PBD - Patrick Bet-David - “Not One Muslim” - Dominik Tarczynski: Migration, Fight for Europe & Helping Trump

Aug. 21, 2024 - PBD - Patrick Bet-David

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“Not One Muslim” - Dominik Tarczynski: Migration, Fight for Europe & Helping Trump | Ep. 459

In this interview, Patrick Bet-David speaks with Dominik Tarczyński, a bold Polish Member of the European Parliament. They discuss Poland's firm stance on illegal immigration and its role as a bastion of safety and tradition in Europe. Tarczyński shares his views on the global influence of U.S. politics, his support for Donald Trump, and the challenges Europe faces from radical Islam and leftist ideologies. ---- 🎟️ Join the Minnect League Championships for your chance to meet Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson at The Vault 2024: https://bit.ly/4aMAar8 🇺🇸 Purchase the VT Team USA Gear! Available now at VTMerch.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4cwKbJp 🏦 Purchase tickets to The Vault Conference 2024 featuring Patrick Bet-David, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Nick Saban & more: ⁠https://bit.ly/3WQYZN7 📱Connect one-on-one with the right expert for you on Minnect: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3T0AX15 📕 Purchase PBD's Book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ST1rS8 👔 Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3X8s7kq 📰 Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/4duVS4u 🎓 Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/4dpzyJE 💬 Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @vtsoscast @ValuetainmentComedy @bizdocpodcast @theunusualsuspectspodcast 📺 Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL 🎙️ Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms: https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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	You are the first one I'm I'm speaking about it publicly so maybe someone would hear it in European Parliament fix it you're one of the lowest Muslim population countries in Europe.
	Why is that?
	Muslims hate us and they do not even hide it.
	Said that they will take over this country by the numbers of children.
	They are making babies.
	You're not.
	Not even one illegal will come to Poland.
	Never.
	I said that not even one Muslim will come to Poland and they called me Islamophobia obviously not every Muslim is a terrorist but most of the terrorists are Muslims and that is a fact.
	We can use life bullets now.
	So if you want to come to Poland you will be killed.
	Whatever happens in America six months later we have it in Europe.
	If the wokness will continue in America it will spread around the world.
	The world needs Trump because we need normality.
	If you do not know your history you will not build your future.
	70 years of communism that was so unbearable and now we are leaders because we know what it means to lose your freedom.
	If politicians will not be brave to stop this madness nothing will change.
	So what we should do is to fight for European Union, make it great again, make it Christian again and not let them take by Hijra our land.
	Today I'm excited to sit down with Polish member of parliament Dominik Tarczynski.
	We dive deep into what he calls the fight for normality, why Tarczynski believes the world needs Trump now more than ever and the chilling warning that if America is lost, Europe is next.
	We talk campaign trail insights, the fears gripping politicians and the stark differences between American and European Congresses.
	Plus we get into his unfiltered thoughts on the war in Ukraine, Soros, and why politicians need to miss this episode.
	Enjoy.
	Did you ever think you would make it?
	I know this life meant for me.
	Why would you bet on Goliath when we got beta?
	Value payment, giving values contagious.
	This world of entrepreneurs, we can't no value to hate it.
	I run homie, look what I become.
	I'm the one.
	So, you know, we interview a lot of interesting people that come on here, but there's every once in a while there's someone that I'm pursuing to interview where I'm like, I want to sit down with this guy.
	And normally a lot of the guys we talk to, they could be from here, from all over the world.
	This one flew in from Poland.
	So why would we talk to somebody from Poland?
	For many of you that watch him, you're like, this guy must be the president or the prime minister of Poland.
	And because he has that kind of swagger and conviction and confidence, and you just love his fire when he talks.
	I'm sure you've seen the clip.
	If you haven't, I'm going to show it to you here in a minute.
	He's a two-time Polish parliament.
	He just became the second term of the European Parliament.
	The guy's got very, very strong convictions.
	And we're going to talk about a lot of different things, lots of different things.
	That being said, Dominik Tarczynski, it's great to have you on the podcast.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much, Patrick.
	Very good pronunciation.
	It's not easy to pronounce Polish names.
	My mother's from Baku.
	Oh, there you go.
	My dad is a Syrian.
	I lived in Iran, so I speak five languages.
	So you have to learn all these different things that we talk about.
	Thank you for having me.
	No, it's great to have you on.
	And, you know, first of all, let me just start off for the audience to know how you write love letters.
	This is a love letter you wrote to the president of EU.
	For some of you guys, maybe your husband writes you a love letter.
	Maybe your boyfriend writes you a love letter.
	Maybe your spouse writes, maybe parents, something like that.
	This is how he writes a love letter.
	Listen to this.
	It's poetic.
	So to the president of EU, Mr. President, dear leftist, dear so-called rule of law lovers, it's been 365 days since the Qatar Gate exploded.
	And what have you done?
	Nothing.
	What have you done about the vaccination scandal in European Commission?
	Nothing.
	Oh, sorry.
	You've done a lot.
	You've been attacking Polish government for eight years.
	For eight years, you try to lecture us.
	You try to lecture us about the rule of law.
	Rule of what?
	Rule of corruption?
	That's what it is.
	It's your people who were arrested.
	You are trying to lecture Mr. Trump, Mr. Bolsonaro, Mr. Millay.
	You're trying to lecture the whole world, conservative world about the rule of law.
	And your people are arrested for corruption.
	You have no right to lecture us.
	You have no right to tell us, telling us what the democracy is.
	You have no right to tell me what the rule of law is.
	This is why I promised we're going to fight your leftism ideology until the final victory.
	So help me, God.
	This doesn't sound like a two-term Polish parliament.
	This doesn't sound like a two-term European parliament.
	This sounds like the future PM president of Poland.
	Is that at all in the plans?
	You're starting on.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Every politician has ambition to become a president.
	If I wouldn't have these ambitions, I wouldn't be a good politician.
	We do have elections next year.
	Our political party did not make any decisions yet.
	So we'll see.
	If there is a need, I will run.
	But again, there is no decision yet.
	We have to do a proper survey.
	We have to really look for the answers what people want, what people need.
	So I might run.
	Yeah, that's the answer.
	But there is no decision yet.
	Okay.
	Now, would you, is it a you choose to run or is it, hey, let's have him run?
	How does it work in Poland?
	In Poland, well, the system in Europe, in Poland is completely different than in America, right?
	In America, you have primaries, you have decision of the Democrats or Republicans.
	And in our system, it's different.
	We have, let's say, a board of six or ten people who are in charge of our political party.
	We are trying to find the best candidate.
	Then there is a common decision.
	First of all, do you want to run?
	If you want to run, if you're ready to fight, do it.
	So our CEO, let's say, Mr. Kaczynski, he's in charge of our political party and he will make a decision.
	Obviously, you can run as an independent.
	Got it.
	But it's not a good choice.
	So our election is next year.
	But again, we don't know yet who is the best.
	I'm only 45 at the moment, so I've got time.
	You're a young man.
	I am.
	March 79, right?
	You're March 79.
	Sooner or later, I'd like to fight leftism as a president, but we'll see.
	It doesn't have to be.
	So tell me, what's your, you know, you're saying eight years.
	By the way, some stats.
	I looked at the stats on what's happened.
	The one thing, Kelly, maybe if you want to even bring up this clip and we can start off with this clip.
	But when I look at the stats of Poland, in 2022, Poland reported largest numbers of refusal of entry among EU countries, 23,330 refusals.
	Border crossing since 21, Polish border guards have stopped nearly 100,000 attempts by migrants to illegally cross into Poland from Belarus.
	Okay, that's interesting to look at that.
	When you go to the next number that I have here, homicide rate, Poland has one of the lowest, if not the lowest homicide rate, the lowest homicide rate in Europe.
	0.7 out of per 100,000 inhabitants in 2022.
	The lowest rapes, the same with the rapes, the lowest in Europe.
	This is very important to know.
	I think the world wants to know how.
	So the lowest rapes, the lowest homicide, in 2022, there were 491,000 recorded criminal offenses, a downward trend from 99 that used to be over 1 million.
	Correct.
	So how did you do it?
	People want to know.
	And then Poland ranks favorably in terms of public safety in the 2022 Global Peace Index.
	And the lowest unemployment, the highest GBT after COVID.
	That's official data from Eurostat.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	The lowest unemployment in the European Union, the highest GBT after COVID, one of the lowest public debts.
	That's official data from Eurostat.
	How?
	Well, first of all, safety.
	I was very, very straight about our policy.
	As you know, zero, zero, zero illegal migrants.
	That was our government's policy for eight years.
	Zero means not even one.
	Not even one if it's illegal.
	If you want to come to Poland, that was very straight.
	If you want to come to Poland, you can come.
	We are not North Korea.
	You can come and visit.
	You can come and work.
	You can be legally.
	So you have to prove who you are.
	You have to submit your documents.
	You have to ask for a visa.
	Then you will have permission to stay for three or six months or a year or whatever.
	And that's fine.
	If you pay taxes, if you want to contribute to our society, we don't mind.
	But it's up to us if we want you.
	It's not up to illegals.
	And that is why when you see Sweden, Germany, France, and others, there is such a huge difference that when I'm coming back, when I'm back home after a week in Brussels, because we European parliamentarians are in Brussels a whole week, so I'm coming, I'm going back home for weekends.
	I just want to kiss the land, my homeland.
	It's so beautiful.
	And I'm not saying that because I'm Polish, that's obvious, but because of this data, like you want to just breathe.
	It's clean.
	It's safe.
	It's normal.
	That's why I'm trying to say that Poland is the last stronghold of Christianity and normality in Europe.
	I'm proud of that.
	Over a thousand years of history, our kings, John Paul II, all of these big names, not many people know that Copernicus was Polish.
	John Paul II obviously was Polish.
	Chopin was Polish.
	Then King Sobieski, who stopped Muslims in Vienna, he was Polish.
	He saved Europe.
	So we contributed, we gave the world so many things, so many great people that I'm proud to be Polish.
	And when I'm back at home for a weekend, I feel like Poland is a 40 million nation which is responsible for Christian Europe as a continent.
	I mean, when we're discussing this woke ideology, when we fight leftism in European parliament, we're trying to say, okay, we have to go back to the roots, Roman law, Greek philosophy, Christianity, not only as a religion, but also as an art, culture, the way of living, the mentality.
	There's such a big difference between the rest of the world.
	And I love our continent and I want to fight for it.
	Because if we will not be very active, Christian Europe is gone.
	And it's the same thing.
	That's what I said yesterday in Mr. Trump's international golf in New Jersey club.
	We had a meeting yesterday, last night.
	Bedminster?
	Yes.
	And we had this Catholics for Trump meeting.
	Mr. President, he was there playing golf, relaxing.
	Did you play with them as well?
	I didn't have time.
