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Feb. 18, 2012 - Project Camelot
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PROJECT CAMELOT: JOHN KETTLER - THE LATEST INTEL
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This is Carrie from Project Camelot and we are here to do an interview, a live interview with John Kettler and I'm afraid there won't be much video going on here.
My video is happening, but it's sporadic, and so that's the luck of the draw at the moment.
Our site is down, the Project Camelot.tv site is down, so that's just live.
We'll go from here.
So, John, I became interested in interviewing you because I saw that you had some very interesting intel on your site that no one else seemed to have.
And that was for a couple of different things going on, but one of the things was the submarine that was supposedly going to be involved in a false flag somewhere near San Onofre, or involving the San Onofre nuclear power plant.
If you can address that, as well as all the other sort of articles that have recently been on your site, and I also want to talk about, I think we'll drill down into some of the evidence that came towards you during the time when SEAL Team 6 was out there supposedly killing Osama bin Laden, and I understand that your information is such that You believe that's actually true.
I do not, so we will have an interesting discussion on that level.
But I understand basically for the listener, you have not only intelligence or intelligent sources, so to speak, off-world, but also on-world.
So the fact that you're kind of in the middle of those two streams of information is putting you in a very interesting position.
And from what I understand, some of the agencies are interested in that part as well.
So why don't you tell us about yourself, first of all, give a bit of a bio, and then we'll drill down into some of the current events that you've been reporting.
Okay, so if you're muted, I guess you have to remember to unmute yourself.
Thank you.
Alright, my switchology problems.
I am the son of a defense engineer who spent 40 years in military aerospace primarily working on cutting-edge defense programs, radar countermeasures, radar design, lasers, infrared countermeasures, all kinds of exotic stuff for regular defense industry and also for some of the intelligence community.
He sent people into combat with gear that he himself designed and engineered and things like that.
So I grew up in a house full of books on military history, weapon technology, espionage, covert operations and things like that.
I tried to get into the military myself, service academies, but my eyesight was too bad.
So I wound up kind of getting into military aerospace through the back door.
I'd worked for a financial printer, and one of the think tanks was one of the customers, and I knew exactly who to approach and whatnot, but I didn't have a college degree at the time.
I had three years or So, of college under my belt.
And what I wound up with was, the guy had told me literally, if I had a PE degree, I could have gotten in.
But I didn't.
And my father had me writing white papers.
He worked for Hughes Aircraft Company at the time.
And it was taking a lot of my time writing these white papers, which in turn were causing security flaps because I took information out of Aviation Week magazine and stuff.
That other people didn't realize was significant, and I did, and I said, okay, to keep this system alive on the battlefield, you know, you need to worry about this particular problem.
And so, next thing you know, there's a security flap at Hughes, and I'm not even working for the outfit, because they said, oh my God, you know, this information shouldn't be out there, and it was published in Aviation Week.
So we looked at ways of getting me on as a consultant, and that didn't fly, but he knew some of the guys in operations analysis out at Hughes Missile Systems Group, which is now part of Raytheon, and I went in on interview and I knocked them dead.
The background I indicated plus my own studies and wargaming from age 12.
So that's the background on that side.
I went on to spend a total of a little over 11 years working for Hughes Aircraft Missile Systems Group, where I worked on practically every tactical missile program the country had, because Hughes built most of them.
The Phoenix missile, the Maverick anti-tank missile, the TOW anti-tank missile, All that kind of stuff, lateral applications.
My job was to prevent technological surprise.
And I briefed the chief technical officer of the company from time to time, and there's actually a version of the tow that's a result of one of those discussions.
And then I went on, I interviewed with Northrup and Ultimately wound up at Rockwell, where I was supposed to do Soviet strategic threat analysis and wound up instead on operational readiness and supportability for our entry in the fighter program that ultimately produced the F-22.
And my job was air crew protection against things like laser and chemical and nuclear threats and also other forms of directed energy weapons.
And I wound up leaving military aerospace in June 20th of 89 because it was tearing me up.
The stress was tremendous.
But the last program I worked on was the National Aerospace Plane.
Which was a single-stage-to-orbit hydrogen-powered craft.
I worked on the military versions of that.
That was a special access program.
And I had all the what we call the tickets for that and was in the process of being cleared for top-secret sensitive compartmented information.
So that's the overview of my military aerospace career.
Okay, you were in the process of being vetted and in the process of being classified into a different category.
And what happened at that point?
Unmuted here.
What happened was the company was gagging over the cost.
In part.
To get a top secret sensitive compartmented information clearance was a very expensive process.
I think something of the order of six figures.
And there were only going to be two people in my entire area cleared.
The program manager and me.
And so they ran into some snag.
I don't know what it was, but it didn't ultimately happen.
So the highest clearance that I ever held was secret, what they call NOFORN, which is NOFORN, WINTEL warning, intelligence sources and methods involved, SYNWITY, critical nuclear weapon design information, and some NATO tickets and a few other odds and ends.
Those were my clearances.
Okay, so at that point, what happened?
Well, I got to the point where the job environment was so profoundly dysfunctional that it started tearing me up.
Plus, there were environmental issues like sick building syndrome and sensitivity to fluorescent lighting and things like that, but also grossly dysfunctional project management that nearly led to a mutiny.
It was that bad.
And I started developing severe gastrointestinal issues that put me out of work.
And every time I'd come back in, I'd get them again, and I wound up spending four months out on sick leave before I had to resign.
Also, in that same timeframe, what happened was my value system started to change.
I was in the defense business.
I had a brother sitting in a Bradley right on the border with East Germany and a study in my safe that said that half the guys in units like his were going to be casualties if the balloon never went up and the Russians came across the frontier.
And I found out I was working with some people who were out-and-out warmongers and I just couldn't stay in that environment.
So I wound up Leaving, I worked on a novel for a while when I was able to function at all.
My health just imploded.
And then I got involved with a group called The Empowerment Project.
When they found out what my background was, the director, Barbara Trent, said to the Co-producer, don't let him out of the office, and I wound up working on the Panama Deception, which was an expose on Operation Just Cause and the history of U.S. involvement in Panama and Central America.
That film, I have primary research credit in that film.
I took over after a guy named Jack Adriance died just as the film went into post-production.
And I think that was where the government really began to seriously dislike me because it viewed me as a traitor.
I'd come out of the military-industrial complex and then turned around and used what I'd learned against the government.
And in their view, I'm sure it's been downhill ever since.
Very funny.
Okay, well...
Let's see.
I think that people will be interested to know whether or not you were, I don't know, exceptional in school at a young age.
Because I know some background about you, so I'm going to sort of ask questions that will go down that road.
And so I'm just wondering, in terms, because you kind of jumped in at a certain point, was there any sort of proclivity at a young age?
I was a star student in pretty much everything but mathematics.
My parents emphasized academic performance, and there were severe consequences if it wasn't obtained.
But when I was learning old math, they introduced new math with all this numerical theory and whatnot, and it really screwed me up on that front.
They took me in for tests.
It was like...
Math is another language.
Why can't John get math?
And I think what it had to do with is something called sequencing, and they broke my sequencing, and it has haunted me ever since.
I had troubles in algebra.
And the troubles I had in Algebra 1 were complicated by falling madly for a girl, so it was kind of like when she was there, I was distracted, and when she wasn't there, I was pining.
So I didn't get the basis in place for Algebra 1, so Algebra 2 didn't work out and I had to drop it.
Okay, but this is not exactly what I'm aiming at.
I mean, I'm kind of curious whether at a very young age you showed any sort of unusual characteristics.
I would say the family view on that is yes.
It would be summarized as, John has always been different.
Okay, so I know, for example, that you're an earth sensitive, correct?
Yes, I am.
Okay, when did you find that out?
I had suspicions beforehand, but I knew for sure On February 13th of 2001, I had had massive symptoms the day before and in the days preceding that day.
I'd actually been in a combined I was an oriental doctor and regular MD's office, and I was massively symptomatic.
I had horrible headaches.
I had balance problems.
The list was very long.
I was in a lot of pain.
I was just a basket case.
Okay, and what happened on February 13th, 2001?
On February 13, 2001, there were two large earthquakes.
One would be considered, I think, a great quake.
There was a 6.6 in, I can never remember whether it's San or El Salvador, which is the country, but Salvador in any event.
And there was a 7.3 in Sumatra, in Indonesia.
And right after those quakes came in, I felt as though the weight of the world had been lifted off me.
Okay.
So, you know, I felt like myself again.
And I have not truly felt like myself again since then.
That was the last time quake activity cleared the burden of Earth sensitivity.
And there was probably Six, seven hours of respite, and then I began to feel the build-up for what ultimately expressed about two weeks later as the Nisqually 6.8, or to most people, the Seattle quake.
Okay, so you have been experiencing...
Tell me again, oh, you live in Texas, right?
I do, yes.
Okay, so that's not a very...
I don't know, that doesn't have a lot of faults in it, going through it, right?
Yes.
That's true.
It's relatively seismically quiet.
Okay.
And I think I'm better off in Texas than I was when I was living in California.
One of the places I lived turned out to be at the junction of five faults.
Okay.
Which was where?
In Northern California?
Little city called Carson, right near Long Beach.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Okay, so you were an Earth-sensitive, but you didn't find out until, well, relatively recently, in the sense that it was about 10 years ago or so, right?
That's true.
But there were other indications that something was going on long before then.
I used to feel the buildup of And, you know, if there was a mass trauma, I would feel that.
So I'm also an empath.
And one of the things that happened long before I knew I wasn't Earth-sensitive was there was a horrible morning train wreck in India which killed 200 people.
And what happened was that the morning commuter train ran smack into the rear end of a mail train that wasn't where it was supposed to be.
The survivors were described as wandering around in a daze, because most of them had been catnapping on the way in.
And I found myself ejected from my bed and flung into the center of the room.
That's about six feet.
And I was wandering around in a daze, too.
That was a real eye-opener of an experience for me.
And I tried throwing myself from my bed just to see if it could be done and I could do it.
And that happened, adjusted for time zones, right when that train wreck occurred.
Okay.
Another thing that really was kind of a clue, and many years earlier, was I was totally, totally wired during Desert Storm.
And I thought it was just because I was watching all this Storm and Drone, you know, TV coverage around the clock with the Scud Studs and all the, you know, the hyped up music and stuff.
But after the war ended, When the U.S. was going after Saddam Hussein's air defense sites day after day, I began to realize that the days we bombed the sites were the days I felt like I was getting sucked in the gut.
And so that was kind of an indicator that something was going on there and I started asking around and finally wound up contacting Dr.
Richard Boylan, who He said he didn't know anything about Earth sensitivity or anything, but he hooked me up with two different people, one of whom goes by the handle Earthquake Mary, and the other one was a woman named Mary Maya.
And they kind of took me under their wing and directed me to some sites, and I began to learn about Earth sensitivity.
Most people have trouble accepting the notion that maybe the moon, a full moon, might be affecting behavior.
So this is the kind of thing that gets you branded as nuts, as a general rule.
I understand, but we...
If you do the research, and I did and published it in an article in Atlantis Rising magazine, the research shows, for example, that...
Incidents of violence in prisons triples at the time of the full moon.
Anybody in the mental health or police fields will tell you that suicide rates go up, that the crime rates go up, all kinds of things start to happen, and some of the scientific thinking on it is it's to do with a tidal effect.
Similarly, I had...
You know, 2001 was the solar, or was it 2000, was the solar maximum on the 11-year solar cycle, and the solar flares were just beating me to death.
An M-class flare would put me flat on my back in bed for hours.
Well, you might notice that that's happening right now, right?
Yes, but there's a difference.
Back when this first happened, after a few iterations of it, I got in touch with a friend of mine who was a shin practitioner and she worked on me.
Shin is one of many energy disciplines dedicated toward rebalancing the body's energy body.
And she did what she could, and she referred me to another woman who practiced something called alpha-biotics, which is another energy discipline.
And between that and some supplements to rebuild just a flat adrenal system and some other things that were done, The woman succeeded in reducing my solar sensitivity to the point where I could actually semi-function during an X-class flare.
And there were people who flat out told me I was going to die from an X-class flare given the amount of reactivity my body had to that kind of solar activity.
Never mind Omega, which is beyond X in terms of severity.
Okay.
Now, on top of everything else, you are, let's see, sort of an intuitive, whatever you want to call that.
Have you ever been trained in remote viewing?
I understand the theory of remote viewing, but I've never been trained in it.
The training that I've had in psychic functioning was that I went through both the Silva Mind Control basic and graduate programs.
And that is a system that was developed to help a guy's daughter learn, but what it really is is a program in applied psychic functioning.
But I've always been highly intuitive.
I was the kid who, when given the math problem, got the right answer but skipped a whole bunch of steps.
My brain works by leaps, not by A, B, C, D. You get me with somebody who works that way and it's automatically stressful.
