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Nov. 20, 2007 - Project Camelot
01:06:22
Dan Burisch - Part 2: STARGATE SECRETS
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They were used for passing information and passing inhabitants this direction.
Oh, by other cultures coming this way, but not by us...
By P plus 45s and P plus 52s, both Orion's and J-Rod's.
The treaties were basically inflicted on us by the Orion's.
As they were enforced upon us by the Orion's that we needed to do what we needed to do when they figured out that we weren't able to handle the issue ourselves, they looked at their own history and said, huh, look at the cavemen and women.
Then I found out that because he had carried the attitude that the Magi were not closely watching anything like NEOs or the near-Earth orbiting asteroids or anything like that.
They weren't concerned about it at all.
Well then subsequently during a conversation I found out that in fact they were.
The information from her relative was in fact that they were aware that there would be an Islamic attack upon the United States as early, meaning they were aware as early as the mid-1990s that it would be coming sometime in the new millennium.
Well, right on, smack on the beam.
The Orions could trust us so much where they could hand us a cube and we misused it to the state that we misused it.
Where they then had to inflict a treaty system upon us.
But the moon is not like, you know, the most inhabitable planet.
No, but it's the place that we're allowed to be.
Right now.
Do I sound like I'm weighing my words?
That our emotions affect our state, our physical state.
That our orientation to the energies, which are available from the cosmos, if you will, They affect the state of our DNA, affect the state of our health, and they are applying that as an experimental protocol, a rubric, if you will, to change the state of the people on board so that they can sample them for biological material.
I have a question about the probabilities, Dan.
The low probability...
When you ask a question, I'm really serious.
The low probability, according to what I understand, what you said earlier, is 19%.
Is that still valid?
Because that's still playing Russian roulette with one bullet in a barrel of five.
Is it not?
Actually, it's slightly worse than that.
In all honesty, it's slightly worse than that because there's only an 85% confidence level to that 19%.
So that doesn't quite sound like we can all relax.
I don't think it's a question.
I think we need to do the right things.
And there was a correlation to the successful and unsuccessful outcomes which involved the people of the world being united in purpose for survival and for care for our world.
And that's the reason why we did this Crazy thing.
It sounded crazy.
It looked crazy.
But we did it because it was the right thing to do.
And I ended up having to send a team of people out canvassing the regular people of the world and handing flyers out stating that the time had arrived for us to pray for unity.
And I would still encourage that seriously and sincerely.
I lost people.
I was in charge of a team and Some of them died as a result, well, a couple of them from accidents, and that can happen anywhere.
But a couple of them were put to death for proselytizing.
And so I bear that on my soul now.
Put to death for proselytizing unity?
In a country where...
Meaning China?
There was in fact two deaths in China and we also lost some people in Saudi Arabia and a couple other places.
I didn't make public how many all we lost or how many all we had, but they did their jobs and the information was handed out and we did the best we could.
Anyway, you were asking about the Stargate, the possible locations and all of that.
On June 16, 2003, in RV number 0403, Deborah was requested to...
Do a remote viewing session, a Seoul one, a series of them, in fact, that she conducted.
And she found several locations.
Among them was, in fact, Voloshanka.
And she even said, to the north by the tundra, in Russia.
And in the southwest Tobiten Mountains.
I'm sorry, I'm still a little bit thinking about my men and women.
I don't know how to pronounce this.
M-O-S-J-O-E-N in Norway.
And that was a big, big hullabaloo.
There was one actually, the equipment was actually removed from there.
Syria, Turkey.
You're saying she remote viewed the locations of the Stargate?
In fact, she did.
And the reason why I... I reacted to pull this out.
In your question, number nine, it says, how many LGs were there?
How many man-made Stargates?
Where are they?
And you gave a list of possible countries.
In that list, you mentioned Bulgaria.
Right.
Well, on the second page of it, she's got the Pirine Mountains in Bulgaria listed.
So I just wanted to kind of let you know.
Thank you.
And a couple points in Egypt.
And she didn't, in fact, in this one, mention Iraq because she was working separately for Iraq.
On February the 4th of 2003, she did a special RV. It says, I came up with a following in my session.
I saw a place 10 miles south-southeast of Baghdad.
This, by the way, is a place where we ended up actually raiding and removing what they thought were rings for what they called weapons of mass destruction.
Well, there were rings, alright, but it was a different kind of weapon of mass destruction.
I pictured a big tree on the ground surface of this location.
Now think about how Saddam was finally found.
Yes.
Behind the tree, there was a hole in the ground that had a piece of wood over it.
I saw a man, looking and feeling like Saddam, have a guard lift the wood over the hole.
Saddam then entered the hole and jumped into what looked like a platform at the top of a set of stairs.
In remote viewing, I don't remote view, but in remote viewing from everything I understand from her, time...
It's mixed up, overlaid, and sometimes off-shifted.
And she clearly saw him in the spider hole.
She also indicated that she found the work area down there and, in fact, drew the work area, which they ended up finding and finding the one gate in a rack.
Interesting stuff, huh?
Yeah, absolutely.
