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Iran SLAMS Trump, Biden’s Cancer BOMBSHELL & FBI's Epstein SHOCKER | PBD Podcast | Ep. 588

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover Joe Biden making a shocking cancer announcement, Dan Bongino and Kash Patel's controversy around Jeffrey Epstein, and Trump stirs the pot with a Truth Social post about the Clinton Body Count. ------ 🧢 VT STATE HATS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4mmYypN?r=qr 🇺🇸 VT MEMORIAL DAY COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4jTds5r 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! TIME STAMPS: 00:00 - Show intro 00:38 - Topics coming up on today's podcast. 04:42 - 🧢 VT STATE HATS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4mmYypN?r=qr 07:45 - James Comey's 8647 message to Trump. 23:48 - Joe Biden cancer announcement. 42:27 - Iran slams Trump over nuclear negotiations. 1:17:33 - Sebastian Gorka slays Politico during MS-13 debate. 1:29:39 - China unleashes insane new plane. 1:39:51 - Trump says China would've broken without trade deal. 1:49:35 - Kash Patel confirms Epstein '86'd' himself. 1:58:04 - Stephen A Smith calls out Vinnie in viral rant. SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @ValuetainmentComedy @theunusualsuspectspodcast @HerTakePod @bizdocpodcast ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Did you ever think you would make a kid?
You want to hustle on something so you're chasing me?
No, this life means that.
The future looks bright.
Handshake is better than anything I ever saw.
It's right here.
You are a one-on-one.
I don't think I've ever said this before.
Okay, gang.
So we got a couple big news.
Vinny's got a surprise he'll show you at the end, but we'll get to that here in a minute.
And we got a numbered merch drop, something that four states will be very excited about.
Having said that, stories.
President Trump has a two-hour call with Putin.
Putin confirms that they had the call.
They had the conversation.
What was on the call?
What's going to happen?
What were the concerns?
What was intense about the call?
We'll have our own thoughts on the podcast.
We'll talk about it here today.
Comey gets up there about 86.47.
We haven't talked about it.
He was at the beach walking with his wife.
He says, oh, babe, look at this beautiful art.
Let me take a picture and post it on Instagram.
It's just a bunch of numbers.
It's not like I'm insinuating anything.
I would never do such a thing.
My job's a regular job.
I'm just the director of FBI.
It's not like I got a big job that I know threats and phrases people use like 187 or 86 or any of that stuff.
I don't know that kind of stuff.
I'm just an innocent bystander who's got a book coming out that's trying to promote it and was trying to be a little bit creative.
No other negative motives.
I would never want any harm on the president.
All this, I would never do that.
So we have some thoughts on that.
President responded to it.
A bunch of other guys responded to it.
And then Dan Bongino and Kash Patel talked about Epstein.
And I'm sure you've seen it.
I don't know if you've seen it.
Maybe you have.
We'll talk about that as well.
Rob, is that the TV supposed to show that clip?
Which clip is that that's up there?
If you may want to take a look at that.
And then Derange, Trump, Boost, Bonkers, Clinton, Killis, conspiracy.
I don't even know what that story is, but Vinny has some thoughts on it.
Trump calls Springsteen highly overrated after Rocker labels him treasonous overseas.
Trump doesn't want, by the way, I think Bruce Springsteen fell.
I don't know if you guys saw that clip on Rob.
Did you see him falling or no?
I didn't, but I can look at it.
He fell.
I think he fell.
He's falling really far.
He fell.
He literally might have been an older clip, but he's still, he did fall on stage.
He did fall on stage.
But Trump doesn't want Apple making iPhones in India.
I had a little problem with Tim Cook.
Trump, China would have broken apart if we didn't do deal, won't do deals with everyone.
CNN Harry Enton says Trump's approval rating are suddenly surging beyond expectation.
Poll, New Jersey voters approve of Trump.
You ready for this?
More than their own Democratic governor.
It's kind of weird.
Joe Biden diagnosed with aggressive former prostate cancer.
A lot of thoughts on there.
I'm sure Tom and Vinny have things to say about it.
Doctor says inconceivable Biden cancer went undetected and by his medical team is a cover-up.
Thank you, Rob.
Trump says Biden's autopen looks like a bigger and bigger scandal after full special counsel Robert Hurr audio leaks.
We'll talk about that.
Iran's Khamenei has this video that he says how he wants to negotiate with U.S.
And I want you to watch it.
And when you watch it, tell me if these nice people, very nice people, what they're saying, how they're reacting to it.
You can just tell they want to negotiate in a very friendly way.
But I want to get your innocent reaction to it and see what you think about it.
AOC's district sees a 70% crime surge, more than double New York City's average.
New York Post story says she doesn't care.
Bernie Sanders Democratic Party is a threat to democracy.
Said this on the Flagrant podcast.
Those guys did a great job with the interview.
China's Geotian SS UAV spooks you.
Oh, you guys got to see this video.
I don't know if you've seen this video or not.
You got to see this video.
If it's real, it's a little whack, man.
If it is real.
But Tom, there's nothing about it that's too complicated to not be real.
At first, I thought it was planes, but it's drones.
Anyway, you gotta charge.
It is wild.
Yes, it is wild.
You're right.
Golka, Gorka, Guts Politico, MS-13 Defense, Political Response with Lives.
You got to see that clip.
It's very interesting.
Wendy McMahon steps down as president and CEO of CBS.
A couple of days ago, that announcement's made.
And then yesterday they're saying a rough estimate of $30 to $35 million, maybe to pay out.
A YouTuber with 15, 16 million subscribers decides to stop creating content because he was becoming too famous and he just wants to live a simple life with his family.
And he didn't like it.
And Shaq says he thinks there's some green screen involvement with all female blue origin mission.
Can you imagine Shaq saying that about what's going on over there?
Now we got a couple other clips we'll show you guys that I think you need to watch.
I think there's going to be some reaction to it.
But having said that, I want to show you what's going on right now.
Look, there's four states.
It's so interesting.
The top four states that watch this podcast the most each have a special place in my heart.
Rob, we got a special merch drop today with these four states.
If you want to play this clip, we have officially four hats, each representing Florida, California, Texas, and New York.
What's wild about these four states is I lived in California for 24 years, longest I ever lived in a state.
I lived in Texas for five years.
I've been in Florida for four years.
And we own the minority owners of New York Yankees.
So there is something going on with each of these four states.
And it happens to be the top four states that we have here.
These hats will go like this, okay?
Because they're limited.
We don't have a big supply of them.
But the Florida one is going to sell out in minutes, like it always does.
Why?
Because it is numbered one out of 250.
And when you order those, they come in this box, the Value Time Future Looks Bright box with the hat inside of it.
Florida's is going to have the red back lid, which is not lid.
What do you call this thing here?
That is their flag.
What do you call this, Vinny?
Here, this is the snapback.
And then you have Florida's flag here with Florida's map on the side.
And then you got the same thing with Texas, with New York, with California.
So here's what we're going to be doing.
Two things.
You got the shirt sweaters and the hats, limited supply.
Anybody that places the order, the first hundred are going to get a Future Looks Bright keychain, or you see the keychain right there.
Whether you order one hat, two hats, or whatever you order, you're going to get those right there.
However, I want to show you something crazy.
I sent to Chris this morning.
Rob, go to eBay.
Go to eBay.
Go to eBay.
Go to eBay if you can.
And type in Future Looks Bright.
This is absolutely wild.
So if you go to eBay, Vinny, have you seen this lately?
Future looks bright.
Look what's there.
$400.
These numbered hats end up, but watch this.
$800 for one of them.
Keep going.
Okay.
Keep going.
$249.
Last one.
That means he already sold one.
Listen to this.
Let it go lower.
Watch what happens here with the rest of them.
Okay.
Keep going.
It's becoming a marketplace on eBay on some of these guys.
Some of them, the super fans buy their word.
I absolutely love it.
You're going to see me on Jesse Waters tonight.
$10,000.
Are you serious?
I mean, that's how numbered stuff goes.
He's got the one out of $250, though.
So if you go lower, tonight when I'm on Jesse, by the way, even that backpack, we sold them.
It's $2,028 for a numbered backpack.
There was only 100 of them.
We did limited.
The red ones.
We'll never do it again.
The other one was the Future Looks Bright, the white and the gold.
$3,000.
Anyways, gang, if you believe the future looks bright, we want a million people wearing this gear, sporting it all over the place with the Value Tama brand.
Go to vtmerch.com, place the order.
And those of you guys that are in the PBD podcast circle, you were told about this before anybody else, as well as the PBD Entrepreneur Circle.
If you join the circle, you get these merch drops before anybody else does.
Having said that, let's get right into it.
Rob, can you do me a favor and play the clip of President Trump talking about James Comey's post, which maybe first show the post what it is, and then let's go to it.
So James Comey, the former director of FBI, good friends with the Clintons, okay?
Very good.
Gets out there and posts this on his Instagram account.
He's at the beach, 8647.
He posts it and he says, cool shell formation on my beach walk.
Then he takes it down, then he apologizes.
Then he says, I knew there was something with it.
I am not for violence.
I am not for anything having to do with violence.
I would never do such a thing.
Rob, if you just go to my tweet on the bottom of it, I added his additional explanation to it.
And he says, you know, this is not me.
I'm not a person that wants to see anything bad happening to anyone.
It should come up right at the bottom right there.
Beautiful.
If you click on the bottom one in the comment section, I added it.
Here's what he says.
I posted an earlier picture of some shells on the beachwalk, which I assume were a political message.
I don't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence.
I didn't.
The former director of FBI says, I didn't realize someone associated those numbers with violence.
It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind.
So I took the post down.
Great.
President Trump hears about this.
And by the way, even Comey reacted to this.
There's a clip of him react that I think he reacted to a first time yesterday.
But first play what President Trump had to say, and then we'll go to Comey's.
Go for it.
He knew exactly what that meant.
A child knows what that meant.
If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant assassination.
And it says it loud and clear.
Now, he wasn't very competent, but he was competent enough to know what that meant.
And he did it for a reason, and he was hit so hard because people like me.
They like what's happening with our country.
Our country has become respected again and all this.
And he's calling for the assassination of the president.
Obviously, he apologized and said he didn't say that.
Well, he apologized for violence.
But look, he's a very big person.
What do you want to see happen?
What do you want to see happen?
I don't want to take a position on it because that's going to be up to Pam and all of the great people.
But I will say this.
I think it's a terrible thing.
And when you add his history to that, if he had a clean history, he doesn't.
He's a dirty cop.
He's a dirty cop.
And if he had a clean history, I could understand if there was a leniency.
But I'm going to let them make that decision.
There you go.
So he plays this clip, right?
He says this when he's talking to Brett Baer.
Rob, then he reacts, Comey's clip of reacting when he's being interviewed.
And it's just, you know, I didn't mean anything by it.
Look at the way he answers this.
Go for it.
In the middle of a political firestorm.
Yeah, for walking on the beach with my wife.
So I don't know how we ended up here.
It never occurred to me that it was any kind of controversial thing, but that's the time we live in.
So take me back to the walk on the beach.
It's the time we live in.
We were walking on the beach.
We went to the beach to prepare for this week, which was the launch of my book, and to think about the book and to prepare to answer questions about it.
And we were walking back towards the road and we saw in the sand someone had arranged shells with numbers.
And Patrice, my wife, said, why would someone put an address in the sand?
And I said, I don't know.
And we stood over it.
And I said, you know, I think it's some kind of like political message.
And she said, you know, 86, when I was a server, she did a lot of work in restaurants, meant to remove an item from the menu when you ran out of ingredients.
And I said, well, to me, as a kid, it always meant to leave a place, to ditch a place.
I said, that's really clever.
So then she said, you should take a picture of that.
And I did.
And I posted it on my Instagram account and thought nothing more of it until I heard through her that people were saying it was something that she was so assassination, which is impossible at this point.
So my question, Vinny, is for you, who actually believes this?
Every single, every single person.
Do you really think every single person on the left believes this?
99.5% are like, I don't know.
Yeah, why would even if they, I'm telling you, the majority of them are like, by the way, they hate for Trump is so much.
And here's the thing.
Does he really think us, the regular average, sane thinking person, thinks that the ex-director of the FBI just so happens to be walking, looks down and sees 86, the president of 47.
That's random.
By the way, he is a lawyer, FBI director, top secret, all the clearances, all everything.
He's a professional BS artist, okay?
Lying through his teeth, and he thinks that that was going to make people go, whoa, look at this guy.
And then we're going to go read his book, which is the third installment of some stupid, whatever, murder, mystery.
I don't know what the hell.
It's weird.
It's probably on murder and mystery.
But this is my question.
This is my question.
And Tom, Adam, I'm going to come to you guys as well.
Here's a question.
Do you think this is about they don't know?
Or do you think they know and they're glad he's doing it?
Because those are two different camps.
Maybe there's a camp that's like, dude, I'm kind of with it.
Yeah, that's, I know exactly what he means.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Of course.
Me too.
I agree.
Or is it more, oh, I never knew what 8647, man.
Tom, where are you at with this?
I think James Comey is carefully crafted a phrase and he's absolutely lying.
He said, I saw some shells.
Yeah, you saw some shells, but did you put them in there?
Did you do that?
I think he did it.
I think he arranged them and he took a picture with it.
I think he did it.
He was taking a walk with his wife and he did that.
He said, I saw some shells because he doesn't say he didn't do it.
He just says, I saw some shells.
So I think he's full of it.
His excuse is full of it.
And it's just like, look, when you're in that position, you cannot leave and do like this.
This is so below the belt.
This is so below the belt.
Where are you at?
Beyond the pale.
So I just posted a question here on ChatGPT.
I'm going to go to it, but I want to hear what Adam has.
This whole conversation of 8647, James Comey talking about Trump allegedly.
He's either foolish, naive, or the most brilliant marketer right before a book launch.
So correct me if I'm wrong.
He has a book that is launching this week.
He's the former FBI director.
And you mean to tell me that you don't know what 8647 means?
Listen, I live in Miami.
There's beaches everywhere.
I've walked on beaches my whole life.
I've never seen an 8647 in seashells on the beach.
So it can mean a couple different things.
If you're working the restaurant, 80, hey, 86, the guac, we're out of guac.
All right, there's no more guacamole.
Okay, cool.
You know, I've worked in bars before.
I've been to bars before.
Hey, we got an 86 customer over there.
He's drunk.
Let's get him out of here.
Or in the military world, we're going to have to 86 Osama bin Laden, who's Osama bin Haiden.
All right, that means to eliminate.
He's not an idiot.
He's not a fool.
This is, in my opinion, a marketing endeavor for him to basically promote his book.
By the way, this is the same James Comey who tried to hide behind a big blue curtain being 6'8 when Trump's first week in the White House in 2016.
Do you remember that clip?
