going in.
	Do you think that Israel was acting alone?
	It's much more likely to think that they're acting... It's sad to say that other countries most likely were involved.
	I got plenty of reports of the US Navy being out there over the Japan trench where the nukes went off.
	If you scroll down on the Fukushima page, I've got the real epicenter for the earthquake And I've got the epicenter that the media reported.
	The real epicenter for this earthquake was 60 miles inland.
	The epicenter the media reported was 24 miles off the closest peninsula in the Japan Trench.
	The entire thing was a fabrication.
	Anyway, I got a little bit sidetracked here.
	Okay, I'm sorry, we have a commercial right now.
	We're going to come right back with Jim Stone.
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	We are going to go into some other details about the Fukushima Disaster.
	But before we do that, I just want to, you know, I was talking to Jim off during the break, and I just want to clarify his background at the NSA.
	What exactly he was doing over there, as much as he is able to say, and I understand most of it's classified, of course.
	So, so, so, Jim, can you can you tell me what your title was or some or designation?
	Well, it was Electronic Warfare Intercepts Strategic Signal Processing Storage Systems Repair.
	It was basically the highest level in there.
	We didn't really do any development of new systems, but we were the people where if we got a black box that no one knew about and no one was trained about, we were expected to figure out what it was, what it did, and then make it work.
	We were that type of people.
	There were very, very few of us in the NSA.
	Anyway, that's all I'm going into.
	Okay, I appreciate that.
	Would you consider... And then afterwards, it's important for people to know that after I got out, I went to work in industry in the controllers and the automated systems, and I was very well acquainted with the type of control systems that were out of Fukushima.
	I knew it was possible.
	When I interviewed the The reactor engineers had actually designed Fukushima.
	They were absolutely blown away by how much I knew without being told, you know, because I was telling them details about their system level.
	How do you know that?
	Well, once you get qualified to a certain level, you pretty much know pretty much anything about any system, so...
	And then also, I did plenty of study, and I got the goods.
	I got the training manuals and things like this for Fukushima, so I really got a good understanding of how the thing was put together.
	Okay, I appreciate that.
	So, basically, you also said something about robotics, working in robotics.
	Well, all of these systems that you have in industry are automated.
	You know, as far as robotics go, I mean, you've got your optical encoders and you've got your distance sensors and all this other stuff.
	And it doesn't matter if the machine is something that weighs 100,000 pounds or it's something dainty that will fit in your hand or whatever.
	All the basics for those types of machines are the same.
	The ones that I worked on were in the steel industry.
	Automatic feeders for getting the exact amounts of right materials added.
	Getting the right position on a crucible so it wouldn't spill.
	No, I mean, it was, there are so many things that go on, you know, the right chemistry coming out of the smokestack and all this other stuff.
	Sure.
	And then all of this stuff gets controlled by a central brain that's looking at it.
	Okay, it looks like somebody's messing with me.
	Pretty much everything that's in a steel mill is in place at a different facility.
	Okay, yeah.
	It looks like your sound is being messed with a little bit here.
	So, I'm just going to ask you... Anything that's in place.
	The steel mill.
	Oh, really?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Jim?
	Hello?
	Yeah, can you hear me?
	Yes, I can hear you.
	Okay, great.
	Yeah, we're just having a little bit of sound trouble there.
	I just want to ask you whether or not... Okay, I'll speak slowly.
	You were capable of looking at also, you know, it sounds like you said electronic warfare division, so you were capable of understanding Stuxnet, is that correct?
	Because I'm told it's a pretty sophisticated virus.
	Yeah, well, all you have to do is realize that it's a virus that can fake anything.
	And then you have to understand how the pumps work, how the valves work, and everything in the steel industry.
	When you're dealing with a big blast furnace, or a big cube op, or a big thing that can explode if it doesn't get in its cooling water, all the same safety systems are in place.
	The battery backups, the backup generators, a steel mill will explode if it loses power and things go down.
	It's a very, very similar type danger and a similar type setup, except that when things do explode in a steel mill, you don't have this That's stupid.
	I never had an explosion.
	Okay.
	Now, before I go on, I want to ask you, are you still a patriot?
	I love America very much.
	It is my home.
	I love the people there.
	But America has been taken over by a criminal I've been run out of the country under threat of my life.
	I can't be there.
	It was my intention to stick around with that nation and be through the thick of it all, but after having a tense meet on my life and being jailed twice over the Fukushima report and receiving numerous threats, I had to leave.
	I had no choice.
	I did not want to leave that country.
	I got hurt a lot there.
	A lot of people are getting hurt right now in America, but you've got to realize Those of you who are suffering and have been hurt by the various systems in that country, That this is not the American system that's in place there.
	What we have in place in America is a system that a conquering nation, a conquering people have put in place to slam that nation into the ground and destroy it once and for all.
	That's what's happening there.
	And you have to realize you cannot really be angry with America.
	You have to be angry with the people who have usurped the power in that country and are putting it on a path to destruction.
	Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
	I love my country and I'm very sad that it had to go this way, but I can't be there anymore.
	I just can't.
	Okay, Jim, what I want to do at this point... Okay, for a reference into what has happened to me, I've got that on my site.
	That story is there.
	If you go to the front page and you type a link, My Experience with a Jewish Community, all that stuff is on that page.
	All the death threats, everything that's happened to me is on that page.
	So if you want to go up, but it's a pretty big page and it's a pretty big distraction and I prefer to stay on topic.
	Okay, no problem.
	So let's go back to topic now and I appreciate you detailing your background a bit more there for people because I really wanted them to understand just exactly who you are and how very capable you are.
	Let me ask you this before you start detailing a little more detail in terms of Fukushima.
	You have the ability, from a technical standpoint, to evaluate these systems.
	This has given you knowledge.
	Sounds like you've interviewed some people to deal with the Fukushima disaster.
	Do you have insiders giving you information as well?
	I mean, where else are your sources coming from?
	You know, the whole thing happened because Because I knew that Fukushima couldn't blow up.
	The way that the safety systems and the boiling water reactor setup are designed, you can take that system, rip all the generators out of it, rip the entire reactor and all of its associated passive safety systems and throw it in the ocean.
	And bury it under 10,000 feet of water and the thing will sit there and run safely until it rusts through.
	That's the way those systems are designed.
	One thing that I got, there are a couple of things that I learned in my interviews with these reactor engineers.
	They specifically stated that the Japanese were absolutely crazy about making their systems safe.
	And this guy, I can't give his name out because he wanted to be unnamed, Who actually designed the reactors at Fukushima.
	He said that they went nuts with that facility.
	He said they put backup, after backup, after backup, after backup in that facility to prevent any disaster from happening.
