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June 16, 2010 - Project Camelot
01:50:25
Universal Talk 2010 with guests Teri Ippoliti and Michael Tellinger
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Welcome to Universal Talk.
And today we have a special guest, Michael Tellinger and also Teresa Ippoletti.
And we've come together here today to do a channel for Michael in regards to his book, Slave Species.
And I'm not quite sure what's going to come out of all this, but...
We're going to film it.
And Michael, I believe you're in South Africa.
Is that where you're at currently?
That's right.
I'm right in the mountains of Ngomalanga, which is the very northern part of the Drakensberg.
And for all those people that saw the 2012 movie, I'm in the perfect place to be.
Okay, great.
Okay, so...
Those who have watched or have listened to Universal Talk, the radio show, and logged on to the website, Mike was no stranger and neither is Terry.
And I figured that it would be a really cool idea to get the two of these guys together and have Terry channel...
An entity, if you will, from the very beginning of time in human existence and then allow Michael the opportunity to ask the questions that may help him in his research and his work.
So with that being said, we're going to give Terry the opportunity now to just go within and with the notion that we're going to call upon the entity that actually had come through yesterday to give us some insight on who we were as a species we're going to give Terry the opportunity now to just go within and with the notion that we're going to call upon the entity
and I would say that you could talk for a little while while I get myself Right.
Okay.
So, meanwhile, while Terry's getting herself acclimated here, Michael, is there anything that you found that's new or that you could give us an update?
Oh, yeah.
A lot of new information.
Just confirming what we discussed the previous time we had a chat in many of my interviews, I've been talking about the fact that the stone circles and the stone structures that we're discovering here, I have put together my theory and hypothesis that they were used,
well not all of them, but many of them were used as energy generating devices using sound frequency and standing waves And turning that into a form of energy with which they did all the gold mining and all other kinds of mining.
And not only that, they used that energy for levitation, for crushing, for everything they needed to do for heating and so forth.
And that was the theory that I had based on purely putting the pieces of the puzzle together.
And then recently we did some measurements that were absolutely astounding to prove Pretty much that my theory has been true.
Not that I doubted it because I've had so many psychics and people come forward and tell me exactly the same thing or confirming what I believed or what I put together from the pieces of the puzzle.
And again, I didn't just come up with this.
You can call it a scientific exploration.
It's taken a long, long time to put the pieces of the puzzle together, to figure out what was going on here a long time ago.
And a long time ago, we believe, from about 300,000 years ago.
And so we did some measurements and to our absolute astonishment found that it is a very high energy, a certain energy that comes out of the ground inside these stone structures, the stone circles.
It's like it's been described by the guy that measured it as a column of energy that arises from the ground and moves up into the air.
And secondly, he measured the energy and the sound frequencies coming out of the walls At about 72 dB, which is very loud, like rock concert loud almost, and at 14.5 GHz frequency, which means it is screaming at us all the time, but we can't hear it.
So we've got live energy devices here that have been working for so long and are still currently working, and I believe it's a combination of tapping into the energy in the ground, in the soil of Mother Earth, That comes out everywhere, all over the surface, and using that sound frequency as a source of energy.
And we need to start doing a lot more work and a lot more research in this area.
Absolutely.
So, where do you see yourself in the next coming weeks?
Well, I've got Kerry Cassidy here next week from Project Canalot, and she's come to have a look at these ruins and Do some interviews and I've organized a talk for her and me in Johannesburg in two weeks time.
And then I'm coming to the United States in August.
I'm coming to do my little tour of the United States and hopefully do about 20 appearances all over the USA. And so I might as well just use this opportunity.
Hopefully I'm going to do one with you in your area, Joe.
Absolutely.
Yeah, if there's any way that I can help promote that, I mean, I'm definitely a willing participant with that.
And then if whoever is listening to this interview, if they want to get involved and maybe assist me in doing a talk, if you want me to come and talk in your town or your city, just email me.
All I need is a venue, and that's pretty much it.
Venue, and then we'll do the PR collectively, and hopefully we get a bunch of people in there that I can come and share some of our discoveries with.
Right.
How many people would you say, so this all works out, do you think that a hundred people would be an adequate venue, or an adequate amount of people, I should say, or more?
A hundred people would be wonderful.
Anything more than that will be incredible.
So far I've had some really positive responses and feedback from people who have offered their services and help to set up some talks and find venues for me.
So if all things continues like it has been, today was really the first day that I started promoting this via email and so far it's been going really well.
Very positive feedback.
So in the next two weeks, hopefully we'll finalize everything with the people in about 20 places around the USA.
And then I can actually start promoting it and actually put a time and a date to the venue and the town that I'll be talking at.
Perfect.
Okay, I think Terry might be ready now.
We are now in a position to allow
this... energy to flow easily...
We are listening to the communication And allowing the vessel to take a trip to your position, your location.
