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Nov. 19, 2007 - Project Camelot
01:11:09
Bill Hamilton interviews Dan Burisch, 2002
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Well, initially, I was not told I was being taken up to, first to Watertown and then over to the Sector 4 facility.
I would ask to view certain slides at the sector 4 facility which showed papilloma virus.
And these slides were set up under transmission electron microscope.
They were announced.
That's what my knowledge was of papilloma virus.
I think it was limited, and they told me that they needed to take me to another location.
So we boarded an aircraft, a very small full-air jet, and we flew to a small airstrip.
I think we went east.
We should have gone east for the general job that we said we went east.
After landing, I boarded a chopper.
It was a Black Hawk job.
As best as my knowledge, I'm not an expert in military aviation at all.
The Black Hawk was blacked out, pun intended.
We flew from the airstrip into what I was told would be part of L.A.N.L. From there I was loaded into a white van, picking up a road, Which was very bumpy.
They finally, at about 15, maybe 20 minutes, 15 minutes maybe, that includes the loading time and all that, allowed to raise the gate blinds on the band.
I saw a couple of the road signs along the line with a black letter and white background that said R4. I thought I'd heard of it
only briefly.
That's it.
Allegedly, there was a lot of unique tinkering that went on in the biological field of that facility.
We were rounded to the left in the van, taken to a large door.
The door opened and we were met by two gentlemen, one of them was wearing a US Marine Corps uniform.
Another one was wearing a polo shirt, a gray polo shirt.
With a black color, there was a red patch, a prominent red patch, with a blackened triangle, something written in the triangle, and that's the orientation of the triangle.
One of the main points was an equilateral triangle.
One of the main points was down, so it had a flat period that would be flat on top.
And again, as God as my witness, I'm trying to remember what was inside.
It bothers me if I can't remember a pattern.
But we went inside.
They greeted us.
We went around to the left.
There was a guard that provided us in our batch.
We then went in a series of roll-up doors, which exited to a small Fourier over to the right where there was an elevator.
The elevator took us down to the first level down.
While we were going through the 48, I noticed there was an FM-1 sprayed on the door.
The FM-1, I don't know what that meant.
If it's anything like the Sector 4 Level 1 at Booth Lake, then I would make the assumption that the 1 stood for Level 1. then I would make the assumption that the 1 stood The FM, I don't know.
Traveling down on the floor, we exited the elevator, achieved our badges to a blue badge.
Thank you.
We re-signed in, we were fingerprinted at that point, brought into a small room, And we're told that they had some business that they needed to attend to regarding the papillomavirus.
They asked whether or not they'd been briefed over the papillomavirus.
At that point, myself and the two other gentlemen kind of looked at each other and said, just what we were asked, you know, a few hours ago, they basically, well, they looked disturbed.
They looked as though there had been somebody who had dropped the ball.
We then went with our blue badges in the hand to a second set of elevators.
Went down one more floor, exited where they gave us our orange badges backward.
It looked like our orange badges.
Following our orange badges, we entered into a...it looked like a...well, I've never been to the New York City subway, but it looked like a small monorail system.
Something out of Disneyland.
It's a small world business, little monorail.
We traveled probably several hundred yards from the monorail, exited, were greeted by a staff scientist who then told us that he would have scored us down a hallway to show us our areas of responsibility.
At this point they had a near civil rebellion on their hands because we didn't know what the hell they One of us four.
I was starting to get worried at this point that they were basically just taking us further and further into the facility and gradually Thors were going to lock.
But given the number of guards that they have in the facility, and I should have said that all along the way, there were people with what looked like AR-15s.
It's not a place to fight anybody.
So we went down the hall, went into the briefing room, At which point we were requested to perform an analysis of plasmid recombination involving restriction enzymes on a variety of tissue to remove segments of a retrovirus fragment from a variety of tissue and to,
if possible, associate that retrovirus fragment with the genome What was the source of the tissue?
The source of the tissue was listed with a J number and a K number.
The two scientists that were with me did not immediately know what that meant.
Given my experience at Sector 4, I knew fairly quickly that I was dealing with a J-Rod sample.
From an extraterrestrial biological source?
Yes.
The JRODS are still defined, even though what we know concerning the issue of the paradox, they are still defined as extraterrestrial biological entities, given the dissociation time between Earth and where they end up.
Right.