	And he said, he said it was unnecessary.
	He said it was crazy.
	And he said, The reason why they did it was because they knew that they were living on an island and they wanted every possible insurance they could have to make sure that they would have absolutely no problems with that facility.
	Fascinating.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	When you get a virus into a system that closes valves that are supposed to open automatically and forces them to stay shut, And then puts the control rods in and guns the reactor to max while all the turbines are offline.
	Well, you're going to have major problems with that.
	That's exactly what happened out of Fukushima.
	Okay, let's talk about the meltdown aspect of this because it's not just one reactor, right?
	We're talking several?
	Now what I want people to do is I fixed the links on the front page and the links are also on the Fukushima page.
	I want you to click the link that says Fukushima from above and I want to go over a couple of things here.
	This is the killer.
	Um, these are classified photos.
	It said that a concerned, uh, engineer posted to, uh, Pink Chemical.
	They're still there.
	Um, it's a big mistake.
	Uh, these are not supposed to be online.
	Um, they're more detailed than anything you'll find anywhere.
	And if you look on, uh, on, uh, on the Fukushima from above photo... I gotta get this, uh, this Skype window is messing me up.
	And I can't... Oh, hold on.
	I gotta get this.
	Okay.
	If you scroll to the Fukushima from above, on the upper left-hand corner, there is a box that says, TEPCO stated that Reactor 4 was defueled and had no core in it, and was undergoing replacement of its internal shroud.
	All the wackos said it was enriching plutonium because it blew up.
	This picture clearly shows, and when you look at this picture you can really clearly see it, and this is why these pictures are not out in the public.
	If you look in the upper right-hand corner of this facility where the first green arrow is pointing, you can see that there's a yellow dome sitting there with a cross-linked jib that the cross, you can see the jib that the crane hooks up to, that dome was off that reactor.
	And then, you can look straight down at the throat of the reactor and see that it's completely empty as TEPCO stated.
	Well, what this means then, these walls on this containment structure are more than four feet thick.
	Solid concrete.
	So, what blew them out?
	What on earth was in that facility?
	If the reactor didn't do it, and the fuel pool couldn't do it, there's no way the fuel pool can do it, If the reactor didn't do it, and hydrogen couldn't have done it, what did it?
	Why?
	So what we have here is Building 7 on 9-11, which collapsed at the World Trade Center even though nothing hit it.
	This is Fukushima's Building 7.
	You can jam it right down the throat of the official story.
	You can look at this picture.
	You know that it couldn't have blown up just by looking at what's here.
	Um, this is the most damning picture out at Fukushima.
	It is absolute proof that the... Why?
	Now, there's another picture, uh, the other super high resolution picture is Fukushima from the front.
	What I want people to look at here is Reactor 3.
	In the center of this picture, there's a, uh, there's a box that says NHK, CNN, and others have refused to show you this.
	Why?
	Because Reactor 3's dome should be sitting here And there is about 30 feet of empty air below that, where there should be a reactor.
	Reactor 3 is blown away, and that is why they won't show you this.
	Okay.
	Can you stop right there?
	So, Reactor 3 is blown away by what?
	By the nuke?
	Yes.
	This one, building number four, reactor four, they got two nukes into this facility.
	Reactor four, when the nuke went off, it wasn't under pressure because it disassembled.
	But when the nuke went off on Reactor 3, it was at at least 3,000 psi, maybe 5,000 psi.
	It was made to run at 1150 psi.
	maybe 5,000 PSI.
	It was made to run at 11, at, at, uh, 1150 PSI.
	Uh, all the, uh, emergency, uh, relief valves kick in at, uh, at 11, uh, I mean, I mean at 1050 PSI, it's designed to run at 1110.
	The, uh, the relief valves kick in.
	Those are the specifics that the reactor engineers told me.
	They said there's no way that this reactor system could possibly explode because the relief valves, unless they are told to stay shut by the control room, they will automatically open.
	And no matter how bad things get in that reactor, they will release all the steam that that fuel is capable of producing.
	So you cannot get above a certain pressure if the relief valves are not being tampered with.
	Okay, but they were being tampered with, right?
	Yes, they were being tampered with.
	So if you look on the very far right paragraph, it says, one very important point.
	Reactor 3, which is obviously missing, is still giving normal temperature and pressure readings to the control room.
	Can you still hear me?
	It's really loud.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	It's still getting normal temperature and pressure readings to the control room.
	This would not be possible absent a controller that was infected with Israel's precious Stuxnet virus, which keeps all readouts normal both until and after everything is destroyed or blown away.
	So for months, with this reactor sitting here, obviously vanishing in the picture, they were getting temperature readings, pressure readings, everything normal readings in the control room from this reactor when it wasn't even there.
	Wow.
	This is proof of the virus.
	Right there, then and there, that's absolute proof that there is a virus in that system.
	There's no way you can get around it.
	Okay, go ahead, but I do have a question for you.
	Oh yeah, I'm waiting for your question.
	Okay, what I wanted to know is did you talk to anyone who was at the location?
	The only people that I have managed to get a hold of at the location only gave me one detail and they said, and then I never heard from again, they said that immediately after the earthquake there was a Uh, the so-called earthquake.
	We're going to have to come right back with Jim Stone in this fascinating... There was a small earthquake, but it wasn't a 9.0.
	I see.
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	I can't get no relief.
	And we are listening to Jim Stone describe what's really gone on out at Fukushima.
	And with this whole disaster that we're still seeing the repercussions from Jim Stone.
	Jim, are you there?
	Yep, I'm here.
	Okay, great.
	So, right before the break, we were talking about the fact that there was no explosion, but you did contact some people out at the site, and they had one thing to say before... you started to say they had one thing to say...
	Well, what has happened, and we can go over this in the emails from Japan, is a quake was triggered.
	The peak intensity measured was a 6.67 inland.
	So it shook Fukushima a little bit, but Fukushima is designed to take an 8.1.
	So, I mean, it didn't, you know, it was, you know, a couple orders of magnitude.
	Okay, we're kind of losing you right there.
	The only thing that I, or get a really, really reliable source, so I never publish this, I got, okay, I will not publish things unless I can get it from multiple sources.
	So I did not, I did not publish this.
	I will say it on the air though, however, I got one report from one guy out of Fukushima who said, That the minute the earthquake hit, a man walked up and did some sort of update to the controllers for the reactors and ran from the facility like he was running for his life.
	Now that could be fiction.
	It kind of goes against the story about StukesNet being able to learn facility.
	That's really the only thing I heard out of there.
	I heard other stories about it.
	Let me just go down that road a little bit.