In the meantime, we bring this energy to allow the conversation to flow for what is the energy stream of what you are asking to understand in this vibration of energy.
Is my understanding of the way that they use the energy accurate?
Or is it more or less accurate?
In your research, For you to be in this research, you actually are carrying that energy, that energy to expose this information.
This information can be a drive.
There is an inner drive that is coming That is not of what you would expect in the ego mind, but it is a feeling that it must be exposed.
This is because you are actually allowing this new transition of time to create and to allow those who have been in the dark For such a long time, to come out of the dark, to come back into the light.
You are exposing the truth at a higher frequency of energy.
And much of your information comes as though you are the channel of that information through your research.
The studying, the drive that you have, even the ability to find the information comes from a higher awareness within yourself.
Do you know who is responsible for feeding me the information or channeling the information to me?
You are receiving this information From very early, early on, from the beginnings of the time frame of the species.
It is almost as if we could tap into this energy.
It would be easier to be in your energy stream.
To understand where you once created early in the species during the extraterrestrial visitations.
Would it be accurate to say that our species was then Created by extraterrestrials for a specific reason and a purpose on this planet?
We have...
We do remember that there has been and there still is what you would call extraterrestrial involvement from the very beginning.
And it is almost as if you would look at the Earth as an experiment of some type.
Or another way of looking at this energy is to see there are different time frames of evolution early on.
And in the beginning there has been what some may look at as...
We only speak from the remembrance of the energy.
The vessel has not read or does not know any of your work.
We can only articulate what the vessel feels in the energy that we feed into this.
We would say that there has been DNA DNA changes which are still occurring and are occurring more rapidly now.
It is a vibration of the energies that are, even then it was the changes of vibrations of minerals, vibrations of land formation,
Vibrations that came from different dimensional aspects of company that came from other, what you would Put the terms to as a planetary company, extraterrestrials.
Some they call as the Anunnaki's.
they call some as the Zulazem.
And are you, how did you find us to channel through your information through us?
How did you find us and how do you fit into these different groups of beings or entities?
Are you not part of the Anunnaki group of beings?
Are you from a different group of beings?
There is a timeframe of slavery, they would call it.
Many workers.
This is a visitation.
When the vessel asks for guidance, The group that works with the vessel may allow a visitation.
As an observer, we are coming in as a collectiveness of one, remembering as though, to put it as an eye, as one of the workers.
Much mining during this time that we were exposed to was to mine many of the...
to build for what we Perceived as giants, or we would see them as some not so friendly, and others friendly.
When you call the vessel, you refer to planet Earth.
The vessel is the occupation, the physicalness of the body.
We are communicating through the vessel.
They're communicating through Terry's body and they term it as the vessel.
Like Terry's body is the vessel.
Okay.
So...
We are allowing ourselves to bring this energy through as a remembrance, a signature of the remembrance of that energy.
And was it gold that was sold after in the beginning on this planet?
Gold is always preferred.
Gold has a As a structure?
Yes, you may ask.
In the beginning, it was my understanding that gold was used as a physical substance for the protection of a planet which the Anunnaki called Nebiru.
Is that accurate?
We are in the awareness of the Anunnaki, the Nephilim, of the early visitors.
Gold was not just used for their purpose, they used it for many different aspects of Worship they used it as a chemical combine for instruments that they would need for their
own development.
Was it much later that they used gold as an energy source?
Because I understand that they would have discovered the monoatomic principles of gold at a later stage and used it as an energy source.
Is that accurate?
Gold has been used as an energy source.
Even in the times forward, They still look at gold as an energy source.
We cannot put a time to what you are trying to define at this point unless we are in the energy source itself.
The energy source itself, we have a barrier right now.
We can only tell you what we can remember through the signature of the energy.
We realize that you are looking for particular answers and Usually, we are able to pick up answers for the energy stream of what you look for.
Given ample awareness of that energy, what happens inside the The frame of the sight and the feelings of this vessel can only bring up what is remembered as the entity comes to visit.
The entity was a slave.
The entity dug for gold.
The entity feels the essence of what it felt like to be a In that situation at that time, how it thought, or how it feared, or how it lived.
Was there the main reason for the demise and the destruction of the civilization here in Southern Africa?
And in the rest of the world at the same time, but mostly predominantly here based on my discoveries here and my theories.
Was the main reason for the destruction what we would call the Great Flood?
For the renewal.
There had to have been a rebirth.
just as there shall be again.
And am I right in assuming or, again, once again postulating, am I right in the conclusions once again postulating, am I right in the conclusions that I'm making here that the largest areas of gold mining in ancient human times,
in the first period of human history were here in southern Africa?
Yes.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Along with other minerals.
Along with other minerals.
I believe also that they started mining iron and all the other minerals, so that would be accurate?
Yes.
Yes.
There was much activity and aliveness during those times prior to the flood.
