PBD - Patrick Bet-David - Trump BANS Flag Burning, Wages WAR With Mainstream Media & TRIGGERS Al Sharpton | PBD Podcast

Aug. 27, 2025 - PBD - Patrick Bet-David

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Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick react to Trump’s push to ban flag burning, his escalating war with the mainstream media, and how his latest moves have triggered Al Sharpton and sparked a heated national debate. ------ 💻 REGISTER FOR THE VAULT 2025 NETWORKING EVENT ON AUGUST 27TH: https://bit.ly/3JbJYSZ 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/40lR90L 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: https://bit.ly/3TEWlZQ 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! TIME STAMPS: 00:00 - Show intro 00:50 - Netanyahu interview reaction 06:22 - Topics coming up on the podcast. 10:49 - 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/40lR90L 14:08 - Trump bans flag burning in the United States. 24:22 - Al Sharpton says Trump is attacking black mayors. 39:42 - Trump teases revoking NBC & ABC licenses over slanted coverage. 51:10 - Southwest Airlines changes plus-size passenger policy. 1:04:39 - 2.5M signatures to free migrant truck driver. 1:17:15 - Trump to allow 600,000 Chinese students into the U.S 1:31:16 - Netanyahu recognizes Armenia genocide. 1:45:35 - Netanyahu interview reaction. SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @ValuetainmentComedy @theunusualsuspectspodcast @HerTakePod @bizdocpodcast ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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	Did you ever think you would make it?
	I feel I'm so excited.
	No this life may for me.
	Adam, what you think?
	The future looks bright.
	That tape.
	Handshake is better than anything I ever saw.
	It's right here.
	You are a one-on-one.
	I don't think I've ever said this before.
	So Trump just went after George Soros and he should be charged with recall?
	He's saying that George Swords and his wonderful radical left son should be Charger Rico.
	Well, we got a lot of things going on.
	He also wants 600,000 Chinese students to come from Beijing.
	Not a fan.
	To come to school here.
	I want to hear your thoughts.
	600,000.
	Not 600, not 6,000, not 60,000.
	Not practicing.
	100,000.
	1,000 to come here.
	And yesterday, it was amazing when I sat with Prime Minister Bibi.
	I've never had so many friendly messages in my DM.
	Me too.
	And I wasn't on.
	I mean, they were giving me wishes for my family.
	They were hoping I would live a long time.
	Nothing that was about life and death or anything like that.
	It was just a very logical, critical, I didn't like it, but you were fair.
	It was so much love that came out of it that was amazing.
	You know what I got?
	What you feel?
	Which was awesome.
	Health advice, dieting advice.
	One guy was like, eat crap for the rest of your life.
	Well, I mean, that's the part.
	I have no clue you're talking about.
	I've never seen that.
	No matter what they say, no matter what they say, here's the difference.
	One side, if you criticize Israel, because I've done both in the last 12, 18 months, and trust me, I've housed a lot of people that they're not happy.
	Oh my God, oh my God.
	No matter who's up there, one side wants to call you that you took money from Qatar and you did this.
	The other side wants to kill you.
	There's a big difference in the way of messaging.
	And it's the biggest filter when I go through commentary.
	Last night on X, I opened it up.
	I said, I'm going to go 30 minutes, Q ⁇ A, ask me anything.
	And then I went through.
	You were very open with them.
	I was open with whatever you wanted to ask.
	Hey, did you get paid?
	Did you do this?
	Did you get it?
	We got a bunch of different people that were asking questions, and I responded to quite a few of them.
	I went for an hour.
	It was great talking to the guys about what it was like.
	We'll talk about today's, well, maybe some of the things that...
	Yeah.
	Pat, by the way, I know obviously you didn't get paid to do this, but.
	A life-changing money.
	I did.
	Ferrari.
	I got a lot of money, man.
	Ferrari.
	Here's what's funny.
	I did an Uber Love today, guys.
	Here's the funniest part, Rob.
	You know what's the funniest part about this interview?
	And there's only one person that can say this.
	Rob, how many people are thinking Adam booked this interview?
	Seriously?
	No, no.
	People are thinking you booked the interview.
	Rob, how much did Adam have with booking this interview?
	Zero.
	Who booked the interview?
	Tony.
	A different guy.
	He's not even here.
	But the point is the fact that when we told him, it's like, you're kidding me?
	It was like that kind of a situation.
	Same with Trump.
	But these are the types of stories when people say, those guys are paid by Qatar.
	No, they're not.
	Those guys are paid by Israel.
	They're not.
	99.9% of people are not paid by anybody.
	The power of bots is a real thing.
	There is no question about the bot game.
	Some people have a very, very good bot game.
	You'll just see the comments and you're like, how come you've never had a post?
	Yeah.
	How come nobody really follows you?
	You want me to believe you're a real account?
	The bot machine is so flip and powerful that they can literally.
	I had a guy one time I went to an LA.
	He says, let me tell you what machine I have.
	He says, I have a machine that I, customers, he says, politicians.
	I don't know if you remember when was it Newt Gingrich that got caught having 1.2 million followers that he bought or something.
	Rob, can you pull up?
	Was it Newt Gingrich that bought some followers?
	I don't want to throw him under the bus.
	Newt Gingrich is probably a nice guy.
	But when it was paid, It was Obama, like 55% of his followers on X were fake and all these other things that you looked at.
	And you go to this guy's place and he's showing in terms of campaigners going to Gawker to Richard.
	Oh, there you go.
	Look at this.
	Estimated 90% of the followers were fake in 2012.
	Was it Newt?
	No, but the point is, you keep this model exists.
	Yeah, it was Newt Gingrich.
	Shit, I was got it wrong.
	Good.
	That's been a long time.
	I still remember.
	Pat, I have a genuine question.
	What are the bots?
	I see these things.
	I click on them.
	You know, it says the most outlandish comment.
	I've ever, but then it's zero posts, four followers.
	Yeah.
	What are these people?
	It's effective, though.
	It is effective.
	They're just fake.
	They're propaganda.
	What are they?
	It is so effective.
	I can't even describe to you how effective it is.
	It's fake.
	There's a couple guys that on podcasts, 2 million new followers and 1 million new followers and 600,000 new followers.
	Now, let me tell you who really got some new followers.
	By the way, let's give some love.
	Just last Friday, Value Taming Comedy had 475,000 subscribers.
	Oh, yeah.
	This funny guy named Vincent O'Shana and his all his animals that live on the campus here, by the way.
	If you guys don't know this, we got like hundreds of animals here.
	This is Vinny's model.
	Value Taming Comedy went from 475,000 followers on Friday to 652,000 subscribers today.
	I think Value Taming Comedy is going to be a 10 million subscriber channel.
	And I told Vinny, I said, it's going to get to 10 million before Valutamin Maine does.
	There's something about comedy.
	People are just so sick and tired of this all.
	They just want to laugh, man.
	People are like, dude, just make me laugh a little bit.
	Look at our budget.
	And Vinny's good at doing that.
	Go to the most popular one.
	Go to the most popular one.
	Keep going down, Rob.
	Keep going down.
	Rob, keep going.
	Keep going.
	Where is he?
	Up, up, up, up.
	I'm sorry.
	Up, up, up.
	This guy, right.
	I don't want to get the wrong one.
	Him and the cake right now.
	Second one.
	Second one.
	No, not that one.
	Go back one.
	Rob, you know, go back one.
	That's the one.
	Watch this.
	Get the right gerbil, Rob.
	Here we go.
	I'm not even doing anything.
	So who is that?
	Your girlfriend?
	She's cute.
	What?
	I was being polite.
	Fine.
	She's not cute.
	You first.
	What?
	Kat's got your tongue?
	No, thanks, Halloween.
	Oh, my God.
	Still can't.
	We've been doing the whole thing.
	Can you put the link pad so they can?
	Dr. Doolittle over here.
	It's so funny.
	Give him a follow.
	Subscribe.
	But, anyways, anyways, going back to it, the reality when you're asking a question like that, that does exist.
	Let me go through some of the stories that we have here.
	If you notice, we talked for the longest time about the flag burning.
	I don't like the flag burning.
	Finally, the president made it a law that if you burn the American flag, you're going to get a one-year sentence to prison.
	By the way, not a lot of people are happy about it.
	I am.
	I'm one of the guys that's fully supportive of something like this.
	We'll talk about that.
	Sharpen, Tom just called him earlier, but Sharpton, Trump only threatens cities with black mayors, race dog whistling.
	Would you like to give the phone number out right now, Tom, with people watching?
	You can reach out to Sharpton at no, no, no.
	We don't want to do that.
	So let's just continue.
	Trump opens to DOJ probe into former New Jersey Governor Christie over the Bridgegate scandal.
	Got away with murder.
	I have some thoughts on that.
	Trump attacks NBC and ABC Networks wants FCC to revoke their license.
	Holy shit.
	Donald Trump says he wants to meet with Kim Jong-un again as he hosts South Korean president.
	Trump defends $11 billion Intel Stakes says he will make this deal all day long.
	And I understand that, but I have some thoughts.
	I know, Tom, you do as well.
	Trump removes Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook from office, citing fraud allegations.
	Sharpton, I already said that.
	DC goes 12 straight days, folks, without a murder, following Trump's capital crime crackdown.
	Okay.
	600,000 Chinese students they want to allow here.
	He warns he would destroy China, but wants a great relationship.
	You know what?
	I want to destroy G anytime I want, but I want to be friends with them.
	Yeah, this would be good.
	A nice, beautiful relationship.
	Tariff revenue will cut the U.S. deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade.
	Fiscal Watchdog says Federal Reserve Minutes highlights split over effects of Trump's tariffs on inflation.
	Newsom's pin rising energy prices on Trump again.
	Wild California buckles under crushing rates.
	Political divide between young men and young women on dating app.
	2.5 million people signed petition for illegal immigrant truck driver and fatal cap.
	We have to talk about that.
	We haven't talked about it.
	DeSantis made a good move.
	Vinny, I know you got some stuff that you want to say about that whole truck driver's guy.
	Ron DeSantis pulling license.
	We have to address it.
	Southwest, this is one of my favorite stories, and I actually agree with it.
	Earmuffs, folks, if you haven't gone to the gym for the last six months, you may want to put the earmuffs on.
	Southwest rolls out new conditions for plus-size passengers refunds.
	Okay?
	So if you're a little bit big, you know, something's going to happen.
	Okay, we're going to talk about that.
	Big girls.
	Is this the beginning of the English revolution?
	AP freelancer amongst five journalists killed in Israel strikes on Gaza Hospital.
	Health officials say we have to say this because this is the one that BB apologized for, right?
	Okay, I don't know if we can show the clip.
	We probably can't show it.
	No, we can't show the clip, Rob.
	Can we show the clip or we can't?
	I can play for you guys so you guys can watch, but we shouldn't play for the audience.
	So then Lil Nas X, Vinny's favorite guy, wears blue prison jumpsuit while leaving LA court.
	As it's revealed, police used Taser to subdue him.
	Maybe he liked it.
	He was having a great safe time.
	Good.
	You know, Google says Fox channel to go dark on YouTube if agreement isn't reached.
	And then this next one, I really, listen, men in high-power jobs or unemployed, more likely to cheat.
	Steady finds.
	So the people in the middle are the most faithful ones.
	Guess who probably wrote that article?
	Guy probably in the middle.
	But we can talk about it anyway.
	A woman who got cheated on.
	That could be it as well.
	Her name would have to be Larry, though.
	So, okay.
	All right.
	Netanyahu says he recognizes the Armenian genocide.
	This is from the time of Israel, times of Israel, where it's official that Israel has officially recognized.
	We'll talk about that as well.
	Crack a barrel.
	Stock jumps as company reverts to old logo after Trump weighs in.
	By the way, the way Trump did it was so great.
	Vinny was sharing it with us.
	Trump says he's removing Federal Reserve Board governor, Lisa Cook.
	That's a serious one.
	Tom, one of Tom's favorite stories.
	And then we got a few other things.
	Lil Nas X even responded back after leaving jail and saying, your girl's going to be okay, y'all.
	Your girl's going to be okay?
	Yes, it's going to be okay, y'all.
	Your girl's going to be okay.
	All right.
	So let me tell you, this will be the last one I'll be doing here, but I'm excited about it on what's going on.
	You guys know this before we get into the podcast.
	A lot to cover here today.
	Vault conference around the corner.
	We're officially now, to be exact, I believe 13 days away from the Vault Conference.
	Myself, 12 days away.
	Myself, Tony Robbins.
	Rob, can you have one of the guys or Kelly run to my office and bring the manual?
	It looks actually, no, they don't need to do that.
	I'm going to send you a video to show what the manual looks like.
	So I just shot a video of it yesterday.
	Kelly, you don't have to do it.
	I'm going to send this to you.
	Once a year, we get together.
	I can't wait to see everybody this year.
	This is going to be the biggest one by mile.
	Record-breaking attendance coming to this event here from all over the world.
	Three and a half day strategy session, business, all the stuff that we'll be doing.
	It's just, it's a very unique experience if you haven't been into it.
	Orlando Gaylord, if you want to get registered, go to the vaultconference.com.
	This year's sponsor, the title sponsor of this entire event is Goliath Ventures, founder Chris Delgado.
	We've spent a lot of time with these guys.
	They've come to Yankees games with us.
	They've been coming to Vault conferences for the last God knows how many years.
	Goliath was founded in 2019, a private global equity firm focused on blockchain and decentralized finance built on three pillars: technology, opportunity, and community.
	Core belief, blockchain is the foundation of a generational wealth shift.
	You can go search them, GlideVenturesinc.com to learn more about them.
	They'll be at the Vault Conference all over the place.
	But tonight, those of you that bought the ticket that have come in here, I told you it's going to be special.
	I'm going to whisper you for the last time.
	If you're on the Florida area, you want to come to the networking event tonight on the campus.
	Do you know we're going to have Ferrari SP3s here?
	I don't know if you know what an SP3 is.
	Rob, can you pull up what an SP3 is?
	Ferrari SP3.
	You're talking about Ferrari SP3.
	Modern homage to a classic shape.
	Finding this car, Vinny.
	Holy moly.
	It's a $5 million car.
	It'll be on the lot.
	It's just pulling up.
	We will have a La Ferrari on the lot.
	We will have multiple $5 million cars on the lot for you to come by and see.
	You'll have Senna's 1989 McLaren car.
	You'll have jets to get on and see for some of you guys that have CEOs and founder tickets.
	You will see the hangar opened up, a bunch of new things that nobody's seen before.
	Anybody that's a platinum and an executive, you'll get a tour.
	Founders and CEOs, you'll get a tour from me.
	And then right afterwards, anybody that's platinum and executive up, you will be able to go to the cigar lounge to hang out with each other, have drinks, have conversations at the boardroom, obviously on the other side, and then platinum will be on the back.
	The members, boardroom members, but you'll get a chance to actually see the cigar lounge.
	This is the manual, by the way, Rob, if you want to play this clip.
	This year's Vault Conference.
	Yang, for those of you guys that are going to the Vault Conference, manual is here.
	This year, it is 296 pages.
	Holy moly.
	Oh, my goodness.
	We cannot wait to go through this with all of you after.
	Wow, that looks amazing.
	That's right.
	You know when we start working on this manual?
	We'll be there.
	A week after the vault ends for next year.
	That's when we start working on next year's conference.
	Yeah, so we can't wait to see everybody.
	Anyways, if you haven't yet registered, pretty much last chance.
	12 days left to the event.
	Go to thevaultconference.com.
	Again, go to thevaultconference.com.
	It's becoming the number one business event for serious growth because you actually get strategies on how to take your business and your life to the next level.
	Having said that, let's get right into it.
	Let's get right into it.
	All right, top story, Rob.
	What do we have as a top story on what they voted for?
	The flag burning ban.
	Okay, so let's go with the flag burning ban.
	So, Trump flag burning order sparks online conservatives' free speech debate, which totally makes sense.
	Presidential new executive order targeting flag burning announced on Monday directs the Attorney General to prosecute violations of law involving flag desecration and to pursue litigation that will clarify the scope of First Amendment as it relates to flag desecration.
	Rob, do you want to play this clip with the president?
	They're going back and forth explaining it.
	Lastly, sir, this is an executive order on flag burning.
	It charges your attorney general.
	Would you listen to this?
	This is very important.
	Flag burning.
	All over the country, they're burning flags.
	All over the world, they burn the American flag.
	And as you know, through a very sad court, I guess it was a five to four decision.
	They called it freedom of speech.
	But there's another reason which is perhaps much more important.
	It's called death.
	Because what happens when you burn a flag is the area goes crazy.
	If you have hundreds of people, they go crazy.
	You could do other things.
	You can burn this piece of paper.
	But when you burn the American flag, it incites riots at levels that we've never seen before.
	People go crazy.
	In a way, both ways.
	There are some that are going crazy for doing it.
	There are others that are angry, angry about them doing it.
	Do you want to discuss that?
