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July 21, 2009 - Project Camelot

02:13:56

Dan Burisch, Marci McDowell Workshop, 2009 Zurich Conference

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	The End
	The End About how the immune system functions.
	That's not our purpose here today.
	There's something larger to our purpose here.
	But what we found out was this.
	We found out that somewhere near the back of the room, there was a small group of individuals who buried belief systems.
	This belief system comes from another nation state, from what we're hearing.
	We've heard this happen from two separate individuals.
	One individual told us about it who lives here in Switzerland, and another individual told us about it who lives in France.
	And there were independent pieces of information which came to us.
	And we said, oh my god, a belief system.
	We were talking primarily about the science of the issue, not a belief system.
	This would be like a Christian telling a Muslim that they're wrong, or a Muslim telling a Christian that that may be the way that it was perceived.
	And it was never intended that way.
	We were speaking only for the science of the issue.
	And what we'd just like to say is that for those individuals, even to those...
	What word did they use?
	Woundship, did I hear?
	Those individuals who courageously stayed.
	And this is why we invited people up onto the stage.
	You're the center.
	A center of a great mass of people that has no specific center aside from hopefully love.
	You're the center of all of this, not me.
	We are simply, well, we drew that straw to do what we're doing.
	And what we'd like to say to the individuals who came up to the stage is wonderful.
	Thank you.
	And to those that we promised that we would put your letters on the front of Eagles Disobey, we will.
	When we get home, we'll get them scanned in and get them up as is.
	No changes to them.
	You have a right to have your say and that's why Eagles Disobey exists.
	To those individuals who Labeled, acted fearful, acted angry.
	God bless you, and God bless them.
	God bless you and your belief system, and we hope you have long and happy and healthy lives.
	What would you...
	We have no real plans here this morning.
	This is up to you.
	What is behind us here is something which has never been broadcast to the people of Earth before.
	Have we?
	We are straining, yes.
	It's alive.
	We're all on here.
	Ben?
	Yes.
	Tell us about the phone companies.
	I know.
	We're just reporting it.
	Just to include the people...
	I almost got out of it.
	All right.
	Let's wait just for a few moments to give the rest of the people who are intending on arriving...
	Thank you.
	Maybe those present who know the individuals who are arriving can help us.
	We plead to pass on the information that we've already provided, our feelings about these issues.
	We'd be grateful to you all.
	I want to have a couple of minutes to work at 10 o'clock.
	We still have a 10 o'clock.
	I have, in fact, about two minutes.
	Sure.
	To speak with these individuals?
	Yes.
	Oh, sure.
	Just to send until I can.
	Very fine, very fine.
	We'll wait until you're concluded with that then, and then we'll continue speaking.
	Absolutely.
	We didn't realize that it wasn't 10 o'clock yet.
	I realized I just started talking.
	Yeah, we're going to hold back just a little bit because there are still some people coming and we want to make sure everybody gets in and gets seated.
	So bear with us a little bit.
	It's going to go.
	To those looking at my strange driver's license, please return it because even though I don't drive that much in Las Vegas, Martia does most of the driving.
	We really need it.
	Yeah.
	Please.
	Please.
	Please give it back.
	So we're going to wait just a few minutes, and then Ruth, I understand, wishes to speak with everyone here.
	And to those listening on the internet, hi.
	We'll just sit on a closet.
	All right.
	Better than any other.
	All right.
	In fact, everyone's going to hear the short...
	We have an audio clip with some images attached to it.
	It was easier to do it in Windows Movie format than bring them in Abby in here.
	From the morning of March 28th with Marcia actually speaking to the group the morning that the T2 date arrived.
	You're going to hear some anger at her because we had some representatives of the Illumes present.
	And specifically, Illuminati, specifically individuals who had added mining to the treaty system that ultimately resulted in what you all heard last night.
	So there was some anger that you'll hear in her voice.
	Please understand that this was anger toward them, not anger toward anyone else.
	I haven't told you that.
	Even if I have to drag him and stop me manually.
	Drag me and stop me?
	Did you say strangle?
	No, manually.
	I have to stop you then.
	We're going to have a five-minute and then a one-minute warning for tape change to Tape change takes about 30 to 40 seconds, so if I had to drag you and stop you from speaking, I would have to do something drastic.
	What happens if you're speaking when this happens?
	Oh, I'll take it.
	Moses supposes.
	Moses are roses.
	You're right.
	You can still hurt.
	Should we stick out while I think it'd be better?
	- No, I think she wants to look out.
	- You want to have a seat here?
	- Yeah, I think you want.
	Move it aside.
	- But I can speak out loud.
	This is...
	Has everyone seen this...
	See your RIV?
	Just pass your credit card in there.
	You assume I have a bank account, dude?
	laughter laughter - Speak to your wife, she handles money.
	We all are very much looking forward to this workshop.
	That's fine.
	I would like to invite you to take two minutes just to get back to yourself, back to your inner center, back to your energetic flow in your body.
	Because sometimes we get so much into our minds, and so much into ideas, and so much into emotions that we get drawn away.
	So let's take a minute to get back and start a new place.
	and I want to give him a sound that might help him to come back.
	I always like to connect myself with my higher self, with heaven in a way, and let some energy flow from the third eye to the toes and to the floor, and let all the heaviness run out into the sky. and let all the heaviness run out into the sky.
	so that my spirit can take over, that my higher self can take over, because this includes the body.
	And we are all friends out there, not finding it.
	Thank you very much.
	And enjoy the workshop with Danny and Marcy.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	The reason why This driver's license was being passed around while some of you were coming in.
	As I had asked what the difference was between...
	I'm sorry.
	They can't see.
	They can see.
	You mean the cameras?
	The cameras.
	Oh, wow.
	I was getting a signal from the back.
	Move this over.
	It's only for a couple hours.
	It's the stand.
	I had asked what the difference was between my personal driver's license and the driver's license of the Illuminati.
	One individual correctly indicated the difference is they don't have them.
	That kind of filth is driven around in limousines.
	I had also indicated, at the risk of restating a few things, which, yes, I'm going to get to the phone call.
	I'm not psychic, but yes, I'm going to get to the phone call.
	At the risk of restating a couple of things that you've already heard, we understand that there was a group of individuals who had a belief system present yesterday.
	And none of us, especially Marcia and myself, wish to offend anyone who was carrying a belief system Of bacteria, viruses, fungi, things like that.
	We were speaking from a scientific point of view, from the evidence that we know to be true.
	And we're not wishing to collide at all with anyone's belief system.
	Yet we must stand with what we know to be true as well, and we can always find common ground with one another.
	The common ground is always love.
	Yesterday, after the rather exciting evening that we had, Marcia and I were notified by one of our team members that a satellite call Some of you
	may have seen our Our former forum.
	In the Eagles team, they use such avatars as mongrel and owl and caspa and camel duster.
	Everybody knows about the mongrel.
	When you see what this very strange and very loving man looks like, you'll probably laugh again.
	But we received a satellite call.
	From the former head of the Consistory of the Majestic.
	Yes, at least two to three of the former twelve were listening yesterday.
	Listening to you all.
	I haven't heard the sound in his voice Now, we're being interrupted.
	Come on.
	I can't take such interruptions.
	I hadn't heard this kind of a crackling, this kind of a shaken sound in his voice since the 1990s.
	Of course, he's retired back into industry now from government service after the last administration departed.
	It was on wait.
	Well, it was already out and then he left.
	He was very afraid for Marcia and I because he was only hearing audio feed.
	And everyone knows Lovely.
	It's the audio feed.
	We've asked Bill, by the way, please rush the entire video out so that everybody can see everything in context.
	And he said he would do the best that he could.
	But he was very worried specifically for me.
	And we told him, look, as we passed the phone back and forth, you sent us out here.
	Had you not given these orders, the original purpose of my debriefing was for archival purposes.
	Marcia's private archive.
	I had intended to simply record for posterity as much as possible about Anne's experiences so that if someday we needed them as a reference, These days,
	these conferences were never in consideration, never a thought of mine.
	I just wanted and continue.
	And although I love every one of you, but I would continue, would want to continue just doing the research that we're doing, and to back-engineer some of the devices that we spoke about, and the Lotus research that you'll see some of the images of that wasn't shown in any other places than maybe Caltech.
	Come on in, sure.
	Hi.
	Hi, Christian.
	Well, just barely, but come on in.
	Oh, you get it.
	Come on in, enjoy.
	Is there a room?
	Is that window open in the back?
	No, it doesn't.
	I haven't seen Karen.
	There are more cameras.
	I guess it's not necessary for me to have one more camera.
	I haven't seen Karen.
	No. No. 79.
	I'm Karen.
	I'm Karen.
	I haven't seen her.
	In any case, I told him that you sent us out here.
	Thank you.
	And you needed to expect that the people would rightfully and rightly express themselves to us.
	And after a few more minutes of conversation and some tears between him and I, I told him to listen to the people's voices.
	That he heard and to make sure that the videos which were coming out of this conference were forwarded to the group which took over after Majestic.
	Should we just go ahead and name them?
	Name it?
	Not.
	The group which took over, this is going to be a very big problem because this is streaming now live.
	It's being maintained for public record.
	The new group which took over after Majestic is named Scion.
	S-C-I-O-N. Not S-I-O-N, as in the Priory of Scion.
	No, no, no.
	S-C-I-O-N, which means a transplant, such as a transplant when you would transplant a piece, a shoot of a tree onto another tree.
	It's called a scion.
	It's a biological term.
	It's a name a lot, but it's a spelling difference.
	They had asked Marcia and myself for some suggestions for names.
	And that actually, biological term, that term actually came from me.
	And it was adopted as such.
	Now this statement, which just went live over the Internet, is now out there forever, and it will cause serious military-industrial complex problems within the shadow government, even in our own country.
