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March 31, 2008 - Project Camelot
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Project Camelot Interviews Leo Zagami - Part 2 of 3
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Some people say the Illuminati don't exist.
Well, I mean, this is an official document from the Raoul Machis Lodge, and leaves no doubt that the Illuminati not only exists, but they practice what is known as the primitive right of Memphis and Mizraim, which is the Egyptian right.
This right brings them above the 33 degrees, because the Memphis and Mizraim goes until the 99 degrees, and is basically The peculiarity of this right that, for me, made it a difficulty to stay in the Illuminati, because this right, on the contrary of the others that, okay, are corrupted politically, they have a political...
but this one is completely diabolic in its own internal belief system, and leads many of his members to become involved in Satanism.
In fact, for example, heads of the Memphis and Misery in Italy, like Roberto Negri, is involved in a satanic, anti-Christian Ordo Tempi Orientis Fraternitas Hermetica Luciferiana.
Or there is many others like him in America that have, like Michael Bertiob, involved in satanism and also close to Anton LaVey.
I found a lot of other characters here in Europe that practice the Memphis and Misery.
Well, isn't this the Bush family also involved in the Illuminati and satanism?
Sure, sure.
Each one is involved with their own orders, their own lodges, their own degree systems.
The skull and bones have their own operational way of working, their own legends, the Knights of Uluga, a specific kind of initiation where you have the Devil, Don Quixote and the Pope.
That should already tell you who are really the figures here.
that are in charge of the real power, because the Pope is sitting on the center, and even if George G. Bush likes to dress up as Popey when he's down on the skull and bones, he's not a Pope.
So, and he's not the devil.
Okay, but is the Pope the devil?
No, these are the different characters that actually are enacted during the initiation of the skull.
Right, and also at Bohemian Grove as well.
Bohemian Grove is a different kind of initiation.
They like to dress up in even more fancy clothes, usually Republicans, a lot of horse.
A lot of prostitution goes on during the night.
A fake sacrifice ceremony or a real sacrifice?
Real sacrifice is at times when you have the most secretive operations that are aimed for in some way maintaining the real occult path of the structure, which is of worshipping an owl of St.
John of Nebuchadnezzar, All the characters from Bohemia.
And why Bohemia is so important?
Well, Bohemia, because then you have also from Bohemia, you have Jacob Bohem, who was himself one of the most illustrious Rosicrucians of all time.
Right, but the point of it is worldly success, is it not?
I mean, in terms of Bohemian Grove, what is their purpose?
The point for all these clubs is different.
And it's created by the people who actually have created them, and then the people on top who manipulate them for their own purpose.
Whatever is their purpose.
For example, it's to blackmail people, their practices might be very twisted.
If it is to create a fraternal bond of death, like the order of death in the skull and bones, then a human sacrifice is required to melt that bond together so those people feel connected by a secret that is impossible to believe.
And who becomes sacrificed in this situation?
Is it a child?
Now, what happens in the Illuminati by their own instructions is an ancient practice that was also done by the rabbis, the most orthodox rabbis since ancient times in Israel.
And this is to create a fetus and sacrifices among the members of the congregation and eat this fetus.
Really?
Well, this is really what also Crowley described in the higher degrees of his Ordo Templi Orientis, and what is practiced, as I said, comes from an old also Jewish practice, but where did they take this kind of practice?
These practices are born from ancient times, from their captivity in Babylonia to their permanence in Egypt.
Egypt is the example of what the Illuminati are.
Now I will show you also, later, a picture of how the lodge is here in Oslo.
We went there.
Oh, you went?
Yes.
Okay, but inside.
I have a picture of the temple inside.
Okay, very good.
Yes, we were not allowed inside.
What I can tell you about the temple inside is they are called a Christian Masonic Order, okay?
There are only Christians in it.
Many Freemasons around the world are actually horrified by the fact that here in Scandinavian Freemasonry can be so racist that can't include The Jews, the Hindu, the Muslims, because of their own Christian order of Knights Templars, because that's what they claim to be.
You saw their cross in the symbol when you went to the headquarters, and the lion.
Yes.
And a red cross and a lion.
Uh-huh.
But you're saying that this is...
So this is an emphasis on...
The emphasis outside is on Christianity.
But if you go inside their temple, on top you will notice this symbol.
Sure.
That is nothing of Christian origin.
You will notice that the temple inside what is the Swedish rite, one of the most esoteric and most occult rites of Freemasonry, which is practiced here in Norway.
It's practiced in the whole of Scandinavia.
So that means Norway, Sweden, Denmark, also practiced in part of Germany, practiced in Iceland, and also in parts of Finland.
This specific right, the Swedish right, horrified me by their hypocrisy, because on one side they portray themselves as good Christians to the community, on the other side they are practicing pagan beliefs.
Which are completely incompatible with the belief in one God.
That's why Mohammed's peace and blessings be upon him came.
Because the Christians were already worshipping gods.
They left the true path of Jesus already seven centuries after Jesus came.
The Christians were already worshipping other things.
Including them with Christianity, having a wrong perception of Christianity.
The same with the Jews.
They started to worship something different when Moses went just up the mountain.
Why?
Because it's a tendency in humankind to have the worship for these entities that can give you terrestrial power.
We were talking about Anunnaki, we were talking about Nephilim, but there is this These entities come from other dimensions, other places in this universe.
They can cross over into this dimension if we evoke them, if we call them.