	What could that man have been doing in your estimation?
	He may have been either telling Stukesnit to switch modes and to destroy mode, but if that's the case, then what would be the reason for the Internet link into the reactor room?
	This Internet link into the reactor room, what Fukushima was spoken about in the Jerusalem Post, this isn't something that just came out of nowhere.
	Magna BSP talked to the Jerusalem Post and said that they could monitor the reactor and knew what was going on there because they had the uplink there, but quote, they weren't using it, unquote.
	Well, yeah, right.
	We have this connection in a facility that's going haywire, but we're not using it.
	It's just like, you know, we're not curious about what's going on in there to be viewed through our camera.
	No.
	You know, that's not very believable.
	Right.
	What is the bottom line in terms of... Well, the importance of this is that you never allow an internet connection into the guts of your control.
	Okay.
	We're losing you a bit.
	Are you there?
	Oh, you're breaking up.
	I can't hear you.
	Okay.
	I can hear you now.
	Okay.
	Now, what were you asking?
	What I'm asking is the effect of all of this, because you've got a nuke under Fukushima.
	What really happened to the reactor, because we have not gotten a straight story in terms of what's melting down and what isn't, etc.?
	Well, most of Reactor 3 went off into the wild blue yonder.
	If you look at the picture of Fukushima from above, you can see all the debris scattered around.
	You can see the concrete dust from Reactor 4 also.
	Reactor 3 has been blown to smithereens.
	Obviously, whatever was left has melted down, because it's got to have active cooling for it to not melt down.
	And obviously, it's not getting up.
	So Reactor 3's, whatever's left of it, went to China.
	Same thing with the fuel pools by now.
	They've got to be, you know, I mean, it's a despicable disaster.
	Can you be more specific?
	The fuel pools, what are you saying about them?
	Well, there was so much nuclear fuel out of Fukushima in those pools, that when General Electric designed these facilities, they had done something called closing the nuclear loop.
	What this means is that if the technology was allowed, The fuel was supposed to be able to be taken out of these boiling water reactors, put in a sodium-cooled breeder reactor, have all the impurities burned out of it, and then that same fuel was supposed to be able to go right back into the boiling water reactor and be used for 20 cycles before it had to go into a fuel pool.
	Well, President Jimmy Carter banned that technology.
	GE was denied the right to use it.
	Since then, that technology, the ban on it has been repealed, but the technology somehow got lost.
	They're not working on it anymore, so what has happened is, is rather than have your nuclear fuel get used 20 times and be virtually depleted, it gets used once and then put in the fuel pool.
	Well, these fuel pools weren't designed to be used that way.
	They weren't designed to have a new core go into them, you know, once every six months, or once every year.
	They're designed to have a new core go into them once every 15 years, 20 years.
	And so, if anything goes wrong with one of these fuel pools, they just go absolutely haywire.
	They start to boil their water off once the water's been boiled off, and the fuel gets hot, and then it melts, and then you've got your China Syndrome right in the fuel pool.
	At least at reactor number three, where you can obviously see that the fuel pools are totally blown away, this has got to have happened.
	I had never heard any reports that it happened.
	The logic has it that whatever fuel remained in those fuel pools, which is a lot more than what was in the reactors to begin with, has caused a secondary disaster out of Fukushima that a meltdown in a reactor could in no way match.
	Now at reactor four, where the structure was still basically intact, I'm fairly certain that these fuel pools here stayed intact, and they were able to get the water in them.
	And then in reactors 2 and 1, obviously, the systems that run those fuel pools probably stayed online.
	But Reactor 3 is the real problem.
	We're looking at many, many Chernobyls here.
	Okay, but do you think there's been a meltdown into the core?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, and do you think that Tokyo is experiencing higher than normal radiation at this time?
	I personally would probably feel safe in Tokyo, but I actually, I did the I didn't believe anything that I was hearing in the press about radiation hazards or anything like that.
	And I've got a really, really broad background.
	I mean, I can't tell you how broad.
	So I did the radiation, the safe radiation calculations on my own, on my own calculator.
	And before I went, I looked at anything because I didn't trust anyone's numbers and anyone's words, and I didn't want to be biased.
	When I came up with my own maximum safe radiation exposures, they exactly matched Russia's safe radiation exposures for Chernobyl.
	Okay, so Russia most likely is telling the truth.
	Well, Japan is not telling the truth.
	They are many, many times over what Russia calculated was safe Uh, the evacuation limit for Chernobyl.
	I mean, we're talking tenfold over.
	So we've got these Japanese people that are basking in radiation.
	Uh, their government is not being honest.
	I don't think they can be honest because, well, how do you tell these people that their nation's, you know, been severely contaminated and there's nothing they can do about it?
	Can't do anything about it.
	So you really can't blame the Japanese government for behaving the way they are.
	It's just like, what are they going to do if a hurricane strikes?
	Make the wind go away?
	They can't.
	They have suffered a major catastrophe.
	There's nothing they can do about it but live with it.
	That's all there is to it.
	And I mean, it is major.
	They have areas that they're living in now that are 10 times, 15 times, Twenty times the maximum, the complete evacuation limit for Chernobyl.
	Okay, well let me ask you this.
	Why do you think that you would feel safe in Tokyo?
	Because Tokyo actually, when you get the readings out of there, it's not that bad.
	Tokyo is like maybe one and a half times over background.
	It's really, really not that bad.
	They're probably sitting at about 3 millisieverts a year.
	Okay, and what do you feel about the way that the radiation goes?
	It certainly went out into the ocean, didn't it?
	Yeah, they're lucky.
	They're lucky the wind was blowing the way it was when that thing went off.
	Okay, but they're lucky.
	But is China lucky?
	Is Australia lucky?
	Is California lucky?
	We're talking one of the heaviest elements on Earth being blown skyward.
	That stuff doesn't stay in the air very much.
	So most of it precipitated out in the Pacific, pretty close to Japan.
	Obviously, we had a lot of the really small particles make it here.
	But even here, you know, whenever I hear about these real, real serious radiation issues happening here, when you look into it, they're talking, they're still talking millisieverts, really like below 10 millisieverts, micro sieverts.
	Sure, it's above background radiation levels, but In my opinion, there's nothing that's really happened hazardous in this country.
	Okay, what about the fishing industry, I guess, off the coast of Japan?
	Well, now we get into the issue of the ocean and how much it can soak up.
	Now, I'd imagine right off the coast of Fukushima, maybe 30 or 40 miles out, we've got some badly contaminated stuff.
	But by the time you get out to Alaska and their fisheries and the rest of the Pacific, I don't You know, I would imagine that there's, and I can't prove it, but we're talking, you can only contaminate so much with so much material, and I don't see how that could mess up the whole ocean.