	But again, you have the right to know.
	An individual yelled out last night, tell us all you know.
	That's a little different.
	I can tell you, as we would proceed over the years, everything that I know and I understand and I've been educated to understand, save those future issues that it's truly my conviction, my heart, that should remain silent.
	Those issues about a potential future.
	Because I truly believe and I hope You all believe this as well, that we're going to write our own future together.
	It's ours to take.
	That's the birthright that I was speaking about yesterday.
	But the upshot for this conversation was that there was a question of whether people were capable of handling disclosure.
	That's why essentially we were sent out with the orders we were sent out with.
	I think it was testing the water.
	We said, we told her, that these people can't take it.
	They can handle it.
	They can handle this.
	They're strong.
	They're powerful.
	They're not afraid.
	They're not afraid to get like that with us.
	And we're not afraid to talk.
	These people can take this.
	So take that back to the powers, the new group, and say, think about this and make sure you make the right decision.
	These people...
	Can I handle this?
	I've got to tell you.
	Please, please.
	I would like to know the background or the reason why Majestic has sent you out for this disclosure.
	That's normally not an authority on this disclosure.
	Is that correct?
	No, no, it is not.
	This argument, which culminated in 2002 inside the Committee of the Majority, which was a cover committee over the Majestic, Resulted in the Majestic literally fraying and falling apart.
	The reason that we were sent out is because looking-glass data actually showed that a rise of consciousness in the world's population prior and during this period of transition could actually benefit in our survival during it.
	So that's why we say we're not the center of this.
	You are.
	It's everybody who's in my humble conviction and understanding just saved the world.
	Yes, sir.
	Isn't it going to be on the point that they're fearful of not whether people take it, but for their own safety?
	Oh, absolutely they are.
	Absolutely they are.
	I have rudely called them gutless before and spineless and have been in text and in record and even in interviews labeling them.
	Because they don't.
	They still were.
	They still were as of last night when we received the telephone call.
	And one of the things which provoked a little spat between him and myself is I asked him why he wasn't here.
	I mean, it's not like he's short on money.
	He didn't need to drive.
	He didn't need to fly himself here.
	He had one of the BAH... Well, I don't want to...
	I think we all know who I'm talking about here.
	I placed his name in affidavit under penalty of perjury, and I do have a personal relationship with a man, a close personal relationship, but when push comes to shove, we have to do what is right, each of us.
	He knew the risk when he sent us out here.
	It was his choice to pick the two.
	The one they have the orders read to, and initially the two to watch over me as it was put, and while the back channel stuff was going on, while we were getting closer and closer to one another, to be permanently with one another, this is something that he risked.
	And ultimately he and the last group of twelve risked.
	So they get what they get now.
	And I consider it fortunate to have been picked, though, for that.
	I really do.
	Sometimes it's hard.
	Sometimes life is hard.
	It's hard on all of you.
	It's hard on us, too.
	But you're right when you say they ran around.
	They ran away.
	Yes.
	They did not want to take their feet.
	They did not want to be held accountable and responsible.
	So they ran away, and they're protecting you.
	Yeah.
	Yes, they are.
	Yes, sir.
	In purple.
	Yeah.
	The risk that he took was that we might vary from the orders and we might also be a little more forthcoming with you all, which is what has been happening, than what they actually anticipated.
	Now, I've gone on and on and on.
	When I start speaking to the official, they have the tie on and all that garbage.
	Like I said, this is us.
	They risked everything for themselves, even though they're not willing to come out of the hiding places.
	They risked everything for themselves that we might foment even greater problems for them.
	I know things about them.
	So does Marcia.
	We know dates, times of meetings, where they've met with whom in Washington, D.C., account numbers, PIN numbers.
	We haven't used them yet.
	Marcia has threatened once or twice.
	Account numbers, PIN numbers, also contract numbers.
	And these are contracts into places such as the Defense Department of the United States.
	And just the mentioning of the name is going to be a big enough problem for them.
	Oh well, like I said, they took the risk.
	Why do you think some of the government and power people, echelon people, love us so much?
	After 20 years of working with them, I'm no longer a believer.
	I stopped being a believer the day that they raised the shade in the gallery and I saw Kiela for the first time.
	My world changed.
	My universe changed.
	It impacted me so profoundly, I had a hard time remaining standing up.
	Yes, sir?
	How is the U.S. government coping with the fact that the country is looking for us anymore to fix appointment to, like, transfer to presidency or what it is?
	Like it has been happening in Australia.
	There are a number of governments across the earth that are, are shaken at the moment because they feel the power structure slipping away and slipping into the hands of the people.
	And so be it.
	And good for us.
	Good for us.
	Finally good for us.
	They had worked for decades with the looking glass technology and became accustomed to it as one would become accustomed to taking a shot of heroin.
	And now that that is no longer in their hands, they're feeling the withdrawals.
	Well, My opinion is, let them feel the withdrawals like we have to feel every day having to go to work and struggle in our lives.
	There's no sympathy from us on that.
	I was very ginger while sitting on the stage talking about the components to the looking glass and that we had heard, that's true, we have heard, that the components not only were broken up, but separated from one another, but certain components, meaning the projection device, Have been spirited away.
	Well, not only was the projection device spirited away, so was all the CAD drawings and all of the general schematics for the devices.
	They don't have them anymore.
	Yes, sir.
	Where they are, I love all of you.
	I really do.
	I really do.
	I don't officially know.
	You're hearing that word?
	I don't officially know.
	They can go through their withdrawals and just have to come back to reality with the rest of us.
	Yes?
	I know that you said that there was like 50 such devices, if I understand.
	There were several.
	Yeah.
	So you're talking about every job demo?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	What happened is they were broken into three separate pieces and then combined together by components, such as A, B, and C. All of the A's were placed together, all the B's and all the C's.
	Well, they lost one of those components.
	We know that There are individuals right now trying to back-engineer that extra component because they're panicking inside.
	I'm not talking about the U.S. government panicking.
	I'm talking about the governments, all of the governments, who have been involved in this technology and who are addicted to it.
	Can I have a second question?
	You can.
	I don't want to like you know press you or something but the question is who can you know steal such a thing or maybe I don't understand you know how to steal such a thing you know so I know a couple of guys who steal bicycles but blame it I didn't know what you were about the history blame it on Fulcanelli
	Okay.
	Blame it on Fulcanelli.
	How did the Q94 document get spirited into my hands?
	That document, ladies and gentlemen, is quite real.
	It is a real draft document with all of the errors that Stephen and myself, Stephen Mosto, late Stephen Mosto and myself, could type.
	That day, next to the cleric's office, I actually put a CMD for a commander instead of CDR in it because I knew that it would irritate the clerk who was typing it.
	She was very mean to us.
	And what she would do, because we'd have to pass the paperwork, these are the days that we were actually using typewriters to type our draft reports, we'd have to pass the paperwork underneath a window such as like a bank window.
	And what she would do when she would get done typing, retyping our reports back and putting signature blocks on them, is she would shoot the papers back and they would drop on the floor because she did not like us.
	So we did everything we could just to be irritable back at her.
	It was an inside thing that was going on at S4. The clerk's office was located approximately in back of where the nurse's office was located that Bob Lazar actually saw.
	So, that's where the actual typing of this document occurred.
	It was leaked out by Stephen, who's no longer alive, and probably as a result of that.
	It came to me in a form that was very, very difficult to manage because it was an extremely poor version.
	It was gray and black, not black and white.
	It was horrible, gray and black.
	And it was in reverse.
	So the only way to see it, it was like it had been processed incorrectly.
	He shoved it.
	He shoved it through the copy machine in the clerk's office.
	But how he got it out of S4, I have no clue.
	I'll tell you something.
	Things generally could not be sneaked out of that facility.
	That was a highly guarded facility.
	We had what was called pan and scan.
	We would have to pan in, meaning wait.
	And have our irises, both of them, scanned before we can move from position to position.
	If we went to the restroom and lost weight because of voiding, we would have to re-pan and scan so that we would be identifiable by our weight and our iris.
	So those people that say, well, this person may have sneaked a heavy element out of S4. Sorry, it didn't happen.
	That didn't happen.
	Paperwork?
	Possibly via a courier.
	Possibly via a courier.
	That's the only thing I've been able to guess from it.
	I never got a chance to ask him before he crashed with, I believe, another family member and some friends in his aircraft.
	They just mysteriously went down.
	My other friend from up there, he, Robert Schwartz, he was hacked to death, as I understand, by a boyfriend of his daughter.
	Nobody understands why the boyfriend went.
	Kind of strange.
	He's gone as well.
	There are two original members of the Aquarius team that are alive, and that is myself and the man that I was speaking to on the phone last night, on the satellite phone.
	Everyone else is dead.
	Yes, sir?
	Were they humans?
	No, were they humans?
	The P-52s were, to the best of my knowledge, the P-45s violate any agreement that they can possibly get away with violating.
	They had an extremely, almost a fascist intent about them.
	They didn't care about the treaties, although they knew that they had to comply with them to a certain extent.
	And if they could get away with something, they did, and do.
	I'm hoping at this time that the separation of the timelines has been such that they no longer have contact with us.
	I was going to ask that.
	The separation of timelines, does that mean that the Orions and the generals are no longer distant?
	Yes, as I understand.
	However, I am in direct possession of information to suggest that they are still on orbit and also near our moon for the purpose of removing heirlooms.
	Now, I had to suck this up pretty hard last night when David He apologized to me, actually, after we were sitting out here drinking this, starting to drink this wonderful beer.
	He apologized to me.
	He said, I'm so sorry for putting you on the spot.
	I said, why?
	I put you on the spot.
	Because no one knew that he had suffered from swine flu.
	But it was a useful example at the time, because we were talking about something that's so important to all of us, and that's our health.
