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01/12/2011 Jelaila Starr.

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	Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, with the Blower Radio.
	And good evening to everyone on this Wednesday night in January.
	Things are ramping up, as most people say.
	Who follow Camelot will be aware.
	And we've got all sorts of things going on.
	Tonight our guest is Jalala Starr.
	She is in touch with what she considers to be the Nibiru Council.
	Okay, forget the way I'm saying that.
	That's not right.
	At any rate, in my view, I believe it's a form of beings that are really the Anunnaki, or at least purported to be.
	So it will be very interesting to talk to her about all that.
	And I have interviewed her just recently, not so long ago, on my radio show, but we didn't really get a chance to go into depth.
	So this will give us a chance over these next two hours to really get our questions answered.
	And I'm going to be opening up the phone lines so that everyone can...
	Call in and ask their questions as we go this time simply because audience participation, I think, would be very helpful.
	To sort of get to the bottom of all the questions on what's going on.
	I do want to say that if people will go to my blog, they will see some very interesting statements there in regard to investigations that Duncan O'Finian has done sort of a preliminary assessment of the recent Launer shooting in Arizona that appears to be a mind control incident.
	Programmed assassin hit on Gabriel and also on Judge Rall, who apparently has died from the hit.
	There's more information coming out just now by way of True Ott, who has done some investigation about The links to the Mexican mafia and the drug cults.
	And so there are...
	I'm not sure that those two things even rule each other out, to be honest.
	I think that they're probably all part of the same...
	Bag of worms, if you will, because you can't separate the drug money from secret government and black projects.
	And so it's very useful for them to use sort of a satanic cult as a mind-programming device and perhaps a first layer of...
	Being the first layer of the mind control that people will discover.
	You know, he had the shrine in his house and so on and so forth.
	But I have to say that that will only be the first layer.
	And that is probably more to draw fire away from the real culprits, which would be, in my view, the secret government and some kind of Manchurian Candidate, where they have a lot of sleepers put in place, probably around the world, but definitely around the United States.
	And this is just one such incident.
	What it's all pointing to and where it's going, we do not know.
	But I urge you not to close the book on the situation until you've heard all the different theories that are out there.
	And I do know that Duncan got a call from a certain group.
	As a result of his very excellent assessment.
	So we're going to go to commercial.
	We'll be right back with Jalala Starr.
	This is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot.
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	Okay.
	This is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and I am talking to Jalala Starr tonight.
	And Jalala, are you there?
	I'm here.
	Okay, good.
	Nice to talk to you.
	I really blew the word Nibiruun.
	I'm not sure how you say that.
	Nibiruun.
	Nibiruin.
	Okay, Nibiruin.
	Got it.
	Council.
	At any rate, that's the group that you believe you're in contact with.
	Is that correct?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	So, what I'm going to let you do is introduce yourself, because I'd rather you do so, and then let's go from there.
	What I've done is also open up the phone lines in case there are people that want to ask you questions, in light of the fact that you and I have been on the radio before together, and I'm thinking that some people may have questions right off the bat.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So, yeah, if that's okay with you and, you know, if you have any issue with that or if you'd like us to do something differently, let me know and I'll be glad to do that.
	No, that's fine.
	Okay.
	I don't really know if we'll have people with questions, but I just want to give them that opportunity.
	That way we have them sort of participating from the get-go.
	Yeah, from our last conversation, I got quite a few emails, so I figured, wow.
	There's a lot of unanswered stuff.
	I'm like, well, you know what?
	We only talk for two hours.
	We could talk for ages.
	Still not cover everything.
	But anyway, introducing myself.
	Well, let's see.
	How would I introduce myself?
	I am, I guess you could say a contactee in a way.
	I was contacted back in 1990.
	Let's see, when was it?
	1993.
	After about...
	A period of time, you could call it preparation, where I went from a business owner, an entrepreneur, single mom, no interest in anything spiritual, and my life was going great, making money.
	My daughter was doing well.
	She was three or four at the time.
	And all of a sudden, my life just kind of took a turn for the worse.
	And it's like one...
	crisis after another until at the end of nine months I was on my knees for the first time asking praying praying first time in years for help and about two or three days later I had a dream and in the dream there was this being that came to me and said we have work to do together and I was you know emotionally brought to my knees enough to say okay you know I'm going to go check this out.
	At first I thought maybe it was a possession.
	You know, I kind of grew up in a fundamentalist church.
	But these beings had a way of making certain that...
	It's like they kind of already anticipated certain things.
	So the lady I had just hired in my business a few months before ends up walking into the office the next morning and I said, Marla, you'll never believe what happened last night.
	And I told her what happened.
	And she pulls a name out of her purse.
	She says, I was at a networking event last night and I got the name of this psychic.
	You may want to give her a call.
	And I'm thinking, well, what if I got to lose?
	You know, I'll give her a call.
	Of course, she would have an appointment available the next day.
	So I went in and, long story short, she says, this is a spiritual master.
	He's come to help you.
	And as I was walking out the door thinking, okay, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone here.
	And she says to me kind of offhandedly, she says, if you listen to what he has to say, you will change your life for the better, or something to that nature.
	And I thought, well, okay, fine.
	And here I am, you know, all these years later, I did, found out three years later who he really was.
	They didn't really tell me who they were for three years.
	I went through a lot of emotional clearing and Self, you know, inner reflection, and that was all, like, kind of getting me ready for what you could call the mission.
	And the mission was to assist in helping humanity through what they kept talking about was the changes.
	And I went through a series of assignments over many years.
	I learned remote viewing.
	I mean, I learned about the past.
	The past is repeated as the future.
	And we want to alter the future.
	We want to help humanity alter the future because ultimately we'd like for them to graduate and enter the galactic community and we would be relieved of our duties as a parent race.
	So they said prove all things and I was a researcher from the time I was 15 so I already had a lot of background.
	I knew how to research and I was able to verify a lot of what they gave me and I'm still here today.
	Okay, and what if you were going to describe...
	Are you there?
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Hi.
	Okay, can you hear me?
	Yeah, I hope this is not going to happen like it did last time.
	Okay, well, that was my first question.
	Okay, um...
	Are you hearing me right now?
	I can hear you fine, Carrie.
	Okay, well, that's just good.
	Let me just tell the engineer, please have my phone number on cue in case you need that, because sometimes that connection is better.
	I'm typing that into this chat here so that you know what it is in case we get disconnected.
	In a bad way.
	At any rate, so I assume you were not disconnected, is that correct?
	That's correct.
	Okay, so my question was, would you classify the Nibiruans as Anunnaki, a la Sitchin?
