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You want to fush it on something second chase sweetie victory?
No, this life may for me.
Adam, what you think?
The future looks bright.
And Jacob is better than anything I ever saw.
You are a one-on-one.
My son, whatever.
I don't think I've ever said this before.
Oh, yes, we can.
Okay, fantastic.
Episode 556.
Gang.
Last night, we had a friend in town, Jillian Michaels, the great Jillian Michaels.
We went to dinner last night at Casa D'Angelo.
Let me tell you, I had no idea how much of a diehard Andrew Tate fan she was.
Huge.
She had commotions.
She had emotions.
She goes, I have some.
She's like, where is he?
I thought we were going to have dinner together.
And it was like the entire time.
You had to grab her to come back.
I mean, you guys.
She got river.
She sat down and said, no, Andrew, and almost ran out of the restaurant.
Somehow, if it wasn't for the Carpaccio, let me tell you.
You know what I wouldn't mind doing?
Here's what I'd love to do.
I'd love to see Andrew sit in between four ladies and do a show and him being grilled and see how he takes it, how he handles himself.
Probably.
Well, let's see.
I mean, we've already seen.
Jillian, I'd like to see what you would do.
I would curb stomp him.
I cannot.
Jillian.
American History X. Despicable character.
Really?
There we go.
Curb stomp him.
Like American History X. Pistol whip.
Edward Ross.
That's right.
That's the first thing I thought about Edward Rick.
Yeah, man.
He thinks so.
That's what I'm talking about.
All right.
So maybe, listen, maybe.
Why is there like a little bit of sexual remember?
He is.
He's got zero.
No.
Well, listen, I can tell you anytime we have interesting guests on, whether it's him, whether it's, I can have a list of 20 guys that we've had on.
How could you?
I cannot believe this and I cannot believe that.
And I'll tell everybody everything.
Be patient.
We're going to do many more of these.
You're not going to like them.
We're going to talk to people.
You don't like them.
You have the right to have your opinion.
We're going to have the conversation and it can go from there.
What we will do is we will have that combo.
My biggest thing was when people are even afraid of hearing the other side for you to not be able to decipher for yourself and say, yeah, here's, I disagree, I agree with that part.
That's why I would love to see the two of you guys one day chopping it up.
Anyways, guys, stories to cover here today.
Few things.
One, Mexico-Canada tariffs will be implemented due to unacceptable drug flows, Trump says.
The moment he starts announcing it, the Dow dropped $650,000 yesterday, just so you guys know.
So the market is panicking a little bit.
Bloomberg does a story talking about the fact that car prices are poised for $12,000 surge on Trump's new tariffs.
Hexit warrant of military action if Mexico fails to meet Trump's border demands.
Trump promises to pardon Pete Rose.
Pete Rose, are you kidding me that Pete Rose like all-time hitter?
Pistol penny.
And unfortunately, I like the way he said it.
I wish he could have experienced being alive to go to the Hall of Fame.
That's a shame that that never happens.
But can you imagine he wants to pardon him?
Trump rips Zelensky for calling into a Ukraine war very, very far away.
Worst statement that could have ever been made.
Zelensky won't apologize to Trump, but calls clash not good for both sides.
Not good for both sides.
Zelensky meets with British Prime Minister Kier Starmer in London following Trump's Oval Office clash.
Trump says the Ukraine mineral deal not dead yet, the deal, but Zelensky should be more appreciative.
Bill Maher endorses a Trump-like Democrat to run for president.
He doesn't dress like a Trump, but there is a Trump-like Democrat.
Wait till you see who that person is.
AOC asks NPR hosts to clarify the problem when he asks about migrant crisis concerning voters.
Clarify the problem.
Can you imagine that?
Andrew Como is launching his mayoral bid in New York City.
California waits for Harris's decision for governor race.
But folks, some good news here for some of you guys that want some good news.
I don't know how your day's been.
Tim Waltz says he is considering running for president in 2028.
So if you needed some entertainment, Tim Waltz, he's ready for it for 2028.
No.
Listen, this is coming into America.
Knuckle.
Come on, Taylor.
Hold on.
Is this an April full?
This is real.
No, no, no.
This is Knucklehead's run for president in 2028 despite failure of Harris campaign.
I'm willing to do whatever it takes.
We're finished.
Ram Emmanuel.
Wow.
It's going to take a lot.
It is going to take a lot.
Ram Emmanuel, who's a guy who's been on the left, Chicago politics, says we have disaster on crime in some damn cities due to permissiveness.
And then says, as a kid, I would have pretended to be trans to get into girls' rooms, but the issues talk about too much.
So he's kind of being sarcastic about it, but that's one of the topics we'll talk about.
Buffett calls Trump's tariffs a tax on goods and says the tooth fairy doesn't pay him.
Microsoft to shut down video calling pioneer.
Who remembers Skype?
I'd like to shut it down.
The original.
That's crazy, right?
Skype to shut it down.
That's a little bit sentimental for Vinnie earlier.
We're talking about it.
He got us a little bit, but it's okay.
Boomers are struggling to land that one job before hitting retirement.
Sergey Brin, 60 Hours.
We're going to play the clip of Jamie Dimon, the recording that was leaked.
That was a couple of weeks ago.
But if you haven't heard it, you have to hear it.
Florida condo crisis is here.
California's minimum wage, $20, has sparked major job losses.
Seattle's got the same issue.
Seattle's original Starbucks officially closed down.
Pretty intense, the first one ever, closed down.
And then aside from that, I got a bunch of other stories for Epstein.
Jelaine Maxwell is considering seeking presidential pardon from Trump.
I got an idea about Jelaine Maxwell.
I have a very unique idea about Jelaine Maxwell.
I'd like them to consider.
Joy Reid went on an anti-Semitic rant.
Adam wasn't happy about it.
Elon Musk reveals biggest Ponzi scheme.
He unmasked through Doge.
And then a couple stories here that we have to talk about.
Being a parent keeps the brain young, especially if you got multiple kids.
It's a study finds.
That is good for you, Vinny.
So I'm going to stop using condoms or else you'll become Joe Biden.
I'm going to stop becoming Joe Biden.
All right, no condoms.
This next one here doesn't apply to the people at this podcast.
But it says why men can't help falling in love faster.
Men say, I love you before women do.
It's proven it's a study.
So we've got a couple other stories.
Yeah, please go.
Can I say one thing really fast?
As all you guys, when's St. Patrick's Day?
St. Patty's Day.
17th?
Monday.
So it's Monday.
But I want everybody to know this.
You have no idea.
But today is actually, it's a new holiday.
It's St. Patrick McDavid's Day.
And he's the saint of lost entrepreneurs.
And guess what?
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Look at this shit.
Hey.
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That's supposed to be me.
This is supposed to be me.
Listen.
Very complimentary.
We have the nose, Vinny.
That is very, that's a nice nose job.
So I'm going to let you guys know.
So we have a collection.
The fabric's nice.
You should have spent more on the artist, though.
Guys, that's the collection.
Look at that.
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Don't place an order.
No, no, no.
Guys, I want your face.
He wants a million people walking around with the future looks bright.
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You get this.
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How much?
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But how much?
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I want to have that.
And whoever gets it, the whole PVD podcast team with Jillian are going to sign it.
Yeah, hold on.
Yeah, we're going to give you a message.
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Wow.
Oh, that's nice.
And we're all going to sign it.
We'll give you the message.
What are we going to sign it on his cheeks?
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Are you mad at this shirt?
I actually like it.
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PVD, I am.
Okay, I love you in Seinfeld, PVD.
I love you in Seinfeld right there.
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Let's go to the stores.
Can we do this?
You guys are funny.
By the way, is that going to stay in Vinishad the entire time?
That is hilarious.
Leave it.
Leave it like that.
Give a kick out of it.
Do me a favor.
That looks like a Jillian check.
That looks like a teapot.
That looks like a little tea card.
I got to have it.
All right.
I'll be here if you need me.
Let's get into it.
Let's start off, Rob, with the whole Zelensky-Trump issue, which got a little bit out of control.
So we all saw the clip of the exchange between the two that the moment Zelensky started threatening that, hey, you have some things that you have to worry about as well.
And that wasn't a good look when he went there.
We've seen this clip, Rob.
If you can fast forward to maybe 30 seconds when he tries to say things about President Trump and he's not right there, that's good.
Watch this clip here.
I'm sure you've seen it, but we'll repeat it.
Go ahead, Rob.
People in your military have problems.
And do you think that it's respectful?
I will answer to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country.
A lot of questions.
Let's start from the beginning.
Sure.
First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.
Even you.
But you have nice ocean and don't feel now.
But you will feel it in the future.
God bless.
God bless you.
God bless.
You're not having this war.
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
We're trying to solve a problem.
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
I'm not telling you.
Because you're in no position to dictate that.
Remember this.
You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
Audacity.
We're going to feel very good.
We're going to feel very good and very strong.
You're right now not in a very good position.
You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position and it happens to be right about it.
From the very beginning of the war.
You're not in a good position.
You don't have the cards right now.
With us, you start having cards.
Right now, you don't wear your friends.
I'm wearing Cedars.
You're gambling with the library.
So while this is happening, President Trump comes out on Truth Social and says that an end to Ukraine war with Russia was very, very far away, writing this is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelensky, and America will not put up with it much longer.
It is what I was saying.
This guy doesn't want there to be peace as long as he has America's backing in Europe in the meeting they had with Zelensky, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without U.S. probably not a good, not a great statement to have been made in terms of show of strength against Russia.
What are they thinking?
After a fiery Oval Office clash, Trump said, you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
And if we're out, you'll fight it out.
I don't think it's going to be very pretty.
So that being said, Rob, yesterday, story is trending that President Trump ends the aid to Ukraine.
Okay?
And we saw that.
I don't know if you have that or not, Rob, where he flat out says we're ending the aid to Ukraine.
Is this the clip, Rob?
So I have Fox News reporting.
I don't have Trump, but I can find it.
No, it's okay.
This is the one.
They're saying they're ending the aid.
This is the clip.
I've seen this as well.
Play this clip.
Tomorrow, Brian, our Lucas Tomlinson reporting: the United States is pausing all U.S. military aid to Ukraine until President Trump determines the Ukrainians show a commitment of good faith peace negotiations.
That's according to a senior Trump administration telling Fox: this is not a permanent termination of aid.
It is a pause.
The orders are going out right now.
The official said this in response to Ukrainian President Zelensky's conduct over the last week and his words over the weekend.
So it's all stopping.
Now, keep away.
Aid is done.
I'll show the next story and then I want to get a reaction from you guys here.
Pull up the story from CBS I just sent you, Rob.
So while all this stuff is going on, Putin's been saying, what does this guy really want?
And what did NATO promise they would never do?
And what did Bush promise?
What did the U.S. promise?
What did NATO promise?
We will never want to do anything with Ukraine being part of NATO.
Now, watch this.
Ukraine Zelensky says he would give up presidency in exchange for peace and NATO membership.
This guy is trying to negotiate a deal into getting into NATO.
All of this stuff that's taking place back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
And then the UK prime minister, UK president, comes out defending Kim, saying the mineral deal is not going to happen.
It's not this.
It's not that.
So they're making it even tougher.
Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.
First, we will keep the military aid flowing and keep increasing the economic pressure on Russia to strengthen Ukraine now.
Second, we agreed that any lasting peace must ensure Ukraine's sovereignty and security.
And Ukraine must be at the table.
Third, in the event of a peace deal, we will keep boosting Ukraine's own defensive capabilities to deter any future invasion.
Fourth, we will go further, develop a coalition of the willing to defend a deal in Ukraine and to guarantee the peace.
Not every nation will feel able to contribute, but that can't mean that we sit back.
You can pause it.
Tom, your thoughts on the story.
So, boy, where do you go on this?
I think everybody has seen all of the historical constructs, and there's been a lot of people that old speeches and things that are on Twitter showing where this started.
And this didn't start with Russia's invasion.
This goes back to 2014.
This goes back into overthrowing a rightful president and putting in a new regime in Ukraine.
And this goes back to the progressive eastward expansion of NATO.
And, you know, Russia keeps saying, hey, stop.
You said you weren't going to do this.
Can you stop that?
And then the Baltic states and then the southern states and then Georgia.
And it's like, stop.
And so now you've got Europe over there saying, we're going to back you up.
We're going to do this and back you up.
You have to remember where this started and no, Russia shouldn't have invaded there.
And just the heartfelt loss of life that's happened in Ukraine to all the average citizens, this is horrifying.
The count that everybody keeps talking about is a million Ukrainians have lost their lives in this conflict.
This is horrible.
It's like 10 COVIDs.
And so, you know, I look at all of Europe.
You're going to back up this guy and give him a backstop that gives him no, he doesn't have to find a peace deal with Russia.
He doesn't have to negotiate with Russia.
He can keep flipping off Putin because these people are going to back him up now.
So how do you get Ukraine to the table to say, hey, look, you know, we got to find a way forward on this.
And to me, I find it very, very difficult.
And what's equally galling to me is there's things that the media and the other foreign countries aren't talking about.
It's just how much we gave as grants versus giving as loans.
Can you pull up that chart, Rob?
Can you pull up that chart?
Just go straight to my market.
So it's complicated, but underneath, I'm pretty torqued.
Twerked?
Twerked?
Torque.
I didn't twerk.
No, no.
Like, I know where you're making.
I just wasn't.
Better men out of shape.
Better men out of shape.
I got you, Tom.
Here's the word.
Check this out.
Check this out.
100%.
BBC.
Okay.
Look at this.
Government support to Ukraine.
Blue is loans.
Green is grant.
Gray is guaranteed.
Look at U.S. Only a third of what we've given as a loan.
Green is grant.
Okay.
Look at EU.
They're like, yeah, we'll give you a loan, but you better pay it back.
EU knows how to negotiate and get the money back.
A little bit of grant, a little bit of guarantee.
And then you have everybody else.
The question becomes: why are taxpayers, why are we just giving it away?
Why can't we get the money back?
Why can't he go negotiate on behalf of Americans?
Why can't Trump go and say, here's the things that I want?
If you don't give it to us, we're not supporting you anymore.
Why not?
And by the way, if Kira is comfortable giving more money to them, go ahead and do it.
You guys got money.
Go give it to them.
We don't need to do it.
If you feel so compelled, anybody in the EU should be more interested in the protection of Ukraine than U.S. U.S. should be interested in Canada and Mexico.
Everybody else, you pay up.
You go do it.
We understand.
We support your decision.
But you ought to risk that money with your taxpayers, not us.
So, Tom, you're making a very good point with that.
Jillian, what do you think about this?
One more.
How do you think EU is going to get paid back their loan if there's no money in Ukraine?
Minerals, the thing that they don't want us to do.
That's right.
Jillian.
I actually want to play devil's advocate and ask a few questions.
I'm 100% with Tom.
I think there were a million off-ramps.
I do think we provoked this, or not us as Americans, but our companies provoked this because we've taken their farming lands.
