DNC Day 1, Candace Owens & Dan Bilzerian Israel Controversy, Fed Rate Cuts | PBD Podcast | Ep. 458
Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Vincent Oshana, and Tom Ellsworth cover Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris' speeches during Day 1 of the DNC, Dan Bilzerian & Candace Owens being criticized for their comments about Israel's involvement in 9/11, JFK's assassination, and the attack on the U.S.S Liberty, and Donald Trump's stern warning to American's who are critical of Israel.
00:00 - Podcast intro
00:25 - Tom and Adam are fighting before the podcast even starts.
01:44 - PBD previews the stories coming up on the podcast.
08:56 - Fed to deliver three 25 quarter-point rate cuts this year; recession unlikely.
16:32 - Biden delivers opening night speech at Democratic National Convention.
41:16 - Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, Laura Loomer, and other influencers turn against Trump.
53:11 - Dan Bilzerian and Candace Owens criticized for comments about Israel's involvement in 9/11, the JFK assassination, and the attack on the U.S.S Liberty.
1:50:00 - Donald Trump issues a stern warning to American's critical of Israel.
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All right, so I just want to prepare everybody that right before the podcast, if you don't have earmuffs, if you have kids around today, have the earmuffs ready because Tom and Adam already started.
And if you remember last week when Tom lost his temper, right afterwards, there was like shoes flying around here.
Tom was throwing his cup.
Adam got up.
It was pretty bad.
But we're going to try to make it civil today.
We have Rob in the house.
We brought security today, not because of all the chaos and the conversations that are being had on internet and the back and forth and all the wonderful loving messages I'm getting, which I so greatly appreciate.
We have security here because we're worried about Adam and Tom.
That's our concern today.
Literally, everybody in the building is panicking.
But let me kind of tell you guys what happened yesterday.
This old man, I don't know if you heard about this.
This old man yesterday, this 82-year-old man gave a speech.
Don't talk about Tom that way.
Let's talk about it.
At this place called Chicago.
He's an insecure little boy.
You're already down.
I told you.
I don't want to pick on the man because it's all recent podcasts.
He's a nice old man.
I would like to get through some stories.
How do I become the guy that's a calm, nice church-going guy?
And you two are going to be able to do to you.
You're supposed to be the angry patriots.
All right, so we got some stories to cover.
I've been told to be quiet.
Yesterday, what's it called?
Yesterday, the DNC took place.
Steve Kerr spoke.
Night night.
Hillary Clinton spoke.
Amazing.
She looks hot now.
Hillary Clinton's AOC spoke, and so did Biden speak.
And it was interesting.
Listen to all the messaging.
We'll have some commentary on that.
What else we got here?
Article comes out saying far-right influencers turn against Trump campaign.
WAPO story.
Misogyny to be treated as extremism by UK government.
Be careful, folks, in the UK.
Fed to deliver three 25-quarter point rate cuts this year.
Recession unlikely.
Reuters gives that story.
Jake Paul calls New York City dumbass democratic city at press conference.
How dare he make a comment like that in New York, disrespecting the people in New York?
But we'll show you the clip.
You'll enjoy that one.
DNC attendees, folks, if you haven't yet bought a ticket, DSC attendees will have opportunities for free vasectomies and abortions.
I don't even know.
No, but is this a joke or is this?
No, they had a mobile truck show up to give vasectomies and abortions, medical abortions.
I have three buddies that just went just to get it done.
Of course, of course you.
Well, they're women.
They just identify as men.
It's a whole problem.
I got you.
I got you.
Rob, you know.
Pritzker said Harris has energized the party like Obama.
So Kamala Harris is officially the new Obama.
I'm sure Obama loves that compliment.
Biden orders Secret Service protection for Kimberly Cheeto, okay?
Which is, it's so funny to have that, but you got to do what you got to do.
By the way, Don Lemon out there doing what Jesse Waters used to do 15 years ago, 10 years ago.
But he's doing a great job if you think about it.
That was phenomenal for going out there.
And I thought it was impressive.
Harris offers two debates with Trump.
The debate about debates is over.
However, Tom's got some insight.
You know, he'll give you guys a scoop on what he just heard.
U.S. housing crisis becomes a critical issue in the presidential election.
And then we have San Francisco loses last Denny's to high crime, rising inflation, disturbing.
I used to go to Denny's all the time, three, four times a week.
I love Dennis.
Majority of Californians support harsher penalties for theft and drug possession.
Kamala promises to build 3 million homes.
This is an important story, guys.
3 million homes in four years.
And Biden Harris have built only eight EV stations in two and a half years.
However, for those of you that are thinking about buying a house, Harris will propose a $25,000 down payment aid for first-time homebuyers as part of the economic agenda.
Candace Owens, there was this interview with Dan Bulzerian, really upsetting.
I don't know if you saw that.
Really?
Not good.
Very upsetting, and it's frustrating.
But, you know, you have to do what you have to do.
And there's one that's going to be even more annoying going out tomorrow, that the market is going to lose their mind when they hear what this man has to say.
So now we're going to say, Candace Owens, anything happens to me, blame the Zionists.
So there we go.
That's an article by Angry White Man.
Elon Musk walks with Jesus.
Kanye West and Bianca make surprise appearance at Donald Trump's rally in Beverly Hills.
Election 2024, Trump rallies in Pennsylvania.
Waltz targets the loan swing district in Nebraska.
Pedophilia hunters are starting to grow in popularity.
Some are taking justice into their own hands.
Venezuela's Maduro asks, who rules the U.S. after Biden walks back comments.
And then Tom's got a few stories he wants to talk about.
The Americans Household that search in recent years amid challenging consumer environment, refinancing demand, surge on mortgage rates dropping layoffs announced on multiple companies this summer and AI-driven deep fakes.
We have to talk about this.
Sites that undress women and girls face landmark lawsuits.
So this is something that everybody watching this, I actually think the 2024 election is going to be affected by deep fakes, my opinion.
We'll get into that here in a minute.
But the last thing I'll tell you is the following.
Today is what day?
Today is August 20th.
For those of you that are competing for the Manect contest, Rob, if you can go to it, Def C had a blast having him on.
Alexander Lorenzo, their top three.
And then you got Patrick Williams, Nicholas serving, you know, the, what do you call it, sniper, and then a bunch of other guys.
They're in the top 10.
Ivan Rickland with 26.
I got 10.
26.
That's right.
Keep going.
And at Middleweight, we have Mattin Hagkar first place.
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Good for you, Rola, at third place.
MJ Harris says, silly, if you got reviews, you would be in third place.
Saad Hashmani, Matan, and then the rest of the guys there.
Go to the next one.
This is heavyweight Dennis Pune.
Good for you.
Candace Owens coming up.
Look at that.
Candace Owens, second place.
Dustin Gotkovsky, third.
Calvin Ng competing.
By the way, Dustin Calvin, and who else is the third one?
Dustin, Calvin, and one other.
They're competing on Dennis.
They're competing to see who's going to be the first to do 1,000 Manex.
It's a super close race.
Dennis may actually be Dustin, but we'll see.
Is that Rob Gargoyle?
Rob Gargoyle, shoot her away.
Shoot me a favor, Rob.
Put up your QR code real quick.
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Shoot him a Manek.
Give him some love.
And by the way, they're not going to get Vivek Ramaswami.
I don't know why the hell he has Vivek's picture.
That's false advertising.
You're just going to get Robb.
Which one's Rob?
Rob's the little guy on the right.
He's a beautiful tie.
The beard?
Yes.
Yes.
The brown guys have been.
Okay, got it.
That's a guy named Vivek.
Rob Vek.
Okay, go back, Pete, Rob.
Let's see what else we got.
Go back to, let's see what else we got.
And Vincent O'Shaughana just absolutely dominating.
638, 1590.
And then go to the next one.
Go to the next one.
Go to the next one.
Matt Cook at the top.
Mark.
Good for you.
Mark Cook, 56.
That's right.
I've spoken to him 15 minutes before.
Reese Queen, Brand Smith, and you got a bunch of other guys there.
And then let's go to the last one.
You got existing Chris Magavero, user zero, Rachel Cox, and Caleb's even on there.
You know, Wills is on there asking the most Manette.
Go a little lower, go a little lower.
Look, oh man, that's a lot of good people on that list.
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Okay, let's go into topics.
Tom, first thing I'm going to go to is market.
I know a lot of people right now are worried to see what's really going to be taking place.
I want to start off with the Fed.
So Fed to deliver three quarter point rate cuts this year.
Recession unlikely, Reuters poll says.
And this is during the time, while there's a couple other stories talking about how people are having a hard time buying a house, the U.S. Federal Reserve is expected to implement three 25-base point rate cuts at the remaining meetings in 2024, reducing the federal funds rate to a range of four and a half to four and three quarters of a point by the end of the year.
This outlook follows a weaker July job reports and market pricing that has adjusted from 120 basis points to roughly 100 basis points of reduction for the year.
Despite these expected rate cuts, the U.S. economy is projected to grow 2.5% in 2024, up from 2% expectation.
With the unemployment rate holding steady around 4.3% through 2026, inflation, while easing, is expected to stay above 2% until 2026, with wage growth remaining above 3% to 3.5%.
The likelihood of recession remains low with a 30% probability.
Tom, I see this story.
Then I see the other stories talking about American household debt surge in the recent years and we're challenging consumer refinancing demand surge on mortgage rates drop.
I see layoffs announced at multiple companies this summer.
What's going on with the economy?
Well, everything can be true at the same time, right?
It's like your dad just gave you a gold star for what's going on at school, but your mom's really upset about you and your sister won't talk to you.
All those things can be true at the same time.
That's kind of what's happening with the economy.
But I think there's some glimmers of hope and good news in here on housing.
So right now, the 30-year is six and a quarter to six and a half.
The banks have pulled back a little bit.
And if you've got good credit over $7.50, you can get a third-year fixed mortgage.
And there's a lot of people refying PBD from 775 to 7675.
So 7 and 3.8, 5.8, 3 quarters from last year.
They're actually getting a full point, point and a quarter of relief refying.
So that's why you see the headlines at refis are up.
So if you bought and you found a house to buy, you thought the price was good, it wasn't too overinflated, and you're not going to lose price depreciation on the home value, and you bought a year ago, right now you can be refying.
And that's good news for those Americans, really good news.
What's not good news yet is the home supply still hasn't caught up.
So there's not a lot of homes out there to buy.
And in many markets, the prices still seem a little inflated.
And a higher interest rates and a higher price home makes the payment higher.
However, the Fed, this story, Reuters, is talking about three-quarter points.
That is being floated by the banks.
There is going to be a quarter point in September.
The Fed has said it's going to be a quarter point.
If unemployment numbers in the jobs report are particularly bad, they may make that a half a point.
That's what some of the lead banks are saying.
Chase thinks that.
But nobody thinks, even though we're getting reports of layoffs right now, nobody thinks that that's going to happen.
So there's going to be a quarter point.
So that means if you're in a market where you could potentially purchase, if you think the value is there in the home, it's not too overpriced, you're probably going to see six and an eighth to six and a quarter in October right after the Fed drops the quarter point.
So that's a slightly good thing for the homebuyers.
However, there's not a whole lot of those because the rest of America is the household debt is now up again this quarter because of the inflation pinch and people are using credit cards and debt to pay for certain things and the inflation pinch is still there.
So you can see there's multiple things going on.
Certain industries are seeing layoffs.
Some markets are getting good news for people getting relief on refis and people that are able to in good markets are going to be able to purchase.
All those things are true at the same time against the backdrop of the stock market looked really good, but the average consumer right only is about a C plus B minus in terms of health.
So if you still feel it's kind of tight for you, you're not crazy, Adam.
Well, I'm just super happy.
We had a success story last week, a massive success story with my friend Vinny.
We remember what happened when the stock market basically tanked a thousand points in one day.
Vinny's been asking for two years repeatedly, when do I buy a house?
When do I buy a house?
And I said enough's enough in the chat.
I don't know if you can turn it up a little bit.
I go, enough with your stupid house, Vinny.
Today's the day to buy some stocks.
And for two years, we've had conversations about what it means to open up a Roth IRA.
What is even a retirement account?
What's a stock?
What's a bond?
What's an asset?
What is all this?
And finally, we sat down.
What did we do, Vinny?
Tell him, Vinny.
I got a Roth IRA and I put something in a high-yield interest thing.
And then I bought some sneakers on stocky.com.
There you did.
You know what you are, Nevin?
What?
You're an investor.
That's it.
For the first time in your life.
Why do you think I have a watch that has this?
Like, I have this key, the thing that it goes with your look.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
You're not a saver, Vinny.
Yeah, you're an investor.
Congratulations on becoming an investor.
Thank you.
And I think a lot of people basically have to take that into account where Vinny actually asked the question, and I'm just going to use a voice.
Should I buy a house today?
Like, you don't have a realtor.
You haven't located the house.
You don't know.
You might be sounding like Down syndrome.
Because that's kind of how I felt when you're like, should I just go buy a house today?
Like, I was drooling when I was asking you the question.
That's how you make me feel.
That's what you do.
That's the thing.
You want to feel there.
And then you make ends.
Like, just, I'm going to just go out there and make a, like, dumb.
Because walk me through what buying a house today would even look like.
Well, what do you mean?
Me and Tom have sat down multiple times.
That's where we already messed up.
Well, no, we sat down.