Rob, you have that clip?
I don't even know.
It's just hit this.
Yeah, play this right here.
This is Trump's first week in office.
Hey, James Comey, come on over here.
He's hiding in a curtain.
6'8.
Walks over to Trump.
We can see you, buddy.
I think he was fired.
He's trying to hide in a curtain.
I didn't know he was that.
That's FBI tactics right there.
I think he knew exactly what he was doing.
Can I say one thing, Gilbert?
It's not as if Trump wasn't shot in the head already.
It's not like a month later or two, or however long, another guy was in the bushes trying to kill him.
Okay.
And this is what, guys, let's not pretend.
This is the left.
This is how they do.
They celebrate.
When Trump was shot, what were they doing?
They were dancing.
They were celebrating.
Kill him.
How many clips of people on TikTok and everything hoping and getting because some of them got canceled?
The guy from Tenacious D calling for the president to be shot.
That's the left.
Which party holds severed head of the president with blood on his face?
Which comedian, Kathy Griffin?
That's the left.
It's not us.
It's him.
And now, I know we're going to get there.
The president's sick.
No, we're like, oh my God, you know, the president's sick.
You know, we're praying for him.
That's not what this party does.
He's not stupid.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
Let me tell you what I just did.
Rob, can you do me a favor?
Go to ChatGPT, which is ran by Sam Altman, OpenAI.
Him and Elon are not necessarily best of friends and type in the follow-on thing here.
I said, if one day I'm thinking about being the director of the FBI, can you give me an idea of what my day today looks like?
What things do I work on?
Okay.
Chat GPT is going to be like, this guy wants to be the director of FBI one day.
Okay.
So, Rob, both you and I are two candidates right now.
They're sizing up to see if we're going to be directors of FBI.
Here's what it says.
And then I got a follow-up question, which is very interesting.
Okay.
It says your day today starts off with morning intelligence briefings, your daily threat overview.
You'll start your day off with top secret briefings, one national security threats, domestic and international terrorism.
Hello, domestic threat.
That's a domestic threat that just happened right now.
Espionage, cyber attacks, organized crime.
Situation updates.
Updates on high-profile investigations, ongoing counter-intelligence operations, coordination with other agents like CINS, ADHS.
Crisis manager, if there's an active shooter, terrorist plot, a major cyber breach, or national emergency, you're the front and center in the response.
You are the front and center.
You may be on secure calls with the president, attorney general, national security.
Oversight.
FBI has over 35,000 employees.
You'll run that.
Congressional public accountability.
Boom.
Okay, great.
Political pressures and independence.
FBI is supposed to be independent, but in reality, you'll constantly navigate political minefields from both sides.
Every investigation involving politicians, civil rights.
Okay, great.
High-level meetings.
You'll regularly have these meetings.
Great.
Seven personnel and policy decisions.
You'll sign up on major.
Okay, great.
Got it.
Pfizer warrants.
You'll also need crisis management, stay calm, legal and constitutional expertise, political savvy and thick skin, executive level leadership, top secret clearance.
No problem.
Here's my follow-up question.
You ready?
My follow-up question was, should the director of the FBI know what 86 stands for?
Watch what Chad GBT says.
Know what 86 stands for?
Let's see if it's going to be the same answer that he gives me as he gives you.
Yes, absolutely.
The director of the FBI should absolutely know what 86 stands for.
Slang's definition, 86 means to cancel or reject or get rid or eliminate.
Law enforcement intelligence, it can carry a more serious or lethal connotation.
Target was 86, neutralized.
FBI context.
It continues saying code of language, street slang.
The FBI director oversees not only operations, but interagencies.
So you know exactly what 86 stands for.
Look at this.
This even validates it.
So yes, green check mark.
I don't think I've ever seen a green checkmark.
I mean, ChatGPT.
This is the kind of stuff.
This is the kind of stuff that you do that you lose credibility.
I think Democrats know it.
Look, there's Democrats that know it and support it.
Meaning, meaning what?
Meaning, take them out.
Yeah, of course.
Of course, there's Democrats.
What percentage do you think of actual Democrats, Trump hanging down?
It's not as big as you think.
It's not as big as you think.
I think it is.
I'm telling you, it's not as big as you think.
How big do you think it is?
I personally think, and I'm pretty sure, Rob, and the majority of Democrats, if Donald Trump was shot and killed today, what percentage of Democrats would want Trump to be 86th?
More than 50%.
I don't know.
Oh, very good.
I think it's higher.
By the way, that is.
Where are you at?
I'm low.
You know why?
If you, if, if, if there was a loss of Trump right now, death, assassination, whatever, God forbid any of it.
Guess who's president?
JD Vance.
That's not what they want.
Because now he's good.
They don't want that at all.
I don't think they're thinking that.
It would be a galvanizing point on the conservative side at a point where we've had some economic uncertainty, a little bit of bounce back.
We're still waiting for a permanent solution on China.
But I don't think about it.
I'm not a strategist.
Who's the last Republican president that got assassinated?
They got assassins attempting to go.
He would have been Republican today.
Well, Reagan's assassination attempt.
Abraham Lincoln.
When Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, who was president afterwards?
Ulysses S. Grant.
Who was Ulysses S. Grant?
His vice president.
He was his vice president.
First, it was a short term.
Andrew Johnson.
And not only that.
I don't look at Democrats as evil.
I literally think people are born left-brain, right-brain, and many of the creative right-brains will lean left.
And many of the left-brain, logical, analytical, numbers, data will eventually lean right.
I think a part of it is your upbringing.
I think a part of it is your ethnicity, what's been fed to you, affirmations, all this stuff.
There's so much power in propaganda.
There is so much power in propaganda.
Some of it is good.
Some of it is bad.
There's so much power in it.
I don't think that's the case.
I think this is something where the group of people that didn't know what 8647 means is less than 5%.
95% knows exactly what 8647 means.
And the 5% that doesn't know what it means probably wasn't born in America.
They were born somewhere else.
So they're like, yeah, 86 was a road I used to drive back in, you know, Mexico or Iran or whatever.
I used to drive on the 86 freeway.
They look at it in a different way.
But for the director of FBI to say this, I certainly hope they investigate a little bit more.
And the reason why this is a little bit weird, Rob, because what are the president's tweets the next three days?
First, he goes after Comey.
Then he goes after Hillary Clinton and posts this video, this cryptic video on his truth social.
This one right here.
Play the clip.
Watch this one here.
John F. Kennedy Jr., he was declared the frontrunner for the New York Senate seat back in 1999.
Days later, his plane crashed into the Atlantic Ocean, and his rival, Hillary Clinton, was elected senator.
Okay.
Mary Mahoney was a Clinton white house.
So he posts this.
So watch this.
Comey, sequencing.
Then goes after Hillary, sequencing.
Right after Hillary, he goes after who?
Kamala.
He posts about Kamala, investigating what's going on with Beyonce.
I want to find out why you were scamming people to pay them to get their vote.
So that is scamming ways of getting someone's vote.
So Kamala.
Then after Kamala, you go to who?
He goes after who after Kamala Rob.
So he goes after.
So you got, who do we have first?
He goes after Comey first, then Hillary, then Kamala, and then Obama.
Obama.
So you go in this sequencing of events back to back to back.
This is the tweet.
Right?
According to Newsport, Beyonce was paid $11 million to walk on stage, endorse Kamala, and walk off loudly.
Remember, the Democrats and Kamala illegally paid millions of dollars like this illegal elections campaign.
Bruce Springson, Oprah, Bono, Bono, and perhaps many others have a lot of explaining to do.
So then the next person he goes after is Obama.
Do you have the Obama one robot?
I can find it.
Yeah.
Then he goes after Obama.
What's he saying?
What's he saying?
What's he doing?
What's he getting ahead of?
What's he trying to say?
Maybe he knows something.
Maybe he got some intel.
Maybe he's playing such offense, all roads lead to Obama.
Re-Truth if you want public military tribunal.
All truths lead to Obama.
So you got, then Biden's story comes out, which we hear about.
And Rob, if you want to get this one ready, Biden's story comes out.
President Joe Biden diagnosed with aggressive form of prostate cancer, okay?
Aggressive form of prostate cancer.
Let's see this one here.
So, you know, former President Joe Biden, aged 82, was diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer on Friday, characterized by Gleason score of nine, great group five, with metastasis to the bone.
After doctors found a prostate nodal following increased urinary symptoms, with a spokesperson stating, while this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows the effective management.
President Trump came out and said, Melanie and I are saddened to hear this news, recent medical diagnosis.
We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery, right?
He says this.
Rob, what clip is this one here?
So I have doctors on both MSNBC and News Nation talking about how it would be impossible for Joe Biden to just find out about this diagnosis today, considering how aggressive the cancer is in the stages that are prostate cancer has spread to the bone that he could have had it for up to a decade,
but certainly it's likely, would it be fair to say it's likely to have had this for at least several years?
Oh, more than several years.
You don't get prostate cancer.
So again, I just want to sub you.
So this is not speculation.
If you have prostate cancer that has spread to the bone, then he's most certainly, you are saying, had it when he was president of the United States.
Oh, yeah.
He did not develop it in the last 100, 200 days.
He had it while he was president.
He probably had it at the start of his presidency in 2021.
Yes, I don't think there's any disagreement about that.
Damn.
And I'm just curious, again, if your doctor to a president of the United States that is an older man, would a prostate test, and again, we're just talking about a PSA screening, a blood test that you could do along with all the other blood tests.
It's not even that it would be intrusive.
Would this not be one of the first tests that you would conduct as a White House doctor?
If you're a White House doctor in this situation, I think you would certainly discuss it with the president and talk about the pros and cons.
I think if you then ask if President Biden, let's see what News Nation says on the other side of the state.
So you're saying even in a medically neglected population, it would be surprising to have a surprise diagnosis with a Gleason score of nine.
So you're saying that certainly as he was serving in the Oval Office, you believe that he knew that he had prostate cancer and even potentially as he was running in 2020 before he assumed office?
Well, most likely he had prostate cancer for a long time.
And aggressive prostate cancer such as this at age 80 grows over a long period of time.
I mean, usually it takes from the first diagnosis of prostate cancer to spread would take five to 10 years, even in the most aggressive form.
It's just to me, it seems very surprising that it would the first diagnosis would be a metastatic diagnosis, especially leasing 9 cancer without having his PSA history.
I mean, I would love Tom's thoughts.
So, you know, I've read a lot about prostate cancer and not only in the last 48 hours on this, but previously, because for men, you want to start a PSA test and get a baseline in your early 40s, and then you continue that.
And if that PSA moves even a little bit, because all of our PSA, just like all of us have a different resting pulse pat, you know what I mean?
Mine may, you're maybe 80, you know, a distance runner may be 67.
Everyone will have a baseline PSA score.
And if that score goes up, then you now go to aggressive blood screening and other forms of prostate tests to find out what's going on.
And so the last doctor said, yeah, it takes if you're in active treatment, it takes about five years to metastasize to bone.
Typically, I'm not the doctor.
This is what the doctors are saying, and this is what the articles are saying.
So he likely entered the presidency with elevated PSA, signs of prostate cancer.
And, you know, the public didn't know about it.
And not only did he have, you know, the signs of mental decline, which we're no longer debatable and have been hidden and were conspiracies behind the hiding of it.
He had, you know, prostate cancer escalating to metastasizing to the bone.
And he ran for president.
It just shows you that his health had multiple angles he should not have run.
Vinny.
Well, first and foremost, just like with Comey with his 8647, does anybody believe that they didn't know?
Honestly, no.
Thank you, Tom.
His mental decline, his cancer.
Think about this, too.
He's the oldest president in history.
He had skin cancer during his presidency.
You guys remember that?
He had a broken foot, COVID really bad twice, two brain aneurysms before he got in.
And we're supposed to believe that he wasn't monitored around the clock.
Right?
Right, Pat?
I don't know how many doctors you must have around this guy.
He beat can't, he already got rid of skin cancer during his election.
And I'm going to have a Rob play this, Pat.
He admitted in 2022, he says, you're going to hear it, I have cancer during a speech in Massachusetts, and I'm sorry, in Virginia, July 20th.
Go ahead, Rob, play this clip.
And because it was a four-lane highway that was accessible, my mother drove us.
And rather than us be able to walk, and guess what?
The first frost, you know what was happening.
You had to put on your windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window.
That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up have cancer and why can't for the longest time had the highest cancer rate in the nation play the last 10 seconds again Rob right there.
Yeah, that's good.
Windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window.
That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up have cancer and why can't for the longest time mainstream media all the other people I grew up with had cancer at the time.
That's what they said.
Okay, at the time I'm gonna say to me, but you know he did have some sort of skin.
He did have cancer.
And Adam, you ready for this?
We're so like, oh my God, he's talking crazy.
People brushed over this because we thought he was nuts.
But like, it's there's two things.
Either they lied to us, or maybe even this, I was thinking on the flip side, Tom, what if they never told him?
What if the plan was like, don't keep this shit from him?
We don't like him anyway.
Okay, then who is that quarterback?
Jill?
Who quarterbacks?
Tom, great question.
Maybe Joe.
Anthony Blinken.
Maybe Anthony Blinken.
Who was the other guy?
The other little guy that was always on the plane with him.
Because if you think about it, Obama doesn't like him.
Obama didn't endorse him in 2016 when Hillary ran, even though he was his VP.
Obama told people, don't underestimate Joe's ability to F things up, okay?
I don't think this is a, it almost feels like a sacrifice because in 2019, when they said- You don't think he knew.
You don't think he.
I think he felt messed up, Pat, but when they're like, just I don't trust them.
I get that, but to me, I think, so from this perspective, who is it to blame?
You watch him on the view.
Rob, do you have him on the view just like three weeks ago?
And on the view, when you watch him, this is sad, when he's being asked a question and Jill sees that this is bad, within no time, she jumps in and she doesn't even let him.
It's two minutes.
Yeah.
Let her ask open-ended question and then fast forward.
Go ahead.
Mr. President, since you left office, there have been a number of books that have come out deeply sourced from Democratic sources that claim in your final year, there was a dramatic decline in your cognitive abilities in the final year of your presidency.
What is your response to these allegations or are these sources wrong?
Watch this.
They are wrong.
There's nothing to sustain that.
Number one.
Number two, you know, think of what we were left with.
We were left with a circumstance where we had an insurrection.
What the hell's happening?
When I started.
Not since the Civil War.
Jill we had a circumstance where we were in a position that she's going to give him 20 more seconds The pandemic, because of the incompetence of the last outfit, ended up over.
Millions know where she's at.
Many people die.
Semi-pain.
We're also in a situation where we found ourselves unable to deal with a lot of just basic issues, which I won't go into in the interest of time.
And so we went to work and we got it done.
And, you know, one of the things that, well, I'm happy to.