As you've educated me on, BlackRock and JPMorgan have a $400 billion contract to go in and rebuild.
So that said, Ukraine is the loser across the board, as far as I can tell.
They have lost all of their resources from what I can, again, what I'm observing.
Why would we not, honestly, I'm not saying continue to fund the war.
100%?
No, nobody wants that.
We want this over.
But why would we not say, listen, if you do this deal and you're so convinced that Putin's going to overstep, should it happen again, we'll step in.
We'll help protect you.
Why would we not do that if we are invested in extracting minerals and our big ag companies like ADM and Monsanto and Cargill are using their land?
They're leasing the breadbasket there.
What would be the reason to not give them that assurance?
U.S. Why would we not?
Why would we not provide the assurance that if Russia broke the ceasefire, because this is what he's saying.
He's like, you can't trust him.
He's going to break the ceasefire.
He's going to come in.
He's going to.
Right.
And Trump is saying, no way.
No, you have the assurance here.
If we do business with you, that's not going to happen.
And he's going, I just don't feel that confident.
I'm not a Zelensky advocate.
I'm just asking you, why would we not say, look, we're sure, but if he oversteps and if he breaks the ceasefire, blah, blah, blah, we'll provide support.
Not that I want to be doing that, but if we're taking their minerals, I can kind of see why the request is there.
Yeah.
So to me, kind of what we talked about last night is the following.
If a company hires a new CEO, okay, John has been running this company as a CEO for the last 10 years.
I get hired.
The new CEO comes in.
They bring new executive team.
The first thing the new CEO does is they go through all the contracts that we have to try to see a way to negotiate.
So if I'm an insurance CEO and I go to another company and I have experience and I know all these carriers, I'll go to a company, I'll look at all their contracts and I'll say, hey, I'm sorry, this carrier only pays you guys $130?
Yeah.
Only 130%?
Yes.
And you got so much premium.
You send them $40 million a year.
Why are you guys only getting $130?
I was getting $145 and I was only sending them $20 million a year.
Are you kidding me?
No.
This is ridiculous.
Let me call him up.
Hey, Johnny, yes.
Is it true that you guys only pay us 130 points and we give you 40 million a year?
Yes.
You got 24 hours to bump that up to 150 million so I make my money back of the last six years for the company or else we're no longer doing business with you.
That premium is going somewhere else.
That's what the new CEO is doing.
Now, the previous CEO, why did he do 130?
I don't know.
What were the side favors?
Was he invited to events?
Was he invited to, I don't know all those side deals.
I was not in the negotiating room.
So to me, it's not just about why wouldn't we back them up.
You think Trump wants a world war?
You think Trump wants people to go out there, another World War III happening under his watch?
He doesn't want that.
He doesn't want any of that stuff.
It seems Zelensky thinks, again, I'm just playing devil's advocate for the people that I argue with on the other side.
And because I'm not an expert in geopolitics, but if I'm Zelensky, I'm going to want the assurance.
If I'm giving away 50% of our minerals, I would ask the same thing.
No, I wouldn't do it.
Really?
I've already given you money.
Taxpayers have already given you money.
What are we getting for reassurance for what we've given you the last three and a half, four years?
What is our reassurance, not yours?
Look, so think about the gated community you live in.
Okay.
If in your gated community, there's a, what do you call it?
When every month people get to know there's a meeting that they have.
Tom, what is that called?
There's an HO meeting.
So that I never go to.
But let's just say there's this homeowner association that Jennifer goes to, right?
And then she gives me an idea.
Oh, my gosh.
So these homeowner association meeting.
Imagine we go in there and one of the guys says, hey, the security we got is 85 years old.
He's letting people in.
We had another car that was robbed.
I think we got to hire a new security firm and the guys have to be former military, licensed to carry, and we have to pay that.
To do that, currently we're paying this guy $17 an hour.
To do that, it's going to be $32 an hour.
That means all of us, instead of paying $600 a month, it's going to go to $900 a month.
And then everybody looks around and says, you know what?
I'm with it.
Let's do it.
Great.
Now, why should we all care about that homeowner association?
Because we all live in that gated community.
Now trip out on this.
You ready?
Yeah.
Let's say another gated community in Fort Lauderdale that is 3,000 miles away from where you live, okay, comes up to you and says, hey, guys, check this out.
Our community is not safe.
We're getting robbed.
We want you to contribute to our homeowner association to make our gated community safer.
And you're sitting there saying, wait a minute, what did you say?
Yeah, we want your money to protect our gated community.
So what does this mean?
Wait a minute.
I'm already protecting my gated community.
What is our gated community?
It's called U.S., Canada, Mexico.
It's called We Spend 3.4% of our annual budget.
Mexico spends 0.7%.
Canada spends 1.1 of their GDP military expenditure.
We're already making our gated community safer.
Why do we need to make Ukraine's gated community safer?
That's the question.
And Trump's asking the right question because if that's the case, EU should be paying more money than everybody else, not us.
We're not on there all the time.
We'll contribute a little bit, but number one, more than anybody else, with nothing new.
No, 100% not.
But I get, and this, and then I'll drop it.
It's just simply because the reason we would make their gated community safer is out of Zelensky's mouth.
I didn't take money.
I got weapons.
Well, who profited off the weapons?
Our defense contractors.
Who was forced to reform their laws about their farming land and give up leases to our big ag companies?
They were.
So now our defense contractors are making money.
Our big ag contractors are making money.
And now we're going to be taking their minerals.
And I'm not saying that we shouldn't be defending.
I'm simply saying if we are stripping them of resources and then you've got BlackRock and J.P. Morgan going in to rebuild, that would be our investment in their gated community.
And what happens?
Let's just say now Zelensky signs it and Putin does go in.
Contrary to what Trump says and what I don't believe will happen, but he does go in and Zelensky's right.
Then what actually do we do?
Now that we are invested there, would we step up to the plate if Putin decided to push further?
Okay, so you're assuming 100% of all the money that was given is all military weapons.
There's AIDS, there's humanitarian aid, there's cash, there's different things that was given.
What that number of the $113 billion or whatever the numbers, $140 billion, we don't know.
We want to know that.
So the claims of the kind of money he's making, the claims of what they're doing when they're coming through, all of that stuff that people talk about, you know, whether it's true or not, I don't think we'll ever find out.
If we do, it's because someone's going to come out and someone's getting killed.
If something happens to Zelensky, that's the part.
In regards to Russia, let's talk.
If we're talking about the military-industrial complex, that these guys want all these contracts to be able to sell more weapons.
No problem.
We talked about this again last night.
The one number no one talks about.
What is Putin in the way of?
Think about it.
What is Putin in the way of?
The one thing nobody talks about.
Rob, can you Google which country has the most natural resources?
Okay.
And folks, if you're listening to this, I don't want you to say anything.
I want them to guess.
Shocking.
Can you don't show it?
You showed it already.
Can you guess how many people, how much money of natural resources Russia has that Putin is in the way of other companies going in there and having access to this?
You know what the number is?
You think it's 10 trillion?
You think it's 20 trillion?
22 trillion?
23 trillion?
Rob, can you pull up what the number is with Russia?
$75 trillion is what they think.
Unfathomable.
And by the way, can you pull up the ranking of number one to number two to number three to number four to number five?
Ranking of countries by natural resources.
Jeez, that's not easy.
By natural resources.
If there's a leadersbully.
That's not even weird.
Look at that.
You can't even look ahead around how many zeros.
We're at 45 trillion.
They're nearly 2x.
Go to the next one, Rob.
Saudi Arabia is 34.
All that oil.
Russia's 75 trillion.
Canada, 33.
Brazil, 22.
Where is Venezuela?
Where's everybody else?
You're talking about 75 trillion.
So he's in the way of somebody wanting to get access to that right there.
So look at Canada.
Iran is 27K.
China's 23 trillion.
Brazil's 22.
Australia's 20.
Iraq 16.
Venezuela, that's like oil, oil, oil, is sixth of what Russia is.
He, these people that are these big behemoth companies like the BlackRocks, the State Streets, the Vanguards, they're like, hey, man, we want to get access to that.
We want to do business there.
There's a guy in the way saying you can't.
They have to get rid of that guy.
This was the same case with Iran.
Shah was in the way.
They got to get rid of that guy.
They got to get rid of this guy.
So Putin's not playing ball.
I'm not sitting here telling you he's an angel and all this other stuff.
I do want to play one clip to get your reaction on it.
Okay.
You've done work with Bill and Hillary Clinton, and you had a very good experience with them.
I did.
Just so you know.
I listen, I've changed teams, but in all transparency, I worked with the administration on health matters.
How were they to you?
They were very lovely to me.
Bill is extraordinarily charismatic, though.
For sure.
He's got it down to his science.
This guy will remember a story about your sick chihuahua 10 years later.
He's like, how's Baxter?
How's your little dog?
And you're just like, wow.
I mean.
Okay.
So would you say he's one of the best politicians?
Oh, that's 40 years.
Of course.
Would you put him ahead of Obama?
Yes.
I would as well.
Okay?
Yes.
This is when he was asked about Putin in 2013.
Look at his answer.
Go ahead, Rob.
Look, Mr. Putin has got, he got all, he's very smart.
You know him better than most people.
Yeah, I did.
What was he like behind closed doors away from the public utterances?
Smart and remarkably, we had a really good, blunt relationship.
How blunt?
Brutally blunt.
Ever like, you know, fisticuration?
No, but I think, you know, I think the right strategy most of the time, but it's frustrating to people in your line of work.
You should be brutally honest with people in private.
And then if you want them to help you, try to avoid embarrassing them in public.
Now, sometimes they do things which make it impossible for you to keep quiet.
But by and large, I found all the people I dealt with appreciated it if I told them the truth.
Do you know?
How I honestly felt and what our interests were and what our objectives were.
And they also appreciated it when I didn't kick them around in public for as long as I couldn't kick them around.
So, you know, that's my experience.
Did Putin ever renegue on a personal agreement he made to you?
He did not.
So behind closed doors, he could be trusted.
He kept his word and all the deals we made.
Bingo.
Bingo.
So that's Bill Clinton.
So do you trust Bill Clinton is telling the truth?
Do you think he's telling a lie?
You know what you said last night that was so interesting about you?
This is why I love you so much.
You said such a unique thing last night.
We're sitting there.
It's very obvious you're not a Tate fan.
No.
Okay.
I won't tell the whole context of the conversation because it's private.
What we were talking about.
I don't mind the dog.
No, no, no.
But when I was talking about different individuals and we talked about the different individuals, and I said, which one of these names do you think would be most honest with you?
Okay, I don't think it's necessary for me to give the other names, but you said, even though I don't agree with him and I can't stand him, I think he would tell me the truth, even though I would disagree with him.
Right?
You said that yesterday.
Yes, I did.
Okay.
100%.
So this doesn't mean they're boys.
This doesn't mean they're kicking it, going to Casa D'Angelo tonight.
This doesn't mean they're going to go have sushi and talk, you know, hockey, Russia, and stuff like that.
No, he's just telling you, I'm going against a boss that keeps his word.
Okay, and maybe that's why Trump and Putin get along and Trump and Zelensky don't get along.
Maybe that's because Zelensky is playing games and Putin's just kind of like, this is who I am.
What do you want to do?
So to me, I don't know.
I'm not in it.
I don't talk to any of these guys.
I don't have a relationship with any of these guys.
I'm just a business guy that's been in weird rooms at a much, much, much smaller scale that you watch people playing games.
And then you have to position everybody and say, what is that guy trying to do?
What does he want from this deal?
How is this guy benefiting?
What does he fear if this deal gets done?
Those are the things I pay attention to.
And in this scenario, I think Putin's in a way of $75 trillion and the money people are like, you guys think $400 billion is money in Ukraine to rebuild that place?
Shit.
This other country's got $75 trillion.
How the hell do we get that kind of money, access to that?
I think that's what people want, that they don't have access to right now.
And they're willing to do that and start World War III that could potentially kill all of us.
But Pat, you guys mentioned 2014.
I don't know if you guys remember Joe Biden, CIA director, the past one, his name is William J. Burns.
In 2008, he was a U.S. ambassador to Russia.
He expressed his concerns regarding Ukraine's potential NATO membership in a confidential cable called NEET Means Net, Russia's NATO Enlargement Readiness.
He wrote, Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for Russia elite, not just Putin.
He said this could potentially split the country in two, okay?
And what people don't, like, I don't get what people, it's not computing.
You're trying to put NATO push missiles and bases closer to Russia.
If somebody right now, Jillian, was like, you know what, China was like, we're coming into Mexico.
We would never allow it.
We're going to build a country.
We would never allow it.
Would hold on.
We would bomb and fight everybody.
Well, it was called the Cuban Union Military.
Thank you, which almost caused a war.
But what drives me crazy.
We kind of went IRL on that one.
Yeah, we did.
But what drives me crazy is this blind liberal, it is a liberal support with the I stand with Ukraine, okay?
Which they can't even point it out on a map, okay?
And Ukraine doesn't even align with our values.
For instance, first off, gay marriage is illegal in Ukraine.
So all these people that have the pride flag with the Ukrainian flag, you're an idiot.
It's like the gays for Gaza.
Go to Gaza.
Go to Gaza and see how they're going to be.
That's lovely there.
Go check it out.
They don't support what they fight for.
And the number, the two things, as two veterans, Jillian, what they're doing right now, men in Russia, I showed a little clip of Rob.
Can you pull this up?
And I wanted the audio of the guy screaming.
They are running up to grown men, young guys, fathers, sons, your uncles, and grabbing them.
It's called conscription.
They're grabbing them, throwing them in the van, and putting them in the front lines to die.
Okay.
What happened to my body, my choice?
Body autonomy.
These people are not.
I mean, yeah, yeah, it doesn't mean shit.
These guys, like, is a is there audio on this?
We should.
Yes.
Can you imagine?
Yeah, but listen to the audio of the guy screaming.
He's walking his dog.
And then this is the Ukrainian officials or military.
Look at it.
He's running.
He knows.
And he's gone.
Front lines and he's gone.
And Rob, you can jump a little bit forward, Robbie.
The dog is going, think that guy wants to fight.
Yeah, look at this.
Grabbing him, screaming, doesn't want to go.
Okay, Rob, you could do that.
So it's just, it drives me crazy of all this support, all of our tax dollars, when at the end of the day, you don't even know what the hell.
I stand with Ukraine.
When I see that sign, I stand with Ukraine.
It should say, I bend over for Ukraine.
I'm tired of it.
All the money, all the way, and you nailed it.
It's follow the money.
And Ukraine, remember Russia?
It's like Pooh and Pooh in price hike.
Put in this.
He's the best.
Give me a break.
That whole sales pitch isn't, it's not selling anymore to me.
I couldn't agree with you more.
I'm just saying if we're trying to bring an end, that's all.
And that we are, I feel like Ukraine has been raped, pillaged, and plundered, and Zelensky's just a puppet.
And we obviously installed him through the National Endowment for Democracy and funded that coup that Tom mentioned in 2014, or at least it sure seems that way.