	Yeah, that's who they are.
	They are, and of course, I guess our take is a little bit different.
	We know there's a lot of bias.
	There's a lot of information that's been written.
	Some is true, some is fabricated.
	But yeah, Anunnaki is a Sumerian term, meaning people who came down and shit rocket ships.
	Okay.
	And when you think of their physicality, how would you describe it?
	Well, that's a really good question.
	There are many different races.
	There are some that are human, very tall, but Blonde hair, blue-eyed.
	Some have brown hair.
	They love to wear beards.
	I'm sorry, they love to wear what?
	Beards.
	Oh.
	They have hair on their face, yeah.
	And they come from many different origins.
	That's one of the things, is that the Nibiruans aren't one species.
	They are sort of like a melting pot.
	And you have all kinds.
	There are those who are part reptilian, those who are full-blooded reptilian, those that are, you know, they look like bird people.
	There are liquidians.
	They are like a United Nations of the galaxy because their planet, their world is like a focal point for a Federation, if you will, of like-minded civilizations and worlds that are trying to get along.
	Okay, but if...
	I guess what I'm curious is that your connection to this council, is this through a particular race or through several different races in either your contact?
	Well, that's...
	Once again, it gets kind of complex.
	The group that first contacted me were what they call the ancient ancestors of the current day Nibiruans.
	And they are a, how do you say, multi-special.
	They're like many different species.
	There's some human.
	There's some dragon.
	There are some bird people.
	They're from many, many different races, you know.
	Like they had to explain to me, they said, you know, we understand that you're used to seeing only one form.
	That's not the way it is.
	There are many, many different forms out here.
	You've just been limited.
	And like I said, it took them many years to kind of bring me along because they had worked through all of my belief systems that were indoctrinated here on Earth with.
	It kind of opened my mind on a galactic level.
	But they said there are...
	What we would call ninth-dimensional beings, and they had been in the game, so to speak, this whole universal game of polarity integration since the beginning.
	They were time travelers.
	They said they were time healers, and their purpose was to help me understand what the bigger picture was so that I could relay that, among other things.
	Okay.
	Well, I appreciate that.
	Are you there?
	Carrie?
	Hello?
	I lost you there.
	Okay, I'm back again.
	Incredible.
	Every time I have a good question, I'm gone.
	Okay, the question I have is, we didn't get to go into the backstory.
	I'm interested specifically in the race that look like what are pictured on the Sumerian tablets, which are They're tall, around eight, nine feet tall or more.
	They are talked about in the Sumerian tablets, according to Sitchin, as having two brothers, Enki and Enlil, and they look human.
	They do wear beards.
	Yeah, that's the Nibiruans.
	That's the 5B Nibiruans.
	That's the current ruling family on Nibiru itself.
	Okay.
	And in your view, although some people say out there Nibiru has been actually demolished, you believe that planet is still intact?
	They're still around.
	What was demolished was one of the Ons.
	One of the what?
	Ons.
	One of the battle stars.
	Okay.
	See, Nibiru is a brown dwarf.
	It is a mini solar system.
	It is a sun that never ignited.
	And just like our sun...
	It has planets that orbit it.
	It's extremely...
	It's got an iron core.
	It's very...
	It's like a huge, big magnet.
	Okay?
	And it...
	So it has a very strong magnetic field.
	Therefore, it has a lot of orbiting moons and asteroids around it.
	Okay, that would coincide with what we have gotten from Andy Lloyd, who I think is correct.
	In other words, there is a brown dwarf.
	It actually has entered our solar system at this time.
	Would you agree with that?
	Yeah, it's inbound from the south.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Well, no, I was saying go ahead.
	I could go on, but, you know, you have the questions there.
	You ask the questions.
	Okay, fine.
	No, I was just wondering if you could elaborate then on if your relationship with the various races includes individuals from this group.
	Yes, it does.
	It's a multidimensional council, so there's members from many different dimensions.
	In this greater neighboring council.
	So I've dealt with Anu.
	I have dealt with, at different times, Enki.
	I've even communicated with Marduk.
	Not always the most fun, but I've communicated with him as well for various things.
	So, yeah, I've communicated with him as well.
	Okay.
	Now, what makes you think that these communications are legitimate?
	There's usually a lot of validation for them.
	They found a way to kind of prove things to me, because I was very skeptical, and I've kind of always kind of kept a part of myself as skeptical.
	I think that's pretty healthy.
	So I'm like, okay, you know, prove it.
	And they would.
	Amazing things that would happen in my life.
	I'm like, okay, I get it.
	I get it.
	Okay, but can you give an example?
	I mean, when you say prove it, like if I was to say, you know, to contacts that I have, prove it, there would have to be some specific kind of, you know, interaction.
	In other words...
	I know that, for example, let me use Laura Knight-Jedzik, who has a group that she's in touch with, the Cassiopeians.
	And when she's got a contact that is contacting her, she has to verify whether or not that person or that being is from the Cassiopeians.
	So she'll ask them.
	She believes that they need to answer honestly.
	And sometimes she's been deceived and she admits after the fact that that's the case.
	Although most of the time that's not the case.
	She believes that it's accurate.
	And some of the things she did was ask questions, you know, about the future and then sort of investigate to see if those things were, you know, were as they said they were.
	But if you really look at that closely, all that does is really reveal that the entity or entities you're dealing with has some, you know, Sort of access to the future.
	And I think that's very healthy.
	Sorry, we're going to have a commercial here and we'll be right back.
	Thank you so much, Jalala.
	Thank you.
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	Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we are talking to Jalala Starr.
	Jalala, are you still there?
	I'm still here.
	Wonderful.
	Okay, so where were we?
	We were talking about your specific contacts, and you were saying you asked for proof, and you got it.
	And I guess the question is, what kind of proof?
	In other words, how did that happen?
	Can you be a little more specific?
	Well, as far as whether they were for real, whether they had goodness, you know, just any number of questions over the years, they would...
	First of all, they taught me, you know, name, rank, and serial number.
	They taught me protocols in communicating with beings outside of our realm.
	And they said, you know, don't communicate with someone who doesn't tell you who they are.
	They're not forthcoming.
	They also said use discernment.
	Which they really helped me with, you know, strengthening my bullshit detector, so to speak.
	But other than that, they would send me a message that if I wanted confirmation or proof, for example, they would make certain that somebody called me or emailed me with the exact words that I was supposed to...
	that were the exact words I needed to hear as far as the confirmation I was looking for.
	Plus, if they said...
	You know, something would happen like this.
