PBD - Patrick Bet-David - Macron Shoved, Trump BLASTS Putin, Jordan Peterson DESTROYED & Ron DeSantis BOOED!

May 27, 2025 - PBD - Patrick Bet-David

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Macron Shoved, Trump BLASTS Putin, Jordan Peterson DESTROYED & Ron DeSantis BOOED! | PBD Podcast 592

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover French President Emmanuel Macron’s shocking shove during a heated public exchange, Trump’s escalating feud with Apple CEO Tim Cook, Jordan Peterson gets destroyed during a debate, and Ron DeSantis gets booed at WWE. ------ 🏋️ VT ATHLEISURE COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4mEY1jo 🖥️ VT WEBINAR: HOW TO BE A KILLER IN BUSINESS WITHOUT KILLING YOUR MARRIAGE | JUNE 11TH | 12:30PM: https://bit.ly/4hVTkPK 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! TIME STAMPS: 00:00 - Podcast Intro 00:29 - Topics coming up on today's podcast. 07:24 - 🏋️ VT ATHLEISURE COLLECTION: https://vtmerch.com/collections/activ... 08:38 - Trump unhappy with Putin over Ukraine attacks. 18:36 - Trump and Apple's Tim Cook have tariff fall out. 31:53 - Tim Cook stops online child-safety legislation. 40:04 - Caitlin Clark vs Angel Reese drama turns racial. 55:56 - Jordan Peterson gets schooled in marriage debate. 1:20:14 - Target protested over George Floyd's 5 year death anniversary. 1:29:13 - Macron shoved by his wife during public spat. 1:35:47 - Ron DeSantis booed by WWE fans. 1:44:04 - Chris Cuomo slams radical Islamists. 2:05:49 - Iran Nuclear Deal starts to fall apart. SUBSCRIBE TO: ‪@VALUETAINMENT‬ ‪@ValuetainmentComedy‬ ‪@theunusualsuspectspodcast‬ ‪@HerTakePod‬ ‪@bizdocpodcast‬ ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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	Did you ever think you would make it?
	No, this life meant for me.
	Adam, what you think?
	The future looks bright.
	That table.
	Handshake is better than anything I ever saw.
	It's right here.
	You are a one-on-one for a while.
	I don't think I've ever said this before.
	And I know a lot of you guys have been waiting, but those of you who have, we have a big show here for you today.
	We are not in the States.
	If you don't already know, this isn't the usual set, guys.
	We are out of the country.
	By the end or middle of the podcast, we may reveal a video to kind of show to you where we are for some of you guys that don't know.
	And I'll maybe give you a little bit of a hint why we're here, why we decided to be here at a crazy time like this with all the stuff that's going on for us.
	But there's a lot of stories that's going on.
	And I have so many opinions.
	I know Tom does.
	I know a lot of us do.
	And I'm sure some of you guys do as well on these topics that we'll cover here.
	Let me kind of get into some of them.
	Again, it's one of those things where I feel like we haven't on the podcast for quite a few days and so much has happened.
	Trump is not happy with Putin.
	On a call, he specifically said, I am not happy with what he's doing.
	We'll talk about that.
	Even calling him crazy.
	Crazy guys.
	All caps.
	All caps.
	Calling him crazy.
	Caitlin Clark is driving the WNBA insane.
	It's to the point that she may need to step away from the WNBA, have a billionaire come in that has the money to prove a point and say, Caitlin, I'll pay you $50 million just to see if the WNBA can make it without you.
	Let's go create a completely different league and expose the hell out of the WNBA just to embarrass this Angel Reese girl that Jamil Hill just said.
	She could go down as a Michael Jordan of WNBA.
	And wait till I show you a couple statistics here.
	And then Ryan Clark made a comment about, you know, RG3 and saying RG3, you wouldn't know what it's like.
	You're married to a white woman.
	This thing got very ugly very quickly.
	And then Britney Griner, this guy out of nowhere, comes out.
	And what happened?
	This guy out of nowhere?
	Doesn't he shoot without a shirt on?
	I thought it was shooting at his pool.
	He's under the impression it's a transgender.
	It's not like he was by the pool.
	I am genuinely confused.
	I was confused.
	She may be a maybe.
	I thought it's a guy, but when the top of the pool sounds transferred.
	Brittany.
	Let's just say Britney comes out and Britney makes some comments saying, I missed the good old WNBA days when the audience weren't here and it wasn't packed.
	It was more like a, she calls Caitlyn a white trash.
	And by the way, you know what happens to Caitlin?
	We'll talk about that here.
	Well, something happened to Caitlin that's going to mix it up.
	Yes, Trump is giving a speech and he starts talking about trophy wives, which, by the way, it's another one of those funny things, but you got to love this guy that he'll say things that drive a lot of other people insane.
	Cuomo made some comments on the religion of Islam.
	Tommy Robinson's officially free.
	There's a TV network in Lebanon that I want to show you one of these clips of this man who's a host who happens to be Muslim.
	And on this Lebanon Broadcasting International, he interviews 10-year-old, 13-year-old girls that are with a 27-year-old man crying.
	It's wild, LBC, and it's not for the LBC you think about.
	This is a different LBC.
	I'm talking like Long Beach Crypt.
	We're talking about the radio station and TV station on Lebanon.
	And then Oprah, I got an old clip of Oprah I want to show.
	Very old clip of Oprah.
	I want to show to you guys.
	Money market, a very interesting data was shared by Shamat the other day that I retweeted that shows how much money is in money market today.
	It's the highest money we've ever had in money markets ever.
	It's not really a good sign because a money market where you go is to play safe because you don't really know what's going on with the market.
	I'll show it to you guys.
	I'm sure Tom's got some thoughts.
	Jordan Peterson did one of these Jubilee type of shows, you know, where they kind of sit there and talk.
	And he's talking to all these other, this other Christian, one of the Christian kids said something, and it seemed like to be a little bit of a clash.
	I actually want to get Tom's thoughts as well as your thoughts on it.
	Harvard foreign student, you know, are upset at Trump.
	Christy Noam came and said something to Harvard directly.
	Trump is thinking about taking $3 billion of money out from Harvard to give it to trade schools.
	Very interesting what is formulating over there.
	One fun fact about the NB, I want to kind of reveal to you guys.
	And I saw this.
	I said, you know what?
	I think could be a story all the way at the end that we can talk about.
	Nuclear energy.
	There's a story about nuclear energy and what the president is doing to accelerate.
	We right now, I think, only have one in development right now that are waiting for permits.
	China's got 18 pending that they're already going through and they're accelerating.
	And our permits are slowing down the process of coming up with these next nuclear plans, which we do need.
	Tim Cook may get a 25% tariff tax if he doesn't build these iPhones in the States.
	Trump's not happy about it.
	We'll see what's going to happen there.
	And then Tim Cook makes a phone call to the Texas governor about these safety, child safety legislation that I think maybe a little bit of Layla Mikkelwit was pushing with the guest that we had on the podcast because she was going after Pornhub and we had the owners of Pornhub here on the podcast.
	Shipping costs for companies may double due to the China-U.S. trade war that's taking place.
	There was a, I think it was a five-year anniversary of George Floyd's, what's it?
	Overdose.
	He overdose.
	It's a five-year anniversary of it.
	He did overdose.
	And then there was a major boycotting of Target.
	Target is in the middle list.
	They don't know how to handle it.
	You should have seen this mayor crying.
	It's a lot of spectacles going on, but we'll talk about that.
	Macron got hit by his husband, and it was a very weird situation when you saw this.
	Hey, Pat, boys will be boys.
	I mean, it is what it is.
	A part of it is still rascals at this point of the game.
	Listen.
	He's getting off an airplane.
	Maybe he didn't let him sit in first class or something.
	I don't know what it was, but it was pretty upsetting.
	It was a pretty upsetting on what happened.
	MTG, she had something that happened with Grok, I believe.
	They had a feud because somebody said, is she still a Christian?
	Is she not a Christian?
	What's going on?
	And she got upset and she went after it.
	And then there was another chatbot, which, folks, this is crazy.
	Another chatbot threatened the user that if you share this with others, I'm going to tell your wife that you're having an affair because I know what you're searching based on your phones.
	That's some creepy stuff right there.
	And it searches email on his computer.
	Let me tell you, that is going to be some real stuff for some guys.
	Holy moly.
	Exactly.
	All right.
	So, guys, before you get your phone with all the different chatbots, you may want to listen up to this one here.
	We just kind of clean up your life and get rid of some distraction.
	All right.
	Iran, the fifth round of negotiation.
	There's a profile.
	I found a video about back in the days what Iran's, what the USCIA's profile was on the Shaw, and they broke it down.
	Very interesting to watch.
	I found a clip of the Shaw with Walt Disney that we got to see as well.
	And we got a few other things here.
	I believe we have Adam.
	Adam, tell us, let's see how you sound.
	Can you say a few words, Adam, to see if he can hear you loud and clear?
	He's not listening.
	Adam, can you hear us or no?
	No.
	Adam, we can't do any dialogue on the neutral system.
	Rob, if you want to speak with him and maybe tell him to turn off that adult movie as playing in the bathroom.
	But anyways, all right.
	So we'll figure this thing out.
	Everybody's in different places.
	We've done it before.
	If not, we got a lot of stories we'll do here in-house as well.
	All right.
	Before we get into it, I want to share with you guys one of the biggest things that we had is a lot of people were saying, well, Pat, you know, some of the stuff that I have, I can't wear it to the gym.
	Can we get some value tame in gym gear?
	And we finally got it.
	And our model that we hired is kind of a big deal.
	We are this good-looking Assyrian guy who happens to be single with one of our friends here, Natalia.
	Rob, can you show us the new gear we have with Valutayman merch for those that go to the gym and workout?
	Look at those legs You seeing that little wink at the end there So I got something else for you, baby.
	All right, the future looks strong and sweaty.
	Go to vtmerch.com, place your order, get your gear, go to the gym, support the future looks bright.
	And anybody that places an order, you get a I love VT keychain being sent your way.
	Okay, so let's get right into the podcast.
	Rob, for whatever reason, I want to kind of start off with a different story here today, if we can.
	I think we start off with this story about Trump and Putin.
	So if you have the clip of Trump not being happy with Putin, calling him crazy, I'll read the story here and then we'll get into it.
	So Trump says he's not happy with Putin after massive Ukraine strike.
	Now, you got to keep in mind, the president has been negotiating hardcore with Putin to get things done there, but he's not listening.
	And President Trump expressed strong disapproval of Vladimir Putin's action, stating that at Morristown Municipal Airport, and here's what he had to say.
	Go forward, Rob.
	I'll give you an update.
	I'm not happy with what Putin's doing.
	He's killing a lot of people.
	And I don't know what the hell happened to Putin.
	I've known him a long time, always gotten along with him, but he's sending rockets into cities and killing people.
	And I don't like it at all.
	Okay?
	We're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets into Kiev and other cities.
	I don't like it at all.
	President, what do you want to do about it?
	I'm surprised.
	I'm very surprised.
	We'll see what we're going to do.
	What am I going to tell you?
	You're the fake news, aren't you?
	You're totally fake news.
	Any other questions?
	I don't like what Putin is doing, not even a little bit.
	He's killing people.
	And something happened to this guy, and I don't like it.
	Tom, your thoughts on this?
	Well, the president's being very clear here.
	Absolutely clear.
	But you know what?
	He doesn't negotiate with the media in front of the media, nor does he give the media anything other than what he wants them to run with.
	And what I think was happening behind closed doors is he really thought two weekends ago that he had Putin and he had Zelensky kind of walking to a bridge.
	And they were walking on a bridge together, not to blow it up, not to jump off, but a bridge of understanding and kind of a bridge of solution.
	And all of a sudden, you've got additional rockets going off that multiple sources have confirmed.
	And worse, they were hitting civilian areas, not military targets.
	And so you can kind of see the ire in the president's voice there about you're hitting people, you're killing people.
	You're launching these rockets.
	And he named one of the small cities there.
	And so I think he's very frustrated with that.
	And on the other side, you've also heard him be equally frustrated with Zelensky.
	And he was saying, Zelensky has been saying some things and he better knock it off.
	And he better.
	And there was a warning to Zelensky versus a statement to Putin.
	That's what I heard.
	The statement to Putin was, I don't like it at all.
	To Zelensky, it was, he better knock off these things he's saying and he better knock it off soon.
	That's a different tone to both men, even though Trump is in the middle.
	Thought he had a bridge, it sounded like two weeks ago, and is very frustrated at this moment.
	Adam, before I come to you, turn off the TV behind you.
	Vinny, what are your thoughts on this?
	Well, I think this goes to show, like, remember all the years that we had to hear what Trump is, Putin's puppet, and Putin's Putin's puppet would never ever talk like that.
	He is pissed off because he had them both at the negotiating table.
	Okay, this war did not start under him.
	He's trying to clean up the mess from the other previous administration.
	I'm not ever going to say Biden administration ever again, Pat, because it had nothing to do with Joe Biden.
	This is all because of their fault.
	Joe Biden said out of his mouth, he said, you know what?
	If Russia invades Ukraine, if it's a minor incursion, it's all good.
	He invited them to go do it.
	And now he's cleaning up a mess.
	And Putin, I'm telling you right now, Putin is not going to budge, especially with NATO trying to creep in, which they promised them.
	Remember, who was this Tom?
	Who was it that said net means net?
	Not going in at all.
	And this is just a direct result because Zelensky is acting like a little spoiled little brat that they freaking created.
	And Putin is a boss that they push to the limit.
	And this is what we get because of it.
	Abby, your thoughts.
	So first, can you hear me okay?
	I can.
	Yeah.
	Okay, great.
	I think, you know, Vinny, as much as I love you and respect you, you couldn't be further off from what is happening here.
	The reason I say that is this.
	Trump is realizing in real time that Putin is the problem.
	Putin is the bad guy.
	Putin is the autocratic thug that cannot be controlled.
	As much as Zelensky is annoying and feminine and taking our money, at least he's an ally.
	In my opinion, Putin's looking at the situation and saying the following.
	Oh, you thought you were going to end this in day one, really, Mr. President.
	You thought you were going to come in and just dictate what the new world order was going to be.
	Really, Mr. President, well, let me show you how I operate.
	I've been running Russia for 25 years.
	What you say is irrelevant to me.
	And in my opinion, Putin is doing this just to piss off Donald Trump.
	So we're going to see where this relationship is going to be.
	I like what you're saying.
	I like what you're saying.
	I'm going to give you a twist to it.
	Let me give you guys a twist.
	Here's what I'd love to see.
	And I would love to see Trump go so hard on Putin and to watch Democrats the next day become Putin fans and hate Ukraine.
	You know, I mean, these guys are so, I guarantee you, if Trump all of a sudden went hardcore on Putin and said he's a this, he's a dictator, he's a this, overnight you would see the damn sitting there.
	Oh my God, you know, this is not fair.
	What he's doing, it would be the 80-20 split and they would take the other side on what's going on there.
	But the reality of it is, you know what Putin is saying?
	He's his own guy.
	And it's showing that when it comes down to this negotiation with these two guys, it's a lot harder than he thought it was going to be.
	Whether this is going to get done or not, who knows whether it's going to get done.
	They're all playing power games right now.
	And everybody wants something in the deals and someone's not happy.
	Sometimes when you go through this kind of stuff, it happens in business all the time where some offer was made, then you flip, then you lose the guy, then you want the guy to come back and negotiate with you, but you lost trust with them because now you haven't kept your word on three different instances.
	The guy doesn't trust you moving forward.
	It could be on anything that a company is doing.
	It could be a bonus you were paying.
	It could be anything that you're doing.
	Like, listen, I just don't trust what this guy's going to be doing because this is now becoming a track record.
	So if behind closed doors, promises were made on deals that are not being kept, someone is not happy.
	If then Putin thinks that a side deal is happening with Zelensky that he's not aware of, that now Trump is going and siding with him, Putin's going to sit there and say, listen, I'm not in a hurry to do any deals with you.
	I'm going to keep going as far as I want to be going.
	If you're now siding with that guy over then, you know, over a deal you were doing with me.
	Because at this point, the minerals deals he wanted from Zelensky is what?
	It's done.
	It's done.
	They got it in place.
	But he hasn't gotten Putin to slow down with the fight.
	So that may take a minute as they're going through it.
	It doesn't seem like Putin's going to be listening.
	Rob, what is this clip that you have here, Rob?
	Sky News reporting.
	Sky News reporting on the Kremlin calling Trump emotionally overloaded.
	Really, go for it.