Buying a house would be like, you know, the pricing, the location, you know what I mean?
The interest rate.
I get insurance.
Yeah.
You were going to do it in one day is my point.
No, of course.
But in one day, you sat down, logged in, created your account.
Wow, you're an investor.
Five minutes, yeah.
Look at you now.
You're probably up a little bit because the market's up.
The point is this.
You're not going to be able to maybe buy a house right now.
Sorry.
Interest rate, supply, demand, I get it.
But you can always become an investor.
Congratulations on becoming an investor.
Okay, so that's the whole shtick was that.
That's great.
Awesome.
Well, I didn't know he was going there.
So I'm proud of you.
Yeah, and it's good that he's starting something.
Well, that's great.
But for everybody else that is in a position right now where you're wondering, do I get a place?
Do I not get a place?
What happens?
We had a call yesterday with Tom.
You were on the call.
We're making a few big purchases.
And when I say big purchases, I mean big purchases.
And we're looking at interest rates.
And while we're having a conversation, say, you know, if we get a, you know, a three-year and then later on we can go to a 10-year because if we do the three-year, the rates are coming down and we can refinance and go to a 10-year and then we can refinance and go to maybe a, all of these types of conversation are having right now with where the rates are at.
But the likelihood, everybody we talk to, everybody we talk to, everyone's saying the same thing.
Rates are coming down.
And it's going to be happening.
At what pace?
Who knows?
Yesterday there was a meeting in Chicago.
And that meeting yesterday at Chicago, they call it the DNC, right?
The Democratic National Convention.
And Steve Kerr spoke, okay?
And he gave a speech all the way at the end that's a shout at Trump.
You had Hillary Clinton that spoke.
And you had, what do you call it?
Joe Biden spoke.
AOC spoke, right?
All these guys spoke.
And a lot of the conversation was about the economy and all this other stuff.
And Joe Biden, when he was speaking, Rob, I don't know if you have it or not.
Joe Biden came in to give the speech and left, went to California for vacation is where he's at.
He's going to watch the entire thing from his family's house and he's going to watch the speech and all the stuff that's taking place at the DNC there.
Everybody consistently, all they did was edify Joe Biden, how great of a man he is, how great of a president he is.
The entire time, it was an edification for Joe Biden.
Rob, if you have one clip.
I send them a minute something, PBD, of all the cuts of his anger, his emotion.
If you have the one that he sent you with the minute cut of all of them.
It's on the Colin Roy.
I sent it to you, I think, today, Rob.
No, Rob, you just showed it.
There you go.
That's the one right there.
If you can show this clip to give us an idea of what the, you don't, it'll save you 50 minutes, but go ahead.
Women are now without electrical, without not allowed, not without electro, electoral.
Border encounters have dropped over 50%.
Lie.
In fact, there are fewer border costs in the day than when Donald Trump left office.
That's lie.
Capital.
Donald Trump said, and I quote, there are very fine people on both sides.
My God.
Two lies.
That's what he said.
That is what he said and what he meant.
Oh, from his own chief of staff, Forest Star General John Kelly, that Trump went in Europe would not go to the grave sites in one of the, in France, lie, I think.
Grave service members who gave their lives to this country.
He called them suckers and losers.
Another lie.
Who in the hell does he think he is?
Who does he think he is?
Wow, geez.
Look at him.
He has no idea what he's mad about.
They're the ones we're going to bring back.
That guy's.
What?
That's not hyperbole.
It's because Medicare no longer has to pay those exorbitant prices to the big farmers, Republicans, Democrats.
Adams caller.
We saved democracy in 2020, and now we must save it again in 2024.
You know, we have a thousand trillion, we have a thousand billionaires.
He's not finished.
He's probably seen a bloodbath.
Another lie.
If he loses in his words.
How many lies.
Okay.
Okay, guys.
Lie after lie.
But let's just be honest, PBD.
He spoke on the first day of the Democratic National Convention.
The sitting president spoke on the first night.
That is the most humiliating thing.
You don't let that guy talk first.
I mean, I know why they're doing it, but you nailed it, PBD.
Right when it was done, he got in the plane and got on Air Force One, flew to California for another vacation, which now this is going to make, if he stays till Sunday, 366 days in four years that he's been on vacation.
That's like 41% of his entire presidency has been on vacation.
And then everybody wonders why the country is in the position that we're in.
Okay.
And like, by the way, just a quick glimpse, PBD.
The DNC, people were wearing masks by the thousands, people outside.
That tells you exactly what you need to know about these people.
There are protests outside.
Democrats protesting Democrats, their leadership about Israel and Hamas and all that stuff.
Hillary Clinton went up there and said that Kamalik cares about children and families.
Meanwhile, outside, they had a mobile booth.
Rob, you have the photo of the booth.
Plant Parenthood, Great River, sent a mobile health center and offered reproductive services on Monday and Tuesday.
Medication abortions were available on both days, with vasectomies being exclusively offered on Monday.
Like, that's if that's not the Democrat Party in a nutshell, mask, abortions, vasectomies.
They don't want to like look, look at this thing.
This thing was outside, PBD.
You could go in there and have everything cut off and have an abortion.
Is that absolutely insane?
It was kind of confusing to me because at the DNC, you know, of all these Democrat men, you're offering a vasectomy to a guy who has no balls in the first place.
Exactly.
You see what I'm saying?
And you know what's messed up?
PB, I don't know if you saw this.
They bring this guy on stage with ALS in a wheelchair and they just put a mic in his face and have him talk.
And his wife was like, Yeah, this is what he just said.
Did you see it?
That was awkward.
It was very awkward.
Honestly, it's disturbing to play for a few seconds, Rob.
I mean, if he was trying to say something.
In 2008, we met while working on the Obama-Biden campaign.
Okay, like, by the way, are they supposed to be friends?
No, no, no, no.
That's his wife.
That's his wife.
And by the way, how about that?
No, but here's the thing, though.
Couldn't they just have prepared that speech for him?
They're just, that's the Democrat.
They're trying to make you feel bad for people, and that's ridiculous.
That's them in a nutshell.
So, Rob, play the Steve Kerr clip.
Let's just react to some of this stuff, and then we'll give our thoughts on the entire thing.
Go ahead.
Here's Steve Kerr.
This nation doesn't come from any one of us, but from each of us doing our part to build a more perfect union.
That vision is what this campaign is all about.
It's why I'm here tonight.
And it's why I'll be getting out every day to help people get out and vote on November 5th and elect Kamala Harris and Tim Walz as the next president and vice president of the United States.
Wait for it.
And after the results are tallied that night, we can, in the words of the great Steph Curry, we can tell Donald Trump night and night.
What do they have to do?
The DNC, to have a guy like that, I think he's educated, Pat.
He's not a stupid guy.
For him to go up there and he knows what this administration is about, what Kamala is, who she isn't, what she is going to do, and what she's not going to do.
What makes someone like that go up there and basically pitch for what they did?
Remember, this is democracy.
This is what Joe Biden said yesterday.
Democracy has prevailed.
Democracy has delivered.
And now democracy must be preserved.
The democracy is out the window, especially with this campaign.
They forced the sitting president out, and he didn't go easy.
He was scratching and clung.
He didn't want to leave.
His wife didn't want him to leave.
His crackhead son didn't want him to leave.
This is the party of democracy.
What makes somebody like Steve Kerr, who's not dumb, PBD, go up there and say some stuff?
Well, first of all, let me tell you this.
That guy crushed it.
I thought he did a phenomenal job.
The best speaker out of all of them.
I thought he crushed it.
I thought he did a phenomenal job.
And I thought he could have a career if he chooses to get out of NBA.
He would actually make one hell of a Democratic candidate for the left.
And you have to realize he is very close to Popovich.
Popovich is a hardcore, hardcore guy on the left.
Popovich played the role of a liberal to him.
And what's interesting with him is his father was a teacher and was the former president back in the days.
If you can pull this up in 1984, Malcolm Kerr was Steve Kerr's father.
Malcolm Kerr was a teacher back in the days, and he was teaching in Lebanon, if I'm not mistaken.
He was born and raised in Lebanon, and he served as the president of American University of Beirut from 1982 until 1984 when a jihadi terrorist killed him and shot him twice in the head and he died.
That is Steve Kerr's father.
That kind of a once-in-a-lifetime experience does something to you.
And his dad was a, I believe politically, he was on the left.
And if I'm not mistaken.
I don't know he was Middle East, but he's born in Beirut, the father.
I mean, Steve Kerr is Middle Eastern.
So part of it, what he's doing, he's got some influence.
I thought he did good.
I thought the one thing, Rob, if you go to YouTube, just to kind of see the level of interest people have, go to YouTube and go to Fox News.
Okay.
YouTube Fox News.
Click on that right there and then go to videos where you can see all the recent videos.
Okay, zoom in a little bit so the audience can see it.
Okay, Tommy Lauren, 25 minutes ago, 13,000 views.
Okay.
Fox and Friends, one hour ago, 90,000 views.
Trump campaign, tears, 30,000 views.
The next one, 94,000 views.
Cyrus, new, 31,000 views three hours ago.
Vivek, 101,000 views four hours ago.
9,100 views.
I don't even know who's speaking.
Oh, Whitmer.
Low energy JD Vance, 76,000 views.
Go to the next one.
Go to the next one.
Keep going, keep going, keep going.
And then look at Hillary Clinton.
Guys, 10 hours ago, 13,000 views.
No one gives a shit what she has.
Go to Twitter, by the way.
Go on Twitter.
Go on X and go to the poll I ran.
So I ran this poll yesterday.
We were sitting on together.
At 4 p.m. I don't know what time it was, but I ran a poll Zoom in, and I said, who's more unlikable?
Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, or Nikki Haley?
Wow.
I mean, listen, Kamala, you got to give her super competitive, right?
She's trying to win.
She's trying to win.
5.5% behind Hillary.
And then Nikki Haley, actually, she can walk away having some respect and some dignity for getting 16.5 points.
Bronze medal.
Going up against those two.
It's respect.
But Hillary, the goat, hands down the GOAT for the most unlikable candidate in the history of man ever.
No, no, seriously, I'm not, I'm not big time.
She's unlikable.
So she thought Kamala was going to come in first place there.
But it's only 6%.
It's not like she's that hard.
That's not within the margin of error.
Trust me, you give her four years as a president, she will completely surpass Hillary Clinton.
Trust me.
I will say this about Hillary.
As far as likability goes, I can understand that.
As far as credibility goes, as far as resume, forget about who you like or don't like.
Oh, yeah.
Hillary Clinton is more established.
Letting soldiers die in Benghazi.
Yeah, I mean, it's her resume.
She was her server in the basement, her illegal activities, the deaths and her funeral.
Vinny Vinny, you can say all that, but Hillary did actually do something.
No, I agree.
Right.
She was a senator.
She was a secretary of state.
And when you compare that to Kamala Harris, who inherited a Senate seat that was manipulated for her in California, and as a junior senator gets called up to the major leagues after she completely fumbles a political campaign to be president, and suddenly she finds herself drafted to be VP, what does her resume look like?
No, no, I agree 100%, but when people talk about the resume, actually look at Hillary's resume.
Yes, she knows how to do the job, but what does she do at the job?
That's the problem.
Go back to the DNC.
She was a true believer in healthcare reform.
Look, I'm not going to ever vote for her ever, ever, ever.
And you can go down that the negatives on Hillary.
But what I'm saying is you look at the political resume of somebody who's actually done something in the arena.
Yeah, big time.
And this outfit.
Good lord.
Good lord.
Hillary, a kindergartner.
And by the way, by the way, that outfit, I'm telling you guys right now, nothing turns me on more than like a couch gutted, and you just put the couch cover on her.
That is hot.
I don't know what you think is hot, Rob.
Listen, I don't know if you guys just saw what just happened in the last one minute.
Vinny unified Adam and Tom.
Vinny brought Adam and Tom together.
This issue of Hillary.
Isn't that awesome?
Tom is officially the spokesperson of Hillary on this podcast.
Moving forward, Tom's a spokesperson when it comes down to this.
But let's go back to the DNC.
So think about dynamics.
To me, it's all about dynamics.
I've ran a lot of events over the years, and the events when you run, and it's always where you know the sensitive issues.
This guy doesn't get along with that guy.
That guy did this.
They're going through this.
They were the best last year, but they're the lowest this year.
It was all about them.
But there were some moments at this event where, you know, one guy's like, well, last year I saw this person's face.
They were so angry because they didn't win MVP.
I'm like, they're not winning it again this year.
It was such an awkward thing.
But think you're Obama.
Okay.
First go from the Obama's lens.
Obamas are sitting there having to hear people compare Kamala to Obama.
Do you know what that does to Obama?
Do you know Obama is sitting there saying, shut the Obama saying internally, right?
Yeah.
Danny, is this Pritzker saying that?
Play this clip real quick, Rob.
To nominate somebody who is the most experienced person for the job, Kamala Harris, and is going to make history, the first woman president, the first African-American president, the first, she's not AAPI president.
And I think someone with her perspective and life experience, being in the Oval Office, is going to uplift the entire country.
Honestly, I don't think we've seen anything like this in my lifetime.
Maybe Barack Obama getting elected, which wasn't amazing.
By the way, that right there.
No, no, no.
Go back again and pull it up.
Let him do it again.
Maybe, maybe.
Let him do it again.
Watch this.
Press that play.
Press play.
Like this.
