Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth & Vincent Oshana cover Michael Cohen's secret Trump tape, the number of U.S. mortgages considered 'seriously underwater' hits all-time high, and reports of Bird Flu spreading across the United States!
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06:16 - U.S. households' savings hit an all-time low, as credit card debt hits all-time high.
15:33 - Americans Are Racking Up ‘Phantom Debt’ That Wall Street Can’t Track.
22:04 - Percentage of US mortgages considered ‘seriously underwater’ rises.
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51:49 - Listen in as Donald Trump allegedly talks hush money in secret recording.
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1:25:12 - Jerry Seinfeld's commencement speech at Duke University encourages graduates to never lose their sense of humor.
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1:39:57 - Birth rates declining across the globe, what's the reason behind the drop?
2:05:35 - World Health Organization warns bird flu could jump from animal to human.
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All right, episode 411.
I got two big announcements I'll be making today.
One of them will be right off the bat.
The other one will be at around 9.30 mark, which is about 30 minutes, 25 minutes, for the next live.
And all I'll tell you is the next live will sell out within minutes.
When I tell you who it is, it's going to be a big debate.
It's going to be one of the most trending topics, not even one of the most.
It was probably the most trending topic on Twitter last week that led to a lot of love, hate, we hate you, we love you.
Can't believe this is what's going on.
And it's all leading to a discussion, which is what we want.
So wait till we announce it.
And for some of you guys that work a little bit, you want to work a little bit more faster than others, have the 5990 live ticket ready on the website because the VIPs, you know, they go out real quick and you're going to be able to be backstage with us to meet the guests and have a conversation with them at the cigar line.
So stay tuned for that.
Meanwhile, let me go through a couple stories we're going to go through here today.
Number one is, so they reported that they had 353,000 jobs in the month of April.
And then quietly in the middle of the night, midnight, Barron, is it Barron's birthday?
Yep, Baron reports saying they were way off and the government indirectly slowly corrected themselves after having made the announcement that they had 353,000 jobs, which, you know, makes the government look.
Wait till we show the numbers here on this one.
Very interesting.
Next story, obviously, some of the trial stuff that's going on.
You know, listen to as Donald Trump allegedly talks about his hush money secret recording.
There's a couple of things with Melania.
And then Ice Cube on celebrities, rappers embracing Trump.
It's a personal decision.
Evinni's going to talk about the Ashley Biden stolen diary.
Is it real or not?
This is a Times Now story.
Iran lawmakers declares Tehran obtained, they obtained nuclear bombs.
Meanwhile, you should hear what Lindsey Graham said we should do with Iran, which is quite interesting.
San Francisco, look how noble the politicians are in San Francisco.
They're buying vodka shots for homeless alcoholics in taxpayer-funded programs.
So for some of you that are listening to this saying, my mayor doesn't do it, how come my politicians send an email to your congressman and congresswoman and mayor and say, how come you don't give us vodka shots like San Francisco does?
By the way, that would be the funniest email if you sent to your congressman.
Can you imagine you say that?
Come on up.
We want to have a shot.
Hey, we need free happy hour.
What kind of a city is it?
I would love for congressmen to say, move, go to San Francisco, playing ludicrous song in the back.
Anyways, okay, that's right.
Americans are raking up Phantom Debt, multiple job holders, primary job, full-time.
Wait, TC the numbers, record-breaking number.
Tom will show you.
Another stat came up that we have to talk about this.
Remember during COVID when they were saying, look, American savings is at the highest it's ever been, $2.1 trillion in savings, and they're paying off their debt.
And you're going to see people's credit card debt is going away.
This is actually a good idea, UBI.
And we said on the podcast, let's just wait a few years and see what American people do with their money.
Because if there's one thing we know is that majority of the population does not know how to save, majority of the population, they're professionals at spending money.
But this data will absolutely shock you when we show it to you.
Percentage of U.S. mortgages considered seriously underwater rises.
Uh-oh.
UNC Chapel Hill Board votes to dismantle DEI programs, uses funds on campus police after anti-Israel protests.
Melinda Gates is officially resigning as co-chair from Gates Foundation.
Then you have suddenly there aren't enough babies.
The whole world is alarmed.
People are not having enough kids.
It's funny.
I have a story to tell about this thing here.
And last but not least, discrimination may cause people to age faster and affect white people.
Most studies suggest.
I got a couple other things here that I want to talk to you guys about.
One of the ones that Vinny's got.
I'm sorry, Tom's got, is the GME and GameStop.
What the hell happened yesterday, right?
With the way the market was reacting to it.
I think they stopped trading four times.
Some say two times.
Some say four times.
And then at the same time, Vinny has an article he wants to read to you guys that has to do with Moderna and AstraZeneca did recently.
Why?
Why not?
We don't know.
We think you should do your own due diligence and talk to a health specialist to see what they would recommend to you.
100%.
People should go to the bottom.
Talk to science.
Talk to a health.
Call Dr. Fauci.
Call your own doctor.
Call your own doctor and do your own studies.
And then I got some stats that I pulled up on homelessness in America on which generation has the most homeless people in America.
It's kind of interesting when you think about which generation.
Then Bill Maher said something about COVID that I'm going to play for you guys that I think was prompted from a podcast that we did last week with Chris.
Seinfeld said something in a speech that I think everybody here would benefit from.
Literally, I think everybody watching this year would benefit from because we need a little bit of positivity and messages.
And I think Seinfeld's giving it.
And, you know, he says, I'm done.
I'm 70 years old.
You're just getting started.
There's a part that I think we all need to listen to.
Here's one of the good news before I make the announcement to you.
Number one, Candace Owens is officially on Manect.
If you want to ask Candace any questions, that is her QR code.
Welcome her to Manect.
She's actually responding back to audio and she's willing to do the video.
Surprisingly, she just doesn't want to do the calls.
But she's responding back in audio and responding back in video.
She's on Manect.
One of these days when we have her on the podcast, well, obviously we'll be launching it with her.
But this is very big news.
You can now ask Candace Owens any questions on Manect, anything that's going on currently.
There's a bunch of different issues.
Go to her Twitter account.
Some of you guys are big fans of her.
You can officially be in direct contact with her through Manect.
Having said that, let's get right into it.
Rob, can you do me a favor and pull up the tweet about the savings?
If you can go to the one I just tweeted to you about $2.1 trillion on what's going on, can you go to the actual tweet first before we show this?
Because the tweet is, just go to my personal account.
The tweet is, so this organization that does research, they show data, which I love what they did.
Just go to the bottom and let's read the data first.
So zooming on to that, just go to their link.
If you could just click on it, Rob.
There you go.
Shocking stat of the day.
This is from Kobechi Letter, okay?
$2.1 trillion of excess savings has been wiped out of the U.S. economy since August of 2021.
From March 2020 until August of 2021, $2.1 trillion in excess savings were built up after $4 trillion of stimulus was sent out.
Now, watch this.
Every month since then, U.S. households have depleted their savings at a pace of $70 billion a month to a $72 billion minus $72 billion in March of 2024 at the same time.
So a lot of people would say, well, you know, they're taking this money and they're paying off their debt.
What's wrong with we're depleting it?
No, no.
U.S. credit card debt has risen from $330 billion to record $1.1 trillion.
While the U.S. savings rates has declined from 3.5% to 3.2%, do you know what this means?
This means a fire sale is coming because when people look at that chart, by the way, look at the amount of savings we had during COVID.
We went from nothing in 2020.
Look at the beginning of 2020.
Screaming roller coaster.
And it skyrockets.
And then they started giving data about the fact that we're paying off credit card that back to minus $72 billion is where we are.
And obviously, the buying out payload stuff is not helping out.
But when somebody runs out of cash and savings, guess what comes next?
Sale.
A fire sale.
And I'm going to talk about some of the other data that Tom's got a lot of commentary to give on this.
But Tom, what do you think about when he said when you shared this with me that day, I was blown away by this?
Go ahead.
So we've been, I've been seeing this coming, and this has been really scary.
And what it means is as COVID stopped, you have to look at the emotion of the consumer.
As COVID stopped, we could, hey, you can come back out and play, you can travel, you can go to restaurants and things like that.
And people got jobs back at restaurants.
Those weren't new jobs.
They just went back to old jobs.
People started spending.
And they had, they forgot how good it felt to have the credit cards paid down, have a little bit of money in the bank, courtesy of the government.
But to them, the emotion of the average consumer, apparently, PBD, was this is free money.
And they spent it and they kept spending it and they kept spending it.
And now we're in a situation where last year it is a fact.
And you can go look this up.
This isn't my opinion.
This is the fact.
Go look at even regular newspapers, USA Today.
You don't have to go study the Wall Street Journal.
It was saying that the American consumer last year saved the economy in 2023 by spending on GDP.
We bought things.
We bought plane tickets.
We bought tickets to Disneyland, which I never go to.
We did all kinds of things like this.
And we saved the economy last year because consumer spending in 2023 was crazy.
But we were spending our savings, racking up credit card debt, using BNPL, buying out payload in the fall.
And now the American consumer is tapped out.
Not completely tapped out, but they're pinched.
So what comes next?
How is the American consumer going to spend its way through the summer of 24 to help the economy?
The answer is they can't.
Maybe defense spending can, but not them.
Tom, this doesn't include their 401k savings.
No, no, no.
Security cash checking account saving account.
That's the other part of the emotion: the stock market did pretty good last year.
So most people probably talking to their HR department, hey, how's our 401k?
You know, the average investment fund.
Oh, it's pretty good.
We had a 22% year.
So that probably is a deception because you see your 401k, hey, honey, my 401k was up 20% at work.
Isn't that pretty cool?
And then you look at your IRA.
Hey, my IRA was up 25% because it was tied to the SP and MAG 7 last year.
Just average people using average index funds that are most of the time, those look pretty good.
So maybe they see those and they feel pretty good, but they're spending the paycheck and they are, as Adam used to say, save that money and they're just living paycheck to paycheck now.
It's a fact.
Adam.
Well, I still say that.
Save that money despite the lack of people listening.
You hit a key word, the American consumer.
What's the root root of consumer?
Consuming.
I would argue that you should be an American saver or an American investor.
I keep things simple.
The rule of three.
Finance is like a traffic light.
You're either red, yellow, or green.
Most Americans, whether it was during Bush, whether it was Obama, whether it's Trump, whether it's Biden, two-thirds of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
It doesn't stop.
So stop focusing on what's going on in the White House.
Start focusing on what's going on in your house.
Most Americans are in debt.
They're living paycheck to paycheck.
They're trying to save that money, but they can't get out of their own way.
Then when you can start saving that money, save 10 grand.
Amazing.
Half of you're like 10 grand.
How the hell am I going to get there?
The other half are like 10 grand.
I got 300 grand in the bank.
But very few people are able to do that.
Once you can get to green, you can become an investor.
Last point.
It's called personal finance for a reason.
It's called personal responsibility for a reason.
It's called self-reliance for a reason because it's on you, bro.
You know, they say 80% of the people don't care about your problems and 20% of the people are happy you have them.
Save that money.
It's a great point there.
And by the way, when you think about the basics of money, right?
The basic principles of money.
Watch what happened here.
So who else is going to be affected by this when you see savings going down?
My dad, I've talked about this many times.
My dad would say, listen, a man without savings is not a man.
There's a part of a man that feels like he lost his manhood when you don't have savings.
He said, always have money nobody knows you have.
Not your wife, not your family, nobody.
When we were about to go out of business, the insurance company, I had a stack, I had a money set aside that nobody knew about.
That's what saved the business.
No, I had $13,000 down to the last $13,000.
If I didn't have that additional money, we are out of business.
There is no value attainment.
There is no PBD podcast.
I'm probably selling gym memberships right now somewhere.
I believe one hell of a gym membership says, don't get me wrong.
Ridiculous.
And by the way, if I worked that lifetime, what is a lifetime fitness?
And that guy was changing in a woman's restroom, it would be a very different.
I would have saved lifetime for this $500 million.
Planet, planet, planet, planet.
I don't want to get it wrong.
Is it lifetime or planet brought?
Planet.
Forgive me.
Lifetime.
Great gym.
Chicago.
I've been to it.
It's great.
Planet.
You screwed up because you revoked a mother's membership because she didn't want her 12-year-old daughter who was shaking in a woman's restroom with a towel around her when a man came in.
You chose a man over a girl that's 12 years old and you lost a half a billion dollars.
How the hell did I go on a rant that was from economy to gym memberships?
But here's the point.
Savings-wise, watch what happens.
How many people were begging to work from home?
A lot of them.
Well, when you give people cash and they pay off their debt and they're sitting at home and every company is worried about losing their employees, you can ask for work from home.
But now savings is depleted.
Guess what?
What are you going to say?
Hey, I walk out of the closet in the office.
Can I just get a desk or something?
What's the point?
Here's the point.
Bullying on both sides is not cool.
It's not bullying when employers bully.
It's not bullying when employees bully.
For the first time, we experience employees bullying employers during COVID in the most dark, deceptive, dirty way.
I had a guy that we gave a raise to.
We hired this guy at, let's just give a round number.
This is not here.
This is the insurance.
This is Texas Time.
You'd remember this story.
We hired this guy and we gave him a salary.
I won't even say the number.
So let's just say it's $50,000.
Okay.
Two months later, he comes and he says, I got an offer for another company.
You got to bump me up to $80,000 or else.
I'm like, is this guy joking?
So like, well, we need him.
We can't get anybody at the center in COVID.
So we went up to $70,000.
Two months later, he comes and says, I got another offer for $120,000.
If you don't pay me $100,000, I'm leaving.
I said, guys, this guy's gone.
He leaves.
The other company that he went to, he ends up not even working out over there and he has to go to a different place.
And eventually people realize, dude, you're not $120,000 a year person.
You're $55,000 a year person.
And you have to go back because you have to prove results.
What this is doing right now, when you see savings depleting to the numbers that it is, there's going to be a lot of desperate decisions being made.
By the way, this leads me to a quick number here.
We've talked about this before, but the level of delinquency on this concept here has to be talked about.
Americans are raking up phantom debt that Wall Street simply can't track.
This is a Bloomberg story.
So folks, listen up.
Here we go.
So the rise of phantom debt is through popular buying up payload.
You keep hearing about BMPL platforms like Affirm Clarina Afterpay, which aren't reported to credit agencies, masks a true picture of American households.
Financial health.
Tim Quinlan of Wells Fargo warns people need to be more awake of the rise of BNPL.
BMPL's lack of transparency stems from a dispute between providers and credit bureaus with BNPL companies resisting data disclosure, arguing it could harm customers' credit scores.
Despite this, the market continues to expand, obscuring economists' understanding of consumer spending and debt.
BMPL's allure of installment payments attracts consumers, but a Harris poll survey reveals, ready, concerning trends, 43% are behind on their buying out payload payments, and 28% are delinquent on other debts due to BMPL spending.
Insanity.
Tom, thoughts on this?
Well, first of all, there's a line in here that capitalist I am.
BNPL companies resisting data disclosure, arguing it could harm consumer credit scores.
It should harm their credit scores if they're already tapped out on their credit cards and BNPL wants to lend them more money and BNPL companies, they want to make money.
They want to loan the money, but they're saying, well, maybe we shouldn't.
We don't want to disclose the data.
We want to do a soft credit review because it could harm the credit scores.
Guess what?
The credit score is like blood pressure or a temperature.
It's a vital sign.
Fair Isaac, FICO, all of that was a vital sign made to test one of the measures of financial health and capability for a consumer.