	And so I know he's a giving and a loving and a wonderful and very bright man.
	And so I took that chance at that moment that his heart would extend that direction and it did.
	And then he took that same chance back at us.
	The reality of what was going on, if you'd like to know...
	When I was on board in 73, after I had been abducted at May Boyer Park and came into contact with the former MJ-1's son who passed away on board, that son was already on board as a collateral heirloom.
	Collateral.
	As in, I want collateral for a loan.
	The P-45s took collateral for the loan to agree to the treaties.
	Well, that same collateral after I accepted the final orders.
	I was informed that same collateral was then in place for me.
	Which meant that my lovely six-year-old daughter would likely have been taken as collateral and not returned.
	The only way...
	It was slightly misstated.
	Last night for me to get out of Majestic, no.
	It was for me to keep them here.
	I did what I had to do because the P-45 J-Rods are extremely legalistic.
	They want the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law.
	And it was required that anyone who had care, custody, and control was called Senior Echelon.
	And as soon as those final orders arrived, I was called Senior Echelon.
	Same as a J number again.
	The same as one of the twelve, again, as soon as I accepted those orders, I was part of a treaty codicil, a separate portion of the treaty, of which I was unaware until I was informed of that.
	So when it came time for the divorce issue to proceed with the former wife, There was also a decision and a near panic between Marcia and myself to get the divorce done before June 1st.
	Had that not been done before June 1st, I would have been in care of custody and control of those two young ladies, and one of them would not be here now.
	She would have been taken in the middle of the night, and there would have been nothing that her mom could have done about it.
	In the same way that I was taken in the middle of the night on October the 15th with a full house full of mature ladies and children and no one heard a thing and all of my property was removed.
	There was a group which was brought in called the Ghost Riders.
	They do not make sound while they work.
	That is their modus operandi.
	I brought them in.
	She brought them in to have me removed in safety.
	But there are other units like them And they would have come in and probably enforced the treaty issues for the J-Rods and the child, this beautiful little child that I call Little Troll.
	She stands about this tall and she reminds me of Little Troll.
	She would have been taken in the middle of the night.
	So what was I supposed to do?
	When you love someone, you protect them.
	I'll be in good sweaters because of their humans.
	Yes.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes, they're operatives.
	They're a crack team.
	Absolutely correct team.
	I brought them in on the project because I needed the very best I could find.
	So I pulled some strings and I asked for some papers.
	And I had our team that is loving and loyal toward us just because they happened to have worked with Dan and built great friendships and become very fond of us all.
	Plus, Other Majestic Operatives who were very skilled, they took control of the entrances and exits of the locations.
	Mongrel and Owl were the two who actually removed me from the apartment.
	If you know the names Mongrel and Owl, Stephen and Ryan, they're the ones that actually came in.
	It was Stephen who put his arms around me and told me I would be fine.
	They came in looking like the Borg.
	They had their night vision on and they had weapons out.
	For fear that members of the Illuminati were actually inside of the apartment and would have tried to hold me.
	They didn't know for sure.
	They weren't able to watch the apartment that well for fear of being seen themselves.
	So it was a situation of a surveillance problem that was going on at the same time.
	So they came in with full armor on, automatic weapons out, and extracted me.
	In silence.
	Relative silence.
	Very quietly took him into a van and Then the ghost riders came in and in absolute silence removed personal property, extraordinary amounts of personal property.
	The 20-year-old, the 20-year-old who was the two-year-old child of Deborah, when I married Deborah, She actually came out into, as I understand, through the living room and into the kitchen wearing a nightie, got herself something to drink, something like a Coca-Cola or whatever, and the ghostwriters were in the living room at the time and she never once saw them or heard them.
	She's a pretty perceptive young lady.
	They're very good at what they do and I was happy that most of the property was removed because most of the property that I had in there was all of the Lotus data.
	The Lotus research data, the CDs and the background data, the tapes.
	We've got hundreds of them.
	Hundreds, thousands of images that have been produced over the research.
	Plus, items of personal property that have been passed to Dan through his family members.
	My important hat.
	His hat, his grandfather's camera, things like this that are irreplaceable, were spirited out and placed under lock and key in various locations under various walls to protect them.
	I was looking for the card from Grandma and Grandpa, but I'm not finding it.
	That's fine.
	Is it in here?
	No, they're trained.
	After this experience, by the way, we...
	I went up to one of the nature parks near the Alps on the first day in.
	We got some Swiss patches.
	I've had a Los Angeles Angels baseball I had on since I was a little boy.
	In fact, I had one on the day I was abducted.
	A different style, A, at the time, but nevertheless it's the same team.
	They were called the California Angels at the time.
	I have never had anything aside from an angel in the center of it.
	I do believe in angels.
	I think it's because the angels believe in you.
	I'd appreciate that.
	Well, we got some patches, but after this experience with you all, for my entire life, I've never placed anything except for my name inside my cap and this angel on it.
	I'm going to put the Swiss patch on my hat.
	Yes.
	Oh, my.
	That looks like a block A. It is a block A. May I? Thank you.
	Would you like to trade?
	You trade?
	Thank you.
	See, I got the block here.
	Thank you.
	I got the better deal out of this, you see, because the style of the A, the style of the A in 1973 was approximately the same style.
	You'll see little picks out, little stylized picks out on the side of the A for the more recent baseball caps.
	So this will be my new baseball cap.
	What a treasure.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	We may have to place a sizer in it.
	Let's see here.
	Well, I don't know.
	I'd wear it like this.
	We place a sizer in it, but this will be my new hat.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	- Happiness.
	Happiness.
	- Yes.
	- I only thought it back.
	- I thought it back.
	- It's the style of the egg that's so important.
	- I know.
	- Yes.
	- I don't know why I just have to have that one.
	- You don't mind?
	- Inside it says 50.
	That's my age.
	It's written 59 and that's written inside as well.
	It is.
	Would you sign this for us please?
	So I can carry your name in this.
	I won't tell anybody if you don't want it known or anything like that.
	I believe I already have.
	Let me see if the name...
	Now, you'll probably see a very worn name, Crane.
	That's actually my family name.
	Marcia and I are going to be legally returning to my first original name, hopefully within the next few months.
	So I'll again be known as Danny B. Crane, my original name.
	Tiffany, the now 20-year-old at the time, I was just going to be starting school.
	And so in 1995, I changed over to the name Burish because her biological father obviously was not present.
	And what we did not want to do, because Deborah at that time was carrying the name Crane, it was Deborah K. Crane at the time, we did not want her to have questions asked her at school.
	So what we did, because she was carrying the name Burish...
	Deborah was your woman, sir.
	No, Deborah was my wife.
	Tiffany was my daughter.
	Tiffany continued to carry the name Burish at the insistence of her grandmother and her grandfather.
	Her grandfather has now passed away.
	Her grandmother is still living.
	Burish.
	Yes, it was Burish.
	She had the name Burish.
	However, the wife and myself had the name Crane.
	So I changed the name over to Burish to make it easier on Tiffany.
	No, it was totally personal.
	It was a totally personal decision.
	Thank you very much for the honor.
	Do you want me to place any more than that?
	All right.
	Thank you very much.
	I got the better trade.
	I got the better trade.
	Yes, sir.
	The splitting of the races between the Iranians and the J-Rods.
	By the way, let's start to start.
	How did the name J-Rod go from here?
	The name J-Rod was originated through communications between multiple J-Rods and a unit called Sigma.
	This was the Communications and Linguistics Unit, which was working for the Majestic.
	What he did is he identified himself as a number.
	And how he did that is he picked the J, which is the tenth letter in the English alphabet.
	They know what the J looks like.
	What do you want me to do with this?
	They pick the 10th letter in the English alphabet, which is J.
	That was 10.
	And he pointed toward an inertial bar symbol, which was also in the teleprompter system in the Queensphere.
	Which was a, it looked like a rod or an inertial bar.
	To him that meant five, because it was a combination involving the Mayan number system.
	So ten and five was fifteen.
	The name J-Rod simply means fifteen.
	He identified himself as coming from a base, a temporary base, fifteen light years from Earth.
	That is the origin of the name J-Rod.
	And I have a question about the looping box.
	Is there an explanation why the looking glass could not see beyond 2012?
	Because there was...
	It did.
	It did?
	It wasn't good time for us.
	There was something...
	No, there were views that went up for several hundred years past 2012.
	The statement is very white.
	Yeah. - How did it? - Sometimes you're more viewers.
	That the looking glass turned white?
	Maybe he's talking about the Orion Cube, because there were some issues involving the Orion Cube.
	But let me explain something here for a moment.
	It's something that the listeners on the internet may want to hear as well.
	We had mentioned about the INRI cross of Henday.
	In Code Cross, Should we pass, now the first two numbers for IN add up, just so happen to add up to 60, which was the number of years that Majestic existed, leading us toward what was called the Shar.
	It was 50 and 10 as I understand, and then 200 and another 10 INRI, or 10 and 50 and then 210.
	May I ask a small question there?
	Sure.
	That is the Kabbalistic approach that letters have an associated...
	That's Gematria.
	Okay, but what I know is that in the Hebratic alphabet there are no vocals.
	No.
	The Nikud is a vowel system added to that.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Can I continue with that?
	I'm not a linguist though, please.
	Can I just continue with my language?
	Sure.
	Sure.
	I want to know, because the potassium is supposed to have happened right about now, would it have been the timeline?
	Yes.
	Well, that would have been what we nicknamed timeline 2.
	It was a very dark nickname, but it was a nickname nonetheless.
	I'm not sure what we're on right now.
	It doesn't really matter how it is.
	Right, and that's the whole point.
	And then the Arians were supposed to have left the Earth.
	Yes.
	Several thousand years after the disaster, yes.