	Play the clip.
	From the Kremlin now, this is being brought to us by the Reuters news agency.
	Responding to those remarks made by Donald Trump regarding Vladimir Putin, and the Kremlin says there is some emotional overload at this crucial moment.
	That is the line being brought to us, quoting the Kremlin, saying, though, that despite Donald Trump saying that Vladimir Putin has gone, I quote, absolutely crazy, the Kremlin saying we are grateful to Trump for assistance in launching the Ukraine peace negotiations and that Russia, it says, had taken decisions necessary for the security of Russia and that it claims that the strikes on Ukraine were on military positive targets.
	Why are they shown an old clip of them having John Bolton there?
	Sky News has shown this thing.
	Very interesting to show a clip from back in the days.
	And Mnuchin.
	Yeah, and Mnuchin and Ivanka and Jared and a lot of these guys that are not showing the new regime that's there.
	All in all, you know, Putin's going to say all that stuff to try to get under his skin.
	This is a clip from 2019.
	But this seems to be a little bit of a more difficult task for him than it seemed like while he was campaigning.
	And Adam, I respect you for having your opinion, but at the end of the day, none of this happens if it wasn't for the last administration.
	Putin wasn't doing anything.
	He was at bay.
	He was chilling zero.
	Now it's a shitstorm because you propped up one guy.
	They made all of us think the other guy was Satan as if we're innocent as a country as well.
	I don't buy it, bro.
	I don't buy it at all.
	And I think it's, we created two freaking monsters.
	And then, and then, by the way Zielinski, he's our ally.
	What has he done for us?
	I'm just very curious.
	I know Pat wants to go to the next story.
	What is Ukraine doing for us?
	How is Ukraine helping the United States of America?
	How are they allied besides sucking us dry for all of our money, taking advantage of our old administration with the son and the dad and all those deals?
	I don't see any positive coming out of Ukraine.
	Can you give me one except hot girls?
	No, I'm being dead serious.
	Don't ever downplay that.
	Let's just be clear on that.
	But I'm just saying.
	But everything you said was correct.
	You know, as far as if we want to play Monday morning quarterback of why we got here, that's great.
	You're right.
	But how the hell does that help us end the war?
	It could have been prevented.
	Sure, if Trump was the president, none of this would have happened.
	The red line, sure, but that doesn't help us end the war now.
	And you are right.
	Like, Ukraine, up until now, was not an ally of the United States.
	They're not a member of NATO.
	You are right about that.
	But the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
	Let's never forget that.
	We're learning in real time that Russia, as much as certain people want to twist it, the Tucker Carlsons of the world, how they want to be sycophants to Putin's Russia.
	They are not our ally.
	The Cold War is still not over.
	And Putin is a legacy of the Cold War.
	And we're learning in real time how this guy wants to operate.
	That's my opinion.
	All right.
	Let's go to the next story here, guys.
	Next story I want to go to is a story.
	Two stories having to do with Tim Cook.
	So one of them is having to do with tariffs.
	The other one is about him and the governor of Texas.
	Two different things, but both very, very interesting.
	I'll start off with the first one.
	Rob, I don't know if we have a clip on this one or not.
	We do.
	Okay, so let's go through the first one.
	So Trump-Apple relationship devolves with threats.
	This is the hill.
	President Trump threatened a 25% tariff on Apple products if the company does not shift more manufacturing to the U.S., stating, I have long ago informed Tim Cook of Apple that I expect their iPhones that will be sold in the U.S. will be manufactured and built in the U.S. as well.
	And later told reporters the iPhone, if they're going to sell it in America, I want it to be built in the U.S.
	This marks a shift from the cordial relationship during Trump's first term when Apple secured tariffs exemption as Cook now faces pressure despite a $500 billion U.S. investment pledge, including a new Texas factory.
	The tariff threat, part of Trump's broader push to reshore manufacturing, follows Apple supplier Foxconn, one and a half billion dollar investment in India, prompting Trump to say, I said to him, Tim, you are my friend.
	I don't want you to build in India.
	Rob, is this the clip?
	Yes, go for it, Rob.
	Mr. President, on Apple, on Apple, you said this morning that if they don't make their iPhones in the U.S., you're going to hit them with a 25% tariff.
	Do you have the power to tariff one single company?
	And why would you want to put an American company in that way?
	It would be more.
	It would be also Samsung and anybody that makes that product.
	Otherwise, it wouldn't be fair.
	So anybody that makes that product, and that'll start on, I guess, the end of June, it'll come out.
	I think we have that appropriately done by the end of June.
	So if they make that product, now, again, when they build their plant here, there's no tariff.
	So they're going to be building plants here.
	But I had an understanding with Tim that he wouldn't be doing this.
	He said he's going to India to build plants.
	I said, that's okay to go to India, but you're not going to sell into here without tariffs.
	And that's the way it is.
	Yeah.
	Tom, your thoughts.
	So basically, it goes back to the this is the China chess game.
	Number one, he loves the fact that India is flanking China with trade deals.
	He loves that.
	And he loves that Tim Cook and Apple have been moving for several years in this direction.
	That's a good thing.
	The thing that President Trump is also pointing out is like, look, I want you to onshore or near shore your manufacturing.
	And even if you have automated manufacturing and there's a few people that work there, those are jobs working there.
	And it's also a whole bunch of jobs to build those buildings and those factories.
	And that's what Trump wants.
	Trump wants jobs in the U.S.
	He wants U.S. economy to get the benefit first.
	So he doesn't mind the flanking, but he doesn't want Apple to stop there.
	There's your headline.
	I want you to move out of China.
	I just don't want you to merely go next door to India and not bring any benefits to American Shore.
	That's what the discussion is about.
	And I support the president.
	I think he's absolutely right.
	What percentage does he have to move to the States for him to be happy with it?
	Because he didn't say 100%, right?
	He says a portion.
	What is a portion?
	Do you think they've had that specific conversation to say, I need 20% to be made here?
	Yeah, well, I don't know if it's a percent or it's like, look, take me through your products that you could make here without crushing the cost for the consumer.
	What could you do?
	Could you do earpods here?
	What could you be making here on shore so that there'd be a benefit to the American consumer in terms of jobs, benefit to the American economy, and you're not going to crush the price?
	I think that's the conversation.
	Trump does deals.
	So I think that's the discussion with Tim.
	Tim, come on.
	You know, what can you put on shore?
	What can you do that won't crush your economics and also make it hard for the consumer?
	Because he even said when the reporter followed up, well, what about Samsung?
	No, no, no.
	It'll apply to all of them.
	Otherwise, that wouldn't be fair.
	You heard him say that?
	So he's saying openly there, hey, Tim, I'm not going to disadvantage you.
	I'm going to press the button for everybody.
	I think it's a discussion of what can be brought on.
	But if I had to throw a dart at the wall, you know, I think he's going to look at it and say, okay, what percent of your devices are sold to Americans?
	And I think he's going to want to put them on a path toward that number.
	Adam, your thoughts?
	So get ready for your iPhone to cost more money, my American friends.
	You ever gone to the mall?
	You ever seen at the Apple store just people lining up for hours, if not days, for the latest iPhone product?
	Have you seen this ever?
	Of course.
	So I see it all the time.
	I'm like, I'm still, I think, operating on an iPhone 14.
	I don't even know what version we're on these days.
	But two things are going to happen.
	First, let's get this out of China into India.
	I totally understand why Trump wants it made in the USA, but understand that as an American, when you see made in the USA, you know what's going to happen next?
	Get ready to pay a premium.
	Because if iPhones cost $1,000 and you're talking 25% tariffs, your iPhone is now going to cost $1,250.
	And the American consumer is going to pay the price for being made in America.
	Now, if you love America, get ready to pay a little bit more.
	And that's fine.
	But most Americans are paycheck to paycheck.
	Most Americans feel they deserve the latest, the greatest, the best.
	But you're going to have to pay a little bit more for that.
	Well, guess what?
	Adam, and I'm happy that you have the 14 because guess what?
	If we want to make America great again and we do want to bring jobs back here, Tommy, guess what?
	If you have the 14, you don't need the 17 or the 18.
	This is a freaking batting down the hatches type of moment.
	And I get, and I love that attitude.
	I'm saying I love that point of view.
	It's like, we want the next, like, I don't, I hate this phone now.
	It's almost as if, remember when Apple got in trouble, Pat, they were sending that thing that made the phone and the battery die quicker.
	They got in trouble for that shit because they want you to buy the new phone.
	You know what I mean?
	You don't need the brand new phone every single year.
	Who the hell do you think you are?
	If you can't afford it, calm your ass down, let America adjust, and then we move on from there.
	That's my attitude.
	They're talking about 60 million new phones.
	If they bring and build a fully manufactured phone in America, it's roughly $3,500.
	It's $3,500.
	If you want to buy the brand new one.
	Fully manufactured iPhone built in America is $3,500.
	So to me, if that comes here, companies are making more profits.
	You're creating more jobs.
	Salaries are going up.
	No problem.
	You can afford it.
	But if it's not, it's a big price.
	So what happens then?
	Then Apple sits on a lot of phones that are not move-in.
	Apple knows if they go to India, then Apple's going to do whatever they can to get a new president to come in because a new president hopefully is going to be in a different way with phones being made.
	Who knows what's going to happen?
	So there is the pressures on free enterprise when you see things like this happen.
	A story came out about the fact that shipping, I don't know what page that shipping story is on, Rob, but there's a story about shipping that is prices for shipping.
	Say that again.
	Page seven.
	Page seven.
	Yeah, there's a story about, and it has nothing to do with the phones.
	I'll come back to it.
	Shipping costs set to double as companies rush to import goods before China-U.S. trade ends.
	So for me, I would love for those things to be built here, but you just have to know the prices are going to go up.
	So major shipping carriers like Hapak Lloyd plan to raise their rates for a 40-foot container from China to West Coast to $6,500, Vinny, from $3,500.
	These containers used to only cost you $3,500.
	Now it's $65.
	And East Coast ports to $7,500 instead of $4,500.
	For West Coast, it's an 80%, 90% increase.
	For East Coast, it's roughly 70% increase.
	That's a massive increase of what they're doing.
	That's not a joke.
	As of June 1st, as companies rush to import goods before May 12th, China's U.S. trade truce expires with Jay Foreman or Basic Fund stating the increase will squeeze profit margins and it'll result in higher prices for consumers.
	Another $8,500 container is expected to be by June 15, according to Journal of Commerce.
	So gradually they're raising the rates, going a little bit higher, a little bit higher.
	And this leads me to, Rob, if you can go to my story with the money market.
	There's a tweet I put up there from Shamat right there.
	If you can show this, watch this.
	So bar chart, Tom, if you take a look at this, a staggering $7.24 trillion is now sitting in money markets.
	Can you just click on the, this is an all-time high.
	Vinny, you know what this is?
	You know what a money market is?
	So money market is kind of like imagine you have a checking account.
	You make no interest on it.
	Then say you got a saving account.
	Let's say you make half a percent off.
	Barely.
	Then let's say you got a CD today.
	I don't know what a CD pays today, Rob.
	If you can pull it up, what does a CD pay today out of bank?
	Let's say one year, two year, five year, Rob.
	Whatever the number is, it tells you.
	Say it's anywhere between 1% to 3%.
	I'm just making up numbers right now.
	4.50?
	Currently, 2.3%.
	The best CDs are paying 4.50, 4%.
	Okay, great.
	A six-month is paying 3.85%.
	They got a 4%.
	So a money market today, what is the rate of return in the best money market account?
	You can literally put your money in a money market today, no matter what the stock market does, no matter what the stock market does.
	Your money market, as of today, at any bank you choose, many of them, Discover Bank, 3.5%, all the way up to 4.4%.
	Okay.
	Bank rate even tells you it's between 4% to 4.5%.
	So let's just say a person has got a million dollars.
	Let's say $10 million.
	You put $10 million in a money market.
	What are you making per year?
	4%.
	4%, 4.5%.
	What's 4.5% of $10 million?
	$450,000 per year.
	I was just going to say it.
	If a person's making $450,000 a year, you know what the money market was four years ago?
	Nothing.
	What was money market rates, money market rates in 2019?
	Below percent?
	Let me just find out what it was in 2019.
	0.25, nothing.
	In 2019, it was 0.01.
	The point is it's gone up.
	It's rarely this high.
	So when you're seeing that much, okay, Rob, go back to the money market accounts where it's at.
	Look at this here.
	We have $7.2 trillion.
	$7.2 trillion.
	Is it trillion?
	I think it is trillion.
	$7.2 trillion right now, Vinny.
	That's sitting in money market.
	That's cash.
	That's a lot of money.
	Do you know what that sign is of?
	Because the president wants that money to be where?
	If I believe in the future of SP 500, where would that money be?
	In the stock market.
	If it's in the stock market, that means I'm optimistic.
	If it's in the money market, I'm saying, dude, I don't know what's going to happen when you're going to be able to.
	I'm going to make sure my money's chilling.
	I'm just going to be chilling.
	So even with all the instability that's going on, if that my prediction in the next six to 18 months, that's going to drop to 5.5 trillion to 6.2 trillion because I think people are going to go to the market.
	Do you see how that looks like from 2008?
	How all of a sudden it dropped.
	No, look at the drop.
	What is the drop?
	The drop is 2008.
	2008.
	Go a little bit higher.
	That's five.
	Right there.
	You see eight.
	Boom.
	All of a sudden it drops, which means people are going into the market, right?
	I'm going to put some money in the market and I'm going to go.
	And then boom, it spikes up again.
	I'm nervous.
	So we haven't seen a drop off since 2018, 2019 in the market.
	We haven't seen it.
	So there's a concern here what that could look like.
	Tom, your thoughts on this chart?
	Well, this is a great chart, Pat.
	There's two spikes.
	You see the spike we have right now, which is like the tariff spike.
	And then you have the spike.
	Then there's a little flatness there where it's like a little jiggly.
	And then you see that spike that's there, Vinny, 2020, 2021.
	See that big spike right there?
	You know what that was?
	COVID.
	Oh my God, what's happening?
	I'm scared.
	And I put out of the market and I put my money in a money market.
	Then we come out of COVID.
	It levels for a bit.
	Now here come the tariffs.
	Oh my God, I'm scared.
	What do I do?
	I pull out and I put my money in a money market.
	But take a look at what's happening.
	The SP is back to 58.50.
	We had a big bounce yesterday because Trump said, well, you know what?
	You know what?
	Maybe I'll wait another 30 days, 60 days, 90 days before full impact of tariffs.
	The market loves that.
	So here we are, 5,900 again.
	By the way, 61.50 is basically the all-time high under since November 4th.
	Well, what do you think?
	$7.2 trillion in money markets.
	Here's what I think.
	The minute those things feel confident and they go out and start demanding stock, the indexes are going to go up.
	But what it says is that people are uncertain and a little bit scared at the moment.
	That's what it shows.
	It shows uncertainty and fear.
	And the best thing when you're uncertain and fear is you flee to things like gold and cash when interest rates are good with interest rates being the key there.
	Let me go to the next story here.
	Tim Cook called Texas governor to stop online child safety legislation.
	Whoa.
	Why would Tim Cook call to stop? online child safety legislation.
	This is a Wall Street Journal story.
	Apple CO Tim Cook personally called Texas Governor Abbott to request changes or a veto of a child safety bill requiring app stores to verify users' ages with an Apple spokesman stating if enacted, Apple marketplaces will be required to collect and keep sensitive personal identity information for every Texan who wants to download an app, even if it's an app that simply provides weather updates or sports scores.
	The bill passed with veto-proof majorities would make Texas the largest state to adopt such an app store accountability law, potentially increasing costs for Apple.
	And Google, the Texas legislation mandates that app stores verify device owners' ages, linking minors' accounts to parents for an app approval with supporter senator Angela Paxton said her parent help parents understand what their children are really interacting with and give them tools to help them make a good parenting decision.
	Tom, your thoughts on this?
	Well, Tim Cook's had a busy week.
	He's working hard and he's got things going on.
	But there's some things in here that America needs to think about.
	Think about this.
	If you want to operate a liquor store in the state of Texas, actually in the state of anywhere, right?
	Vinny, you want to operate a liquor store.
	You have to check IDs, everybody in there, right?
	And you have to get yourself a liquor license.
	If you have an accent like I want to sell the liquidity.
	No, no, no.
	Don't do that.
	I'll stay.
	Just go.
	I don't want to get into carry.
	But you want to do it.
	You get yourself a license in some state and you start, you operate a liquor store.
	And you have to check IDs for everyone that doesn't look 30.