I don't do things without reason.
The two scientists that were with me, I didn't know from Adam previous to the meeting, but I kind of skilled the beans and I let them know about the K24 samples at Sector 4.
The K24 samples at Sector 4 specifically involved the research project having to do with Pardon me, these are difficult things to say with a camera staring at.
Oh, I understand.
Proceed at your own pace.
I have no choice.
But...
Following filling the beans, we were separated into three separate rooms.
How preceded the interrogation, wanted to know why I told them about the K-24 sentence.
And it's the old axiom, if you're asked why, you ask why not.
The interrogation ceased really quickly at that point.
and we were brought into a clean sphere environment, external capsule of the clean sphere environment, where we were told what the real purpose of the project was.
Now I have to be very careful.
Having had no previous experience with biological warfare, I don't have a polygraph up to me here, having had no previous experience involving with biological warfare materials, it came as quite a surprise to me that they would possibly be considering the usage...of an alien retrovirus recombined
with a terrestrial viral genome for possible use in BCW activities, or at least possible use in activities which could move toward biological warfare as applied to terrestrial.
This was inconsistent.
and The potential, I should say, the potential for it using that type of environment was inconsistent with my ethical boundaries.
It would have exited the ethical boundaries that I place upon myself as a scientist and that I believe society places on me as a scientist.
It also would far divert from moral value boundaries that I believed that my Creator would place upon me as a human being.
Therefore, my answer was no.
And I thought that was definitely I don't think my participation...
I thought that would have been all she wrote.
They agreed to house me in the facility where I went with my cute little orange badge to a residential unit a little further down the tram line and one level below that.
They did not change my orange badge when I went one level below.
My experience in the time that I stayed in a residential unit there was horrifying.
You know when you hear human beings screaming in pain?
Yeah.
Yes.
I think I said what I needed to say.
Have you ever seen any similar activity with Papoose?
Lake Site S4? 4-3.
Level 3.
Level 3?
Which is basically considered the housing unit.
Okay.
It's also been called various different things.
It's been called the museum.
It's been called the housing unit.
It's been called the Hall of Tortures.
an animal retention facility.
One of the horrifying things about the S4 facility is traveling in the elevator system.
There is enough of a sound conduit in the elevator system where you can hear the sounds of the test subjects from the third floor while you are in the elevators on various other floors.
Huh.
And the sounds are akin to what I heard at the dog-tip facility.
Every once in a while you can hear the sound of other vertebrae's dogs, cats, monkeys, screaming, some of which monkeys, screaming, some of which are just natural behaviors due to how they're being kept.
very sterile.
When I say sterile, I mean non-conduced.
To play the environment, more of a housing facility like a kennel.
And then you occasionally hear the sounds that you know are one of your brothers or sisters.
Now, J-Rod was kept on the fifth level, the bottom-most level, to your knowledge, in a clean, environmental...
Pressurized, hydrogen, clean sphere, yes.
Part of what was the atmospheric mixture that J-Rod was breathing, was that different from our own oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere in what respect?
In the respect that the larger partial pressure of the environment was hydrogen.
And in so doing we have a Pressurization and temperature difference.
It was an extremely cold facility within the Queensphere, and there was insufficient oxygen within the gaseous mixture to support human life, even as we understand it presently.
In other words, if I would have been introduced into the Queensphere not wearing a TES, I would have died fairly rapidly from asphyxiation and cold.
Was the mixture flammable?
Yes.
Well, it's flammable depending upon...not flammable at the temperature that it was being maintained.
Okay, so it was cold temperature.
It was extremely cold, yes.
I don't remember the exact number.
It's been a long time ago since I was in there.
Right.
When was the last time?
Ninety-four, was it?
95, I believe.
95?
Okay.
And you're probably referring back to the Q94 document.
Yes.
That is, in fact, a date.
94 is, in fact, a date.
Okay.
and the number would be 109, the infamous 109A, BCD&E.
Unfortunately, the rest of the document didn't leak.
Now on this latest...
I just thought about how it got out, what happened to my friends.
This request, which I guess you turned down as guilty, and they weren't too happy about it, I'm sure.
I returned the request down the following morning, at which point I was threatened to be maintained as a permanent resident.
And I asked him whether or not I would be taken to a kennel, so to speak.
Would that be the result of my residency?
And he kind of laughed it off almost carelessly.
