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March 16, 2009 - Project Camelot
02:25:15
Project Camelot Live at Vilcabamba
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Anyway, it's funny about technical stuff, isn't it?
I think definitely the mechanistic age is still around, and someday we'll have holographic videoing from another dimension, and then we won't have all these wires and stuff.
Some of you that are younger, remember these times.
Remember all of the preparation, all the video cameras and stuff like that.
And then just imagine what it might be like in a better world, a world with free energy, a world with holograms, a world of consciousness, a world of combined positive intention, a world of things working, actually working.
What I'd like to do now is, we're doing a segue into Project Camelot, and I hadn't heard much about Project Camelot.
I've known Steve Greer for a long, long, long time.
I was one of the people that got And then along come these people that call themselves Project Catalog.
And I said, hmm, I wonder what that's all about.
And little by little I would start to cruise through their website and find out that what they're doing needs to be done.
There's a very strong need for this, which is to interview in a very friendly way, going way beyond...
What, let's say, George Nury does, or Art Bell, on Coast to Coast.
Because these folks really go into depth.
They do their homework.
That's very important.
They actually read the books of the people that they're interviewing.
And so there's this stable of visionaries, mostly elders, people that could die any time.
Was there some...
No.
It's gone now.
It's gone now.
Great.
So, what these people are doing, I'm beginning to appreciate slowly, more and more, and I had a really nice talk with Bill this morning, and Bill Ryan from England, who has a very eclectic background, and so does Kerry.
And so they're doing this project and they threw themselves into it as volunteers at first.
That's always a sign that these people are really dedicated because people that seek funding right away before they actually do it, sometimes they have a silver spoon in their mouth and they don't really get a whole lot done.
These guys have really, really gotten a lot done.
And so when Bill and I were talking this morning, it suddenly occurred to me that not only...
Have they been gathering information and doing it using video equipment and so forth, but they've been able to respect the wishes of those whom they have interviewed regarding what's on the record and what's off the record.
And that it doesn't necessarily have to fit within a sound bite.
And so we have now for the next three hours, three and a half hours during this conference, you're going to hear from them.
And you're going to hear some of the sharings and stories.
And I'm just so glad that you decided to come, Carrie and Bill and Kay.
And you're on.
Bill Ryan, Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot.
Just a moment here, we're going to get ourselves wired up to sound.
Oh, okay, yeah, we have to grab them.
Thank you very much.
Okay, so we're both on short leashes here.
Which is not our accustomed style.
Especially not me, I'm a little too wild to leech, but I didn't really...
Okay, so, you want to start because you're always very good at the overview type...
Do I want to start?
Okay.
We have a lot of stories to tell, by the way.
Some of which we haven't really told before.
Either because they're very funny or they're against us.
And we've actually got to the point here where we're very happy to tell a lot of stories against us.
One of the ones that I really like, I really love it, is...
We had an email from somebody a few months ago.
He said, you know what?
I... I was sure that you guys must have been a CIA operation.
You must have been sponsored by those guns.
But then I realized, actually, that your videos were so amateurish that you couldn't possibly...
And I take offense at that.
That's his story.
My first encounter with Kerry Cassidy was when I was speaking.
For my own particular sins, at the Lofton UFO Conference, at the end of February in 2006, because I got tangled up in a really weird story that I'm happy to say a few words about, but not more than a few, when I was basically talking about a disclosure program that I had got myself inadvertently wrapped up with.
And I was being interviewed by several people.
The first time I'd been ever interviewed by anybody.
And...
It's like at 5 o'clock in the afternoon I was being interviewed by some guy and he brought his lights in and his cameras and he had a camera here and a big tripod and a camera there and he had all these microphones and he spent about 15 minutes setting it all up and this was for some kind of TV deal and I never even made note of what it was or who it was or something and that was at 5 o'clock and then at 6 o'clock I was with Kerry and Kerry came in with this tiny little camera And
then Kerry started talking to me.
And that was it.
And what I want to say about that is that this is the spirit in which Camelot started.
It started in the way that we would both encourage anybody else to start anything, which is that you pick up whatever it is you happen to have, even if it's just your own courage in your hands and nothing else, and start And what's really important is the vision that you hold.
And I want to acknowledge Kerry here, because really, inasmuch as anything has a bit of a lineage, and you can go back and back and back, and where do you really start?
But Kerry started the vision that was Camelot because of her own history with Hollywood way back prior to October 2005, when she got frustrated with the whole business and said, You know what?
I'm just going to do my own thing.
Thank you.
Well, actually, so let's back up because as much as I like to take credit for things, I have to say that Camelot started with Camelot, the real Camelot, in the early days.
And we were both very inspired by that.
And as it happened, I did interview him at Laughlin.
Actually, initially I thought, he represented the Serpo Project.
You know, how interesting can that be?
He's not actually the whistleblower.
He's not actually the one telling the story.
So I wasn't really excited to interview him.
And when I first went up to interview him, he kind of hemmed and hawed and said, well, maybe I'll time later tonight, and then he said he wouldn't, then he said he would.
But initially he had, on email, agreed to be interviewed.
So the interview did happen, and I was very impressed because he was very balanced.
Although he was a spokesperson for the Serpo project, in a sense, because he built the website, not because he had anything to do with it in particular.
And it was an alien exchange program that our government was involved in back in the early 60s, supposedly, by the way.
And it's online in case you want to investigate further.
But basically, he was very balanced in the way he handled the questions.
And I threw some real left jabs, whatever you want to call it, to kind of see how riled he would get and to get to the root of the story, which is kind of my way.
In case you've watched the videos.
And he handled it very well.
He actually had a calm sense of humor about it.
He didn't get defensive.
And this counted for a lot with me.
And eventually we went to dinner.
We started talking, comparing notes.
We'd both been researching incredible amounts of material, conspiracies, you name it, UFOs, metaphysics, spiritual disciplines, all our lives up until that point.
So we both had quite a backlog, and it ended up that we had quite a bit in common.
Then I went on a trip to Egypt.
My mother had passed away and left me a small inheritance, which eventually financed Camelot for almost two years.
I went to Egypt with, actually, Jordan Maxwell and William Henry.
That's where I interviewed Jordan very briefly.
That was still Camelot.
I hadn't begun.
And on the way back from Egypt, I was in touch with Bill.
We kept in touch over the emails.
And we arranged that I would come to England to visit him.
And so I did.
And we ended up going to Stonehenge, to a lot of power places in England.
And we went to Tis Hagel, one of the Supposed homes of King Arthur.
And when we went to Tintagel, I don't know if you've ever been there, it's a really stunning, absolutely stunning place on the coast.
And has a lot of mystical and interesting power around it.
And we were really struck by it.
And we started talking about what could we do Here we both had these incredible backgrounds, and Bill is a webmaster, myself is a filmmaker, we were both writers, we both had spiritual backgrounds.
And we said, what can we do to absolutely change the paradigm that was going on, and actually maybe force disclosure?
So, right then and there we created Camelot, and both of us were very inspired by the King Arthur Roundtable concept.
Where there were no leaders and followers per se, but that in the spirit of Arthur, you know, everyone came to the table, it was all balanced, there were no hierarchies, and worked together for what could be a better vision of the future.
And I believe that that was the initial King Arthur vision, and I do believe that Both of us lived back in those times.
And both of us were tapping into that when we connected.
And that hasn't changed.
So it's very remarkable that Mayer has these lovely Arthur-like visions and the sword and all of that going on.
And it was also a synchronicity that John F. Kennedy and sort of a vision of a better future...
It was at least implied, if not carried out, you know, when he was president, was also sort of an echo, if you will, out there.
And we decided to call it Project Camelot because project being sort of the forerunning name that most deep black projects contain.
I worked for a short time at JPL for NASA and helping in media and...
I was writing a screenplay called Project Moon Best.
I worked in Hollywood for like 20 years.
And I was trying to pitch projects, sci-fi projects, to open minds and change the paradigm.
And getting absolutely nowhere.
And that's why I picked up a home, you know, non-professional camcorder and just said, screw it, I'm going to make a documentary and I'm going to go interview these people at UFO conferences because they've got something to say.
And I want the world to hear it.
So that whole thing just took off, and then we also, by synchronicity, Bill was in touch with Mr.
X. Yeah.
Just to say a little bit about that envisioning and sort of initial actualization, the planting of the seeds of this camelot when we were at Tintagin in Cornwall.
Some of you may have had the same experience.
It was one of those things, it didn't take The whole thing was completely visualized and agreed with a spontaneous, obvious synergy between us.
Probably about two minutes for that.
We just spelled out between us the vision in the very broadest general terms.
And within literally, I think within one or two or three minutes, we had agreed that this is what we were going to do.
There wasn't the slightest bit of doubt.
Then we would have thought all about the yes buts and the hang on the minutes and how are we going to finance this and spend more time and kill us and all this kind of stuff.
And this never even crossed our mind, it just sounded like fun.
And actually that spirit of fun and what the heck, let's do it, has actually been what's behind this whole thing in the last two and a half years.
I mean, but at that time, we didn't envisage anything that was this large.
We couldn't possibly have imagined that here we were in Bilkabamba, almost a few feet away from somebody who is a widely respected throughout the world as a visionary and a physicist and an astronaut and in a different timeline might have ended up as being the first And so forth.
And, I mean, it's become so big.
The whole thing has just evolved in front of us like we're on oiled wheels with someone else doing the steering and someone else doing the powering.
And we'll talk about this a little bit more as we have the opportunity during the day that we take very little credit for anything that's happened here.
In retrospect, you can look back and we can see that we make a great show.
I mean, it's like we've got the...
We've got Mulder and Scully, we've got two personality types, we've got the man and the woman, the American and the Brit, we've got the sceptic and the, well, the slightly more sceptic and the slightly more esoteric.
And we make quite a good stand-up team, you know.
But we never thought...
I do think you should be complimenting us.
That's really embarrassing.
Okay.
So, but I have to say that also, I just, I know people are going to ask this, and people have been asking us for ages.
Why do we have the cheetah?
And the reason is because what happened was we ended up going to Africa because Bill was born in Africa and he was able to take me on safari.
And one of the reasons I came to visit Bill in England initially was because I knew that he knew about Africa.
And I am an avid fan of Africa, I guess you might say, and of Egypt.
And so we set out on a safari very early on in our travels.
As kind of a break that we would take.
And so one of the times we were out there, I was able to shoot a cheetah, a real life cheetah that was, you know, a young cheetah and beautiful, beautiful animal.
And we spent hours videotaping him.
And then, when we were creating a logo for Camelot, I was actually, because I came from Hollywood, it was my kind of smart-ass nod, if you will, to MGM, the MGM lion, which is very, very famous, I think, as a symbol of Hollywood, and, you know, at the beginning of motion pictures.
And, of course, I always wanted to make movies, So I thought putting that as our logo at the beginning of our videos was kind of a statement.
Also the concentration on the eye, if you've seen our logo.
I don't have my t-shirt on, but our logo.
And the eye being that we're watching you just as you're watching us.
Kind of a nod to the government in that respect.