So, it's been kind of an unfolding.
I went to a demonstration one time where I saw the effect of color on people's strength and mood.
That and somebody curing me of a cold, which normally took weeks to go away, really got my attention, coming off the standard model of reality.
And it's been, I liken it to a taffy pull, where you just keep pulling the taffy out to the point where it almost but not quite breaks, and then you wad it back together again and start the process.
So it's been a gradual unfolding, but, you know, I've had the experience, and everybody's had it, I think, to one degree or another, of the phone rings and you know who it's going to be.
Telephone telepathy.
Sure.
A while back, it was conversations that started occurring with someone that I really cared about.
It's well established in the literature that twins have a special connection, that mothers and girlfriends and wives know when something bad has happened to a loved one.
They even portray it in the movies.
The woman who wakes up Shrieking in terror because she knows that her guy on the other side of the world has been killed and things like that.
So I'm earth-sensitive, sun-sensitive, moon-sensitive, and an empath.
So it's a lovely, lovely time to be on the planet.
But those of us who are sensitives and empaths typically experience before a destructive event or Mass social upheaval, a lot of sadness that is not our own.
Very, very well said.
Okay, but at this point, what I'd like to do is kind of make that transition into what you are currently doing and the intelligence that has been coming at you, except to ask how your contacts, because you have off-planet contacts, Could you describe how that whole thing started to happen and why you even trust them?
The off-planet context started to happen when someone that I've long known in a business context used to say the most outrageously weird things that frankly I thought meant It's kind of like this person is a genius over on the business side and uttering incoherences on the other side.
But I was invited to a channeling session.
Now, I've had some exposure to channeling because I've seen videos of Jay-Z Knight channeling Ramtha and looked at the changes in the face and the posture and all that, but it wasn't that kind of thing.
This was just someone Who had the higher dimensional connections and this was a session for this very out there person, I thought.
And what happened while I was just sitting there, you know, basically expecting it to be a crock, was I started having my own direct experience of this session that I could actually hear in my I don't know what the right jargon is to apply to the experience,
but I was participating in it in that I could hear what was being said in the conversation coming from the other side, and I actually got a couple of glimpses of the being that was being talked to.
Well, that really rattled my cape.
That was an eye-popping moment for me.
And this particular person is the earthly version of the higher dimensional part of that connection, and in the higher dimensional form is an extremely powerful being with an extremely powerful, well-connected family.
And I got kind of adopted, I guess you could say, By that family, and I started getting information.
And this coincided roughly with the blog.
So there's an argument raging, you know, it's a chicken-egg type argument.
Did I start the blog in order to be kind of the scribe for the off-planet contingent, or...
Does it run the other way?
You could argue either side of that coin.
All I can tell you is I'm probably in the most unique UFO research position there ever has been.
Because I'll get information from terrestrial contacts that I can then check out with them and vice versa.
And their track record is very, very good.
I judge by results.
Okay.
Well, you know, you are a very, you're sort of in a unique position to some degree, and your previous training in sort of In the defense industry, I guess you might call it,
and your close brushes with getting involved in above top secret areas, I guess, that coupled with this side of things puts you in sort of a unique position to be able to analyze possibly well the intelligence coming at you from both departments, so to speak.
And that's why we're doing this interview.
And so to sort of deal with that now, let's start with some of the most important incidents that have happened.
As you said, if I understood correctly, you've only been doing the blog since January.
Is that right?
I believe I started it, yeah, in late January, somewhere around there.
Of 2012?
Yeah, well, it started, let's see, November of 2011 was when it started it, and it has really, really taken off.
Initially, I had lots and lots of interest.
I wrote on the actual basis of the unicorn in myth, and that was deliberately written as a teaser for a post that I did on the historical evidence for unicorns.
And then all of a sudden, It's like there's this big shift occurs, and next thing I know, I've got this contact, and I got information coming in, and I'm off to the races, and I'm spending more and more and more time dealing with the extraterrestrial, extra-dimensional thing.
But I'm getting fed information by people with what I call nosebleed-level clearances.
There are, for example...
Clearances, it takes a presidential clearance to visit Area 51, okay?
But the president is not cleared to visit Area 51.
I'm dealing with people who have clearances in the stratosphere.
People like the one on my site, Anonymous2, who wrote in and described the high price of spilling the beans.
Okay, and actually, well, sorry to interrupt you there.
I do want people to know that that's one of the reasons you're also doing this interview with me is that I read what Anonymous 2 had to say about you.
And because I am an intuitive, I was able to tell that that individual was a person who had been, let's say, down the rabbit hole, as we call it.
And so since they kind of We're giving you sort of a stamp of approval.
I figured I needed to check you out, so I started to read what you had to say.
So that is actually how this interview happened.
So now tell people what Anonymous 2 was saying.
Anonymous 2 is a patriot, a former high-ranking military official who Saw certain things happening, did not like what he saw, and put the information out.
Acted in accordance with his oath of allegiance to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Spilled the beans and the government came down on him like the proverbial ton of bricks.
The government arranged to have several of his wives killed in succession.
His son was killed in a quote-unquote friendly fire incident.
His pension was taken away.
He's hunted.
I literally hold people like his lives in my hands and vice versa, because out of the same community that produces those sorts of industrial strength whistleblowers, There come people with all kinds of specialized skills, some of whom watch my back here on this planet.
The ETED contingents that I work with are also watching my back, and there are Pearl Harbor files, as I call them, in existence that will be released if anything bad happens to me.
But that does not mean that the government is not messing with me.
It is messing with me big time.
It has invaded my site.
It has violated my copyright wholesale.
The Central Intelligence Agency copied all my posts 24,000 times and distributed them through the entire building.
They have interfered with the ability to post reviews on Kindle.
Wait, wait, wait.
Slow down, slow down.
You know that the CIA has seen your posts and it was distributed because you were given this intel by someone behind the scenes, correct?
Absolutely, yes.
And this same thing has happened to Camelot, so we can totally relate.
So, okay, continue.
Okay, so they have also interfered with...
One of the more recent maneuvers was they figured out a way to delist me from the Amazon catalog.
So people would come looking for it and it wasn't there.
And somebody was contacted, you know, who was trying to order the book and said, do you know how to get in touch with this person?
He said yes and whatnot, but...
As best I can tell, one of the ETED contingents, who happened to be really, really good with electronics and computers, said, oh, we'll see about that, and I can tell you it's working now.
Okay, could you explain, what do you mean, ETED? Extra-dimensional.
Is that what you're referring to them?
Exactly.
Extra-terrestrial, extra-dimensional.
Just so people understand.
That's a more accurate characterization.
I'm working with beings several dimensions above this one.
This is third going into fourth.
I won't say which dimension they're in, and I'm not going to name the races involved, because there is a real war on, and casualties We're and are being taken and it is the height of foolishness to give order of battle information away to the enemy in the middle of a war.
Even though it frustrates my readers.
They demand to know who it is I'm dealing with.
You know, as I said, I go by results.
If somebody says that a certain set of events is going to occur and that certain set of events occurs and these sorts of incidents keep happening, then To use the common term these days, you know, those people have a lot of street cred with me.
Okay?
They have talked the talk and walked the walk.
Okay, so let's now go into some of the incidents where you got intelligence, either on or off-world, and it panned out.
Okay, I'll be happy to do that.
We could start with the CIA Israeli Mossad agents.
You want to start with that incident?
I can, if you like.
But the...
The Mossad thing does not contain any off-world component.
I understand, but let's do that one first, so people understand that your on-world intel is definitely happening.
Okay, fair enough.
I received word from one of my super-sensitive contacts that a Mossad hit team I had entered the United States.
I was given particulars of where it arrived, the fact that it had come in by various circuitous routes and assembled.
I was given the composition of the team.
I then put together a post informing the readers, which by definition includes much of the intelligence community, that this was the case.
I indicated the likely target was probably President Obama because of a perception in both Israel and in the Jewish community here in the United States that he was not strongly Pro-Israeli,
that he was soft on the matter and whatnot, and there had also been some unfortunate words said about dealing with Mr.
Netanyahu.
The words were exchanged between him and another foreign leader, and it went something like, The first leader was complaining about having to deal with Netanyahu, to which Obama shot back, well, you think you've got a problem?
I have to deal with him every day, and there were some epithets involved.
So, this didn't improve matters any.
And that was...
I tend to get chronology crossed up sometimes.
I believe it was after that that the article was published in the Atlanta Jewish News where essentially a trial balloon was floated saying that Obama should be assassinated.
And it turns out that under both Jewish law Or Israeli law, rather, and American law is in a recently passed National Defense Authorization Act.
Anybody who supports terrorism is liable to be killed.
So, what happened was that I published this article and As a result of information that's normally very closely held being published, the authorities were able to capture the Mossad hit team.
And the word came back to me that my blog and a blogger, you know, Associated with it, was credited directly with enabling the capture of the Mossad hit team and thwarting a planned hit on U.S. soil on what turned out what they believed to be was a Middle Eastern man.
Okay, so at that point, let's go to a couple other incidents where off-worlders are involved and it actually panned out.
Fair enough.
I received word from one of my contacts that ET bodies were starting to disappear.
They were disappearing from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
Long associated with the infamous Hangar 18, and if you watch the right History Channel programs, there are indications of extensive underground facilities there.
Things were disappearing from Area 51.
One of the Bob Lazar-type sports model flying saucers, which testers released, disappeared.
A craft which...
Will be the subject of my next e-book.
It was recovered encased in rock and it came out of a dinosaur-era formation and actually had dinosaur-era zoological specimens inside it.
It was taken, but the rock that it was encased in was left as basically a pile of sand.
And certain other black project Items, a TR-3B Astra, and there was something else, all disappeared in rapid succession.
I was told by my off-planet contacts that there were going to be more, and next thing you know, Thanksgiving Day rolls around and I get a report.
That a flight of three B-2s, loaded up and destined for a strike mission in Afghanistan, had taken off from Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri.
And there was a blinding green flash, and the flight lead, who flies on the point of the arrowhead formation, vanished almost immediately on rotation.
The Air Force at first thought that the plane had exploded and mounted an extensive effort to look for debris, but the ETEDs took it.
And when asked why they were doing what they were doing, they said they were recovering their own craft and craft on behalf of other races and the bodies and The justification for taking the B-2 and other things that they took.
And that same day, an X-22A Darkstar disappeared over lunch from Holloman Air Force Base.
It was being worked on.
The crew broke for lunch, came back, and this super-secret triangular-shaped fighter plane-sized anti-gravity craft was gone.
And what they said is, you know, they feel that That which incorporates their technology is fair game for recovery.
If we can take their saucers, they can take our toys.
Okay, but at the moment though, that information that you've got right there requires that you have somebody on the ground telling you that these things disappeared, correct?
It does.
It requires somebody who has access to that information, and that runs in some very, very sensitive, high-level, top-secret Super-duper code word compartments.
I understand.
I'm just, you know, I'm just following the train so people understand what's being said here and are able to sort of separate it out.
So on the one hand, you've got the ETs saying one thing, and on the other hand, you've got the intelligence on the ground, so to speak, giving you another picture, and basically those pictures match.
They do.
They did.
Okay.
And the ETs said they were going to continue taking things, and a few days after things started disappearing from Area 51 and Ride Pat and places like that, they took two more craft.
The B-2 right out of the air, crew and all, and the X-22 out of the hangar.
And this kind of thing gave the intelligence community...
Well, there's a term for it.
Let's just say it requires incontinence garments and occurs immediately.
But how's that for being delicate?
Okay, so it is really interesting.
So at this point, give me...
Why don't you give...
Is there a way that you can give us an incident that...
I don't know if this would be the sub-San Onofre thing or if there's something else since before that, where...
You could give more of a blow-by-blow in terms of this person contacted you to tell you this was going to happen or this was happening and then you got a similar contact off-world or, I mean, whichever direction it came from.
Do you understand what I'm asking for?
I'm asking for kind of a blow-by-blow in terms of telling the story before you get to the punchline.
I understand exactly what you're asking for, Kerry.
I think the case of the Israeli ballistic missile sub is very much on point.
I received information from one of my contacts here on Earth that the Israelis had acquired a French Formerly French, I guess you could say, ballistic missile submarine of the redoubtable class.
That was a pretty shocking thing to hear because the biggest vessel the Israeli Navy operates is something of the order of a Corvette.
And that the submarine was armed with Israeli-produced missiles which were going to have to be surface-launched because you cannot launch missiles unless they're specially designed and protected from underwater otherwise.
The ETs became aware of this and they put out a decree.
It basically said Attention Israel, if you move that boomer from the dock in Haifa, we're going to kill it.
And, you know, there was great guffawing at the Pentagon and everything.
And there was also a major, major chewing out conducted of people at French naval headquarters when The U.S. naval attaché got on the horn and basically said, fill in whatever choice words you want, but basically, what were you thinking when you sold the Israelis a boomer?
