New Jersey Drones, Luigi Magione's 90-Day Mystery, Alex Jones InfoWars Win | PBD Podcast | Ep. 520
Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover the mysterious drones over New Jersey, Luigi Magione missing for 90-days before the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, and Alex Jones InfoWars win over The Onion.
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00:00 - Podcast intro
00:25 - PBD previews topics coming up on the podcast
06:59 - 🎄 VT CHRISTMAS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4gk4yff
08:30 - Mysterious drones spotted over NJ.
36:23 - The Onion loses bid of Alex Jones' InfoWars
53:21 - Luigi Magione has outburst at court.
1:18:16 - Daniel Penny acquittal update.
1:25:10 - Biden provides $20B to Ukraine.
1:40:01 - Joy Reid calls conservatives violent.
1:46:46 - Caitlin Clark's white privilege.
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All right, folks.
If you're ready, we got a lot of stuff going on today.
By the way, Zuckerberg, who came out and wrote a letter to Honorable Chairman Jim Jordan about the $400 million he helped out and how Biden and all those guys came out and he shouldn't have done that.
It was on him.
You know who he just gave a million dollars to for his inauguration party?
No.
Trump.
Are you serious?
Did you hear about this or not?
No, no, no.
Just this morning, news came out.
Yes.
We got a few other things that's going on that's interesting.
You got, for those in Jersey, you know how many people from Jersey told me they're actually concerned, like, what is going on with these drones?
What is it?
Is it Iran?
Is it FBI?
We're asking the FBI, they're like, we don't know what it is.
How do you not know what it is, right?
They know.
Simultaneously, Chris Ray decides to step down before being fired, which is a pretty wise move for your resume because you get, when you write the book, you get to say what?
I resign.
I resigned.
That's a wise move two, three weeks away when you're saying something like that.
Mel Gibson was at Mar-a-Lago, the new White House of the East Coast, hanging out, saying a few different words.
And we'll play a couple of the clips when that happens.
You'll see it here shortly.
Trump's going to ring the New York Stock Exchange opening bell a midtime person of the year.
I asked Mark Benihoff, can we change it back to man of the year?
I don't care if you do woman of the year or man of the year.
What is this person of the year?
Just doesn't sound right.
By the way, Elon Musk, this poor guy, man, you just crossed $400 billion.
Oh, good.
Net worth.
Yeah, $600 away from a trillion.
I told you guys it'll take two to four years for him to be the first trillionaire.
He's at $400 billion.
$400 billion $400 billion ain't what it used to be.
It's just not, though.
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Oh, they say the Saudi Royal Nation is actually a trillionaire.
That's right.
But the family is, not an individual.
He said, who's the Saudi Arabic?
Correct.
Right.
So 50, these are Adam's friends that we never met.
But 50 Cent trolls, Jay-Z and Diddy with AI-generated arrest video after the child rape lawsuit.
50 also made comments about Luigi Mangioni.
He made a comment saying, this is my kind of a guy.
You won't understand it.
I may do a documentary on him.
And he came out in another clip yesterday that went viral, screaming at people.
I don't know if you saw that or not.
We'll show the clip and we'll talk about it.
Can't wait.
The famous twin realtor brothers arrested amid sexual assault allegations.
And the mugshot doesn't look good.
It just doesn't look good.
We'll talk about that as well.
Few other things that's going on at the same time.
Trump, a new name for Justin Trudeau, is officially out there and it's going viral.
He's calling Justin Trudeau Governor Trudeau.
He wants Canada to be a state.
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And you heard, and Justin Trudeau said something yesterday when he was talking about the woman president.
I'll play the clip.
He doesn't know what to do with himself.
Goldman Sachs, CEO, David Solomon, says Trump's very pro-growth agenda to boost deal making.
That's good.
Deal making can be translated into IPOs, raising money, a lot of different things, which is good.
More than 75 Nobel laureates, Earth Senate, two, ready?
Reject RFK Jr.
We're trying to find out if these 75 are related to the 51 Secret Service intelligence agents that said there's nothing in that laptop.
Well, who knows?
We'll find out.
Borders are Tom Holman warns the opposing morns that opposing ICE is a result you don't want.
Biden, Trump's tax and tariffs plans are a major mistake.
U.S. Treasury turns frozen Russian assets into $20 billion loan for who?
Ukraine.
Wait till you see KJP talk about $50 billion out.
She said instead of $20 billion, Rob, if I'm not mistaken, did she say 50 yesterday instead of 20?
I don't know why I thought I saw 50.
But we'll show that.
On top of that, that 20 is going to Ukraine.
Iran's getting another $10 billion in sanctions relief days after Trump's won election.
What a noble thing for Biden to do to give another $10 billion to Iran.
And we got a bunch of stories on the United Healthcare CEO.
Phil Michel Michelson issues the golfer.
Praise to Daniel Penny on Random Thoughts, Twitter post.
CNN panel goes off the rails after Scott Jennings calls Daniel Penny one of the good guys.
Ron DeSantis invites Daniel Penny to Florida to get his life back.
We'll talk about the drones.
Joey Reed from MSNBC says conservatism itself justifies ready violence.
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Well, so does looting Joy.
So let's talk about it.
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Trump is sending a message to supporters to use violence and commit crimes.
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We talked about Ray stepping down.
There's an article here from SF Gate, San Francisco Gate.
America's obsession with California failing.
California failing.
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By the way, this was Tom's choice.
He wanted to react to the story.
We're going to go to Tom.
Tom actually wanted to show you the video.
We said no.
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Yeah, that's right.
And, you know, whatever it is, it's still a shiv.
Yeah.
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Turkish cities offer refugees one-way tickets back to Syria.
Microsoft shareholders vote against investing in Bitcoin.
This story, we have to cover this one.
Judge rejects Alex sale of Alex Jones InfoWars to opinion in dispute over bankruptcy action.
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All right.
So let's go into the first story.
Rob, can we pull up these clips with these drones?
I really want to find out what's going on with these drones.
A congressman even came up and he commented on it.
But first, Rob, let's show.
Okay, go for it.
You can play this clip.
Matter of fact, let me just read a little bit about it and then we'll go to these stories that we have.
You know, folks in Jersey, they're like, Pat, I'm seeing this stuff and people are actually worried.
Is this Iran?
Is this us?
How the hell does our own government not know what it is?
So New Jersey Senator John Bramnick, is that the video you have, Rob, or no?
I have Jeff Van Drew.
Okay, so let me read this one here.
Issued a press release urging the state to issue a limited state of emergency banning all drones until the public receives an explanation regarding these multiple sightings following reports of large drones flying over President-elect Trump's Bedminster golf course.
Give me a flipping break.
You think that's accidental?
And near military research sites in New Jersey, Governor Phil Murphy noted 49 reports of drones Sunday alone, acknowledging that some could be possible sightings and potentially the same drone being reported more than once.
White House Press Secretary Corrine Jean-Pierre stated, we are certainly aware, the president is aware, so we are closely tracking the activity and coordinating closely with relevant agencies, including DHS and FBI, to continue investigating these sightings, incidents.
She confirmed the drones are not foreign.
How do you know that, by the way?
If you know it's not foreign, then what is it?
But she said she did not have anything else to share regarding the investigation.
If you want to play the clip, Rob, with the reaction of this senator, I think it's a congressman that had an insider share something with them.
Go ahead, Rob, play this clip.
Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones.
That mothership is off, I'm going to tell you the deal.
It's off the east coast of the United States of America.
They've launched drones.
It's everything that we can see or hear.
And again, these are from high sources.
I don't say this lightly.
Now, you know, we know there was a probability it could have been our own government.
We know it's not our own government because they would have let us know.
It could have been some really glorified hobbyist or hobbyist that were doing something unbelievable.
They don't have the technology.
But let's pretend that's possible.
The third possibility was somebody, an adversarial country, doing this.
Know that Iran made a deal with China to purchase drones, motherships, and technology in order to go forward.
The sources I have are good.
They can't reveal who they are because they are speaking to me in confidentiality.
These drones should be shot down.
Whether it was some crazy hobbyist that we can't imagine or whether it is Iran, and I think it very possibly could be, they should be shot down.
We are not getting the full deal and the military is on alert with this.
Vinny.
Look, okay.
So, and Rob, Rob's from Jersey.
I'm pretty sure he's hurts himself.
I have some friends and I have some families on the East Coast.
The fact that the FBI and the lady from the Pentagon went up there too, and they have no idea what the hell is going on.
They're all lost.
Here's a congressman that's involved with transportation and aviation.
He sits on these committees and he's saying that his people are saying that they know it's Iran and it's off of our coast.
Okay.
My thing is, why the hell are they lying?
Or if they're that incompetent, what is the FBI and our intelligence community doing all day?
What, if it doesn't have to do with Trump, I feel Pat in my heart of hearts, they don't give a shit.
I guarantee you, if one of these drones had a sticker of Trump's face, they'd shoot them all down and they'd put them in jail.
It's just unbelievable.
If you saw that video, Tommy, have you seen this one?
It's Rob Platus Cliff.
This is like, what would you do if you saw this in your neighborhood?
This looks like Darth Vader flying sideways, doesn't it?
Listen, listen.
That's not a plane.
What the hell is that?
And here's the thing.
Are you ready for this too?
A guy from Jersey, I was talking to chat about it.
A guy from Jersey put his own drone up into the sky to try to get near one of them, fully charged, totally like a really good drone.
Ew batteries done, and it fell off.
I'm dead serious.
I'm dead serious.
So it's either they think that we're stupid and we're not.
Something's going on.
And let's not pretend like this hasn't been going on.
The spy balloons from China literally went from one side of our country to the other.
And they're like, yeah, no, they're just weather balloons.
They're lying.
And think about this.
There's 39 days left to this election.
If it's Iran and I don't trust anybody that's in our government, who knows what the hell they're doing?
We still have a bunch of dates.
Iran is our enemy, right?
That's what the media is telling us.
How can they let this happen?
And how could she sit up here?
This is the Pentagon girl.
And we don't know the information.
What are we talking about?
What are we talking about?
The first thing you brought up the balloon.
Great point to bring up because the balloon's floating on there.
Our government knew about it.
Biden didn't do any about it.
And then finally, finally, finally, finally, we shot one down, right?
Yeah, finally.
So after it crossed over the whole country.
So it's like there's something going on where somebody is giving a wink and letting it do it.
The next thing is, if this is Iran, why are you testing?
Why are you using your drones over New Jersey?
Why wouldn't you be like over, you know, Quantico or places that you want to check out?
Or is this just a test?
And if it is a test, why haven't we responded to it?
You know, we, Pat and I grew up in California, and there's these four cities, Lancaster, Barstow, Mojave, and California City.
You know what they have in common?
A lot of sightings that they think are UFOs.
But would you like to know what is exactly in the middle of California City, Tehachapi, Mojave, Barstow, and Lancaster?
What?
Edwards Air Force Base.
Yeah, weird.
It's us.
And people would talk about seeing bat-like planes that didn't show up on civil radar.
You know what they were?
They were F-22 stealths.
So we were testing stuff five years before we even saw it.
So I know that we do test and do things like this.
But what bothered me, the same thing bothered you.
A congressman is coming out saying, hey, I'm part of Aerospace and Transportation Committees.
And I'm telling you, it's not us testing.
They say it's something else.
That bothers me because we do test and we do confuse our own citizens.
California citizens used to report it and it turned out it was our own test.
But now they're coming out saying, nope, this is somebody else.
Well, then why haven't we shot it down like the balloon?
Why did we take our time?
By the way, here's a question.
If the U.S. government's saying it's not theirs, right?
Yes.
Okay.
So here's a question, Tom.
If you're in your backyard, okay?
Your job as a man of the household is to protect the backyard of your house.
Okay.
You see something, a drone on top of your house, a small little drone on top of your house.
And that's just you got a good size has an acre.
You ask your kids, hey, is this one of ours?
No.
Hey, is this any of the guys?
No.
Shoot it down.
Absolutely.
It's like looking inside your daughter's bedroom or bathroom or something, getting pictures.
Because you could have bad kids next door.
Hey, let's see if you can get a picture while she's taking a shower.
Kids are going to do this with Jones.
Those things over my property, it's coming down.
By the way, what if it's a drone above a military base?
What if you fly a drone above an airport?
If you fly a drone over an airport, what do you do to the drone?
You shoot it down.
Right.
When we were in Acropolis, I don't know if you remember when we were in Greece and we were trying to get a drone open.
You remember that?
Right.
And we're like, hey, immediately, it's like, hey, bring the drone down.
You know, one of the camera guys was using a drone.
But if we don't know what it is, why are we even questioning it?
Exactly.
Then they know.
The only answer to that is then they know.
If it's not ours, what are you doing?
If it's not yours, why are you okay with that staying up there?
Rob, what is this next clip?
Is this Pentagon?
So this is the Deputy Defense Press Secretary, Sabrina Singh, where she came out yesterday after Congressman Van Drew said that they were from Iran.