And also the weak, the ill, the sick of mind, as described by Eliphas Levi in the Book of Transcendental Magic, they can become easily Possessed by these demons and become their zombies in a way.
That's why also we have the zombie character which is created in voodoo.
They give him a very strong poison that completely burns the brain of the character and makes him possessed by this entity.
Well, this is also mind control, is it not?
It's mind control.
But that's why you will find that most of the people in the mind control sectors of the intelligence units, the people who are taking control of the psyops operations, they are occultists.
Because occultism and black magic is the most ancient form of military tool known to mankind from the ancient times.
So this is, yes, to manipulate.
And also this is Pharaonic.
I'm against, since I, in June 2006, participated first to a meeting in Monte Carlo on the 1st of June.
Then I went to San Cerbone on the 2nd and 3rd of June.
I was in San Cerbone, a monastery near Lucca.
And then, after that, I left and went to Livorno, and at the military academy of Livorno, I had a very illuminating meeting with Giorgio Ugo Ballestriere at the military academy, because he's a military, he's part of the naval of the military.
I was with him for a whole day, after a long time that we knew each other, I really understood what these people were up to.
It was illuminating for me.
To understand that they were totally taking advantage of me and at this time they wanted me to infiltrate the organization of my wife.
My wife is part of a Muslim organization that was co-founded by his father.
And they know that this organization is a very big organization, very powerful, we count millions of adepts, and for that reason they wanted me, and also it's a moderate Muslim school, the connection for them was too strong and too tempting.
They wanted to use me in order to infiltrate this Muslim organization that is especially powerful in Turkey.
And they are very interested in Turkey for various reasons.
For that, Giorgio Balestieri has been with another guy called Can Soyak, which is a Turkish What's the purpose?
Why is Turkey of such interest?
Very important for the control of the whole Caucasus region, for the ex-Soviet republics, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, all this side of things is actually now pretty much under the control of Turkey.
Because Turkey was able, after the fall of the Soviet Union, to build schools, to build a link with these republics, that some of them have also oil.
And for that reason it's very important that you have the control of a very rich area and very tactical, very important for the Americans, for the New World to be in control.
For that reason, in 2000, it was, I think, April 2000 and...
I don't know if it was 2004, 2006, when they came together with a special group of illuminati meeting In Ankara, in Turkey, under the Roderi Club.
So this meeting is recorded, you can go and check it out.
Comandante Giorgio Ugo Balestieri did an invocation to the One God and whatever he was...
Covering up everything with a nice bail of, we're doing it for peace between religions, for...
But in reality what?
The guy is selling weapons, the guy is making money, the guy is interested in Northern Iraq, the guy is interested in...
Because also there is Northern Iraq, you have Turkey there, you have a lot of interest, and George Hugo Ballesteri has been personally involved in dealing with Northern Iraq and making business in Northern Iraq.
We cancel it.
The Vatican must also be interested in oil if they're interested in weapons.
Ah, oil is fundamental.
It's oil, weapons, and that's it.
And then you have the banks.
Oil and weapons are fundamental.
I didn't mention the oils until now because I thought that was...
So obvious, right?
Obvious.
But the whole fact that they went to Iraq is just to take their oil in Afghanistan to have control over the heroin.
Okay, but what about free energy?
What about free energy?
Because are you aware of free energy?
Do you know what it is?
Sure, sure, sure.
And the Vatican is basically keeping hold of this scientific knowledge so that it doesn't get dispersed, so that people don't get free from oil.
Yeah, but let me tell you why.
Let me tell you why.
The thing is that this problem started, as I said, with Giordano Bruno nearly 400 years, more than 400 years ago, and that problem was the certain physical, but also metaphysical knowledge, scientific knowledge that could revolutionize humankind, could not be manifested on humankind without creating also a change in their belief system.
Right.
So the Catholic Church would no longer be in power, the Illuminati would not be necessary, right?
If you don't depend on them economically, you're not materially, you're not tied to them spiritually either, right?
The fact that they have control over certain things and that you are consuming those things is essential for this materialistic society that we have in place.
This materialistic society is a reflection of The end of time scenario of the Kali Yuga, the last part of the Kali Yuga.
Kali Yuga, this specific time frame describing the Hindu mythology, is a very dark period in which there is very little light, very few masters to be seen on the horizon.
René Guénon himself, a very great initiate of Freemasonry, of the Illuminati, abandoned everything and became a Shaikh and went to Cairo and became Muslim, alhamdulillah.
Why?
Because there was a reason.
He had to save himself for what he had been involved.
In fact, I invite everybody to read René Guénon, because even if he's a great traditionalist, in a way, he was Catholic, but then he transformed himself for a reason.
He saw what they were doing in the occult.
He saw the corruption in the Church and in all these groups that were surrounding the Church.
For example, today we have Gnostic churches that claim to have some apostolic succession going back to the time of Christ.
They are all under the control of the Vatican.
Even the Gnostics?
All the Gnostics.
I can give you information, very detailed information, about how the Vatican and the Jesuits keep an eye on all the Gnostic movements, on every wandering bishop.
People like Stefan Heller, that I met personally, they are completely subject to the Vatican and to Freemasonry, being himself a 32 degree Freemason, Stefan Heller.
And he represents one of the biggest Gnostic traditions these days in the United States.
Bishop Heller, yeah, he does how it is, he's a very kind of Germanic character, yeah, but he wants himself, he's a really typical Illuminati scum.