And I was transported later that afternoon back to the aerospace near here in Dallas, where I was not taken back to Watertown.
Work upon how it was really and my own recognizance back to my residence.
Did you feel like you gained further insight as to what the program is about and what Majestic is doing?
I don't know full well what Majestic is doing on a few different levels.
I don't know all of the activities I would be privy to, but I know full well the activities involving the association with J-Rods.
I know full well the work that they have undergone involving Rain Dasser, which is a compartmentalized project within the Ken Trail project.
And I know full well What they're involved with now with regard to the BCW work involving the retroviruses.
A, I agree with trying to help but moving cautiously.
The second of the two, I disagree with the philosophy because it was the employment of a helicase restriction virus.
And C. I am in full disagreement for moral and ethical reasons.
Now, was there any indication to you that we're still caught on a timeline that is probably headed for future catastrophe?
We're talking about the doctrine of the convergent timeline.
Timeline?
Do you want to talk about that a little bit here?
Well, as I understand from personal, how can I have personal experience with time paradox?
Aside from living in the reality within which we exist, but from what I understand from what I've read and from the conversations which I've been privy, we are in fact living in a chimera A reality chimera which hodgepodges together the reality timeline that we would normally associate
with moving from A to B, cause to effect with the nexus being the passage of plot time.
And a hodgepodging together superimposed onto that in our reality of Errors that we made in our future to attempt to go back into our past to correct the problems of our future.
Those results have hodged a, rather than splitting a time stream, as maybe such people like Michio Kaku would posit, and I'm no theoretical physicist.
I'm just a lowly biologist that looks at patterns.
But it hodgepodges together, in a real sense to us, those things which are to happen in the future with our present timeline due to an interruption of the time stream.
Instead of splitting into two time streams, what happened is, as soon as we mucked around with something, we overlaid a second time stream into the present reality.
And the problem with that is, as I understand, we did it more than once.
What we have is a snowball effect.
A time-stream upon time-stream upon time-stream.
Uh-oh.
Okay, I see what you're saying.
A loop within a loop.
Yes.
I would, from my framework, say, if you're moving from A to B, looping like this, and each of those nodes would be an overlay of A time stream.
So the more we muck with it, the worse we get.
And the critical period of time is coming up within about ten years.
The critical period, according to the history, which has not technically been written according.
If you walk outside and say this, they're going to charge you with incoherency.
Right.
I had to say that, I'm sorry.
The history has not been written yet, if you walk outside here.
But according to the history books that I read, there is a difficulty, unless there further overlay is something in the time stream that decretts it or gets us out of the paradox within which we live, which I don't know how the hell that would happen.
I don't pretend to understand that kind of stuff.
Put a slide in front of me and I'll do a micro on it, okay?
But, yeah, around 2012.
And, you know, we're talking about the famous December 21st, 2012 on the Mayan issues.
And, yes, the catastrophe is alleged to have and to occur at or around that date, yes.
And what we can do about it, I have no clue.
But we have a split, so to speak, in the human species.
Following the catastrophe, there is a split between those individuals who take a more spiritual path and would move forward From there to Orion.
And those folks who take a more rudimentary path because it's the alleged spiritual nature of humankind from their philosophy at that time, which led us to not deal with the pressing problems of the day because we were too busy fighting our petty religious battles, that then go off into a more logical, mathematical, numerological Philosophy.
Those folks who then progress slower because of the lack of ambition, the lack of spiritual ambition, then gradually moving off to the reticulum in that area, who then become the J-Rods.
Now they become, by what process?
Is it some kind of radiation or mutation that takes place in their cell structure?
Well, the adaptive radiation occurs in time past the catastrophe.
This is according to what I've read.
The only thing I can say for sure, say for damn sure, is the interaction with the being that I had in Sector 4.
I can say enough authoritatively about The peculiar adaptive radiation that occurred toward Orion, the spiritual half of the species following the catastrophe.
Aside from the few things I've read about it and the chat going on at Jehovah's.
The J-Rods undergo adaptive radiation We see presently due to time and exposure after they've moved off to reticulum.
The height began to decrease as a function of microevolutionary changes.
The eye size The eyes started getting larger.
Which, by the way, is an interesting thing.
Because as the eyes were getting larger, this is before true darkening occurred via the cover lenses and the double lensing, the double lid system that they have, which is a very beautiful architecture.