She came out and said that they were not.
She came out and she said they were not.
Let's hear what she has to say.
Jen, Sabrina, can you tell me what the Pentagon is doing to address this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey?
It's near-sensitive installations.
The FBI is involved.
What is the Pentagon doing?
Sure.
So at this time, so aware of those drone sightings that have been reported.
At this time, we have no evidence that these activities are coming from an adversary.
This is kind of weird.
So check this out.
Go back to the beginning.
She points at Jen, then moves the page to the page that she's going to read the question.
Oh, before, wait, watch this again, the body language.
Tell me if I'm off a little bit.
See if she is already knowing what Jen is going to ask her.
Go ahead, Rob.
Jen, Sabrina, can you tell me what the Pentagon is doing to this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey?
It's near-sensitive.
How do you know she was going to go through?
Installations, the FBI is involved.
What is the Pentagon doing?
Sure.
So at this time, aware of those sightings that have been reported.
At this time, we have no evidence that these activities are coming from a foreign entity or the work of an adversary.
We're going to continue to monitor what is happening.
But at no point were our installations threatened when this activity was occurring.
Can you rule out that these are American drones or military drones?
These are not U.S. military drones.
Again, this is being investigated by local law enforcement.
our initial assessment here is that these are not I don't understand this like I don't understand the fact that like this area no no what I'm asking is I'm with you how How long does it stay up there?
Five minutes?
It's been two, three days?
50 of them.
No, listen, it's immediate, immediate attack ahead of it rather than staying and keeping it up there.
Now, the only reason why you may not attack it immediately where everything's going to fall and it could destroy some homes and things like that.
But think about it this way: the other plane that was flying into Pentagon, what did they do to that plane?
9-11.
There were two planes, right?
The one attack was 9-11.
The other one that was going where?
One was in Colorado.
No, not Colorado.
The one that went down in Pennsylvania on my name.
They had scrambled, and the one that allegedly went down in Pennsylvania was going to be shot down.
That's exactly the point.
So that story is: why'd you shoot it down?
Yeah.
Why'd you shoot it down?
Yeah, because they know.
Why didn't you hesitate?
Why don't you hesitate?
Why'd you shoot it down?
How did you know whose it was?
So you don't know what this is?
So in five minutes, you could figure out who plane that was, but you can't figure this out in three days.
Don't give me this bullshit.
So what are you allowing to say?
Is this an exchange for someone that watch this?
Could this be the enemy?
You just gave me $10 billion.
My country is Iran.
Iran made a video showing how a little drone goes and follows Trump while he's golfing.
Remember that video they made two years ago?
It was an older video, two, three years ago.
You think they would want they like how often do you think Trump's going to golf the next four years?
At a bunch.
At the Jersey place.
At the Bedminster.
How often do you think it's going to, Tom?
You're you golf.
How often do you think Trump's going to golf at Bedminster the next four years?
Bedminster, He'll golf more than a few times, but not every day.
No, give me a number, Tom.
50 times?
For the next four years?
I would say...
Way more than that.
No.
No, no, no.
I would say under 100 times, probably 25 times a year during the wet.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
So let's just say 50, 200 times.
Correct.
How valuable is that for me to send a drone to learn everything I can about that golf course above it?
Like, are you dumb to think these drones could have gone anywhere?
They're above Bedminster.
Why do you think they're above Bedminster?
Do you think this is a famous golfer that's trying to improve their golf skills because they want to build a better golf course than the one in Bedminster?
Or do you think this is a place that this guy's going to go?
Look at this.
They gave you a glimpse of what they did.
This is an Iranian video.
This is an Iranian video that came out a few years ago.
Hey, you want to mess with us?
Look what kind of technology we have access to.
We can get you.
Go back a little bit, Rob, that shows the Mar-Lago clip because that's what I wanted to show.
Yeah.
Go back a little bit.
You know, the part that was above it.
Maybe go forward like five seconds.
Keep going, Okay, right there.
Write that back up a little bit.
So what is that?
How do you get that stuff?
It's a drone.
It's a drone.
How do you get that stuff?
Yeah.
It's a drone show.
So you don't think they want to learn every single piece of the property on what to do?
I don't know, man.
The fact that this gets me to, you know, the people that are questioning.
When did Chris Ray resign?
Yesterday.
Yesterday.
He stepped down.
Yep.
The former FBI, he's the head of FBI.
Yeah.
He steps down.
Okay.
He allowed somebody to go through Melania's drawer in Mar-a-Lago.
Yep.
Even though Trump was working with them to get the files back, they went and embarrassed him and, you know, Maorcas, all that stuff.
Not my chrism, Garland, right?
Merrick.
Right.
While they're doing all that stuff, investigating him, nothing with Joe, nothing with any, the laptop, nothing with anybody, but you do that.
And then you're doing this at this time with Iran getting 10 billion on the same day?
What the hell is going on here?
No wonder people are not trusting you.
Exactly.
By the way, by the way, this is the part where when they ask the questions and they say, are you going to do anything to have a revenge on these guys?
Are you? Am I going to?
Can I ask you a question?
Kristen Welker?
What's her name?
Exactly.
Okay, of course.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
What would you do if 50 drones were over your house where you and your husband and kids are living?
Yeah.
Would you want to know who was behind it?
Yes.
Is that called revenge?
What do you call that?
It's called wanting to know.
Would you say, what if I told you, wow, what a vengeful person you are, Kristen Walker.
Why do you want to know why these drones are trying to see what you do?
You're such a pervert.
You think they want to know what you're doing in the bedroom?
They're just a bunch of innocent drones, Kristen.
Except the difference is you're just a journalist.
I'm the damn president.
And we're moving this slow.
This is pathetic.
You know, last year, every year I do my business plan and I choose two words on January 31st, on December 31st.
I already know one of my words for 2025.
Two words I had for 2024 were sell and drive.
One of the words in 2025 is speed.
Speed.
We had an executive meeting.
I told him the theme this year is LFG.
It's all speed.
Nothing going slow.
You have a crisis like this going on?
You're moving this slow on it?
What?
Hell?
No.
Go.
Intel, what do we know?
We don't know.
Call everybody.
Are these yours?
Everybody call everybody and ask them if they're there.
It's not yours.
If we find out it's yours, 300% tariff on you and public humiliation.
We're shooting the shit down and going and getting it right now.
You ready?
Boom, shoot it.
Open area?
Yes.
Right now, shoot them down because it's going to drop here in open area.
Let's investigate exactly whose it is.
We go back to him publicly.
This was XYZ.
Every once in a while, you have to make an example of a country.
If you don't do it, keep doing it.
And you leave it like this.
I don't know.
This is frustrating to me.
Protection and safety and security is so important that when you do something like this to the man that just became a president before he's about to become the president, president-elect, and we're just kind of like, yeah, yeah, Jen, yes, I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, we don't think it's not Iran, but you know, we're looking into, we're doing our part.
We got some intel.
Pentagon?
Freaking, no wonder you're missing so much money and everything.
$842 billion budget they can't account for for the sixth year in a row.
And I love that you said that.
And I'm just really, really quick.
I love that you said that.
The fact that they're just letting this go makes people like me question every single thing that they do.
She's, by the way, she's that girl that was up there, she's the Kareem Jean-Pierre for the Pentagon.
She just goes up there and spits BS with zero answers and there's no accountability to them.
And God forbid, and I don't, listen, we only have less than 40 days for Trump to come in.
What about the four years that he's going to be in?
If they're doing stuff like that, they're not going to stop.
I've said this before.
They are not going to stop going after this dude.
And this is just, to me, this is showing me that there's like a greatest country in the world.
We have the best FBI.
You know who said we have the best FBI?
You know who said that?
What conservative recently said, and I'll go down and say it again, we have the best, you know, conservatives said this?
They're definitely not telling intelligence.
Yeah.
I'll find out exactly who it was.
If we have it, let's find out what happened.
If you can find a person missing $50 under tax return, but you can't find out what the hell this drone is coming from, stop it.
Adam, final thoughts?
Yeah.
I'll sum this thing up.
So they didn't shoot any of the drones down.
Is that what you're saying?
Not at all.
One guy tried.
So you're going to have to give me a good reason why you would not shoot this down.
Now, they're speculating that it's Iran.
I don't know if it's Iran or if it's not, but let me make an argument.
Iran.
You know the show on TV, The Biggest Loser?
You know how that Donald Trump just won Time Person of the Year, Man of the Year?
The biggest loser of the year has been the Islamic Republic of Iran.
And that's not just my opinion.
It's according to Wait for Wall Street Journal.
Iran suffers blow of historic proportions with Assad's fall.
They said, quote unquote, the Islamic Republic thought that Hamas's October 7th attack would be a turning point in history.
That's true, but in an entirely opposite direction for what it hoped for.
So they've funded, you know, we talk about in finance ROI, return on investment.
The Houthis have basically said, we know Maas, like the Roberto Dehran.
So Iran is looking at themselves and they're like, what did we all do this for?
We're an active terror state.
Meanwhile, I'm not sure if you're following me this.
I'm sure you are, PBD.
Apparently, Ayatollah Khomeini is not doing well.
He's not doing well.
He's not been doing well for a couple months.
Correct.
We saw the last president almost a year ago died in a helicopter accident.
The newest president is supposed to be a moderate.
Let's see what's going on with that.
You did an episode about the misery index in Iran, right?
One of the highest misery indexes in the world.
Their happiness, they have happiness levels of different countries.
One of the most just unhappy, miserable countries in the world.
The people of Iran are not the government of Iran.
The people of Iran, the Persian people, are amazing people.
I'm telling you.
But the government is subjugating all its people and they're terrorizing their own people and their goal is to terrorize the world.
So the GDP per capita, I think, per person in Iran is about $5,000 per person.
Why do I bring all this up?
So meanwhile, their people are suffering.
Their people are miserable.
Their entire investment of their entire terror regime has basically crumbled.
And this is what they're trying to do, apparently.
Fly drones.
It makes no sense to me, but it gives you a little reasoning as to what their methodology is.
They are not there to help their people.
They're here to just basically provide terror to the world.
So this is what I just, Rob.
Yeah, I'm glad you posted this.
Okay, so Mystery Drone spotted over New Jersey, Staten Island.
So look at the locations it's going over.
Arsenal Military Base, Trump International, National Golf Club, Bedminster.
Okay, New York, Burlington, all that area, right?
That area's got a lot of information there.
But Rob, do you know when was the first drone sighting that started in Jersey?
Do you know when it happened?
When was it?
So Rob, do me a favor, go to Google and search the following.
First sighting of New Jersey drones.
You will be surprised by what comes up.
And I hope I'm wrong.
November 18th, the drones, which some residents say appear larger than hobbyist drones, those used for recreational purposes have been spotted almost every night flying over northeastern U.S. state since November 18th.
Four weeks.
Almost four weeks.
Guys, this is not just a few days.
November 18th, and we're initially sighted near Picketne Arsenal, a U.S. military base, research and manufacturing facility since November 18th.
You're telling me since November 18th, you've known about this.
Can you open up that article, Rob, to see where it goes, Al Jazeera?
So zoom in a little bit to see what else it's going to tell us about the dates.
Okay, go a little lower, Rob, if you could.
Okay, perfect.
Go a little lower, see if there's anything else to read or is that it?
Okay.
So December 4th, cautioning residents of Florid Park, Borough in Jersey about the drones.
Chief of police, Joseph Arano, wrote, over the past two weeks, the drone sightings have been occurring nightly, beginning just after sunset and lasting well into the early morning hours.
He described the appearance of the drones as nefarious and nature.
Go a little lower.
He also noted that the drones are flying above critical infrastructure such as water reservoirs, electric transmission lines, train stations, police departments, and military installations.
On December 5th, Jersey Governor Phil Murphy wrote that on social.
There is no known threat to the public at this time.
Yesterday, I covered a briefing with Mallorca, senior officials, DHS, and members of congressional delegation to discuss.
I don't know, man.
Listen, November 18th, you own a property, you own an office, you see something that you typically don't see in your office.
What do you do?
How long does it take you to investigate what's going on?
What if nobody does something about it?
Do you just sit there and take it and that's it?
I don't know about this.
This is.
By the way, last thing, PBD.
Do you think these occurrences, not New Jersey, in America, around the world, are going to happen more or less?
Well, wait a minute.
Listen, they're making laws about deep fakes.
If you take someone's daughter and you make deep fake porn, they want to make that a crime, right?
Right.
Okay.
So this is the speed of crime.
When we ran an insurance, I was talking to a lawyer yesterday.
When we ran an insurance company, I'm still the CEO of the company, had a meeting with them last week with a bunch of different things that's going on.
Every insurance executive, CEO, big ones came in.
We sat down.
We had a two-day meeting with them.
One of the things you have no choice but to get very good at in insurance is compliance.
Oh, yeah.