So when BNPL companies say, oh, we don't want to do data disclosure, that might harm the credit score.
It should harm the credit score because the consumer's borrowing even more money when they already have an average or poor credit score because of their credit card spending in the first place.
And I think what we saw here on the Harris poll, this chart, which I think is up there, everybody can see this right now, Rob?
Take a look at this.
How many of these, and Adam, I'm asking for your opinion here too.
How many of this is the consumer basically admitting they don't have financial education or discipline?
Spent more than I can afford.
Find it difficult sticking to a monthly budget.
Surprised by how much I owe monthly on BNPL.
You couldn't take 500 for a TV, divide by five months and realize that was $100 a month.
How do you figure that?
Falling behind on other lines of credit, gone into debt.
My spending is out of control.
Look at this.
Like three, four, five of these are people openly saying they are absolutely incapable or not educated or out of control.
It's to me, this is a huge issue.
I love it.
I mean, you know, the fact that you're talking about this and seeing what's going on.
Adam, you have some thoughts on this here.
Before I come to you, I want you guys to see this number here that Rob just pulled up.
Impacts of buying out payload.
Users of services reported various ways the products hurt their finances.
Number one, 54%.
Spent way more than I can afford.
Of course.
Number two, worse off financially, 34%.
Find it difficult sticking to a monthly budget.
Surprised by how much I owe on BNPL, hurt my credit score, fallen behind on my other lines of credit, gone into significant debt.
My spending is out of control.
People are going through it.
But as much as you see a report like this, he said something earlier, one can say, it's not fair.
It's BNPL's fault.
It's Klarna's fault.
It's all these companies' fault.
No one forced you to use it.
You chose to use it.
You chose to go buy those gifts during Christmas.
You couldn't afford to buy.
Nobody forced you to make that decision.
Nobody forced me to buy a car I couldn't afford that I eventually lost.
Nobody forced me to do it.
I made that decision to get an expedition with $600 car payment when I was making only $30,000 a year.
I made that choice.
I got into that $49,000.
I had to make some changes.
I had to change the way I looked at money.
I had to change the relationship I had with money.
Unfortunately, many keep blaming other reasons why this is taking place instead of taking full responsibility for it.
And it's not easy to do, but some of us had to do it.
Adam, thoughts on that?
Yeah, well, this buy now, pay later.
I'm a big alliteration acronym, B-N-P-L.
It's buy now, pay later.
It actually is broke now, poor later.
Oh, po precito, Latino, oh my god.
But it's on you at the end of the day.
So there's another term that you should be familiar with.
It was actually on CNBC this weekend.
I was like, okay, I'm pretty astute when it comes to personal finance.
This is a new one.
And they called it money dysmorphia.
I think I sent you a screenshot, Rob.
Money dysmorphia, this is a new term.
And it basically means that you have a distorted perception of your finances and it's running rampant with Gen Z. 41% of millennials, if you go to the other tab, 41% of millennials have this, and it says an uptick in Gen Z.
Now, what is money dysmorphia?
It's a disconnect between your actual financial well-being and what you actually perceive that you have, according to TikTok.
Literally influenced by TikTok feeds.
Thanks, China, for all your well-being.
So we've seen the stats come out there.
Two-thirds live paycheck to paycheck.
50% of Americans don't have 400 bucks for an emergency.
25% of Americans don't have a thousand bucks in savings.
Only 50% of Americans actually invest.
So the choice that you have to make is: do you want to be a part of the rich get richer crew or the poor get poorer crew?
I chose when I was broke as shit, get my mind right, then you get your money right, then the rich get richer.
So what's at end game for all these problems that you guys are saying?
People aren't saving.
They're doing the buy now, pray later.
This is going to lead to something bad.
I know you're talking about the fire sale, but overall, this is increased poverty.
The dependency is going to be on the government.
The economy is going to be messed up.
Housing is going to be messed up.
This is a bubble that's going to pop.
Am I right?
So you're not wrong because there's another story.
Matter of fact, you're the perfect way to transition into what you're talking about here.
We can go to page 12.
Look at this here.
Percentage of U.S. mortgages considered seriously underwater rises.
This is not good, right?
No, this is not good.
So when you're seeing, because nobody thought it was going to happen now, everybody said, oh, this is not going to happen.
This is not going to happen.
That's not going to happen.
Let me read this to you.
So here we go.
Seriously underwater mortgages in the U.S. increased from 2.6% to 2.7% in Q1 of 2024.
With Kentucky experiencing a significant rise from 2% to 8.3%, followed by West Virginia up to 5.4% and Oklahoma from 5.5 to 6.1.
Louisiana and Wyoming had the highest shares of seriously underwater mortgages at 11.3% and 8.8%, respectively, with states like Vermont at 0.8%, Rhode Island, 1.1%.
There's a reason for that.
And New Hampshire, 1.1% exhibit the lowest rates.
The proportion of equity-rich mortgages inclined to declined to 45.8%, marking a two-year low, with Kentucky experiencing a substantial drop from 35.4 to 28.7, along with South Carolina going from 40 down to 40 from 42.4 in Georgia to 43.7 from 46%.
Tom, what's happening here with these loans?
Here's what's happening.
So in certain markets, prices rose really, really fast, like Texas, excuse me, and Florida.
In other markets, the houses went up more moderately.
Remember that spike we all saw right after COVID?
Well, interest rates were jumping up.
So in the markets where the prices didn't go up too quick, guess what happened?
They people went out and bought houses.
And this happened in the rural and moderate markets first.
That's why we're seeing these stats in Kentucky, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Louisiana, Wyoming.
So those people went out and they got six and three quarters and 7% mortgages.
Okay, those are expensive.
And now those markets went down.
And now those markets have gone down.
And now those mortgages are underwater, but they're underwater at higher interest rates.
Those people, guess what?
Those people may not be able to refi because what do you need to refi, Adam?
You need an appraisal.
And if you can't get the appraisal to counter the value of your mortgage, then you're going to be stuck with that 7% mortgage while the value of the home has come down.
So basically, the spike we saw after COVID, people went out and bought homes.
And not a lot of them, because remember, overall home buying was down.
But those that did, now that the prices are retreating, those mortgages are underwater.
And the amount of equity overall in mortgages, that's an equity-rich mortgage.
Oh, I only have my mortgage is only 50% because I have all this equity in my house.
That equity is coming down.
So we're seeing a moderation in prices and people are about to get pinched and they're not going to be able to refi their way out of expensive mortgages.
So underwater mortgage means you owe more, you owe more on the mortgage than the house is actually worth.
Translation, on paper, your down payment is gone.
Oh, damn.
That's not good.
Like you paid, let's say you paid 500 for a house and put 100 down.
Yes.
Now the house is and you had a 400 mortgage.
The minute the mortgage is 399, the house, the minutes the house is 399, the house is worth a dollar less than the mortgage.
And on paper, that 100 you put down.
Why buy?
Yeah.
No good.
This is the problem I have with people that are buying houses.
You think you could just blindly walk into a real estate investment like I just became a millionaire.
It doesn't work that easy.
You know, there's a famous phrase, if it was easy, everyone would do it.
Doesn't work that way.
Rob, pull up that story about impacts of buying out pay later and look at the same thing.
So here's a little fun fact for you.
100% of foreclosures are because people can't afford their mortgage.
If you can't afford your rent, they just kick you out.
Sorry, time to go.
Can't afford your mortgage.
The bank takes over your loan.
You got to go.
So the number one thing that Tom pointed out was, I spent more than I can afford, right?
That also works in buying a home.
Maybe you should have bought a $350,000 home, but you bought a half a million dollar home because you thought that, oh, I don't want to live in this little crappy house.
I want to live in a big house or wherever, depending on whatever they put.
Maybe you should have bought a million dollar house, not a $2 million house.
And then what happened?
Exactly.
Exactly.
And then what happens is you buy them more than you can afford.
You realize, listen, I thought that I can make a $5,000 mortgage payment every month.
What they didn't tell you was like, yeah, you also have taxes.
You also have insurance.
You also have HOA, exactly.
So all of a sudden, this American dream that you've been told lies within homeownership becomes an American night.
I want to say this, though.
I want to say this.
And it's very important for you to get this message, guys, because sometimes you hear a message like this and it's kind of like, dude, I know.
I'm in it right now.
And I feel like shit.
And you're making me feel like even more like shit.
And we don't want to be that.
I don't want to be that.
This is not our brand.
But this is what I do want to tell you.
A part of it for you to be thinking about.
Everybody at this table at one point had nothing going on.
Okay.
Vinny, just a couple of years ago during COVID as a comedian had nothing to do.
He had no work because he's in California as a comic.
Think about it.
Nothing.
They did not let him do his job, which was to make people laugh.
He couldn't make people laugh.
Okay.
Adam, a few years ago, was living on the couch in Denver, Colorado.
What was it, Colorado?
Whatever it was.
Yeah, 20 years ago, but I was broke as hell.
I was my poorest friend, and I had to figure it out.
You had to figure it out.
And he changes life.
He changes ways, right?
Maybe not all the ways, but some of the ways has been changed, right, over the years, right?
Hard to break that happen.
But the point is, Tom, same with him.
He had, for some of you guys, don't know Tom's true story.
One of these days, Tom will tell a story on what he had to overcome early on in his career, and he made the changes.
That's why sometimes the best part about, you know, making the changes to get rid of arrogance, there are not a lot of qualities more unattractive than arrogance.
Maybe somebody that's entitled, maybe somebody that's a victim, maybe somebody that wants to blame everybody, but arrogance gets kicked out of you, God willing, when you hit rock bottom and you lose everything.
All the fame in the world, all the accolades.
You're out.
Oh my God, you're that guy.
Oh my God, you're so, oh my God, look at your car.
Oh my God, look at this.
All of that stuff.
If you buy into that, you're going to go back to where you were before.
So if you're watching this right now for yourself saying, man, what do I do with this?
Everything starts off with habits.
What are your daily habits?
What you're doing, okay?
What are you spending money on?
Literally, go take your credit card and your debit card with you and your wife.
Sit down and go line by line on what money is being spent on and cut them off.
Go on your iPhone.
Do you know on your iPhone, you can go manage your subscriptions on your iPhone?
Do you know how many of us have subscriptions that we no longer do anything with that we haven't used for a year, two years, three years, but you're still paying $10 a month, $8 a month.
It's an app you downloaded, you forgot about.
There's $9.99, $14.99, $29.99.
You can literally go on your phone to manage all the subscriptions on your phone that you're paying for.
Okay, it's not a challenging thing to do.
One must sit down and go through all the stuff they're spending money with.
And then the tough part is I'm talking to this one guy who at one point he was a stud in his business, what he was doing.
He says, man, what do I do?
I said, dude, if you got to do Uber two hours at night from 10 to 1 o'clock for the next six months, you got to do it.
You got a wife and kids.
Pat, you want me to do Uber?
Nobody puts you in this situation.
You're in this situation.
Yeah, you got to get out of it.
You got to go Uber.
I was selling shirts on the corner of Reseda and Nordoff when I had nothing, when I lost it all with my shirt off because the only thing I could advertise was my chest, my biceps, and my abs.
That's the only thing I would advertise everything else, but I could legally advertise that at that time.
Honey, look at that brown guy in the corner.
My number one selling shirt wasn't United, we stand.
That was my number two selling shirt.
My number one selling shirt was Osama Yo Mama.
Oh, really?
Yes.
This is right after you.
I would buy it in downtown for $2 and I would sell $14.15, $24.20.
And people would buy it.
That's how I was making my money to get out of it.
So if you're going through it, you're going to have to do certain things that maybe goes against your ego and pride and it's going to really mess you up.
But nothing is more important than you protecting your family and delivering on your promises.
And that's what you and I are responsible for doing.
We chose to be husbands.
We chose to be fathers.
We chose to be leaders.
And a leader sometimes has to make some decisions and suck up his ego.
It's not an easy thing to do for us, but we have to do it.
Just want to add one thing and quick shout out to Manect because as much as we're helping people, it also gives us the confidence to help you.
But one of the greatest things I've learned from Pat is the concept of sequencing.
Do this before you do this.
Do this before you do this.
Hold on, that's a Q3 thing.
What are we going to do Q1?
You know, the famous, you got to walk before you run, run before you sprint, sprint before you do a marathon, everything like that.
And what I found out is when I'm doing these consultations on Manect, I walk people through these six principles of wealth.
And you know, three card Monty, you've ever seen it when they move like this, this, then, this?
The rule of three, like I said before with this traffic light, there's red, there's yellow, there's green.
Often I times find at times that people are investing when they should be paying off debt.
Because they've been told, oh, get a 401k, but you have a credit card debt of 22%.
Stop investing.
Hey, you should be saving, not investing right now.
Hey, now's the time to invest.
They're doing the sequencing all wrong, and it's just a matter of doing the things in the practical order.
There you go.
And, you know, a guy messaged me on Manect.
He says, Eight years straight, I've lost money on Forex, but I'm losing less money.
What do you think I should do?
That's the question.
I'm sorry.
Are you married?
Do you have kids?
How much money do you make?
Why do you keep doing it?
Who are you learning it from?
Who's teaching you these courses?
How much money are you paying for these courses?
You know, how much have you set aside for your kids?
All this.
And then he says, I make $90,000.
I make $65,000.
My wife makes $72,000.
You know, I'm in a challenging place right now.
And I'm like, why are you trading Forex?
I said, you have an income problem.
Go do something with that.
Increase your market value within your business.
Go learn new skill set so you can bring more value to the company you're working with.
Do you got to do something to take everybody's trying to increase their net worth, but they're not trying to fix their spending and they're not fixing their income.
You need to increase your income to be able to do some of these other things.
Anyways, so next thing I want to show you guys is a video.
Okay.
And, you know, obviously we're friends with them.
So it's not like we have any issues with them.
But Dave Smith, I'm a big fan of this guy.
I think he's a super talent.
And he's a stud.
He's brilliant.
And they have their libertarian conference going on this weekend, I believe, by the way.
They got the libertarian conference.
They're going to choose who their presidential candidates are.
And by the way, a lot of people want this guy.
A lot of people want this guy.
Just don't know if he wants to run or not.
Most libertarians I talked to when I said, who do you want?
75% of the time they say Dave Smith.
For the libertarian community, they absolutely love him.
He's a boss.
He's loved by Joe.
He's loved by many different people.
And he had something to say about the podcast.
Go ahead, Rob.
About not the podcast, about Chris Cuomo.
Go ahead, Rob.
That's when I really completely woke up to the whole thing was when they were firing nurses, nurses who had been working at this point for a year through a pandemic, who had all like 100% of them had either already had COVID or figured out how to protect themselves from COVID.
And it was just like, oh, you're ruining people's lives again.
And the people who were just the heroes just the previous year were the ones everyone was clapping outside their window at five o'clock for.
And they were all making their dumb TikTok videos.
And we were all supposed to be celebrating them for doing their job.
And now you're fine to just ruin their lives because they won't take this next product.
And anybody, anybody being honest through that period of time.
So we're talking early 2021 now should have been able to just see this whole thing for obviously what it was.
And so, no, don't tell me it's like, oh, you didn't know anything then.
You just, you were essentially, I guess, Chris Cuomo is saying, we just made a lucky guess.
We happened to be right and he happened to be wrong.
Like, no, that's not what happened.
We were being honest and looking at the information around us.
You were lying through your fucking teeth to protect powerful people.
That's the difference.