There was great civilizations, there was a language that we most began to forget after that time frame, after the Great Flood.
I also get a sense that although we call it slavery, It wasn't harsh slavery.
No, it was their way of life.
I didn't hear that, excuse me.
It was their way of life.
It was their way of life.
I sometimes describe it, I'm beginning to promote a new concept to the world which I call contributionism.
Maybe that energy has come through to you already and it is to create a new world social structure Of liberating the people from the enslavement of money.
And I believe it's the only way to go ahead.
I also believe that the first 270,000 years or so of human existence, people lived in what could be called, the first humans lived in what could be called the prototype of a contributionist society.
Where they had everything they needed, everything was provided, but their lives revolved around mining gold and other minerals.
And there were other species that did not agree upon this.
Although it seemed like it was a way of life to them and it was basically the energy design of that species at that time.
So to us it would be considered slavery at a later And even those who speak of it today, they look at that as slavery because there was no other...
for those who wanted to look at it differently and move away from it because there was just not Those species of the Anunnaki or the Nephlins or those who came that were along there,
those same species had different subspecies who did not agree upon the way that humanity was being treated or that they had no growth in their energy field because it became almost to some an obsession Of having it worked in this way until these
species began to evolve to a higher awareness.
Are you aware of what we refer to as planet Nibiru?
The planet Nibiru comes through as a star, as though these are those as though these are those who wish to come through as bringing the answer to all.
the The planet Nippuru are the choice makers.
Are you familiar with the well recognized in our current research and written history?
Are you familiar with the names Enki, Enlil, and Anu?
Because of the...
We will have to change the energy signature to answer this.
when they we at this time we cannot answer this Okay.
And at the moment everybody is concerned about 2012 and what is going to happen during 2012, the catastrophe.
Is there anything, any information and knowledge that you have that we can learn from or benefit from?
Is it something that you can share with us?
We will bring in the council.
2012 is a time of change, a time of...
We bring into those who are seeking the answers to the 2012 and it is a time of change.
It is a time of transformation for many.
The earth is already in this transformation and change and there is an energy that is becoming more of what we may call the ethereal energy of a separation of the earth.
And there are many of those who are beginning to awaken into the aspect of transformation and is rising up into this energy field of this new change.
2012 is depicted as the end of time, although the Time has already shifted and when those are in their fear-based awareness look at the end of the world.
It is not the end of the world as we see it.
It is the end of time.
It is a time of change.
A new evolution of man is basically what we see as the awareness of 2012.
2012 is already begun.
All the transformations have already begun.
Yourself as a historian, we see, has many of these answers through the time that you are bringing forth.
You are bringing forth answers.
For many of the lightworkers, if you want to call them that, those who are evolving, their DNA is changing, there is much energy that is shifting and you are just a part of that shift to help those to remember.
You are exposing the energy.
Because we will be living in that energy.
We will be understanding that energy just as many of those species early in the beginning We understood energy, actually more than what we understand it today, we are bringing back that remembrance.
And this is what you have been doing, is helping those to shift into that energy to remember.
In order to be able to remember, brings in what they might call this new age or this new earth.
Some people believe that there will be some kind of a frequency separation.
This is what we speak of.
Of the conscious and the unconscious, almost like different television channels.
They exist side by side, but they don't know.
I didn't show them.
I seem to resonate with that kind of feeling because the planet is too divided, it is too diverse.
There is too much conflict and too many diverse opinions and huge gaps between those that understand and those that don't understand, or those that are conscious and those are unconscious.
And the only way to reconcile that is, in my opinion, through a frequency separation.
This is...
There is a lot of turmoil that you speak of in reference to those that are awakening and remembering and the Earth itself.
There has to be a break somewhere and this is where the 2012 comes into where there will be a lot more clarity that comes forth.
It is all of the frequencies and the transmissions not from just the Earth but outside that information.
This is how even with those who are now beginning to break through the energy of their fear-based world, who allow themselves to open up, there is so much more involved in this transition than just one part of the story and because there is so much involved
there are many of you as yourself that are channels yourself who are who are driven to expose and so when this transition comes there will be a frequency break the frequency break will this is why there are so many We're
awakening the energy people so that they can actually come out and expose this difference.
And there are many that are not awakening at all.
And so when this happens, this is where the division will occur.
And it takes the exposure to make this happen.
And when you talk about the Nibiru, they have a specific plan in mind that will bring this forth.
Does this make sense to you?
That is interesting information because that concurs with previous information that are received in a different channeling with a It is difficult to bring out all of the information at once, not just one channel or one...
It comes out in bits and pieces of energy.
For we come to help the change.
To put all the little pieces together so that eventually when the shift is to take place, what will happen is that clarity will come to those.