And when we're in 50 states, including Puerto Rico, and I think we're the third or second largest in Puerto Rico, and we've licensed 60,000 agents in 50 states.
You deal with every single department of insurance.
You pay taxes in every one of those states.
I don't know how many states we pay taxes in, Tom.
Honestly, you know how my CPA would come.
He's like, here's this much for this state, this much for that state, this much for this state.
Every state we're paying taxes in that we have to pretty much, if we had to, we paid it.
You'll learn about compliance.
And what happens is you learn new ways that people commit a crime.
So what's the old school way of crime in sales?
You're a realtor, you go, you do a loan 1003, the client forgets to sign one thing.
What's the old school method of sales that people do that you screw up and you use it?
You lose your license.
What is it?
Ah, shit.
I don't want to go back 40 minutes to meet the client.
Let me just do what?
Forge the signal.
You lose your license.
You're a dummy.
You know what's another one?
Oh, you know what?
I'm a better salesperson than my wife.
My wife's the broker.
I don't have the license.
I'll sell it.
I'll go there.
I'll fill out the paperwork.
Then we would investigate and find out this guy of Carolina who was selling to somebody while the wife wasn't there and the wife's the licensed one.
We called every one of the clients that day.
It took us one day to realize she doesn't sell.
He sells.
How long did it take us until we terminated this guy?
24 hours.
Yeah, listen.
We made the decision immediately.
But you know what happens?
Then comes social media.
Then comes Zoom.
Then comes every time we have to accelerate the process of the threat and how people try to take advantage.
You're supposed to move quickly.
Right now with us in the Item BDC, we're going through it right now.
You investigate quickly, like, whoa, you're using that for this?
Really?
What?
You were doing this?
Interesting.
Well, that's double dumb, but guess what?
It's a crime.
Here we go.
We got to do what we got to do.
If you want to go, you go through it, but you're telling me for something like this, they need to put a law.
Where I'm going with this is if you think deep fake of a girl that she's not in it, but she's being used in porn should be a crime, which I agree.
If you're going to do that, should be a crime.
Guess what?
What's the new crime that we want to put with drones?
It needs to be a crime.
It needs to be a crime.
If it's either crime or you shoot it down, if it's not our drone and we don't know whose it is, no one's taking ownership, shoot the shit down.
Don't sit on it since the 18th.
How?
By the way, if you're watching this, I'm curious whether you agree with me politically or not, because there's about 15% of you that watch this, that you watch it because you don't agree.
Well, you don't agree with us, which you have no idea how important you are, and I love it.
You tell me, left, right, center, wherever you are, I want one person to tell me a good argument on why you're okay with the drones being up there and the U.S. government telling us they don't know what it is and we're not shooting those things down.
Tell me one person, aside from safety reasons, which I agree with you on where it crashes.
Aside from safety reasons, give me one reason why those drones shouldn't be shut down.
Why not?
Do you have one?
You don't have one.
I don't have one.
The hell are we doing?
What are we doing?
And where?
In an area that's the financial capital of the world, Bedminster president.
This is, anyways, we got to go to the next story because this is really just very annoying.
Security is your number one job as a man and a husband and a father.
Security is your number one job as the FBI director, the president, the current president is Biden, VP Kamala.
That's your job to protect me, you, us, our families.
You're not doing it.
What the hell are you waiting for?
It's a basic phone call.
Two hours, call every head of state.
What the f ⁇ is going on here?
Is this you?
Because I'm shooting this shit down.
And I swear to God, if I find out it's you, it's over.
Do you understand me?
You think I'm playing with you?
We're not.
What do you want to do?
It's ours.
Take the shit down right now.
Out.
And whatever you have, give me every single file.
And if you don't, public scrutiny and 200, 300% of the tariff coming your way and sanctions on your country for one year.
I swear to God, the fear of death is coming your way.
Closest thing to it.
This is like.
Anyways, let's go to the next story.
Freaking very annoying to me.
People in Jersey, average day-to-day families, you want kids to walk?
You want me to have my kids go to school?
And I'm worried about what's going to happen with these things?
Are you out of your freaking mind?
Are you out of your mind in two of our most special states in America, Jersey and New York?
How rich are those people, personalities that come out of those places?
Anyways, let me go to the next story before I freaking turn off the podcast.
All right, let's go to the next story.
Now, back for a first topic for people.
Let's go to the next story.
Let's go to a little bit more of a different kind of a story here.
So what do we got here?
All right, let's talk about Alex Jones.
Judge rejects sale of Alex Jones Info Wars to the Onion and dispute over a bankruptcy auction.
So is this kind of like a spoof that Onion wants to buy them to kind of put him out of business and say, hey, we bought him and we used our money and we closed them up?
Is that kind of what they're trying to do, Rob?
Is that what this is?
Because Onion is a liberal left.
Onion is the old school watered down Babylon B. Correct.
Is that fair to say that?
Because Onion is what they wish they were Babylon B, but they can't be because they're just not as talented and creative as the guys at Babylon BR.
It's not even close, by the way.
Let me read this story to you and then let's go to this.
Okay, here we go.
Page 13.
So a federal judge on Tuesday rejects the sale of the conspiracy.
Who wrote this article?
New York Post.
Okay.
Of the conspiracy platform InfoWars to the Onion Satir Cole news outlet after Alex Jones claimed that a recent bankruptcy auction was fraught with illegal collusion.
The Onion was named the winning bidder on November 14th over a company affiliated with the Jones, U.S. bankruptcy judge, Christopher Lopez.
Decision made Jones can stay at InfoWars in Austin, Texas.
The Onion have planned to kick Jones out and relaunch InfoWars in January as a parody.
Okay, so they're trying to mock him, right?
At the end of a lengthy two-day hearing in a Texas courtroom, Lopez criticized the auction process flawed and said the outcome left a lot of money on the table for families of victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
You got to scratch and claw and get everything you can from them.
Lopez said, Rob, is this a clip from who?
Is this the lawyer or who is this guy here?
No, this is actually, he is the CEO of the parent company that owns The Onion.
This is back from November where he talked about them winning the bid, the Onion winning the bid.
And then you have an Alex Jones clip as well.
You want to play Alex first?
Because Alex lays out what exactly happened.
Is this Alex's most recent clip or is this guy's first clip?
Alex's clip is from November as well.
It's when he first finds out about it.
Which clip came first?
Alex came first.
This came second.
Go, so put, play Alex first.
Go for it.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is 7.50 right now.
I'm about to upload this to X.
I just got word 15 minutes ago that my lawyers and folks met with the U.S. trustee over our bankruptcy this morning, and they said they're shutting us down even without a court order.
This morning, the Connecticut Democrats with the Onion newspaper bought us.
They asked, did they outbid?
They said, well, it was competitive.
So they changed all the bidding rules, made it secret two days ago.
I had a bad feeling.
I told you that.
And just like they tried to shut us down back in late May without a court order, they're supposed to have a court order.
There's going to be injunctions filed.
I'm about to go live out of Harrison's American Journal studio.
I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm going to be here until they come in there and turn the lights off.
I'm going to say, where's the court order?
So this is all going down right now.
They want to silence the American people, but we're not going to be silenced.
Be sure to follow me at the Alex Jones Network at AJN Live on X right now.
They're filed in court to take real Alex Jones away.
That's totally unconstitutional.
The judge already said no, so they filed in other courts.
So a lot fee going up by the time you see this at AJN Live and at Real Alex Jones right now.
Share this everywhere.
This is a total attack on free speech.
The deep state is completely out of control.
The private security hasn't even been told all this yet.
They try to tell them last time the other U.S. trustee to shut us down that court order.
You know, these folks said no.
So this is all happening right now.
This is the tyranny of the New World Order, desperate to silence the American people.
The mandate of Trump against all the lawfare.
They don't care.
So the system still thinks it's in charge.
I'm going live right now for what probably will be the last transmission from this building.
God bless you all for your support.
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Go to the World Service, Rob.
And this is Ben Collins, the CEO of the parent company of The Onion, talking about why they wanted to own Alex Jones's InfoWars.
Let's hear it.
Here we are.
We own The Onion owns Infowars.
Look, we're going to go after all of the every facet of alternative media that is trying to get you addicted to stupid stuff.
Like there is a whole world of podcasters and TikTok influencers.
I'm glad I'm seeing this video.
Have some really curious ideas of the world.
And I also think that we're learning right now that their followings are just as big, if not bigger, than traditional celebrities.
And they've gone unmocked.
They've gone, they got a free pass to this point.
And we don't think that that's fair.
You don't think that that's fair?
That's the worst.
I'm sorry, Onion.
Let me, Tom.
Can you do me a favor and pull up?
Like, is there a way to track traffic going to The Onion versus Babylon B and measuring the two together for the last three years?
I am begging you to find this.
There used to be a site called Alexa.com.
Can you please find the two together?
I don't know the data, by the way, so I could be wrong.
And Onion's been crushing it.
But from what I see, I am willing to bet Babylon B's traffic versus The Onion, they're destroying The Onion.
And Onion wishes they could be Babylon B.
And you know, you know what would be funny with this entire part?
That is, this is who, by the way, this is who Rob the Jew just put in organic traffic.
And this is on what website?
It's ahrefs.com.
Okay, and they showed up as what?
273.
Can you do me a favor?
Just take copy-paste, what do you call it, the link, and just open up a new window.
So don't close it.
So we can compare the two together and put up a new window.
And on this new window that you do, put Babylon B in there and let's see what it's doing.
The same way you just did it.
I don't know what, oh, it doesn't let you do 200.
Let me try a different way.
Give me one second.
Yeah, I would be very curious to know because this guy had a play where he wanted to publicly humiliate.
He said conservative podcasters.
What did he call them?
He says these other in the traffic.
So who is ahead, Rob?
It says, right, according to this website, Babylon B is at 95.5,000 and The Onion is at 270.
The Onion is still ahead.
According to this website, can you do me a favor, find out when did Babylon B start and when did The Onion start?
When did Babylon B start?
The Onion's been around for a decade.
Babylon B started.
It was a newspaper.
Babylon B started eight years ago.
Okay, when did Onion start?
I think it started off as a college newspaper.
Yeah, it was a newspaper.
1980.
1980 in Madison.
80.
One of the more liberal cities in America, by the way.
That's where you know it's 88, 88, 2016 is what, 28 years before Babylon B started, right?
Now, Musk is a big fan of Babylon B.
So these guys are buying InfoWars to try to humiliate, what do you call it, Alex.
And by the way, is there the dollar amount, Rob, that we have in an article?
Because I think the number, when I asked you yesterday, was like $1.75 million.
$72 million.
And they're giving $700,000 to, what do you call it?
The Sandy Hook victims.
The family and all this other stuff.
Can you go to that, Rob, real quick?
$1.75 million in cash, and then part of that settlement was $750,000 that would go to the families of the Sandy Hook victims.
So give or take $2.5 million to buy Infowars.
Correct.
It's nothing.
Elon Jones.
Elon has that in his pocket right now.
Does the lawsuit come?
Does the lawsuit come with it?
I think that sticks with Alex personally, but I'd have to read the bankruptcy filing because there's certain things you can't do to get out of trouble.
So let's just say somebody wanted to buy Infowars.
But the company that wanted to buy them, they wanted to buy them minus the liability that comes with it, right?
Meaning, I want to be held harmless of the lawsuit.
I want to be held harmless of all the prior debt.
Could you do that or no?
Out of the bankruptcy, because are you buying it out of bankruptcy or no?
Yeah, you're buying it in a bankruptcy court.
And depending on what it is, it's like when we were looking at buildings to buy, you know, sometimes if there's a construction debt, that's got to be paid by whoever buys the building, right?
Because some construction guy is right on the building.
However, I do not know, but if you bought a building from a criminal and he's going to jail, his penalty goes with him.
You don't have to pay that penalty, but you could go buy a building out of bankruptcy from the government.
Make sense?
Yeah, I got it.
So it depends on how much of this is on Alex Jones by the government and how much of this is on Infowars because the only way, look, if they're trying to auction off InfoWars, the U.S. bankruptcy judge trying to force InfoWars to be auctioned off to make money to give to Sandy Hook.
You're not going to be able to auction it off if you're stuck with another $10 million you owe Sandy Hook because you bought Infowars.
That's got to stay with Alex.
So it'd be interesting to see how is the U.S. Bankruptcy Court assigning these.
What do you mean?
How do they assign it?
How much is attached to InfoWars and how much is attached to the libel that was committed by Alex Jones, the citizen?
Kenny, what are your thoughts on the story?
I don't know.
Because I was looking up while you guys were checking in who this guy, Ben Collins, was.
He's from Massachusetts.
He worked for NBC.
No surprise there.
His mother's a librarian.
Went to Emerson.
Tom, is Emerson pretty freaking liberal?
Completely.
Okay, thank you.
And I just, I don't like it.
It's one of the small Northeast colleges.
Like, I get it.
Okay, listen, if it's up for sale and you want to get it.