Well, and Alyssa, you know, one of the things I think is that the people who wrote those books were not in the White House with us.
You can possibly see it.
And they didn't see how hard she was doing.
To me is when you have somebody that's sick and they're not doing well, you become the parent.
And when you become the parent, last night I'm at ER till 1230, right?
And I'm with one of my kids.
Not a big deal, but I'm there.
Okay.
It's like, no, no, no.
I said, listen, my responsibility is to make the right decision for the family right now.
I'm taking you right now.
We go.
Scored away good.
Good to go.
We move on, right?
Same week before, dad.
Hey, I'm taking you right now.
Boom.
We're going right now.
Nikki takes him.
I go over there, meet him, boom, heart, you know, issue that he has.
Whether it's kids or if it's parents, my kid, under 10, my dad, 83.
It's our job to lead them, okay?
So then the responsibility lies on who?
If you don't take the kid to the hospital, it's on who?
The kid or the parent?
Parent.
If you don't take your 83-year-old, 82-year-old, you know, person to the hospital that's not doing well, who's it on?
You too.
You, of course.
So to me, this is not really on.
This becomes on the wife.
This becomes on the family.
This becomes on the supporting cast.
This becomes on the people that are spending a lot of time with the person to say, dude, this guy's not the same.
I'm willing to bet you.
If me, Tom, Mario, Moral, Teague, the guys that hang with me when the cameras are off, okay, when we're together, you, if you see something going on, you're going to be like, hey, what do you guys think what's going on with Pat?
Hey, what do you think what's going on with Vinny?
Hey, what do you think is going on with Tom?
You're like, hey, bro, can I have a conversation with you, Vinny?
Hey, man.
Something's on.
I'm at it.
I'm telling you.
Exactly.
I'll take you, right?
We would do that to just keep somebody going and say, no, no, keep doing those videos.
You're going to be okay.
Keep doing this video.
What are you talking about, bro?
What are you talking about?
So to me, if all these two shows that Rob showed, Rob, those two clips you showed, what were the outlets?
MSNBC and News Nation.
Are they Republican right-wing content?
No.
No.
And they're saying that this is most likely what?
Five to 10 years.
When we left Iran, Deshaun had cancer for many, many years.
And he hid it from everybody.
He didn't want anybody to know, but he knew about it.
His wife didn't even know about it.
And then later on, they found that boom.
You know, this happens.
Adam, your thoughts on this story?
This is worse than we thought with Joe Biden because everyone for years was calling, he's got dementia.
You know, he's got Alzheimer's.
And then, you know, he's sort of functioning, sort of falling down.
And then this bombshell drop said he has metastatic prostate cancer.
Metastatic means it's spreading.
So there's an article in the Wall Street Journal right now, if you can pull that up.
And Wall Street Journal, very center, probably center right.
They say the following.
Biden had unrivaled medical care.
How did this cancer go undetected?
Other presidents, including Donald Trump, have undergone other procedures that have been disclosed to the public.
So aggressive metastatic prostate cancer, stage four.
Because I'm in the life insurance, life expectancy world.
I've heard these Gleason scores and PSA scores.
When you hear Gleason's score of nine, it's like, uh-oh, no bueno.
How did this happen?
So who does this fall on?
To me, there's single one-point blank person, and that's Joe Biden.
She's going to bed with him every night.
She's going on every single interview with him.
She's basically saying, congratulations, Joe.
You answered all the questions.
After his disastrous debate performance, disaster.
She knew nothing.
Also, there's another person that probably should be held to account, Dr. Kevin O'Connor, who was the White House doctor.
Good call.
What did you know?
Because the writing was on the wall with all this.
So here's some stories right here.
The cabinet iced out from the president.
These are brutal Biden bombshells that were in the latest Jake Tapper book, right?
The book I believe is called Original Sin, whatever that means, right?
Questioning.
Great movie.
That's true.
Questioning Joe Biden's mental fitness.
Didn't recognize George Clooney at a big event.
George Clooney.
I mean, he looks rough anyway, but.
Okay.
He forgot the names of longtime aides halfway through the term.
Jake Sullivan, who arguably was the shadow president, many say, he looked at him and calls him, goes, hey, hey, Steve.
He goes, who the hell is Steve?
That's Jake Sullivan, buddy.
Oh, my bad.
Remember the time where he goes, and let's give it up for so-and-so?
Good for you to be here.
They're like, sir, that person died a year ago.
Oh.
So all these things are happening and people thought it was dementia.
Turns out he's actually legitimately very sick.
So whether he's a gaffe machine, whether he's just a poor debater, whether he just has dementia or Alzheimer's, turns out cancer is spreading in his body.
Also, quick PSA, one in eight men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in their lifetime.
And it's very common for men above 65.
How did this go undetected?
Adam gets screened early in your 40s.
And that's the question you have to ask.
It's not why.
Why did they lie and why did they hide it?
Because when you're desperate to hold power, you don't need a president, okay?
You need a puppet, and Joe Biden was a perfect puppet walking around pushing him.
I can't answer questions.
I can't do this.
And guys, have you guys really thought about this?
Think about this, Adam.
If Trump gets shot in the head and dies in Butler, ready for this?
Who's the president?
Joe Biden.
Right?
Joe Biden's a president.
And then this news comes out.
What happens?
They invoke Section 3 or Section 4 of Amendment 25 and Kamala Harris would become the president of the United States.
So you want to talk about dodging a bullet?
We bullet because the plan— If they didn't just make that swap before the election.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But my thing is, Tommy, think about the timeline.
June 27th, the debate happens.
Biden freezes up.
The Democrats like, oh my God.
Then all of a sudden, Trump gets shot in the head.
He survives.
Okay.
Then they drop Biden out of the race.
And then it's the Kambala time.
So we lip-dodged a bullet on multiple things.
Literally.
Literally on multiple things.
And that's why when I say that they want this guy dead, trust me, they wanted him dead and they would have celebrated the fact that he was dead.
But God had different plans.
By the way, God's plan always.
I don't worry about it.
Did you see what Trump had to say?
What?
I actually thought he was like trolling, but he was actually very sober and serious about what he said about Joe Biden and his cancer.
He says the following: Melanie and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden's recent medical diagnosis.
We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.
I actually thought he was like trolling because I'm shocked he didn't say, What a loser.
The oldest worst president in American history has cancer.
So this is actually a very grown-up move by Trump.
I think Trump realizes how serious this is.
And secondly, there's...
No, when it comes down to stuff like this, listen, I'm talking to Stephen A. this morning.
Stephen A. went after Vinny on his podcast, okay?
And he said some stuff to Vinny.
And look, if you're in this world, if you swing, you don't expect to be hit back.
You're oblivious or naive.
If in the opinion game, if you have an opinion, don't be surprised if the guy's going to react back and give their thoughts on what you have to say.
You have to have thick skin.
What did it say in the chat GBT?
One of the things about being director of FBI, what do you need to have?
A thick skin, right?
So I think Trump knows the game of fighting, but he also knows, hey, Carter died.
We're showing up to the funeral meal, Melania.
Get ready.
Get a new dress.
We're going there.
He knows that part of the tradition.
You can like him or not like him.
The man is a very traditional, is a man of tradition.
When it comes to traditions, Trump is all about it.
He knows what you have to do with the traditions.
So in those types of areas, he always shows up.
You got to respect him for it.
And you got to give him credit.
The media doesn't.
When he walked off the plane in the rain and the media cornered him and said, Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed away, he stops.
He closes his eyes and he says, She died just today, just now?
Yeah.
And he goes, he stops and he puts his hands up and he said, she had an amazing life.
And I'm sorry to hear this.
It's in the rain coming off the plane.
And so he is traditionalist.
I appreciate it.
No, he is.
And that's why you respect him for what he does.
But if it's a fight, he's going to come after you.
Let's go to the next one.
I want to go to the next door here.
Iran's Khamenei launches blistering attack on Trump after Middle East visit.
Okay.
Adam, I think you shared this clip with us.
Yes.
And so here's a clip of Khamenei.
And Brandon, we double-checked it.
This happened on the 17th.
So it's not an older video.
This is a video from the 17th.
He's talking about the Trump and a nuclear deal.
So, and there's an audience in front of him.
You tell me if this sounds like a noble group of people that you want to negotiate with.
Go ahead, Rob.
Death upon England.
Death to the hypocrites and infidels.
Death to Israel.
seems like a good vacation.
I just read the story from two hours ago, 42 minutes ago.
Iran's Khamenei slams outrageous U.S. demands on nuclear talks, and he says, I don't think nuclear talks with the U.S. will bring results.
I don't know what will happen.
He doesn't think things are going to get done.
Do you know what is the first country to voluntarily give up their nuclear arsenal?
Voluntarily?
Voluntarily.
What is the first country to ever voluntarily give it up?
Was it Iran?
South Africa was the first one to do it.
They were the first ones to come out.
You know, when it comes on to something like this, I got a lot of thoughts here, but I'll go to Adam first.
Adam, your thoughts on the story here.
Well, listen, rule of thumb: when someone tells you who they are, believe them.
What are the chances that they just said that chant, death to America, death to the infidels, death to England, death to Israel, basically, basically death to the West?
What are the chances they said that for the first time?
All in unison.
Something tells me, PBD, they've been chanting that non-stop for 45 freaking years.
And this is what you're dealing with here.
So when someone tells you who they are, believe them.
There's two different approaches that they're thinking about with the Iranian regime.
There's, well, let's bring them into the global community.
Let's bring them into the fold and let's try to make them part of the world order of the community of nations.
Okay, there's that.
We saw that Trump just went to the Middle East.
He met with Saudi, he met with Qatar, he met with UAE, met with different leaders.
Obviously, he has a, for the most part, good relationship with Bibi and Israel, but despite what people say.
So then you have the second camp that's like, you cannot negotiate with these people whatsoever.
We talk about indoctrination, we talk about Islamism, we talk about jihadism.
This is the tip of the spear for all of that.
Who's funding?
Who's the big boss of terror around the world in the Middle East?
Well, it's Iran, is it not?
The Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, all over the world.
Who's funding this?
This is Iran.
So the question is: do we try to do a nuclear deal with these people?
And then the last time we do, whether it was an infusion of cash, how many billion dollars?
Or do we not try to do a nuclear deal with these people and let them get a bomb?
What do you think?
In my opinion, you cannot let these people get anywhere near a nuclear bomb or nuclear words.
Period.
So the third option is, and nobody wants to talk about this uncomfortable fact.
So do you give them the nuclear option but no money?
No.
Do you give them money but no nuclear?
So they're just going to take that money and sow discord and terror around the world.
Or there's a third option, which we've done in Iran before, PBD, as you know, and that is regime change.
And that is a very uncomfortable conversation to have.
But I think it was Mossadegh that the United States basically uninstalled the democratically elected leader that was in what the 50s?
I was the Bernie Sanders of the 50s.
So they elected a socialist essentially in Iran and then they replaced the Shah, I believe.
So now we saw what happened.
Here's the problem when the U.S. plays regime change.
Like if you see this in Libya, if you see this in Iraq, you don't know what's behind door number two.
You see in Syria right now, they just, there was quote unquote, regime change with Bashar al-Assad.
Now there's an Islamic terrorist dressed in a suit who's the new president and we've lifted sanctions.
Okay, we'll see what happens to this guy.
Here's the difference in Iran.
We know for a fact that whatever is behind door number two in Iran is not worse than the current regime.
Is not worse than the current regime.
Whatever is behind door number two cannot possibly worse than what's going on with the Ayatollahs and the Mullahs and the Jihadists in Iran.
So in my opinion, I don't know how you get regime change there.
That's the CIA's job.
You know, if there's oil or democracy to spread, the CIA will show up somehow.
But the people of Iran deserve so much better than this.
Last point.
To anyone out there that thinks, especially on the far right or even the far left, that thinks Iran is not a threat, just look at the evidence.
There's evidence that they did try to assassinate President Trump.
This is full-on evidence.
They've attacked U.S. military personnel.
U.S. soldiers have died by second-hand or even first-hand Iranian threats.
So anyone thinks that they are just a casual Middle Eastern threat, that they don't have big jihadist intentions, you get another thing coming.
Tom.
Yeah, I look at this and the red line that the U.S. wants to keep right now says there will be no uranium enrichment.
That is the red line.
These people, look, why do they want that program?
They want that program to do exactly what they say they want to do.
And it's horrifying.
It's horrifying for the Iranian people that are there.
I'm not talking about the radicalized people that are there.
That's not the whole population.
There's a lot of people over there that are living under this umbrella, and it's tough for them.
And you can't allow it.
You can't allow them to sow terror, number one.
You got to stop that.
And then you can't allow them to enrich uranium because you know what they're going to do with it.
You know, beware the man that is afraid to die in a suicide, you know, who's armed with a weapon like that.
Now, I do find it interesting that guys like this guy manage to grow very old without committing suicide, and yet they encourage a whole lot of other people to do so.
I find that irony to be a little interesting.
Bless our martyrs.
Right.
Vinny.
I mean, how do you deal with somebody that's saying stuff like what we just saw?
I know it was bad.
I didn't know it was that bad.
But I mean, instead of war, what do we do?
Instead of literally going in there and bombing, you can't just go in there and bomb them because that's especially not with diplomacy.
That's not what Trump is about.
You got to keep them isolated economically, right?
Hard on sanctions, all that stuff.
Pull their funding.
I mean, what else do you do to stop these people?
Because that's not going to stop.
And if there's any way for them to get into this country, to do something bad to this country, they would do it.
So what's the solution without war?
That's my question.
I don't know.
What do you mean?
Do you think war is maybe needed?
No, I don't want war.
I don't want them to have nukes.
If somebody's saying death to America, death to the infidels, that type of rhetoric from the leader, something has to be done, but I don't want it to be war.
So my question is, on top of PEP aiding internally to have a resistance, because it has to be the people, right?
They have to do something for themselves.
Am I right?
Meaning they the people, the actual people that aren't brainwashed like that that want to kill America, see America die.
I mean, what Trump is doing when he goes to the Middle East, he's trying to show everybody, guys, we can do Trump said, I'd like to see people being able to do business in Iran.
It's 80 million people that you have access to.
Why not be able to do business with them?
Well, you can't because of people like that that are preventing others of being able to go there and do business.
Who can go do business with those guys?
It's a different situation.
So, you know, it could get very, very nasty.
What takes place?
I'm watching a couple different clips, Rob.
If you can take one of these clips, take the one that says 72 women in heaven.
Have you seen this one?
I don't know if you guys have seen this clip or no.
Benny, have you seen this clip?
No, so this young girl asks me questions and says, hey, if men go to heaven, then they get 72 virgins.
What do women get?
My mother says that in heaven, by Muslim, men get 72 women.
Good.
But in Christian, we go to heaven with our family.