So, we are kind of getting off the topic a little bit.
That's good.
Of Stargates and all that.
Am I causing that?
I'm sorry?
I said, am I causing that?
I hope not.
We know that Kaella escaped through a Stargate.
With your assistance, that was described in one of our last videos.
E.T. went home.
Yes, E.T. went home.
And the interesting thing about that is that you also had an experience in which you sort of fell into the Stargate and then kind of didn't go all the way, so you stayed in this reality.
Kind of.
I was expelled several yards away onto a slab of, it was either limestone or granite, I'm not really sure, or sandstone.
All I know is that it was hard when I landed on it.
And it was on the other side of the tarpaulin over, the area was separated, human ET side, for the actual staging around the Stargate.
It was a military operation.
And I ended up on the other side of the barriers, which were like raised curtains, so that the people around the area who were actual inhabitants of the area couldn't see.
And I landed on that, and I moaned or groaned or was wondering where I was, and was in fact then approached by men and guns who were very upset with me.
Okay, so you saw the inside of a wormhole, right?
I can't really say that.
There was a grey curtain, almost a misty type curtain, very similar to what I remember during the time that I was in a coma back in the 70s.
I saw certain things on the other side, but it was a flash and that was about it and nothing really remarkable to talk about.
Okay, so you never went through, all the way through.
I mean, I'm asking, did you, have you?
No, I did not end up, I do not remember ending up anywhere else.
Have you ever gone through a Stargate in your capacity?
No, no, no.
There are no rotating ring-like devices where men with military equipment walk through and meet raw on the other side and bring their nuclear weapons with them.
No, no.
Yes, I'm being derogatory towards Serpo.
Oh, I thought that we were talking about Stargate.
Well, that's what Serpo came from.
I mean, you know, this list of, well, we've got our nuclear weapon with us and all of this business.
And they could have picked something better than the name Serpo if they were going to go with it.
But Serpo, it's a reptile park in, what is it, Argentina or the Netherlands?
It's the name of a reptile park.
Uh-huh.
And I think it was picked more by the former ops who were actually putting the disinfo together.
And what they did is they just simply took a name and they turned it backwards.
It was Opress.
Okay, but there was no Stargate in Serpo, in the Serpo story, as told to people.
Okay.
Okay, but...
That's what I said.
So what I'm asking is, we have Stargates that have been decommissioned, which access time travel technology.
These Stargates, before they were decommissioned, we must assume were used.
They were used for passing information and passing inhabitants this direction.
Oh, by other cultures coming this way, but not by us going elsewhere?
By P-45s and P-52s, both Orions and J-Rods.
What about all the other...
I mean, I don't know if you're party to this, but how many other races are out there?
I am aware of one interdimensional species that won't speak with us directly and was communicating via the Orions, the P-52 Orions.
That's it.
I've been 20 years.
It's confusing to me because I've got so many people with such great certitude and I've been 20 years around these people and either they were the greatest hiders in the world even while drunk and some of them drunk and recreationally drunk and that's the way I'm best I should put that.
It comes with large amounts of money.
Sometimes they pay for products to make them feel good or whatever.
I have never...
It's been a joke.
I hate to put it this way, but a lot of the UFO community, like to them, the stories, have been a joke.
And a lot of them have been proffered by the Folkloristics Unit in Majestic.
They actually promulgated a lot of these stories.
And now they hand me the bag to come out here and go, boo, you know, sorry, the boogeyman ain't real, I guess.
The only thing that I'm aware of The P-plus 45s and the P-plus 52s, the integrates between them over the 7,000 years between them cannot be contacted per treaty.
The P-plus 52 J-Rods and Orions I'm aware of and the P-plus 45 J-Rods.
At the time the P-plus 45s were around, they were unaware that the P-plus 52 Orions, which would then be P-plus 45 Orions, even existed.
They didn't even know that they still survived at the time.
And they only found out as a consequence of coming here in the treaty negotiations.
Okay, but what about the...
You're telling me the Stargates were only used one way by...
Used two ways, but one way by transport for delegates in.
Okay.
And that was only under extreme...
Circumstances involving international uproar, where there were problems with the treaties.
Aside from that, products were exchanged back and forth, and information was exchanged.
But it was deemed too dangerous to be handing people back and forth regularly.
These things collapse, from what I understand, spontaneously.
And if it collapses and you are not out one side or in the other, you're nowhere.
Okay, so you're telling me that these people had such a conscience, they were not sacrificing Americans or other, you know, or military people to test the Stargates?
No, no.
The treaties were basically inflicted on us by the Orions.
As they were enforced upon us by the Arians that we needed to do what we needed to do when they figured out that we weren't able to handle the issue ourselves, they looked at their own history and said, huh, look at the cavemen and women.
Okay?
After we acted the way that we acted involving the cube and all of that business.
They inflicted the treaty system on us.
And they said, you will behave this way.
We don't have the ability to just take a Stargate and to step through onto the other side without violating a treaty.
They don't want us out there.
We are dangerous to ourselves.
So why would we not be dangerous to another culture?
They are sure as hell not going to let us off this planet.