	The agenda was the meeting was very important because we had 300 people who represent different organizations and they are ready to fight in November here.
	It's so important what is going to happen in America because this is not only about Trump and Harris.
	This is not about Republicans and Democrats.
	It's not about America only.
	If Donald Trump wins, we have a chance to back to normality.
	To normality, basically.
	If the wokeness will continue in America, it will spread around the world.
	Because what I see in Europe, whatever happens in America, six months later, we have it in Europe.
	Right?
	Guys, in addresses, wokeness in full scale, gender ideology and all this.
	It started somewhere in here, and six months later, we had it in Europe.
	So whatever happens in here, it's going to happen in Europe and in different parts of the world.
	So we need Trump.
	The world needs Trump because we need normality.
	Our Western civilization will be destroyed if he's not going to win.
	I believe he's going to win.
	That's why I'm here.
	The reason I came here, obviously, is because of your invitation.
	Thank you again.
	But I came here to join his team and campaign with the Polish community with the Poles who will vote in November.
	So I'm going to spend 12 weeks left.
	I'm going to spend some time here and I'm going to work hard to help Mr. Trump.
	You're here for the next 12 weeks?
	Yes, you're going to be in the States, Campaign.
	Yes, campaigning.
	I'm going to start with Pennsylvania.
	Got it.
	Then Michigan and then Chicago.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And they called you to say, would you be willing to come and campaign?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I had a conversation with Ed Martin, who is responsible, who is in charge of Catholics for Trump.
	And we decided that we're going to start open meetings in the parishes and then diocese.
	What a great move.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We need it.
	We need it.
	Because when I see what might happen if she will be elected, I'm trying to remember about my kids, grandkids, and about the fight my grandpa was leading against communism.
	That's my very personal story about my grandpa father.
	As you know, Second World War ended in 1945.
	For Poland, this war ended with the tragedy of communists taking over Poland.
	So Germany lost, Soviets took over half of Europe.
	Poland was under the Russian occupation.
	And my grandpa decided that he's not gonna finish his fight in 1945.
	So he fleed to the forest, created an army, underground army, and he fought until his colleagues fought until 1969.
	Not many people know it was 200,000 people, army, underground army, fighting communists.
	So your grandfather left?
	He was in charge.
	He was in charge of one of the branches of the army in eastern Poland.
	So my family, I grew up in the environment when we hate communists for what they have done to us.
	We love freedom.
	And I know that if I will not be very active now in America, Europe will be lost again.
	Europe will be lost.
	America will be lost.
	And then Europe will be lost.
	So there is a very personal, very deep meaning for me to be here.
	It's not only politics.
	It's called politics for me, but for me, it's the history of my country, history of my family, and the future of my family and my country.
	So I see this as a duty to be here, to do whatever I can to help Donald Trump.
	Because again, it's not about politics.
	It's about our life.
	It's about the way we want to live.
	And we want to prepare the world for the next generations.
	It might sound big, but it is big.
	That's how I see things.
	So that is the reason I'm here.
	Dominic, you know, a lot of times people say, well, when I go to Europe, like Tom was in Austria at the Formula One race.
	And he says, him and Leo.
	And he said, when we were there, they took their families and they love Formula One.
	It's like, look, when we're talking to everybody, hey, we know you're from the podcast.
	We need Trump to win.
	Why do you need Trump to win, man?
	The world's a safer place when you're here.
	That's a secondhand story.
	Someone's telling you and then they share with other people.
	This is what people told me in Australia.
	Austria.
	This is what people told me in Europe.
	This is what they told me here.
	But you're direct contact.
	You're in it.
	You deal with EU.
	You deal with Poland.
	You deal with your neighbors.
	You're one country in between you and Russia.
	So you're dealing directly with what's going on, right?
	And in a minute, I'll be asking you about Nord Stream, Putin, all these other things, NATO.
	I've got a lot of questions for you.
	This may be a two and a half hour conversation with you.
	But why is it what happens in America so important?
	What happens here?
	Because that bleeds to the rest of the world.
	I'll give you an example.
	Mr. Trump, as a president, is having a speech in UN before Ukraine was attacked.
	And he's directly speaking to German delegation.
	And he said, that's very famous speech from Mr. Trump.
	He said, do not cooperate with Russia.
	Do not take a gas from Russia because you will become dependent.
	You will be dependent on Russian oil and gas.
	Germans were laughing.
	They were sitting there, you know, like that and laughing at Mr. Trump.
	You know what happened six months later?
	They called Poland and they asked us to share gas with them because they had a problem with energy because Nord Stream was destroyed.
	Russia was on sanctions and they couldn't cope without help from Poland.
	And what I mean by this example is he is right about not only about energy, he is right about geopolitical situation.
	He knows history.
	His visit in Poland, when he was describing Polish history, was amazing.
	The accents of different parts of Polish history was amazing.
	So he knows what Russia can do.
	Very famous, very famous words from Polish.
	Like Polish, a president who, who was killed in Smolinsk Russia, plane crash.
	He said before he was killed because I believe he was killed uh, he said in Georgia, when Georgia was attacked by Russia, he went there.
	And he says, now Georgia, next Ukraine, then Baltic states and then maybe Poland.
	Russia never changed throughout history 16th, 17th century, you have to remember, Poland was not on the map for 123 years because of the partitions and obviously the authors of the partitions, mainly Germany and Russia, never changed.
	We had 1410.
	In 1410 we had a very famous fight Battle War Uh, between between Germany.
	That was 15th century.
	Then 16th century, 17th century, every century was a was aggression partitions and Poland did not exist for 123 years.
	Then in 1918 we gained our independence back and then in 1939 they attacked as well.
	Not many people knows that the war started on 1st of september 1939 and 16 days later started by German attack on Poland and then, 16 days later, Russia attacked Poland from the east.
	Everyone, you know, thinks that Second World War was just Germany.
	No, it wasn't.
	It started with Germany on the first Pact.
	Ribbonthrop, Morotov was a deal between Russia and Germany and they attacked Poland from West and from the east, when they had a problem Hitler with Stalin.
	When Stalin decided that okay, i'm gonna take over Germany.
	Now he took over Poland in the same way as Germans.
	So we experienced so much pain, so much pain, 123 years of non-existence, six million poles killed during the war, 70 years of communism.
	That was so unbearable for, for the nation.
	And now we are, by the numbers, we are leaders because we know what it means to lose your freedom, to lose sovereignty, to be in a jail as a, as a nation, for hundreds of years.
	So we cherish our freedom, we fight for it.
	We do understand what it means not to be free.
	So when someone is asking me there was a, there was a funny situation, because one of my colleagues, one of the members of the of the parliament said, asked me, what do you do?
	What's your plan for the vacation?
	I said i'm going to work, i'm going to campaigning in in Us for Trump.
	And he said, but they do not elect you.
	Why would you go there?
	They, the America, do not vote for you.
	They are not.
	What would you?
	Why would you do that?
	And I, and I saw him.
	I saw the man who do not understand, who treats his position, his post, as a work and that's it.
	He's not from my party by So, so, so, uh, so, the main difference between us, Republicans, conservatives in Europe, and Democrats, leftists, they don't care.
	They really don't care.
	They are head on it.
	They want them to be happy today.
	They don't think about next generations.
	They don't think what's going to happen in 20, 30, or 50 years.
	I know my history, as John Paul II said, if you do not know your history, you will not build your future.
	So, I do know what it means from my family, from the history of my country.
	I love my country.
	I love peace.
	I love the Christian way of thinking and living.
	I want to fight and I want to fight for it.
	I do want to fight for it because I do believe that this is important.
	I think that we were created for something more than eat, sleep, and relax.
	Let's say we were created for bigger things.
	I want to live something after my life.
	I want to be proud when I'm please God, 70 or 80, that I've done what I was called by God to do.
	I do believe that everyone has a talent, and this talent needs to be used in a proper way.
	My way of thinking was because I'm a lawyer by the education.
	Canaan law, not just regular kind of law.
	No, no, regular, regular law.
	I do my PhD on international law.
	Did you also study canon law?
	No, that was the university, the branch of the university when I studied it.
	But I do my PhD on international law at the moment.
	I do my PhD on genocide.
	So I'll tell you more about it later because this is very PhD on genocide.
	Yes, but I decided to become a lawyer because, in my naive imagination, I thought that I will be able to become a prosecutor and put all the communists to jail.
	And then I found out that the post-communist system in Poland is created by the communists also, also in the judiciary system.
	So then I decided, okay, so if I cannot be a prosecutor, because they are politically dependent on post-communists, that was early 2000s.
	I said, okay, so I have to be above them in some way.
	So, okay, so I'll become a politician.
	I'm going to create reality rather than fight it.
	So I decided that I'm going to be a politician, but I served two terms in the Polish parliament and then I was elected to the European Parliament.
	If you don't mind, I would describe the difference between America and the greatest law because in America you've got Congress and you've got Senate.
	In Poland is the same.
	We've got Polish same, which is Congress, let's say, and Senate and then President, right?
	So every country in the European Union has a similar system.
	We have 27 countries in the European Union.
	And from every country, we have delegates to the European Parliament.
	It's over 700 members of European Parliament, depending on how big the country is, the population, the representatives, the delegations are different.
	So I was elected twice to the Polish parliament, like I would say for you, it's a state kind of thing, and then elected to European.
	And I was really shocked by ignorance, by lack of common sense in European Parliament where Germans are leading.
	First of all, the whole problem with the biggest problem in my opinion, I mean, illegal migration, started in 2015.
	It started when German economy was booming.
	They needed cheap labor, basically.
	They were looking for cheap labor, so Angela Merkel decided, okay, so let's move people from Africa and other places in the world to Germany.
	They're going to work for less than Germans.
	We need hands to work.
	And then the campaign Wilkomen started.
	But they found out, Germans, very, very fast, that there's no engineers, there's no doctors, but there are rapes on the streets.
	So she says, okay, they don't want to work.
	So let's spread them around.
	Let's say that this is European responsibility and solidarity within the European Union.
	And we're going to say that we're going to solve this problem.
	She tried to push them to Poland.
	And we said, no.
	Not even one illegal will come to Poland ever.
	Never.
	I said that not even one Muslim will come to Poland.
	And they called me Islamophobe.
	Let me play this clip.
	Here's a question.
	You got it?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Go ahead, Kelly, if you can play it.
	How many refugees has Poland taken?
	Zero.
	And you're proud of that?
	If you are asking me about Muslims' illegal immigration, none, not even one, will come to Poland.
	Not even one if it's illegal.
	We took over 2 million Ukrainians who are working, who are peacefully in Poland.
	We will not receive even one Muslim because this is what we promised.
	But I asked not about illegal immigrants.
	I asked about refugees.
	And Jean-Claude Juncker, the Commission president, says that you're racist.
	You sound proud of the fact that you haven't taken any refugees.