I mean, if I have to say scum, it's scum, because these people are Nazis.
Their approach is Nazi, but it's camouflaged in a way that they're always pro-Jewish.
So they're, no, no, no, but we, you know, we support Israel.
They can't be.
But they are, in reality, Nazis, and Israel itself is acting as a Nazi because of them, you know.
Right.
So how does Zionism play into this?
Because you're not talking about the Jewish people only.
You're talking about Zionism as a religion, right?
I don't have anything against the Jewish people because myself I have close relatives, even Jews.
I don't have problem with the Jewish people.
The Jewish people are actually chosen by God for a specific purpose.
That's not the ultimate...
So how does Zionism play into the whole Illuminati story?
The religion of Abraham got corrupted during the course of time.
Certain families got corrupted.
And they also mingled with the Vatican for 2,000 years in Rome.
They have been the most ancient Jewish community in Rome.
In this picture, we're talking about the Jews.
They're a great influence, their great power, and they really have great power.
Even in the oligarch movement in Russia, they're very powerful.
In this picture we have here Senator Sergei Gurdjieff, famous Russian billionaire, senator, close friend of Vladimir Putin, and one of my close friends for a time, because he was the representative of the Illuminati,
of the Grupo de Ur in Moscow, and one of the senior intelligence operatives at all levels regarding the research of the Holy Grail and all that matters for the Russian government.
He gave me a gift, which after I would like to show you, which is a mask brought from Tibet.
Illuminati likes to give this kind of gift, ancient artifacts, this kind of stuff.
And this peculiar artifact was very interesting because it was given by the 13th Dalai Lama, As a gift to Nikolai II, the Tsar of Russia, because their intention was to subject Nikolai II to the Illuminati control of Tibet, because the Tibetans, the Tibetan monks, are the Illuminati of the East, and they are seen as the Illuminati of the East.
And this mask was given to me as a gift by Senator Sergei Gordiev, Which I showed you before in the picture earlier on.
Yes.
Senator of the Russian Federation and famous Russian billionaire.
Right.
And kind of Indiana Jones of the situation.
I like to go find this kind of thing.
But actually this was given, if I don't get it wrong, to his uncle, who was at the time mediating for the conversion of Nikolai II to the 13th Dalai Lama.
Unfortunately that didn't happen.
We all know how things went then in Russia.
But we managed to preserve this famous artifact and to bring it out of Russia in 2002 was quite an adventure.
I dare you.
Thanks God.
It's very powerful.
It's very powerful.
One motivation, I ask Sergei, why are you giving me such a gift?
I mean, it's a quite incredible gift of historical value, obviously for him maybe, but it was very important.
I think that the Russians really want to get rid of it.
Because apparently it has, it's connected to a very powerful entity.
That it transports it with it and it has the power to emanate it.
The Russians basically want to get out of the borders.
I see.
So did you purge it?
Well, I myself obviously have to be very careful with it and with the use of it.
But definitely it's under my close surveillance and I have it.
So that's it.
I'm going to keep it.
Okay.
It's a very peculiar mask, very peculiar.
the 14th Dalai Lama the present Dalai Lama used it when he has his own divinator who went into trance with this mask before the Chinese arrived and warned them to go away so in a way saved the life of Dalai Lama this tradition as we were saying is part of the Bon tradition, is the shamanic tradition of Tibet, which is more ancient than the Buddhist tradition.
But it's said to be dominated by the Buddhists and by the Red Caps of Tibet.
In the middle we have a Jew, Lazarus.
Lazarus is, his wife is the head of basically the customs in Russia, so you can't get in Russia without the wife of...
She's the head of all customs operating, especially in Moscow, and he himself, an oligarch, working for the oligarchs, is of...
Georgian origin, but he's a Jew and he explained me how the Jews richly transformed themselves into the aristocracy of the communist establishment and managed to survive also the persecution of Stalin if they simply worked with the establishment in a certain way.
Nowadays, they're very strong.
But, for example, Senator Zegelguldev officially objects the Zionists.
But when this other guy here gave him a $900,000 watch in front of my eyes, he accepted it.
And why you say, why a senator from the Russian Federation should accept such a gift?
Because corruption in Russia is made with watches.
There is one million dollar watches, once I had three of them on my table, and they're used for corruption by the Illuminati so they can Keep on the oligarchy and all their practices.
How does Zionism serve the Illuminati's interest?
You're talking about their vision of Armageddon because it is written so in the Bible?
Absolutely.
The Zionism, you see, is a corrupt branch of what is really the religion of Abraham.
That was already a corrupt For a long time, and tried too with Zionism, especially coming out of Ukraine, to gather power.
But the Zionist families, like for example the Rothschilds, who have been so important for the implementation of Zionism, are themselves also working linked to the Vatican, because they are Knights of Malta.
So you would say, how is possible?
Zionism and the Vatican.
It doesn't really fit in.
One should oppose the other.
While publicly it might seem so, in reality they are completely connected and I think that John Paul II made this quite evident when he called them our oldest brothers and embraced with so much love the rabbi in Rome, which I repeat, Rome is the oldest Jewish community in the world, so connected to Rome you have also this...
and they worked for the...
I saw Mossad agents in Rome From the Sonino family, which I used to work with, involved with La Bande della Magliana, which was this fearsome gang of people involved with the P2, with the intelligence service killers that were doing all kinds of Weapons, cocaine, heroin, all kinds of business with them.