Something happened.
uh...
They're traveling back into time as part of the problem.
They actually landed in the Land of Enchantment before the structures changed for their eyes.
The Land of Enchantment?
1947.
Okay.
New Mexico, right?
Yes, and I'm not so certain how close the young lady was I don't know, this all fits in even in my own life.
But the little folks which were obtained there were not fully, what I would say, fully grays at the time.
And they could not be called J-Rods at the time because they had not moved later on to So this may have been at some point where they had developed space and
time travel, but not at the later stages, maybe the earlier.
Well, their evolution hadn't even been completed at that point.
Completed meaning to the point where I had had experience of meeting the gentleman that I met at Sector 4.
It's difficult.
We were trained to call them specimens, and they're just frankly not specimens.
People are people.
They had not developed a darkening system yet.
And in fact, that was a micro-evolutionary change which occurred because of the particular solar issues which were going on on a planet that we, the shorter folks, moved off to.
And these changes were just beginning to take place at the time when they were working the time travel issues and landed by whatever means in 1947.
Well, their eyes actually contained a structure, while larger are very similar to ours, which they don't have now.
But that may account for the varying opinions between the darkened eyes and the structure of the eyes that the eyewitnesses provided from, I guess it was Brazel Ranch or something like that.
I understand there was some sort of differential between The two descriptions.
And I've not seen any of the bodies or anything like that from the Roswell issue.
I can't speak for certain.
You didn't ask me to pre-wheel on the situation.
Correct.
And you didn't specifically get briefed on what happened at Roswell?
Well, in the briefing books there were mentions.
And there was probably a very Heavy specific briefing in there, but when I was first brought up to the group area, when we were provided with the briefing books, frankly I didn't care.
I thought I was up there, to be very honest with you, to work some sort of bioremediation project.
More leaning to what ended up in reality is the rain dancer program.
I was extremely interested at the time, not only in histology and pathology, but I was also extremely interested in biospherics, which is what got me interested and forwarded me with the NASA folks, the which is what got me interested and forwarded me with the NASA folks, the ABL project, the I wasn't particularly interested.
And in fact, before I experienced the gentleman in the clean atmosphere, I frankly thought, honestly thought, that those people who believed in aliens were tinfoil ants.
And on my face, were there, to your knowledge, Were there other aliens at the Delcy facility?
Or were you not made aware of them?
I was, in fact, made aware in a conversation that there are processes underway whereby they are, in fact, producing hybrids.
Okay.
And this is just...it's inconceivable.
We're in the middle of a paradox as it is.
We've got our own homogeny making our paradox worse.
And we're adding to it.
God only knows where this is going to lead to simply because we're producing I don't want to say monsters because I don't know what it is, to be very honest with you.
I do know that we've taken the process of natural selection and thrown it out the window.
And not only have we done that, we've done so willfully and with negligence toward our own future.
It's extremely angry.
Excuse me, because I'm watching us...
Boy, I'm going to have to watch my language here.
I'm watching us muck our world up worse with indifference.
Almost.
As soon as you add two things together which are not meant to be together...
It's the old thing, if you want to go into the popular movies, Of dinosaurs and men being separated by 65 million years of history in a Jurassic Park movie or whatever.
The rape of the natural world.
Well, by God, he got it right.
We're raping her.
And damn us for it.
And what...
Damn us for it.
What did they hope to accomplish by producing hybrids?
That they didn't tell me.
Not specifically.
I can theorize what they're doing is they're taking the Aquarius project and they're taking it to the next step.
The next level, if you will.
Kind of like taking the atom bomb and turning it into the hydrogen bomb.
No matter what evil comes out of it.
At the end of the Q94 document, he made some rather strong statements against doing exactly this.
Wild types.
Wild types.
See, the problem is this.
We have viruses which are resident within our genome.
When you begin combining, cloning if you will, serological cloning.
When you begin doing cloning, that's a better term.
When you begin combining The retroviruses which are present in our genome, what we would say naturally.
And God only knows what's really in there because of the reality within which we're dealing.
And those things which we know are non-resident, not normally resident.
What are we possibly going to release?
Can any biologist tell us what the origin of viruses are?
They tell us that they are evolutionary archives.
Throwbacks from time immemorial in the evolutionary history of life on Earth.
Really?