Can I ask you...
Well, yes, but...
I still, believe it or not, I still have not read about what Montauk is.
And sitting here right now, I have zero clue what it even is.
Okay, that's cool.
What about the Philadelphia experiment?
You're familiar with that?
I'm familiar with the reports of the USS Eldridge.
I'm familiar with the unified field theory testing that went on.
In fact, the unified field theory testing did go on, but it made something which was, from what I understand, radar invisible, but not involving everything that I've heard all of these other movies about people going back to 1941 and prior to Pearl Harbor and all of this business and walk through the time tunnel and all of this.
The information that I've heard from the military sources, because I asked when I was in there, because I knew about the Philadelphia Experiment from way back from hearing about it.
That it was a legit experiment, that there was a legit experiment that went on, but it provided radar and visibility when it was an early cloaking system.
And it was electromagnetic cloaking.
Okay.
Now, I'm wondering what, certainly, Cayella gave you sort of...
Like hidden cards in your hand that allowed you to get information from Majestic or to trade information with Majestic such that you would learn what was going on in terms of the Stargates and various things.
And if I tell you, that means I'm telling that camera right there.
Yes.
Okay.
But if we recently, I don't know if this is in the public domain, but recently you found out that MJ-1 had not told you everything about a certain incident.
True.
Which was an incoming meteor.
It was apophis.
The big thing is the affidavit that I wrote and the dust-up that happened between he and myself was based on the fact that he said, and I told him not to lie to me again, and the reason why I told him not to lie to me again, it involved the time period where I was told to keep my mouth totally shut, because of timelines.
Then I found out that it was a bunch of garbage, basically just to manipulate me to keep my mouth shut.
And after that happened, then more votes were taken, and then I was told to talk.
I was given the orders to talk.
Yo-yo.
When that happened, I told him, don't lie to me anymore.
Tell me it's none of your damn business if you have to.
I can accept that better than being lied to.
You know, it's more honorable.
He said, fine.
Then I found out that because he had carried the attitude that the magi were not closely watching anything like NEOs or the near-earth orbiting asteroids or anything like that.
They weren't concerned about it at all.
Well then subsequently during a conversation I found out that in fact they were.
This caused a mild dust-up, which was then heightened because of information from her relative.
The information from her relative was, in fact, that they were aware that there would be an Islamic attack upon the United States as early, meaning they were aware as early as the mid-1990s that it would be coming sometime in the new millennium.
Well, right on, smack on the beam.
That made it worse.
I had told him that if he ever lied to me again, I would make him pay a price for it.
The simple price was naming him.
Okay.
But...
And after that, you know, we've sent...
There has been conversation with that particular individual since.
And everybody's okay with everybody.
I mean, you know, 20 years, more than 20 years...
I first met the gentleman at the back of the lambs in the museum, more than 20 years, since the mid-1970s.
Relationship is not going to go by the wayside over a dustbin.
Sure.
I understand.
But the reason I'm alluding to that is that here's a case where you don't know everything about what's happening.
And you haven't necessarily been clued in to everything.
No, I haven't.
We don't go both ways in Stargates, and this is what you've been told, okay?
And you are telling me that there's only two races, maybe a third that's, you know, doesn't have...
Three races plus us, maybe a fourth.
Okay.
So all I can say here is, this is interesting because we have gotten testimony from a lot of different witnesses, people who have different psychic abilities, who have come from the inside, from black ops, like our Henry Deacon, telling us that we are accessing Stargates constantly and going, in fact, between the Earth and Mars and going between the Earth and the Moon.
And possibly other places as well.
In other words, not just that we're staying out of space or out of the Stargates because the Orions tell us to.
They were used.
They were used in timeline number two to gradually access Moon and Mars.
Now there is a possibility that the information that he has or had has to do with a future timeline.
That would make sense to me on that level, but not on the level of, hey honey, let's take the kids to Olympus Mons today.
No, but how about if the military is sending equipment back and forth, etc., etc.?
The Orions could trust us so much where they could hand us a cube and we misused it to the state that we misused it.
Where they then had to inflict a treaty system upon us.
Are they running our country?
Are they running our world?
No.
No.
They're simply constraining what we're able to do.
No.
No.
We're running our own showdown here.
Meaning when I say we, I'm not talking about the common folks that are, you know, like being starved to death every day.
We're running our own show politically down here.
These statements about, well, these are mind-controlled this or that, you know, automatons working for the ETs and the government.
No, no, no, no, no.
These are good-hearted and black-hearted people, both, all fighting each other to run the geopolitical That is an honest assessment from what I've seen what's going on.
But we are constrained as to what we are allowed to do, meaning where we are allowed presently to off-world.
I understand.
You know, very nice, very nice.
We placed our hands on our hips and underdog flew the American flag on the moon and we showed ourselves so wonderful and all of that over the Soviets.
But that doesn't mean that we're quite able at this point to go and camp out for too long.
Okay, so now you're telling me why we're not theoretically, or we haven't gone back to the moon, at least overtly.
Right, we're busy throwing sticks and stones at each other.