	What the executive order does, sir, it charges your Department of Justice with investigating instances of flag burning, and then where there's evidence of criminal activity where prosecution wouldn't fall afoul of the First Amendment and instructs the Department of Justice to prosecute those who are engaged in these instances of flag burning.
	And what the penalty is going to be, if you burn a flag, you get one year in jail, no early exits, no nothing.
	You get one year in jail.
	If you burn a flag, so you get one year in jail.
	Tom, Adam and Vinny, you guys got some thoughts on this.
	Vinny, I'm going to come to you first.
	Rob, I sent you a video of one of my good friends who I kind of agree with her.
	But like when people say burning a flag in free speech, I know it's protected under the Constitution, but they're twisting what free speech actually is.
	Free speech is talking, writing, protesting, holding a sign, which a lot of people love holding signs.
	The second you light something in fire in public, it's actually illegal.
	The majority of the United States, in the United States, if you don't have a permit to burn something out in public, if it's not a pit, if it's not a controlled fire, it's illegal.
	Plain and simple.
	You can't light a bonfire.
	You can't start a freaking fire in the middle of the street and start grilling meat in the middle of the street.
	I'm being technical right now, okay?
	So why the hell should burning a flag and these people get a free pass?
	And don't forget, bro, our flag, and this is my opinion.
	You can say whatever the hell you want.
	It's not just a piece of fabric, okay?
	It's draped over freaking coffins of soldiers who go overseas and fight for the country, okay?
	They're folded, they're given to freaking families of veterans who get freaking killed for this country.
	I know what people are going to say, yeah, but they're over there fighting for the right for the person to come and burn it.
	You know what the hell you're doing.
	And, Rob, you know who I never thought I'd say this in public or live on air?
	You know who I agree with and whose side I take on this whole thing?
	Hillary Clinton.
	Hillary Clinton, one of my best friends.
	She actually said, you know what Hillary said back in the day in Congress?
	Rob, can you play that video of Hillary and what she said about flag burning?
	This is the first time I agree with her about anything.
	So I hope, Mr. President, that we can pass a law that criminalizes flag burning and desecration.
	I agree that this burning, this desecration that can happen to our flag is something that people have a right to ask this body to try to prohibit and prevent.
	So I'm going old school, Hillary Pat.
	I'm just like something bothers me inside when I see that happening.
	Other people, other countries, whatever, do whatever the hell you want on another country.
	But when it happens here, it really pisses me off.
	Free speech, say whatever you want, hold whatever sign.
	When it comes to the flag, I'm anti-burning.
	Adam, where you at?
	Well, burning the flag should be legal, but it should be a death sentence for the rest of your life.
	What do I mean?
	Under the First Amendment, you do have freedom of speech.
	I think it was the Supreme Court ruling that 5-4, which Trump mentioned, that you can burn the flag.
	However, you know how, like, if you go for a job interview and they're like, scrub your social media, oh, this is what this person did.
	Anyone who burns the American flag, it should be on their resume and on their record forever.
	So you want to apply for this job?
	You burnt the American flag, Bill.
	What were you?
	Yeah, it was a bad day.
	Yeah, you're out.
	You want to go for a loan at the bank?
	Sorry, Carl, you burnt the flag, but yeah, you're not going to, this isn't going to happen.
	You go to court, you go to the mall, you should be shamed unto infinity.
	There's three types of people that I think burn the flag.
	There's just radical leftists, radical leftists.
	We know what they are.
	They're usually doing this.
	There's foreign enemies.
	We see what happens in Iran.
	What do they always yell, Magba, Meriba?
	Okay.
	And then there's anti-war activists.
	Here's my only problem with the anti-war activists.
	If the only war in the history of your life you've ever protested against is Israel, you probably aren't anti-war.
	You probably just hate Israel.
	So these are the types of people that burn the flag.
	Tom, any thoughts?
	Yes.
	So I have to listen carefully what the president said.
	First of all, I will tell you the price of, and I've said this before, the price of free speech is free speech.
	You may not like what the other guy says, but that's the price of free speech.
	Now then, line, where's the line?
	The president used the word incite.
	Inciting riots is against the law.
	You cannot incite riots.
	You can have a demonstration.
	You can protest a war.
	You can protest a lot of things.
	You can get a permit even at the University of Alabama and say you want to protest Israel.
	And you can have a lot of people surround you and suddenly realize that you're outnumbered and maybe call off your protest.
	That's free speech.
	And that's also public discourse coming back to talk to you.
	But the president was saying about inciting riots and then asking the Justice Department to investigate to see were you desecrating the flag to incite a riot?
	If you are, guess what?
	That's, we're not going to stand for that.
	And the one year in jail, I want to see how this shakes out because I think you have free speech, but then you have inciting riots.
	And then you have going over that edge of the desecration, which incites the riots.
	And so it's like, hey, you went out there to have a demonstration.
	You burnt the flag.
	You incited a riot and you got your butt kicked.
	And guess what?
	Sorry.
	You know, you're going to get one year.
	I want to see it play out, but there's some logic that goes behind this and a lot of precedents that the president is pointing to.
	And thank you so much for the clip that Hillary Clinton seems to agree.
	What did she use the word?
	Desecration.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Yeah, I mean, look, to me, it's very simple.
	If you don't love the country, you have other options.
	Go somewhere where you have pride.
	I love America.
	I served for this country because I love this place.
	This is a special place.
	It's the greatest country in the world.
	The turning point USA guys do a great job.
	One of the guys goes out there asking these college students.
	I don't know if you've seen this, just came out.
	Rob, can you play this clip?
	This defines my views of when they say is America the greatest country in the world.
	And then when the option is given, look how they respond.
	Go ahead, Rob.
	America the greatest country in the world.
	No, if you were offered a one-way ticket to leave the country, never come back, but it's all expenses paid, would you accept that offer?
	Let's see, Eric.
	I don't think that I would leave.
	I wouldn't leave either.
	Oh, really?
	Is America the greatest country?
	But that's the point, though.
	Everybody talks a lot of shit until eventually you're faced with a decision.
	It's like, no, no, no.
	I wouldn't leave.
	I wouldn't go anywhere.
	Not limo driver, limo driver, but people haven't used that.
	Uber driver.
	You're talking about in LA?
	Our Filipino Uber driver.
	Where were we?
	We're in LA.
	We were on our way to the US.
	We were driving around in the middle.
	We're having a conversation.
	And by the way, the Jubilee interview that's coming out this Sunday, we're having a conversation.
	It's like, da, da, da, da.
	No, I don't.
	I won't.
	I would take the money.
	I would leave.
	Why are you in America?
	Because, you know, it's not as bad.
	You think it's a great country?
	Just listen to this guy.
	Then just leave.
	So if you want to burn the flag, I don't feel comfortable about it.
	By the way, other countries, China, if you burn the flag, three years in prison.
	Russia, fines or prison.
	India, prevention of insults to national honor.
	It's illegal.
	You can't do it.
	Saudi Arabia and many other Middle Eastern countries, strict bans, heavy penalties.
	Turkey, prison sentence, or for insulting the national flag.
	Mexico, Mexico, up to four years.
	Okay.
	So then you go Singapore, Malaysia, strong bans.
	There's a lot of different countries that have different laws for this.
	I'm glad America is finally putting it in place as well.
	But it is not a popular decision to make.
	And for those who don't support it, I get your argument as well.
	I am, this is my line.
	Don't burn the flag.
	If you don't like it, go also.
	I love those other countries.
	It says, don't even insult the flag.
	Yeah, if you even do, you're going to be.
	Never mind, burn it.
	You insult the flag.
	Certain countries.
	You can't burn the flag, but you can burn people.
	That's totally cool.
	If you're an apostate.
	You know what's interesting?
	This is what I've seen with, you know, because I do my American flag thing and walk running with the people.
	You know what I've realized?
	Everyone who hates America, everyone who basically has a massive distaste for America, they're always comparing America to utopia.
	Well, we're not the greatest country in the world.
	And anytime you give them a, all right, if not option A, option B, and option B is any other country, they never pick the other country because there's no perfect country.
	Let's move on to the next story.
	All right, Sharpton.
	Trump only threatening cities with black mayors.
	Okay, this is not going to end well for Sharpton.
	But let's play this clip here, Rob.
	I'm sure you got it, right?
	This is what Sharpton said about the president, I believe, on Morning Joe.
	Go ahead, Rob.
	It's a lot talking about how I've condemned a lot of what was going on in Chicago back in the day and other points.
	It's not about crime.
	But when you have this consistent pattern that you're only going after black mayors, now you're going to fight Westmore.
	I mean, the pattern here is clear, particularly when the data shows that crime is down in these cities.
	And you should be saying, why can't I work with the mayors?
	The wise political strategy is to start picking off some of these mayors that could say, Trump's not that bad.
	We're working together.
	He doesn't want that.
	And it's clear he's doing it at the expense of people.
	Okay.
	Does that work, Pat?
	Does that work?
	Like, Al Sharpton is just there to say everybody's racist.
	Like, they just, every time anything like this comes out, they just wheel him out.
	And can we be honest with each other?
	He's talking about all the mayors of all these cities and he's going after black.
	Okay, D.C., D.C. mayor is African-American, correct?
	New York City mayor is what?
	African American.
	African-American.
	Philadelphia mayor, Cheryl Parker, African-American.
	Los Angeles, Karen Bass, African-American.
	Chicago, Brandon Johnson.
	Well, guess what?
	You guys are effing up.
	And I'm sorry, but when somebody points it out, you have to be like, oh, it's racist.
	No, he's not going after it because of the race.
	Clean up your effing city.
	For some reason, you guys just feel like, nah, let's just keep it crazy.
	Let's keep it dirty.
	Let's keep everybody on freaking welfare and everybody killing each other because we're going to keep getting federal funding.
	No, I'm tired of that problem.
	And I just looked it up.
	I'm like, wait a minute.
	Is he really going after them because they're racist?
	Because he's racist?
	No.
	They're all African-American.
	It seems like, hey, why aren't you taking care of your people in your city?
	Okay.
	Everything is like, no, don't look at me.
	Look at me.
	Trump.
	Trump bad.
	Trump bad.
	No, no.
	You suck at your job.
	And that's what it is.
	By the way, believe it, believe it or not, the way he put that, he brought the pressure on African-American mayors of cities.
	So there's a pattern.
	It's not that he's targeting them.
	It's the fact that it's the African-American mayors, for whatever reason, I don't know why crime is high in those cities.
	So you might say, well, that's because it's mainly African Americans.
	You really want to continue going?
	This is not going to end well for you as you're going through this slippery slope.
	Then they have to use the racist card.
	No, you're just being racist, right?
	Now, let me show you something here about what local Chicago folks who are sick and tired of their mayor and they're asking for Trump to come.
	And you tell me if these guys look like Trump voters.
	Just let me, they're just sick of it.
	They're like safety over politics.
	Finally, common sense.
	Look how she calls him out.
	Go ahead, Rob.
	Play this clip.
	Sit up there and say it.
	You will not allow Trump to come in here and get these illegals.
	Yeah, you can smile.
	We're in a billion-dollar deficit.
	And you spent half of our money, half of that, on illegals.
	You campaigned, you campaigned, and doubled down that you will not raise property taxes.
	I won't raise your property taxes.
	You wanted to raise our taxes 300 million.
	They shut it down.
	Now we're back here for $150 million.
	I love it.
	Okay.
	See, this is what we're asking now.
	Since you want to crash out, some of y'all say y'all willing to go to jail for it.
	Trump, Tom Holman, make a dampo at this right here first.
	Please come here first.
	Spend our tax dollars to go, Michael Rob Reedy.
	You said to take Trump to court to protect these illegals.
	That's cool because we're about to make all of y'all all of this famous.
	Y'all think this has gone right?
	I think not.
	Oh, I love it.
	Chicago Real.
	This is what's going to happen to you.
	You got Kash Patel and Pam Bundy that you're going to have to deal with sooner than later.
	Then it's going to be an audit.
	Next, it's going to be an investigation.
	Then it's going to be an indictment.
	Prohibition.
	That's what's going to happen to you.
	By the way, let me tell you what.
	They brought him an orange tower.
	Now they are going to call that guy an Uncle Tom.
	100%.
	And they're going to call these guys racist.
	So when they use the racist word, watch what this guy does.
	Rob, again, Chicago, crime.
	Just so you know, I'm going to show you something from a story of somebody in D.C. D.C. goes 12 straight days without murder following the Trump's capital crime crackdown.
	Rob, go back to that clip.
	I want to stay on this racist thing with Chicago.
	Watch this other clip I just sent you.
	There's another clip I sent you of a guy that's questioning him, that he doesn't want to answer the question.
	And then they show a clip afterwards of what he campaigned on.
	This is Chicago's mayor.
	Again, I've been to Chicago 100 times the last 25 years.
	I had so many offices in Chicago.
	I almost bought a house in Naperville.
	I wanted to move to Naperville.
	I have offices in Oak Brook and Best Plains, you name.
	We had all over the place.
	I used to go and stay at the same exact hotel.
	I have so many great memories of Chicago the last 25 years.
	I would like to see the city be great again.
	There's a big Assyrian community there.
	There's a big Middle Eastern community there.
	Watch this right here, Rob.
	Play this clip.
	Why are you a racist?
	Mayor Johnson.
	Yeah.
	Please turn the mic on.
	Thank you.
	Real Chicagoans woke up this morning relieved that the Department of Justice is finally investigating your race hustle.
	As someone who grew up on the south side of Chicago, I've heard a lot of race hustlers in my life, trust me.
	But they were usually marching around outside of City Hall, which is what makes this so embarrassing and dangerous.
	For over a year, real Chicagoans, white and black, have been telling me that your black power rhetoric is bringing the city backwards from a place that we need the question had overcome.
	You want the question?
	Please.
	Real Chicagoans want to know, why are you a racist?
	You know, first of all, I reject the idea and the premise that somehow that's an actual legitimate question.
	Okay.
	Do me a favor, Rob.
	Pause it right there.
	Fast forward to when he's explaining himself because the gentleman's going to ask the same exact question twice.
	So you can skip that.
	Keep going, keep going, keep going.
	Go to the part where he's sitting to the right.
	Keep going.
	It's about to come up.
	Right there.
	Okay.
	Play from right there.
	Go ahead, Rob.
	One employer of our people is our people.
	What I'm saying is, when you hire our people, we always look out for everybody else.
	We are the most generous people on the planet.
	The deputy mayor is a black woman.
	Department of Planning Development, it's a black woman.
	Infrastructure, deputy mayor, is a black woman.
	Chief operations officer is a black man.
	Budget director, it's a black woman.
	Senior advisor is a black man.
	One thing that I know for sure that I have to do over these next two years, every single dime that our people have been robbed of, I want to make sure that that is returned two, threefold.
	We have six developers that have received the first $30 million for investment.
	Five developers.
	Of those six developers, five of them are black and three are women.
	BOA construction.
	You get the idea of what's going on.
	And then they're saying, well, he's only targeting black mayors.
	Sharpton, he's only giving money to blacks and only take care of blacks.
	And if you're white, he ain't targeting you.
	So what does that mean?
	Who's the more racist one there?
	See, this is where logic and data comes out and they lose the argument.
	Tom, your thoughts on the story here.
	Well, you know, it's really funny is Trump is picking on statistics that are showing that citizens have enough and are living in horrible situations.
	Washington, D.C., how many clips do we need of people that say this is better?
	They're actually making the police work hard.
	The police were kind of casual.
	And we now know we've seen individuals produce what they claim is evidence that allegedly all these crime stats were being fudged in D.C.
	So it was actually worse.
	And then when Al Shaupton comes out like this, Al doesn't want more than a five-minute interview.
	And I will tell you why.
	Because he's claiming Trump is racist.
	And you want to go into the statistics and crime.
	If you want to go in the statistics in Philadelphia and in Chicago, you don't want to go in and look at the victims and the perpetrators because black-on-black violence is at the top of the statistical list.
	More of the crime, unfortunately, tragically, is black on black.
	And so you want to go there, Al?
	This doesn't end well.
	It's sad.
	The communities need infrastructure.
	They need school investment.
	They need strong mayors that are colorblind to bring it back.
	And right now, you need the National Guard to restore order so you can even get the first base.
	That's what I think.
	And I think Al Sharpton is so disingenuous.
	If it's a half hour, if those were half hour news shows going A to Z, he is at the end of it with nothing to say and completely, completely exposed for just his comments about racism.
	He's the one with the dog whistle.
	He's the one that's race baiting.
	He's the one that's trying to make it a racial issue when all we're doing is we're looking at the statistics in certain cities and people that need help.
	And the president is saying, I thought you were going to show some stats.
	Can you go to Chat GBT, please, Rob?
	I thought you had some numbers you were going to show.
	Can you, because Tom, you prompted something very good.
	What percentage of Chicago's population is black?
	Can we look that up?
	That's about a third of it, Pat.
	I actually did some research.
	I want to look at this here.
	What percentage of Chicago population is black?
	Okay.
	Let's say it's going to be 28, 29%.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	28, 29%.
	Perfect.
	What percentage of the crime in Chicago is from the black community?
	Maybe Sharpton's right.