So that's why we have the cheetah logo.
And cheetahs are faster, and the internet was our...
and therefore we're lighter faster than the MGM logo.
You do are.
Okay.
All right.
So when we actually started Camelot, we actually had something to do.
It wasn't just a blank sheet of paper.
Brian just now has mentioned the Disclosure Project.
And we do not know Stephen Greer.
We've never met him.
We've never corresponded with him.
We've never run across him in any of the conferences or on any of our travels.
We would love to do that.
We don't know how he regards us.
We don't even know if he knows about us.
But like many of you, probably, I personally was inspired by the And
I remember this vividly, because I was driving in Scotland at the time, very late at night, at about 2 o'clock in the morning, and this thing was being reported live on the radio.
And I was so fascinated by what was happening, I could barely believe it.
I stopped the car and I listened to it at that time.
Sorry.
Actually, this is so typical.
We're having some anomalous sound effects in the background, and they've cut out now, so maybe you need to hold the mic a certain way a bit.
Maybe hold it up there.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thanks.
And as many of you probably have done, I found myself asking, well, what happened to the Disclosure Project?
What happened to the videos that they promised to release?
What happened as an outcome of what seemed to be such a huge promise that was made publicly back in 2001?
Now, I don't intend to even try and answer that question.
and there's absolutely no implied criticism.
But to use the jargon of one of my careers prior to Camelot, which is actually working in business and consultancy, there seems to be a gap in the market.
Now, I would actually say, as one of my, using the jargon from another one of my careers, as a team building specialist and team building consultant, there's actually room for more people in this team.
And we need as many people as possible putting their shoulders to the wheel to get this information out.
And so I thought, well, you know, we're not trying to supplant the guy, we're not trying to interfere with his intentions, but actually there are people out there waiting for information.
So, Kerry has a little camera, which I could probably put in my trouser pocket here, and so let's go.
And in my experience with the Serpo project, and let me give a nod to that, because some of you may not know about it, some of you may have read about it, some of you may have read criticism about it.
It's all very weird.
It involves a purported claimed US alien exchange program that happened back in the 60s.
Because just like you guys here, I was in the metaphorical audience when attached to an email newsgroup, where this material about this US alien exchange program was being released from an anonymous source.
And somebody in that newsgroup said, you know what, this is interesting information here, we need to archive this on a website.
And I was dumb enough to say, hey, I can do that.
I've got time on my hands.
And so I became the webmaster for this release of information that was coming from sources within the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency.
This is a very, very long story, which we don't involve, but there was something behind that.
I got tangled up with a whole lot of people from the intelligence community.
There was interference from behind the black curtain.
We ended up having an encounter with one of the retired reserve astronauts who didn't go on the program.
We've got a fascinating story about that.
We actually met these people.
It's all very real.
It did happen.
It certainly didn't happen like it was said on the website, but there was something going on.
And just leaping ahead to what we'll be talking about later on this afternoon, we have a very interesting whistleblower who we are calling Jake Simpsons.
Some of you may have caught up with this testimony, which we reported on just in the last 48 hours.
And this was such an inconsequential remark that I didn't even include it in the report.
I forgot about it.
We asked him over one of the many cups of tea and coffee that we had together.
I said, hey, you know, that exchange program thing, did that really happen?
He just said, of course it did.
He said, there are many of them.
Wow.
Which has always been my standpoint.
It's like once you've got...
If you assume the existence of visitors, and you assume the establishment of communication, then the next thing to do is that we go up to that place, you know, with their help.
And of course this has happened.
We can't prove it, but that was the reality of the Serpo story.
And I became involved as a webmaster, of course, and I was the only available contact, and that's why Kerry interviewed me, because Kerry couldn't interview the real guys who were behind the scenes in the Pentagon, who were releasing this information.
What would be received, what would happen, and so on and so forth.
The story got trashed, but we think it got trashed from the inside.
There's other people from the inside.
There's a lot of black and white, black hat, white hat games going on behind the scenes.
Push and pulleys about what's going to be released, what's not going to be released.
They sabotage each other and disinform each other just as much as they do us.
Which is really very interesting.
And it's true.
How do you still shuffle?
S-C-R-F. That was the supposed name of the planet, which is also probably not true.
Later on, we got into a conversation with another whistleblower, a very important guy in the history of Camelot, somebody who we know very, very well, who we have given the pseudonym Henry Deacon to, which is a nod to one of the characters in the TV series Eureka.
And Henry, one of the very, very first things that Henry said to us, as a criticism of the SOPO project, where apparently a bunch of 12 American astronauts took nine months to visit a planet on Zeta Reticuli 2, Henry just said, it wouldn't have taken nine months.
And then he started to talk to us about the beings that lived on the second and the third and the fifth, planned it out for Centauri, and so on and so forth.
And...
Okay, but let's not get out of order.
Let's not get out of order.
Thank you.
While I was doing this, I had people writing to me.
And I had people writing to me because in my naivety, I had presented myself as a kind of honest everyman who was just doing what I could do to help, and I wasn't calling myself any alias, and I even put a picture of myself up there so they could see that I was real.
And I just said, look, I don't know what's going on here.
I try to be as intellectually honest as possible, which is the kind of thing that Kerry was talking about in the little interview that I did with her the last of her 10 minutes.
But people started to write to me, saying, you know what, I've got this incredible story, and you sound like the kind of guy you might believe what I have to say, and I haven't told anybody about this.
And I had a lot of interesting messages from people, many of which I haven't ever published, because they just don't go anywhere.
Just kind of weird, anomalous encounters, peculiar experiences, funny stories to do with people's involvement in the black ops.
And there are many of those.
You have to move your hand up, I think.
One of these was somebody who said, I had an interesting assignment, he said, when I was a young man working for an aerospace company in Southern California, I was a young man, And he said that he was working as a graphic designer for an aerospace company that was contracted with the US government and he was asked if he would like to volunteer for a special assignment.
And he said, sure.
What is it?
And after he'd signed his NDA, his non-disclosure agreement, and given a secret, An assignment that he had never told anybody about for the 20 years following that assignment,
except for his wife, was that he had what, for most of the people in this room, would be a dream job, and that for eight hours a day, for six months, five days a week, he started his work in a sealed vault with a guard outside the door,
and then he would be given a mailbag, a big mailbag, And then we'd leave, we'd close the door, and then his job was to sort out an archive and label what was in the mailbag.
And what was in the mailbag was UFO documents, films, artifacts, and videos.
Between 1947 and the early 1980s when he did this.
And that was his job for six months.
And he just said, he just felt like this was, you know, he was just like a kid in a candy store.
He couldn't believe that he was being asked to do this job, and that's what he did.
And he had so much stuff passed through his hands, he never told anyone at all.
A lot of the stuff was sealed, but he read everything he could.
And he wrote to me and said, this is my experience.
And so, and I checked him out and I slowly drew information out of him very, very gradually.
and Because I can kind of tell...
I mean, we can kind of tell now somebody who's a real whistleblower.
A real whistleblower isn't somebody who says, hey, I've got this incredible story to tell, let me tell you all about it.
A real whistleblower is somebody who writes to you with two lines of enigmatic information to see whether you're smart enough to figure out who they are.
That's actually how they work.
And we have missed one or two of those.
We know we've missed them because they wrote to us again and we didn't even notice the first email.
Because you get a little one-liner saying, hey, I'd like to talk to you guys, I've got something interesting to tell you.
And it's like, okay, what does that mean?
Now we pay attention to emails like that.
So, this guy was waiting in the wings for Camelot, as it were, and he became pretty much our first Okay, so what happened was he didn't want to go on camera.
So that was the beginning.
But we ended up meeting him, meeting his wife, spending time with them.
He was a really stellar individual.
And we determined to interview him, but we figured out that he wanted his voice disguised, then he wanted his back to the camera.
Henry Deacon later, Henry Deacon would not even go on camera or have his voice recorded.
In the case of Mr.
X, we did do the video, and if you've been to our site, you've obviously seen it, hopefully.
It was pretty much our first video together, although prior to that I had interviewed, because I not only interviewed Bill, I was interviewing Rich Dolan, Stephen Bassett, Jim Mars, John Hamilton.
And Bill Hamilton as part of my UFO documentary that I was putting together.
And Bill Hamilton is a witness who is absolutely fascinating.
He's one of the early...
We did put him on our Camelot interviews.
And he's got numerous stories to tell.
And if you're familiar with the field, you know that he's a very well-respected researcher who goes back a long way.
And I would encourage you, if you haven't seen his interview, that you really ought to.
He's got some stories about calling in UFO craft before Stephen Grier ever thought of it.
And also encounters with, I guess you might say, men in black who came to visit him and so on.
And he's met some of the most amazing characters What happened to Mr.
X? Mr.
X, unfortunately, recently, very recently, has died.
He died unexpectedly.
We don't know the cause.
We were told, we were called by his wife.
She was in a state.
By the way, one of the things that Mr.
X did was he did a recent audio interview.
He was beginning to get braver.
And we were just speaking at the crash retrieval conference in Vegas about a month ago.
And for that conference, he did a short audio interview with me.
Or both of us, but it's my voice you hear on the audio.
And...
He was using his own voice.
He was coming out, slowly but surely, a little bit more.
He kept his wife and his family separate from this.
She is a lovely person.
She's quite aware, spiritually, and yet he felt great resistance from her.
She has a lot of fear.
And so he never quite...
Involved her in some of the things he was doing online, sharing stories with people, becoming braver as time went on.
At any rate, he died of a sudden heart attack.
All of a sudden, in the middle of the night, it was around Christmas, right before Christmas, I think, he was supposed to go shopping.
He developed a headache.
He then took a blast for him.
He went shopping anyway.
At 3 o'clock in the morning he woke up.
He felt very unwell.
She took him to the hospital.
By 1245 the following day he had passed on.
We don't know if it was a targeted hit.
We have not wanted to upset his wife by probing overtly into the matter.
However, we do have some suspicions.
In this regard, as the powers that be are very good at this sort of thing.
Unbeknownst to most people, he was thinking of going on coast.
And no one knows this, except us and a few maybe close friends.
Obviously, we don't know if this had an effect.
We don't know if his intention riled somebody.
From our perspective and from his, we felt that the fact that he'd been involved in an aerospace company over 20 years ago looking at documents.
It was really small potatoes.
That he would not be a target.
That it was old stuff and that who could back it up because he had no evidence to present.
So we always felt that he was sort of under the wire as far as being a target.
Obviously we live on.
He's around.
He's going to communicate I'm sure with With us as a group, because we all kind of incarnate as groups, as many of you may know.
So, you know, each of us has a mission, and he certainly fulfilled his.
He was a wonderful, loving soul, and we want to pay tribute to him here at this conference by stating just that.
So, that's it.
Now, one thing I want to say here is for anyone who's not been to our website, I'm assuming most people have, but You just never know.
Our mission is that we wanted to connect with truth-tellers and whistleblowers and researchers in the field just across the board.
Anything to do with the old paradigm and converting it to the new paradigm that would have to do with things like free energy.
Almost nothing is off base for us.