	Okay, well let me ask you this.
	Is it continuing to melt down?
	I would say that Fukushima has either completely melted down and stabilized, or it's still... I don't have the answer to that.
	Oh, alright.
	Okay, we're going to come right back after the break.
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	Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot.
	Whistleblower Radio, and we're talking to Jim Stone.
	Right before, let's see, I think right before or during the break we were talking about the Mexican quake and you are in Mexico.
	Can you address all of that?
	Yes, I want to kind of move away from the Fukushima power facility and get on to the topic of false flag terror in the name of the environment.
	If you, just before we leave the Fukushima point report, I actually got the official report from the World Nuclear Association and what they said about Fukushima.
	And from the report, they specifically state the generators never got submerged, that even though the main generators failed, that they got adequate generators out there, so the entire generator story is a lie.
	If you go down The bottom below the earthquake portion of this Fukushima article, there's all the technical specifics of why what happened at Fukushima couldn't have happened.
	It's all in the bag down there.
	If you've got any technical understanding of things, go down there and read it.
	It's kind of difficult to understand, but it's very well documented.
	I'm going to get out of Mexico now.
	Right now, I'm in Mexico because I got chased out of the country over this Fukushima report.
	I had numerous attempts on my life.
	I got jailed twice.
	Okay, so I was here when this Mexico quake happened.
	So I got on the ball with it.
	In fact, I was sitting in this very Starbucks at this very table when that earthquake happened.
	And that's kind of interesting.
	This Quake, you need to go back to the very home page of GemstoneFreelance.com.
	Okay, I'm going to give you some time to get back there.
	And the very, very first link in the far right-hand column, it says, Mexico Quake Proven Man-Made.
	Click that link.
	And here we have it.
	I wrote an email to Edgar Ray at digaray.com, and one of my quotes in the mail, I said, I think it's going to be pointless to take it beyond this.
	The case is proven pretty perfectly with very little.
	It's like finding the thief with a cash drawer back in the weeds one minute after the robbery.
	Further explanation simply is not needed.
	Anyway, it's really, really good to figure out that they pulled off a false flag event in the name of the environment within hours of them doing it.
	Because here we have a link to A Mexican page where they are talking about a 7.9 earthquake drill.
	They reported this on March 13, 2012 at 941 that at high noon on March 20th that they were going to be running an earthquake safety training drill in the Chiapas district of Mexico.
	And lo and behold, at high noon in the Chiapas District, they had a 7.9 earthquake for real.
	Okay, well, if you get on to the if you're into the anything about this false flag terror, a lot of these people know that they are running a simulation of 9-11 simultaneous with the real event.
	That matched the real event.
	They are running, in the London train bombings, they are running a scenario simultaneous.
	Yes.
	Well, here we have in Mexico an exactly simultaneous scenario that matched the earthquake that occurred exactly.
	There's an advertisement produced by the Chiapas District that I have there.
	It's a very nice graphic that they did.
	Now, one thing that is really putting fuel on the fire for this is Obama's daughter was, at least from what was reported to me, was in the Chiapas district during this earthquake.
	Here we have Obama threatening, I mean, telling Israel that we're not going to war with Iran, and I think that this may have been a way to send Obama a real clear message that we had better do the bidding of the elite or this can happen.
	Interesting.
	Very interesting correlation.
	Yes.
	We have something really, really serious here, folks.
	You need to get on this site if you're not on it right now.
	And look at this link to the Mexico Quake verified man-made.
	It is a smoking gun.
	What has happened in this drill that was planned ahead of time is exactly what happened in real life.
	Now, this says a lot of things.
	It says we have an earthquake machine that we have a way to trigger earthquakes now.
	Now, I have a link to a report on the front page.
	It's also linked to in the Fukushima report, if I can't find it fast enough, where Yeah, military briefing with Secretary of Defense William Cohan.
	It's link number 16 on the front page.
	Click that, and it's going to take you to this military briefing.
	And this was done in 1997.
	It's right off the U.S.
	Department of Defense website.
	You scroll down about two-thirds of the way down the page.
	That's a massive document, so it's kind of hard to How to, uh, you know, it's kind of hard to find this, but when you get there, it says very specifically, this Cohen speaking in 1997, it says, others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of... Oh, wait a second.
	Others are engaging in even an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
	So there are plenty of genius minds out there that work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.
	It's real.
	And that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts and that's why this is so important.
	Now, the reason why this report is so important is because it's not a blurry UFO photo.
	It's not some guy spouting off about some nonsense that happened in a cornfield.
	This is the Department of Defense Secretary William Cohan speaking in an official DOD briefing And saying that this is a reality.
	Well, one thing that Cohen didn't say was that these systems that he spoke about in 1997 would have been developed by DARPA and owned by America First.
	So it's obvious, you know, that these systems do exist.
	That's a perfect explanation for why this earthquake happened in Mexico on cue.
	And now I need to get on to something really, really interesting.
	This earthquake, when it happened, was a very, very smooth movement.
	It moved east.
	Well, let me think.
	What are my orientations here?
	Yeah, it moved north, south, and east.
	A pull to the north, a pull to the south, and a pull to the east, and there was never any vibration of any sort.
	And if you look at the damage assessment that came out of Chiapas, only 800 homes collapsed there, and it was a 7.9.
	Well, in Mexico, a lot more homes than that are going to fall from a normal 7.9.
	that are going to happen, are going to fall from a normal 7.9.
	You know, a 7.9 is a pretty devastating quake.
	If you scroll down to the mails from Japan, the true perspective, and you click on that, I I have emails from Japanese readers talking about these really, really strange, gooey quakes that feel like they're standing on a spinning top, and they don't feel natural.
	These people are very experienced with feeling natural quakes in their country, and they're saying the one that they felt on the day Fukushima happened, the one that they felt the days before Fukushima happened, and all of the aftershocks after Fukushima, do not feel like the normal Japanese earthquakes.
	Well, if you've got some sort of a gravity wave pulling on the Earth and moving it and simulating an earthquake, you're going to get your movement, but you're going to be able to tell the difference between that and something that truly came from the Earth.
	One way to clue in on this earthquake machine is that these earthquakes are all originating at a depth of 10 kilometers.
	All the reports of the aftershocks, the reports of the Fukushima quake, the reports of the quakes that preceded it, and the report of the quake coming out of Mexico, all of these quakes happen at 10 kilometer depth with consistency.
	Here it says right here, I've been checking the USGS.
	This is a writer from Japan writing to me.
	It says, I have been checking the USGS regularly and noticed there are a lot of depth 10 kilometer quakes.