Maybe Barack Obama getting elected, which wasn't amazing.
You know why I like saying that?
You know why I like saying that?
They're both from Chicago.
He's taking a shot at Barack.
No one even knows it.
He's just kind of.
Yeah.
And he's like, look, you guys chose her instead of me.
No problem.
I'm going to edify Kamala in ways to tell her she's right in front of your face.
And you notice what he said?
He goes, she would be the first female African-American president.
That is blatantly false.
She's Indian and Jamaican.
She'd be the first Jamaican Indian, not African-American.
I don't know why they keep saying that.
Barack Obama's African-American, correct?
His family's from Africa.
This guy's face is just a little bit of a mess.
And then when you go through it and you think about Pelosi, you think about in the room.
Okay, you got Biden.
You know, Jill doesn't want to be in that room because you know they kicked out her husband.
So they want to talk to nobody.
And you know, on stage, Joe has to keep saying Kamala and I, Kamala and I, Kamala and I, Kamala and I.
And she just goes, oh, man, she's so, thank you, Joe.
Oh, my God.
And by the way, there was a scene with Waltz's wife, which is probably the best.
It's at the end of Joe Biden's speech when he's speaking and they zoom in on her.
You know what her look is like?
I wish there was, I don't know if anybody caught this or not.
Her look is like, get me the f ⁇ out of here right now.
The look that she had on her face.
And then last but not least, you have the Clintons that are sitting there.
And the Clintons that are sitting there, Clintons are saying, look, guys, you know, we were president and I'm Hillary Clinton.
I should have been president.
Like, we are the ones that run this whole thing here.
It is so competitive behind closed doors.
Okay.
However, as much shit as we want to talk, as much shit as we want to talk, let me tell you what they can't say.
You ready?
Every Democratic president was at the DNC.
Yes.
You know what Republicans can't say?
Can't say the same thing.
No, a bunch of them.
Bush wasn't there.
No way.
You got the other guys weren't there.
And so that is the part where they're going to be able to, as much as we may not get along and all this other stuff that you guys can write about, at least we showed up and we're unified to beat you.
Yep.
And I don't know if the right can say that.
The MAGA can say that.
I don't know if the right can say that.
I agree.
And again, I always give credit where credit's due.
You have to give them credit because, I mean, look at they have made Kamala Harris in this last, well, guys, how long has it been till he dropped out, Adam?
How long till Joe stepped down?
Six weeks.
Six weeks.
She is, they're making her look-ish like the savior of the world.
It is amazing.
Never underestimate the power of legacy media.
I was in arguments yesterday with my cousins in a group chat.
They're like, she's going to, and she's going to, I go, guys, she's been sitting next to this guy for four years.
Why couldn't she look at Joe and say, hey, Joe, fix this, do that, help this?
It's such, it's insane to watch, but you got to give them credit, Tom.
You have to.
Well, I have two thoughts here.
And the first thought is what really was going on last night.
We have to look at it as America.
And I respect the individuals, but I'm going to talk about the actions.
So they knew that Joe Biden was suffering and that he was not capable of governing.
And so they chose just not to tell the Americans about it.
And they chose to keep him, quote unquote, in the basement until such time to replace him.
Number one.
Number two, it is pretty ironic and pathetic to go out and say you're trying to save democracy when they would not let capable members of their own party run in an open primary.
If they had said last November, Joe's not going to run again, they knew that last November.
They absolutely knew it.
They didn't want an open primary.
They would have had a primary.
They would have had debates on stage, multiple candidates, some that fumble, some that stumble, some that rise to the top.
They didn't want that.
They kept him there.
So that's called democracy.
Instead, they just let him not show up and have, you know, all the mail-in ballots.
So it was like watching Vladimir Putin do 48 state primaries.
Oh, you won again, sir.
No opponents.
And that's how Biden went through the primaries.
Well, that happens.
And then they come back and say they're defending democracy when they basically hand select Kamala when they had no other choices because they can't not select the vice president.
If she's good enough for a heartbeat from the presidency, why isn't she good enough to run for president?
Yeah.
And so I felt like...
Very good point.
Yeah.
I felt like this was great strategy, though, Tom.
It was a great strategy to not have a primary.
And by the way, you know, the strategy worked, but what, that's my first point.
The strategy worked and that's what they did.
And they're not defenders of democracy.
They found a strategy around it.
And the rest of last night was basically glossing over the coup.
And you could see it in the eyes of the other people.
You could see it there.
And remember, actually, I have a third point.
Obama was the last one to endorse.
And there were leaks that came out, including a comment by Carville that he held his tongue and he kind of pulled it back in that said, I know that Barack was not exactly surprised.
Well, let me say this again.
My understanding is that he was, he was the, it took him a while to get there.
Remember, Carville pulled it back in.
What he was about to say was that Obama was not in favor of the pick.
Yeah.
And you know what this reminded me of?
You guys remember when they cheated Bernie Sanders and the camera goes and burned?
South Carolina switched.
Exactly.
And I just felt that vibe.
And you know what I've been hearing, PBD, the rumors that I've been hearing is that if for some reason Joe Biden can't continue and he steps down or whatever, whatever happens, right?
I can't, I can't do it.
They vote against she becomes the first Jamaican Indian president.
That would help her out so much because you'll never get rid of a female first-time president if she's actually sitting in office.
Did you hear about that, Tom?
Well, yeah, it's called the incumbency effect.
And the incumbency effect, they say, is worth, you know, at least four points in this current election.
The incumbency effect, that if she was president, then she would be able to say, although she doesn't have much time, to say she goes on an international trip.
She appears, she does a speech in front of Congress.
She appears presidential, and that's good for about four points.
And I mean, and that's a great question.
Yeah, if you want to talk about tactics, he's on the, yo, great point.
He's in vacation in California.
Who knows?
He falls, gets bitten by a shark.
Well, fully agree with what PBD had to say about being unified in public, but don't look now at Brace for Impact.
Kamala Harris is now the favorite to become the president of the United States.
The full-on favorite.
I'm sure you can find the odds on Vegas.
And that's what I track.
And to me, that is shocking.
Because if we just go back a month in time when Biden completely stumbled, the odds were maybe 55, 45 Trump.
The odds skyrocketed towards Trump, almost towards 70%.
We were not sure what was happening with the Democratic Party.
And, you know, I compared it to them basically hitting the iceberg on the Titanic.
If you told me a month ago after Trump got shot, after Biden's failure to even communicate, after having zero clue who's going to be the president, that a month later, the Democrats would be favored to win the election, I'd say, get the hell out of here.
That is insane.
But that's exactly what's going on.
So we can mock people.
We could basically state your case.
I'm with you.
But unless you're convincing those independents, you're just screaming into the wind.
So hold on, Vin.
So in my opinion, they're only making things worse by, look, I've said loudly and proudly, there's no way I'm voting for Kamala.
I'm either going with Trump or RFK.
And if it's not a wasted vote on RFK, I'm going with Trump.
You know, this is the whole conversation of being red-pilled and blue-pilled.
But nobody does a better job of basically putting all the drama in the past and just coalescing around a candidate.
You know, there was a head coach for the New York Jets.
I know you're a Giants guy.
Do you remember there was a coach of the New York Jets?
His name was Herm Edwards.
Of course.
Remember Herm?
His most famous speech was the win speech.
And he basically said, you play to win the game.
It doesn't matter what you do.
They don't remember what happened in the game.
They remember the final score on the scoreboard.
You play to win the game.
And what the Democrats are doing is they're putting lipstick on a pig.
They're parading out Kamala as if she deserves to be this nominee.
By the way, her approval ratings, if you want to just look at her approval ratings, they were July 4th, minus 17, less than Trump.
Right now, they're minus two, their approval rating.
Trump held steady at basically nine or ten.
So we can criticize and make fun of the DNC all you want, but every single person, whether it's Barack Obama, whether it's Clinton, whether it's Hillary Clinton, whether it's Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, AO freaking C shows up and gives their speech.
At the RNC, which I think they had a great RNC, I think they were completely aligned.
There was no George Bush.
There was no Jeb Bush.
There was no people that basically were the rhinos or the Lincoln Project people.
They don't want them there.
The Cheneys of the world.
So if you ask yourself, how the hell do these absolute buffoons who stand for nothing beat the Republicans, who I can argue stand for a lot more for where America is concerned?
Because they don't care.
They have three letters that they care about, and that's WIN, and they're playing to win the game despite how horribly they should lose.
So let me go to the next story.
And again, you can, whatever you wanted to ask me, you can ask me in this next story.
So far-right influencers turn against Trump campaign.
Okay, this is leading to that story because this is the part where they have to be paying very close attention to.
So influencers like Nick Fuentes, Laura Loomer, Candace Owens are turning against Donald Trump's campaign, accusing it of being too soft and veering away from hard-right positions that energize his base in 2016.
Fuentes claimed Trump's campaign was headed for a catastrophic loss while Loomer criticized his weak surrogates.
And Owens described the situation as a mega civil war.
These influencers who previously boosted Trump's online presence are now threatening a digital war against the campaign unless it shifts further right.
Fuentes has urged his followers to adopt guerrilla tactics, including mass appearances at Trump rallies and withholding their votes to pressure the campaign into stop pandering to independence, the backlash from far-right figures who have millions of followers highlight a new vulnerability in Trump's base as his campaign struggles with slumping poll numbers.
Adam, your thoughts on this?
Well, here's the problem that, and I've interviewed Nick Fuentes.
We've obviously had Candace here.
We can go down the list of people we've spoken to.
And this kind of goes back to my previous point about you're never going to have an ideal candidate.
You're never going to agree with somebody 100%.
So we just saw the Reagan movie, right, with our friend Dennis Quaid.
There was one quote that stuck out to me about the Reagan movie.
And it was arguably one of Reagan's most powerful quotes that people don't talk about.
People talk about the quote, you know, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down the wall.
We all know that.
And then, you know, the scariest things you could ever hear are from I'm the government.
I'm coming to help.
I'm here to help.
But actually, the most powerful thing that Ronald Reagan has ever said, and this is something that you should think about if you're trying to win elections, and it's the following: a person who agrees with you 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor.
Think about that for a second.
80% agreeance.
They're your ally.
They're your friend.
They're not your enemy.
And what happens is, whether it's the Candace's of the world, whether it's the Nick Fuentes in the world, they think that Donald Trump or the MAGA party, the American First Party, should do everything that they say because that's how they feel.
That's what's going on.
It doesn't work that way.
And you think that Joe Biden and AOC are 100% aligned?
Not at all.
But they're willing to say, you know what?
I don't agree with you on that.
I don't give that.
But we have a common enemy, and that's Donald Trump, whatever it is.
We're going to get together.
We're going to do this thing.
What happens is when you're so, so tethered to your principles and there's zero exception of what you'll make in between, there's no room for daylight.
So you have Nick Fuentes, who has been one of Trump's biggest allies.
Candace Owens, Trump's biggest allies.
Who was the other person that you said?
Laura Loomer.
Laura Loomer, who I've met with, we spoke with, I hosted a debate with her against Dave Smith.
I've never seen a more, in a positive way, delusional Donald Trump advocate.
But by the way, she is very pro-Israel.
And she's critical that Trump isn't doing enough.
And then Nick Fuentes and Candace, if you haven't seen her, not exactly pro-Israel these days.
So you have these people who are completely in MAGA world.
70, 80, 90% agreeance with MAGA, America First.
Yet now they're basically saying, no, we're out, we're off the ship.
So what's your other choice?
It's a binary option.
So you're not going to vote for Trump?
You're going to have all your groipers or all your people that are a part of your camp not vote for Trump.
Tell me how that serves you, getting Kamala elected.
It makes no sense to me.
So all you're going to do is fight an in-war civil war within yourselves and then just allow Kamala Harris to win the White House because you're not 100% aligned with Trump.
I think it is a horrible, short-sighted strategy.
So because I was going to ask you when you were talking about earlier, Adam, about the Democrats and what they're doing.
And Tom, we talked about their tactics.
Paul, I want to ask you a question and you, Tom.
So the Republicans have what?
Fox News and X, correct?
Spaces, whatever, whatever.
The Democrats have all mainstream legacy media: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, local news, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, you name it.
If you were Trump's campaign manager, what because this is what this is how the rules are set up.
This is, you're not going to change that.
Because the messaging, Adam, the reason that she's up is because she's everywhere.
Every channel you see is Kamala, Fox, you see Trump and Elon talk to him.
What would you do as a campaign manager right now, PBD, to turn this whole thing around for Trump?
Because obviously, the numbers aren't lying.
Influencers are turning.
You know what I mean?
He's only really out there in two spots.
And what, Truth Social?
What would be a tactic to get him out there more to kind of like quell that?
Okay, sir.
So let's go through a couple things here.
One, pull up Reuters' report here: party affiliation among Muslims.
Okay.
So let's look at this here.
Muslims on how they vote.
Ready?
17% Republican, 21% no-leaning.
62% Muslims are still going to vote for Democrats.
Okay.
So you look at this and why are they going to vote for Democrats?
Because Free Palestine and you saw the 100,000 people in the streets, whatever the amount of people were.
I don't want to say the number.
I read 100,000, but it was a lot of people in the streets of Chicago, you know, protesting outside.
By the way, in Milwaukee, nobody boarded up businesses.
In Chicago, go look at how many businesses were boarding up their business just to say we are doing it just in case riots, protesting take place.
Okay.