	For example, there's one of the very first confirmations I got.
	I was communicating with them and there was a group of people in my living room and they said, okay, you're going to go to this conference.
	You're going to go up to this individual.
	You're going to say these words.
	He's going to give you a spot.
	You're going to speak at this time on Saturday morning.
	And when you are done, there will be people standing five and six deep around you.
	And so I'm saying this to this group, and I'm thinking, oh my goodness, what have I gotten myself into?
	Well, I ended up going to this conference.
	I talked to the individual.
	He gave me a slot at the same time.
	I did talk on that morning.
	And then a month later, a guy sends me a newspaper in which he had taken a picture right after my speaking engagement, and there were people standing five and six deep around me.
	I'm like, okay.
	You convinced me.
	And there's been numerous experiences like that over the years.
	Okay.
	Now, okay, so I understand that they've convinced you that they are, let's say, a little more psychic than the average individual.
	Right?
	Psychic?
	Yeah, in other words, they can see the future.
	From the perspective of, they said, and this is the ninth dimensional group, you know, they said, we're time travelers.
	We're time healers.
	Our job is to keep the timelines moving.
	They don't give predictions, per se.
	In fact, they kind of poo-pooed that from the very beginning because I thought, oh, they're going to give me predictions, and they kind of slapped my hand because they said, listen, they said, We can project along the timelines.
	We can project out, but we can only tell you what is the possibility and what is the probability.
	Probability is 90% of a greater chance of something occurring based on where it appears that the energy is going.
	Knowing that, at any time, that could change.
	Okay.
	Are you familiar with the, I think it's called the Henoch prophecies from Billy Meyer?
	No.
	Well, it might be interesting for you to take a look at that.
	Those are supposedly prophecies that are similar in nature to what you're talking about.
	In other words, they are not predictions.
	They are prophecies, and that means that they...
	They tell about tendencies.
	If things were continuing in certain direction as they are now, then this will play out.
	If you change it, then this won't play out.
	It's not a hard, fast prediction, per se.
	Yeah, that's not the way they work.
	Okay, and this is from, according to Billy Meyer, the Pleiadian context that he has.
	Okay, and the Pleiadians are like saying earthlings.
	Because there are many different races of the Pleiadians, and the Nibiruans could be in some ways considered Pleiadian because their planet was a Pleiadian planet.
	Okay, okay, fair enough.
	And I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.
	But nonetheless, you know, it might be of interest.
	The reason I was bringing it up for you was if you took a look at those prophecies, and it's not that long, you can find it if you just go under Hennock prophecies on the...
	I forget what the website's called, something like Fly.
	I forget what it is.
	But at any rate, they outline the future in such a way.
	And I'm wondering if you could compare that to what you've heard and then be able to, in essence, sort of see if there was a similarity or if they were very different.
	And that would be interesting.
	At least from my point of view, it would be interesting.
	It would be very interesting to find out.
	Because it talks about very interesting things like potential robotic society in which we're dealing with robots in the future, for example.
	Yeah, now that's interesting that you bring that up because that is the past.
	Like what they explained to me, they said when they taught me to remote view, we didn't call it remote viewing.
	I didn't know what it was.
	You know, I had no background in anything of this Spiritual or esoteric.
	I never watched the Sci-Fi Channel.
	I thought it was totally boring.
	And I was totally immersed in the 3D world.
	You know, I was a businesswoman.
	I didn't care.
	So when they taught me what I called back then timeline travel, they taught me about what they called the four galactic wounds.
	These are worlds in which humans were involved and what happened to those worlds, why they were destroyed.
	And two of them were Earths.
	They call them the first Earth, the second Earth, and ours is the third Earth.
	And one of those Earths involved an artificial intelligence society, and one of the big issues that brought about the demise of that planet was the issue over giving equality to this artificial intelligence society that had become not only equal, but in many ways superior to their own creators.
	So that's interesting.
	So the Pleiadians would know about this.
	Okay, but I guess I still don't understand why you said it was the past.
	Why?
	Because it's happened before.
	They said there were four worlds in our galactic past that were destroyed, and this is what brought them to their end.
	And they said their timelines are woven into Earth's timeline so that those souls could continue their incarnational, their evolutionary cycles.
	And the events of those four worlds are what is playing out on your planet now and are playing out in the future.
	And they showed me how those future events tie into the past.
	And so that's what I went around this past year, doing a workshop explaining, this is our future.
	This is this timeline, and here it's happening here.
	This is this timeline, and here it's happening there.
	And then it made sense of what's coming between now and now.
	Shall we say the end of 2012 when we reached that apex in our process of moving across the galactic equator and through that field of energy that's emanating from the core, they said if you can wake people up to what is going on, they don't have to fear this.
	They don't have to freak out, but they do have to do certain things to be safe.
	Okay.
	Well, let's drill down a little bit here then.
	What I hear you saying, and maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're saying, is that that's a possible timeline, that it occurred in the past, that we actually have to get through it again here and now by making different decisions so that our past doesn't go down that same exact road, but that we are actually verging upon that at this time.
	Exactly.
	They said, you know, you are going to keep repeating the past until you alter it.
	Okay.
	So what is their way of altering the past?
	Well, the issue with the artificial intelligence, for example, that's one of the timelines we have to alter, is involved with a fake first contact.
	And this gets pretty involved here.
	Well, no, this is Project Bluebeam.
	At least it's not surprising to me or to Camelot listeners because we talk about this all the time.
	Okay, cool.
	So fake first contact is totally what we call Project Bluebeam.
	And that is something slated by the powers that be, and I'd like to discuss with you exactly who you think those people are also, or who your contacts think they are.
	But this is the fake alien invasion scenario.
	Right, and in the original timeline, which was a Pleiadian world, it was a human world in the Pleiadian system, and...
	In that timeline, there was a war, a civil war, between the ruling family, the part of the ruling family that said, we should make them equal because at some point they're going to outlive us, outman us, outwork us, outthink us, and the other side that says, no, we should never make them equal because then they'll turn around and destroy us.
	And there was a war that ensued, and I'm just kind of giving you the bare facts here.
	Right.
	They're bare pieces.
	I explained the full story.
	In that book I wrote.
	But anyway, the war ensued.
	The younger sister of the ruler made a contract with a roving mercenary group from the Andromedan system that were artificial intelligence.
	They had won their own war against their creator race, which was the Draconians of the Orion system, and no one had ever beat the Drax.
	But they won because the Drax had made them self-replicating.
	And so this group were like mercenary soldiers.
	There was different forms of these AIs.
	There was those who looked like angels.