	The 311 and the 411 are both depth 10 kilometers.
	Do you have any idea what this means?
	Scale or weapon?
	Harp or just coincidence?
	These are Japanese people saying this.
	So they know there's something wrong.
	They know that there's something wrong. - Okay, well, I actually have to tell you that I was in Belize during the Mexican quake, and I have a quake, I'm a nurse sensitive, I can feel quakes in my feet before they happen.
	And I have to say that the night after the Mexican quake, I had like the worst night of my life, feeling a very, very tremendous amount of vibration, but it's like hidden vibration, So that actually, what this person is saying in this letter is exactly the constant vibration idea.
	This is exactly right, what was happening during the Mexican quake.
	And here's another testimony out of Japan.
	March 9th, early afternoon, I was in a doctor's office with my dad, who was in a wheelchair.
	I was standing, then I felt dizziness.
	I looked up on the ceiling and found things were swaying.
	Nobody said it was a quake.
	I would explain it as standing on a big wobbling top.
	It was slow and not vertical nor horizontal.
	It was a magnitude 7.4.
	And my comment is, if no one said it was a quake and the Japanese are familiar with the quakes, what is this motion which caused a seismic reading of 7.4?
	I believe now that the earthquake machine places stress on a region with a circular pull, thus creating the spinning top feeling to pull it of all potential weak spots in all directions with a hope of triggering something big.
	Very interesting.
	Yeah, it actually sounds like Possibly.
	It's got another objective besides just being a quake.
	And I'm not sure where that's going.
	I don't know if we're talking about moving the magnetic poles or trying to affect the magnetic poles.
	You know, I don't know enough about science to say what creating... But if you do create something that is circular, that is a vortex, that is tolroidal kind of a situation going on... You're going to trigger anything that could happen.
	Okay.
	Because you're pulling in all possible directions.
	Okay.
	Everything's broken up.
	I can't hear you.
	Okay, I can hear you fine.
	You're coming through loud and clear.
	Okay.
	I want the readers to go back to the, uh, the, uh, Fukushima, uh, the, the, the, uh, the Fukushima page.
	You can either type Fukushima, gemstonefreelancefukushima.html or scroll to the link on the homepage that says Fukushima sabotage.
	We're going to go over the quake now.
	We went, we already went over Fukushima.
	We're going to go over the oddities of this quake.
	I've got all the seismic records.
	I've got videos of the quake out of there.
	Um, I want to scroll down.
	If you scroll about a third of the way down to the page, you're going to see a picture that says, what everyone failed to notice, absolutely no quake damage on anything as the tsunami rolls in.
	Right.
	And if you look at these pictures, I've got a link to the Japanese building codes for their homes.
	The Japanese have an attitude towards wood-framed homes that they're temporary and they're garbage.
	They tear them down after 20 years.
	So if anything would come apart in an earthquake, it would be one of their wood-framed homes.
	Their homes, when you get a wood-framed home like pictured in this very first picture here with a tsunami coming in, all these homes are perfectly intact and it's very important to realize These are specifically intended to be disposable homes.
	Inside, they don't have interior walls.
	The Japanese homes are built with a great big open space, and then they have these dividers that they put up to get their privacy in certain areas that are not any kind of freestanding.
	They're just these freestanding dividers, and I'm sure you've seen them at swap meets or at Chinese markets where it's like this paper divider with a wood frame.
	This is what they use to divide up So, what I'm trying to say here is there's no interior walls in these homes, even, to give them strength against an earthquake.
	So, in this very first picture here, we should see massive earthquake damage in these homes if a 9.0 had ever happened.
	In the next frame, we have a lot of concrete structures as the tsunami rolls in.
	You can see old concrete buildings that weren't built to standards are completely undamaged.
	You scroll down even further, you see cars perfectly parked in the parking lots like nothing happened.
	If a 9.0 happened, it would flip cars in the parking lot.
	A 9.0 is so bad, the USGS actually produced a chart for a 9.0 and they said that the vertical acceleration Um, was 12 G's for 0.3 seconds.
	12 G's for 0.3 seconds.
	That is, and that's at the epicenter, MYG004.
	At least, at least the USGS was honest, and they said that the quake occurred inland.
	The media was the one that put the quake out, out, out in the ocean.
	The USGS never claimed that.
	The Japanese never claimed that.
	Everything regarding this quake's epicenter, put it at station MYG004, which you can see for the very next picture down the page.
	The seismic reading was a 6.67.
	For that site, the USGS produced a chart for a 9.0 and said that the ground pulled 12 G's in a vertical direction.
	Well, if you've got the ground pulling 12 G's for 0.3 seconds, you're going to have cars that are smashed like tin cans on the hunt.
	They can't hold 12 times their weight for 3 tenths of a second.
	They're going to be smashed and thrown, not neatly parked in their parking spots.
	So when you see all these cars parked so neatly as a tsunami rolls in, that alone is proof that this quake never happened.
	There was never a 9.0.
	Anyway, I'm rambling a little bit.
	Okay, no, it's okay.
	But I also have all the links.
	It's a full chart put out by the USGS.
	If you click on that, you'll go in.
	They offer no reading from MYG011, which is closest to the 9.0 epicenter, but they did produce one for the 12G poll.
	Maybe that was the one by the it's been a long time since.
	If you scroll further down the page, I have all the highest peak intensities measured at any seismic stations in Japan, and then the one from the one that's closest to the reported and then the one from the one that's closest to the So there's the three highest and then the closest to the reported epicenter.
	This is about halfway down the page.
	If you go on the links page, let's see here, if you go on the links page, it's going to be link number... Okay, you're saying that what they got was a 5.6 worth of shaking?
	Well, that's a 5.67 worth of shaking was well away from the real epicenter.
	The real epicenter was a 6.67.
	Okay.
	All right, we'll be right back after the break.
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	And we are talking to Jim Stone.
	A fabulous show, I have to say myself.
	Very interesting information you're bringing to the floor here, Jim.
	And doing it very well, I might add.
	So I want to ask you about the earthquake itself, because it looks like it was a, you're saying it's a 6.67, was the actual quake itself.
	But do you feel that this was harp-induced, or do you think this was natural?
	It's definitely harp-induced, but I think that they got lucky and triggered something natural with their... and that's why they decided to go ahead with their... you see...
	If they're going to set up nuclear weapons in the Japan Trench to trigger a tsunami, and they set off six.
	If you go through the emails from Japan, that's very, very well described there.
	There were six tsunamis.
	There weren't one.
	There were six.
	So when one had finished, another wave came in and pushed it harder.