I don't like that smug, crappy attitude where it's like these conservative, like they're trying to get in there as if we're the ones spitting out this poison.
It's these people.
Those are the people that everybody's been talking crap about.
Just like what, Tim Walz' daughter, what was she saying yesterday?
Tim Walz' daughter was saying that people that listen to Joe Rogan's podcast are red flags.
Yeah, right.
And you got to stay away from us.
And it's like, I'm just sick and tired.
And it's just like we keep hearing these people and they're just not learning.
They're not getting it.
They're not getting the message that America wants to hear people like us.
They want to hear people like Joe Rogan.
They don't want to hear this.
And listen, and apparently it's not going to happen.
And I hope it doesn't.
I think it's stupid.
So walk me through what happened.
April 2024, Collins announced that the CEO of Global Tetrahedron, a company that has purchased the Onion.
So Onion was officially just sold six months ago.
Did you know that, Tom?
I did not know that.
It was bought by Global.
Tetrahedron.
Yeah, can you see what they paid for it?
Because I just looked up what they used to have 500,000 subscribers at their peak, and then it just fell off, according to one of the articles I just read.
The purchase originated from a post by Collins on Blue Sky after news broke that the then GO was looking to offload the magazine, amongst other titles.
And Collins won the assets of the website, Infowars at auction, despite the family zone.
The federal judge.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Interesting to see this guy's background and where he's at now.
By the way, the reason that Jones and everybody were alleging tampering by the federal government is because the other bidder that bid $3.5 million is First United American.
It is affiliated with Alex Jones, and it sells a lot of the stuff that he sells.
His apparel and I think there's health supplements or the things that he sells, the prepping vitamins and stuff.
So people were saying, you can't let First American buy this for $3.5 million.
You're letting Alex Jones buy it from himself out of bankruptcy, and he's still going to have a big mouth on the media.
Well, so what?
If that company is capable of buying it, then are they a bona fide bidder or not?
Maybe they are.
And if the federal government doesn't like that and they want to give it to the Onion, that was what Alex Jones was saying was the flaw to the process.
I tell you, I actually think it's a great move on the left to buy Infowars and dump it.
I think it's a great move on the left to buy InfoWars and dump it.
Strategically, it's like Elon Musk buying MSNBC.
Correct.
The opposing side will be celebrating that.
I think it's a great move to do that.
But if it's only for $2.5 million, there's nobody else that's willing to buy Infowars for $3 million, for $3.5 million, all the content.
It's going to be used later on in documentaries and stuff.
I don't know.
I think there's something there.
You don't have to agree with it or not, but that's going to be something that could be used for many, many years to come.
If they buy his network, InfoWars, Alex Jones just doesn't just go away.
He's not going to be silenced.
We still have the First Amendment.
Oh, they can fire him.
They'll fire him.
No, they will.
Yeah.
But then he'll go.
I think he at one point said, welcome to the Alex Jones Network.
He's just going to start a new company.
You know, this reminds me of it's a totally different situation.
So it's not an exact analogy.
But do you remember what they did with our buddy James O'Keefe?
What was his company called?
Project Veritas?
What does Project Veritas do now?
I don't know.
Nothing.
But I see what James O'Keefe is doing.
He's out there crushing it.
He just came out with the movie.
He started the O'Keeffe Network.
So OMG O'Keeffe Media Group, I want to say.
But the point is, even if they buy Infowars, Alex Jones is not going to stop.
And I'm not saying that everything that Alex Jones does is right or wrong.
We all know that he's paid the price for what he did with the Sandy Hook thing and the false claims and the crisis actors and everything that happened there.
Tragedy, horrible.
But let's move that aside.
You know, everything he did with Bohemian Grove, everything he's talked about with the gay frogs, you're turning the frog gay.
They know 9-11 lunch up.
This is freedom of speech.
This is the First Amendment.
He's allowed to say these things.
He's paid the price for what he's done.
I mean, by a, how much was that?
How much did he have to pay?
$1.5 billion?
It's a massive.
That's the same.
Yeah, see, that's perfectly.
So he's paying the price.
I mean, if you ever spent time with Alex Jones, actually enjoyed having dinner with him?
Good guy.
I mean, this guy has probably stressed the hell out of freedom of money.
Tell you what the onion sold for?
It didn't.
It said that the financial terms of the deal were not publicly disclosed.
If you type in the onion top line revenue, do you know what it is?
Top line revenue.
I know at one point, Trump was, I'm sorry, Musk was interested in buying the Onion Digital Media Publishing with $21.8 million in top line revenue with 389 employees.
It's not a big number.
No, it's a small number since 1988.
If that's the right number.
Chicago, Illinois.
Here, Rob, if you want to.
Elon Musk can buy this stuff with a change in his pocket, right?
Well, I mean, this is the part if you want to show this, Rob.
This is where I found the article from, RocketReach.co.
No, just look at the link I just texted you because the RocketReach.co shows how big these guys are and they're buying InfoWars.
Interesting.
All right.
It's not really them buying Infowars.
It's who bought them is buying Infowars.
Yeah, zoom in a little bit.
There it is.
The Onion, $21.8 million in Rev, 389 employees, $159 on Rocket Reach, founded in 1988.
I don't know how accurate this number is, but those are the numbers that you got.
So it's a small company since 1988 that's still doing 21, 22 million a year that was bought out.
And everything they've published about themselves has always been a joke.
Like right here.
The onion now enjoys a daily readership of 4.3 trillion and has grown into the single most powerful and influential organization in human history.
They used to write all kinds of stuff about themselves on the other side.
Oh, you used to text me onion stuff 15 years ago.
Tom was a big fan of onions.
They change in 16.
Yeah, you notice I don't send anything.
I don't read it.
And you don't like onions, so.
No, you actually hate onions.
That is probably not allowed.
All right, let's go to the next story.
Let's talk about United Healthcare.
So, Rob, do you have the clip of his outburst outside the Pennsylvania courthouse?
If you have that, let me just read this while you're looking for it.
So, oh, you have it.
Okay, let me just read this real quick.
Lucia Maggioni, the man charged with the murder in the death of United Healthcare, C.O. Brian Thompson, broke his day of silence with an outburst as he was escorted into a Pennsylvania courthouse where he challenged his arrest.
It's completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and its lived experience.
Man, Joan shouted, prompting his detail of about 10 officers to hurry him inside, dressed in orange jumpsuit.
Man, Joan appeared unfazed.
He was seen whispering with his attorney, Thomas Dickey, great last name, glancing at reporters and mumbling to himself at the Blair County court hearing around 2 p.m.
Prosecutors say he has $8,000 in U.S. cash and $2,000 in foreign cash, masks, a passport on him, in addition to a ghost gun and a silencer resembling the weapon killed to kill Thompson when he was apprehended by police in Altoona on Monday.
Go ahead, Rob.
complete insult to the intelligence of humankind american people Can you play it again on what he says?
Did you catch what he said, Rob, or no?
Go a little bit back.
And why they won't let him say nothing?
He could talk.
Out of touch.
It's an insult to the intelligence of the American people.
Okay, it's really three things.
Insult to the American people.
The intelligence of the American people and their lived experience.
And their lived experience.
Yes.
Right.
And their lived experience.
So I got something here yesterday that was sent to me that I was reading, and I kind of showed it with you guys with Tom.
Okay, Rob, if I'll text this to you, if you don't mind showing this, I'll keep reading it so the audience can see it as well on The timeline of what happened here.
Okay.
So it was interesting reading this.
The story says, it says, born into a wealthy family, attends a 40-year, $40,000 a year private school, becomes valedictorian, earns a bachelor's and master's in computer science by 26, no criminal record,
no behavior red flags, clean slate, sharp-dressed, photogenic, genic, active on social media, vacations abroad, posts polished photos, looks like he's thriving, lands internship and builds a resume that screams success,
spends free time exploring AI mushrooms and self-optimization trends, writes a Goodreads review on Ted K, Sprinkles, and Safe Edgy, joins the professional world, follows the system scripts perfectly, no sign of instability, just another rising star in tech scene, disappears with friends for three months, then he kills the CEO.
What happened for those three months?
Who are the friends?
What do we know about them?
Now, while this is going on, 50 Cent posted something, Rob, if you don't mind pulling this up on 50 Cent.
50 Cent posted this on Instagram.
On Instagram, he posted a picture of Luigi.
And then he said something like, You won't understand me posting this.
Do you see it?
Or maybe he was, he's not a guy that would take it down.
He posted something and said, you won't understand this, but I made the 50 Cent.
Luigi Mangion.
He said something about, I don't know, I kind of like this kind of killer right there.
Zoom in.
Do you see it right there?
Zoom in a little bit.
I don't know.
I kind of like this killer.
I'm sorry that this is going this way since deleted the post.
Makes sense.
I'm sorry this is going this way.
It is, but I'm doing a documentary on him.
He is special.
I apologize in advance for anyone who doesn't understand.
50 Cent said this about the guy.
So, Vinny, what do you know so far about what's going on since the last podcast?
And you mentioned this yesterday in the prep.
It doesn't make any sense.
Like, I keep hearing these stories.
Every time something like this happens, I take a step back.
Like when Adam, when you say, you know, follow the money, sometimes I'm like, what is happening?
What makes somebody do something like this?
And it came out of nowhere and it's a complete shock to everybody.
And the book, Chaos, remember the book Chaos that Candace told me to recommended by Tom O'Neill?
Pat, it was talked about the CIA, Charles Manson, and all the 60s and what they were doing back in those days.
There was a psychiatrist.
And for those that have read the book, who spoke to Jack Ruby.
Remember the guy that shot Lee Harvey Oswald in the basement?
Yeah.
So his name was Dr. Louis Jolian Jolly West.
His name is Dr. Jolly West.
He was a prominent psychiatrist with documented ties to the CIA's MKUltra program.
He was focused on mind control experiments.
They use drugs, they use psychological manipulation and other techniques.
So while Ruby's in prison, this Dr. West, who has connections with the CIA, examined Ruby for several hours by himself, no cameras or nothing, just talking to him in the prison.
And when he was done with him, he had lost his mind.
He literally lost his mind.
He was saying stuff like, I was injected with something.
I'm being silenced.
He was like a completely different person.
He's like, they're going to kill the Jew.
Like he lost his gourd.
Okay.
And he, once he left that several hour meeting, his mental state deteriorated and it led to his death.
So my thing is, and great point.
Who was talking to this guy?
Who and why?
Is it a distraction?
Was this guy unleashed to do whatever he was going to do because of all the stuff that's happening in Syria?
The stuff that's happened with Jay Z.
I don't know.
It just doesn't add up.
And all this is going to be is in the news for another week, Pat, and then it's gone.
And then we don't hear about this guy.
But the explanation, I would like to get deeper.
Connect that for me a little bit better.
Yes.
The psychiatrist goes in.
So Jack Ruby kills Oswald.
Yes.
The cop moves out of the way.
They all believe that.
Ruby was told to do it.
Yes.
So Ruby kills Oswald.
It's a quick trial.
He's guilty.
He goes to prison.
This guy, connected to the CIA, Dr. Jolly West, Jolly West, goes to review him an hour or two, whatever it was.
Several.
Several hours.
Several hours.
And you're saying when that guy leaves the prison, he was bonkers.
Lost his mind.
Okay.
And he said he was injected with something while he was there.
He said he was injected.
And he was trying to be silenced.
And then he literally lost his mind.
Okay, now take that back now to this guy.
Yes.
While he was where for these three months that he was gone, who got to him?
Who spoke with him?
Who radicalized his son?
Could somebody have somebody have taken him during those 90 days to shape his mindset to take a vote and do something like this?
Yep.
I agree, and I'll tell you why.
There was deep investigations.
You can go look at the London subway bombings.
What's that?
12 years ago now?
Something like that?
The London subway bombings.
And you can go find out what they found out about the radical Muslim clerics.
And people said, yeah, 20 years ago now.
It's now 20 years ago, 2005.
That people said, yes, I'm a Muslim, but we're peaceful Muslims.
This is what we care about.
But my son was with these clerics, and it didn't take long.
To your point, Pat, what happens those 90 days?
That's what I'm saying.
And people said that there were confused Muslim parents that when you listened to them speak, they didn't seem like, you know, out there.
It sounded like that Muslim was their faith, but they were not radicalized.
And they were shocked at what had happened at the hands of these clerics in such a short time with their kids.
So there are precedents we have out there to say, wow, something can happen pretty quick if people that know what they're doing get to your kid and get to a person and turn him into a pawn.
That didn't look like.
So why don't we do this?
Why don't we do this?
Why don't we do this?
Okay.
Can we do this?
Can we map out what the possibilities are?
Okay.
From the logical one to the wildest one.
Okay.
Let's kind of go through it.
One.
The surgery that happened on his back rob, if you can pull up the surgery on his back, the pictures of the surgery on his back.
You know which one I'm talking about.
There's a picture right there, right?
That's him.