	They were blonde-haired, blue-eyed.
	There were those that looked like ants.
	There were those that looked like spiders.
	Some were more organic.
	Some were more machine than others.
	But they were all ruled by this one group of self-replicating Blonde-haired, blue-eyed-looking androids, if you will, and they made the contract.
	Long story short, the sister backed out of the contract because she ran out of resources.
	They couldn't bring this to a successful conclusion.
	She betrayed them.
	They ended up using scalar wave technology, and they destroyed that world.
	When you say they, you're talking about the AI group?
	The AI group.
	And I was told that group would be intersecting with our military around the year 2006.
	Now, you know, sometimes when you get pieces, you get a piece here one year, you get a piece here another year, and you don't know where these pieces fit, so you just got to let them sit there, you know?
	And then I went to a conference out in...
	Colorado Springs, right at the foot of NORAD, just about.
	And that was the first time I'd really interacted with Alex Collier.
	I had met him in Estes Park several years before.
	Well, I was going to meet him, but he didn't want to connect with me because I represented the Nibiruans.
	But anyway, he was having a crisis of faith that weekend.
	And long story short, he said in his talk, he said, I don't know if these Andromedans are for real or not, but he says, they did give me one last piece, I'm just going to throw it out there.
	And he talked about in a couple of years there will be an artificial intelligence that will connect with the military.
	And I'm like going, oh my gosh, there's my confirmation.
	You know, I'd gotten this piece years before.
	Right.
	Well, that is of special interest to me because I've actually gotten that piece recently.
	From one of our contacts.
	Yeah, and he said, so here's a way it'll go down.
	If they will contact the military, they'll work at a NORAD, their goal will be that this fake first contact scenario will be used to try to marshal, you know, the masses, so to speak, and to giving up whatever last bits of freedom that they have to fight this At first, it'll be that this group will work with the military.
	They will appear to be like these angelic beings, and they'll bring healing technologies and all this stuff to the planet, and there'll be people who go, oh, you know, they'll look almost like the next messiah, and they'll fall down and worship them.
	And if that works out, then they will get what they want.
	We will basically be under house arrest from that point on.
	I can't help but wonder if the V series is kind of like a testing ground to see how humanity will...
	I don't know.
	I think there's a lot of agendas going on with that deal.
	Yeah, I have to say about the V situation, Sean David Morton, you know who he is?
	Oh yeah, I know Sean.
	Yeah, well, he's a friend of mine, and he says, he is a very funny guy, and he was introducing me at a conference one time, and he said, well, Carrie believes we're going to have to come back for the tagline here.
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	Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we are talking to Jalala Starr about the Nibiru Council and the Anunnaki and, at the moment, AI. And just before the break, Jalala, are you still with me?
	I'm still with you.
	Okay, great.
	I was just finishing with a punchline because Sean David Morton was introducing me at a conference one time and he said, This is Carrie from Project Camelot, and she believes that V is a documentary.
	And I thought that that was pretty much right on.
	So anyway, that's my answer to whether V might be preparing the masses.
	So yes, indeed, I would agree with that.
	Well, it's kind of an interesting time.
	In fact, what the Niveroons used to tell me, they would say, when you see something that we talk to you about, end up on primetime TV, know that the event is imminent.
	Interesting, yeah.
	Well, I have to say that the birds falling from the sky recently was in Flash Forward just a little while ago in an episode of the TV show.
	So, there you go.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Now, I would like to know, in terms of the AI, so what's the upshot?
	In other words, if they're working with our military, they would seem almost unstoppable.
	They would, and here's the thing, as I understand it.
	They said in the past timeline, when the people in control They betrayed the AI. The AI were like wild teenagers, and they had no sense of conscience or what they would do to other people.
	So they just turned around and destroyed the planet.
	That was their calling card, so to speak.
	And they said, when this occurs again, and your military betrays this group again, what they wanted us to do was to work on, and this may seem a little strange, but...
	You know, we were sent all to many different places where we had to basically open up the timeline, work on the event, and have people show up that would represent different roles.
	In fact, we went to Colorado Springs and we did a workshop, and there was a girl that showed up there who appeared like someone with Tourette's.
	Well, she was someone with Tourette's, but that was...
	That was very much like what these AIs are like.
	They just blurt out whatever they think.
	They don't even think about it.
	And help seed in this consciousness.
	And this is called altering a timeline.
	You seed in a chance for them to experience what it is like to have feelings or to have a conscience about what they do to other people.
	So I did write about that as well.
	And they said, this is how you alter in...
	A timeline.
	You go into a place where it's geographically tied, because every timeline is tied into a geographical place on this planet.
	You open up the event, you reenact the emotional parts of it, and that creates like a new overlay on how that will turn out.
	And then when the time of the event occurs, you can access that template, so to speak, from the grid, because everything's held on the grid, and that gives you the best Possible opportunity to alter it.
	It's like the 100th monkey syndrome.
	You hook in unconsciously and all of a sudden everybody's washing their baked potato the same way.
	Okay, now, you know, I think that's interesting.
	I would say, actually, right now, at the moment, just talking about this in this way, along with some other things that are going on simultaneously around the globe, are already potentially altering that timeline, if that's the means by which they want to alter it.
	In other words, if whether...
	Making AI sentient or having feelings is possible is the biggest question, you see.
	And that's the question for the AI as well.
	So they won't just do a gut reaction because what AIs do is when they're threatened, they eliminate.
	And so what we want to do is help them develop the ability to think before they act.
	But what's more likely, I mean, again, also, the chances that, it's interesting, I just, I mean, there's a synchronicity going on here because I was just writing something to someone today about Hal, and the question is whether Hal can feel or be alive.
	You know, Hal from 2010, 2001 Space Odyssey.
	So, Hal is the computer.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I never saw that.
	In case you're not familiar.
	I'm not.
	But at any rate, so whether or not Hal can feel, because in essence that's really what we're talking about, only it's a form of, well it's an artificial intelligence, but the fact of the matter is it may not be able to feel, but it may be able to think it feels.
	And that might be sufficient to get it to act in a semi-moral fashion.
	Yes.
	Well, that's very interesting.
	So you've got that timeline going on.
	You've also got the robotic, this is what we're told, the potentially robotic timeline in which, at the moment, we're told that the U.S. has something like 500,000 robots in an underground base that are human-looking, that can't be distinguished from humans.
	And that the Chinese have something similar, that ultimately those robots may participate in a war, number one with China, and number two with an off-planet civilization.
	Wow.
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	It sounds like something I was shown years ago.