Chris Cuomo, you're saying you're a journalist, dude.
Well, that's the job.
That's the job to not just mindlessly repeat government propaganda, but to actually investigate it.
And all it took was a little bit of suspicion of the government propaganda to run.
And listen, again, we're not even talking about lockdowns here, where Chris Cuomo was absolutely terrible and was pretending to lock himself down while actually going out without a mask.
You know, keep in mind, when Chris Cuomo got caught outside, this was when they were still telling you to wear a mask outside.
Okay.
But this is a full year later we're talking about now with the vaccine.
This is, if you weren't by 2021 skeptical of the government propaganda on this, you're not a journalist.
You're a propagandist.
I don't share text messages or DMs or anything like that, but Chris Cuomo has reached out to me before.
We had a feisty back and forth.
I'll just leave it at that.
But yo, hey, Chris Cuomo, if you really want to go on this, like, you know, like reinventing yourself rehabilitation tour, why not come through me?
Let's sit down.
Come on, Pat.
Set it up.
Let's make it happen.
Pat.
Chris Cuomo can give his take and let me respond to what he has to say.
Let's set up a nice debate over the COVID era policies.
I'll gladly put my track record at part of the problem up against Chris Cuomo's track record at CNN.
And we can discuss whether I actually, like, why I got everything right and he got everything wrong.
Let's have a conversation about that.
I think it would be illuminating for the American people.
And by the way, listen, okay.
So obviously, you know, they've had the conversation together.
And for me, when you see something like this, you know, I like debate.
I want people to talk.
I have a relationship with Chris.
I have a relationship with Dave.
And we get along with almost everybody.
We get along with almost everybody.
There isn't, I can't think of anybody we don't get along with.
No, because you talk to everybody.
You let people talk to people.
We talk to everybody.
And by the way, Anthony Williams.
One week.
By the way, you think if we invited Anthony Weiner back, he would come without even hesitation.
I think he would come up with a bad time.
100% he would come back.
But the point is, but you're right.
Obviously, that was a very disrespectful for sure.
So guess what we're doing?
So here's what I want to tell you.
The announcement is both Dave Smith and Chris Cuoma have agreed to a debate.
Oh, great.
May 31st, Friday night, 6 to 9 p.m.
Friday night, 50.
That is sick.
6 to 9 p.m.
It's official.
It'll be at our comedy club that we have, 5990 Live.
And this is going to be what the people want.
You know, Chris represents one side, and obviously he's gone through certain experiences that he's had.
He's openly talking about potentially long COVID, what that means, all the different things.
And if he had to do it again, he wouldn't have taken a vaccine in 2026 if COVID came back out.
And Dave has a different position.
And they get to sit down and hash it out and talk to each other.
What's interesting is they both like talking to RFK.
They both have had.
Cuoma has RFK on, I don't know, every week almost, it seems like, right?
So there's an affinity.
But I think this is going to be a conversation that'll be going insane on the net around the world.
And by the way, something tells me, I wouldn't be surprised between now and then, the people from the establishment who don't want to see this conversation take place, they're going to do everything in their power to prevent this from taking place.
Fauci being one of them.
Whoever it is.
They're going to be watching.
Within seconds of making this announcement, I guarantee you messages are being sent saying, are you out of your flipping mind?
Don't do it.
Are you out of your flipping mind?
But Chris said, I'm in.
Let's do it.
Let's roll.
Let's talk about it.
Great.
You got to respect the fact.
You've got to respect the fact that somebody says yes.
So by the way, for those of you guys who are on our text community, you get notices before everybody else does.
You know who you are.
For those of you guys that haven't yet registered for this, just go to 5990 Live, buy a ticket, VIP, sell out ASAP, and then it'll be about 185 to 190 tickets.
VIPs will have cigars with us afterwards.
But looking forward to this.
Go ahead, Adam.
I mean, Chris, you got to give Chris Cuomo some credit.
And I know there's some Cuomo haters out there, but he's not backing down.
He's showing up.
He's saying, oh, you have a problem with what I've said or what I've done?
Well, I'm going to show up and defend my position or at least allow me the chance to state my case or evolve my position.
Respect to him.
Respect for him from sitting down with Candace.
Respect for him from being challenged by Dave Smith and showing up.
This is what a man does.
He shows up, even if you disagree with him.
Got to give him credit.
And I've sat down with Dave multiple times.
I hosted a debate, Israel versus Gaza.
He defended Gaza against Laura Loomer.
Super smart guy.
We know how we feel about libertarians.
Great product, horrible marketing, but he's actually a great marketer.
Bro, that's just that's one of those pay-per-view fights that you're not going to like try to download illegally.
You're like, I'm going to watch this.
I'm going to be there.
No, you come to the event.
Oh, 59.
Well, I'm the same people in general.
For people who won't, by the way, this is a discussion.
Like, this is what my interest is.
This is what my interest is.
And this is what I said on the video on when I responded to Cuomo and all the stuff that's been said, Gina, Karana Kuma, all this stuff.
My biggest challenge is the following.
Nobody is talking about China.
China is quietly leaving the club after having killed all these other people and nobody knows and they just got away like Kaiser Sose.
Yep.
Okay.
G is the modern day Kaiser Sose.
He came in.
Now I'm telling you, he's the modern day Kaiser Sosi.
Come on out from the usual suspects, right?
We have a better show called The Unusual Suspects.
Shout out to Vinny and the crew, Robin, everybody else.
But Kaiser Sose came in, Kobashi.
You know, it's this.
Yeah.
It's that is this.
Like, oh my God, who is it?
And it's Chas Palmenteri, right?
And then Kevin Spacey walks out.
That's G. He's just walked out and he says, I cannot believe I killed millions of people.
I divided America.
I destroyed so many people's lives.
I destroyed so many kids' lives in America.
And I fed them when they stayed home with all these TikTok videos.
I increased the transgender in America with their kids.
Look at these morons falling for our trap and we will never be held accountable for it ever again.
That's the part that I'm interested in.
I want that.
And I'm one that I haven't forgotten about what they did to the greatest country in the world, America, and many innocent lives that fell for them.
And meanwhile, we realized during COVID, 80, 85% of the prescription that we, the boomers, the American people, our parents, your parents use, comes from China.
So do you know if these guys really want to hold hostage to us, what could happen?
Do you realize how Apple slowly left China to go to India?
What do you think they're doing?
Do you think Apple and Tim Cook fully trust China?
You think these guys are sitting there saying, oh my God, let's increase the amount of phones we're selling in China?
No.
But there's been zero accountability.
Ray Dahlio and I did a podcast together.
How many years ago was it with Ray Dalio?
That was probably in 2018, 19.
2018, 19 when we had the conversation.
You know, there was a 10-minute conversation with Ray Dahlia.
You know what was the most heated moment with the conversation we had?
Around China.
They have to be held accountable.
I don't like what took place.
I don't like the fact that we used to have different kinds of debates.
Now we have divisive debates.
People actually hate each other.
Like people actually went through a moment of that.
And that's not who we are.
That's not what we're all about.
But it was you.
So I want this to simply be more of a discussion.
I applaud both of these men for agreeing to do this.
Both of them could have said, no, they don't have to do this.
There is no like, you better do this or else.
Both of them chose.
They chose to do this.
I respect it.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be respectful.
I like both of these guys.
I'm looking forward to seeing what's going to happen with this discussion.
Real quick, the China think she, what a great quote.
What a great phrase from Unusual Suspects.
Do you remember what he said about Kaiser Sozi?
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist.
And just like that, he's gone.
The greatest trick Xi and China pulled off is that COVID came in and they started it and it wasn't them.
It wasn't disappeared.
It was in a wet market.
It wasn't us.
And good luck, everybody.
And the real question is, who were they in cahoots with here to have it happen and everybody kissed their ass?
That's even a deeper question because the one guy that held them accountable for trade and said, China's going to do this and China's going to do that, all of a sudden what happened on election year?
That virus comes out of a lab that we're testing the virus to jump gain of function research.
And the main guy behind the whole thing, Dr. Anthony Fauci, is immune.
He's going in front of Congress again, I believe at the end of this month.
And guess FYI, he has Secret Service protection protecting him as if he is in like a president, ex-president, which I think is ridiculous.
He has to be protected because he knows he knows what he's done.
Well, I can't wait for this, PBD, and I'm really, really happy that this is happening because when you have got controversy and division, the way out starts with a conversation and value tame live.
We got another conversation starting here.
So come check it out because understanding is what comes out of a conversation and you can reach new levels of understanding even when people are on two sides and with a lot of division.
But you got to start with a conversation, not with censorship.
And that's what we're putting on stage.
Yeah, I love it.
There you go.
I'm excited about it.
Friday night lights, baby.
Friday night lights.
Let's go.
And yeah, who knows?
Maybe we'll even have a cigar while we're doing this.
I don't know.
Maybe we got to bring the humidors over there.
I don't know what we got to be doing.
I know Vinny loves cigars, but it's a whole different story.
Let's make it special.
Let's get some high-end food trucks.
Let's get a lot of stuff going here.
Let's make it a special night, man.
We will definitely do that, Tom.
And I mean, I don't know if we're going to go as special as you wanted to go to.
I'm not willing to commit to that kind of stuff to bring CBD trucks.
No, Tom.
But I think we'll bring some high-end food.
I'm not committed to CBD because that'll be a different kind of a podcast.
It helps people kind of loosen up their mind to listen to the conversation.
Yeah, but we will not have this.
You see, I knew Tom was going there already, but people only knew about Tom.
Yeah, and we could have the Oreo and chocolate milk truck.
Yep.
Okay, so let's go to another story here.
Tom, tell us what the hell happened with GameStop, with GME stock yesterday.
Give us an update on what happened yesterday.
So Roaring Kitty, we all saw the movie.
We all know the history of Wall Street Bets and Roaring Kitty, who was this icon of the meme stock, specifically meme stocks.
When you see that in the headlines, they're talking principally about AMC and first and foremost, the king of the memes, GameStop, GME.
And what happened?
Roaring Kitty posted something yesterday, PBD, and it was a little comic of a drawing of showing a kid playing a game and with a red arrow leaning forward.
What this symbol is, you see this, Adam?
Yep.
What this symbol is, means the game just got serious.
So you start in the layback position in your chair, and now the game is getting intense.
Whether you're playing Madden football or FIFA, whatever it is, Call of Duty, boom.
And when you show the lean forward, it means this just got serious.
So Roaring Kitty is sending a message to his minions.
This just got serious, and I'm back.
And they started trading, and GME took off.
They had to stop it four times yesterday because the volume and the purchasing, you know, were going up so fast and they were trying to keep the markets had to stop because it's like the car was going too fast and it couldn't keep up with the trade volume.
And so they had to do that.
And then last night, it closed out at, I believe, 32, 33.
And then the overnight trading, it was as high as 70.
And where did this open?
We got it right now because the market opened at 9:30, right?
And here we are at 55.
So we're up 25 over yesterday already right here.
So basically, it's on again.
And GameStop is being driven by demand volume right now.
Roaring Kitty is back.
The game got serious.
He and everybody chased him.
And the volume is driving the price up because there's only so many shares on the market.
That's the supply.
Roaring Kitty lights the fuse again.
Here comes the demand.
Demand higher than supply.
Prices go up.
There you have it.
If you didn't see the movie, it came out.
Well, the story actually happened early 2021.
Roaring Kitty, his real name is Keith Gill.
I want to say in the movie, his brother was played by Pete Davis.
And there he is, Keith Gill.
Pete Davidson paid his brother.
I actually interviewed in 2021 the founder of Wall Street Bets, where this all sort of happened on was Jamie Rogosinski.
He was the founder.
He's no longer running Wall Street Bets.
But this all kind of happened, and we learned a lot of new phrases.
We learned about what a short sale is.
We learned what these hedge funds do.
We learned about what Robin Hood stood for.
Vlad Tenev with his long black hair and what he kind of stood of.
Robin Hood is now sort of which was a leading candidate for millennial and Gen Z investing is now just completely almost irrelevant at this point.
GameStop became a meme stock, a trending stock to buy.
This guy became a cult hero, Roaring Kitty.
But we also saw that these hedge fund guys, the Ken Griffins of the world, the Gabe Plotkins of the world, these and Seth, Seth, not Seth Dillon, that's Seth Rogan, was Seth Dicken as the pump-long beef.
Seth Rogan played him in the movie, lost millions and millions and millions of dollars.
Because correct me if I'm wrong, Pat, when you do a short sale, the losses can be infinite.
Infinite.
Right?
You just, there's no stop.
As the stock goes up and up and up and you short sell it, as the stock rises, you lose and you lose and you lose.
And it gets seriously ugly.
We saw Seth Rogan.
Ackman got caught up in this.
Was Ackman in it too?
Yes.
Did Ackman get caught?
Ackman's the one that lost a lot.
There was somebody that lost a few billion dollars that had to come to Ben and also Gabe Plotkin.
Yeah, those are all Ken bail them out because Ken had the real money.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And then we saw that.
When the clock runs out on your short, like a 90-day short, that day, you're screwed.
And we saw guys like Dave Portnoy just rail on Vlad Tenev about Robin Hood.
Now you start Andrew Tate did a tweet the other day about how he's doubling down on GameStop.
So it's interesting.
At the end of the day, this is not how you should be investing.
This is sort of gambling.
It's like going to the casino, but it's fodder, it's news, it's headlines, and it's evidently not going away.
He's leaning in on it.
Penny, final thoughts on this?
What's a stock?
So you mean to tell me, well, I concur with everything that you guys have been saying.
So you mean to tell me just a guy just can randomly put a meme of any stock?
Like, let's say he didn't pick GameStop.
Let's say he picked whatever and just puts a meme and says, hey, guys, go buy it.
Everybody's going to go buy it and it's going to go up.
Have you heard of shit coins and yellow?
And Roaring Kitty was that guy, but he's an influencer.
People are willing to follow.
And yes, a guy can do that.
And if enough of a crowd follows, this is what happens.
So what I'm saying is, let's just say that you have a stock right now.
What's to stop a company from going up to this Roaring Kitty guy and go, hey, in a couple months, do us a favor.
Here's $10 million.
Go put a meme of a guy leaning forward in something, whatever, to make our stock go up.
Who's going to stop them?
How many views?
$25, $20, almost $25 million.
$24 million.
So you feel me, Battle?
Let's just say you have a company that does, you know, whatever, these signs.
If Roaring Kitty does another meme and says, guys, buy this, what does that mean?
Well, I'll tell you, the number one thing that anyone can have is their reputation.
This guy has earned the right to say, listen to me, because he has two things that are irreplaceable: authenticity and credibility.
They trust him.
So good luck getting Sam Bakeman freed to advocate for your new company or the Fire Festival guy.
This guy's earned the right to say, listen, guys, I know what I'm doing.
Follow me.
I got your back.
Let's roll.
Why can't Nancy Pelosi take a paper at these books?
Why can't Nancy Pelosi start posting memes so we can make $150 million?
Well, there actually is a Nancy Pelosi tracker.
Adam, isn't there a Nancy Pelosi?
Yeah, of course.
Stock tracker.
Come on, hey, Nancy, if you're listening, hook a brother up.
What are you doing?
Again, reputation, credibility, and authenticity.
And by the way, Sam Bay.
She don't got us.
He's now in prison where he's known as Samantha.
Yes.
Samantha Beckman.
That was actually good, Tom.
Good.
Okay, so there you have it.