	The Earth doesn't quite stack up yet.
	Several thousand years after the disaster, yes.
	Yes, we are talking a large expanse of time after the disaster, before they ever began reconstituting themselves, before we did on the surface of the Earth, reconstitute ourselves to the point to leave.
	Okay.
	We're talking about a lot of time here.
	Because the Orions, you said that the Orions somewhere, I think it was on your resume on Camelot, said that the Orions left the time of the catastrophe.
	No.
	No.
	And if that's written anywhere, please show us where because that would be wrong.
	Well, they just stated that they left a few thousand years afterwards.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, it's fine.
	That's fine.
	Okay, that's fine.
	And since they did that...
	Does this mean, I did ask you this before, that we're never going to see them again, because we're on the wrong time.
	Well, as I said, I understand that there are a couple different things.
	I understand that there were teams left behind in case the disaster still occurred.
	These individuals ostensibly would know that they may not be able to go home again.
	Because it doesn't exist?
	Well, they may not be able to traverse the wormhole system again after we get done with the transit.
	I'm not certain about that.
	But does that mean that we're never going to see any other items again?
	No.
	And in fact, this is why.
	This is why I raised...
	Oh boy.
	I raised the specter of a couple hundred years of viewing with a looking glass, and I also raised the issue of INRI on the cross of Hyundai.
	We mentioned the first two adding up to 60, meaning the number of years from the time of the inception of Majestic to its official Ending by the end of the orders, 2007.
	Now, of course, they officially broke off at the end of 2005, but the orders, they stood adjourned to the completion of the orders.
	The completion of the orders ended technically at the end of 2006.
	However, well, okay, at the end of 2006.
	So if you count from 2007 and you add the last two numbers up, On the cross of Henday, that is exactly the date that was seen as the date of first alien contact.
	Who will be contacting you?
	No.
	No, a true alien of non-human lineage.
	First true alien contact.
	That would place it long about 2217 or 2218.
	That kind of hurt me when I found out personally because I would like to meet a true alien.
	I've met an extraterrestrial but not an alien.
	I've met an extraterrestrial of human lineage, several of them, but not a true alien.
	We should not.
	The public should not.
	Thinking empirically, Yes, sir.
	Oh, yes, sir.
	Everything, for instance, all of my interactions, and there were well over 100 direct interactions in the clean sphere.
	All of the interactions were video, audio, taped from multiple directions.
	Marcia, in fact, at her very short time when she toured S4 saw some of the videos.
	They're obviously highly secure, and I wish they would not be.
	It'd be the greatest thing in my life, to be honest with you, with some of the questions that have been raised and some of the statements and the labels that have been applied to us, if they just release the darn videos and let it be, and let people claim that they're hoaxed, you know, fine, okay, but in any group of, well, I can only speak for some of the ufological groups that we've interacted with in the U.S., we've been treated much more politely.
	Here, much more politely.
	In fact, while we were walking toward the Volkshaus for the panel interview that had not yet occurred, I looked over at Marcia and I said, this now raises the specter of my having to ask certain people in our beloved country who are involved in the ufological organizations exactly what is your major malfunction?
	These people get it.
	What's wrong here?
	Is it just anxiety because of our culture or what?
	Our own euthological people are basically Yes, sir.
	At least most...
	Well, I can say rather authoritatively.
	That all of them within the United States have been.
	We have the Majestic Poplaristics Unit in place to provide as much disinformation to the population as they could force on them.
	Yeah, they did a good job confusing people about this.
	Okay.
	Then he dragged me off the stage.
	I think it's a problem.
	Oh, psychologist is right.
	Ben, may I ask you a question?
	No!
	Well, I asked you before on the post, you know, you had made...
	And the telephone.
	And during the telephone call, we have a wonderful telephone call.
	I was probably one of the last persons to talk to you over the telephone call.
	Via phone?
	That's quite possible, given what Marcia has intended.
	Thank you very much.
	Aside from our close personal friends having to do with the Golden Thread, the-goldenthread.proboards.com.
	The real one.
	The pleasant one, the polite one, the one where people who were from the original inception of The Golden Thread will call it book one and will call this Golden Thread book two, kind of like the Tale of Two Cities.
	The second book is called The Golden Thread.
	Please, please.
	I was just wondering if you had one of your drawings from J-Lord with you.
	Because, of course, we would love to see how he would have looked like.
	I don't think we brought any of your art.
	That one I didn't plan.
	Now, how do I get around the seat?
	Can I see it from this side?
	All right.
	I was warned, though, about the barrier.
	If you could return to...
	I'm not certain if I have one here or not.
	If not, we'll put an image up on the front of eaglesdisombey.net for everyone to see.
	I've done a one hand drawing and I've done a couple of computer graphic drawings.
	These are the dossiers.
	Let me just look here for a moment.
	Well, that's what is entoded into the cross of combat.
	Yeah, but Dan just said...
	Some 2200.
	22, I think.
	Maybe I misheard you.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, people are saying it's 2017.
	No.
	Really?
	But Dan was just saying 22.
	Well, I'm saying...
	Well, in my opinion, my opinion on this is that absolutely it could happen.
	That's my opinion.
	Being that we're on a path that we do not know, who knows?
	Yet this was encoded via J-ROD contact.
	So that encoding, even the encoding on the cross of Hyundai, it says that there are two catastrophes.
	Well, we've avoided one of them already.
	So why not the second catastrophe being avoided?
	And why not the date of first contact, which was indicated on the cross, be avoided as well?
	It makes perfect sense.
	No, we do not have one of those images.
	I'm sorry.
	They completely derail the encoding because they're based on their history.
	Whereas we have made significant changes now and made changes in the catastrophe.
	So, we're on a new path.
	It could!
	We are on a completely new path.
	Yes, I'm hoping.
	I am hoping it happens.
	I want to see it.
	I want to see human beings on Mars.
	Obviously, we have a certain fascination with Mars.
	When we get back, we'll show some images too.
	Just to make it clear for me, once we went to a new line, timeline, Everything has to change.
	I mean, how is it possible that still some things from the other life come from our new life?
	Well, reality is I understand it.
	They are going to see this hand on me now.
	We're good?
	All right, thank you.
	Could I have you please repeat your question?
	I... Okay, I... The question is that once we have changed the timeline, it's like changing a railroad track.
	We go to a different direction.
	So therefore, I don't have to quite get it.
	How is it possible if we avoid it already in one catastrophe, so we are waiting on a different train or track, how is it possible that still future events can move on to the next track?
	I don't personally view it because of the contact with the JROG that they are separate physical Newtonian As in physical, if I drop this, it's going to move toward the center of the earth.
	Newtonian tracks.
	This is more a quantum issue that has actually leapt over into our reality.
	That our reality is actually a multiverse reality.
	Yet the transducers that we have in our heads are allowing us to see only one of the universes.
	In other words, as he understood it and told me, which was quite mind-blowing to me, that when we pass away, and these transducers are no longer functioning, we then become part of the multiverse.
	And so we find out that all of our other selves, even all of the other parts of ourselves and everyone else, are all together in one location.
	That's the unity which is underlying the system of reality, as he indicated.
	So things can phase in, things can phase out, and we may be looking across several timelines at one another and may be actually reducing by agreement with each other While we're on the other side, reducing by agreement with each other what we're willing to accept as reality.
	It's a rather complicated thing, and if you don't understand it, you're right with me, because I've been trying to understand that as well.
	Yes, sir.
	I'd like to make a comment.
	Yes.
	I'd like to make a comment.
	It could be there exists footage that very few people are aware of of parallel worlds.
	Parallel worlds.
	There is footage of that from the Orion cube.
	This cube, which was given to Eisenhower in 1954, As a gift which was an exchange of technology at the inception of the treaty process.
	Depending upon the user, that gift, you could have some influence on your personal disposition, could cause what you were seeing to differ because of the probabilistic nature of it.
	And there were Parallel issues seen which could not be subtracted out as just probables of us here and now.
	So, in fact, that's probably substantiated what you're suggesting.
	And that also was a quantum over-the-horizon looking device.
	Do you think people are ready if this video is going to be released?
	Would people be ready for this or not?
	Given what I saw last night and what I saw here today and even the night before, the answer is yes.
	Now, this gentleman back here is in your question.
	Oh, another question from our friend, yeah.
	No, that's great.
	We're looking at a four-minute window to a...
	What you're saying is pretty much the same as what I saw on the internet about Micho Haku.
	And he says that there's a multiple Multiverse of universes exist, where every possibility in the other universe exists.
	So it means that you have today this shirt, but in other universes you choose other shirts, and in other universes you have coffee mowing or don't have coffee mowing.
	Wait a minute, now!
	That's how one has it, how do you think about it?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I absolutely can accept that within my personal philosophy.
	It can phase in and out and I think that by agreement, given that there's a unity underlying all of reality, we may have agreed to be, as Bill said, on this adventure together.
	And that is a really cool thing.
	I look at it a little bit differently, and I'm not sure if this makes sense or not, but I'm seeing it as facets.
	Look at a big gemstone, and you've got all these beautiful, beautiful facets in the big gemstone, beautiful facets.
	And every time you look into the gemstone, it's a little bit different.
	Now, how you look into the gemstone is how you see the gemstone, but it's still the same gemstone.
	So maybe we were looking at the gemstone here, and then now we've made changes, and now we're looking at this section of the gemstone.
	Same gemstone.
	Finish after the break, we're going to show you some images you might enjoy seeing.
	We have images here with us from Emanation of the Solfeggio, which is our latest e-book that's available on our website.
	The foreword is by Leonard Horowitz, Dr.
	Leonard Horowitz.
	See?
	So, if anybody asks about emerging viruses and issues like that, Leonard and we have a regular communication stream.
	We're aware, we are aware, and we're just trying to be responsible with everything.