	So let's validate him.
	Let's give him some credibility.
	And maybe we're wrong and he's right.
	And if you look at this, go a little bit lower.
	Okay, so black Chicagoans are 20 times more likely to be a homicide victim compared to white residents.
	Victims.
	77% of homicide victims in the same period were black.
	Go back up.
	Go back up.
	You missed the pilot.
	Yeah.
	26% of individuals are responsible for 51.3% of the murders.
	51.3% of black.
	Wow.
	That's a freaking thing.
	I was hoping to show Al Sharpton that he's right and maybe Trump is targeting them.
	But Al, this is, man, Chad GBT is racist.
	100%.
	Oh, it's totally racist.
	Chad GPT is racist.
	I mean, if Chad GPT even has the audacity to spew data like this.
	So how do we fix this?
	That's the question.
	The way you fix it is what?
	To have more black mayors to go in there to tell them they're victims and it's the white man's fault?
	Nope.
	Is that the solution?
	Has that worked for how many years?
	26, 27, 25 cities out of top 30 crime cities in America ran by a Democratic mayor.
	I don't know what percentage is black.
	We can find that out.
	But the point is, the more you start saying things like that without giving data, it just ends up backfiring on you.
	And then Chad GPT puts some numbers out there like, oh, shoot.
	Maybe this is not a good angle I should have taken.
	Can we get to the next subject?
	Let's talk about something else.
	You know, let's talk about a different story here.
	Adam, did you have any thoughts on this?
	I do.
	Well, you know, words have power.
	You've said this before, but certain words, they lose all their power once they're overused or inflated or it just becomes completely diluted to the point where it's like it's lost its complete meaning.
	And one of those words specifically is racist, right?
	So like you'll hear like, for instance, when you interviewed Bibi Netanyahu, literally interviewing Hitler, literally.
	Bibi is Hitler, literally.
	Well, clearly you don't know the word literally.
	And to draw a comparison between Bibi, who's doing a press conference or doing a podcast with Hitler, remind me when Hitler was doing podcasts and basically explaining himself to the world.
	Literally Hitler.
	So when you call someone racist, Trump is racist.
	Trump is Hitler.
	How many times have you heard that?
	It's so absurd to me.
	And it's so powerless and toothless and becomes completely watered down that it loses its meaning.
	So what I say when it comes to racism, do you remember when Bass of Youssef, we had our little engagement over there?
	And he's like, you're racist.
	I'm like, why?
	Because I think certain countries in the Middle East are more focused on GDP and they're doing well like Gulf countries and certain countries are more focused on terrorism and GDT and they're not doing so well.
	That's racist.
	No, that's data, buddy.
	So to me, it's only racist if you single out one group.
	It's not racist if you make fun of everybody.
	When I was doing stand-up, much like Vinny does, I would call out black, white, Mexican.
	Yellow it's only racist if you single out one group and flip it.
	Why is it that someone like Al Sharpton is only singling out one group, white presidents?
	So to me, he's toothless and loses his meaning.
	It's unfortunate because there's a couple of things that happens with social media and with Chad GBT and these searches that you can do.
	Nowadays, at any given point, somebody can watch somebody say something on CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and I'm like, is that true?
	Let me go doom.
	Oh, no, that's wrong.
	Is that true?
	No, no, no.
	Oh, no.
	For 20 years, I've been listening to you been lying.
	Is that true?
	Is that true?
	Oh, my God.
	So that is the beautiful part about data, that people get to come back and show numbers, and then you get to make a decision for yourself.
	And trust me, the people that are doing it right, they don't like this type of data.
	I was in insurance, and a lot of times, you know, it was Medicare insurance, Armenian, this, Armenian, that.
	It's like, you know what?
	It's not wrong.
	It's not wrong.
	There was a lot of it going on in Glendale, North Hollywood, a lot of these places.
	It was.
	So what are we going to say?
	That's everybody?
	No, that doesn't mean it's everybody, but that does mean a bigger percentage does it, and it needs to be addressed.
	And there's nothing wrong with that.
	Somebody needs to address it.
	Hopefully the right people will.
	Let's go to the next story here, which has to do with, I'm going to go to this one here with Trump attacks NBC and ABC networks, wants FCC to revoke their license.
	This is a pretty heavy statement to be making.
	to revoke a license despite a very high popularity and according to many among the greatest eight months in presidential history, ABC and NBC fake news, to the worst and most biased networks in history.
	Give me a 97% bad stories.
	If that is the case, they are simply an arm of the Democratic Party and should, according to many, have their licenses revoked by the FCC.
	I would be totally in favor of that because they are biased and untruthful, an actual threat to democracy.
	MAGA, Tom, your thoughts on this?
	So when you say it that way, I wish the president had mentioned equal time.
	President Dutta did a really good job on the flag burning mentioning inciting riots because that's a law.
	That's a statute.
	You can investigate that.
	There is the equal time provision that when you are given a license by the FCC, there's equal time provision.
	And growing up, Pat, you and I may have remembered watching TV in California, in LA, you would have citizens that would give their opinion on the evening news.
	Do you remember this?
	Yes.
	You know, so someone would say there, hi, my name is Joyce Azerbaijan, and, you know, I live over here and I have an opinion about this.
	And she would read a statement and we'd say, the opinions of citizens are not necessarily the opinion of the network itself.
	However, are presented to give equal time.
	And that's what it used to be.
	All of that has been basically unenforced.
	And if you unenforce the speed limit, everybody is suddenly driving 80 miles an hour, 995.
	Guess what?
	That's what happens.
	So if you don't enforce this, then you get this.
	I wish Trump, rather than making it almost feel the doors kind of open with his statement here where people could say, oh, you're just being retaliatory.
	You're going after this.
	He's right on certain things, like giving percents about the stories that were never.
	But I wish he had mentioned the equal time.
	They are not giving equal time.
	There were supposed to be equal time provisions.
	There were supposed to be things and a lobbying.
	And it was like, this is a paid statement.
	The people that are selling bamboo steamers and Ginsu knives, they had to put those things.
	Remember this, Vinny?
	They said, this is a paid advertisement.
	For Ginsu.
	And you had to say it was a paid advertisement.
	Well, now you do have, you do have politics coming in and basically paying to get people on and doing things.
	So I wish Trump had been taken more to the hoop as saying they're going to lose their license if they're going to be biased one place and they're just going to be a tool and they're not going to be following the equal time provision and the other things.
	I think they could lose their license.
	The way he said it kind of made it sound like angry and I'm going after it.
	Very good point.
	Rob, can you go to ChatGPT and type the following thing?
	Is there equal time provision given by the FCC license?
	Just type in, is there equal time given by FCC license?
	Okay.
	Watch what comes up.
	Tom's making a very, very good point here.
	So if you go to the history of a 1934 equal time, okay, established under Commission Acts of 1934 and enforced by the Federal Communications Commission, FCC, requires that U.S. broadcast TV and radio give equal opportunity to all legally qualified political candidates for the same office if they request it.
	This doesn't mean equal airtime automatically.
	It applies when a station sells or gives airtime to one candidate.
	Then they must offer the same terms, time, rates, and conditions to others as well.
	Now, obviously, none of that is accurate with what happened with NBC and CBS and ABC.
	Now, if they choose to go after him, it's going to be a very slippery slope on what happens here.
	There's the good and there's a bad here.
	Let me tell you what the good and the bad is here.
	The good is they're going to be held accountable.
	That's the good.
	The bad is when the Democrats get elected, the same pressure is coming back again.
	Just letting you know.
	So this is great right now, conservatives, Republicans.
	Oh, my God, let me tell you, Google was at the White House for Trump's inauguration.
	They gave $2 million, $1 million.
	Bezos was there, and YouTube was there.
	Oh, my God.
	I see you guys in our search all the time.
	And it's a spot.
	Everybody's there, right?
	Facebook and giving $2 million for the party and ceremony.
	Is that how they're going to be when the Dems go in the White House?
	Are they going to show up the same way?
	I don't know.
	Are they going to be like, hey, you guys got to do something about that?
	I don't know.
	I hope America doesn't have a short-term memory and doesn't forget when the Twitter files and everything came out seeing that Biden was asking Twitter and others on what to do.
	We've never had YouTube files.
	We've never had Google files.
	We've never had any of these other files.
	We've only had Twitter files because a guy bought it named Elon Musk, right?
	So as much as we're going through this, I want accountability of that taking place.
	The Dems are going to remember when they come to office, they're going to be targeting people left and right in ways we've not seen before.
	If Trump pushes extremely hard on everything, it may be good while he's president.
	And maybe even if a Republican wins the next two terms, but eventually Democrats' turns is going to come and they're going to play ball in a major way.
	So whatever way they make these changes, I hope it's permanent changes.
	It's not temporary changes.
	Viny, you look like you're in a city.
	I think it should be permanent because think about, and you made a great point earlier.
	Now, if somebody says something on anywhere, person, live, television network, Tom, I could go right on my phone and be like, no, you're actually right.
	Or you're actually wrong.
	Think about for how long, how many decades we had it where whatever that channel told us, it was fact.
	Whatever that channel told us, it was fact.
	And I love the fact about accountability because in all fairness, nobody's ever been gone after as much as he has.
	And like, for instance, like the networks knowingly, CNN, knowingly, knowing Russia was all BS, Pat, and getting paid to do it.
	And look what they did.
	They destroyed people's lives.
	I still don't, I have people in my life that I love that still won't talk to me because of what they brainwashed them to think that this guy was Hitler, that this guy was a Nazi.
	And a great point, Adam, that they downplayed that word.
	The left made the word Hitler and Nazi, those words, kind of like, eh, whatever.
	If Hitler's like Trump, then what?
	He liked the, like, it's unbelievable.
	And the main one, COVID.
	How are none of these networks?
	How is nobody at CNN, MSNBC, going to get in trouble at all?
	Was anybody held accountable, Pat, for somebody, Cuomo, all these guys go in front of a camera and making people saying, if you don't get this experimental crap in your body, you're the enemy.
	They literally call this enemy.
	So now with myocarditis and sudden death is on a freaking on a rise, is anybody going to get it?
	I think that's the right place to go after.
	I think that's the right place to go after because, you know, anchors and journalists played doctor.
	They played doctor.
	And they told you what to do or else, boom.
	If you don't have a bed, too bad.
	Die.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my God.
	I don't know who said it.
	Kimmel, Weezy.
	Bye-bye, Weezy.
	So, you know, these are the things that you should go after because to me, that was the American people.
	Okay, that was the American people.
	The more he goes and targets those stories that are emotional to the voter, I think that's the right move.
	This is more emotional to you.
	I think you won.
	In a let me let me put it to you this way.
	I don't know any other way to put it.
	Forget about how when we won the hockey, you know, the what's the name?
	Stanley Cup?
	No, no, no, not Stanley Cup.
	The way U.S.-Russia was a U.S.-Russia, right?
	What is the game?
	That was the Olympics.
	The miracle on ice, right?
	Forget about that.
	Forget about the comeback of the Red Sox.
	Forget about the comeback of, you can go and look at all of these stories.
	There's never in the history of mankind been a bigger comeback than what the president did.
	Never.
	It does not exist.
	That's number one.
	You won.
	Not go fight for the people like you're doing.
	So my focus will be: you make a very good point.
	Go after that story.
	Target that.
	If this is an angle to go there, go do it.
	And I actually think he should pursue this as well.
	But I think Tom's right, maybe messaging to be in a little bit more of, you know, these guys play doctor and they're not doctors.
	You're not a doctor.
	What are you doing telling other people?
	We will bring experts.
	Podcasters will bring experts and talk.
	Here's what I take.
	You better or else.
	Yeah.
	A little too problematic.
	Adam, thoughts.
	Yeah.
	Well, regarding Trump versus the media, I used to get really upset with Trump in 2016 when he would attack the media.
	You're fake news.
	You know, he would say things like, the media is the enemy of the people.
	And I was, what?
	I mean, this is 10 years ago almost.
	Is this guy for real?
	What is he?
	That was two months ago.
	No, when it first came out, correct.
	And the media would say, this is what Stalin used to use.
	This is what autocrats and dictators.
	And for people that basically had TDS or were developing TDS at the time, it started to break people's brains.
	And I admit, I was like, what is this guy?
	What?
	You know, media is the, what do they call it?
	The fourth estate.
	Like, this is what keeps people in check.
	And what I realized slowly, but slowly, but surely, is that he was actually right.
	You know, Trump wears the hat.
	Trump was right about everything.
	The media did not, they were not journalists anymore.
	They became activists.
	And you always hear about the weaponization of justice, the weaponization of justice.
	I can't believe he's attacking his critics.
	What about the weaponization of media?
	You know, he talked about in this story here, 92 to 97% negative.
	Well, if you just do it based on approval ratings, just that alone, at the very least, it should be 40, you know, 50, 50, 40, 60 based on approval ratings.
	But 92 to 97% negative coverage.
	And we saw it play out over the media, but we saw it play out even more on late night comedy.
	100% of the jokes and the guests were all on the left.
	And if they had a guest, it'd be freaking Liz Cheney, who is heading the January 6th committee.
	So to me, it's all fabricated.
	It's all fake.
	And I will say, Fox News does this on the right, but not as bad as they do on the left.
	But you make a good point, but at the same time, it's like, has fun, and get it.
	I get it.
	They're going to a certain audience.
	They're going for the Republicans, and the left is going to the left.
	But I've never seen them like push a hoax or like a fake thing.
	Like, like, what?
	They did kind of push that Dominion thing a little bit.
	They had to pay almost a billion dollars for that.
	So that came to my point.
	That's a legal thing, but as we've learned, you can hack any machine because we had a guest on here that proved it.
	Court is a whole different thing.
	But yeah, I got it.
	Let me go to this next story here, which is extremely important for those of you guys that travel, especially if you travel Southwest.
	I know how painful this is for some of you.
	Painful.
	And some of you guys, it's a warning because some people are going to think this is discriminating.
	But Southwest rolls out new conditions for plus-size passengers refunds.
	Starting January 27th, when flights with assigned seating being taking off, plus-size passengers should proactively purchase the needed number of seats prior to travel to ensure the additional adjacent seat is available.
	As stated on Southwest Airlines' website, to advise potential customers, Southwest website lists a seat width on the Boeing 737 models.
	It flies from 15 and a half inches at the narrowest to 17.8 inches at the widest with the arms at the definite seat boundary.
	Jeff Jenkins, founder of plus size travel blog Chubby Diaries, told USA Today, I just hope the consumers are aware of this change.
	And I wonder if plus size people will skip out on flying with them at all because of them not knowing if the flight is sold out or not, expressing concerns.
	Rob, do you want to play this clip?
	We think that this policy change risks increasing body shame.
	We already know that plus size passengers are, you know, verbally harassed, are videotaped, are sometimes even physically assaulted on flights.
	Southwest Airlines is changing a long-standing policy for plus-size travelers.
	For years, quote, customers of size were encouraged to buy two seats, then apply for a refund after their trip, a process that had fewer restrictions on when refunds would be provided.
	But starting January 27th, refunds will only be granted if three conditions are met.
	The flight must depart with at least one open seat.
	Both seats must be in the same fare class, and refund requests must be filed within 90 days of travel.
	The refund policy is going to be so much more restricted to you only being able to get a refund for your second seat if the flight was not full, which many Southwest flights are full.
	This is not a policy that was bankrupting Southwest, and therefore they've changed it.
	It's part of their whole package of sort of nickeling and diamond customers more.
	The updated policy goes into effect the same day the airline switches to assigned seating on all of its flights.
	The question always comes down to: do you believe that people who are traveling by plane are paying for passage from point A to point B?
	Or do you believe that they're paying for like butt space?
	Southwest was the best thing that we had for somebody who either couldn't afford to be able to get the waitress.
	What did she say?
	Go back again?
	Or who could go back, Rob, again?
	From point A to point B. Are they paying to go from point A to point B or butt space?
	Yeah, you're right.
	Southwest was the best thing that we had for somebody who either couldn't afford to speak.
	I don't understand this.
	So if you live in a family of five, can you fit in a one-bedroom apartment?
	Probably not.
	You probably need three bedrooms.
	Are you taking too much space?
	Is that fat shaming?
	So what do we call that?
	Big family shaming?
	Procreative shaming?
	What do we call that thing?
	Is there shaming going there?
	No.
	Somebody wants to have more kids.
	You want to eat more.
	You know, one is not 300 pounds by accident.
	It just doesn't happen.
	Whenever I'm out of shape, it didn't accidentally happen and I'm out of shape.
	I got out of shape.
	Okay.
	If you put on weight or any of this, South Definite.
	So I kind of like what Southwest is doing here.
	I do think the problem is going to be the following.
	Say you don't buy the extra ticket, Vinny.
	Yeah.
	Just visually go with me.
	Okay.
	I'm not big.
	You're big.
	You're above the seven.
	Let me get nine inches.
	Yeah.
	So you're big.
	That's right.
	And we're outside before you get on.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Everybody knows this is the new rule.
	Yeah.
	So you got 300 passengers in line.
	They're all pointing at you.