We'll go into the health field, With health professionals, with UFO researchers, with conspiracies, with government, we've interviewed people who have worked in black projects, obviously, and we are also interviewing people that are channeling.
Certainly George is channeling.
Channeling is a big aspect of the witnesses that we've interviewed.
It's something that hasn't been talked about much, but it's something we're going into more in the future.
It's an important aspect.
There's remote viewing.
So we really cover a huge gamut.
Yeah.
We've been called the 7-Eleven of the internet conspiracy movement in the sense that we have become a one-stop shop where you can actually go and you can find out everything you need to find out or want to find out without actually having to go anywhere else.
Thank you.
And just as a moment of levity, this might even apply to some of you here.
We've had emails blaming us for a number of lost weekends that people have experienced when they got drawn so deeply into our stuff that they couldn't get out of it.
And...
It's become huge.
We've got 150 hours of videos there, approximately.
Everything is being transcribed, some of it is being put into other languages, we've got audio versions, we've done reports of our own, and there's a whole bunch of stuff that we haven't even talked about yet.
And so, it's really going arms and legs.
But we do get people writing to us.
And please forgive this apparent self-promotion, but it is really for the benefit of anyone here who is now coming up to speed with what it is that we're talking about here, that we think, and we have been told, that we do have paradigm-changing information and we have been told, that we do have paradigm-changing information on our As I was saying earlier, this was never something that we deliberately set out to do, but it seems to have come that way, exactly for the reasons that Kerry just stated,
that we are reporting information from so many different sources that paradoxically and really interestingly, that we are reporting information from so many different sources that paradoxically and really interestingly, only the Black Ops guys In other words, what has got consciousness to do with energy, to do with multidimensional travel, to do with ET contact, to do with possible health benefits that have been withheld from us?
All of this stuff is connected, and the powers that be know this.
The real thing that stitches everything we've done together is that what we're trying to do is we're trying to set you free, as it were, with the truth that has been withheld from you.
And the reason why this truth has been withheld from you is that there are people there who do not want you to be free.
That's the other side of the coin.
And so we're trying to reverse this.
And I really love Brian's bumper sticker reference yesterday morning.
He said, the truth will set you free, but first of all, it'll piss you off.
I'd actually make an even bigger bumper sticker in We
hear from people who say, you know what?
I was freaked out last week, but now I've read a lot more of your stuff, and now I'm cool.
So what can I do about it?
And this is, of course, the next thing that we're going to talk about, we're going to go on to talk about later on this afternoon, is what can we do?
And this was brought out very well, I think, in the dialogue that we had yesterday with George Green.
It's like, okay, now I'm freaked out.
What do I do now about it?
Is it all about saving myself?
What do we do now?
What do we do with this information?
And this is something that we want to talk about a little later on, because we are very solution-oriented.
We're not trying to freak people out, but the truth is where you have to start.
If you're lost in the jungle, or even if you're lost in the streets in New York, and you want to get somewhere else, you have to know where you are in order to start beginning that journey.
You have to know where you are.
Even if you don't like finding out where you are, It's like, you know what, the truth is that I'm here.
That applies metaphorically.
If any of you have come across difficult situations that you've suddenly encountered in relationships or in your business or with your family or anywhere else in life, first of all you tell the truth, then you say, okay, this is it.
Now, what do I do?
See, it starts from there.
Right, so we basically are willing to tell you the truth about what's really going on, and we have found that people have different tolerances.
And we do understand this.
We have also been labeled negative and this and that, because we do tell the truth.
What has been going on around us, and it was depicted best, I think, in the Matrix movie, Is that everyone is in a matrix.
Most people don't want to wake up from the matrix.
We're all about waking people up.
So that's kind of our mission.
Once you get awakened, absolutely, you want to do something about it.
And we are big proponents of encouraging people to do that on a consciousness level, as well as on a practical level.
And we created a new website It's called Project Avalon, projectavalon.net for those of you who haven't been there, that has a forum where people are connecting, even as we speak, creating safe places to go to as a result of some of the things they've learned, because that's their choice.
On the other hand, some are just building communities right where they live now.
They're just making connections, and that was our intention, that they would do that all around the world, and it's very, very inspiring that it's actually happening On top of that, Project Avalon does contain all kinds of information.
We are cataloging and gathering as I speak.
Things about how to build a safe house, where to go in the world, what's safe, comparing notes on that, different soil conservation, water, you name it.
So this is just a very quick reminder to tell you that we have been making plans and helping others to start to make plans to create something new in the wake of what is now becoming a destruction of the old paradigm.
And therefore, we want to encourage you and let you know that everything that happens here at this conference, any skill sets, any information that you want to share...
You can take it to our forum number one and also submit it just as research material if you're experts in certain areas.
We're going to make all of that available there and we can certainly set up a section on Vilcabamba in particular if that's what we wanted.
So from here we can actually dig deeper into our witnesses but I want to find out where we are in time.
What time is it?
We're quarter to twelve.
Oh yeah, you have about fifteen, twenty minutes, yeah.
How are we on the cover?
Okay, so let's do that over.
We're going to do now an overview of what we call a big picture.
And this is the other thing that we want to say, is that each witness has a piece of the puzzle.
And we, unlike some people that do interviews, and there are other sites out there, we're not just gathering random interviews about this subject matter and piling them all into a big bundle.
We actually are on, if you will, a trail on a mystery.
And we are collecting specific testimony that leads to a certain place.
And that's with an intention, to reveal the entire big picture in one place.
And this is actually where the power resides, is not in knowing just a piece of the puzzle, but knowing the whole big picture.
And I have to say that the journey isn't over.
That we feel that we've covered a great deal of the big picture.
Some of it may be very superficially.
The deeper we could go, the happier we'd be.
But we have been stopped at different intervals, and we're going to talk about that.
And we've also had our own anomalous occurrences.
I won't call them overt threats.
That hasn't happened yet.
Exactly.
But we will describe that as well.
And we're going to have a huge question and answer section as well for all of this.
And I do want to say that one of our witnesses is here, besides George Green, who was here yesterday, that we've interviewed.
And her name is, as all of you will know, is Miriam Delicato.
And we're very, very pleased that she was able to come.
And we want to do special thanks, why not now, to Kay Shepard and Carrie Shepard Thank you for making this possible.
Kay is a real mover and shaker, and if it wasn't for Kay, we would not be here today because we have actually run out of funds for financing Camelot, which is all self-financed up to now, except for some donations for the past year.
So it's because of Kay that we're here, and we want to give her a great nod of thanks.
And so now what we like to do is have Bill is the best at facts and figures.
He's the physics major.
He's the one who can do this the best.
So he will give you an overview of kind of the big picture, and then we'll do lunch, and after that we'll drill down deeper.
Yeah.
I'm the math and the physics guy.
And...
One of the first experiences I had with Kerry was when we had dinner together after our interview in Laughlin.
And Kerry was kind enough to pick up the tab for that dinner.
It was a wonderful Mexican dinner.
And when she was given the bill, the check at the end of it, I saw her with furrowed brow trying to figure this out.
And she was just about to give this guy a $200 tip on her credit card.
And I said, wait a minute.
You've got a couple of extra zeros on there.
And since then, we've had a running joke about, Kerry doesn't do zeros.
It's like, you know, is Quito 100 miles, 1,000 miles?
You don't know.
And that's okay, because I can handle that.
There's a very funny story in Nairobi, Kenya, where we were when we went off just before we were filming the cheetah.
And we needed a cup of coffee.
Do you mind if I told the story?
No, that's fine.
We needed a cup of coffee.
And this was the afternoon before we were about to go to Nairobi airport to get the plane.
And I said, hey, listen, you know, we need to go, we need this and we need that.
We probably need, ah, maybe, you know, 3,000 Canadian shillings or something.
And Kerry came back to the car, in a state of deep distress, with 300,000 Kenyan shillings, you see, that she got from his ATM. From his ATM. From his ATM. From his ATM. From his ATM. It's like, you know, what's this earth?
You know, anyway.
Well, I have to say that the money started pouring out, and...
Because I couldn't...
I thought I'd basically cleaned out the bank, because they...
It just kept coming, and I was just...
I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it either.
But it didn't matter because Kevin Chilling, as you probably gathered, isn't very valuable.
And we were able to change it back and all this kind of stuff.
But since then, I'm the guy who manages the zeros, meaning that I'm the guy who takes care of the numbers and the math and the physics.
And I think Brian and I will probably make Brian laugh.
Can't surprise.
And it's great.
And it's part of the dynamic that makes a great team, actually.
Because when Kerry's got her head way up there in places where I can't even see, I've got my feet fairly close to the ground.
We're kind of connected by some kind of cord most of the time.
And that helps to keep things in balance.
And so...
Having said that, now I want to tell you some pretty weird information, because things started to come at us pretty thick and fast.
Very soon, after Kerry's interview with Bill Hamilton, which she was talking about just now, which is back in 2006, and Bill Hamilton, as some of you may know, is one of the people who was responsible for, to give great credit, for publicizing the story of Dan Burish.
And...
Way back in 2002, when, like you guys, I was busy collecting privately and quietly all the information I possibly could about everything that I could.
Before that, I'd read Timothy Good's Above Top Secret, and before that, I was reading 1988 and thinking, wow, I suppose all this is true.
And before that, I'd had my own ET experiences, just as probably many of you have.
But when...
Bill Hamilton published his own interview with Dan Burish back in 2002.
I saw that on the internet, and something really hit me hard.
I thought, this is amazing.
This man is telling a detailed and complex story about time-travelling, future humans, and some possible problem that is trying to be handled by these guys, all behind the scenes.
And he's trying to tell this story.
And I saw this video that Bill Hamilton had shot, an interview that he had done with Dan Bios back in 2002, and it impressed the heck out of me.
And I just found myself thinking, well, first of all, what I did was I emailed everyone I knew, saying, you know what, you need to see this, there's something really special going on here.
I couldn't get it out of my mind.
And as with many of the people who we've subsequently spoken to, and been privileged enough now to even count as friends, I found myself, you know, I'd love to just be able to go up to this guy in a conference and just say hi.
But it'll never happen.
You know, do this.
These people are out there.
And, I mean, of course, since then, things have moved along quite a lot.
And we're proud to consider Dan one of my personal friends.
And we can talk to you a lot about some of the things that he has shared with us.
And when we interviewed him, he, I mean, the first thing that happened was we immediately realized, we immediately both realized that this guy, who's been disparaged all over the Internet, we found him.
want him to be kind, brilliant, sensitive, witty, very humble, and clearly possessing a huge depth of knowledge about some experiences that he'd had, some of which were deeply troubling to him to integrate.
And we got this very, very quickly.
This guy is absolutely rock-solid in his testimony, and we were very, very privileged at a very early stage And his story,
for those of you who don't know it, and we can go into this in a little bit more detail later, because it's one of the main threats in the whole tapestry that we later came to call the big picture, which is like, what is this all about?
What is it that makes this time special?
What is it that's going on?
What is the ET connection?
Why is it that That all of this is so complicated and so secret.