	And you have those stickers that are up by the register.
	If you don't look 30, we're going to card you.
	Don't get pissed off.
	Okay.
	And guess what?
	When you swipe their credit card, you're keeping sensitive information.
	You have their name.
	You've got date of birth.
	You've got all kinds of things.
	And you've got a credit card record.
	So now all they're saying is, hey, Apple, if you want to operate in the state of Texas, and when kids are downloading apps like games where they can actually, they want to buy additional levels and things in the games, or the games or things like Grand Theft Auto.
	They're saying, hey, guess what?
	You got to link the kid's account to your account because parents are also asking, wait a minute, I want to know what's on Instagram and Facebook.
	I know that certain things at Grand Theft Auto are going to get rated higher and I have to allow, I have to allow my kid, unless they get around me, to get that app.
	And Tim Cook's being told by, says, listen, want to operate a gun store, want to operate a liquor store, you want to operate a supermarket that sells beer, you got to check IDs.
	You have to do like this.
	Guess what?
	We're asking you to check and we're asking you to link because there's another thing hiding an iceberg below the surface that Apple doesn't want to talk about and Meta doesn't want to talk about.
	And the fact is all these statistics on kids and the distraction and what's happening in school when they're on social media during class, what's happening to the minds and young girls.
	We don't need to do it now, but there's a ton of data out on young girls that were suffering depression, hurting themselves, or doing things online they shouldn't be directly attributed to social media and social media platforms that were actively out there trying to exploit them.
	And so now Texas has said, we've had enough.
	Apple, you are the store.
	And if you want to sell these things in your store to Texans, you got to check.
	This is what we want you to do.
	And they say, well, it's going to cost us a lot of money.
	It says, okay, well, let me check.
	Checking my notes.
	Yeah, you're the largest, most valuable company in the world.
	I think you got some walking around money that you can handle putting these things in place and do development.
	You're a software developer.
	Develop things to make it easier.
	Adam, your thoughts.
	Well, I want to kick this back to you, PBD, because this seems like something that parents need to be fully aware of, whether they're in Texas or not.
	You know, this past weekend, I was at one of my best friends.
	Son's bar mitzvah, 13 years old.
	I took my nephew, Rory, who's 12.
	So all my friends, their kids are 10, 11, 12, 13 in this age bracket.
	And they all freaking have phones.
	And I remember being at Quinceaneras and birthdays and bar mitzvahs, you know, 100 years ago when I was that age, and you were so fully in the moment and so fully present.
	And now everyone's on a phone.
	So what I want to understand is, as a parent, how do you navigate stuff like that these days?
	Because for me, it's very weird seeing kids 13 years old, 12 years old, just face down in their phone, not living their life.
	I know you've been very clear about how you handle this, but what's your advice on the general parenting with phones out there?
	Well, I mean, look, what Apple is trying to do, we had Layla Mickelwaite on and a porn hop owner.
	Rob, if you remember when we had the porn up owner on, and I'm asking him, saying, so why aren't you just checking IDs for people that go on pornhop?
	No, we can't do that.
	Why?
	Well, is it because 90% of traffic will drop because nobody wants their IDs to be checked?
	Like imagine going on a porn website.
	Okay, post your picture of your ID.
	Hell no.
	Yeah, I know who you are.
	I don't watch.
	No, no, you don't want to.
	The person who's like, I don't want to be documented up going on.
	I said, well, you would lose 90 to 95% of your traffic.
	No, we wouldn't.
	I guarantee you you would.
	So Layla Mickelwaite pursues this and goes as far as doing this.
	And I think she was one of the ones that caused this Senate Bill 2420 to be taking place at governor's signature aiming to require app stores to providers like Apple and Google to verify users.
	Let me tell you, this is massive for a lot of people in the porn industry that if this legislation goes through in Texas, guess who does it next?
	All the other red states.
	They're going to say, we want the same exact thing.
	When it comes down to phones, Dylan's over here.
	So as a kid, your kids are going to ask you for the phone for a few different reasons.
	Let's go through them.
	One of them is what?
	Is video games.
	Okay.
	What's the other thing?
	Is listening to music.
	What's the other thing?
	Texting their friends.
	So remember, you have three things.
	Well, they can't buy if they don't have your credit card.
	So Amazon.
	Well, Amazon.
	Yeah, but if you don't give them a logged in account that they can't log in and just go buy stuff.
	So you got what?
	You got texting, you got music, you got video games.
	Yes.
	Or YouTube if they're watching videos and they're watching movies and stuff like that, Netflix, right?
	So as a parent, if you want them to, like, we're on a flight here, and on the flight, you know, the kids watch movies in the, you know, on the seat.
	You can see this.
	So that at least gives you that.
	Hey, I want to listen to some music.
	You hand a phone to him.
	He's listening to music, but he's listening to music and he's texting.
	Of course.
	Or she's texting.
	So, okay, now I'm texting.
	Do you want that level of accessibility at that young age to be texting somebody non-stop?
	I don't.
	So now, phones and iPads, you have to be, parents have to be very much, because kids can tell you, I just want to listen to some music, but they're really texting somebody and not playing video games.
	I'm definitely not for yesterday went to dinner and we had a few people that are not accustomed to being with dinner with us and the phone was sitting on the table and it's driving me in nuts the half time.
	You know why?
	Because I'm like, my kids are not going to come and say, well, if they can have a phone on the table, why do you not?
	And I'm like, no, everybody.
	So, you know, we go to summertime, we go vacation together or Christmas or whatever we do.
	What happens?
	All phones are off the table.
	Tom, I, Vinnie, we literally grab our phones.
	I know this sounds weird and we fully put it on a different table and we don't even look at the phone for two hours.
	And what does it make us do?
	We're talking.
	Talking.
	Looking at each other.
	We're talking.
	We're talking.
	We're talking conversation.
	I think we need to go more and more in that direction.
	But this is to the average parent, to the average person that's reading the story.
	They're like, I don't even know why they're covering the story.
	To the average person, trust me, it may not be a big deal to you.
	But to somebody that's in business that knows what's about to happen with Apple, there is a reason why Tim Cook picked up the call and called the governor, not saying one of his C-suite executives to call.
	This could be massive for Apple and very expensive across the board.
	They do not want this.
	Let me get to the next story here.
	Next story here.
	All right.
	So the only reason I'm bringing this up is because how a small little story elevated into this crazy story that we got here today.
	So, you know, Caitlin Clark is playing a game.
	And there's this issue with her and Angel Reese.
	There's this Caitlin Clarks pushes one of the teammates of Caitlin Clark.
	I'm sorry, Angel Reese pushes one of the teammates of Caitlin Clark.
	Caitlin Clark fouls Angel Reese.
	Angel Reese does one of these LeBron flops and falls on the ground.
	I mean, she learned it from LeBron, falls to the ground.
	And the next thing you know, the market's like, oh my God, she's protected.
	Oh, it's all because she's white and all this other stuff.
	And then Angel Reese comes out and she's saying all these things.
	And then Jamil Hill comes out.
	Rob, I don't know if you have this clip or not.
	Jamil Hill comes out and says Angel Reese at the end of her career is going to end up being calls Angel Reese end of career will be known as Michael Jordan.
	All right.
	So for some of you guys that are watching this, have you seen this thing?
	So Jamil Hill, Rob, if you can find this thing, she says Angel Reese will end up being Michael Jordan in the end of her career.
	All right.
	We'll find this.
	Yes.
	I just typed it up, asked the question.
	Yes, Jamil Hill has publicly expressed her belief in Angel Reese has the potential to become the Michael Jordan of WNBA in a recent statement he'll placed ahead of Caitlin Clark suggesting that Reese could be viewed as the league's defining superstar like a Michael Jordan.
	Is that the one, Rob?
	If you can.
	I'm looking for the clip.
	Yeah, okay.
	Anyway, so then outside of that, RG3 comes out and says, man, you know, Caitlin Clark is a superstar and she's, you know, big than life and all this stuff.
	Ryan Clark out of nowhere, Ryan Clark, who's a commentator, out of nowhere, comes out and he says, well, what does RG3 know anything about this?
	RG3, who was a former quarterback, a great rookie quarterback.
	Washington, Washington, yeah.
	Went to Marshall.
	Went to Marshall.
	He says, what would RG3 know, who's a black man, by the way, says, what would RG3 know about this?
	He's married to a white woman.
	So they're like, wait, what did you say?
	Ryan Clark says RG3 is married to a white woman.
	What would he know about all this stuff that's taking place?
	He actually said those words.
	Are you kidding me?
	What were you?
	I haven't heard that.
	So, okay, Rob, can you?
	What a crap.
	Can you find this clip where Ryan Clark says, how would he know he's married to a white girl?
	Is that the clip, Rob?
	Yes, sir.
	Okay, play this clip.
	Watch this, Vinny.
	We moved in to being able to read the expressions of a person who knows a little bit because they know their character, know their perspective.
	But But he does understand hate because I think he also understands the hate of self.
	When you look at the play, which is all we can speak to as professionals, all we can speak to as analysts, Andrew Reese pushed one of her teammates.
	Caitlin Clark had a hard foul, which is part of basketball.
	I feel like it was assessed correctly.
	And Angel Reese's reaction is the sort of reaction you get in a situation when you feel like you took an intentionally hard.
	Rob, is this the one where he's consensus?
	That's rivalry.
	RG3 is married to a girl.
	And so now, though, when RG3 jumps on to the hate train or to the angry train, it now follows along with what we saw from Keith Oberman, what we saw from Dave Portenoy, as they poured on to Andrew Reese to make her the villain in Caitlin Clark's heroic or hero story.
	The one thing we know about RG3 is he's not having conversations at his home about what black women have to endure in this country, about what young black women and athletes like Angel Reese have had to deal with, being on the opposite side of Caitlin Clark's rise and ascension into stardom.
	By the way, I think Asia Wilson discontinues the face of the league.
	Angel Wilson.
	Who's the face of the league?
	He said Angel Reese.
	Who did he say is the face of the league?
	Asia Wilson.
	You can pause that.
	RG3 responds back.
	RG3 responds back and says, what is that all about?
	To Ryan Clark's credit, he apologizes about this.
	Then Brittany Griner is playing a game, and this is what Brittany Griner calls.
	I was not going to comment on any of this stuff until this took place.
	Watch what she says.
	The entire internet has reacted to this.
	Here's Britney Grinder.
	They're playing against the Indiana fever.
	And look what she's saying.
	Go ahead, Rob.
	For the ticky-tack fouls that we were talking about earlier today.
	That pretty much sounds like trash effing white girl.
	Yeah.
	I mean, let's just be honest.
	So the whole market reacts to this with Britney Griner, right?
	And then the other quote, Rob, then I'm going to wrap this up and then I'm going to go to Adam.
	Put the quote of Brittany Grinder, what she said about the NBA.
	This is so funny how all this stuff works out, right?
	She says, this is from Britney.
	Every time we play her, there's this commotion, like this loud rumbling from the stands.
	Turns out it's people, thousands of them, just sitting there watching on purpose.
	It's very disruptive.
	It's called the freaking game that they pay you money to play.
	Don't play the game.
	It's very disruptive.
	It continues.
	Brittany Griner voice frustration in a recent interview claiming that Caitlin Clark is ruining what used to make the WNBA great.
	Wait for this.
	Empty stands?
	Tom, let me just go ahead and get so mad.
	WNBA games used to be a chill, quiet place.
	You could bring your laptop and relax, maybe even get a little work done.
	But now it's like there's a large gathering of people watching us from the stand.
	Some of them are yelling crazy shit about what they're seeing, putting unfair pressure on us to score like we're there for their entertainment.
	And that's pretty gross.
	Are you verified that this is what she said on the mom and pop WNBA model?
	That she's sick of the band.
	And then she says, the whole thing is toxic.
	I saw a guy with his daughter in the crowd, both of them yelling.
	Couldn't hear what they were saying exactly, but it was either about my performance or some light racism.
	Definitely one of the two.
	Give me a flipping break.
	Can I say something?
	Yeah, of course.
	First of all, first of all, I mean, and I know Adam, you definitely have something to say, but, and I know, Adam, I'm going to piggyback off of Adam because Adam's been saying this for a while.
	That this is why the WNBA is never, ever, ever going to work and never make money.
	And this is exactly what Caitlin Clark gets for bending the knee.
	Do you guys remember when she said what we lost all respect for her?
	When she said, I want to say I've earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege.
	And the more we can elevate black women, this is going to be a beautiful thing.
	That's when it was all over.
	And Angel Reese and Brittany Griner, they walk around like the league owes them something.
	Even Ryan Clark's attitude as if, bro, where's the victimhood?
	These are freaking millionaires.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	It's attitude.
	It's no humility, just entitlement.
	And that's not confidence.
	It's arrogance with receipts.
	Okay.
	If you want fans, if you want your league to grow, act like a professional.
	Okay.
	The league already started on the water, and instead of fixing it, they're just poking more holes in the boat.
	And think about it, Brittany Griner talking all that trash.
	We traded the merchant of death for your ass, and you're out there talking shit and being saying racist shit on the freaking sideline, and it's disgusting.
	Okay, that's why nobody watches it.
	And it'll be a lot of fun.
	No, they're watching it.
	No, no.
	The point is, Vinny, if Caitlin Clark goes and is playing, they're watching it.
	Guess what was just announced yesterday?
	What?
	Caitlin Clark's injured.
	She'll be out for two weeks.
	Good for you.
	Let's see what happens to viewership.
	Good.
	Let's see what happens to viewership.
	But do you think, and I know Adam's going to go, but do you think Caitlin Clark on her own is going to save this thing?
	There's no way, especially with what she said and how they're all going to eat her alive because she's a white girl in a league with predominantly black women.
	And the fact that, by the way, how can you say I'm sitting there and people are yelling, thousands of people?
	It's distracting.
	You're playing basketball in an arena.
	It doesn't make sense, Tom.
	They're doomed.
	They're doomed and good for them.
	Adam, how much money did they lose?
	A year?
	All of it.
	How much?
	How much?
	I mean, it's not even just a year.
	Every year.
	Tens of millions of dollars every year.
	They're like the federal government.
	So I'm not going to do what you think I'm going to do and just trash the WNBA and tell you how horrible of a league it is and what a zombie company it is and how it is just completely toxic feminism with a little bit of racism and completely losing money.
	I'm not just going to do that, PBD.
	I'm glad you didn't even mention it.
	Thanks, Adam.
	I'm also going to tell you that the only reason that we're talking about the NBW NBA is two reasons.
	Number one, you know that summer's here and the NBA, the NHL football season is pretty much either ending or coming to an or beginning because all we have left is Tom's favorite sport, Major League Baseball, or WNBA.
	And this is the reason they played in the summer because there's nothing else going on.
	So you know that the WNBA is coming in with that.
	Number two, we started this conversation with Angel Reese is going to be the second coming of who?
	Michael Jordan.
	Michael Jordan, stop it.
	Okay.
	Kobe's not Michael Jordan.
	LeBron's not Michael Jordan.
	Harold Miner back in the day was never Michael Jordan.
	Now the left-handed Michael Jordan.
	Exactly.
	So now some six foot four, maybe lesbian or not is the new Michael Jordan.
	Stop it.
	Okay, let me know.
	The whole reason we're talking about the WNBA is because of Caitlin Clark.
	Angel Reese, at best, is the next Carl Anthony Towns.
	Shout out to the Knicks.
	But I will say one last thing.
	Sports, no matter what.
	There's no wishes Carl Anthony Towns.
	That DEI does not exist.
	There's no wishes Carl Anthony Towns.
	Do you know why there's no wishes Carl Anthony Towns?
	Carl Anthony Towns shoots 40% from three, and he scored 20 points in a fourth quarter the other day.
	This is an insult to Carl Anthony Towns.
	Rob, can you pull up the stat that was just pulled up?
	Watch this here.
	Rob, I just ask you to Google something.
	Go all the way to the top.
	What did you Google, Rob?
	Can I tell the audience?
	You typed in Angel Reese, 22.7%, lowest field goal percentage in season.
	Yes, in a ESPN report, shows that Angel Reese has a field goal percentage of 22.7% in a WNBA game, which is a significantly lower than our average Juju, the lowest percentage report.
	This woman in a season.
	Rob, do me a favor, Rob, go to ChatGPT and type in the following.
	What is the single worst shooting percentage ever in WNBA?
	What is a single worst shooting percentage ever in WNBA?
	No, you type in ever.
	Ever, ever in WNBA.
	What is the worst shooting percentage ever in WNBA?