And I want to know what kind of heaven in Muslim for women.
As far as the question is concerned, that if the men go to heaven, they'll get 72 for that beautiful woman.
What will the woman get?
The same question was asked for Aisha Mallah bid with her, who's the wife of the Prophet.
So the wife of the Prophet replied that the woman will get that which your heart hasn't desired.
What your eyes hasn't seen, what a year hasn't heard about.
That with inshallah, you'll get something equal.
What your heart hasn't desired, what your eyes hasn't seen, what a year hasn't heard.
72 Prada purses.
That's what he should have said.
You're going to get 72.
Maybe you get 72 dudes.
I actually cannot follow that theologically.
I can't either.
I don't know.
When you go back, I'm trying to really understand.
This is a pretty good thing.
I'm not making jokes.
I actually don't understand.
I'm trying to get smarter with this.
Go to play that clip.
No, go a little bit further down, Rob.
No, down, down, the other way.
Yeah.
Other way, keep going, keep going, keep going.
It's from the part that you're saying, women fit.
Pray from right here.
The same question, right there.
Yeah.
The same question I was asked to other Daisha Mallah bid with her who's the wife of the prophet.
So the wife of the prophet replied that the woman will get that which your heart hasn't desired, what your eyes haven't seen, what a year hasn't heard about that.
With Insha'Allah, you will get something equal, what your heart hasn't desired, what your eyes hasn't seen, what a year hasn't heard you're getting.
What does that mean to you tom I I, I actually I was trying to look up a separate verse and see if I could correlate it.
I don't know what does that mean to you.
It says that you will get what your heart hasn't desired, what your eye hasn't seen.
So you're gonna get something mysterious that you don't know about.
What if she doesn't like it?
Your heart hasn't seen it, your eyes hasn't, and your ears?
Your eye hasn't seen it, your heart hasn't described, it hasn't uh, uh.
Your heart hasn't desired, your eye hasn't seen, your mind hasn't, your ears haven't heard.
It doesn't make any sense.
I I, right then, and there i'd have been like okay, this guy's full of it.
What do you?
You're gonna get something that your heart hasn't desired.
Then how do you know that you're gonna like it if you haven't desired it.
Because what does the men want virgins?
Because they you know their desire these women that haven't been touched and that that are clean.
And then you want something your ears haven't heard.
Now that's that that.
That is a horrible, horrible sales pitch for women to get to freaking, to get to that heaven.
It's ridiculous.
Well, i'm not saying, i'm being actual, serious.
It's hard to fight someone that values death more than they value life, and that's what these jihadists actually believe.
The whole phrase is, you know, there'll be peace when your children Value life more than they value death.
Because when you value death and you're just thinking of paradise and you have this 72 virgin theory, which was basically exposed by this woman, she's like, Yeah, well, if I go to heaven, what do I get?
And he's basically like, I don't know, whatever your heart kind of doesn't desire or want or whatever that weird interpretation was.
But the bottom line is this, this is what leads to jihad and martyrs and suicide bombings and terrorism and basically a lack of care for civilians and civilian life.
And this is what leads to what we've seen go on in the Middle East.
Now, there's plenty of people at fault here.
Nobody does not have blood on their hands, including the U.S., including the Israel, including Saudi, including Iran, including Hezbollah, Hamas.
Everyone's guilty of a little piece.
But this is the core belief that is the centerpiece of the biggest issues in the world today, in my opinion.
And it's a very interesting correlation.
I go to the Bible, 1 Corinthians chapter 2, verse 7.
It says, We declare God's wisdom, and there is a mystery that has been hidden, and that God has destined for our glory and our benefit.
And he did so before time began.
Because no eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no human mind has conceived the things in heaven and what God has prepared for those who love him, an eternal blessing.
So they're talking about the richness of heaven in a positive sense.
And I find it very interesting that whatever he's quoting, I'm not familiar with that, but I find it very interesting that God's talking about a great blessing, and you cannot even imagine what I have for you.
The same thing we say to our kids.
You have no imagine what the blessing I will put on you, you know, if you're going to behave and you're growing properly.
That's what God is saying to us.
This I don't get.
Yeah, but you know, when I think about this and I think about negotiating with someone that has very different values than you, who wants you dead, at least, you know, the part you got to respect about Khomeini is he doesn't go to Bandar Palavi or whatever the name is today and walk on the sand and put 8647.
He just says, death upon America.
James Comey plays games.
Khamenei talks to you straight up.
You got to respect that.
Yeah, there's a part of it that's admirable that they do it that way.
But we do have different values and principles.
We just do.
We don't have similar values and principles.
And I've been saying a lot of different things lately.
I want to show this other clip, Rob.
If you can play this other clip that we have on Western society of what our ideologies are versus, you know, some of the others.
The way we work, we work in a different way.
When I lived in Iran and you would go to church, you had to be very low-key, very, very low-key.
You couldn't be loud about it.
You couldn't be, you know, going out there in the middle of the street, John 16, Jesus is coming.
You're not going to pull that off in Iran, right?
Here's Rob, the clip about the guy that asks why Muslims move to non-Muslim countries.
Have you ever heard this clip?
No.
It's a great clip, Rob.
And by the way, again, I love it.
This guy sounds like an intellect.
And the way he's describing it is actually very interesting, but not this one, Rob.
It's the other one that I gave to you.
If you go to the third one, it says, it's the fourth one.
It says, why Muslims move to, I don't know if you see it or not.
It's the clip I just texted you, Rob.
Okay.
Look at you.
I don't know.
It's all good.
If you play that one, it's with Jesse Lee Peterson.
And he's asking this Islamist, why do you live in a white Christian country and not in your country?
He's so honest about it, but I think it's good for the audience and for you to see.
Here, watch this, Vinny.
You live in a white country rather than your own country.
You live in a lot of country.
Why do you live in a white country?
I'm sorry, it's not a white country.
Because I want to tell people about Islam.
And if I stay in a Muslim country, they're already Muslims.
So there's no point of me telling them about Islam, right?
So I have to be in a place where people are not Muslim, right?
So if I'm in the UK, there is a lot of people from different religions, different faiths, where I can have a dialogue because this is what I do, right?
Interfaith religious discourse and all of that.
So I engage with different people.
Could a Christian move to a Muslim country and freely and openly convert the people from Islam to Muslim?
I mean, to Christian.
Ideally, under Islamic law, no, you're not allowed to because Kashadi is false while Islam is the truth.
And so just because you guys are liberal, I'll tell you, just because you guys are liberals following liberalism and you believe that anyone can do whatever they want to do, that does not mean that we're also liberal, right?
We don't allow harmful ideologies for our children.
We don't allow these harmful ideologies to infiltrate into our people.
When tolerance becomes a one-way street, it leads to cultural suicide.
When I am able to fly to Saudi Arabia with my Bible in hand, with my cross around my neck, to go to Mecca and go to a church, then guess what?
We're good to go.
But until that point, we have to understand the objectives and the goals that Islam...
I'm going to pause it right there.
What do you think about that?
I mean, he's right.
What he's basically saying is we're trying to spread and we're trying to come like basically spread our thing everywhere else, but nobody could come here to do it.
That's like some invasion shit, Tom.
Like, we want to come to you.
You can't come to us.
I'll tell you what I feel about this.
He is making fun of our liberalism.
It gives him the enablement to come and proselytize in the U.S.
And ideally, Christians are not allowed legally and under religious law and under the laws of the country to go in and do it.
And he laughs at us.
So to the American liberal, he's laughing.
Liberalism.
He chuckles when he talks about it.
You know what that means?
That means the Jews and the Christians die first and the liberals, the useful idiots, you die last.
That's the way this works.
Adam.
Well, Osama bin Laden had a very famous quote.
And the quote was this.
And I was talking about this earlier.
He said the following.
Do you hear helicopters?
No.
That was.
He said that too.
Adam, if you don't have a coalition.
No, here it is right here.
He says, we love death.
The U.S. loves life.
That is the biggest difference between us.
Again, you know, we talk in America about we have a lack of hero-making machine.
Who are our heroes these days?
Who are we looking up to?
Who should, you know, the girls are looking up to Cardi B and they're looking up to Megan the Stallion and the guys are looking up to some questionable people.
But in the Middle East, in Islamic countries, you know, the hero-making machine in many capacities, they value the martyrs.
There's something called pay for slay, where if a family, if a son commits suicide and takes out people with him, they get bonuses for the more people they kill.
So the hero-making machine, have you ever seen these murals of terrorists in Gaza or the people of Hezbollah or ISIS?
They put up murals of terrorists.
Now they'll argue, you know, there it is right there.
You know, one man's terrorist, another man's freedom fighter.
Okay.
Well, the definition of terrorists is the intentional killing, intentional killing of civilians.
And I feel like they're doing a great job of that.
By the way, just a little fun fact.
How many Muslims in the world?
So there's about 2 billion Muslims.
There's a little over almost two and a half Christians.
So Islam is quickly becoming the number one populated religion in the world.
Now, I want to be very clear on this.
The majority of Muslims are not jihadists or Islamists at all.
However, however, estimates say, this is according to Chat GPT, fact check me, somewhere between 15 and 25% do believe in Islamist or jihadist ideology.
So if there's 2 billion Muslims and 15 to 25%, that's 300 to 500 million people.
That is the population of the United States and Russia combined.
That believe in martyrdom and going to Allah and accepting 72 virgins.
Again, this war on the West is coming, whether we like it.
Let me say this.
Let me say this here about both of these on this topic here.
So every time I do this, I'm going to get a bunch of people that are messaging me.
I can't believe you don't know what I'm saying.
I'm very comfortable with it.
And by the way, all the labels does nothing for me.
It doesn't bother me.
I'm comfortable.
I'm okay.
Stick is, you know, fine with all this stuff.
It won't be the first time or the last time I've been going through this for a while.
You know what's a part of what that guy says I agree with?
The Muslim guy that says, you liberals, you know what I agree with him?
He's right that America became too tolerant.
He's right that America became too comfortable with, what do you call it, with the LGBTQ and woke.
When Stephen A. We yesterday was responding on I agree with PBD on the woke stuff, we had a very intense conversation when he had me on his podcast.
And when I talked about some of the stuff that I'm not okay with, 147 days dedicated to LGBTQ.
What the hell are you talking about?
And one day for fathers and one day for mothers?
No wonder we have so many single mothers in America because we don't celebrate them enough.
We don't celebrate fathers enough.
What's the last time you saw a father year type of stuff?
So that part of what Muslims do, where they do not compromise these certain set of values to cross the line with kids, we are on the same page on this specific area, this one specific area.
But the other area, Sharia law and all this other stuff that comes with it and how extreme they are and them coming over here and America's like, yeah, it's okay.
Yeah, no.
Listen, I saw this chart, Rob.
I'm going to send it to you.
It shows the world's largest religions from 1949 till today and how it's grown.
Okay.
If you play this clip, Rob and Tom, if you watch this one, Tom, it has Hindus in it.
It has everything in there.
Let's stay focused, guys.
If you watch this one here on what's going on, yeah, zoom in a little bit and watch this.
Zoom in and just let it play.
Press refresh.
And do me a favor, go back, Rob, refresh and see who's at the top before we go.
So pause it real quick.
Okay, so look at the right there.
Christianity was, by the way, 39%.
So 39%.
Islam was a little over 15%.
Hinduism, if you want to write some of these numbers down, Christianity, 39.
Hinduism's 14.
Islam was about high 15s, right?
And then Buddhism and all this other stuff.
Now, let it play.
In Judaism, by the way, it's very important to look at the number of Jews.
You got 0.51%.
Christianity was 39%.
Islam was roughly 15%.
Okay.
Hindu was what?
14.05.
Okay, play the clip.
Let it keep going, Rob.
Watch what happens here with numbers.
And look at the spike on where every year you see Jews dropping a percent.
Do you see it?
Went from 0.51 to 0.49 to 0.4%.
They get smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller every year.
So it's not going to be popular with a lot of different people.
Christianity, every year, smaller and Islam, every year, bigger and bigger.
They just cracked 20, okay?
Every year.
Judaism, 0.23%.
Okay.
And it goes smaller.
Christianity is now at 30% In 2011.
It's like horse racing.
And you see Islam coming up, coming up, coming up, coming up.
And look at the difference now.
Atheist in third place now.
You went from 39%, 15%.
The difference was what?
Go back to the ending, Rob.
Just go all the way to the ending of this.
I can't fast forward.
If you click on it once, it should let you go on the bottom and go to the end.
Like, you know how you go to the bottom of it?
Like, if you put, yeah, it should doesn't let you do it on Instagram that allows you to do it.
Okay.
Let me just go here at the end to show you what it goes to because it'll be tough for you to pause it.
When you get to the end, Vinny, at the beginning, the difference was 24% difference between Christians and Muslims.
Okay?
Do you know what it is at the end today?
You know what the difference is?
No.
5%.
29 to 24%.
Rob, I'll send this to you if you want to just put the screenshot up there for people to see.
What does this say?
From a competitive standpoint, as a guy who's a competitor, you know what I say?
Good for them.
You're competing.
You're out producing kids.
And you're converting and you're sharing your message.
You're playing offense.
Judaism went from 0.51 to 0.18%.
When they say, like, you know, they're getting small.
They're taking over.
They're taking over the world.
25%.
Islam's change 0.26 beats all of Jews around the world.
Just to kind of put that in perspective, Christianity went from 39 to 29.
Islam went from 15 to 24.
The gap is five.
That's 2023.
At this pace, they'll be passing it up in no time.
And they want to bring that message to a city near you.
They want to make America like Dearborn.
Maybe some of you guys want that.
Maybe to some it's okay.
But the reason why America excelled so good and next year we're celebrating 250 years was because if you came to America, you came here for the values and principles.
You didn't come to America to change it.
I came to America saying, I freaking love this country.
All this stuff that you guys gave me, I want to freaking support it and I want to lift it up.
Let's go.
Others come here and they're like, no, no, no, we're going to make this like our country.
And unfortunately, some people, even on the independent and the conservative side, they sit there and they say nothing because they're frightened.
They're scared.
What if?
What if this?
What if that?
When that score is 35 to 25 and now we're behind 10 and your life is changing.
And in the school, it's not about LGBTQ.
The school changes its laws to have it being ran by different sects on the Muslim side.
In America, then it's too late.
You can't turn on.
UK, London?
You know what's going to take to fix London?
UK?
What is it going to take to fix UK?
What do you think?
Revolution is going to take to fix UK Thompson.
They're finished.
They're done.
It's going to take an amazing resurgence.
How do you do it?
Jesus Christ has to come back.
He literally has to come back.
They're done, Pat.
Where the Pakistani rape gangs were, they just named the first, the mayor, Roddingham or something.
It's a female Muslim chick.
Did you see it, Rob?