The French, I'm sure they had very...
Bloody ears after that, but that was a direct result of my publishing the post on this.
It was not known generally through the community that this had been done, and it caused a firestorm all by itself.
So the ETs warned that the thing had, you know, it had better not move.
It moved.
I received word from my terrestrial contacts that it was moving, that it did not go through the Suez Canal, but because the Egyptians wouldn't let it through, so it went the long way up the coast of Africa.
It got into the Arabian Sea.
The ETEDs issued another warning saying, turn back now.
There was an incident off the coast of Somalia where The submarine mysteriously had encountered a storm so severe that it fractured the skull of one of the crewmen.
The sub came up just as the corvette that was to take off the crewman The sub basically surfaced between the Corvette and the Somali pirates who panicked and turned around and went back to shore.
The crewman was transferred successfully and may be the only survivor of this exercise.
Wait one second.
I don't understand.
What Corvette?
Are you referring to an ET craft?
No, no, no.
A Corvette is a small naval warship, and the Israelis sent it to meet the sub because the sub did not have the medical facilities to care for someone with a probably depressed skull fracture.
The submarine was so shaken up in a storm, which, frankly, I think the ETEDs had something to do with by way of sending a message, that the sub was forced to surface and have the crewmen medevaced.
And so the sun came up just as the Corvette was under attack or was about to undergo attack by the Somali pirates.
They are pretty brazen these days.
Okay, but that was like a total separate thing, right?
But it ties together because that individual is presently the sole earthly survivor of this submarine.
And then I'm going to get back into the story.
So the Corvette took him off and took him back to Israel or wherever the Corvette was based.
The submarine went back to its usual cycle of running submerged and then periodically surfacing to check in via one-way transmission to its base.
And, you know, I was starting to get nervous, okay, because my credibility is on the line at this point, and then I start getting some interesting reports.
The submarine has missed its check-in.
Okay, well, that could be fairly readily explained.
The submarine has missed its check-in again.
Pretty soon, it's up to seven or eight.
Next thing you know, you're into what they call Grey Lady Down, which means a submarine has disappeared and is presumed lost.
So I put something out on that and the ETEDs had said what they were going to do specifically to the submarine.
Initially they were going to kill the crew.
One of my contacts managed to plead successfully on their behalf because dying in a submarine is a particularly ugly way to go.
The hole compresses, water comes shooting in at high pressure, and it's very nasty.
So here's what happened.
They said they were going to crush the submarine, they said they were going to take the missiles, and they said they were going to take the reactor, because they're very green.
They don't want anybody picking up nuclear toys and running off with them, and they don't want any more contamination of the planet from radioactivity.
They are very anti-nuclear.
And part of that is because nuclear weapons actually rip a hole through time, and I'm sure you've been exposed to parallel worlds and superstring and all that kind of stuff.
So, the next thing is, you know, we have no submarines in the area, so we couldn't verify anything, but we get a report that a Chinese hydrographic survey vessel Heard breaking up noises.
So now the search is on in the Arabian Sea.
They had a rough location.
They spent the next two days looking for it.
They eventually located it and photographed it.
The submarine was missing its entire missile compartment and there was a gaping hole in the side of the hole where the reactor should have been.
So, that's probably the single best story to date of the interaction of the terrestrial information with the ETED information.
And I would say that it would be a fairly good bet the world will be seeing the remnants of that sub.
The Israelis think it's a war grave, so they're not going to raise it, but they don't understand that the crew was taken off.
The crew is presently off planet and off dimension.
And according to my understanding, is undergoing training in some very advanced universities, referred to as the University of Evolution.
And it has not yet been determined by the ETZDs whether or not the crew will be returned.
It has been said that the crew of the B-2 will be returned at some point.
And I would imagine special protective measures will be required.
Otherwise, they will probably be disappeared into facilities the government puts people in that it doesn't want talking.
Sure.
Okay.
Well, at this point, just to go back over the context that we're giving you this information on Earth.
You had sufficient, let's say, intel from certain individuals.
And these people are people that are reporting to you, right?
They're reporting information to you on an ongoing basis, more or less.
I'm assuming.
They are.
Okay.
So, and these people you have reason to believe because you've vetted them in various ways.
Is that true?
It is.
Okay, do you want to talk about how you vet your earthly sources?
I would put it this way.
To people who've been in the intelligence business, part of it is, who do you know, what do you know?
The question would be asked, well, what do you think about such and such?
And you explain, you know, well, I think it's this and this is why I think it.
Part of it is personal introduction and the introduction to one of my contacts came from a trusted personal friend, okay?
The material that I'm presenting that comes out of the intelligence side of the house, terrestrially speaking, is triple sourced as well.
So I'm always, always careful because I've studied the history of disinformation operations and things like that.
I've seen them in action.
I've been conned a few times myself in my lifetime.
And You know, it's a question of looking at what's being said, testing it against your own knowledge base of what seems reasonable, but I am finding myself increasingly in realms where the most outrageous things are in fact real.
The notion that somebody can go into Area 51 uninvited and take craft out at will is absolutely mind-boggling because I know people who have had I've seen the pictures who've been buzzed by a gigantic CH-53 helicopter that came straight at them when they were on a Bureau of Land Management public road near Area 51 and the helicopters
coming straight at them at 10 feet off the ground When they're driving down the road.
I know people who've had cameras confiscated just for being near Area 51.
I knew a marine reserve major who had a guy in his unit who busted the boundary for Area 51, was ordered down, chewed up one side and down the other, and sent home summarily, and that was the end of his training weekend.
There have been plenty of people who've been suppressed.
The Billy Goodman show was forced off the air several times and ultimately permanently because he had people from Area 51 who were talking.
And he was told if he kept doing it, that was going to be the end of it.
And the way they made him go away was they threatened the broadcast license of the station.
Just like the broadcast license of the station connected with putting out the Roswell story was threatened.
It's a very powerful way of silencing people.
So, I vet my sources very carefully.
I know what to look for.
I know some of the warning signs.
And one of the ways I know for sure my sources are good is I have been repeatedly attacked by the government.
As we speak, it's out there conducting a whispering campaign trying to destroy my reputation.
It's trying to portray me as crazy.
My site has been hacked and they've put...
A piece of code on it basically designed to catch idiots with clearances who come in without any kind of electronic screen on their identities.
I've itemized some of the other things they've done.
There have been repeated rumblings of what they call lancing the boil, which is to say killing me.
So I am hitting them where they live.
If I was just some idiot blathering, these things would not be happening.
I would not matter.
I would not be worth their time.
And Anonymous, too, was not kidding when he said, I'm risking my life.
And I've explained it to some of my readers.
This is no game.
This is no joke.
This is not for the faint of heart.
Absolutely.
Well, no doubt about it.
Okay, well, we've, again, had all of those things going on constantly for quite some time here, so I guess I could say welcome to the club.
What I'd like to do now is talk about some of the other incidents that you've been reporting on, and I'm not sure.
Let's talk about the San Onofre situation, because that's very recent.
And then from there, let's go back to the situation with Bin Laden and SEAL Team 6.
Fair enough.
I received information from a second ETED contingent, which arrived on the scene fairly recently specializing in intelligence to the effect that there was a false flag operation and process that frankly made no sense to me or my contacts.
The gist of it was that an 86 meter long German submarine Was nosing about and it was going to try to enter an underwater cave and blow up the San Onofre plant.
Well, I did some research and the German Navy has no such submarine.
The German Navy operates small diesel electric submarines.
So this had serious head scratching going on, and then we get word from upstairs, as I say, that there was a British connection.
So back I go to the research, go online, go on Wiki, and I determine that the closest fit for a British submarine is a Trafalgar class.
It's a British attack submarine.
And so what this second ED contingent does is it uses its very advanced technology to essentially create a acoustic hologram wall so that the submarine cannot find the entrance it's looking for.
Meanwhile, the San Onofre plant It has bad problems, and they open it up one of the reactors and inspect it.
The older tubes are horrendously eroded, but even the new tubes, which should have almost no erosion at all, are very badly eroded.
So something's up with that, and then there's one going in Chicago and other places, and oh, by the way, they seem to have a tendency to put nuclear Power generation sites ride on fault lines.
That's no accident.
It creates a time bomb, essentially.
And that fits in with the New World Order's desire to have a population of a billion, which requires removing 86% of the rest of us, or roughly 6.18 billion from the planet.
So if San Onofre goes up, it's going to kill tens of millions of people.
So they're screening.
My terrestrial contacts and I are trying to figure out what's going on.
We're looking at likely candidates.
Next thing I know, I get word they're going to take the sub, contingent two of the ETs.
They take the sub.
We start getting reports of what's going on and we tell them how to identify the sub.
The sub has no visible markings identifying which submarine it is.
So there are certain possibilities and so we tell them how to identify it based on something called the transverse bulkhead, which is to say one that runs perpendicular to the length of the hull.
On every vessel that's built, the transverse bulkhead bears, deeply stamped into the steel, the name and number of the vessel.
And all the compartments are numbered fore and aft from that bulkhead.
Well, on the bulkhead it said, turbulent, HMS turbulent, S87, which is the whole number, And so the fun begins.
And we're told it's carrying nuclear-armed tomahawks.
Well, control of nuclear weapons is a very, very serious issue.
So my contacts start beating the bushes.
And I'm happy to report, this is the good news, that every single Nuclear weapon of that class is exactly where it's supposed to be.
Nothing was missing from the inventory.
That's the good news.
The bad news is if they attack our nuclear-armed tomahawk, that says that somebody produced nuclear cruise missiles off books.
And we also had to consider the possibility That there might have even been a submarine manufactured off books.
Problem three is that we have a German crew.
We were told initially this was a German sub by the ETs.
And the word we're getting from them is it's all German.
It's German regular navy.
That the vessel sailed, that the crew was trained covertly.
Most of the crew doesn't require There's no additional special training other than what's different from on a diesel-electric, but there's the little matter of the atomic reactor.
The Germans operate no nuclear submarines whatsoever.
So that one had head-scratching, and there are investigations ongoing right now as to how and where that was done.
We think England.
And we think a lot of the training of the crew was done under guise of NATO cross-training and things like that.
We still don't know where the tomahawks came from.
We don't know for a fact that the warheads, which run, they're what they call dial-a-yield, run 5 to 150 kilotons, kiloton being a thousand tons of TNT equivalent.
We don't know where those came from or how.
The crew has been debriefed.
They're all German.
They're not Nazis like out of some Antarctica base or South America or anything like that.
And when last seen, the sealed orders had not been taken from the safe.
The crew was just directed, you know, get in the subs, sail here, go do this.
When you get to the entrance, open the sealed orders.
I don't know why the sealed orders haven't been opened.
I think it's got everything to do with a whole series of crises that have been occurring, not least of which is the second attempt by the New World Order to start World War III via the Persian Gulf.
What has happened since is that somebody sent a copy of the blog to the BBC. The BBC reportedly contacted the Royal Navy, and it's being claimed that the Royal Navy whistled up the sub on the radio and verified that it was in the Atlantic,
to which contingent two of the ETZDs are basically screaming Telepathically, they're lying that it's HMS Triumph that has been sent to the Falklands.
So apparently the Royal Navy is missing one of its Trafalgar-class subs, and the real proof of the pudding will be when it's returned to Earth.
And I have been told that they're thinking very seriously of using it as a quote-unquote long dart, dropping it someplace very prominent, It's almost 300 feet long, so if you stuck it in the ground up to its conning tower, say, vertically, there'd be 200 feet of it sticking in the air.
And that's where that matter stands at the moment.
Okay, but this is, you know, amazing information and quite bizarre.
There is the...
Sort of simultaneous occurrence of the breakdown in, you know, sort of leaks going on in San Onofre at the same time that this so-called false flag invasion of a sort was supposed to be happening.
Putting those two things together is kind of amazing.
It kind of boggles the mind.
I hear what you're saying.
I believe what you're saying about the weakening pipes and other problems they're having at San Onofre, that is more intuitive information than direct information.
Am I correct on that?
No, that's been publicly reported.
Well, I mean, we know what's been publicly reported about that, but what I'm saying is they're playing it very close to the chess.
They never publicly say, you know, the place is done for.
They are having meetings, I know, down there.
I actually heard a report or saw a report in the local community trying to can it, trying to get rid of it.
But that just makes sense because right now nuclear power is really on the outs with planet Earth anyway because of the impending Earth changes that are happening.
I was just wondering whether you had any other intelligence, whether it was intuitive, whether it was ET, or whether it was, you know, your intelligence sources that are telling you that there are internal problems that aren't being reported in the news.
No.
The information about the state of the pipes and whatnot was based on conventionally reported news.
Okay.