And they were receiving every year a letter from Andreotti, which is a senior Democrat Christian, very well known in the Atlantic Pact in the NATO. Andreotti is one of the key people in Italy, also as a politician still nowadays.
He has been Prime Minister for many times.
And he was a senior Opus Dei and P2 member.
But working with these people, I saw the power of the Zionist establishment.
For example, George Hugo Ballesteri wanted to do an Isaac Rabi award.
And I said, why?
But because under the influence of the Zionistic element that is always there, and they like to go in Jerusalem, they have a specific place under what is the Temple of Solomon, still nowadays they do this practice, they have a high priestess of Melchizedek.
Now this high priestess is not really a woman, it's a man-woman.
He's a priest that used to be a man and a priest and a monk, I think, working for the Vatican.
He's one of the biggest experts of the Bible.
He's now called Michela Mercenaro.
He had a sex change.
Approved by the Vatican.
Now she's working in some kind of university officially.
In reality, she's working also for the police in their investigations in the occult and occult murders, but she's the high priestess of Melchizedek of the order of Zion and celebrates these occult rituals in Jerusalem with the elite there and her function is to be androgyne because half man,
half woman She can have this Zionist element is working at times it has been opposing the Vatican but at the end has decided especially after the Second World War to merge and it couldn't be otherwise because after the Second World War the Vatican became an American club also the Freemasons didn't exist inside the Vatican as lodges but after the Second World War they were granted four lodges a whole grand lodge
set up In the Vatican, with their own different logic, with an official charter coming from America, you know?
So the thing is, there was obviously an embracing also from the Vatican of what they have always embraced, which has been to be themselves Head of these aristocratic families, themselves also involved with the Zionist families.
Why?
Because they were the bankers, so they had to be somebody who had to sponsor other people.
There was a bank, and the bank is a very important thing for the Vatican.
In fact, the Yor, La Finanza dello Yor, the finances of the Yor, are fundamental for the Vatican.
And we go back to the disinformation of before, Secretum Omega.
Why is so important that people have to realize that the Vatican is hiding something?
But what is actually Vatican hiding?
Vatican is hiding books and important rituals of evocation.
What about the third secret of Fatima?
Is the Vatican hiding this or no?
The thing is this, the Vatican constructs miracles for their own purpose, to establish a place where people go, spend money on hideous things like Little Cross, make cash, a couple of holy waters, then so you have.
Lourdes, Fatima, then you have Padre Pio now.
So in other words, it's just a show to make money.
Is this your...
there is no secret?
No, there is secret that at times these people have been in contact with entities.
Okay?
Or they have opened an interdimensional door with an entity that has come through and has revealed them certain secrets.
For them certain things, certain prophecies are very important because at times, and that's why the Jesuits are in Mount Graham also with the Astronomic Observatory, They have to calculate exactly because they want to avoid sometimes that the prophecy comes against them in any way.
If the prophecy becomes enemy of their own project, then at that point that prophecy has to be scrapped off the map.
The prophecy can't come into being.
Why?
Because they are there making sure that that kid, if he's born that day, dies!
Why?
Because that kid will be an enemy of their order.
And it's already for them...
So, there has been...
Who is the Black Pope?
Black Pope is the general of the Jesuits.
As I said, his power is very strong because the sieve, as we mentioned before, is just a small creation of what is the Jesuit intelligence apparatus, which is very important.
Okay, but who is he, specifically?
What's his name?
Adolf Nicholas is the Black Pope now.
He's known.
Okay, and is he going to be the Black Pope of Revelation?
No, no, no.
Then you have the Black Pope of Revelation.
That doesn't need to be...
There is...
You see?
There is a confusion here.
There is always an element of confusion.
And why?
Because when you have two elements, then you usually choose the wrong one, and the right one gets left untouched.
So everybody's focused.
The Black Pope of Revelation is the Black Pope of the Jesuits.
Me personally, which I know the Jesuits very well, as I have demonstrated, and as I know the Freemason very well, and the whole apparatus, I can tell you that the Black Pope is not the general...
I mean, it is the general of the Jesuits, and he's very important, but he's not the one of Revelation, because the one of Revelation is black.
He's from Nigeria.
He's already a cardinal.
He's already been put in the post that used to be of Ratzinger.
He's already there, ready to become the next pope.
And his name is?
I used to remember his name, but I'm sorry, it's happening by name sometimes.
But it's very easy to find.
What is his role in 2012?
Is this the year of Revelation, 2012?
The important thing is that they reflect the prophecies, they make them happen for their own advantage.
Now the Jesuits, with their own black pope, which is obviously the figure of the Jesuit general, which is very important, I don't, I never underestimate that figure because it's a very important one, As sometimes powerful as the Pope, because they have been so important as an order, because they have the esoteric knowledge, and they have the knowledge and access to those interdimensional doors.
That's why Haugams, I mean, it's very natural here.
Haugams, a Jesuit is in an astronomical observatory in Mount Graham in Arizona, or is in the library in the Vatican.
If you can't check a book in the Secret Archive of the Vatican because they are there protecting.
At the same time they are in charge of an observatory.
This should make it very clear that when they deliberately spread through this guy Barbaro, this disinformation regarding the Secretum Omega and Planet X, we should at least question it.
Okay, what is the purpose, though?
Barbato, we have just interviewed a journalist who has worked with Barbato in getting his information out.
Okay, Lucas Cantenberlo.
And basically, this is a very open, innocent, genuine, honest guy.