So guess what?
When you look at that data with Muslims, what do you notice?
You notice what?
You notice a big percentage of them are not going to vote for Trump.
Tell me what Muslims are coming out here right now trying to campaign for Trump.
Who?
I haven't seen it.
Who's going out there saying we're voting for Trump?
Trust me, I've seen them.
We have them in our company.
Guys who are Muslims who will be voting for Trump.
They're part of the 17%.
But is that 62% moving dramatically?
So what do you want Trump to do?
Do you want Trump to sit there?
So as a campaign manager, the first thing we would do is who do we, who are we not going to win at all?
Like, forget about women.
No matter what we, no, no, he has to.
That's a, who are we not going to win no matter what we do?
You can never please them.
You think Trump can really please the Muslims?
You think Trump can really please Muslims?
Yeah, right now.
Let me ask you a question.
What does he have to do to please Muslims?
Right now?
Yeah.
Give me the Muslim vote.
Change his Jewish position.
Completely position.
Completely denounce Israel and everything that Israel does.
Okay, so let's go.
That is the only way.
I think that's the only way.
Okay, perfect.
So if he does that, what happens?
I mean, obviously the goal is a Jewish vote.
Hang on, it's like a teeter-totter.
You lose the Jewish vote, but you gain the Muslim vote.
Okay, what is the...
Some of it.
Some of them may not pull it.
Now, let me ask you a question.
Pull up, Rob.
How much money Muslims give to their political campaign?
How much money do they contribute to their political party?
Okay.
How much money do they contribute to their political party?
Do you actually have the number?
Like, if you'd be able to pull it up, like, because some people, like total contribution to political party by religion.
Let's see if we have it.
By religion.
Does that show up, Arduino?
I want to know money.
I want exact amount of money being given.
Source of funds.
And what I'm looking for is United Methodist Church.
Okay, so that's open secrets is talking about churches.
Party affiliation by vote.
No, I don't want party affiliation.
I want exact dollar amount.
Okay.
I want exact dollar amount.
If you were to put the $2 amounts between the Muslims and Jews, who do you think gives more?
Jewish people.
Okay, and it's not even close.
By the way, do you know 17% of billionaires in America are Jewish?
17%.
17%.
They are 0.2% of the population, but they are 17% of billionaires.
In other words, one out of every six billionaire is Jewish.
Okay?
So guess how they negotiate with their money and their power?
Okay, that's what they do.
That's how they negotiate.
So he has to choose between the two.
And he realizes a lot of these guys that are coming out saying free Palestine, free Palestine, free Palestine, free Palestine.
You can do your best to try to bring up Free Palestine.
But then if you play that card and you try to play the card that is pro-Jewish, guess what you lose?
Guess what you lose if you try to do both?
You lose both.
Everybody.
Yeah, so guess who experienced that?
You know who lost both?
Biden lost both.
Biden lost both.
And then Jews are like, look, Bill Ackman, listen, I'm out of here.
Okay, Ken Griffin, I'm out of here.
Some of these things that you guys are doing, I'm out of here.
I'm not going to be, is that the pro-Israel or pro- Okay, right there, pro-Israel PAC, 8.7 million.
Wow.
You got the pro-Arab PAC, $97,000.
And that's 2020 cycle, which, by the way, long term, if Muslims truly want to compete, they can sit there and say whatever they want.
You guys got to get your folks to get better at business, to make more money and move up in the business world, in the business world, because that's what Jews do.
That's what they do.
So now, that choice.
Hey, all the people that are free Palestine and they're Muslims, you're not going to win them over.
Okay, you are not going to win them over.
Here on this side, you can't win them over.
Some of them even that were former Democrats that are influencers that can come back and vote for you.
Let's go talk to those guys.
Next, when it comes down to this, next part is independent.
Let's make a list of the top 10 most influential independent voters, independent and libertarian voters.
Who are the top 10 most influential, independent, and libertarian voters?
Peter Thiel.
Okay.
Brings money, brings heat, and a lot of people follow him.
And some people say that Peter Thiel brought JD Vance, right?
Some people say Peter Thiel brought JD Vance, and that's his candidate.
Okay, so guess what?
That means Peter Thiel does have some influence on the inside.
Fine, Peter Thiel was on what podcast just last week?
He was on Rogan.
He was on Rogan last week.
Rogan is at the top of the list of independents that you probably want to be able to do.
I disagree.
I disagree.
I think there's one person above Rogan.
Ilan.
No, no, no.
It's not even that space.
I think in this context, it's who they respond to.
Like Rogan responds to RFK, not the other way around.
I think they need to go get RFK.
I think somehow, somewhere, you got to go get a powerful job to RFK, and you got to recruit them over.
I agree.
And whether that's going to happen or not, I don't know if it's going to happen.
But if you go get an RFK, then who do you get?
You go get the biggest crypto voice that's out there, whoever it is.
And I'm talking massive, massive crypto voice that you got to go get out there because that's a completely different political party.
But it's a strategy of me putting the top 10 independents one by one by one.
I'm calling them and I'm asking who's got the most.
It's a matchup system you're using.
What the matchup system is, hey, who's got the closest relationship with RFK?
Would you mind flying out and having a meeting with them?
I'll take care of it.
Let me go have a meeting with them.
Who's got the best relation with such and such?
Don't worry about it.
I'm meeting with them.
Who's got the best relationship?
You have to go play the matchup system and send the best people to go out there and negotiate on your behalf.
You have to do that.
And I don't know if it's happening right now.
By the way, the chart that you showed up, Vegas, Rob, go back to that chart that Adam was talking about all the way.
Yeah, look at that.
Kamala Harris.
First place, presidential.
Yeah, Kamala, she's number one.
Trump's number two.
That's the presidential race.
That's official, by the way.
This is no longer like that conversation is not being had.
In regards to these influencers, the far-right influencers, you know, Candace Owens, Nick Fontes, Laurel Loomer, Dan Bulzerian Juada had on that even he cannot stand Israel.
Like to him, he thinks the world's a better place without Israel even being in existence.
Like his position was extreme, extreme, extreme.
Which one is this, Rob?
The clip?
This is where he talks about Israel's involvement in 9-11, JFK's assassination, and others.
Okay, so this is very aligned with what Candace was saying.
So maybe play this clip and then let's go to Candace's clip.
They've done so many things that would constitute an act of war against us.
I mean, USS Liberty, Lebanon Affair, I mean, it can go on and on and on and on and on.
But I think they knew about 9-11.
I think they had JFK assassinated.
The first thing that he wanted to do right before he died was make APAC a foreign entity and not allow them to have nukes.
And then all of a sudden, this fucking guy's dead and Jack Ruby, who is Jack Rubenstein.
I mean, it's just like, and then you just, I don't know, man, I can't ignore all the shit that they've done.
They sold their secrets.
Netanyahu lied to us about weapons of mass destruction.
We fought all these fucking wars.
My friends have died over there.
Like, you know, and Rob, you can probably just go to Candace.
Watch the level of alignment.
Go to Candace.
Play this clip.
So we've got this friend and ally, and we're not allowed to ask questions about JFK's shooting or the USS Liberty.
Yeah.
The masada there on the day that JFK was shot.
The arguments that he was having in the days preceding with their prime minister.
Still classified.
Okay, we're never here to know what they were arguing about.
And then Jacob Rubinstein shoots the guy who said he didn't shoot the guy.
Do you have a question about that?
Can you send my don't come at me?
Don't even like, I don't even want to hear questions.
We're not allowed to ask about, even speak about the USS Liberty.
The fact that, like, after October 7th, they jammed through a bill in Congress, okay?
And they were like, we must have an October 7th day of remembrance in school.
Kids must learn about this in school.
And we can't get one for the USS Liberty.
Rob, play the next clip of Candace as well.
This one, right?
Adam, you have to stop hollering on a list.
Basically, every person who speaks about Israel has to basically say a statement that's like, you know, I don't want to get killed.
Like, like, literally, you know, speaking about people are like, Candace, beef up your security.
That's not fucking normal.
It's not normal that people have to think about their security because, and by the way, so no, but then the way that you get comfortable with it is you're like, uh, well, you know, they shot JFK in an open car.
So there's not, I mean, just in president.
I mean, obviously, in my opinion, you watch the podcast.
You're hearing some of the stuff.
And by the way, just so you know, I listen to most of her Twitter.
What do you call it?
I watch the spaces, meet her.
Spaces that she did with Dave Smith and with Daniel.
And the Jewish gods, I listened to it.
I listened to the arguments.
Adam.
Well, let's just take Dan and Candace and kind of treat them separately because I don't know how aligned they are other than they certainly don't seem to be fans of Israel.
So I have a lot more respect for Candace than I do Dan because this is somebody, whether you agree with her or not, has at least studied topics and is at least known for certain topics.
Geopolitics, not exactly her forte.
I would say she's better at domestic.
You know, Dan Bilzerian, you know, it was nice of him to take time out of one of his orgies and gangbangs to weigh in on Gaza-Israel dynamics.
I'm sure he's very well versed at this.
You know, you asked him at one point, hey, you read a lot?
You read a lot of books?
He's like, no, not at all.
So my assumption is he's going completely irrational, emotional, and he's just parroting whatever somebody told him.
And clearly, there's some things that are going on here, whether it's a JFK assassination, whether it's the Bolshevik revolution, whether it's the USS Liberty that we can discuss, that these are now talking points where, of course, it's the Jews.
All right.
Well, you know, where am I going with all this?
You know, you wrote a book, Choose Your Enemies Wisely.
So, you know, there's also another phrase, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
No, not my enemy.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
So, nice, man.
I love you.
So, when you look at who U.S.'s greatest allies are, remove complete emotion and how you feel about certain countries some type of way.
Who are U.S.'s top 10 allies?
You could even probably Google this.
So, without even having an exact list, I'll tell you exactly who it is.
It's the UK, it's Canada, it's Australia, basically, people part of the Queens from the Queen of England, Canada.
Then, you have the EU countries, you have Germany, France, you have the Netherlands, then you have Japan, South Korea, Israel, rounding out the top 10.
Now, you can pick who's where, what's who, where's what.
Okay, so Israel's in the top 10.
This shows Israel's number one.
So, what I do is this, I say, all right, those are my allies.
How close am I to each of my allies?
Well, you know, UK, all right, cool, we're there.
They have a quote-unquote special relationship.
Israel, we get that.
Germany, what have you?
But then you have to make a list of who your enemies are.
And we've had the last same four enemies for decades now.
Who are the four enemies that like they have not changed in decades?
It's the same countries.
You have Iran, you have Russia, you have China, and then you have North Korea.
Those are the big four.
But then, after that, here's what's important for people to understand: there's a whole host of countries that are on our enemies list that we are not aligned with, that we are not friends with, that we're not looking to become friends with.
Who are these countries?
Well, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, a whole host of African countries.
And part of that list is the Palestinian territories.
They're not our allies.
You know, any group out there that is shouting death to America, death to Israel, they're not our friends.
So here's what's interesting about allies.
They're not always your allies.
And the trust level moves.
So it's interesting to me that I just read the top 10 list.
Japan, Germany, Italy, the UK, also Spain.
Each one of these countries, you know what we've done with?
We've gone to full-on war against.
We were just fighting Germany 70 years ago against the Nazis.
We were just fighting Imperial Japanese, and now they're our allies.
We went to war against Spain in the American Spanish War.
Dude, we got our independence from the UK.
So to say, yes, we've had checkered pasts with our allies would be an understatement.
So now we want to bring up Israel.
Okay, what have they done?
What are they doing for us?
Well, we've actually never been to war with them.
Now, if you want to go to the narrative like, well, they're taking over the United States.
Well, just go to opensecrets.org.
You can see how much AIPAC and every country basically contribute to the United States.
But what type of shared interests do we have with Israel?
So the concept that Dan Bilzerian, who just fresh out of banging three chicks, decided to weigh in on Israel-Gaza relations, it just shows that he has no clue what's going on out there.
So if you want to choose your enemies wisely, so okay, in order for Israel to be an enemy, which you're claiming, Dan Bilzerian, that means Iran, the Islamic Republic, is now your friend.
That means you're advocating for the Houthis, the Hezbollah, the Hamas.
So it's a very slippery slope when you start going down the path of this group who is my ally should be my enemy.
What happens to your actual enemies?
So Dan is completely misinformed.
Now, Candace, real quick, I think this is a complete emotional, nonsensical, illogical, irrational response to what happened with Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire.
Because besides Israel, think about it for a second.
You know, we just talked about Reagan and 80%.
Ben and Candace are very aligned.
They're conservatives.
They believe in God.
They believe in traditional family values.
You can go down the list, boom, And you can notice the reason why they actually aligned in the first place.
But this one issue drove such a wedge, and now they're enemies.
And we've seen countrymen become enemies before, and that's why they have civil wars.
So what's happening right now is that her emotions are getting the best of her.
And my question to Candace, who I think is a very logical actor who is completely acting illogically, is where do you want to go from here?
How many allies, friends, do you want to distance yourself from?
Because we already know that she has no friend of the woke left, the progressive.
80% of black people don't even like Candace.
I actually was a fan of Candace.
I think she hit the nail on the head with BLM, with feminism, with COVID, a lot of stuff.
But then what happens is there's a difference between having brains and having hubris.
And hubris is having excessive pride.
And everything I say turns to gold.
Well, not really.