I was asked about inconsistencies a little while ago about USN versus USMC. I brought out a consistency having to do with my own birthday and inconsistency.
1960 versus 1964.
And I said, gosh, you willikers, I was awfully young.
Well, how young were we when life evolved on this planet?
Or, in fact, was seeded?
How young were we then?
How do we know?
We don't.
Thus, it also causes the resident danger of even the project within which I'm currently working.
Which is the Starflower project?
It's a subset of the Starflower project.
I originally prodded its name, the Lotus, and Starflower ended up being an umbrella project above it.
But I see that's spelled two ways, S-T-A-R, S-T-A-A-R. You see it the way that I originally envisioned it, which is S-T-A-R. Okay.
And then you see it the way that they applied it within the actual classification system, which is S-T-A-A-R. Does that refer to a group?
That, in fact, does...
It's a bean box.
We refer to them as bean boxes.
I'm in a particular bean box which is called Aquarius.
There is a star bean box and that group specifically deals with time issues, with issues involving the larger milieu of extraterrestrial interactions and with the historical issues.
Involving the imprints of the extraterrestrials on civilization past and how those imprints affect us today.
That's as I understand it.
See, but that's not my bean box.
That's STAR. Yes, S-T-A-A-R. That's that strategic, whatever...
Not my bean box.
I've got to go back to something that you said before we moved into STAR. We each get our little funky Funky Aquarius...
I've got to go back to something you said.
You said that terrestrial viruses were an archive.
However, previously you had said that they had asked you to manipulate non-terrestrial source material and lock it up with something that was terrestrial.
So if we're trying to tap A source material that is extraterrestrial and viral in nature.
Are we going back into the extraterrestrial history to try to find an extraterrestrial ancient virus that we don't know?
Anything about the extraterrestrials now?
Well, first of all, I didn't say that.
First of all, I have to correct you.
I didn't say that.
Viruses are evolutionary archives.
I just said that.
Currently thought that viruses are evolutionary archives.
Okay.
Secondly, secondly, Are we dipping into the primordial soup of the human genome and possibly going to capture other encoded retroviruses and activate them as a result of the present time dipping of our label?
Yes, possibly we are.
Thirdly, Do we know for certain when the percentage of the human genome, which we know is virally and some other fragments, virally, do we know the percentage that came via natural selection?
Microevolutionary change.
I'm not going to have myself classified as a monkey.
Although I can accept it.
That's the ultimate reality.
Why not?
If I can accept what I've seen already in life, I'd be able to accept that.
Will we be able to discern between the two, I think is the question.
That's my question.
The answer is no, unless we are receiving more information from The Orion folks, who the hell they are, truly.
We, the spiritual ascended being or whatever, I don't know.
I don't have any direct experience for them.
We're receiving more information from the J-Rods than which I'm privy.
Then the answer is, if we're not, the answer is no, we don't.
If we are, possibly.
I don't know what the nature of the information would be that's coming from them, because they're not providing you that information.
What did you get in the compartment?
Just exactly what they need to know.
Look, if it comes out that we are in the fix that we're in, what is that going to do?
Thank you.
Thank you.
How is it going to help or hinder?
Hell, I don't know.
With the collective Would the collective mind of present humanity bring us toward a positive answer?
Look at the state of the world.
It couldn't get much worse.
What are we going to do?
Are we going to end this to Kofi and Iran and the United Nations?
It does not mean to belittle the man.
He's an intelligent, wonderful man.
But what the hell is he going to do with it?
What the hell is he going to do with it?
What the hell is the United Nations going to do with it?
What the hell will the collective mind of humanity, given our present mentality, do?
This may bring us to a faster demise by increasing more fractionation of the human populace.
We haven't even figured out yet that this god In that God, in this God, in that God, are all part of the same God.
So how the hell are we going to figure out that problem?
No matter what you want to call him, it, her, whatever, the beautiful thing from which we come.
People want to own everything except The solutions.
The thing which will free us is if we own the solution.
but they want to own a process in England.
I didn't think I could do that.
Basically, the clingsphere was raised up through a diaphragm virus from the floor.
They kept him in a separate location.
I don't know what they were doing while he was being staged there before we were coming in.
They never told me that.
However, the 4-5 designation was given specifically to make him comfortable Because of the addition of the two numbers.
Four and five.
Which is in fact why they built nine, not only a level, nine bits.