And this has all been driven by money.
Just like you say, follow the money.
I just feel like we got, or not we.
I don't want to say we, because it's not us in the room.
It's not Americans.
But whoever wanted this got what they wanted.
Whoever provoked this, don't move NATO eastward.
We added 14 countries, put it on Putin's border.
Like, obviously, you know, Nietzsche means Ned.
You knew what you were doing.
You got what you wanted.
And that's the only part where I'm like, well, okay, you got the farmland.
You got the minerals.
You got the money for the bombs.
You got the contract to rebuild.
You can grab all of their resources even further and 35x it.
I just wonder why he wouldn't be like, sure, sure, sure.
If he comes in, we'll step in.
But I hear everything you're saying, and I know Americans don't want that.
I'm not saying continue funding it, but I'm going to come to you, Rob.
Can you do me a favor?
Pull up a poll from Guardian, that Thomas Souls Twitter account.
Whoever runs that account, we've spoken multiple times.
Great job running that account.
Rob, it's in the notes section that I have.
Yeah, okay, it's fine.
No, no, go where you're going.
It's fine.
Go right there.
Go lower, lower, lower, lower.
Some of these guys tweet so often that you go like solo till you find it.
So then go to the notes section, Rob, that I have.
Go to the notes section.
If you go there, you'll see a poll.
This is a poll asking how people, okay, in EU, most Europeans, how they feel about Ukraine.
And it's such an interesting thing because it's two separate polls.
Rob, right there.
Okay.
Zoom in.
So zoom in first to read the top.
Most Europeans feel Ukraine is not getting enough Western support.
Okay.
But watch before you go to the next one.
Are the current measures against Russia and aid given to Ukraine enough to prevent a Russian victory?
Red is not enough.
Light grays don't know.
Blue is enough, more than enough.
Look at that.
66% say not enough.
Denmark, Sweden, Spain.
Lowest one is France.
52%, not enough.
The middle one, Gray's like, I don't know.
And then the blue is, yeah, it's more than enough.
12, 16, 13, 11, 20, 15, 18%.
Now they changed the question.
This is the Guardian.
And Guardian is supportive of Ukraine.
Go a little bit lower and see what the next question is.
However, only a minority think their country should increase the support.
No shit, Sherlock.
How should your country manage support giving to Ukraine?
Increase it, maintain it, don't know, reduce it.
Now look at it.
Increase only 29%.
Sweden.
Look at Denmark.
Go to the top.
Denmark was number one at what?
60-something percent?
It's not enough.
What begets this entitlement pact?
This is not, and then go lower.
And then they're like, what?
No.
That's the point.
It's like they work half the work a week that we do.
They've got, you know, their health care is covered.
And it's all because we pay for the majority of the defense.
What is this entitlement that I am baffled by?
By the way, wouldn't you be like excited if a dumb American negotiator agrees to pay more towards a country that's a border to you than you?
How awesome of a negotiation.
You got to give credit to EU for negotiation they did with Biden's administration.
You're not even bordered to this country, but you care more than we do.
Send the money, but we won't.
Look at these numbers.
It's embarrassing.
So socialism is anytime people want to give your money, but they just don't want it to be their money.
That's what they have a problem with, Tom.
No, that's exactly right.
What's very interesting here?
How many of you think your sisters should go to college and that the funds should be there?
All of her three brothers and sisters raise their hands, right?
Yes.
Okay.
So who wants to give up their iPad and their summer sports so that we can put the money for your sisters?
Everybody runs out of the kitchen.
That's exactly Adam.
Well, a lot of these countries are already socialists to begin with, so they don't mind being taxed at 50%.
What's 51%?
Because it's already just going to lead to basically.
But most countries are already used to being taxed.
I know.
What I'm saying is when it comes down to should we increase it, they're saying no.
Finally.
So they're basically, it's like when you get pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed, at some point you're going to be like, all right, enough's enough.
But you asked an interesting question earlier about personalities.
You know, people, you talk about 2014, what happened?
Nobody gives a shit about the Donbass region.
I get it.
People there, they talk about this, but what happened in 2019?
The Russians that were there getting shelled seem to care.
Exactly.
But the world doesn't really care about that.
What happened in 2019 is really what we should remember.
Because in 2019, this is when Zelensky got elected, right?
And then shortly after that, if you remember this, Trump had a perfect call with him.
And we learned the term quid pro quo.
Remember that?
You know, these buzzword terms that get thrown in the world and then never heard from again, like Kofifi or whatever happened with that.
So quid quote, quid bro go.
He's saying Rudy Giuliani was apparently pressuring Zelensky to investigate Hunter Biden.
Do you remember all this stuff?
Do you remember all this stuff?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So he had a perfect call.
He's basically saying, listen, we're going to give you military assistance, but Zelensky, I'm going to need you to do a little something, something for Daddy Trump.
And then they paraded Zelensky out to the Oval Office.
And he's like, what do you think about the call report?
He's like, yes, I didn't know to get pleasure.
Like in front of Trump.
Sort of very like concessionary towards Trump.
Boom.
What happens?
Trump gets impeached for a second time for a call with Zelensky.
So five years later, when Trump becomes the president, you don't think he remembers maybe?
Aren't you that mothersucker that got me impeached?
Little homie.
Waiting for it, and then he gets out of the car and he's like, Oh, look at the little guy.
I see you dressed up real nice for me, buddy.
Good point.
Okay, so there's a personal relationship there.
So it comes down to respect.
100%.
So, yeah, we're on Team Ukraine, right?
We're on the team.
America, from a policy perspective, from a policy perspective, right?
It's not like we're having Putin in the Oval Office.
But from a personality perspective, Trump doesn't respect Zelensky.
What was the whole video of him shaking his whole thing?
Oh my gosh, we're also ridiculous.
We're not friends with Russia at this point.
Trump, I think, wants to have a warmer relationship.
Get this point.
He at least respects Putin.
Yes, he's a thug.
Yes, he's a KGB agent as your boy.
Yes, he's a killer.
Yes, if you say something wrong, you'll get thrown out of a window.
But Trump, in a weird way, at least respects Putin, has no respect for Zelinsky.
Catch you a question?
I mean, look at this guy right now.
You made a great point.
Why wouldn't Putin, like, if they're communicating and Trump respects everybody, why wouldn't he come to the White House?
Would you mind it?
I wouldn't mind Putin coming to have a conversation.
He's going to send us Sergey Law.
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, if that Madonna chest-wearing freaking freak that's probably on cocaine could come there and disrespect the shit out of us, Vladimir Putin's a whole different beast, bro.
That guy could.
What do you mean?
You're saying, why isn't he?
Why wouldn't he ever come in?
Let me show this clip.
That's a good question.
Can I just say one thing?
Just think about it for one second.
The people of Ukraine, you don't think they've seen his videos?
A thousand times.
They looked at him and they go, yeah, I'll vote for that guy.
So what's going on with those people?
Did they really, though?
Like, I know he was elected, but I mean, I don't know.
I tend to think it was influenced by us.
Oh, for sure.
If I can say one thing, there he is, right?
Look at that movie.
Oh, my God.
Jelly, what do you think about that move?
Yeah.
He's got my vote.
I actually thought Trump, for the vast majority of that meeting, was disrespectful.
Yes.
I thought he was, I watched the whole thing.
And for the vast majority, I thought he held it together.
You know, there was an arm tap.
It was patient.
And then.
And he called JD JD, not Mr. Vice President.
Like, it was building.
And then Trump lost his shit.
But it was.
You don't have the confidence.
Yeah, I mean, but I thought he hung on longer than I expected.
I mean, I agree.
The thing is, Trump actually gave him respect.
You show up like that dressed.
That's an insult.
By the way, you know what we just talked about: 75 trillion with Russia.
Here's what Putin said two days ago.
Rob, if you can play that clip, Putin's like, oh, really?
You guys want to do a mineral deal with Ukraine?
Let me tell you what winnerals we got here.
Go ahead, Rob.
Go ahead, Rob.
And rare earth metals.
He knows the leverage he has.
Of course.
Hey, just so you know, guys, you're talking to come here.
We got everything to offer you.
Anyways, let's go to the next story.
Next story.
Next story I want to get to is working from home.
And we have to play this clip of Jamie Dimon on how he reacts when this came up.
And the way I'm going to go into this, Rob, I'm going to tell the story of Google, what just happened with Sergei Brin and what they're doing at Google, talking about the fact that Sergei Bryn tells Google employees that 60 hours a week is the sweet spot for productivity.
Some beg to differ, okay?
Google Go co-founder urged employees working on Gemini to target about 60 hours a week as the sweet spot of productivity, writing in a memo, competition has accelerated immensely and the final race to AGI is afoot, referring to AI and suggesting they be in the office at least every weekday, though he noted some folks put on a lot more, but can burn out or lose creativity.
Workplace experts challenge Bryn's view with John Turgokis, a University of Toronto management professor.
Of course, a professor is going to have his opinion who doesn't work, but he's telling others how to work.
Tells Business Insider, we see people taking longer to do the same amount of work than they would when they were fresher due to errors and motivation drops and da-da-da-da-da.
And then Siova Jabat favors burstable bandwidth over fixed long hours.
You work a bit harder on these days, but you have to be able to rest and recharge, which is a good point, but 60 hours, right?
Then there's Jamie Dimon and a leaked recording where he loses his shit is what a lot of people are saying.
I love it.
Okay.
And here's what he had to say.
Go for it, Rob.
A lot of you were on the fucking Zoom and you were doing the following, okay?
You know, looking at your mail, sending texts to each other about what an asshole the other person is.
Okay.
Not paying attention, not reading your stuff, you know.
And if you don't think that slows down efficiency, creativity, creates rudeness, and stuff, it does.
Okay.
And when I found out that people are doing that, you don't do that in my goddamn meetings.
You go to meeting with me.
You got my attention.
You got my focus.
I don't bring my goddamn phone.
I'm not sending text to people.
Okay.
It simply doesn't work.
And it doesn't work for creativity.
It slows down decision making.
And don't give me the shit that work from home Friday works.
I call a lot of people Friday.
They're not a goddamn person to get a hold of.
But here are the problems.
Okay.
And they are substantial, okay?
Which is the young generation is being damaged by this.
That means they may or may not be in your particular staff, but they are being left behind.
They're being left behind socially, ideas, meeting people.
In fact, my guess is most of you live in communities a hell of a lot less diverse than this room.
Every area should be looking to be 10% more efficient.
If I was running the department of 100 people, I guarantee you, if I wanted to, I can run it with 90 and be more efficient.
I guarantee you.
I could do it in my sleep.
And the notion, these bureaucracies, I need more people.
I can't get it done.
No, because you're filling out requests that don't need to be done.
Your people are going to meetings they don't need to go to.
Someone told me to approve some is wealth management that they had to go to 14 committees.
I am dying to get the name of the 14 committees.
And I feel like firing 14 chairmen of committees.
I can't stand it anymore.
Now, you have a choice.
You don't have to work at JP Morgan.
So the people of you who don't want to work at the company, that's fine with me.
I'm not mad at you.
Don't be mad at me.
It's a free country.
You can walk with your feet, you know, but this company is going to set our own standards and do it our own way.
Thank you.
And I've had it with this kind of stuff.
And, you know, I come in, you know, I've been working seven days a goddamn week since COVID.
And I come in and I, where's everybody else?
They're here and there and the Zooms and the Zoom don't show up.
And people say they need guests.
So that's not how you run a great company.
We didn't build this great company by doing that, by doing the same semi-diseas shit that everybody else does.
Tom, your thoughts.
Well, first of all, I love what he's saying.
Let's break into some of the major parts.
He talks about individual development.
Tim Armstrong of Verizon's Oath, which was Verizon Media, man, took it in the chops when he came out and he said, I'm already seeing, and we were only six months into COVID.
I'm already seeing people working from home that are not getting the ability to develop, that want to raise or they want to be promoted to manager, and they haven't been around people and they haven't been developing.
So, number one is development.
And he's absolutely right.
The overall umbrella, though, these are the standards that make this company great.
And I am leading this company, and this is the way I'm going to do it.
And so, he's not out there to say, I'm going to vote for the average.
He called it a disease.
He said, I'm not here to vote for average.
These are the standards that make JP Morgan great.
If you want to work with JP Morgan, work for me, and here's my, here's what I think about it.
And you get development out of it, but I also want to eliminate focus and distraction.
People do it to me.
You don't do that at my meetings.
When I'm at my meetings, I set my phone aside.
You have my focus, you have my attention.
And so, he's absolutely correct as far as I'm concerned.
If other people want to do it differently, they can do it differently.
And by the way, what was Sergey Brin talking about?
Competition.
He said, competition to AI is heating up.
It is not a given that our Gemini project is going to be successful.
And by the way, I think 60 hours a week is about what we need to do here because this is a competitive thing.
And we could lose a lead here.
That's what Sergey Britton's talking about.
But what are they both talking about?
We're leading these companies.
And if you want to work here, this is the way it's going to be.
And why do people not respect that?
Julian.
I think it's a generational thing.
As a Gen Xer, I remember when Katzenberg said, if you don't come in on Saturday, don't even bother coming in on Sunday.
And that was the culture.
You know, Elon Musk said, here, you know, you bitch about burning the midnight oil.
And in China, they're burning the 3 a.m. oil.
And we're losing.
AI.
I mean, look what DeepSeek just did.
So for me, as a Gen Xer, that is music to my ears, but try to tell that to a kid who's Gen Z.
And you know what's fascinating is that your entire team here is filled with young, aggressive, hungry kids.
Thank you.
And I cannot figure out.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And I can't figure out what you've done to condition them to work like their Gen X. Because I meet with these kids, I will not take an executive assistant because every time I sit down with one of them, they're like, well, what's the, well, what's the vacation time?
And what's the pay?
And what are my benefits?
Not, hey, I researched your company.
I see that you do X, Y, and Z.
I think I can contribute this to the table based on my background and that.
Like, you don't have that anymore.
When I was a kid, you showed up first and you left last.
And that's how you got ahead.
So I, you know, I love it, but is that realistic for America and for our younger generation?
I don't know.
Adam.
Well, have you ever heard Jamie Diamond talk like that?
I've never seen Jamie Dimon in public.
Well, it was leaked.
I mean, so that's my point.
You know what's going on behind closed doors?
He's a freaking badass.
I love him.
I mean, he dropped a G-damn word seven times.
Other than that, wow.
I mean, you can understand what type of leader it is.
But I think it's so interesting that in some capacities, you have, like, let's just use two archetypes.
You have the Jamie Diamond of the world who's basically saying, work your ass off.
I'm in here seven days a week.
Go, go, go.
Sergey Brennan's a billionaire, top 10.
He's a founder of Google, right?
Top 10 richest billionaire in the world.
And then you have the Bernie Sanders crew who's like four-day work weeks, 30-hour work weeks, divergent pathways, the Siesta Spain life.
Everything's covered.
Kyle, your college are going to pay for that.
They're going to pay for everything.
