Trans Day of Visibility, Suge Knight Warns Diddy & Havana Syndrome | PBD Podcast | Ep. 389
Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth, and Vincent Oshana are joined by Chris Cuomo as they discuss the Biden administration celebrating "International Transgender Visibility Day," Suge Knight warning Diddy that his life is in danger, and "60 Minutes" report that claims Havana Syndrome is real
0:00 - Show intro, the Home Team recaps April Fools day.
7:46 - White House doubles down on Biden’s Trans Day of Visibility message.
29:45 - Suge Knight claims Diddy’s ‘Life’s in Danger,’ urges Diddy to turn himself in.
44:16 - Israel accused of deadly strike on Iranian consulate in Syria.
56:18 - Ending 6% commissions could turn out to be a ‘Venus Flytrap situation’ for home buyers, economist says
1:07:40 - California homeowners face an insurance crisis. What will it mean for home prices in the state?
1:30:33 - RFK Jr. appears on CNN, says President Biden is more dangerous to democracy than Donald Trump.
2:01:54 - YouTube could be worth $400 billion — that’s more than Disney and Comcast combined.
2:13:15 - Florida car chase in 2020 may be linked to Havana Syndrome.
2:21:48 - New $20 minimum wage for fast food workers in California is set to start Monday.
2:30:13 - Donald Trump Jr. says he’s lobbying his father to pick a ‘fighter’ like Tucker Carlson or Vivek Ramaswamy to be his running mate
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Episode 389.
Good morning, everybody.
Hope you had a fantastic April Fools.
It was a special day yesterday.
To some of us, it's a national holiday.
To others, for those of you that God created you gullible, I'm thankful for you like you wouldn't even believe.
I want to thank Babylon B for probably one of the best posts yesterday on April Fools.
They posted this yesterday saying CNN publishes real news story for April Fool's Day.
I think that's a top three.
I think if you go to Elon Musk's, Musk did another one that was very impressive.
He says, I'm excited to join this their chief officer.
Can't wait to work with Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy to make their content more woke, even delinguini.
And then we had one as well that for whatever reason, we still have fans that are zooming a little bit so I can read it, Rob.
After a stellar interview with Elon Musk, we are proud to announce that Don Lemon has joined Valutamin.
We have met all his modest demands.
We know many of you were hoping for this announcement.
It's official future looks pricey.
We see his picture, Rob.
Yeah, it was.
Look how happy he is.
Look how happy he is.
This was so young and full of hope.
By the way, even Adam thought it was real.
Well, I lemon privilege to actually take him out to make sure that he was.
Oh, you were entertaining him.
I mean, Rob, he's here.
He's in the lobby.
I was hanging out with Don all last night.
He was in the lobby.
Showing him the rope, showing him what's going on.
Is that what you were showing?
Is that what you were showing?
I said, come to Miami.
We're going to hang out.
Cuomo's going to be here.
Let's have a good time.
That beard is hilarious.
You look like Eminem.
That's right.
I shaved.
I got tan.
Could it be Messi's cousin right there?
It could be.
Things got a little messy last night.
That was last night?
No, Cuomo.
That was a deal.
That was a long interview.
White House correspondence dinner.
Really?
But anyway, so listen, with April Fool's, it's always great because I don't know if you guys play.
One time I played the biggest joke on April Fool's for my insurance agents.
I made a video.
We send it out to 30,000 insurance agents saying, listen, department insurance came down.
Moving forward, there's this new license that we need to get.
That's $35,000 by the state to store everybody's urine.
Every time you write a policy, the Department of Insurance, now I want you to send us a urine sample of you.
Every time you write a policy, Vargas calls home offices.
I don't beat them.
I sell a lot.
Rodolfo and Cesi are selling some policies.
Anyway, okay, so there you go.
We're having some fun with you.
And I love the fact that some of you fell for it.
You guys are amazing people.
Did Cuomo?
Did you fall for this year old boy?
He's your homeboy.
I did.
I saw it.
I thought this was going to be a great opportunity to clear some things up.
Then he was going to be the podcast.
I was going to be the mediator from the sit down and be like, what do you show you?
I thought MIA is what he's been in my life for about a year.
I didn't know many was in Miami now.
By the way, maybe that could be a, Dan, if you're listening, maybe we can do something podcast.
Who knows?
Me, you, Chris, we can have a conversation, have some fun.
Hopefully you have some levelty left in you after CNN that you can have some fun and laugh as well because we definitely can do that comfortably.
All right, stories for the day.
Let me go through a couple stories.
RFK yesterday, on an interview with CNN, said a few words that they were a little worried about why is he going in this direction?