Can you see Newsweek?
Okay.
So did Luigi Mangioni's back pain surgery go wrong?
Click on the story.
Let's see what that is.
Go wrong.
What we know about this story.
All right.
Zoom in a little bit.
So let's read this.
Mangioni was fixing charge.
Okay, got it.
So it's a shooting, December 4th, significant speculation on motivation.
The boss killed down.
Okay.
Back pain.
According to reports from Forbes, Mangioni posted a Reddit on Reddit that back that is pain in his back in the months before the shooting, writing, my spondy went bad on me last year.
It was completely devastating as a young athletic person.
According to WAPO, friends of Mangioni said that the reason he moved to Hawaii, which is his registered last address, was to get better health.
Mangioni posted on his x-ray of his spine on social media with the image appearing to indicate a case of spondyl lystis, okay?
A condition caused by vertebrates slipping out of place, which can cause chronic pain.
In analysis of the image, neurosurgeon Tyler Cole said that the surgery Mangiono received appeared to be suboptimal and that he would likely have continued to experience nerve pain after the operation.
Golalore.
So this is an expert doctor commenting on what he saw.
That's right.
So the lack of good ALIF, along with the subsidence, likely worsened the L5 Radicular pain by not restoring disc height and causing neuroforminal compression.
You can fuse with continued misalignment as long as disc height is restored and foremen are open.
But the overall point is valid.
Looks like suboptimal surgery.
Okay, so the doctor speaking in the doctor language in the analysis of the expert grunt said this potentially could mean he even suffered from failed spinal fusion.
A failed spinal fusion could lead to chronic back.
Okay, individual.
Okay, very aware of this.
I totally understand this part.
I take care of these kinds of patients all the time.
And it is constant battle with insurance companies trying to get patients what they need to help them deal with their pain.
Okay, so simple.
Hey, man, you did the surgery.
My pain is worse.
You and I, we talk about this all the time, right?
Yep.
And you go to the doctor.
There's three things we can do.
We can do surgery.
No, you can do the PRP.
All right, whatever.
You can do the steroids or you can do the stem cell.
Here's one thing you can do.
Stem cell out of your joint, the bone that puts it, the marrow, and that's the high quality.
We can improve it.
All right.
I don't recommend.
We can burn the nerve.
That's what they want to do.
We burn the nerve and it kind of alleviates some of the pain every year.
And then maybe you'll burn it again and burn it again, burn it again.
But almost everybody you talk to is, don't do a surgery on your back.
Period.
90% of people say, if you don't have to do it, don't do it.
All right.
Is that a reason to kill somebody?
Maybe.
Let's set that aside.
One, speculation.
Two, go, you know, 90 days, the story you said.
They got to him, brainwashed him, whatever happened, prepared him to go out there and take him out.
Yes.
Okay.
Three, bad friends, manipulation, hardcore, hating the government, hating insurance industry.
Let's do something about it.
Somebody told him, nobody will, I will take this guy out.
That's four.
Five, Brian Thompson is going to it.
Somebody got this guy to go take him out because of whatever reasons that was going to happen.
Okay.
Six, Brian Thompson, who had the highest percentage of what?
Declines, 32%.
32% rates.
Highest percentage of declines, 32%.
Maybe he was going to go in and recommend to say, guys, we got to kind of become industry standard.
We're hated by everybody right now.
We can't be doing this.
And the investors are like, no, no, no, we can't do this.
We got to take this guy out.
I don't know if you guys have seen the movie, The Accountant.
Shout out to Kevin O'Gano, phenomenal director.
The accountant remembered that investigation he did, that he found that that was happening.
They're like, wait a minute, you got to get the hell out of here.
You're getting a little bit too deep into this stuff.
I mean, what else could it be outside of that, Tom?
Vinny, what else could it be outside of that?
I'm trying to rack my baby.
Because I was thinking maybe somebody in this family got screwed over by the thing.
That's not the case.
We read yesterday, family, third Tuesday.
Family is a very, very well-off family.
37 grandkids.
He's one of the 37 grandkids.
The rest of them are doing apparently fine.
And he's a guy that kills a CEO.
And that's where you have to ask yourself a question because when we talk about MK Ultra, you talk about the CIA.
People want to just brush you off.
From the 50s to the 70s, they were doing this stuff.
Verbal manipulation, LSD, drugs.
And think about it.
It's 2024.
Do you know how advanced they have to have to have gotten?
I don't know the actual motive.
Is it to distract us?
Is it because they wanted to actually take this guy out?
It doesn't take that long.
If it took Jolly West, and this is documented, this psychiatrist worked with the CIA for, imagine that was for a couple hours at Ruby.
If you have three months with this guy, easy money.
Just the way he did it.
Guys, Tom, I'm an expert marksman and two guns.
Okay.
If I had a gun and you shoot all the time, why are you stopping, sitting while he's walking away and moving target and you're doing this?
A real shooter, you just walk up, bow, one shot behind the head, and you walk away.
This was just boom like a robot.
It doesn't match.
It doesn't make sense.
Where are you going with that?
Doesn't match as in like the shooting, the killing.
He's not a shooter.
It's not a pro hit.
Exactly.
It's not a pro-did you see the other picture, the picture with the eyebrows.
Yeah, they don't match.
They don't match.
Have you seen that one, Rob?
Luigi Mangionia, you type in eyebrows and everybody's talking about not that, not that one.
It's the other one right there.
No, there's one that's one that's a better one that shows the eyebrows just don't match.
You know, one eyebrow, the eyebrows were more divided in that picture.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if it's that one or not.
Anyways.
I can ask you a question.
Do you think, here's like, is he going to be able to talk?
Are we going to hear him?
Are we going to be able to hear why and what?
Is he going to be on one of those interviews where we could sit with him?
You really think so?
I'm very intrigued to find out who's going to talk to this guy.
That's it right there.
Like he has some bushy, bushy eyebrows.
That's before.
That's when the shooting happened.
And now all of a sudden he's grown he looks Middle Eastern from there.
But I don't know.
I don't see us talking to this guy.
Adam, what do you think?
This is a very disturbing situation because let's just start some facts and then some opinions.
And I want to give you some quick headlines.
Allegedly, and we're going to use that word very lightly, this guy just murdered this guy in cold blood from behind, six in the morning, silencer gun, boom, dead.
So my question is, why are so many people sympathetic to this guy?
Specifically on the left, why do so many people on the left treat this guy as a hero?
I'm in a group chat with a bunch of my buddies.
They're like, he did the right thing.
They needed to do this.
I said, he needed to cold-blooded murder the CEO of this company.
Here's this guy, Brian Thompson, came from a middle-class family, worked his way up, became CEO of a massive company.
We all understand what that.
But then you read some of the headlines.
And what I'm trying to do is unpack why people feel a certain way about this, right?
So the alleged killer has ill will toward corporate America.
We understand that.
Corporate profits.
United Healthcare, double what the industry average of declination rates was.
Joe Rogan had some things to say.
He was speaking with Quentin Tarantino.
He said the following.
Healthcare, healthcare industry.
It's effing gross.
It's a dirty, dirty business.
The business of insurance is effing gross, especially healthcare insurance.
It's effing gross.
That's Joe Rogan.
We saw what Burger King, I'm not sure if it was true or not true.
What happened with that?
I texted this, Rob.
If they actually did this, they said, Burger King, we don't snitch.
Almost mocking.
I said I didn't find it on their Twitter.
Okay, that's what I'm saying.
I don't know if it was true or not true.
They don't think they tweeted that.
The point is, people are making a joke of someone being murdered in cold blood.
Can you explain why you put that?
Why did Burger King say we don't mitigate it?
Because he was caught in McDonald's and McDonald's basically called the cops on him.
As they should.
If I mean they did.
What ended up happening is Google, that McDonald's got so many negative reviews that Google had to pull the negative.
Is this the card, Rob?
Put this up real quick, 30 seconds, just put this up.
The McDonald's, where he was spotted.
It's called review bombing.
Negative, even one-star reviews have flooded the restaurants, Google, and Yelp pages, forcing the two companies to remove the comments.
Some of them had terms like rats and snitches.
And even before Mangione was identified, legions of online marketing.
I mean, it's disgusting.
To the point where people are just mocking murder.
So in New York, New Yorkers celebrate the assassination of United Healthcare CEO with a look-alike contest.
This is the winner right here.
The winner, you know how much money?
The winner won from doing this, from doing a look-alike contest on the murder.
You know, how much money they want?
A whopping ready?
$50.
They held a controversial shooter look-alike contest in Washington State Park mocking the assassination of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
So there we go.
And then you have the girl Taylor Lorenzo we talked about earlier, saying, I felt joy about this.
Guys, this guy was murdered in Columbia.
Pull up the professor, Rob.
Pull up the professor.
Yeah, the professor.
Here we go.
There's a professor of Columbia.
This is Pen.
Pen.
Oh, no.
Was it Penn?
Play this clip, Rob.
So I can't play.
She has music in the background, but this is the clip.
I've never been prouder to be a professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Okay, Penn, here it is.
Blue hair.
No, here it is right here.
Julia Alexiavia faced backlash after celebrating Luigi Mangioni, celebrating him.
She is a socialist and an anti-fascist on TikTok, including where she wrote, I've never been prouder to be a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, accompanied by the song, Do You Hear the People Sing?
She reportedly called Mangiani the icon we all need and disgusting, like unbelievable.
Like, what the hell are you?
Well, yet again, the left is showing their freaking true colors, man.
It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
But my interest is understanding why so many people are treating this guy like a hero.
You saw what he wrote on the bullets was it was deny, defend, depose.
Okay.
The number one cause for bankruptcy in America are medical bills.
There's something going on here, and not that I'm condoning this whatsoever, but it is helping create a conversation.
We've done so many episodes on hospitals ripping people off per night that they're staying there.
Health insurance.
I left the health insurance industry specifically because of how it was half the time.
Like every single time you wanted to use something for the services, well, you know, this is going to be this.
Well, I don't know about this.
And, well, I don't know about this.
Well, I don't know about this.
And then you watch John Q, and John Q was a movie where it's like, dude, look, this is a little out of control.
And then you see the number of declines.
Like, the reason why I liked life insurance, you know what life insurance does?
Like you have a two-year incontestability clause, right?
That they're not going to be able to do that.
Yeah, which means, guess what?
If I buy life insurance and I don't tell you I have AIDS and, you know, all of a sudden you die in six months and it's like, oh, $2 million.
What?
What happened?
You just only paid $600 a premium and I got to pay $2 million.
I'm going to investigate it.
Incontestability clause.
No, we're not doing this.
You didn't disclose that to us.
Boom.
You used somebody else's blood when they tested you.
This isn't you.
We're not paying a $2 million.
Insurance companies can do that for two years to protect them.
Wow.
Happens all the time.
After two years, guess what?
Hey, it is what it is.
We have to pay the premium out.
Life then PNC.
Right now, the problem with auto insurance is auto insurance companies are not making money right now.
So they're leaving states.
Remember.
Property and casualty companies are leaving states like Florida and they're leaving states like California and they're leaving states where there's a lot of theft with cars being stolen.
New York, some of the places.
Like, dude, it's just not profitable to be there, right?
Health insurance, man.
Those guys are freaking, you know, on big pharma.
What they do with a medicine that you can sell for five bucks, they sell it for $2,000 because they can.
There's a lot of that going on.
And that's the part that you're hoping, Bobby, and some of these guys do something about.
But at what cost?
To celebrate killing a CEO?
Yeah, I don't play that.
No.
No.
No, you got to be careful with that, Tom.
There's a couple of things going on here.
So let's just for one moment, you know, step away from the fact that it was health insurance industry and all the gooey grime and disgust that we're talking about.
Let's just look at the celebration over the killer.
There is underlying a war going on in this country with socialist Marxists that literally want capitalist conservatives dead.
I'll prove it to you.
Do you remember the Boston bombing?
The two brothers, I think it was T.S.A. Saranayov.
He ended up on the cover of Rolling Stone.
Yeah, Rolling Stone.
He's on the cover of Rolling Stone as the hot terrorist and being glamorized.
Let's remember what happened there that a week prior, he ran over his brother, killing him in the police chase.
Do you remember that?
He ran over his brother.
Yeah, of course.
The two of them that had made the crockery pressure cooker crockpot bombs with nails and everything in their design to do it.
12 years ago, 11 years ago, right, Tom?
More than that.
Isn't this?
I want to say it was 2013.
2013.
Okay, there it was.
So remember the romantic moment they had with him.
It's the same.
Forget about healthcare just for a second.
It's the same romantic response from certain members of the left, socialist Marxists that like it when they think they think of these guys as freedom fighters.
They think of these guys as soldiers in their cause.
Don't mistake that.
That's why they're like, I've never been prouder.
Oh, this guy.
And so I don't know what 50 Cent is saying and what he's meaning or what he's not meaning, but there's a lot of voices go out there that, oh, this is joy from a reporter who's clearly a socialist Marxist.