	Yes.
	You shared the point of view of David Kukov's on his overview regarding 2012.
	I'm not understanding me.
	Do you agree with David Wilcox on his opinion about possible 2012 and...
	Specifically, which opinion?
	Oh, he's very optimistic.
	Oh, yes.
	While we had some personal fear when we walked in on the morning of March 28, 2009, that the Pacific Ocean may be greeting us in the Las Vegas Valley, we still knew in our hearts that we were going to survive.
	And that is exactly what we believe.
	Yes, sir?
	I just have a simple question about the treaties.
	Can you elaborate in which nations have participated and how the representatives have been selected?
	The representatives were selected via the Committee of the Majority interaction with the United Nations.
	The person who actually brokered the political agreement creating the Committee of the Majority And bringing the treaty system even more into an internationalized view was Indira Gandhi.
	Most of the UN nations The representatives were selected at the times that the countries actually came into the information.
	The US sat on it for a long period of time as a military issue.
	It was only in 1953 when Aquarius, the actual first Aquarius project was formed, that they became certain that there were time travelers.
	Previous to that in 1941 or 1942 at Cape Girardeau, has anybody heard of that with a crash in Missouri?
	There was actually a Huffman, a reverend, who gave last rites over some crashed beings.
	And no one understood at the time why he was giving last rites.
	He was giving last rites to them because there was a communication underway as they were dying that they were human beings.
	Therefore, the issue of last rites, as within our culture, was appropriate for them.
	That they actually sought it out via communication with him.
	But a number of countries, and how those delegates were picked was via communication with the nation states at the time.
	And then those individual nation states selected individuals to the Committee of the Majority, and then they became parties to the treaty.
	Ladies and gentlemen, I was told to please engineer a great man 11 and it's 11:01.
	15 minutes.
	A question was asked during the break concerning the appearance of the J-Rod.
	I was asked, was the J-Rod solid?
	Yes, the J-Rod was solid, but the J-Rod also appeared off-shifted in a strange way.
	That's about the best I can explain it.
	I don't really have words to indicate it.
	It's maybe to say he didn't appear as though he belonged.
	You can look across the table and see another human being across the table and we know we belong here.
	There was something, aside from what he looked like and how the communication was underway, there was just something wrong.
	And I think that something wrong was a separation issue.
	Actually, this is a segue, a very good relational question, because I was asked at the break if I could propose a question to Dan on behalf of one of the members of the Browning Group.
	She would like to know more about the occasion in the Queen's sphere when you were suited up and you happened to have a procedural break wherein the J-Rod stepped toward you out of the procedural format and you stepped back where the Catching your foot.
	Well, you know what?
	I'm going to go ahead and put you on the spot first then with this, which will ultimately probably not weigh well for me, but tell them about the first time that we met at Vashti's.
	All right, all right.
	The question actually segued.
	The full question was the communication that took place at that moment.
	Could you elaborate slightly?
	I understand.
	The very first time that I I met then.
	It was in 1980.
	We'll understand in a moment why I asked her.
	At a party.
	I have been actually taken around Europe, taken around different parts of the United States and in different parts of the world because my family was trying to introduce me to the right people.
	I didn't know at the time that my father was a majestic courier Under the forestall administration and he was required to go from country to country to country carrying sensitive, majestic documents.
	But I never knew that.
	But they wanted me to, they were grooming me.
	So I happened to be at a party at Vashti Bunyan's farm up in northern England, Scotland.
	It was called Wester Cumbrescini.
	It was technically up in the Cumbermold area of Scotland.
	And this party actually The father of Bathsheba Yip was the gentleman with whom Dan was staying in England and studying microbiology, working with him under his tutelage as a young man, as a microbiologist.
	So he brought Dan to the party.
	I was having a wonderful time, and I noticed this rather gangly 16-year-old young man.
	Gangly?
	Looking at me, his eyes went like that.
	A red-haired goddess walked in.
	Well, I was a lot younger.
	Anyway.
	He managed to step backwards toward the kitchen floor and put his foot right into a silver trash can, at which point he stumbled backwards right to the kitchen floor That's how I first remembered him and met him.
	So when he fell backwards in the clean spirits, it's no surprise.
	It was for different reasons, though.
	I was not taken by the J-Rod as I was taken by you.
	It was a whole different series of emotions, trust me.
	What happened is when we were introduced, we would go through medical checks.
	We actually suited.
	Initially deconned and then placed in a gantry ramp and wheeled over to the clean sphere.
	We would then have to hose into the clean sphere, open up airlines and emergency ducts.
	And also do communications checks.
	While all of this was going on, I was supposed to be having all of the information about what I was supposed to do inside there, already memorized.
	Looked good doing it, because if you didn't, the number two channel that was going up to the surveillance unit inside of S4 would be telling you to get back to work.
	And then I would be introduced into the clean sphere.
	I was to step to the right.
	There was a symbol of a, anthropomorphic symbol, symbol of a human being, giving a friendly symbol, which was a real joke for Kaela.
	Because I would stand there and go like this, and he would be laughing at me.
	Well, I did it.
	And then I was supposed to do the bridle step toward him, indicating that I was a friend stepping toward him inside of the Sigma unit that I mentioned before for the linguistics, the Sigma unit's protocols.
	So I would do a bridle step.
	Well, he got a little cheeky one day.
	And as I took a step forward, he took a step forward.
	Now, I kind of suppressed my emotions about it at that point, because no matter how friendly he was with me, and I was with him, and even unbeknownst to Majestic and the operations team, how much we were talking amongst each other.
	He was still who he was, and I was still who I was.
	And he was handling who I was a lot easier than what I was handling who he was.
	I then summoned my guts up and took another bridal step forward.
	And when he stepped forward again at me, still laughing at me, and I could hear him laughing through me as I kind of felt like I was falling toward him, I panicked.
	I had this visceral response.
	I panicked and I stepped backward.
	As I stepped backward, I hit either my right or my left shoe.
	I don't remember which, to be honest.
	However, that video I hope that God has never played.
	But I stepped backward and caught one of my heels on one of the greats.
	As I did so, I fell over backward.
	Now, I was in a very unwieldy suit, in a suit which was slightly too small for me.
	I was in a woman's, totally encapsulated, essentially moon suit.
	I'm not that big of a guy.
	And the only thing that would fit me, the only totally encapsulated unit that would fit me there, was the one female bio-warfare suit that they had.
	So they would fit the bell on me, and it was slightly too short on me, so the bell would actually press down on the top of my head with a ring on the inside of the bell, and it was actually painful.
	It was also very difficult to walk, essentially a poly-type wingsuit, one would expect.
	Well, when I fell over backward, I was lying.
	He looked like a cockroach.
	A cockroach doing this business.
	Well, when I began reaching out, I was panicking as it was when I fell backward.
	And I began stretching my arms out trying to right myself.
	At that point, he continued to step toward me and actually walked up onto my chest.
	Now I'm in a worse panic.
	But he began to entrain me and raise the Hertz level that he was entraining me with to begin flooding me with the enkephalins, the opiates, to calm me.
	Now I knew at that moment that I was okay.
	Well, get enough opiates flooding your brain, you're going to think you're okay anyway, no matter what.
	But I felt fine.
	And then I was listening at that same time between Channel 1 and Channel 2, flipping back and forth inside of the bell, because I could hear it literally ringing inside of the bell from my earpiece, that they were preparing to change the pressure inside of the clean sphere to harm the J-Rod.
	It's a process called intumescence, where they would actually cause pain by changing the atmospheric pressure.
	If you fly, your ears might hurt.
	Well, they can change the pressure enough to cause extreme pain through the body, and his body was of less density, and I don't mean as some people have described third, fourth, and all of that density, that's a little bit beyond my understanding, as in mass over volume density, physical density.
	He was of less density than what we are, given his physical conditions under which he grew.
	So they were getting ready to fire the repress valves in there.
	Yes.
	To knock him off from me.
	They thought I was being attacked.
	May have been.
	But it was not with a negative intention from him.
	I then fell back into...
	I was lying down, but I'm saying I drifted back into what he was communicating and had very little command over what I was doing at that point.
	The communication went on for some time, and all I remember seeing are streams of...
	Could you put Zurich 15 up, if you please?
	Thank you very much.
	There it is.
	Streams of that.
	That is what their shadow language actually looks like, or looked, depending upon your personal consideration about what happened to them.
	I'd like to think looks, because he had a boy and I hope that he's at home with his son now.
	Marcia has presently in Las Vegas 450 diary volumes full of that.
	What does this represent?
	That is, in fact, the shadow language of the J-Rods.
	They would hold their hands, somebody can see the shadow here, under a projected light, and they would actually communicate as a passing screen was recording it.
	Their language is Composed of three separate parts.
	A central feature, reading from right to left, but a central feature, which is either an ideogram or a consonant.
	And then vowels.
	So if you see items like this, for instance, from the P24 crash, the I-beams from Roswell, those are actually vowels that are on the I-beam.
	We've got 450 volumes of it.
	Most of the time that he was downloading the information, it simply streamed into my brain looking as what you see here.
	This was written by me from right to left, and if you think of 450 diary volumes full of it, that is what Marcia is the caretaker of.
	Yes, it has been projected into a negative for the purpose of the showing today because Stan Goldstein, the former chief psychologist for the Consistory of the Majestic, suggested that it might be less, I don't know why, less shocking.
	My concern was this.
	I had a concern about showing this at all.
	Marcia wanted me to show it.
	I was concerned that, being an abductee myself, that some of you may have seen something of this nature.
	In fact, this was planned to be shown the first night, the first interview.
	But everything was somewhat moved, derailed, and shifted and changed in the conversation.
	And so this was actually written as a black-on-white paper.
	It's all written with black on white paper.