	Then that one finished and another wave came in and pushed it harder.
	Then that one finished and another wave came in.
	There were six total tsunamis.
	And some of my writers from Japan said that there were boats washed up to as high as 120 feet above sea level.
	So we're talking something that really, I mean, this tsunami was something that was just crazy in some areas anyway.
	Of course, how far it washes up on the shore all depends upon geography and how things get funneled and things like this.
	But the fact that we ended up with boats and things from the ocean 120 feet above sea level, we're talking something that was just nuts.
	Okay, but why, why did they, why, why the three-pronged attack?
	Uh, you know... Well, as of 9-11, if they're going to have a nuclear facility explode, they've got to have a reason.
	If they're going to have the towers collapse, well, they've got to have the planes go into them.
	If they're going to have a nuke plant explode, they've got to have a tsunami to provide a plausible scenario.
	Okay, but we understand that, okay, the tsunami was like the cover, right?
	Yes, the tsunami was the cover.
	The tsunami is the equivalent of the airplanes on 9-11.
	Okay.
	Now, to explain the seismic signature here, if you click on Link 4 on the homepage, it's going to take you directly to the picture where I have the most relevant seismograms out of Japan.
	And there's an explanation of them here for it.
	I'm going to give you a little bit of time to click on it.
	It's Link 4 at JimStoneFreelance.com.
	On the very front page, in the center column, it's link number 4.
	Right.
	I'm looking at it.
	And it says, the scale of measurement is denoted by these numbers.
	MYG 004, which was the true epicenter, looks like a smaller measurement than MYG 011, which was away from the epicenter.
	Because, in fact, it was much more powerful.
	Because if you look at the scale of measurement here, the MYG004 is graphing out at 2800, and MYG013 is graphing out at 1500.
	Now, this is something that's really, really important to note.
	These four seismograms were reported to be from the same quake, and that is critical to know.
	Because when you look at the first two seismograms, we have Obviously, two separate seismic events in the same seismogram, and yet you look at IBR 003, which was the one closest to Tokyo, there's no trace of the other earthquakes further north even being there.
	This means that these quakes that were further north were too small to register at IBR 003, so IBR 003 is a separately triggered seismic event.
	Yeah, that's very interesting.
	So why... It's so that Tokyo could feel the shaking, too, and say that they felt the earthquake.
	Because you've got to, if it's a 9.0, feel it in Tokyo at least.
	Right.
	Now, if you look at MYG011, if you look at the numbers, it graphs out at about 700 for the maximum negative peak.
	And this one is the seismic station that was closest to the media-reported epicenter for the 9.0.
	Well then why is it the smallest reading?
	That's a big question.
	If it's the smallest reading from the seismographs in Japan, and it was way out on a peninsula, 24 miles away from this 9.0, why is it getting a reading of 5.6?
	Or 5.67?
	I have to go to that, I gotta go back to the Fukushima page here.
	Because when you go back to the Fukushima page and you look, all these seismograms are well explained.
	Yeah, I see that.
	Okay, you know, at this point, Jim, what I'd like to do is shift gears.
	I want to ask you, before the end of the show, about this recent James Bamford article about the facility in Utah.
	Are you familiar with that?
	You know, I've been I haven't been keeping up with the news lately.
	It's an NSA facility.
	Believe it or not, I lived within 15 miles of where that's going in for 10 years.
	It's right by a reserve base.
	Because, you know, believe it or not, I lived within 15 miles of where that's going in for 10 years.
	It's right by a reserve base.
	One thing that people need to, that needs to be really well known about that particular NSA facility is that it's on a key Internet backbone.
	Now, my website, I don't know if you guys realize it, but, you know, for however many people are on this program, my website's running flawlessly.
	My website's on an extremely powerful server with an extremely good web provider, and it happens to be on a major Internet backbone for Internet 2.
	This is the reason why, there's two reasons why that facility is going in in Utah.
	Number one, it's on a major Internet backbone for Internet 2, which is vastly superior to Internet 1, and it's got the Mormon population out there as extremely technically savvy, and the CIA and the NSA just absolutely love and the CIA and the NSA just absolutely love Mormons.
	They will hire Mormons left and right, because Mormons, they can be trusted, they can be, they're intelligent, they're well-educated.
	It's a double whammy.
	Well, actually, Pete Peterson would say it's more than that.
	It's actually a plot.
	It's horrible.
	It's a horrible thing.
	You know what's going to happen with that facility?
	That internet backbone that's going through that part of the country is so powerful that it can handle all the traffic no sweat.
	It's really powerful.
	I was there when they were putting it in, let me tell you.
	Every house has has like 100 fiber optic lines of wires going right up to the house, and they only need to tap off of one to give you like infinite speed Internet.
	That's the type of system they put in out there.
	And we're talking, they put a system in in Utah that is just crazy.
	Well, talking about the grid going down, wait, but talking about the grid going down, is there a significance to that information?
	In other words, they're also, I understand, moving the Capitol underground north of Denver and into north of Idaho.
	All of this underground, I mean, in other words, what you're talking about is a double, sort of, the ramifications of building a facility on what you call the internet backbone.
	It's not only that, but there are a lot of underground bases in that area.
	You know, I don't know anything about the underground bases.
	All I know is that If power goes out elsewhere, Utah's going to stay up.
	It couldn't be worse.
	That NSA facility going in where it is, it couldn't be worse.
	Meaning, it couldn't be worse for us as a nation.
	Because if they're putting that NSA facility where it is, it's in a useless position for spying on the world.
	You don't put something that's going to spy on Afghanistan in the middle of Utah.
	You put something that's going to spy on Americans in the middle of Utah.
	Interesting statement.
	Very interesting.
	It's bad news.
	It's bad news.
	Wow.
	Fascinating.
	I'm totally against that going in.
	You know, I've worked in these facilities.
	You know, they're enormous.
	The one that I worked in was, you know, at the end of a quarter mile long tunnel out in the middle of the Pacific.
	Um, you know, it employed 5,000 people, and it was 70% vacant with 5,000 people working there.
	It was 70% vacant, where we used to, when we didn't have anything to do, we'd go out and, like, we'd call it spelunking, you know, because you can go down all these dark corridors in the facility where no one's been for years, you know.
	We used to have fun like that, you know, and And catwalks that are like eating out like aliens or like aliens, you know, aliens were where they got shot in their ass at eight.
	You know, some of the catwalks had holes in them like that.
	It was I mean, it was it was a real cool place.
	So you'd go back in there and find old gas masks and old ordinance and all this old stuff that's been there.
	Were you in California?
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	This is out in the Pacific, and I'm not going to say where.
	Oh, so it sounds like, well, okay, it starts in California.