But the Jesuits take advantage of a fool like him in two minutes.
You have to be a little bit awake about this.
Okay, and is this true of Barbado as well?
Because Barbado is now out of the job.
He cannot get work.
He, you know, all because of this.
Barbado, by his own assertions, okay, he says, I, in the year 2000, or 2001 actually to be more precise, came into contact with the Jesuits.
Right.
I mean, if I come into contact with a Jesuit, actually, I make a picture, a photo, I put it on the wall, I met a Jesuit friend, that's it!
Check it out, because whatever comes out of...
Supposedly, he came forward from SIV, he was not supposed to be communicating...
No, no, no, first of all...
It's secret, supposedly.
No?
There is no, he called it, so a rebel of the system within the sieve in the Vatican.
Right.
It doesn't exist such a thing.
Forget it.
But you're a rebel.
No, no, I'm out.
I'm not in.
But you were a rebel.
You were inside during some point when you were in this.
I went to the office in Rome where he was accredited and where I saw that he was a legitimate source.
Right.
That's it.
That's it.
You think, with my revelations now, I can still go in an office so high up, or be in that office.
I'm doing my revelations and it's very clear for everyone.
Actually, it's clear also for the Jesuits.
In fact, the thing is, they arrested me three times in Norway.
They tortured me, injected me, beaten me up, put in prison cell, they did all kinds of things.
How did you get out?
Thanks God I got out because the first two times I repented towards the illuminati system and who was my superiors and I said okay sorry I'm gonna Not go fair.
But here you are, you're not...
No, no, no, no, wait.
Then the fair time was when I literally came out of the system, or came out of the group, was after June 2006, I told you, because of the involvement that they wanted me to have with my wife's organization, I said, okay, no, I started to accuse them of being themselves a fraud,
that their interreligious gatherings, because here we are talking, and my documentation that I will show you, about interreligious gatherings, that were organized in monasteries around Italy for the specific purpose of trying to bring closer Islam Or the illuminati with the concept of Islam and be able to have also what happened many centuries ago,
a meeting between the knighthoods of the East and the West.
So basically between the Islamic shilveric orders and...
Is this bad?
No, this was great!
This was all great.
Right.
But the problem was that there was people like Giorgio Balestrieri in it, that they were only involved because they want to make a buck by selling a few weapons and other technology.
I didn't know that I was covering up for certain crooks.
I see.
The moment I realized that this was only crookery done upon me, that I was the victim of these people.
Right.
That, for example...
But you say you were tortured.
What?
Please tell me.
How did you get away?
Here.
You have a very...
It's written here.
Okay, Bill.
For example, on the left side you have a documentation of a meeting held in Bologna, Villa Leona, Okay, now Villa Leona is the headquarters of the Opus Dei in Bologna,
and this was a meeting with the Illuminati, Roberto Negrini, you can see his name very clearly, which is also officially an anti-Christian, a Satanist, but in the Opus Dei headquarters, you know, like Holy Water and Devil, all together in one group.
You see the symbols of the universal unity of the Monte Carlo Lodge here, and you see clearly the reference and also the name of Carlo Maria Baserga, which is the head there of the Opus Dei and been involved in the business that the Opus Dei did in the port of Genova.
Also, recently, as recently, last June, this came up in an investigation of the police in Italy.
But they have scrubbed off my name out of the phone interception, but I have photos with all those people that I can show you and my involvement.
But also here, watch here.
This is another invitation.
Now this was supposed to be the meetings of meetings.
This meeting here was supposed to be held in September in the monastery of Santa Scholastica, very important monastery.
You can find this monastery on the first scene of Omen 3.
Okay.
The film Omen Free, you can find it in this monastery.
This monastery was the last place where Ratzinger talked before becoming Pope.
In this monastery we were supposed to meet with my wife also there, representing her Islamic organization, and with Gabriele Mandelkahn, who is a Sufi Gerai Helveti, and with these people, We were also, with Dr.
Aldo Rapicauli, which is a high-level freemason, celebrate the Giordano Bruno, which we mentioned before, death, there, it's written there.
Okay, but you're still telling me that you got away.
You're telling me that...
This one in September never happened.
It was cancelled because I, in June, walked out of the organization.
I understand.
But you said you've been arrested.
We know that you've been harassed.
Yes.
Right?
And I'm just asking you...
What happened, for example?
How do you get away from the Illuminati?
Okay.
What happened was...
I needed to get away saving my life.
So the only way to get away saving my life was to eventually reveal and keep safely with me this information and reveal it to the appropriate sources so I could defend myself.
Who are the appropriate sources?
People like you, people that came forward.
The general public.
What happened was this.
In October, September of 2006, after my kid was born and I recovered from the arrest, which was pretty mind-breaking and I managed to Get out.
Why?
Because I managed to prove to the authorities here in Norway that what I was saying was true regarding my movement in certain groups that they were deliberately trying to attack me and that there was even a guy, a doctor A guy called Nicolae de Matos Fritzvold, who is the head of a mental hospital here in Norway, that in reality was related to a general Fritzvold and also himself a master of the Memphis and Mizraim.
I have on my diploma of the Memphis and Mizraim, you find I have his name written very clearly.
And basically, we find that this guy is an occultist, practicing voodoo acts or whatever, you can check on the internet for yourself, and he's also a doctor.
How can a doctor in a mental hospital be...
But what he did was very evil.
The moment I didn't agree with him, he left the phone, go and lock him up.