And there's been a number of people, I think, in the past.
Robert Lazar, I believe, mentioned nine.
There would be an entry team, usually a team of one, that would go into the Queen's Fair at the time.
We would be given a medical, suited, well, catheterized, plugged, and suited, test out on the When you were ready, you were satisfied?
What did you do?
There was a series of interlocking valves where we would enter onto a gantry system and the two existing scientists would come up the gantry.
For instance, it would be entering into the clean sphere.
We would have to get an okay over the PA system before we were allowed to enter into the pressurization valve outside the clean sphere.
Ritualistically, we would turn around and get the okay from the watchers, the wise men.
They would give us the okay from above in the observation pavilion.
Following that, we would hook to an internal conduit.
It would go from external to internal with regard to our oxygen pressurization and the nitrogen oxygen pressure.
It would be pretty easy.
I would be allowed into the little entry bay there.
The door would be locked behind me.
Then I would go through a series of protocols to test that out, my breathing.
They would check my heart rate again.
And then following that, The micro-pressurization was the purpose of testing the continuity of the suit to make sure that there were no problems.
And they had pressure sensors and whatever else engineers were watching.
Following them okay, then there would be a full pressurization.
Once the full pressurization would be complete, I would rotate my hoses because this was not a self-containment.
It kind of surprised me.
When I was told that I would be entering in for the purpose of removing the opulsion samples, that I was good to be in it.
Basically, I started thinking about the new alarm shroom days and all of that business.
I thought, well, that would be kind of cool.
Then I found that I was hooked with the hose.
It was more a, I won't say a glove box situation, but it was damn close to it because we were tethered constantly.
It was not an internal system.
A backpack, if you will.
Buffers and all that.
I would then have to go through a series of protocols once the door would open into the clean sphere.
I am privy to his prohibited name.
Thank you.
However, it's been requested that I not provide it.
And that includes not providing it to the people who oversee me.
It was private between him and myself because it's considered within their sociological structure improper and impersonal means.
So I'm not going to tell anyone.
I would enter one step into the clean sphere and the door would be closed.
I would then rotate.
There was a barrel system.
I would rotate My hoses are out.
And then I would be asked, and this was a great charade, I would be asked to stand and display a hand showing that I am a friendly human being wishing to interact, which was, I guess, the Sigma team, the linguistics team, the Sigma set.
Following that, I would step over to a teleprompter, which was set up as fused through the Queen's Fair glass.
This was the Great Charade.
Why I call it the Great Charade is he and I were communicating all along.
Yes, they do communicate the telepathy, and I don't know how they do it precisely.
The best thing I can guess is that it's something akin to what I'd say with a sonar melancholy.
I think an adult.
That's the best guess I could give on that.
I think it's a biophysist.
But we would be communicating all along.
And I would have to step over to the teleprompter machine and raise my hand again as a picture of a human being would be raised and there would be a series of numbers communicating to him, number system.
Meaning that I'm a friendly human being wishing to be around.
Meanwhile, I'm asking him how he's feeling.
And he's telling me that he is well.
I am asking him how he is being treated and he is basically giving me a laundry list of complaints.
Well, this is going on because I'm smiling.
And he is attempting to, so it's more like a wince because of the current physical state.
The intumescence.
The intumescence.
And they would be asking me concurrently, what's going on?
Knowing full well that he has the ability to talk in that manner, I would be saying, I'm just standing here trying to go through my protocols, sir.
Now they knew damn well.
They knew damn well that there was communication going on, and they knew damn well that we weren't talking.
And after The number of experiences that I had with John.
I think I can say the word week.
Following that, I would explain to him, while it was being explained on the board, I would just simply say to him, this is what I need to do if I have his permission.
He would then move usually from his hunched position over at the opposite side of the clinic sphere.
Into a more standing position, the best that he could do.
And I would walk toward him and begin the protocols for the removal of the evulsion samples.
Another bay would be accessed for a pressurized removal.
all of the samples were removed in a pressurized system.
As I had the needle in place in the proper position, I would press a button which would alert the external team that the sample was ready.
They, in fact, would fire the suction unit.
And that would remove the sample from the spike.
The sample would then travel via a closed conduit to a separate pressurization area where it would be handled.
I I had a number of these.
I personally conducted over 200, nearly 300,000 removals.
These were extremely fine-gauge needles, but they also caused extreme pain.