	If you can put that ever in WNBA.
	Watch this, folks.
	Zoom in a little bit if you could.
	Watch this.
	Look what's going to come up.
	You ready?
	This is supposed to be Michael Jordan.
	The lowest.
	Angel Reese's in contrast.
	What do you see?
	Angel Reese's performance.
	Watch this.
	This is the kicker.
	Amongst players with more substantial playing time, Angel Reese's performance in 2024 stands out.
	She shot 43.8% on attempts within five feet of the basket.
	Do you know what five feet is, Minnie?
	That's right here.
	If she's 6'4, fingertip to fingertip to 6'6.
	So these guys are such clowns.
	You have a shot at getting more eyeballs to your league.
	And all of a sudden, you fear because it's Caitlin Clark, a white girl.
	You know who Caitlin Clark's going to end up being in the weirdest way possible if she makes it?
	She's going to be the Jackie Robinson of WNBA.
	Who was the Jackie Robinson of MLB?
	He brought blacks to the game.
	Of course.
	Okay.
	Jackie Robinson of the WNBA will be Caitlin Clark if she stays healthy.
	There's a group of them that would hope for her to be out.
	Why do you say she's going to be the Jackie Robinson of the WNBA?
	She's the first white girl.
	She's not the first white girl, but she's the first white superstar at the levels where she's scoring these, you know, the threes she's shooting.
	She's like a Steph Curry.
	She's the first actual superstar that people care.
	When's the last time we watched like college basketball?
	If I told you, tell me the greatest college basketball female basketball players last 30 years and you watch.
	I know her.
	She's our meet.
	You look at some of these names, you see some of these people on how they do.
	But Caitlin Clark came out the gates and put up some numbers we've never seen before.
	Can I give some pushback to that?
	Of course.
	Because if you Google, if you Google who is the greatest WNBA player of all time, I guarantee you, Diana Taurasi is going to be at the top of the list.
	Find that out for me.
	What's my point?
	She made her mark in college.
	I think for a UK.
	Caitlin's been playing for a year and a half, Adam.
	Of course she's not the greatest of all time.
	That's not what I'm asking.
	What I'm saying is this.
	Nobody gave a crap about Diana Taurasi because she became, she came out pre-feminism, pre this push for making everything about feminism and femininity and pushing women down our throats.
	Without them pushing Caitlin Clark and them advertising and marketing and put her on TV, nobody cares about the WNBA.
	Diana Taurasi did the exact same thing Caitlin Clark is doing.
	Shoots threes, makes assists, and does her thing.
	But nobody cared.
	But now that they're pushing this down our throat, you got to like the WNBA.
	You have to watch this.
	You have to watch this.
	Now people start caring.
	Diana Taurasi already did this.
	She was the Jackie Robinson, so to speak.
	But now they're doing this with Caitlin Clark.
	And as if we're supposed to be like, oh my God, I can't wait for more WNBA.
	No one cares.
	But they're pushing feminism down our throat.
	And it's the same, by the way, and it's just anything with the words NBA in it.
	Same thing with LeBron James.
	He's the face.
	He's anti-cop.
	He's anti-American.
	He's pro-China.
	And how's the NBA doing?
	How's the NBA doing regular season?
	Is anybody watching the NBA?
	Be honest.
	This guy used to watch it all the time.
	I don't even remember the last time you even watched the game.
	When's the last time you actually saw an actual full NBA game?
	Yeah, for me.
	That next Indiana series is going good.
	In this case, in this case, when you look at Taurasi when she came in versus Caitlin Clark, a part of what Adam is saying is trying to say that the woman empowerment is bigger than it's ever been before, and that's why this is going on.
	I don't know if that's the case.
	Maybe, maybe not.
	But the reality of it is, I've never seen anybody more exciting as a female basketball player than her.
	It's got nothing to do with skin because Diana Taurasi is also not black.
	She's, you know, I don't know what nationality she is.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if she is.
	I mean, we're in Italy, so she's a white girl.
	She's white, but we're just.
	Diana Taurasi.
	Some people thought she was Indian, and all of a sudden she turned black.
	I don't know what happened with her.
	I thought she was.
	I thought maybe she was Armenian, but apparently she is.
	Let me see.
	Is she Arabic or is she something?
	I thought she was Armenian.
	Who cares?
	Look, I mean, at this point, again, we're moving on.
	But the reality of it is, Angel Reese, according to Jamil Hill, is going to be the Michael Jordan of the WNBA.
	And they lost Caitlin Clark.
	Let's watch some data to see what the WNBA viewership does the next couple weeks.
	All right, let's go to the next story.
	Let's go to the next story.
	Next story I want to go to is Jordan Peterson, Rob, if you got this clip.
	I just want to get your reaction to it.
	Jordan Peterson, over the last 10 years, has gotten billions of views online.
	He's one of the most watched influencers.
	He'll put events together.
	Thousands of people will show up and pay to watch this man speak.
	He's had a lot of influence over young men, wrote 12 Rules for Life that sold millions on top of millions of copies, has been very successful, made a lot of money.
	But they do this Jubilee thing that he sits down with this other young man.
	And, you know, look, kudos to anybody that goes here because you're being targeted by 20 people that have all been researching to put you on your place and have an opportunity for a video like this that we don't know who you are.
	And all the eyeballs come and you get a bunch of attention, right?
	Here's him and Jordan Peterson speaking.
	Go ahead, Robin, play the clip.
	Is that relevant?
	Because you go to a Catholic church, don't you?
	Or you've attended recently.
	You're interested in Catholicism, aren't you?
	Sure.
	All right.
	Are you familiar with their doctrines?
	Somewhat?
	Okay, you're familiar with their doctrines or victims.
	How do they regard Mary?
	Why are you asking me that?
	Because you're a Christian.
	You say that.
	I haven't claimed that.
	Oh, what is this?
	Is this Christians versus atheists?
	I don't know.
	You don't know where you are right now.
	Don't be a smart ass.
	Well, either you're a Christian or you're not.
	If you're a smart ass.
	Either you're a Christian or you're not.
	Which one is it?
	I could be either of them, but I don't have to tell you.
	You could you.
	You don't have to tell me.
	I was under the impression I was invited to talk to a Christian.
	Am I not talking to a Christian?
	No, you were invited to.
	I think everyone should look at the title of the YouTube channel.
	You're probably in the wrong YouTube video.
	You're really quite something you are.
	Aren't I?
	But you're really quite nothing.
	Right?
	You're not a Christian.
	I'm done with him.
	What do you think?
	I mean, if I'm being real, I'm really disappointed.
	We got a guy who's helped millions to see value and order, discipline, family tradition.
	And then you pull back on the one foundation that you come from.
	Okay?
	He's lectured on biblical stories like he's Moses.
	And then the guy just asks you, are you a Christian?
	I don't care, Catholic, Protestant.
	Are you a Christian?
	Because you've been claiming and you're preaching it that you are.
	Why have that moment?
	What are you scared of?
	Why?
	Now you've confused the shit.
	Tommy, am I, you know what I mean?
	You can't talk about the power of the Bible and logos and Christianity and Jesus Christ and claim all this.
	And then when the moment happens, and I think that kid, whoever this kid is, won this freaking debate to where you have to say, I don't want to talk to you anymore.
	You lose it right there.
	Why don't you say that you're a Christian?
	What are you scared of?
	What's funny is because originally when they uploaded this video on Jubilee, it was the title was one Christian versus 20 Atheists.
	Then they changed the title to Jordan Peterson versus 20 Atheist.
	Did you get that?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You want me to say that one more time?
	So originally it was one Christian, which is who?
	Jordan Peterson versus 20 Atheist.
	And then they change it to Jordan Peterson versus 20 Atheist because he said, how do you know if I'm a Christian?
	I mean, that change took place.
	But Adam, how did you see this between Jordan Peterson and this young kid?
	Yeah, only in the modern day of the internet and soundbites can a kid who's likely done nothing with his life, nothing with his life, probably in college so far, come in and own one of the greatest philosophers, speakers, doctors of our time, Jordan Peterson.
	Now, Jordan Peterson probably should have had a better answer.
	I don't know his religion.
	It's not for me to comment on he is who he is.
	But this kid has gone famous now for owning Jordan Peterson.
	I would have loved to have seen the rest of the discussion.
	I would love to see if there was any productivity of having a conversation like this.
	But for Jordan Peterson's, his entire career to be, you know, stompled on by this kid who just wants to basically dunk on Jordan Peterson and say, you stand for nothing or whatever he said, is just sort of testament to where we're living today, where a kid can go famous and viral for basically dunking on a great thinker when a great thinker doesn't necessarily want to argue with a meaningless child.
	But you're assuming it, Adam, because Jesus Christ didn't mince words.
	In Matthew, Tom, chapter 10, verse 33, he said, but whoever denies me before men would also deny him before my father who is in heaven.
	It's not a riddle.
	It's a lie in the sand.
	You can't play neutral when it comes to Christ.
	And I don't care what moment he's having or how philosophical.
	And yes, he's a great mind, but Jesus Christ didn't suffer and die so we could treat faith like a philosophy class because that's not how it is, Adam.
	Either you're all in or you're one of these sideline poop talkers.
	And I'm just not a fan of it.
	Tom, your thoughts on this.
	I don't understand the premise.
	If he's not a Christian, then he doesn't have to.
	So, no, he is a Christian.
	But when you're on the spot and you're saying it, why not say it?
	He says.
	Tom, your thoughts.
	So I think Jordan Peterson missed a wonderful opportunity because, you know, what's interesting is if you're going to do a debate with people on anything, right?
	Anything, you know, baseball people 10 years ago debating about designated hitters, should it be in both leagues?
	If you go into a debate on anything at all and you hit the other person on the head, you're going to get nowhere.
	And when sharing about faith and when talking about faith, he missed an opportunity because this young man told him what he was thinking.
	He said, aren't you concerned with, are you familiar with some of the doctrines of Catholicism?
	And all you have to say is, yes, I'm a Christian and I understand the teachings of Jesus Christ and I know why I believe them.
	Can you share with me what your foundation is and why you believe that?
	That's a non-offensive question, asking the other person the level set.
	And then you can walk into apologetics and talk about the very beautiful message that is present.
	And there are many examples given in the Bible of how to debate this.
	Paul, the Apostle Paul, went to Rome.
	And when he was in Rome, he walked around and he found an altar.
	And it was the Romans at that age were very superstitious.
	They had Roman gods for everything.
	And they had gods for why there was thunder and why there was rain and all kinds of other things.
	And he comes up to them.
	And because they're superstitious, maybe they missed one.
	They had the thing that said to the tomb, no, an altar to the unknown God.
	So they're saying, and just in case we missed one, we don't want you to be upset.
	Here's your altar and here's where we are.
	And he said, might I tell you about one you don't know?
	And the people were curious and they engaged in debate and they said many understood and believed.
	So when you have an opportunity like this, I think Jordan Peterson missed the boat.
	What is the problem saying, yes, I'm a Christian and here's why I believe what I believe.
	I'm interested in you.
	Why do you believe what you believe?
	Let's talk through a couple of these things.
	Instead, you set it all up.
	And the curiosity I had, was it set up as a kind of an internet debate roundtable to get sparks and to bring on views?
	I don't know what the premise of it was.
	I'm not the producer and I haven't really studied it.
	But this could have been done so much better for the benefit of the young man that was sitting there.
	So I could have understood.
	Yeah, I have a different opinion.
	I mean, what did he do most of his career?
	He did what?
	He was a professor.
	He was a teacher.
	And what kind of people did he deal with?
	Exactly like that kid.
	Think about what he taught.
	He dealt with kids like that.
	And he's probably sitting in a profile on this kid and is like, dude, what are you talking about?
	You know how many tens of thousands of conversations I've had with someone like you?
	However, if you got a position, take the position.
	Rob, is this another one clip that happened from the same episode?
	Yeah, from the same Jewish people.
	Okay, let's watch this one here.
	God?
	What do you mean?
	Can you go back a little bit?
	We didn't hear the first part.
	Yeah.
	Do you believe in the all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good notion of God?
	What do you mean by believe?
	Do you think it to be true?
	That's the circular definition.
	What do you mean by believe?
	How is that circular?
	Because you added no content to the answer by substituting the word true and believe.
	I said, you think it to be true.
	All right.
	So if you believe something, you stake your life on it.
	What do you mean by that?
	You live for it and you die for it.
	Okay.
	So you're saying that you don't believe something if you wouldn't die for it?
	Not really, no.
	Okay.
	So that's.
	How would you define belief?
	Something you say?
	I could believe it is the case that this pen exists, but if someone threatened my life, I would lie in order to be able to save my life, right?
	Like I think you would do that too.
	You wouldn't lie to save your life.
	I'd be so sure.
	You wouldn't lie to save your life?
	How much do you know about me?
	I didn't lie to save my career.
	I didn't lie to save my clinical practice.
	Would you lie to save your children, your mom, your dad?
	I don't think lying would save them.
	Can there ever be a circumstance logically that lying could save somebody?
	Yeah, and if you're steeped in sin, you're likely to live in circumstances like that.
	I'll give you an example.
	If you're in Nazi Germany and it is the case that there's like Jewish people in your attic and you're trying to protect them, would you lie to like the Nazis?
	I would have done everything I bloody well could so I wouldn't be in that situation to begin with.
	It's a hypothetical and it's not a problem.
	No, I can't answer a hypothetical like that because it's far.
	Don't play games.
	I don't think I'm just saying that.
	I just told you I would do everything that I could to make sure that I'm never in that situation.
	By the time you've got there, you've made so many mistakes that there's nothing you can do that isn't a sin.
	Being born in Nazi Germany and trying to protect people that you care about, like there could be a Jewish friend that you have and you want to protect them.
	I think you should have them.
	But like, again, you're not answering this hypothetical because you know it shows that you clearly would lie to save yourself.
	I'm answering it in the world.
	And you don't find acceptable.
	Obviously, because I care about truth.
	I wouldn't be in that scenario.
	Obviously, right?
	Logically, because that's already happened.
	Like, that's in the past.
	You don't have a time to travel device.
	I don't get the argument.
	So wait a minute.
	The kid is making a point, Pat, by saying, let's say you were a German person in Germany during Nazi Germany and you're harboring a Jewish family to save them.
	That's a very hypothetical.
	But Jordan Peterson's argument is, I would never have put myself in that situation.
	No, he's missing the point completely.
	He's saying, what if you were that German family?
	It doesn't make he's not making any sense in that argument.
	Tom, did you understand the argument he was making?
	Yeah, what the kid was trying to do was basically called the sin entrapment.
	And he's trying to get him to admit that he would lie.
	And he's, oh, so lying is a sin.
	So you have to lie to do this or that.
	Whereas you're talking about being faced with great evil.
	And if you read in the Old Testament, there is an example of a woman who lied to Pharaoh's hitmen and sent them off in the wrong direction so that other people could proceed on God's mission over here.
	And so would I have lied about people being in the attic?
	Yeah, you have Schindler and you have Anne Frank and you have all the stories of everything and what happened over there.
	And the kid was, I feel like trying to put this in a corner, but then Jordan Peterson was almost kind of losing his composure and losing his patience.
	And I kind of agree with what you said a few minutes ago, Pat.
	It's like I have you, you are example number six.
	And I have seen so many of you kids who are example number six, and I'm not even going to listen to it.
	No, you know what?
	You know what?
	There's a great verse in the Bible, and it says how Jesus put his hand on a man and it said, Jesus sighed because he was tired.
	But you know what he did that day?
	He still did what he was intended to do and he healed the guy.
	But it said he sighed.
	And you could just see him going, be healed.
	It means he was tired and there's a lot going on in life.
	And what I think is going on there, it appeared that Jordan Peterson was out of patience.
	He kind of lost his composure a little bit.
	And at a time where you really need to call on the peace of God so that you can present these things to people who are doubters and see if you can win, you know, not win a point.
	It's not about winning or losing, but maybe bring them to a level of understanding or bring something forward to them because they came in armed to kind of point you in one or two directions.
	And guess what?
	That's fine.
	Adam, your thoughts.
	So, you know, Jordan Peterson, this moral question of whether you should lie to save a life, whether you're in Nazi Germany or whether you're in modern-day America, preserving life and saving a life overrides all other perceived sins by far.
	So to me, it's not even a question.
	Yes, you lie, cheat, and steal to save your kid's life, to save your wife's life, to save your own life.
	It's a non-starter for me.
	Yes, you lie in that case, just like Oscar Schindler lied thousands of times to save thousands of lives.