	Of course, because this is what our people expecting from our government.
	That's number one.
	This is why our government was elected.
	This is why Poland is so safe.
	This is the reason why we had not even one terrorist attack.
	Look at the streets in Poland.
	And we can be called populists, nationalists, racists.
	I don't care.
	I care about my family and about my country.
	Now, I watched this and I searched the Kelly.
	If you can search this as well, so the audience can see it.
	What percentage of Poland is Muslim?
	Just search that.
	And if you can do it on Chrome, not on Apple, if you type in what percentage of Poland is Muslim, it would say 0.1%.
	You're one of the lowest Muslim population countries in Europe.
	Why is that?
	Well, first of all, I think the main reason is that we never agreed for illegal migration.
	That's number one.
	But we have Tatars in Poland, very beautiful Muslims who helped us to fight during the war, they never caused any problems.
	The problem started in 2015 when migration started from Muslim countries.
	That's why they called me Islamophobia.
	It has nothing to do with Islamophobia.
	This is just a fact that from 2015, millions coming to millions, not hundreds of thousands, millions coming to Europe were coming from Muslim countries.
	So that was a flat wave of Muslim illegal migrants.
	And we knew and we know that this is a hybrid war organized now, organized by Putin through Belarus.
	So If someone is asking me, how is it possible?
	It's very simple.
	We had the wall.
	That's number one.
	Mr. Trump was inspiration.
	Then very, very sad thing.
	The $1.9 billion wall with the Belarus, like 18 meters high.
	Can you pull this wall up that they built?
	That's right.
	So that was the first decision when the crisis started.
	Then, unfortunately, one of our soldiers was killed with a spear, one of illegals, and our parliament passed the law that we can use live bullets now.
	So if you want to come to Poland, you will be killed.
	I'd like to probably some of them will watch this interview.
	If you don't want to be killed, do not come to the Polish border.
	If you don't want to be pushed back, do not come to Polish border because we just passed the law that our soldiers, Coast Guard or whatever, they can use live bullets to kill.
	That is the difference.
	Because I can't see the difference between, let's say, Heathrow Airport, Miami International.
	Sure.
	When you're trying to cross the border without passport, what they would do?
	They would shoot you.
	If you would try to run through migration, right?
	The customs, they would shoot you.
	So what is the difference between Miami International, Heatrow, or any other place, airports, and the green border?
	Where they trying to go, they're trying to come through the forest.
	So now Polish forces services are allowed to use live bullets and kill.
	What country has taken on the most Muslims?
	The millions that have come in, what country took up the most?
	Is it UK or?
	UK is a different story.
	I would say Germany, Sweden.
	You have to remember there's no go zones in Sweden now.
	UK is different because of Brexit or UK is different because of the way you think it's different because first of all, because of the Brexit, but also you've got third and fourth generation of Muslims in England now.
	Problems, when you see, yeah, that's the data.
	When you see the history of Great Britain, it's a little bit different because you've got, as I said, third and fourth generation.
	But when we are talking about the Muslims coming from 2015, I would say Germany, France, Sweden, Italy, a little bit, but Germans, they have the biggest problem because Angela Merkel was inviting them.
	Refugees welcome.
	Obviously, they are not refugees.
	I'm trying to repeat it every single time.
	There is a legal difference between refugee, between term refugee and migrant.
	Refugee, by the international law, is the person who flees to the first safe country from the country of conflict.
	So like Eritrea, Somalia.
	It's not a neighboring country in Poland.
	You know what I mean?
	So they are migrants.
	And the worst part of it is that we know that Putin is using this illegals as a part of the Hebrid War.
	We had actually serious attack, war on our border.
	Like thousands of them attacked our service people, servicemen.
	So we had to react.
	We built the wall.
	And I think that the difference between our Polish conservative government and the rest of the world is that we do, then we talk.
	In many places, unfortunately, under Biden administration, the first question to Kamala was, did you go to the border?
	She says, did you?
	She says, oh, I didn't.
	I didn't go to Europe either.
	You know, the silly, stupid answers.
	So it is a serious threat.
	When you see data from Germany, there is a very special committee on the parks in Germany because you cannot go out after 10 o'clock because after 10 o'clock, there are so many rapes in the parks.
	They had a summit of police and other services.
	In Germany.
	In Germany, what to do to let girls go out after 10 o'clock.
	And when I'm trying to bring the data in the European Parliament, they are furious.
	They don't want to listen.
	But let me ask you, okay, so since 2015, Germany took on the most.
	If you pull up the statistic that I just sent you, Kelly, I sent you a link in text if you can pull it up.
	The statistic data says that projected number of Muslims by 2050 in German, and right now, in 2010 was 4%.
	They're saying by 2050, which is like 16 years from now, it's going to be around 20%.
	They're going to go from 4% to 20% is what statistics say.
	It's going to be more, but okay.
	Okay, so let's just say it's one out of five.
	Yeah.
	It's going to be 20%.
	How has that positively impacted Germany?
	How has that negatively impacted Germany?
	I can't see any positives.
	No positives.
	Like what?
	They don't pay taxes.
	They don't want to work.
	Most crimes committed percentage-wise, committed by illegal migrants, mainly Muslims.
	That's the data.
	So what kind of enrichment is this?
	I can't see any positives.
	They asked me, they still trying to picture me and call me Islamophob.
	If that would be non-believer, if that would be a Chinese community or Indian or any other, I would say the same by the data.
	The data is very, very, very straight.
	Most of the, okay, let's say 46% of all crimes committed in Sweden is committed by the Muslims under 18.
	Under 18.
	72%, that's Interior Minister published the data, committed in total by Muslims.
	How come?
	If they are 20% of the society, why the over 70% of crimes are committed by Muslims.
	So when you ask me about positives, I really can't see any.
	Why do you think, though?
	Why do you think that's happening?
	Is it because like when you in 1978, 79, when early 80s, late 70s, when Jimmy Carter was a president, he was going after, hey, human rights, you know, Cuba, you're doing this, you know, and all of a sudden he sends his 125 political prisoners.
	And, you know, that's where the movie Scarface, Tony Montana.
	Is it because they're not sending their best?
	Why do you think it is?
	Because they hate us.
	Who hates us?
	Muslims hate us and they do not even hide it.
	There is a very famous video of the guy on the streets in Germany who is having a conversation with the German guy and he was like, we are taking over this country.
	Your daughters will be our slaves.
	And we will take this country over by the number of children.
	You don't have a children?
	Who said this?
	One of the Muslim guys.
	I'll send you a question.
	Is this Canada?
	Because I've seen that.
	If it's Canada.
	Maybe it's Canada.
	But the way of thinking is the same.
	The mentality is the same because in Germany, one of the clerics said that they will take over this country by the numbers of children.
	So, if you have a plan which is called Hijra, right?
	Taking over the land by the numbers.
	I think it comes from mentality, from the way of, well, you see, in our Christian world, mercy, forgiveness is a very big part of our way of thinking.
	For them, the most important is revenge, war, and violence.
	That's what it is.
	I mean, I'm sorry to say that, but you know, all this calling for terror attacks, for the holy war, we don't have it in our mentality.
	We know that.
	But the problem is that politicians are scared to say that out loud.
	I'm not scared.
	We know the difference.
	The difference is that we are ready to forgive, we are ready to say sorry, we are merciful, we know that we commit sins and we are ready to say that we are weak.
	For them, the most important part of their life is holy war.
	This is what they do in many ways with a knife, with a sword, with the bombs.
	And it happens throughout the years.
	I'm not going to go centuries back, but we know what is happening.
	I was on Al Jazeera, they invited me to have an interview.
	And obviously, they asked me why I think that they are a threat.
	And obviously, the guy says that not every Muslim is a terrorist.
	Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but most of the terrorists are Muslim.
	It's a fact.
	So they're trying to reverse the situation and the meaning of the words and the data.
	Obviously, not every Muslim is a terrorist, but most of the terrorists are Muslims.
	And that is a fact.
	So what we need now in this world, what I believe that politicians need in this world is just honesty.
	Be honest.
	Say as it is.
	Do not be afraid.
	I have this impression that most of the politicians are afraid of open discussion, honest discussion.
	They are scared that they will be stigmatized by one or the other group.
	I don't care.
	I really don't.
	I know how it is.
	I speak with my neighbors and everyone is just terrified.
	What is happening now is a fear.
	Different kind of fears.
	COVID.
	They try to fear the whole world, lock us down.
	Terrorism.
	And then radical Islamists fear.
	Fear is present.
	So we have to free ourselves.
	We need politicians who do not afraid of calling things as they are.
	And I think we have to fight for normality, for the normal language.
	Look at these pictures and footages from Iran before the revolution.
	That was a beautiful country.
	Beautiful country.
	What happened?
	You know, what's happened in the 70s and 80s?
	They destroyed the beauty of this country.
	They just destroyed it.
	It wasn't ages ago.
	That was 70s.
	And look what is happening now.
	So when you ask me for the positives, maybe I'm an ignorant, but I can't see any.
	When I see the world, you know, September 11 and many, you know, terror attacks in London, then stabbings and rapes in Germany and in England now.
	Every single day, every single day, we have news in Europe that someone was stabbed, raped, killed by Muslims.
	And this is just a fact.
	And my problem is that clerics do not react.
	If you don't want people, if you don't want anyone to be Islamophobe, I'm not.
	It has nothing to do with religion.
	It's about data.
	React.
	You should condemn them.
	I can't see any condemnation.
	That is the problem that the Muslim world do not, the clerics do not react for so much pain, for so much hatred.
	And this is the problem that if that would happen in a Christian Catholic world, Pope would react, bishops would react, parishes and communities would condemn the violence.
	This is what normal world would do.
	I can't see any of this kind of steps in a Muslim world.
	That is my problem about it.
	So let me ask you this question.
	So right now, there's multiple angles we can go here.
	One is you're living in Europe.
	You're part of the EU.
	You said 27 of you guys, right?
	And in the EU with 700 members.
	You're one of the 700 members.
	You guys don't agree with each other, right?
	And there's a few of them that are like you.
	Who would you say are the most conservative ones?
	Would you say you, Hungary?
	Who else would you put on that list of countries and EU that you guys are aligned with?
	Well, we do have conservatives in every single country, but let's say from Poland is 20 of us, from Italy, 24.
	So every country, every country has a different out of 700.
	How many would you say are conservative?
	Really conservative?
	Yeah.
	100.
	Are you kidding me?
	Okay.
	So let's say 100 out of 700 are conservative.
	Let's rest our list.
	150.
	Okay.
	150 to 100 to 150 are conservatives.
	Okay.
	If you're part of the EU, you have 0.1% of your population that are Muslims.
	If the EU says, listen, you guys can't do this.
	You got to take some of these migrants to come to your country.
	They already did.
	They already said that.