	That's scary.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it sounds like it might be something you might have been shown.
	So the reason I'm bringing it up is to say, what is it you were shown about that?
	Now we're going to have to come back after the break for the answer.
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	Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we are talking to Jalala Starr.
	We are going into the second hour here, and I would like to encourage callers to call in, and hopefully we can get those caller lines set up.
	I believe they're not operating yet, just so my engineer knows.
	Sean hears me on that.
	But at any rate, Jalala, where were we right before the break?
	Oh, I know.
	I was asking you about basically the Terminator scenario, which is, you know, and I described it as, in essence, 500,000 race of robots that the U.S. has at their disposal that are human-looking, and that China is said to have the same thing.
	That there is also...
	They may be used for an off-planet battle that is not a fake alien invasion, but actually a real one that, I guess, comes after the fake one.
	But I guess the question I have is, how did that play out in what you were shown?
	Well, okay, what it showed in the past is that it didn't play out well, but in the future the way we could alter it was, A, Don't buy into the Savior thing.
	Don't buy into the way they're going to be touted as, like, these are the saviors or the next messiah or whatever.
	Use some discernment.
	Don't buy into it.
	Don't jump on that bandwagon.
	Don't get him, you know, just say no.
	Because what I was told was they said the first interaction with ATs is the first ones to land are not the ones you want to hang with.
	They said this will not be a real...
	First contact, and it will not be with somebody who is for you, because what they want in return from us is they want a new home, they want a new timeline, and I know this sounds pretty crude, but they want a food source.
	So we can provide all, you know, Earth can provide all that.
	The military is not aware of who they're really dealing with.
	Okay, and what do those ETs supposedly look like?
	Do you know?
	The ones, the Andromeda and Android Alliance, the AA, like I said, the ruling ones, the leaders, look like blonde-haired, blue-eyed humans.
	Okay, so those are the ones that are supposedly, you think, coming as part of the fake alien invasion.
	Yes, but they have other species under their control who do not look like them.
	They are like the different groups of soldiers.
	You've got the machines, there's a form, and these to me are the most frightening.
	There are spider beings that, they're like balls, metal balls, when they come, you know, when they come flying in, they're like being pelted by these huge metal balls.
	But when they hit the ground, they open up and they're like 30 foot tall spiders.
	And they move like lightning.
	They're so fast.
	There's an ant-like group.
	There's a reptilian-like group.
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	Ben Thede Music by Ben Thede This is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we are talking to Jaleigh Lestar, and we are talking about possible futures here.
	So the future that we're talking about right now is the one that involves what you just described as sort of metallic spiders from the sky.
	And I have to say it sounds a lot like a Spielberg, I don't know, War of the Worlds.
	Which I thought was very outlandish, so I'm surprised to hear you kind of give it that kind of a description.
	But nonetheless, so you're saying that that's a possible future, and what's the remedy for that?
	Well, once again, those won't be unleashed if we don't, you know, don't buy in to the whole...
	In other words, we give them the power...
	To take over if we just fall down and say, yeah, come here and heal us, save us, whatever.
	And with our planet going through all the changes that it's going through now, we're like being primed.
	It's sort of like what happened to me, you know, when I went through that nine months which brought me to my niece where I'd even listen to what this group had to say because I would have blown them off otherwise.
	We're kind of going through this scenario here where we could become very Well-primed, you know, to basically give up whatever power we have to this group that will appear to be, you know, messianic.
	And if we don't do that, then the rest can't play out.
	Okay, so, but that's the so-called fake alien or ET invasion.
	And that involves, you were describing, you know, what is, in essence, tall, blonde, blue-eyed androids, if I got you right.
	And then these spiders and a few other beings.
	Yeah, and there's one group that looks like these are part of their soldiers, I guess.
	There's one of their platoons.
	They are about 40.
	Four and a half feet tall, totally dressed in black.
	They have these helmets on that make them look like ants walking upright.
	And they're all marching in unison, and I think they're clones.
	Because in the vision that they gave me, it was in a dream, I saw them marching up the street, and they were shooting these weapons that were like pulse beams, I guess you could call them, into houses.
	Killing the people.
	And they had no emotion.
	They just walked and they shot.
	That's all they did.
	And there was just tons of them.
	I mean, just as far as you could see, they were this group.
	Okay, well, it sounds like we definitely don't want to have that timeline play out.
	No, so we have to...
	This is where we have to really hone our discernment.
	And we're not going to know that this is a fake deal unless the word gets out that this is a possible scenario.
	That is one of the reasons that I was contacted many years ago.
	They said, we've got to get this out into the consciousness.
	It's going to reach, not everyone, but it's going to reach hopefully enough to where those who are aware can take the correct action.
	Because you don't need everybody taking the correct action for it to spread through the consciousness like the 100th monkey syndrome.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Right.
	That's why they were showing me all these scenarios that could, these are the timelines, this is what has to play out, but how they play out is up to you guys.
	Okay.
	Now, what I'd like to know is, from your point of view or from what they've told you, who are the people that are running the planet at this time?
	Okay.
	There is a bloodline.
	It's a pure hybrid bloodline.
	I know it sounds kind of crazy.
	It's reptilian and human from the most ancient strains in the galaxy, Orion and Lyra.
	And this was a crafted bloodline that part of it came out of Nibiru, because Nibiru does also have those same bloodlines.
	And they kind of, in a way, hijacked the ancient Sumerian or Nibiru and NamUs, which was part of their gig.
	But they created 13 bloodlines out of their original ones, And those 13 families are who rule the planet now.
	They are controlled by a group in the fourth dimension who are draconian clones.
	The draconian clones were cloned out of the purest line from Orion.
	And what is behind them is another group.
	And that's what David Icke doesn't know.
	He thinks that the Drax are the ones in charge.
	No, they're basically the front men for another group out of Sirius.
	That is, their goal is, they're trying to, and now this is going to get complicated, they're trying to take over the planet because there is another group That are a pure human group that they do not want to share the planet with.
	The group that is trying to take over the planet is a hybrid group, which were persecuted on one of the worlds that I was talking about in Sirius B, and it led to a major war in which scalar weapons were used.
	It affected the Sirius B sun, and it basically destroyed some worlds, and the people, you know, their souls ended up in hyperspace.
	Anyway, it's kind of...
	Kind of involved there.
	Okay.
	But they are the ones who are basically pulling the strings to this clone group, which is then controlling the bloodlines of the 13 families.
	13 families bloodlines.
	Okay.
	And this group that you're referring to is, I assume, off-planet?
	Mm-hmm.
	They're in hyperspace.