And those of you who were here yesterday would have remembered my contribution when we were sitting, talking, the four of us at the end of the day, talking about what Bill Burns had said about his own conversation with Admiral George Hoover from the Office of Naval Intelligence before George We're
of the big secrets was that the Roswell visitors back in 1947, that there weren't little bug-eyed aliens from another planet, there were us from the future.
There were time-travelling future humans.
And that this is really the start of the complex web of problems, entangled problems, that the American government and other governments have been grappling with ever since and have chosen, for whatever that the American government and other governments have been grappling with ever since and have chosen, for whatever reasons not to tell us about because they
Well, actually, I have to say that the reason that there is a big picture and the reason of where we're going with all of this is obviously in the direction of 2012, these few years that we're in now and beyond.
Going up until what we understand may be around 2017 and further.
So we're actually aware at this point that the big picture points somewhere.
And that these aliens that were coming here had a mission.
And they were here because they wanted to prevent catastrophe.
A catastrophe that had happened in the past and that resulted in what, according to Dan Beersh, was the splitting of the human race into various factions that then took off, some of which went underground, some took off for other planets, and maybe you can carry it on from there.
Yeah.
The essence of Dan Beersh's information was that, just as Kerry said, there were various groups of future humans with different future lineages who had encountered a catastrophe in their history there were various groups of future humans with different future lineages who had encountered a catastrophe in their history and that prompted by what seems to be the altruistic intentions of a group
P52s refers to present plus 52,000 years.
These guys, said Dan, were from 52,000 years in the future.
Some of them, one of the groups, the group that was responsible for initiating the retrospective time-travelling intervention attempt, were human-looking, were very were human-looking, were very spiritual, were very well-intentioned towards us, were being very careful in their approaches, and he regarded them, as
were being very careful in their approaches, and he regarded them, as best he knew from his Now, there may be many Nordic races, and the whole thing is a huge complexity.
We later on had testimony from witnesses such as Clifford Stone and others, and just as I think it was George yesterday made reference to them, there are many, many, many different races, and the whole thing is incredibly complicated.
So, the summary of that story is that Dan Beers was reporting from his first-hand experience working as a microbiologist in S4 of Area 51, when he had personal encounters with one of these beings, not one of the Nordic beings,
but one of the other guys who had a degenerate genome, because whether the genome degenerates or not in this future timeline, depending on whether you go underground to avoid the catastrophe or whether you leave a planet to avoid the catastrophe, The guys who stayed underground for a while did not, and that's quite interesting.
Now, of course, what we see is we do see a sort of, what I would call a vector, what I would call, it looks like the same sorts of things are happening.
There seems to be some kind of instinct for the powers that be to tunnel underground when they feel danger coming.
It would be such a smart thing to do.
And we've got some really interesting testimony about that, which we'll report on later on this afternoon for my most recent witness, who were calling Jake Simpson.
We'll close off in just one or two minutes, because this information from Dan Beirich was so fantastical.
It left us with a sort of conflict.
It's like, could this really be true?
And yet this guy is absolutely straight up.
We spent a lot of time with him on and off camera.
And we felt that we believed his information, although it was impossible to believe.
And we also felt that this guy was absolutely credible in terms of his sincerity.
Later on, just a few weeks after that, we met another guy who has become very, very central in the Camelot timeline, as it were.
We called him Henry Deacon, which was named after the brilliant polymath in the TV series Eureka.
Amen.
And Henry Deacon is an electronics engineer, highly qualified, multidisciplinary, brilliant man, very spiritual, very anguished.
Because it's quite hard to go through these experiences that these people go through.
Whether you're a black ops insider like Henry, whether you're Dan working with an alien in Area 51, or whether you're George working with the bankers.
Or even whether you're Brian, with the experiences that you've had.
It's hard to emerge from all of this without scars and things that you think about deeply about, and we need to understand these guys and the compassion that they require in order to understand their experiences.
We mortals are not necessarily well equipped to understand what In a very noisy pizza hut with his cell phone battery removed from his cell phone.
That's the first time that we'd heard that that was a smart thing to do.
He knew a whole bunch of stuff and he started telling us things that sounded a little bit like what Dan was saying.
He was starting talking about time travel, and he started talking about a catastrophe, and he started talking about some of the things that he knew.
And we said to him, look, this sounds like Dan Burevich's story, and he didn't know who Dan Burevich was.
Now, we said to him, and we'll talk about Henry's testimony.
After lunch, he has a whole bunch of stuff to report.
He's been to Mars.
He's been to the Mars base.
We'll tell you about that.
But what we asked Henry to do, he said, look, go and listen, or go and watch our video with Dan, and tell us what you think.
And he got back to us three weeks later, saying, Dan Burevich is telling the whole truth, timelines and all.
Okay.
And that was a really important independent corroboration for us, that there's something very real, very important, And
Henry told us a whole bunch of stuff about this, which then I think we'll go on to talk about after lunch.
That feels like a Okay, yeah, absolutely.
Very close.
I just want to say that the catastrophe, according to Dan Deerish, may have been averted.
He has a device called the Looking Glass that he will talk more about.
We've done subsequent interviews with him, had subsequent meetings with him, and his sort of sidekick, Marcy McDowell, who is a The story is complex.
Elements of disinformation may exist within it.
I wouldn't question that.
Where they exist is another matter and it's a huge puzzle, as I said, to put all together.
But it's important to just have the caveat that the catastrophe, as seen in Looking Glass, that there are elements of it which appear to have been mitigated at this time.
Okay.
You ready?
I'm ready.
I thought so, all the cameras going?
They are all going.
So, what happened just before the break, before lunch, is that we ran out of camera tape just as I was trying to come to my punchline.
So I'm just going to repeat that because actually it's quite an important little note for people to ponder on.
And just to recap, where we were at was talking about this whole complex issue of alternative, uncertain, un-predetermined To
illustrate that point, I had mentioned that we had been told by Our most recent witness, Jake Simpson, who's been on our website for the last 48 hours or so, and he's told us so much stuff that all the time we're remembering things that we haven't included in our little report.
And one of these things is just a little off-hand remark.
He said, And I had to do that for the camera, I'm sorry.
And this guy knows how much a trillion dollars was.
This wasn't a throwaway remark.
A trillion is a trillion and a billion is a billion.
This is a trillion.
And the point is that the powers that be don't put a trillion dollars worth of stuff in space that's going to burn up into nothing that eventually re-enters the atmosphere if they knew what was going to happen.
You spend a trillion dollars We don't know what's going to happen.
And if they don't know what's going to happen, we don't know what's going to happen.
And that means that the game is uncertain, undetermined, and therefore open to be affected by ourselves, if we so wish.
And anyone who knows anything about quantum undeterminacy knows that consciousness is king, and this is where the real world of physics interfaces with the world of the esoteric.
And I think Brian would be one of the first people in this room to agree That you cannot embark on this string trail of exploration research and discovery.
Even as a physicist, if you're intellectually honest, it will lead you into spiritual realms, and there's absolutely no escape from that.
Would you realize that?
That's certainly correct.
You might want to hold the microphone up a little higher.
Let's see.
How is that?
How is that working?
Yeah, angle it this way.
Does that sound good?
Yeah, so this is a model for...
What we need was a Princeton PhD to straighten this out.
So the issue here, which we're going to be talking about for a lot of the rest of the office, is what might happen.
We don't have any definitive inside information of the nature that George Green was saying yesterday.
We haven't got anyone saying to us, whether they're worldly or unworldly, That, you know what, World War III is going to start on the 1st of April.
I don't know anything that says that World War III isn't going to start on the 1st of April, but we're going to be discussing in an open sort of way that things do seem to be changing, that the future does not seem to be known, and that the push-me-pull-you sort of tug-of-war between the different influences,
both planetary and off-planet, Is one of the things that is making this game uncertain, interesting, and influential at the moment?
So what we want to do is continue on drilling down with our various witness testimony.
And again, the strength here is not just that we have whistleblower testimony, as well as researcher, as well as even channeled information.
But that we're putting it all together in one place and adding it up.
So, you know, 2 plus 2 equals 4 or 5, whatever.
So, that's where the strength is in Camelot, and that's what we're doing here for you today.
So, under that heading, what I want to tell you about is that over a year ago, we sat down with Dan and Marcy...
In Las Vegas on a private meeting, along with, by the way, I'm not going to name him, but a television producer, who wanted to bring our Project Camelot to the screen as a television show.
And he was working, has been working for the past year to do so.
We originally had a deal with the History Channel.
They then decided from some higher up, about a week later, the word came down that right when they're about to sign a deal with us for a two-hour pilot show, basically, you know, missed the deal and said, you know, we would be a threat to their show UFO Hunters, as if they hadn't thought of that before they made the offer.
So, at any rate, nothing has happened in regard to that.
But the interesting thing that went on between Dan and Marcy and the television producer and us...
Was that Dan had come back from an intensive time working again with Majestic, under whatever name you want to call them, and basically with Looking Glass, and that all bets were then off, as of over a year ago.
Their time travel technology that is telling the future, which is an alien, you know, back-engineered device, was basically Telling them the probabilities of things that were going to happen.
We had a whole report as to what certain things would be happening and how it would roll out.
And Dan was telling us these things.
One of those things was that Hillary Clinton would be president.
And that she would be killed in office.
Now, as you know, that hasn't happened.
That's not what the timeline actually...
How it played out a year later.
There are several other things that we were told that were predicted in Licking Glass that have not transpired.
And you can add to this.
It was a very important meeting, and it's very important for you guys to know about it, because what is happening here is that you've got...
These scientists and Black Project, these people that are basically in the power position on the planet, using special technology to look into the future, and they're actually turning out wrong.
And that means that there's something else at work on the planet, and that we're all a part of it, that's rolling out in a different way.
I'm going to drill down a little bit more into what Kerry just summarized, and she's quite right in emphasizing that this is so very important.
To understand this, to understand the way that the powers that be have been using the power that they gained probably as early as 1947.
We heard from a couple of sources that one of the things that was retrieved from the Roswell crash was some sort of...
Even Henry Deacon couldn't put this properly into words.
It was a very clever gadget, highly advanced, which was connected with their ability to navigate in time, to control where they were in time, to know where they were in time.
And you can use that kind of thing to see what's going to happen, what has happened.
And it's like a sort of...
These are my own words, yeah.
Some sort of an interdimensional interface between where one happens to be and when one happens to be, and the entire flow of time that enables one to control and to perceive.
Something like that.
Now, of course, if you can imagine what happened back in 1947, when this interesting gadget was retrieved by a Air Force physicists.
They start playing with it.
And when they start playing with it, you're really giving...
No offence to any individuals here, but it's part of the human condition, I guess, that if you give human beings a dangerous toy, then they're going to start playing with it and they may start doing some damage with it, just as children would.
And what seems to have happened, as far as we can gather, is that that...
It created a major tangle.
It created a tangle in timelines that even though the future humans were trying to come back to do something to help Which is
why these disks started crashing in the first place, because they couldn't actually interface with the radar, was that the timeline problem then became even more complicated because you were giving the government the ability to And
the reference to the project that happened in the latter half of 2007 is that Dan took a so-called sabbatical for the best part of six months.