So the GameStop folks, the one thing about them is, man, I mean, how do you not learn your lesson that these guys are around and they can't stand you and they want to do whatever they can to hurt you?
Very simple.
So these rebels with a cause are not going away.
Okay, so let's listen to what happened as Donald Trump allegedly talks hush money.
Rob, if you have the video clip, if you can play that of what just happened here, go for it.
So we got served from the New York Times.
I told you this to unseal the divorce papers with Ivana.
We're fighting it.
Kasowitz is going to never be able to get that.
Never.
Never.
Cassowitz doesn't ever be able.
They don't have any account of this.
They don't have anything to do with this.
This is Michael Cohen.
Secretly recording his client.
What a potential president.
For about two, three weeks now.
All you have to do is delay it for.
Even after that, it's not going to ever be open.
So you're a lawyer to your client.
You're recording your client.
So that goes to show you how much of a piece of trash Michael Cohen has been and still lists to his dad.
How does he decide to say that?
He did not go to jail.
Convicted felon lying to Congress.
He did go to jail.
I want to hear this.
For context, you just hear it.
I can't hear you.
You can't hear me.
See if I'm on now.
Okay, go for it.
For context, the first two minutes of this clip is Donald Trump on a private phone call.
So Michael Cohen's in the room recording his client on a private phone call, and that becomes court record because then he also talks about the hush money in this clip.
But it's still wrong.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
But he's taping his client on private phone calls.
So is that disbarable?
That has to be a you could get he went to jail.
Yeah, but the hell with him.
He should have been disbarred.
Well, go ahead.
I don't think he's practicing law.
Correct.
He's on TikTok.
Yes.
And it's all for about two, three weeks now.
All you have to do is delay it for.
Even after that, it's not going to ever be opened.
There's no purpose for it.
Told you about Charleston.
I need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend David so that I'm going to do that right away.
I've actually come up and I've spoken to Alan Weiselberg about how to set the whole thing up with funding.
Yes.
And it's all the stuff.
All the stuff.
Because you never know where that company never knows.
Correct.
So I'm all over that.
And I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be, listen, what if I answer?
We'll have to pay you.
So I'll pay the kid.
No, I got no, no, no, Jeff.
Hey, Donald, how are you?
Wow.
Lots of thoughts on this one.
First of all, he is a scumbag.
This is my opinion.
Michael Cohen is a scumbag that they're using him to try to get Trump on something.
Do you understand what this is like?
That's like going to your psychiatrist, Tom, and you're revealing everything and he's recording everything that you're saying for one day to be able to use it again.
Like that, that is the most immoral, disgusting, like just shows who his character is.
You said he's a convicted how many times?
Like, because he went to jail.
He went to jail.
I don't know why he's on, but he is, it is accurate to say he's a convicted felon.
And it is.
And there are reports in the New York tabs, and I haven't seen no one's published a contract or published a proposal.
But supposedly right now, he is out there shopping like a reality show.
And he's using all this material, supposedly, as a package to get a TV show and to make money, which is legal to do if he sells it while he's in prison.
It's legal to sell his biography.
It's legal to sell this.
But he's trying to make a buck off of this.
If these reports are true, that he's out there trying to sell it, which is not really surprising and kind of in line with his character, but it just shows you the level of the guy he is.
Yeah, and I can't believe they'd let you play that in a private reported message.
Curtis, who is this?
What?
Yahoo Entertainment.
Yahoo Entertainment is reporting it.
Fixer Michael Cohen is shopping a reality show, A La the Apprentice.
You know, while he's testifying against the former president as a convicted felon.
And you know that.
A beacon of humanity and a citizen example this is.
And you know the name of the show.
It's called The Fixer.
So he's leaning into his role of being this dubious, shady, bad guy that will make on his clients.
And does he have kids?
Yes, he's married with kids.
He's still married.
Yeah.
I remember him giving an interview years ago about my family, my kids, my wife.
I don't know if they're still together.
They should be proud.
Hold their head.
But it just, you know, everyone thinks that it's all about Stormy Daniels and the sex and the allegations.
And you saw that even Bill Maher basically fact-check her.
He interviewed her in 2018.
And she's like, listen, it was completely consensual.
There was no issues.
And now she's like, I don't know why I did it.
I felt weird.
Exactly.
And then he basically rolled the tape and he's like, well, you said this.
And now she's basically saying he's bigger than me.
He's stronger than me.
He locked the door using all the buzzwords from the Me Too movement.
I don't know if you can play this clip, but it's more than just Stormy.
There's a cast of characters here.
There was also McDougal.
What's her name?
Kathy McDougal?
Karen.
Karen McDougal, actually, gorgeous girl.
She was a playmate.
She was a playmate of the year.
You look here, breaking news, guys.
Allegedly, Donald Trump cheated on Melania.
Allegedly.
Stormy, Karen McDougal.
You know, my argument would be like, she kind of knew she was marrying when she married billionaire Donald Trump, who also owned the Miss USA World Pageants and everything like that.
But there's also this guy, David Pecker, who's the CEO of, I think it's called American Media.
They own tabloids like the National Inquirer.
And what's famous about him is he does these catch and kill stories where it's like, we got this story about Stormy.
We got this story about McDougal.
It's going to cost you X amount of money to make the story go away.
And then the other guy is Alan Weiselberg, who was the CFO of Trump Enterprises.
And they would basically cut checks and do these things.
Here's the thing.
At the end of the day, there's nothing really illegal about this.
You might say that it's shady.
You might say that it's immoral.
But paying off people hush money, I don't think that's illegal.
We're about to find out.
What did Vivek say yesterday?
That if you reverse engineer the story and if you do it the other way around, then they basically proves that there's nothing wrong with that.
So if you actually reported the money that you spent on the hush money as a campaign contribution, like they're going to come after you either way.
So we're going to see what happens here.
We know that Eric Adams is ready to lock up Trump.
It's all, I think, a lot of smoke and mirrors here.
But the interesting thing about Melania, because everyone's like, oh, Melania should leave him.
Oh, my God.
You know, she even came out and said that she deemed his lewd comments locker room talk.
You know what's funny about Melania?
You know, there's the famous song, stand by your man.
She's still with him.
Good.
Now, they got married in 2005.
They're about to have their 20-year anniversary.
She's still with him.
And he's running again in 2024.
She's still with him.
They have one child, Baron Trump.
You've spent a lot of time with Baron.
Funny, quirky, good dude.
But here's what's interesting.
You know how long he was married to Ivana Trump for?
1977 to 1990, 13 years.
She's the mother of Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, and, you know, allegedly the favorite child, Ivanka.
You know how long he was married to his second wife, Marlon Maples?
Only six years, 1993 to 1999.
They had the daughter, Tiffany.
So as much as Melania, oh my God, I can't stand him.
Oh, my God.
Are they sleeping in separate?
All the stories, they're about to have their 20-year anniversary, and she's sticking with Trump.
Got to respect it.
By the way, for people who have been married and are married, marriage is very hard to, especially then being married to a figure like him with the reputation like him and the personality like him.
Melania didn't marry someone she didn't know who it was.
So it's not like, oh, I'm marrying a saint.
And no, no, she knew who she was marrying.
He had a reputation of being a guy who loved women in New York and all over the place.
And so sometimes when you marry somebody like that, that comes with the territory.
Tom, you're trying to say something.
Yeah.
The phrase hush money is a sensationalist headline term.
What it is, is an NDA and a settlement and a release.
And it happens every day.
When you have a small business and somebody's upset and they have a fight and you have to say goodbye to an employee and you say, I'll tell you what, we sign a mutual release.
I'll give you one month with medical and you go away.
That's a settlement, an NDA, and a release.
So technically, that's hush money.
But you don't talk about us.
You don't talk about you because it's all for the best.
Employee goes off to get another job.
Company goes and continues.
Sometimes companies have situations with an executive, you know, behaving badly.
The settlements CBS did on Less Moon Vives, you could call them hush money.
It happens all the time.
And they are taking one instance of something that is on a scale of one to 10, about a one or a two on this scale.
And it's being blown up because it's a political hit.
This happens a lot.
And I think we need to get over it in terms of the sensationalized part of it.
And America, look at it for what it is.
This is a political hit.
And these things happen all the time.
Rob, do you have the clip of when he comes out and starts talking about the polls?
Do you have the clip when he comes out?
He literally comes out and starts talking about the polls.
I'll read it to you.
Trump leads in five key states as young and non-white voters express discontent with Biden.
Okay.
You'll find the clip.
He's just coming out.
It's literally coming out the courthouse.
So recent poll, this recent poll by New York Times, Sienna College, and Philadelphia Inquirer revealed that Donald J. Trump leads President Biden in five critical battleground states, ready?
Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Pennsylvania among register voters.
Trump's lead underscores a significant shift in demographics with him winning over more than 20% of black voters and essentially tying Biden among 18 to 29 year olds and Hispanic voters, despite them largely favoring Biden in 2020.
While Biden maintains his lead among register voters in Wisconsin, the race is tighter among likely voters, indicating a challenging path to reelection for Biden.
Additionally, dissatisfaction with the economy and the cost of living remains high, with over 50% of voters considering the economy poor despite recent stock market gains and cooling inflation.
The polls are highlighted as a desire for change among voters, with nearly 70% expressing a need for more changes in the political and economic system, Tom.
Well, you know what?
The Democrats crowed when they said we really didn't, and they did.
You can find the headlines of it, where certain Democrat strategists says, all we have to be is not Trump.
Remember that?
Remember that run, Vinny?
Oh, all we have to do in this election is be not Trump.
Isn't it freaking interesting that now a percent of voters that had voted for Biden, that are liberal now leaning center, that now they're voting for not Biden?
The smart voters are looking at who's best for the economy, who's going to be best at the border, who's going to be best on defense, who's going to be best on draining the swamp.
And you don't think that Trump's got a different cabinet coming?
You don't think he's got different programs coming?
Then you're crazy.
And guess what's happening?
People are seeing it.
They're seeing through the ruse.
And now the crosstabs on all these polls, what the crosstabs is, is exactly what Pat just read.
When you read into the polls and you say, okay, okay, big poll, you know, 54% this, 48% this.
Okay, what's in the poll?
Let's take it in.
The crosstab is who is in the poll and what are they saying?
And guess what we're discovering?
These young people, people of color, are saying, you know what?
I don't like what I bought.
I want to return it.
You know, I bought Biden.
You know what?
I don't like that.
And you know what?
Now I have a way to compare.
And for the first time, and Vivek said it, for the first time since Grover Cleveland, if you don't know who Grover Cleveland was, he was a guy that was president once and there was a gap in between his two presidencies.
They are able to say, I had the choice, Trump versus Biden, and I could compare him.
And I took Biden.
Now I've got a choice, Trump versus Biden again.
I can compare him again.
The same two.
And now it's time to say, do you like what you're bought?
No.
And inside these polls, people are saying, you know what?
I don't like it.
And now I'm going to buy something else.
It's almost like that buy now, pay later, Tom.
They voted now and now they're paying.
Well, under Biden, that was buy now poor later with what he did to the CNPL.
Vote now pay later.
Pay later.
This is doing it.
Play later.
Vote now paying later.
Watch this here.
This is he's coming out of the court.
And watch this.
Go ahead and play this.
They've kept me here for three and a half, four weeks instead of campaigning.
And yet we still have the best.
Poll numbers just came out in the New York Times, as we discussed before.
Mark, they're doing great.
They've kept me here for years.
He's following.
He's following, and the audience in a marketplace is realizing.
You know, I'm about case studies.
I love case studies.
One of the things when you go get an MBA, I went to a program for a couple of weeks.
We did like 20, 30 case studies.
Apparently, when you get an MBA, you do 200, 30, 400 case studies of different businesses.
Imagine the case study they're going to do of the 20, 2016 separate case study, 2020, separate case study.
And by the way, these are three separate case studies.
Let me explain it to you.
2016, guy who's a non-politician, billionaire TV guy comes and beats the person that everybody thought was going to be the first female president of all time, which is who?
Hillary Clinton.
What a case study.
2020, COVID, Biden record-breaking 81 million votes.
Case study.
One guy's going out, 50, 60, 80,000 people during COVID are showing up.
BLM protests.
The other one's showing up.
22 people are showing up.
But the guy with 22 people showing up wins.
2024.
They're going through.
This guy is going to have three, the top three.
You know how you look at UFC and the biggest pay-per-view tickets ever sold?
It's what?
Three out of five or four out of five is who?
Connor regrets.
Connect, of course.
And then you go look at boxing.
Four out of four biggest pay-per-views ever sold.
You know who it is, four out of four?
It's all Mayweather.
It's not Tyson.
Money.
It's not Holyfield.
It's Mayweather 444.
The top three case studies for presidential election of all time, it's all going to be Trump.
And it's going to be written about, criticized, talked about, documentaries, movie shows for decades.
I'm telling you, Vinny, I'm going to call you.
Vinny, move at it.
H.B.D. Azak, Azak, movie plot, Donald Trump.
Qasim Brayla.
Qasim Brayla.
Azak, we're going to be 84 years old.
Oh, my God.
Sitting at the movie theater.
Movie La Nasha has some bad paper podcasts.
Did you translate that for us?
Well, just we're going to be like, dude, can you believe it?
They're making another movie about Trump.
Let's go.
I'm like, oh, my back hurts.
But he makes a great point.
And it's like, but the tactics of the left, the tactics of the left, every single thing has backfired.
They've had this four years to basically show the world, hey guys, to hell with Trump.
You know, he was going to destroy everything.
Look at what we've done.
And then now, this case study that you're talking about for four years, zero, absolutely nothing.
They've bankrupted us.
They've given money all over the world.
We have no security.
Economy is shit.
Houses, people are struggling.
And I just hope, I just hope they let this be a fair and free election because to me, they seem way too calm.
Because when I see Adam, when I see the polls, and I see, I'm not a big poll guy, strippers or whatever, but when you see, when you see 48%, it's neck and neck.
What the hell of this 48%?
What are you?
Are you blind?
Are you stupid?
I don't understand.
I don't.
How is it a neck and neck race?
Unless you're the top, top 1% and you're chilling, which that doesn't make up the 48%.
What are you talking about?
Are you that blindly loyal to a shitty party that doesn't give a damn about you, doesn't give a damn about the country?
I just don't understand.
Not all of them are.
That's what Pat Wert read in those numbers.
Not all of them are.
Some of them are getting smart.
You should give them credit, Vinny.
They're coming across.
They're coming across slowly, unlike the border, where they come across fast.
But that's probably one of the issues of the election.
But there are people coming across back to the center and they're saying they don't like it.
So your question is correct, 100% correct.
But give credit to the voters that are coming across and tell them to bring their friends.
Well, this is the beauty of America and the beauty of democracy: it allows you to be bipolar and allows you to have buyers' remorse.
I know Vinny still can't comprehend that elections are close in America.
It's crazy to me, but you'll figure it out.
But it's a race to the bottom.
Trump's at 41.
Biden's at 40.
Breaking news, y'all.
It's going to go into October, November, and there'll be some sort of October, November surprise.
But the swing states will tell them all.
There's 100,000 people in America that decide elections.
They all live in Detroit, in Philly, in Madison, Wisconsin, in Nevada, in Georgia, in Macon County.
Like, that's who runs America.
We all know that certain people are going to vote right and certain people are going to vote left.
It's all about convincing the people that shift from Bush to Obama to Trump to Biden to go back to Trump to come back here.
But that's the beauty of America.