And this Nibiru, even though there are many different stories and different perceptions of who the Nibiru may be the Nibiru have the power and the technology
and the awareness as though they are from the beginning and to create the separation to some
and because we know that this vessel practices unconditional love and is a healer there is a struggle at times
of saying what we wish for the vessel to say the destruction of man there is a A new birth, a new beginning that is beginning to be created.
And so there are many that are waking up to remember as those many have been here before and have done this before.
Do you have any knowledge about my previous times and being here before?
Do you know anything about that?
It would be much easier to be in the presence of your energy to remember you.
We do know that you have been from early times.
You're very old and you have come here at this time and you were here also At a time of when during the Great Flood.
It is for you to remember that time would bring you to this time.
It is like an energy signature of how you would come from even during the early times of During the times of what we others would call slavery, but during that early species time, when that ending came about, you were also there.
You are also there at the great flood as just as the vessel and many others who have are out there to give out information have been in those same energy signatures you choose to bring forth to help that separation to occur.
If I gave you a clue or a hint as to what I've been told do you Have you got the capacity to resonate with whether that is accurate or true or whether it is false?
It would be much more appropriate for the vessel to be in your presence, but you may try.
This is the first time that we have really gone this far to speak through transition and through this type of Mechanical, sometimes mechanical gets in the way.
Give us a hint.
Before I go and suggest to you who I've been told that I was in the past, can I ask you, who are you?
Do you have a name?
Do you have a name individually or do you have a name collectively that we can refer to in the future when we talk about this event or this experience?
We speak through a council of seven different what you would call extraterrestrial species.
It took us a while to get the vessel to this point of communication.
We at times bring in Other species for the vessel to get familiar with that time frame and awareness.
This was an example of bringing forth knowing that you were looking for the awareness of the early species.
It is unpredictable for this type of transition for we are just communicators, messengers to help bring information through.
It is more for the parties who are listening at the time to discern what is for them to Take in as that information.
Whether it resonates or it does not resonate, it is just messages of energy.
So we do not give out names.
Every once in a while there is one that pops up such as...
There is a mantis that comes through this vessel That helps the vessel see different types of species and to understand their way.
The Andromedans come through for the vessel as a healer.
And the Andromedans help the vessel in those aspects of healing.
We are the ones who are The vessel's teacher or the guidance system of the vessel.
These visitations can be unique or they can be practiced to help the vessel communicate to the public.
Are any of your group referred to, sometimes we hear references to the lightworkers or the atas And such names, any of your group, do they fall into those groups?
The lightworkers is what they call this vessel.
There are waves of energy that are awakening many of the Earth's species.
There are Usually in certain time frames, especially now, to help transition the change.
When the vessel's more of what you would call the awake state, as the vessel goes within guidance, the vessel uses much of its work in the healing of awakening others.
The influence on planet Earth, is there a special name for planet Earth among your group?
This is a question that has never been asked.
There are seven Some see the planet as a visitation.
Others see it as a vacation.
Some see it as the most beautiful star.
We may not be able to answer that just yet.
Okay, so there isn't an obvious name that everybody uses that is not of this Earth?
No.
Not all.
Okay.
And then the influence on planet Earth in the past, I've come across many different star systems that keep popping up as the major influence on our planet.
Could you confirm if this is in fact so?
For example, Sirius being the binary star to our Sun.
Can you confirm if that is in fact so?
We have brought Sirius into the vessels.
Sirius is who, that energy of Sirius has Sirius is the one who has awakened this vessel into this reality that there is more than the angelic realm.
Sirius has taken the vessel, there has been trips to Sirius.
In the vessel's awareness.
It is exciting to the vessel for it is a very different types of species that are all Syrian as though they have their own lifestyle of energy there.
We see this in the vessel as the vessel has visited and been there, the same as this vessel that has brought this U2 together here.
It is a remembrance of this energy of Sirius.
They're very communal.
On this, in this S, in the way that they carry their energy signature.
Okay, so then the answer would be that Sirius has had a major impact on the development of planet Earth.
Absolutely!
It is a, this is why many are remembering Sirius.
And Sirius is allowing them to remember because when transition occurs many life forms will transition back to the certain ways of life.
There has been technology that has been given to Earth from Sirius.
There has been Saving the planet-type information has come from Sirius.
And then other star systems that have come up in research is also the Pleiades and Orion.
What can you tell us about that?
The Orion system is, for there is a, in this group there is a Sirian.
A seer that communicates through this vessel.
This is through the Orion Belt.
Was Sirius at some stage in the past part of the Orion Belt constellation?
Yes.
And it is also...
There is...
Quite a few sectors in the Orion belt that had the Syrian occupation.
This is a very powerful energy source that When you speak of lightworkers, some of these are healers and others are warriors.
We lightly bring this to the attention when it is needed to know, only to help the remembrance of it.
So when it comes to that point when the Syrians wish to give us the information for what is yet to come, we bring this forth.