Take your pick.
Well, to me, it's almost as if, you know, because a majority of this with the Zoomers and stuff he's talking about is COVID.
COVID was such an impact that people started working from home.
And guess what?
Comfortable.
The drifters.
They're hanging out.
They're home.
They're not doing trust me.
I know a shitload of them and they're still doing it.
So they get comfortable, just like what you're seeing with Doge with all these federal employees.
They don't want to go back.
Wait a minute.
You're calling me out on my bullshit.
How dare you?
How dare you point out what the hell I'm doing wrong?
And then COVID was one of those main ones that really got everybody just to chill out.
I'm like, I'm what?
I could still do it at home.
And the quiet quitting.
Oh, yeah, I love that.
That's when they don't answer the phone.
It's like the quiet quitting.
They just literally fake it and continue to make it.
I don't know how.
It's fascinating.
Last time when we got in the car after we had dinner, what do I say about John Carlo and Julie?
Absolutely amazing things.
And John Carlo was like one of the biggest surprises that when we got in the car, we're like, amazing.
That was a great dinner.
Amazing.
It's like, you know what it was?
It didn't take long to realize there's a connection.
It's not an act.
Nobody was acting.
But let me tell you, if we had five other people at the table, they would have been so annoyed by us.
I think so too.
There could have been people at the table that would have been so annoyed by us because like attracts like.
So when you're talking about the Gen Zs that are here and the guys that are young that are working, I didn't make them that way.
They found us.
Meaning they're like that and they found a home here.
They came here and then they realized what the culture is like, what I'm doing with them, like, shit, this isn't just an act.
Pat really talks to it and they do it.
Few things I wrote down here with this.
When I had my guys, and I'm building an insurance company, and I would hear guys use their faith and their family as an excuse to not work hard.
It was so funny to me.
Wow, listen, you know, you care more about money and success than I do.
What's important to me is my kids.
I'm like, oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
What a noble guy you are.
Oh, you're so amazing.
You care more about your kids than I do.
Yeah, that's fantastic.
So, your kids, you think you want your kids to do what you tell them to do, or you think they're going to do what you're doing?
There's more caught than taught in parenting.
There's more caught than taught in parenting.
Your kids are going to watch you stay home and be a daddy being at home at the kids all the time.
When they age, they're going to do the same thing.
They're going to be home.
My kids come here, they see how they're working.
They see what the energy is like.
They see competition.
They want to be the same way as well.
That's the different energy that you're giving them.
Family.
So many people use a family.
Well, it's because of this.
It's because of that.
I want to be around my, and you're if you actually put a camera on their house, what they were doing, they're watching TV.
They're watching YouTube videos.
They're watching.
It's not quality time.
That's not called quality time.
You're wasting it, right?
But the other part that's very interesting with this, and I love what Jamie said, I absolutely love.
Jamie had the luxury of being the executive assistant of Sandy Wild at American Express.
Let me say this one more time.
Sandy Wilde, the former CEO of Citigroup, when he was at American Express as an executive, Jamie was his assistant.
He was his EA.
Let me say this again.
Jamie Diamond was the EA to Sandy Wilde.
Sandy Wilde is one of the biggest deal makers of all time.
The guy was a badass mother.
You know what?
He was a beast.
And then the issue happened when he gave Jamie a promotion and Jamie started doing really well.
Jamie was able to shadow somebody that was a killer.
He learned from somebody.
He watched someone.
It's like, oh my God.
So this is what it takes to compete at the highest.
You are part of the luckiest community if you ever work under somebody where you get a chance to see what it really looks like to compete at the highest level.
You're so lucky if you're able to witness that.
Jamie did took advantage of it.
Now they see you're the biggest bank in the world.
And I'll tell you the last thing we can go to the next story.
You know what's one of the scariest things about life?
Here's one of the scariest things about life.
Last night we're having dinner, okay?
And dessert shows up.
And the dessert at this place is the best.
Michael takes care of us.
Michael brought this pistachio ice cream with a 25-year-aged balsamic globe that he put on top of the ice cream and the strawberry.
Ridiculous.
And you're eating it.
The level of euphoria is, it just doesn't, how happy you are, right?
And everybody's trying different things.
And I'm ordering the gnocchi, the El Metriciano style, and all this other stuff that they bring.
And then sugar comes.
And you know what Julian said?
Yeah, I just don't do that.
What do you mean?
I just don't do sugar.
I made a decision a long time ago.
I don't do sugar.
She didn't even say, I don't do dessert.
She says, I don't do sugar.
What do you mean you don't do sugar?
Who talks like that, right?
That's a standard.
But the main point is the following.
In life, we all have a price to pay.
You either pay it now or you're going to pay it later.
So to the Gen Zers that are bitching about Jamie Dimon and a boss they're working at that's driving the hell out of them, let me give you two prices.
You could not pay the price now, and you could just kind of chill and hang out and relax now in your 20s and your 30s and your 40s.
You will pay a massive price in your 70s and your 80s and your 60s.
And that massive price, you know what that price is?
Here's what the massive price is.
Let me paint a picture to you and see if you like this or not.
You're 62 years old.
You got three kids.
You have six grandkids.
Those kids of yours for Christmas have a choice between coming to you to spend Christmas and Thanksgiving with you or the in-laws of the family that they married because those guys made better decisions.
They're in a better place to be able to take care of the kids in a better way and you did and you were smoking weed, kicking back, relaxing, chilling out in your 20s, 30s, 40s.
You're going to sit there in your 60s and 70s in bed and say, how come our kids are not with us?
I wish they were with us, babe.
Or you'll be by yourself saying, man, I wish they was with us.
That's a painful price.
The price of working 60 to 80 hours a week in your 20s and 30s?
Give me a flipping break.
Are you kidding me?
That's the price you're bitching about?
Don't worry.
Wait till that age is in their 60s.
Then call me back.
Manect me by that time and tell me how you feel about the price that you were not willing to pay.
That price on the back end should scare the crap out of everybody.
Should scare the crap out of everybody.
When it comes down to alcohol, drugs, health, relationship, finances, all of that stuff, career.
You can party all you want.
You can chill all you want.
Like this.
Vinny, in 15 years, you and I are 61 years old.
Oh, my God.
Okay, let me tell you why.
Okay, buddy.
Oh, my God.
In 15 years, that's coming.
So let's go to the next story.
Bill Maher, a friend of yours.
Bill Maher endorses Trump-like Democrat to run for president.
When I first read this story, I'm like, who is he talking about?
Watch who he's talking about.
Go forward, Rob.
The Democrats need to find their Trump.
Not the authoritarian part, but the part where a politician bonds with everyday Americans because he talks like them.
And the good news for Democrats is they have that guy.
And his name is John Fetterman.
Oh, Jesus.
After that, instead of curling up the ball, Fetterman went to Mar-a-Lago, where Trump assumed he was one of the guys from January 6th.
That's actually rude.
That's actually rude.
That's your guy.
And afterwards, Trump said, he's not liberal or conservative.
He's just a common sense person, which is beautiful.
And that's the kind of gay adjacent respect Trump usually reserves for Putin.
Trump and Fetterman actually have a lot in common.
They're both plain spoken, anti-elitists who come from money, married exotic immigrant ladies, went to Ivy League schools, and aren't afraid to take on their own party.
And when the wind catches Trump's hair just right, they're both six foot eight.
Look, here's the thing.
Voters aren't really savvy about the issues, but they do have it.
They have made it clear.
What is important to them?
Authenticity, balls, and charisma.
Trump has that package, and so does Fetterman.
He's only been a senator two years, and he's already more famous than most of his colleagues.
Quick, I dare you to name this sad-looking lady from Washington State who's been in the Senate for 30 years.
You can't teach charisma or balls.
Fetterman is that rare Democrat who's not afraid to put the woke nonsense peddlers in his own party in their place, saying things like, wanting a secure border and realizing that it was out of control.
That doesn't mean you're a xenophobe or a racist.
He's been unequivocally pro-Israel.
Brilliant thoughts.
Do you agree with him?
Do you agree with him?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
He's making valid points.
He does, yeah.
With that said, there is something vastly different between Fetterman and Trump.
Trump is a businessman.
He is an exceptionally successful businessman.
And I'm not an economist.
I am not an expert in geopolitics.
But as I have sought to understand some of the things he's doing with our economy and our relationships around the world, I've come to appreciate.
Listen, he does a lot of things I don't like, but I've come to appreciate that in many ways he's brilliant.
And it's from talking to people like you, learning what's behind what he's doing.
That's not Fetterman.
So while Fetterman is down to earth and he's not afraid to call bullshit on his own party, and they're definitely going to need that, there's no question.
Fetterman is not Trump.
And I don't see him.
When you were talking to me last night, explaining how Taiwan is bringing their chips to America and what a big deal that is and why Trump is doing XYZ and then showing me how.
Tom was breaking down the Federman.
That's a good deal.
Do you think Fetterman's going to be capable of that?
I don't think so.
But maybe what if he does this?
Would it be open to you if he Rob, if you can pull that up, if he does this, would you think he would have a shot?
Like, would that change things up?
Now I vote for it.
Would that be like, you know what?
I'm okay with it if this happens.
Only if the beard goes over you.
Tom, your thoughts on this story with Fetterman.
Look, Fetterman, I have a modicum of respect for John Fetterman because John Fetterman appears to be very speaking very plainly.
But when the second coming of Peter Boyle and the monster from Young Frankenstein is the best that you can do, sitting on the Ritz, if everybody knows what I'm talking about.
He says, it's kind of shocking to me that, you know, Bill Maher goes down the entire roll call and there's only one guy that he can come out to.
And he's talking not about positions and business and negotiation.
He's talking about balls, the ability to speak plainly and connect to a populace.
So it shows even with Bill Maher, who's not a dumb guy, and I've seen a real metamorphosis in his positions that I have a lot of respect for.
But, you know.
Fetterman, I think it's good that there's somebody in the Democrat Party that's taking a moderate position and stepping out like this.
I think it's a good thing.
Is he their new messiah?
No.
I don't think so.
I think this is just further proof that the Democratic Party has completely lost their way.
When this guy is the new face of the Democratic Party, potentially, it's like, what do you guys even stand for at this point?
I think it's pretty interesting that because he wears a hoodie, he's down to earth and he's the common man.
He went to Harvard.
He's an elitist.
I mean, like, you don't go to Harvard as just some random schmo.
So you remember when Boris Johnson, who was the UK prime minister, who was like a very smart, eccentric, smart, like elitist guy, what he would do, I don't know if you want to pull up a picture of him, Rob.
He would be in a meeting, let's say we're in a meeting with Pat, and I'm like, all right, Pat, cool, great.
Everything's good.
All right.
I'm going to go speak to the public.
He'd ruffle up his hair and get out there and do a little Chris Farley thing.
You know, Billy's here.
Bobby's here.
Get out there and look like the common man.
But he wasn't.
John Fetterman is not the common man.
He's a 6'8 alien-looking, moderate-looking dude who wears a hoodie.
It's almost like Sam Bakeman Freed, where he'd wear shorts on stage.
You're a freaking senator, bro.
You're going to show up to the inauguration in a hoodie.
Have a little modicum of respect.
Secondly, look at his policies.
He's Medicare for all.
He's pro-union.
This is how you show up to the inauguration.
Come on, bro.
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
He's a joke.
So this is what the Democratic Party is.
So you're either a gay, black, Asian, half-midget lesbian, or you're this guy.
I don't get it.
What are you?
Vinny.
First of all, go ahead.
Yeah, anything that Bill Maher says at this point about politics, obviously you could tell the Trump derangement syndrome.
He can't give no, it's just that one-lane thinking.
And mind you.
No, I totally disagree.
I don't know where you're going with this.
I think Bill Maher is actually doing great these days.
I think he's very, very common sense.
I think he's being very straightforward.
I think he's calling out the woke left.
And he's obviously no fan of certain people on the right.
But he's been very complimentary of people on the right.
But still has, my point, Trump derangement syndrome.
That's the same guy.
When you talk about judge of character, he says he loves Gavin Newsome.
I love the guts.
That's because he lives in California.
He's backing off that a little bit.
He's backing off a little bit.
He's backing off that a lot.
After his house burnt down, maybe he has a little bit of a bunch of people.
Put him on the rim.
May I finish?
May I finish?
I don't trust that guy, especially when it comes to judging that character, because you know what?
He would vote for Gavin Newsom for president.
And this is the same guy.
By the way, let's not forget the left and their choices of who they love.
Michael Avenati, the creepy porn lawyer, they were advocating for him to be the president, Adam.
So the same guy.
They just weren't.
But let's just talk.
Oh, and what did you just say about Bill Maher and Bill Maher and his what?
His woke progressive, you know, men in sports and all that shit.
Yesterday, the Senate voted on the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act, the bill to protect female athletes from barring biological men from competing.
The vote was 5145.
Every single Democrat, including your boy Fetterman, voted against it.
They want men to compete with girls.
So that woke idea.
Are you kidding me?
I'm dead serious.
Yesterday, every single Democratic senator voted against.
Not one guys, all of them.
Chuck Schumer, Sanders, Warren, Booker, all these losers.
So there goes your presentation.
You guys want him for president?
He wants boys to play with girls.
So that, you know, it's BS.
And it's not.
And by the way, and I'm not, I hope everything health-wise is good.
He had a stroke.
He had to have people in his thing type the conscriptions for him.
He has cardiovascular problems.
He was admitted to Walter Reed for clinical depression.
I mean, we don't, I want a healthy, non-short-term.
I'm talking about it this way, though.
And on the Democrat side, we call him Senator.
This is how I process this.
This is how I process this.
Remember when he was campaigning?
He just looked bad.
Yeah.
But in the last six months, when he does his interviews and he gives answers, he actually looks better now when you watch him, right?
But think about it this way.
If I told you a year ago that in March 4th, whatever today is, March 4th, you know, Bill Maher is going to say the face of the Democratic Party is going to be Fetterman.
Would you have believed me?
I'd laugh in your face.
You know what that is, though?
Because there's no one left.
So think about it.
He didn't say AOC.
He didn't say Newsom.
He didn't say Tim Waltz, who just announced that he's open to the idea of running for president in 2028.
He didn't say anybody.
He didn't even say Stephen A. Smith.
He says Fetterman.
Where are they at today for them to say something like this?
And by the way, what you just showed right now, if they can't sit there and realize what policies resonate with no one in America, literally no one in America with these transgender issues allowing men to compete in a woman.
Jillian, what do you think about that when you see this?
Because your reaction to when you saw it.
They just keep digging.
Dude, it's these are 80-20 issues.
80% of the country is against biological males in girls' sports.
And there's no point where they're like, did anybody get this memo?
Like, we're getting our asses kicked on these issues.
This is not a popular position.
And they continue to quadruple down.
I was actually talking to Jank Uger the other day, and he said something that made perfect sense.
He's like, somewhere the corporate left and the woke far left had a marriage that none of us knew about.
And they're locked into this path of self-destruction.