Because what happens is you basically fractured the conservative party because the Charlie Kirks of the world, the Ben Shapiros of the world, they're actually overwhelmingly pro-Israel.
So now Candace is going to find her point in who's her audience now?
Because she's abandoned the left.
She's abandoned the moderate.
She's abandoned the conservatives.
She's going to find herself in a very weird void where she's now the new Kanye befriending Nick Fuentes, who, by the way, doesn't like black people, Candace.
And you're going to find yourself basically aligning with the Islamists who also are not a fan of Christianity.
So I feel like she's completely lost her way.
And my hope for Candace, who I have respect for, is that she can find her way and walk this back.
Because even the craziest anti-Semite in the last couple years has been Kanye, had to basically come out and say, sorry, guys, I was actually bipolar, my bad, and had to do an apology tour.
I think Candace is better than that.
I hope she does better.
Let me ask you a question.
You think Candace hates Jews?
You think she's anti-Semitic?
I don't think she did, but now she probably does.
And okay, so you believe that Candace Owens internally hates Jewish people.
Like, Adam, she doesn't like you.
I don't.
I'm just asking yes or no.
See, that's the problem.
No, no, no, no.
Now I have to get to my point because all she's doing, Adam, is pointing things out that forever were forbidden.
You could never say anything about Israel.
You couldn't say anything about Jews or else what happened?
Says who?
No, hold on, hold on.
You were canceled, Adam.
But you said you can't say anything about Jews.
Let me finish.
People pointing out.
I'm pretty sure I see a lot of comments.
Hold on, people point.
Okay, tell me one thing that she's been stating that is false about what Israel has done or Benjamin Yah has done.
Or hold on a second.
Or the USS Liberty.
And I'm sick and tired of people.
And I know you said this.
It was 50 years ago.
I don't give a shit if it was 200 years ago.
The fact that they attacked and killed 34 American soldiers and got away with it, that's an act of war, Adam.
Let's just be honest with each other, okay?
At least with X, we can have, hold on, I'm almost done.
We can have a conversation where she can have Andrew Tate, where she can have a Zionist, and we can have a conversation and a debate, okay?
And I believe that there's a huge, huge misconception that the moment you criticize what Israel does as a nation, you are a freaking anti-Semite.
That's why they're pushing, they pushed that bill in Congress.
It's BS, and they get away with a lot, Adam.
I don't know if you guys noticed this.
A couple weeks ago, Israeli soldiers were on camera raping Palestinian prisoners, detainees, raping.
Okay, I sent it to Rob.
I sent it to, well, Adam, am I anti-Semite now?
Because I'm proving that not only did they not get in trouble, Israelis came to the prison and rioted to get those soldiers out.
And then the soldiers were released, and one of them was on camera saying, yeah, we did it.
And what?
So here's my point, Adam.
Just because you want to criticize a certain, Adam, people criticize the United States all the time.
I criticize as a veteran, George Bush Jr. and the act of disgustingness that he did with 9-11 and freaking Iraq and weapons of matter.
Why do you think they don't?
Why do you think?
So did you read the book, Israeli Lobby?
I'm almost finished.
Okay.
So what did you catch about the fact that every president since Nixon, since Carter, when they negotiated the terms, since Gerald Ford and Kissinger, since every one of them that try to negotiate terms, this goes all the way back to giving credit to how Jews negotiated contracts many, many years ago.
Yeah.
And that's it.
I got it.
And when you look at that, you're like, okay, these guys were the only ones that negotiated terms that instead of getting quarterly payments when U.S. was helping them out, they would get payments all up front.
100% of the money would be given up front.
And then many times when money that was given to Israel to help out, many times a part of the negotiation would be like, oh, let's just write it off.
And even to the point where one time Clinton, you know, they negotiated something and they didn't follow what Clinton asked them to do.
And they wanted Clinton to go out there to kind of commemorate and say, hey, we're doing this.
He said, I'm not even coming.
Forget about it.
You guys do it on your own, right?
Okay.
So why do you think that happened?
Well, because I wrote this down, baby D, and I said, I give them credit where credit's due.
The business savvy, the decision making, the alliances, we're Assyrian.
I wish Assyrians did that thing.
My only thing, Pat, is the accountability when they make mistakes.
That's it.
That's all I think, especially people like Candace.
Where's the accountability?
Shouldn't you get in trouble for attacking a U.S. ship?
Shouldn't you get in trouble?
If other country raped prisoners on camera, it would have been an international, everybody would be going nuts.
It just seems, and that's what she's pointing out, Pat, that when it comes to Israel, they get away with it.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
So should a guy I had on who was Thomas Jefferson's great-great-great-great-grandson, Sixth Generations grandson, and he goes out there and he trashes Thomas Jefferson and says, we need to remove Thomas Jefferson's statue and replace it with, you know, who did he want to replace it to?
Yeah, that's exactly the person, the grandson, if you can pull that up.
Prescott.
Thomas Jefferson's pre-that was his name.
Go up Rob, let me read what I'm reading on Thomas Jefferson's.
No, not this one.
The other one.
There's another one that he says.
And he says, we need to remove, and I'm so disappointed with my great, great, great, great, great-grandfather.
And George Washington was a slave owner, Vinnie.
Yes.
He was a slave owner.
And because of that, we need to do this.
What do you say to blacks that say George Washington was a slave owner?
And we need to teach that to our kids in America that are going to school.
What do you say to this?
I 100% say you say everything truthful and honest because that's how we got where we got.
And that's history.
And you can't run or hide from the history.
And taking down a statue isn't going to take away the fact that these people did this.
What they did for educational purposes only?
Or what do you want to do with it?
Because we have a pretty ugly history as well.
Disgusting.
But what do you want to do with our history?
In what sense?
I mean, we have ugly history.
We've done some ugly shit.
Big time.
What should we do with that?
I mean, learn from mistakes and get better and not let the past make us do it again in the future.
All right.
So can I do that with black history where the first slave owner in America, do you know who was the first person that owns slaved in America?
It was a black man.
It was a black man.
Can you write up, Rob?
The first slave owner in America.
First slave owner in America was a black man who owned slaves.
Okay.
Okay.
So what should we do with that guy?
Should we go and say, oh, horrible?
And should we, the point with everything that you're saying with the rape and all that stuff, okay, on what happened.
I can show videos of women being stoned to death in the Middle East.
It's a regular Tuesday, okay, for adultery.
How do you feel about that?
It's horrible, but are they our number one ally?
Are they the people that we give everything to and that we are told that we have to pick a side?
So what you just said is very important.
Yes.
And this is the slippery slope with Candace when I gave her my feedback.
Privately, I gave her my feedback.
I'm not going to tell everybody what feedback I gave her, but I gave her my feedback when her and I were speaking.
So for me, the part is when you go the direction you're going, then Dan goes to the world's a better place without Israel being in existence.
Now you're playing with fire.
So that is the part where this whole movement is going to, the movement is going to turn and support to.
Okay, yeah, you're around.
So who do I support?
Not Trump.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
So who do I support?
You support anti-Israel.
Okay, so who do I support?
Muslims?
Well, the religion of peace.
Really?
Are you seeing Tommy Robinson?
What's going on in UK?
You're not with it.
No.
Are you with it?
Nope.
Okay, so check this out.
This last week, you know who we had on here?
Here's who we had on here.
I never knew this until this data came through this week.
And by the way, I haven't made friends the last week if you haven't looked at Twitter.
I haven't made any new friends where I'm.
We're still good.
No, I don't worry about it.
I don't wake up in the morning trying to win people or not or do any of that stuff.
I wake up in the morning and try to process issues myself.
So last week we had him on on Friday.
Dominik Tarjinski.
I don't know if you know who he is.
I love him.
Dominik Tarjinski is the two-time European Parliament and Polish Parliament, Dominik Tarjinski.
He comes here.
You ever seen a clip on what he says?
Rob, can you pull up that clip where he's being interviewed and he says not one?
I want you to watch this clip.
Go ahead, play this clip.
Oh, I love this.
How many refugees has Poland taken?
Zero.
And you're proud of that?
If you are asking me, if you're asking me about Muslims' illegal immigration, none, not even one, will come to Poland.
Not even one if it's illegal.
We took over 2 million Ukrainians who are working, who are peaceful in Poland.
We will not receive even one Muslim because this is what we promised.
But I asked not about illegal eloquence.
I asked about refugees.
And Jean-Claude Juncker, the Commission president, says that you're racist.
You sound proud of the fact that you haven't taken any refugees.
Of course, because this is what our people are expecting from our government.
That's number one.
This is why our government was elected.
But this is why Poland is so safe.
This is the reason why we had not even one terrorist attack.
Look at the streets in Poland.
And we can be called populists, nationalists, racists.
I don't care.
I care about my family and about my country.
By the way, let me give you some stats here.
You ready?
Do you know what is the number one country in Europe out of 27 countries in crime?
Least amount of crime?
Poland.
Poland.
Do you know who has the lowest amount of rape?
Poland.
Do you know who has the lowest amount of unemployment rate?
Poland.
Do you know who has the least amount of Muslim population in Europe?
Poland.
0.1%.
So to all the Muslims who are like, oh my God, that's exactly, we know you're a Zionist person.
I'm doing a video on APAC that's coming out in two weeks.
I'm not an ally.
We don't sit there, and by the way, 100% of what we do with VaiTame, we don't take money from everybody.
We've never raised capital from anybody.
And if you've noticed, we don't even do sponsorships anymore.
I told everybody no.
Millions on top of millions of dollars of money.
Take gold money.
Take this.
I don't want it right now.
Why do you not want it?
Because I'm doing sponsorship with our businesses that we're running.
If you like what we stand for, you support us, support Manek.
Support the merge.
Support Bed David Consulting.
Support the Vault.
If you don't totally get it, go support somebody else.
We're not even taking sponsorship money right now.
People are begging us to take millions of dollars of free cash.
Zero.
We don't have a sponsorship department here.
Tell me one podcast in the world that doesn't have a freaking sponsorship department and they're not relying on other people giving them money.
No one gives us money to tell us what to do.
We own 100% of the company today.
Will we end up raising money?
Yes, we will.
Who?
Strategic partner.
Until then, ain't nobody telling us what to do.
But going back to this, why is Poland the lowest in crime if they don't have any, if they have the lowest Muslim population?
Should we not look at data?
Should we not look at data?
By the way, who's the highest in Muslim population?
France.
Who's the highest in crime?
France.
Why is that?
Why are we not asking that question?
By the way, I'm at a restaurant the other day.
A Muslim guy pulls up to me, super respectful, and he asked me, you know, that, hey, let me tell you, and ta-da-da-da, I don't agree with you and all this stuff.
And my kids are still, Dylan was worried because Dylan's looking at him like, this guy's going to do something.
But it was actually a very respectful conversation.
So that's the question.
Where are you going with it?
Now, let's talk Israel.
Let's talk Mossad.
Some very weird history with Israel.
Just some very, very weird stuff that's with history.
We all got it, by the way, but they got some weird part of it on how they negotiated terms.
American people, politicians, should have been very dumb when they negotiated terms to give money up front without quarterly payments.
Do you know what that means?
Let me explain to you what that means.
It's kind of like you have booking a speaker for the Vault Conference.
Okay.
And you pay all the money up front.
Nobody ever pays all the money up front.
You know how it works?
You pay half up front, half when it's at the event.
Nobody says, hey, here's the entire speaking fee up front.
Nobody does that.
And if you booked a speaker a year in advance, it's quarter, So say we book somebody for, you know, $300,000, $75K here, $75K six months out, $75K, three months out, $75K at the event.
That's kind of how it works.
What are we doing paying the whole thing money up front?
I don't know.
What are we doing with the amount of intel that we're giving Mossad?
Why are we giving Mossad as much?
Because they're an ally?
Okay, everything?
Are they giving us everything?
I don't know.
And you go in and you see some of the other stuff that's being taking place.
This is the part that I know this is going to sound freaking so weird to say this.
I am a Christian first.
Yep.
I am a father and family second is what I am.
And I am America third.
I'm not in a country, America is first, but I'm Christian first.
Then I'm a family guy, my family and friends, people that are with me.
Then for me, it's America.
Okay.
I'm not sitting here trying to win a political party and all this other stuff.
But again, on the other hand, Trump is winning for office.
So some of these things that, you know, these guys that are doing the Knicks or, you know, Candace or, you know, Dan, although Dan said he's going to vote for Trump, and I know Candace's going to vote for Trump, they're criticizing the president.
Okay.
At the end, they're all going to vote for Trump.
But what they don't realize they're doing, they may have pushed some people away from Trump.
And that's what they did.
And why?
Why is that?
What sometimes, what do sometimes brats get upset about?
If they don't get it their way.
If they don't get it their way, if they don't get heard.
So maybe some of these guys, you know, like for example, I really want Trump to do Rogan's podcast.
But I really want Rogan to do, what do you call it?
Trump's podcast.
If Rogan doesn't do Trump, have you ever heard me criticize a Rogan for not bringing Trump on or any of that?
It's his freaking choice if he chooses to do it or not.
I'd love to see it.
Okay.
I'm sure a lot of people would love to have Trump on and they want to get Trump's attention just to get a nod.
Hey, we hear you.
Maybe he doesn't want to do it.
Does he have to do it?
Does he have to do with everybody?
Is it that much attention that you need?
Is your attention over a Kamala?
Is that where you are?
Is it more you getting attention over your country?