	It's a non-question to me.
	As far as what Jordan Peterson is doing, I don't know if this is a good look for him or a bad look.
	I think it's an obvious bad look for someone who's basically made a name for himself over decades to basically be dismantled by a group of young, pompous, freaking atheists.
	Cool.
	But then on the bright side, there's going to be an entire new audience of teenagers and 20-somethings who go, who is this guy, Jordan Peterson?
	And they're going to find out about his books and they're going to find about his speeches.
	They're going to find out about what he believes.
	So he almost needs to, in my humble opinion, reinvent himself for the modern Gen Z culture.
	Because everyone who is in their 30s and above has heard of Jordan Peterson in my perception.
	So Jordan is a very smart, but also emotional man.
	I've seen him cry on camera too many times to mention.
	PBD, I know you've had an experience with this.
	So I don't know what he's dealing with right now, but he's one of the greats.
	Is one of the goats, especially in the modern internet podcast culture.
	And I wish him the best.
	But the question was, Adam, twice.
	And yes, these are atheists.
	And number one, you know what you're getting into.
	You don't go to a wedgie contest and then you're going to wedgie and you're like, what the hell's going on?
	He's going to a debate with atheists.
	And if you're going to claim you're a Christian, he'll say things like, I act as if God exists.
	I'm afraid he might exist.
	That's not a confession of faith.
	That's a hedge bet.
	And I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a preacher guy.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm not talking the talk.
	I'm walking the walk and I'm trying to live that life and I'm trying to be a better person.
	If you're going to be that guy, say it.
	Admit it.
	Okay?
	I'm a Christian and that's it, Tom.
	There's no if-ands or what's about it.
	I'm not as knowledged as you.
	I'm not as smart and philosophical as Jordan Peterson.
	But Adam, this isn't a sideline thing, but when it comes to Christ, you're either all in if you believe in him and you are a Christian, either you're all in or you're not.
	There's none of this.
	Oh, well, these people, I'm going to hang out with them.
	I'm going to be over here.
	No, I don't, it's not it, Pat.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, no, to me, he looks upset.
	He looks agitated.
	He looks annoyed.
	And by the way, it happens to many of us when you're sitting in a place like that.
	And, you know, you're not going to be a robot.
	You know, even when Trump was asking the question, saying, hey, so what are you going to be doing if Putin doesn't listen?
	You think I'm going to tell you?
	You think I'm going to tell you fake news?
	You know, nobody hears a machine and a robot.
	However, in a situation like that, when you're sitting with someone in your mind trying to debate an atheist, like, I don't know how long it's going to take for this guy to realize it because typically a faith is a experience of life, some things happening to you and going through a journey.
	I mean, you saw a story recently that talks about Joe Rogan's been going to church.
	Beautiful.
	I mean, Joe Rogan's been going to church.
	Yeah, Joe Rogan's been going to church.
	I think this happened after Wes Huff, you were telling me yesterday with ex-atheist.
	Joe Rogan makes major life changes after revelations on podcast sparks, resurgence of Christianity.
	How did that happen?
	Did that happen accidentally?
	Did that happen to a 22-year-old man?
	You think Joe's had a lot of deep conversations with a lot of powerful people around the world and met a lot of weird people?
	You think the best podcast Joe Rogan's ever done are the podcasts that you've seen on Spotify or Apple or YouTube?
	No, the best podcast Joe Rogan's ever done were never recorded, were never televised, were never put on an outfit.
	You don't think he's had enough people that are on the atheist side try to convince him otherwise?
	Why is he not looking at it at this age?
	He's had the most money he's ever had.
	It's not like he is, you know, going through something.
	He's famous.
	He's got money.
	He's family.
	Everything's good.
	And you're going through that.
	So this process of a person thinking they know it all when they're 23 years old, coming out of college, getting a tattoo that says whatever on it with a little, you know, I don't know if you saw that little fatty that had a tattoo there.
	You know, you see these types of things that happen.
	And then you're like, you know what?
	One day I'm going to grow out of it.
	I never forget.
	I'm at my army unit.
	I'm there at the tattoo shop about to get a tattoo of a Cobra on my chest.
	Yes.
	And I'm like, man, I want to get this Cobra.
	Why do you want to get a Cobra?
	Because my unit at 228 Ford Jackson was called the Cobras.
	And it's like, it's going to cost you $200.
	I'm like, dude, I only got 80.
	I can't do it.
	You realize if I had an additional $120, I would have had a Cobra tattoo on my chest.
	That would have been sick, Pat.
	That would have not been sick.
	I would have been sitting here explaining to myself why I want to slither that jealousy.
	You know what the moral of the story is?
	When you're young, you do some dumb shit and you think you know it all.
	And sometimes it takes life to really beat the living crap out of you to grow up and say, maybe I got to start looking at some of this stuff.
	Maybe you have to realize that, you know, how did this kid happen?
	This is a full-on miracle.
	Go watch a couple deliveries and see what takes place and what God does.
	Go through life and experience some of the things.
	You realize, maybe I don't know it all, man.
	Maybe this whole thing about, you know, the only thing I know is that I know nothing, like the more you're growing up.
	I think Socrates said that on his deathbed, if I'm not mistaken, we're all learning.
	We're all getting better, just like these 20 people, as well as Jordan Peterson.
	He's also going through it as well.
	And, you know, who knows what he's going through.
	But this definitely, when you do something like this, I don't know if losing your cool.
	By the way, you know how simple this could be?
	We had a rule in our office.
	Say you're giving a speech today to 50 people that are coming to us to do business with us.
	Say Adam's giving a speech.
	You know what the rule was?
	Whoever is the speaker that's speaking to guests and clients today, no one go tell him bad news before he hits the stage.
	We had a basic rule.
	Like, let's just say something very bad happened.
	It's like, don't go.
	Why'd you give him bad news?
	Yeah, it ruins the life.
	And then he gets on stage and he's pissed off.
	Something bad could have happened literally 30 minutes before he went in there.
	You pissed him off and mom called him, wife called him, somebody called him and he got pissed off going in there like, you know what?
	What the fuck, Rosa?
	And then he puts it on those people.
	No one knows.
	Anyways, you're professional.
	You should be above it.
	Let's move to the next story.
	I think, Adam, you were going to ask something?
	I just want to get, I know we'll go real quick, but one of the greatest things PBD has ever done to me is say, Adam, get closer to God.
	And whatever religion you are, you know, I love what you say about, you know, getting married is hard.
	Not getting married is riskier is harder.
	Not having kids is risky.
	Not having kids is riskier.
	Not following God is risky.
	Not believing in God is riskier.
	My question is this, because I've moved in this direction.
	I've seen Vinny move in this direction.
	And I know Tom has changed lives.
	For followers of Christ, my question is this.
	Remember when I went to the Jerusalem and I went to the Armenian church and I sent you those videos and I got you the gifts from Jerusalem, from the Armenian church?
	It had me thinking.
	I said, man, like, all right, what's the difference between the Armenian church and the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox?
	And, you know, I went to high school in Miami and it was a Presbyterian high school.
	And then I have friends who are Mormon and Protestant, Evangelical, Lutheran, Methodist, Anglican.
	These are just the names I'm thinking of.
	Jehovah's Witness in Egypt, there's Coptic Christians, Anglican Baptists.
	Isn't it all just you have to be a follower of Christ if you're a Christian?
	Why are there so many different sects to Christianity?
	You're asking me?
	I'm asking just a general question is maybe Jordan Peterson isn't a quote-unquote Christian.
	He's just a believer in God.
	So that's my question to the group.
	What's the difference with all these religions?
	And does it have to be partitioned into all these different segments?
	Aren't you just supposed to be a follower of Christ?
	Isn't that the whole conversation?
	I think now you're going to, you know, we believe the baptism is underwater.
	We believe it's with the drop of the water.
	No, we believe it's this.
	And it's these, you know, changes that they make on small things that they add.
	Some of them have more rituals than others.
	And there's a very much of a high retention rate to a organization that causes their members to have rituals versus those who don't.
	Because if it's rituals, you're thinking about it more than another faith is thinking about it.
	So the other faith that's not thinking about it.
	The other sect that's not thinking about it as much.
	They're not as disciplined.
	And if you notice, Muslims, you know, no matter what's going on, they're praying.
	Some of them are praying.
	God knows how many times a day that forces you to be more disciplined, to be thinking about your God, to be thinking about your faith.
	So that's a whole different topic.
	That's a two, three hour podcast that I don't think.
	I understand that.
	Yeah, I don't think it's something we need to get into.
	But I think.
	And I get that.
	But maybe that's what Jordan Peterson was thinking is don't define me by a specific.
	I get that.
	But if you're sitting with that audience, if you're sitting with that audience, you have to sit there and like, let's just say, if I sat down and there's 20 of the guys and we're talking business.
	Well, you know, capitalism, all they care about is this.
	Have you ever started a business?
	I have.
	How many employees do you have?
	Tell me something.
	Who has ever quit on you, stolen from you?
	Nobody ever.
	You haven't ever built a business yet.
	You're small.
	So you're kind of going through that moment of conversation versus who do you have a job?
	Yes.
	Who pays you?
	Boom.
	What company is it?
	Boom.
	Who was the founder?
	You think they lost.
	Let's go look them up right now.
	You think that person went through a divorce?
	You think that person went through some challenges?
	I think it's got to be that giving the perspective versus automatically jumping to conclusion, losing patience to not allow them to be sitting there saying, wow, you know what?
	I like the way he handled me that he got me to think about it.
	You know, it's like that one video.
	What is that one video we show where this man keeps going to this man that's talking about Jesus loves you?
	Shut the fucks up.
	Have you guys ever seen this?
	With the black guy?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Home is going to go like, I think, did we show this on the podcast a couple weeks ago?
	I don't know.
	Rob, did we show this on the podcast?
	Oh, my God.
	You have to see this thing.
	Oh, I don't, I almost don't want to even show it because he's disrespecting him the entire time.
	Does he use some choice words, Vinny?
	I think he used some choice words.
	He does a couple, but they might have bleeped it on help.
	But look, so yeah, it's a and then all of a sudden you see he asks them, hey man, can I just pray for you?
	Pray for you.
	Can I just pray for you?
	You mind if I pray for you?
	Let me pray for you.
	And it's silent.
	And then eventually the white man is probably in his mid-50s, the mid-40s.
	I don't know how old he is.
	He looks a little bit younger.
	You showed me this clip.
	If you can't find it, maybe Humberto's texting us saying that he found it.
	Let me see if that's the one that he's texting.
	No.
	If you find it, we'll show it.
	You texted to me somewhere, but it was great.
	Anyways, the moral of the story is: at the end of it, the guy says, Can I just pray for you?
	And he says, You know what?
	I appreciate that.
	No one's, I appreciate the fact that he just dropped a prayer for me.
	It was a great exercise.
	Anyways, okay, if you find it, we'll show it.
	If not, I'm going to move on to the next story.
	Next story here is George Floyd.
	So very, very interesting.
	Another Target boycott called this Sunday to honor George Floyd in a prayerful protest.
	Reverend Dr. Jamal Bryan announced a national Target boycott on May 25th to honor the fifth anniversary of George Floyd's murder, leading to a nine-minute 29-second prayer gathering at Convey Conyers, Georgia Target, stating his national act of unity through faith.
	20 other faith leaders will hold similar protests at Target stores across multiple states, following Target's rollback DI program.
	Rob, is this a clip?
	Before you clip it, let me give some stats here to everybody that's watching this.
	Target has faced declining sales with a 3.1% revenue drop in Q4 and a 2.8% decline in Q1 of 2025, driven by a 6% fall in comparable stores sales with a 4.8% decrease in store visits per placer.ai, Brian's TargetFast.org, claiming 200,000 supporters, demanding Target reinstate $2 billion in black-owned product purchases and fully restored DEI.
	As he told CNN, we're not going to spend our dollars where we're not honored.
	Rob, go ahead and play this clip.
	Jesus, we have a victory.
	Yeah, it reflects America moving backwards away from equality for all people.
	Five years ago, the CEO.
	I'm not trying to be funny.
	Is that R. Kelly?
	Rob is one of his employees and with no pressure made a pledge of truth.
	That doesn't look like R. Kelly.
	I'm not seeing mega.
	You remind me.
	To give your name the glory.
	God, keep us on target.
	It was very important to me.
	The pastor declared he had a vision to what was supposed to take place.
	That vision didn't happen.
	We stand on business.
	We stand on God's promise.
	We stand on the word.
	We're not going back.
	We're going forward.
	We are like the number one consumer suspender.
	I myself fall in that category.
	You can pause that one there, Rob.
	Tom, your thoughts on this?
	I honestly, but listen, I'm not trying to be offensive.
	I thought it was R. Kelly for a second.
	He got out.
	I thought he was doing time.
	Apparently, it's a pastor.
	God bless you.
	Go ahead, Tom.
	Yeah, you remind me of R. Kelly.
	Go ahead.
	So I'll start with Target, and I'll make that short and sweet.
	They managed this horribly from DEI to George Floyd.
	And then they had all the conservative people mad because they had all these.
	Remember the trans wear for small children, the bathing suits that were girls' bathing suits for boys that featured a pouch for tucking, all that stuff that flipped out the conservative in the family audience because that stuff was there.
	And they said, we're boycotting you.
	And they went the other way in DEI.
	And then when they walked back to EI, all the people in favor of the EI came back and said, now we're upset with you and we're boycotting you.
	So bad management and bowing to public pressure and things like that puts you in a bad place.
	That's Target.
	Now I'm going to talk about the people gathering together there.
	I think it was beautiful that they gathered together peacefully.
	I think it was beautiful that they're using freedom of speech to make their point.
	I think it was beautiful that they had their pastor there.
	Now, you know, you can't criticize one group's boycott and holding prayer service and then condemn another group's boycott and holding a prayer service, right?
	Even though they may be a little different.
	And I think what this comes out is we need a national act of unity on parenting.
	We need a national act of unity on communities living together without artificial things like DEI trying to force issues.
	And I know people are going to say, well, you're a white guy.
	You could say that.
	No, no, I can say that.
	I can say it would be better in America if we all came together in a spirit of unity and starting with churches and, you know, I think would be a great place to start that.
	And I think Target, you know, really blew it, you know, bowing to one side or the other.
	And these people are getting together and they're standing for their side peacefully, freedom of speech.
	I didn't see anything crazy there.
	And so they're boycotting and other people are boycotting.
	Our national unity needs to be to go upstream and get to the root causes.
	What was going on with George Floyd?
	What was going on with Fentanyl?
	What was going on with men without fathers?
	These are the things that we need to come together and find unity because in our diversity of thought, we will find unity of purpose in wanting to make things better and raise better citizens along the way.
	Adam, your thoughts.
	So the conversation that we need to have, especially for my friends in the black community, is the conversation around the hero-making machine, which you've touched on timeless times, PBD.
	George Floyd was not a hero.
	He was not a legend.
	He was not a champion of any particular cause, especially any cause that affects the black community.
	What he was is a poster child for perceived victimhood or perceived police brutality.
	My hope and prayer for my friends in the black community is stop perpetuating the same two or three career paths as the heroes.
	The black community will succeed, in my opinion, when they do this.
	Stop putting athletes, ballers, and rappers as the people to look up to in life.
	When you start putting people like businessmen, thinkers, doctors, physicists, lawyers, Teachers.
	Anyone who's actually got a degree and done something with their life or started a business and has improved the community, that is the time that you'll see your community succeed.
	I want nothing in life more than as American to see people who have been wronged in the past to basically rise up and be the greatest they can possibly be.
	That includes having more black fathers in the home.
	I have a lot of black friends, a lot of black people that are amazing friends of mine.
	I want nothing more than them to see them succeed.
	And then we'll start with the father in the home and the hero-making machine being elevated to a better extent.
	By the way, this is a mayor.
	Rob, is this the funeral?
	Is this the five-year?
	This is the funeral of George Floyd.
	This is not the five-year.
	This is the funeral where he breaks down and cries.
	Where he breaks down and cry.
	I mean, it's a spectacle.
	It's what it is.
	It's not necessarily anything that the mayor is crying with his mask on.
	Yeah, so Vinny, what are your thoughts on the story here with Target?
	I don't know.
	To be honest with you, I don't have a crazy opinion of it.
	It's just the whole situation.
	I've said this how many times.
	You would never have heard George.
	None of us in this room or the entire world, no BLM, no nothing.
	None of it happens if George Floyd wasn't a piece of crap as a human being for all the stuff that he did.