Would you rather be in Russia, in China, in Iran, or in Gaza, where they literally don't hold elections or they're sham elections?
It allows you to have buyers' remorse.
And we all know that the single most important issue for the Democrats are abortion and the threat to democracy.
And on the right, it's basically the borders, safety, security, and the economy.
But the odds are in Trump's favor.
He's still slightly ahead of Biden.
Two weeks ago, it was, I think if you bet $100 on Biden, you'd win $125.
That's a five to four odds.
Now it's 11 to 10.
So meaning if you bet 100 bucks on Biden, you win 110.
Trump is even money.
But Trump is like, you saw Ice Cube just come out and say something.
Trump's like an ice pick.
He's picking away at certain voters.
He's picking away at blacks, at Latinos, at independents.
He's picking away chip, chip, chip.
And the way that politics works, it's a coalition by addition.
And the Democrats have always been a big tent party.
Everyone's coming in.
But it looks like, based on what Biden's doing, there's going to be a rainout and people are leaving the tent.
But I'm shocked that you're shocked that I think it's a close race.
And I guess I understand close races, but in the history of the United States presidential elections, has anything been this big of a change?
Here we go.
No, no, I'm being that serious.
Has it ever been, Adam?
Has it ever been?
Vinny, it all depends on who you ask.
If you're living in a bubble and you're only speaking with a certain elk of people, then you're immune to the fact that other people have concerns.
Here's the reality.
Go ahead.
I know you're not a big poll guy.
Yeah.
Just look at the polls then.
No, this is become a poll.
Some polls with Hillary?
You mean those same pollsters?
Because I'm asking you, you still haven't answered my question.
In the history of the United States of America, has it ever been this big of a shit show, meaning from 2016 to right now, all the shit surrounding what they've done to him, all the cheating, election interfering, the fraud, the jail, the trying to, it's, no, no, no, it's.
It's never been like this.
And for half the country to be like, yeah, to hell with that guy.
I can think of a few times that it kind of got uglier than this.
I don't know.
In the 1860s, there was that little war between the North and the South.
It got pretty ugly then, Vinny.
I'm talking about.
But then in the 1960s, exactly.
When Tom was growing up in the vote 60s, it was ridiculous.
Him and Lincoln.
Where was Tom when Lincoln got assassinated?
I did not say the guy's first address.
I was in the 1960s.
We don't need to raise our voices.
Tom, give me your thoughts.
Respond to Vinny.
So what Vinny is talking about, he says, hey, you know, I'm confused.
And it's kind of what I was saying to you a minute ago.
You say, I can't believe it's this close.
Well, it is this close.
It is.
But when you look at the states that are outside of this, it's not that close.
And you look at the swing states, it's increasingly not that close.
Vinny, what it takes for it to be that close is large, entrenched masses of liberal humanity in California, New York.
That's a national poll.
And by the way, have you noticed how few, and I'll tell you, Vinny, you know, the Electoral College, we add up all the states, we elect the president, right?
Yes.
And then other people say, well, screw the Electoral College.
It should be the popular vote.
Let's just do the whole thing.
Have you noticed how few liberals are talking about the Electoral College over the last 60 days?
Try to find the stories.
There's only a few of them.
Very few of them.
You know why?
Because they don't want it either way because they're staring into the headlights of a loss as long as they're not.
They want to get rid of the electoral college.
Yeah, because the Democrats win the popular vote every single time, but they lose the electoral college.
Not every single time.
It's happened recently.
Last time the Republican won the popular vote.
Find that out.
Yeah.
Well, Tom, here's the thing.
Tom, it's just odd to me.
And we keep talking about the case study of Donald Trump and the case study of Biden for anybody.
I don't give a shit about the loyalty of the party.
For anybody to go, Joe Biden, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
You just hate Trump.
So you're going to vote for Biden because nothing.
If you could tell me one positive thing that's happening in this country, I'll shut my mouth.
One positive thing.
Nothing is going right.
It's just odd to me.
It boggles my mind that people are still like, I don't care.
Donald Trump.
It's a case study.
You already know who's better by far.
It's not even a close by comparison.
So it just boggles, it just drives me nuts, Tom.
That's it.
That it's ever going to be that.
For some people, Vinny, they're just, and you're right.
But for some people, they're just entrenched and logic takes a holiday until they feel the pain personally.
And we're seeing people making videos.
We're seeing amazing videos coming out of people that you wouldn't think would be speaking this way that are giving chapter and verse of what they're personally experiencing.
You're right.
You know what?
That's why people are listening to this podcast.
That's why so many people are listening because we're opening up to the center.
We're putting things on the table that they haven't seen before.
And Vinny, I'm actually, I'm with you.
Like, I know you're genuinely.
I know you.
I understand your frustration.
I'm happy to be here for the intellectual intervention of Vinny with politics and polling.
But this is the reality of America.
Most people focus on personality, not policy.
So when they see Trump, oh, orange man bat.
It's a gut feeling.
They can't get over it.
Trump derangement syndrome.
It's real.
Is it real or fake?
It's 100% real.
And then so I know that you're going to be like, I can't believe.
I can't believe.
Start believing.
That's the reality that we're living in.
No, I believe it.
And I feel bad for them.
Tom, what's this?
Take a look at this, Vinny.
What happened in Georgia?
They had a case.
In the middle, what you don't realize happened is how pissed off Georgia outside of Fulton County is.
Vinny, go look at that poll in Georgia.
It's 49% now towards Trump.
To what?
To Donald Trump.
To who's the other guy?
39 to Biden.
Look at that spread.
That's because they ran that case and it was in the Atlanta Journal Constitution.
It was in the face of all those people in Georgia and they got pissed off.
You're seeing that.
Guess what?
They didn't like that.
And now, see, the spread is happening.
And now Wisconsin is a little bit more than that.
Look at Nevada.
Nevada, I don't remember the last time going back to Reagan that Nevada was actually won by a Republican.
You look at the last because there's massive unions that are in Las Vegas and Harry Reid used to control all that.
Well, now take a look.
Look at what's happening in Nevada.
And then in Michigan, look at the spread.
Look how close it was under Hillary.
Look at Arizona.
Who cares about the border?
A lot of people in Arizona.
Look at Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania is the one they fear.
Because if he, Biden must win Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and one other.
And the one other, pick one that you think you're going to go after.
They don't even put North Carolina on this list anymore.
You know why?
Because the pollsters are looking at it saying to don't even think about it.
Don't even think about acting.
And Biden won North Carolina.
Just these are the most important people in America.
There used to be seven.
He's saying these are the states that you're going to see in the final month of the election that they're going to be circling the wagons, going to each and every one of these states.
We saw that Hillary made the mistake of going to the Southwest and Nevada and to Arizona when she should have been in Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
And let's see if Biden makes that same mistake.
I believe Pennsylvania will determine the election because I believe that North Carolina, Georgia, and Arizona are a done deal unless something really weird happens.
And it also has the most electoral votes out of any of these states.
Well, yeah.
And by the way, if you were to look at the map, I should do something on polling and kind of break all this down because right now, Tom?
Right now, Trump's within like eight electoral votes and they all know it.
And Pennsylvania puts it over, whereas Biden needs to get the three.
He needs Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and one other.
And he doesn't have it.
So we'll see.
This is the part where Trump is getting out there and talking about the fact that he said he's in Jersey.
He's giving a speech.
He said in Jersey, he said, I think I wouldn't be surprised if we win 50 states.
Now, he's a salesman, of course.
So he's selling.
And he's selling all day long.
Winning 50 states means you're winning California.
You know what it is to win California?
Rob, is this the one or no?
It's about flipping New Jersey.
Yeah, can you play this?
It's actually hardest to flip Hawaii, by the way.
Oh, really?
As you can see today, we're expanding the electoral map because we are going to officially play in the state of New Jersey.
We're going to win the state of New Jersey.
It's crazy.
This guy's wild.
100,000 people.
But I'm telling you, this is going to be the greatest, one of the greatest case studies ever.
Three of them.
I don't think people fully realize what we're in right now because we're in it.
When you're in it, I used to tell my guys all the time, I'm like, guys, we're trying to build the insurance company and we were in a very, very hard, tough season.
Very.
Like, we are like, I don't know what's going to happen in this season.
I said, just trust me on this.
You're going to miss this season because the season is going to go very quickly.
You're going to be rich.
I said, and when you become rich, from there on, you're going to talk about these seasons, right?
Meaning, right now, in this season, it is insane.
It is dark.
It is nasty.
It is ugly.
But 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 years from now, they're going to talk about the season.
Play Ice Cube's clip.
Let's see what Ice Cube's saying here.
Go for it.
Do you think that we are seeing waning support for President Biden?
What can you tell us about the black community and the voter out there who's watching such a divisive situation going into the 2024 election, Cube?
Well, you know, everybody's different.
So there's really no way to kind of put your finger on what everybody's thinking.
But I know a lot of people see billions and billions of dollars going everywhere but in the hands of, you know, the people that helped build this country.
So, you know, I think that's a factor.
I think all politicians have to deliver.
You know, no more lip service.
I don't think people are going for that no more.
People want results.
And if you don't, if you don't give results, then, you know, your popularity, your approval rating, all those things start to wane.
Well, you're right.
We've got money going to Ukraine, money going to Israel.
You've got money going to young people in the form of, you know, this administration wanting to forgive their student loan debt.
And yet the black community, the Hispanic communities are wondering, you know, why they can't get a leg up.
What needs to happen, Cube?
I think it needs to be a change in philosophy.
You know, it's cool to try to help the world, but Americans need help here.
You look around, cities are struggling everywhere.
People are struggling.
And it doesn't look like it's getting any better.
It looks like it's getting worse.
So, you know, I think that alarms everybody.
And, you know, when people are alarmed, they want to make a change.
Yeah.
By the way, so what's his name?
Cuba Gooden tells me a story.
He says, when I'm on Boys in a Hood, he says, it's the first gig I get, right?
He says, and they tell me it's going to be with Ice Cube.
Okay.
And Ice Cube in 1988 has the album that comes out straight out of Compton, I believe.
Can you check to see when Rob, you should know one straight out of Compton?
Rob, what year was it?
Tom or Rob.
Yeah.
19 straight out of Compton.
Which one is there?
Type in Ice Cube's first album.
Ice Cube's first album.
What year is it?
Is it what year is it?
Zoom in America.
Go to the right.
See if Zoom in shows what year it is.
Okay, 1990.
Okay.
So, and they're shooting the movie right around that time.
And Cube is a tough guy, right?
Like Cuba Gooden Jr., right?
And Cuba says, I go to Ice Cube and I say, yo, O'Shea, what are we going to do with this movie?
He says, come here.
I said, well, I said, come here, I got to tell you something.
He says, you don't call me O'Shea.
You call me Cube.
Moving forward, you don't say O'Shea never.
And he says, from there on, I call them Cube.
And he says, there's a scene, which is hilarious.
He says, Cube comes and says, Look, man, I need your help.
Cuba's like, what do you need your help with?
He says, when my brother dies, you know, I don't know how to cry.
I'm not a crier.
What do I do in that scene that they want me to cry?
Because I'm the kind of guy that just doesn't cry.
And he says, why don't you think about all the homies you lost?
Okay.
He says, that's all you have to say.
So then when he goes and does that scene with the body and you see Cuba reacting the way he does, he says Ice Cube in that moment thought about the homies he lost.
And his reaction comes from a genuine standpoint of, my God, you know, I lost.
Can you imagine?
And by the way, do you know what they pay Cuba for the movie?
Cuba Gooden Jr. for that?
What are they?
That's his first drama, right?
500 bucks.
Let's say 50 grand 50 grand?
$35,000.
Wow.
Yeah, he did another movie called Gladiator, which no, no, no, different one.
He made $50,000, $60,000.
The movie was so bad.
No, he $32,000.
Boys, and Gladiator made $100,000.
But one of the movies paid him $13 million.
Okay.
Men of Honor was only $1.5 million, and he killed it.
What did he get $13 for?
Can you he said what movie he got $13 million for?
Tom, it's not one of his best movies.
But he says that's the movie that paid him $13 million.
He says, it's all gone.
I don't have it.
Snow Dogs.
Snow Dogs paid him $13 million.
Wow.
And have you ever seen Snow Dogs, Rob?
Nope.
Have you seen it?
Rob has, of course.
So, yeah, it's a Disney movie.
Of course, Rob has.
But no, I mean, listen, Ice Cube is not alone.
There's a lot of people that are kind of feeling the way he's feeling.
But this is going to be a part of me that agrees with what a lot of guys are saying.
Who said it's not going to be an October surprise?
It's going to be a November surprise.
Who was it?
Was it Chris that said it?
Cuomo Son, he said it's going to be a November surprise.
I think this is going down to the wire.
We're going to do a live podcast.
It's going to be a, what do you call it, where people are going to be here all day.
We're going to have food, music, you know, cops outside, sheriffs outside, live.
Oh, like at $59.90.
I'm $59.99.
Like what we did in 2020, but not with an audience.
With an audience.
So it's going to be eating, talking about your finger.
It's going to be an insane, insane Super Bowl.
I'm telling you, this is going to be one of those things where this is going to be the Super Bowl of Super Bowls, of Super Bowls, of politics.
I just hope that if we leave and Trump is winning and we all go to sleep and we wake up and all of a sudden Joe Biden skyrockets overnight.
The people just don't go, well, you know, it happens, mail and voting.
I hope that allegedly he's going to skyrocket at night.
And I hope that point people just don't go, oh, well, we got Leslie of the Two Evils.
Rob Kevin.
I don't want to hear that.
Can you play, can you play Seinfeld's video I sent you of his speech?
I just love what he says here.
You know, one of my favorite things, we used to, I used to tell Mario, I'm like, Mario, I think we probably interviewed more 80-year-olds than anybody else has.
There's something special about talking to people that are older that they give you something and they make things so simple that maybe you can't do, you definitely can't do in your 20s and 30s.
You sometimes flirt with it in your 30s and your 40s and 50s.
I'm not 50, so I couldn't tell you.
But look how this guy describes one thing here that Professor Galloway shared.
Go forward.
Reach across a couple generations here to tell you the most important thing I am confident that I know about life.
I'm 70.
I'm done.
You are just starting.
I only want to help you.
The slightly uncomfortable feeling of awkward humor is okay.
It's not something you need to fix.
I totally admire the ambitions of your generation to create a more just and inclusive society.
I think it is also wonderful that you care so much about not hurting other people's feelings in the million and one ways.
We all do that every second of every day.
It's lovely to want to fix those things.
But all capped, but what I need to tell you as a comedian, do not lose your sense of humor.
You can have no idea at this point in your life how much you are going to need it to get through.
Not enough of life makes sense for you to be able to survive it without humor.
And I know all of you here are going to use all of your brains and muscle and soul to improve the world.
And I know you're going to do a bang up job.
And when you're done, as I am now, I bet the world, because of you, will be a much better place.
But it will still not make a whole hell of a lot of sense.
He's right.
It'll be a better, different, but still pretty insane mess.
And it is worth the sacrifice of an occasional discomfort to have some laughs.
Don't lose that.
By the way, you can't stop.
Even if it's at the cost of it's so true, though.
Like, you know, comedy, man, plays such a big role to lower the temperature on everything that we're going through.
Like, for example, Brady's Roast.
Yes.
So good.
Some of these things, like, for me, Dylan, he's a comedy guy.
Tico wants to watch freaking shiny.
You know, we're staying at a hotel the other day, PGA National, what is it called?