She put the new mayor, new mayor Roddingham or something like that?
Of what?
Of the city?
There's one girl that just, somebody was just named the new mayor.
Carola Shutin is the current mayor of Rotterdam.
New chick.
Was elected October of 2024.
What are you thinking?
They're taking over.
It's over.
It's over.
Oh, this is it.
The mayor of Rotherham.
Rob, R-O-T-H-E-R-H-A-M.
Mayor of Rotherham.
Rotherham Mayor.
She's on, it's on X. Rotherham Mayor.
That's the new chick right there.
Put that.
Right there.
That's the new mayor.
Boom.
That's her.
They're taking over.
It's over.
It's a wrap.
By the way, again, from a competitive standpoint.
Yeah, good.
I have so much respect from the competitive standpoint.
But from the other side, if you think you can sit there and negotiate with Iran, specifically Iran, on what Khamenei...
Khamenei is not MBS.
Don't get it twisted.
Khamenei is not MBS.
They're not in the same level of people.
He is not MBS.
Can I ask you one question?
Yeah, sure.
That number that you're showing is staggering.
It's inevitable, unless something major happens that they're going to take over.
Then at what point does it get to where they're going to be able to vote?
Do you think that this will happen?
A Muslim president of a Christian nation.
When does that happen?
Do you remember when, who was the first Catholic president we had in America?
It was JFK.
JFK.
Prior to JFK, what did America say?
Roman Catholic.
The headlines.
Roman Catholic to be our president?
Prior to being a Roman Catholic, what did America say about a Catholic becoming a president?
It would never happen.
It would never happen.
I was watching Godfather last night.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, before running out.
And you know what the part is?
Where he's sitting there with that guy that comes and so you want the gambling permits, huh, to be renewed?
Not only do I want you to pay the $20,000, but I need you to also pay this, this, and that.
And guess what?
Don't you ever call me.
I don't like your type.
I don't like people like you.
You come here from Italy, da-da-da-da.
Don't you ever call me, right?
And I need an answer tomorrow.
He says, hey, I just want to let you know, I don't have an answer for you today.
Number one, not only will I not pay you, and I will not pay the $20,000, but da-da-da-da-da.
I want you to.
And he walks up there.
Oh my God, how you doing?
I didn't know you guys.
Okay.
Guess what?
They said they didn't like his type, but John F. Kennedy became president.
A black man will never be president.
A black man became president.
And his middle name is what?
Hussein.
Hussein.
So we already kind of have had a Muslim president if you think about it.
I don't know what other way to put Hussein would be.
Barack Hussein Obama.
Yeah, he's a socialist.
If you go from there to now saying we won't have it, I think it's running.
Very likely.
I think we're a few decades away, but we'll get that the way it's going right now.
If they allow this to continue.
I don't see them stopping it.
That's why what Trump is doing right now is so important.
He's basically making friends in certain countries in the Middle East, but also calling out the people that we need to basically keep an arms distance with.
I totally appreciate what Trump is doing at the universities because we see what is happening there in the universities and the ideological leftism, which somehow becomes jihadism on the right and that inconvenient marriage.
Have you not noticed the horseshoe theory intersecting between the far left socialist Marxists and the far right Islamist fundamentalists happening on campus and all around the world?
What the hell is gays for Gaza?
Because if you're gay in Gaza, you're going to get thrown off a roof.
What the hell is queers for Palestine?
Show me queers in Palestine.
Matter of fact, show me any, and I mean any marches or protests occurring in the Middle East.
I'll wait.
Show me any.
But they're going on in soft, tolerant cities all around the world.
London, Paris, Brussels, Belgium, Oslo.
Everything.
Hold on.
Give this person some credit.
Hang on one second.
But let me play this clip.
What do you have?
I'm going to show it to you.
Hang on.
I want to show you this to you.
Watch your language when you say stuff like that.
Okay.
Because there are Muslim transgenders out there, and there's nothing wrong with that.
And let me show you.
In Islamic countries?
Let me just show you this.
You have some respect, man.
My bad.
Put some respect behind this.
Okay, there you go, Rob.
I see her.
Stand before you all as a proud Kashmiri trans Muslim woman and disabled, and this state hates that.
This state has banned trans and disabled people to smoke screen.
Palestine cannot go to God saying that, like there's a reason that this person, this sick, twisted person, clearly on the very very, very far left, he has nice is so aligned.
Issues are not Islamist Jihadist, right like what look this dude in a dress and high heels who's basically saying that he's got issues.
You know how expensive that is for a Middle Eastern?
What is this queers for?
Uh Palestine, what is this gays for?
Like, walk me through this.
So at the core of it, in my opinion, is a few things.
Number one, they hate Western values, they hate capitalism and they hate the United States.
They hate anyone associated with the United States.
You know what the enemy of the enemy is, my friend?
They believe in revolution above reason.
There's no reason with this gal right here, this full-figured lady um.
They are all about decolonialization and critical race theory and victimhood mentality and the oppressed versus the oppressor and armed resistance, no matter what.
And they're the stupid idiots that are the ones shouting river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
What river and what sea?
I don't even know bro, I don't even know.
So they're completely unaligned ideologically, but that they meet in the middle on complete absurdity.
And here's example, a yeah well, I mean, look there's a.
There's a lot we can talk about here.
I am sure i'm going to be flooded with messages, but these ideologies you negotiate with is very different than Mbs and some of the other places.
Khamenei is not Mbs, but Trump is going out there meeting with the Syria.
You know the guy, the president of Syria.
First time in 25 years, he's trying to show Iran that we can negotiate with you as well.
Iran came back and told you, they're not capable of negotiating because they want death upon America, death upon England, death upon everybody.
Okay, and you know why.
Mbs is not that person Mbs.
One of the first things he did when he came into office and there's some things you can criticize about his human rights going on, Saudi he's went to the Wahhabiism people, basically some of the people that were going on involved in 9-11, and he's like, no no no no, cut it out, you're done.
Anyone affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood?
Cut it out, you're done.
So again, not everyone believes in this, but a big percentage do no.
And they're coming to a city near you.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
And by the way here's, uh, Gorka Rob, if you can play this clip.
Gorka's at a political event and at this political event, the lady's asking him a question and he goes on a two-minute rant so good on her, which is absolutely a clinic.
You just got to watch this.
By the way, Gorka's a very tall, big man sitting there giving this message, just watch this.
It's a beautiful thing.
Go ahead, rob a member of Al-Qaeda.
If you're a member of Al-Qaeda, you're a terrorist.
How do you know if that there are members of these gangs?
What I'm saying, The tattoos MS-13 on our knuckles doesn't help.
Doesn't help her.
Do you have tattoos of al-Qaeda?
The tattoo did not say MS-13.
I don't want to get into that.
Of course, it does.
It's just accidents that the four symbols represent the letters MS13.
This is why Politico is a joke.
This is why you are gutter press and fake news.
That those four symbols that just happen to comport with the letters MS and the numbers 13 don't in this case represent MS-13.
You're sitting here live defending a member of MS-13.
That's why I regret coming here because this isn't journalism.
This is protecting those who hate America.
Shame on you.
We are saving lives.
Saving lives.
How about Maryland fathers compared to Maryland mothers?
Like Rachel Marin, mother of five, raped and murdered and thrown in a ditch.
How about Jocelyn Nogare, aged 12, raped a mile from her home and thrown in a ditch?
It's strange that Politico doesn't do articles about her, that mother, or that 12-year-old girl.
Why is that?
Why is the MS-13 guy with the knuckle tattoos more important in terms of due process than the lives of 12-year-old girls brutally raped?
It's weird that the priorities shift to defending the member of an FTO, but not the children and the women.
Dan Crenshaw told me a story once of a 16-year-old girl who came, was smuggled across this border.
The parents paid $5,000 for her to live in America, the land of milk and honey.
She ended up locked in a room in New York, raped by more than a dozen men every day for 18 months until she escaped.
She went to Dan Crenshaw's office, and I'm no friend of Dan Crenshaw's, okay?
He's still got TDS.
And that girl said to him, Please close the border so another girl doesn't have to be raped by 12 strange men every day for 18 months.
It's strange that Politico doesn't cover those stories.
Could you tell me why?
We have covered.
No, you haven't.
You have not covered those stories.
I'd like to see the Jocelyn Nungare, Rachel Marin stories in comparison to the Russia-Russia collusion garbage.
I mean, let's be honest.
Let's move on.
You have an agenda.
I mean, he just moved on because I'll move on because I thought I was in a movie theater just watching, bro.
I love Sebastian, just bodied her.
And did you hear the audience groan in the beginning?
And then it was just crickets.
Yeah, Tom, your thoughts.
Hey, you know what?
When faced with truth, when you put a bright light on truth, guess what happens?
It's very, very hard to spin the darkness.
And that's what the reason she is speechless in the face of, and why wouldn't, you know, reporters interrupt.
Reporters become shrill.
Reporters turn up the volume.
You wait right there.
You stop right there.
We've seen it on CNN.
We've seen it with Scott goes through.
And Gorka's just laying her out, just boom, you know, and that's it.
And so he's putting facts in her face, and it's true.
You know, but this is how Politico managed it, unfortunately.
And Dasha Burns there was left unarmed because there is nothing.
You know, she's sitting there like, what am I supposed to say?
And she's trying to put a little spin at the end.
Well, let's move on.
That's all she's got is let's move on because the bright light of truth showed up in the reality of what Politico was about on these kind of stories and giving due process to this guy.
Really?
Come on.
Benny.
I mean, it still boggles my mind that they're not going to shift.
Adam makes a good point.
Like with gaze for God's like, where's your mind at?
Like, what makes you think that that's like cool?
Like, and the same thing with Politico and all that, all MSNBC, CNN, they have been sticking up for that.
By the way, we're still kind of talking about an MS-13 gang member that was here illegally, that was beating his wife, that left, and they sent on our tax dollar Democrat congressman, flew there, made huge scenes on our tax dollars to try to get this guy back.
They were fighting for a domestic terrorist.
And then, by the way, Alina Haba just pressed charges on some, who was it, Tom?
On a representative from New Jersey who broke into the Newark ICE detention facility.
I have the video if you want to.
Yeah, Bob, think about this.
They're fighting, fighting, literally fighting for illegals.
And there wasn't one peep of any compassion for the girls.
And there was a bunch of them.
Mind you, thank God because of Trump.
You haven't, when's the last time you heard of an illegal raping and murdering a girl and throwing her in a ditch and silence from MSNBC?
It hasn't been happening because he closed the border, but this is a shame that they're fighting for gang members.
But when it comes to American girls, they can care less.
And shame on political.
That's why I'm happy they're all at one point going to be finished, gone.
CNN, MSNBC, all of them.
Think about it.
The only reason people are watching Abby Phillips, if you really think about it, is why.
Honestly.
Who would watch that show?
It's because Scott Jennings, Tom?
Vinny, when you only have three cards in your deck, that's the only card you play.
Yeah, you're 100% right.
You're 100% right.
They have nothing to fight for.
They have nothing to stand on.
This is sort of the ongoing conversation of are we prioritizing illegals or newcomers?
Are we prioritizing American citizens?
There's been an ongoing debate of the left and the right, which clearly Trump won, of why the hell are we keeping this border open or why are we giving money out to illegal citizens?
Why are we giving health care to these people while we're basically treating our own citizens as second-class citizens?
You know where it's the most poignant?
The most poignant are in the inner cities like Chicago.
Have you seen how frustrated African-American black Americans are with their government?
They're like, what do you mean that you're providing these illegal immigrants with money?
What about us?
The maddest people with the most to say are African Americans in inner cities like Chicago.
They are fed.
What is this?
This is La Monica McIver.
She is a Democratic representative from the state of New Jersey.
This is her pushing an ICE official trying to break into the ICE detention facility.
And now she has been charged by the state of New Jersey.
Can you see it?
Alina Haba.
According to reports, she's the one in the red.
Who is she pushing?
She's hitting the ICE official.
She's a big girl, too.
That was a fullback right there, buddy.
And yeah, why?
She's swinging on him.
This is an attorney.
This is funny.
Come for the photo ops state for the felony.
And guess what, though?
Alina Haba has officially charged her with assaulting, impeding, and interfering with law enforcement.
That's assault.
And that's what they get.
And on a lighter note, Pat, Tom, I know me and you talk about this.
The Supreme Court just gave a green light for Trump to end temporary protective status for over 320,000 Venezuelans, which is great.
And then the lower courts try to block Trump from ending it, calling it discrimination.
The Supreme Court voted 8-1 ruling.
And guess who was the only one that voted against it?
Okay.
Katanji Brown Jackson, the one that Biden probably doesn't even know that he put in there.
So there's another win for Donald Trump and the American people.
320,000 elite people that are not supposed to be here are going back home.
Thousands of Venezuelans?
320,000.
I want to ask you, is one Chilean on that list?
Oh, no.
It might be.
He might be.
He might be.
Can we go check if he's out there?
No, no, no.
I'm just asking.
Asking a basic question, we'll check it out.
Let's leave that Chilean.
There we go.
Let's leave that guy alone.
By the way, did you see JD Vance address all the illegals this weekend in that interview?
Did you happen to see that?
Was he on an airplane?
No, he was sitting down.
I don't know if you can find this, Rob, but they were having a conversation.
And, you know, the interview was like, it was like sitting in a room.
I don't know.
Maybe it's that, that might be it right below, where she's basically like, right below it, Rob.
It's not at that point.
She says, you know, he's like, you know, she's like, what do we do with that?
We need more housing in this country.
How are we going to build houses?
And he goes, yeah, well, we probably shouldn't have, you know, 10 to 20 million illegals.
That's probably messing with the housing.
And then she kind of boldly goes, well, how are we going to build all the houses if we kick out the illegals?
And he goes, I'm objecting to the premise of this conversation.
Are you trying to say, there it is right there?
Are you trying to say that Americans can't build houses and we need illegals to basically build our housing?
Here it is.
Play this clip.
Yeah, just so you know, this is from, I believe, October.
Yeah, that's not new.
Okay, but it's true.
It is true.
There is a housing crisis, is that not enough houses have been built.
And that we have 25 million people who should be here.
Well, I mean, this is the thing.
I think it's both.
I know you do.
I don't think that many people who look into this agree with you, but about a third of the construction workforce in this country is Hispanic.
Of those, a large proportion are undocumented.
So how do you propose to build all the housing necessary that we need in this country by removing all the people who are working in construction?
How do we function as a society without having illegal?
That's a question because we know that back in the 1960s when we had very low levels of illegal immigration, Americans didn't buy houses, didn't build houses.
Sarcasm, but of course they did.
And I'm being sarcastic, of course, in service of a point, Lulu, the assumption that because a large number of home builders now are using undocumented labor, that that's the only way to build homes.
I think, again, the country is much bigger.