	Yeah.
	And they're just waiting to see who's going to be sitting next to that person.
	And you go up and they notice you've only bought one ticket.
	Uh-oh.
	Some of the most viral videos the next three to six months are going to be those.
	Uh, what do you call it?
	The rage.
	How dare you call me plus?
	This is body shape.
	It's going to happen.
	Oh, a thousand percent.
	And you know, this is going to be rough, though.
	What I'm visually, you're going to have to go there.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You ready for this?
	No.
	Vinny, I promise you, you're visually going to go there.
	Okay.
	You know, when you bring these things, the bags, and you say, no, it's going to fit in this thing.
	And you're pushing it in there.
	So you're going to have to push people.
	No, my hips fit.
	Are we going to have a measuring device at 17?
	In Chinese, can you push it?
	Excuse me.
	If you can't fit in here, you can't get on.
	So imagine they're like, so you jump in it, but the things roll up.
	Oh, man.
	Like, you know what I'm saying?
	If it rolls up, so you're like, no, I'm good.
	They're like, no, but this is going to fall on somebody.
	Yeah, I'm going to hold my hips.
	I think this is going to be such negative blowback, whatever you want to call it on Southwest, but videos going viral, but it's going to be some of the most embarrassing.
	It may cause people to want to go on Southwest flights for no reason just to see people there.
	Like, can you imagine?
	You book a flight, you're like, oh, I want to see what's going to happen to this person.
	It's going to go viral.
	Get it.
	She's screaming.
	Throw her flip-flop.
	Goojo.
	Right?
	Yep.
	It's going to be.
	Matter of fact, we're going to fly Southwest to Orlando.
	That's what we're going to do.
	Let's do it.
	Yes, we're going to Southwest.
	Go ahead, Tom.
	No, so Southwest did it to itself because what it did is it said, okay, plus-size passengers had to buy two tickets.
	This is a fact.
	And I've known people that had to do this.
	Nice people, people that were respectful, but had arrived at a condition for whatever reason, and they buy two tickets.
	What Southwest would say previously, remember, there's no assigned seating in Southwest.
	So they just sit down.
	So they take the window in the middle and they say, they show, I've paid for two.
	I've seen it.
	Now, if the flight was not sold out, in other words, there was space, then Southwest would refund the second ticket because they say, well, we didn't sell out the flight.
	The seat would have been there anyway, and you got to use it.
	That I think was a mistake for Southwest.
	I agree.
	I'm with that.
	If I'm doing it the right way, just give that back to me and you still take that money.
	I'm not okay with that.
	Yeah.
	And so everybody else, you know, nobody else gets to go in and say, wait a minute, my carry-on was only four pounds because it's just my laptop.
	Should you give me part of my ticket back?
	Because Vinny's got a backpack and a giant laptop.
	You know, no.
	So that was the old way.
	The old way, they buy two tickets on their call Southwest.
	Hey, there is open seats.
	And so can I get refunded?
	Now they're saying with assigned seating, this is more difficult.
	Now you need assigned seating.
	Make sense?
	So the flight attendants can't say, well, you could sit there and you could sit there.
	And you can move here and you can move here.
	Because there's been situations, you see people traveling with kids.
	And someone's in group C, a lady with a kid and says, hey, I got a six-year-old girl here.
	I don't want to put her in the middle seat between these two people she doesn't know.
	And somebody says, hey, could you move?
	And they do it nicely.
	And so the flight attendants do it.
	Well, now you got to sign seats.
	And you're going to have a business class and a regular class.
	So now Southwest is, they painted themselves kind of in a corner where now it makes it look like they're taking something away when they were giving something beneficial to people out of their own sort of activism rather than saying, hey, you're larger.
	You paid for two seats.
	Okay, fine.
	And you know what?
	Like, and here's the thing.
	What nobody's really talking about.
	How about get your ass in shape?
	Like the fact that we're at the point where you're just like not even trying to change.
	It's not like she caught fat.
	You know what I mean?
	You didn't just catch it.
	You know what I mean?
	Why did you know?
	Bro, I got hit.
	You know what?
	Blue Ocean.
	You got caught by the shit.
	Somebody should open up a freaking airline and call it big booty air or big ass air.
	No seats.
	Just get all the big ass people in there, throw snacks, some sodas, and be like, guys, eat crap, do whatever you lay on each other.
	We're going to go to Vegas in 45 minutes.
	It's like that should be motivating you instead of sitting there complaining about my hip is going to be, I'm not going to pay.
	How about get in shape?
	Get in shape.
	I know that there's some people out there that have a disease.
	You know how small the bathrooms are, right?
	There's so much.
	I was on a Southwest flight.
	I think it was a miracle.
	This enormously large guy goes in the bathroom.
	I didn't know how he fit in there.
	He gets in there and they close the door.
	He comes out five minutes later.
	He was still square for a while.
	Like a pack, like a cookie doll in a freaking tube.
	Ugh.
	What?
	No, that was great.
	Big booty.
	This is what they call body shaming.
	Adam.
	You guys are body shaming today.
	Are you comfortable talking about this?
	I'm very comfortable.
	Well, this whole coddling of the American mind and using terms that are inclusive, it's like, you're not plus sized.
	You're not full-figured.
	You're just fat.
	You're obese.
	What figure?
	What are you, a hexagon?
	So all these words that have been changed, all these words that have been changed, you know, you're no longer a, you're no longer a woman.
	You're a birthing person.
	You know, you have a front hole, not a uterus anymore.
	They're not illegal aliens.
	They're newcomers.
	Welcome.
	Come on in.
	Here's your EBD card.
	I'm spherically enhanced.
	There you go, Tom.
	All these things.
	You're not homeless.
	You're unhoused.
	Just stop it.
	You're big.
	You're fat.
	You're ugly.
	Deal with it.
	What's happened is people want to use inclusive language and they want to feel like everyone wants to feel the protector feelings and safe spaces.
	And I get it.
	But what happens is you create an entire civilization, a generation of soft individuals.
	We see the stories about kids bringing their parents to job interviews, right?
	It's like you're raising these kids to be completely soft.
	What's happening also is shaming needs to be okay.
	Dude, you are fat.
	Get in the gym.
	Like you just said.
	I'll tell you one last story.
	As far as like, you said it could be a business model about getting your money back if you're sitting next to a big fat person on a plane.
	One time before we started flying private, things are going real word at Value Taint World.
	We flew out to LA.
	It was me, you, and Tigran.
	I don't know if you remember.
	And you were sitting at the front.
	Tigran, I don't know where he was sitting, but I was in the back, PBD.
	And I told him, put him all the way in the back by the bathroom.
	I was all the way back there.
	I really was.
	And I said, at the very least, get me a window seat.
	And there it was.
	You know, like you think you have the middle seat open.
	And then it's like, well, we're done loading with the passengers.
	We got a couple more passengers.
	And then you see her, big Bertha coming down the aisle.
	I'm looking around.
	I see every seat taken.
	And I see a middle seat next to me.
	And it's just like, boom, boom.
	Here she comes.
	I'm like, oh, she's coming this way.
	And then it's like, excuse me, you're next to my seat.
	I'm like, oh, Tigrin comes to the bathroom about an hour later.
	He sees me.
	I'm like, in the window.
	He just laughs at me.
	I would have got a refund for that, according to South North Airlines.
	Yeah, I mean, because big girls need love too.
	But not fun to sit next to that lady.
	On a serious angle, a serious number, you talk about number scream, Tom.
	How many percent of Americans are obese?
	45%.
	42% of Americans, that's 141 million Americans are obese.
	10% are severely obese.
	All right.
	And kids and teens ages 2 to 19, 20% of the kids are obese and it's borderline getting fat.
	I'm not putting this on.
	I'm sorry.
	It is what it is.
	Get your ass in shape.
	And by the way, when a kid, when you see a kid, Pat, when you see a six-year-old, seven-year-old, like, that's child abuse.
	What are you feeding that shit?
	This is why RFK is so against what we're feeding kids.
	Remember, speaking to RFK, do you remember the video you showed one time?
	Get the soda kids out of schools of JFK and saying, basically, like, our kids have not used to go to the gym.
	Our kids are getting fat now, and we need a kid who can do a push-up and a sit-up.
	We've gained so much weight.
	It is.
	We've gained so much weight as a country in the last 50 years that this is sort of the remedy.
	Here's the reality.
	I don't want to spend this much time on these stories.
	I'm going to go through it faster.
	But the point is, this is happening.
	It's real, causing Southwest Airlines to expose it because it's costing them money.
	They need to make money.
	But at the same time, unfortunately, it's also the reason why so many people are using GLP ones.
	It's also why Ozempic is on fire right now.
	I see some people I haven't seen for a year.
	I see them.
	I'm like, I don't even recognize you.
	What happened to you?
	And I'm like, Jen's like, babe, did you see that?
	Yeah.
	Is that her sister or is that her?
	No, that's her.
	Wow.
	They split in half.
	Yeah.
	And I know it's not because they're 24-7 working at four or five o'clock in the morning training.
	It's a magic.
	It's a magic.
	The shortcut system is also there.
	So you want me to not body shame?
	I'll take the pill, but I'm not going to the gym.
	There's never been more of a time to have data to help you be healthier than today.
	Never.
	This is the best time ever to be healthy.
	The data's out there.
	So, anyways, let's go to the next story here.
	Next story I want to get into is a story of what happened with the truck driver Rob.
	Do you have the clip of what happened here?
	So there's a fatal car crash.
	Fatal truck drivers.
	They go out there and you've seen this clip.
	Okay.
	You've seen the clip.
	If you have any of it, Rob.
	Is that the one?
	This is it.
	Okay.
	Can we actually show this?
	It's yeah, go ahead.
	Watch this clip here.
	Go ahead.
	So these guys are truck drivers.
	He's making a U-turn.
	Look at, look.
	And that's just a family, three people.
	Boom.
	Like, what are you doing?
	So they hit.
	And the person went under, like, Pat, he makes a K-turn, and the car goes, and they crush all the people inside the freaking family.
	It's a van.
	It's a van.
	Yeah, I don't think it was a family, but it's a minivan, and there's three people in there.
	Walk me through this.
	He's driving.
	So he goes, oh, I need to go back that way in the freeway.
	Turns that big ass thing around.
	He goes back.
	He made a U-turn with a semi by pulling over to the far right side and then swinging.
	In the middle.
	The turnpike.
	So Florida turnpike.
	How fast are you going to get it?
	You know, on the highway, they have a little break for 70 miles an hour.
	This is not like you're doing it in a street going 35.
	Florida turnpike, you can go 70 miles an hour.
	Vancom's hit.
	And obviously, it's a tragic incident that happens.
	Now, watch this.
	The driver is an illegal immigrant truck driver accused of causing a crash on Florida Turnpike in Fort Pierce, August 12th, killed three people, has garnered 2.5 million signatures as of Sunday afternoon to this is a 28-year-old man.
	The petition posted on change.org, addressed to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and the Florida Board of Executive Clemency states this was a tragic accident, not a deliberate act, and argues while accountability matters, the severity of the charges against him does not align with the circumstances of the incident.
	It requests a proportionate and reasonable sentence if convicted, parole eligibility after part of the sentence is served, and consideration of alternatives like counseling.
	You make a U-turn.
	You're illegal here.
	Three people die.
	You want counseling and community service.
	Harjinder Singh was operating a commercial semi-truck with a trailer when he allegedly attempted a U-turn in an unauthorized area.
	Causing a trailer to jackknife and collide with a minivan, killing all three passengers.
	What does Governor DeSantis do?
	Rob, do you have that clip of Governor DeSantis?
	Here's what he's doing.
	Go ahead, Rob.
	We had an issue where you had an illegal alien truck driver that got a commercial driver's license in the state of California, employed by a California company, kill three people in Florida.
	This guy didn't even speak English.
	We're bringing him up on charges.
	He's going to face a lot.
	And I can announce, Jesse, that I said initially the company needs to be held accountable.
	And we've been working with the federal government and they are pulling that company's license to do business because you cannot employ somebody who cannot read the road signs.
	Why is he spending all this time, you know, trying to be fresh with President Trump?
	Why doesn't he do his job and protect the people?
	And as much as we somehow poke fun at California oftentimes because of all the problems that the liberal policies have allowed, that is spilling over into the rest of the country.
	And Florida is a tragic example with three of our fellow citizens who were dead because of his sanctuary policy.
	Okay, so direct call out right there of this taking place.
	Vinny, what else do we know about the story?
	I mean, well, first of all, I sent Rob.
	Rob, I sent you a clip.
	I believe I sent you this morning.
	Pat, there's footage of him, Harjinder Singh, from August 3rd, 2025, released by Mexico State, showing him talking to an officer who at the time he couldn't even understand him.
	Like, this is the clip of him.
	He's already been.
	This is the one that you'll take care of within 30 days, okay?
	And then just choose one of those options right there.
	Thank you, sir.
	We're welcome.
	This one right here is your inspection, okay?
	Thank you, sir.
	Drag safely, all right?
	Thank you.
	Have a good one, sir.
	No worries.
	I feel bad being the first guy to write you a ticket, but I try to help you.
	What's that?
	They send the ticket in the Domai Credit.
	I guess I don't understand what it is.
	Maybe in that, this is my ticket under my license.
	How many years?
	He doesn't know it.
	Pat, if you're a cop, he doesn't even know how to speak it.
	What is he asking him, Rob?
	He's like, he's like, do I have to pay the ticket or where do I have to pay?
	He doesn't even know.
	The cop has no idea what he's saying.
	So the fact that this guy went to the, and this is going back to Gavin Newsom, the frontrunner for the president of the United States, he goes there and the sanctuary says, you don't even need an ID to vote.
	You don't need an ID to vote.
	You don't even need who how does that guy he failed?
	Apparently, Pat, he failed the English proficiency test answering two out of 12 questions, right?
	And recognizing just one of four traffic signs.
	And I think, I think, think about it.
	Gavin let him come in, like get the license and come here and he killed three people.
	What at the direction of Ron DeSantis, I would go after Gavin Newsom.
	I would go after Gavin Newsome.
	You let somebody come in that came here and killed Floridians.
	Okay.
	And what by the way, two and a half million people.
	This is the worst thing.
	Two and a half million Americans are signing a petition to free him.
	Like, where's the outrage when Americans are murdered or left behind by the freaking government or millions who rally?
	Like, what are we even talking about, Tom?
	How upside down is it that Americans are going after this guy?
	It's crazy.
	In other states, he would not have been able to get the Class C license because he didn't have English proficiency or recognize the road signs.
	Apparently, under whatever testing they do in California, he got the Class C license.
	So he had a legal license and then commits what should be in the brain of every truck driver, a never do.
	Like never, never, never do this.
	And yet he did it.
	And, you know, if you're drunk and you do something with your vehicle, it's vehicular manslaughter.
	So now people are not liking that Florida is saying this is vehicular manslaughter.
	This is gross negligence resulting not in property damage, but death.
	And in other states, you wouldn't even have a Class C license because you wouldn't pass the proficiency.
	Hey, what do these 10 signs mean?
	Which is really important.
	And so that's what I think is shocking.
	That part one.
	And part two, I share with you is what do these people think they're protesting, signing this petition?
	What are exactly they're protesting?
	Oh, let him go.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Let him go.
	Vehicle or manslaughter isn't manslaughter.
	What are they signing?
	Why do they let them go?
	Why do they think that this guy needs the help of public opinion in the form of a petition?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like, I get it.
	Okay, probably a nice guy.
	He seems pretty nice, but you didn't.
	He had no business having a freaking Class C license, Tom.
	And here's the question: is it a company that gives it to you or just the state of California?
	State of California.
	Okay, so like you get a driver's license and there's a motorcycle license.
	There's also Class C license to drive a school bus, drive this.
	There's the levels of licenses.
	The state gives it to you.
	And if he had one from California, he either got it legally or something got finagled and he got the license.
	If you're in the transportation business and you see the story, you're shitting bricks right now because the people that you're hiring as truck drivers, if you don't do that additional background check and find out who's driving your truck and you're doing 22 million a year or 80 million a year or 228 million a year and they pull your license as a company, you're screwed.
	You're closed.
	Yeah, you're closed.
	Guess what?
	Hundreds of jobs are gone.
	I get a maneck this morning by a guy that asked me specifically about compliance.
	He's trying to sell his business for $70 million.
	But the industry he's in is becoming hardcore compliant.
	And it's like, what do I do with the compliance side of my business?
	I'm going through it, et cetera, et cetera.
	And my response to him was very simple.
	Yeah.
	I'm scared of a multi-million dollar operation scale into $70 million.
	My hurdle is that our industry is heavily regulated compliance has shifted from being a back office function to the single biggest driver to carry your relationship and valuation.
	Everything is going into compliance now.
	When that happened to our business, and I saw that taking place in 2012, 2013, when the CEO of multiple insurance companies were being grilled by Elizabeth Warren, and I said, Yep, we got to make the big 2011.
	I brought the best compliance folks, everybody in.
	If you're a business owner in transportation and that business is a little bit of a gray business, you best get your compliance together, ASAP.