And when he would scream out in pain, Bob, what was the determination of what was wrong with the J-Rod?
Well, on a biological basis, they were suffering from a peripheral nervous degeneration.
That's what I was asked specifically to look into.
If there were other physiological problems, other system problems, that wasn't within my teens.
They were suffering From the peripheral nervous degeneration, closely associated with what we would call a monoclonal thermopathy.
It's termed as an MGS, an uncertain significance, monoclonal thermopathy.
They also had a peripheral nervous degradation, primary peripheral nervous problem, which was associated with a heat loss problem due to their peripheral nerves.
And I was asked specifically to find out the origin of that problem, having no idea at the time about all those time paradoxes and all of that.
No clue whatsoever about it.
So I was basically just trying to help a fellow being.
Finally it was determined that the only way would be a cloning method, or clone therapy, genetic therapy.
And the only way to proceed with that therapy would be to produce hybrid associations between present genomes and human genomes, because we were finally letting in that this is a person.
The present genomes with their present genomes.
We tinkered a little bit with fresh human media.
And I'm not going to get into the origin of that fresh human media.
Okay.
We found that we could, by Associating genetically the fresh human media with his media.
A partial alleviation of the peripheral neuropathy.
This then led to the next level of the mechanic about earlier.
And it also led to the end of the Q94 document of reference.
Now, can you say for a moment, Dan, what motivates you to now disclose this material to the public?
Sure.
That's not a problem at all.
We speak in America frequently.
In 1986, I was told all that I could be would be all you can be in business.
I was not told that there would be a circumventing of the United States Constitution for me to be all I could be.
I was not told that there was a circumventing of the United States Constitution in the group for which I worked.
I feel a pressing need for freedom.
And having grown up in a reasonably free environment, having signed myself into the slavery that I now find myself within, it's pretty easy For me to say, enough is enough.
Now I'm to the higher values that people would probably want to say the real reason why I want out.
That's the personal reason why I want the hell out.
Do you know who's controlling your show?
From the top?
Hold on.
Why don't they know that I'm seated here today?
I'm sure they do.
I'm sure they do.
Now, whether or not They want this information evolved and they're aware that I'm sitting here.
Or that they're just aware that I'm sitting here.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That's the big question.
Is it part of what I heard was a project called Patchwork, which would be a spoon feeding of the people of information?
Because I only know a certain amount.
I don't know everything.
Who's running the show?
Can you ask who's running the show?
Yeah.
I've come to know a group I shouldn't say I've come to know the group, I've come to know of the group, called the Committee of the Majority.
This committee is built of 33 men.
They are Masonic-based, and they are people who set in the highest positions of privilege and power, both within the United States government and other governments.
Not just restricted, this committee has members not restricted to the United States alone.
As I understand, yes.
However, it would be difficult for me to start naming names of people that I don't know for sure are seated there.
It would also be dangerous to the very cause for which I sit here, for freedom.
How does this group Majestic 12 fit into that?
The 12 is a group of scientists and scientific advisors who work for the Committee of the Majority.
Now, I have had occasion when I was involved with Aquarius to have to send to the so-called Majestic 12 the documents which you were proving the leaked material from My deceased friends.
And I had association with them on that level.
One of the Majestic Twelve, or I should say, was alleged to be a member of the Majestic Twelve, was present at the Queens Fair when I was in the Queens Fair.
I've mentioned his name before.
This, again, may be risking the cause of my freedom because of the very problems we face now as a society.
So I've got to be careful about that, whether or not that sacrifices my freedom.
Okay.
His first name is Zvigniew.
All right.
That's as far as I will go from that.
I have personal experience with that man named Zvigniew who was in fact present.
At Sector 4 when I was involved with the JROP. Coming out from Project Aquarius, I had come to a closer association by means of up and down the line in the conduit with the Committee of the Majority.
I believe that the Majestic 12 group is only associated with the particular Extraterrestrial projects that are going on within the community and not associated with the entirety of the scientific projects which are going on within the community.
The project we're currently working with, for instance, is not per se an extraterrestrial subject-based project.
So the fact that That I've been told not to route things to the Majestic Committee of the Twelve concerning the documents that I've been producing.
Is it kind of indicative to me that they're only dealing within a certain subset of the scientific projects?
More of that I don't know.
More of that I can't say.