	They can go anywhere.
	Okay.
	And they are...
	What kind of beings are they?
	They were from Sirius.
	They were hybrids.
	They were reptilian-human hybrids.
	Their original homes were Orion and Lyra.
	Okay, and you're saying this is the group behind, because reptilian-human hybrids are behind the Dracos?
	Is that what you're saying?
	The clone Dracos, which are the ones who are possessing the bodies of the bloodline members.
	Okay, but the bloodline members are also supposedly human and reptilian.
	They are.
	They have to be of the right bloodlines to be possessed in that way.
	Okay.
	So, but they're...
	Let me see if I got this right.
	But you're saying that the ones behind the Draco clones are of human-reptilian...
	They are human-reptilian hybrids themselves.
	Yes.
	In fact, if you think of the movie The Wizard of Oz, Dorothy pulls back the curtain, and what does she find?
	Right, the little old man.
	And what did he look like?
	A human.
	And was he blonde-haired and blue-eyed?
	Well, he was bald, in my memory, anyway.
	He was?
	Okay.
	I kept thinking he had blue eyes.
	Anyway...
	He probably did.
	I mean, he had that kind of white sort of aimlessness.
	Fair-skinned, blue-eyed.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	That was...
	That was a sign.
	That was a sign.
	Yes.
	I know that.
	Of who was really in control.
	It wasn't on this planet.
	It was...
	Because in the movie, Dorothy was in a dream, right?
	Yes.
	Well, yes, she hit her head, but we assume that what happened happened.
	I mean, she thinks it happened.
	Right.
	She was in a dream, and so in the dream, she found out who was behind, and those beings didn't live in her real world.
	They lived in her dream world, which was synonymous with off-world.
	Okay.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah, yeah, of course.
	But the Wicked Witch of the West, I think it was, or the East Witch, has to symbolize something as well.
	It probably does, but I never really looked at that.
	What they wanted me to know was that that was a clue to who was behind the draconians.
	Who was behind the ones, and this was seeded to me years ago in the future, I mean in the past, I don't know how to explain this, but there were things that were given to me years and years ago that eventually found out what they meant.
	You know, they were like planted as seeds of confirmation is what they called them.
	In any case, when you were asking about the bloodlines, who's in control?
	The bloodlines are really just the on-earth servants of this group that is really in control.
	Okay, and now what is the agenda of this group?
	The agenda of this group, see, they're fighting against a group from their original time, which is a pure line from Lyra.
	In the Sirius B timeline, and I talk about it in my book, in the Sirius B timeline, the purest were the pure humans from Lyra.
	They had come to Sirius B... At the end of their world, when their world was destroyed in a civil war with the Orion Empire.
	And in the Cirrus B colonies, there were pure humans, there were human hybrids.
	It was like a hodgepodge of different species there.
	The purists began to persecute the hybrids to a much greater extent than even what we saw in the Holocaust and on our timeline.
	And so the hybrids managed to eventually turn the tide against the ones who were persecuting them.
	But in that process, they destroyed their world once again using scalar wave technology.
	Scalar wave was involved at the end or the destruction of each of these worlds.
	And that's one of the reasons the Nibiruans made contact.
	They said, when you develop scalar weapons, you're very near the end.
	You're either going to make a big jump in consciousness or you're going to destroy your world.
	Okay, but just to get back to these beings, so we've got...
	Human-reptilian hybrids, we've got what you're calling the pure humans from Lyra, which they were at odds with each other, those groups, right?
	Yes.
	And the one where we're oppressing the other, but actually the ones that are oppressing us now are the human-reptilian hybrids.
	And the reason they're doing that is because when they all ended up After they destroyed their worlds and they ended up in hyperspace, they had to find a new home.
	But to get a new home, from a spiritual perspective, you have to earn it.
	So Earth was like the new home for humans.
	Anybody with human DNA could claim a right to come here, and that's why this planet, as I understand it, was colonized by many different groups, not just the Nibiruans.
	But the hybrids do not want to share space with these purists again.
	They think that will happen again.
	So the only way...
	To avoid that is to enslave all the planet, and then they have a way to control what could happen to them.
	Okay, but in other words...
	If they try to, you know, because I don't know if you're aware of, Bill has done, Bill Ryan, my partner in Camelot, has done a recent interview with a supposed assassin who says he works for the 33 families that run the world.
	And they're passing themselves off as being pure human.
	But that's actually not the case because I'm intuitive and psychic, and I can tell that that's not the case.
	So they're trying to pass themselves off as pure human in what they're sort of selling the populace at the moment, sort of like a PR campaign.
	Mm-hmm.
	In my view.
	So, because if they were to say they were reptilian-human hybrids, that wouldn't go over real well.
	Right.
	But they are pure in the fact that they are from the purest strain, all the way back to Lyra, which was supposedly the origins of the human species.
	And the purest reptilian, which is the highest level dragons, which were the white dragons.
	Okay.
	And what did the white dragons look like?
	Big white dragons.
	Okay.
	And this kind of a hybrid is a humanoid, though?
	The reptilian-human hybrids from Sirius B, the ones who created the clones, and it's a long story of how they ended up creating the hybrid line on Earth.
	Some of them look human.
	Some of them look a little bit more like reptilian.
	Okay, and this would be what people know of as the blue bloods.
	You mean the blue bloods here on Earth?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Just because, you know, a lot of people have a lot of confusion on this, and so I'm interested in your take on what, you know, what is the various lines and what's really going on here, because there's also a lot of As you know, a lot of ETs parade as, for example, Pleiadian because that's kind of the going, you know, that's the trendy good side.
	Or Arcturian.
	Okay.
	That's another one, yeah.
	Okay.
	Believe me, Carrie, I know how confusing and complex this can be.
	It's taken me 15 years to put all these pieces together.
	Absolutely.
	Well, and we ourselves have been going down this rabbit hole for quite a number of years as well.
	So it's interesting to see also where your information cross-correlates with ours.
	And so if you look at the situation on planet Earth right now, what are you aware of and do you know, for example, the moving of the magnetic pole that's happening right now?
	And have you been told what that's all about?
	Part of that is ring node hits from Nibiru inbound.
	Are you familiar with what I mean by ring nodes?
	No, not by that term, but I would imagine that there is an impact from the planet impacting the planets in the solar system.
	In our solar system, our Sun I mean, we all rotate around our sun, okay?
	Our sun spins, and it creates like a hula hoop of energy.
	Well, that's called a ring node, and every planet orbits on one of those hula hoops.
	Well, Nibiru, as a sun, also has its hula hoops, except that they're perpendicular to ours.