	This is, you know, the U.S.
	has these enormous facilities in lots of places, and I'm not going to say it on the air because I don't want... I just got to express, 5,000 people worked in this thing, and it was 70% bacon.
	Fascinating, yeah.
	And everybody had room.
	It's not like they were cramped.
	Okay, well let me ask you this.
	We've got a lot of people that want to ask questions and I do want to try to get to some of those questions.
	I guess I don't have my My trusty helper here, so I'm going to try to, you know, scan the questions on my own.
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	Feel free to use the call-in line on American Freedom Radio.
	We've got, I'm trying to rush here, we've got about 30 minutes or less for the show.
	And what I want to say here, though, is that as a former member of the NSA, would you say that there are white hats within the NSA?
	The NSA is full of highly moralistic people that are very, very good.
	They work under a system of compartmentalized clearance so that when they're doing something evil, they don't know it because they don't know what their work is being used for.
	They don't know where the orders came from, but they are very, very good, honest, intelligent people.
	Okay, well that's great to hear.
	It's the exact thing you don't want when they don't know what their work is really being used for because they work hard at it and they're good at it and boy, they will get the job done.
	I can't think of a worse scenario.
	You've got all these honest people who think they're doing a wonderful job that are just, you know, who don't know because they don't know who they're working for.
	They don't know what their work is being used for.
	You know, I had a, if you go, let's see here, I'm not ready to post that.
	Immediately after this program, I'm going to be posting, putting back up an article on compartmentalized clearances and how these agencies work without even really knowing what their work is being used for.
	Yeah, very, very good point.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	You've got good people not knowing what they're doing.
	Okay, but in terms of this, you know, remember I asked you about, you've got this question on there about whether or not American companies are aware of Stuxnet.
	Do you think that, you know, because we've had sort of some kind of nuclear incidents happening in the New Madrid area, as you may be familiar, I don't know if you're following that, Dutch Sense is reporting on a lot of this.
	Okay, I need to go off on this.
	This is a major topic here.
	Okay.
	This is a major topic.
	Have you ever heard anything important?
	Oh, gosh.
	Okay, first of all, the system that's affected by Stuxnet Is the Siemens SCADA system, a Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition system.
	It's something where you can sit down and you can program on a computer and then upload what you programmed to your PLC and it'll run it.
	Okay, that's basically what it is.
	You can report back to the main office everything that's going on.
	It's a really, really slick system.
	After Fukushima, Siemens got out of the nuclear business because they knew what happened.
	They didn't announce it.
	They can't announce it.
	It's political suicide.
	They knew what happened.
	But here we have over 70% of America's nuclear facilities running the Siemens SCADA system that Fukushima was running when it got sabotaged and blew up.
	And it has been proven that this Stuxnet virus that infects this system is running rampant in America.
	It's running rampant in Japan.
	It's a virus that'll get on your system.
	You won't even know it's there.
	In the past, it was spread via flash drives.
	I wouldn't doubt at all if it was upgraded now to just spread via emails.
	We have, it's a nightmare.
	This Stuxnet virus, I would not be surprised if it has infected a lot of the American nuclear facilities, and that is why now we're getting so much erratic behavior.
	And perhaps these nuclear engineers, I know that my Fukushima report, Made it at the Department of Nuclear Engineering out at Berkeley in California, Berkeley University.
	They got onto it, so no doubt they called their peers, and the nuclear industry is probably very well aware of the Stuxnet virus now.
	And so, possibly, You know, if you know... So you're saying San Onofre, because there was some erratic stuff going on in San Onofre recently in California, down by San Diego, and also again back in near the Great Lakes area of the New Madrid Fault area, they've had some weird nuclear stuff going on there.
	So are you saying that this may actually be being triggered?
	By this virus, yes.
	That is exactly what I suspect.
	That's exactly what I think.
	I have a segment in the Fukushima report or the nuclear blackmail report, which we could cover in another program.
	I don't want to get out of that in this one, where this virus, once it gets onto a computer or onto a controller, It wouldn't be anything at all if that controller had any way to link back to the internet through any of the PCs that it reported back to.
	There isn't any reason to believe that it would not be able to report back to Israel when it affected a new facility.
	So, if this thing is running rampant in the U.S., we could possibly have a situation where an oil refinery gets affected.
	Boom!
	That shows up in Domona as a military option.
	So then all our nuclear facilities, etc., etc., would be at the thumb of an Israeli right now?
	You cannot prove it.
	You can't prove it, but it sure...
	Okay, we're going to be right back after this break.
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	We are talking to Jim Stone and this, wow, this show is on fire in more ways than one.
	Okay, Jim, we were just talking off the, you know, on the side there about Stuxnet, about the idea that the Israelis could actually be in control of not just our nuclear facilities, but also, I was just thinking, oil refineries.
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	There is one answer we all searched for and it was how to close the nuclear loop.
	When a reactor such as a boiling water reactor uses fuel, the waste products, which are highly radioactive isotopes that have a different fission characteristic than a fuel, build up in the fuel and poison the nuclear reaction.
	A reactor such as a boiling water reactor can only use the fuel until it gets contaminated by these isotopes long enough to change the nature of the nuclear reactions taking place.
	The reaction environment inside a boiling water reactor is only one such environment that will work to trigger a chain reaction.
	And if that spent fuel is put into a reactor made from different materials, those materials can favor the burning of the poisonous isotopes and use the isotopes as fuel until the fuel is purified of them.
	And therefore had its original radiological characteristics restored.
	Once that is accomplished, the fuel can go right back into the boiling water reactor and be used as new.
	We perfected the second reactor design, which used liquid sodium as a coolant, and that reactor ran much hotter.
	1100 Fahrenheit as opposed to 550 in a boiling water reactor.
	The liquid sodium circulated inside the reactor in Leo Botterick.
	I'm going to skip that.
	He specifically stated that the burndown was so complete that the spent fuel was safe to handle directly with bare hands and needed no special care or maintenance at all.
	He went on to lament about what a waste of money it was because the fuel is expensive and Carter banned this technology by executive order.
	He went on to lament about Carter banning this because of what a waste it was because the fuel is expensive and they were only using it to about 5% of its total potential.
	He limited the fact that it's life's greatest accomplishment got banned for no good reason, and it was a tremendous waste of money to not use the technology his team developed.
	Electricity would have been cheap.
	Real cheap.
	So cheap that homes would not have been heated with oil or natural gas.
	Electricity would have been the only sensible choice.
	This would have been America's free energy future, with the only real cost being maintenance of infrastructure.
	His take on it was that we are paying too much for electricity to know.