She absolutely is.
She hates capitalism.
She hates Trump.
She hates all that it stands for.
She's there.
There is a romantic love when one of their guys breaks through because it's simple.
They think he's a soldier.
Yeah, I think it's such a great point because the Boston bomber, how they romanticize this guy, put him on the cover.
There's a direct line from this guy, an actual terrorist who killed Americans in the Boston bombing, right to the Gays for Gaza Brigade, basically celebrating Hamas terrorists killing innocent people.
There's something going on there with the people who are in the world.
What about the Nightstalker?
You're right.
The left Marxist thinks they're soldiers.
I've never been more proud to be at University of Penn because we helped educate, and this guy is a soldier in the cause.
And look at the people that are showing up.
Remember the Nightstalker?
Serial killer and rapist in California.
You remember this guy, Richard Ramirez?
Bro, he got married.
Girls were coming and like, they had a crush.
Something just happened recently with Wade Phillips.
What was the guy's name?
Not Wade Phillips.
Wade Wilson.
Wade Wilson.
No, Wade Wilson, this guy.
Who's this guy?
Who girls were.
Girls love the guy.
It's like, oh, Ransom kills women.
And they're like, he got married.
Tell me about it.
Like the professor thing.
You know, Neil deGrasse Tyson, I'm not bringing him into this, but when you've built nothing and you're just all you do, those that can't do, teach, and you're just in school and you're getting educated and you're in these Marxist universities.
You've never built a company.
You have no employees.
All you want to do is take.
Yeah.
Let's go to the next story.
Let's go to the next story.
All right.
So next story I want to go to is the acquittal of Daniel Penny that just happened.
Phil Mickelson, while this is happening, I mean, Phil Mickelson, some call him one of the greatest golfers of all time, goes on Twitter and says the following, random thoughts.
Mike Terico, Chris Collins Worth are great in the booth.
Day of the Jackal is an incredible show.
If a deranged individual threatens to kill you, let's hope there's a Daniel Penny around.
Phil Michelson.
Good for him for saying that.
Then on CNN, the great Scott Jennings goes off again and watch what happens when he says this.
Just be ready for it.
They're going to lose their mind in three seconds.
Go ahead.
If you're on the American left tonight, here's my chart.
The good guys today, Daniel Penny.
The bad guys, Luigi, Mangioni.
It seems to me, how do you want to chart for victims?
I'm just telling you what I see out there.
I know, I know.
When I see the charge, what I'm saying is what I'm telling you is people on the left, people on the left can't seem to tell the difference between the victims about people on the left.
I want to know whether you think that as Congressman Crane does, that Daniel Penny should get the Congressional Gold Medal to recognize his heroism.
I'm not asking you about anyone.
I think he ought to get medical.
I think they ought to build a statue to this guy in New York City.
I'm going to say it.
I'm going to say the credit R word.
Race plays a role in race.
Here we go.
And so we see it.
Absolutely.
Because statistics say that it's not going to be a problem.
No, no, no, you see it to be about race.
Hang on, hang on.
Back up.
You have to hear what he says here.
Back up.
You have to hear what he says here.
Very important.
Go ahead, Rob.
Right?
And so we see it.
Yes, absolutely.
Because statistics say that.
Wasn't there a simple case in the words statistics say that when people kill people who are white, they tend to get harsher sentences, especially if they're people of color.
What about the George case?
That is what happens in our criminal justice system.
First of all, no, I'm not going to stop it because race absolutely explains the role in it.
I said, what about the Jordan Williams case here in New York?
Same situation.
African-American gets on a subway, ends up killing a guy, grand jury tosses it out at the exact same time as the penny can be.
What about a black hat?
Oh, this guy's single.
Everything is about race.
I love it.
And it's just all right.
I sent this to Rob.
Pat, can we show that, Rob?
When's the last time you owned a New York City train?
This is the type of stuff that people on the train have to deal with every single day.
And this is just a regular one.
He doesn't have a knife.
He doesn't have a gun, but you're sitting on the train trying to go to work.
Look at this guy, Tom.
Look, look.
He's just look.
Look, look.
Crazy people on the train.
Nobody's doing anything.
Yeah.
Look.
And by the way, this goes on.
You can stop it, Ron.
This happens all the time.
There's another one I saw where there was shooting outside.
People are on the bottom of the train.
One guy's laying sideways, urinating all over the place.
Okay.
This guy stepped up.
The fact that that guy goes, I hate to use the R word and bring in race.
You don't hate it.
You love it because it's all you have to go on.
That's exactly right.
The fact that the victim, unfortunately, this guy that was deranged and it was threatening people was African-American reminds me of the t-shirt and almost famous.
You need that t-shirt.
That t-shirt you love.
It allows you to say everything you want to say.
So in this case, the fact that the assailant that was neutralized and perished, let's remember, he wasn't attacked.
He was neutralized, restrained, and he perished after because citizens took actions, including an African-American citizen that was helping Penny hold them down when he was still waving his arms and struggling, right?
Why was he struggling?
Because he wanted to get up and hurt people.
And so now you go on CNN and you sit here and you say race played a part.
Yeah, the part it plays is it gives you something to talk about.
It gives you something.
The United States is not a perfect country yet.
We've still got growth and things we have to do.
But you know what?
When you sit there and you refuse to look at the facts of what's happened and you use, so you refuse the facts and you use things to make your point and to bend it the other way, you are disingenuous, you are wrongheaded, and you are the racist that's inciting the violence going in the other direction.
I'm looking at you, MSNBC.
Adam.
Yeah, there's Tom's pissed.
This is all sort of downstream from one thing, which is critical race theory, which needs a victim mentality in order to basically exist.
It's the whole oppressed versus the oppressor mentality.
It's the hero versus the victim.
We've seen this, but it's interesting, all these buzzwords that get thrown out there.
You know, the people on the right, what I've come to realize, use the buzzwords like common sense, accountability, efficiency, merit.
These are the words they use.
The people on the left use words like diversity, equity, inclusion.
It's not fair.
It's racist.
It's sexist.
They're constantly making excuses for the reasons that they're right and the other side is wrong.
We see what's going on here.
And look, Trump was just elected because he was the least crazy person in the race.
All right.
So the left is eating themselves.
And you have this guy, Scott Jennings, out here just basically bing, ding, bing, dismantling CNN, and they're paying him to do it.
It's incredible.
So what was the whole situation when he said, excuse me, ma'am, what was that whole conversation?
Oh, yeah, with Julie.
Don't call me dear.
Don't call me dear.
You called me dear.
Like, guys, you're freaking out because some guy called you dear.
It's just so interesting to me.
It's just victim culture.
Because I thought dear was more polite than crazy bitch.
Sorry.
How's me?
How's your dear girlfriend doing?
My dear girlfriend's doing okay, PBD.
Thank you about that.
But what it is, it's upside, up is down, left is right, hell is heaven, and it's the home invader who's basically suing the guy who owns the home because you shot me because I entered your house illegally.
He's like, oh, you were mean to me when I tried to rape and kill your family out here at Grape.
And now I'm suing you.
It's so backwards.
And this is why common sense needs to be brought back to America.
All right, let's go to the next one.
So, folks, with the last few weeks left until inauguration, Joe Biden decides to give Iran $10 billion in sanctions relief days after Trump won election.
And at the same time, the U.S. Treasury turns frozen Russian assets into $20 billion loan for who?
Ukraine.
Rob, if you can play the clip of KJP talking about the money they're giving out, watch this clip here, folks.
Go ahead.
Following the G7's June agreement and the President's October commitment, the United States has dispersed $20 billion to a new World Bank fund that will provide economic support for Ukraine.
The U.S. and G7 loans will be paid back by the interest earned from Russia's immobilized sovereign assets, increasingly putting the cost of the war on Russia, not on U.S. taxpayers.
After Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine, the G7 made a commitment that Russian sovereign assets in our jurisdictions will remain immobilized until Russia ends its aggression and pays for the damages it has caused Ukraine.
The United States and G7 are now making good on that commitment.
Together, we will leverage income earned from frozen Russian sovereign assets to provide a total of $50 billion of extraordinary revenue acceleration ERA loans to Ukraine.
This will lend vital support to the people of Ukraine as they defend their country.
And it also makes clear aggressors and tyrants will be responsible for the damage they cause.
What about the drones in Jersey, you dumb idiot?
$50 billion.
Tom, I'm going to have a heart attack.
Yep, and I'm going to help you.
Have it?
Watch this.
Okay, Rob, can you find us the chart for SIAD, which is the S ⁇ P 500 Aerospace and Defense Index, ETF?
Yep.
It's an ETF.
Yeah.
SIAD, or maybe dollar sign, S-I-A-D.
Dollar sign, S-I-A-D, ETF chart.
Yep.
Yep.
There you go.
What you can look at is over, and that's like the day you need to find it for like the year.
But you'll notice these little spikes.
And these little spikes happen right after we give money to Ukraine.
You want to know why?
Because the investors in this know exactly what's going on.
And part of that money makes a U-turn back to blowing.
General Dynamics, Honeywell.
And people make shit that blows up.
Wow.
And it comes, makes a U-turn.
And that's what's going on.
And when you go take S-I-A-D.
There you go.
And it's an ETF.
And it's an ETF that tracks the stocks.
And so every time we give money to Ukraine, you can watch it make a little pop-up.
It's Nancy Pelosi on steroids, ladies and gentlemen.
And so who is unfreezing them?
Lobbyists.
This isn't Biden.
Biden is drooling in the back somewhere, wondering what's in the eggnog.
That's where Biden is.
This is the shadow government that's been doing this for a while, finding more money.
Hey, what if we can freeze the Russian assets and just point them over here?
And then the defense lobbyists, oh man, that's brilliant.
Do that.
It's simple.
I think that's all that's happening right now.
I think that's all that's been happening.
So Tom, somebody that, like, obviously there's not that smart to just sit there and grab their phone and do that.
We know Ukraine has been corrupt for forever.
Okay.
So the fact that they're giving all this money, they're giving all this money, Tom.
So you're saying, let's see, because we've given them so far almost.
And now they're corrupt in Bentley's.
Yeah, exactly.
We've given them almost 200 billion of your dollars, my dollars.
So we give them this money.
Then they have to hire American companies to protect the bombs, the planes, everything.
So the people that are sending it and approving it, we're going to get their war toys.
They're not buying nukes.
They're not buying heavy stuff.
But where do they get their basic war toys?
From us.
Right.
Wow.
So it's just a money laundering scheme.
A big-ass money laundering scheme.
I believe that.
I believe that.
When they're going and meeting with Trump at all these meetings, and Trump's shaking Macron's hand and almost breaks his shoulders.
And I love that a lot of it.
He looks like he's breaking his shoulder.
And there's one part where Macron says, hey, can you hug Zelensky's hand?
I don't know if you saw that clip or not.
And then he comes back.
Have you seen that clip?
You have to see Macron's handshake.
Who shakes hands like this?
Oh, boom.
Get it up there.
Hey, look at Macron.
Get it up there, DJT.
He's never shaken.
He loves.
He's grimacing.
Macron's like, I love this.
There's another one, Rob.
This guy's famous for his handshakes on what he does.
Go back a little bit.
When he gets out of the car.
You type in Macron and Zelensky.
Just type in.
No, no, right there.
Just add Trump Macron-Zelinsky handshake.
Let's see if they have it.
That's hilarious.
That's the middle one right there.
He's like, hey, you mind shaking Zelensky's hand?
Yeah, I'll rip his arm off.
Hey, come over here.
Boom.
Yeah.
I love the tap.
The top of the left.
Look, he hits you twice.
He almost ripped your arm off.
And then he's Trump telling them.
What's Trump telling him?
He's saying, hey, come here.
Just so you know.
The money's done.
It's done.
It's over, bro.
Get as much as you can.
When I'm here, you better get your act together and go start dancing and go put on a suit.
Start dancing again.
Anyways, the greatest fundraiser of all time.
You got to give him some kind of credit on what he's done, Adam.
Look, you did an amazing episode about the history of income taxes or how to eliminate income taxes.
I encourage you guys all out there to watch this.
It's actually pretty eye-popping and mind-blowing how basically this works.
Back to 1776, 100% of our 99 point something percent of our federal revenue came from tariffs.
It's an amazing explanation of how we can all basically pay 0% in income taxes, how it could be done.
You know, Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency, is going to basically come in there and hopefully cut the fat, clean house, and make our government more efficient.
And hopefully we can all pay a lot less in taxes.
But what it was, 1894, Supreme Court ruled that income taxes were unconstitutional.
1913, they came out with the Revenue Act.
That's what it was right there, right?
Federal Reserve.
Okay.
Yeah.
So the U.S. government, I want to say this year, brought in about $4.7 trillion income in taxes, but we spent, what, $6 trillion, over $6 trillion?
So we're in the black.
We're in the negative.
We're not balancing the budget.