I mean, he was really out of communication.
We didn't know where he was.
And on the 10th of December, he met with us in Las Vegas.
The fact that this other guy is a TV producer was just incidental.
He happened to be alone.
he was playing, and he just sat with his jaw on the floor for five hours, as Dan debriefed to us, what had been perceived.
And the purpose of this project that happened back in 2007 was because the... what had been communicated to the American government by the future humans was that the man-made Stargate and Looking Glass technology, which is the same kind of
Stargate is a Stargate, as anyone knows who's been watching TV. Looking glass is the colloquial name given to the same device, used just simply as a way to look through it and see what's on the other side.
You don't need to travel, you just take a look.
And so it becomes like the high-tech version of a crystal ball, where you get to look and see what's happening.
Except that it's not quite as simple as that, because what you see, apparently, or with the information that is retrieved, The future humans told the American government that the catastrophe which was
in their history, and this is where this stuff starts to interface with the whole 2012 mythology and concern that has been building up over the last few years, is that there seems to have been a catastrophe in this timeline, in Dan's own words, roundabout disaster.
I don't know whether it's going to happen tomorrow morning, whether it's going to happen in 2012, whether it's going to happen as late as 2020, whether it doesn't happen at all on this timeline.
So there's something that happened round about now in the future of humans' history.
And apparently, according to their analysis, the reason for this was because the Earth was traveling through a particular area of energized space.
From memory, I believe that he described this energized space as containing micro wormholes.
And the man-made stargates and looking-glasses caused an amplifying effect on this energy, on this energetic space.
And that's what caused the Earth to wobble.
That's what caused the pole shift to happen.
So, this is all very useful information.
This is extremely important.
I'll give it to you.
30 seconds.
What I want you to do is talk to them about the different kind of ships.
There's a magnetic and there's a pole.
Explain that.
Wait.
This is the reference to the leash that you heard by that.
The important thing to understand here is that the future humans said that what you've got to do to stop this from happening is you've got to dismantle these devices.
You've got to decommission these devices.
All you've got to do is first of all you unplug them, then you turn them off, and then to be really safe you split them up into three different components and make sure they're stored under different military agendas and different military organizations in different parts of the world.
Apparently this was done.
And then the reason why they went into this project in the latter half of 2007 is once you've done all that, once you've decommissioned these devices, they're just like, well, now what?
Has this worked?
We don't know.
We'd better take another look.
LAUGHTER And they did take another look.
They took another look using a different kind of technology that they had for looking into the future.
And what they found was something which they evaluated as the most probable timeline was something which was labelled timeline 1 variant 83.
And that's really interesting.
Okay, but you didn't tell them.
I'm not really good at physics, so this is why I wanted you to explain to them about the magnetic.
See, because what happens is there's different levels of catastrophes.
If you have a pole shift or a magnetic pole shift, it does different things to the planet.
And this is where it gets into how many humans are eliminated in the process.
Oh, apologies for that.
This happens all the time, by the way.
And the reason for this is because this is not a linear story, you see.
It's not like saying, okay, this is what happened on my holidays, and this is day one, this is day two.
This goes everywhere.
It's not a linear story.
everything connects with everything else.
And this is, of course, exactly the problem that George Green has in telling his story yesterday.
It doesn't go in a straight line.
Now, okay, so we bookmark that, and we go back to that in just a moment.
And, And what Kerry was referring to there is the difference between a physical pole shift and a magnetic pole reversal.
These are two different things.
And one way to illustrate that, actually, is to refer to a piece of testimony that we received from somebody who was really in a position to know and which we've never publicized.
and we've talked about it, but we haven't put it on our site, because there wasn't enough information to make it a kind of big deal.
But it's just another piece of the puzzle that fits with everything else.
And this happened...
Do you remember what I said just before lunch?
I said that the most interesting emails we get are the ones that do us online.
And we got an email from somebody who said, great site, I love your work, keep it up, and then signed it with his name.
And I thought, wait a minute, I know that name.
But it was a common name.
It wasn't like...
It wasn't such a complicated name that you would figure out that this could only be the one person.
There are probably a number of people called Brian O'Leary, for example.
It's not that uncommon.
And so, if this person, Brian O'Leary, it wasn't Brian, who is like, are you that Brian O'Leary?
Are you the person who I think you are?
And he wrote back and said, yes, I am.
And anybody could have said that, but we checked out the email address and the IP address and all that kind of stuff, and this was the man.
This guy was somebody who is a brilliant scientist, whose name would be known to half of the people in this room, somebody who Brian probably knows, and we can tell him in private, And who we felt that we should never actually release his name, because that wasn't what he was trying to do.
He was just trying to say, hey, I like your site.
And he's on the internet, and I paid very close attention once I realised that this guy is writing to us.
And I said to him, very much on impulse, you probably know something which might be of interest to us and our visitors to our website.
Is there anything about what's going to happen in the next few years that you would like us to know?
And he said, yes, he said, I'm limited about what I can say, but I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, but we're going to have a very tough time.
And this is really quite significant, because he didn't...
He wasn't trying to feed us with disinformation.
He was just somebody who said, hey, I like your site.
We could easily not have picked up on this.
I just happened to notice it and I figured out that this was the man.
And so I asked him.
And he said, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
There are three things that are going to be happening in the next few years.
He said the first thing is there's going to be a corona mass ejection.
And he referenced, and this is a little bit of homework for all you guys to do, he referenced the event of 1859.
Go look it up.
Quite interesting.
He used that solar storms all over the world, if there had been any kind of electromagnetic grid, I'd say, wow, look at the colours in that sky.
That's incredible.
But it was a Corone mass ejection.
So when the Sun has a busy fit and it kind of throws something at the Earth that interacts with the magnetosphere, ionised particles hitting the atmosphere, all kinds of stuff goes on up there.
Nowadays, that would be really bad news if that happened.
He did not say how he knew.
And this is really interesting to the physicists amongst you.
Because you know that the Sun randomly ejects all kinds of stuff.
In any random direction.
It's a little bit like a cowboy shooting off a stick shooter spinning wildly around in circles and kind of firing randomly all around him.
If the earth happens to be in the way, then that's bad news.
But it probably wouldn't be in the way.
He said this was going to happen.
We don't know how he knew.
That was event number one.
He said this would start in 2009.
Here we are.
January the 11th.
Bariska's worth it, by the way.
I'd like to mention that.
Lexan's side.
Who's worth it?
Bariska.
Let's go into that later.
Then he said there would be a magnetic pole reversal, which is already underway.
But he stated this in such a way that it would be significantly important for us to understand why.
And later on, and this is just a footnote to that, The shifting magnetic field in the earth is something that affects consciousness.
We are all electrical beings.
We're souls in an electrical body that is dependent upon the neurological bioelectric activity of the brain and the body in order to function well.
And if you've got something so profound as the US magnetic field that starts doing weird things, then human beings are going to start doing weird things too.
And so are dolphins, and so are whales, and so are all kinds of animals all over the world.
And Henry said, have you noticed that in the last 10-15 years there's been an increase in conflict, more people are misunderstanding each other, there are more people who seem to be going crazy, there are more people who seem to be behaving in irrational, strange ways,
not connecting with each other, But a magnetic pole reversal isn't necessarily going to spoil your whole day.
It's happening already, as best I understand.
Brian can probably help us understand this better, and we'll talk to him tomorrow about all this.
And then the third event, he said, was the big one.
He said finally there will be a pole shift.
A pole shift.
A pole shift is a physical pole shift.
A pole shift is when the Earth was like that, and then it goes, boom, like that.
It suddenly shifts.
And any geologist will tell you this has happened many times before.
Most of you know what this is.
It's a physical shift in the orientation of the Earth relative to its rotation around the Sun.
But it causes things like tsunamis, continents shifting, going under the water, Atlantis, for example, pole shift.
And what it's caused by, I'm not sure they know, but among other things, the interesting thing that is happening here is that we're telling you about a scientist who is highly, highly respected, and who has suddenly been, he told us this much, Asked to come on board to work for, of all places, Homeland Security.
And this is a man who was published on the web, who was clearly actually sort of anti-government, was something of a rebel in his own right, again, still maintained his respectability because of the level of scientist that he was, or is.
And so it was very valuable that he would even come back on an email like that Revealing that much.
All he did was list three things that were going to happen, the fact that he worked for Homeland Security, and the fact that he couldn't say anything more.
And that is the last, I believe, we wrote back to him, obviously.
And that's the last we heard from him.
Now, this is happening at the same time that we're getting the information from Dan Beurich.
So you see how, and Henry Deacon, and so as we pull these threads together and these people coming from completely different directions with completely different motivations are coming to us with the same story.
Right.
So now go back to what Dan told us.
Exactly.
Our source here just finally, he apologised for not being able to say more and he said that we were the first people he communicated with outside the national security community for a number of years.
We took that as a great compliment and as a risk that he was saying.
He's taking his own part.
He said as much as he could.
Going back to what Dan said.
Now, this guy communicated with us from memory.
It was in the middle of Dan's project.
It was round about the middle of 2007.
Some of the whistleblowers who speak to us don't have up-to-date information.
Or they hear it from a colleague of theirs.
They have their own grapevines.
They have their own rumour mills.
They don't necessarily come straight from a briefing that they had that morning.
And just to backtrack on where we were with Dan, and the story of these man-made stargates and looking-glasses needing to be decommissioned, because that was what was going to cause the catastrophe, and then, wait a minute, we better check to see where this has worked, and then they took another look using an alien device, and what they saw was that the most probable timeline was the following.
Now, in terms of nomenclature, I don't know why it wasn't called timeline 1, but it was called timeline 2.
Timeline 1 is the other one when that doesn't happen.
So, are we on timeline 1 or are we on timeline 2?
It's as important as knowing whether you're heading north or heading south.
It's a pretty important distinction to make.
And the first thing that they established in that time portal intelligence probe, which I think is what Dan called it formally, is that we were on timeline 1.
We're on timeline one.
And so once you figure out that there's not going to be a catastrophe, the next question for curious scientists is, well, okay, well, what is going to happen then?
Okay.
And then this is the variant 83 part, when they started to drill down into the detail of what will be happening in the next few years.
But I want to say that, interestingly, and this is on our site, most of this information, so you don't need to be taking notes.
But, and we will be taping this as well for release, Dan said, so then we were in an interview with him at one point.
We said, okay, that's great.
And then he said, but there's no free lunch.
And then he proceeded to tell us what that meant.
And basically, Timeline Variant 83 contained things like nuclear war and other fairly dire predictions, among which, as I said, Hillary was in office.
I have to back up.
There's one other part that you guys need to know, which is about the Yellow Book.
And the technology allows the world leaders to see their own future and then plot their lives accordingly to the best version of that future.
And that is part of the reason why they are highly successful and remain so.
Because they were actually cheating.
And in regards to Hillary, what Dan said is that she was one of the people that had access to this technology, was given the yellow book, and looked into her future and saw that she was going to be assassinated in office.