	Robbing people's houses with a bunch of guys with a pregnant woman, holding a gun to her, doing all this stuff, high on drugs, trying to pass a fake 20 at that place.
	He never would have met Derek Chauvin if he wasn't a piece of, you know what?
	That's at the end of the day.
	Be a good person.
	And again, Adam, you nailed it too.
	It starts at the home.
	It starts with freaking being raised the right way.
	Even though society promotes that single mother, you could do it all by yourself and all that nonsense and trying to destroy the nuclear family.
	It's all on purpose.
	It's trying to make everybody reliable on the freaking government.
	And you want to talk about murders?
	Tom, what's the number one murderer of black people?
	And you've talked about this before and you brought her name up.
	Who started the whole thing?
	Oh, you want to go?
	You're going to go.
	Just really quick, please.
	Planned parenthood?
	Planned parenthood.
	Yep.
	How many children?
	How many black children does that thing freaking murder every single year?
	It's never been greater than 16.
	The African-American community has not crossed, to my memory, 16% of the population, but it consistently rides at 40 to 42% of the annual abortions.
	Let that sink into everybody.
	So when people want me to cry and bend the knee and burn the entire country down because of one scumbag who was high on drugs, I'm not buying it.
	But listen, this message is brought to you guys by Trojan Condoms.
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	Because, you know, even last minute when you get excited, you still got to find one.
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	You got to go protect yourself because we got to lower that 42% to 16%, 13%.
	Okay, let's go to a real story.
	Guys, I mean, you know, we all fight.
	We all have issues with our spouses and things happen.
	But I swear to God, if your wife smacked you upside the head the way Macron's husband and Macron's wife hit him, this is inappropriate.
	And if he's watching this, this is very inappropriate.
	You don't behave like this.
	Oh, my God.
	When the world is watching, watch this here.
	Watch this, see what happened.
	The best part about this is how many people have made spoofs of this with blonde hair, with wigs being thrown, all this other stuff.
	Rob, go ahead and watch this clip.
	Watch this clip here.
	Go for it.
	Oh, hey, everybody.
	Oh, is this slow motion?
	Is it slow motion?
	Wait, you opened the door too early.
	Oh, two hands.
	Hi, everybody.
	Hey, what you doing?
	Look, he's rubbing his face.
	And then look at this.
	Does he walk?
	Does she walk?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Look at those shoulders, bro.
	Look at that guy.
	Look at this guy.
	Look at this guy.
	Bro.
	If I was Macron, I would have kicked him in the nut.
	What was that, though?
	What do you think happened there, Vinny?
	I just.
	Do you think it's just a fight between a couple?
	You think that's all that was?
	Like, what happened there?
	I mean, what did they say, Rob?
	What has been said, the feedback on what happened there?
	Well, what they said, Macron brushed it off, and he said that he was joking around with his wife.
	And he said people were overreacting, calling it geoplanetary catastrophe.
	And by the way, his team claimed initially that the video was fake.
	Did you guys know that?
	Just like CNN with deep fakes with Joe Biden falling over the place, but then he admitted it was real but harmless.
	And Brigitte didn't take his arm after, like you guys saw, walking all stiff.
	But I mean, guys, let's just remember: are you going to believe anything that these people say?
	Be honest with yourself.
	Because if allegedly all the reports, especially with everything that we've heard, which has ruined them, they met when he was 15 and she was 40 years old.
	Okay.
	I think that she has been abusing him his entire freaking life since he was underage and a freaking child.
	And could you imagine being exposed as much as they've been exposed?
	I mean, it's bad.
	What kind of conversations are I having there?
	You know what he, she is saying?
	How, I'm, I'm assuming, how dare you, you let people like Candace Owens get this to a point where she, he, she, he, you know what I'm talking about, can't even walk around because you know, guys, put yourself in Shim's feet and shoes for high heels or sneakers when they're at the house.
	Everybody's looking at them in France, and the talk of the town is that that is a man.
	That is the talk of the town.
	So, could you imagine the conversations that Brigitte is saying, saying, Emmanuel, you're the president.
	You couldn't have paid more.
	You couldn't have offered more or done more to shut up these voices for what's happening.
	Do you have any opinions on this?
	I don't want to spend a lot of time on this.
	I just know.
	No, it's just my last word.
	It's a bad look.
	It's a bad.
	It was a bad look, and it's poorly explained.
	Who's ever done that, Pat?
	Yeah, Adam, you seem like you have a lot of opinions on this.
	Yeah.
	Strong opinions.
	Strong shoulders.
	It encapsulates what France is at this point.
	It's a young French dude getting dominated by a alleged transgender ideological dude.
	Exactly.
	So any real man would not play this game.
	A real, like, we all been in relationships.
	You get in arguments.
	So put your hands on your husband's face to slap him around.
	And he's like, hey, hello, hello.
	It just, it encapsulates exactly not only what's going on in that relationship, but in that country.
	If you're telling me that someone's together, there's a 25-year age difference.
	I'll say, okay, how much older is he than her?
	No, He's the younger guy.
	What?
	It makes completely no sense to me.
	But this is what the French people elected.
	Would you have respected him more if he slapped back?
	Would you have liked it?
	Like, let's just say the same thing happens.
	He hits, what's her name?
	Brigitte hits him, and then you see him backhanding Brigitte.
	Would you have respected him more if he swung back?
	1,000%?
	Yeah.
	First of all, I wouldn't want to have seen that, but I'm waiting for the memes.
	What if it's kind of like...
	You always do the last line before we get off the plane.
	Yeah.
	We'll not be...
	I mean, seriously, that's serious.
	So let's just change it for a second.
	Look, many years ago, Dana White had an incident.
	Dana White had an incident at a bar on December 31st, whatever it was, New Year's Eve.
	I don't know if you remember that.
	Of course.
	He even reacted to it.
	But then it was bam-bam.
	Quick.
	Right?
	It was bam-bam.
	It's like one-one.
	Yeah.
	Would you have respected Macron more if he swung back?
	Yes.
	Because I believe that that's a dude.
	So, guess what?
	If two fellas want to get it, Rob, I'm just saying.
	I'm saying, yes, especially if, which I believe in my heart of hearts, that that's a dude.
	I'll punch him back, dog.
	Like, yo, homie.
	No, but that's not the same thing.
	I let you eat the last cookie before we go.
	Let's just say, let's just say if it is a lady, let's say if it is.
	It's a strong-shouldered lady, but let's just say if it is a lady, if it is a lady, would you have said, okay, he at least protected himself?
	Or no, he shouldn't put hands on her.
	To block it, I would have definitely blocked it.
	But I mean, punching her, it's not even a fair fight because even if you're dude, you're blocking constrained.
	You don't, yeah, you don't cold cock a woman.
	You're blocking constrained.
	All right.
	Men are bigger, stronger.
	But if you knew, but if you knew that Brigitte is a man, Pat, I'm doing like an elbow off the top rope.
	I'm done.
	I'm shoulder dropping.
	I'm doing dental work.
	I'm telling you.
	We got a little out of control here.
	It was just an innocent question.
	I was trying to see what's going on.
	The answer is no.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Lester John Connery.
	All right.
	Sounds good.
	Well, listen, I don't know.
	I don't know what I'll say what you said.
	Give a woman a little bit.
	Let me go to this Ron DeSantis story.
	Where's this Ron DeSantis story?
	It says page six, but I'm on six and I don't see it.
	Is it seven?
	Rob, can you tell me where the Ron DeSantis story is?
	I do not see it on page six.
	Oh, okay.
	Let me go.
	Page five, it is.
	Okay.
	So Ron DeSantis seemingly met with You Suck Chance at Florida's WWE event newsweek at WWE.
	I don't know if this Saturday night main event at Tampa's Yongling Center.
	Florida Governor Ron DeSantis faced apparent crowd hostility with a viral video promoting an ex-user to pose.
	Governor Sanders showed up and the crowd started booing him and chanting, You Suck.
	There's no way that's him.
	Go ahead and play this, Rob.
	No.
	No, that's not Rob.
	There's no way.
	What was happening prior to that?
	There's no way he walked in and they booed him, you suck.
	Are you guys following Tom?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Or what was happening in the ring?
	I want a wide shot of the whole arena.
	What was going on there?
	I mean, was this a like when things like this happen?
	I've heard that at wrestling or boxing events, Pat, where an undercard, or it's a split decision, and the you suck, that's meant for the refs.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	I want to see the wide shot of the arena.
	What else was going on there?
	Is this really reacting to the walk-in by Ron DeSantis, or is there something else going on?
	Rob, what's this?
	This is a different angle.
	Yeah, this is a different angle.
	And you can see the ring.
	It doesn't look like there's any action happening inside the ring at the time.
	And when you watch, you can see the TV guys are going towards Ron DeSantis.
	They want to do that if there's a match going on inside the ring.
	Let me see it.
	You suck!
	I mean, but it is a wrestling crop.
	I hadn't seen this angle before.
	I'd only seen the isolation.
	Listen, maybe it's the audience trying to christen him into the whole, yeah, we're wrestling and we're you suck.
	Like, I don't know.
	Rob, go to ChatGPT and ask the question: Were fans booing Ron DeSantis when he walked into the WWE arena?
	Let's see, because I'm sure this has been asked so many times by different people.
	I'm sure they have the data on it.
	Let's see what they say.
	Yeah, screaming, you suck when he walked into the arena.
	No, no, you have to put you suck because can you just stop that search and just add the you suck to it?
	The key word is you suck.
	I don't want to keep saying that phrase, but I just like if you can yelling, you suck.
	Yeah, there you go.
	You suck.
	Yeah, there you go.
	All right, let's see this here.
	See what our friends at Chad GBT will say about this event taking place.
	Yes.
	Oh, shit.
	I'm trying to give him grace here during WWE's Saturday mainline.
	The youngling center, Florida Gameran, met with booze and chance of you suck from the crowd as the appear ringside with his children.
	The reception was notably hostile with attendees making their disapproval clear.
	This incident as to a pattern of right-wing figures receiving negative reactions at WWE events.
	For instance, Hawk Hogan was similarly booted over again on Monday night, Ron January, despite WWE.
	Got it.
	Well, I don't know about that, but yeah, the biggest awkward thing, Adam, here for me, and I'll come to you, is the following: is you know how in life there's levels, there's levels to any game you play.
	There's levels to being good with girls, there's levels to being good with playing poker, there's levels to being good at backgammon, there's levels to have a knowledge on cigars, there's levels to being a bodybuilder, there's levels to wealth, there's levels to fame.
	Okay, it's such a bad look to walk into an arena thinking he's going to get the reaction that Trump did.
	It's just a bad look because you are not Trump.
	Okay.
	You're just not.
	And the more you try to do that, if you ever read the book 40 Laws of Power or 33 Strategies of War, or if you read The Prince, like, I don't know if he's ever read these books.
	He needs to go read these books for the next three months, take time off and just read like 20 of these books I would recommend you to go through.
	You don't try to come and shine while the greatest promoter of all time as a president is in the White House right now.
	You think you're going to get the same reaction as him?
	It's a very, very bad look, in my opinion.
	I was trying to give grace thinking there's no way in the world that happened.
	It was two other wrestlers in there until Rob, who apparently is an anti-DeSantis guy.
	I didn't even know that, jumps in.
	But Adam, your thoughts on this?
	I think we got it all wrong here, guys.
	I mean, we all remember when they were all shouting, F Joe Biden, and they interpreted it as, let's go, Brandon.
	So, in my humble opinion, at this wrestling match, which I think Logan Paul was wrestling, I want to say, they were saying, you're up, not you suck.
	They wanted the great governor Ron DeSantis of Florida to wrestle Logan Paul.
	They said, you're up, you're up, you're up.
	They wanted him to be a fighter, not a bootlicker.
	And they wanted him to get in the ring and not be the hero.
	Okay, Tom, your thoughts on this because Adam's being silly right now.
	I was actually asking you sincere.
	You know what?
	I'm going to follow up on the side.
	Tell me.
	I'm going to ignore the last 42 seconds Hit ever happened in world history, and I'm going to go to your point.
	And your point is clear.
	How many times have we seen Pat, like businesses come to Bet David Consulting or they come to the vault and they say, Hey, my competitor did this.
	Should I do this?
	And we always ask them, Why do you want to do that?
	Is that their positioning?
	Is that your positioning?
	Are you showing your difference?
	Are you showing their difference?
	Are you trying to have your next innovative campaign and do something?
	Copycatting rarely works, whether it's commercials, whether it's political stunts, it rarely works.
	You've seen situations where they tried to copy.
	I remember when Al Gore in 2000, this goes back 24 years ago, 25 years ago.
	I remember when Alan Tipper, who told this big lie that the movie in the book Love Story, Eric Siegel wrote, was based on him and Tipper.
	That's pretty much.
	Where do I begin?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Tell a story of how greater love can be.
	Avoiding the draft because my dad took care of me.
	So it's like.
	That was actually really good.
	Good job, Tom.
	So it's like, yeah, maybe it was about Al Gore.
	Hell, maybe I'm the one that's wrong here.
	So basically, they were doing this kiss at the end of their rallies, and the kiss became bigger.
	And then he started like dipping her, like, you know, the way, you know, the first kiss, you know, you have a first dance with your bride at the dance at your reception.
	You give her a little dip and a kiss, and everybody applauds, and she dances with her dad and all that kind of stuff.
	So you don't run the other guy's playbook if you want to be different.
	You don't run the other guy's copycat playbook anytime in marketing.
	And I think that's what DeSantis just did.
	And that kind of stuff doesn't work.
	Whether they're yelling or not, it's the wrong playbook.
	That would have been, but I will tell you, Tom, I was in a complete different setting.
	And he did come out and he did get that kind of reception.
	Dana Neville never walked out with him, but he was somewhere, comedy or something that was going on that he walked out and he did get that kind of reception.
	You know when it was?
	At the peak of COVID.
	Because at the peak of COVID, people loved the work that he was doing.
	Something happened after the way he handled himself in the 2024 election, trying to be a president that completely took away all the great work he did during COVID.
	Being the best, the greatest governor in all of America, being the standard of how to handle COVID, in my opinion, he crushed it.
	And hopefully he will hire a different marketing team.
	If he hasn't already, who knows?
	Maybe they've been fired 17 times and there's new people coming in left and right that we don't even know about.
	All right, let's continue to the next story here.
	Rob, the next story I want to go to is it's got to do a little bit with Chris Cuomo, what he said recently.
	But maybe I'm going to take a different angle with this.
	So I'm watching this show, you know, and obviously we heard about the tragic event that took place last week with Muslim killing a Christian and a Jew, I believe at the Israeli embassy.
	Originally, they thought they were both going to be Jewish, but they were not.
	One of them was a Christian.
	One of them was Jewish.
	And then Chris Cuomo came out and had some thoughts to share about this.
	Rob, go on and play this clip.
	Go forward.
	Democrats, my brothers and sisters, I understand why you're worried about Trump.
	I understand why you call him an ultimate evil, but I don't agree.
	And if you want the ultimate evil, look at the Islamists, the extreme ones in America, not just Muslims.
	And mind your dogs who are doing their bidding.
	What am I talking about?
	Look online to the reaction.
	Americans calling the terrorist a hero again, saying he, like the healthcare CEO murderer, was justified in violence.
	It's the same thing I've heard in Iraq and Afghanistan, but now echoing from Indiana.
	This is not a one-off.
	It's just one more of what we choose to ignore.
	You remember that Islamist who drove a pickup truck with an ISIS flag attached through Bourbon Street, killing 14 people, injuring dozens and dozens more?
	You know, he's a citizen from Texas, right?
	And we used to see that as an irony, right?
	Wow, from Texas.
	That's like the last place you'd expect a Muslim extremist from, right?
	Wrong.
	Texas is ground zero for what I'm talking about.
	Did you know there's a push to create an Islamic residential development there?
	A thousand homes, K through 12, faith-based school, a mosque, shops, insular community.
	What's wrong with that?
	Everything.
	Here, we assimilate.
	Here, the struggle is to remove the distinctions, the melting of the melting pot.
	That's what we're trying to reduce.
	The religious leader pushing for the project has openly admired the Muslim Brotherhood.
	Who are they?
	I'll tell you.
	Openly defended Hamas's killing of innocent civilians on October 7th.
	The developers initially advertised that the community would limit sales to only persons we believe will contribute to the overall makeup of our community.
	Meaning, who?
	Reports say 75% of the housing fees will go to finance alone.
	So you see Chris going very hard on this right here.
	And it's interesting the position he's taken, but what happened there, okay?
	And then you and I are sitting there watching this one host.