The last time we balanced the budget was Clinton, I believe, in his second term in the late 90s.
Regardless, tariffs are a thing.
The reason I bring that up is when you look at what we're spending our money on, right?
Our biggest expenses are in the trillions.
That's Social Security, healthcare.
What is it?
1.6, 1.4, just massive, massive amounts.
But when you go line by line, I want to say our defense budget is just slightly below a trillion, about 800, 900 billion.
Is that what it is, PBD?
Defense, that's money that we're spending on defense.
I want to say the money that we're paying just in to pay off our debt alone is what, a trillion bucks, PBD?
Okay.
So when people are saying we're spending all this money in Ukraine, we're giving this money to Israel.
Taiwan, 1%, 1% foreign aid.
So do I want to see this money going all across the world?
No, I would like to see it used at home.
But let's not pretend that that is the biggest expenditure that we have in our balance sheet.
This is pennies on the dollar to protect, quote unquote, our allies.
Now, do I want to see more money flow, flow and flow?
Ukraine, I would like to see this war end for sure.
But I will say with the fall of Syria, it sort of made us at least take a pause and say, maybe, maybe this is a return on investment that is worth the price.
Why?
Because let's say Iran falls next.
Let's just say.
Let's say they fall next.
Is that worth the price of $100 billion?
I would say yes.
So is this money have a return on investment?
It might be so.
Because if Iran had money to basically give money to the Assad regime, Bashar al-Assad would still be in power.
If Putin wasn't fighting this war in Ukraine, he was their biggest backer, I want to say, in Syria.
They would have basically bailed out Syria.
So all I want to do is acknowledge the fact that maybe, just maybe, the fact that we are funding Ukraine as well as the EU and funding our allies, that our actual biggest enemies, Russia, Iran, possibly North Korea, might end up falling in the line.
I absolutely disagree 1,000% with any money going to, especially Ukraine.
Russia is not our enemy.
Russia is not threatening us.
We're the ones that are pushing this dude to F with us.
I 1,000% disagree.
Not $1 on the bank.
But you're going to have to give me math, not just emotions.
Just give me math.
Not emotions.
Look out calm right now.
If you think for right now that $200 billion to a losing war because they're funny this money and we still have people in the United States homeless and dying in North Korea.
Everyone uses the homeless thing.
What do you mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what you do?
Nothing.
Losers are going to be losers.
I'm sorry if it...
Adam, you know what?
You know what?
If you think every drug problem, listen, every home.
How does someone end up homeless?
So, you just want to fund the homeless?
That's what you're doing?
No, no, no, no.
As if they're going to just because you give them a home, they're just going to stop them out and just take care of themselves.
You're talking about did you even listen to what I said?
I'm just saying, I said people in North Carolina that were affected by a freaking hurricane that didn't have money because we're giving money to illegals in Ukraine.
That's part of the CBO.
No, time out.
1% of our budget.
I want hold on the 99%.
I don't want Adam zero money going to any country until everything here is fixed.
I'm talking about everything.
I love you.
You're living a pipe dream.
No, I'm not.
No, I'm not because we keep giving them a call away.
Every year we do this.
No, but guess what?
If you want to solve the problems in America, start with the trillions that we're spending on health care, the trillion that we're spending on defense, the trillions that we're spending on Social Security.
That's like saying, Adam, I'm broke.
And me being like, hey, Vinny, cancel your Netflix subscription.
Nobody.
Stop spending three grand in rent and move into a $1,200 apartment.
That's going to move the needle.
Not the $9.99 expense that you're spending on your reoccurring monthly expenditures.
Start with the truck.
It's a tension between the two of us.
Not the little Netflix thing.
I'm not supposed to interrupt anymore, but I'm going to push in a little bit here.
And I hear what Vinny's saying.
We have an urgent, incremental problem with all of these people that are still trying to recover from the hurricane in North Carolina.
In the middle of that urgent, incremental problem, why do we have urgent incremental money going to Ukraine in a war?
But you are right.
If you step back to the U.S. budget, he's right, Vinny.
You step back to it and you look at it as an annual budget thing, the unfunded, committed, you know, future promises of Medicare and Social Security is a freaking Mount Everest compared to some of the other things.
That's all that stuff.
And if you just look at his saying, but you're right.
I'm going to side with Vinny on this.
When I see an incremental issue with Americans at home that still haven't been able to get full relief from the hurricane, why can't the government be putting the incremental dollars there than sending it across the ocean to a war?
That's what you're saying.
And you're getting emotional about it because you see the hardship on the people, and I'm with you.
Yeah, Rob, I don't know if you could pull up the YouTube link.
Everyone should watch this thing, but you did this episode.
It came out, what, Monday, Tuesday?
About Tom's got Vinny's back.
Did you catch that?
Thomas Trump.
I got you, Vinny.
Do me a favor, one of the editors.
Hell with that.
I want you to just make a video of all the times they said, you know what?
Adam's right.
Adam was right.
Adam was right.
Adam's right.
That was great.
Thank you.
Because you say it from time to time.
You seem to.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
But this video right here, it's called the short text.
No, this is.
I saw this last night.
It's great.
It's fantastic.
Yeah, this is.
What was your biggest takeaway from doing this?
From what?
From that?
Yeah, just saying, how we're going to.
Can I make a comment on the Russia-Ukraine thing real quick?
So, the part about the Russia-Ukraine thing that's kind of technical when you go through the history where Putin wants to join NATO, which makes no sense to me.
No, no, he goes to Clinton and says, I want to join NATO.
Clinton calls back eight minutes later.
He says, Not right now.
NATO exists because of Russia.
No shit, Sherlock.
But what I'm saying is Putin's asking to join to say and give a message to the world.
I also don't want war.
That's what Putin's saying to Clinton.
Then why who does Clinton call to call back and say, not right now?
Why?
Is it because if all of a sudden we seem that everything is under control and good, then they can't be expanding west?
They can't be expanding more east.
Is that what it is?
When he wanted to kind of figure things out, how come they were doing that?
By the way, here's the other part that they did, which I kind of love.
Putin's move here was phenomenal, and I hope we do it in America.
When all the protesting was taking place in Ukraine and Russia, you know what he blamed?
He blamed a protest, particularly from the U.S., accusing Western funded NGOs of inciting unrest, which, by the way, you know what he did in 2012?
A law passed in 2012 in Russia requiring NGOs receiving foreign funding to register as foreign agents.
Would we not love that in America, by the way, if you're getting NGO money from somebody else?
If Soros is doing what he's doing, hey, man, I just want to let you know, I'm XYZ.
And then afterwards, when that's taking place, he wants to find a way to make things happen.
Hey, let's make this work.
No, we're going to get closer.
No, we're going to go east.
Of course, the guy's going to be pissed off.
So, in regards to the other stuff with the taxes you were telling me, we already talked about that on the fact that, you know, the income tax is being unconstitutional as of 1894, 1913 becomes income taxes, then Federal Reserve.
Then we're okay with people taking money out of our pockets.
I just, I'm excited to see what will happen if we decide to cut a lot of our expenses.
But, anyways, let's go to the next story here.
Next story I want to go to is, Rob, if you want to pull up Joy Reed, and then we got Caitlin Clark, and then we should wrap up.
Joy Reed from MSNBC says conservatism itself justifies violence.
Matter of fact, I think she can do a better job saying it than I just said it.
Go ahead, Robin.
Joyless.
We should not be surprised in this country that just re-elected Dollar Trump.
And I mean, the reality is, you know, if you go back to the Trayvon Martin case, you can go back before that.
You can go back to the justification for lynching conservatives with the conservatives wearing the D uniform of the R uniform.
Conservatism itself has justified violence.
January 6th, burning down Tulsa and Wilmington, overthrowing the government there.
If it's violence for the purposes they want, they're cool with it.
If the victim is somebody that I don't like or the victim is someone who they feel deserves it, then a lot of times people are willing to justify violence.
It's an unfortunate thing.
It's a very American thing, right?
I mean, we worship vigilante violence.
We worship action heroes.
We worship Charles Bonson and all these people who take it into their own hands.
Al Capone.
Al Capone, you know, criminals and everything else like that.
I think the sad part about this, frankly, is that I am not going to pretend that in a country that's been started and operated off of violence, that violence doesn't sometimes solve things.
I mean, can we just play some videos from the bank line?
I know you are joking.
Can we play for what happened in Chicago and Chaz and Portland?
Just play some of those videos.
You know what drives me crazy?
Let's talk about that, Jordan.
People like that, people like that.
It's only, I don't wish it, but like, she's not riding the train.
She's not sitting there with a crazy guy saying, I'm going to kill somebody and I want to go to jail and dealing with that person.
It's these people.
It's the Robert De Niros that are in their high-rise Upper East Side buildings that are like, oh, I don't see it.
Who is the Jane Fonda sitting in front of Bill Maher, smoking a cigar and drinking his freaking alcohol?
They're like, I don't see it.
Yeah, Jane, because you're sitting in a mansion protected with security and you're not with the people.
We're the ones on the ground.
We're the ones going.
And I really wish that somebody like that is put in a situation where they're going to need help, but there's no cops, where there's nobody, and a white guy is going to save her ass or save a family member and save something.
Or the white guy goes, hey, listen, joyless Reed, I kind of want to help, but I'm white and that guy's black.
I have to leave you here.
I wish that happened.
Continue your rant, but let me say the people of Minneapolis and Portland two years later said they wanted their cops back.
Yeah, I remember that.
They fund the police and they're like, no, we want you back.
How about refund the police?
Exactly.
You know what?
You've got it.
Conservatism justifies violence.
This is really, they are living in the coping and then the angst and then the anger and then the frustration and just the emotional Trump derangement system stress of post-election reality because they hate that it happened.
They hate it.
I will say what I've said before.
It says, look, I, as a conservative, I just think they're wrong.
I don't want anything bad to happen to Joy Reed.
I wish that something good could happen that we could actually talk.
I just think she's wrong.
She thinks I'm evil and that it is justified to use violence to shut me down.
That is the reality.
That is what's going on.
Conservatism justifies violence.
If you go the other way and you could say, well, liberalism is stealing with me through taxes.
And you start going down those rabbit holes.
It's bad.
You end up in a place where people say, let's take up arms against our oppressor because they're stealing with us in tax.
No, we have to come to moderated viewpoints in a civil society and move people's minds to a new level of understanding.
And what they say is you're evil and you should die.
That's what Joy Reed is saying.
That's what MSNBC is allow her to say.
If it was going the other way, that person would be off the air in five minutes.
And that's their point.
Me, I don't hate Rachel Maddow.
I think she's wrong.
I don't hate Joy Reed.
I think she's wrong.
I actually like her hair do.
Her hair is getting trumpish.
Well, she lives very economically.
Doesn't spend a lot on hair.
So the thing, and you know what?
There's people that are on CNN.
I think they're wrong and they annoy me.
Do they annoy me?
Yeah.
Do they frustrate me?
Yeah.
But I don't want them dead.
I don't want something bad to happen to them.
I want them to come to understand why I understand what I understand.
But they, they yell, they name call.
They started cancel culture.
Not us.
Not the conservatives.
But here's the thing.
Stock out.
But you would think MSNBC would get the, like, why, why aren't they, they're losing money.
They're they're getting pay cuts.
Rachel Maddow went from 25 million to what, 20 million, which I cannot, that, that should just prove to people.
And it may not be over, by the way.
That negotiation may not stop at 20.
Oh, yeah, it might be a little, but, but think about what that says.
She gets paid.
She was getting paid $25 million.
That's how important their BS propaganda of hate and divisiveness.
That's how much they have to pay her.
But you would think MSNBC would get the picture.
You're a businessman.
So are you.
Wouldn't you guys at this point change the tune?
We're losing money.
We're losing viewers.
Enough is enough.
They just can't help us.
You know who she is?
You know what MSNBC is?
You know those violin guys on the Titanic?
The ship is going down.
We're like, no, no, no.
We're going to just keep on playing the music.
They have to change.
Ginny, the adults that own the company have changed her tune.
She's not.
No, They're cutting the salaries.
Those people are not attracting new viewers and they're for sale.
So the owners have said, you know what?
This isn't working.
We're cutting everybody's salary and they're for sale.
Yeah, I'll just go real quick.
Again, it's the same thing I said before.
It's just victim mentality.
It's so hard to look in the mirror and just be like, we got to do better.
It's just so easier to be like, it's them.
It's them.
It's them.
The reality is one side are creators and builders and provide supply.
The other side are takers, destroyers, and they just make demands.
And I truly, and here's my point.
There's no fixing Joy Reed.
But what can be fixed are the people that watch Joy Reid and be like, time for me to turn the channel.
Time for me to realize, wow, I've been watching this day in and day out, night in, night out for five years, 10 years, 20 years.
Let me go flip to the channel and watch something different as to why America voted for this sexist, racist Hitler.
Basically, identify what the other side won and your side lost.
And you'll find the answer.
Well, let me read this next door here to you.