And another reason why we cannot go back there is part of the treaty system allows us to have a certain repository set somewhere on the moon.
And that repository is presently there.
Okay.
And that is in case the T2 timeline should eventuate or there should be a geological or a global catastrophe of like size.
Okay, which is the arc, what you called the arc.
Yeah.
Okay, which from what I understand used to exist here on the planet.
Well, in several pieces.
Right.
Okay, so they took it up to the moon somehow.
Yeah, it was assembled.
It went through the Stargate?
No, no.
That was going to, in fact, they were building equipment up north from here.
And they ended up getting it about three-quarter of the way built.
I actually told Bill Hamilton about this when we were walking on the jeep road out at Frenchman Mountain one night, and he says, well, where is it going to go?
I looked like that and kind of pointed up and there the orb was setting.
He says, ah.
Okay, but you call it an arc.
Is this something that people...
Well, it's a nickname for it.
But it sounds like it's going to save creatures.
It's got genetic and tissue and other products.
From us?
Yeah.
Okay, other creatures on the planet?
Oh yes, a very good biodiversity, yes.
I see.
And it's sitting on the moon in case there's something very bad that happens down here.
Is that the idea?
Yes.
Okay.
From the moon, where does it go?
It doesn't.
Oh, really?
But the moon's not like, you know, the most inhabitable planet.
No, but it's the place that we're allowed to be right now.
Do I sound like I'm weighing my words?
Yes, yes.
Okay, well...
It's your job to ask the questions.
It's my job to answer them as honestly and as truthfully as I am able while being honorable and beneficial.
Okay.
And we do thank you for that, you know, regardless of what other people think.
Well, I mean, you know...
There's a huge amount.
I know the exact spot that the thing is setting there.
I know what it looks like.
I know how many pieces there are.
I was involved in looking at and assisting with the biospherics on it.
I know exactly where it sets.
And what happens if I say exactly where it sets and something happens to it?
Sure.
I can't take that on my back.
I understand.
Go back to the 50s here for a second.
An interesting thing happened.
We were talking about the cube and all of that and the meetings with Eisenhower and the Orions, the delegates.
An interesting thing, and I'm just referring to this, of course, Because it happens to reference from the intelligence community the appropriate event, albeit it was being said at the time during a different context.
This is referencing a hearing of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the nomination of Mike McConnell.
To be Director of National Intelligence, and this was at 2.30 p.m.
Eastern Time on Thursday, February the 1st, 2007.
And Mr.
McConnell, the Honorable Vice Admiral, said the following, quote, Senator, some years ago, I think 50s, 60s, There was a battle in the community with regard to authorities for signals intelligence.
Of course, signals intelligence communication.
People can read between the lines, I think.
And decisions were taken, finally, to cause the director of the National Security Agency, To have responsibility for signals intelligence, or SIGINT, as we refer to it, with regard to establishing priorities overseeing the technology,
ensuring it's conducted in an appropriate way, the training standards are right, and investments are correct, and so on.
I got a little report here, which was released on 17 February of 2003.
This was actually sent to me by Bill Hamilton, and it was written by a person named Matt Guza.
I don't know who the person is, aside from director IC, USUFOIC. And he reports the following.
Aquarius background.
Aquarius and other information.
It says, Aquarius findings briefly described below, because it was being, for some reason, Project Aquarius was being looked at very closely at the time.
Number one, from what we have found, we believe that it started in 1953 alongside of the Project Blue Book ordeal.
Now, 53, let's think, what happened in 53?
This is pretty much around the same time.
The general time frame is the Eisenhower thing, within a year.
53 was also the time when a certain craft dumped in Arizona.
As I recall, right near Kingman, involving two P-45 J rods and a P-52.
The P-45 was the one met by Bill U-House, and of course the P-45 was the P-52.
I had the great honor.
But the theory on the drawing board at this time is that it started as an USAF black project and was overtaken by the intelligence community Due to the content and the secrecy from investigating the past interests of the USAF and UFOs, it seems that the USAF weighed their investigation too much on non-scientific data.
This would explain the need for the intelligence community investigation.
We can read between the lines here.
Herein, after finding and seeing this, or due to other issues, the intelligence community took Aquarius out of the hands of the USAF. Isn't it funny how these two things coordinate with one another?
Well, what are you trying to say?
Are you trying to say that...
That there was an obvious illusion here in the testimony to the Honorable Vice Admiral McConnell to situations which were going on during the 1950s involving the present relationship between we and the extraterrestrial species.
There seems to be a rather direct correlation here.
And then the fact that later on during the intelligence community interview of Mr.
McConnell, there was even an allusion to timeline changes.
Senator Rockefeller.
This gives my heart good saying his name.
I regret to say that my time has run out.
And I think somebody's manipulating this clock because that much time hasn't gone by.
Oh, my heavens.
And then a woman walked in who was from another committee, and that would be Susan Collins, I believe.
But the fact that there was a manipulation of a clock comment going on and this, and there are several.
Well, I've got it tabbed up as to the relationships here, but...
What I'm trying to, I guess, show the folks is how things are said publicly.