National Tour Hotel, whatever it's called.
He says, Dad, this floor reminds me of the shiny.
Oh, God.
I said, why would you say that before we're about to go to sleep?
It's 11 o'clock.
No, but look at the hallway.
It's like the shiny.
Bro, he's right.
He wants to watch the shining at 11 o'clock.
Mark my words, he's going to be a writer, director for horror movies.
Yeah, he loves it, right?
Yeah.
Absolutely loves it.
But Dylan likes comedy.
Dylan watched Couples Retreat.
I don't know if it's appropriate to let your sons watch Couple Retreat.
They're going to watch it at some point.
He's going to watch it.
Dylan just sits there and dies laughing.
I think humor is necessary, though.
Adam, go ahead.
You were going to say something.
Well, right after he gave that speech, in the middle of it, there was like a few dozen Gays for Gaza protesters that stormed off.
The Meets the Media put it, it was sort of trickled off.
And in just Jerry Seinfeld fashion, he's just like, what's the deal with all these protesters?
I mean, come on.
And Jerry Seinfeld, if you know anything about Seinfeld, it's so funny.
He's on the back nine of life right now.
He's 70?
You don't think he's going to live to 150?
I think Seinfeld's going to make it to 100 because just he's got satire in those jeans.
But, you know, we know about Kirby your enthusiasm.
We know about Kramer.
We know about Costanza.
Veep with Elaine Bennis, Julia Louise Dreyfus.
It's all because of Seinfeld, Larry David, Seinfeld.
And he's the least controversial, never curses, vanilla, best comedian ever.
So, I mean, there's you put Chappelle up there, you could put Pryor up there.
There's a lot of names.
They all curse.
He does zero cursing.
His whole element was coffee and cars with comedians.
You know about this Vinny as a comedian, but it's so interesting to see him giving commencement speeches, taking a stance on something.
He was just on Bill Maher talking politics, which he never does.
But that's sort of like, all right, I kind of got to stand for something or I'll fall for anything.
And he's absolutely right.
Gen Z, unfortunately, because of helicopter parenting and every and participantation trophies are the least funniest, most emotional, most offended, embracing cancel culture generation ever.
And it takes someone like Seinfeld to get up there and be like, take a joke, guys.
Relax a little bit.
But unfortunately, a lot of them can't.
Vinny, thoughts?
No, I just, I think, you know, we have five senses, but notice how every time people, nobody ever talks about this.
When you say, hey, you got a sense of humor, that's a six, that's not on the chart.
To have that sense of humor, to not take everything serious, to laugh, because there's so much.
I mean, look at me, dude.
I get angry and I get emotional because I genuinely, truly care.
And I am an angry patriot.
I love this country.
And I'm willing to, I would rather die free than live as a slave.
I'm trying to read anything.
I'm a good reason.
Yeah.
To wake everybody up at the same token, laugh.
And I think we need to laugh.
I mean, I keep the serious moments for the seriousness, but to like relax for a second and enjoy each other's company and take the lighter side of things, I think it's hugely important.
Yeah, I agree.
And by the way, Rob, I mean, we know that Marissa Tomei has got a thing for short, funny, bald guys.
And that was your market right there.
That's why you're a big Seinfeld fan.
I am.
And I think he's one of the.
What a shame for the students that walked out and missed that part of the speech.
Can you imagine that?
Yeah.
I mean, the odds that you get a celebrity like that, somebody that's well-informed, well-read, and he is the most profitable comedian of all time.
Yeah, billionaires.
Because of Seinfeld.
More than Chappelle, more than Chris Rock, more than any of those guys.
That guy has made the most amount of money, launched the most amount of careers in television, and you walk out.
What do you mean he launched the most career?
Well, look at all the spin-offs for the TV shows.
Outside of Michael Richards, everybody else on that show went on a stardom outside of him.
The guy that played George Costanza went into movies and other TV shows.
The girl that played Elaine, also on other TV shows.
Then you look at the spin-off characters that were on that show and got other TV shows.
Well, yeah, Newman Park, everything.
Brian Cranston was a role player that went into breaking band.
Can you pull it up?
His role on Brian Cranston.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
He was the doctor.
What was the dentist?
Anti-dentite?
Oh, everybody went through.
Everybody went through that show.
Look at that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It looks like a freaking soap opera porn star.
Look at that guy.
He does look like a soap opera porn star.
And what was his name on the show?
Tim Watley.
Watley?
Watley.
Yeah.
And Seinfeld is literally a billionaire.
Pull up his net worth.
Yeah.
I guarantee he's a billionaire.
He has to be a billionaire.
$700 billion.
No, I think.
I'm going, Billy.
When they sold, where's he at?
$1 billion.
And he is a guy who just stands true.
He's a comedian.
When he went on Bill Maher, he goes, I just can't be around people that aren't working.
I need to be working.
If you're not working, what are you doing?
This guy could be retired doing nothing, but he still wants to work.
And that's what you talk about.
There's always levels to this thing.
And he could be retired doing nothing.
Is he in the argument of both or no?
Nothing.
He's in the.
He's 100% in the conversation.
He's out on Mount Rushmore.
I don't know if anybody has him as number one.
I mean, but he's in the conversation.
No doubt.
George Carlin, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor.
Chappelle.
Oh, my God.
Dave Chappelle.
Yeah, I mean, I put him in maybe in the top 10, but Steinfeld's the top five.
Again, comedy is subject.
It's one cup of tea, but I'm talking about like the world.
Dave Chappelle is really.
If you ask the boomers, he's up there.
If you ask Gen Z, who doesn't have a sense of humor, economically, he's on Mount Rushmore, but the art of comedy, it's these other names he mentioned.
Rob, can you pull up?
We're talking about Bill Maher.
Pull up the clip about Bill Maher by Daily Caller of him talking about, I think I sent it to you if you'll check your text.
Yeah, I sent it to you.
He was talking about COVID.
I don't know if you see it.
It's in the same link I sent with the other videos that are the Seinfeld humor.
So if you have the Seinfeld humor one, you should have this one as well.
I don't know if you see it.
What's he talking about?
What's he talking about?
Energy now.
I mean, you'll know what he's talking about.
The moment he starts, you're going to be like, okay, I know exactly what he's talking about.
Go ahead and play the clip, Rob.
We didn't know exactly what was happening at the beginning of COVID, and some mistakes were inevitable.
But four years on, I'm tired of hearing, well, we didn't know.
No, we didn't.
But some people guessed better than others.
And the people who got it wrong don't seem to want to acknowledge that now.
Some people said closing schools for so long was pointless and would cause much worse collateral damage to kids, and they were right.
Thank you.
Okay.
Okay.
Don't be afraid.
Four years ago, the Daily Beast ran a story with the headline, Bill Maher pushes Steve Bannon Wuhan lab conspiracy theory, which was typical of the mainstream media at the time.
Of course, it wasn't a conspiracy theory, and it wasn't owned by Steve Bannon.
And now everyone, including the Biden administration, admits there's at least a 50-50 chance that the virus could have begun in the lab in Wuhan that was doing gain of function research on that virus.
Duh.
But I don't see a lot of retractions being printed.
Yeah, when COVID hit, we did a lot of stupid things because America never reacts.
It only overreacts.
Ubers look like those Orthodox Jews who wrap themselves in saran rock in case their plane flies over a grave.
I get it that we didn't know exactly what he's saying.
Tom, what do you think about what he's saying?
Well, with Bill Maher, every now and then you have Sober Saturday, and he goes on a monologue that I agree with, that I think is well crafted and well put together.
The issue I have with Bill Maher is that he flips back and forth from slaughtering people on one side for laughs and for ratings and for clicks and everything he does.
And then on the other side, he puts together these monologues that I think are well crafted, correct, and very, very believable.
And I just, you have to wait and see which Bill Maher you get each morning.
I'm kind of with Roger Stone on this, and this is a fact.
You're saying like he's like, you're seeing him on this show, Tom.
He has a stable of writers.
I don't think, I don't think Bill Maher is right.
I've actually know some of his writers.
He's not writing any of that stuff, and you nailed it.
He is such a bipolar flip-flopper of points.
Like one day you're like, oh my God, he's trying to come around.
And then boom, Trump derangement syndrome.
He has another relapse.
And it's like, you never know what you're going to get.
And I get it.
And by the way, all these guys were all pushing the same thing with the vaccine and with all the COVID stuff.
All of them, every single one of them now are starting to turn.
And we're just all supposed to go, yeah, you know what?
Yeah, you guys got it all wrong.
No, no, no.
Who was telling you guys to say it?
Were you guys getting paid to say it?
And now with all this crap that's happening with everybody, all the physical stuff that's happening, all the lockdowns, all the mental stuff, all the shit with the kids, all these random injuries that are happening, people dropping dead.
Cancer is up.
Now we're supposed to just do what?
Yeah, well, man, we got it wrong.
And now let's hopefully we get it right the next time.
I think the accountability definitely needs to be held.
Everybody that was talking that crap needs to be held accountable.
And he's too much of a flip-flop guy.
Like one day he's here, one day he's there.
You don't know what the hell you're going to get with Bill M.
I don't know if he's a flip-flopper.
I just think it's important to establish where he is on the political spectrum.
Nobody knows.
By the way, no, I'll tell you exactly where he is.
So number one, shout out to his writers because there's a clear distinction between when he's reading from the cue cards, reading from what the writers write, then what he's doing on Club Random with PBD when he's dying.
Club Random is going on.
Obviously, PBD will.
You know, he's reading a teleprompter.
Yeah, I know.
Okay.
The whole time.
Literally what I'm saying.
But he's a classic liberal.
So look at the political spectrum if you want to just give it into five elements.
You have the far left.
You have the center left, classic liberals.
You have moderates who kind of can go either way, depending on the issue.
You have the center right.
You know, most entrepreneurs, capitalists sort of fall into that category.
And then you have the far right extremists on that end.
He's a center left classic liberal.
So he does not identify with the progressive left and he will mock them to the end of time.
But he certainly doesn't identify with people on the far right.
That's why he has someone that he would still be labeled as Trump derangement syndrome.
So it's pretty clear where he is on the political spectrum.
But this is why he still gives praise to Gavin Newsom.
Yeah, he's why he can't basically acknowledge the fact that Gavin has ruined California and leftist politics have ruined a lot of these blue cities.
He still hasn't crossed the middle, but he still will talk trash about the law.
Of course.
And guess who he's voting for for this election?
No matter what.
Not Trump.
Joe Biden.
He's going to vote for Joe.
The country could be literally burning on fire.
I could see him also voting for RFK.
He had RFK on recently.
And he goes, I'm trying to help you get elected.
Yeah, we'll see.
What was your big takeaway from when you sat with Bill Maher?
Bill Maher?
Yeah.
I didn't say a lot.
I was just secondhand.
Once you're like, I can't sleep at night.
What's the word?
The one thing that's the one you can't sleep at night.
Global warming.
Oh, yeah, global warming.
You fixed your suit and you said, it's what keeps me up at night.
And he went, good, me too.
But what?
You got him so good.
Like climate change.
Like, really?
That's the freaking problem.
Do you think he'll ever have you back on based on that last convo, Pat?
We're not going away, man.
Listen, the vision we have is you don't have a choice but have to have a song.
We're going to be.
It's just whether we're going to want to be on or not.
If you only knew the stuff that's going on behind closed doors, one of these days, people are going to wake up and they're going to be like, holy shit.
So that's what they were up to.
But it's part of when a vision is real, you're convinced that the stars are lined up in your favor and God's on your side and you have certain things that's going on.
You just got to trust it.
Good things are happening.
So I will welcome the future conversations we'll have.
And yeah, definitely.
Okay.
So next.
Suddenly, there aren't enough babies.
The whole world is alarmed.
This is a Wall Street Journal story.
Fertility rates have plummeted globally with the United Nations projecting rates below replacement levels far sooner than anticipated.
Actual birth registries report significant undershoots compared to UN estimates, with countries like China and U.S. experiencing substantial declines.
According to Fernandez Villierda, global fertility may have reached between 2.1 and 2.2 last year, potentially marking the first time in human history that fertility falls below replacement levels, first time ever.
The pace of the decline has caught many off guard with fertility rates declining faster and more extensively than previously predicted.
Despite expectations for a gradual reduction, fertility rates have dropped swiftly, challenging assumptions about population growth and economic stability.
According to Kearney, an economist at the University of Maryland, it has snuck up on us.
Rob, can you pull up some of the charts that they have?
Not that, not that.
The other chart that has to do with this story.
You don't have that.
The article that I just read right now because it shows.
I can send you the picture.
Yeah.
Is this the one?
Okay.
I said the one in the chat, by the way.
What are these countries?
Can you zoom in so we can see them?
Okay, so that's the replacement.
Where we were at, where we're at now, United Nations estimates of live birds per woman, how it's declined.
Keep going.
It used to be 4.86 to now 2.1, 2.2, whatever the number was.
This is what, Rob, this is U.S. we're at.
Is it U.S. 1.62?
And South Korea is 0.72.
And the world average, 2.15.
Oh my, and it used to be four or five.
Even in, okay, go a little lower.
What's the next one, Rob?
Is there any other chart?
No, that's the one.
That's the one I'm looking at.
Zoom in a little bit.
So the U.S. has declined.
Mexico dramatically.
Wow.
They were having five kids.
They're down to less than two.
U.S. went from 1.8 up to 2.1, down to 1.6.
India dramatically dropped from 4.9 to 2.
China dropped from 3 to 1.
Damn, look at South Korea.
They dropped from 3, 2.8, 2.9 to 0.7.
Hungary dropped, came up.
Japan dropped, keeps dropping.
And Japan, there's something called the sexless society in Japan.
You ever heard this before?
No.
Type in Japan Sexless Society.
Japanese folks don't have a lot of sex.
And this is not a joke.
It's called a sexless society.
Japan is a sexless society.
Click on it.
What?
Yeah, Japan is a sexless society.
Those girls are there having fun.
By 2060, Japan is expected to have a population of 86.7 million, down from 128 million in 2008.
At least 40% of the 86 million is expected to be 65 and older.
As the population declines, there will be fewer younger people to care for.
older Tokyo is expected to have medical and nursing shortages.
The decline in Japan's population has been in the work since the early 70s.
Why has Japan gone through this?
And it explains, has Japan become a sexless society?
Tom, what are your concerns with these numbers on the birth rates we're having?
So, first of all, the socialists have a spreadsheet problem.
They need money and they need to tax taxpayers.
And taxpayers are people under 60 that are working.
So if you're going to take all this money and you're going to have a socialist society, when people live too long and you don't have enough new taxpayers, guess what?
Your spreadsheet breaks.
The second thing is I think is really sad is this talks about the global destruction of a simple institution that has been pervasive in history and it's called the family.
And with the destruction of the institution of the family has come, you know, fecundity rates haven't changed.
Fecundity rates is people's ability to have kids.
And fertility rates is how often they have kids.
And it's terrible.
I think the destruction of a family, you know, abortion and things that go along with it that are, you know, giving us an older population retired.
Okay, so let's write that down.
Hang on, let's go through it, Tom.
So, so, abortion.
So, you're saying abortion rates.
Okay.
Number two, you're saying what?
Boomer generation growing.
So, they're not having kids.
What else would you say?
What's another reason why fertility rates in the U.S. are dropping?
Is it fair to say we're becoming more of a selfish society where it's about us, not others?
Have we increased in our selfishness?
Absolutely.
You think so?