She was, he said, this is his story, willing to go into office knowing that she would be assassinated, and therefore she had garnered his respect.
And this was, you know, back over a year ago.
Now, It's now 11th of January, and Obama's inauguration is in nine days' time.
And so it's a pretty safe bet to conclude that wherever we are at the moment, we're not on variant 33.
That hasn't happened.
This is the good news.
This is more good news.
And it's more good news in the sense that Package of information that was called Variant 83, that was evaluated as being the most probable future visible at that time, it did contain bad news.
It did contain a war against Iran that was predicted to start in October, last October.
That didn't happen.
There was a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan.
The jury's out.
There were Would be a financial collapse that was triggered in that timeline by the Iran war.
Well, the financial collapse is probably planned anyway.
It's a kind of controlled demolition of the economy which was set in place long before, which most of the people here know about, which George already spoke about extensively yesterday.
And he said that in this war that was seen, it would last...
Through until 2010, Russia and China have become involved.
It's all pretty bad news.
And, you know, based on that reality, New Yorker Bamba sounds like a pretty good place to be.
And we're actually marching in a step with what George said.
But, Hillary is not the president.
The war with Iran did not happen in October.
We are not on that timeline.
And if we're not on that timeline, it means that we don't know what's going to happen next.
If we do not know, it is not known.
We haven't spoken to anyone who does know.
And if I had been a betting man, I would have placed quite a lot of money in a black kind of way, as it were.
Maybe this doesn't sound too good, actually.
This is a metaphor again.
We have so many parallel information points that in terms of data clustering on a graph, everything pointed to something happening last October.
Everything happened.
We were all watching it.
We had, I mean, something that we have already spoken about publicly is that our guy Henry Deacon, at the end of September, he told us that he had received a telephone call.
He said he's never received a telephone call like this in his life.
life.
He was asked to report the duty in the Middle East the next morning.
He said he was almost ordered to do it, except that they couldn't actually order him to.
He was asked in a way that he almost could not refuse.
The rate of pay was $800 an hour without overtime.
That's a very great Even in that field, it's quite a lot of money.
He turned it down to his very great credit.
He said, I don't want any part of this.
He was never told why he was asked to report for duty in the Middle East.
Why?
We don't know.
Nothing's happened in the Middle East yet, except that something seems to be cranking up.
Whether that fire's going to burn out on its own, or whether it's going to crank up into something much bigger, we don't know.
This is the conversation we had yesterday.
Okay, but we have had whistleblower testimony that we have not been able to release in total, some of which we did release, from a witness who supposedly was in close communication with the Illuminati,
who was saying that their agenda was rolling out just as planned, And that he was basically going underground and would not be able to communicate further.
We've been talking back and forth with this man for over a year.
I have to tell you also that, and he was basically saying, you know, the dire, somewhat dire agenda...
Depending on how you want to look at it, which includes things like elimination of the population that George was talking about.
Most everything that George enumerated yesterday was going along, and that it may be behind schedule, but that it was shortly to sort of ratchet up.
On top of that, we have had other whistleblowers from behind the scenes coming forward saying things are on schedule.
We also have someone who we've been in communication with for over...
Possibly even as much as two years who is a good friend of Alex Collier and he has been telling us about his information that he has from some NSA sources that has basically geared him up to building an underground base in an undisclosed location.
He has told us about The Queen of England, who has now got an underground base being built in part of Colorado.
So there are...
And he's also a very wealthy man, and I can't tell you how he made his money, because that's a highly controversial matter, but he basically said that he knew when the banks were going to go on bank holiday, as George does, And he's been in constant contact with us.
What's interesting in all this mix is that some of these people coming forward seem to all be agreeing on at least the agenda.
In other words, we haven't talked about Bill Deagle.
Bill Deagle is somebody who's highly controversial, who was a medical doctor who's on the web.
You may know of him, may have seen our interview with him.
People ranted and raved at us for having interviewed him because they felt he's too negative.
They didn't want to hear it.
They think he could possibly be programmed.
He's been given testimony from other whistleblowers that we haven't as their doctor in working in black projects.
That outline, you know, like, a laundry list of their plans and their agenda, just as George has been telling you, that involves eliminating the population, you know, using viruses to do so, and, you know, when, where, how, and so on.
He's also highly intuitive and feels he has channeled information that tells him certain things.
One of which was October, that October was going to be when this whole thing kind of came underway.
Well, actually, it appears, and I have to say it appears, that he has been incorrect, at least thus far.
We've got David Wilcock, who is a well-known psychic, intuitive, who is also highly scientific, and has a very well-known website called DivineCosmos.com, who can give you the scientific basis for what's going on, What he feels is the heating of the planets.
He works with Hoagland, and I'm sure many of you are familiar with Richard Hoagland.
So what happens is we get all this testimony, and some of it is corroborative, some of it is not, some of it is conflicting.
What's interesting is that it's almost like, and maybe this is a slightly cold analogy, but it's almost like watching a game.
In which there are predictions as to which side's going to win.
And we're getting people that are sort of calling the shots and calling the plays, if you will.
But I have to say that when it appears that something hasn't happened, for example in October, there are a number of reasons why that might be the case.
It doesn't actually necessarily mean that certain things haven't happened.
It could mean That these viruses have been put in place.
It could mean that they've been activated.
It could mean they're not showing up yet.
It could mean we need another six months to see that.
If you talk to Bill Deagle, that's probably what he'll say.
On the other hand, it could mean the White House hats in the government, and this is a very important part of it, have been successful.
There has been, from what I understand, even in the last year, something of a coup in our government in the United States, which is not necessarily...
I mean, Obama is a front man, and he was long prophesied to be, or planned to be, the leader at this time.
However...
There is reason to believe that there are people, part of which is Majestic 12, from our understanding with Dan and Marcy, that are working in our white hats and don't want to see the elimination of the population.
Some of the Majestic 12 are absolutely part of the Illuminati and they do want to see these things happen.
So you've got fighting in the ranks, And the fact that we're up here telling you all this is testimony to the fact, if you talk to Jake Simpson, if you talk to Dan Burish, that we have people or friends in high places that are allowing us to do so because they're actually white hats.
So it's a really important ingredient in all of what we're saying.
I think this, I'm just kind of taking pause to think where we should go next with this at the moment.
Shall we go to Jake Simpson?
That sounds good.
Jake Simpson was somebody who we met on our long, month-long There and Back Australia trip when we were invited to speak at the Nexus Conference in Brisbane in October.
And on that trip, we met a whole bunch of people.
When we were on Coastal That's
the end.
Anyway, beside the point, there we were.
So, we met Jake Simpson.
And the first preface that I want to make to this information is all on our site.
We wrote up as much as we could.
Well, we wrote up as much as we could remember.
And we spent three days, or maybe it was even four days, with this man and his family and his children.
And he's a delightful, brave man.
One of the first things he said to us was that when he first encountered our information, he wasn't sure if we were real or not, unquote.
He used his own intelligence-gathering context to check us out.
He looked me in the eye, he said, I checked you out, he said, I know everything about your life.
He said, I know that you've been telling the truth.
And then the other thing he said, the next thing he said was, anyone else who's ever tried to do exactly what you're doing is being killed.
He said, so I really admire your courage.
And this guy is a warrior in the Jedi tradition.
He's quite a remarkable man.
And that was a very high compliment from him, that he should be respecting our courage.
And just to loop back into what we were talking about earlier on, when we first started before lunch, What happens naturally, and we're just saying, well, this is who we are, we've got nothing to hide, and, you know, it's the Bill and Kerry show, and so on and so forth.
And other people are saying, wow, you're so brave.
But actually, one of the things that I think unites Kerry and myself very strongly is that I have no fear.
Do you have any fear?
No, I actually don't.
And I'll address that briefly, since it's sort of a side light.
But basically, the weird thing about us embarking on this journey is that we both happen to be the kind of personalities, I guess, it's a personality type, that sort of go forward in a very optimistic way.
And we just don't look over our shoulder.
We tend to just do what we do, and then, you know, whatever happens, happens.
So we're not paranoid.
I'm not afraid at the moment.
And I'm a rebel at heart, so that was easy from the beginning.
And then, obviously, Bill wasn't afraid.
So it's kind of weird that we do what we do, but we don't see it as something that would cause fear.
It's more a wild, exciting adventure, I guess, if you will.
What I'm not good at is...
You know, sort of a more Jerome-like existence in which you would have, you know, the same thing every day and you would be predictable in certain ways.
So I think that's in our favour.
And Kerry's not afraid of Majestic, the NSA, the CIA, the DIA, the DOD, or the Illuminati, which is not good with big spiders.
That's true.
It's very funny.
On a more serious note, I'm not afraid because I know I'm an immortal being.
They can't kill me.
They can't kill you.
They can't kill any of us.
That's another lie that we've been told ever since we were old enough to understand what our teachers were trying to tell us.
We're not animated hocks on it.
We're immortal spiritual beings who happen to be driving these vehicles, as George loves to say, this road to wreck here.
And I like to say what Obi-Wan Kenobi said in Star Wars.
If any of you are familiar with this wonderful movie, all that myth, all that fact-based myth.
If they kill me, I'll just be more powerful than they could ever imagine.
Maybe that's why they need me to learn.
If they kill me, I'll just come back.
Okay, so let's do Jake Simpson.
Let's do Jake Simpson.
LAUGHTER That's where we were, right?
Jake is a remarkable man.
And the spirit of fun, I think, which is another thing that Harry and I very much have in common, he has the same thing in common.
And also, like George, Jake would be talking about all kinds of things that will make our eyes bulge, and he'd just have a big grin on his face because he's been living with this stuff for a long time.
And...
Like what?
Here we go.
I'll try and remember the stories that he told us.
And there's four days' worth, and it's not necessarily a linear story.
First of all, he referenced, just in passing, some of the information we had on our site about the creation of the super-soldier program, as described by Duncan Afinian, David Corso, and a whole lot of other people who contacted us privately who were involved in that.
The powers that be...
The intelligence and militaries of the world are very, very interested in enhancing the abilities of humans, and they do this in a number of different ways.
One of the things that they did with Jake, interestingly enough, is they figured, for whatever reason, that it would be useful for them to enhance his cognitive ability.
So they enhanced his cognitive ability, because these guys can do all kinds of things.
He has a reading and comprehension speed of 80 to 100,000 words per minute.
That's a lot of zeros.
As a test, when he went through this program to check out of that particular training, he was given George Orwell's Animal Farm.
And he was asked to read it from cover to cover in three minutes, and then he was tested.
And he was tested like, what does it say on the top left of page 154?
He got 90%.
It wasn't the highest score, but that was enough for him to be a pass.
I guess that's why he wasn't in the FBI.
He wasn't a 60% error.
That was one of the first things that caught my attention.
And we actually, we saw some of this remarkable ability in action when we were with him.
We actually witnessed it.
It was really very interesting.
One of the things that would happen when we were talking with him is that he would be, for instance, we'd ask him a question and he'd dodge the question.
He'd sort of slip away from it, make a little joke and change the subject.
And then ten minutes later he'd answer it.