	So I had this streaming in and at the same time I found myself inside of what appeared to be another reality, a 3D hologram, like a holodeck from Star Trek.
	And was being shown other items, for instance, his home, items concerning historical items, which I honestly have our own historical items, which I have to be very careful about because there are many perspectives in this room.
	And I don't wish to offend anyone.
	I will be very reticent to speak about certain things.
	For instance, we don't go to religious issues.
	We don't go to religious issues.
	I feel that we're put here to understand one another and to exist with separate religions.
	This is my personal feeling.
	To exist with separate religions so that we can understand God via our difference and where we can find common ground.
	So, The specific items that he may have showed me concerning that genre, I would be very reticent to...
	He showed you images of his home?
	He did.
	His planet, his society, his school, where he functioned.
	He showed me the Guiza system where they departed from, and many other things.
	This is, in fact, part of the actual decode which contained the March 28, 2009 date.
	It was cut off because the line just continued.
	So I took it where it mentions March 28, 2009, but I should not.
	I beg your forgiveness, I should not say where it says March 28, 2009 in it.
	That will provide a potential for linguists' primer as to how to read their language.
	Now, if they have been part of us but were separated as a partition from our species, this language may never officially exist, even though you're seeing it.
	It may never officially exist.
	If it is decodable from what we have up here, then so be it.
	We've shown you the truth to that extent.
	So be it.
	But we should not give a dictionary, this is what an A looks like, this is what a B looks like.
	That would be a very bad idea, personally, I feel right now.
	At least right now.
	I mean, my opinions could change, but personally...
	Yes, sir.
	Can you read it yourself?
	Yes, sir.
	Marcia has, in fact, had me...
	This was the inception of the big problem for March 28, 2009.
	Save the date itself.
	This indicated March 28, 2009.
	This is actually the transliteration into English, the best one that we could form.
	Now, you may see the word Beanie at the start.
	Beanie.
	That's what he personally called me because I was asked about my childhood when he was talking to me about his childhood, and I told him that I was a great fan of Cecil and Beanie.
	A cartoon, a U.S. cartoon.
	It's a cartoon back in the 50s and 60s.
	I used to watch it too.
	It was cute.
	Earth was referred to as ERT. This is actually the date for three days.
	And it placed it in Marse, which is March.
	In...
	It was his way of speaking about Great Britain.
	And that's why I said the only country on the net in typed testimony, the only country that was actually named in this was England.
	But that is how they remembered the name for England.
	It was just called Ing.
	Well, you have to think, what do we exactly know and remember from 2,000 years ago?
	How much do we, I mean, we weren't there, so how much do we really remember and know?
	How about if you were to try to remember what happened 52,000 years ago?
	How much would we know for sure and remember?
	We would have our best Bits and pieces of it.
	I think it's the same time.
	This was the greatest concern, too.
	The greatest concern for us was March 28, 2009.
	We're talking a 52,000-year difference.
	Does this describe catastrophe?
	Yes.
	In fact, it says, join no more sea, a specific indication concerning the moment of the beginning of the catastrophe, which would result in our partitioning.
	But the thing which gave me hope, great hope when I read it, was time ancients, that's us, the cavemen and women, time ancients must decide joining.
	And that's all of us.
	We have to decide.
	This is up to us.
	And when that was decoded with it, that gave me a great deal of hope for our future.
	What was the catastrophe about?
	The catastrophe was approximated with the use of wormhole access technology on Earth, which then caused a between one and four degree geophysical pole shift of planet Earth.
	The mantle and crust slid.
	It was an asthenosphere situation where it slid and some waters actually poured out.
	Some of the mantle waters under high pressure that had been discovered poured out as well and there was a great inundation.
	Now, one individual walked up after the interview and showed me a photograph of a rainbow.
	And so that's the one thing.
	The rainbow that personally, from my own personal history, that has really lifted me up inside, emotionally, spiritually, lifted me up.
	his bow in the clouds.
	We were promised in the Hebrew holy books that we would not be destroyed by water again.
	And then the evidence of the promise was the way he bowed in the clouds.
	So Great hope.
	Great hope.
	So anyway, the download, the majority of it looked and looks like this.
	And so Marcia has had me decoding now, slowly moving through the books and decoding the diaries.
	I didn't know what I was writing when I wrote it.
	It was simply shoved in and then pushed back out onto the papers.
	No, I can go page by page only somewhat now.
	It's starting to fade.
	I can only remember so much.
	When Dan reads, because of the way that his mind is wired to function and design, he does not read so much as memorize.
	For example, when at one occasion I needed to go to a certain image in order to facilitate the research, I asked him if he could remember what book it came from, and he went, the book name, the book page, halfway at the page, located at this shelf, over to the right, This level of the library there.
	I went there.
	I'm not special, I'm just different.
	I went there.
	I went through the book.
	I opened the book up.
	I opened up the page.
	Perhaps these ladies and gentlemen would like to hear you on the morning of March 28, 2009.
	Now, I had previously indicated, I'm not sure if this was before everybody came into the room or not, That you might hear some mean tones out of Marcia.
	We had people that were present who helped sign the treaties.
	We lured them with them not knowing that March 28, 2009 was the date.
	We lured them to Las Vegas and had them put up in the hotels in Las Vegas.
	We made sure Stephen and Brian were in charge, in fact, of the operation.
	We made sure, because we had enough people there, That they would be unable to leave the night before the meeting.
	I don't want to...
	They were our guests.
	They were our guests whether they wished to remain our guests or not.
	Another reason is a couple of the people that we had present were those who had my name added to the treaty system as well.
	And we were pretty upset about that.
	Well, yeah.
	Because I never assented to my name being added to the treaty system.
	I wanted to make sure they had a ringside seat.
	They had a series of western facing rooms between 15 and 25 floors up.
	We did in fact have the bolts removed from the windows in this particular hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada.
	In case the oceans, if they would happen to see the oceans coming from the west, they were welcome to leave the room by any means other than the room's door.
	We're not real happy with this.
	If humanity was going to drown like rats, so were they.
	The treaty is going to be expunged at the end of 2020.
	We were told right before the operation happened where Marcia actually had me extracted, she and I were having conversations about that.
	And we said we can't wait another 12 years.
	Uh...
	We had waited 18 years to be together.
	18.
	Add another 12 to that.
	We wanted some life left in us and not to be held apart any further.
	And so we took the risk.
	She took the risk that day.
	We figured that they would be too busy with the formation of the new group.
	The new group of Illumes that came into the five councils, there are five separate councils, five councils of what are called the Ariel Pagites, the Illuminati.
	I cannot name them, or that would be considered, officially name them, meaning who is seated at the heads of those five councils, or that would be considered something that they would directly eliminate me for.
	So, I've got to be honest, I mean, Marcia and I do want a future together for ourselves, too.
	If we can do anything from behind the scenes to get them outed by other means, that could happen.
	But directly naming them, nobody appointed me, and even if they did, it doesn't matter.
	It's somebody who's willing to spread his arms out and have nails put in them.
	I'm just a human being, and I just want a life with my wife.
	So I'll do the best I can.
	Yes, sir.
	Thank you.
	What would be the best way to learn more about the country of trees?
	Is there a record somewhere that people have spoken?
	Not much.
	Not much.
	Marcia and I have been considering doing an entire DVD. Concerning the specific content.
	We just haven't gotten to it yet.
	It's a matter of time.
	We'll get a copy of this record.
	I'm sure I'll remember it.
	And we'll consider doing it.
	The next DVD I think she wants us to do is about the Q94. The next DVD I actually have asked them to do is a line-by-line examination of the Q94 document.
	science there have been criticisms of that document let me find something here briefly oh there's the first one I step for nice because I'm here I could have Moses poses again there we are most of the criticisms of the document have come from unnamed sources
	One person was allegedly the head of a medical school on the east coast of the United States and said, oh, this is just all gobbledygook.
	Well, to start with, if you sit in a chair as a professor, at least within the United States, I can't speak about other universities around the world, there is a great deal of pressure to keep your job, to conform the dogma.
	Initially, The individual with whom I had a conversation about the Q94 document, who is a PhD in neurophysiology, his name is, well, we'll just say Dr.
	Green, who is associated with people who are associated to a group called the aviary.
	Now remember what I said about the aviary.
	Here was from Monday the 2nd of February 2004, my birthday, a message that came via skywatcher22 at hotmail.com and that's Bill Hamilton.
	UFO researcher.
	Subject.
	One more comment and message for Dr.
	Dan.
	Today, I wish to offer Dr.
	Dan Bursch a happy 40th birthday.
	May you one day be recognized for your work.
	Dr.
	Green wrote, quote, It would be foolish for me to ask about a specific area of molecular biology in which I'm not as advanced as is he, Dan.
	His writings on profound biochemical and genetic postulates are beyond a single medical school course in pathophysiology, end quote.
	Yet, when I refused, right around the same time that I refused to buy into the garbage, the disinformation coming from the aviary, having to do with Serpo, right, it's right out of a Stargate movie.
	With SERPO, with what mysteriously happened at Gate 3, yet they couldn't find even our names in a search string prior to us going to Caltech to speak, and our names were on the Caltech website.
	For about a year.
	Well, you can still find the abstract there.
	They have such deep contacts, they claim, inside the United States government that they can't do a simple search on the Internet.
	Something wrong here.
	Now, all of a sudden, it's allegedly all gobbledygook.
	We won't buy in, so suddenly they changed the tone.
	So, what I've been asking ever since that day is, who is the person saying this?
	Because this person was allegedly a female doctor, head of a medical school, and member of the National Academy of Sciences.
	Oh boy, give me her name, because I'm going to marry her to her comments.
	Forever.
	I'm going to go line by line one way or the other through the Q94 document, and we will reference the comments in the Q94 document to published, peer-reviewed literature.