They described opening it up and actually inspecting the tubes, and they talked about unprecedented levels of erosion in even the new tubes in the reactor.
I don't have a link handy, but I got that from online news.
Okay, so unprecedented.
Okay, but unprecedented erosion could also be the result of the volcanism that's being reported on Dutch Sensen in other places, basically here in California, Southern California, 29 Palms area, as well as Santa Barbara and Mammoth, etc., etc.
Well, you're talking about the hot loop on the reactor.
Okay, the part that has the radioactive material running through it.
And so far as I know, you know, I mean they put clean water in it and things like that.
I'm talking about internal erosion of the pipes, not external erosion.
I'm talking about the part of the reactor through which the water flows.
I understand, but if it's unprecedented erosion, Something is causing it.
You know, I'm not a scientist, so I don't know what that something would be, but there is volcanism in the area, and along with volcanism, steam, etc., etc., you could have some disturbance, certainly, in a power plant that's in that vicinity.
But that's kind of off-topic, so whereas it is fascinating to me, because I live in the Southern California area, So I want to kind of move back into this story about the submarine.
So can you tell me, were your on-planet sources, at what points were they conveying the information to you about or verifying any of this information, if they were at all?
In other words, whether the crew was German, whether the sub has actually disappeared.
You see where I'm going?
Yes, I do.
This one was different in that it started with off-planet information.
And it has resulted in things like checking with the submarine commands.
Did we have any submarines operating off the coast at the time reported?
It has resulted in checking with, you know, checking our nuclear inventories.
It has resulted in, and I think there's still investigations going into this question of how did we manage to miss the Germans training an entire crew for a variety of submarine they don't operate?
How was the reactor training done and where?
Those things are all checkable in terms of terrestrial intelligence approaches.
And my contacts have been involved in winding various people up and, you know, making calls and looking into things and looking at sonar logs and ship movements and all that kind of thing.
Okay.
But I guess what I'm asking you is, and they were verifying.
Is that what you're saying?
I'm saying that the nuclear inventory security was verified, that every single nuclear warhead that could have been involved in this has been accounted for, every missile body has been accounted for, and that kind of thing.
We don't have firm answers yet on how the crew was trained, nor particularly the reactor crew.
We consider that the likelihood of an entire nuclear submarine was manufactured off books to be essentially zero at this point.
And as I say, the proof of the pudding that they really have the sub will be when they return it, and there it is.
But what about the crew themselves?
I mean, in other words, is there a way for your sources to be tracking who this crew is, where they came from, etc.?
If I had a bunch of names, probably, but I don't at this point.
I just know that the crew has been...
Interrogated and I should tell you that because of the difference in the way time works in the dimensions, a day here is about 30 on their end.
So at this point they've had the crew for months.
Okay.
Now, I know people are asking in the chat and they want you to describe the ETs, of course, and you've already said that you more or less aren't going to sort of say where they come from, per se, because we're in a war, and I fully agree with that.
However, Some of the actions and some of the statements that you sort of attributed to them makes them sound like they may not be necessarily groups that all have, let's say, humans' best interests in mind.
Am I wrong?
What is your perception on that?
I will say that the groups that I am involved with are humanoid, or human rather.
I am not sure myself about size differentials.
I've heard about some of these races being vastly larger than we are.
But I couldn't tell you off the top of my head how big this bunch is relative to us using conventional Earth measurements.
For my purposes, it doesn't matter.
I'm on a direct interdimensional telepathic link.
That particular ability is very scarce, even on their end.
They are definitely here on our side.
They've been waging war on the Lizards and the Greys and the Dracos for quite some time.
They know how they operate.
They've been smashing their bases.
There are other races here as well doing that kind of thing.
But I am not in contact with them.
I'm dealing with two different races and three or four individuals all told, some of whom are of those races but are here in terrestrial form.
I call them the ground contingent.
Okay.
The emphasis is unremittingly on stopping a war in the Persian Gulf from breaking out because now China has formally notified the US that if Iran is attacked by either Israel and or the US for that matter, That it will come into the war on the side of Iran.
Russia's already made that declaration.
So there is a tremendous potential for World War III if something bad happens in the Gulf.
And this is the second major attempt to do it.
We also have information That the Enterprise is to be the oldest nuclear carrier in our inventory, is to be used as a sacrificial lamb in an NWO operation.
Okay, now stop right there.
Sorry.
Okay.
Because that information has also been picked up by various people.
It was also put on Veterans Today.
Jim Fetzer, who I interviewed on my radio show, and his...
A partner that he works with made that public.
It originally came supposedly from an intelligence source.
In other words, that the enterprise would be used as a false flag.
That it's been moved into the Persian Gulf with that in mind, actually.
And that it was supposed to be mothballed, although that's not the terminology they use.
Put on the rocks?
I don't know.
Uh, by, by, you know, that craft, it was, it's sold.
And, and that, um, so, so where did you get your information in that regard?
Much the same sources, I would say, and then I started looking at it from the longer perspective of history.
If you know your history, you know that the Lusitania was set up for something very similar to what's being posited here.
The Lusitania was known to be transporting munitions of war, although ostensibly a neutral.
The German government Tried to put notices in all the major U.S. newspapers informing the American public that this was the case, and that because the vessel was carrying munitions of war, was subject to attack by submarine.
The State Department suppressed it in all but a couple of really obscure Midwestern newspapers.
The ship was ordered into a known U-boat area.
Under guise of conserving coal, the ship was required to operate on only one boiler, thus reducing its speed.
And the destroyer that was sent out to meet it was ordered turned away by the Admiralty at the last minute.
And a participant in The event later wrote of it, it was a damn dirty business, we all felt soiled.
There were, I forget what the casualties were, but the idea was to kill some Americans and bring America into the war.
Of this incident, Churchill later wrote, in war, supreme excellence in strategy consists of the unexpected introduction of a powerful ally.
Same stunt was tried in World War II with the Athenia.
And it didn't quite work.
Other versions of this, of course, apply to the train bombing or derailment in Arizona before the bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City.
In the case of the Enterprise, it actually would cost more to scrap the Enterprise than to get rid of her this way, so that makes it economically attractive.
Right, and that I have heard.
Now, what have you heard?
I guess what I'm trying to get at here is, in describing that, I can see that you're a good researcher, but are you getting ETED information in that regard?
No.
Not specifically, but I can tell you that as a result of that scenario, some very careful checks have been run on the Enterprise looking for explosives, any indication anybody's meddling with the reactors, things of that nature.
But it makes eminently good sense.
You send a vessel like that into an environment, the way the scenario is described is That the Israelis have submarines in the Persian Gulf, and they do.
They have three dolphin class.
One of them is supposed to torpedo and sink the Enterprise.
The Americans are supposed to be understandably outraged.
You're talking about five to six thousand people as the crew of an aircraft carrier of that size.
There would be massive casualties.
The U.S. public would get all incensed and we'd have a full-blown war on our hands, which is what the New World Order wants.
Okay, and what about your intelligence sources on the ground?
Have they given you anything in this regard?
Well, yes.
I just said that very careful searches have been done of the ship because there were supposed to be explosives in it and on it.
None has been found.
Also, the Iranians have warned against introducing carriers.
They warned against the reintroduction of carriers into the Gulf after we left the first time.
And they keep threatening to do it, and they have the means to do it very effectively because they have the export model of a Russian, what they call, super-cavitating torpedo.
It basically travels in an air bubble at 250 knots.
You can't really avoid it.
And they have said, you know, they've threatened to sink our carriers.
So it doesn't matter for NWO purposes whether the Israelis do it as a false flag, blame it on the Iranians, or whether the Iranians do it.
Either way, you get a war out of it.
Yeah, I understand that.
But our purpose here is to sort of drill down into the intel you're getting from both sides and kind of compare and contrast it to see where we're at.
Thank you for that.
But at this point, why don't we go to the SEAL Team 6 incident with Bin Laden?
Because this is a place where your intel, which sounds like it's on the ground intel, completely contradicts at least my intel.
And so I'm curious about that.
So why don't you sort of explain what you've got there?
Okay, I'd like to go back to what we were just discussing because I have two items that I think your listeners or viewers, whatever would be the right characterization, would find fascinating.
Okay.
Okay, the ETZDs have specifically warned against attacks on Iran, but they've also, basically they've said nobody is to commit aggression on anybody else.
In the past couple of days, the Iranians have been Practicing kamikaze attacks against the tankers, using speedboats armed with large quantities of explosives and contact fuses.
The rates for shipping are already through the roof, and gas prices have risen 40, 50 cents a gallon in consequence.
If even one tanker is hit, you're probably going to be looking at $6 or $7 a gallon gasoline, if not worse.
Yesterday, I believe it was yesterday, the Iranians mounted an attack.
They had 13 of these things buzzing around, and US warships were present, tanker crews were present, and everything else, and they all vanished.
They were coming in on attack runs, and poof, they were gone.
Okay, and this again is coming to you from your on-the-ground sources as well as your ET or just one?
That is correct.
Both angles?
That is correct.
Thirteen of these suicide explosive boats vanished in plain sight of dozens if not hundreds of people's eyes.
They were coming in at high speed one instant and gone the next.
I should also tell you that the most advanced submarine in the Iranian Navy abruptly was lost.
There was a big disturbance in the water and it was gone.
Our submarines that are there to protect the carrier battle groups went nuts looking for it.
It's nowhere to be found and it's nowhere to be found because the ETEVs took it.
And there are other bad things that are going to happen to the Iranians, because the Iranians were the ones who funded the very closely held, you know, we're in the middle of a Cuban Missile Crisis right now, Carrie, and the American public does not have the story.
The Iranians funded the purchase of 40 North Korean stretched copies of a Russian submarine-launched ballistic missile.
Warheads include dirty bombs and various forms of biological warfare agents.
These were paid for by Iran and shipped to Venezuela, and that issue is being worked as we speak.
But this has particularly incurred the wrath of the ETs, EDs, who view it as very highly escalatory.
But the story has been all but completely squashed in the mainstream news.
But we have missiles in Venezuela that are fully fueled and armed, aimed right down our throats.
They can cover almost every state in the contiguous 48.
Right.
Okay.
And so at this moment, what's the status on all of it?
Do you know?
I'm sitting on part of it because there are certain developments underway and I don't wish to interfere with those.
There are solutions being warped, I would say, would be a good way to put it.
And when the situation is resolved, I will report that.
Okay, but...
But it's not.
Things are up in the air and very volatile at the moment.
Okay, but if we...
The players in the part of what's volatile, as you call it, this kind of...
You're sort of...
Comparing it to the Cuban Missile Crisis, so the players involved, how much do they know, or what do they know exactly?
Is this information that Iran purchased these, I don't know, are they ballistic missiles?
Is that what you would call them?
Yes, they're modified copies of Russian submarine-launched ballistic missiles.
But they're on ground launchers.
Okay, and they purchased them from the Koreans?
The North Koreans?
Yeah, Iran purchased them from the North Koreans.
Some of the dirty bomb material, apparently the Pakistanis supplied the dirty bomb material, and Iran also paid for shipment to Venezuela.
Okay, and this information came to you, is this in the news at all?
I understand there's been a Tiny bit, I haven't seen it myself, but a tiny bit which was swiftly suppressed.
This is coming from my excellent contacts.
U.S. intelligence is aware of the missiles.
The missiles have been imaged.
The status of the missiles has been continuously monitored.
Reconnaissance has been mounted and we're keeping a very close eyeball on the situation.
But we haven't been in this situation since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And whereas the American public knew about that one, it doesn't know about this one.
Okay, well, if anybody's listening to us, then maybe they will start to know.
But at this moment, are you saying...
So what's the status of the Venezuelan government in respect to Iran and then also in respect to the U.S.? Venezuela is openly antagonistic to us and is aligned with Iran, is aligned with Russia, and is aligned with China.
It is a new power block unto itself.
Okay.
So, okay.
Do you want to say any more about that before we leave the subject?
I would say that's enough for now.
Well, let's actually say when did this happen.
Because purchasing these missiles and then transporting them takes time, right?
It does, yes.
So when did this happen?
Do you know?
Well, we detected them...
Shortly, I believe, after they were landed in Venezuela.
Not until then?
That's my understanding.
And then we went looking for where they came from, at which point I got some specific information from the upstairs contingent that, you know, where they originated from, and then the terrestrial sites started looking at What ships might be involved and things like that.
But no, we did not detect that missiles were being moved until they actually arrived in Venezuela.
That's my understanding.
Okay, and when you say we, you're talking about your sources?
I mean, because it's quite possible that You know, there are sources that your sources don't know and that this government could have been well aware of the whole situation, right?
I would say that based on the kind of access my contacts have, that as soon as something like that would have surfaced in terms of information within the intelligence community, it would have been known immediately.
That kind of stuff is of such criticality that it has to be dealt with straight away.
Okay, but you're saying, consequently, you think that because they weren't interfered with on route.