Caitlin Clark is time athlete of the year, 22 years old.
She had a record-breaking season with the Indiana fever in the WNBA.
She shattered six rookie records for points and assists, four franchise records, and multiple all-time NBA records, including the most assists in a single game 19.
Reflecting on her impact, she stated, I've been able to captivate so many people that have never watched women's sports and then turn them into fans.
Before joining the WNBA, Clark became the highest scorer in college basketball history at Iowa, drawing a staggering 18.9 million viewers for March Madness finale.
And again, South Carolina, second most watched woman sporting event in the U.S. history, Times, Sean Gregory wrote, good luck naming another player who altered the trajectory of the entire sports team within five months on the job.
And Caitlin Clark responds with the following.
Adam, I'm going to come to you first.
She says, acknowledged her privilege as a white person in a league built on the contributions of black players.
In her time interview, she stated, I want to say I've earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege.
The more we can elevate black women, that's going to be a beautiful thing.
She also credited black basketball icons like Lisa Leslie, Maya Moore, for paving the way for her success during an appearance on SNL.
Despite her unprecedented accomplishments, including all the records that she had, so rookie season, criticism arose over her popularity.
Golden State, North South Vietnam, has suggested that her stardom reflects the great white hope syndrome.
Okay, it's what they called her.
And while the three-time MVP AJ Wilson claimed Clark's race was a huge contributor to her popularity, it doesn't matter what we all do as black women.
We're still going to be swept underneath the rug.
Adam, I'm going to come to you first.
Look, we had this conversation, I don't know, three months ago, six months ago, during the WNBA season.
And I was like, yeah, I don't give a shit.
She's being catapulted to this amazing star.
By the way, you know how many championships she won in college?
Zero.
She's 0 for 2.
She didn't win.
Is she a good player?
Sure.
The WNBA is a zombie company that loses money here and in yard.
I actually have good news.
They were projected to lose $50 million this year.
But because of Caitlin Clark and all her great success, they only lost $40 million.
I mean, hey.
Amazing.
Great job, Caitlin.
Thank you.
So there it is.
They lost $40 million.
Name me a company that continually loses money.
Let's give her a trophy because we only lost $10 million less than we expected.
It's an absolute joke.
It's absolutely absurd.
Will she be a great WNBA player?
Sure.
I don't give a shit.
If I actually want to see her actually warn her merit, put her in the NBA.
Have her play against Steph Curry.
Have her play against LeBron.
Have her play against Kevin Durant.
Have her play against the greatest players in the world.
Then show me what she does.
The WNBA is a zombie company that is subsidized by who?
Lesbians.
The NBA.
Yes, it is, I think, 70% lesbian lesbian.
Your thoughts.
But that's all.
But by the way, let me just address the racist thing right now because that's part of it.
I just have to say that.
Okay, the whole notion that she's just been given white privilege.
Really?
Okay.
Tell that to the greatest black female athletes of all time.
Tell that to Serena Williams, the greatest female tennis player of all time.
Tell that to Flojo or Jackie Joyner-Kersey, the greatest track and field athletes all time.
Tell that to Lisa Leslie or Diana Taurasi, the WNBA players' greatest players of all time.
Tell it to the greatest gymnast of all time, Simone Biles.
It's absolute ridiculous.
And she fell for it.
She fell for the DEI LGBT thing rather than MEI.
She deserved where she was at because she was a good player.
But I have one suggestion for you, Caitlin.
You're making, I think, I don't know what sponsors are ridiculous.
She makes, I don't know, maybe 150 grand, 250 grand.
She makes 24 million, 28 million from her Nike deal.
Go donate that to the rest of your homegirls out there.
If you actually want to change the narrative, go donate all your money, Caitlin.
I'll take you one more.
What is LeBron Chains' salary this year?
I think it's about 50 million bucks.
Exactly.
So think of the WNBA.
They run the whole thing all year long and they end up with a $40 million loss.
Let's just call it what it is, a cost.
For the cost of less than one LeBron James, they can run this massive diverse DEI program.
The NBA can called the WNBA.
And that's the point.
They're trying to elevate women's sports.
They're trying to do it.
And they see it as a marketing cost, Adam.
It's a marketing cost.
Because net net, guys, we're going to lose $40,000, $50 million on this.
You know what?
Guess what?
You know, we'll keep trying.
We'll keep doing it.
She just lost.
Let me explain something to you.
I was never going to watch a game, but if there was ever a chance that I was, it's all gone.
Because you know what?
Caitlin, you didn't make it to the WNBA because of the color of your skin.
You played because you worked your ass off.
Hours in the gym, you know, sweat, sacrifice, and everything.
Not some imaginary head start that you got.
Okay.
Let's be honest with each other.
If this was a white pilot, it was a thing, every broke-ass white person in middle America would be dunking on all of us.
I think somebody, Adam, she didn't change it.
Somebody talked to her.
Remember all the girls that were just all talking shit about her from the beginning?
This was a tune change because that's how they roll.
That's the most that WNBA is woke as shit.
The NBA is woke as shit.
And they had to tell her, you better change your thing or we're not going to get behind you 100%.
And she did.
She bowed down.
And that's exactly what happened.
And I'll never, I would have bought a jersey.
Done.
What?
You actually, what jersey would you have bought?
Clark.
I would never have.
You know how I know you're gay, Vinny?
Yeah.
That's how.
I think it's very clever and it's an evil plot on Caitlin Clark's.
What?
I think she's trying to play nice and say some things, loosen up the defense and break her own records next year.
Oh, that's stop.
That's strategic.
Tom Tribune.
That's become a winner.
That guy won the World Series.
Here's what I'll say.
I just got a couple of thoughts here and then we'll wrap up because we got certain things we got to do.
So, you know, I actually do want to see WNBA succeed, you know, because there's nothing wrong with girls competing with girls.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I actually like it.
I think it's great if that's when you have four kids, they all have different dreams.
All you care about as a parent is, hey, what's your dream kid?
Let me help you get to it, right?
And I'd love if Brooklyn or Senna, they're like, hey, Daddy, I want to be a basketball player.
So, you know, Saturday, Sunday, I would send her.
She's shooting baskets and we go back and forth to record that she's made six shots in a row.
And it's a cool little moment that we have together.
I enjoy it.
Does she like playing basketball?
No.
We just do it as a form of exercise that we have.
So I don't mind this winning.
I actually want to see WNBA do well.
But what she just did is exactly why I haven't watched a minute of an NBA game this year.
I'm done.
I'm unattracted.
When NBA did the BLM thing and all this stuff in their NBA field said BLM, BLM, BLM, and they were bitching about everything that's going on and DeSantis is a bad guy, yet you did your NBA playoffs in Orlando, where it's the only state that would allow you to do it.
And then you want to bitch about bad policies of Florida.
You came to Florida.
I was done with the NBA.
LeBron James destroyed a great game.
And a lot of people can say stuff about him.
I'm just, I still put him as a second greatest.
I was hoping Caitlin would stay and say, look, I respect everybody.
I've earned to be here.
I've worked very hard.
But to go to the victimhood mentality place, so disappointing, so unattractive that I couldn't even sit there and have my kids look up to her as a hero.
That's the part.
I want to find a kid for my daughters to look up to.
We don't agree with victimhood mentality when you put, because we're Middle Eastern.
Can you imagine?
It's like, oh, we don't have white privilege.
Their daddy is as Middle Eastern as it gets.
We don't believe in that stuff.
My dad was a cashier at a 99 cent store in Inglewood.
The man never complained about hard work.
He's 82 years old, about to turn 83.
Good luck hearing this guy completely complain about his health and the pain and all this stuff that he has.
We don't have any kind of privilege about white people have it over us.
I've never felt it that way before.
I've never felt it that way with, well, this community is this.
That community is this.
This community is this.
What an unattractive acceptance speech.
What an unattractive acceptance speech by a 22-year-old that's being fed all this stuff.
Such a big turnoff.
I'm so disappointed.
I was wanting to take my girls to a Indiana fever game this year, court side, to watch her play.
I'm done.
I'm so upset and disappointed with this.
You and me both.
Why can't you just not make a comment like that?
Just play the game.
You're playing against you.
WNBA, would you like conservatives to watch the game?
Of course they would.
Would you like capitalists to watch the game?
Would you like libertarians to watch the game?
Would you like independents or would you like Republicans to watch the game?
You don't want them to watch the game and you want to keep using it?
No problem.
Go ahead.
Just have your liberal audience watching WNBA.
Go ahead.
Do your thing.
Not interested.
DBD, I'm happy that you finally came to the good side.
No, it's not the point.
Your point when you were saying you and I, our debate was that the WNBA doesn't have a shot at being profitable.
You know, when you say 50 million to 40 million to this, the biggest, for many years, Amazon was criticized because they weren't making profits.
And everybody is like, listen, if you're not comfortable with this, don't buy our stock.
Don't expect dividends for years.
But if you're thinking long term, you're eventually going to make a lot of money.
He made people a lot of money.
In an interview last week, he said something very interesting.
The guy says, how does it feel having a net worth of $200 billion?
He said, I actually don't look at it that way.
He says, how do you look at it?
He says, well, Amazon is worth roughly $2.4 trillion.
He says, yeah.
He says, I look at it as I've helped create $2.2 trillion of wealth for other people.
That's the milestone I celebrate.
So I hope these guys figured out.
I want businesses to do well.
Every time a business goes out of business, I don't like it.
But I cannot stand to the core when we hear these messages about victimhood.
It's so unattractive.
It's so annoying.
And a parent like myself doesn't want to applaud someone like that.
Right now, we had a meeting this week about, you know, hey, Pat, what's the next book you want to write?
Next book I want to write the next, you know, two to four years.
We're looking at what it is.
It takes a lot of time every time we go through this.
You know, it's either something to do with business, but a lot of people are asking about fatherhood.
Here's the thing.
If I write a book on fatherhood, first chapter, you know what it's going to say?
Read this book at your own risk.
Don't look at me as a great father.
We'll know if I'm a good father or not in 40 years.
But if you want to apply, this is how I raise my kids.
You want to do it?
Great.
You don't.
I totally get it.
But it's such an unattractive thing.
It's just not attractive.
10 seconds.
Listen to this audience at your own risk.
The WNBA will never succeed.
It's never going to make money.
It is a zombie organization.
It does not have mass market appeal or provide value like Amazon and Jeff Bezos did.
There's limited interest.
Sports fans, 80% of sports fans are men.
Zero interest in the WNBA.
It's a lesbian league that they're trying to shove down our throats.
We have no interest.
Well, Adam, it's very hard to.
The proof's in the pushback.
No, it's not.
No, no.
No, no.
Wait a minute.
Isolate concerns.
It's all a shit show.
None of it is worth it.
You don't get 18.9 million viewers in a college championship game.
That's more than the NBA finals.
Yeah, but I agree with you.
I agree.
You know why this Caitlin Clark?
You know why it goes back to the business?
You know why the reason you get it?
She's going to be in the WNBA.
You know why you get it?
You know why you get it?
It's because the world is obsessed with competition.
Reese against Caitlin, all that stuff.
They love competition.
No.
Manufacturers.
For me, she screwed up.
Manufactured.
Fraudulently.
Better.
Caitlin's comments just got me to have this much interest in what's going to happen in this sport.
I'm out.
It's peaked.
You know how they say peaked?
No.
WNBA college.
Keep going back to make yourself feel like it's two different stories.
She effed up because she could have brought a new audience to the WNBA, but she effed up because she caved.
And the people in WNBA, the executive team, thinks they did the right thing.
They just effed up.
They had a half of the population.
You know what a CMO should have done?
Should have been like, hey, please say what you say.
Try to say something to the American.
I love America.
Greatest country in the world.
That's all you have to say.
Oh, wow.
Okay, good.
She loves the country.
She loves America.
I'm willing to support.
You want to say, yeah, but I have white privilege?
Dude, we're out.
So you just lost that point.
I see exactly what you're saying, how you want to segment different things.
In my opinion, it's all baked in the cake.
I got you.
It's all baked in the cake, and this is why this league will never succeed.
This is why this is why I want to recognize somebody.
Do you know when I said to you, we had a few of these hats left to order?
So shout out to Brian Crows from Michigan.
I ordered 21 of them.
21 hats.
21 of these for Christmas for his family.
And by the way, the first hundred orders, we're getting the new Future Looks Bride mugs that we just got that came in.
So again, Christmas, December 15th, we have all this Christmas gear.
This has got to be shipped.
They just came in.
A thousand of these are being shipped out here today.
But this badge goes.
And once it goes, we're not ordering again until next year.
So go place your order.
We will not sell these after Christmas.
They're out because the season is out.
So go place your order.
Put it as a gift for a loved one for Merry Christmas.
Anyways, Rob, do you have anything else tomorrow?
We don't have anything because tomorrow's business planning workshop.
No, next week, Oliver Stone, Tony Robbins, and two home team podcasts.