	I guess that's how an engineer thinks.
	But here's my take, and it has nothing to do with price, preservation of resources, or free energy.
	And this is where you really need to listen.
	Nuclear reactors are huge.
	I mean, they are huge.
	They have an enormous amount of nuclear material in them.
	One boiling water reactor, the size of the ones at Fukushima, can easily hold enough fissionable material to make countless atomic bombs.
	And with the technology that makes reusing that fuel illegal, it builds up at a rate of 25 tons per gigawatt year.
	That means that even small facilities like Fort Calhoun have approximately a million pounds of highly radioactive poison fuel sitting in their pools waiting for the right combination of problems to cause a disaster.
	When GE designed these nuclear facilities both here and abroad, they had calculated that they would indeed succeed in closing the nuclear loop.
	So they designed these nuclear facilities with approximately 20 times safety margin in the fuel pools because they did not have a clear date when this technology would be perfected.
	It was my impression from this engineer that they got it sooner than expected.
	So fortunately, the fuel pools were overbuilt.
	But they were never built to withstand the fuel burdens that would result from a political decision to destroy the technology altogether.
	So now, 40 years down the road, we have fuel pools around this country that are so full, they have exceeded even the extremely generous safety margin they were originally designed to have.
	And even the modest fuel pools have over 400 tons of highly active Isotope Britain spent fuel on them.
	Having functional fuel pool cooling systems was never intended to be necessary.
	And now all it's going to take is a virus, an extended power outage, a smart bomb, anything, to any one of these nuclear facilities around the country, and we are going to have another Fukushima on our hands.
	Because these fuel pools have gone criminally, criminally over capacity.
	And it's our own federal government, it's the Illuminati, it's people who wanted this country destroyed that caused this situation.
	We really do have a nuclear threat in this country.
	I can't express it more.
	If we get a facility like Browns Ferry that's an exact match to Fukushima, if we go to war with Russia and that thing gets smart-bombed, we're in deep doo-doo.
	Because that thing is sitting right in the middle of our heartland.
	It's going to go off and it's going to radiologically poison the entire country.
	And that's just Browns Ferry.
	All of our other nuclear facilities, what about all the other ones that are sitting in the heartland?
	Okay, Jim, I've got to stop you there.
	I really appreciate it.
	This is great, fabulous information.
	I just want to bring you back around to this notion that Stuxnet virus is actually in the hands of the Israelis, that it is tantamount to them also having their finger on a button in which they can trigger a nuclear incident, so they don't need to bomb one of these reactors.
	Yes, that's exactly it.
	We don't need to wait for a smart bomb from Russia to have a problem.
	Or a smart bomb from Timbuktu.
	So if pressure wants to be brought to bear, they could basically end up running the world by threatening to...
	What the article nuclear blackmail is about and that's one that I didn't want to want to get into where maybe on another program because that gets really deep into this conspiracy but we have a major problem on our hands and and between the virus go ahead
	Between this virus and between the nuclear deterrent that Israel has managed to get in place around the world, which was fairly well ferreted out in my Fukushima report and I just adapted it over, I've got it all explained in nuclear blackmail why they developed their deterrent this way.
	Yeah, we have a major problem.
	What we have now is a situation where if they want their bank or ballot, they're going to get it.
	If they want anything from this country, they're going to get it because they can destroy us on a whim.
	They can destroy us.
	Okay, that's very, very important.
	You know, and this is why our government went against the will of the people and did the banker bailout.
	They knew that that was political suicide.
	They didn't want to do it.
	Why on earth do you want to give ten trillion dollars to a bunch of European bankers?
	You know, that's where all the money ended up going, was over in Europe.
	They didn't pay off our houses.
	They still took our houses.
	The houses were paid for three times over by that bailout, yet we're still losing them in foreclosure.
	Why?
	It's because the money wasn't for the foreclosure crisis at all.
	Okay, we are working against the clock here.
	I just want to take a couple calls if we have time.
	Do you mind, Jim?
	Oh yeah, go ahead.
	Okay, we've got Jason from, let's see, I'm sorry I shouldn't be saying your name, Area Code 707.
	Hi, yeah, it's okay, you can say my name.
	Yeah, great talk.
	I don't want to change the subject too much, but I was wondering, Jim, if you're familiar with the strange sounds that have been going on I'm really familiar with that stuff, but that's another one where I...
	There is a rumor, my take on these strange sounds going off, and what I really believe is, is that there's a war going on between the light forces, the good people that I talked about at the NSA, and the FBI and the CIA, and the bad people that are working for the Illuminati elite.
	There is a war going on, and we're having some of these underground facilities being destroyed.
	And that's where the sounds are coming from.
	And I don't know who's winning.
	Okay, well, it'd be fascinating to hear your evidence for that, because you sound like a pretty technical guy.
	You must have a technical reason for making a statement like that.
	Yeah, I went down that rabbit hole, but it's way too much to get into this late in the program.
	Okay, we're going to have to have you back, Jim.
	Just incredible.
	Sorry, caller, I'm going to let you go, because we need to let another person ask a question.
	Okay.
	Thanks.
	Okay, sorry about that.
	Okay, let's see.
	We've got area code 612.
	You're on the line with Jim Stone and Kerry Cassidy.
	Hi, am I on?
	Yes.
	Yeah, you're on.
	Yeah, I got a question about your, something you have on your website about the Sandy Bridge being, can be remotely disabled.
	I thought you have to enable that feature for that to work.
	You know, Technically, they say that you have to enable this stuff, but I don't believe it, because there's a backdoor for everything.
	And, uh, well, what he's talking about is, uh, Sandy Bridge, uh, is the new i7, i5, i3 platform that Intel released earlier this year.
	And, uh, it has what's called, uh, Anti-Theft 3.0, I think.
	What this is, is if your laptop gets stolen, you can remotely disable or destroy that CPU, which basically bricks the laptop.
	Okay, I'm sorry we're at the end of our hour here.
	Thank you so much everyone for being on the line.
	Jim, I want you to give your website and please do donate to Jim Stone.
	He's got a donate button I see on his website.
	I'm sure he could use the help.
	It's all got to come through Western Union because PayPal has been banned and anytime I link a bank account it doesn't work.
	So it's got to come through Western Union.
	Okay, no problem.
	And what else do you want to say?
	Less imparting words here?
	Well, you know, thank you for being here.
	You know, false flag terror in the name of the environment is something that they went on to when they figured out that their other false flag terror stuff wasn't working to the effect that they wanted.
	It fooled people really good.
	They got a lot of mileage out of it.
	But I intend to put an end to it.
	I want this entire era of false flag terror in the name of the environment to be gone.
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