We, from everything I've been able to tell, we didn't know anything about it until...
The missiles arrived and were unloaded in Venezuela at Maracaibo.
Okay, and just can you reiterate how many missiles and what their capability is or whatever?
2,800 nautical mile range.
Which basically covers almost the entire continental United States, operating out of Maracaibo, 40 missiles.
We thought at first they might have nuclear warheads on it, but Pakistan's nuclear technology won't support it, and neither will North Korea's.
They don't have the miniaturization technology.
So it has to be dirty bombs.
We know that North Korea's bio-warfare Facilities were involved.
That's been reported.
And to include the effect that there's one that dissolves the lungs on contact.
So you've got 20 launchers.
They're what they call MAS 543s, the same thing that you saw in the Gulf War used to transport the Scuds.
The North Koreans stretched the Russian R-27 submarine-launched ballistic missile to the point where it It hit exactly the maximum carrying capacity of the MAS-543.
That increased the range and whatnot, and so they call that, they call the missile, the basic missile, the Masoudan, and I decided that To keep it sorted out from the other one, I call the stretched one the Masoudan Mod 1.
So that's what it's referred to as in my blog.
And that is what they put 20 launchers and 40 missiles worth of into Venezuela under the control of the rather insane Hugo Chavez.
Okay.
Now, okay, so at this moment, this is going on right this minute, and you are not willing to give us the intel that you're getting from the ETs, is that correct?
Because it's a moving target.
And I'm not trying to pressure you, I'm just trying to get...
I'm in a little bit of a bind here, Carrie.
No problem.
There are ongoing operations on both ends, which is to say terrestrial things are happening and not terrestrial things are happening.
And there are some very interesting interactions between them and right now it would be inappropriate for me to say anything because it might screw something up.
Okay, well, we don't want necessarily an international incident to take place here on this live stream.
Well, too late.
I've already caused several with my blog.
Okay.
Well, I guess so.
So, at this moment, I'm not sure...
Well, there are a lot of ways we could drill down into that incident, obviously.
I don't know if any of it's going to hit the news.
Alright, so I'm just going to move on for now, and then maybe we'll come back to it.
I'd like to get to the SEAL Team 6 incident, if we can.
Certainly.
The information that I was given is obviously sourced out of very knowledgeable people who have intimate details of the mission at their disposal.
That is how, for example, the ghost talk entered into it.
That is how I got the information on what the mission was originally, how the mission was originally to be structured.
With air cover in case the Pakistani Air Force quote-unquote got frisky and whatnot.
And when Obama ordered the coverage removed, the Navy on its own hook decided to put up a PA-6B prowler and jam the living daylights out of the Pakistani Air Defense Network to protect the mission.
There was to have been a couple of what they call Ghost Hawk helicopters, which are super quiet acoustically, they were not viable absent top cover, so they were removed from the mission.
So Obama badly damaged the mission by forcing the removal of several key components in the original plan.
The Stealth Hawks, which are radar absorbent material coated Black Hawk helicopters, Extremely rare were brought in from Area 51, where they are normally based.
They were flown by specially trained pilots.
Tell me a little bit about what you know about SEAL Team 6, if anything.
I've read a little bit that you wrote on this topic.
Did your intelligence sources give you information about the team itself?
They did.
SEAL Team 6 is referred to as the Jedi's because of the standard of training.
Every SEAL team in the Navy has a training budget specifically for ammunition which exceeds that of the entire Marine Corps.
And SEAL Team 6 is the best trained of all the SEAL teams.
It is referred to as the Jedis.
And Red Team of SEAL Team 6...
Was involved in the operation and it was Red Team that was killed when the helicopter was shot down subsequently.
Okay, and is it your understanding that those individuals were actually taken out because they might have talked?
I believe that could be the case.
They definitely knew things.
Okay, and you know this because, one, you're an intuitive, two, because you have been given that information from the ET sources, or three, because you've been given that information from your ground sources.
The last.
The ground sources.
The last.
Excellent intelligence contacts.
Okay, but they do say that Osama bin Laden was there and taken out.
Yes, they do.
He was identified by his youngest wife, a 29-year-old Yemeni woman whose name I gave in the article.
They took DNA samples and whatnot and they photographed him and they measured him and things like that.
He's exceptionally tall or an Arab.
And they looked at the evidence.
They also brought out a lot of material in terms of computer hard drives and video and things of that sort as well.
I can tell you that he was taken to the Carl Vinson.
I can tell you that his body was gone over very carefully.
I can tell you that they used super advanced, rapid genetic testing equipment.
That's how the government was able to do what brought so much condemnation on it, which was produce DNA results in two hours.
The normal methods, the best, the fastest one can do is a day, but typically two and more commonly a week.
They were actually able to do, according to my sources, multiple tests within an hour or so, and then the rest of it was reporting back through the chain of command to Washington.
So they didn't even take two hours in total to run multiple tests of him against Bin Laden family members and things of that sort.
Okay, and are you familiar with Peter Beter?
I'm becoming increasingly more so with each passing day, I would say.
Okay, then are you aware of the idea of doubles?
Pardon?
Oh, I do.
I do.
You're aware of doubles?
Yes, and I can also tell you that I have recently learned of my horror that there is no way to tell a dead double from...
The actual person.
The genetic material is exactly the same because it comes from the same genetic pool, if you would.
You can tell them apart when They're alive because one of these doubles has only a head aura instead of a full body aura.
And I know of some people who can tell by the vibe, by the way they move and things like that.
And if you've got somebody who's been repeatedly cloned, if you would, each time the hologramic Memory matrix is inserted.
You get more and more noise in the signal, so the clone gets progressively wonkier and less obviously human.
Okay, and do you know which of our leaders have been cloned?
I'm sorry?
Have your intelligence sources given you which of our leaders have been cloned?
Not specifically.
The ones that I have been dealing with had very little knowledge of it, and frankly, one of my other contacts thought this was shocking because years ago, this person got a call at a magazine, a kind of a whistleblower magazine, from a general who informed this person of the existence of such.
But I've been kind of educating my contacts since on this particular subject and I've read a bunch of things on it and I found a very good link that I posted on my site as well regarding this particular matter and what it did was it correlated very well with this other person's information but that person came by it Through an entirely different set
of chain of events.
Okay.
So, at the moment, let's see, is there anything else that you can sort of talk about in regard to SEAL Team 6, the Bin Laden information, that hasn't already gone onto your blog, or that the audience would find of special interest that might validate Sort of, in an exceptional way, your sources.
I would say no at this point, because I've been so wrapped up in this trying to stop World War III from breaking out in the Persian Gulf thing, not to mention dealing with a government Doing everything possible as fast as possible to enslave us and, you know, institute the new world order.
Congress is turning out one law after another, which is just terrifying if you care about the Constitution.
So I've moved on.
I may get some other information at some point.
It has been bruited about that maybe, you know, Unless you have an actual sample from the person you're testing against, all you can do is establish that the person's out of the family tree, not necessarily that it's the person.
If you have somebody who looks a lot like somebody and you haven't seen the object of your attack, let's say, in a long time, There's a possibility you may not have gotten the right person.
And that is being looked into, but I don't have much beyond that.
Okay, well, then let's drill down to this at least.
You agree that it's very likely that those members of the Red Seal Team 6 were taken out.
That was too much of a coincidence.
It's the perfect kind of sort of accident where they...
The black projects take out a group of targets.
This kind of thing goes on all the time so that they won't talk later.
But why would they be taken out?
What was the incident?
Because if you acknowledge that it's quite possible that bin Laden wasn't actually taken out then, that he died back in 2002 or 2003, as I recall, according to all my intel, and that's pretty vast and pretty and that's pretty vast and pretty dependable, and you could easily say that if that were true then they would be taken out because they knew the truth of who was taken out and the substitute or the body and you could easily say that if that were
You know, the substitute or the body double or whoever it was.
But if you don't buy that story, as clearly you don't in theory, based on your blog, then why would they be taken out?
Any ideas?
Any intel?
Well, I would say first of all that The relationship between the President and Special Forces is very strained.
The Special Forces have been basically gutted.
All that's really left of them these days is Delta, which some in the community consider to be suspect, and the SEALs.
You've got the PJs, the para-rescue types, but they are not combat troops.
The Rangers have been decertified as Special Forces.
They're still allowed to wear their Ranger tabs.
Okay, there's sort of a love-hate relationship there.
I can tell you that the Jedis that participated in the mission believed absolutely at the time that they got the right guy.
He was so identified by his wife.
Navy corpsmen patched up the wife, by the way, performed surgery, removed the bullet in the leg that cleared her out of the path of bin Laden.
He used her as a human shield.
And it was going for his special cut down Kalashnikov at the time he was taken out.
But that But again, why would these...
The question is why the SEAL team members were then basically killed, taken out after the fact.
What did they know?
Are you able to speculate or do you have intel either from your off-world or your on-world sources as to why they'd be taken out?
Because that's a substantial issue.
Oh, I agree.
I think it could be fairly argued that that mission was, based on the presidential intervention, designed to fail. based on the presidential intervention, designed to fail.
And that one of the purposes that seems reasonable to me is that the SEALs could start talking about what the plan was versus what actually happened.
In other words, they were in a position to make the president look bad.
You know, he gets covered with glory because bin Laden is dead.
But if it comes out that the president practically gutted the mission right at the starting gate, then, you know, he doesn't get the brownie points for doing that.
But actually, that did come out.
Pardon?
That did come out.
Well, initially it didn't.
You know, yeah, there were some problems and there were some official lies told.
The helicopter, for example, did not crash coming in.
It crashed leaving as it went over the fence.
That was one of the stealth hawks.
There were other things that were said that weren't true.
So, The SEALs don't like to be used for political purposes.
That's not what they're about.
They're in there to get a job done, do it quietly.
They were compromised by Joseph Biden.
They didn't want any publicity.
The job was to go in, do the job, get out, and have nobody know who had been there.
It was thought that it would be blamed on Delta.
But then Joe Biden ran his mouth.
So their operational security was compromised.
Their mission was compromised after it was planned, when the forces were en route.
In fact, they were already in theater in Afghanistan.
And at the last minute, these changes were made.
And it's fortunate for us that there was someone in the Navy with The moral fortitude and male equipage to order up the EA-6B or the mission might have been a complete bust.
They could have been blown out of the sky by Pakistani air defense, potentially.
So the SEALs felt, I think it's fair to say, betrayed by their commander-in-chief.
And so you're positing that that's why they were taken out.
I think they could have made the president look bad, not because they thought they got the wrong guy, but because he sabotaged the mission, certainly in their view.
He deprived them of a whole series of important assets that were specifically planned for, that were very expensive, that in some cases were unique, and they were taken out, this forced Crash replanning, which is never good when you're executing an operation of this sort.
Okay.
I'm sorry to move you along here, and I appreciate that you have a great attention to detail, and you are making every effort to answer my question.
We need to move off the subject, but I do want to just say...
What you've established here, though, in terms of you agree and you have intelligence that agrees that this SEAL team was eliminated.
Absolutely.
What we can't, or what I'm not getting in a really clear way, is whether your intelligence...
Gave you specifics as to why they were taken out.
So they were taken out, but we don't know why.
And what you're telling me is you're kind of conjecturing or coming to a conclusion, a logical conclusion, I agree, that their mission was interfered with by the president, etc., etc., Therefore, no one wanted them to talk about that aspect.
But was that literally what your intelligence sources had told you?
Or did you never ask why they were taken out?
What I was told was more the how than the why.
I was told that Operational procedures were violated in the mission that resulted in the loss of that portion of the Jedi's that had participated in the attack on bin Laden's compound.
Normally you never have that many of them together in one place.
Orders were cut.
that brought them together in that way that information regarding the route of the helicopter was leaked they were set up to be killed and it is my understanding that there have been consequences applied since to by way of sending a message That this is known and not appreciated.
And that's about all I feel safe in saying on that score.
Let's just say they didn't take the matter lying down.
Okay, that's interesting.
All right.
Well, you know, I guess I don't know if you're aware of a recent ex-Navy SEAL that I interviewed by the name of Bill Wood originally, but now he's out under his original name or his real name, Bill Brockbrader.
Are you aware of him?
I know of him, yes.
But you didn't see the interview, I take it?
I read the transcript.
Oh, you did?
Okay.
Yes, I did.
Okay, so it's just an interesting sort of synchronicity that we've got SEAL team stuff going on here.
And, you know, so I think that bears keeping an eye on.
There seems to be something in the wind as to why SEAL teams or members and so on may be a liability from the point of view of the powers that be at this time.
Well, they do the...
The wet work, as they call it.
Wet, referring to the spilling of blood.
For the government, in the case of Bill Wood, my personal jury is out, but I will tell you that I've talked to my contacts and there is no SEAL Team 9.