Yes, absolutely.
But what is interesting is how many in Congress know what's really being said?
Well, the head of the committee here, this committee was chaired by John D. Rockefeller IV, Democrat of West Virginia.
You have no doubt that Rockefeller is in the loop.
Well, I have...
Little doubt that he is in the loop as well.
And may have been in the larger loop as opposed to not the Majestic 12 loop.
Meaning a member of the Illuminati.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
There was a larger group that existed between 63 and 67 properly in approximately 2002 called the Committee of the Majority.
Oh, okay.
Okay, well then, all right.
I mean, you know, you've got people like Rockefeller that can call the war that happened in 1991 the Persian Gulf Procedure.
That's right, he actually called it the Persian Gulf Procedure.
It wasn't a procedure that I was in, but anyway.
Okay, well we've heard that since then it's now called, there's 40 members and it's called, isn't it the PI40? That's an old name.
That's an old name.
That's an old name for it.
So what you're saying or what is being said here is that there is...
Some catastrophic events that have been mitigated to some degree, hopefully, by a certain amount of unity on the planet and a certain amount of effort towards the positive.
And I'm assuming they...
And removal of equipment, yeah.
Okay, but they removed the equipment because the equipment told them to remove it?
They removed the equipment because the history indicated that the equipment was operating during the time of the catastrophe and was a proximate cause to the catastrophe by increasing the amount of energy into our asthenosphere and causing a global catastrophe.
It's just that.
In a sense, the equipment was telling...
You know, it's almost like...
Well, it was the equipment and it was the delegates.
It was also the delegates to the treaties and the representatives, including Kaela.
Meaning the Orions were saying, hey guys, it's the equipment, shut it down and you'll have better luck?
They were the leading force in that, yes.
Really?
Okay, now I'm going to ask you something that may come across a little controversial, but what...
No, we have been talking about such prosaic items all evening.
I'm not certain I can...
What makes you think that they had our best futures in mind when they told us to turn that equipment off?
In other words, why should we believe them?
Well, we should believe them simply because of the possibility and because we're talking about 4.5 billion up to 5 billion people here.
Now, let's think about this for a moment.
If we leave the equipment in place and nothing happens, so what?
What is the harm in removing it?
Now, that would be the corollary question to the question that you just asked.
If they don't have our best interest at heart, how would our removing that equipment prevent the catastrophe that we're hearing about from three different cultures, meaning the Orions, the J-Rods, and the J-Rods from earlier times?
How would removing that equipment proximate the catastrophe?
Only leaving the equipment in place would be the dangerous move.
So there's no harm in unloading a gun, but there is a possible harm in having it loaded.
Sure.
It's like the joke of believing in God.
It's like the Sufi joke about whether you believe in God or not.
If you don't believe in God and there is no God, there's no harm.
But if you do believe in God and there is a God, it's going to be a good thing in the end, right?
Well, it may take you a few more trips back, but...
I don't know.
That's up to God.
Right.
Well, in a sense, that's what you're saying.
This is an issue of practicality.
If we have a piece of equipment there that could possibly cause us harm, let's say they're wrong and it doesn't.
You better pull it apart anyway.
We're talking about the consequence of nearly 5 billion people.
We would be stupid not to, in other words.
Okay, what about the natural stargates that still exist on the planet?
They're...
What has been heard from my background concerning the natural Stargate issue is what was going on at Frenchman Mountain.
And to access that, they were using one of the Stargate devices.
They had it hauled out there.
Okay.
I mean, for example, Sedona has several vortexes.
Oh, sure.
They're all over the place.
Yeah.
And there are several natural vortexes.
Even a cyclone or a hurricane creates a sort of a vortex.
Sure.
Through which certain races can travel in their ships, it is set.
Okay?
Okay.
Do you have anything to say about that?
No.
Okay.
Those are natural stargates.
Oh, the...
Meaning a portal which does not require hardware?
Sure.
Well, I don't know.
Okay.
I don't know.
Well, you know, I guess I could probably make some sort of a comment relative Lotus.
There is a possibility that the portals that we're seeing during Project Lotus may be micro-wormholes.
And certainly, at least information...
is being carried through those portals from somewhere to here, and it's causing an effect in the environment.
Now, we're assessing presently to see whether or not they are naturally produced.
And in August, owing to certain circumstances, we're planning on running tests out at Frenchman Mountain to determine whether or not it is a natural phenomenon.
Possibly.
You could say that a Travel in time could be a warp produced by a gravimetric device of a craft.
You can move large distances in little to no time.
So I'm not certain what the difference is physically or mathematically between that and what is being called an Einstein-Rosen bridge.
You would need a physicist for that.
I'm used to working on cells and Right.
But, you know, and in a sense, if Lotus is creating some kind of Stargate effect, it's a micro-wormhole.
Oh, that's wonderful.
That's wonderful if it is.
It is wonderful, but in a sense, you might also have to let go of Lotus in that sense if it is going to impact...
Oh, I have.
I have, in fact, but for more tangible reasons.
We brought the fine art of producing these portals for demonstration up to a science.