	So, let them keep talking.
	Yes, sir?
	You mentioned something just there.
	What do you think about that?
	Disinformation.
	It's total garbage.
	Garbage.
	Is this refuge?
	No.
	It's garbage.
	No, it's total garbage.
	There was no exchange program like that going on.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I know, I know.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Look, if you wrote a story about it, you obviously referenced the individuals who were claiming things.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	I wrote about it, too.
	The name SERPO is an old K-4, NATO K-4 code, that they appropriated, and the individuals involved in the aviary are well aware of that, at least one of them, because he was involved in the military.
	Well, a couple of them were.
	But it's an old K-4 code that was written backward, the word Opress for Operation Rehearsal.
	At the same time that we were coming up with the information that we were coming up with and told to tell the truth to the public, what they were doing is they were doing a rehearsal to see how much garbage they could purvey on you.
	Oh, sure.
	Yes, sir.
	What, Benny, is the connection between these councils and gestic and asylum and top government officials at all?
	If you go to the Project Tamalot We've placed our liberty on the line for this.
	And if anyone wishes to challenge those affidavits anywhere in the world, as long as we're appropriately transferred to those locations, we're happy to do this.
	In one of those affidavits, I named the names of the last twelve who were the seated last twelve.
	As a follow-on to that, as Scion took over, the number was reduced from twelve to nine individuals.
	Those individuals I'm in approximately the same position about naming those individuals as what I am concerning the five areopagites.
	Very dangerous.
	I can't ask him to go there because of safety and security reasons for us.
	Can I ask you one question?
	Yes sir.
	I saw you.
	Okay, since you mentioned Bill Hamilton.
	Bill Hamilton.
	I have a question about what you mentioned yesterday about reverse engineering for free energy purposes.
	I understand from the interview that Project Connell did with Gordon Novell, what's his name?
	He's supposedly doing the same, and since I heard his name on that also, which is just a little bit on how those tracks go together, as different groups trying to reverse engineer stuff are just connected, the same people are involved in different things.
	Everybody knows We're going to go ahead and get difficult here.
	Everyone knows, or may know, about the issues that I've had with one Mr.
	George Knapp of KLAS-TV8. Alright.
	He and I had an issue which occurred in 1990, and he's had some issues with me ever since.
	I love the guy.
	He's a good jovial investigative reporter, kind of.
	Just as an aside, there was a panel in 1990.
	He tried to pin Dan down about a statement about where he was working, which was at the time, very 51, and he was a big company man.
	He said, no, we're not going to talk about it.
	He tried to pin him down about it, and Dan was ready for him, and he embarrassed him.
	I was a company man at the time.
	I didn't even know that ETs existed.
	Not for sure.
	I had been abducted out of the park, but I really didn't know what happened way earlier in 1973.
	I only really learned about what happened many years later.
	And so I was thinking at the time that I was simply working for the United States government, the United States military.
	It was a defense issue, a biological defense issue is what I was thinking.
	So I was basically telling him, why are you opening your mouth with such a beautiful flag standing behind you?
	Meaning Old Glory was standing there at the end of our panel post, our flag.
	And it irritated the man.
	And I also, well, Dale Etheridge, who is the Clark County Planetary Society coordinator, I'm sorry, the planetarian coordinator for the Clark County area, did a stunt with me where he said, I'm going to tell the truth about you, Dan.
	This was right in front of George.
	As George said, I've got information on you, Dr.
	Crane, that you are a part of the saucer program.
	And then Dale Etheridge looked over at me and he says, and we'll get to Gordon here in a moment.
	A Gordon.
	I'm not going to say the Gordon, I'm saying a Gordon.
	You're going to hear a Gordon in a few moments.
	But actually hear him on our answering machine.
	Dale raised his bag up It was a preset joke.
	Raise this bag up out from underneath the table.
	And he said, I've got the goods here on you, Dr.
	Crane.
	And I said, okay, fine.
	Show the goods.
	Show the goods.
	And he pulled out an ALF doll.
	You know, the old Gordon Shumway, the little ALF creature, the alien life-form creature that liked to eat cats.
	And I said, there you are, George.
	I said, there's your extraterrestrial.
	Well, it was a very embarrassing thing for George.
	Because we were laughing.
	We were laughing at it at the time.
	Again, I had no idea.
	So I was a very company man.
	I was a lot more brash at that time.
	And I was a lot more willing to deal with him that way.
	So I never exactly forgave Dan.
	Right.
	Now the reason why you're being told this is George indicated that he never called my home.
	And I'm going to get to Gordon.
	But George indicated that he never called my home.
	Would you be so kind as to bring up the G.K. Yes, if you please.
	Oh, one says GK and one says GM. Go figure.
	Okay.
	The one on the right hand side, if you would be so kind.
	From 1991, ladies and gentlemen.
	That's fine.
	We can run it a couple of times.
	Just a short audio.
	Just like it's a case-to-case test.
	Is that right?
	Yep.
	He claims he never called me.
	He claims he never called me.
	He has some inside information, and I got a hold of my home phone number.
	Okay, thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Now, we are moving EBE, Extraterrestrial Biological Entity.
	Now, we're going to move forward into 2009.
	Would you be so kind as to do the GN, whomever that may be.
	Whomever that may be.
	The GN, the 2009 wave files.
	Here is coercion coming.
	Within the Winnet, we also have a volume slide.
	It was pretty much done.
	I would like to meet this goldstein in Stanford.
	Forget it.
	What's a credible eye?
	The team members.
	We still want to talk business.
	And we can't do business without talking business.
	It seems to me to be mandatory to be able to talk about what you can deliver and find out what you're offering and do the thing.
	He ran out of take time.
	He ran out of take time.
	He just kept talking and our answering machine eventually just cut off.
	Thank God.
	But what happened was we met with a certain Gordon.
	I'll just say a certain Gordon because we were dealing with issues here.
	And he wanted to Offer me to back-engineer the looking glass device as a time issue.
	And we want Argo for the carbon dioxide sequestration.
	We're not going to be playing with these time issues.
	We should have learned by now.
	I mean, we're capable when we get hit with a stick over, I have enough of learning.
	He also claims it doesn't for energy reasons.
	He claims a lot of things.
	He claims it's for energy, but what he wants We had agreed to meet a certain Gordon at Ellis Island Hotel Casino in Las Vegas for dinner.
	This was a follow-on to that night where we were supposed to have dinner.
	We walked up.
	He had a lovely lady with him, this certain Gordon did.
	And we began to have a conversation, and he said, so you two are getting married.
	Now, a certain divorce action was going on at the time, and we were doing everything we could to get that done with as quickly as possible because of the issues involving the children that we've mentioned.
	And I said, yes, next month we're going to be married.
	And he looked over at Marcia and he says, "Well, you've been concubining for a long time." Yeah, I'm concubining.
	And I looked at her and asked her what her intentions were for me, reference him at that moment, whether or not she wished me to...
	Act in certain ways toward a certain Gordon.
	And she indicated no.
	She told him that she had been deeply offended.
	And I stood there and continued to wait to see what she wanted to telegraph me to do.
	And he apologized.
	And then he came back and made another sexualized comment saying, well, you're more of a sergeant anyway.
	Meaning a control issue involving our sexuality.
	And at that point, she looked at me in her lady-like way and said, isn't it time for us to leave?
	And I said, yes, it is.
	So what we did, she then looked at Gordon and she said, have a good dinner, Gordon.
	And we turned around and walked away to his yelling, hey guys, guys!
	As a follow-on, the next day, that recording arrived on our home answering machine, and you can see the use of the name George Knapp is an issue of, well, I'm not going to talk anything about our faux pas.
	There was no faux pas.
	He acted like a...
	Dumbass.
	Now, there are separate teams.
	There are separate teams.
	There are separate teams attempting to back-engineer said devices.
	He, in fact, is involved with one of those teams and he doesn't have the full device specs.
	He wants to fly a disk.
	He does not have an inertial integrator and injection unit.
	I happen to know how that's put together.
	Remember what I told you about his memory and how when he looks at a schematic or he looks at a mechanical?
	He memorizes when he looks at it.
	This might be very irritating to some people.
	I actually have a publication here which is being used by his group.
	I don't think it's available via the internet, but it was an unfunded study done by, and I'm not going to name the individual, but if I happen to lay it here, if people see it or whatever, by a PhD out of Florida.
	And the study's name is Resolving the Psychosocial Paradoxes Associated with Gravity Nullification, Time Travel, and Propellant-less Energy by January 24, 2006.
	Very few individuals.
	It was basically a question-answer format, and then this certain Ph.D. We came up with certain conclusions.
	But it's the selection.
	It's the unbiased selection.
	When you do a real study like this, a sociological study, you have to have an unbiased selection of individuals.
	Well, there's a very strong leaning.
	There's a very strong leaning in this paper on quotes such as this.
	Most people commute to work.
	Done.
	And since larger industries would break down with the elimination of fossil fuel, people might be more inclined to remain in their communities and thus would be a breeding ground for fanaticism.
	Speak to Brian O'Leary about the reality involved with this.
	Because this is...
	In my personal view, a line of garbage.
	That's my personal view of this, because as I said, we have a birthright.
	This is associated with a certain Gordon's group.
	A certain Gordon is associated with the aviary, which does not have your best interests at heart, in my personal view.
	A certain Gordon is trying to back-engineer Or create...
	Power, power, power.
	He's trying to gather power and influence by creating a flight device based upon back-engineered specs.
	He doesn't have all the specs.
	He knows that somebody in this room has memorized specs, mechanical drives, everything that he wants.
	So he's been approaching, pleading with Dan.
	To help his project.
	Oh, he wrote an email.
	Oh, you gave up a lot of money and a lot of power!
	That's what he said to him.
	Well, I didn't...