I don't know.
And yes, Trump did go to Israel.
And yes, he is Israel supporting them.
That's the position he took.
You don't like it?
Guess what?
Go make a ton of money and bring alliances together.
Just make sure whoever you bring alliances with have money and influence that they can do something about it.
Or else it's just a show to get more eyeballs and more, what do you call it?
More eyeballs and more fame and trendy.
And by the way, there are a lot of stories that you can pick and go with that the temperature of it goes zero to 100 very quickly.
But let me tell you what else happens with those stories.
They also can go from 100 to a zero in no time.
Then you got to find the next story and the next story and the next story.
And then there are certain stories you pick that are forever.
This game is a very different game.
And if you're going to be around for a while, I mean, even right now in Iran, hangings are still going on in Iran.
You think Iran is an ally?
Nope.
Do you think Iran is an ally on what they're doing?
You think Iran right there, somebody does something, oh, we're pro-woman.
Really?
Go be pro-woman in Iran, see what they're doing.
Go ahead.
Go be pro-woman in Iran, see what they're doing.
So the only slippery slope here when you play games is you're pushing people away from somewhere.
They're going to go somewhere else.
And if they go somewhere else, that may not be a place that's going to support the vision that you have for America.
Because right now, let's just say Kamala's president.
How bad do you think that is if Kamala becomes president?
For the country, I think it's absolutely horrible.
Are we going to get over it?
Or you think it's zero to 10?
It's 10.
It's very bad.
I think it'll be an eight, but I think everything that's been happening for the past four years is going to be multiplied and magnified because she's actually there.
She can, by the way, she's going to be a horrible person.
Do you think she can be a two-term?
Absolutely.
Do you think in the next seat they can flip two more seats on Supreme Court and one of them being?
Do you think we can now go back to 5-4 to the left?
I think so.
Okay.
How bad is that for you?
Horrible.
Okay, then.
That's what's happening.
That's what's happening.
So the point is, these arguments being made is fracturing and fragmenting the political party.
And by the way, just right now, 87 executions in one day.
87 executions in one day.
Iran.
Fantastic.
Just a regular day, right?
It's just a great stuff.
Yeah.
But Iran is Israel's enemy.
So if Israel's your enemy, you're for Iran.
You have to understand, it's not a, I don't know how to describe, for people like, trust me, if you only really knew what I thought on the inside.
Trust me, I lived in Iran and I know what it is to do business with others.
I've been around.
I've been around to see what's going on with all this other stuff.
This is not like a hypothetical that we're talking about here.
But push Israel as much as you want.
You're only strengthening Iran.
Exactly.
Keep doing it.
Push Israel all you want.
You're only strengthening Iran.
You don't have to.
There is.
You know how you work at an environment?
Does everybody in this office, is everybody at lion holding violin attend to you relationship-wise?
Meaning.
Meaning.
100% of people you love and you hang out with?
No.
No.
You get along with most.
I get along with everybody.
I don't hang out with everybody.
But are there certain people you tolerate?
Yes.
Okay.
In what environment do you not have to do that?
So what's the solution?
Think about it.
Let's actually go there.
Is it good for the people you tolerate for you to leave lion holding and say, screw it?
Because I can't tolerate these two people, I'm going to leave on a money.
No.
Because the opportunity is bigger than the two people you have to tolerate.
Insurance industry, finance, business.
How many people you think we have to tolerate over the years?
People that I knew behind my back.
You know how many, Tom knows this.
You know how many people, there's a lady right now.
You know how many times behind my back she said so many things about me?
And you knew it.
Oh, till today she does it and she was at my conference.
And I know it.
She's not part of my company, but she's part of some of the people that, do you know until today I know it?
And guess what?
When you see her, you're like, how you doing?
Why, though?
Why do you have to do that?
Because that's part of being in business.
You're not going to get along with everybody.
I got you.
So in this sense, Bab, when it comes to like, you know, Iran or Muslims and Israel and Jewish people, I'm sorry, just Israel in general.
And I don't want to say lesser the two evils, but in this game that we're playing, you're leaning towards the side because one side's doing horrible stuff.
The other side's doing horrible stuff.
Are you going with the side that's more beneficial because the other side is more evil?
You know what it is, Candace?
Guess what?
Why don't she run in 2028?
And her number one thing should be get rid of AIPAC and Israel lobby.
See what it does.
Good luck.
No, no.
What I'm saying is run on that.
I'm actually not saying good luck.
I'm not coming.
He's saying good luck.
He's saying good luck.
No, what he's saying is good luck, you win.
What I'm saying is go see how many more people are for that.
And that's America.
Go prove your argument.
Get support and run on that.
Because when you run on, when you're campaigning, a president chooses a handful of things to campaign on.
You want Trump's top five to be Israel?
No.
By the way, every single president since Nixon days had a hard time negotiating with Israel.
Every single one of them.
And you know why it was?
Half the battle for them was when Kissinger and Ford were pissed off and they came out with a plan and they, what do you call it?
What it's like, ah.
They brushed them off.
Congress passed it.
But the House wasn't going to do it.
Yeah, they passed it.
Yeah.
Because Israel, the lobbyists, they had won over so many people in Congress that they were going to go that way because that's where the money was coming from.
You know, the Bowman guy that got replaced?
Yeah.
And who's the other guy?
Ilhan Omar?
No, no, Corey, Corey.
Corey Bush.
Corey Bush.
Guess who got rid of those two guys?
APAC.
Do you want them in there or do you want them out?
I want them out.
Yeah, so it's like a campaign.
APAC helped you.
Of course.
This is such a like a it's it's, it's such a complex.
Tom, you look like you want to say something.
Go ahead no no, I'm.
Yeah, I'm sitting here listening and what people have to understand and I'm gonna step away from all the the inflammatory stuff.
Um, one point, I'm not gonna comment on that.
What Pat just said is very important.
Nixon, Kissinger Ford, Kissinger Carter, Bignu Brzezinski, I think no no no, no.
Cyrus Vance and you go through all the Secretary of States and the presidents.
They're trying to negotiate certain things up here and they effectively have term limits, eight years right, yep.
Well, it's like what Nancy Pelosi said about W. W may be here for eight years, will be here a lot longer.
We can manage it, manage it.
Israel functions almost like a, a senior senator they are.
And what does a senior senator do?
I'll give you the bridge deal, I'll give you the farm deal, you got my vote, but hey, I need you on the pharma deal and I need you on the crime bill, and it goes back and forth like that.
That's what Israel does in our own Senate and Congress.
So when they're out there at the foreign policy level trying to do it, Israel is responding the same way that Nancy Pelosi responded to W. Don't worry about it.
We can.
We can maneuver around this because we've got other things in play.
We'll get the bill we want.
We'll get the defense spending we want.
We'll get the foreign aid package we want.
That's the way the game is played, so I'm not going to comment on all the other things.
What it is is they have become an incredibly effective country that operates even better than some of the biggest lobbyists that we have in our own government, and you sit back and you look at it and you say you don't have to like it.
But that's the game.
That's actually the political game.
That's the way the game is played, and they're just playing it superbly well to get what they want.
And the difference between big Pharma, which is practically a country, and Israel is at the at the base level, not a lot, but they're getting.
They're getting what they want and what they feel their interests are.
But are we supposed to let them get away with murder just because the enemy is way worse at doing murder?
That's my point.
Wait wait wait, hang on yes, hang on, hang on back off.
So no, hang on.
You're saying yes, no.
Were you talking about Israel or big Pharma?
Yeah, both.
No, no, but you see the point?
Yeah, I know.
I got you.
Yeah, exactly.
Now you guys can go.
This is what you're failing to understand.
Please, please tell me about this.
And you just think of this in non-emotional reacting.
Like, I'm in love with Candace Owens and everything she says.
I'm in love with the guy.
I can't digest.
I'm just saying.
Okay.
There's no perfect country on earth, bro.
I know that.
Do you, though?
Yeah, I just criticized Bush while I was in the military.
That's why I left the military.
Precisely.
So continue.
Yeah.
So you've been critical of your own government.
1,000%.
You're critical of it.
Kamala Harris, you're Kimball of Biden.
You've even been critical of Trump at the time.
Thank you.
That's how this works.
You know, I said that, you know, everyone has to choose their enemies wisely.
And I asked you, the enemy of my enemy is my you got it right this time.
I love you.
I was messing with you.
So you have to put every country on a one through ten scale.
The countries that you're most aligned with are eights, nines, and tens.
I would argue there's probably not a ten out there that knows every single one of our secrets.
But in the seven, eight, nine camp are your allies.
These are your NATO partners.
This is Israel.
This is Japan.
This is South Korea.
Every single one of these countries we've had issues with.
We've gone to war with Germany and now they're our ally.
We've gone to war with Japan.
We've gone to war with Italy.
So at some point, if everything we do is, yeah, but the Nazis on my Pearl Harbor, it's like you're never going to get ahead.
So you want to do that.
Oh my God, Candace once told me about USS Liberty.
I get it.
No, she didn't.
Me and Tom had that.
Awesome.
You found out for yourself.
But none of this is new.
The JFK conspiracies, the Bolshevik revolution thing.
Israel has been dealing with this forever.
You think Israel is just this perfect country that is innocent, that has never done anything wrong?
No.
Have they been held accountable for any of them?
Go ahead.
Are you the guy?
No, I'm that.
So you prove my point.
So you can't.
Hold on, Adam.
So you just proved my point.
So you have a point.
USS Liberty.
USS Liberty, dancing Israelis, cheering.
So cheering at night.
The fucking towers were coming down, cheering.
They all were part of intelligence.
No, no.
Because you're full of shit.
No, no, no.
Because you are, you love Israel.
You can't.
Adam, they can do whatever they want.
I acknowledge it.
They can do whatever they want.
They are a better ally than enemies.
But you're saying they can get away with murder.
Because we're supposed to forget about it.
That's not what I'm saying.
That's horseshit.
Who has done worse things to Americans?
Okay.
Listen for a second.
Go ahead.
Don't be emotional.
No, how am I not going to be emotional?
Who has attacked America worse in the last hundred years?
Germany or Israel?
Germany or Israel?
Yeah, who's had more deaths of Americans?
Germany or Israel?
This isn't a trick question.
This isn't tough, bro.
Killing Americans.
Yes, killing Americans.
In war.
In a war.
Germany.
Okay, great.
Who's killed more Americans?
Japan or Israel?
Japan.
Okay.
So why aren't you yelling and bitching about Japan or Germany?
Because they're not our freaking people.
Because why?
Because why?
Because their prime minister doesn't come to Congress and everybody stands up and worships him like he's Jesus Christ.
Because they know who the guy in charge is, Adam.
They're not our.
Hold on.
Are they bigger allies?
Do we give them as much money as we give to Israel?
And they can do whatever they want.
And you're failing to go back to what I said about Candace.
You're not an anti-Semite.
You don't hate Jews because you're criticizing Israel.
And I get it.
The Muslim world, the Muslim world, and Europe is doing what they're doing.
I get it.
I get it.
But with zero accountability, that means, Adam, in 100 years from now, we're going to go, well, guess what?
And who cares?
Because they're our allies.
So they could get away with murder.
So there's dozens of wars going on all around the world.
Yes.
Why aren't you talking about my tax dollars, my tax dollars are going to what's happening over there in Gaza, Adam?
And if you've been keeping toll of the death count of children and everything, that sits on my mind.
Because at what point is that going to stop?
So, when is that going to end?
What other ways are you going to get to the point?
Again, wait, let me guess.
Because I said that, I support Hamas and I hate Jews.
Is that what it is?
I don't want to see any deaths of anyone.
Am I but the numbers are staggering in the other way?
When is that going to stop?
Good luck in this position you're taking because all you're doing is aligning yourself with Iran.
Here it is.
See, and that's it because you always have to have a take aside.
Adam, how about this?
America, I don't know how hard this is to understand.
I am us first.
I don't give a shit about Bibi Netanyahu.
I don't give a shit about Germany.
I don't care about France.
I don't care about anybody but the United States of America first.
Once we're secure, then we can go talk to other people.
And Vinny, unfortunately, you're a child.
Because every grown-up country has allies.
I never said allies.
Adam, once you served in the military, then you could talk all this shit about the people.
What do you mean by being a child?
How do you process this?
So let me just say one thing.
How do you process this?
Because what you're saying?
How do you process this exchange?
Going back and forth?
Between Adam and Vinny.
How do you process it?
Vinny is taking a very passionate America first position, which I share.
And Vinny is asking for accountability for modern day things that are, what are that, when I say modern day, things that are happening right now, things that are going on right now.
And I thought it was a little disingenuous for Adam to kind of go back.
Well, let's go back to 100 years.
Who's killed more?
Well, let's go back 200 years and let's make the Brits the ones, right?
You go back to Revolutionary War, which I think is a little ridiculous.
Honestly, you have to look at life as it is.
What is going on right now?
And what he's asking for, he's asking for accountability.
Has anybody held Israel accountable?
He's asking a question.
And while he's putting it on top of, I can be America first and be very passionately America first and also recognize Israel as a question for you.
Why hasn't Israel been held accountable?
I think that, well, let's look around the globe in terms of diplomacy.
Why is any country not held accountable?
Because they skillfully prevent themselves from being held accountable and they make friends and do things in certain ways so that they'll say, look, look, you know, I know you borrowed my car and you did a lot of damage to it, but I really need your help at school because we're both on the same football team.