	So as it's coming up from deep space, coming up from the south toward our planet, Some of its ring nodes, which are actually further out than our own sun's ring nodes, are intersecting and slicing through the ring nodes of our planet.
	So it'll slice through because it's coming up between Mars and Jupiter.
	It'll slice through the ring node where the asteroid belt orbits If our planet is close to one of those ring nodes as we orbit, we get swiped.
	We get hit.
	And the ring nodes are...
	I don't know how to explain this.
	I don't have the right word.
	But anyway, they can reach down into the core of our planet because I guess they're magnetic.
	And they can actually lift the tectonic plates.
	They can pull mountains up.
	They can cause whole continents to sink.
	Okay.
	We'll be right back.
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	White bird in a golden cage on a winter's day in the rain.
	White bird in a golden cage alone.
	The leaves blow, cross the long black road.
	Two years ago.
	the darkened sky in its rage But the white bird just sits in her cage It's
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	Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio.
	We should be on the air with Jalala Starr.
	We're having some sound problems.
	My computer just crashed and went off the net completely.
	I don't know why.
	I've got another computer going here.
	Hopefully you can hear me.
	Jalala, are you with us?
	Jalala?
	I'm here.
	Okay, great.
	Wonderful.
	And you can hear me okay?
	I hear you just fine.
	Just fine.
	Wonderful.
	Okay, so to continue the subject, for some reason my other computer just crashed.
	So at any rate, I guess what we were talking about was what is the situation on the planet at this time?
	With the birds falling from the sky?
	Guys, and the changing, and the magnetic, and you were getting into Nibiru, and how it's coming up from the south, and I do understand it's crossing our, what you called them, where like, there were lines like hula hoops, I forget the exact words.
	Our ring nodes, it slices through the ring node of our orbital path.
	And when we're too close to one of those ring nodes, we get hit by it, like we did in 2004.
	There was evidence that that was a ring node hit, which caused the tsunami because it affected the tectonic plates there.
	And it also pushes a shower of meteors and asteroids toward the planet.
	And I believe that what's causing the birds and the fish to die is, well, during the solstice, the planet shook for a good 24 hours from earthquakes.
	And, you know, we have a situation with the moon being a little off, and it's like Earth was being pulled between the magnetic pull of Nibiru and the Earth and the moon, and it was basically quivering or shaking.
	But when that happens for 24 hours, And you've got these tectonic plates sliding around, you know, on this molten core.
	That's going to cause gases to be released into the air wherever the fissures are in the tectonic plates.
	And I think, from what I was getting, that that was part of it.
	That was part of what was causing that to happen in specific locations.
	What I am still researching is, are there fissures where those birds died?
	Are there fissures where the fish died?
	Okay, so you think that they're dying because...
	I mean, I'm not quite getting why they're dying.
	Well, they're dying from the methane gases that will be released from the inner portions of the earth because of all the shaking and releasing...
	Of gases and energy.
	It's like when those plates move, sometimes they can create what's almost like a sonic boom.
	And that can affect, you know, the birds and the fish because they hear it.
	In fact, they were saying that with some of the birds, when they died, they died as though they were startled with their mouths open and their eyes really wide and their eyes bulged out.
	Well, it's like something whacked them, startled them.
	Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
	Okay, well, we just talked to...
	I was part of a panel yesterday in which Brooks Agnew, who has, you know, is a physicist background, and he was talking about the fact that it did seem that the animals were dying because of the magnetic pole moving.
	He actually said that he thought the birds might have...
	Become asphyxiated in flight because they're very dependent on the magnetic sort of energies of the Earth and the electromagnetic.
	Also, I have a contact who's telling me there's electromagnetic radiation being released in certain parts of the planet.
	That has been stored underground.
	What I also heard, though, is that possibly that there is an effort by the government to target that radiation that's coming out and then to direct it as an energy weapon.
	And that some of this might be tests.
	One thing I was informed of many, many years ago, and they keep reiterating this, they said it's never just one thing.
	It can be a combination of reasons.
	It could be all those.
	Right.
	It could be every one of them.
	Okay.
	Now, we are getting some questions coming in here, and let me see if I can get to the board.
	This is sort of a board where I have to be able to log in and so on.
	Not completely positive I can find the login on this other computer that I'm working on.
	In the meanwhile, other people are asking...
	I did have an email question.
	I don't know if I can find that either.
	I'm afraid someone was asking...
	I'm afraid I can't remember it offhand.
	Oh, they were asking if NT was called EIA. In what you've been told?
	Yes.
	That was one of his names.
	Okay.
	And you met with Michael Tellinger, didn't you, when he came through?
	No.
	Oh, you didn't?
	I thought you did.
	I was thinking I was going to, but then I never saw him.
	So you guys never hooked up?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're familiar about his work in South Africa, though, I assume?
	Yeah, the Adams Calendar.
	Yes.
	Well, he calls it Enki's calendar now, but yes.
	Well, I went there, and the energy there is very, very powerful.
	He's been told by a number of psychics that That is indeed the area where it's called the Deep Abzu, as you may be familiar.
	I wonder, did you have a point of view of that, or were you given information in regard to Michael's work?
	Well, I was given information about Enki, and that was his domain.
	That's where his laboratories were.
	Okay.
	And was there anything else?
	So you haven't actually been there physically though, right?
	No.
	Okay.
	And there are a lot of circular stone structures, in fact, thousands of them all over that area of South Africa, even going into Zimbabwe.
	You may have heard of that.
	There is a tremendous amount of what in essence is...
	Free energy that becomes available through sound frequency.
	Those stones ring like bells, is what he says, and there can be a whole vortex created in the stones.
	Have you been given any information in that regard?
	That's how they built pyramids.
	That's how they used sound to move the stones, to cut the stones.
	Yes, exactly.
	That's the information we have as well.
	But I was just wondering whether you knew about those stone circles and how those stones were moved, I assume, in the same way?
	Yes.
	When they communicated with me, they didn't talk to me so much about what they left behind on Earth.
	Okay.
	They talked to me about their perspective on the stories That were passed down through the ages.
	And they basically said, let us give you our take on it.
	And that way you'll have a different, you know, you'll have our perspective as well as what will be written about us.
	Okay.
	I'm like, okay, that's cool.
	Yeah.
	So, but is it your...
	I remember when last time we spoke and you talked about some kind of a resolution between, I guess, the humans and the reptilians.
	Was that your position?
	That is what needs to occur.
	Okay, and when you say the humans, you're talking about the...