	I come close to telling him to stuff his money and his power.
	Remember my question specifically about Bill Hamilton?
	That's his choice.
	I didn't say it.
	No, I'm just saying that's his choice.
	If he wishes to take other measures, if you're meaning maybe even toward us, because a certain Gordon has a certain bravado, that's his choice.
	we have team members to that we remember my question was initially about this specifically about the role of bill hamilton remember he was close with you about the office book bill hamilton is a is is a very intelligent big-hearted good man Okay, let me tell you about a certain Gordon's team.
	A certain Gordon's team doesn't exist.
	Okay?
	A certain Gordon's team is an email loop that contains about everybody on the face of the earth except for maybe the people in this room.
	I was on the email loop and I was never part of a certain Gordon's team.
	He kept saying that Dan was involved in the elite part of his management team.
	He's calling something like a Knights Templorum or something weird.
	I wrote to the guy and I said take You have given no consideration.
	There has been no agreement to associate with you.
	You simply asked us to listen to a proposal.
	We listened to your proposal.
	We said no.
	Enough!
	And he didn't get it.
	He still doesn't get it.
	Well, most of the emails have ceased now because, at least for a time, we put all of his emails and that phone call on the open internet so everybody could hear it.
	We were tired of it.
	Including all of this business of, you know, you've turned down all this power and this money and even an admission of what he called her.
	We just put it on the internet because I was frankly sick of getting harassed by this guy.
	We've finally ordered him to stop harassing him.
	Yes, sir.
	Is your experience with remote viewing?
	Myself, no.
	I did, in fact, use some remote viewing results for Lotus.
	Because on more than one occasion with Lotus, I got to the point where I did not know where we were going with it because it's such a strange phenomenon.
	But Deborah, in fact, my former wife, was the individual.
	Ladies, gentlemen, please, we've got to take a moment to change the tape.
	Is he still going to do this?
	Okay.
	We're back on?
	Yes.
	Alright.
	His name was, in fact, yes, I promise.
	I promise.
	His name, in fact, was in an email group.
	We're talking about Bill Hamilton.
	Was in an email loop with a certain Gordon.
	However, aside from...
	Well, I don't want to get into personal issues involving Bill.
	I'm just weighing something here.
	He indicated to me in an email that he didn't really expect much from him.
	All right, he's a good man.
	Bill Hamilton is a good man.
	Yes, sir?
	Thank you.
	I feel like I should turn off my talking device.
	And you have not asked any previous questions whatsoever during the forum.
	Yes, I was just wondering on the 3D question that who guarantees the 3D For the, let's say, the P54 or P52 or whatever, there's not too many records or whatever.
	If you have some 3D, there has to be some guarantee that 3D will be kept.
	So, what is that for them to, you know, Are you saying what's in it for them to keep the treaty?
	Not for it.
	So it wasn't guaranteed that we keep, you know, all sides of the treaty.
	Well, some of which were the handing over of heirlooms, children.
	Other issues involved detente.
	Between the signatories, as long as they thought was in existence, a hot war would not break out.
	There have been a few issues about people firing at people, including US authorities firing at certain craft.
	And you may have seen certain STS videos of projectiles being fired up through the atmosphere at craft.
	Those were some hot war provocations.
	There was a specific one that I remember seeing where there was actually a violation and they were not supposed to have a number of craft in our atmosphere.
	They came in with an extra craft and a shot was fired at them.
	A couple shots, I believe.
	And there's a right angle turn on a craft and you can see it exiting off over the limb of the earth.
	Sir?
	I understand you're a microbiologist.
	Yes, sir.
	And during the recovery, have you done any research on cancer?
	We have to stop between the next minutes.
	Could you hand us to the gentleman, please?
	Ladies and gentlemen, I've just been advised that because of the requirements of the hotel in the room, we have...
	Do you want to hear the table?
	Of you?
	Okay, this is going to be Zurich 2009.
	Okay.
	That would be...
	Go ahead and...
	Go ahead and run with a photograph of Marcia.
	Let's try it.
	16.
	That's it.
	16.
	If you want to hear her that morning.
	It's an audio.
	It's an audio tape of the morning of March 28, 2009, while we were addressing the individuals that we had as guests in Las Vegas, Nevada.
	The morning and the moment that the TT event was supposed to have occurred.
	We began that simple Unity Flyer program while telling what was being produced.
	We did this so we would meet or exceed that pre-set looking glass score at the rate now displayed on the screen.
	We accomplished the first score by September 2006, and given the expected rate of information spread, the last number above right, by the end of 2008.
	We actually surpassed that number by the middle of 2008 due to the other events that drew attention to Dad and myself.
	That's when the fire remains the embedded and reptile of our means.
	Tell the world that we, as the human species, have reached that moment of indecision, that moment of bifurcation, the moment of collective truth, the time of the cycles crossed.
	Tell the world that now is the time, and that is the moment, when we must focus upon the unity of our species, and of all the cultural life, here and beyond the earth.
	We shall survive this time beside this cross, the time of the predicted catastrophe of Volcanoe, and when Mary has chosen to refuse the path that would lead us to schism.
	We have refused to perish through burdenness.
	We are destined as children of the stars.
	That was shut up.
	You heard that little wisp at the end.
	That was the team and those assembled, the good guys.
	Whistling and stomping and all of that, but we've tried to cut most of the team's voices off for their own lives and most of them are retired now.
	That gives you an idea.
	Thank you.
	Yes, ma'am.
	I have two questions.
	The first one is the Omicron Treaty was shared in 2009.
	So I'm just wondering if that's happened, or if it's still rescheduled.
	If it's happened, what was the outcome?
	It has not happened.
	There were no shows.
	They didn't show up for it.
	And so your question is, I was wondering if there are any other treaties or communications in place with other forms of life apart from the people who are trying to succeed.
	None of my knowledge, Rand.
	Thank you.
	This is just one question.
	This idea that I have, I really can refer to it, could it be that you're a little bit Because the thing is actually, I mean, you're talking to J-Rods, as far as what I know, what is the danger from the future are the grapes.
	I've been working with the grapes, they're pretty tough stuff.
	But the real danger are the Zetars, the Anunnaki, Well, I can speak to the issue of Anunnaki being a Sumerian Influence or a cultural archetype or gods of their belief system.
	I can speak to the reptilian issue because while being trained by a P45 J-Rod, they appear due to their neuropathy, their stance, their cocaine-like disease stance, to be very lurching and extremely reptilian in appearance.
	Aside from that, I cannot account For any of the other accounts concerning alleged grays of non-human lineage.
	I don't have that information and I cannot account for that.
	After 20 years of working with the folks that were under affidavit signed having worked with, It was not in our standard operating procedures or protocols.
	It was never spoke about.
	Save and no ill intent or umbrage to be taken.
	Save, I heard a lot of the senior operators snickering about the folklore that was injected into the ufological communities worldwide.
	And that doesn't mean that it's not happening.
	I don't know everything.
	All I know is what I've experienced and what I've learned during my 45 years.
	It's part of this disinformation about, it's part of the story also that the Zetas are cooperating with the U.S. Army.
	Is that part of disinformation?
	Is that true?
	Well, I wouldn't call them Zetas because they've never called themselves that.
	The ones to which I'm aware, anyway.
	But I'm not aware that they call themselves that.
	It's like, you know, I met an individual and I don't want to apply a label to that individual that he would not want to apply to himself.
	Like, I wouldn't want a label applied to me.
	The cooperation was extensive.
	It has been extensive with more than one branch of the United States and what I would call foreign militaries, militaries from other nation states.
	Extensive cooperation.
	Yes, sir.
	One minute.
	Ladies and gentlemen, thank you.
	I just wanted to ask you if you can confirm some images that were around on the internet that the P52 tier looked like.
	There are no, to my understanding, actual images of an extraterrestrial placed on the internet.
	None.
	You mean this is all disinformation?
	I don't know what the intent is.
	For instance, if somebody looks at a picture, and they truly believe that that's what they saw, or they draw it, then that's what they believe that they saw, and I'm not going to impeach that for any reason.
	However, photographs, to our knowledge, videos of them, none.
	None have None.
	And I would give my canine eye teeth for one.
	Do they exist?
	Well, the photos exist, yes.
	It's operated on.
	What about that one?
	What?
	The operation autopsy.
	Oh, the alien autopsy business.
	I looked at that film very closely.
	That appears to be a reverse-engineered autopsy of a dead human being.
	Really?
	Appears.
	In other words, my best guess is that a cadaver was laying in the prone form on her tummy, had her back opened up,
	items placed inside, including phony organs, etc., None of these individuals, none of them who walked in with an alleged alien would have been dressed as you saw dressed.
	None of them.
	It was totally hokey to me.
	That's the best word I could use.
	It just looked hokey.
	And it frankly upset me a great deal because the polydactylist female, I believe there's more than five fingers.
	A normal human genetic condition, polydactyly, as well as syndactyly.
	Just one thing, there was an autopsy about being very short, like 50 centimeters, and about this dressing, the Russians with autopsy too, and I think they don't dress like, you know, you're saying, in the fancy suit or expensive suit.
	Bill Ewhouse, Bill Ewhouse correctly testified to a P-45 J-Rod at the Los Alamos National Laboratory with whom he worked for the use of diagnostic equipment for the propulsion and avionics systems.
	I saw the benefit given to S-4 of what he built and in fact in our one DVD his son Will and myself talk about what Bill developed with the particular J-Rod, the P-45 J-Rod.
	That P-45 J-Rod was on board At the same time as Kaela, the P-52 that I met, that crashed in 1953.
	We're running out of time?
	At the end.
	I realize there were citizens to speak about things religious, but was Christ a time traveler?
	We're all time travelers.
	Now, wasn't that good enough?
	Thank you.

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