	And then what do you do?
	I'm a politician.
	I mean, I would like to describe it with my finger, but I don't want to do it.
	We said, no, we're not going to do it.
	So they say, you're going to pay a penalty for not being in solidarity in our system.
	We said, we don't care.
	We're going to pay.
	So they can fine you.
	Yeah, they did.
	How much was the fine?
	That was about a million euros a day.
	A million euros a day.
	And you guys paid it?
	Yeah.
	So it was worth more for you to pay 365 million Euros a year than to allow more Muslims into your countries.
	Yes, because life has no value.
	Of course.
	We did.
	At what point would you say, what if they make it 10 million a day?
	That's 3.65 billion.
	We would pay.
	What if they pay you 100 million a day?
	They would find us a billion a day, we would still fight for our life because they think that's a very good point you made.
	Because they think the way of thinking from mainly from Germany is that they can buy you.
	They can find you.
	They can destroy you by money.
	But they don't understand that we have dignity, honor, history.
	And we went through so much that money is not the most important in our life.
	It's not our core.
	It is important.
	However, it is important for our economy.
	But you have to remember that if they would mess up with Poland, they would find Poland taxing their products.
	And we have the tools to fight back.
	What's your tool?
	Well, Great Britain left European Union.
	That's the point I was going to get to.
	So would there ever be- If they would do it, if they would put us in a situation when there is no choice, we would say, bye.
	And then you will pay taxes, you will pay for the transportation through Poland.
	You have to remember that our geographical position is very, very good.
	We are in the heart of Europe.
	So if you want to travel, if you want to have a transportation, because we are called Eastern Europeans.
	We are not Eastern Europeans.
	We are in the very center of Europe.
	When you show the map, you will see that Poland is heart of Europe, we call it.
	Can you zoom in?
	Can you zoom in?
	Yeah, there you go.
	So if they want to travel, if they want to have transportation, they would have to pay a lot.
	We can use, you see, that's the very, that's a very hard situation for us in history because on the east is Russia, on the west is Germany.
	So we paid a lot throughout the centuries because of that.
	But now is the time to fight back economically.
	So it is a very hot situation, of course, but it's not a waste of money.
	It's an investment.
	So there could be a possibility of just like a Brexit for there to be a poll exit.
	I'm not in favor of poll exit at the moment.
	Why is that?
	Because I think that European Union can be a value.
	It is my home.
	It is our project.
	It should be as it was in the beginning.
	You have to remember the fathers, founders of the European Union are about to be saints.
	Yes, the process of canonization is in progress.
	They wanted a Christian Europe.
	So what we have to do, we have to go back to the we have to go back to the roots.
	We have to fight for it.
	Obviously, we can just slam the door and leave, but you're going to leave your own home.
	I don't want Muslims to take over European Union.
	I don't want communists to take over European Union.
	This is my European Christian Union.
	If you Google founders of the European Union, Robert Schumann, one of them, canonization, beatification process, you will find the information that they are about to be saints.
	Wow, I see it.
	So what we should do is to fight for European Union, make it great again, make it Christian again, and not let them take by Hijra our land.
	Okay, so at the moment, obviously, if there is no way out, if there is no way out, obviously we're not going to be suicidal, we're going to leave.
	But at the moment, I believe that the project is worth to fight for it because it was created by the future saints.
	It means a lot.
	So we have to fight for it, just like for our own countries.
	We cannot just leave the room, slam the door because communists are in power for last five or ten years.
	You know, what is five or ten years in the history of a country with over a thousand years history?
	You have to look a bigger picture.
	Obviously, my emotions are like, I'm going to leave.
	I don't want to do, I don't want to have anything to do with them.
	That's the emotion.
	But then you sit, you think, you've got strategy.
	You are patient.
	You work, you fight, and you win.
	So that's a bigger picture.
	Obviously, if the situation is as bad as, I don't know, Sweden or anyone else, everything might happen.
	You know, we are a free nation, we do referendum, and the nation will decide.
	We're not going to be, you know, we're not going to be a martyr of political correctness that you have to be the part of this club.
	You know, the club is beautiful, but everyone should have the same duties, the same rights.
	It doesn't work this way.
	That is the problem.
	Okay.
	So do you see any progress with Germany or the EU taking on fewer immigrants coming in?
	Do you see progress happening there?
	Meaning, are they sitting there saying, you know what?
	Dominic, you make sense.
	Yeah, you know, the results you guys have in Europe, the lowest amount of crime, the lowest amount of rape, the lowest unemployment, right?
	You know, it's a place you guys, you're 76%.
	What's the percentage of Christianity in the Roman Catholic?
	71.3%.
	Your population is that.
	It used to be 87.6 in 2011.
	So you've dropped 16.3%, right?
	So Germany may say, yeah, you guys are doing great.
	Matter of fact, moving forward, we're all going to do that.
	But that's not happening.
	It's not happening because of their ego.
	They are very proud and they are still mentally somewhere between I'm the owner of this land.
	I'm in Europe.
	I'm in charge of it.
	I'm smarter than anyone else.
	They want to rule Europe.
	Eurozone, Poland keeps its own currency, Polish Zloty.
	We did not join Eurozone.
	Eurozone is in a very, very deep crisis.
	And they don't want to hear about any changes because they would have to admit that we were right.
	The unemployment, youth unemployment in Eurozone is about 28%.
	There is a speech of mine on the last session of the parliament because now it's a vacation time in the parliament.
	Parliament do not operate.
	But we had a final session.
	We had a final session just in the end of July.
	Teresa von Ursula von der Leyen was there and I had a speech.
	I gave her a data.
	I gave her questions.
	If you could Google it, I think the speech is somewhere there.
	She was smiling nervously.
	She was nervous, but never answered the questions because when you okay, one of the examples.
	As you know, one of the biggest political projects in European Parliament, in European politics, is so-called Green Deal, right?
	So they have a new God, ecological God, and they are reducing pollution in European Union by new taxes, this and that.
	I ask her how she wants to save this planet, not European Union, planet, if European Union is responsible for 7% of pollution of the world, and she wants to reduce pollution in Europe by 90%.
	How do you wanna, how do you wanna operate?
	How do you wanna?
	It's impossible to eliminate 90% of pollution.
	And they want us to pay for it.
	Obviously, mainly Germany, German companies are making money on windmills and other stuff because they are in the situation when their economy is just dropping so badly.
	And they have to find the way to make money on Europeans.
	So Germany, who is in charge of European Union, because this is true, we have 27 countries, but they are ruling with France mainly, all the biggest projects.
	They are trying to force us, first of all, to take migrants, to reduce pollution.
	And the way they do it is so ridiculous that we are against it.
	And the funny thing is, you would not believe that.
	The funny thing is that for the last four years, there is no hot water in European Parliament.
	What do you mean?
	There's no hot water because something was wrong with the pipes in the parliament.
	They cannot fix it for the last five years.
	Are you serious?
	I'm serious.
	Even there was a funny thing because Ursula von der Leyen, she's in charge of European Commission, as you know, she was doing these videos promoting washing hands during COVID.
	And there was a video of her washing her hands in the European Parliament, but nobody knew that this is a cold water because there's no hot water in the European Parliament.
	Hello, European Parliament, fix the pipes.
	It's a joke.
	It's a joke.
	Is that a well-known fact that there's no hot water in the European Parliament?
	Everyone, everyone, yeah, you go.
	Well, everyone who is using restroom in the European Parliament knows that there is no hot water.
	And I'm trying, you are the first one.
	I'm speaking about it publicly.
	So maybe someone would hear it in the European Parliament.
	Fix it.
	Fix the pipes and then fix the world.
	So go back to it.
	So you don't seem optimistic.
	I just looked at the countries ranking, you know, GDP-wise in Europe.
	And I think you guys are number six.
	Netherlands ahead of you.
	Then it's Spain.
	Then it's the top three.
	The ones that France, whatever.
	No.
	Germany.
	Yes.
	So it doesn't look like they have to look.
	Do they look at Poland like a, oh, you guys are just, you're the small little younger brother, just kind of stay in your lane and don't look, what do you guys think you are?
	We are the people that have all this history.
	Do they kind of look at your life?
	Of course.
	Of course, we call it Europe of two speeds or old union and new union.
	They still think that we are post-communist country, very poor country.
	And they seize us as a poorer, as a problem in many cases.
	Because the main problem, I think, it's not economy.
	It's not competition.
	It's mentality.
	Our Catholic society is very traditional.
	And the problem is that we are trying to promote Christian values in their political space.
	They don't like it because their conscience is painful.
	When you call things as they are, When you say that the man who is wearing a dress is sick and he needs help, it's not good.
	You shouldn't say that.
	And I'm very happy to say that.
	The man who wears a dress and he thinks that he's a woman, he needs help.
	He's sick.
	He needs help.
	We have to call it as it is.
	Come on, Patrick.
	You know that.
	What's their reaction when you say this?
	They hate it.
	They hate it.
	And do you say that to them?
	Of course.
	Do you say it from stage or privately?
	No, no, no.
	I do it in here, in your studio.
	I'll do it in stage.
	I do it whenever I want because this is true.
	How do you handle it in Poland?
	How is the LGBT?
	Because I read on the fact that you guys have cities where you send your, you have them.
	You have people that are part of LGBTQ, but they live together in certain areas.
	That's not true.
	How do you treat LGBTQ in Poland?
	Well, it's your choice.
	I mean, it's a free country.
	Again, as I said, we are not North Korea.
	You can live as you want.
	Do not come to the kids.
	Do not come to the kids.
	How do you prevent that?
	They are not allowed in schools, like in here.
	Like you've got teachers.
	Teachers, but I'm talking about the shows, kind of shows, right?
	Drug queens coming to schools.
	It's not allowed in Poland, basically.
	If you want to leave, if you're a man, if you want to leave as a woman, it's up to you.
	It's a free country.
	Do whatever you want.
	But do not come to our kids.
	Do not come to the educational system.
	We don't want it.
	But is there laws against it?
	Like I understand, you're saying do not come.
	Is there specific laws to say if you come, dot, dot, dot?
	No, no, no, no.
	There's no laws to limit it, but the boards in school are the ones who decide if drug queen is needed in school.
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	The whole walk ideology and the whole process of fighting the Christianity, because it's, you see, that's another thing.
	Nobody is ready to say this war of civilization is the war with Christianity.
	It's just a fact.
	Obviously, they're using different weapons, they're using different tools, but the main goal is to destroy Christianity.
	Look at the Olympics.
	Why the opening ceremony was not about Mohammed?
	Why Christianity, Catholicism, was attacked during the opening ceremony.
	Did you see that?
	Did you watch it?
	Of course I did.
	Why they always attack Christ?
	Always.
	In the movies, in the music, you know, they all wear crosses.
	They all just attack Christianity.