There is no evidence of The special tomahawks that are described and there's no evidence of such operations that have been conducted and I will say that my contacts have fabulous information coming out of the SEAL community.
Okay, well, you probably aren't aware that a recent piece of intelligence that came forward is that one of his trainers in BUDS, as they call it, has now come forward in the public and stated unequivocally that he did train him.
Okay, no, I was not aware of that.
The drown-proofing thing, I knew from some documentaries that I'd seen.
I think it was called Making the Cut on TLC. I was familiar with the basic concept there, but his unwillingness to release his BUDS class number, that is unclassified according to my contacts, and he should have been willing to give you that right off the starting gate in order to establish his bona fides.
Okay.
Well, I don't want...
I appreciate that.
But at this moment, actually, I didn't want to kind of go too far down that road.
And thank you for at least, you know, giving your intel on the background there, because I think people will find that interesting and valuable, at least as sort of more information to compare and contrast.
But what I'd like to do now is...
Look at the situation that you've got going here because you are interacting with, as I said, two sides of the equation.
One is a group of VTs who are intervening in human affairs to a substantial degree, and the other is our sources that appear to be vetted much in the way that we vet our sources.
In other words, you triangulate, you get individuals from three different angles that come together with the same information, and then you begin to believe that that actually, you know, has legs, so to speak.
And that's a very solid way of vetting information.
On top of it, you're an intuitive.
I've had evidence of that for myself.
I'm not sure if the audience has, but, you know, if you want to kind of give them any evidence in that regard, you're welcome to.
So at this moment, we've actually been going longer than the two hours that normally we try to do one of these for in terms of a one-on-one, and so you've been really under the gun here.
Would you like to share any particular information beyond what we've covered here, bits and pieces, things that you think we should be aware of?
Yes, and I will have to go as long as you are willing to go because I've got all the time in the world and I love to talk about this stuff.
I would say that people should be aware that the ETZDs have said that they are going to take apart the NWO. They are determined to extirpate it from the planet.
They are going to seek to limit, to the greatest extent possible, any loss of human life.
But they are going to make their presence felt.
And as I indicated earlier in the show, they've already done that in a bunch of ways.
And that's just the warm-up act.
Things are going to start happening that the government simply will not be able to deny, will not be able to cover up, no matter what it does.
There will be public demonstrations of things.
They may not show you ships, but they will show you things happening that will absolutely boggle the mind.
Things may get moved around.
Things may disappear.
Okay, do you know anything?
I think I've already asked you this offline.
You know, off camera, so to speak, but did you know anything, did your ET contacts give you any information about Elenin or YU55? Yes, they did.
Not about Elenin.
I didn't have the blog up at that stage of the game.
But YU55, I was informed by my terrestrial contacts that We were going to launch an intercept operation, and somewhere in there, I think, is where the ETEZDs got involved,
because it was reported to me, we basically kludged together an intercept weapon, an Atlas Centaur with a surplus Russian three-megaton warhead on it and launched it.
This brought the disinformation agents out on me.
Something very strange happened.
The warhead, you know, I got a report, you know, the warhead went off and everything, and the EMP was detected, the electromagnetic pulse was detected by two different radio observatories.
All well and good.
Next thing I know, one of my contacts is telling me The three megaton blast did nothing whatsoever to YU55, the asteroid.
And then I get information that says that, and I may have this a little out of sequence, so bear with me, but through Russian channels, they were reporting That they were monitoring something that was coming from, they thought, the asteroid, and it sounded for all the world like cats, which is why in my blog I refer to them as cat people, and that's what the Russians were referring to them as.
And I made a connection kind of intuitively, and also just because that particular set of memory...
Cells kicked in, that the Egyptians had actually worshipped cats and mummified cats and things like that, and that the cat was very, very significant to the Egyptians.
So my thought was that maybe the cat people had visited Egypt in ancient times, and that's how that got started.
But I was specifically told by my terrestrial contacts that the asteroid made some radical course changes.
At the time, it was headed in such a way that it would have hit the Pacific and would have caused a tremendous reverberating tsunami.
And interestingly enough, UNESCO had exercised Pacific Wave 11 in process right in the strike window, and the planning on that started at least three years out, so they knew it was coming.
But what the ET's What they told me is that they had intervened in the way they did to protect not just Earth and the people of Earth, but to protect the innocent beings on YU-55, which I was given to understand had an outpost.
They were going to surveil the Earth on this flyby, what's called a slingshot in The aerospace trade, where you come by a planet, you use the gravity, you whip back around the other side.
But the asteroid's flight path had gotten perturbed.
Some have argued it was something called a Krulian ship.
I don't know.
Neither did my ETED contacts.
All they knew was it got somehow thrown off course.
They intervened and what they did was they put a force field around the blast.
They contained the explosive force of three million tons of TNT and they took the asteroid up to a higher orbit and speeded it up dramatically so it won't endanger the Earth anymore.
Okay.
So, at this moment, I guess, let's see, we were kind of wrapping this part up, and we were talking about sort of things that you wanted to tell people that we hadn't covered, per se.
And I appreciate you answering that question in that context.
But at this moment, in terms of 2012...
Why don't we just, you know, and then I will go to see what the people that are writing questions madly in the chat.
I don't know if you were able to watch.
On livestream there's a chat, so people have been asking questions nonstop.
And so it's quite interesting.
What people are saying and, you know, they're covering a huge wide spectrum.
But I know that they're going to want to know is because you are in contact with these off-planet source groups.
And then you also have some very high level on-planet individuals.
What I would like to know is, from both sides that you cover, what have you gotten about this year, 2012, and even December 21st, 2012, if you want to drill down to that kind of detail, and maybe 2013 and anything in that regard?
I haven't had any major discussions with either set of informants, if you would, specific to 2012.
The focus has been on dealing with a seemingly endless and ever-growing succession of crises, some of which forced the postponement of dealing with previous crises, because the resources at this stage of the game are Despite the off-planet help severely limited, there are only so many things that can be done.
So, you know, you've got to keep a war from breaking out in the Persian Gulf.
You've got to keep the radiation from Fukushima from killing everybody.
You've got to deal with the San Onofre thing.
You've got to deal with, you know, now you've got missiles in Venezuela in the hands of a nut job.
You've got people trying to create wars.
You've also got the super volcano issue, right?
Yeah, and my understanding is that there's a force field around the Earth that is deliberately being used to prevent major destructive events from occurring, which feeds right back into people like us, because it means we're forced to live with constant strain and pain because the planet does not get any substantive relief.
Okay?
You know, you don't get a big volcanic eruption that takes the pressure down, or you don't get a quake that lifts the weight of the world off your shoulders, both figuratively and literally to some degree.
Okay, good point, good point.
The magnetic pole is moving at a much, much faster rate than the government's willing to admit, but if you don't think the magnetic pole is moving, do a little research on airport Runway renumbering.
The numbers on the airport runway are specific to the location of the magnetic pole.
And it's moving at something like 40 miles a year, I believe, now.
It's galloping, okay?
So things are changing.
The Earth has lost so much ice from the polar caps that it is actually reshaping from what they call A prolate spheroid, which is to say if you had a ball and you mashed it down from the top and bottom,
it would bulge out at the middle to more closely resembling a regular spheroid, more nearly resembling a ball because the weight of the polar caps has been taken off and it's reshaping itself, which probably has some interesting implications for mapmakers and things.
The amount of seismic activity has more than doubled in the last 10 years.
We're seeing incredible natural disasters, but we're also seeing a lot of stuff that's engineered through technologies like HAARP and things of that nature.
And by the way, the word has been passed, and they have the means to enforce this, that any time a HAARP Fires to do, you know, evil.
And there are good things you can do with HAARP. You can prevent a quake from flattening a major city.
They are going to remove the HAARP. It will be a smoking hole in the ground.
They're deadly serious about this.
Wait, wait, wait.
What do you mean they're going to remove the HAARP? They're going to destroy it utterly.
That installation will cease to be.
And they have the weaponry to do it.
And there are a lot more installations on this planet than people know.
I was just going to say that you're aware that there's more than one, right?
Russia's got something like 20 alone.
Okay.
So...
All right.
Okay, that's interesting.
Anything else?
I'm just kind of a laundry list, and I appreciate you doing this, in terms of...
What they're trying to prevent, I guess, would be more like it.
Now, this group of ETs, they are at war, so they're also dealing with groups that have other plans, right?
Right.
Well, yes.
For example, there are shoot-on-sight orders against the Reptoids and the Greys.
Just last week, I think it was, I may be wrong on this, and I will doubtless hear about it from upstairs if I screw it up, but basically an incoming reptoid ship was dealt with.
It was destroyed before it could get to Earth, and a Well, actually, one ship was leaving Earth and was destroyed almost as soon as it exited the atmosphere.
Another one had come in through a stargate and was destroyed right around by Saturn.
Okay, so they're not allowing any reinfestations to occur.
They're not allowing anybody to leave.
They are going to kill all of them.
Okay, now, I mean, just in terms of ET, well, exo-politics, whatever you want to call it, stating something of that nature, the way you are, is quite an aggressive statement.
You know what I'm saying?
Mm-hmm.
Well, the characterization which I was given of the Greys is, quote, they are parasites, unquote.
And some of the ETEDs that I deal with have intimate knowledge of the whole way the greys operate and the reptoids operate.
We are talking about civilizations that have been around for Tens of millions of years.
We are talking about races which are by any normal human standards immortal.
We are talking about technologies that make even the most advanced things in our black programs look like tinker toys by comparison.
I understand.
Way beyond one comparison somebody made where You know, they said the difference between us and the UFO technology is like trying to ask a caveman to figure out and build an SR-71.
We're talking levels, many powers of ten above that in terms of things.
And I've indicated in the last post that I made on my blog that Israel is facing being de-industrialized in about a second if it doesn't behave.
They have the ability to kill off Israel as a modern industrial society and destroying even the machine tools.
Okay, but are you and the groups you're in Sort of communication with.
Aware of the ETs that are backing Israel, because there is a very strong group backing Israel.
I haven't heard of one so far.
Okay.
I do know of two that are backing China.
Okay.
That I just found out about.
One has definitely identified, the other one, the problems being work.
And there are very real concerns about technology transfer to China from those groups.
Yes, that coincides with intel I've gotten.
Were you told anything about the specific groups?
I mean, I was told the name of One race, and I was told that they lived with the Chinese, not in underground bases or anything like that, that they've been there for some time.
I'm aware that Russia has a connection of long-standing with a specific group.
Can you be more specific?
In other words, what is the group that China is dealing with?
Because, well, I have also been told that China has got two groups they're dealing with, but one in particular that's supposed, the way they were termed was newcomers.
I have not heard that term.
I can say that with all honesty and candor.
Until right now, I have not heard that term ever used.
Okay.
If you give me a moment, I will check upstairs and see what I can say about the China situation.
Okay, well we can definitely give you a moment.
And in the meanwhile, I will go and see.
I don't think, I really don't have anyone to help me collect these questions that are going by me rapidly in the chat.
So I'm going to have to catch as catch can.
And I'm going to have to catch up on.
Okay, I have been given clearance to tell you this.
The primary group that the Chinese are working with are referred to as the elder race.
I don't have much detail beyond that.
They're a very, very, very old race and they have some incredible technology at their disposal.
Which may in turn relate to something one of my terrestrial contacts told me about a Chinese electronics type who got up at an international conference and made a statement to the effect that you have no comprehension at all of how advanced our electronics are these days.
Which was a very provocative statement to make.
And now Operating from an intuitive perspective and also from a deductive perspective, I kind of understand where that's coming from.
You know, they've gotten our electronic manufacturing know-how because we've shipped our factories over there as part of NWO policies.
They've robbed us blind on the espionage front, and Israel has robbed us blind and sold the type to China.
But I think that the real leverage here is the off-planet, more like de facto on-planet connection the Chinese have.
I will give you an example of technology even much younger races have.
They have the ability to put up a An energy field which can block all reconnaissance satellite operations.
You can hide an entire city using this technology.
Okay, and what about Planet X, Nibiru incoming planets in our solar system currently?
No discussions have been made on that because we've been in full-blown dealing with crisis.
Okay.
That has been the focus.
The forces that I'm dealing with are here to crush the NWO. I hear you.
But the NWO is also very activated and put forward by China.
So by default, that means that they may be at war with these particular groups that China is working with.
They may be.
We haven't had any discussions on that.
Okay, and what about a so-called, there's a couple things, a Chinese and, let's see, robotic android invasion scenario that our military has been, at least in black projects, working to plan for?
Okay, I need some clarification here, Carrie.
Are you saying we're trying to set it up, or we're trying to prepare to defend against it?
Well, okay, are you in your contacts aware of the building of a robotic race of, in essence, very human-like, almost androids, whatever you want to call them, of military troops that are built by both us underground of military troops that are built by both us underground and standing by in readiness for a future war with China and China doing the same thing?