The need is much bigger.
I mean, I'm not arguing in favor of illegal immigration.
I'm asking you.
You actually are.
It's not just a proposal to remove millions of people.
So that's the disingenuous of these interviewers right here.
What is that?
Americans should be working.
Like, how about Americans go build those houses?
Hire Americans.
Look, her premise was, she's like, how are we supposed to function as a society and build houses without the illegals, you idiot?
And he's like, because you needed a house?
Yeah.
Well, let me show this.
I mean, obviously, when you're seeing stuff like this, common sense is going to prevail.
By the way, it's interesting seeing the race right now between Florida, California, Texas, and New York hats.
Okay.
It's on fire.
I guess who's number one?
Who do you think is California?
Well, number one is for the merch, for the hats, the V team merchants.
I'm going with New York.
Remember, the Florida ones are limited out of 250.
New York.
All the other are limited supplies.
The Florida ones are 99.
The other ones are 34.
But even with that, let me tell you who's number one.
Number one right now is Florida.
All right.
Like I said, Florida, baby.
I'm with you, Callie.
Callie's number two.
Who's three?
Texas or New York?
Texas.
Texas.
Texas is three.
Yeah.
And New York is like, hey, New York, wake up.
Snow the coffee.
California is just waking up right now.
It's 7:30, New York.
Where you at?
New York.
I'm walking right now.
And by the way, a lot of other states are saying, hey, man, how about us?
How about us?
If we get a lot of emails from different states, we will entertain other states.
Right now, we're just targeting the four states that watch the podcast.
How about New Jersey?
They like Trump more than they like their own governor.
Yeah, they do.
But I want to go to this video that came out that's been retweeted all over the place.
I think Yilan also retweeted this about Chinese new plane.
Okay.
SSUAV spooks U.S. challenges.
It's air superiority, but can it outfly latest air defenses?
That's the question.
Economic Times.
Rob, if you got this clip here to show that new China plane that is on there, I think maybe even I retweeted it, but if you have it, just kind of share it.
It may not be on my, but you should have it in the notes.
I have it.
So China is SSUAV, a super high-altitude drone with 15,000 ceiling and 4,000 kilometer range, capable of carrying over 100 small drones or 1,000 kilogram of missiles.
is set to undertake its first mission by June and raising concerns in the U.S. about its challenge to its air superiority.
Rob, if you want to play this clip, this is what it's capable of doing.
Vinny, take a look at this.
Watch this. You unmute this music.
Rob, can you mute them?
It's like little Chinese strands, but it's like the song.
Look at that.
What do you think about that when you see that, Tom?
So here's what I think about.
The future of modern warfare, people aren't going to like this, but this is a tool of future modern warfare.
And modern warfare will work like this.
They will penetrate air defenses and they will deploy that.
And they'll think, oh, they're going to kill all the people in the cities.
No, they're not.
They're going to go after infrastructure.
They're going to go after power grids.
They're going to after water treatment plants.
They're going after water pumping stations.
Because as soon as you do that, now you create civil unrest and you can get the government to surrender.
That's the way these things are going to work.
You're not going to have, you know, a million Chinese show up on the coast of California and invade.
It's not the way the warfare is going to work.
And increasingly, people are looking at it and thinking that you're not going to have mutually assured destruction by nuclear.
You fire one, I fire one, you fire two, I fire two.
Oh, crap, it's done.
Right.
So that war in the future will be crafts like this unmanned and controlled from afar, getting to an area and launching off and then completely disrupting everything.
Look what happened in Gaza.
No electricity, no water, no anything.
And there you have it.
You know, you brought the whole thing to its knees.
So that's what's going on.
That's what I think of.
And so think of this as a tool of the modern warfare where it's not soldiers killing each other.
It is countries trying to indecapacitate each other to get them to surrender and to take their land.
I wonder what it does, though, because you know when we talk about military-industrial complex, right?
There's two sides of the argument.
One of the arguments is what?
I want to make bombs.
People for hospital beds to be busy.
You need, you know, cancer is a $200 billion year industry.
So if you cure cancer, the $200 billion industry wipes out and it goes away.
So don't out roundup.
Right.
So what is the balance between military-industrial complex companies making money and actually preparing for a future invasion?
How do you balance those two messages out?
Well, I think what you do is if I'm Raytheon, I look at this video and I'm like, Mr. President, see, we need to make things like this as well.
So it just, it's basically, you know, opportunity meets scenario in military spending.
You paint scenarios, Pat.
That is the opportunity for me to sell into the scenario for what you'll need.
So when Raytheon sees this, they say, hey, dude, you're going to need a mass deployment device, or they'll come up with some military name for it.
An MDD.
You better have a mass deployment device that flies low under radar, gets in and then releases all these drones and then attack all their power grid, right?
So that's how it works.
But you have to create the fear.
You have to create the fear and the opportunity.
Remember, the Cold War was incredibly profitable because we went from tanks to very expensive missiles and very expensive warheads and even more expensive silos and bases and submarines to launch them.
I guess the question for me would be the following.
How do you present that argument?
Not as in if you're Raytheon or if you're Boeing or any of those guys.
How do you sell that as the president, as a person that's in office?
Here's why we need to make these investments.
How do you sell that?
I know how to sell and I'm just thinking how you would do it.
The way I sell American people, it says, it's a Cold War argument.
It says, if they're building systems like this, this is how they're going to use them.
We need to be prepared for your safety and the continuation of our country and our economy and life as we know it.
It's basically the nuclear war argument.
If they're building X, we need to build Y.
And the U.S. has always included.
And thank goodness, we have two oceans and one previously docile neighbor in Mexico and one talkative but completely harmless what do you think?
Well, is that verified that that is something that they were working on?
June, they're saying they're testing it in June, which is next month.
Okay, me personally, that doesn't phase me because of how advanced we are.
If something like that, especially, well, especially under this administration, I don't have zero worries about anything like that because our capability with laser and nuke and, like we, if something like that touched our shores Tom, it's over for China, and then I mean it might be over for for the rest of the world.
I'm I'm very, very confident, working at a nuclear missile base, that the amount of stuff that we have, the stuff that we'll never know, you'll never know 95% of what the Pentagon and what are like.
They're posting this video whatever, if China puts that anywhere near us, it's a full-on war to them.
Because Tom nailed it, they hit them, they hit the water, they hit the energy, they hit electricity.
It's, it's a wrap, it's a wrap.
But think about it, the last administration, China could have flown that thing over our country.
They wouldn't have done shit.
No seriously, they were flying balloons, they were flying this.
They're buying land.
You could have done anything.
This is a whole different situation with Trump and Pete Hex said, but that honestly doesn't worry me because of what we have, period.
Yeah, I just think for me Uh, to to sit there and be that confident about what someone could do to us without us being paranoid.
And we saw what happened in Covid.
You know, are we ready for a cyber attack?
No no, absolutely.
Are we ready for them taking down the financial system for a week?
What would that do to the economy?
What would that do to communities?
Are we ready if we don't have power and you can't go buy food?
And what percentage of people have stockpiles of food and stuff in their place to be ready for it?
I don't know if we're ready for that.
Do you think they have the capabilities to do things like that?
Yeah, so you know.
My challenge is, uh why, like that video that I played earlier, where the guy said, no, you're liberal in our country.
We don't believe in your values.
You can't come and pitch your values in our country.
No, we are not okay with that, but we're okay coming to you because you allow us to do it right.
That gives me the vibes, what that guy said, to what China does.
We want to come into your country and sell us our products and the stuff that we're building for you, but you can't come to our country.
No, no, we only want to come to you.
No, you can't come to our country and convert Muslims into Christians, but we're coming to you.
No, you can't come in our country and open up Facebook, YouTube, but we're coming to you.
We're going to come TikTok your kids.
We're going to come and teach.
So that is the part where military, when I see stuff like this, the drone, by the way, a drone attack, you got 50,000 drones in there.
You saw these drone shows that they do all this stuff, how quickly it changes and all the stuff that's going on.
So you look at the sky, there's 50 drones coming your way.
What are you doing?
It's over.
No, no, but what do you like?
What is the military doing?
50,000 drones come and all of a sudden they go this wide.
I mean, there's a lot of stuff that we need to be thinking about on what's possible, what's capable.
All I'm saying is only the paranoid survive.
I would, you know, FYI, how long has he been the president?
How many days?
119, 170.
119 days, say 120 days, whatever that is.
Something like that.
You think just because he's been president 120 days, we already have all the right capabilities.
What happened last four years prior to him?
Did we make the right investments?
I don't know.
I know the first four years, he was making some heavy investments to make the military better, but there was a big four-year break.
We got work to get back to it.
I don't trust.
I don't trust what China is doing behind closed doors.
Nobody trusts China.
Go for it.
Well, I firmly believe in the Reagan doctrine, which is peace through strength.
Are you freaking kidding me?
When you look at what we're spending on our defense, I think in line items, our defense budget is almost a trillion dollars right behind interest that we're paying on the debt, which is also a trillion dollars, which goes behind our Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and everything like that.
But if you add up all the other countries, I think the next 10 to 15 countries after what we're spending in the budget, Rob, there you go, right there.
United States, almost $968 billion, almost a trillion dollars.
So if you add up China, Russia, Germany, the UK, India, Saudi, France, what other countries are that, Rob?
Japan, South Korea, Australia, Italy, Israel, Ukraine, which we're funding, and Poland.
It doesn't even equal what the United States is spending on budget.
So if we don't have the best, dopest, most high-tech weaponry out there, then what the hell are we spending our money on?
How much corruption is happening?
So we better have all this that China's doing and then some.
Top gun shouldn't just be a movie.
We should have all that stuff ready at our disposal.
Yeah.
Well, we'll see.
We'll see what's going to happen here.
I'm more about playing offense than sitting there worried about what's going to happen.
So, okay, let's go to this story about India and China.
Tom, I want to go to this.
So the whole tariff conversation that's taking place, right?
Trump says China would have broken apart if we don't do the deal.
Won't do deals with everyone.
He's trying to say like he's saving the economy, which is what Tom said the other day.
So let me read this.
During an interview aired on Friday, broadcast on Fox News channel, special report, President Trump stated that he won't.
Is this it, Rob?
Yes.
Go ahead and play this clip.
Go for it.
We can't hear it, Rob.
People.
I've got 150 countries that want to make deals.
You know, you have a lot of countries.
The market was really happy with the China situation and the sit-down.
They were.
And you know, Treasury Secretary.
If I didn't do that deal with China, I think China would have broken apart, not us, them.
We weren't going to break.
We're not going to break.
They would have broken apart.
You know, our country has a lot of spirit.
And you know why?
Because of November 5th.
Okay, so he's saying that, Tom.
And then right afterwards, Rob, if you have the Indiana, India clip, not Indiana, India clip.
Yes, right here.
About the iPhones.
And apparently something happened with, go for it, with Tim Cook.
Go ahead.
And we have Apple, as you know, it's coming in.
And I had a little problem with Tim Cook yesterday.
I said to him, Tim, you're my friend.
I treated you very good.
You're coming here with $500 billion, but now I hear you're building all over India.
I don't want you building in India.
You can build in India if you want to take care of India, because India is the highest, one of the highest tariff nations in the world.
It's very hard to sell into India.
And they've offered us a deal where basically they're willing to literally charge us no tariff.
So we go from the highest tariff, you couldn't do business in India.
We're not even a top 30 in India because the tariff is so high, to a point where they have actually told us, I assume you too.
Scott, you were working on that also, that there will be no tariffs, right?
Would you say that's a difference?
They're the highest, and now they're saying no tariff.
But I said to Tim, I said, Tim, look, we've treated you really good.
We put up with all the plants that you built in China for years.
Now you've got to build us.
We're not interested in you building in India.
India can take care of themselves.
They're doing very well.
We want you to build here, and they're going to be upping their production in the United States.
So Apple's already in for 500 billion, but they're going to be upping their production.
So it'll be great.
Okay, Tom, that's powerful, by the way.
It's very powerful.
It's very powerful.
So China, India, Apple thoughts, Tom.
Well, there's a waterfall here, and there's two things going on in the water.
The first thing over the waterfall is obviously the administration loves the fact that Apple, starting going back 2018, started moving things to India.
So they love the fact that China is losing market share on manufacturing of Apple and things are going to India because Foxconn and there's a lot of things going on and Apple was trying to manage its risk.
They love that.
There are a little myth, there's a little subtext going below the surface here in that China and Pakistan, a little blow-up they had on the border.
India didn't completely cooperate with us.
Pakistan didn't completely cooperate with us and they got their little ceasefire.
So there's a little poke to India going below the surface here.
I don't want you building all the extra stuff there.
I want you to build the stuff here.
With India saying, wait a minute, a minute ago, you were happy that we were taking manufacturing from China.
Well, I want you to have some of it, but you're also kind of annoying me a little bit.
So there is, Pat, below the surface, there is a poke at India that happened in all this.
Like, hang on, dude, you're listening to me, please.
Thank you.
And then he does want factories in the U.S. Look, they have automated assembly factories that have very little overhead and very few people.
He says, put that in America.
Put that in America.
And guess what?
Buy the electricity from the America.
Hire the construction workers in America to build that facility.
And then you're going to have people there because it's fairly automated and they're going to be U.S. wages, but it's a highly automated factory.
But buy the supplies here, build the thing here, do it here.
Where's our part of this?
So he's pointing out to Tim Cook, saying, look, this is not a pure human manufacturing game anymore, Tim.
I want you to build something here.
Although I'm glad you're moving and you're taking stuff out of China and reducing the reliance on China.
Meanwhile, India says, I thought it was good.
I was getting all the, I was getting the, I had a winning hand on here.
Yeah, but you need to listen to me about this Pakistan thing.
And you didn't listen as much as I wanted you to.
So there is a couple things going on here, Pat, but the lead one was he was unafraid to look at Tim Cook and say, build some of that here.
And it's not about the manufacturing jobs.
It's all about all the jobs they're going to build the factory itself.
So here's my question.
If he does agree to do it, I know we talked about the prices going up.
What is Tim Cook's incentive to come and do it here?
Is he going to make, is he going to charge us more for the phone and that's how he's going to make his money?
Is that what's going to happen?
I think the phones, well, it depends on which products you're talking about.
Like, does he just, what do they build here?
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Do they build the iPhones here?
Do they build iPods here?
I mean, earpods.
What do they build?
Yeah.
Right.
Some of the stuff that's more labor-intensive.
It'll be much more expensive if it's built here.
However, there's things they can build and there's things they can do that would not be, you know, lethally expensive.
You know what I'm saying?
That it just kills the market for it.
I'm not paying three grand for an iPhone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a part of this that, I mean, obviously, here's what he's saying.
A part of when you're watching him saying, hey, I don't want you to go build 60 million phones in India.
What are you doing?