But the way I showed this documentation at the end to the previous sources, the director of the hospital there was a guy who was not the one the year before, who I knew was working with the CA, but was another guy, and this time he didn't know really what was happening.
I could see that he was only put from on top in that situation.
I could show my documentation and get out of that situation.
So I got out and I said, how can I save my life?
Because, okay, for the moment they are not arresting me anymore.
Right, right.
I'm gonna come out with a website, I'm gonna scan a few things, documents, open a blog.
That's happened with Illuminati confessions at Squarespace.com.
Squarespace.com was a blog kind of situation and after a month I started to have a lot of problems because they received piles of complaints and of threats to shut down the website.
So on the 6th of December 2006 I was shut down.
I was shut down.
All my information was risking to be lost because I had to work on it.
I'm not a genius of the computer.
I just scrambled together all these things.
But the internet was already born.
And thanks God, people had downloaded, some friends, some people, I don't know, on the internet, had downloaded my material.
They managed to retrieve it, to transfer it on the website in Italy of a freemason, Daniele Dal Bosco, A Freemason, though, that was himself conscious of what they were doing, and he himself said, I want to support you, because I think that, you know, he saw the injustices I was subject to also within Freemason.
So he said, okay, Leo, we open Illuminati Confessions at web, which is Illuminati Confessions.webfriend.it, which is still in existence, And we go on with your revelations.
Not even 24 hours after they shut down my SquarePace account, the police came through the door of my house with two policemen and two social workers to take my kids.
I was living in the center of Oz at the time.
My wife was in the house.
They probably thought I was alone.
So they broke in.
But when they saw them, my wife was there, they said, okay, bring it to the other room, we want to...
Bring it to the other room?
I said, what?
What do you want to do to me?
Only because I have a website you want to arrest me.
Am I not free to do what I want?
I said, my dear friends, in the last 24 hours I have spent my website to Italy, I said.
If you now arrest me, kill me, do whatever I want, the website is going to stay alive.
It's now on the net.
There is no way you can shut it down.
Ah!
But the police said, if you continue with this website, we can, you know, have your kids taken from you and you have to calm down with this stuff.
How dare the police of Norway, and I said once again to the camera and to the people of Norway, shame on you, come to my door, come to my house, threaten me to take my kids because they can't take the truth upon Per Christian Kroc, ex-secretary of the Ministry of Defense, who I saw in open lodge worshipping the Book of the Dead and the still of revealing of Alistair Crowley dressed in a black cloak,
I saw Tron Carey Westby, the head of the Defense Command in Norway, in their lodges and also in Masonic lodges where I met him.
And this guy is the head of the Defense Command in Norway of the medical staff.
I will show you after his time.
So you got away because you went public.
I went public, I went public, and even at the beginning they threatened me, at that point, after I said to them, listen, even if you threaten me now, I said openly to the policeman, and also my wife went to the social workers, because we had to go to the social workers after, otherwise they would take her kids, said very clearly, my husband is not going to stop with what he's doing.
He will carry on.
If this is a free country, he has to do this, and he has to be able to do this.
At that point, they couldn't arrest me anymore, like before, or torture me for hours, because at that point I would go immediately on the net.
As soon as I was out, put everything, and finally I had an audience.
Right.
Obviously the problem was, who was my audience?
The problem was that my audience obviously maybe was not judged as serious by many people because the alternative media sometimes is not judged as serious, but for me at least it was a meme to spread my information and to be able to protect myself.
And they took this very seriously.
In fact, what happened two weeks later, I was invited to Livorno on 21st of December to a P2 Lodge In Livorno, I have pictures of that meeting also, by their Grand Master, asking me, all in a nice kind way, offering me nice dinner, to please stop with those revelations.
Oh, really?
But the guy who asked me, Grand Master Mauro Lazzari and Luigi Piazza, because I refused, They were punished themselves and in June, just now 2007, the police raided their headquarters of the Masonic Orders in this documentation in Livorno and it was the biggest scandal since the P2 because it's connected also to the Christian Democratic Party because their lodge,
where I was meeting, was the headquarters of the Christian Democratic Party, UDC. of Cesar, which is the party close to the Vatican.
So, obviously, you don't need to be a genius to link 1 plus 1 and 2, you know.
You have a masonic party in the headquarters of the Christian Democratic Party.
These people, the Christian Democratic Party, has been working with the NSA, the CA, for 50 years in the Gladio, Gladio's secret operation.
These people, Balestieri, Ezio Giunchia, Basia, these people all belong to Gladio.
Gladio is a secret operation against communism that has been very important because 9-11 has been The same kind of operation that the Italians have seen over and over again in the strategic years of tension, we call them, in the 70s,
when we had the killings of the station of Bologna, of Piazza Fontana, all these killings were organized So who was it?
It was the Americans and the Vatican, you know, who was it?
And so was 9-11 also the Americans and the Vatican?
Absolutely, and the Zionists.
And the Mossad.
The Mossad is very important in this.
In fact, and also the...
So is the idea to create a...
They reflect a prophecy, because in the Zohar, at a specific point of the Zohar, it's written that in the city of the big tower, in the specific date, the 21st day of Inkovelul of the Jewish kind, that was the 11th of September, there would be this disaster, and the tower would fall down.
It's written in the Zohar.
Zohar, for the Kabbalists, is the most holy text for the Jewish Kabbalists.
So, they read, knock their heads on the wall, and reflect what is there.