	I talk to a lot of guys in the transportation business.
	You best make that investment to compliance ASAP and double verify that person being a legal driver.
	Don't just do because you're going to make more money.
	You know, you could save $500, ends up costing you tens of millions of dollars.
	Make that additional investment for your compliance.
	Adam, your thoughts on this story.
	Yeah, it sucks that this happened here in Florida because, Pat, as you always say, bad policies have consequences, elections have consequences.
	These are, unfortunately, some of the consequences of bad policies in California.
	So this guy, his name is what?
	Harjinder Singh.
	You know, he came in through the Mexico border.
	I'm going to go on a limb here and say he's not naturally born Mexican citizen.
	He's probably not from Venezuela or he's probably not from El Salvador.
	I'm assuming Mr. Singh, S-I-N-G-H, is Sikh or Punjabi or Indian.
	And to be frank, seems like a nice guy just trying to make a living, drive a truck.
	But unfortunately, he's been granted access to drive recklessly on the streets of America under no accountability of thanks to Gavin Newsom out there.
	And I don't even know if speaking English is a requirement to drive trucks or even to get a driver's license in this country.
	Believe me, all my Ubers, 2% of them actually speak English here in Miami.
	Cuban, Venezuelan, Colombian.
	There's no English when they're driving the Uber.
	But to drive a truck?
	Yeah.
	A truck?
	On the highway?
	Yeah, but that's a whole different level.
	Let me tell you, there's a part of that.
	You know, over-regulation, underregulation.
	Where is the right part?
	For driving, I'd be on the side of over-regulation.
	I don't know about over-regulation.
	I think it's the right healthy amount of regulation.
	You don't want to put a chokehold as well because if these guys are not driving, you don't have gifts for family.
	You don't have AC.
	You don't have a lot of different things that's being moved.
	I just think you need the right appropriate compliance.
	Part of it is regulated by the state.
	Part of it is a federal thing because let's just say I run a transportation company out of L.A., but I'm driving to Florida back.
	I'm a national officially, my compliance is no longer just in the States.
	I'm national.
	It's a federal thing, right?
	Then, so it's got federal, statewide, and then I have to deal with certain things as a company.
	I don't know.
	I just, this concerns the hell out of me because that could be you.
	So imagine you're driving the car.
	Somebody calls you.
	For a split second, you look down to check the phone.
	You're reading the text.
	Everybody does it.
	You look up, you're dead.
	That's what happened to that van.
	You know who that can happen to?
	Anybody that can happen to.
	All of us.
	All of us.
	The first thing I think about, this is why on Manek, I'm happy now because finally people can ask me questions in audio.
	You know, intentionally I asked for that.
	I asked for that request because now 30 seconds, somebody can ask you a question in audio.
	We can hear your voice.
	So we can be boom, boom, boom, respond.
	Instead of reading and responding back to, it's a very slippery slope.
	And man, my heart breaks for that family of three that were not expecting anything to be done.
	That said, you will never see that brother, that sister, that father, that cousin, that best friend.
	You'll never see them again.
	It's over.
	All those memories, gone, like this.
	So heartbreaking.
	I don't like to see things like this that's taking place.
	Anyways, let's go to the next story that I'm going to, let me see what story I got here.
	So Chinese 600,000.
	So Trump opens up the door to 600,000 Chinese students amid Beijing trade talk.
	So first, Trump threatens 200% tariffs on China over a key part that shut down U.S. car plants.
	Okay, so this is straight up the same day he's doing this, he's doing the other side.
	He says, Trump says, if I wanted to destroy China, I would, but I want to have a great relationship with them.
	Rob, I know I just called you G, Rob.
	If we have a couple of these clips, I want to go through it.
	Is this one I want to have a good relationship with them?
	This is the 200% tariffs.
	I also have that one.
	Okay, so let's go with the 200% tariffs and we'll go through these and we'll react.
	But we have a very strong relationship, Howard, I would say, economically with China now getting much better.
	They have to give us magnets.
	If they don't give us magnets, then we have to charge them 200% tariff or something, you know?
	But we're not going to have a problem, I don't think, with that.
	I think that's perhaps behind us.
	You know, China intelligently went and they sort of took a monopoly of the world's magnets.
	And nobody needed magnets until they convinced everybody 20 years ago, let's all do magnets.
	There were many other ways that the world could have gone.
	But so for it'll take us probably a year to have them.
	We're heavy into the world of magnets now, only from a national security standpoint.
	But we have a powerful thing.
	It's airplane parts.
	They have many Boeing jets.
	You know, they had 200 jets that didn't fly.
	And I've sent them all based on his word.
	I sent them all of the parts so their planes can fly.
	I could have held them back.
	I didn't do that because of the relationship I have.
	And their planes are now flying.
	You know, we had 200 of their planes were unable to fly because we were not giving them Boeing parts purposely because they weren't giving you right there.
	So he's doing this.
	He's doing the Trump negotiation thing.
	The Magnus, they convince.
	I hope they don't do that.
	We'll see.
	If they don't, 200% tariffs.
	We don't want to do that.
	We want to have a good relationship.
	And this is what?
	This is him and Xi?
	This is where he says he could destroy China in front of them.
	We're going to have a great relationship with China.
	I mean, it's happening.
	You see it.
	It's happening.
	They have some cards.
	We have incredible cards, but I don't want to play those cards.
	If I played those cards, that would destroy China.
	I'm not going to play those cards.
	It's so typical of Trump.
	Oh, my God.
	He's sitting right there.
	You saw the face of the other guy.
	The other guy's just like.
	So, Tom, three things here.
	600,000 Chinese students.
	Rob, do you have that one?
	That's this one right here.
	Go ahead, keep going.
	President Xi would like me to come to China.
	It's a very important relationship.
	As you know, we're taking a lot of money in from China because of the tariffs and different things.
	It's a very important relationship.
	We're going to get along good with China.
	I hear so many stories about we're not going to allow their students.
	We're going to allow their students to come in.
	We're going to allow, it's very important.
	600,000 students.
	It's very important.
	But we're going to get along with China.
	But it's a different relationship that we have now.
	Tom, three topics, specifically China relationship.
	600,000 students, 200% tariffs.
	Thoughts on this?
	So, first of all, the president's making nothing signed, and the president is trying to set the table to have a relationship with China or to have some kumbaya here to get to the real meat.
	This is just the order of some salad.
	The meat of the meal is the big-time trade deal and what's going on.
	And magnets is one of the key items.
	That's why he's bringing it up.
	Chips is one of the others.
	Security for Taiwan is one of the others.
	So there is a big negotiation coming up.
	Step one, make everybody feel good.
	However, in one of these steps, 600,000 students coming to the U.S., China has been trying to get more students here as part of their cradle to the grave spy program.
	And so it would seem to me that if we suddenly open the doors to 600,000 Chinese students, good grief.
	They buy up land next to our military bases.
	They're buying up farmland.
	It seems to me that this particular item, I want to see the fine print, PBD, but it would concern me that you're basically giving them the ability to say, oh, these 600,000 students, but some of them are obviously spy plants.
	And so that makes me kind of nervous because I know what he's trying to do.
	Relationship first, where we got a good relationship, get some parts for airplanes.
	Step one, get the big trade deal.
	But along the way, this to me just seems very...
	The 600 makes you uncomfortable?
	Yeah, it makes me damn uncomfortable because they're trying to get here.
	Do you think that is one of the chips that China is putting in here that in order for them to agree to XYZ, you have to allow 600,000 of our students to come to you?
	They get trained here and then come back to China.
	Do you think that's one of China's important asks?
	I think so.
	Okay, because I know that Xi thinks long.
	I know.
	China thinks long term.
	We only have three and a half years left with President Trump, and that's a long time for him.
	But a longer time is these Chinese students in the next 30 years are going to be in politics.
	They're going to have influence in companies and they're going to report things back to China.
	Their loyalty is going to be to possibly them.
	Would you put that as one of the chips if in return you're able to get Panama Canal?
	Let's process that.
	You're representing Trump.
	I'm representing China.
	Hey, Tom, we will allow the C.K. Hutchinson deal to go through, and that's going to give you the Panama Canal, okay?
	Which is a big risk for us.
	Some would even say it's a greater risk.
	But in return, you have to allow me to have 600,000 students of ours to come to U.S. and be educated in your country.
	I would do that deal, and I'll tell you why.
	Because I get the canal done, and then I get my people and Panama's people in the joint military exercise there.
	So now it's secure.
	Yeah.
	And then later, I can filter and I can put restrictions on who's coming in.
	And I can do monitoring.
	So if it's canal first and then everything else, I can always change the immigration status and the observation, my surveillance later.
	Vinny.
	I have a problem.
	I have a problem with it.
	I have a huge, huge problem.
	And I get the tactical business negotiation standpoint, but that 600 students from China is not America.
	600,000.
	My bad.
	600,000 is not.
	Let's not forget China.
	I hate the word adversary.
	I know everybody wants to tell us that it's Russia and Israel.
	No, no.
	China is our number one enemy.
	Period, Pat.
	To me, end of story.
	Okay, this is the same country that unleashed COVID.
	Still, not one piece of accountability.
	Tom, you nailed it.
	Stealing all of our stuff, buying land next to all of our military bases, which I'm happy that they freaking finally banned.
	This news just came out.
	Buying farmland, sending spies over with crops to try to ruin our agriculture.
	This just came out today.
	Chinese doctor accused of stealing confidential U.S.-funded cancer research.
	Now you're going to let in 600,000 of these students.
	And Tom, just students, and I know he said that he might, he's going to vet them and stuff.
	You can't really trust them.
	I can't.
	And by the way, American kids can't afford college.
	Okay.
	Our kids are drowning in debt.
	All this is happening.
	And you're going to give over half a million of these kids.
	No, I don't like that, Pat.
	They've been robbing us for decades.
	I think America first is America first.
	Not China, not G, not Gavin Newsom.
	When this guy comes to freaking San Francisco, you toss out all the homeless people and wave Chinese flags, not American flags.
	I'm not with it at all, bro.
	This is, and I get everybody's always like, oh, you're supposed to, if you're, you love Trump, no, but hear me calling him.
	I don't like it.
	Put the uh, you know, yesterday we're having a conversation.
	I was obviously joking and I said, there's the emotional voter, there is the logical voter, okay?
	And we all first start off with which one?
	Emotion.
	All of us.
	100%.
	By the way, just me more than anybody.
	No, no, not you.
	I'm just saying every one of us.
	Of course.
	One of the things that what is the benefit of being a comedian?
	We emotionally fall in love with you.
	Like I have emotionally fallen in love with.
	When I sat in my bed and I'm showing all the clips to Jen, 30 clips back to back to back, and I'm laughing my ass off.
	I'm in the office.
	I'm like, this guy's freaking good.
	I love this guy.
	I've never met you in my life.
	I don't know who you are.
	I didn't even know there was an Assyrian comedian.
	Then you come in and then we sit.
	And then the relationship logically is like this could actually turn into something, right?
	Okay.
	Think, put a business hat on.
	Even though you've not been in business, you're making more money than you've ever made before in your life.
	So it's a special month, half a million.
	I know what's coming.
	All this stuff that you're doing, right?
	You're actually finally making real money for yourself.
	Okay.
	So you have the offer.
	I'm asking to represent America's long-term threats.
	You're saying China's long-term threat.
	You're trying to negotiate with this country and get them to do certain things they typically wouldn't do.
	You have one of two choices.
	You want me to approve the CK Hutchinson to allow BlackRock and whoever to buy it.
	So it's a U.S.-owned property, the Panama Canal, massive, the 43 ports, very important.
	You have to allow me to send 600,000 students to be able to get educated in your country.
	Go to the school.
	Which of those two is more important to you?
	The Hutchinson thing.
	So that means if the only thing to get that done was the 600, you'd have to do it on the business standard.
	Do you know why, though?
	Do you know why, though?
	So do you remember when all of a sudden, like, we couldn't get chips for cars?
	Yeah, you'd go to Rolex store.
	They don't have any watches.
	You'd go to stores.
	There's nothing.
	Used cars were selling more than brand new cars because you just couldn't find anything, right?
	That's because there was no access to supply.
	What if all of a sudden China's like, oh, really?
	No problem.
	Close the canal.
	Now what?
	Slow things down 30 days.
	Give a headache to U.S.
	Now what do you do?
	Now you have to go 14,000 miles instead of 9,000 miles.
	Now you have to go all the way down and come up versus boom and boom, come up, right?
	I think what we don't know that's being negotiated behind closed doors, we don't know what are the 20 things that are on the table.
	We don't know.
	And you have to decide for yourself, negotiating on behalf of America, is there's no way I'm giving up these five things.
	These five things I can't have them believe we'll give them up.
	But we'll say we'll think about it.
	But already in your mind, you're like, what?
	We'll give them up.
	No problem.
	Of course.
	But these five things we have to get.
	What are these five things?
	These five things are da-da-da-da-da.
	I think that's kind of where they're at.
	And I don't like the 600,000.
	Makes me extremely uncomfortable.
	But if we're giving that up to get three things that are going to protect us more long term for another black swan event to happen by China, I'm more interested in that.
	Adam, thoughts.
	So I just have a question for you, and then I'll make my point.
	You know how we do the star system, which stands for what?
	Systems, tech, action, or relationships?
	Is that the first thing?
	So people who are structured, like Tom, structurally organized.
	People who are technical like Tom, people who are action-oriented, competitive, psycho-competitors, and then R, relationship people, biz dev people.
	You're an R. You're a relationship guy.
	Yeah, I'm also somewhat of an S guy.
	What do you think Trump is?
	A, all the way.
	A is Trump is A first.
	Yes.
	I would probably put his A first.
	I would put probably SNR second, T last.
	I agree.
	You know why, S?
	Look at the way he dresses.
	Look at the way he likes glasses to be set when he's doing a video.
	He is so organized and that needs things to be done in a certain way.
	He's a maniacal S, but his A is an aggressive A.
	Yeah, I actually agree with you.
	The reason I asked that is because he's go, You know, they were playing a video the other day of him falling asleep when he got to, I think, Saudi.
	It's like, all right, after traveling for 15 hours, the guy does sleep.
	But I think we can all appreciate how hard this guy works.
	I also agree with you that he's got a system and his structure, but I would say that Trump is a big relationship guy.
	And if you're nice to him, he'll be nice to you.
	If you're mean to him, he'll be mean to you.
	That's pretty basic with Trump.
	He said nice things about me, Kim Jong-un, so now we're best friends.
	We understand that right there.
	So with this relationship with China, who was at the some higher up person in the Communist Party that came here?
	It wasn't she, obviously, right?
	That he was meeting with.
	Trump will say the exact opposite things about you in the same sentence.
	I love this guy.
	I'll kill him in a second if I have to, but I don't want to have to do that.
	I wouldn't do that.
	Love you, but I hate you.
	It doesn't matter.
	He could be your best friend or he can be your worst enemy.
	He's a deal maker and he's transactional.
	So Shane Gillis did a great impression of Trump when he was on SNL.
	And it was like Trump doing the dating game.
	He's like, I think you're hot.
	I think you're great.
	And she goes, now I'm not interested.
	You're ugly.
	You're disgusting.
	Why would I ever?
	He'll turn on you real quick.
	So if you want to play Trump, like if you actually want to do a deal with Trump, you kind of have to kiss his butt.
	This is why we see these world leaders, like when he goes to Saudi, they put up a portable McDonald's, right?
	Okay, obviously pandering to Trump.
	Qatar gave the guy a plane, right?
	The UK, when Kiera Starmer came over here, he's like, this is very special.
	We're giving you a free night stay at Buckingham Palace.
	Like, nobody gets this.
	He's like, well, thank you.
	The guy from South Africa, he came over and he's like, we gave you a book about golf.
	You can see it in Trump's face.
	He's kind of just like, I'd be happy with a golf course, not a book.
	But Trump is very transactional and he's relationship driven.
	I totally get it.
	But I mean, look, the reality of it is we don't have a clue what's going on behind closed doors and what's being negotiated.
	By the way, breaking news just came about Turkey furious with the fact that Netanyahu finally recognized the Armenian genocide.
	This story just dropped right now.
	So let me give you an idea what happened yesterday on the podcast with Bibi, Prime Minister Netanyahu, and the conversations that we had.
	There's a lot of topics.
	I wish we had two hours.
	I had a lot of things that I wanted to go through with him.
	This is specifically the part where I asked him about the Armenian, the Assyrian, and the Greek genocide.
	And here's what he had to say.
	Go ahead, Rob.
	You know, the Holocaust has been recognized by 193 different countries, right?
	Everybody around the world.
	And in some countries, if you denied, you could do jail time.
	Many countries, you can do jail time a year or five years.
	But for anybody that doesn't recognize Armenian, Assyrian genocide, if there's any country that I would have expected to be on the list that recognized the Armenian and the Assyrian and the Greek genocide, it would be Israel.
	Why haven't you yet recognized the Armenian, Assyrian, and the Greek genocide that the Turkish did to that community?