	And I keep asking this question, why the other religions are not attacked?
	It's always Christ.
	So this war is a war of civilization, and this war is a war between good and evil.
	And this war again, it is a war against our very basic truths and fundaments of our life and our existence on this planet.
	What's your position on who's pushing this agenda?
	I mean, you are close to where Davos is and, you know, World Economic Forum, and you got Klaus Schwab, and you got the globalists and all the agenda and all this stuff that's going on.
	And, you know, you got, I don't know if you follow the story, the community, the 300, the real people at the top.
	That's right.
	So I had a guy named Stephen Greer on, very interesting guy.
	And I said, you know, who is the most powerful people in the world?
	He says it's people you don't know.
	It's behind closed doors that they're very quiet, but they have a lot of power and they have influence.
	But who do you think is behind pushing an agenda accelerated the way it has the last four to eight years that logically it doesn't make sense?
	But so many people of power are sitting there endorsing it and saying, yeah, we should be doing this.
	Politically, politically communists, mental communists, spiritually Satanists.
	That's what I think, what is happening, because most of these people, in my opinion, just sold their souls to the evil.
	I'm not sure if they are aware of it, but the things they do are spiritual, in my opinion.
	This is not political only.
	Who?
	Maybe 300.
	Look at the fruits.
	Look at Soros.
	He's present.
	That's his history.
	You know the history of Soros.
	He had no problem to sell people, basically, during the war.
	And he said, if I wouldn't do it, someone else would do it.
	That was his explanation.
	So when I look at Soros and others, they are evil people.
	Very, very bad people.
	I would not be able to sell someone's lives and kill someone.
	In fact, send someone to death because someone else would do it anyway.
	What kind of way of thinking?
	It's evil.
	So what he does in Poland, in Hungary, Albania, and other countries now is just supporting very much radical left, leftism, which is responsible for this war against Christianity.
	So again, his works, it's not political.
	It might look political, but the most important is to destroy family, get rid of Christianity, whatever it's possible, and fight Christ.
	Why?
	I think because evil is present from the beginning.
	And I think in different parts of the history of humanity, you always had a war between good and evil.
	He's the king of this world, the evil one.
	And it's up to us.
	Our free will is the greatest gift.
	And you decide if you want to suffer and fight for Christ, for good, for mercy, for future, or you want to sell your soul for billions of dollars, in some cases, millions, for fame, for power.
	These people are sick.
	There's a moment in your life when you reach the level of richness that money is not enough.
	You need power.
	When you get power, it's not enough.
	You have to own people.
	That's why we had babies as victims of satanic rituals.
	So.
	Very interesting.
	So you said what?
	You have money, then power, then you own people.
	then you want to own someone's life.
	In many cases, you want to take this life away.
	You want to be like God.
	This is what is happening.
	When you have money, power, then you want to be a God.
	You want to take away lives.
	That's why they sacrifice.
	That's why the Satan is sacrificed.
	Children, that's why Hollywood, many of Hollywood are coming out now.
	Many of Hollywood stars, look at, I don't know, Mel Gibson and others.
	They are talking about it, Jim Kerry.
	They are talking about it out loud.
	But in many cases, very often people are like, he's nuts.
	He went crazy.
	Something's happened to him.
	He went too much religion.
	He's too much religious and this and that.
	But it's just a fact, in my opinion.
	It's just a need of power.
	And then when you have power, you want to be God.
	Let me ask this question for you.
	So let's go back to Muslims.
	0.1% Poland.
	I looked up Russia.
	They're at 18%, give or take.
	And you've heard Putin talk about, you know, Muslims, Khabib, the UFC champion, greatest, you know, UFC fighter.
	I've had a great conversation with him.
	I'm a Christian myself.
	I'm fiscally conservative.
	I've been a registered independent for 15 years.
	The more I get older, family, I see what's going on, the more conservative issues become in my life.
	When I think about the one area where Muslims will not compromise anything, if you try to bring LGBTQ philosophy, ideology to Muslims, that is a part where they're not going to cross, they're not going to allow you to cross the line.
	That's just not going to happen with them.
	That's not something they're okay with.
	What is your thoughts on a positive role?
	The Muslim community, they're not going away.
	It's 2 billion people worldwide, and they're having more kids than anybody else.
	So unless if Christians start having six kids per, which is not going to happen.
	It's not going to happen in our lifetime.
	No, it's not going to happen in our lifetime.
	By 2060, the numbers are all in their favor.
	The House in the U.S., the Senate, politically, they're going to be all over the place, right?
	What positive role do you think Muslims are going to play the next 10, 20, 30, 40 years against the woke ideology?
	They will not, because they are not a great example of resistance against woke ideology.
	I wouldn't say that the guy who is in jail and following the jail rules within the community is a great example for a good citizen.
	The fact that there is no wokeness yet within the Muslim community doesn't purify them from the terrorist state of mind.
	That's what I think.
	And I'm not talking about all Muslims.
	Again, I want to be very, very clear.
	I think there are people who are honest, but they do not take their voice.
	They do not raise their voice.
	They do not react as they should when all the terror attacks taking place.
	And the fact that there is no, you know, okay, there's no wokeness because they are throwing gay people from the roofs.
	That's what is happening now.
	If you are gay, your punishment is to be thrown from the roof and you are killed.
	That's, you know, another extreme.
	You cannot kill people because they are gay.
	This is what they do publicly because that's the sharia law.
	You cannot cut off someone's head, hands, because, you know, we had this discussion on Sharia law in Council of Europe, and they tried to implement Sharia law in some part, some states of European Union.
	It's ridiculous.
	It's 14th century.
	You can't do this kind of thing.
	It's ridiculous.
	So to me, they are not the great example of alliance against walkness because we just won't have normality.
	They are killing gay people.
	It's wrong.
	It's very wrong.
	Recently, since October 7th, Israel and Hamas, you know, Gaza, Palestine, the level of division, especially in America, protesting, university, schools, all the stuff that we've been seeing, very chaotic, very disruptive.
	It's caused a lot of people to stop contributing and giving money to Harvard.
	Many, many billionaires.
	They just stepped away and they're like, I'm out.
	These are Jews.
	And when you think about the percentage of billionaires in America that are Jewish, it's about 17 to 20 percent of billionaires in America that are Jewish.
	Okay.
	And, you know, the links between Ashkenazi Jews and their high IQ score and all this stuff that you hear about.
	And then, but there's also the major opposition right now.
	You'll see a lot of influencers right now that are going with this message in a big way.
	Wow, you know, we're no longer America first.
	America is Israel first.
	It's all about what Israel wants.
	And it's, you know, America through APAC, and I'm just giving you, I want to hear you.
	So, you know, it's all about APAC.
	And AIPAC controls all these politicians.
	And if they want to get rid of them, look what they did to Corey Bush.
	Look what they did to, you know, Bowman.
	And look what they're doing to all these other guys.
	And if they want to do this, you better be careful because they're going to do this to you.
	And it's because of, and even I had a guy on the podcast.
	It's like, hey, the world is a better place if Israel does.
	I'm like, the world's a better place if Israel.
	Yeah.
	So what do you say to both sides?
	Okay, obviously you've been not talking very complimentary of the Muslim community or straight up.
	I mean, a person's watching this, they're going to know exactly where you stand when it comes down to the Muslim community.
	That's what I want.
	As a politician, I want everyone to know what I think, what I'm going to do in the legislation.
	I want to be very, very clear.
	I don't like politicians.
	There's zero gray with you.
	Yes.
	Zero gray with you.
	Yes.
	It's very evident.
	But what do you say to those that say, you know, Jews, you know, Israel and Jews run the world and APAC runs the world and whatever they want, they get.
	What do you say to them?
	I say, look who is protesting against Israel and who is protesting in favor of Gaza.
	People with the red flags, t-shirts with the t-shirts with Marx, Stalin-Lenin communists.
	When you see, show me your friends, I will know, I'll let you know who you are.
	Look at the protests.
	University is not only that.
	When you see who is protesting, you will see young and old communists.
	In Poland, to wear a t-shirt with Stalin is against the law.
	You would end up in jail.
	Promoting fascism and Stalinism, communism, is forbidden.
	In Poland.
	Yes, you cannot wear swastika.
	You cannot wear communist symbols because we went through so much hurt, so much terrible experiences that in our law, you are not allowed to wear Hitler or Stalin.
	And I had this conversation, I think, with, I was on Tucker Carlson.
	Someone asked me, oh, what about free speech?
	Oh, it's against free speech.
	So, okay, so let's say that someone will break in your house, rape your wife, kill your children, and your neighbor next day will sell a t-shirt with this guy as a hero.
	Would you let it happen?
	Or you would react that a murderer is promoted as a hero, as someone who is special, who's cool.
	In Polish law, you are not allowed to promote communism and fascism.
	You cannot have Hitler and you cannot have Stalin on your t-shirts.
	In the US and in other places, people who are protesting against Israel in favor of Gaza or Palestine, whatever, they are communists.
	And when I see them, when I see this crowd, if someone is asking me, I am very, very straight.
	I hope Israel will do whatever it's needed to keep Israel safe.
	Because on one side, we have these communists, idiots who do not know history, do not know anything, they do not know what's two plus two.
	But on one hand, we have this communist protesting against Israel in favor of free Palestine.
	On the other hand, we have very rich Arab countries like Qatar who are responsible for the biggest corruption scandal in the European Union.
	Qatargate exploded and it was about $50 million as a bribe to members of the European Parliament for a beautiful good PR for Qatar.
	As you know, Qatar had a problem.
	PR, he had a problem because many people died during the stadium buildings before the World Cup and they tried to convince the world that everything is okay on the building sides, that the conditions are good and workers are fine.
	Many of them died.
	So what they did, they went to vice president of the European Parliament and apparently, from what we heard in the parliament and in the media, they paid over 50 million Euros, Qatar.
	Basically, they bought a vice president of the European Parliament, many of members of the European Parliament to work for Qatar.
	So from one side, we have stupid communists.
	Then we have very rich Qatar paying bribes for PR in the European Parliament.
	And then Israel is the one who is blamed for all the evil.
	Israel has the right to protect itself.
	What happened in October was unacceptable.
	And now they pay the price for their radical, radical Islamist terror, which is spread for years throughout the world.
	If you could name me any Israeli terror attack, do you know any terrorists from Israel?
	Every single time we hear Munich, then other cases, the world is surprised that Israel was hunting down Germans who are responsible for Holocaust.
	International law, they would tell you US Liberty, you know, the ship.
	They would tell you, you know.
	I would do the same.
	I would take my gun and kill the guy on the spot.
	I wouldn't care about international law because the ones who are responsible for Holocaust, they had mercy because they were basically...
	Are you familiar with the USS Liberty incident?
	Yeah, when they shot down the US ship Israel did.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	But the question is, the question, yes, but the question is, does Israel have the right to protect itself?