In the meantime, it is because of this vessel is not Ready for what those who come out and speak of energy wars and other aspects of danger the vessel will only allow the light to come through as we speak for
it would only interfere with the work that we have Have prepared for the vessel.
So, the Syrians...
Sorry, I interrupted you to carry on.
It is perfectly fine.
What is it that you wish to say?
I wanted to ask about the Pleiades as well, on top of the...
The Pleiades are not in this council.
In the Andromedan is in this council.
There is a...
the Pallades have not communicated through this vessel for the...
is not part of the seven.
Do you understand?
So, all that I understand, thank you very much.
The seven ETs that you mentioned The whole outside of our galaxy.
They are in a dimensional...
They are in a dimensional shift of the galaxy, yes.
They have...
When they come, many of the people are looking at these...
In a linear sense of an awareness.
When you look at the visitations of the extraterrestrial at a linear sense, it creates a sense of fear.
Although what happens is that these energies also come through a dimensional awareness as visitations.
So we look at this and we express to others that when the visitations come, it is a dimensional shift of energy that communicates through.
For when you begin to shift, even the planet begins to shift, it separates into a dimensional aspect as though one part of the planet It's actually going into a higher consciousness.
Just as yourself, you are raising into a higher consciousness.
We know that you are.
You would not be speaking to us at this point if you were not.
Then there is a higher consciousness Within those that are awakening.
And those who are awakening and exposing the truth are the ones who will shift with this new division of the planet.
Do you see what we try to get out?
So, basically, you are the hysterian that brings back information of remembrance as this will all be brought into this new shift.
This is why you are in higher consciousness.
There are some very interesting structures that we have found here and that I have hypothesized about what they were for.
One of these structures is a very peculiar combination of hexagonal type Stone structures that are clustered together just like a honeycomb, a beehive honeycomb, and I believe that was originally for the cloning purposes of the new species.
Can you confirm that or unconfirm that?
We cannot confirm that until we see or feel the energy of it.
I'm doing my best to send you the energy.
I'm visualizing it.
I'm doing my best to send it to you.
We do have the picture of it.
Just as we have sent the vessel over to your side, the vessel remembers being there in an earlier life.
Although it is just bits and pieces of energy transformation.
It would be you state that you will be coming to this side for traveling.
The vessel will meet with you and pick up the energies, for the vessel is an empath.
It can only read what it feels.
And it's strongest as an empath.
Then the information comes through as a lot easier than it does right now in this transition of division through mechanical devices.
And the place that we call Adam's calendar, does that bring more energy?
Is it stronger in your mind to tell us more about that?
No, we cannot.
This is not something that we recall.
The person that I've been told that I have been in a previous life is the name Dumuzi.
Does that resonate with you at all?
When the vessel comes into your presence, The vessel will be able to speak more of your life.
You have lived many lifetimes in the area that you are in now.
It is familiar to you, is it not?
Very familiar.
Yes.
This is home to you.
And it feels like home.
And you are remembering everything that you are experiencing.
For you are exposing what you remember.
This is why you are doing what you are doing at this particular time.
For you have chose to come here to bring this remembrance up through a higher consciousness and then expose the information to others.
That definitely concurs with previous messages and channels that I've had.
So I feel very happy to hear that.
Yes.
And there is a...
The vessel has also been there in a previous time, and so has the vessel.
Joseph has been there.
The vessel...
Um, has, uh, had the experience with a Zan, either in a place called Zanzibar, or the, um, The name of Zanzibar comes through,
and the vessel was a very large, large, tall, skinny woman that felt like ten feet tall, and very admired as a tribal awareness.
It was during a very poetic remembrance of the death Of the, what was it, the leader of the tribe, the chieftain of the tribe.
And it was a remembrance of that life in that area of where you are right now.
In many trying and hard times, But at the same time, a flourishing time of communal and tribal awareness.
I also reached a conclusion that there were about at least 50 million people over a very long period of time.
From the first, the origins of our species that lived here in Southern Africa, mining gold.
I work it out to be about 270,000 years, but it was a continuation of about 50 million people that stayed here and maybe even more.
Could you confirm that that was so large?
During that time before the shifts of the Earth, it is almost as if the shifts of the polar shift went backwards.
What has happened is that what used to be alive there may not be alive now.
It was a different type of Yes, there was many that occupied that part of the Earth.
The Earth was very different then.
And they used, as we mentioned before, they used sound frequency and sound vibrations as an energy source, is that correct?
Yes, as they are beginning to remember and do now as well.
This is happening now as well.
I see the Ankh because we found what everyone believes to be the Egyptian Ankh.
Yes.
We actually find the evidence here in South Africa that it was used here long before.
They used it in Egypt.
And it was used as an energy generating device, as a tuning fork kind of tool to do all kinds of things with gin and heal and many other amazing things.
Would that be correct?
It is correct.
It is a very favorite symbol of the vessel.
And it is for the vessel remembers many of those lifetimes with that energy of the Ankh.