A part's like, well, maybe he wants a little bit of it to go to China because now that he's doing the new deal, he wants to make it.
That's not what he's saying.
He's saying, no, I want you to bring it here.
Because if you're transferring 60 million phones being made from China to India, guess what you're not doing?
You're not creating the jobs here.
You're just moving it from one place to another place that still the jobs are not created here.
I want you to create the company.
I'm not a little dent in China, but that's it.
But the part that I like is that he has that relationship with Tim Cook and the way he does it in the field.
There's ways when you're building an agency where it's like, look, I don't agree.
We have a very good relationship, but I don't agree with the fact that he's doing this.
What's that all about?
Why are you building all that over there?
He's publicly calling him out.
Phil Jackson used to do this.
Certain coaches used to do this with their players.
And Tim Cook is one of his main players.
It's the biggest company he's got in America.
It's them.
Who else is bigger than them?
Microsoft and them compete for number one spot, right, Tom?
It's Microsoft and Apple are competing for number one spot.
The 3 trillion club.
Yeah, the 3 trillion club.
But I love that he's pushing and imposing to say, bring those jobs to the states.
Adam.
Yeah, Apple's the number one company in the world, over a $3 trillion market cap.
And our primary focus right now should still be on China.
Everything that's happening with the tariffs, you know, whether we're going to break China or not.
But we created this mess that we're dealing with China.
We have ourselves to blame, starting with Nixon and his conchrement with Mao, aligning ourselves with the Chinese over the Russians during the Cold War and then everything that happened with that.
And the World Trade Organization under Clinton and under Bush.
But, you know, all our manufacturing jobs got shipped to China and essentially we're a consumer-based economy.
So we're buying a ton of stuff, ton of stuff, ton of stuff from China.
But slowly but surely, we're realizing this, that Apple actually helped build China's economy more than anybody.
So, you know, there was a great interview on the Daily Show.
Jon Stewart interviewed this guy, award-winning journalist Patrick McGee.
And here's what they talked about.
He wrote a book called Apple in China, The Capture of the World's Greatest Company.
So they say this, that the award-winning journalist Patrick McGee joins Jon Stewart to discuss how Apple built China in his new book, Apple in China, the capture of the world's greatest company.
They talk about Apple sleepwalking into this crisis, building a competitive market in Xi Jinping's authoritarian state, the vocational training that boosted rivals, how Trump attempted Apple's boycott, backfired, and whether investments may be facilitating the annexation of Taiwan.
Long story short, Apple, in many respects, built China as what it is today.
So now they're exiting stage left and trying to basically do their dirty work in India.
And we all understand why we need to get out of China.
But here's this article right here saying the U.S. will have India as their country of origin for iPhones.
And in the third quarter, almost all iPads, Macs, Apple Watches, AirPads will be sold into the U.S. will originate from Vietnam.
And I think what Trump is saying is, America first, bring the jobs back to America.
But Apple, you know, they made their money basically by giving China a ton and ton of money.
They were talking about in the interview.
I encourage you to go watch it.
How much money poured into China was more than what the Marshall Plan did to Europe per capita after World War II.
And a massive amount of money into China came from Apple.
Yeah.
Last clip I want to play, Rob.
If you can play this clip of Dan Bongino and Kash Patel, the two of them, they're sitting there being asked about Epstein.
I don't know if you have this clip or not.
There's a clip of the two of them.
Maybe we'll play this one and then Stephen A. Smith then will wrap it up.
Do you know which one I'm talking about, Rob?
I have it right here.
So if you can play this clip, so they're being asked about Epstein, and then Dan answers as well.
Go ahead and please, I'm going to get the team's reaction here.
Go for it.
You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
People don't believe it.
Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was.
He killed himself.
Again, you want me to get?
I've seen the whole file.
He killed himself.
I know it's hard work.
Well, I guess case closed, guys.
Hey, guess what?
I guess we figured out.
I love Dan Bongino.
Dan Bongino looks like he didn't want to.
He killed himself.
He killed him.
How much do you believe them, Vinny?
Adam, I work for the intelligence.
Dan Bongino, high credibility in your eyes, right?
Anything that Hesper said with an Epstein, I don't even know what the hell to believe from anybody anymore.
And to be honest with you, killed himself, whatever.
I don't, at this point.
He fixed himself.
Exactly.
Thank you.
I don't care.
Do you know what I care about?
Ghelain Maxwell and all the people that she knows and all the customers and all the 10,000, by the way, tens of thousands of hours of Epstein and his people having sex with underage children.
Where are the people?
I want arrests.
I want those people.
Kill himself.
That's that's okay.
We're not stupid.
We know what happened.
If they say he killed himself, whatever.
Maybe they gave him an ultimatum, Adam.
Maybe they're like, hey, listen, we're going to shut the cameras off.
You at least better do it or else it's going to be hell or high water for you.
So maybe I don't know.
I don't care at this point.
I want the customers.
I want the people that were at that island.
I want the people that were on those tapes.
I want them exposed.
This doesn't mean, this doesn't do anything for me.
I don't believe anybody anymore.
I don't.
I actually don't.
I mean, that's who I want.
That's what I think the people want.
I think everybody out there wants to know who are the people that were there.
If Ghelane Maxwell is in jail for selling and sex trafficking girls, human beings, where are all the customers?
You can't arrest Tom for being a drug kingpin and no other arrests are made.
It doesn't make any sense.
This I don't care about.
I know that was a close one.
Don't expose me.
Yeah.
But you don't care about that Jeffrey Epstein.
Kill himself because you know what, Adam?
We're never going to know.
All the stuff that lined up, the cameras were off.
The guard was gone.
His cellmate was on.
I don't care.
We're never going to find out.
I want the people that were hooking up with kids.
If I may, I don't want to weigh in on you guys going back and forth.
But I'm going to say this.
Did Hitler kill himself?
We don't know.
Hours before, somebody else was probably going to do it for him.
Yeah, probably.
So did Epstein hear that, okay, look, the thing that went down in Florida, you got out of that.
There's no getting out of this one.
That's it.
It's not where it's going.
And you know what?
You got a couple choices here.
You know, you're going to get it or you can take the way out and do it yourself.
Well, there's a lot of people that think that Adolf Hitler ended up in Argentina as well as a bunch of other Nazis.
Pretty, pretty.
Okay, well, then step back from that one.
I mean, how many hanging out?
How many cornered serial killers or cornered killers off themselves moments before the police are finally going to come through the door, right?
We see that all the time.
It's the cheap way out for the killer who doesn't want to go to prison and doesn't want to be arrested and doesn't want to be taken alive.
You'll never take me alive.
What you're saying is, Tom, that whether he did it himself or someone else is going to do it, it was inevitable.
Yes, that's what I think.
That's what I think.
And there are other people out there that seem to think that.
So could Cash and Bongino both are friends of the podcast?
We talked to them, just full disclosure.
But, you know, could they be, are they speaking the truth about it?
Yeah, I'd like to think that both of those guys that we think highly of are speaking the truth.
However, in speaking the truth, it's okay.
Why did he do it at that time?
And then it sure seems pretty convenient that cameras go off and things changed in the detention center.
That happened.
Those cameras were off.
The guard moved.
The roommate went to another cell.
There's some things that happened there that aren't explained.
And say, okay, guys, that's it.
But what about the rest of your police investigation, Cash?
I'd like to hear that.
Okay, what about the rest of the circumstances that went down with the guards, with the cameras, with everything else?
What about the rest of the circumstances?
Even though you and Bongino were saying, we've seen the pictures, we've seen the file, we're looking in there.
That is a suicide, no signs of struggle.
That, okay, I'm calling that.
Okay, what about everything else?
I want to see the full explanation.
It seems highly questionable.
By the way, you know who weighed in on this whole Epstein thing was Elon Musk.
Do you have that clip, Rob?
Yep, right here.
Yeah, Vinny just texted it.
Okay, gotcha.
Yeah, this is weird.
Did you see this?
Yeah.
I do want to ask you about USAID and the comments that Bill Gates made the other day, which I know that you called him.
Yeah, he's a huge liar.
I know.
You've said that already.
Oh, he's a good person.
I wanted it.
And I'm just thinking.
Who does Bill Gates think he is to make comments about the welfare of children, given that he is a frequenter Jeffrey Epstein?
Okay, well, wow.
Applause break.
He said he regrets those.
I wouldn't trust that guy to be able to do that.
He spent a lot of time.
I wouldn't trust him to take a look at my kids.
My question to you is, have you looked at the data to check if he might be right that the cuts to USAID might cost millions of lives?
Yes.
I'd like him to show us any evidence whatsoever that that is.
I do.
You notice her.
She's like, yeah, but he helped so much to build Melinda Gates and all that mother.
They're shutting that down.
They rather than that.
Bongino and Kash Patel.
The energy was very different pre-getting in the job.
Yes, sir.
Versus once they got the job.
So it's either they find out who's holding Ku hostage.
It's either they put stuff in front of them to say, here's what we have on you, which I don't think that's the one, but that's the second thing.
It's either they realize they need that to be able to control assets.
Other people are holding the people in the White House hostage, or they're just telling the truth.
And you have to believe it.
And the last one is the fact that they may have given him weapons and said, kill yourself.
So forever they could say they killed themselves to categorically make it right that they're not lying.
But he didn't kill himself.
You know, it's a different kind of a situation, you know, that he was in.
But, Adam, your thoughts, and then we'll move on to the life story.
I like how you kind of give the options here.
I filtered it down to two options.
Number one, it is the truth, or at least it's truthiness, right, that he offed himself.
Or number two, which I actually think is way more likely, is that there's a big difference between talking about what you're going to do when you get to the job versus actually seeing what the hell is going on behind the scenes when you get the job as the FBI director.
So, my assumption, never had the opportunity to be the FBI director.
I know you chat GPT'd like what qualifications on a daily basis.
You're going to see things that you never thought you would see.
And you're going to see people's names that you never thought you would see.
And some of those people may be presidents or billionaires or foreign dignitaries.
And they're going to say, listen, yeah, you might expose this name with Jeffrey Epstein, but you also might bring down half the world.
So, what do you want to do?
In my opinion, when they get this job, they see things that they didn't think that they would see and they say, yeah, yeah, he definitely killed himself.
Okay, moving on.
That's my opinion.
Yeah, I mean, we'll see.
We'll see what's going to happen.
Last but not least, Stephen A. Smith went on Vinny yesterday, posted a clip.
Rob, he just posted a note.
He posted a short clip of it as well.
If you just go on YouTube, he posted a short clip of the clip.
Like, just go to his channel right there where you are.
Just go to his channel and right there, my response.
So, this is towards Vinny, Vinny, Brace for Impact.
And this, let's, he even plays your clip of what you say.
Let's hear this.
Go for it, Rob.
Now, let me spend the rest of my time getting into the Patrick Bett David, folks, right?
This is before we get to your tweets.
I want to address some sound that I heard from the Patrick Bett David podcast regarding yours truly and my chances as a potential presidential candidate.
Listen to this, please.
I like Stephen A.
I like the sports talk.
And, you know, he's a great freaking, he's the best in the game.
You're not with it.
You're not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
Just because he didn't vote for Trump.
No, it's the flip-flop of every single person.
You're calling Stephen A a flip-flopper.
Every single one of these guys that were on the left, every guys go.
Now, from the Chanks to the Stephen A's to the Chris Cuomos to all these people, I'm not buying it at all.
Okay.
And you say this all the time.
It's the market.
What does the market want?
They're shifting because of the market.
I don't listen.
With all due respect, I'm not buying none of that shit from none of them.
Okay.
Because they were still on Kamala.
They were still on Biden.
True.
They're still on that anti-American bullshit sentiment.
Because if you want to put in people like Biden and you want to put in people like, if you voted for Kamala Harris, what the hell do you even stand on?
What was your thing?
Just not Trump.
So I just shifted.
All that Trump hating.
He's the worst.
He's Hitler.
I'm not saying Steven said this, but all of them, all of them were anti-Trump.
We've been saying Trump is this guy since when?
Since 2016.
We've had this guy's back.
And it's not just blind loyalty, Tom.
It wasn't that.
It was the proof in the pudding.
He came in with Russia collusion.
Obama and all these guys freaking spying on him.
He had all this shit.
He had COVID.
He had all this stuff.
A Russian asset, all that bullshit Putin talk.
All right.
And then now he's back.
Everybody voted for him.
Have I said anything wrong?
Go ahead.
Respectfully, specifically on this particular topic.
I don't give a shit what you give a shit about.
Oh, snap.
I don't give a shit what you give a shit about as it pertains to this particular subject.
Because the one here that is at least somewhat wrong, but clearly devoid of empathy or compassion or understanding is you.
In other words, Florida residents are going to be here.
I don't have the best.
Before we have to watch a commercial.
You don't have the what?
Now.
Before I get any further.
That was a nice little protection.
I love Vinny.
I do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
As I do Adam.
As I do Tom, as I do Patrick Bett Davis.
And in the interest of full disclosure, before I get any further, I got a lot of love for them and their podcast.
But I got a lot of love on a personal level for a guy by the name of Patrick Bett David, the leader of that crew, who's become a great friend and somebody that has helped me.
And I'll put it out on Front Street.
He was one of the people that I was receiving advice from when I was negotiating a couple of my contracts.
That's awesome.
So I have a personal affinity and affection for that man and Adam too.
And Adam, I got love for Adam, too.
Vinny.
We go out in these streets.
Could you calm down, please?
You think Davinn?
Yeah.
Because you act like we had to have voted against Trump for the specific reasons that you're articulating.
Good word.
The border is a primary issue with you.
We understand that.
So how could anybody possibly vote for Kamala Harris?
Well, what if their issue wasn't the border?
What if their issue was avoiding chaos?
What if their issue was not wanting a president in office that was willing to pad his own wallets and his own coffers while being the statesman that sits in the presidency of the United States of America?
What if the priority wasn't safety in the streets?
What if the priority was that they were for woke culture?
There's a bevy of reasons.
Why are you acting like everybody has to be a monolith?
Like they have to be of one set of thinking and of one mind in order to vote this way.
I watched the whole episode with you and Patrick Bette David and Adam and Tom.
Patrick Bette David, PBD, the man himself, asked you specifically, all three of them, what was your top two priorities for the election?
Each of y'all gave a different answer, a different answer.
That's right.
You talked about the economy.
PBD talked about woke culture.
Tom talked about safety in the street.
I'm sorry, the producer.
I'm sorry, behind the scenes.
Talked about safety in the streets.
Adam talked about the borders.
And I forgot what else.
And I'm sorry if I forgot the other part about you, Vinny.
But the point is, all of y'all had different reasons.
It's America.
You're going to have different beliefs.
So what?
So what?
Now let's get to me because I'm who you were talking about, that you lumped in with other people, even though I do appreciate you pointing out that I didn't say those incendiary things about President Trump.