I can't say because I would just be stabbing at the stars.
And essentially the committee of the majority of assaults and the justice.
The umbrella group.
And again, as I understand, there's Scottish Rite Masonic base.
And I think that they've been I don't see the leniency.
I see the...
He's running short.
He's starting to run short with me.
You can hear the clarion call.
Is there any particular significance?
You were mentioning a cycle of nine years that these aliens seem to be adhering to, and the next period coming up would be that of 2003, as I understand it.
Is there any insight on what might change?
The only thing I know for sure is that their relationship with us is treaty-based.
As in the alleged Orion visitors and confirmed particular visitors.
It's a treaty-based relationship.
That treaty and negotiations for further Cooperative work is due for re-upping.
And that re-upping is due in 2003.
Now, I've been kind of hooked up with the project which I'm currently assigned.
I've been told to have a working model of this theory, presentable by March 15th next year.
There may be more than coincidence having to do with the relationship between those two dates, or it may be entirely coincidental.
That I'm not sure.
Why they're letting this happen?
I don't know.
I have not been able to move right or left without getting watched.
I know.
And BJ over here...
I don't think they're doing it out of the good graces.
...went to meet with you one night.
Right?
And she had an encounter instead.
What was that?
Three classic men in black?
Is that right?
They had the classic look.
They had the classic feel.
They didn't feel right.
They were wearing black.
They were wearing like a fedora.
It was terrifying.
It was terrifying.
Instead of meeting Dan, I was met.
And I don't know what these people were.
They showed no expression?
No expression in their faces.
It was terrifying.
They spoke and it was like they had rehearsed what they sang because they couldn't speak naturally.
It was wrong.
The whole thing was wrong.
It felt wrong.
They walked wrong.
They moved wrong.
They were chaos.
I finally broke and ran.
I was scared to death.
I haven't been able to go back to the park since.
I can't do it.
My experience is that your description is consistent with gentlemen whom I've had previous encounter that would come in, observe what's going on.
A few of them attempted to interact with me and frankly I don't care to interact with them.
Because, like I said before, it might look like a duck, and it might quack like a duck, but if it ain't a duck, it ain't a duck.
And, uh, it's definitely a duck.
But, um...
I wouldn't make it a threat.
I would definitely make it a threat.
Well, a presence.
A presence.
Period.
It's threatening.
And the reason why it's threatening is because you can...
Have you had experience of being in the presence of a dead body?
Oh yes, I have.
Okay.
An animated dead body?
No.
Isn't that approximately the same?
Oh my god, that is...
An animated dead body?
That is so close, it is unbelievable.
Okay.
It's not, it's not, um...
It sounds like something out of a beyond a quarter with you, but...
It gives, to not overuse the word, an alien feeling.
They sang me happy birthday.
Is that right?
One year.
Two of them.
Well, that's like, they're like ghouls.
I don't know.
I don't know what to do.
Yeah.
But I mean, it's kind of what we would think of in our...
It felt ghoulish.
Yeah.
It felt ghoulish.
When they walked toward me, it felt ghoulish.
It felt like they were taking every step.
They had to think about each step.
They weren't moving normally.
They seem out of place.
They seem out of place.
Or maybe it is that we feel out of place being around them.
I don't know.
But they seem out of place.
Dan, we should begin to wrap this up.
Is there anything you would like to make a statement or something as if you were talking to, like the large audience I was talking to up in the Bay Area?
What would you like to say to the people?
Aside from the fact that I don't believe that the Queen of England is a reptilian.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, is there some kind of statement you would like to make?
Well, you know, I could sit here and be self-serving in that statement, but there are things which are much more important than my selfish nature.
We are walking toward the moment of the time of human destiny.
The decisions that we are making At present, are enhancing the potential for the ill-fated decisions that we are supposed to make in our future to occur.
I hope and I pray that we make the right decisions.
However, I have no idea what those right decisions are.
The only thing that I can hold to personally, taking off the guise of the biologists, just being a human being, the only thing that I can hope is that whoever he or she or it is,
We wish to call him Creator, that that protective force which has surrounded humanity since inception.
I pray that he's listening to our weeping and pulled us back from the precipice of our own demands.
Okay.
Okay.
I appreciate you very much giving this interview tonight.
And I'm not sure that you'll be decorated or promoted for it, but...
I don't know within whose armies.
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