	In fact, I think we have because I think the Knesset passed a resolution to that effect.
	I don't know if it's come from you, though.
	I don't know if it's come from the prime minister of Israel.
	Yeah, I just did.
	Okay.
	Here you go.
	All right.
	Well, thank you for doing that.
	Boom.
	Okay.
	Thank you for having me.
	I appreciate you.
	That's important to me.
	And I'm sure a lot of Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks around the world appreciate you saying that.
	So that happened yesterday at the end of the podcast with the limited time that we had left.
	Armenians around the world reacted.
	Assyrians, even Greeks, there's government official Twitter accounts of all countries have posted on what happened with this.
	So it's official.
	They finally recognized, you know, the Assyrian-Armenian genocide as an event that took place.
	Great.
	Now, you know, when you do something like that, for many years, Turkey and Israel have had a decent relationship, you know, and Israel's even sold weapons, I think, and helped Azerbaijan.
	Azerbaijan's a direct, like, you know, the stuff that they did with Nagorno Garabag Artsakh.
	This is not a friendly relationship that this is going on.
	For them to take this position, automatically, it shows that their relationship with Turkey is not what it once used to be.
	Now, this is obviously due to Erdogan.
	Rob, can you pull up the story?
	Because I can't see anything here right now.
	There you go.
	Turkey slams Netanyahu for politically motivated recognition of Armenian genocide.
	This is times of Israel.
	If you can go a little bit lower, Turkey rejects remarks by Prime Minister Netanyahu yesterday, recognizing the genocide.
	If you can click on a link and go back to it, yeah, click on that.
	Just go back to the story.
	In first, Netyahu says he recognizes the Armenian genocide.
	So first, the story was written this morning at midnight.
	Go back to that.
	This was written this morning at midnight, 12.23 a.m.
	Go a little bit lower that the prime minister did this, et cetera, et cetera.
	I think we have.
	I think the Knesset passed a resolution to that effect, though no such legislation has been passed into law.
	Pressed on why Israel Prime Minister Netyahu responds, I just did.
	Here you go.
	Okay, so now go back to the story previous to that with Turkey.
	So this is the story, if you can allow me to read it.
	There you go.
	Nanyahu remarks concerning the events of 1915.
	And these ads suck on this website.
	Like, let it go, buddy.
	We're not going to buy it.
	Okay.
	1951 on our attempt to exploit past tragedies for political motives, writes Ankara, foreign minister and Turkish language statement saying we condemn and reject the statement, which is incompatible with historical and legal facts.
	Turkey repeats his accusation that Israel is caring out of genocide.
	And Gaza strips saying Netanyahu, who is on trial for his role in the genocide committed against the Palestinian people, is attempting to cover up the crimes committed by himself and his government.
	So now, this story here of starting our Urguana, France, Germany, Canada, Russia, and the United States have recognized the Armenian genocide, but Israel has long avoided this step, though a number of senior politicians have called for the move in recent years.
	Netanyahu's remarks marks the first time an Israel prime minister has done so, likely reflecting recently poor ties with Turkey, which has long rejected the characterization Turkish President Erdogan has repeatedly compared Israel to Nazi Germany over its war against Hamas and Gaza.
	So that's the story that we have there.
	Now, messaging that came in from Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks, Armenians.
	I don't care if he does this.
	I don't care what's going on.
	I don't give a, I don't want to hear nothing from him.
	Okay.
	Armenians.
	Oh my God.
	Emotional.
	Can't believe this finally took place.
	This is so insane that this is finally happening.
	We're so happy for you.
	Thank you.
	We appreciate you, Ahuni, Ahuni, all this Yekbar, all these messages that are coming.
	Greeks messaging me saying, dude, I didn't even know that you knew that Greeks were involved.
	We appreciate you for doing that because if you look at the history, Brob, can you pull up that one thing I sent to Adam yesterday?
	The picture that he just sent you.
	Yeah, if you can zoom in in this one, the list of genocides organized by Turkey for the last 200 years.
	And some of the stuff you can go verify the numbers.
	I don't know if it's 100% accurate with the numbers.
	So you got Greece, you got 50,000, 8,750.
	That's 1823.
	Continues with Mosul, Assyrians, 10,000.
	Goes lower.
	Armenians, 1,400, 1,250.
	Bulgaria, 1,400.
	Lebanon, 12,000.
	All this goes.
	Okay.
	Armenia, Armenia, Armenia, Armenian.
	Go to the top right.
	Okay.
	Over here, Macedonia, 14,000.
	Sassoon, Armenian, 5,600.
	Adana, 1909, 13.
	So Armenia, Western Armenia, 1.5 million.
	Greece, 150,000.
	Kars, 100,000.
	Pontus, 1919, 600,000.
	Mesopotamia, Assyrians, 750,000,000 is what these guys did, right?
	That till today, they don't want to recognize.
	So I understand that there's a community that really doesn't want to hear anybody because a lot of folks, Vinny, what was your reaction when this happened?
	When he sat there and said, it was like, as an Assyrian, yourself.
	As an Assyrian, it was such a mind, because think about it.
	And can I just say something too?
	For all the people out there, and guess what, Pat?
	There's no making everybody happy.
	And we understand that.
	No matter what you do, if you ask this, this side's going to be furious.
	If you didn't ask this, the other side's going to get furious.
	And everybody wants to play, you know, Monday day quarterback, Monday morning quarterback.
	What it's like, listen, A, we had, how long was the time?
	40 minutes.
	40 minutes.
	But initially, it was, you're only going to be allowed 30, but this guy, he was going.
	Nope.
	This is what I had to respect.
	No calling of you have to ask this.
	You can't ask this.
	You can't do this.
	It was, we're going to go live and we're going to ask whatever we want.
	Okay.
	And in all fairness, we did research.
	We looked at every other podcast.
	He's been asked every question that the majority of the other side wanted a thousand times.
	You wanted to ask a certain amount of questions.
	The fact that he recognized it and it's never been recognized.
	Look at these numbers.
	And I'm Assyrian.
	Okay.
	750,000 Assyrians.
	And then over there in Mosul, another 10,000.
	Mosul again in 1892, 3,500 Assyrians murdered.
	Okay.
	Murdered.
	And I think that moment, and Adam was there, we were all back here in that back room.
	It was a moment of shock because the interview was coming to an end.
	We went past the 30, and I was like, is he even going to be able to ask this?
	And when you asked it and there was zero hesitation, I think even who was the Armenian guy today, Pat, Sako.
	I saw him on the video.
	Socco made a video and how happy.
	And it's like, guys, anything to getting closer to the truth, I think is amazing.
	And for a second, my mom called and she's like, I can't believe that he actually made him say it out of his words because the initially was the what?
	The Knesset recognized it.
	But when you said, no, no, you haven't done it.
	I think it's holding his foot to the fire.
	I loved it.
	Well, I'll just be complete full disclosure here.
	We did a prep to discuss the interview with Patrick and Bibi, and we were all deciding on topics we want to go over.
	And I said, Pat, what is your ultimate goal for doing the podcast?
	And, you know, you talk about we all have our biases.
	You know, Pat said very selfishly, I have one goal.
	I want Bibi Netanyahu to recognize the Armenian genocide straight up.
	And then from there, we can talk Iran, we can talk Gaza, we can talk United States, we can talk APAC.
	But that was your goal.
	And I respect the hell out of that because you're Armenian and you're our Syrian.
	So, and I said to you, I have an assumption that he might go along with this.
	Why?
	Because what's been preventing this is their relationship with Turkey.
	And Turkey's in NATO, and there's alliances.
	But here's what we know about alliances and enemies.
	Yesterday's enemies can become today's allies.
	You know, the friend of a friend is an enemy, and the enemy of enemies is a friend.
	Alliances these days aren't necessarily about love, it's about survival and leverage.
	And that's what's going on in the world.
	So you have Erdogan right here who's basically calling Israel a genocidal regime.
	And usually, when someone's saying things like that, they fail to look in the mirror.
	Because if you look at these stats here from Turkey on the forgotten World War, World War I, everyone's obviously focused on World War II.
	How many million people died in the Armenian Assyrian Greek genocide?
	Millions?
	We don't talk about this.
	World War I is sort of a forgotten war.
	Everyone focuses on World War II.
	And I understand why Jews are very sensitive about the Holocaust, 6 million Jews.
	But the world of geopolitics is a world place that we're seeing.
	And this is what's incredible about what we're doing here at Value Tainment.
	We're not just watching the world change.
	We're actually effectuating change.
	We're seeing articles.
	Patrick Bet David interviews Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and Benjamin Netanyahu admits to acknowledges Armenian genocide.
	What?
	You know, you always say things like, look, we're just business guys doing a podcast here.
	But the reality is you saw a place in the market that was open for real conversations.
	We saw on the left it was weird and woke and ideologically corrupt.
	We saw on the right that there's a lot of people who are people that are basically distasteful and not exactly welcoming of immigrants, but we're having conversations with people.
	I want to say a couple of things on this.
	A couple of things I want to say on this is, you know, what I shared last night, I took screenshots.
	I want you to read a couple of these messages that were sent to me yesterday.
	Okay.
	On X.
	Yeah, I want you to like, this is the kind of stuff that, can you put the camera on Vinny to get his reaction?
	Okay, these are the types of DMs I got last night.
	Lekhri, actually, read it to yourself.
	Okay.
	I mean, that's, there's no, I wouldn't be able to say that out loud.
	I can't even, I don't even want to read this.
	I just want to put this out.
	I'm going to side death and all that.
	But you know what it is?
	And this is times 100.
	Okay.
	And so for me, it's funny because I'm not one that is, you know, sitting here trying to side here, side there.
	This is my position where I stand.
	I lived in Iran.
	I saw what happened.
	You're not going to be able to change my mind.
	That's where I'm at.
	Okay.
	And, you know, Israel's got 15 million people.
	These other guys got a couple billion people.
	These guys have access to a lot more power and bots and influence than these guys do.
	It's just, they're going to be louder.
	You can't help it.
	So they're going to be able to show as if this is a better argument than this.
	Good luck winning that argument, 15 million to 2 billion.
	It's not 10x, the size.
	It's 150x, 140x, the size is a difference.
	They're 140 times bigger if you compare the two, okay?
	That's the audience, 130, 140 times bigger.
	So you can't be naive and not realize, oh my God, but look, that person's getting this many more retweets.
	And they got, what is the word?
	They got, there's a phrase that if somebody puts a tweet below you and they get more, you know, views and ratio, they got ratio.
	Yeah, of course that's going to happen.
	You think if I'm on that side, I'm not going to put a million bots to work.
	There's places you can, there's businesses for this.
	But if I have someone on that Israelis furious, like let's just say if I have Nick Fuentes on, you know what Israelis are going to say?
	So disappointed in you.
	You know, I can't believe you sold out.
	I can't believe you did this.
	They're going to say those types of things.
	Okay.
	And maybe even try to actually get the interview to be flagged.
	Okay.
	Like when we had Tommy Robinson on Manek, story came out from the Times.
	I don't have the story, Rob.
	Tap in The Times.
	The Times could type in Tommy Robinson, The Times, and Manect.
	Okay.
	So they did a massive story, The Times, okay?
	With the story.
	They came.
	I don't know if people know this or not.
	Instagram blocked the Manect account from being able to run ads for a year because of this Time story.
	Tommy Robinson charging $20 a month out as personal coach to the far right, the self-styled anti-Islam activist.
	And this is from UK.
	They reached out directly to Facebook to have this happen to Manette.
	Go a little bit lower, Rob, if you can go through it.
	Now, obviously, our lawyers reached out.
	Everything's getting squared away.
	But if you go a little bit lower, the attacks they put, they created a fake account on Manek to ask him questions and videos.
	And if you watch every single one of the videos, there is nothing that he says that's anything major.
	Our lawyers watch it.
	Everybody watch it.
	Go all the way down.
	And he talks about me and Patrick B. David, the founder of Manect, and he's doing this.
	They're sharing all the Manex publicly, right?
	Okay.
	So the UK woke audience wants to get you canceled.
	Okay.
	Then you got Israel, those, they may want to get you canceled, but when you say anything that you have Netanyahu on, they want to kill you.
	Messages like, we're going to find you in the streets and see what we're going to do to you.
	Who the hell talks like that?
	Who talks like that?
	You think a 22-year-old kid learned how to talk like that?
	Or you think his parents talk like that?
	You think a guy's father talks like that?
	Who talks like that at the church?
	You don't talk like that to somebody.
	But that's the common thing.
	So last time when everything's done, we're talking about it.
	I'm asking you guys guys, here's what I want to do tonight.
	I went on Twitter.
	Rob, if you can go on Twitter, and this is what I did.
	I said the following.
	This is my style, guys.
	I said, I'm officially done for the day.
	Kids are asleep.
	Tico went to sleep.
	We're having a great conversation together.
	I said, ask me any respectful questions about today's interview with PM Netanyahu.
	I'll answer any questions for the next 30 minutes.
	Fire away.
	I went about an hour.
	Let's go through some of the questions, Rob, if you can show the bottom.
	So how much did they pay you directly or indirectly?
	Zero, not offered, nor received.
	We haven't taken any sponsorship money for two years.
	Both sides like to make claims that influencers get money from Qatar or Masaj.
	Just argue the ideas and don't be lazy to some money is related.
	It's money related.
	Go to the next one, Patrick.
	Respect, we're taking a direct time.
	Gut level questions.
	You've grilled CEOs for one bad quarter.
	Netanyahu has had three decades of quarters, which any surprises, fresh body counts.
	Rob, can you please press show more?
	Fix.
	So here's the scale peeler.
	If a future leak shows the idea fat heart, real-time drone for this peril, 347, October 7th, and still waited six hours to scramble, will you book the PM again, look him dead in the eye and make this recite timestamps?
	Dead serious, no gotcha tone.
	You gave me him stage.
	I'm asking if you'll hold the stage.
	Okay, here's what I said.
	That was a question that I wanted to ask, but Trigger Pod did a good job asking it a week ago.
	So I didn't see a point in asking the same question twice.
	Thanks for being respectful.
	Great.
	Next.
	Why do you think all the people who tout just ask questions are trying to cancel you for literally conducting an interview and asking questions?
	I think X isn't for everyone.
	I don't blame people for getting emotional whenever an interview is done with Prime Minister Bibi, but I prefer respectful exchange like the one we're having so far.
	He's an actual genocidal and will go down in the history books as such.
	Do you feel dirty having hitched your name to this?
	Not at all.
	I understand the sensitivity with an active war that's taking place with many innocent lives being taken.
	Can't stand seeing any of it.
	Next, let Bibi know there's a ton of people worldwide that support him.
	And I said, I believe he knows that, but they're losing the digital climate to their opposition.
	Unfavorability rate is very high according to Pew Research.
	Why give him the platform?
	What are the advantages of that?
	I'm not one that goes to sleep worrying about who I give the platform to and who I don't.
	I talk to people I'm interested in.
	This isn't the first time nor the last time people don't like a guest I have on.
	There will be many more.
	Why don't you ask him if he would debate opposition like Nick Fontes?
	And why don't you press him?
	Were you intimidated?
	I said, I've expressed my feeling about Nick and others.
	Their approach causes high-stakes situations, downs to not happen.
	No one wants to sit down with someone who they know won't have a respectful conversation.
	He's too capable and talented to use certain words that he does.
	I think Nick even responded to that.
	Go in that to see if he jumped into that one or not.
	Okay, so then go back.
	Maybe it's a different one.
	Rob, if you can go back and okay, as a Christian, as a Christian, how could you do that?
	You have children.
	It's painful to see how ugly this was.
	I lived in Tehran from 78 to 89, saw a ton of things a kid should never see.
	Breaks my heart and would love to see the whole thing be done.
	On follow, I'll block to make things easier for you.
	Good.
	All my favorite.
	I keep going lower.
	Does he think his approval rating will improve with Hamas' defeat?
	I'm not sure he's concerned with that.
	I believe he sees himself as someone that was put on the earth to finish a job on BFS people.
	Agree or disagree?
	That's how I view his role.
	Let's see what else is there.
	Was anything unrestricted?
	Restricted?
	Nothing was restricted.
	Anything else?
	Even Nick responded.
	If there's a Nick responded, I wouldn't even mind reading his if you can find it.
	Maybe it's lost in a few thousand comments.
	Anyways, so the point is, you know, I want to have this more often.
	I don't think X is for everybody.
	I literally don't think X is for everybody.
	I think X is a place where a lot of people get, oh, let's see right there.
	Okay, so here we go.
	You platform Tate and use the same kind of language.
	Anyone who has seen my interviews knows I'm cordial and respectful, including on your own network with Adam.
	It's your progress, but I don't think anyone is buying this excuse.
	And Nick, great to see you here.
	Tate is half black, half white.
	His father is black.
	I believe you're white and Hispanic.
	He's talking about the N-word.
	I may be wrong.
	By the way, you are cordial in interviews.
	Adam actually said that.
	However, you do get carried away post-interview at times when you react.
	And then is there a follow-up there?
	Is that it?
	Maybe that's it.
	No, okay.