How do we prove that?
How do we prove the concept that we become more of a selfish society?
Gather up every headline that says that children are an economic burden.
Economic to who?
You can't do what you want.
You can't have more fun.
Kids are in the way.
Look at all those headlines, PBD.
That points to, oh, children are an economic problem.
Children are an issue.
Children take away your ability to live life rather than having the delight of raising new citizens and being so proud of them and what they can be.
We're upside down.
Let's just go find all these headlines that talk about that, and I'll put them in a bucket called, you know, exhibit A, selfishness.
Okay, what else would you say?
Vaccines, man.
Rob, can you look at what I just texted you?
Take a look at it and see if that's true or not.
And then if you have credibility to show it's not, I want to talk about it.
Can we put vaccines on there?
Because they're saying sometimes they have infertility in the vaccines.
Okay.
Why aren't people having kids?
Maybe they can't.
That's allegedly.
We need to research it.
Oh, yeah.
What else could be the reason for fertility rates?
Could it be the lack of values and principles, marriage, family?
That could be one.
Testosterone down.
Testosterone down.
Life time down.
Okay, fine.
So maybe that could be linked to too much phone time.
It could be social.
It's pornography.
Yeah, all that stuff.
Okay, boom.
Next thing is porn becoming too accessible.
I'm making a list guys.
Like the porns, the sex dolls, the toys, the this, the that.
You don't have to be married to have kids.
I'm not in the market.
Are there some high-end sex dolls right now?
I can't confirm or deny CRX.
I mean, I'm from a Honda CR.
So what else?
So porn being too accessible.
You don't have to be married to have kids, but divorce rates that have been going up since the 80s, you know, proves the family is fracturing.
What else?
What else, Tom?
I would say nine faith.
What else?
What else?
I'll give you mine when you're ready, Tom.
Keep going.
Go ahead, Adam.
What else would you add?
Well, I'll give you a couple of things.
Number one, we saw that Wall Street Journal article about the decline in traditional American values.
The leading thing was patriotism.
People aren't even proud to be American anymore.
We've seen that decline.
The declination of family, the declination of people having kids, the declination of religion, the declination of community involvement.
The only thing that actually went up was money.
Speaking of selfish or being selfless, I think it's totally okay to be selfish.
up until a certain point when it's time to be selfless.
I'm going through that transition right now.
Not the type of transition Vinny talks about.
But also a part of it is what it costs to have a kid.
It costs $250,000 per kid from zero to 18.
If you're Gen Z or millennial and you're actually the only generations expected not to be as rich as your parents, you have some math problems to do.
And we all just saw the buy now pay later situation that's going on economically with people and their money.
Then you have student debt that's basically pushing people down to waiting time to buy a house and it's taking longer to do that.
Then you have the feminist problem.
All right, modern feminism.
We saw the war of words that I had with Chelsea Handler about a year ago when she was advocating for being a boss babe and never having kids and then just thinking that you're going to be happy alone at 50 years old, a couple cats and a vibrator.
Good luck, Chelsea.
But modern feminists, working women, and boss babe culture is taking over.
Speaking of culture, there's something called hookup culture and there's also called baby mama culture.
I don't need no man.
Lyndon Baines Johnson married the state.
Don't marry a man.
They'll pay for you.
You're welfare queen now.
Baby girl, good luck with you.
Who said this?
Wait a minute.
Slow down.
Who said this?
Lyndon Baines Johnson from the Great Society, what he talked about with the state.
Adam, were you paraphrasing or is there an article on that somewhere?
I wanted to paraphrase right there, but we all know what's going on there.
Then there's abortions out there.
Stop, stop, stop.
Slow down.
I'm taking notes.
Okay, gotcha.
I'm on fire, Pat.
I love it.
I'm loving this.
So here's what we got.
Don't stop a train when it's all the track.
Modern feminism.
This is actually very helpful.
So modern feminism, because SauceCast, these are the things you talk about.
That's not our culture.
Part of it, yes.
So boss babe culture.
Yeah.
And then the other one, you said marry the government.
What'd you say?
Marry the government, marry the state rather than your man.
You talked about that with Linda Baines Johnson.
Yeah, this is great.
You talked about the lack of men in society.
And that what I mean, you've talked about this.
It used to be 4% of all kids were born to a single parent.
Now it's up to 40%.
And the darker your complexion, no offense, the less likelihood that your man's going to be in the house.
If you're Hispanic, I think it's 60%.
And if you're black, I think it's 70% that the father's not in the home, not in the home, because they're encouraged to basically have fatherless homes that's going on.
We've seen what happens with fatherless homes.
You're more likely to do drugs.
You're more likely to go to jail.
You're most likely to drop out of school.
You're most likely to have all these sorts of issues.
Then you have the phone situation that, you know, you don't need to go play outside.
You don't even want to interact with others.
Just stay on your phone all day.
So it's just a complete shit show what's going on in America right now.
We talk about the great replacement theory that Tom's a big proponent of out there.
But the great replacement theory is that people aren't having kids.
Now, here's the catch, because I'm sure he'll say, Adam, you don't have any kids.
The difference is I want to have a bunch of kids.
I'm just waiting to choose the right wife and mother to the kids.
But I can do that in my 40s.
women.
If you actually choose to play the long game, you're going to have a very sad future because by the time you're 35, what is known as basically you have trouble having a baby.
I forgot the name of the exact term, but after 35 you have Don Lemon said you're not in your prime anymore.
Exactly.
You're not in your prime.
You have an issue having kids.
I forget the name of the term.
But when you're 40, it's basically very tough to have kids, especially if you want to have multiple.
Good luck having one of those.
But for men and women, it's different.
But women, this goes back to the decline in traditional values.
Women have lost sight of what their superpower is, and that is motherhood.
Yes, you can have a business.
Yes, you can make money.
Yes, you can work.
But nobody, despite what certain people in the trans community can say, will tell you that men can have babies.
Women are the ones that are having babies.
And they need to remember that that is their superpower.
And that's a lot of what Andrew Tate talks about when we have those conversations with him.
But people want to blaspheme him for having traditional values when women are the ones that have the babies as much as they're trying to push that men can have babies too.
There's men having baby emojis on your iPhone, but there's no family.
They took the emoji.
They took the emotions.
And what about abortion?
We didn't mention.
Abortions.
People have a baby because they're killing what, 73 million a year globally are abortions.
I think, is that an accurate number?
Rob, how many abortions?
If you had to guesstimate, Rob, how many abortions worldwide do humans do?
How many?
73 million average?
That's one.
And then what about environmental concerns?
People that are like, we're overpopulated.
That's one of the reasons that they don't want to have baby.
What is it worldwide?
Oh, I'm sorry.
100 each year, 121 million abortions.
And then, yeah, this translates to 73 million abortions per year.
73 million human beings.
And that's why the abortion conversation.
By the way, it's geriatric pregnancy when I was thinking.
Let's actually go through this.
Let's actually go through this because this is a very interesting topic here.
Rob, tell me if this sounds, does this sound accurate?
Okay.
I just don't like manipulation and lies being told.
A guy is going around saying something.
I'll respond to me in a minute.
If Robbie can verify that on email.
So let's go through it.
So why is fertility rates below?
Okay.
Abortion.
Rob, is there a chart to show how much abortion has increased over the years?
Oh, my God.
Like year-over-year abortions.
And if you can show year-over-year abortion, okay, in America.
I have a feeling it's going to go up.
Yeah.
It's year-over-abortion rate.
Long-term.
Abortion.
Just here or worldwide?
I don't care.
Whatever the number.
U.S. is preferably what I want to see.
So what does that show you?
Goes down, comes up.
So depending on who the president, it goes up, comes down.
Okay, fair.
So abortion one.
Okay.
And by the way, you know what that impacts the most?
So this was brought up, was started Planned Parenthood by a lady named Singer.
What's her name?
Singer?
Margaret Singer.
Margaret Singer, which, by the way, there's been a lot of things that she said.
The biggest thing Planned Parenthood has impacted is African American babies.
Yep.
Tom, there's a word you use.
What do you call it?
I call abortion in America a genocide on African Americans.
14% of the population to 17% of the population, depending on what year you're talking about.
Yet they've run 38 to 40% of the abortions.
I happen to think that Barack Obama shouldn't have been the first black president.
He probably should have been the second.
And I think that there is an atrocity that's there that I could go deeper on, but that is a statistical fact.
Okay, so let me continue.
And Kanye talks about that.
Not that Kanye is making a lot of sense these days, but that is not something that is accurate.
Boomer generation is the largest generation since I think millennials are the only one that's close to them.
76 million kids born between 46 and 64.
Obviously, they're not having babies anymore.
Selfishness, we're thinking about ourselves.
You got vaccines, you're saying allegedly, maybe somebody can do the research on that.
Values and principles declining.
Church going declining.
Testosterone declining.
Too much of what do you call it?
Porn.
Porn.
We said porn, but it was too much.
This is an internet word.
No, it's social media.
Social media.
Too much social media, which means we're spending too much time on the phone, not interacting with others.
So husband and wives are in bed, not talking to each other.
They're on the phone.
They're definitely not having sex.
For sure.
Or singles are just in their home on the phone doing dating laps and not meeting up in real life.
IRL.
Porn being accessible.
Faith.
Modern feminism.
Okay.
Boss babe.
Married the state, not a husband.
So the other day, I'm sitting down talking to a group of a couple that was sitting in front of me.
And the daughter sits right in front of me.
Tico's to my left.
He's 12.
She's 12.
They're sitting right here.
They're 42.
And the daughter's like, I want another sibling.
And they have two kids.
I said, so why two?
Why not more than two?
He's like, well, you know, we've talked about it, all this other stuff.
I said, look, you guys make good money.
You're good people.
You're raising good right values and principles.
Why don't you go for three or four or five?
And the husband actually was straight up.
He says, look, the worry is we got two healthy kids.
I worry, what if the third one isn't?
By the way, very valid concern.
Okay.
Sure.
Very valid concern on what could happen, especially when you're age and you're going through it, right?
Okay, no problem.
Yesterday, I'm walking the dogs, middle of the night.
One of my neighbors pulls up.
We start talking, high-end lawyer, start of a guy.
And I said, so what's going on?
He says, we're expecting our second.
I said, you got to be kidding me.
He said, no.
I said, seriously, yeah.
He says, I'm surprised myself because we didn't think it was possible.
How?
My wife's 48.
No way.
Yeah.
She looks like she's 38.
Well, okay, great.
So he's 48.
They're having their next baby.
No problem.
Good for them.
There's a fear of having kids.
There's a fear of we're not going to enjoy our life and it's going to be about me, This level of selfishness, if there's a way to rate the level of selfishness in America according to the book Power versus Force, you would see America's become more of a selfish nation.
We all have.
Everybody's thinking more about themselves.
Let me tell you.
Do you know when you have kids?
Everything revolves around them.
This weekend, Friday, I have to drive up to Palm Beach.
I have to put them there.
Jen has to take the kids to another birthday party on Saturday.
Saturday morning, Dylan's got a soccer game.
We have to be there at 7.15.
Then he's got another soccer game at 1 o'clock.
So there's a four-hour break that there's nothing going on.
Then after the soccer game, his sore, his legs hurt.
Then I took these guys to go watch a movie.
We watch a new Planet of the Kingdom of whatever it was.
It was actually a very good movie.
Then we go to dinner as a family.
When we're going to dinner as a family, we eat at this place, Butcher's something.
Is it Butcher's Club?
I think it's at Butcher's Palm Beach.
Type in Butcher's Club Restaurant, Rob.
Just any Google, anything.
Butcher's Club, Palm Beach.
Okay.
Food was awesome.
A little slow because typically when you go to a place with four kids, you would hope they kind of move a little faster.
But we saw a bunch of nice people.
Waiter was very nice.
They were good people.
Food was ridiculous.
Look at that.
That's that's ridiculous.
So it's taking so long that I'm like, Jen, I can't have Brooklyn being here.
She's climbing on my back.
We walk out.
I walk out.
Kids start racing.
Well, then the kids race and they come back.
And finally, we're walking back.
Brooklyn trips on her own foot and hits her head on the edge of a door.
Like imagine a metal door edge.
It splits her back of the head.
I put my hand on the back.
There's literally blood all over me.
Blood all over her dress.
The kids start panicking, all of them.
Of course, it's your sister, baby sister.
Dylan, Tico, Senna, don't know how to react.
We call the ambulance.
We call the cops.
They come out.
We go to the ER.
She gets three stitches in her head.
Okay.
And that's Saturday night.
Then we get up.
Dylan has a soccer game in the morning.
Then we have to pack.
Then we have to come back.
Dylan has a football game in the afternoon.
So we go to the football game.
It's literally 100 degrees.
Then we come back home.
Then he got celebrating Grace's 16th birthday, future Supreme Court justice.
Great.
So we're celebrating that.
And then, you know, and from there, we go and just, and then there is no weekend.
No.
There is no weekend.
There's no chance to do what you want to do with you.
There is no date.
There's none of this stuff.
You're not taking a nap.
And guess what?
Of course, you don't have, but guess what?
10 out of 10 times, I do it all over again.
For sure.
10 out of 10 times.
You know why?
Because you're seeing something grow.
When Tom comes up to me, he says, hey, Pat, just want to give you my dates in advance.
This date, this date, this state.
I said, what is it?
These dates, I'm going to go with Bailey to look at these schools because this and I'm going to go through the interview.
Tom lights up.
Tom's a whole different human being when his girls are around him.
He's not the same guy.
Whenever you see Tom, look at Tom when his girls are around him.
You've been around him.
When Christmas, we're at Aspen.
Tom's not the same man when his kids are around him.
He's a different man when his kids are around him.
You just can't explain it, right?
I think we have sold this selfish society of not having kids.
We have sold faith is a bad thing.
We have sold live for you, not for others.
We have sold not having kids because they own you and they're so we have sold so many different things and people gradually are buying into it.
But I'm telling you, one of the greatest risks you'll ever take in life, if God blesses you, is to have kids.
If you're teaching the right values and principles, you make money.
You're able to make it work.
Have as many kids as possible.
There is risk to it.
I'm not telling you it's going to be all perfect and dandy.
There's a scary part.
It's valid.
You ought to be scared.
You ought to be concerned.
You ought to be doing the due diligence on all the vaccines kids should be taking, not be taking.
You ought to be concerned about what things you're not comfortable with, how to raise your kids, private schools, public.
All of these are valid, valid concerns.
But the opposite side, like I was telling this couple, I'm like, guys, you have to realize life doesn't make sense to me without Brooklyn.
Life doesn't make sense to me without Brooklyn.
I can't explain life without Brooklyn.
If I don't meet Brooklyn, life doesn't make any sense to me.
So this idea, when you're seeing stuff like this, there's the logical argument.
There's the divisive argument of the depopulation community.
And then there's the argument of, look, man, one of the greatest blessings you'll have is if you can experience everybody's experience of what it is to love a mom.
Because if you're born, your mom gave birth to you.
Love of mom is different.
If you can experience love of a father, it's different.
Love of a sibling, different.
Love of a best friend, community, different.
Love of your job, trade, different.
Love of God, different.
Love of your trade, industry, different.
Love of your country, different.
Love of a child, I'm telling you, it's so unique.
It's so tough to describe.
Look at the way Brooklyn sees you as she runs up to you.
Imagine that's yours.
It is so difficult to explain, but when you have it, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
I just don't know if we're selling this.
I don't think the people that have kids and are enjoying it.