We knew exactly what to do, know exactly what to do to propagate them with nearly 100% efficiency.
They range in size thus far that we've seen between about 0.02 millimeters, so about 20 microns, up to a millimeter.
When we produce them now in the field, they're approximately a millimeter in diameter.
And that's putting a heck of a lot of energy in, 50 times more energy than what we would do through the microscope.
But we brought it to the point where it was A beautiful thing where I could hook the right optics train on the scope, propagate with the use of a laser and electricity, and turn around immediately on the surface of a silicate.
And then we started getting things coming through on this end, or at least results in the medium around the crystal or around the silicate material that we were using, which were not normal.
Cells of anomalous origin, self-organizing cells, which appeared to be organizing in one case.
We did a variant of the ancient Lozaro-Spanolizani experiment.
A historic experiment concerning beef broth to rule out spontaneous generation.
And we had a very nice ABAB neuronal type pattern formed by cells that were self-organizing.
And they were clearly, morphologically, they appeared like neurons in this soup that we had.
So we had some real problems.
We had two other consequences where we had what were produced were anomalous cells of unknown quality.
Well, what we had is we had an organization, I think, going on on this end.
Now, we're coming very close, and more is going to be said about a year about this, but we're coming close to determining the mechanism.
And what it appears thus far is that there is a...
An opening to a somewhere which is then placed in communication with our environment acoustically and then there is a series of reactions with micro shards of silicate material or micro shards of quartz in our environment which then become actually spontaneously or nearly so enclosed with material from our environment and they move off to various locations and actually have effects on target cells in our environment And so it's apparently
based acoustically.
Okay, but that's understandable, although it's complex.
And I'm not a biologist, so I don't pretend to understand all of it.
But I understand where you're going with this, but you still...
But in essence, to get back to Stargates, because that's the subject of this...
Really?
Am I still...
No, you're there, but the thing is that...
What I'm curious about is...
I'm loosening the lock on the camera so it gradually...
I'm actually curious whether or not these natural stargates that do occur in nature are not Being accessed by beings, whether they be the Orions or whoever, you know, at will, into this dimension.
I've got no information that the P-52 Orions or P-52 J-Rods or the P-45 J-Rods are accessing such a system save the use of time travel technology, gates to move from one spot to another, and then the use of craft for moving from there to here.
Meaning to, from a spot in Reticulum, for instance, to a place in the Aquarius system, Gliese, Gliese, or however it's properly said.
And then, which is the origin of, from what I understand, of Project Aquarius itself.
Because they were known to be coming from that direction.
And that is, I believe, in the Aquarius constellation.
Because they're not...
They use craft then to move from there to here.
But they're using a gravimetric technology to warp time-space.
So I suppose that could be the same use.
But I don't think it's a situation kind of like, you know, you walk out into a wilderness and you see a whole parade of people coming through a Stargate with, you know, four heads and sixteen eyes and things like that.
Well, what about a whole parade of crafts?
I don't know.
It's the best answer I can give, the most honest one I can give.
I don't know.
I have not in 20 years of history with Majestic heard of anything like that from them, meaning as part of either a treaty system or an ongoing operation.
However, I've also heard reports of craft being seen in the sky.
I've seen craft in the sky, which I was not, you know, directly involved, like the May Boyer Park incident in 73.
I've seen what I believe, well, I have to say lights in the sky, not craft.
We've seen, come on, we've seen...
She has seen craft, and, you know, she's not feeding me full a line of bull.
You can stare at the sky and see the crafts zipping around.
Well, there are meteors too, and there are also experimental aircraft of various types.
There are also back-engineered aircraft, which are being spotted too.
Okay, but I'm always thinking, is it a course?
According to what you're saying, there is a treaty in which we had stargates or access to wormholes that we mechanically opened and closed based on a treaty system in which we were allowed to get information and send information back and forth, but that we didn't use to go out, but they used to come in, is what you're telling us?
Substantially, yes.
Okay, but we've closed all those down according to what you're telling us.
Yes.
Okay, so now I'm asking, Where's the yellow book?
No.
No, no.
But there are natural stargates out there that they can use any time they want.
So they no longer have use of our stargates.
So it's in a sense of a treaty.
They can have access anywhere in time.
Okay, if they do, let's pause it if they do for a moment.
The ones that we have to be concerned about would be the P-45s.
Because they are looking to justify their own history.
They would be very happy, aside from being paid off constantly, they would be very happy to see their own history justified.
How are they paid off?
They're paid off with technology, with assistance.
In the past they were paid off with a certain number of abductions per year.
What would they do to those people?
Aside from a longitudinal genetic drift study, That's enough.
Some of them were literally handed over, and I consider it illegal, and I consider it a violation of international law, and I consider it a crime against humanity.
And that's why I did what I did to stand up against it as best as I could and to get it off the books.
What about the idea that some P-45s have shapeshifted Excuse the terminology but into human form are here working in the government under a human form furthering their own demands on history.
It is a substantial probability that they have the ability because I've interacted with ones that would ostensibly look human, and I really don't like talking about the so-called men in black or men in black phenomenon.