I'm aware of the super soldier thing.
I'm aware of some of that, but I am not specifically aware, nor has there been any discussion From the off-planet contingents regarding stockpiling of androids or whatever you want to call them for a war between us and China.
Okay.
But it actually starts out between us and China, but ends up to be between...
Our group of whatever you want to call them and off-planet groups of some kind.
Okay, well, I haven't been exposed to any of this.
Okay, that's fine.
It's no problem.
I can tell you that the groups that I deal with are in the process of killing off clone synthetic slash robitoid facilities Whenever and wherever found.
Okay, and what is their relationship to Dulcie?
I think Dulcie is going to make a wonderful museum display before they're through with it.
They consider it a horror.
And they want to show people that, you know, what's been going on and things like that.
I proposed Turning it into the equivalent of an ant farm, where you could get a look at it in section, and that was received with glee by Contingent 2.
Okay, what about the notion that there is a U.S. Space Command that goes off-planet in interstellar?
Are you aware of that?
Yes.
And it will be the subject of...
I'm very much in the process of gathering information on it.
I can confirm that it exists.
There are other sources that have provided certain data that is also helpful.
But I will be making heavy use of my off-planet contacts to get a lot of material that would be otherwise completely unobtainable.
It is much blacker than, say, Area 51.
I kind of quote Ben Rich, who died a while back, but he said at a conference shortly before his death from cancer, anything you can imagine doing, we've done already.
And that should give the listeners some sense of just how advanced our technology is.
But our technology against even the youngest off-planet race is risible.
It's a joke.
I'm sorry, what was that word that you used?
Is what?
Risible.
Laughable.
Our technology is a joke.
Okay, okay.
Compared to what they have.
I understand.
Yes, of course.
Okay, I'm going to start asking you questions that I'm finding in the chat.
So bear with me because they'll jump all over the map.
But I actually have to ask you one or two others.
I'm sorry because I have a huge amount of knowledge as you can...
I appreciate from all the whistleblower testimony I've been getting for the past over six years.
And so it's a lot of fun to kind of compare notes with somebody who, even though we're in a live setting here, which I certainly don't mind, just to see what it is you think you know, what it is you know, and what it is you've been told.
And what it is you've heard nothing about.
It's just always very interesting to get those, you know, all that information sort of.
And that's actually my way of vetting you, if you will, and your sources to some degree.
So what have you been told about Phobos?
Phobos.
Let me think.
It's been mentioned to me, but I don't remember the details.
I know that there was a Russian probe that went to Phobos.
There was a shadow scene and the probe disappeared.
That was many years ago.
I saw that on Hoagland.
It came up a while back, but I honestly don't remember the details.
Okay.
What have you been told about the Anunnaki?
It hasn't been specifically discussed at all.
Again, my focus has been on dismantling the NWO and keeping war from breaking out.
That is the focus of the groups I've been working with.
Okay.
And what have you been told about Obama's relationship to the military?
He doesn't seem to like the American military, but I haven't had any real discussions about it. but I haven't had any real discussions about it.
Okay.
What have you been told, if anything, about the economic situation in the U.S. and the world, for that matter?
The only thing I can tell you about the economic situation, and this is coming from the off-planet side, is that with the departure of at least some of the international banksters,
and there's a lot of mopping up and whatnot going on, and you've got a lot of clones and whatnot floating around in this equation, that the opinion of the universities of evolution varies between they think the economic system is salvageable to they think it isn't.
It is a real Gordian Knot, but you'd have to project the Gordian Knot into several hyperdimensions.
It's that bad, it's that complicated, and it's got booby traps galore through it.
Okay, what have you been told?
You say they want to get rid of the New World Order, right?
Yes.
What have they told you about the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers?
Nothing specific.
I know about the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers through my own research and things that other people have told me and things like that.
But I have had no discussions with the off-planet contingent on Rothschilds and Rockefellers.
Other than the removal of the international banksters, which automatically subsumes both groups.
Okay, when you say removal, are you talking about, is this where, because I know at one point in your blog you were talking about banksters, I thought you meant in the U.S., disappearing and going off-planet.
They were talking about The international banking oligarchy, the families, for example, that own the privately held Federal Reserve, the black nobility, the Queen of England, who apparently has some stupendous sums of money squirreled away, and yet the British have to finance her every year.
All that kind of thing.
The central banks that run the world, if you would.
Okay, but you have said that I believe your sources, and I believe this is your off-world sources, have said that some of these families are in the process of going off-planet or being taken off-planet.
Is that correct?
Yes.
Yes.
Unfortunately, it was discovered that...
They got a lot of clones, and apparently that wasn't planned for, that beings were found where they should have been found and taken, and it was later discovered they didn't get the right ones.
I guess adjustments have been made, but I have gotten very little information on that side of things because, as I say, you know, An imminent war trumps that.
They do the banksters, which many people use short for banker gangsters, so the international banksters who are the ones responsible for the endless cycles of war and boom and bust, who define the fate of countries, who are political kingmakers and everything.
You know, it's been said that one day of war is better than a year of peace in terms of the money they make.
That while dealing with that is important, stopping that war from breaking out in the Persian Gulf is absolutely vital because in very short order you could find yourself in World War III and the ETZTs are absolutely determined to prevent it.
And what they did with the suicide boats is an example of their willingness to intervene directly to stop it.
And that is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of what they're capable of doing.
Okay, well, if they are who they say they are, we do understand that.
Have they told you anything about the Bush family and its hold over the U.S.? They have not.
Okay.
Have they said anything about the revaluing of the Iraqi dinar?
They have not.
Have they said anything about, and this goes for both of your sources when I ask you these questions, alright?
Okay.
Have they said anything about impending solar activity?
No.
No?
No.
Again, very, very task-focused.
Okay, so, and this is since, well, I know November, you were saying November, but really when I think you started publishing actively was January, right?
I'd say that's about right, yeah.
I was kind of getting my feet wet, learning how to do a few things, but yeah.
Okay, because I tried to go back into your blog, and I believe it didn't take me back much farther than that, as far as this kind of information, because when you first came out the gate, you weren't really going in this direction.
Let's see.
So, since January, your focus has been, and they have been sort of communicating with you, again, so people understand, because of your unique position and your background, With respect to the defense industry, your understanding of the above-top secret and secret intelligence, that whole arena.
In other words, you can talk the talk.
I can, yes.
And you understand the logistics in terms of nuts and bolts and world situations.
But it doesn't sound like you've had discussions About future events to any large degree.
Is that because you really have only been focusing on the ground?
Yeah, as I say, the two primary things I indicated are what they're all about.
And it has been repeatedly made clear to me that that is, in fact, The case.
There are other races.
There's a race of scientists, for example, that I know of but have no communication with that may be involved with that.
And there are other groups doing other things.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
A race?
A race?
Did you say a race of scientists?
That is exactly what I said.
And they are involved with what?
Well, they do scientific pursuits.
Okay, you mean a race of beings that are sort of scientists?
They are, yeah, they're a race of scientists.
That is what they're all about.
And these are off-worlders, or are they on Earth?
No, these are off-worlders.
For example, in my last post I put out, they were talking about Problems, if you may recall, where certain actions were carried out by the off-planet contingent, certain military operations, strikes were executed and whatnot, but we weren't seeing them manifest on this plane.
And it gets into things like timelines, it gets into dimensional shifts, it gets into Fluxes in energy fields and whatnot, and different perceptions of time.
So they were brought in to consult, for example, with the two contingents that I deal with, and the upshot was a very successful joint operation that I described earlier in the program, where, for example, the gunboats disappeared.
That was contingents one and two.
Of the off-planet forces, they finally got it sorted out.
So that they were able to conduct effective operations, but Contingent 2 was having major problems, where it was reporting to me that X, Y, and Z have been done, and I would check with my contacts and was like, no, the subs are still there, or no, this other thing hasn't happened yet, and we were both going nuts.
And by both, I mean the terrestrial side and the off-planet side.
Everybody was trying to do everything right, the results weren't occurring, and it's like, you said you're doing it, we're not seeing it.
They're going, we don't understand why it isn't happening.
You can bet we're going to get to the bottom of it and that is why the scientific race was brought in to consult in order to sort out this super hairy, how in the heck do you fight from several dimensions up and make it, you know, do what you want it to do when it expresses in third plane reality or normal earth reality.
So have you been told about anything to do with the timelines then?
Most of the timeline discussions I have haven't been with them but with someone who has a family connection to group one and this person has the ability to operate interdimensionally and has been way up above the dimensional level on which Contingents 1 and 2 operate.
And has described things that frankly made my head explode.
Because you've got all kinds of crossed up timelines.
You've got timelines that reproduce each other.
You've got dark forces intervening on timelines.
You've got events being taken back in time.
And what about the military manipulating timelines?
I've heard a little bit about that over and above what, for example, I've read on your site by Mr.
Burish, for example.
It has been privately confirmed to me that, you know, the looking glass technology that was described on your site is real.
And some basic information has been supplied on that, but nothing's been gone into depth regarding that.
Have they told you the outcome of the Obama presidency?
They have not.
Somebody is asking about chemtrails.
Chemtrails do relate to HAARP, so in a sense you did address that, at least in a left-handed sort of way.
Do you want to address the chemtrails more directly?
Chemtrails operate on a multitude of levels, and this will probably come as a shock to your Audience, but I have been given to understand that they originate,
it's not just that they're coming out of exhaust nozzles on aircraft flying back and forth, but that the problem is a higher dimensional problem, and the ultimate source of them is up at the levels where the contingents operate, And is being dealt with.
There's a facility that has been identified.
There was some confusion as to which facility was being talked about and where, but that's been sorted out and the situation should get markedly better.
Now, the sum total of what I've seen about the cam trails is artificial replacement of the ozone layer.
Making the ionosphere reflective for purposes of secure communications, for conducting earth tomography, for conducting strikes using HAARP. The levels of chemicals in there, like barium compounds and whatnot, is such that it's highly toxic.
It's 100 times over the EPA levels.
There's definitely a biological warfare component to the chemtrails.
People who've encountered something that looked like spider silk have gone to the hospital and desperately ill.
It particularly targets Those with little or compromised respiratory function, the young and the old, or anybody with a respiratory illness.
In the case of the spider silk, they found human blood, Sarah, and 20 known pathogens.
So it's out now in biological warfare.
Okay, I understand.
I mean, but what I want from you, I do appreciate that, and that's accurate in my view, but what I kind of wanted more from you was, in other words, the purpose behind the chemtrails above and beyond the fact that they are biowarfare.
In other words, what is the purpose of the biowarfare?
Now, if you're going to tell me population elimination, That's obvious, but I am actually looking to find out if you know something more than that, something beyond that.
Oh, I think I know where you're going with this.
You're talking about Morgulon's disease.
Well, that's only just one more thing, but what is the purpose?
I've talked to somebody who's met somebody who had that, and it was described to me as feeling like pins were being pushed up through your skin from underneath as these metal fibers come out.
I've been told by somebody with the higher dimensional connections that The net effect of the chemtrails is intended to kind of borgify us, for want of a better description, to turn us into biological robots.
And I don't know exactly how that works, but it has been confirmed to me by Contingent 2 that nanite technology is involved.
Okay.
Are you aware, let's say, what about the idea of turning the atmosphere into using, well, this gets into the nuclear accidents, Fukushima.
Basically, the atmosphere of Earth is being changed purposefully by the New World Order.
To become more adaptable for the reptilians and the greys.
And that means more methane, more nuclear radiation, etc., etc.
Are you aware of that aspect of it?
I've seen that argument, yes.
But you haven't heard that from the groups?
We haven't talked about it specifically, no.
No, but...
That overall pattern has been noted for some time and has been reported in a number of places to include the Matrix books put out by Valdemar Valerian of Leading Edge Research.
Which are quite accurate.
I believe Michael Topper had some things to say about it as well.
And he seems to be very well plugged in and I'll give you an idea of how well plugged in he is.
He said in, I believe, I can't remember quite the name of the book that he put out, but he indicated that not from here technology was used in getting us to the moon and the sensitivity of that technology is still so high that even my sources won't talk about it.
Okay.
Okay, so that's how plugged in Michael Topper is, assuming he's still around.
I don't know if he is or isn't.
I saw him many, many years ago.
But I have read things that indicated that the environment was being deliberately altered to make it favorable to the groups you just named.
Okay.
Well, it makes logical sense, especially...
Well, okay.
So at this moment, I am actually going to see if there's anything else in the chats.
So if you have questions you haven't seen answered, please repeat them.
Do you know anything about the nuke that was shot at the moon a while back?
Do you have your groups, were they...
I know that past...
It sounds like your contact really started in around November, so you really weren't in contact prior to that, right?
I wouldn't...
I mean, I had that one experience quite some time ago.