It has brought into this lifetime many of the awarenesses and the energy of that time of healing that was used.
For the vessel has lived many lifetimes as the healer and the communicator.
And so the Unkh is very special when it is used for energy, yes.
Is there any advice that we can get from you and your special council of seven that obviously has advanced knowledge?
Is there any special advice you can give us how we should approach to harness the energy In the stone circles, the sound energy in the stone circles, which we have measured, there is.
But I do not know at this stage if we have the knowledge to use that sound frequency for a source of energy of all types.
Is there any advice that you can give us?
We as the Council I would say to use that energy at the appropriate time.
The appropriate time, all information will be revealed to you.
And others who are working with you.
It is keeping it out of the hands of those who want to use that energy for war-like information.
It is an energy that could be used to create the transition of humanity.
It is The energy that could create the new earth and create all the changes that are about to occur for humanity.
It is energy that you would be able to communicate with in the intent.
It is the energy that could create life.
It is the energy that could bring life through it.
Much for communication.
Yes, there is an exciting feeling inside.
There is like a rumble of that energy.
That is speaking through as though this is a very good energy that is very much to be used.
And all those who can help you will be coming in your direction when that perfect time frame is about to occur.
So you will be able to bring that forth.
Just through the intent of wanting to know the language of that energy.
It is all...
I was also told...
Sorry, carry on.
That is okay, the energy is broke.
What would you like to say?
I was also told that some of the devices that were created to generate energy Our big stone structures, obviously, we've mentioned this before, they're large stone structures with 22, 25, 30 meter diameters and even larger.
And I have been told by other information from other sources that it was these were the prototypes of the energy devices that are very, very powerful, extremely powerful, much more powerful than anyone on Earth has ever been able to even imagine.
I've understood that, but many others will not be able to understand that yet, because they don't sink along those lines.
But I was told that it was these devices that much later caused the destruction of Atlantis, because they were misused.
Would that be accurate?
Yes, the vessel came from Atlantis at one time, and there was much information.
They had too much information and did not know how to use it correctly.
This was their own demise.
It was like you may have said that they got too smart and too scientific in their...
Their ways of thinking.
And they had all this information.
Just as we are seeing it happen again.
They take all this information and use it for all the wrong reasons.
Such as power.
Power would be the word.
So would it be accurate to say then that they misused these energy devices that we still see here in South Africa and in Zimbabwe?
Absolutely.
The remains of those devices and they used them and they misused the same devices on Atlantis which then caused the destruction of that continent.
Yes.
And they are doing the same now.
It is...
It is...
So each time that This spin around and we have this opportunity to change.
It's just like going from one lifetime of energy to another lifetime of energy and you allow yourself to experience similar situations in order to evolve and to grow and to expand the consciousness.
It is the same with these envelopes of time.
You have the new earth and then another new earth and another new earth of new beginnings in order to be able to be given the same opportunities and to raise this consciousness to use it in more of a light than in the darkness.
And there are always those that are opposing that wishes to, out of power, greed, that wish to pull this and keep you in that energy of dark and light.
So the light and the dark are always opposing one another.
When it comes to the energy of it.
So it is placed in the form, in form.
So the same thing with these fragmentations of energy of time.
So here we are at the end of time like Atlantis.
And so Nibiru, that comes through, will be almost like a decision maker, is what we bring forth.
For it is that energy of how much we want to use this energy for life.
The energy that you are exposing, the energy that other people are exposing such as Stargates and how much do we want to use to expand life.
Would you say that What is your advice or feedback on the whole concept of money on our planet?
My belief is that that is the one thing that is the cause of all the device used for holding back the species from growing more quickly in their consciousness.
and reaching higher levels of energy and money is the tool of enslavement that is holding the people back.
So would you agree with my philosophy that we need to move towards a world without money and what I call the contributionist system?
We would agree and we would say that this is a part of the transition.
The part of the transition is that when even prior to the early flood there was a time I believe that the biblical term of where where property or gold was more important than humanity and so it is the same with the the money
In this time frame, it is like the gold.
It is more important than humanity.
Well, eventually it has to go.
And when you start all over again, it gives you that opportunity to not have that power.
But it's all about power on that dark side, if you wish to call it, or opposing side.
And many of us...
Continue.
Sorry for interrupting.
Is it possible that the shift in 2012 is going to benefit this shift towards a moneyless planet, where we move towards breaking down the concept of hierarchy And breaking down the concept of superiority and realize the oneness of the species and start moving towards the oneness and more towards...
Would you say 2012 could play a role in that?
2012 will play a role in that.
For that is part of the energy shift which you are beginning to slowly see that now.
It is a...
It is a...
Given that man must come back to its natural form.
And in order to do that, there will be a destruction of financial power.
And it is coming soon.
Has it got something to do with the activity of the Sun?
The activity of the Sun could be the destruction of the old Earth.