And after a little while, we saw this as a pattern, and we said, well, why are you waiting for a little while before you answer this question?
Why are you waiting sometimes for ten minutes, sometimes for half an hour, sometimes till the next day, and sometimes you can answer immediately?
What's going on here?
And he eventually helped us understand that what was going on was this.
And this is really, really interesting.
And it's just the tip of the iceberg of a whole bunch of incredible information that you tell us.
He said there's an artificial intelligence system that operates in hyperspace.
How do they keep track of what people are saying?
If they want to, what people are saying, what they're thinking, and not only that, he said, if they wanted to find out what Julius Caesar's last words really were, they could find out.
He said, this is an enhancement, it's a human enhancement of alien technology, and he said, this is so advanced that the ETs are not happy that we've got it, because we're not using it right now.
And that's what he said.
And he said, this...
monitoring capacity.
And this dovetailed directly with something that we'd heard from Henry Deacon.
Because I've talked to Henry about a conversation that I've had completely separately.
And this is a whole different story.
Long ago, this is another Kosovo movie thing, it A lot of interesting whistleblowers end up on Koso movie.
Back in 2000, long before Camelot, I ended up talking to a guy who used to work in Bell Labs.
We were walking along the beach, and this guy was telling me an incredible story.
At the time, I thought it was incredible.
Going along the story, walking along the beach, because he hadn't wanted to talk to me about this in his own house.
I told Henry this story.
He said it won't make any difference.
We're inside a lead-lined cage.
He said, it makes absolutely no difference.
They want to hear what you're saying, they're going to hear what you're saying.
And now, Henry didn't enlarge on that, but when Jake started to tell us about this technology, then I started to understand it works in hyperspace.
It's a hyperdimensional thing.
I can't even imagine the details.
But when we started to ask Jake, we said, look, this is incredible stuff.
I can't believe that these people have this sort of technology.
I can believe they've got advanced craft, and I know they can do strange things, but this is really out of this world.
And he said, listen.
He said, black technology, meaning black physics technology, or the physics that they use in black ops, is probably something like 10,000 years ahead of public sector technology.
10,000 years ahead of public sector technology.
And it's accelerating away from the state of public sector technology at the rate of 1,000 years a year.
That's how they can do this stuff.
He said, you have no idea what they can do.
They can do almost anything.
And this is the remark that Brian was saying yesterday, about Arthur C. Clarke's comment, that any sufficiently high technology would be actually indistinguishable from magic.
We're almost at that stage already, as far as we can understand from what Jake was saying.
And yeah, just to sort of drill down a little bit into the time, what was going on when he would answer the questions or not answer the questions, one of the things he would do is say, wait...
I would say, wait?
Wait for what?
And then he would say, okay, it's all right now.
And it's important to know that he was a trained remote viewer as well and a highly developed intuitive that helped him in his various jobs that he did around the world For the secret government, in essence.
And what he would say is, it's coming round again.
And it's almost like, I guess, a traveling beacon in which it would zone in or it would be gone.
And he could tap into when he felt they were sort of listening in and when they weren't.
And that's when he would tell us stuff.
So that's how the conversation progressed.
I'm not sure...
Well, okay, let me say that one thing that has been left off of our discussion with him, he talked also about, as you may know, John Lear has talked about under Area 51 and under Nevada, there's very likely a high-speed train that goes underground between here and places like Pine Gap, Australia, and various other bases, including, I'm sure, CERN in Geneva.
And...
Basically, that's how they move people around.
And he actually attested to that, as well as the fact that John Lear has said that he's gotten inside information about this.
So this is where, again, we're getting more than one whistleblower from completely different places that are in agreement.
I want to say here also that there's an interesting thing that goes on with whistleblowers.
They're human, like anyone, and they often fluctuate as to how much they'll reveal to you at any given time.
So there's a whole psychology that we've had to sort of learn by experience as we've started to interact with these people.
In dealing with...
Some days they will be able to tell you things and they will feel brave and rebellious and tell you whatever they want.
And the next day they're telling you that they actually can't tell you anything.
They can't talk about this, they can't talk about that, and they're worried about the safety of their family and loved ones.
So it's important to know that they blow hot and cold In the case of Henry Deacon, he's been quite an interesting witness, one of the people we've gotten to know almost maybe better than anyone, in some ways.
And he worked for Livermore Labs, he worked for places on the planet that are highly sophisticated, that have technologies that are really beyond...
As Bill was talking about, he was hands-on with those technologies.
He was involved in 9-11.
He knows some of the planning behind it.
But his level only goes to a certain point.
And this is another thing about whistleblowers, and this is something else that we keep in mind when we analyze the testimony that we do get, which is they all have levels at which they have access, and their level cuts off at some point.
So you cannot always know what they're telling you is the complete truth based on, as Richard Hoagland would say, there are many levels to the onion.
The lie is different at every level.
Yeah, the lie is different at every level.
And that really is absolutely true.
So that you will get people who say, wait a minute, there's no such thing as Majestic 12 because I didn't know about them.
And in this case, that's what Henry says.
He's never heard of Majestic 12.
What is it?
Okay, Majestic 12 is...
Back in the Truman...
Okay, the storyline goes, back in the Truman administration, a group of, well, basically Illuminati were given the task, scientists, engineers, in mainly America, Put together, supposedly 12, there are photographs of who the exact people were.
People like Werner Braun-Vaughn.
I'm not sure if he was in Majestic 12.
He wasn't.
I'm not going to argue with that.
And there are various people, in theory, Someone like Einstein could be Majestic 12.
There were people in high places in government, in military, that were assembled to handle what was considered to be the ET problem or question.
And from there on, they grew and basically stopped letting presidents know in America, except as a need to know whatever they needed to know.
And then the presidents really didn't have access.
And this dovetails with the testimony of Dan Sherman, who is an intuitive communicator that was trained by the government, who's actually genetically engineered in his mother's womb before he was born, to handle what will be According to what he was taught by the government, a shutdown electromagnetically across the planet at some point in the future.
And he wasn't told when.
He's still alive.
We have an interview with him.
He's written a book called Above Black.
Fascinating man.
Very buttoned down.
Doesn't want to reveal a lot, but he did quit the program, and then he began to be a whistleblower to tell people what was going on.
He was communicating with an alien, using a computer initially, eventually not using the computer anymore.
He had direct communication with that alien.
And he was trained to handle a situation in which our government would not be able to communicate with each other, the powers that be, and they were going to use humans stationed around the globe To communicate for some reason with off-planet intelligences during a time when there would be no electromagnetic communication.
The exact phrase in his book, Above Black, is that this was in preparation for a future time when all electronic communications will be rendered useless.
And he was told this 20 years ago.
But as Kerry says, he wasn't told when.
And the reason why he went on that little interesting detour...
Is because this is further corroboration that the powers that be somehow knew or suspected or were trying to insure themselves against something that was coming down the line which they definitely didn't want us to know about because they felt that we couldn't handle it.
Now, going back into the Jake Simpson situation, let me just take two minutes to talk to our sponsor.
We've got four minutes worth of tape back.
We will have to pause just for a couple of seconds here to change tapes and things.
And When we came across Jake's information, and we've only just started here, because he started talking about what was known and what might be coming, and what he was in the know about, and what preparations had been made for it.
And he was telling this in such detail that we ourselves thought, back in October, we thought, you know what?
We don't know if we can release this, because we started to wonder if we had a responsible duty to withhold this information, because it didn't sound good.
A few months later, we're kind of thinking, well, okay, we know a little bit more.
We've had a lot of telephone conversations with the guy.
He's emphasizing that it is not known what's going to happen.
But what he basically said is that it has been known since the Second World War, probably since the Second World War, he said.
He suspects that this was the reason for Eisenhower's heart attack in 1955, shortly after.
Something that might not all have been good news.
That there was something coming at us, or relativistically speaking, we are like a ship in the solar system, sailing into a storm as we go careering around the Milky Way at goodness knows what rate of speed.
We're sailing into Jake didn't know about the man-made looking-grasses and stargates, but he said his metaphor was, and the words that he used was, there is a wave coming.
There is a wave coming.
And in space, it doesn't matter whether you're coming at the wave or the wave's coming at you.
I don't know which one added, but he said there's a wave that's going to hit us.
And when we said when, he said, as far as he understands, it's not 2012, it's later.
When we put to him the date that Bob Dean mentioned to us, now this is in connection with what he was told was Nibiru or Planet X, and Bob Dean gave the date of 2017, our man Jake Simpson said, that's probably just about right.
That's good news because maybe we've got a few more years now.
Dan Deerish never said 2012.
Dan Deerish would only say, round about now.
And Jake told us...
How are we doing?
We may not be the same on all three cameras.
So why don't we change them now?
Why don't we change them now, and then we'll just pause at that dramatic point, and then we'll carry on talking about what he...
So just to reiterate now for those of you that are in conversation moving around, we're going to take a half hour.
We have one hour left with Camelot and a half hour of that we're going to dedicate to questions from the audience.
We're going to also allow for around 15 minutes for Miriam to speak and she's going to join a panel at the very end.
We have 15 minutes left to just wrap up what we've been telling you, so that to continue on a little bit more with Jake Simpson and then wrap things up as closely as you can.
Ready to go?
Ready to go?
And one thing I want to say that I was talking to somebody, actually Alfonso, and realized that we hadn't said, Jake Simpson is still working for the man, the Illuminati.
He was actually in a meeting, a secret meeting he told us about, in which, and this had to do with his rebellion and breaking from trying to get out of that whole business, and when he was, he heard them referring to people as completely eliminated people.
What was his actual words?
Do you remember?
I actually don't remember.
It was something so dire, something so cold and just ruthless that he realized he had to get out.
So they made his life very uncomfortable and closed down some projects that he had been involved in.
He got out of the situation, but he is called upon from time to time to do them a favor, quote-unquote.
So I have to say that, like many whistleblowers, you can never completely get out.
And they are often highly surveilled, as we are.
I have to say that, although we've had nothing super bad happen to us directly, there have been people that have had Things happen as a result of association with us, such that, you know, like we had somebody who took over our website, whose place was broken into the next day, and he basically called us up and said, We don't know for sure that that was just not a coincidence.
Obviously he felt it was a targeted situation.
So I have to say that whereas we are protected and Jake himself got us in to Thailand and he has been monitoring our steps.
He's quite open about that.
He in fact will know exactly what we're doing today.
And he's basically giving us his blessing.
He's also made it possible for us to get through some immigration problems that we could have had.
So we've also had assistance in those areas.
But people that associate with us, it may be another matter.
We just don't know.
Okay.
Back to Jake.
One of the things that he told us, and this will...
This will be fun for the aerospace buffs in the crowd here.
He told us about the TR3B, the Great Triangle.
And he said that this thing can travel from geostationary orbit, which is 22,300 miles up, to treetop height in one, two, three, four, Five seconds.
And I said, wow, that's something else.
And I said, hey, how do you know that?
He said, I was counting.
And I later figured it out.
That's 16 million miles per hour.
He said, look, this doesn't travel in space.
This doesn't travel in space.