Right, but I understand when you talk about the men in black, those were people that, or beings that, you know, and you went in our last discussion into quite a description of that kind of being, but I'm talking about somebody who is Acting like you and me, looking like you and me, absolutely undetectable.
No.
And still could be furthering or could even be...
If they are, they're not J-Rods.
If they are, they're not J-Rods.
Orion's possible...
Possible.
They are very, very brilliant people.
The short interactions, very short interactions that I had with them, I was impressed.
Whereas I would not want to be spending that much time around P-45s at all, I would have enjoyed.
In fact, I would have felt privileged speaking with them further.
When you say Orions, are you talking about the Nordics?
I think that's how they're usually.
They've been called talls.
Essentially, the anthropomorphic, very tall human beings with blonde hair, very large eyes, very blue, pretty eyes.
Larger than our eyes, as in ratio to cranium size.
The orbits are larger, etc.
Just brilliant.
Just absolutely brilliant people.
What I found most intriguing about them is how they modulated what I consider their brilliance through emotion.
The emotions coming from them were so less rudimentary.
They were so more complex than what even I experienced with Kaela.
I would have really enjoyed spending some more time with them.
Okay, but they're here on this planet interacting with us, isn't it?
Well, they interacted with us.
I'm not certain if there are presently any on Earth or not right now.
I would say that there are 50,000 years, a little more than that, ahead of us.
Given the similarity between body structure, between size even and body structure, The cephalothoracic ratio is similar enough.
I think they could probably, if their eyes didn't look the way their eyes look, they could probably get away with walking around.
But their eyes are way larger than ours.
They look essentially like these Bratz dolls that the little tween girls are going after nowadays.
You know the eyes are too large?
You see these eyes, these hyper-sized eyes?
I mean, it's fine on a Bratz doll, but if you walk this thing out onto the street, it's going to get picked out very quickly.
Okay.
I just don't think so.
Now, at the same time, I have to say, are they smart enough to probably get away with it?
Figure out how?
Maybe.
Maybe.
I doubt it, personally, because I've met a lot of very interesting, but a few strange people in the last four and a half years talking with the public who believe that there are literally reptilians walking around that are wearing masks and things like that.
Now...
I'm a little more rooted in reality.
I hate to put it that way, but no.
I joked with her that I wanted to do something over at the first place where we were at for my debriefing.
What I wanted to do is I wanted to hire some special effects people for real.
We would end the debriefing and then we would stop and then we would begin filming with another camera.
I was just suggesting a joke.
It never got pulled off.
What I was going to do is have a special effects person work up Worked me up with my face over the top of a reptilian face and I was going to rip it off and go, God, I'm tired of these human masks!
And just have this little segment put out there as a joke.
But she told me that people would take it seriously.
You know, I don't know.
I've got a strange sense of humor, I guess.
Okay, but you had a dealing with P-45s, P-52s, and these beings are, their treaty system is being adhered to because they are here in underground bases, monitoring us at all times, because otherwise, how do they know that we are abiding by a so-called treaty?
Because supposedly, we broke treaties.
Isn't this right?
Well, we have strained the treaty system more than once.
So have the P-45s.
We have in fact come into conflict with one another at certain times.
These conflicts have been amicably resolved.
And we are presently in an amicable state with one another.
We're not the only ones with a looking glass technology that can look in to other timelines.
In other words, they have the equipment too.
Sure.
And so it's not that difficult for those who might be wishing to enforce the treaty on their great, great ancestors to look into the present time as an expression of them looking into their own past and watching it change.
Okay, so in a sense you're saying they know what we're going to do before we do it.
They know the probabilities.
And so they are substantially capable of interacting with us if they feel that those probabilities are moving to eventuate their own history as they have it written for them as being an outcome.
And they find that, the P52s find that as an unacceptable outcome.
So they're pushing their advantage whenever they can.
They're pushing the advantage of not justifying their own past so that they may either split off on their own timeline, but that their own history would not eventuate a catastrophe.
Now, if you consider that pushing their own advantage, sure.
Now, the P-45s, the characterization that you've placed pushing their own advantage, I would say that that was an appropriate characterization.
Well, I was talking about that.
Yeah, the P-52s are much more amicable and a little farther along.
I just say that they're a little more spiritually adept, the P-52 Orions, certainly more than the P-45 J-Rods.
They're extremely mechanical, very, very logical, yet ruthless.
You're speaking of the P-45s?
Yeah, they have no problem picking up somebody like me out of the middle of a park and shoving a probe up his wazoo to test him, yeah.
They've got no problem with that at all.
I have, however, a substantial problem with that.
I think other folks who've been largely abducted, not everybody, but a fair number of them also have a problem with that.
Okay, what about the idea that we have somebody, Jim Sparks, I don't know if you know who he is.
He's written a book called The Keepers.
I'm aware of Jim Sparks as he is the personal friend of a couple of folks with whom we became close acquaintances.
So he's telling us that he has conscious recall of his abduction experiences and that groups of people were abducted by what sounds like P45s because they have real issues with control.