This was, I guess, a couple of years ago, the one where I sat in on the channeling.
Right, but did your...
But in terms of real contact, I'd say late last year.
Okay, so I don't...
Yeah, but I think that that might encompass the time when they shot the...
I am not aware of any nuclear missile being launched at the moon.
I am aware that an effort was made, and I wrote about it in Atlantis Rising, about nuking Jupiter with the idea of creating a second sun from it.
Well, that is actually from Barisca.
Now, where did you get that information?
I got some...
Information on it as part of the material that I got from my editor and publisher, Doug Kenyon, as a possible article.
And then I went and looked at a bunch of things, including some stuff that Bill Cooper had said on the subject.
I looked at the constitution of the Atmosphere of Jupiter.
I looked at what, for example, some of the secret societies on Earth were talking about would happen, what they expected to see, and I started putting the pieces together on my own.
This was before I had the kind of contacts I have now.
Okay.
Let's see.
I think someone's asking, there's some metal boxes showing up on the coast.
I don't know if you've heard about that.
I have.
Have your off-worlders or even your on-ground people, ground crew, whatever contacts told you anything in this regard?
Yes.
Initially, there was some speculation that they were tied to Stargates to get people off The planet out of areas that were going to be hit by devastating tsunamis like the one, for example, that hit Indonesia.
The latest thinking seems to be that, and this is with ET input, that they are, from some as yet unknown off-planet group, That is conducting some sort of specialized research of the ocean with a view toward possibly taking over, you know, coming to live here on the planet.
So they're dropping their suitcases down in advance?
Just kidding.
They're sensor packages, as I understand it.
Okay.
Have you been told that there's any radiation escaping from those humming boxes?
Have you been told that?
No, I have not.
I understand the government's been picking them up and hauling them off with Blackhawks, and I have read some reports which indicate that it doesn't do them much good because they put them in the storage room or whatever, and poof, they're gone.
Poof, they're gone is something I'm very familiar with because that is what has happened at Area 51 and Wright-Patterson and places like that.
It's a very well-established capability that the off-planet contingents have.
I guess they just reach down through the dimensions and, you know, normal obstacles just aren't there.
And they just...
Take it in some manner.
But I only recently became aware of those boxes, like a week ago.
Okay, let's see.
Do you know anything about artificial intelligence?
Do they talk about that?
A little bit.
My understanding is that...
E.T. genetic material is incorporated in some of our systems.
We are definitely using E.T. derived thought controlled systems in some of our black project craft.
I have talked today with Adair and he described a Direct neural interface kind of thing that he saw on a...
It was attached to a nuclear fusion containment drive that came out of some unknown craft.
He described encountering it at Area 51, later testified at the closed-door He met a guy who could accurately describe the markings on the fusion containment engine.
Okay, when did you talk to David Adair?
I'd say circa 1990 at the Granada Forum.
He came in and talked and then I got to talk to him privately afterwards.
Okay, but not recently.
Not recently, no.
Okay.
Let me see.
What have they told you about the Dracos?
The Dracos are on the hit list.
I understand that, but have they told you anything?
The Dracos and the Greys are the principal enemies of the contingents that I deal with.
Uh huh.
That their mission is to kill the NWO and rid the Earth of the aforementioned three.
Okay.
Do they tell you that there are any positive reptilian races?
I have been told that, yes.
That was a surprise to me because the only ones I knew of were negative.
But I was just told yesterday, in fact, that...
There's at least one.
I don't know how many there are, but there's at least one reptilian race that is positive in its general orientation.
Okay.
And what have they told you about what are called the albus and or known as the crypto-humans, crypto-terrestrials?
Have you heard any of those terms?
I have not.
Okay, what about the so-called royalty that seems to be running the greys?
Nothing from the ETs, EDs.
My understanding is they're subservient to the reptilians.
They're the masters.
The greys are biobots, essentially, but that's not from the ETs themselves.
That's from All the research I've done.
Right.
Are you aware there's many different races of greys?
Some are biobots, as you call them, some are not.
Well, I've also looked at some of the Serpo stuff and...
Well, there's some good information there.
There's also distortions in the information.
The force that was sent was much larger, for example.
Many tons of equipment rather than the small amounts described and things like that.
But it was confirmed to me that what was described on the Project Serpo site was Basically accurate in that there was such a project and, you know, we did send the team and it was armed and things like that.
Okay, what have they told you about the genetic makeup of the Illuminati?
They haven't told me anything, but I've read that it is Considerably different, and that is why there is such an unremitting emphasis on bloodlines and so much intermarriage among the black nobility and things like that.
And I've seen the list of the various families that feature in this whole thing, and that's why it's such a big deal when a royal marries a commoner.
Well, it's considered a dilution.
I've read what you have over on your site on Spalli, for example.
Okay, but I'm actually more interested, just because we have been going way too long here, and so I'm kind of going to have to wrap this up, but I'm more interested in whether you have been told anything specific, because you are saying that the ETs you're in touch with want to get rid of the New World Order.
Mm-hmm.
It's these families that we're talking about who are the specific purveyors of the New World Order.
And so knowing the genetic makeup of who they are and also wanting to get rid of the greys, reptilians, etc., you see how there might be a through-line connection.
Okay, well...
And what are they going to do with these Illuminati?
Have they told you?
No, they've not.
Have they been making deals with them, or vice versa?
Not that I'm aware of.
Okay.
Because you did say that they gave some warnings to the Israelis, so they are giving warnings.
Well, you know, the basic rule, as I understand it, is evolve or die.
Okay?
That is the choice that's given to every being coming off the planet.
The groups that I work with do not want to kill humans.
Especially given some of the numbers I've seen lately on what the actual fraction of humans is.
And that number is about 40%, which was, frankly, hair-raising.
They don't want to kill humans.
They will if they have to.
But they don't want to.
So they prefer to avert human loss By issuing warnings and getting people to modify their behavior when and where possible.
So if a warning will stop the loss of, say, a boomer, then they will issue a warning.
Sometimes they'll issue several.
But if you don't listen, then the hammer comes down.
And in the case of the Israelis, because of the difference in population size and whatnot, the loss of that That crew translates to our losing nearly a thousand people because of the difference in the population size, the ratio.
It has a huge impact on a nation.
Sure.
Okay, what have they told you about the Vatican and their role in the New World Order?
I have been told they're going to have to deal with the Vatican.
I have long been aware of What the Vatican does and is up to, and actually I was born and raised Catholic too, but I'm well aware that the Vatican's under the control of the Illuminati.
There's even been a postage stamp put out that shows that with the all-seeing eye.
So the Vatican is very definitely part of the problem.
You know, there's that book on the Holy Trinity that deals with the relationship between the Vatican, the CIA, and the KGB. And I have seen on a documentary hosted by Patrick McNee of...
On Angels and Demons, where they got some correspondence from Gorbachev out of Gorbachev's office after the Soviet Union fell, where the typed periods at the end of the sentences were each miniature all-seeing eyes.
They just looked like periods.
And it was Illuminati-type correspondence.
Okay.
What about CERN? Have they talked about CERN? They have not.
Interesting.
Okay.
At this point, I think that we should wrap this up.
I've been throwing questions at you right and left for quite some time.
I appreciate that you're very patient and willing to talk for a long time.
I'll talk to you all night.
But I think that if you'd like to do that, I think what we need to do is schedule another one of these.
And now that people will have the background, perhaps we'll get even more people to come by and listen, although I'm sure that we've had substantial numbers listening in here, not only of just so-called regular humans, but a lot of the...
The intel variety, let's say.
Oh, I have no doubt.
I am very, very widely read in the spook community.
I understand.
Okay, so I guess that's about it.
So thank you so much.
You're quite welcome.
You've been very generous, and you've been very patient, and I appreciate that you took all the time with each answer.
It's clear that you're very focused and that's valuable during an interview of this sort.
So I really do appreciate that.
People will understand that you and I have only spoken once, that normally when I do a Camelot interview, if I can, I spend more time with the person in advance before the interview and also you know it's a much longer process because of technology allowing me to do interviews now long distance as it were and instantaneously this sort of format this live stream and if you were able to get a camera between now and the next time I interview you
that would be really awesome because I know people would love to You know, sort of watch your face when you're answering questions, etc., because this is all valuable information.
We communicate non-verbally.
Yeah, and, you know, 80% of the information is visual, so they're not getting to see how I react and what my face does and the micro-tells and all that stuff, and I understand that.
Yes, absolutely.
And maybe next time, you know, we could talk about the book, too.
That would be wonderful.
Yes, and the book has been pictured here in the background.
It's quite fascinating.
If you want to briefly just say what the book covers, you're welcome to do so, and then give your website your bona fides, so to speak.
Okay.
The book is called UFOs, Anti-Gravity, The Manas, and Mystics.
It's based on two articles I wrote in 2005 and 2006 for Atlantis Rising.
One concerned the discovery that the Indians were Data mining, their ancient sacred texts for modern technology, they actually, using an ancient recipe, created radar-absorbent material, or what we would call stealth material, as one small example.
I would liken what they were doing to something of a Manhattan project.
That was the first article.
The second article indicated they were doing much the same thing with fleeing Tibetan mystics and were Techniques that had been closely guarded for, in some cases, millennia.
The ability to operate in all kinds of weather.
They have competitions where they sit in their loincloths and put a wet towel over their neck and raise their chi or their prana.
The winner is the first one to dry his towel off.
By doing that, that has direct implications for winter operations.
They have the ability to go into a focused state and march at rates that even fast-marching infantry can only begin to envy.
There are descriptions in there of how acoustic levitation of heavy objects is accomplished, that kind of thing.
And then when I was putting the e-book together, I came across some information which sort of Tied it all together for me, which indicated that if they combined those things with a couple of other things, that India would gain a whole new capability.
And India has actually changed its strategy against Pakistan.
India has been very slow to mobilize in the past.
If you use these technologies and these ancient techniques, what you can do is you can actually operate modern military forces without a lot of the heavy equipment and things like that.
You can become light and fast and what they call agile, mobile and hostile in some of the most forbidding terrain in the world, the perennially fought over Kashmir region.
So, there's that, and there's a bombshell revelation about Indian nuclear capability in there, but I wouldn't want to spoil the fun.
Okay.
The website, the actual address is a little different, but if you type www.johnkettler.com, it'll take you to my webpage.
And I think you'll find lots and lots and lots of fascinating material there.
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It is available on your website.
Is that correct, John?
It is, yes.
Anybody who buys from my website, it's also up on Kindle and Smashwords, too, if people have platforms that are more amenable to that.
But anybody who buys the book from my site will also get the audiobook and EPUB version when we get those straightened out.
So it's sort of a premium package deal there.
Okay, now someone in the chat is asking over and over again, do you have something to say about a disclosure timeline?
These are people that are very interested in the government telling you the truth about anything and why they think they would ever do that, I don't know.
But what do you have to say about a disclosure timeline, if anything?
I haven't heard one.
I do not believe...
I mean, if there's disclosure, the government will have to be dragged kicking and screaming by some particularly painful private part of its anatomy.
But what's happening is the ETZDs are going to make their own disclosure.
They're going to start making things happen that the government simply will not be able to explain away.
The Lawndark thing is a good case in point.
They're talking about doing all kinds of provocative and amazing things, but you've got to stop the wars in the meantime.
But there are things planned that No amount of marsh gas or lens flares or anything else will be able to hide.
The government simply won't be able to explain it away and we live in an era where everybody's got instantaneous communication capability and most people have full motion video capability.
Twitter goes out instantly too.
That's what people can look forward to.
The hammer is going to come down on NWO installations here and everywhere else, but there are going to be things staged specifically to show the public that there are forces at work that the government can't even begin to deal with.
Okay.
All right, John Kettler, we'll definitely do this again since you are so willing and able.
And we will reconvene in the near future and get some updates from you.
And I assume that people will stay tuned to your blog.
And I will link whenever I see an article, if I can at all.
Just to bring people's attention to what may happen with this situation that we are in, in regard to, well, this kind of Cuban Missile Crisis, as it were, having to do with Venezuela.
Right.
Well, thank you very much, Carrie.
It's been a pleasure.
And like I say, if you had the time, I'd talk for the next three hours.
Okay, well I'm sure people would like to kill me for not allowing that, but I would ask you because what happens is this goes over a live stream and then I download it and re-upload it to YouTube.
It's a process and the longer it is, of course, the more difficult it is to do.
Oh, I know.
This is substantial in size already.
We've been going over three hours and that is more than enough for people to sit one sitting through.
So, as I said, I'm happy to do this again with you next week.
If you want to come back, we can schedule a day and a time, and let's do it.
I would love to do that.
I'd be happy to do it, and I fully expect by next week I'll have all kinds of astounding things to report.
Okay, sounds good.
All right, thank you so much.
All right.
Good night.
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