And okay.
And the reason I actually understood what Bill was saying about Fetterman is because I do think it's going to be the Democrat that goes, this is bananas.
These guys are crazy.
And they need a hostile takeover of their party by a guy that's not afraid to call them out on their bullshit.
But after Adam and Vinny just went to, it's certainly not Fetterman.
Yeah.
No, that's not the candidate.
Okay, next story.
Tariffs.
Mexico-Canada tariffs will be implemented due to unacceptable drug flow.
Trump says, Rob, if you can pull up this clip of President Trump and then show what happens to the stock market, the Dow yesterday, here's President Trump.
Go for it.
Very importantly, tomorrow tariffs 25% on Canada and 25% on Mexico, and that'll start.
So they're going to have to have a tariff.
So what they have to do is build their car plants, frankly, and other things in the United States, in which case they have no tariffs.
In other words, you build, and this is exactly what Mr. Way is doing.
By building here, otherwise they'll build, if they did them in Taiwan to send them here, they'll have 25% or 30% or 50% or whatever the number may be someday.
It'll go only up.
But by doing it here, he has no tariffs.
So he's way ahead of the game.
And I would just say that.
You know who that is?
The guy to the right.
You know who that is?
The guy to the right?
That's the chip company, right?
Tom.
TMSC.
That's the one that did $100 billion in the U.S.
Okay.
So tariffs on U.S. while he's saying this, Rob, can you pull up the Bloomberg story of what happened with car prices, what they're predicting is going to be happening?
Car prices are poised for $12,000 surge on Trump's new tariffs.
Okay.
Again, this is Bloomberg.
Bloomberg is not a fan of Trump.
Okay.
Here we go.
President Trump's 25% tariffs on Canada.
Mexico said on March 4th could spike U.S. cars up to $12,000 per study of Anderson Economic Group led by CEO Patrick Anderson.
Is this it, Rob?
Yes.
Play the clip.
Go for it.
So basically they took Anderson Economic Group took a look at certain vehicles that are North American assembled.
I mean, they're built in Canada, Mexico, or the U.S., but they also use a number of parts from various regions.
And the number you said was $12,000 for a particular battery electric crossover.
That's how much the price would go up if these tariffs are implemented, I guess, tomorrow.
It also found that a pickup, a pickup, a gas power pickup would go up by $8,000.
And then they found a small car around $3,600.
So there's a various different actual cars that they anonymized, and they actually did the analysis.
The crazy part is it doesn't even include the cost of steel and aluminum tariffs.
That's not even part of this analysis.
This is just based on what Trump is saying and how automakers could try to work around what they'd have to pay more money for in terms of components.
So it's not exactly a good thing for them.
I mean, not good for consumers either because those are going to be mostly passed on those costs to the consumers by MSRP.
So pretty inflationary there.
You know, for the automakers part, they're lobbying to say, hey, if you're going to do this to us, why not do this to the South Korean automakers and the Japanese automakers who are not being tariffed as heavily and they don't make any of their cars in the U.S., right?
So that's sort of the give and take there, the balance that's sort of part of the negotiation between the automakers, Commerce Department, and Trump at this point.
$12,000 threatening models like Chevrolet Silverado for Bronco Sport.
Average car prices nearing 50%, up 20% from five years ago.
Affordability is already strained, Anderson noted.
So you're talking a real number.
Tom, your thoughts on this story here.
Right.
So if the tariffs stay, which are just now implemented, and if they stay, they will affect the price of the car.
After all the cars that are built right now that are currently in inventory are sold, because those were built with yesterday's materials at yesterday's prices.
After the cars are built today, that the raw materials are already landed and are being assembled into cars as we speak, and all those are sold, then yes, you will get to a point where the automakers are buying things at higher prices.
Most of the time, manufacturers do what's called hedging.
You know, the airline industry, they hedge and store fuel, massive quantities of it, to allow these things to go through.
So what you're seeing is one guy from Anderson Consulting, which is only one, he's only one auto analyst, and he's not even the largest, but they're running him up the flag because he's saying exactly what the mainstream media wants to hear, that it's all there.
So could it all come true if this is still going on in four months?
Sure.
Do I think it's going to still be going on in four months?
No, because the clout that we have behind our tariffs is much higher than the clout that the other side has.
I'll give you a great example.
With the tariffs coming to Europe, Europe, the EU economic union managed to come together and through a retaliatory strike, and you can go look this up, against the United States.
And they are putting tariffs on Harley-Davidson motorcycles and Levi's jeans.
That was an individual action that they took two weeks ago.
So we'll teach those Americans.
We'll put tariffs on Harley's here in Europe, which don't sell particularly well over there, and on Levi's genes, which is an American gene.
And so you can see the tariffs, the market reacts because market only thinks about future things.
CEO says the wrong thing on earnings report.
Boom, stock moves because that's a future.
The stock market is future speculation.
But in terms of the real impact on consumers, what was the third word in that sentence you just looked at?
And the word was could.
Could.
Tariffs set for March 4th could spike.
It's all speculative.
Right now, these are negotiations.
These aren't taxes.
These are negotiations.
If they're still around months from now, yeah, you could have a real live price impact.
From what I understand of this, historically speaking, this could go the wrong way, but I don't actually think that's what he's doing.
I read the art of the deal 15 years ago.
But one of the things that I remember and we've taken away when we negotiate our own contracts is you ask for the sun, the moon, the stars.
And then if you land on the moon, you're doing great.
I wonder if this is not exactly that.
I mean, that said, and not to relitigate what we discussed last night, but when you explained to me that this strategy in particular is what's bringing people into the country to manufacture chips here, like what we just saw with Taiwan, maybe he's legitimately serious.
I'm kind of sitting back and waiting to see how everything Trump's doing will play out.
I think that's the right thing to do.
I think that's the right thing to do to see what happens.
Adam, your thoughts on this here.
I think there's one word that is like overplaying in Trump's head, overplaying, and that's the whole concept of fairness.
I've been treated very unfairly.
We've been treated very unfairly.
They've been taking advantage of us for years.
So all these words like retaliary was reciprocal pricing, reciprocal tariffs, retaliatory.
So you remember, like, it's a weird analogy, but do you remember when Israel and Iran were trading blows about a year ago?
Iran attacked Israel.
Israel attacked Iran.
And they kind of started small.
And then they went again.
And then they did them drones.
And then their missiles.
So the point is, like, once you start something, the other country is going to make a move.
And then you're like, all right, what do we do now?
And you can stop.
Or Iran maybe needs to respond again.
And then Israel basically destroyed their entire air defense missile crisis and then missile systems.
And then Iran's sort of been a sleeping giant for right now.
The point is this.
All these countries are going to respond.
Canada is going to respond.
I think China's already responded with their own 10% increases on tariffs.
Mexico is going to respond.
They're not just going to sit there and take it.
So Jillian brought up a good point.
She's like, I don't know how this is going to work out.
You know, you have someone like Warren Buffett coming out there and basically saying Trump's tariffs on goods are not good.
He says that the tooth fairy doesn't pay them.
Who pays them?
Rob, you have that clip.
Yeah, do you have that?
The consumer is going to end up paying them.
Like Pat pointed out, there's a $12,000.
Cars are going to increase.
The consumer is going to eventually have to pay them.
So you might make the case that we have been treated unfairly and we do need to do something, but that might not work out well in the end.
We're about to find out.
Like Pat said, you start with a negotiation tactic.
You throw out, it's like the art of the deal.
Right.
Throw out something big and bold.
See what they do.
Oh, all right.
You're going to make a move.
And now we negotiate.
You have that clip with Warren Buffett?
Yeah, give me one.
Okay.
So basically, he says tariffs are actually, we've had a lot of experience with them.
They're an act of war to some degree.
So the reason that I said the act of war is that's the Israel-Iran analogy.
Go ahead.
Experience with them.
They're an act of war to some degree.
How do you think tariffs will impact inflation?
Over time, they're attacks on goods.
I mean, the tooth ferry doesn't pay them.
They always ask that.
I love that joke.
So is there an answer for that when people say, you know, inflation persists, consumer prices keep going up?
When's the end in sight?
No, prices will be higher 10 years from now and 20 years from now and 30 years from now.
And what do you think about what's happening in Washington right now?
Technology changes things, all kinds of things, but Washington is Washington.
And the problem with politics is that you tend to have to make tiny compromises as you go along.
Well, these are the pains, though, right, that we're going to have to go through because what's everybody else?
So he's doing this.
Why?
Because they're all screwing us over because it's not reciprocal.
Am I right?
That their tariffs are how much?
How much percentage of them?
Not all of them.
Some of the countries that he's doing are reciprocal tariffs.
But just so you know, after the announcement that was made this morning, Rob, if you want to pull up the story that Apple just released, Canada, I think, just put a tariff on 155 different 15 companies.
Some industries, there's a let me just tell you what just literally this just happened this morning, right now, as this is coming out.
Canada put 25% tariffs on 105 U.S. goods.
Okay.
And you have China added 10 U.S. companies to its unreliable entity list and 15 companies to its export control list, primarily targeting defense and intelligence firms.
And China is now filing a lawsuit within the World Trade Organization against the U.S. over the new 10% tariff.
So they're going to go back and forth right now.
They're going to be doing that.
And then you're going to see who's going to be able to, you know, last the longest time until something flips.
Trust me, what Trump's not going to want is he is pushing in my way I'm processing this.
He's pushing the pressure now because he doesn't want the pressure to be pushed six months, nine months before midterms.
He does not want that.
Okay.
When midterms come and he loses the control, let's just say because the market's not good, he doesn't want that.
So whatever strong positions he wants to take, he better take it right now.
He will not be able to do it next year.
That's all it is.
Next year, you're going to see a very much of a measured right before midterms and then again, strong push coming right after midterms.
And then it's the end of it.
I fully agree with PBD.
And even the numbers show that.
You know, our friend Tom says, words talk, number scream.
Here's an article to CNBC.
This was from a couple of days ago.
The first quarter is on track for negative GDP growth, says the Atlanta Fed.
GDP tracker forecast, 1.5% GDP, shrink for Q1 2025, down from a 2.3% growth estimate, driven by weak consumer spending.
So basically Trump's saying, listen, it might suck for a little bit.
Prices may go up.
Inflation may not be what they call that transitory.
So it might stick around for a little bit, but it's worth it because we're going to shut down the border.
We're going to be treated more fairly.
We're going to tariff some of these countries that need to be basically treated a certain type of way.
But like Pat said, when it comes towards midterms, hopefully prices are less volatile.
And by the way, you got to take a look at this.
Just scroll up a little bit, Rob.
Just scroll it up a little bit.
I'm so sorry.
Can I grab myself?
They'll grab it for you.
Jillian, they'll grab it for you.
It's in your purse.
It's in my package.
Go grab it.
Go grab it.
You guys, I'm so sorry.
It's all apologize.
You're fine.
It's okay, Raymond.
Vinny P is twice the show.
So basically, basically what's going on right now.
Nothing to do with Trump.
What this report is right here, right now with consumer spending.
The consumers ran their credit cards back up to $1.3 trillion.
BNPL delinquencies were shooting up even before the Christmas presents had been unwrapped.
The consumer is very tapped out.
And when you read now the fine print and you get behind the headlines that want to say, oh, because of Trump tariffs is.
No, bullshit.
It's got nothing to do with Trump tariffs.
The Commerce Department's reporting personal spending fell 0.2% in January.
By the way, he wasn't inaugurated until January 20th, ladies and gentlemen.
And missing estimates.
Adjusted for inflation spell half.
Why?
The consumer was tapped out at the end of last year.
And so right now what we have is a president that is trying to get some sanity and equivalency on tariffs, number one.
And number two, he's trying to set the economy up so it can grow, but the consumer is tapped out.
And so I think people need to look at this.
It's very convenient for the mainstream media to say, oh, bad Trump this, bad Trump that.
And by the way, not everything that's going on in the economy right now is good.
We got to get it sorted out.
We got to get cool heads to come together and get these equivalent tariff things have to come together.
But he didn't get inaugurated until January 20th.
And the consumer has been tapped out since the end of last year.
That's a good point.
You are right.
I will give you credit where credit's due because people spend way too much on the holidays.
People spend way too much during Christmas.
People spend way too much.
Trump's only been president for, what is it now, six weeks?
48 days, 48 days, something like that.
But at the same time, they're showing signs of decreasing consumer confidence.
So the whole speculation is that GDP is on track for negative Q1.
So he's still going to be the president over the next few months.
So what they're saying is they are tapped out.
Everything you said is correct, but they're not seeing it that it's getting better and they're not seeing the numbers go up.
What's the stock market returns for the first quarter so far?
It's barely even, right?
Like it's not up big.
As of yesterday, S ⁇ P gave back the gains for the year.
Exactly.
So it's at even.
So the point is, we're going to see how this works out.
But all the gains, all the, I mean, what's Bitcoin at right now?
Is it at 90?
I was going to say it was 86.
Okay.
Remember when it hit 104 or whatever it was a couple weeks ago?
It's at 82.
So all the gains that happened over the last month or so have all been given back.
And now it's even down.
These are speculative forward workers.
You're talking about gains with Bitcoin.
Let me tell you what he just announced on Truth, that the crypto community is going to lose their mind, and they already are, Rob.
I just send it to you.
Those two screenshots and your phone, if you can pull them up.
Yesterday, I want to say it's yesterday on Truth Social, the president said the following, which could be massive.
He said this two days ago.
A U.S. crypto reserve will elevate this critical industry after years of corrupt attacks by the Biden administration, which is why my executive order on digital assets directed the presidential working group to move forward on a crypto strategic reserve that includes XRP, SOL, ZAS Solano, and ADA.
I will make sure the U.S. is the crypto capital of the world.
We are making America great again.
And Rob, go to the next one and look what else he said he's going to add because people were wondering.
And absolutely, obviously, Bitcoin and Ethereum as other valuable cryptocurrencies will be at the heart of the reserve.
I love Bitcoin and Ethereum.
Okay.
So, you know, he does this, the crypto community, if all of a sudden he puts $100 billion into crypto and abyss XRB, they diversified in a way they're going to be doing that.
That's going to be a very interesting move.
I mean, the Bitcoin conference is going to be insane because finally the U.S. has a crypto reserve.
So you're right on what you're saying so far.
But remember, when you're trying to change the way people think and you're trying to change the way relationships are internationally, you have to do it right off the bat because two years is going to come in no time, midterms.
And that's exactly what he's doing.
We won't know if these things are working properly or not till probably end of summer, in my opinion.
I'm saying September, October.
I think it's going to go that long, in my opinion, for us to really see if it's going to be good or not.
AOC asks NPR, host, to clarify the problem when he asks about migrant crisis voters.
Go ahead, Rob.
What extent is immigration as an issue part of your problem with working class voters?
I mean, I guess my question would be, what does the word problem mean?
People voting for the other side and not for you, feeling that Democrats are not serious about the issue in ways that it concerns them.
I think that we have a problem on immigration because of the lack of progress that we've had on this issue.