	Seems like the goalpost is moving.
	Now, the issue is that I'm using the N-word and my reaction.
	Not necessarily.
	I actually wouldn't mind sitting down and having a conversation with him.
	I'm just telling you.
	That's from Nick.
	Yeah, what I'm saying to him is he's capable.
	He's able to improve these words.
	He doesn't need to do it.
	He would be able to put himself in platforms to debate.
	This approach doesn't allow you to be wider.
	It gets you on the smaller, younger guys.
	But if you want wider, some things need to change in words.
	What's the chances of a couple of those guys sitting in front of Rock?
	By the way, even when I sat down with Thomas Russo, how respectful was that guy the way he spoke?
	Rob, how would you put him in the level of the way he spoke?
	And you think I sit there and I support the Patriot front?
	No.
	But the guy spoke in a very interesting, respectful way.
	We had a great conversation together.
	I'm very comfortable talking to anybody.
	I grew up in the streets.
	I'm not uncomfortable with it.
	But for those who enjoyed it, awesome.
	For those who didn't and would never want to follow up seeing the interview, there's a few things that Bibi said that he's never said before.
	One, when asked about Trump, would the war, would the Hamas attack happen without if Trump was the president?
	That's one.
	Number two is when I asked the question about the finances, because their debt to GDP ratio went from 60% to 75%.
	They've spent $130 billion on this war.
	And U.S. only gives them $3.8 billion a year.
	I think U.S. has given them $30 billion in weapons that they actually have to buy.
	So it's actually money coming back, that they got the weapons.
	But for the most part, when you're looking at us, I'm like, hey, this debt thing, you know, are you going to come back and ask us for money again?
	Is that going to be taking place?
	Tom, what was your thoughts?
	Because I knew you watched the interview apparently a couple of times.
	What was your takeaway?
	So there's a couple things that stood out to me that were maybe not directly related only to Bibi.
	His comments about Biden saying, okay, you can defend yourself on October 7th, but don't go into Rafah.
	No, I don't want you going into Rafah.
	And then Blinken calling him a week later and Anthony Blinken, the real president, calling him and saying, hey, you know, we told you about the embargo, right?
	We're going to, you can't go in there.
	And he said, look, we have to do it.
	If we have to fight with our fingernails, we have to do it.
	You're not the one that's at war here.
	You know, it just showed how much Biden was kind of out to lunch and Blinken was really the guy that was in the back there.
	So I saw that.
	Also, I didn't know, and I looked it up, where he said, there are Gazans now fighting against Hamas in their own neighborhoods, and we have helped them.
	And I looked it up and I'm like, okay, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Is this one or two guys?
	Is this three?
	I wanted to see.
	And guess what?
	Multiple sources that are not just the Jerusalem Times were saying that they are arming the individual groups that are out there fighting and that they're helping the clans, like the Abu Shabaab clan, giving them weapons and like hundreds of guys that are in these clans that are trying to fight for their neighborhoods.
	I didn't know that.
	And so I think there was a lot of here.
	You know, I could sit back and, you know, how do you judge Bibi?
	How do you not judge Bibi?
	But when I saw this, there were some things that came out there that he said some things I was able to go research.
	And I was satisfied that there was, you know, truth behind it.
	Like I didn't know Gazans were actually fighting for their own area against Hamas and these clans that are armed.
	Overall, I thought he was pleasant.
	I thought he was direct.
	I thought it was a good interview.
	There's only so much you can do in 40 minutes.
	And the soapbox at his X, everybody say, why don't you ask this?
	Why don't you ask that?
	Why don't you ask that?
	I'm sorry.
	It wasn't a six-hour mini-series, right?
	So we can only go so far.
	What's great, though, Rob, this is the one thing I asked him.
	I don't know if you guys remember about six months ago, Fortnite, three months ago, we reacted to this clip, and I wonder what he was going to say.
	Remember when Trump's like, yeah, we're probably just going to take over Gaza ourselves and we're going to do this?
	So watch this reaction.
	Go ahead, Rob.
	He's welcome.
	Certainly with your enemies.
	I want to show you this clip.
	This is a clip of you and the president.
	You guys are standing right next to each other.
	And you give a look that you almost didn't know he was going to say this.
	And this is just personally for myself.
	I'm curious, did you know the president was going to be saying this?
	Go ahead and play the clip, Rob.
	As far as Gaza is concerned, we'll do what is necessary.
	If it's necessary, we'll do that.
	We're going to take over that piece and we're going to develop it, create thousands and thousands of jobs.
	Beautiful jobs.
	That's something that the entire Middle East can be very proud of.
	But everybody feels that continuing the same process that's gone on forever, over and over again, and then it starts, and then the killing starts, and all of the other problems start, and you end up in the same place, and we don't want to see that happen.
	So by the United States with its stability and strength, owning it, especially the strength that we're developing and developed over the last fairly short period of time, I would say really since the election, I think we'll be a great keeper of something that is very, very strong, very powerful, and very, very good for the area, not just for Israel, for the entire Middle East, very important.
	And we'll, again, have thousands of jobs in the peak.
	You gave a look where you weren't expecting the president to say that as if it's going to be our land.
	Were you surprised by what the president said here?
	No, actually, I wasn't, but I can tell you that he said something else there.
	He said, and that surprised the world.
	And I thought, again, he cut to the chase.
	He said, why are Gazans locked in this area, which is just used as a base for attack against Israel for its destruction?
	That's what the de facto Palestinian state in Gaza was.
	It was a base for Israel's destruction.
	It has no other purpose.
	And it lived under this horrible tyranny, this terror tyranny of Hamas.
	So he said, why not give people a choice?
	I mean, in other war theaters in Ukraine or in Syria or in Afghanistan, you know, millions left if they wanted to.
	In Gaza, they're locked in.
	Nobody allows them to leave.
	And he says, give them a choice.
	If they want to leave, let them leave.
	And for those who stay, rebuild Gaza.
	I thought that was actually a very sensible thing.
	And it's not our goal now to depopulate Gaza and all these other nonsenses that people say.
	Our goal is to free Gaza, free it from Hamas, free it from Hamas tyranny and terror.
	And you know, we now have Gazans.
	I'll bet you don't know this, Patrick.
	We now have Gazans fighting Hamas.
	And they say, thank God you're here.
	They didn't dare do that in the final stage.
	Actually, they're joining up with Israel.
	Gaza cannot invest.
	That's a good thing.
	It's not a bad thing.
	So you would be okay if America takes over Gaza and it becomes something that we control.
	You'd be okay with that.
	Yeah, but it's an American choice.
	I don't want to get into that.
	You would be OK with that.
	So even if America choose, I'd be OK with any governance that civilian governance in Gaza that doesn't teach its children to annihilate Israel, doesn't pay for pay terrorists.
	That's what the, not the Hamas do only.
	It's what the Palestinian Authority, the other side of the Palestinian, Palestinian people does.
	They pay terrorists.
	The more Jews they kill, the more they pay them.
	And doesn't launch.
	That was interesting.
	So Vinny, can you visualize a day where Gaza is a U.S. territory?
	Do you see that happening?
	With Trump, I think anything's possible, honestly.
	Because like he said, okay, because my thing is this.
	And by the way, today, and I told Adam, I had to get another key fixed, not fixed, but another keynote for my truck.
	And the guy came out and he had a star of David.
	I'm like, hey, he's like, what do you do here?
	What are you guys?
	And I'm like, you know, Valutaine Mini.
	He goes, and I showed him, I go, dude, we just interviewed Bibi Nanyahu.
	And he's like, what?
	And he showed it to me.
	I'm like, yeah, like he's like, yeah, I'm not a big fan.
	But he's like, all we care about, he's like, all we care about, the real Israel, like the ones that are protesting in the streets, he's like, we just want our people back.
	He goes, we want our brothers and sisters back from the freaking tunnels and then do whatever you want.
	But Pat, if you think about it, If Trump's in during it, because I don't know how long this thing is going to last, I could see America having something to do with it because they want security, right?
	They want to put in a government that's not going to be Hamas.
	But I think if Trump is gone, it's not going to happen.
	I don't think that they would do it.
	I just want to know from Patrick Bed David, how does it feel to know that you've interviewed Hitler twice?
	You've interviewed Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu.
	Double hit.
	You're just out there Hitlering up.
	Here's my take on what BB, the interview from Bibi.
	I've said this many times before.
	Benjamin Netanyahu is the Trump of the Middle East.
	He doesn't care if you like him or not at this point.
	He literally doesn't.
	Just like Trump doesn't.
	This might be his last term ever.
	We'll see.
	He's the longest-standing tenured prime minister of Israel.
	And much like Trump, he's there to GSD, get stuff done.
	So what he's doing right now is sort of combating the lies, the hate, and the propaganda that's been sullied against the one Jewish date, which he kept repeating.
	But just look at the results.
	You want to talk about, you talk about people.
	Just look at the scoreboard.
	Just look at the scoreboard.
	Yeah, approval ratings are down, but every single combatant that they've played against has lost.
	Iran is weaker.
	Syria has been captured, basically.
	They're done.
	The Houthis, let's see what's going on with them.
	Hezbollah is done.
	Hamas, what's left of Gaza?
	And I just truly think that BB doesn't care what people think.
	So we can have all the American podcasters and the woke right or the woke left criticize Israel as they want, but you know what they have not done?
	Effectuate zero policy change whatsoever.
	Trump and Bibi, it would seem, are tighter than ever.
	And here's the last point.
	People are saying, I can't believe you would talk to Bibi Netanyahu.
	Can't believe you would talk to Tate.
	Can't believe you would talk to Nick Fontes.
	Friends, enemies, get used to one thing here.
	We're going to have a lot more of these conversations here at Valutana.
	I want to know, Adam, what do you think?
	Do you think the United States would be involved with building and policy change and leadership, putting some, like, I'm trying to figure out how that would look like if America would go there and build and make it into something, not like Vegas.
	I don't want to make it like that, but make it.
	How much of drinking?
	Well, that's what I'm saying is how much involvement do you think, Tom, that the United States could have in Gaza, which I don't know timeline-wise, like everything comes down to what?
	It's the hostages getting back.
	That's the number one reason Israel could keep doing whatever it's doing because of the hostages.
	I think if we know anything about Trump, he'll just throw something out there and see who buys.
	Go ahead, Tom.
	BB used the word governance.
	And he said, but I don't want to get into that.
	That's U.S. choice.
	So I think at some point in time, someone has to be kind of the calming force.
	And this usually happens after natural disasters, not wars.
	You have natural disasters, but you also have U.N. peacekeeping forces and things like this to kind of keep people at bay.
	We have the DMZ that was in North and South Korea.
	And so the U.S. only has so many territories and there are island territories that we usually ended up kind of assisting economically.
	You know, U.S. Virgin Islands, what, St. Thomas, St. John's, St. Croix.
	You've got Guam, Puerto Rico.
	You got a few Samoa and the one that everybody forgets about, which is the Mariana Islands up there by the Marianas Trench in the Pacific.
	But those are all things that we did at certain times, kind of helping them out.
	It wasn't like this kind of a fracas going on.
	But I could see the U.S. with Trump saying, look, we're going to make investment, but we're also going to put some things in place here to be something of a peacekeeping force if you can't determine it yourself.
	And there is precedent in the Middle East.
	Egypt and Israel came together on the Sinai Peninsula after, you know, um, Egypt attacked, and then Israel pushed them all the way back and further into their land.
	And so they did come up with a way to kind of create this demilitarized zone.
	And I think when Bibi says governance, I think he's welcoming the opportunity of someone like a Trump that says, hey, we'll play a governance role, like get the peace and help get this thing on its feet.
	But I don't see us governing.
	You know who I would want to talk outside of Bibi?
	I'd love to talk to the leader of Hamas, whoever's there.
	I'm being actually very serious with you.
	I'd love to go to Gaza.
	I would love to go to Gaza.
	We get protection.
	Go to Gaza.
	I want to see what's going on there.
	I'd love to talk to the leadership of Egypt and Jordan, why they're not receiving anybody.
	Even Trump, some people said they begged, he begged Egypt and Jordan to take some Palestinians.
	Rob, can you verify this from telling the, you know, did Trump ask Egypt and Jordan to take some Palestinians and they rejected?
	Like, that is correct.
	Who has agreed to take Palestinians?
	Europeans.
	Who has agreed?
	Oh, for them.
	Can you go to Chat GBT, Rob, and just ask that question you just did right there?
	It's much faster.
	Yeah.
	I can't help you out, Pat.
	Hang on.
	Let me just see it here.
	I got you.
	No, but because what I want to do is I want to ask who has interviewed the Egyptian leader or Jordanian leader and ask why are you not accepting them?
	I think the Jordanian said that he would take 2,000 sick kids at the moment.
	President Trump suggested, did suggest that Jordan and Egypt take in Palestinians, particularly those from Gaza suffering.
	And then what happened?
	I didn't see the last sentence.
	Okay, got it.
	On January 2026, Trump stated that Jordan and Egypt should take in Palestinians from the war over in Gaza, suggesting it could be a temporary or long-term solution to the humanitarian.
	He emphasized that Gaza was a mess, and I'd love for you to take on more addressing Jordan's king with the appeal.
	He also remarked that the U.S. contributed significant aid to both Egypt and Jordan.
	And although he did not explicitly say he would hold aid, he implied pressure by noting they're going to do it.
	Jordan, including King Abdullah II and foreign minister, firmly rejected the idea, stating that Jordan is for Jordanians.
	Palestine is for Palestinians, and that they oppose the displacement.
	Egypt similarly rejected the proposal, insisting Palestinians once around are not equitting displacement.
	Okay.
	So have either one of them being interviewed?
	Can we reach out to both of them?
	Why are you not willing to take Palestinians?
	Have either one of them done a podcast or an interview or long form on why they don't want to receive them?
	They're neighbors to them.
	Why don't you receive them?
	I know Europe is saying yes.
	Why are they not saying yes?
	It's a valid question.
	Who else would it be that would be opposing Bibi there to talk to?
	Like, Vinny, who would you like to see interviewed that opposes Netanyahu?
	On the world stage, you mean?
	Speak in the Middle East.
	I don't want to talk to anybody else that's not directly impacted by it.
	I want to talk to people that are there.
	I mean, Hamas.
	We know the people.
	If you could, I don't know who's the leader of Hamas right now.
	That's the point, is that Hamas isn't doing interviews.
	They're not doing podcasts.
	I'm saying if you could.
	They're a terror organization.
	They will send nobody.
	They hide their faces in masks.
	They're not there to give interviews.
	I got you.
	Yeah, but if we would want to, that'd be one of them.
	Whose side of the argument would you want to hear, Vinny?
	Whose side?
	Whose side of the argument would you want to hear?
	Who would you like to see interviewed and asked questions about this?
	MBS.
	I was going to say MBS.
	MBS.
	MBS is with Bibi.
	Saudi.
	Can you?
	Yeah.
	Can you ask MBS, what is MBS's position?
	Does he defend Palestine or is he souting his position on Israel, Palestine, Iran?
	What position does he take?
	Because MBS does not want what's happening there.
	MBS wants peace in the Middle East.
	He does not like what Iran is doing.
	Exactly.
	At all.
	No, he's not.
	Firm support of Palestinia for Palestinian state.
	MBS has reported emphasis Saudi Arabia will not normalize relations.
	Arms are obviously recognized.
	Based on 1907, he condemned Israel's Gaza reaction.
	And then he changed, while he acknowledges Israel's technological advancement, strength normalization, MBS is leveraging Saudi Arabia's regional influence, positioning the kingdom as a mediator, go a little bit lower after years of rivalry, relations, the diplomatic, as occurred in March of 2023.
	No, but recently, when he talked about Iran, it was condemned.
	There's a recent interview that happened with MBS about Iran.
	Yeah.
	That he does not support what Iran is doing.
	Because even MBS, he's taking a hit on what's going on in the Middle East.
	Well, the thing with MBS, if I may, publicly, what they say is a lot different than what he's whispering.
	Publicly, he's going to stand up.
	I'd love to go to MBC.
	He's whispering behind the scenes that he's very not much.
	I'd love to go to Gaza.
	Tom Herbert.
	Turkey.
	I would love you to sit down and talk to El Sisi, who is the president of Egypt.
	Because Egypt had, you go from Sadat to Mubarak.
	You have a series of presidents there.
	Yeah, they have their tensions, but that reached the Camp David Peace Accords.
	And their Coptic Christians managed to live in Egypt with some persecution, but not getting exterminated that I've seen.
	If there's articles out there that say something different, you know, okay, I'll go that.
	But Egypt has seemed to be trying to get its place.
	And so I'd love to see you talk to El Cisi.
	Say, look, you've built one of the, you signed the Camp David Peace Accords.
	You have a tradition of détente that's dated back and cooperation dated back to Anmar Sadat in the 1970s.
	So it's 50 years now.
	And by the way, you've got this human that supported Mohammed Aza Palavi to live there when he was in exile.
	Yep.
	And Sadat then paid a cost for it politically.
	And he's assassinated in his own country.