	It's not Israel who attacked Palestine, Gaza.
	That was reaction.
	The reaction after October.
	And then on the other hand.
	I'm only responding because I know the audience watching this who doesn't agree with you is going to say, what are you talking about?
	No, there's they attacked the USS No, no, they knew the ship.
	You're talking about October 7th.
	But I'm telling you, when you said, Was there any terrorist attacks?
	They'll say they attacked the U.S. ship.
	They'll say they shot down a plane and then they said, We're sorry.
	Russia didn't know they're bad people.
	Israel, they're forgiven.
	So they'll come back and say there is no balance.
	There is no balance between the aggression, terror, fear throughout the years from the Arab side and the reaction of Israel.
	First of all, let me show me your friends.
	Why only leftists are protesting against Israel?
	When you see the protests throughout the world, all these universities on the streets as well.
	Why the left are pro-Palestine?
	Why?
	Why Arab countries do not contribute with the migration crisis throughout the world?
	What about Qatar?
	They are not taking migrants.
	Migrants are mostly Arabic speaking, right?
	Why are they not going to Qatar?
	And in the same time, Qatar is paying money for a great PR to attack basically Israel as well, but basically build a beautiful story about itself.
	And the biggest scandal in the history of the European Parliament, I tell you this story.
	They were bringing cash from Qatar.
	And they had a meeting point in Paris, from Paris, in a car.
	They were bringing loads of cash to Belgium and they were spreading it through for the corrupted MEPs.
	And one day they had so much cash.
	I know that from one of the arrested, that they had to throw it away.
	They couldn't.
	And he bent it in the European Parliament.
	He just thrashed it.
	He put the cash because there was too much of it from Qatar.
	You're kidding me.
	What happened to him?
	He just left it because he said it was physically that was too much.
	I couldn't take it.
	So what happened to him?
	He's arrested.
	Yes.
	How many guys got arrested?
	Six.
	Each got 50 million or was 50 million to the city?
	No, no, no, no.
	Each 50.
	They were caught with 2 million.
	I'll show you the pictures.
	Each got 50 million?
	About 50.
	We don't know exact numbers, but about 50, each one of them.
	I'll show you the picture of the suitcases when they were arrested, full of money.
	Is it public?
	Yeah, yeah, Qatargate.
	Google it.
	Qatargate, Domik Darczynski, because I was the one who revealed the whole story in Poland about the scandal.
	So I don't think Qatar likes me very much.
	But you can see suitcase.
	$50 million.
	Each.
	Looking up to see if they see it.
	Yeah, Eva Kahili, that's the one, the blonde girl.
	And this is Panzeri, the guy who was very much in.
	And she's one of the ones that got caught.
	Yeah, she was caught and he was caught as well.
	Both of them.
	Yeah, socialist, obviously.
	And the communists.
	It's amazing how you're socialist, but when it comes down to you getting capitalists, of course, yeah, when it's come to bribes.
	So obviously, one of them, Panzeri, and then there was one, another Italian MEP who was a member of the Italian Communist Party.
	And obviously, it's always leftists who are in support of the Arab world and obviously taking money for what they do.
	I'll find it.
	Is this it?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
	Yes, that's right.
	That's right.
	That is wild.
	And are they in jail right now?
	Are they back in politics again?
	No, no, no.
	They did not run.
	I think some of them are released, but the trial is on.
	But the funny thing, I mean, funny, very, very sad thing is that in European Parliament, you can buy a vice president of the parliament to say beautiful things about Qatar.
	It's really scary.
	And the whole story is unbelievable.
	How many, how much, yes, that's the one.
	Go Lord to see if we can see that.
	800,000 euros, it's nothing.
	It's just.
	Yeah, but there was a picture on it that I wanted to show the audience so the audience can actually see it.
	It's pretty wild to see stuff like this taking place.
	In European Parliament.
	In European Parliament.
	And why is it Qatar?
	Why is it?
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	But again, on the streets, students wearing communist symbols on their t-shirts.
	In the European Parliament, high-level politicians, there are always communists and socialists.
	There's a link between these high-level politicians who are corrupted and the youngs who are protesting against Israel.
	So when I see the links, when I see the dots, when I add all the arguments, if you ask me, I cannot be pro-Palestine.
	There you go.
	So this is the money that they had.
	So let me ask you.
	So for you, you're not going away anytime soon, okay?
	From your energy, your vibe, just watching you, you're a true believer, you're a fighter.
	You are meant to do what you're doing right now.
	What is your plan on how to deal with the Muslim community the next 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years?
	They're going to get bigger.
	And by the way, so you may say, yeah, but it's not going to happen in Poland.
	Yeah, but it's going to happen in every country around your country.
	Then come to Poland.
	What do you mean?
	I mean, if you want to be safe, if you want to feel safe, if you want to feel normal, if you want to live normal, if you want to.
	Yeah, but they're going to attack you.
	You're small.
	You're not that powerful.
	Well, I know what you mean.
	I know what you mean.
	Well, obviously, there is a way out of this craziness, but it's up to the leaders.
	What do you mean?
	I mean, if religious leaders will not lead the way of change, if Iran will not change, nothing will change.
	And there will be a war.
	And I think if the war, please God, I hope it's not going to happen.
	But if the World War III will start, it will start on a religious base.
	It's going to be religious.
	What do you think about Donald Tusk?
	What I think about him?
	I think he's a traitor.
	You think he's a traitor?
	Yeah, in many cases, of the Polish business.
	I mean.
	And by the way, to the audience who doesn't know who he is, if you don't mind telling us.
	He's a prime minister at the moment in Poland.
	He's a former prime minister.
	He's a former president of the European Council.
	Some say he's a conservative.
	He's a center-right.
	No.
	You know, online, it would say he's a conservative.
	Why would you position it?
	Why would you call someone conservative if he allows his conservative?
	He claims he's a conservative.
	Well, I'm a pink elephant.
	You know what I mean?
	It's ridiculous.
	He's a pro-abortion.
	He allowed his colleague, mayor of Warsaw, to take down crosses from the walls.
	He fights every conservative part of our policies.
	Yeah, there he is.
	There he is.
	I don't want to go too far, but he's very pro-German.
	Let me put it this way, very gently.
	Okay.
	So all the businesses, all the big German businesses, Germans are very happy that he's in charge.
	That's exactly where I'm going.
	So here's where I'm going with you.
	Okay.
	So 0.1%, you've been able to lower crime dramatically, right?
	Over a million 466.
	During our government.
	During your government.
	I'm talking from 99 to 2021.
	Right.
	Dramatically during the eight years since the conservative side's been running it.
	All this other stuff that you're looking at.
	Crime, rape, unemployment.
	Things are looking good.
	So obviously, Germany, EU, they don't like that because you're embarrassing them.
	That's right.
	And on a public level, on a world level, everyone is seeing this.
	They don't like you.
	They don't like what you're doing.
	So a guy like him gets in.
	He's a PM.
	What kind of influence and power does he have?
	What can he do to dramatically change the trajectory you guys have created?
	He can do a lot because our system is not presidential.
	It's rather gabinetical.
	So as a prime minister, he has the whole power.
	Very important information.
	He did not win election.
	Our party won.
	The problem is that he was able to convince small political parties to build the coalition in the parliament.
	So we, our party won the election.
	He was second.
	But then he took post-communist small parties and he built the majority.
	But yes, there is a risk that Tusk will bring Poland back to 90s when the unemployment was so high.
	But the most important thing is that he will actually fight the church.
	And I'm not talking about the church as administrative kind of thing.
	I'm talking about the people of church, the Catholics.
	I don't know if you're aware, but we have a very well-known Catholic priest in the jail now in Poland.
	He's jailed for last, I don't know, five months, I think.
	And that's the first case, I think, in history when they put the priest behind the bars for corruption, as they say, because they said that he's connected to the previous government and obviously was making money out of the Polish budget.
	So obviously, I do believe that he is innocent.
	But to put the priest, a monk, behind the bars.
	He did that.
	He did that.
	This is something absolutely new.
	Is this John Giorgan?
	John the name of the priest?
	Yeah, what's the name of the priest?
	Michal Olushevsky.
	I'll show you.
	Oh, Michal Ovszewski.
	Yeah.
	It's like our Michael.
	Yeah, Michael Polish.
	So that's very sad.
	And what was his reasoning for putting him behind?
	Well, basically, they said that political revenge.
	So priest arrested for political revenge.
	And this just happened July 18th.
	That's right.
	So Father Michael Olchevsky.
	Well, well, they arrested him a couple months ago, but he's still in jail.
	He's a monk.
	And he did that.
	Okay, so.
	But the most important thing is what's happened after the Smolensk crash when Polish President Lakochinsky died in Smolensk, Russia.
	The whole investigation was given to Russia by this man.
	Tusk gave away investigation on this tragedy to Russians.
	Why would he do that?
	Yeah, that's a very good question.
	Why would he?
	Because he is responsible for what happened in Smolensk.
	He is one of those who are responsible, in my opinion.
	He is responsible politically.
	He is responsible in many other ways.
	He didn't want Poland, Poland, to be part of this investigation.
	And that's a very big sign of who you are as a patriot.
	Your president died and you let others side to do the investigation by the international law.
	He signed it.
	He's very pro-Russian.
	He's very pro-German.
	He's not a good man.
	Pro-Russian, pro-German.
	Yeah.
	He's not a good man.
	Okay.
	So let me go since you brought up Russia and you brought up Germany.
	Story comes out, right?
	Just two days ago from Wall Street Journal.
	Kelly, if you want to pull this up, I'm trying to see what page it's on.
	In regards to the Nord Stream pipeline, when you read this, it says that Zelensky knew about a handful of people that on a 2300, that's the one, a drunken evening, a rented yacht, the real story of the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage.
	Private businessman fund funded the shoestring operation, which was overseen by top general President Zelensky, approved the plan, then tried unsuccessfully to call it off because CIA told him to call it off, and it didn't happen.
	Now keep in mind, this is not a regular news site saying this, okay?
	In May 22nd, a handful of senior Ukrainian military officers and businessmen had gathered to toast their country's remarkable success in halting the Russian invasion, and then they're telling all this story.
	And eventually, one of the most audacious acts of sabotage in modern history, the operation worsened an energy crisis in Europe, an assault on critical infrastructure that could be considered an act of war under international theory swirled about who was responsible.
	Was it the CIA?
	Could Putin himself have said, because a lot of people was blaming Putin.
	And it says, now for the first time, the outlines of the real story can be told.
	The Ukrainian operation cost around $300,000, according to people who participated in it.
	It involved a small rented yacht with a six-member crew, including a civilian-trained diver.
	One was a woman whose presence helped create the illusion they were a group of friends on a pleasure cruise, etc., etc.