Boy, that was said nicely.
And put in front of computer screens and shown, you know, scenes of the earth, you know, first a beautiful earth and potentially, you know, fantastic futures and then shown the opposite of that so that what would be generated in these people is a love of the planet and a desire to make it a better place.
And also there is an aim to this.
They are aware that our emotions affect our state, our physical state, that our orientation to the energies, which are available from the cosmos,
if you will, Affect the state of our DNA, affect the state of our health, and they are applying that as an experimental protocol, a rubric if you will, to change the state of the people on board so that they can sample them for biological material.
The fact of what we take away from it is aside the point.
That is just whatever we take away, and then it's our take on it, and then a person, an experiencer, if you will, then goes off into our world and says how he or she feels about the experiment or about what they were subjected to or about what they were shown.
But there is a cold, hard, cruel reality involved here that we are being picked up from biological material as an experimental protocol.
Okay, meaning what these people that are being abducted are doing is providing, you know, DNA, providing eggs and sperm so that they can, what, experiment or create their own future beings?
What they're trying to do is they're trying to ameliorate their own neuropathology, which is already starting and is becoming an issue within their populace at their timeline concerning reproduction.
But how many people do they need to figure that out?
Well, as many as what they wanted to take until they get the answer figured out, and they really don't care because it's the old proposition of the anthill along the side of the road in Africa.
We are, to them, from their perspective, the ants on the anthill, and how would we feel about stepping on one or two ants or a few million ants out of an anthill?
It may cause a few people with I consider higher intelligence some moral problems, just stepping on them.
But, you know, how much would we really care about that?
They feel that way about us.
They want to use us as biological material, watch us get destroyed to justify their own background, their own history, and at the same time take the biological material from us and solve their own personal present problems.
Okay, but how are we fighting them?
What do you mean?
In other words, you've just told me they have a tremendous amount of control, they're abducting a huge number of people, and they're continuing their experiments.
Well, they have.
The numbers who are being abducted now are not treaty-related.
In other words, there is nobody being taken presently.
Zero authorized by treaty.
I can't stop them from taking people out of their beds at night, but I did influence the other.
Is it rolling?
Because H.G. Wells, the epilogue in his time machine, the time machine by H.G. Wells, I keep this on my desk.
Okay.
It says, one cannot choose but to wonder, will he ever return?
It may be that he swept back into the past and fell among the blood-drinking, hairy savages of the age of unpolished stone into the abyss of the Cretaceous Sea or among the grotesque saurians, the huge reptilian brutes of the Jurassic times.
He may even now If I may use the phrase, be wandering on some plesiosaurus-haunted olytic coral reef, or beside the lonely saline links of the Triassic Age, or did he go forward into one of the newer ages, in which men are still men, but with the riddles of our own time answered, and its wearisome problems solved?
Into the manhood of the race, for I, for my own part, cannot think that these latter days of weak experiment, fragmentary theory, and mutual discord are indeed man's culminating time.
I say for my own part, he I know, for the question had been discussed among us long before the time machine was made.
Thought but cheerlessly of the advancement of mankind and saw in the growing pile of civilization only a foolish heaping that must inevitably fall back upon and destroy its makers in the end.
If that is so, it remains for us to live as though it were not so.
But to me the future is still black and blank, is a vast ignorance, lit at a few casual places by the memory of his story.
And I have by me for my comfort two strange white flowers shriveled now, and brown and flat and brittle to witness that even when mind and strength had gone, gratitude and a mutual tenderness still lived on in the heart of man." That means a lot to me.
I actually hold on to that.
I hold on to that so much as such a prescient bit of thought that I actually keep the flowers from my great-grandmother's grave in there with it.
You know, I don't know what's going to happen in the future and all I can do is hope like everybody else and pray like everybody else.
Okay.
Well, thank you, Dan.
You know, and I understand that we've actually overtaxed you and asked you, you know, an incredible amount of information here, and you've been very generous.
And I really want to thank you for...
Well, it's my responsibility to say truth.
Okay.
Well, you definitely do that.
And what I would like to also say is How do we fight them for the people that are out there?
And what we know is unity is one way in which we are progressing out of a certain timeline into another, right?
Yes.
Okay.
But if you have anything else to add to that for people...
I would like to add something.
It's constant vigilance.
Yes.
Constant vigilance.
That's good.
That's very good.
Constant vigilance.
Also, there are many operatives, not just like Marcia and myself, but many operatives who are coming out of the Old Majestic who have had experiences like this.
Most of those operatives are not willing to say anything.
However, that doesn't mean that they're not doing things.
We are acting in concert with some of those operatives and with other groups to try to motivate the information from the inside which could be used for the beneficial application for humanity to humanity and we're doing our very best to motivate that through and some of it is being seen in very little snippets of it the projects that we're proposing
that are going to be coming in the future like Argo and ISIS I guess the only thing I can really say aside from the constant vigilance is to act to the right.
When a wrong needs to be righted or there needs to be a stand taken for what is right versus wrong, that our present time doesn't mean that we're so modern we have to get rid of the ideal for the real.
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