Now, as we have the Mossad, the Zionist element, the Jewish occult element, which is very important because the Kabbalah is born out of them, But born originally where?
From Egypt.
And the same happened because we don't have to see only Christianity or Catholicism as coming only from Judaism.
No, that's very wrong.
We have to see Christianity as coming from a mix of pagan religions that the Emperor Constantine put together, including the cult of Isis, of Osiris, of Mithras, of all these...
But this was from Atlantis, was it not?
All originally from Atlantis, but Atlantis and many other Atlantis civilizations before that, because the thing is that we have only knowledge about maybe one ancient civilization before ourselves, but there is many others that have been eliminated and we know nothing about it.
Leo, I want to ask you, Do the Masons or the Illuminati have ancient texts coming directly from Atlantis?
Do they have information about this?
This is the legend that really managed to throw the inter-churching with this kind of thing, so it's quite interesting.
The Book of Thought or some kind of ancient tablets that come from Atlantis were supposed to be hidden in the pyramids, hidden there, hidden...
There is definitely Stuff that comes from ancient times.
And there is specific groups within the Illuminati, like, for example, the Gruppo di Tedes, a group of Thibs, which is a specific group within the Illuminati, which takes care only of the ancient artifacts.
And these must be in the Vatican Library, are they not?
In the Vatican Library, we have a lot of ancient artifacts, ancient books, very rare texts, that could revolutionize the thought of mankind.
But as I said, because we will have to go to the next stage of existence in one way or another, the Vatican wants to adapt.
So how do they adapt?
They adapt with Corrado Balducci and the whole alien revolution coming into the Vatican, Segretum Omega and a couple of your souls and everybody's happy because the next step of brainwashing is to have you believe that Jesus is some kind of Prince of Sirius that comes on this planet as a high priest and he's himself an alien being or some kind of alien high priest from Sirius.
Sirius is very important.
We don't have to joke with Sirius.
We don't because Sirius is Sirius in every way.
The word says it.
It's in the Universal Apparatus, the Eye of God.
So, you know, you have a bunch of sheep, which are stars.
No, no, watch.
Shepherd, and then you have a dog.
Now, the dog star is serious.
It's the dog of this, you know, a lot of stars running around, but they're sheep.
And then you have a shepherd, and you have a shepherd's dog.
So this is how it works in the universe.
Now we should go back to reacquire in modern times the concept of analogy, of not logic but analogy.
Why?
Because logic is actually created by mankind.
It was created by mankind at the time of ancient Greece, and then filtered through our civilization through to us but in ancient times analogic was equally as important so by rediscovering the analogic method the parallels between the fact that everything in the universe works as a mirror as a reflection are a reflection of the one big bang the first and then
everything else is a reflection so there is a constant loop of this reflection in many different forms Infinite loop that goes through the universe and we find in this cup, we find in this legal apparatus.
Sure, and then you're talking about symbolism, and you're talking about the use of symbols is magic.
And again, you're back in the circle.
Yeah, but as I said, if we want the next stage, then we have to acknowledge the signs of God.
Okay, no problem.
That has to be done, because sooner or later mankind will have to come out of this ignorance.
But at the moment, what we are having is just some substitutes, especially in the New Age movement or cults that have been created lately.
Okay, but what about science?
And what about the idea that there might be Planet X or some other planet out there?
Is this completely a figment of people's imagination based on something that the Illuminati wants to put out there for their purposes of revelation and Armageddon?
The mightness.
From my experience of the whole Zakaria siege, like I mentioned before, from my experience and from what Barbaro and then the Secretum Omega and all this information coming out of the alternative media, It's clear that they want to control the alternative media.
And they want to control also our own myths.
Nibiru, this planet of ancient times, from Sumerians, they call Nibiru in Sumerian times, planet X. Coming back, you know, there where it comes, these Anunnagis have dropped out from this planet in two hours and have...
There is definitely an ancient time in which we have been merging with other creatures from the universe.
This is described clearly in the Book of Enoch.
But who were these creatures?
These creatures were the rebels that were escaping, the rebel angels that were escaping from God, in a way.
What we have here, in this present situation, is that we think they are, in reality, interbreeds between mankind and aliens.
This is the biggest disinfo that we can get.
Okay, if you believe that's disinfo, then let's talk about underground bases.
Why do we have underground bases, since you say that in your experience they do exist?
In my experience they do exist, and they do exist also people that are particularly inclined in working those underground bases because you can experiment bacteriological, nuclear, and all kinds of devices that are not possible to be experimented over ground.
And also to experiment the most evil of the evil, because mankind nowadays is playing God, playing with genes, mixing a cow with a dog, with a human, with a lion,
Okay, so you're saying genetic engineering, you're saying hidden atomic bombs, whatever, experimentation, but why are they building cities underground?
Cities underground are built for the disaster scenario, the doomsday scenario.
Well, is there such a thing?
What is that?
Is this a real scenario or is this fake?
From my experience in the Illuminati, the moment in which 2012 was mentioned was either, because 2012 was the 21st of December, the peculiar date in which a ritual had to start, a Pythagoric ritual, because Freemasons trace their ancestry to Pythagoras as their Pythagoras, yes.
For them, the fact that this 25, 9 to 0 is the number of God and it coincides with the changing of an era has to be celebrated with a ritual that reflects above below.
So on the 21st of December you're going to all see them there with their influence.
It's a holy day, it's the winter equinox.
But do we see...