	And then, obviously, Ukrainian President Zelensky initially approved the plan, according to the one officer that participated in three people familiar with it.
	But later when the CIA learned of it and asked the president to pull the plug, he ordered a halt and the people said, you know, continued with it.
	Long story short, this is not like a small little blog.
	It's not a small little site.
	This is Wall Street Journal.
	Credibility from the left and the right.
	This isn't CNN.
	This isn't Fox.
	When it first happened, immediately everybody's like, oh, it's Putin.
	He did it.
	Okay, Putin did it.
	He's the bad guy right now.
	Everybody goes online.
	Who owns Nord Stream Pipeline?
	50.1% owned by Russia.
	Of course.
	Who else owns it?
	Dutch?
	I think two companies in Dutch.
	One company, Germany, and there's one other company as well.
	It's four countries that own it, but 50.1% is Russia.
	So why would he do that?
	Why would he do that?
	And then everybody got behind Zelensky.
	Zelensky got a couple hundred billion dollars.
	We should give him money.
	We should protect him.
	We should do this.
	And then there was, hey, message, hey, the entire thing is done.
	A text from, I think, former PM or somebody from UK.
	And hey, we got this one.
	What is that all about?
	And they resign.
	A lot of weird things happen, right?
	You're Poland, Ukraine, Russia, right?
	And we're now sitting here.
	You're directly in this community and you're hearing these stories.
	You're directly being impacted in it.
	You're part of the EU.
	You're in the parliament.
	You're in, you know, Poland that the warriors, if they go after Ukraine first, they're coming after you next.
	What happened here?
	If this is true, man.
	Well, first of all, thank God Nordstream 2 does not exist.
	I'm happy about it.
	Tell me why.
	Because Nord Stream 2 was used by Germany and Russia to build the power of their army.
	I mean, Russian army.
	The money from Nordstream 2 went straight to the Russian army and the Russian army, bigger Russian army as a threat to the world.
	And it would start with Poland.
	So Nord Stream 2 was a project, was a pipeline from Russia through Germany, and Germans were about to spread it around Europe, make money on it, and basically use it as a blackmail in a situation when they wanted.
	Russians used this pipeline in the past, the gas itself, blackmailing and pushing many countries and make them do whatever Russia wants.
	So thank God Nordstream 2 is blown and does not exist because it is a weapon.
	This is not just a pipeline.
	It is a weapon for Putin used in the past many times.
	So I'm happy about it.
	Who did it?
	I don't know.
	Well, we had this Polish minister, this one, who tweeted this.
	I remember that.
	He's so stupid.
	Thank you, USA.
	I remember that.
	How can you say that?
	Who did that?
	Who was the Sradek Sikorsky?
	He's in Donald Trust's cabinet now, foreign minister.
	For Poland?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How can you say that?
	How can you do this kind of thing?
	Well, you don't know.
	And then, you know, then Russian propaganda print this tweet and showed this in United Nations that attacked Americans for destroying Nordstream 2.
	What do you think is the credibility of the story here?
	By the way, I have another one that says, how do Russians know that the UK?
	Oh, there you go.
	Yeah, he deleted it.
	Right.
	So, so, but what do you do when you see a story like this?
	Knowing the CIA told Zelensky, don't do it, and then they did, that he may be tied to it.
	What do you think is the likelihood that he's tied to it?
	Well, it is, well, it is possible that he was not able to stop it.
	But if I would have to decide who to trust on this, I wouldn't trust Zelensky.
	You wouldn't trust Zelensky?
	No.
	Because if he would try to stop it, what would be the problem?
	It's not a James Bond movie.
	It's not like, oh, stop.
	It's a process.
	Come on.
	You know?
	It's a joke.
	So how do you feel about Zelensky?
	How do I feel about him?
	How do you feel, man?
	I'm not in love with him.
	Do you like him?
	I never met him, so do I like him?
	What I can say, I hate Putin.
	That's what I can say.
	I'm sure about my feelings towards Putin.
	That explains a little bit what I think about Zelensky in a way.
	Putin is an ex-KGB agent responsible for many bad things in the world.
	Zelensky is not my favorite.
	He's not my kind of guy.
	But he's doing good for Ukraine, I think, in this situation.
	He's doing good for Ukraine at the moment.
	I never met him.
	I never had any.
	We did not work together.
	I visited Ukraine after the Russian attack because of my PhD.
	So I had to see mass graves myself.
	I took some documentation from the prosecutor office because I needed it for PhD.
	But I never worked with him.
	I do have my doubts.
	Do you trust him?
	Trust is a big word.
	Well, you have to remember that Poland and the US is a different story.
	I want to be straight.
	I do not know the guy.
	I know that there is a huge problem with corruption in Ukraine.
	There's a huge problem with corruption, even during the war.
	And that really pisses me off because the whole world is trying to help Ukraine.
	And they still have a huge problem with the corruption.
	And this makes me angry.
	Because my, you see, I come from very East Poland, Eastern Poland, and when the whole, the war started, millions of refugees, genuine refugees came to Poland through the, because we are neighboring country.
	Over 17 million people went through Poland.
	And my mom was one of those who just prepared some food, sandwiches, and went there to help people, these children.
	And she was crying and calling me that, you know, so many poor, genuine people in need are in Poland.
	They have no place to sleep and this and that.
	So that was heartbreaking.
	But on the other side, as every one of us can hear, and that's the news from Ukraine itself about another cases of people arrested for corruption.
	It's a big money.
	So there is a kind of.
	When you ask me if I like him, I feel frustrated when I see people like my mom helping Ukrainians who are in general need poor people.
	And then I hear about the corruption so many years and he didn't do much about it.
	In Poland during the war, if you would be called for the corruption, you would be killed on the spot.
	This is war.
	And that pisses me off.
	I don't like it, but I don't want to judge him.
	We'll see what's going to happen after the war.
	I think war will end soon, or it will be warlike in Syria, taking like 12 years.
	It's going to bleed a little bit.
	And we'll see what's, you know, we had these peace talks now in Egypt, so we'll see what's going to happen.
	When you hear these stories, people message me, and I got friends from all over the world.
	So the fact that I'm Armenian, I know Russians, I know guys from Baku, Azerbaijan, you know, Yerevan, and they'll go and, hey, some of these guys are connected to people in high places, some of them are connected to guys in low places.
	And sometimes the people in low places know a lot of things that's going on.
	And they'll say it's an open fact that they're taking money.
	generals are getting money when that 200 billion that's coming through that Zelensky is taking off the top.
	Is that a known fact to people that are closer to the situation like yourself in Poland?
	Oh yes, oh yes.
	I went to Ukraine.
	So you know that Zelensky is making money off this 200 billion.
	Well, that's what we've heard.
	We don't know what's the gossip, what's the fact, but I'll tell you this story because I went to Ukraine because they asked us to help them with the self-government reform before the war.
	And they were trying to reform the states and work on the new legislation, all self-government, this and that.
	So we went to the university, we went to the local councils, we had many meetings and during the one of the meetings, I said, listen, in the end of this visit, I said, listen, you've got a serious problem with corruption.
	If you will not fight it, if you will not stop it, you will never do what you want to do about self-government and legislation.
	Who are you saying this to?
	I was saying this to the professor on universities because they were part of the team who was working on the legislation.
	And the professor said, it's impossible.
	I said, what is impossible?
	To stop corruption.
	I said, okay, so maybe you should start thinking about stopping the corruption.
	And he says, it's impossible.
	We cannot start thinking about stopping the corruption because corruption is everywhere and it will never happen.
	So mental state of the professor.
	Expect it.
	Mental state of the professor at the university, law professor, was it's impossible.
	It cannot be done.
	So the state of mind in Ukraine, elites, people who are responsible for, it's that it cannot be done.
	Even war did not stop corruption in Ukraine.
	And I feel bad about it because we spend so much money as Poland.
	You spend so much money as US.
	And corruption is still there.
	So I feel like I know we have to fight Putin.
	I know we have to help them to fight Putin to defend.
	But on the other side, I hear about the cases of corruption every single day.
	It pisses me off.
	That's why I'm so confused.
	I hate Putin.
	I think he's an evil man.
	Every ex-KGB agent.
	He was KGB office.
	And I know that he's an evil man.
	And I know that Russia is a state of mind.
	And I know that everyone who is attacked by Russia should be supported.
	But I really don't like what they do with the money.
	I hate it.
	Okay.
	So interesting when it comes down to that.
	By the way, internally, what's the word on the streets where you're at?
	Being in the parliament, being in the EU?
	And, you know, because you said, well, you know, Zelensky, man, they're holding their own.
	They're doing great.
	And they're winning.
	They're doing this.
	They're doing that.
	Who's really winning the war?
	Russia or Ukraine right now?
	It's hard to say because it's hard to say because we don't have the numbers.
	If we would judge it politically, politically, not military.
	Politically, I think Russia is losing because of what is happening recently.
	As you know, Ukrainians entered the Russian territory and they are gaining more land and that's a shock.
	Everyone was like, okay, this war is going to take five, six days.
	They're going to take over Kiev and that's it.
	It's done.
	It didn't happen.
	So this huge Russian bear was about to take this.
	small Ukraine within a week and it takes years and now Ukrainians are entering Russian territory first time since Second World War.
	Someone is on the Russian territory.
	So, you know, the image of Putin angry when he was getting the reports from what is happening at the border, it doesn't look good for Putin.
	What is the real story behind it?
	What are the casualties?
	We do not have the...
	Apparently it's half a million on both sides.
	It's much more on Ukrainian side.
	Much more.
	It's much more on the Ukrainian side.
	Got it.
	So militarily, Russia's ahead.
	Yeah.
	Territory.
	Some of the stories coming up politically, maybe Ukraine is in the head because, OK, so.
	So on the Putin side, you know, when I talk to somebody who is Jewish and they're part of APAC, I know what their motives are to defend what is APAC, Jewish, no problem.
	When I talk to somebody who is Muslim and they're pro-Palestine, I'm not surprised if they're going to say, you know, I'm against XYZ.
	When I talk to somebody who is a atheist, you know, I can see why, you know, Christians, Jesus, maybe you mock them.
	Okay.
	And when I talk to somebody who is all the positions, when you talk to Putin, you know, Putin's motivations is Soviet Union, USSR, his hero, KGBs, what he did.
	He's a proud leader of his country, nationalist.
	He's a full-on nationalist about what Russia stands for.
	Now, watch this.
	So you promise you're not going to make any advances with Ukraine being part of NATO and you get involved and you keep getting closer and closer and closer.
	Then last year, give or take around June July, you guys start saying, NATO starts saying we have to accelerate the process of, no, Biden said we have to possibly consider accelerating process.
	We can find out who said this, of Ukraine joining NATO.
	You're trying to get under the skin of the bear for him to say, look, guys, look, if you want to play this, let's play this.