	His name is Malik Maktabi.
	I think originally his family's from Esfahan, Iran.
	He's in Lebanon doing a show that I don't know what the show is called.
	It could be his name, but it's a show where he does some controversial interviews.
	LBC Pat?
	LBCI.
	LBCI.
	LBC International.
	What is LBC?
	Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation International.
	And he's interviewing this young girl.
	Okay.
	If you watch this interview, he's interviewing this young girl.
	And Vinny, I don't know if you've seen this or not.
	He's interviewing this young girl.
	Rob, I don't know if you have the clip or not.
	It's a young girl he's interviewing who is maybe 13 years old.
	She could be 13 years old.
	And the question comes about about her fiancé that she's married.
	And he's straight up going and asking these tough questions.
	Is this the one, Rob?
	Yeah, there's another one.
	Zoom-a-lit one.
	Okay.
	Can I see if this is the one?
	Can you refresh this real quick to see if this is the one?
	Let me see this one.
	Okay, yeah, this is the one.
	Play this clip.
	Okay, watch this, folks.
	Little weird.
	Little weird, but watch this.
	Audio?
	Go for it.
	No.
	Who dropped you out of school?
	My fiance. My fiance. My fiance. My fiance. My fiance.
	I don't want to let her lose.
	How old are you?
	I'm 10 years old.
	She's 25 years old.
	He's 25 years old.
	She's 10 years old.
	And by the way, just so you guys know, the interviewer, Rob, just so everybody knows it, this is what makes it very interesting.
	The interviewer, if you go look up who he is, Rob, Malik Maktabi.
	Can you ask what religion is Malik Maktabi?
	Okay.
	No, Rob, you just fully butchered the last name.
	It's M-A-K-T-A-B-I, M-A-K-T-A-B-I.
	What religion is he?
	Just go to his Wikipedia.
	Go to his Wikipedia, if you could.
	Zoom out a little bit.
	Okay, so zoom out a little bit.
	Zoom in a little bit so I can read it, Rob.
	Yeah.
	So Beirut is a television presenter known for his show Amir Bill Khat Al-Rid, Red and Bullface.
	And if you go through reading about him, he is himself, I believe, a Muslim interview on these things.
	So you're hearing what, you know, Chris is saying: hey, we can.
	This cannot happen in America.
	This cannot happen over here.
	That cannot happen over here.
	Vinny, what is your thoughts when you're hearing Chris?
	You know, we're watching this clip, a 10-year-old fiancé, 25 years old in Lebanon.
	You know, these are very strange stories when you hear about it.
	What's your position with this?
	First of all, I am beyond uncomfortable about that.
	I sent Rob another one, Pat, an updated, like a newer one version of a girl and her age.
	I think that's that's just that's Adam.
	Adam, you're rustling your papers.
	Um, I just sent one, Adam, about a 13-year-old girl.
	Her name is We Am, 13-year-old, and they with a 29-year-old.
	And they asked, she said, The girl, she can't say no, it's against her culture.
	Rob, you sent the one that I just sent you.
	That's it, Rob.
	Pat, look at this poor girl.
	Yeah, I saw this.
	Look at her.
	Oh, that drives me crazy.
	Same show.
	Same show.
	What annoys you the most?
	I didn't finish my studies.
	She's 13 years old.
	Pull him out of school for a reason.
	Look at her.
	Look at her.
	Life ruined.
	Right?
	What do you want to do with that guy?
	I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
	You can pass.
	Yeah, pause it.
	Okay, and here's my thing.
	And I'm that actually makes it hard for me to talk.
	But, and I want people to understand this.
	This isn't, all Muslims are bad people.
	And I know a lot of people out there are going to, I'm going to get the messages and I can give a shit.
	Okay.
	But Islam as an ideology is rooted in original texts and traditions that include extreme conditions, especially to women and children.
	Okay.
	We're not talking about people.
	We're talking about the foundation.
	All right.
	Anytime I criticize another country's leader or government, automatically I get a blanket over the entire people.
	Okay.
	But lick it.
	Let's go to the truth.
	Okay.
	And I don't care who you are out there.
	If that doesn't bother you, there's something wrong with you.
	Okay.
	You were, however, you're programmed is wrong.
	Okay.
	And I'm going to go back to Muhammad.
	He married Aisha when she was six.
	Okay.
	Consummated marriage when she was nine.
	Okay.
	Muhammad was in his 50s.
	I do believe, Rob.
	You can fact-check me if I'm wrong.
	That's not fringe.
	That's mainstream Islamic teaching.
	Okay.
	And it's still being justified just today, as you're seeing right there in that freaking video with the girl whose life is destroyed for the rest of her life.
	All right.
	Now, fast forward to this, and we're seeing this where they're ruined.
	She can't say no because it's against her culture.
	Okay.
	And then what you're talking about about these cities and all this stuff, Pat, slowly but surely, that culture is shaped in Sharia law, which is based in the Quran and the Hadiths, H-A-D-I-T-H-S.
	Same text, okay?
	And let's walk through the Sharia law because, guys, at the end of the day, say what you want.
	Look what's happening in Europe.
	Okay?
	Look what's happening.
	Sharia law.
	Child marriage, in many Islamic countries, ready?
	Child marriage is legal.
	You guys are seeing it.
	Iran, Yemen, Afghanistan, parts of Nigeria.
	Why?
	Because the Prophet did.
	That's the defense.
	Okay.
	Under Sharia law, a woman's testimony in court is worth half of a man's.
	All right.
	Marital rape is not recognized as a crime.
	Apostasy leaving Islam is punishable by death.
	Blasphemy against the Prophet Muhammad, you'll get killed.
	Remember who was the guy, Tom, that drew the thing about Muhammad?
	Charlie Hebdo?
	Yep.
	And what happened to that guy?
	Magazine.
	And yeah, homosexuality Punishable by death, and it's like these aren't isolated events anymore.
	It's systemic, it's rooted in doctrine, and it's protected by law and repeated generation after generation.
	So, to answer your question, Pat, that right there drives me insane.
	You know, remember, we talk about and you challenge us a lot, and you always question and you ask, What sword are you willing to die on?
	What hill are you willing to die on?
	That right there drives me insane, it disgusts me, and I'll be damned to hell if any religion or anybody is going to try to come to this country and do that shit and try to change this country and shift it to what that is because that can't happen.
	How do you fight it?
	Because when you watch this clip from 10 years ago, Rob, if you want to play this clip for the audience to see, this is a 10 years ago from UAE Foreign Minister HH Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed warned Europe of what would have happened if they continued down their path of suicidal altruism by inviting dangerous fanatics into their nations.
	They should have listened.
	This is 10 years ago, folks.
	Watch this.
	Go forward.
	And let me say this in English so you can understand what I'm saying.
	I have translation.
	No, I know you have translation, but I just want to make sure you get it right.
	There will come a day that we will see far more radical, extremists, and terrorists coming out of Europe because of lack of decision-making, trying to be politically correct, or assuming that they know the Middle East and they know Islam and they know the others far better than we do.
	And I'm sorry, but that's pure ignorance.
	You watch this, right?
	And then you see Tommy Robinson yesterday.
	He comes out of jail.
	First of all, Tommy Robinson doesn't look like Tommy Robinson.
	It looks like he hasn't shaped for a while.
	Here's Tommy.
	He's out right after being out of prison.
	You see, the prison is right behind him.
	And he's being asked the question: look what he says.
	And this is in UK.
	It was once the financial capital of the world.
	Go ahead, Rob.
	Unfortunately, in a country that doesn't believe in free speech, being a citizen journalist, this place is an occupational hazard.
	It's ridiculous.
	16 years ago, when I first started speaking out against Islamic rape gangs that were plaguing this country, from that point on, I faced relentless attacks from the British state, wielding lawfare as a weapon in order to silence me.
	I have never been convicted by a jury.
	Every one of my convictions have been handed down to me by judges.
	The lucky thing with this, everyone got to see the film.
	I have to say thank you to Elon Musk because without X, if we didn't have X, everyone would just think I lied.
	No one would have got any other narrative.
	Fortunately, I think, what was it, 167 million people saw the truth.
	So that gagging order, these attempts at censorship to silence, to cancel people, it hasn't worked.
	You've attempted to lock up the truth, and that truth has been echoed around the entire globe.
	It couldn't have been any more successful.
	I knew exactly what I was doing when I released.
	And he's running across outside that chair.
	And still, by the way, just got out, Pat, for talking the shit that he went in for.
	And he's still talking it.
	Adam, your thoughts?
	Gangster.
	Well, I only have one person to blame for what's going on in the world right now, and that is white Christian tolerance.
	I'll say that again.
	White Christian tolerance is going to be the death of not only the world, but the potential Christianity.
	What do I mean by that?
	Because if you think that this is just an Israel and radical extremist problem, you're thinking way too small.
	Because they're saying it out loud.
	They're coming after every single major Christian city around the world, starting with London, Paris, Sydney, Toronto, New York, L.A., the list goes on.
	And because of Christian tolerance, they allow it to happen.
	And then you start locking up people who start talking about it.
	Hey, maybe we don't want Islamic rape gangs in our country.
	What?
	You're going to jail.
	So Israel just happens to be on the front lines of this.
	But you know who knows this better than anybody?
	Who are the people that have already banned the Muslim Brotherhood and the radical extremists and jihadists from their country?
	Well, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, Jordan, the list goes on because they know that that radical ideology is bad for society.
	So the last but not least point is this.
	What is going on in America today is downstream from what is happening in Europe already.
	Be very fearful of white, young college kids in Kafiyas.
	They used to say, you know, the classic phrase, if you're young and you're not a liberal, you have no heart.
	And if you're older and if you don't, if you're not a conservative, then you don't have any brain.
	These days, the new phrase is this.
	If you're young in America, you have no brain if you go to college because you end up becoming a woke, progressive, socialist, anti-American, gay for Gaza jihadist.
	That is the new liberal in America.
	And it's up to us to fight it.
	Tom, final thoughts on you.
	You know what?
	I agree with Adam, and I wouldn't racialize it.
	And I'm not saying racism, but he made a racial specific about, you know, white Christian.
	It is basically the lukewarm, if you want to live life as a lukewarm church, you're going to have lukewarm results.
	And in the book of Revelation, there is a list of churches.
	Read the first four chapters that tells you about the churches that get it wrong and the consequences of getting it wrong.
	And right now, you will find places in Africa and places in Asia where missionaries and the word of God is spreading and spreading very rapidly.
	And then you'll find in comfortable Western civilizations.
	So I won't say white because it's more than just white, but I'm amplifying Adam's point and adding my own clarity to it, not denying his point at all, because I think the core of his point is right.
	The lukewarm church is going to get, you can get more, expect more of what you accept.
	And I think that's where it's going now.
	And the lukewarm church, not standing up and saying, this is the kind of community we want and this is what we want is going to live with the consequences.
	And I agree.
	Look at Chris Cuomo, who a lot of people would say, he's no friend of Christian America.
	Wait a minute.
	He's Catholic.
	And he's speaking up from liberal New York with his family and his history.
	And the one thing I agree that Chris said is, is it okay to have an insular Muslim community that will discriminate on housing and will just do the following things?
	Is that okay?
	He goes, no, that's not okay.
	Chris is right.
	And it's up to where are we?
	Where are we standing up?
	And what are we accepting?
	And guess what?
	You can expect more of the consequence of what you accept.
	Yeah.
	PBD, can I ask you a question, PBD?
	Of course.
	And thank you, Tom, for mentioning Chris Cuomo where we started this thing.
	I actually didn't even know we were going to talk about this segment.
	I'm in New York right now.
	I texted Chris Cuomo this weekend.
	Hey, great take.
	Just randomly.
	And he goes, hey, thank you.
	One of your family mottos was tolerance, but you removed it.
	I know we've discussed this, but I feel like it'd be very relevant to ask this question now.
	Why is tolerance no longer some of your family credo?
	Listen, this is how I judge everything.
	It's very simple.
	I'll watch an individual and I'll say, what is that sound, Rob?
	That is police.
	They must be driving by.
	Oh, okay.
	Police team.
	So I'll watch friends of mine, okay, that we're doing business with or during the company.
	And I'll see two guys that are having lunch.
	And say this guy was on the right track.
	He was doing the right thing.
	And I noticed he's hanging out with this person a long time.
	A year he's around them all the time.
	Life gets worse, quits the business, starts drinking, partying hardcore, gets distracted.
	And I realize anytime that person is around anybody, their life gets worse.
	Okay.
	So then you'll look at certain companies, Tom, and you'll judge somebody that's with a company.
	And you'll say, when I'm around that company, I just make better decisions in life.
	When I'm working with that company, they produce better leaders.
	Jack Welch was known as what?
	Producing great executives that everybody wanted to hire.
	Xerox had a reputation of what?
	If you worked at Xerox for five to 10 years, guess what Xerox produces?
	Incredible salespeople.
	If you go through IBM sales system, they produce great salespeople.
	If you worked at Valley Total Fitness, they had an incredible sales system combining with Tom Hopkins and all this other stuff.
	They learn how to sell.
	If you worked in certain companies, you learn how to get better with people, right?
	Look, it's pure results.
	Every community, America was founded on Christianity, okay?
	America, the foundation.
	I'm not telling you it's 100%.
	You know, the debate with Thomas Jefferson, I totally get it.
	We can go there as well.
	But it was their entire constitution is very close.
	What things they use from the Bible, but the main principle was conservative values and principles, Christian conservative values and principles.
	What do they produce and who do they attract?
	How many companies did they build that positively impacts around the world?
	How many people can come here?
	Who lives here?
	Can we attract anybody and everybody that comes here?
	Muslims come here.
	Muslims feel safer here than the Muslim nations because opportunity is better.
	Okay, great.
	So then the argument becomes, all right, if you claim your religion is peaceful, show peace.
	If you claim that you guys produce better product, show what companies you produced.
	Show that if your community goes into a city, it becomes safer, produces jobs, works with other people, does better.
	Show it.
	Show it.
	Listen, a lot of people say a lot of bad things about Scientologists.
	A lot of people say a lot of bad things about Scientologists.
	And it's very easy religion to have a, what do you call it, like a punching bag taking shots at them.
	You know what I know about Scientologists?
	Any Scientologists I've worked with, they work their asses off.
	Okay, they just do.
	They ask very good questions that that whole system they go through.
	And I know this is maybe for some people is going to be weird.
	Analogy.
	They create jobs.
	They create businesses.
	People in that community benefit.
	What city in America known for Scientology?
	Is it Tampa?
	I think that's one of the cities that have clear water.
	Right.
	Guess what?
	There's jobs that are being created.
	If you do good, you do good.
	If you don't, you don't.
	You can go and judge everything with Christians, Jews, Catholic, Muslims, Scientology, Seven-Day, Jehovah's Witness, LDS.
	Go judge them.
	Atheists, agnostic, go judge them.
	What happens to those communities?
	If it produces results, I want more of it.
	You notice a pattern that you go to UK and you destroy UK and you're changing UK in all these cities and you want us to sit in America and be patient and tolerant and not be speculative that what could happen in America?
	No, that's not going to happen here.
	We're going to do our part on if you're coming here, this is America.
	It's the greatest country in the world, and it's a last place.
	If we don't figure this thing out in America, everywhere across the country, you're going to have to get on that place that Elon Musk wants to go to, that's living on another freaking planet to say, they screw this one up.
	Let's at least go to a different planet, see what they're going to be doing with that one.
	No, you got to stay strong with it.
	And again, I have a lot of messages that they sent to me on Manek.
	Can't believe you just said this.
	Show me communities that create jobs, businesses, and it's safe, low crime.
	Show me.
	Show me.
	And then we'll entertain it.
	If not, I'm sorry.
	You have to have a proof of your argument that you have.
	And you have to show that it happens in multiple places.
	Not picking one of the best exceptions to the rule and send this one demo that's 78 people living there, and this is what's going on here.
	No, I'll go to the next one, tell you what's going on.
	So, Iran, let's go to Iran, okay?
	So, the nuclear deal with Iran.
	Rob, if you can tell me what page it is, I'll go straight to it.
	There it is.
	So, Iran rejects all compromise at the fifth round of talks with the U.S. begin.
	This is a Breibard story, Rob.
	I think you got a video on this one here.
	If you can play this clip, here's President Trump.
	Watch this one here.
	Go for it.
	We had some very good talks with Iran yesterday and today, and let's see what happens.
	But I think we could have some good news on the Iran front.
	Likewise, with Hamas on Gaza.
	We want to see if we can stop that.