No cataclysm?
The whole pyramid will be together.
For the first time, every single cult will be celebrating one way or another this specific day.
Because we are moving the whole of our consciousness into a different part of the universe here.
So this is a positive vision of the future, isn't it?
I have definitely a positive vision of the future, but I also have some questions regarding how the so-called Illumina, the top, really are taking things.
Because when it was about 2012, they were really driven by uncertainty, and their tendency was to build an underground bunker to protect their matter interests.
Than to really grasp that this could be an evolutionary stage to go Of consciousness, a change of consciousness.
You don't need an underground base for a change of consciousness.
No, no, no, but for them this is a business operation.
You know, I understand.
The moment in which there is something happening on top which is uncontrollable, a nuclear device will be triggered, the whole place will be very dangerous and underground bases are required.
So you're saying the Illuminati are planning to let loose nuclear bombs?
Around the time of 2012, they are going to unleash them.
There will be some very big happenings, especially because they will be triggered by, unfortunately, very serious events that might happen around the Olympics of 2012 in England, which seems to be...
In England?
But 2012?
Okay, so what about the 2008 Olympics in China?
You know anything about that?
No.
That is my brainwashing control operation of Chinese.
Chinese represent this day the ideal government for the Illuminati, for who wants to do business.
Because the Illuminati, including these people here, I've shown the picture before, they all meet up in Shanghai doing business.
One of the rituals, which I'm going to show you a picture after, if I remember, is the ritual of the ancient Chinese tea, which is not a tea, but it's a kind of specific drink that they bring from a little village that it tells you, gives you mortality, but actually gives you a lot of energy.
It's like 20 ginseng all together, or like a line of cocaine.
It's a specific water they bring from this village and a specific plant which they make this tea and everybody was enjoying it in Moscow much more than any drug.
And I found this very interesting and they were doing the classic traditional Chinese tea ritual, you know, that was the...
But what is the admiration of the West for Chinese is especially their absence of any form of democracy, the complete control of their society.
For America being like China is a dream nowadays.
Why?
Because the American dictators that are implementing now their so-called Patriarch Act see in China the ideal place where nobody can actually object to anything.
You can't have more than one child.
But at the same time, this also gives the Americans, and the people at the fake opposition, because America is not a real opposition to China, forget it, they want to make cash with China, they want to make cash with Iran, Iran wants to make cash with America, cash with China.
Sudan, who cares?
Make the cash.
Couple of Hollywood fans running and they're full.
Bullshit!
People are idiots, you know?
Giving money to these idiots and putting them in power.
My god, I don't understand.
Democracy is the biggest illusion of all time.
It doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist.
And the division between church and state is a fake.
It doesn't exist.
It's all linked.
All linked and...
And it's all run by the Vatican and the Jesuits at the top of the pyramid.
I know.
I forgot to mention all the Zionists, which are very powerful in this whole enclave, which represent the old aristocracy of the, you know, the old Jewish families, the old aristocracy.
Why?
Because these aristocratic families, like for example the Queen of England, like to trace themselves back to King David.
They see themselves, including my family, the Lion family, as descendants either of Jesus or at least of King David.
So they seem to be viewing England in general a bit like the lost tribe of Israel.
So that's why you have this British Zionism and also why the aristocrats in England interpreted so much with the Jews and certain Jewish families.
So to create this whole thing, so whereby at the end you don't understand anymore who is in control of anything, because, you know, he's married with him, and he's married with him.
We are running out of time here.
One last thing.
Well, you can see, when they're giving the Nobel Prize, especially in Sweden, you have a whole table of leading Zionist Jewish family, then you have the aristocrats, everything is in order, you know, in this new world order, and it has a specific place to it.
Okay.
Well, thank you, Leo.
You're a very brave man.
Obviously, you're going up against an incredible opponent.
I think that I'm going up definitely against an incredible opponent because for certain people, they fall into the trap of becoming victims of it.
And this, I think, is happening a bit to the Barbato guy with his Segretum Omega.
It's easy to become victim of this whole These simple operations or of this mind control that is going on for certain projects.
For example, there was a guy who was deliberately made, give this information regarding the cosmic top secret level of NATO. Saying that it was linked with the recovering of...
You're talking about Robert Dean, the person we interviewed.
Yes, a guy like him.
I didn't know you interviewed him, but I heard about him many times.
I think it's the typical example of how you can fall victim of these people.
Because at that point, they give you certain information, they know they have given you this, they have showed you certain things, they have showed you just enough, okay, boom!
And then, the rest of the life, what you do?
You get kicked out of all your jobs, you get to become the victim, obviously, but at the same time, what you saw and what really you are recording, is it really true or is it a cover-up and an operation to cover up other interests by the powers that are there and by the people on top of you.
They know obviously very well how to mind control people and how to spread this information.
We said before some people call them in another way aliens, UFOs, so we should, you said it's only a matter of calling them in different ways.
Yes, but by calling them aliens and UFOs and by spreading the myth of Roswell and all that, what has happened is just that people, the modern day, the average person out there, Watching TV, gets brainwashed by all this rubbish.
And at the end of the day, he's not really understanding that there is demons, there is angels, there is God.
And if there is an end of time scenario, this is a very serious scenario, it should be taken very seriously.
Okay, that's it.
Do you have any more?
Okay, say that one more time.
And this scenario, say your last line.
This scenario is definitely very important if we are approaching the end of times and some great changes will be definitely happening.
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