I think they're selling too much of the drama and how hard it is and all this stuff, and they're not selling all the other good stuff.
I'm all for it, but I also understand the risk aspect.
I'm not going to sit there and say there's not a risk to it.
I get it, but I'm just telling you it's a risk worth taking.
Yeah, well, I sent you something on your phone because you are making a difference.
And when you read it, I'll tell you the story right there.
But you're absolutely right.
Everything in life comes to risk and reward.
But there's another R in the risk and reward situation.
You're crying?
No, no, no.
I'm making you emotional.
I know, Pat.
He's playing the whole joking.
My eyes are itching.
But there's another R in the risk-reward thing, and that is regret.
And the beautiful thing in life is that you get to choose your regrets.
I've heard Chris Williamson talk about this before, but you can choose your regrets.
I will never forget, PBD, it was Thanksgiving 2020.
We were at your house in Dallas, and you and Jen made that announcement.
Right?
Yeah.
And I won't go into all the details, but long story short, you have Brooklyn here.
But you guys took the risk to have the fourth child.
Yep.
Made, you know, two boys, two girls.
And you talk about you'd have 100 more if you could.
But I'll never forget that Thanksgiving dinner.
The table was crying.
Oh my God, this is crazy.
Bad, another kid.
Oh, my God.
And then a month later, we moved to Florida.
Boom.
It was all good from there.
But I'll circle back to there is a difference between men and women.
And I'll use an analogy.
You know, I always encourage men to take your time because women get their shine on the front end.
Where men, it takes a lot more time to basically become a man of status.
And sometimes it's going to take you into your 30s or 40s to become that man.
And I encourage men when it comes to dating, test drive as many cars as possible just to see what the final car that you want to buy.
If women test drive too many cars, they're known as high-mileage vehicles and they have too many tread on their tires and nobody wants a used car.
But with a man, if they actually get a lot of practice like Vinny's doing, he's no longer just a used vehicle.
He becomes a classic muscle car.
So it is different.
And when I talked about geriatric pregnancy after that, after 35 and 40, women can't have kids.
Men, we take some time, like a good pasta sauce, takes some time to basically become our own.
In our 40s, I mean, there's a reason why men are called silver foxes, but nobody's like, oh, look at that hot chick with gray hair.
It's not a thing.
George Clooney, Leonardo DiCaprio, it's a little bit different.
Tom Ellsworth, all major studs that are out there that basically take time.
Tom, you didn't get married and have kids until your 40s, correct?
That's right.
Okay.
And how old was Kim when you had your first kid?
I'm not allowed to say that publicly.
Okay.
But way younger than you because you outkicked your car.
It's good for you.
Yep.
All I'm saying is there's a difference between age between men and women, and women at least need to acknowledge that you could be equal, but different.
Men and women are different.
So we should have like a national everybody get out there, find somebody you like and hook up day just to save humanity.
I mean, better rock the vote, rock the cradle.
So hate that I say this, but by your definition of over 35, we had two geriatric geriatric pregnancies.
Let's go, Kim.
36 and 41.
So there's some important things in life.
This is one of them.
If you're watching this and you stepped away from the changed this guy's life right here, I don't know if you saw that.
We had a conversation.
Let me see this.
And because Pat has been going out there telling people, have more kids, have more kids.
If you have money, have more kids.
I won't say his name because I don't want to put it out there, but we were sitting at your house at lunch, two guys with the same name, and this guy ended up having a kid.
And what's the last thing he said?
Let me see this.
Yeah.
Let Pat know he played a role in this.
Because you were like, have more kids.
I love it.
And he sent me this message.
This is who I think it is with the skate.
Yes.
Oh, wow.
That's crazy.
His friend.
His friend.
I know real estate guy.
But that's something that you did.
Congratulations to them.
Well, listen, I mean, God does it, and then you do the work.
Others, if they can encourage you to want to risk having kids and being gifted by God, it'll be the greatest.
Think about the greatest gift you ever got.
Nothing even comes closer.
This is a very unique situation here.
Okay.
All right.
So, Vinny, last thing with you.
You have something you want to share with us.
Tell us what's going on with what you found out with Moderna and AstraZeneca.
So people can do their own research.
Okay, so for people that want to do their own research, well, Moderna, first and foremost, they stopped their new mRNA vaccine trials after a high rate of side effects puzzling skin.
That's just Moderna.
That's their new MRN1 HIVA vaccine.
So it's just, you know, they're having problems over there.
Second, AstraZeneca is withdrawing its COVID-19 vaccine worldwide months after the pharma giant admitted the drug could cause very rare but life-threatening injuries.
All right, the British Swedish drug maker also known withdrew its EU marketing authorization for the vaccine branded Vaxiviria since 2021.
The authorization is the approval to market a drug EU's member states.
The withdrawal was due to, they said, a surplus of available updated vaccines against new variants of the novel coronavirus.
The application to withdraw the vaccine from the EU was made on March 5th and came into effect a couple days ago on May 7th, as multiple variant COVID-19 vaccines have since been developed.
There's a surplus.
They're basically saying everybody's making vaccines.
There's so many of them.
We're going to step, uh, we're going to step back.
But, but in the same voice, they said, exactly, Tommy.
In the same breath, they said they admitted that the vaccine initially called Covi Shield could cause very rare side effects like blood clots and low blood platelets counts.
The Telegraph reported this.
So it's just, you know, in this room with all the stuff that they're, you know, with all the vaccine stuff.
And then I sent him this.
There's a bird flu.
And not to be the fear-mongering guy.
I just, I read between the lines.
I watch a lot of content and I want to see, you know, what, because, you know, Fauci and not Fauci, I'm sorry, Bill Gates, and, you know, who's the, who's the Klaus Schwab?
They're always warning.
I keep hearing pandemic number two, pandemic number two.
These are just little things you guys have to be aware of.
I sent Rob the video.
This guy's name is Dr. Jeremy Farrar, chief scientist at the WHO, which, by the way, the WHO is having their pandemic treaty meeting.
It's coming up for two weeks at the end of this month, Tom.
This is the world, the World Health Forces.
Yeah, not the band, VW, warning us about bird flu H5N1.
The virus can jump from cows to humans and spread from human to human, and the mortality rate is extraordinarily high.
Please, guys, don't take this as a, oh, they're just trying to scare us.
No, they're putting the information out there, just like when Christopher Ray warns of something bad happening.
Take their word.
There's 70 potential cases reported in Colorado, and this guy hints at another vaccine.
And the virus affecting cows, think about it.
We'll hit two targets, Tom.
This is my opinion.
It'll reduce meat consumption, which that's all they're saying.
And then pushing another job.
I have the video of Dr. Jeremy Farrar, chief scientist at the WHO.
No, not this one, Rob.
The one that I sent you.
It's the chief.
Nope, not that.
That guy right there.
So it reduces beef consumption because all the cows get sick?
But think about it.
That's because we're not stopping the meat eating.
You know, they keep saying eat bugs and shit.
None of us are going to do it.
Nobody's going to get between me and my frickin.
You have some meat, some bugs in Oaxaca, Mexico.
How did it taste?
It was actually very crunchy.
And it was Mia Mario.
Mario, this was back in the days when Mario was still testing all the tequilas around the world.
Gotcha.
So he tried mezcal.
And he put bugs in there.
No, we ate the bugs.
So we were, you know, but this was a Mexican traditional bug.
Gotcha.
But going back to your point, too, this eating bug stuff lowers your testosterone.
You're not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not doing it.
But yeah, Tom, so think about this.
They were telling us, don't eat meat.
Bill Gates and all these guys, they're buying up all this farmland on purpose.
What's this clip?
And so this is them.
They're saying this is the WHO, Jeremy Farrar, talking, warning us about the bird flu.
And just pay close attention to what he's saying.
Virus now evolves and develops the ability to infect humans and then critically the ability to go from human to human transmission.
And we know that in the rare cases, I think off the top of my head, four or five hundred cases so far of humans, the mortality rate is extraordinarily high.
So to me, this is a major concern.
The current outbreak, for want of a better word, in America amongst cows is really concerning as well.
And also talks to this issue of transmission.
We have to understand in those cow settings, sheds, how H5N1 is transmitting because it may be learning, not learning, evolving into transmitting in different ways.
This is a huge concern.
I think we have to watch, more than watch.
We have to make sure that if H5M1 did come across to humans with human human transmission, that we were in a position to immediately respond with access equitably to vaccines, therapeutics, and diets.
Ready for this?
So giving you a heads up.
Just, by the way, for the WHO, he's the chief scientist, is warning us.
And I waited for the end.
And we just have everything and a vaccine ready to go.
As if, and this is the one thing that really, really bothers me.
When it comes to these pharmaceutical companies that are making this, Tom, I know that you know this.
There needs to be some liability, okay, besides the fact, because I know Pat, you said that they shouldn't be able to give money to any donate any money to any campaigns or anything.
You mean accountability?
Accountability, because the majority of these companies have immunity.
And there's also the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986.
That's a federal law that reduces the potential financial liability of vaccine manufacturers due to vaccine injury claims.
So if you can make this thing, you know, the problem comes up, you make this thing, you know what I mean?
Like, and there's no fault for any of the side effects.
I think that there should be something put in place.
There has to be some liability, some accountability for these people, don't you think?
Well, there's a couple things there that you say, and I agree with you.
You know, we're hearing things that these people are saying, and we're not drawing conclusions or writing research paper here.
We're saying, is this guy saying that the cows could get sick and we may all need another vaccine?
That's what he's saying.
Is he saying the mortality rate is high and they're worried about it?
Oh, my gosh.
It almost kind of sounds like the first little rumor and then we learned Wuhan?
What's Wuhan?
What's a city in China?
You remember that?
You started learning all these little things?
Yeah.
It's really, really kind of raises your suspicions a little bit when you hear things like that.
And Rob, you put up the one with Bill Gates.
It's not as if these people aren't telling us.
They're warning you.
They're giving you a heads up.
Could you go to the Bill Gates one, Robbie?
This is Bill Gates.
Let's look who he says.
I had predicted there was a risk of a pandemic, and sadly, you know, that came true.
He's a psychic.
We're past that.
Now we need to get people working together in partnership and taking innovation and applying it to help the very poorest in the world.
Yeah, but Rob, you can stop.
By the way, he looks rough.
When was this?
When is this?
I did this recently because he looks rough.
But he's saying, like, he predicted it.
He warned us.
He told us when the WHO is telling you, guys, there's a bird flu.
It's in cows.
It could jump from human.
And then we can spread it.
I think people should start paying attention.
And then, Rob, I sent you the, did you see the camel one?
It's, I mean, this is totally off subject, but it's happening everywhere too.
There's another one.
Look at the camel outbreak.
This is a camel.
Outbreak fears is camel flu with 35% fatality rate kills one and affects two more.
Rob, you scroll down.
Look at that camel.
Look how pissed off his face is.
Go down?
Look at that guy.
He knows he's sick.
He knows.
He does not want to get a shot.
That's what he is.
So the pathogen known as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, M-E-R-S, typically comes from camels, which is why it's often dubbed camel flu.
The previous outbreaks were traced back to people working close with contacts with the animals or their raw milk.
There's a handful of cases right now from human to human.
So I'm just saying it's like it's slowly happening and it's just, you know, this is election year, so a lot of craziness is going to be.
I mean, the fact that, again, we're talking about it and the audience gets to make a decision for themselves.
Yeah, do your research.
Is the key.
That's what it is.
But what I'm interested in, this is why we're hosting the debate and the discussion with Dave Smith and Chris Cuomo.
And by the way, while I'm posting this, somebody just texts me saying Tim Poole just said, so if you can pull this up, Rob, which is kind of, I don't know what Tim is going through.
And if he is, he's trying to find a way to create beef for himself.
I don't know what it is.
We don't process a lot of how Tim is processing this.
A guy comments and said, take notes, Tim Cass.
Win your fans back by having and hosting the important debates.
He responds, actually, I was asked to do the debate and turned them down.
First of all, we never asked you to do this debate last week.
We spoke to you on March 25th, which was when you called us out for having Chris Como being one of our talent that's going to be doing podcasts and different shows with us.
You were not happy.
You said it was, what was his words?
He says something effing dumbest effing decision ever.
He said something like that, if I recall.
He did.
Which is a nice word.
No, no, but by the way, totally fine.
I think he's actually a very talented guy and he does good work.
He does very good work.
He's actually very smart guy.
We've had him on before.
But Tim, I just put this on Twitter and I said the following.
I said, hey, question mark, if you want to pull up my tweet, Rob, because, and I got Rob right here who spoke to Vanessa, your person, go to my last tweet.
I said, actually turned it down.
Question mark.
Our team and your team spoke on March 25th.
Your book has said you wanted us to fly you down in a private jet.
No one's ever asked that, which was kind of a strange request, especially after I attended your paid event in Miami.
You asked me to do, and I asked you for nothing.
It was a favor.
So it's kind of weird to say, I come to your event with Matt Gates and others, and it was free and you paid, you made money that night.
And we asked you to come and have a conversation after you say it's the worst effing decision and you say this.
So let me know if you want me to share the email exchange.
And Rob, I think you communicated.
So you want to kind of give any commentary on this?
Well, we did.
We tried.
It's difficult to figure out the first class jet issue.
We weren't looking, that's not in the budget for the event that we had.
So what we offered was, you know, what we normally offer, round trip accommodations, a business or first-class flight, a hotel.
When they said that they needed the private jet, we offered to do the podcast on a different day and time so that he could fly down on a commercial plane, but still keep his recording schedule and come work with us and do the podcast.
And they continued to insist after multiple times that they just wanted the private jet.
So that was the negotiating.
Well, he does live in a city that's not located near a big airport.
I mean, literally, I think he's somewhere out in West Virginia.
Tim, I'll say a bunch of nice things and maybe something you should look into.
Smart, opinionated, gets views, very capable, but book recommendation.
Maybe you read how to win friends and influence people because there's better ways to navigate relationships.
But this is not how to win friends and influence people.
This is called lying.
There's a difference.
Because how to win friends and influence people, you could take a different approach.
Here, he says what?
Scroll down.
Go scroll down, Rob.
I offered it.
He said I turned it down.
You never did.
You asked for a private jet.
So don't lie, Tim.
Just say that you wanted us to pay for a private jet.
And of course, we're not going to pay for a private jet.
If you wanted to have the conversation, you'll have the conversation.
Anyways, folks, this is getting spicy.
A lot of people want to see this conversation with Dave Smith and Chris Cuomo.
If you are wanting to see this live, May 31st, 6 to 9 p.m., go to 5990live.com.
Again, go to 5990live.com, get a ticket, come down to the show, and then afterwards, we'll have a cigar or two with you, with Dave and Chris at our cigar lounge.
And it's great because it's on Friday night.
It's going to be great for people to hang out.
I don't know how long we'll leave the cigar lounge open, but it'll be a great conversation.
The crew will be there.
You'll see Tom, Vinny, and Adam.
Everybody else will be there as well.
Rob, we don't have a podcast all week this week, right?
Because I'm out of town.
But we will get back at it again next week.
Just because I'm out of town doesn't mean he's not doing a podcast later on today.
And it doesn't mean unusual is not doing a podcast today this week.
And doesn't mean that Tom's not doing other things this week.
So make sure you go check him out.
And Rob, put up the Manect if you could at the end.
Last but not least, remember, Candace is officially on Manect.
Welcome her.
Send her a Manect and say, Candace, it's great to have you on.