	President Jimmy Carter went and walked the exact place where he was assassinated and broke down and cried there.
	And I'd love you to see El Cisi say, look, you got this big wall, but you got this history of kind of cooperation.
	Why not one?
	And you've built, when you talk about building walls, you're at the Olympic level, man.
	You guys have built a wall.
	You know what?
	I'd love to do that, Rob.
	Can we put that to the list?
	I'd love to go to Egypt and see if we can speak with El Cisi.
	Yeah, I just want to see what is the position of some of the people.
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	I'd like this thing to stop, but I also think a lot of people are confused because all they see is, you know, where this, it's such an easy country to hate.
	It is such an easy country to hate.
	And the attention doesn't go to what China is doing to Muslims.
	The attention doesn't go to what's going on in Syria.
	The attention doesn't go to different places.
	It's mainly the attention goes to this country.
	You're saying Israel's constant.
	Yeah, I mean, the same.
	Why do you think that is, though, Pat?
	Because I have an opinion.
	Tell me.
	I'm not sure if you've read your DMs, but the death threats are growing every single day.
	So let me give the flip side.
	I can totally understand why Americans are just sick of talking about Israel.
	Totally get it.
	Okay?
	Like Humberto, I think, said that.
	He's like, I just want to stop talking about Israel.
	That's fine.
	Israel's not asking you to talk about them.
	The media is doing it.
	So the Twitter bots are doing it.
	Nobody wants to talk about Israel here.
	All right.
	You know, APAC, the control, have that conversation.
	But here's my question.
	Israel, they're looking to take over zero cities, zero cities.
	In fact, you know, Israel controls the world.
	Israel controls America.
	We're about to have an Islamic communist mayor of New York City.
	The most Jews in the world outside of Israel, New York, can't even win New York.
	So there's a population situation.
	Cities across Europe, are they in jeopardy of being run over by Jews?
	Is London?
	Is Brussels?
	Is Paris?
	Is Rome?
	Is also, are all these cities going to be governed by Jews?
	No, it's all going to be Muslims in the coming years.
	That's a whole conversation that Tommy Robinson can invite.
	But all these countries that are having issues these days, APAC isn't in the UK.
	APAC isn't doing their thing in Australia.
	Why are all these other countries around the world that don't share the concerns of getting America into war?
	Why do they all have so much anti-Israel hate?
	Because it's not Israel's getting us involved in wars and it's BB that's causing us to do the, you know, invade Iraq.
	No, why are all these countries?
	Could it be that it's just the longest, the most hated, long-standing type of hate in the world?
	I don't know.
	I'm asking you guys a question because I see it in America.
	People are so sick of Israel.
	I want to understand from a global perspective.
	Well, now, you showed the, didn't you come up with the chart when we were prepping?
	Like, where's that chart that shows the anti-feelings towards, is it Israel or was it against Jewish people?
	Do you remember which one it was?
	Yeah, the unfavorability.
	Unfavorability.
	It's the research.
	It's horrible towards Israel.
	Yeah, can you show that?
	We showed that to us.
	Adam, and I'm just thinking on basic, like, where is it coming from?
	I'm asking you guys.
	I think it's, this is my opinion.
	I think it's the way, the way of the handling of the war.
	And, bro, when it comes to war, people are going to be critical.
	I understand the side of it.
	I genuinely think it's because, I think it's because of the war.
	Yeah, 100%.
	What else do you think it is?
	I mean, because I remember on October 8th, people saying before Israel even attacked that they were going to commit genocide.
	So before they even fired a bullet.
	Oh, they're going to genocide.
	So to me, this has all just been brewing underneath.
	And this is an excuse to hate the Jews again.
	But okay, other than war, what is it?
	Well, I think that's- Because if they stop the war, people are going to go back to liking Israel.
	Well, those are the basic things.
	What else?
	What else?
	Is the APAC?
	Okay, that affects America.
	What else?
	The world affects America.
	At the end of the day, Adam, when we talk about everybody else, this is our ally.
	This isn't just another regular country.
	So when they do something, America looks like they're bad.
	And for instance, you know me and how I feel about children.
	I want every, if there's injured kids and I want to help those people 100% when it comes to children.
	But did you see a couple weeks ago, Pat, when Laura Loomer put them on blast and got Marco Rubio involved, where there was airplanes full of people coming into the United States from Palestine?
	And guess what?
	As much as I want to help these people, you're going to let in a group of people whose fathers, brothers, mothers, aunts have been getting killed in Gaza.
	And then you want to bring them here.
	How do you think they're going to feel towards America?
	Because our biggest ally is Israel.
	That's a freaking, that's a dangerous, dangerous thing to do because, yeah, they're going to come into a smiles.
	I appreciate that.
	That's from an American perspective.
	I'd love to get Thomas' perspective.
	But Pat, let me ask you something.
	I remember you said something to the effect of like, oh, you want people to stop hating on you?
	You know a good idea what you could do, Israel?
	Or Jewish people?
	Lose.
	Start losing.
	You know who said that?
	Who said Soul?
	Thomas Sowell said that.
	Exactly.
	You're repeating Thomas Soul.
	So, all right, so the Jews control the world.
	There's 0.02% of the population of the world are Jewish.
	So in my opinion, a lot of the world are looking for scapegoats because their lives are meaningless or they're not doing things they want in their life or they're poor or they're not rich or things aren't going well or especially in the Middle East, you know, you're supposed to be the chosen people from the last prophet, yet you're in turmoil and misery.
	Oh, it must be the Jews.
	So I have news for you.
	Jews are typically raised with good foundation and good principles and want to learn and want to be educated and want to make money.
	That is a recipe for success for anybody.
	Anybody can do what the Jews are doing, but a lot of people won't put in the work.
	So Tom, what's your opinion on what all this hate has come from?
	So I can't begin to speculate on why each and every country, you know, I looked at that list and I'm like, okay, there's some countries that are very Muslim.
	Indonesia, okay, I can understand that.
	There's this, because there's a Muslim Jewish schism that's there that goes back.
	I don't understand Japan.
	I see Japan has got similar data points to Indonesia.
	I look down this and I'm like, why would Japan have the people feel this way?
	And I don't have a baseline for it, like a before and after.
	But I will tell you, in the theater of modern warfare, there is a lot of feeling right now.
	There's a lot of feeling and there are a lot of polling and things out there that people feel one way about ideas and they think another way about execution.
	Everybody wanted the border shut in the U.S. Everybody wanted to control immigration.
	Nobody wanted to see people picked up while they were picking fruit in the field or from a construction site and shipped out.
	When people saw execution, like, okay, I was in favor of closing the border, but I don't really like that.
	And also, you've got like the movie Wag the Dog.
	You can't little glimpses on a video that give you emotional responses.
	Now, it's gone on for a long time, and there's an awful lot of humanitarian stuff that's going on in Gaza.
	And I see a lot of articles and translated from many different languages, French, German, that are saying you defending yourself from October 7th, you've gone too far.
	And I see that.
	So I don't know where the feeling was before.
	Here's Thomas Sowell.
	Thomas Soul.
	There's a lot of people saying you've gone too far and I don't like what I see.
	to show this.
	Which is leading too far leads him to say.
	We got it Tom.
	I want to show this.
	I want to show this.
	And for you to see this, this is from a few months ago, but this is Thomas Sowell's interview from many years ago.
	Thomas Sowell hasn't done an interview in a long time.
	And he's going to be a little bit more.
	I'm asking about this, Thomas Sowell, though.
	Tom?
	You'd love to interview him.
	Thomas Sowell is probably one of the, he wrote a book called White Reason.
	He called the one that I read.
	The Black Dego.
	Black Red Monster.
	By the way, the guy is unfreaking believable.
	He schooled people like you wouldn't believe.
	He was phenomenal.
	Reader.
	What?
	Reader.
	That's what I mean.
	Thank you, Rob.
	Everybody should read the book, reader.
	I don't care if you're 13 years old or 60 years old.
	You should read Reader.
	Watch how Thomas Sowell breaks it down and what he says the last three seconds of the interview.
	Go forward.
	Middleman minorities, of which the Jews are the most prominent.
	The hostility of these people in countries around the world is out of all proportion to that to any other kind of group I can think of.
	In terms of violence, the number of Chinese killed, let's say, in one year by mob action exceeds all the blacks lynched in the entire history of the United States.
	And the number of Armenians killed in Turkey during the First World War is greater than that.
	Of course, the number of Jews slaughtered on a number of occasions in history, even before the Holocaust, is greater than that.
	So the question is, why this particular kind of people are the targets of so much us, venomous hatred?
	And I think the answer is that they not only succeed, they succeed in a way which is a threat to the egos of other people.
	But the guy who comes here, let's say from Vietnam or Korea and arrives here with little more than the clothes in his back and a few broken words or broken English, and a decade later, he has his own little business and you see his son a few years after that getting ready to go off to Harvard or MIT.
	You've got to ask yourself, you've either got to, you know, you've got to hate yourself for saying, my God, I've been stagnating.
	This guy was nothing and now he's an up.
	Or you're going to have to hate him.
	Years ago, one official of one of the Jewish organizations in New York asked me, what can Jews themselves do in order to minimize the hostility they face?
	I gave him a one-word answer, fail.
	Because as long as you succeed, you're going to be hated.
	The middleman might.
	Exactly.
	Thomas Soul for you.
	You know, that is so true about Los Angeles.
	Growing up in Los Angeles, and first of all, I shared the joy of many friends who are Armenians that I knew from Cal State Northridge and living out there who told me what the Holocaust was.
	And then I would go into my world history classes at college and I asked about, hey, we're covering World War I. What about this?
	What are you talking about?
	And I spoke for them and I brought it up.
	And in that same Los Angeles, exactly what Thomas Soul is talking about, I saw.
	I saw it with the Koreans that protected their own businesses during the Rodney Kings riots.
	And we saw the vitriol toward the Japanese and the Koreans in Los Angeles.
	And all they did was come over here.
	And exactly as Thomas Soule said, they succeeded.
	They built a business.
	And suddenly other people in the community didn't like them or thought that that wasn't fair like this.
	And they used to make jokes about UCLA.
	Oh, it's University of Californians living among Asians.
	It's really, what's so terrible about a kid doing well on an SAT and being able to get into UCLA?
	I don't understand.
	And UCLA had this over-index of Asians.
	Why?
	Because all these people were succeeding in LA and they wanted to send their kids to a good school.
	They got in-state tuition.
	They sent them to UCLA.
	What Thomas Soule is saying, I saw in Los Angeles as I was there over 50 years and seeing people grow up and I see it.
	And it wasn't a black-white thing.
	I saw it in other races.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, look, that's Thomas Soule for you.
	And for me, I like to listen to people that emotion is low, reason is high.
	And Thomas Soule breaks things down in a very reasonable way.
	And by the way, this still doesn't mean I have to support what's happening to Palestinians.
	This still doesn't mean I have to support what's going on there with the war.
	This still doesn't mean I have to support any of that stuff.
	It just means I have to find a way to not allow all these emotional.
	And by the way, if you're Muslim, you got 2 billion people.
	Who do you think has a monopoly on social media?
	Who?
	Jews or Muslims?
	And then those 2 billion people that are messaging and they're able to recruit others because the average person is going to be like, wow, this guy gets this many retweets.
	That guy gets this.
	He must be right.
	He must be this.
	But you have to be able to step back and sit there and say, I don't support what's going on here.
	You know, like yesterday, the video with, what do you call it, when they shot up the hospital, that BB had to come back and apologize.
	And then after a first shot, they shoot the second one.
	And you see the video?
	I don't have to support that.
	Okay, this clip right here, we don't have to show it to the public, Rob, so make sure the people in the back are not doing it.
	The guy's flipping them off, right?
	They're talking to their own people.
	They're fixing this place.
	And then within seconds, boom, gone, right?
	This is the nasty part of war.
	But watch what this does to the average person.
	This is all they see.
	And they say, wow, how bad.
	This is terrible.
	War is nasty on both sides.
	It's not for the emotional, wary.
	It's not for the average person.
	And the only difference today that we're living, 20 years ago, you wouldn't see these clips.
	Today it's everywhere.
	And so guess what?
	It's true.
	To all the emotional people, it's so easy to hold them hostage and to keep them forever and to get them to hate somebody else.
	When I was in school, everybody liked me.
	I was a regular guy.
	All the kids went to universities.
	All my friends went to colleges.
	I'm the only guy that didn't go to college.
	And my friends would say, parents, be careful with Patrick.
	Divorce family, be careful with them.
	Trouble.
	So guess what?
	I couldn't even get into a community college, Glendo Community College.
	I joke about it.
	Obviously, I went there and I got G-O-V, whatever that was, the benefits they're giving you, you know, gov, all these things that obviously for them, government, you can do this.
	Eventually, I joined the army.
	I come out.
	My friends are like, oh, it's okay.
	It's going to be okay.
	This is Patrick.
	It's going to be okay.
	He's not going to do anything big in his life.
	The moment I want a little bit, I'm like, hey, made six figures.
	What's he doing?
	Well, you know, it tells you it's just six figures.
	He doesn't have a degree.
	He doesn't have a degree.
	And then I made a quarter million.
	And then I made a million.
	And the next thing, you know, all the same people who were feeling sorry for me when my parents got through a divorce and they were all happy and their parents were married and their parents told them to stay away from that guy.
	Now they're all saying things behind my back.
	Wait a minute.
	We were best friends.
	Why?
	Because I was not the one that was supposed to make it.
	And then it's, oh, he made it because of this business.
	Oh, I would never make the money the way he, I would never.
	Oh, now you're tarnishing.
	Okay, great.
	Then you know what I realize?
	Look, I have a choice.
	Win for the people that matter in my life and allow the people that I've worked with you to know how you are or go out there and try to please the people that you're never going to win over.
	I have no desire to be part of this camp because you're held hostage.
	You conform.
	You're in prison.
	You don't even know it.
	You will never win an election here.
	This is not the election I'm trying to win.
	I'm trying to win this election.
	You ought to make that decision for yourself as well.
	I'm going to wrap up.
	We got to go because I got a meeting to go.
	I know you want to say a couple words as well.
	I just wanted to ask you a question.
	I just, simple question.
	How often do you read the Bible?
	I've been reading Proverbs this week, and I've just been, I couldn't put it down.
	I'm like, I need Proverbs right now.
	Just going through it right now.
	Really?
	Yeah, I'm going through Proverbs right now.
	The reason I ask that because I know Vinny's been reading it.
	I know Tom has been reading it.
	I had that epiphany.
	I was like, the Bible is really just the Old Testament, the five books of Moses, and the New Testament.
	Here's my opinion.
	I was actually speaking with Rabbi Benny.
	I said, here's what I've noticed.
	I've got Vinny.
	Benny.
	Oh, Benny.
	Okay.
	I said, Vinny, Rabbi Vinny, that'd be great.
	Coming soon.
	Here's what I realized.
	I got a meeting in 30 years.
	People that study the Torah turn out to be, for the most part, way more learned and scholarly and have way more principles.
	People that read the Bible, in my opinion, become way more righteous and virtuous.
	On another note, people that read the Quran and read it literally become way more radical and extremist and practice jihad.
	That's just my opinion.
	Yeah.
	And stats validate some of it.
	We call them radical clerics.
	I don't know about radical.
	I've never heard radical Catholic priests, radical Protestant ministers or pastors or radical Jewish rabbis, but somehow we now have a lexicon that includes radical clerics.
	Tom, let me tell you, Tom, as much as we're talking the way that we are, there is a massive loud population that's against it.
	And the people are afraid of losing that audience.
	And I'm not.
	I don't wake up in the morning trying to win audience over.
	I'm going to be myself long term.
	And if you like it, like it, you don't, you don't.
	And I'm going to call out anybody and everybody if I don't like it.
	But man, to the emotional few, read, read, read.
	To those of you that are watching this, because you hate watching, you're not like watching, keep coming back.
	We enjoy it.
	We don't mind it at all.
	As long as you respect, Adam said something to a guy the other day on Manek.
	He says, you know, the guy pushed you a little bit on Manek.
	I don't want to say the guy's name, but he said something.
	He's like, nobody likes you.
	And that's not true.
	I actually like the guy.
	I actually like it.
	He said, he sent me exactly what it was.
	I'm like, no, no, wait a minute.
	I like this guy.
	I like talking to this guy.
	And we have back and forth.
	I don't have any problem with even talking to haters.
	I have one basic rule.
	It's a very simple rule with me.
	Just be respectful.
	If you're respectful, you disagree.
	We're going to be okay together long term.
	Guys, we have a lot of podcasts that I'm going to come out that we have shot.
	Yesterday, I shot a couple podcasts.
	Some of them are going to come out.
	For everybody else that's coming here tonight, I cannot wait to see y'all here tonight.
	To those that are coming to the networking, man, Rob, if you can put the link below again for the last people that want to get the ticket and come down, we cannot wait to meet many of you here tonight at the camp, especially the founders and CEOs for me to give you a tour.
	And afterwards, going to the Boardroom Cigar Lounge.
	We'll do it again on Friday.
	God bless everybody.

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