	Then he goes to Iran.
	Then he goes, gets closer to China, and you're pushing them together.
	Historically, you always, you don't want Russia and China to get too close.
	They're getting closer.
	So you're also playing with fire here.
	What do you say to people that are saying, look, he's just defending his country?
	Yeah, defending in what way?
	So if only because Ukraine is a neighboring country, it doesn't mean that they cannot decide about themselves.
	Why Ukraine should resign from, I'm not advocating.
	I'm just trying to be logical.
	Why sovereign independent country should decide about their future because they are neighbors with Russia?
	If they want to be the part of the NATO or European Union, why not?
	Only because they are neighbors with Russia?
	Come on.
	They're not satellite state anymore.
	The way of thinking, Putin's way of thinking is that he wants to, he's trying to rebuild Soviet Union, which means Ukraine was part of Soviet Union, Latvia, and many other states, right?
	Lithuania.
	So only because Ukraine is next to Russia, it doesn't mean that they will not be able to decide about themselves.
	I do understand your argument that, okay, you shouldn't be doing this because Russia will react.
	You know, they are free people.
	They breathe the same way.
	They eat like we do.
	They do have the right to decide about themselves.
	Yeah, there's the one right here.
	Last year, July, I said July 2023, leaders agreed to expedite Ukraine's NATO membership.
	So a part of this, you're right, Ukraine can do that.
	Yeah, go for it.
	Do what you want to do.
	But behind closed doors, Putin's sitting there and saying, listen, guys, we negotiate with you guys.
	And you guys said you guys weren't going to do this.
	You keep saying, we never have any intentions.
	We never have any intentions.
	And you keep coming further, further, further close to me.
	You want to do that?
	I have to protect what I got because my job is to defend myself.
	In my opinion, this is not the real reason.
	That is only an excuse.
	You have to remember that Putin attacked Georgia in 2008.
	What was the reason to attack Georgian territory?
	Tanks went in and he killed a lot of Georgians.
	Every single time when someone is trying to grow, basically, because to be the member of the European Union in many cases, and NATO as a kind of growth, for Ukraine, that would be growth in the beginning to be a member of the European Union.
	So what is the reason for Putin?
	Why did he attack Georgia or Setia?
	We know what is happening throughout the years.
	That's only an excuse.
	I do understand the argument, but they are free nations.
	And obviously, he attacked Ukraine because he knew that during the war, they will not be able to join NATO because the state, in the state of war, the country cannot join NATO.
	That's the law, obviously.
	So that's why I think this war will take years.
	It's not going to end.
	Because that is the way to keep Ukraine out of NATO.
	And obviously for Russia, it is safer not to have Ukraine in NATO because obviously because they are neighbors.
	But in 2003, Putin began to consider the possibility of military solution conflict with Georgia after Georgia deported four suspected Russian spies in 2006.
	Russia began a full-scale diplomatic and economic war against Georgia.
	Was that the motive?
	What's the story behind the Russian spies, the four suspected Russian spies?
	So the spies are everywhere.
	They were in the past.
	They are going to be in the future.
	That's normal.
	Spies, it doesn't matter.
	The most important thing is that civilians, children were killed.
	So you cannot use this kind of excuse, spies, six, or whatever.
	You cannot kill civilians.
	That was, you see, that's why I'm trying to get into the genocide in my PhD because genocide is taking place in different places in the world now.
	And when you kill only because someone is Armenian, Georgian, Ukrainian, or Polish, this is genocide because of someone's origin.
	And he doesn't need any reason to attack.
	If you Google YouTube, the attack on Georgia in 2006, 8, you will see in 2008, you will see how many women and children were killed in Georgia.
	That's why Polish President Lech Kaczynski went to Georgia and very, he took like six presidents with him and stood up against Putin because he knew that after Georgia is Ukraine, then Baltic states and then Poland and after Poland, you never know what might happen.
	So, you know, when liberals or leftists in America will say, yeah, you support the NRA.
	You know, why do we have to have all these guns?
	And why do you have to have M16s?
	Why can't you just have a small little shotgun to protect your family?
	Well, because against tyranny, if the government eventually has weapons and they decide to come against me, why are you so paranoid?
	That was such a long time ago.
	You think it's going to happen again today?
	Stop being so worried about what happened back in the days.
	Okay.
	So then the same people will sometimes criticize and say, look at these Jews.
	These Jews are thinking another Holocaust is going to happen.
	Are you crazy?
	Something like that's not going to happen.
	Why are you so paranoid about it?
	You know, that was something that was because of a guy named it's not going to happen again.
	These guys want everybody to feel so sorry for them and you know, all this other stuff.
	And hey, Armenians in Naguro, you know, Nagorno Garabak, you know, you guys are so worried about, you know, Azerbaijan or, you know, Armenian Jen.
	That was a long time ago, Erdogan.
	You don't have to worry.
	We're not going to do that to you again.
	That's not going to have, relax.
	Why are you guys so paranoid?
	It's not a big deal.
	Let's just, you know, Jew, you know, why are you, you guys, why are you so worried about, you know, Russia?
	They're not going to do that to you again or Hitler or all this.
	These natural fears that we all, even Muslims have the fear.
	So, you know, it's all America's fault.
	Look all the money they made and they destroyed us.
	We all have a little bit of that, right?
	But it's not only about fears, it's about experience.
	I'm with you.
	I lived in Iran 11 years almost.
	So I know what it is to be bombed 165 times in a day.
	And trust me, as an eight-year-old kid, six-year-old kids, you remember this stuff when we are escaping and I'm living in the capital while the war is happening and I'm born 78, October 18th.
	You know, you and I are four or five months apart.
	So during the peak, I'm there.
	I witnessed the whole thing on what's going on, right?
	So with all these fears, realities, experiences that we all individually have where it becomes your truth, right?
	You know, as a people, we make fun of your truth, but it is truly your life.
	It's your experience, right?
	How do you maneuver between all these fears, prides, heritage, protection, values that you were raised by your parents, maybe the enemies that offended you, maybe the people that took away your father, your mother, a sibling?
	Everybody has it.
	How do you maneuver with all these fears, anxieties, and insecurities and still find a way to make sure World War III doesn't become a reality?
	Because we look like we're kind of flirting with it a little bit right now.
	Before I answer, I'd like to do a small introduction.
	I was born in 1979.
	Communism in Poland ended in 1989, 10 years later.
	I do remember queues for shoes, for food.
	I remember communism.
	I remember when my mother asked me to stay in the queue all night for shoes.
	I didn't get them.
	It was not enough.
	Queue?
	What do you mean, queue?
	I was in the queue.
	In line to get shoes.
	For the shoes.
	My mom would say, wait in line to get the shoes.
	So I had to stand there all night.
	My sisters were...
	How old are you?
	I was, I don't know, seven, six, seven.
	I do remember communism.
	Yeah, there you go.
	That's Poland.
	That's communism.
	And I'm proud that I'm here now in Florida speaking English.
	I had to learn Russian.
	You know, that we didn't have, I never learned English.
	At school, we had to have Russian.
	Having a conversation with you, because you are a perfect example of American dream.
	Look at this.
	Having your experience with Iran, Muslim radicals, and me, communists, and we are both here.
	I'm confident.
	You are a perfect example.
	When we had this conversation about Islamists.
	Not the Muslims, Islamists.
	You are the perfect example.
	And I am a perfect example of the communism.
	You can win with extremism.
	You can win with communists, but you have to fight.
	And then you are successful.
	I would never say that I will be elected four times for the Congress and then for the European Parliament.
	It's a very, very hard elections, like really hard.
	And I wouldn't say, never, that someone will ask me in my life if I'm going to run for president.
	And I keep asking, everyone is asking me about it.
	So my fear is rather an experience now when I'm 45.
	And it's rather being wise, being ready for what might happen.
	Because in our relations with Russia, throughout the ages from 15th century, we were victims all the time.
	The 70 years, I do remember that.
	We went from communism, 10 million people joined solidarity in Poland.
	10 million people.
	So if you're asking me about what we're going to do about Muslims, look what is happening now in Great Britain.
	People are on the streets.
	It's going to spread.
	Other countries will join and it's going to be a conflict.
	If politicians will not be brave to stop this madness, nothing will change.
	People will take, people will go on the streets and will fight because it's not about riots.
	It's not about political differences.
	People cannot trust police services.
	They have to protect themselves in many cases.
	In Sweden, I remember I visited my friend in Sweden and he says, okay, I'll show you no-go zones.
	And we went to no-go zone and in a car.
	I just took my phone.
	I was about to start recording.
	And there was like 30 seconds.
	They were running with the knives.
	And we had to run.
	You do have no-go zones where you really do not go.
	Police do not go.
	It's not like in Chicago that, okay, that's a gang neighborhood.
	You don't go there because something might happen.
	In Sweden, if you go to no-go zones, you are dead.
	So this madness, it has to be stopped because we are responsible for this time on earth, on this planet, which was given by God.
	And we're going to sit and cry or we're going to fight.
	I'm ready to fight.
	And I'm going to fight politically.
	You've got a great tool.
	You're so popular you have.
	And you can have people to, you know, to show them that you are open for normal conversation.
	I wouldn't have this kind of conversation with CNN or Al Jazeera or two hours where you do not interrupt.
	It's something different.
	So I feel like at home, because it's normal.
	You can have a conversation even if you do not agree, you listen to your guest.
	And I'm trying to say rather to politicians, not to the viewers, to have balls.
	To be a man.
	Do not be afraid.
	I'm trying to be as simple as possible.
	If you do not have the strength, go to the business.
	Do something else.
	Yeah.
	Well, you got kids.
	Not yet.
	Not married.
	Not married.
	No kids.
	You're not married.
	I'm not.
	So you're engaged.
	Not yet.
	Also not engaged.
	No.
	Are you ready?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I'm free.
	I think.
	Yes.
	You want kids?
	Of course, yes.
	Okay.
	So you do.
	Absolutely.
	I'm a family guy.
	Absolutely.
	First of all, I got four.
	You're going to have the time of your life.
	And I think that's a good thing.
	It is time.
	it's time now it is time for i'm about to finish my my house I'll show you later.
	I look forward to it.
	Brother, this has been great.
	Thank you.
	Truly, I've really enjoyed it.
	And I can talk to you for a couple of hours because for you, anybody that has the kind of pride, conviction, whether a person watches right now, I agree.
	He's right.
	I disagree.
	Regardless what anybody says, the level of conviction you got, a person has to respect.
	And you got a lot of that.
	And I appreciate you.
	Not a long flight.
	It was just from Poland.
	It's not a long flight.
	I'm here for a couple of weeks.
	So maybe next year we're going to have another conversation.
	This was great, brother.
	Thank you.
	Take care.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Tell me you don't love this guy.
	Tell me you don't love his patriotism on how much he loves his country.
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