This is a space-time jump operation, that kind of thing.
And he can't see it.
These things can travel outside of our solar system if they want to, or even larger oceans can.
This is all part of the 10,000 years ahead of regular physics context that he told us about.
And that's just a fun story for the airspace pastor, which I am one.
But what he told us about the wave that was coming, which is where we were at just before the break, one of the things I asked him was, well, how do they know about this thing?
And this can be answered on a number of different levels.
One of his responses to that was they've been out to take a look at They've been out in their, quote, in their superluminal craft, they've been out to take a look at this thing, and they've come back to report what it was that they measured, or that they saw.
And that impressed me.
It was a very straightforward, matter-of-fact answer.
It's actually, well, yeah, you know, if they're sitting in Florida, and there's a storm coming in, there's a hurricane coming in, then maybe you go out and take a look and see where it is, and then you come back and say, you know what, it's going to be here in three days.
Now, he did not know.
This is to repeat what we said before.
He didn't know when this thing was coming.
And he didn't know what would happen when it did come.
And it's very, very important to stress that he said that nobody knows what's going to happen.
The ETs don't know.
He said it could be just a puff of wind and then it's all over.
Or he said it could be...
He's the only other person that we have come across who said exactly what George Green said about the 400 mile an hour winds.
He said exactly the same thing.
He said this is the kind of thing that could occur.
Whether it will occur or not is a completely different matter.
And what Jake was saying was being done about this, was something that was not News to us, or will be news to anyone in this room.
He said that ever since they found out about this stuff, which is pretty much round about the Second World War, the military have been doing what it is that they do best, which is they dig in and start being defensive.
And so they started tunneling in and making all their big trillion dollars worth of investment in their underground bases.
And one of the things he told us was that in some locations, when they were excavating these giant bases that they've got, They broke into older vases that were there, deep underground, which had not been built by us.
and what he said was and we had not heard this anyway before he said that these bases were thousands of years old and had evidently been excavated by our predecessors in their response to the similar situation that occurred in their world 12,000 years ago
now you correlate that with all the myths of the great flood that exist in 88 different cultures, or however many it is now.
And Plato's report of the sinking of Atlantis, and he was a good historian, he never got anything on that.
And something happened back then.
There's a huge amount of circumstantial evidence, and some would say quite solid evidence, to suggest that a long time ago, we had, before our current It's based on slightly different stuff than we've got here, but they were faced with exactly the same problems because these problems are cyclical.
And the cyclical problems are connected with the solar system's rollercoaster burden around the Milky Way as it goes up and down like a...
It's like the horse and the merry-go-round, going round and round and round and up and down and up and down.
And every time it crosses the galactic plane, there seems to be some problematic thing that happens That is connected with energetic space, and this does also link in with what other commentators, particularly David Wilkart and others, David's a good friend of ours, we know him very well, have commented about the fact that this is not necessarily always bad news.
This energetic space that we travel through regularly is also maybe something that prompts...
Changes in our DNA, changes in the way that our consciousness functions, changes in the way that we're able to access and process information.
Personally, I wouldn't take it any further than that, but I do personally believe that there is some evidence to suggest, quite some circumstantial evidence to suggest, that When was it?
September 2006.
He said the problem is that everything is happening at the same time.
It's all converging.
It's all coming together.
he didn't say what everything, in inverted commas, was, but he was emphasizing over and over again that the problems are multiple.
This is one of the reasons why they're so confusing.
Yeah, and I wanted to say that Henry Deacon, from the time we met him, he has been absolutely adamant in terms of what he was told by the government.
while he was working for Black Projects how they were informed that these things were coming, and therefore on the more negative side of the timelines.
And that they needed to be prepared for.
And so one of the things that Henry has been doing has been telling us about things like buying a car that is old enough not to be containing...
An engine management system.
and manage so that the government the powers that be cannot drive your car for you and also so that it cannot be affected by the you know the the CMEs that come off the Sun when the Sun starts to get very active which he said was going to be inevitable he he basically is operating in many people from black black projects is It's almost like...
If you will, a form of programming, I have to say, in which they are told there is a rollout.
And it's basically the agenda, as George Green has slated out to you.
And that's why you get so many of the same reports.
Now, a lot of the agenda items haven't actually happened yet, but as you see, the ball is starting to roll.
Certainly the economy going down is maybe the tipping point.
So he has been cautioning us for two years to find a safe place, to do this, to do that, and make all these preparations for what he feels he's completely convinced is coming, and that's absolutely inevitable.
Interestingly enough, we put him in touch with David Wilcock, and some of you will be familiar with David, maybe a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, depending on your point of view.
David is very optimistic.
David believes in ascension.
David believes that consciousness is changing, that there's something very positive coming out of all of this.
Henry and David had a wonderful meeting of the minds.
They've talked for hours and hours and hours.
David was just on Coast to Coast reporting on a lot of our Henry Deacon testimony, things that Henry has told him about human-looking aliens that are working in the government.
We've also gotten that same testimony from Bob Dean, who is an elder statesman and an ex-military man.
Who is definitely in the know as to what's going on behind the scenes with the government.
So what's very interesting is to see a black project person like R. Henry Deacon get in touch with someone like David Wilcock and also resonate with some of the things that David is saying in terms of, look, it's not all dire.
So that's an interesting sort of side...
What we do try to do is put some of our whistleblowers in touch with our other contacts.
And often they strike up wonderful friendships and there are meetings of the minds and sometimes they can put two and two together also among themselves.
We also put George in touch with Jake Simpson, for example.
So they've had some dialogue.
Jake, for example, Resonates very strongly with everything George is saying and wants to go further along that line with George because George is very instrumental in making plans for what can we do?
If all of this is coming, what can we do?
And that's actually the next step that we want to talk about before we open up for questions.
We created another website, it's called ProjectAvalon.net, a few months ago.
It has a forum in which what our objective was, was to, once we stated the problem with Camelot and described the problem, what we wanted to do was create solutions, or possible solutions, and connect to people.
So that they could find safe places if they felt that was necessary.
So again, Project Avalon is set up to do that.
And I mentioned it before.
Do you want to talk about it in general in any way?
Yeah.
It was inspired, really, by our interview with George Green that we...
I think it was dated last April, and we were so struck by his ground crew messages, and it resonated with us so strongly.
The message of...
I'm just trying to think how to put it all into just a single sentence.
It's a message...
Bad news, if you like.
In other words, we can do something about it, but we have to start now, and we have to connect with people, we have to work together, we have to form communities, we have to be smart, we have to be informed, and then we're in with a chance.
Now, to me, that sounds like the kind of thing that a coach would say before an important game.
That's the kind of thing that's getting me motivated to play my best.
Other people might say, hey, I quit.
But some people are going to quit, and some people are going to...
Step up to the plate and to produce their very, very best at this time.
One of my favourite movies, some of you may know this, it's dated now actually, this is the Jeff Bridges, called Starman.
Anyone seen Starman?
Hey!
Wow.
I love her.
One of the things he says at the very, very end, and the story of Starman, this is an alien who's taken on a human body And he's on the run from the spooks who are trying to grab him and so on and so forth.
And he's saying towards the end of the movie what he has learned from his short time operating as a human being on this planet.
And his summary is he says the thing that is really wonderful about you is that when things are at their worst, you are at your best.
Such a living life.
That had a huge impact on it.
It is so true.
And we have that capacity to step up to the plate.
Forgive the American baseball term here.
I'm English and I prefer cricket.
But it's got something to do with rising to the occasion.
It's got something to do with responding to the challenge.
And we can do this.
Talk about that a little bit.
So it's about connecting with people.
It's about connecting with people.
It's about synergy.
It's about the fact that individually we may fall, but together we may stand.
And there are groups that are forming all over the world.
We called this, what George has called in his wonderful little book.
Where is it?
We don't have it.
Message is for the ground crew.
You are the ground crew.
We are the ground crew.
Anyone else who's paying attention to what's going on here are the ground crew.
And...
The message, essentially, is that the ground crew need to work together, they need to connect together, they need to form communities.
Now, a community isn't necessarily just a little group of people at the end of a muddy road halfway up a mountain and build a bamboo growing their own vegetables and hoping for the best.
That's not necessarily what a community is.
Now, that was a little flip, and I didn't mean it that way.
But a community can also be a street.
It can be the people in your apartment.
It can be...
People who are connected with each other who meet regularly within the city.
You don't have to relocate to Vilcabamba in order to operate.
Somebody...
Are they in this room?
The person who said to me that they had been really worried about this, about where to go, and what to do, and what action to take, and what country should they be in, what community should they join.
And on the Avalon Forum, when this was being debated, one of the...
One of the messages that they got that changed their whole outlook was, it's not where you are, it's what you are.
And that person who reported that wonderful story to me...
Yeah, beautiful.
Did I tell that right?
That's it.
That's it.
And there are other versions of that.
It's not necessarily a question of...
How many gold coins have you got in your pocket and whether you know how to grow vegetables?
It's not about that.
It's about your relationships with people.
It's about whether you can make things work, whether you can form teams with people, whether your response to a crisis is, oh my God, what am I going to do for myself?
Or, oh my God, what am I going to do about everyone else?
One of the stories which I love, which is inspiring, I believe this was told in a wonderful book that inspired me a long time ago called The Holographic Universe by Michael Tolbert.
Who's read that?
A lot of you, I'm sure.
Do you remember the story that he told about the research that had been done and the miracles that had taken place at Lloyd's?
Because some people do receive miraculous curing at Lloyd's.
And a bunch of psychologists started to interview people who had received these healings, and some people who hadn't, because it was useful to know, how can it work sometimes and how come it doesn't work?
Was that the people who had received healings were the people who had prayed for a healing for somebody else.
Isn't that a wonderful story?
And the lovely catch-22 about that is you can't fake that.
You see, Groucho Marx once said, Honestly, in antiquity, make the world go round.
Maybe you can fake that, but you've got it made.
You can't fake a prayer That someone else will get healed, hoping that you're going to get the benefit.
It doesn't work that way.
It's got to be real.
And it's that lifting of ourselves up to be the highest and the best that we can be, so that we're not going into this situation thinking, how can I save my own situation?
You're going in there saying, This is what's going to save the situation in my own estimation.
It's not a matter of sitting in power spots and meditating.
It's not a question of ritual activity.
It's a question of intentional action that's coming from the very highest place inside you.
And for those of you who are saying, asking yourself and asking other people, what can I do, what can I do?
do what we did a long time ago in our naivety in our ignorance we just started something not knowing where it was going to go but we just started by taking that first step we didn't know where it was going to go but you do what you can do by taking that first step whatever you can do do it it doesn't really matter Talk to someone in the bus.
Talk to someone in the plane.
Start writing letters to people.
Open up a website.
Start contributing to the Avalon Forum.
Do whatever you can do.
You know what you can do.
We don't.
And so it's intentional action coming from the highest place of contribution.
That's what's going to get us out of this mess.
And timelines can be changed.
It's not fixed.
It's not determined.
No one knows what's going to happen.
And this is goodness of knowledge.
And this is goodness of knowledge.
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