I'm going to overlook the car and we got to be teammates over here.
That's how diplomacy works.
Things get over not overlooked, but things do not get prosecuted or things do not get held out because there's other things going on that people think are greater.
That's how they either have something on you or you agree that going after this over here is bigger.
So what do you think is the likelihood?
What do you think is a likelihood if you were somebody right now that is consulting for Vinny?
Vinny wants to run for office, okay?
And he wants to win, would you advise him that if the idea is to win, the concept of going after Israel and hold them accountable is a winning formula as a number one?
Some of the greatest political consultants in history, Vinny, would tell you this.
Vinny, what's your platform?
Not five, not three, but you need two.
Two core things to your platform.
You're going to list five, but two are really going to matter to you.
Maybe one of them is America first.
Now then, once we have that, Vinny, we're going to have what is the core statement for your campaign.
And then we have what's called the big tent.
And the big tent.
So just talk to me.
I'm asking you.
Like, I'm asking, would you advise Israel being held accountable as a number one or a number two?
No, I wouldn't put that in the platform.
And in the name of the- Why wouldn't you?
Because you're going to get, you're not going to win the voters you need to win.
And it doesn't mean you step away from defending America first.
Right.
But if you take that other position, your big tent falls apart.
So then the question becomes: so if since Nixon Kissinger, since You can even go John F. Kennedy.
You can go to Carter.
You can go to all these guys.
Kennedy and Robert McNeil.
None of these guys have ever been able to negotiate favorable terms for the U.S. Why do you think that is?
Because either Israel has got things on us and we are not without sin, or they have been able to lobby successfully to talk us out of it.
It's one of the two.
Okay, so which one do you think it's more?
I think there's probably a little bit more chess game on some of the stuff we've done, CIA, around the world, and they've got that.
And they're also just incredibly skillful, omnipresent lobbyists.
So they probably also have some dirt on U.S. to say, hey, if you do this, guess what?
Like the whole thing with Epstein, when his brother came over, and by the time he walked away, I was convinced both he and his brother were part of Mossad.
And if I have to put money on the fact that Epstein has a lot of dirt on God knows how many people as a Mossad agent and sending those assets back to Israel, how valuable would that be?
Very valuable.
So I'll make my answer shorter because you're asking me to, and I will.
It's either dirt or you've got leverage of mutual interest.
Okay, but stay on this here.
Let's stay on this here.
Say we have dirt.
Okay.
By the way, do you believe most Jews are bad people?
No.
Okay.
Do you link when you think about when you think about terrorism?
Okay.
When you think about terrorism, what do you think about when the word terrorist comes up?
I think about people using violence against citizens to influence other governments.
Okay.
So let's go back to this whole concept with Jews, Vinny, both of you guys, you and Tom.
So I want you to, let's keep going through this.
Tom's going to give the history of it, and then we can give the opinion.
So if you were to, let's just say everything you said is accurate.
Let's say we find that it's 100%.
You know, the Epstein.
We can say right now 70% had happened.
Let's say it's 100%.
Let's say we get intel from somebody on the inside that's a die-hard fan of the podcast and he sends us an email and says, no, guys, this is not a maybe.
This is 100%.
Okay.
That's what Mossad does.
That's what Israel does.
That's when Net Yahoo came.
The standing ovation for him was bigger than anybody in the history of American politics that got up in front of the stage.
And by the way, the standing ovation was bigger than Zelensky when he came here and gave a talk.
A lot of people boycotted Zelin.
Netanyahu.
So if all of that is true, how do you fight against it?
How do I fight against the guy that's got 1% more dirt on me so that he gets what he wants and we're neutral?
You're an outsider.
You're a journalist.
You're a podcaster.
You're an influencer.
How do you fight against it if that's what they've done?
If that's what they've done, and that's the intel that they have on so many powerful people in Pennsylvania, in D.C., in our Congress, if they have that kind of power against many billionaires, many people at the top that are on the Forbes 400 list of wealth, how do you fight against it?
There's one way, and that way is not a short-term way because you got all these people who are compromised and they're standing there.
You can't just erase them.
You have to go start a program to get more dirt on the other guy, or your guys, you have to clean up what you're doing.
And it takes a long time.
But you're talking about decades of dirt on hundreds of people.
That's exactly right.
How do you fight it?
So, for example, basically.
I got to have dirt on you so that neutralizers say, listen, you may, okay, okay, you're going to bring that up?
Yeah.
I'm going to bring these five up.
Now it's a tie game.
Which way are we going here?
That's where you have to go.
I get that.
But I listened to Dave, and he's very eloquent on the way he gives his argument, right?
You go through some of these guys when you listen to their arguments.
Dave Who.
They've smashed.
So how do you go against that?
The decades of intel, the decades of intel by Mossad, bless you.
Bless you.
The decades of collaboration between CIA and Mossad.
How do you go against that?
It's very, very difficult.
It's like looking at the pharma lobby and saying that you have got decades now of legislation and a entrenched corrupt system of donations for campaigns.
And it's like in the U.S., oh, it'd be easy.
We'll just do like New Zealand does.
By the way, what's weird is, here's what's weird.
The fact that this conversation is being had, I love the fact that the debate's being had and the conversation's being had because it's educating a lot of people.
Concerning, Rob, can you put up Basim Yosef?
Basim Yosef, Vinny, you showed this as his last tweet before he got.
Yesterday his account was suspended off of Twitter.
And this was it.
He said.
Anti-Simpson was an accusation that used to freeze the blood on people's veins.
I see many people now realizing that how this fear tactic is used to shut down conversations and scare people.
It's been overused and abused in order to intimidate people.
Are you still scared to be called an anti-Semite by those Zionists?
Vote and tell me in the comments, no, I don't give a shit anymore, or yes, I'm still scared.
I don't know if this was it, but that was the last thing that he tweeted, the last thing that he posted.
His account got suspended.
Meanwhile, I mean, Candace was on.
The Twitter must comment on the fact that the account got suspended.
I don't know, but I know it was taken down.
Okay.
So that's nothing wild.
That's what I'm saying.
And I'd say anything to be taken down.
Zero, which is weird.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, listen, Bassam's been going around for a while.
And if there's anybody that the anti-Israel community that is really calling out what they've done should be very supportive of, it should be Elon Musk.
Because if there's no Elon Musk, you ain't having this conversation about that.
Ever.
No, you're not having this conversation.
Adam.
Can I just say one thing?
You can pull up the tweet by Candace Owens' father-in-law.
Just to kind of give some context.
His name is Lord Michael Farmer.
Very interesting what he had to say about this.
Everything that he's basically been sort of diagnosing with whatever Candace is doing.
It's while you find that.
So the reality is this, you know, you asked, is what you can criticize Israel without being anti-Semitic.
Okay, cool.
Do you not agree with that?
You said that later.
But that's not actually what happens.
Yes, it is.
Exactly right.
What did you say about Michael Farmer?
What did he say?
Do you want to tell us about that?
This is Candace Owens' father-in-law.
If you can punch in a little bit, in view of public comments from a very high-profile member of my family, aka Candice, I want to put my own views on anti-Semitism and Israel's current military campaign in Gaza on public record.
Again, this is her father-in-law.
Do you have the full scope of it?
A recent letter from international military leaders said that the Israeli defense forces were acting in a high accountable way in an extremely complex and difficult environment.
Is that the one you're talking about?
We cannot forget that they have been forced to prosecute this.
As a teenager growing up in the wake of World War II, I became very aware of the cruelty melted out before and during that conflict against Jewish people because they were Jewish.
I found it impossible to comprehend how humans could intentionally be as cruel as possible to the others.
Well, the general opinion in Britain was that it would never happen here, even though I thought, really, it seemed it could happen anywhere.
Such sadism lay dominant in the hearts of everyone.
And he goes on to basically lay his case as why as a young man, he started basically thinking a certain way.
I often experienced kindness and thoughtfulness from Jewish friends.
And at the time, I had a few close relationships.
I became a Christian in my mid-30s and became aware of the latent rebellion in my own heart against my creator.
The Bible says we all need to savior because it falls short of goodness and aspire, expect those from others.
He then goes on and continues, we aspire goodness and we're made in the God's images.
And he basically says, you know, basically, glory to God.
I recently visited Israel and a member of the UK Israel support group that I'm very aware of the human heart that has one group and acts with an aggressor who needs to be rebelled, which he's talking about, Hamas, which he basically labels a death cult.
Israel is a rare example of a democracy in the Middle East, a liberal state governed by the rule of law.
Of course, it has a right to defend itself, its citizens, when murderously attacked on its soil, and one of the cruelest and most callous pogroms in history, especially against a group who continues to vow to kill Israel and eliminate them from the map.
We cannot forget the large number of innocent hostages that were taken.
Many of them have died and many of them are still missing.
Israel faces an existential threat as Hamas, the terrorist organization, he stated their intentions to destroy Israel.
So this is Candace Owen's father.
So it seems to me that Thanksgiving dinner, if they have one this year, is going to be a little awkward.
But I actually have hope for Candace.
I think there's nothing that can't be undone.
So, you know, you ask, you know, you can criticize Israel without being anti-Semitic.
Okay, I'm with you on that.
I criticize George W. Bush.
I criticize Kamala.
I get it.
But what happens is you go from being anti-Israel and there's a slippery slope, bro.
All of a sudden, you end up being anti-Zionist.
And then you end up being anti-Jewish.
And then you end up being like, well, let's kill the Jews.
And that's how you end up with Dan Bilzerian basically saying, yeah, they bring nothing to the table.
They're a pariah.
We should eliminate them.
That's not exactly being critical of Bibi Netanyahu, who, by the way, speaking of critical Bibi Netanyahu, we talked about this the other day.
His approval ratings in Israel are a whopping 32%.
So you can be critical of the government all you want.
No problem.
I do that all the time.
All good.
But, you know, you're basically saying, well, Candace is criticizing the government.
And there it is, 32%.
But she's not criticizing Jews.
All right.
What's this story?
What's this?
She declared, I want to be clear.
If anything happens to me, blame the Zionists.
Like the thousand percent, blame the Zionists, making it clear.
So what does that mean?
If she got murdered, if she died today, who do you think killed her?
A random act of violence?
But she didn't die today.
I'm just saying.
She's just saying if anything happens.
Because people were messaging her saying, yo, you better be careful because people like you that are saying the shit that you're saying get killed.
That's what she's saying.
So I don't, Adam, that slippery slope from criticizing Israel's government, I don't know how that, I would never, that slope to get to highlight Jews.
You wouldn't.
But Dan Bilzerian did.
I don't think Dan Bilzerian did not.
I don't think Dan Bilzerian hates Jews.
I think Dan Bilzerian because you must have not seen.
What were the exact words he said about Israel, Pat?
I don't want to put words on.
Israel is not a Jewish person.
He doesn't like Israel.
Israel.
Adam, that's like saying, I don't like America.
Does that mean that?
The world's a better place without Israel on the map.
Okay, as a country, but does that mean he hates Jewish?
So what does that mean?
What happens to the 10 million people that are living in Israel when they're eliminated?
What do you think happens?
Israel off the map.
Take them off the master.
Is the world a better place?
I'm asking you.
Do you think the world's a better place without Israel on the map?
I mean, at this point, no.
We have to have them there at this point.
At what point would it be good?
I'm just saying from when was the Balfour Declaration, when was Israel created?
1940.
Well, the Balfour Declaration was 1971 and 1917, and then Israel was given a state in 1948.
By the way, when Israel became a state, you think they just started handing out flowers and bouquets to everyone around?
They've been to war with all their Middle Eastern allies.
Here's something you need to consider.
You know, I said you have allies, you have partnerships, you have trade agreements, you have alliances.
Do you realize how many alliances and trade agreements Israel has basically put together with the Arab world?
The UAE, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Sudan, Morocco.
So you have countries around the Middle East that at one point were at war with Israel.
You're like, look, bro, like, why are we fighting these guys?
Let's actually make peace with these people and let's see what we can do.
And there's a lot of people think that the reason that October 7th has happened is because Trump, who started the Abraham Accords, you're a Trump guy, yes.
You're America first guy, yes.
Trump was the one that moved the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
There's a lot of people that think that they were this close to having a deal with Saudi Arabia and MBS.
And that all basically spiraled after October 7th.
So why would all these Muslim countries who formerly were at war with Israel start alliances with them?
Because they recognize one thing.
They might not love Israel.
They might not love Bibi Nihu, but they recognize what you fail to recognize and what a lot of people fail to recognize.
Because if you don't make friends with them, that means you're on the side of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
And what happens is they recognize that Iran is the biggest threat in the region to the two things that every country wants, peace and prosperity.
So if you look at what's happening in Saudi and they're becoming entering modernity, if you look at what's happening in UAE, if you look what happened even in Qatar, if you look at what's happening in Kuwait, all these countries are basically like, yeah, we're done attacking these people.
They basically are the same people that realize, you know what, Trump wasn't really the problem.
It was actually the deep state.
So we're going to align with Trump, even though they thought that Trump was the enemy for years.
So you're going to go through pretzels trying to equivocate, well, I can do this or this.
All you're going to do is end up in a corner where it's like, do I pick the allies I have problems with?
Let me ask you.
Or do I pick the enemies that are literally shouting death to Americans?
It's not going to work.
So how do you feel about Trump's recent positioning and alignment with Israel?
I think, I don't know.