	And Israel, we've been talking to them, and we want to see if we can stop that whole situation as quickly as possible.
	But having to do with nuclear, we've had some very, very good talks with Iran.
	And I don't know if I'll be telling you anything good or bad over the next two days, but I have a feeling I might be telling you something good.
	We've had some real progress, serious progress.
	Tom, thoughts.
	Well, I think it was a very busy interview on the tarmac because this is one of our earlier stories started here, too.
	That's right.
	And I think what, look, the interesting thing is, I was waiting for a reporter to speak up on this one, for him to say, is I'm not going to tell you how I'm going to do this.
	I'm waiting for that because our reporters just don't know how to cover foreign policy.
	I like what he was saying, and I think what he's got to figure out is this red line in the sand: how do you stop Iran from continuing their enrichment program and to build centrifuges that are going to enrich?
	Maybe let me ask a question because it looks like you're trying to answer for 30 seconds.
	You haven't put your thoughts together.
	Here's a question for you, Tom.
	Do you believe you can negotiate with Iran and they are on it?
	Like, how do you hold Iran accountable?
	And they say, we're not going to have a nuclear plant here.
	How do you know for a fact that they're not going to do it?
	How do you trust them that they're not going to do it?
	Well, first of all, the trust level with Iran is somewhere between 5% and zero.
	So why should the president even attempt to negotiate with Iran?
	What's the benefit of negotiating with Iran?
	The benefit of negotiating with Iran is let the rest of the world see what you see and let the skeptics see that you tried everything you could before you had to do something that was heavily economic or maybe turn the, you know, have Israel do a surgical strike to go take care of the nuclear capabilities.
	You have to show that you tried and tried and tried and tried.
	So you have the moral authority to go to the rest of the world and say, I did it your way.
	I tried it.
	And so I think that's my thought on that.
	Okay.
	So you think there's no way they're going to be honest with us because right now when you think about Israel, Rob, if you go online, you type in how many nuclear weapons do Iran and Israel have?
	It'll say zero, right?
	But majority of the world believes that both Israel and Iran have nuclear capabilities.
	Whether they have it or not, and it's documented or not, who knows?
	Israel weapons.
	But Iran is, you know, well, they don't have any, but, you know, they do.
	They may not, all this other stuff.
	Right now, Iran doesn't publicly acknowledge possessing nuclear weapons or not.
	They probably do.
	But I'm convinced they have it.
	I'm convinced they have it, and it's somewhere there.
	Why would you negotiate with them?
	So it's only for public to show the world that we are willing to work with them to see how far along we can go with them with Iran.
	Adam, what is your position here with negotiating with Iran?
	This is a fifth round and the president says, I want to have some good news.
	What could actually be good news that you would believe?
	That you would believe Iran's side?
	I don't agree with you, PBD, that Iran already has a nuclear weapon.
	In my opinion, I could be wrong.
	The reason I'm so adamant about that is because I firmly believe if they had a weapon, they will use it and make everybody, including Israel and anyone in that surrounding area, go meet Allah.
	So it's no secret that nuclear physicists based in Iran go missing for some convenient reason because Israel believes in self-perseverance and eliminating the threat before it actually occurs.
	So every single one of these major components has a agenda.
	Israel wants a nuclear weapon to either A, use it or B, hold the world hostage.
	The United States under Trump has a simple goal of getting a good deal.
	Don't forget there was a bad deal in place under Obama that Trump reversed.
	And now they're trying to come up with a framework of a good deal, whatever that means.
	And then Israel, who's basically looking at the Iran and the world jockey for a position, and Israel is basically just saying, we don't want to be nuclear annihilated.
	And in my opinion, Israel could potentially strike first if they truly think that Iran actually has a nuclear weapon because Iran would use it based on all estimations.
	Yeah, I'm convinced they have it.
	I'm convinced they have it.
	I'm convinced North Korea has them and hasn't used it.
	You said that, I think, last week, that you disagree, but at the same time, you believe if Iran had it, they would attack.
	Why are you so convinced that they have it already?
	Yeah, so listen, you know, I'm on the flight here.
	And on a flight here, we're in a place that's only eight of us.
	Seven is people with me.
	One person sister, very successful man.
	He starts bragging about his grandfather.
	And he and I just become close friends like this on a flight.
	And we talked for an hour and a half to the point where my son is like, that, can you stop talking to him and talk to me?
	And it was such an awesome conversation.
	And he starts telling me traditions he had since he was four years old.
	His grandfather was a very successful man, that at the age of 102, net worth of $3.5, $4 billion, super successful.
	And there's a quote about his profile that I'm reading that says, this was a man that if you saw him on the outside, he was tough as nails.
	But if you were able to get all the way deep down inside, he was a teddy bear, right?
	And he has a very softer side.
	Many didn't see Fusaw.
	Okay.
	Then there is the opposite.
	There's those who act hard on the outside, but deep down inside, they're scared shitless and they don't want to do anything.
	I think that's exactly what the current regime in Iran is.
	I think deep down inside, they're scared.
	I think deep down inside, they want to act tough in front of their people to win over their people that they have.
	But on the out, deep, deep, deep inside, they are so afraid of what could happen to them.
	What could happen if they lose it all all of a sudden?
	What could happen if people figure out how much they're abusing them, how much money they're stealing from them?
	What would really happen?
	And I'm talking Khamenei all the way at the top, whatever names you want to talk about.
	I'm talking about all of them.
	They're worried about that.
	What if they find out Iran could be a power player around the world if we open up the market?
	I just don't believe what's going to happen.
	Look, there's a video clip many years ago of Mike Wallace sitting down with the Shah.
	And they're talking, and Mike Wallace says, Do you know how the CIA from America views you?
	Because you know, what do most people say after Mossadegh?
	They say the Shah is whose puppet?
	They say the Shah is the West puppet.
	He's a puppet of the West.
	He's a West puppet.
	Look how U.S. CIA profiling Shah.
	Because the Shah says, you can't tell me what they think about me.
	Have you seen this clip before?
	Watch this clip here.
	Watch this clip here.
	It's fascinating.
	Psychological profile.
	Go back a little bit, Rob.
	We missed the first second.
	Please.
	Yeah, go forward.
	Are you aware of a CIA psychological profile about you, sir?
	No, I must admit that it's the first time I hear that.
	Truly?
	Yes.
	What is it?
	Would you be interested in hearing what the CIA had to say?
	Yes, why not?
	Really?
	Yes, why not?
	I have your permission.
	You won't send me to the Sabak if I ask?
	Listen.
	No, I would spare you this terrible ordeal of going through torture.
	The secret study portrays the Shah as a brilliant but dangerous megalomaniac who is likely to pursue his own aims in disregard of U.S. interests.
	So how could I be your man, your agent?
	What do you mean?
	Safeguarding your interests.
	Well, it says that the Shah is an uncertain ally.
	His dreams of glory apparently.
	Ah, I know.
	So you would like me to be your sooge?
	Do you want me to go on or shall I forget about this?
	Well, some funny points.
	Why not?
	Love him.
	Just being brutally honest.
	Just being brutally honest, right?
	Just being brutally honest.
	You watch this video.
	Rob, can you show this is the Shah?
	And guess who's in the back seat?
	Who do you think?
	This is a roller coaster, right?
	The Shah and the Queen are in the front.
	Guess who's getting in the back seat?
	Play the clip and you'll see in a second.
	There's the Shah of Iran and his pretty empress in the front seat, and Walt Disney and the pretty hostess in the back.
	This is the end of bat.
	What a random group of people.
	Let me show you.
	Okay.
	Pause it.
	Okay, you know what this is like?
	This is like showing, Rob, this is like showing, go to show the picture of Khamenei.
	Go to show the current president of Iran or the Ruel, you know, Khamenei, if you can type in, this is like showing Khamenei right now gets in a roller coaster ride with his wife and Bob Igra and his wife.
	Okay, well, there goes the hat.
	How do you do that?
	How do you do that today?
	But the point is, Iranians have to realize what Iranians had at one point was absolutely amazing.
	The access to resources, the place where everybody wanted to visit, you know, a place where everybody could go and have some business as well, advertise as well.
	Watch this clip here.
	Showing women in different countries in the 70s versus today.
	This is Iraqi woman in the 70s.
	Go ahead and play the clip.
	Who looks happier?
	Them?
	No.
	Who looks happier?
	Them?
	Egyptian woman, 50s?
	Or them?
	No.
	Lower the audio a little bit, Rob, so we don't get any of this up.
	Look at this one.
	Algerian woman, 1970, today.
	Okay?
	And this continues.
	Syrian woman, 1973, today.
	Who looks happier?
	Actually, logical question.
	Irani woman in the 70s.
	No.
	Today.
	Irani woman 2023.
	Okay.
	Afghan woman 1958 versus today.
	No.
	Who looks happier?
	Well, I really can't.
	You know, I think it would be unfair to judge this because you can't see their faces anymore.
	So how do you know if they're not?
	I wouldn't know.
	Listen, this message is being given more to the Iranian people than anything else.
	That you have to realize when you have something with beautiful natural resources, incredible history.
	I've been to a lot of incredible museums in my life.
	Truly, a lot of incredible museums in my life.
	Some incredible places in Greece.
	You go to Acropolis, magical.
	I don't know if you've been.
	Of course, we're going to go when you see it.
	Adam, you've been to Acropolis.
	It's something else, right?
	Tom, you've been to Acropolis.
	Something else.
	You go and see where people fought.
	Alexander the Great.
	You go to Italy, beautiful places here.
	Venice, the cathedrals they built.
	They know Christopher Columbus walked here and all this other stuff.
	All these museums in America, nothing comes close to the museums you go to in Iran.
	It's such a, I mean, obviously, I've never been to Israel, so I can't sit there.
	I look forward to going to Israel to see where Jesus walked and kind of go through, see a lot of those things.
	We're probably will be doing that here in the next couple years.
	I can't wait to do that.
	But Iran, nothing like seeing the history of Iran.
	There's something very unique about it.
	And I'd like to see very early in the next few years, future looks bright.
	I'd like to do a hat like this with Iran on the side instead of Florida.
	Because you know, right now, Florida was first place, second was Texas, third was California, fourth was New York, fourth was last place, right?
	Florida was first place.
	I'd like to do these hats, except you know what I want these hats to be?
	To put the map of Iran.
	Okay.
	I'd love to go and have that experience.
	Imagine we go with a big group of people together to go and travel there and have some kebab, have some lochme kebab, have some liver, you know, jigad, like with the seasoning on top of it, with the, you know, the what do you call the corn with the salt and oh my god, and listening to all the de la michod bees, fahon, bar, gyardam.
	And you see Tom behind it, he's just shaking his head.
	It's just going like this.
	It's in my top five.
	Yeah, I know it is in your top five.
	But that is the part that I'd like to see happen.
	And you know who's capable of making this happen?
	It's hard.
	The Iranian people, as well as a little bit of help.
	The queen the other day said it's very obvious we're not getting any help from President Trump to help Iran be free again.
	That comment was made that the current administration is not helping that happen.
	So there's a difference between the queen and that guy.
	Farah, Farah, there's only one.
	Farah.
	Yep.
	And what's her relationship with that guy?
	She was the wife of the Shah of Iran.
	Oh, okay.
	So, Pat, does this?
	Yes, she is.
	So, so, question, because you historically, you could kind of help me out.
	So, the switch from the leader that made that happen, who got him out and put in the new one?
	Is it the people or was it?
	Oh, that's a very complicated story that a lot of people.
	Where you been?
	Hold on, but hold on.
	So, so, Pat, so do the people have the power right now, the people, to change that guy, like how we did, how America did with Trump winning in 2016, then what happened in 2020, and then coming back, and the people are like, no, no, we don't give a damn what you guys are trying to say what we want.
	This is what we want.
	Let me tell you what they have.
	You ready?
	These are two things they got.
	These two things.
	This is what they have: they have a phone with a camera, and they got a mic.
	This is the most important weapon Iranians have.
	There's not a more important weapon than this.
	It's called a phone record post.
	It's called a mic.
	Talk into it and get louder and louder and louder.
	There's plenty of them that are doing it and expose.
	In Brazil, there's a young man named Nicolas Fejera, right?
	The guy's an absolute incredible communicator who is, I think he got the most views last year on Instagram for a couple of days.
	I think he has the most viewed video of the year, if I'm not mistaken.
	This guy is an absolute amazing young stud that'll be a president of Brazil probably by 2036 around that time.
	The younger generation of Iran needs to get louder and louder and louder and louder and louder until you cannot arrest a thousand different kids in a bunch of different regions.
	Whether they're here, whether they're there, whether they're in Dubai, whether they're anywhere around the world that they left, they got to get vocal to the point that you can't go kill everybody.
	Yeah.
	What are you going to do?
	You're going to kill 5,000 people in 300 different locations?
	You can't do that.
	Then everyone's going to know what the hell you're all about and it's out.
	But they got to use these two weapons.
	Let them use all the other weapons.
	You use these two weapons.
	And it's going to take a level of courage.
	I think this next generation, we're going to see some heroes in Iran we've never seen before who are going to go in the history books of bringing peace in the Middle East, of truly bringing peace in the Middle East.
	The kind of peace that this man, Mohamed Azar Shah Palavi, had in Iran pre-1979 when it was free.
	But that's going to take a while.
	But those two weapons are available to everybody.
	You know, we accidentally started some guy who's a fan of Ayatima starts an Instagram account called VTFar C.
	Okay, and if you go to VT Far C, we don't do this.
	Just so you know, this if you go to VT Far C, Rob, you got to put VT Far C together.
	Yeah, put VT Far C together and look how he does it.
	I don't even know how he does it, by the way.
	And it gets millions of views.
	Okay.
	Can you go to the reels, Rob?
	Go to the reels if it shows up.
	Go to the reels that he's got.
	He's got the top three pinned over there.
	Go to, say, the first one, whichever one that they translate my voice.
	Let's see if this is the one.
	Go ahead.
	We can pause it here.
	But this is the power today.
	Ooh, there's a couple media companies that did it right.
	Use these two weapons.
	Use these two weapons you got.
	Use them accordingly.
	Unite, find each other, get loud, create groups, become first start small, local, then go regional, then go national, then go international, and then create big Telegram groups.
	And it's already been done, by the way.
	It's already been done.
	But a big part of it is who's going to get the credit?
	Who's going to get the credit?
	Who's going to get the credit?
	You want freedom, is what you want.
	I don't care who gets the credit.
	You just want to make sure that freedom happens there.
	But eventually, God willing, this will happen.
	And it'll actually make the world a safer place for a lot of other people.
	Anyways, we are at the end of the podcast.
	And we've been going for quite some time here, Tom.
	And Adam, Adam, originally we were a little bit worried with you because when you first came on, you know, I don't know if we were able to cut it or not.
	Adam was watching some inappropriate videos.
	He's in this hotel room.
	I'm like, why are you watching videos like that?
	Like, you're 40, 47 years ago.
	Sorry for watching CNN, PVD.
	That's what we're talking about.
	Why would you watch that?
	But no, let us, we are right now out of the country.
	And you know what, Brob, I think showing that, do we show that?
	We're working on something massive that we're going to bring back and show you what project we're working on that we've been working on this thing for about a, would you say a year and a half, two years?
	Has this been in ideation mode for about a year and a half?
	I think it's probably honestly two years.
	Two years, I think.
	From like early ideation when you were thinking about it and you put some things down to processing that out to all the way where we are today.
	Pat, I think it's a full two years.
	Well, look, for those of you guys that are still here or still with us after two hours, and I don't know where we are right now, 15 minutes.
	Live, let's just show the highlight clip here on where we are right now so you can kind of get an idea.
	We are somewhere in Italy right now working on a big project that we'll be launching here very soon.
	And, Rob, go ahead and play the highlights.
	It's exciting.
	It's exciting stuff.
	Oh, that tattoo by your team.
	That was a good meeting, Vinny.
	That was amazing.
	We will be releasing these meetings here soon.
	More intel.
	It'll be announced a lot at the vault conference, but stay tuned.
	A year and a half in the works.
	All right, Rob, we can put it on pause.
	Stay tuned.
	I think probably first week of August will give you a teaser of what it is at the vault.
	Everybody will see it and find out about it.
	It's been an exciting project that we've been working on for two years.
	But anyways, gang, hanging out with us.
	We will not be doing podcasts on Thursday.
	We'll be busy the entire weekend and we get back next week and we will definitely be doing the podcast next week once we get back in the country.
	With that being said, take care, everybody.
	God bless.
	Bye-bye.

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