And as we know, Republicans weaponize that lack of progress.
Of course, there was famously a bipartisan bill last year that the Republican majority in the Senate and also in the House were willing to pass.
President Biden was willing to work with them on it.
And Donald Trump said, do not solve this problem.
As long as it is broken, then it will be politically beneficial for the pressure.
And so it is a problem not just for Democrats.
All right.
So while they're having this exchange about immigration, right?
At the same time, California is waiting for Harris' decision in a governor race, while Tim Waltz is saying he may consider running for, what do you call it, president in 2028?
So California is sitting there saying, is this Harris thing going to happen?
Is it not going to happen?
You know, is the race something that, you know, because Newsom's going to step aside with him starting a podcast and maybe this is a chance for Harris to get in?
Is she going to be vocal about it when she was there the other day?
The reason why I went from AOC to Harris to Waltz to, you know, what we just talked about with Fetterman is who is actually going to be the face of 2028 for the Democratic Party?
Jillian, you've spent time with a lot of folks from the left and even, you know, you're recently kind of been in a different place.
Who do you think?
And maybe if you were an advisor hired saying, Jillian, who would you get behind on the left?
Who would that person be?
Gosh, the one who is the least woke and seems to put their head down and do the best job and focus on the issues at hand.
I originally said Josh Shapiro, but I didn't realize that there may or may not be some scandal in his background.
He's not my governor.
But when I look at the landscape, I don't know who they've got.
They've all just completely lost it.
Remember when Klobucher used to make sense 100,000 years ago?
It just, they've all completely moved so far left that I just don't think they have a candidate, which is why guys like Bill are grasping at straws like Fetterman.
Remember, I remember when she said, listen, I'd love to staple a diploma under everybody's chair here in the room and give you free health care and free college and free this and free that, but it doesn't work that way.
And her search went up exponentially overnight because people knew she wasn't bullshitting them.
She was telling the truth.
Now she's just unrecognizable to me politically.
And I guess I would say Shapiro.
Tom, you think it's going to be a usual suspect?
I just typed it in right now just to see.
I don't know what Google searches, what they're doing.
The other day at CPAC, the leader was JD Vance, and number two was Steve Bannon for CPAC for Republicans, right?
Steve Bannon was two behind JD Vance.
Okay, so JD Vance, he became a star.
But on the left, you see Newsome, you see Whitmer, you see Shapiro, you see Wesmore, you see Budichik.
Who else, is it going to be a usual suspect or is it going to be somebody else?
So what happens, and this is not my opinion.
I mean, let's go back and look at history.
Whenever you have situations like this come up, the party looks around and we all cogitate.
Look at this person, look at that person, look at this person, look at that person.
You know, Antonio Villarosa.
Holy shit, he's still alive, you know, and from LA, right?
And all those things coming up.
What will come back to the top is name recognition because they realize that the voter, the majority of the voter, 80% of those that vote, are living in short attention span theater.
They will go to name recognition.
And that's why I believe right now, and I'm not trying to prognosticate, I believe this is going to be Rick Caruso versus Kamala Harris because both parties are going to go to name recognition.
However, on the Republican side, Rick Caruso, critic of the wildfires, strong guy on sensible policies to rebuild Los Angeles and California.
But I think at the end of the day, the reason they're all waiting for Kamala is because she's the choice of the Democrat establishment.
That's why they're waiting for her.
They're not saying, hey, if you don't make a decision in 10 minutes, we're going this way.
And Antonio Villarosa and Elena Kunicalis is they're each going to get 15% of the preliminary money.
No, that's not what they're saying.
They're saying we're waiting on her because if all she has to say is, I'm doing it and we're going with her because that's the name recognition they want.
And if you go back and look at how primaries and a lot of things happen, that's usually how it shakes out.
You're saying for the governor of California or for the president?
He's talking about the gubernatorial.
That's what you're talking about.
I'm talking about the decision in the governor's race.
Kamala Harris.
Presidential.
We were talking about President Trump.
That's what I was talking about.
Tom was with us.
Tom can't even imagine one of them as the president, so he just dropped it down to governor.
No, I thought we fed you oysters last night.
Like good vitamin food.
No, I was answering the question about the California government.
Watch this here.
Rob, this is what you pulled up.
Rob has this here.
Harris at the top.
What side is this, Rob?
This is from 538.
Okay, so 538 has Harris at the top.
Then Butichej, then Walt.
Look at these people.
Then Newsome.
Newsome is fourth as of right now.
Ocasio-Cortez is fifth.
Whitmer, Shapiro, Cuban.
Then it's Federman, Pritzker, Warnock, Booker, Crock, Crockett.
Seriously, Crockett?
From Miami Verde.
Miami Weiss?
I'll get an 80s reference, not a 40s reference.
Do you know who the Crockett is?
Is that the Crockett?
Is that Jamie Prock?
Jasmine.
No way.
No clue.
Not her.
Oh, my God.
She's the worst.
Wow, they have her on that list.
Okay.
Great.
Let's see what the next name is.
Polis and then Bashir and Gallego.
Gallego.
Morin Smith.
Why even put them on there?
They're at 0%.
It's a 0.3, 0.4% type of a thing.
Vinny, what do you think?
Well, first of all, can we go back to the Ocasio AOC?
Which I, Adam, you made a great observation.
I think she's pregnant.
I'm just going to throw that out there.
That's a first thing I thought about.
I thought she was because the last video she made.
Anyway, that's beside the point.
She is a liar.
Her saying good to know that she thinks that women can have babies.
Thank God for that.
I don't know if she knows.
She is an absolute lying through her teeth and shame on him for not saying thing.
She's talking about that border bill that Trump didn't want and that they said no and they don't care about migration.
No, no, that border bill had $60 billion going to Ukraine, $14 million going to Israel, and $4.5 billion going to Taiwan.
So she's full of poop.
Okay.
But I think the language is.
I'm sorry, Tom.
I apologize.
Jillian Mike sheds up traveling.
Jillian, I apologize.
But before you guys won't do that, let her breathe.
They have zero.
The Democratic, the left, the party is absolutely cooked.
Look who they have to pick for even that.
Kamala Harris.
It's you guys, the Democrats that have even listened to this.
You have Stockholm syndrome.
You have fallen in love with your freaking abuser.
And like you said, Jillian, and it is you.
They can't make the switch.
Even if, like, listen, like, they're going to need a savior.
They're going to need like somebody like a Stephen A. Smith.
They'll crucify that person.
They will burn his ass to the ground.
No, what do you mean, Steve?
Listen, be honest.
If Stephen A. They're never going to embrace a guy like that.
He's going to call them out on their bullshit.
But that's what they need.
That's what they need.
That's what Trump did.
That's what they need, but they don't.
They need a hospital takeover.
I understand.
That's my point.
But here's the actual point.
The only way they're going to have hope, Adam, is that type of shit.
Somebody to come in like a Trump and flip the whole table.
Let me tell you, the current status of the Democratic Party, and it does not give me great pleasure to say this, is they got no hope and Bob Hope.
And Bob Hope's been dead for having, like, they got nothing.
It's completely up for grabs at this point.
The fact that Tim Walz is like, yeah, I'm thinking about handling Tim Walz.
Listen, Tampon, Tim, sit this one out.
Kamala Harris was the worst candidate they ever run in our lifetime.
And she's in first place?
This Brown's in first place.
So if you're a Republican, congratulations because you're going to be here.
Gavin Newsome, in my opinion, is still the guy.
Can I ask your opinion on this?
Let's see what happens with that.
No way.
Not after the fires.
There's just no chance.
He's going to play a Billy Joel song.
He's going to say, We didn't start the fire.
He's going to do a little bit of a bad thing.
It's not even going to be cleaned up by the time.
There's no plan to clean it up.
You realize that.
There's nobody in charge of this mess.
Literally, there's no one cleaning up the wreckage and the carnage out there.
And this is going to haunt him.
I disagree.
I disagree.
So you give Democrats that, you give the left that much credit that even the slick Willie talking with this podcast and the first line of his promo was, let's change the conversation.
You think you genuinely think so?
I don't think they're, listen, a lot of them have moved to a place where they're never Trumpers, but I would vote for a Republican.
Just never Trump.
That's what you end up hearing.
They don't do any homework on the fact that the things they're outraged about their own party did 10 times more of.
For example, immigration, illegal immigration.
It's like, well, you know, Clinton deported 12 million people.
You know, Obama deported 3 million people.
And Trump deported one.
Like, where was your outrage?
Those are Obama's cages.
Did you do any homework?
I mean, Biden ruled back all of Trump's border policies.
And with the swipe of a freaking pen, they could have stopped this, but they didn't.
But so, so beyond the fact that, you know, listen, they've planted their flag, they're blue, but they really do hate this guy.
He is hated throughout the state.
I'm seeing it more and more with people that are far, far left.
And you're starting to hear things like, I would vote for a Republican, just never Trump.
Okay, so let me ask you this, Jillian Michaels.
Hypothetical, those people you're talking about, the blue no matter who, they're never Trumpers, and they hate Gavin Newsome.
They do.
He is hating.
If you're looking at a ballot and they see Gavin Newsom versus Donald Trump, Donald Trump's not.
Who are the never Trump?
Who are they going to vote for?
Gavin.
So that's my point.
But Trump is not going back in.
But that's not.
It's going to be JD Vance or somebody.
It's called a hypothetical.
But if you give them someone that is more moderate, that they can kind of get their head.
No, you don't think so.
So the part to look at that was the most impressive of what happened to America out of all the data points that everybody was showing.
Well, let me tell you, Pennsylvania, this.
Well, let me tell you about this.
And let me tell you about this.
You know what's the most shocking data?
The fact that every state in America became more Republican.
But out of all the states that became more Republican, two states became more Republican than any other state.
You know what those two states were?
California and New York.
Yeah, that was the weirdest day.
You're like, what?
Remember that whole thing with the map or pink thing?
You're like, are you serious?
So I don't know.
I don't know.
He's been hit the hardest by it, Pat.
That's why.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, you know what I would do if Newsome is coming out to the day to announce that he's running for president that day.
If Trump's camp really wanted to pull off a great troll, get a hold of the DJ, influence the DJ to play a walk-up song, and the song is by Starship.
We built this city, right?
We built this city to say this city, right?
Like if there's one city, what's the non-liberal policies, right?
We burned this city.
We burned this city on liberal policies.
That's what they got to say, right?
We didn't start the fire.
Hey, we got a place burning since Kevin Nurson's been turning.
So the point is, I mean, dude, the part that with Americans today with social media, the world has become like Dory from finding Nemo.
Oh my gosh, that's so accurate.
Hi, what's your name?
I'm Patrick.
Hi.
Hi.
Oh, COVID never happened.
Hey, hi.
Right?
So, this thing that people are so quick to forget what we forgot about the essential, non-essential.
We got to take care of Jerry Michaels.
I just can't laugh.
Right?
You know how many people were getting the non-essential.
Remember, Gerard?
I think Gerard got the tattoo.
Didn't he get Gerard get a tattoo non-essential?
Oh, yeah, I think he did.
You're like, dude, screw you.
Like the part, the biggest part is anybody that's in the documentary business, anybody that's in like the people that do a great job.
There's so many of these guys, phenomenal job.
All of those documentary people have to make sure, take five companies, have five different documentaries to produce, and launch them all in 26 and then one in 28, just to remind everybody what they'll happen because they're going to forget.
And that's the biggest thing.
If you create a documentary about California fires and what led to it, I guarantee you, and you launch it in 2027, that documentary is directed to Newsome because he's going to run.
Okay.
Then you run a documentary.
If you intentionally time these things to make people smarter, everyone's forgetting about what happened.
Like Michael Jordan, you know what?
What static?
I have a note section in my phone of purely one thing.
And I collect Michael Jordan debate things.
Okay.
And look at this.
If I find it, it's like, you know, young boys collect pictures of, you know, whatever pictures it is.
Yeah.
For me, it's that's a Michael Jordan Kobe debate.
You know which one I just found?
Check this one out.
Crazy.
Rob, I'm going to send this to you just to play it, just so you see, because people forget about who Michael Jordan was, right?
They forget.
I saw this stat the other day.
I'm like, holy shit, what this guy did.
The question is, how many 50 win teams did people eliminate in the playoffs?
Okay.
50 win teams.
All right.
They have Michael on the list.
They have Kobe on the list.
They have Magic on the list.
They have Tim Duncan on the list.
They have Larry Bird on the list.
They have LeBron James on the list.
And everybody wants to say LeBron James the greatest, right?
Rob, can you do me a favor and pull up this picture that I just said?
I just found this, right?
Look at this.
Okay.
Kobe eliminated 25 50 win teams.
Michael 20, Duncan, 18, Magic 13, Burt 10.
LeBron has 12.
And LeBron's played twice as many seasons nearly as Michael Jordan.
He's at 12.
Kobe, 25.
Why is this important?
People forget Michael.
They forget who Michael was.
They forget.
They forget what this guy did, right?
So everybody's just today, they think about LeBron, LeBron, LeBron.
We have to make sure documentary folks produce the best documentaries reminding us what happened to California, reminding us what happened to COVID, because by 2027, 2028, a lot of people are going to forget.
Okay.
Let me go to the next story.
This next story is very important.
And Jillian, I kind of need your help with this one because we got, you know, we got a lot of guys here and we kind of want a literary perspective.
So, uh, why men can't help falling in love faster?
They screw this thing up.
Gosh, I don't see that.
Let me read it.
Let me read it.
Maybe let's tear this guy apart if the argument's terrible.
Australian National University researcher.
That's the qualifier.
Australian.
I mean, national university.
You know what's going on?
Found men fall in love faster and more often than women, averaging 2.6 times versus 2.3 times.
And saying, I love you a month earlier per a study of 800 people ages 18 to 25.
The team notes falling in love one month earlier provides men with a greater opportunity to use romantic love to promote courtship, with men nearly twice as likely to fall before a relationship starts, driven by a fitness landscape, favoring quantity of potential mates.
Women take longer, they take 1.92 months to develop intense feelings.
But once smitten, they dwell on partners, 54% of waking hours versus men, 44% of waking hours, showing deeper commitment.
Researchers explain females begin choosing then males seek quality over quantity, contrasting men quicker plunge into love as an honest signal of commitment per the biology of sex differences journal.
Do you agree with this?
No.
Okay, here's why.
There's a joke about lesbians.
So you've got female energy squared, right?
What do they bring on a first date?
A U-Haul.
That is not a joke about straight men or gay men.
In other words, women instantaneously are like, oh my God, I love you.
Let's move in together.
Let's, that's a notoriously female thing.
So you get two of us together, and that's where you end up.
So I'm going to say, no, a lot of my guy friends, like, they take a long time.
They're very discerning.
And women nowadays, I'm sorry to say this.
This is going to be very unpopular, but I think that they sleep around too much.
And I think they give themselves away too easily.
I think that makes men lose interest pretty quickly.