For those who are raising in the consciousness will be traveling with the new Earth.
It is a frequency.
Was that answered correctly in order to what you were looking for?
Yes.
Yes, it was.
Thank you very much.
I'm just thinking about what else I need to ask.
I'm starting to run out of questions right now.
I have so much on my mind.
Yes.
The vessel will only be able to take too much more of this for it depletes the vessel's Energy.
Yes.
In that case I don't want to deplete the vessel's energy any longer because I know what it feels like personally.
So I would like to say thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and experience and wisdom with us and hopefully we can do this again to get some more information and to get more enlightenment Yes,
it would be an honor and it would be an honor to allow the vessel to be in the presence of this energy for you have a greatness and a great opportunity and you have brought forth such wonderful Answers to the great puzzle.
And you will be involved in even greater transitions as this shift begins to move.
It is an honor as well.
Well, thank you very much.
I feel honored to be given this information and please let the vessel rest.
Well deserved rest and we'll speak again soon.
And this is Joe Mara from Universal Talk with Terry Apolletti and Michael Tellinger on June 10th, 2010.
Terry and I are here in central Pennsylvania and Michael Tellinger is in South Africa and we're doing a telecommunication for the first time Through Universal Talk and through Terry's channels, there is just a little bit of a limitation or a barrier, if you will, as you can see, because of the distance.
But in the future, I really would like to get the three of us together to combine our energies because, as we all know, everything is energy.
My heart is beating really fast.
So how are you feeling?
I feel pretty good.
I'm a little dehydrated.
I always come out of that I'm a little dehydrated.
And it's kind of like...
It'll all blend in with me later on down the road.
You know, like there'll be more insight that's going to pop up.
And I don't know how much more time we have.
Oh, that's good.
Okay.
And...
I'll be able to understand you a little bit more.
To tell you the truth, I've never watched your YouTube and I've never read your book, so I apologize.
That's better.
It gives us more credibility.
I'm not really sure what I said to tell you the truth.
I'll have a sip of water for you.
Yeah, I got one over there.
Thanks.
So I hope it was pretty knowledgeable for you.
You know, Joe has always been, even though I'm leaving Joe, I'm moving to Arizona in another week or two.
Joe has been a great facilitator for me because he really helped me get a little more stronger in this and accepting what has been going on.
You know, through these channels and bringing them to at least to this council that comes through.
Well, were you doubting it?
Were you doubting yourself at some sense?
Oh my God, for a long time because I used to spontaneously do this and not even know I was doing it.
I was losing bouts of time all the time and I told Joe about it and he helped me get it into some type of a semblance.
So I have no idea what I'm going to be doing in the future, but we'll just see where it goes.
You know?
That's fantastic.
That's amazing.
That's an amazing story in itself.
I've got a lot of amazing stories telling you the truth.
I'm trying to figure out how to write them, but I don't know.
We'll see what happens.
So you're going to Arizona?
Yes, I'm being called for some reason.
Okay.
I just feel that about five years ago, I was called to Wisconsin, and I recognized what that was all about, and then I ended up coming back here and meeting Joe.
And then...
And now I feel this strong urgency.
I met some people out there, and it's not that they're calling me, it's just the energy out there is calling me.
So I have a feeling it has something to do with my growth here.
And are you going to Phoenix?
Probably up higher, like Mesa or Apache Junction.
That's where I was hiking up Superstition Mountain.
And Joe was with me and all kinds of stuff was coming through.
I mean, talk about waking up all my senses.
And it was like I was going into a past life and seeing myself jump off of a cliff, you know, as an Apache Indian.
And then all of a sudden these green orbs of light started coming through my body and I'm seeing this river of blood and I'm watching.
It's like I went from past, present, and future all at once.
It's fantastic.
It's pretty cool.
It's different.
I'm excited at times and other times when things like real new comes.
I'm not afraid anymore.
That's one thing I have to admit.
I'm not afraid anymore.
But there were times when I was afraid, I have to admit.
I lived in that fear-based world.
Yeah, that fear factor thing, that's what keeps us all enslaved, isn't it?
Yeah, I think my channels have brought that to my attention, that we're still in slavery.
Fear and doubt.
We're more enslaved now, I believe, personally.
My feeling is that we're more enslaved now than at any times before.
Because of the way that the financial system and money have become an unquestionable, unassailable religion.
Yes!
Well, you know what?
Back in a world without money.
Well, this is what I try and teach people in my contributionist messages.
It's so simple to do that.
And I show them very quickly and very easily in a few basic sets how you can turn this world of suppression and economic hierarchy Into equality of all and create an abundance beyond belief.
Because the moment you remove money and you replace it with the desire for humans to fulfill their dreams, you create such abundance of wealth in everything, on every level, from science to food to From social arts and culture to technology and engineering and everything.
The abundance is so overwhelming that we can't imagine it in a capitalistic system.