I appreciate that.
Seriously.
And I got enough of love for you.
We just disagreeing on this particular issue.
I'm not monolithic in my thinking.
We live in a binary system.
There's shit I didn't like about both of them.
I have always been against woke culture.
I have always been against open borders.
I'm totally aligned with Patrick Bett David on the issue of woke culture and parental influence or lag thereof that the administration and the left were trying to impose upon the will of the American people.
How dare them?
They were wrong.
Robbie can possibly be aware of it.
By the way, he's on fire.
I love him.
And he's the one that said, calm down to me.
He said, calm down.
He's about to have a heart attack.
You're calm down now, Bob.
Are you ready for this?
And again, Stephen, I love you too, bro.
And again, when I see you, it's all good.
But you were against all that.
You were against that.
You were against the border.
You're against the war culture.
Where were you at for the four years?
I'm just very curious.
I'm hoping you could articulate.
Where were you for those four years?
You were just on the sideline.
You weren't saying anything.
You said on this show that you would rather have a president with dementia than Trump.
Think about what that says.
And now we're seeing everything that happened with all the policies and everything with him.
And it's fine.
We all have different opinions.
We all see different things.
But my question is: where were all these people at?
You, Cuomo, everybody.
Now, now it's cool to talk positive about Trump.
Everybody loves Trump.
You've called Trump a racist, a sexist multiple times on air.
You said Trump, Trump being president would be dangerous and would put Americans at risk.
Have you apologized for all those things that you said?
For making all these people worried that Trump was going to be this guy?
Does a voter have to apologize?
Does a voter?
Hang on.
He said some people didn't want chaos, and it sounded like Stephen A. was talking about that.
That was his issue.
But people didn't want chaos.
But what's it?
He's more than a voter, Tom.
Yeah, go ahead.
A voter with a massive megaphone.
Well, guess what?
Many of us are, right?
Not many.
A few of us are.
Well, there's an awful lot of people that are in the pod space where that the megaphones and the influence is a hell of a lot bigger than mainstream media.
And thank God we have the freedom of speech for that ecosystem to have grown up.
Does Stephen A have to apologize for saying, I didn't want chaos or I was objectively reacting to this?
I don't think he does.
Well, here's my thing, though.
Well, okay, Tom, here's my thing.
Kamala Harris wins the presidency, or even Biden wins, and now they do the old switcheroo.
Is Stephen A and all these people going to be pointing out all the stuff that they're pointing out now about their party?
You talked about woke and he said they were wrong.
Isn't there a small bridge to say when you wake up afterwards and you say, I was wrong about this?
100%, Tom.
But what I'm saying.
I've said that.
But here's my question, too.
And answer me.
I want an honest question.
If Kamala Harris is the president right now, is Stephen A. Smith saying any of this stuff that he's saying now?
Is he saying anything or is he staying quiet like he did for four years?
What do you think?
He's saying stuff.
About everything.
What do you mean?
About the border?
About woke?
He's been pretty clear about Woke, let's be honest.
When did it happen?
When did it happen?
He's called the data.
He just talked about a parent.
We were all at dinner and he and I talked about that.
But do you remember when he was on the view and he talked about the mandate and the one girl, Joy Behar, was like, it's not even close.
He goes, is this enough?
Listen up, woman.
Yeah, but whenever the election Trump won.
That's my point.
But yeah, Trump already won.
Yeah, that's like.
To be fair.
Yeah.
So, so it's like, all right, you had a prediction of who was going to win the game.
Okay, he's betting on the Knicks.
Turns out that Oklahoma City won.
All right, my bad.
I bet on the Knicks.
But let me explain why Oklahoma City won.
All he had to do was look at it and say, listen, I understand why Trump won.
Everyone, you know, everyone has different reasons.
He went down to different reasons that we all have different strokes for different folks.
But recognize the fact that he recognized why Trump won.
He recognized there was a mandate.
He recognized that every single basically district flipped Republican.
He recognized the fact that Trump won every single swing state.
He recognized that, yeah, my bad.
I called it wrong.
So here's my Maya Kulpa.
And, you know, let me apologize for this.
It's not like he's doubling down.
No, of course.
Would it not be worse if he was doubling down, basically saying, Trump sucks?
Why is he in office?
I actually got to give him respect to say, you know what?
Maybe I was wrong for voting for Kamala.
Here's what the American people want.
Here's what the American people want to see.
They do want to see an end to woke culture.
They do want to see.
Where was it?
Because the guy was going to be a little bit more than a person.
So you're asking where was it before?
He wasn't there yet.
Give somebody the humility and the grace.
But do you think to evolve?
Do you think that's totally fine?
And I do.
Adam, please come to the other side.
You're finally awake.
You're not calling him out.
I'm calling him out from what he did in the past.
What about what he's calling now?
I'm just curious, Adam.
The border was wide open.
Okay.
That was my number one issue.
Women were getting children, were getting raped and getting freaking murdered and thrown in ditches.
Just like it's not like he was approving of that.
COVID, lockdowns, everything.
I'm just curious because we were talking about it.
Where were all these people at when it was really a problem?
What I'm saying is, once Trump wins, everybody change their tunes.
I'm not lying.
Would you rather change their tunes?
Was what I said a lie?
That all these guys switched and now they started becoming vocal about it.
So you're pretending like they were dumb and they didn't know the border was open.
They didn't know all the woke shit.
Hold on.
They didn't know.
Adam, you make it as if Trump won and everybody went, oh, the border.
It's open.
People, that's bullshit.
That's a weak assistant.
Because you're making up actually a very good point.
Thank you.
And this is why I very, very much encourage people to get their news from different sources and different outlets.
Because if you're only getting your media from left, MSNBC, CNN, you literally have a completely different distorted reality than people who are watching anyone from Fox News or reading Breitport.
For years, because I was watching for the most part CNN, I had no idea that they had gone off the Richter scale.
I just didn't because they were basically fair and balanced under Ted Turner.
I was like, yeah.
And it's official there for sale and they're going to be spun out by the way.
Trump's a Russian asset.
And anybody with just a logical brain would be like, oh my God, look at all this evidence here.
Turns out the media was freaking lying the whole freaking time.
But you didn't know this.
So this is why I encourage to get a diverse opinion of views.
This is why people respect our show so much because we'll battle it out.
What is our one of our four major pillars?
Debate.
This is where you find the truth.
You're not going to see this on Stephen A. Smith arguing with someone like this on a typical network.
No.
Now they got Scott Jennings on CNN.
Thank goodness.
That's all he's saying.
They basically own CNN.
But a lot of people get their media outlet from one source and they just live in their echo chambers.
And by the way, it's true on both sides.
It's true on both sides.
So you're asking, well, why did they know about this?
It's because people on the left are basically saying, no, we need the open borders.
We have to have all the newcomers come into the country and they're fed a crocodile.
Exactly.
So I understand why people have this distorted sense of reality and it's the same on both sides.
PBD, I feel like you want to.
I love this.
To me, you just heard it from three of the 10 different people in America.
That's what you just heard.
There's a faction of people that are fully with Vinny.
Okay.
There are a lot of people that became you.
I have clips of you from four years ago.
You're never going to make me vote for Trump.
You are never going to make me vote for Trump.
Okay.
Guess what?
You may be the biggest.
And I know you are, but this guy may be in a very different way, a bigger supporter than you are.
Let me tell you, because to him, the way you are with Epstein and 9-11, all this stuff, he's not there.
So to him, he's more like, no, I like the way he's getting the job done.
Adam may be a bigger Trump supporter than you today, as weird as that sounds.
I know that's going to sound weird to you.
He may be a bigger supporter today.
So where am I going with this?
And then there's Stephen A., where Stephen A. is the most famous person in sports broadcasting.
Hands down.
Nobody more famous than him.
Hands down.
That is what he's done.
So in his space, he's the best of the best, right?
So for him to be a mainstream guy, still working in mainstream.
He's not a mainstream guy that's left and started his own podcast and is not tied to me.
He is in mainstream prior to getting his big check is being this vocal about politics and the contract isn't signed.
Vinny, let me tell you, I've been there when I started PBD podcast and a contract and the company wasn't sold and I'm talking politics.
Everyone told me on the money side, don't do it.
It could cost you a lot of money.
And he did that before getting the bag?
I don't know.
That's tough for him to do that.
And then now where he's saying what he's saying, I'm actually okay with it.
The only thing I tell him is the fact that when he runs, if he chooses to run as a Democrat, they will all be friends with him until they realize they can't control him.
They will destroy him.
They will try to destroy every aspect of his life.
And then eventually he's going to say, I'm going to go to the other side.
But then you come to the other side, then you're going to get a job versus actually running.
When you run from the beginning and saying, after everything I thought about, these two areas, I agree with Democrats.
I am black as a black man who was raised by a strong mother.
These are my values and principles that I'm not compromising.
And when it comes down to this, I relate to Democrats on this.
But on these seven issues, I just relate more to independents and as a Republican.
And I'm a center-right guy.
So I'm at a point right now that I can't see myself running as a person on the left.
I see myself running as a center right.
The other day, some story came out saying, I don't know, if you go on his Instagram account, he posted something.
There's a free agency position available right now on the left.
You know what that position is?
Guess what job everybody wants?
On the left.
On the left.
There's one job that's available.
You know what that job is?
Go to the top, Rob.
Joe Rogan on the left.
It's Joe Rogan.
That's it.
Stephen A. Smith is running to be Joe Rogan.
Okay.
So is he going to be the Joe Rogan on the left?
They won't let you.
They won't let you.
Because it's, in order to be the Joe Rogan of the left, you have to be willing to entertain opposing ideas.
You know, you got to have Crockett come in.
You got to have those people come in.
You got to have these people come and want to talk to you.
We'll do it.
He invited her.
He actually already invited her.
But she's got to do it.
And, you know, other people got to do it.
You know, Biden's got to come on.
Kamala's got to come on.
Joe, go get Kamala.
I mean, what do you call it?
Stephen A. Get Kamala on.
Invite Kamala on the podcast.
Let's see if she'll do it.
So the only thing I'm saying to him is while he goes through this next phase, he is, out of the 10 values in his life, my opinion, my opinion, out of the 10 values in his life, I think seven of them lean more towards independent and conservative.
Only three are Democratic.
And the three that are Democratic are from the era of John F. Kennedy, not the era of today.
Good point.
It's a very different place.
But I think he's a very necessary voice.
And Vinny, I love the fact that you're still saying what you're saying as well.
I love it.
Because I still think there's a portion of America that's there.
I just think we have to realize this is a good guy that is doing good things.
So are you.
There's a difference.
And, you know, him and I were talking.
I'm like, Vinny's a comedian.
He's a big boy.
Say whatever you want.
It's open game.
You're Vinny wrong.
Did you see that, Rob?
Go to Vinny.
He spelled it I-N-N-Y.
Come on, Stephen.
First of all, who the hell is going to know to spell Vinny as V-I-N-M-I-N?
I know.
Only a few people spend.
You spelled your name right.
By the way, PBD, you had the first podcast.
Let me show the last clip before we wrap up.
You did get a great shout-out from him.
I don't want to gloss that over.
He gave us all very nice shout-outs.
And then he said, listen, one of the guys who was instrumental in me negotiating my contract, $100 million.
I mean, he kind of gave you respect, VBA.
You got it.
I had a lot of good conversations, but this is a good guy.
I'm respecting you, Stephen Ace.
I'm a believer of him.
I'm a believer of him, and I've been for a long, long time since nobody had a clue who I was.
And I was selling small little term insurance policies back in 2002 when we found it.
Anyways, hey, last thing.
Our guy, two months ago, not two months ago, six weeks ago.
Six weeks ago, something like that.
I did a podcast.
And on the podcast, I was talking about, hey, if you got a Bronco out there, if you're from any Bronco dealership, send us a Manek.
I got a bunch of Manects, but after doing all the Manex, the one guy that worked with Vinny, I want to let Vinny show this to you guys.
You guys got to see this.
Here's Vinny.
There's a surprise for everybody with Vinny's new truck that is sick.
First of all, I want to say thank you to you, Pat, because if Pat doesn't mention this on the podcast, and if it isn't for Manect, all right, so I'm Manecting a guy.
His name is Zeus Vega.
I'm Manectim.
We're talking about politics.
We're talking about life and decisions and ups and downs.
He's a veteran out of nowhere.
I don't even know how it came up.
I mentioned the truck from SoulFlow Customs and he goes, wait, wait, wait, wait.
What?
Takes his camera, goes outside.
It's this truck, and he hooks me up.
Guys, I can't even say how he hooks me up.
This is the video of the truck that Zeus Vega, my boy, hooked me up with.
Rob, play this video.
What's up, everyone?
Vincent O'Shaughan here.
A lot of you know I've been looking for a new ride.
Well, guess what?
I got one.
A fully decked out Ford Bronco from SoulFlow Customs, 40-inch tires, lift kit, custom leather interior, Kevlar paint job.
This thing is an absolute beast.
And here's the crazy part.
This guy, Zeus Vega, I'm on a Manek call with him, and we're talking about politics.
One thing leads to another.
He finds out that this is the exact car that I'm looking for.
And guess what he has in his driveway?
This car.
And he hooks me up with the deal of a lifetime.
He's a freaking great guy.
He's a huge value tainer.
He's a CEO and founder of Sanctus Pay, which is a payment processing company.
Zeus, real talk.
Why?
Why'd you hook me up?
I see you on the podcast.
I see how you live your life.
You're a man of God.
And I felt that it was time for you to level up.
Freaking love you.
I love you, too.
I know, but I'm going to drive.
No, no, actually.
I'll follow up.
Yeah, all right.
Bye.
Dude, let me tell you.
And even passed that thing.
Oh, dude, this thing is ridiculous.
It is insane.
Vinny, I'm happy for you.
So we did it.
This is exciting.
Wow.
So now locally, when you see Vinny rolling in this truck, you know how it happened.
Zeus, you the man.
Zeus has done probably 100 Manex with me back and forth.
He's also a platinum member of the Cigar Lounge.
By the way, that sold out.
And also a bunch of other things.
Good guy.
By the way, he was also winner of the Manecta.
He won and I went to the Derby with him.
He randomly won the raffle for the Derby, bro.
Him and Timothy Ryan went to Derby.
Anyways, gank, next week, we're going to announce the winners to VTNews.ai.
I got to go because I got a meeting right now on the other side on 1500 on 1400.
Were you going to say something or not?
No, nothing.
Vinny, what are you going to do with your Corolla now?
I'll take that thing real quick.
Well, Pat, I was going to say, maybe we have to do something about selling my Toyota Corolla on Shibi.
I'll say it for him.
I was thinking about you sell it to Adam, but I was going to say it's a bad idea.
I would have to see him.
Take care.
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