And I find that all my guy friends tend to wait for the girl that made or fall for the girl that made them wait.
I know that's not going to be popular, but it's what I've observed in the course of my life.
Did you make a movie about that?
It was a lady something, the book that became a movie.
Think like a woman, think like a man.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Yes.
Yes.
Think like a man, act like a lady.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Act like a lady, think like a man.
Became a movie.
Actually, a very good movie.
And he had a rule of 90 days.
So in the movie, they're fooling around.
The guy's like, dude, I'm about to freaking go crazy.
Like, you got to wait 90 days.
You got to wait 90 days.
It's actually a very, very funny movie.
You will laugh your ass off.
Rob, can you type in act like a lady, think like a man movie, act like a lady, think like a man movie?
See, that's it.
That's it.
Think like a man.
That's the movie.
Oh my God.
Kevin Hart's in it.
Vinny, it is absolutely watch it now.
You know who the other guys are in there?
You know who they are.
All the guys from the 40-year-old version.
Oh, man.
Did you write this?
Did you write this to a girl?
Hey, I did.
Faux.
He goes, damn, bitch.
Who talks like this?
You know what?
You don't talk like that to ladies, right?
But do you agree, Tom?
Do you agree with what Jillian's saying?
And then I'm going to come to Adam.
Do you agree that men, you know, because this article is saying men fall in love faster?
She's saying no.
What are your thoughts?
I don't.
I get the feeling, you know, at least my generation, the men are a little pickier.
And they may be, you know, remember there's two speeds for men, right?
There's men that give fake love to get sex, and then women that will give sex, but they get fake love, right?
And that's like the fallacy.
That's a fallacy of the hookup generation.
Can't believe you're talking about Adam Live on the air like that.
So I think men tend to be men tend to be pickier and are less quick to want full commitment.
Go ahead.
That's great.
That's what I think.
What a breakdown.
Adam, your thoughts.
I'm going to say this out loud.
Tom's absolutely right.
Bingo.
I'm telling you right now, I know guys, cut to Tom.
Got ganged.
But I do know men who basically are like, I love you, baby.
Like, oh my God.
And the women are like, oh, my God.
And they might use that line from time to time.
They're full of shit.
And then maybe they're like really good-looking guys, and maybe they do that and they say that.
And then they end up marrying Kim Kardashian.
I know a guy that did that.
Right between the lines.
Or they're a realtor in Miami.
Here, drink this.
That's true.
All right, Tom.
You're revealing a little too much.
But I tell men this all the time.
I got you.
There we go.
I tell men this all the time.
Dark spin.
Tom's a dark dude.
Go ahead, bro.
He went there.
Men, if you need any advice when it comes to women, it's this.
Try your best.
I know it's going to be hard to not fall in love with your eyes.
Because some of these girls, especially on the Graham, especially on these dating apps, damn, they look good.
But there's something called FaceTune.
There's something called push-up bras.
There's something called plastic surgery.
There's something called makeup.
These girls look damn good.
I'm just going to say it.
You know, like, what's the whole joke with Dave Chappelle?
He's like, you know, I'm talking, she's looking good.
I'm like, she's wearing a turtleneck.
Her titties are still popping out of chest.
Like, sorry about that, Tom.
I know that, you know, your Hummer lifestyle ain't about this.
But for men, you see a girl and it happens and they're like, oh, my God.
And you're like, I think I love her.
I love her.
And then the makeup comes off.
You know, the dress comes off.
She has a penis.
You don't need that.
Yeah, exactly.
Last week.
Whereas women, exactly.
It's the crying game.
So for men, there's a difference between love and lust.
One of our guys went to it in Brazil.
Well, he's been in Brazil yet.
Oh, really?
I just learned about Kim Petrus the other day.
I told you.
The guy who had a great suit on, not the guy with the great hair, but the great girl.
Antonio.
But the point is, men fall in love so quickly because you fall in love with your eyes.
Damn, you look good.
And then you get to know her.
Then you find out she knows all these questions and then you have to go.
Let me ask you a question.
Hang on, Adam.
I'm falling in lust.
I agree.
But you're not going to say, hey, baby, I'm falling in love.
This says love.
That is not love.
How many girls have you said I love you to Adam?
How many girls have I said?
What time is that?
What time is that?
I'm actually very protective.
Adam, don't hold him.
Somebody hold him.
How many times?
How many like serious, serious, serious relationships have I been in my life?
48.
Probably like four.
How many girls you said I love you?
Well, Naomi, your girl.
There were four girls who said I love you.
Yeah, my wife, my ex-wife, I think I told her that.
Then the other one.
You think you told her that?
So four.
How many girls?
Seven.
I was in the military.
I was like, I love you.
I was in Montana.
I was here.
I just.
How many guys?
Four.
Okay, perfect.
Yeah.
What?
My dad, my brother?
Jillian.
How about you, Jillian?
Okay, so.
Jillian, how many women have you told you love?
How many men have you told you loved?
Okay.
Oh, here we go.
I did have a boyfriend when I was 17.
I did love him.
I don't know that I was attracted, but he did love him.
It sounds very puppy dog.
That was a bit.
Yeah.
Okay, then I got to think of pretty much every freaking girlfriend because that's what girls do.
And I think I've had, I don't know, like seven of them.
So thank you.
Play on, play on Jillian, okay?
I mean, I'm old.
I don't know if it's that I'm a player or just a lot of time.
So seven.
I think probably.
And what was your longest relationship?
My wife now.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it's like seven and a half.
Well, wait, for this, how many people have you have told you they love you?
Oh, I'm in the middle of all of them.
I love you.
Tom, that was so close.
100.
Tom, 100%.
How many bitches have told you they love you?
Listen.
I love you, Tom.
That's one.
That's one.
I love you too, Tom.
Tom had an air.
Tom had a lot of time.
See, Tom doesn't love me yet, which goes.
Yeah, there you go.
I already love Tom.
Hold on, hold on.
I got a grow on Tom.
How many women have you?
No.
I love you.
I love your authenticity.
I love your openness.
Why you got to pre-qualify it?
Just say I love you.
That's it.
We don't need the precursor.
Jillian, I love your inhaler.
I love everything.
Yeah.
PBD.
I'm not all sappy like that.
Tom, today and last night.
I had a good deal of respect.
We're going to go to PBD now.
We're going to go to PBD now.
Oh, because it's his show.
We're going to ask him a question.
I've had your DVDs on my shelf for 20 years.
I told her that was hunt.
It's love.
Next to your Tybo videos.
There were his wives, but still.
That's right.
Dude, you know.
PBD, how many women have you said I'd love you too?
I think it's two.
Two?
Obviously, Jen?
No, it's three.
Okay.
Because it's three, three.
Yeah, it's three.
It's very like, that is not a word I drop.
That's like a so risky.
Yeah.
And why is it risky?
For the amount of commitment and like stuff that comes with it.
No, I'm like, listen, I like you so much.
Yeah.
Oh, that can't go over.
I like you so much.
Uh-oh.
We're almost there, but I like you.
Maybe one day I'll love you.
But I like you.
How'd that work out for you?
Guess what?
It wasn't public relationship.
I had a lot of private relationships that I. If you walk next to me publicly, it's a statement to the market.
So I was very selective.
So if you're with me publicly, I'm telling the world you're mine.
This is a serious thing going on.
But if it's private, like friends would go out, they're like, hey, man, who's this girl?
And I'm like, like when a dog bees on a tree, but it's like a girl.
It's got to be like that.
That is marked.
Yeah.
I like that.
Great job, Jen, locking this night.
So, no, it's not.
It's a red book.
Yeah.
No.
Oh, hold on.
Here we go.
How long did she make you wait?
Whoa.
How long did who?
Jen, how long did she make you wait?
Oh, same night.
What did we talk about?
What?
That's good, man.
Jen is going not to consciousness.
No, it was a minute.
It was a minute because we went through the book that we read.
There was a whole process of, and I was at a place because I was dating four girls at the same time.
And I was telling all of them, I'm not being promiscuous.
I'm trying to look for a wife.
There were four girls I liked, and I was talking to all of them.
And every one of them asked me, please don't, because I knew the girls for many years.
She knows the girls.
Jennifer knew the girls as well.
And I'm like, look, man, this is kind of where I'm at.
If we get to the next phase, I'm looking for a wife.
I'm not looking for a girl.
So it was four girls and then boom.
Who's the last one that slept with you?
Last one that slept with you.
Yeah, who slept with you?
Who held out the longest?
Trying to prove a theory here.
I've been married for 15 years.
We've been together for 18 years.
Dude, I don't even know.
But out of those four, I'm guessing Jen was the holdout.
Yeah, I would say yes, probably.
But I would say the three.
I don't know.
No, you weren't dating Jen at the same time you were dating the other three.
Like Jen was separate, right?
No, no.
I'm talking to all four.
Remember, this is very public.
Everybody knows it's very, very public.
It was very open.
It wasn't something that I'm like, you know, beating around the bush.
It was like, hey, I'm not ready.
But if I know we can go through the questionnaire, let's see what we're going to be at.
Okay.
And then boom.
Four kids later, we're at 15 years, and I think we'll make it to 16.
I think it's a good thing.
We take it one year at a time.
I would bet by the time.
That's marriage.
One year at a time.
It's like, you know, after like a big argument, family, whatever issues, a bunch of shit happens, Sports Center, ESPN embassy shows up.
So how is everything going on?
You know, we're just taking it one day at a time.
This nourishment is we got to get back and go to the drawing board and look at some of the video awaiting you.
We're focusing on the Eagles.
We're watching tape.
And we're going to figure it out.
We're going to figure this thing down and see what we're going to do.
It's kind of how this works, man.
This is.
All right.
Let's do one last story and then we wrap up.
And then Vinny's going to take me to the hospital.
Yeah.
Okay.
Jillian, I'm so sorry.
Guys, this is what happens when you have kids.
They still infect you.
Yeah, funny.
It's unbelievable, ungrateful little kids.
Vinny gets it from other kids.
By the way, you know, let's do this one here.
So conservatives explode at botched Epstein document rollout complete disappointment.
Okay.
And Vinny's one of them.
Rob, is that a clip that you have?
Here we go.
I want to go to the next one and then we'll wrap it up if you have this.
Is this Jesse?
I have Jesse Waters and I also have Pam Bondi.
Pam Bondi discusses a dump trunk full of documents.
Okay, I saw this one.
Go ahead and play this clip.
Go for it.
We all did.
And the FBI handed over a couple hundred pages of documents.
But, you know, Sean, I gave them a deadline of Friday at 8 a.m. to get us everything.
And a source had told me where the documents were being kept.
Southern District of New York shock.
So we got them all by hopefully all of them.
Friday at 8 a.m., thousands of pages of documents.
I have the FBI going through them.
And Cash is also, now that we have Cash here, it's a game changer, of course.
And Cash is going to, Director Patel is going to get us a detailed report as to why the FBI withheld all of those documents.
Okay, I want to be clear because I think people got frustrated because they were expecting more.
You were expecting more.
And you didn't find out less than 24 hours before the release, you got a whistleblower that confirmed that there were way more documents that they were supposed to turn over.
And then you found out just before that.
Well, sure.
And you're looking at these documents going, these aren't all the Epstein files.
You know, there were flight logs, there were names and victims' names.
And we're going, where's the rest of the stuff?
And that's what the FBI had turned over to us.
And so a source said, whoa, all this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New York.
So based on that, I gave them the deadline.
Friday at 8, a truckload of evidence arrived.
It's now in the possession of the FBI.
Cash is going to get me and himself, really, a detailed report as to why all these documents and evidence had been withheld.
And, you know, we're going to go through it, go through it as fast as we can, but go through it very cautiously to protect all the victims of Epstein because there are a lot of victims.
Well, you had identified and then the next one you have as well.
Is it anything different with Jesse Rob or no?
No, more just him questioning.
There are some interesting ties that he does bring up to the SDNY and who is investigating this case.
So who's in charge at the New York FBI field office?
James Denney.
Who's withholding Epstein docs from the Attorney General?
James Denahy is running the show there.
There he is.
This is the guy who emailed his whole staff to dig in after Trump took office.
And don't forget that James Comey's daughter is an assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.
And she worked on the Epstein and Maxwell cases.
She's kind of knee-deep in this.
Epstein was facing sex trafficking charges in lower Manhattan.
Where's all that paperwork?
The FBI sees computers, surveillance videos, banking records, file cabinets, and photographs from all of Epstein's properties in New Mexico, the Virgin Islands, Palm Beach, and in New York.
The Justice Department also gave Epstein a sweetheart non-prosecution deal 17 years ago.
Where are those files?
The Bureau of Prisons.
Where are those files?
You remember where Epstein killed himself?
I asked Bill Barr about that.
Why everything seemed to go wrong that night.
When I first heard all the information and all the coincidences here, I was suspicious.
What were the coincidences?
I mean, those were a lot of coincidences.
One of the cameras was out.
Right.
He was supposed to have a cellmate.
Cellmate left.
They didn't replace the cellmate.
And the guards who were supposed to check him every half hour didn't go there.
Here's kind of where I'm going to this.
All right.
So let me tell you where I'm going with this.
So then the story says, let me just tell you that Jelaine Max will consider him seeking presidential pardon and da-da-da-da-da from Trump.
She's seeking this.
She's seeking pardon, which guess what?
If she's prompting the seek, I'm liking that.
And I'll tell you why.
Jelene Max, for 20 years, some pardoning from President Trump, her old friend, a Tallahassee prison source, to the mirror.
They all know how close she once was to him.
She tells people often enough, often enough, after Phil 2023, Piclemic Florida Peel, Shielder signing friends now push.
What has she to lose?
Okay.
Noting the Trump's recent pardons and her silence on Epstein, Trump and Epstein, Pastor Lisa.
Okay.
All right.
So that's that story.
Vinny, for you, I have my thoughts and I have a solution.
I have an idea that I think a lot of people, if you're supporting this, share it.
But I'm going to go to Vinny first.
You hear this.
How do you feel about it?
Well, first of all, James Denahy.
So if you guys didn't catch what he said, he's the head of the FBI's New York field office.
He was forced.
He didn't just bounce.
He was forced to retire because they accused him, Pam Bondi, and all them, because he's hiding thousands of five.
Why would this guy, an FBI agent, because mind you, Kash Patel's in?
I think people, there's a misconception, Jillian, that people think that all the people that are in all of a sudden switched and now they're pro-Trump and they're pro-this agenda.
And that's not the case.
Just like back in Russia collusion with Peter Strzok, Andy McCabe, Lisa Page, it was all we're going to have an insurance policy.
And when for him to say we're going to dig in, that means those same people are still in charge and they're still protecting each other.
And James Comey's daughter, guys, you guys all remember who Jamie, James Comey is, the Trump-hating Hillary Clinton covering up guy.
His daughter is the assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, where all these documents are.
So as much as these people are promising us, I still, Vincent O'Shaughana, don't think it's still going to see a light of day because all those people, guys, we have to understand what this was.