Not right now we can't, but we will later on, won't we?
I truly believe that this is...
Oh, let me tell you, you've got a tremendous amount of power, so just by that energy that you're carrying right now, you watch what happens.
And put them together with a few people of like minds to see what happens.
This is why we're waking up.
We're waking up to get that energy out of there.
You know, to get that...
That energy of all this power.
Some people call it the Illuminati.
Some people call it the powers to be or whatever.
But the whole aspect of it is that once we get together and we see the simplicity, everything...
In simplicity, once we get past our egos and we get past what we've been conditioned to believe, and this is why many of us are beginning to awaken to this understanding, because this will be the new earth.
You know what you're saying?
You're talking about the ego and all that.
The biggest threats to contributionism or a world without money are rich people.
Because they fear losing what they have and they fear losing the control over others.
And yet then they sit in boardroom meetings and then the CEO starts to talk to all the guys in the boardroom saying, yeah, it's easy.
When I was 10 years old, we used to go down there and we used to make fly, you know, flyers for fly fishing.
And then I used to sell them on the side of the road.
And I said, well, wouldn't you rather be doing that?
Yeah.
Living in fear that you're going to lose your empire and having sleepless nights and firing people and wheeling and dealing and having a miserable life because you just want this control, but you don't really want it.
You've got to the stage where you can't let it go because you don't know what else to do.
I totally understand that, but you know what?
You know what?
Don't give yourself a hard time.
The whole aspect of it is that it is going to change and you are a significant part of helping that change transition.
That is a blessing all by itself because the more people who bring that energy through, that same consciousness, that same type of thought pattern, what happens is that it's inevitable.
It's just going to happen.
And everything else is going to crumble.
It's almost like it's just going to happen out of the blue.
And of course, there's going to be a lot of people suffering.
Even my trip to Arizona, I'm not even thinking about the money.
I'm just going.
You know?
And I have found that when you get into that consciousness, it just comes to you.
It's like, it is amazing.
You know, I used to not make money, and I made money.
And both times I felt poor.
You know?
And then finally, when I got broke out of that, when I broke out of that consciousness, it's almost like everything becomes just like it.
And then on the first time, people have demonstrated a victory impact.
An appeal,ήaland, is to turn .
Right now, philanthropy, you really managed as a backup partner.
That's why it did not have a good time.
Okay.
Okay.
or the world could see my future could respond to each other.
And I need to learn more.
And I'll find my, my, my, my, I need to be able to see the rest of the world.
I'm just going to ask you to ask me to ask me to ask me to ask me to ask me.
I'll see you next time.
I was gonna play them like my, the closet and stuff.
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And yeah, there's a moment you know something, attaching a reason.
I'll see you next time.
I'll see you next time.
It's probably a little bit of a carol box.
Not that it's happening to this overnight, but, you know, it would be nice if I just saw something.
Not that I hate it happening to this overnight.
Like, you know, it would be nice if I just saw something.
It's a little bit more than a day.
It's a little bit of a carol box.
It's a little bit more than a day.
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Let's go.
And then, when I first started, I used to work in the actual world when I sold you a shot in the mouth, and I lost the tooth.
I decided that I was not going to do that anymore.
And so that's why I grew up in these other places.
This is all the effects of transgressions.
It's very strange.
It's a huge, very shocking.
But they see people in the middle of the night.
And they're going to be in a train of sight.
And that's the line of information.
What I think is...
What I think is a huge, very shocking.
What I think is a huge, very shocking.
And all of a sudden, you're reaching and that would not happen if the energy was not there to make it happen. you're reaching and that would not happen if the energy You see that?
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm going to be talking about this.
I'm going to be talking about this.
You know, I like watching the situation.
I watch people heal.
I like seeing the universe work for me.
You know, things like that.
But...
You get to hear that from someone.
I do not want to get famous.
And um, because people think this is so good.
And um, because people think this is a real life lesson.
People are in the world of life.
And they're all in the world of life.
And you know what, I think it's a real life lesson.
Oh, I think Joe said many times.
That was so good.
I think I've got a lot of experience from my time.
And I think it's a real life lesson.
I'm seeing it with myself.
It's that I'm just letting go of everything that we're so comfortable with.
And now you still love us so much And we're moving into this new life
And now you're moving into this new life
And now you're moving into this new life
And now you're moving into this new life to create your creating mechanisms of changes in the universe right now.
Thank you.
Any other partners are going to see that?
Yeah, I'm going to talk to you about the fact that you're not going to see it.
And I'm going to talk to you about the fact that you're not going to see it.
And I think that's what you're going to see.
I think that's what you're going to see.
Yeah, that's what you're going to see.
Yeah, that's what you're going to see.
Oh, yeah.
The reason that this is a very novelist transition, the spherical body system we're building, as this energy changes, it's changing also as a human species.
It's changing.
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