	I'm not sure how to distinguish because all the humans here are of different bloodlines, as you know, and a lot of them have also been genetically engineered by various ET races as well.
	Yes.
	So it's hard to sort of put them all into one basket.
	Is there anything you can address in terms of that?
	Well, as far as the humans on Earth, what they were basically saying is, anybody who's down here right now, we're going to just say human.
	It doesn't matter what their genetics are.
	They're walking around in a human form.
	And they're down here for a reason.
	And they're at this time to maybe correct their past as well.
	And that is, they're in a human form.
	They're facing another soul who's showing up in a reptilian form.
	And this time, they have to learn to stand in each other's shoes and work out their differences instead of fighting to the point of almost annihilation.
	Okay.
	And that does have a certain ring of truth in terms of My understanding of what is called the great experiment going on down here, which is that all the various races that are embodied in human bodies but are actually,
	you know, some of us come from various different places and we may be more, let's say, You know, Andromedan, Pleiadian, whatever we are, whatever combination of races we are, but we may have interacted with the reptilians in the past, and or there are some humans here that also have a large amount of reptilian DNA. As well.
	Yes.
	And so the whole idea is to get this sort of melting pot of races to get along, not just with the reptilians.
	Isn't that right?
	Exactly.
	The reptilians are the big nemesis to the humans.
	In fact, that's like one of the most ancient conflicts in the galaxy.
	You could say the reptilians, one of the oldest races, and the humans, one of the youngest.
	And they're two very, very different They're like on opposite ends of the scale.
	Right, no doubt about it.
	But, okay, we'll be right back after this break, and hopefully I'll stay online.
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	The truth has just gotten hotter.
	You raise up your head, and you ask, is this where it is?
	And somebody points to you and says, it's his.
	And you say, what's mine?
	And somebody else says, well, what is?
	And you say, oh my God, am I here all along?
	Something is happening and you don't know what it is.
	Something is definitely happening.
	This is Carrie Cassidy, Project Hamlet, Wizard Laura Radio.
	And believe it or not, we have ten minutes left in the show.
	Jalala, are you with me?
	I'm with you.
	Okay, great.
	So I'm going to unmute this caller that we've got here from Area Code 602, and hopefully this will work.
	Caller, you're on the air with Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and Jalila Starr, and you are Area Code 602.
	Hi, Carrie.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	And, Jalila, thank you for taking my call, too.
	I had a question.
	I mean, I've been listening to you, and Kerry, I've followed you a long time, especially on Project Cam a lot, and I was out at the Awake and Aware conference, and I thought that was wonderful.
	My question is this.
	Through your process, and I kind of caught this halfway through the show, so I just want some clarification.
	Do you have any physical evidence or physical proof of what you're talking about?
	In regards to what?
	In regards to the reptilians, to the Pleiadians, to everything that's taking place, what's happening right now.
	That's a great question, but it's extremely general.
	Well, I'm not trying to generalize it.
	I'm saying, like, I would take, like, Billy Meyer.
	Extreme, you know, he had lots of evidence, photographic evidence was his main staple in all this.
	And that's what I was asking you.
	Excuse me, I think what the caller is asking is, do you have any hard evidence of your contacts that they are who they say they are?
	I think that's really the question.
	That's correct, Carrie.
	Thank you.
	The evidence that I have is...
	What I've written about over the last 10 years, I wrote a book sharing what they gave me 10 years ago, and a lot of what they've given me over the years has now played out.
	So that's my evidence.
	Okay.
	All right.
	But thank you for taking my call.
	Okay.
	Thank you, caller, for calling in.
	Okay.
	So...
	Let's see.
	At this time, we don't have any other callers, so Jalala, we just have a couple more minutes left.
	I was actually thinking I should purchase your book, and I was wondering.
	I see you have three books there, if I've got it right.
	It's not clear whether you have any available, first of all, as e-books.
	Do you?
	All three of my books are available as a download, yeah.
	Okay.
	Or online store.
	And which would you consider to be most important for people to read at this time if they were not going to buy all three?
	Well, it depends on what they're interested in.
	The first book that I wrote was at the beginning of my mission, and it has a brief overview of the galactic history as I understood it back then.
	But it goes into detail about altering the DNA, which is something that never ruins.
	They were the ones who changed our DNA. Now they gave us the ability to get it back to where it was.
	So that's the first book.
	The second book was written, Mission Remembered, was written ten years later after the mission was over when a lot more of the pieces had been fleshed out.
	And it is more detailed about the history and about the future.
	So if you're interested in the history of our species, our galactic history, and what's happening between now and 2012 and beyond, That's the second book, The Mission Remembered.
	If you're more interested in altering DNA and that kind of thing, dealing with walk-ins, dealing with starseeds, that kind of thing, that's the first book, We Are the Nibiruans.
	Okay, now I do have a last question for you.
	I don't know if we can cover it in the time allotted here, but one thing that I've been told is that there is a return, and we did cover this briefly last time I talked with you, but I still want to go over it again.
	My understanding is that the Anunnaki from Nibiru, the Enki-Enlil crowd, specifically the Enlil side of that That equation has been the ones that have been in charge on here, on planet Earth since, well, at least at this incarnation of this strain of humanity.
	And that would be from the Deep Absu to when they dumbed down our DNA. And your position on that is that they left the planet?
	They left around 2200 BC, after the war with Marduk.
	And Marduk took over Nibiru.
	Marduk was their son.
	Marduk is Enki's firstborn and the nephew of Enlil.
	Right.
	Okay.
	He took over.
	He took over Earth.
	He won the war.
	He took over Earth.
	He took over Nibiru and only abdicated his position in 1999.
	And there was a reason he did it.
	Okay, and he abdicated it to who?
	Back to his uncle and his grandfather.
	Okay, meaning Enki and Enlil?
	Enlil and Anu.
	Oh, right, okay.
	Okay, so they're the ones running the planet this time?
	They're the ones running Nibiru.
	Okay, what about this planet?
	There is a...
	They're not running Earth.
	At this point...
	They are still sending assistance as far as education, trying to make us aware of what's going on.
	And they're not coming back to take over Earth.
	They just want us to graduate.
	The ones who are running the planet are 13 bloodlines, but they're actually being told by those people beyond 3D. Okay.
	They're not in charge of Earth from their perspective.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	All right, thank you.
	And Mardu's running from those people, too.
	Okay, sorry, we're running out of time.
	We'll have to do this again sometime soon.
	This is Carrie Cassidy, Project Hamlet with Zablow Radio, and we've been talking to Jalala Starr, the Nibiruan Council, and that's her.com, it's her website.
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