Whoever he worked for, FBI informant, Mossad, CIA, let's just say he was working for all three.
There is footage.
There is a tape of all these elites, all these higher-ups that you guys all are thinking about.
Allegedly, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, all these higher-ups, there's footage of them.
And the fact that they're not, it's not going to see the light of day shows you how powerful these people are.
The phone calls that are being made saying, don't you guys dare put that shit out?
Because guess what?
Your friend, your brother, your whatever, we have footage of them.
Because I'm almost popular.
I've been saying this forever.
Imagine, Jillian, you go to this island and you're all there chilling.
Go home and you think life is good, and you get an encrypted email that says, Hey, listen, we want X, Y, and Z. You're a governor, you're a president, whatever.
And you say no, they go, Oh, yeah, click on this link, and it's you with an underage person that you had no idea about.
They got you for the rest of your life.
It's over.
I don't think anything's going to come up, Pat, because all these people are all connected.
Judges, politicians, right?
Yeah, you know, and you're in there playing hide the salami with these underage kids.
And now he's being honest.
Hey, guys, he's on fire today, man.
I'm a little bit shut it down already.
Have an inhaler in the other room if you need it.
Well, guys, no, Tom, because I mean, you're horrible.
Well, it's horrible.
Kosher, go ahead.
Man, by the way, you know, like at least 500 kids are Googling right now.
What is hide the salami?
Don't do that.
What the heck?
You're a dad.
Oh, jeez.
This is bad.
Go ahead, Tom.
Well, you're free.
But go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, I more rope.
Go ahead.
You give them more rope, Pat.
Go ahead, Tom.
We found the salami.
Go ahead.
No, Tom.
We're waiting.
I mean, first of all, you want to give us more details?
Where is the salami from?
What part of Italy?
Is it Milan?
Is it you know, if you're going to go there, tell me.
What do you want to do?
We're going to Mogan.
This is the essence.
This is the essence of blackmail.
This is the same reason.
Nobody is talking on Diddy, right?
Because everybody's caught.
Everybody's caught.
But why does it have to be a blackmail?
Because it's Diddy.
Like, what's the salami?
No, no, no.
They're no, Blackmail, like M-A-L-E or M-A-I-L.
No, it's extortion and I'm not going to die out.
Yeah.
Just trying to see the cop, Tom.
Hey, Kim, whatever you did to Tom this morning, he is wild.
It was all.
Whatever you did.
He's wild summers.
But let me tell you my idea.
Here's my idea.
Coffee.
Seven is my limit.
Tell me.
Tell me what you think about this.
Tell me what you think about this.
Oh, my God.
Okay, so you know how the question is.
Hey, we're going to go find if the gold is at Fort Knox.
Okay.
By the way, do you know since the inception of Fort Knox, it cost $540,000 to build.
They built it in one year.
And after they built it, they moved roughly 400, 50% of our gold is at Fort Knox.
That's hidden there.
They have security on top of security on top of security that's in this place.
Do you know since then, the first time till today, how many times they've opened it up to be seen?
Three times.
How many years?
How many years?
In 70 years, it's only been three times, 80 years.
Only three times people have gone in to see if the actual gold is there.
And no one's ever touched and audited to see if all the gold is there, right?
Yeah.
So what does Trump say?
Trump and you know why they chose this place?
They bought 40 acres of land.
They wanted it to be in a place that doesn't have earthquake, no fault line, fault line, no, nothing like that.
They do get hurricane and tornado in this area because it's in Kentucky, right, Rob?
It's like 20 miles outside of Louisville, if I'm not mistaken.
Very interesting thing about Fort Knox.
And guess what?
Trump and Musk want to do.
They want to go visit this place.
You know, if you really want to know what happened with Epstein, you know what I would do?
I'm going to go visit Jelaine Maxwell.
I'm going to go and say, hey, I'm the president.
I'm sending Kash Patel and Pam Bondi to come and talk to her.
And let's strike a deal.
We'll give you a lifetime protection that nothing can ever be done to you if you tell us everything about everything.
It's a lifetime, what do you call it?
A pardon?
Yeah.
And a place.
The negotiation.
If when Sammy the Bull did his deal, they allowed him to do facial surgery to reconstruct the way he looks so the audience wouldn't recognize him.
If they say we'll do anything and everything to make you go back to having a normal life, et cetera, et cetera, but tell us all of it.
They can do that, can't they?
1,000% they can't.
Will they do that?
No.
No way.
No way.
Somebody knows all of it already.
They do.
If they get involved with her, it implies a connection.
Last night, Vinnie was talking about how if Trump pardoned her, he's voting for Kamala.
Yeah, I'm voting for Kamala.
If Donald Trump, I'm saying, well, that's a whole different situation.
If they just, because she's saying, like, she's been foiled by.
Hold on.
You're saying you're voting for Kamala.
Why?
She's joking about the Kamala thing.
But if, first of all, if we don't get to, if they don't get to the bottom of this in this four years, and if Trump pardons her without that type of stipulation, I am, because you know where I'm going back to?
I can't give a shit about the guy.
People are perverting.
They're going to have to deal with God.
It's the children, the underage kids that these people have destroyed.
And the lack of care for kids in this fucking country drives me through the wall.
And they're like, we're going to cover the victims' names.
Okay, that's fine.
I want, from day one, we've been saying accountability.
But if this, if nothing happens, and every day, Pat, every single day I'm posting, we were promised the JFK.
We were promised 9-11.
We were promised Epstein and nothing's happening.
I'm counting business days.
We're on day seven.
That bullshit influencer.
Oh, oh, look at, I'm holding.
That was a shit show.
That was embarrassing.
What are you guys, what are you guys doing?
There's children involved.
There's kids involved.
You guys have kids.
You guys have kids.
Imagine that 12-year-old that was there right here.
You were raped and then they potentially.
Did not let her go.
And we're playing this game.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
So if they do that, I mean, that's a great idea.
I mean, if she spills the beans, but if they just pardon, no, I'm not playing that game, bro.
I voted for this is what I voted for.
For the country to be back, for the border to be closed, and for these demons, these demons to be held accountable.
Like Fauci, he pardoned everybody.
He pardoned everybody.
I want, get the state involved.
We deserve one person.
I don't give a shit who it is.
I don't care if it's Bill Gates or whoever.
I want one person going to jail.
One.
Give us one.
Is that asking for too much, Tom?
No, and it seems pretty simple.
The federal government's in possession of all these files.
Yep.
You don't need to be able to do that.
Go redact.
Redact the kids' names and the things that you need to redact.
And then let's see.
It's not like you have to investigate it.
You have everything.
And if there is a, you know, if you've got you get, you pardon Maxwell and she gives you the names of celebrity number 81, you know, and some poor schlepp celebrity goes to prison, right?
It's sort of like the end of the movie, The Big Short, where the only guy that went to jail was that one guy from Deutsche Bank.
Remember?
Yeah.
And they go to the end of it and they tell you, you know, everybody went to jail.
Actually, no, no one went to jail.
They all went on doing what they're doing except this one guy from Deutsche Bank.
If that's what they do, then I think you have less trust after than you have right now.
Thank you.
I agree.
Well, I think the one person that did go to jail was Jillene Matt.
She's the guy from Deutsche Bank.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, she's the sacrificial Lamb.
She was the sacrificial Lamb, yes, but she was there the whole time.
So I don't know.
I mean, I think Andrew Tate brought up a good point.
I know that you're a big fan, Julianne.
And he says, look, and I understand where you're at.
I understand that there's major ramifications.
What does Andrew Tate have to say about the answer?
Oh, he basically said, listen.
They said there's going to essentially said, listen, are we really going to bring down this person and this person at the expense of $100 billion?
At the expense of whether it's Will Gates.
No way.
Whether it's Leon Black, whatever name, whatever amount of money, are you really going to open up Pandora's box to put this one person in jail and risk all this?
All your jobs, all your livelihoods, all your houses, all your kids' college tuitions, all your grandma's this, this, that.
Do you think it's worth it?
Do you personally think it's worth it knowing exactly what these people did and what was the point?
And meaning, and look at all the policies and stuff because people have control over people.
But what you mean, these people.
If it was Epstein who was the mastermind, he wasn't the mastermind.
He was the guy that they put in place.
Just like the titty.
For me, it wouldn't like to get, as Tom alluded to, celebrity number 76 to throw him in jail as a sacrificial lamb.
What does that do?
Is that really going to help you sleep better at night?
Because they put one random shooting.
I don't think none of them.
Nobody went there that was random.
Because if one of them falls at him, that's the thing.
They're all going to fall.
They're all going to fall.
I don't know.
But Tate did say it's like this kind of soap opera.
It's not a soap opera.
People who are just in this don't know.
But see, and I disagree with him.
It's not a shit.
He should have told it to his face.
No, but he was going on his rant.
I don't agree.
No, I push back because I don't, Adam, it's accountability for those kids.
Even though God, all those people, at least I could sleep well at night, that they're going to have to meet their maker.
And if you read the Bible, Matthew chapter 16, verse 8 says, What?
If you make any of these young ones stumble or sin, it's better for you to tie a millstone around your neck and throw yourself in the deepest depths of the ocean.
Meaning, go kill yourself.
Go die.
That's pretty clear.
Don't mess with the kids.
And that's the problem.
And we just look it over.
I don't give a shit about billions or how we suffer.
I want to know who the hell was doing what.
I think it's who was behind the entrapment piece that they don't want us to know.
Of course not.
The entire operation, I think, is this scandal.
I mean, because it's like, okay, Prince Andrew, blah, blah, blah.
Maybe Michael Jack.
Okay.
You know, no one's shocked to hear that celebrities are creepy, perverted, or deviant.
It's like, it's not new news.
You made a great Prince Andrew.
And that episode.
And then the tabloids have known so much.
That's a fantastic point she just made.
The people, because think about it, Adam, FBI informant, CIA, Mossad.
You know what that means?
Great point.
These people are cool with underage kids having sex and raped and whatever because they wanted to put leverage on politicians and actors and shit.
What?
Nobody even talks about that.
That was your plan.
That was the blackmailing.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
That's why we're never going to do what?
Right?
Now that they've levered him, what did they do with the leverage?
God only knows.
That's what I'm saying.
God, and that's, you're right.
That's another thing.
That's the only rabbit.
That's never going to be a lot of people.
Okay, so let's say it was Masad.
So it was Mossad behind levering, but for what purpose?
What did they do with a lever?
Influence that's the bigger round of it.
That's crazy.
Why are we like, why?
Okay, I get Masad.
I get.
He was an FBI affirmant.
On top of.
No, no, no.
That's the one thing we're doing.
But you're going to still work for Massad.
Do we know that?
I didn't realize we were.
I did not know that.
Delaine Maxwell's father worked for Masad.
Let's just back up.
What do we know for sure?
Rob that.
That he was an FBI informant.
Well, because you just heard about this.
That's my point.
But you never heard about Mossad?
Did you never hear about Mazad?
I've heard a lot of things.
Okay.
But what do we know?
Delaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, worked for, he was an agent.
I mean, Tom's all obsessed.
Dad worked for a 99 cent store.
It doesn't mean Pat works for a 99 cent store.
What do we know for sure, Vincent?
Reka Shoz, he was a key witness in the trial of Two Bear Stearns and Zeke Avidona.
That came out in 2018.
Yeah, that was 2018.
This isn't new.
Yeah, this isn't new.
I'm with you.
What just came out this past week that Epstein definitely was?
No, no, no.
Look at me.
What do you mean?
I don't know if he definitely.
Did you do research on this story?
I didn't do research.
They said he's an FBI informant.
Who's they?
And they've been saying that he was a Mossad agent for years.
So maybe he could be both.
I thought the CIA was.
I didn't realize it was confirmed.
Wasn't it confirmed he was an FBI?
The Daily Beast just did an article about it.
It was not confirmed.
I don't know.
I mean, there's literally no news or dating that.
So who came out with that former FBI?
Listen, you know where I stand.
Then my listeners came out with that.
Those people are going to hell.
It turns out I'm a victim of the fake.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Just to be fair to Adam, a lot of people were saying that it came out that he was an FBI before.
The story came out a few days ago.
But this has been popular since 2018, these claims have been made.
Masad is when I had his brother on and we spoke, it was very fishy, Rob.
You remember this when we had the two-hour podcast with Mark Epstein?
What was the fish?
And it's just, it's very obvious.
There's something very weird going on with the connections and the support and the people that they had.
I don't disagree with that, by the way.
It just hasn't been concluded.
You know when you think about certain people who joined the army?
Who was the football player that joined the military officials?
Pat Tillman.
Oh, Pat Tillman.
Pat Tillman, right?
Friendly family.
And he leaves a multi-million dollar contract to go serve the military.
And that epic picture.
Look at that.
That guy just looks like a soldier.
Look at that face.
Right?
You know what's going to happen?
I don't know who, and I don't know how and what the community is going to be.
If nothing comes out, there's going to be some people that are going to be running just on this.
They're going to be like, you know what?
F it.
I'm going to go and run for office because I have to find out what's going on there.
There's going to be some people that will do that.
Who that is, I don't know because I don't know if that is in Trump's top five list.
I don't know if it's in his top 10 list.
I really don't think it is.
I don't think it should be.
He never ran on it.
I don't think it's a top five or a top 10 list.
I think it's something that some of his audience wants, just like the crypto community, this community, the that community.
But I don't know if it's on his top 10 list.
We'll see.
You know, Kash Patello is supposed to be the one that's like, hey, I'm telling you, Glenn Beck is here in two weeks.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you, in two weeks.
10 days.
All right.
Got it.
No problem.
What happened?
That thing went viral that day on X. Nothing happened.
But we'll see.
We'll see what's going to happen.
Be patient.
Be patiently aggressive.
You don't think nothing will happen.
Zippo.
The one thing that did happen.
The one thing that did happen is we have a new idea for a shirt with Tom.
Okay.
It's a new shirt coming soon.
It's called Hide the Sausage.
Hide the Salami.
Oh, right.
Hide the Salami.
With Tom's face on it.
It's like, hey, it's a new shirt, right?
Instead of like BizDoc, numbers, you know, scream, whatever.
No, it's called the Hide the.
Can I say about this one?
Yeah, go for it.
So, guys, this shirt, Rob, do you put the collection up?
So whoever spends the most on this collection, let me stand up for it, which is freaking hilarious.
At St. Patrick Medavid Day, gets this.
We're all going to sign it, Jillian.
You can sign it with us.
And we're going to send it to your house.
We're all going to sign it right now.
Oh, I'm seven.
You don't like this shirt.
You don't like it.
I think they should definitely buy it.
The one with the face sound, bro.
Like, if you want to buy it, to keep it, to tease me with it, do it.
But the other ones, the green ones, those look sick.
The future looks right.
They look sick.
Yeah, they're all right.
They look sick.
Matter of fact, I'll wear myself on that day as well.
Having said that, Rob, is Gary Brecker going tomorrow?
Yes, sir.
Link is in the description as well as in the chat tomorrow, 9 a.m.