I'm kind of indifferent because it's kind of weird.
I just saw the other day.
Rob could probably find that he was speaking somewhere and there was three American flags on one side and then three Israeli flags on the other side.
And I don't know what has happened.
Israeli flags.
Israeli flags.
Like three and three.
Let's see.
And it was kind of, and I have, because this, by the way, he wasn't doing this in 2016, correct?
There was press play rap press pray play.
Tiny little spot compared to these giant land masses.
Israel is a tiny little spot compared to these giant land masses.
It's really a tiny spot.
I actually said, is there any way of getting where it's so tiny?
Israel is.
Can I say something about this?
Unless he's speaking in front of APAC or in Israel, I'm actually not a fan of this.
Because despite all the arguments we've had, I'm an American.
I believe in America first.
I don't believe in America only, and we can only take care of our homeland.
No, we have problems abroad, clearly.
Hang on.
So I don't know what the speech is.
I tell you where you are.
And I respect the hell out of you, Adam, for saying that.
Any United States past, present, anybody speaking should only have the American flag behind you, period.
Our church has an Israeli flag in the front.
The other day, I was saying, I'm like, wait, what?
What about the Palestinian?
Like, there's Palestinian good people.
Yeah, Hamas is doing what they're doing, but what about Palestine?
Anyway, when I see something like this, I almost feel, I mean, I'm not a fan, I'm going to be honest with you.
I almost feel, Pat, like 2020, what happened?
He got cheated.
They cheated.
He lost.
COVID, blah, blah.
I think this alliance is almost like, hey, listen, you buddy with us, and we won't let what happened in 2020 happen in 2024.
I think that's an alliance that he's made.
If you hate America, what does it say?
If you hate America, if you want to eliminate Israel, then we don't want you in our country.
What do you think about him saying that?
Well, I mean, if you want to eliminate Dan Bilzerian, I think, listen, and I don't, by the way, I don't know Dan Bilzerian's exact what he's talking about.
If he's saying dispersed.
You didn't watch the interview with Pat?
No, I watched it.
But when he says Israel, the country, the world would be a better place without Israel.
Do you think that he thinks right now, nuke it and get rid of everybody or break it up as a country and get everybody out of there?
Do you really think he does that?
Does it even make a difference?
No, but hold on.
Basically, what he's saying is all that, everything that's going on there, this democracy called Israel with all those Jews.
Yeah, we don't even want that on Earth.
That's how I promise you.
I don't think he thinks what you're thinking.
I'm not a fan of this at all.
Why are you apologizing for Dan Bilzerian?
No, I'm not apologizing for anybody.
He's his own grown man.
You could Israel that land.
They gave it to him and did what they did to the Palestinians.
He's saying the world would be a better place.
He's not saying kill them.
He's saying, if that's the case, sorry, I have to just stop you.
You're acting like Israel's the biggest problem.
I didn't.
No, no, no, I'm not mad.
No, you're putting words on.
Okay, you're acting like that's the problem.
That's the reason that Afghanistan, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, half the country.
Falling apart.
Going back to my point of view, why are we talking about Israel?
Why is Candace talking about Israel?
Why is Israel the big talk of the town for the past what?
When was October 7th?
Since October 7th, that's all people, that's the main event is that.
And why, Adam?
And we've asked this.
Anti-Semitic people like them keep talking about Israel.
You know, ready for this?
No, because, and then, because I've asked this a bunch of times, and I, and Steve Kirby said it.
Because remember, 9-11 happened how long ago?
How long ago?
Rob?
23 years ago.
23 years ago.
To this day, real people, real people that are awake know what happened on 9-11, who was really in charge and what happened and how they set it up.
You're the real people?
Yeah, Adam.
So you know what happened on 9-11, but not our actual CIA, FBI.
Oh, yeah, Adam, Adam.
Adam, you trust the government.
You go ahead and do that.
No, I'm going to trust Vinny.com.
Yeah, Adam, Vinny.
Then how did Vinnie know shit that you didn't know?
Because I was in during 9-11.
Do you remember when Candace Owens hitched her entire career to the fact that Emmanuel Macron's wife was a man?
Still, I guess what I said.
I still believe that.
You still believe that?
I believe it.
Yeah, because they haven't proved me wrong.
Number two.
So that 9-11 happened, and we still don't have the answers, okay?
October 7th happened.
The biggest failure of the biggest security freaking guarded spot.
You've been to Israel.
For six hours, they did what they went.
Where's the accountability of, when are we going to find out what happened, Adam?
Ready?
What?
30 years from now are they going to go, actually, Benjamin Nanyahu, yeah, they knew and they turned the other cheek.
What if you found that out, Adam?
I'm asking you.
You just found out what Adam 9-11.org.
Adam.org.
How do you feel about Trump right now?
When people go, oh, you're just a loyalist.
I don't like the border situation, and I don't like that.
What can he do to lose your vote?
I mean, he's not.
The other option is Kamala Harris, PD.
I'm voting for Donald Trump no matter what.
He's not going to lose my vote.
So he can't do anything to lose your vote.
Well, guess what?
If he was on Epstein's Island and was with the child, yes, I would not vote for him, period.
If he was a Bill Clinton, if he had the record that Bill Clinton had, bidoula, done deal.
You'd vote for Kamala then?
No, I wouldn't.
I would sit it out.
Period.
Okay, so, but in regards to this decision that he's making with Israel is not at the same level for you as where it would cause you to not want to vote for the guy.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because the other policies I love.
So let me ask you, do you think all of these things that are going on right now, what is your top issue in your life right now politically?
What's your number one?
Rank your top issues.
My top issues right now.
The border is one of the main ones.
Okay, so like the illegal illegals are coming in.
Alabama, PB, they just found in Alabama 3,200 illegal non-citizens registered to vote.
Okay, what's your second?
Number two, economy.
What's three?
Does inflation kind of go into that as well?
But secure, and Pat, on top of that, I'll put the economy inflation and then security with what's going to happen because I know something bad is coming.
Security.
Yes.
Okay, what else?
The protection of the children.
Everything that they're doing with the kids have a lot of people.
Pedophilia.
Open the border kind of goes into that.
I mean, those are my top four.
Top four, top five.
So where does Israel lie in your top 10 list?
Probably lower in the past 567.
In the 567.
Yeah.
Because I don't want them to get us into a freaking crazy war that is an intentional trying to get us into war.
Okay.
You think they could have done that in 2016, 2017, 18, 19, 20?
Meaning what?
Could Israel have done that to get U.S. into a war in 2016 through 2020?
I mean, there wasn't an event like October 7th.
Yeah, but could they have, if they really wanted to, fabricate a story to get us into war?
Yeah, or like a false flag, something like that.
Did that happen?
No.
Okay.
So what's above for you?
Trump winning or Israel being held accountable?
For right now, the way that the world's going, Trump has to win.
That's my number one.
That's the part about when, you know, do you think Candace and all this stuff that's going on, Dan, Tate, Tate doesn't live here.
Tate lives in Romania.
Okay, so Tate, U.S., of course, you know, they want Trump to be the president.
Tate's a Trump guy.
He's publicly said it.
Do you think all of that helps Trump's case or hurts Trump's case?
Hurts Trump's case.
How do you feel about that?
Not a big fan of it, but at the same token, at the same time, she's chosen her enemy.
It's a big freaking enemy.
I know you say, you know, choose them wisely, but I think there's something deeper that she has a calling for that she's going to go with it.
And how much of it do you think it's her?
How much of it do you think is the following out with Daily Wire?
I think the Daily Wire situation sparked the fire in her that's taken off, and it's way past that.
Ben Shapiro is so far back in her rear view, it's insane.
It's like now it's a bigger issue.
Now he set the flame and now it's a full-on fire line.
Like it's insane.
Do you think America needs that today?
What?
That.
Just going through that whole Israel thing today.
I mean, do we need it?
I think we do need it.
Okay.
I think we have to have...
How do you think the left feels about it today?
Of course they, anything that's having us fighting with each other is obviously huge.
Got it.
So the left's going to use this.
Big time.
And that's why they wrote an article titled, What?
Far-right influencers, talking about guys like you, turn against Trump campaign.
And that's a WAPO story.
Who does that help?
The left, obviously.
Who does that hurt?
The right, Trump.
So when November 5th comes and Kamala's president, remember these days.
Just letting you know, when November 5th comes and all of these guys, when you're, and by the way, trust me, you're going to get swamped with support and messages today.
You're going to be swamped with messages of support today.
Swamped.
Vinny, you're the only guy.
You're this and you're that and you're this and you're great.
When that happens, they're not sitting there matching your number one, which your number one is Trump winning.
Their number one is their hate and dislike for Israel.
That's their number one.
You have to kind of pick and choose which one's going to be your number one.
If your number one is America first, this is an America first.
That's not an America first position you're making.
Everybody has their own individual choices that they make, but your choices will have a direct impact, specifically during a time like this.
If you think, like, if you think this is a truly important time, if in the back of your mind you're like, nah, Kamala winning is not that big of a deal, keep doing what you're doing.
Light it up.
But if you don't come November 5th, while we're campaigning, and you sit there like records been broken, officially, first female African-American president applaud because you supported that, right?
And in your indirect way, you helped that.
That's the part where the left is united, and that's the part where the right is fragmented.
The right is fragmented.
And why is the right fragmented?
Ego, pride, I'm right.
I know what I'm talking about.
And by the way, for the audience that watches this, and you know, PBD podcast, we started this.
We're bringing a few different people.
So you're going to see the home team, you know, rotating and having different people come here.
And we'll have do this.
And you're going to see a lot more.
Like last week, what I was most excited about is the unusual suspect with Adam, Tom, and Vinny, which crushed it.
Which, by the way, if you guys haven't supported Unusual, Rob, if you can put that up there, go support that podcast, Unusual Suspect.
I bought that domain some six years ago because I knew one day that Unusual Suspect podcast was going to be a big podcast.
Go subscribe to those guys.
If you like what just happened right now, go to Unusual Suspect.
Rob, put the link below so people can subscribe.
They're at 53,000.
Let's see if we can put them over 60,000.
Rob, can you put that link?
Put it in the chat.
Just do copy, paste, put it below.
But here's what you're going to see.
We here are comfortable having these conversations.
This is a regular day for me.
We can have in our board meeting.
We'll have conversations.
For anybody that's worked with me for as long as they have, they know I'm very comfortable having any kind of conversations.
It doesn't matter what it is.
We'll have it.
But the bigger picture we have to ask ourselves is, some of you are watching this.
Your number one enemy is Israel.
You can't stand Israel.
I respect it.
Some of you guys are watching this.
Your number one enemy is Trump.
Totally get it.
It's your deal.
Some of you are watching this.
Your number one enemy is Kamala.
Some of you guys can't stand my position.
Some of you guys can't stand the fact that I still have Adam here.
Like, I can't believe you haven't fired Adam yet.
Why didn't you fire Adam three years ago, four years ago, two years ago?
I'm here to announce we're doing it today.
No, I'm just kidding with you.
You know, some of you guys have been waiting for that for a while.
But you know what?
What I like, I like the discourse.
I like the conversation.
But we have to always be reminded what's your number one and your decision that you're making in the communities that you're getting linked to.
Is it helping you advance your number one or is it hurting you?
It's that simple.
This business is a very simple game that you're getting into.
But where we are right now, I think we're facing a very interesting time politically.
Very.
Because on one end, guys are sitting there thinking no matter what, you know, the Trump's going to win and it's done and all this other stuff.
Nope, it's officially turned.
She hasn't even spoken yet.
And she's officially the lead dog in Vegas.
Just so you know that.
She hasn't even spoken yet.
That conversation hasn't even happened yet.
She hasn't even given the speech yet.
And you don't even know what other celebrity is going to be speaking in the next couple of days.
That, Steve Kerr, who's going to come tomorrow or the next day?
We don't know yet.
So stay tuned.
A lot of weird, interesting things are going to happen.
And yes, oh my God, how can you see her winning?
There's no way, Pat.
All this other stuff.
Just wait.
You'll see.
You'll see what's going to happen next 76 days, which I think is the exact amount of days that are left till that day.
But either way, for everybody that watches this and you tolerate our differences or you enjoy our differences and what we're talking about, we appreciate you.
I personally appreciate you.
If you agreed what Vinny said today, send him a Manect.
Go ahead and send him a Manek right there.
That's his QR code.
If you disagreed with what anybody said here, myself, Adam, Tom, send him a Manek, have a conversation with them.
But the best part is start the conversation today.
By the way, for some of you that absolutely love or disagree with what Candace Owens is saying, tell me when's the last time in election where you can actually message a Candace Owens or a Chris Cuomo or a Tulsi Gabbard and have a conversation with them.
Right now, you can Manek Candace Owens and say, Candace, I'm with you.
I'm not with you.
I can't believe what they said.
I can't believe what that person said.
Whatever it is, that's her Manect.
Go Manette Candace right now.
Let her know what you think of what she's doing and what she's exposing and what she's talking about, whether you're with her or you're not with her.
She will definitely respond back.
And Candace actually responds back normally within 24 hours on Manek.
She's one of the fastest to give back to people on Manek.
Having said that, gang, thank you so much again.
Today's what?
Today's Tuesday.
Today's Tuesday.
Tomorrow, Dominic Tarjinski's podcast will go live first thing in the morning, 9 o'clock, and we'll do a home team again on Thursday.