What are you talking about?
Biden and Trump and all.
You just have to see this clip.
We'll show it to you.
White House doubles down on Biden's Trans Day of Visibility message.
And then there was a clip, Tom.
Did you give that clip to Rob?
We have it.
Yeah, there's another clip that came out that says, I didn't know anything about it.
So was this him doing it?
Did he, as a Catholic man, support this?
Or was it the interns?
Was it other people?
Would something like this get approved without his blessing?
Who knows?
We'll talk about it.
And then the story about fire department of New York fighters, firefighters made to remove stars and stripes honoring 9-11 heroes.
This is comical and offensive, to say the least, but we'll get into that as well.
Suge Knight claims Diddy's life is in danger, urges Diddy to turn himself in.
Florida car chase in 2020 may be linked to Havana syndrome.
Okay, and Vinny's got some stuff to say about that.
California homeowners face an insurance crisis.
What will it mean for home prices in the state?
Ending 6% commission for real estate could turn out to be a Venus flytrap situation for home buyers.
Economists say for those of you that don't know what a Venus flytrap is, I learned yesterday as well.
It's going to be okay.
We'll go through it together to see the history of this Venus flytrap.
Okay, BlackRock CEO Larry Fink says 65 retirement age is too low.
Here's what experts say.
Israel accused of deadly strike on Iranian consulate in Syria.
And then Lizzo announces she's quitting.
I know Vinny was a little bit disappointed by that, and she said she didn't sign up for this shit, but we'll comment on it.
This California lawmaker wants to help you.
Ready?
Ignore your boss when they call you after hours.
So when they call, and by the way, we may even give this guy's phone number and email out for you guys to email the hell out of him and just kind of see what we can do with him.
YouTube could be worth $400 billion.
That's more than Disney and Comcast combined.
We should be paying more attention.
New $20 minimum wage for fast food workers in California set to start Monday, yesterday.
How Gen Z is becoming the two-bell generation.
McKinsey is offering some staffers nine months of pay and career coaching services to leave the firm.
Go, go somewhere else.
They want them to leave.
And an FBI shows up to Oklahoma woman's house, questions her about social media posts.
So you may want to stick around for that story as well.
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Tom is about to cross 2,000 Manects.
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All right, let's get right into it.
I think we start off with the main story of Sunday of what happened.
And that is White House doubling down on Biden's Trans Day of Visibility message, which shocked nearly, I think, a little over half of 50% of the nation here because of obviously Catholics, Christians.
The White House has doubled down on honoring Transgender Day of Visibility on Easter after sparking a firestorm of criticism from conservative lawmakers.
On Sunday, White House spokesman Andrew Bates penned a statement. addressing the backlash as a Christian who celebrates Easter with family.
President Biden stands for bringing people together and upholding the dignity and freedoms of every American, Bates said.
Sadly, it's unsurprising politicians are seeking to divide and weaken our country with cruel, hateful, and dishonest rhetoric.
President Biden will never abuse his faith for political purposes or for profit.
March 31st will be designated to honor the transgender movement internationally since 2009.
However, this year coincides with the celebration of Easter.
Rob, if you can pull up the Instagram for the White House, which one is this, by the way, what you have here, Rob?
That was Biden being asked about it yesterday.
Oh, can you pull this up?
And Biden was asked about it yesterday, and this was his response.
Go forward.
Mr. President, what does Easter mean to you, sir?
Sir, what does Easter mean to you?
Act for forgiveness and people getting together with little love and no phones.
Be straight with you.
And Mr. Speaker Johnson the other day said you visited the English.
Sir, Speaker Johnson said you betrayed the tenor of Easter by proclaiming Sunday, Easter Sunday as Transgender Day.
He called it outrageous and abhorrent.
What do you say to Speaker Johnson?
He's thoroughly uninformed.
Uninformed, how?
I didn't.
I didn't do that.
I think he has a valutainment hat on, by the way.
Does he?
If he does, listen.
I mean, that dude, that would have to be.
I don't know.
I like his style.
I like his style.
I think on the bottom, I see it says future looks bright.
That's right.
Maybe not his.
Yeah.
I don't know about his future looking bright.
Man, he's got a couple more years left.
But look, I mean, half the country wants this guy as a president, you know, that will most likely be voting for this guy, 47% of it, whatever the percentage is.
So here's a post.
Today we send a message to all transgender Americans.
You are loved.
You are heard.
And you are understood.
You belong.
President Biden quote, right?
And then if you go to their Instagram account, Rob, the post right before this, three hours before that was happy Easter.
So let's read that one.
It's just Happy Easter, okay?
Nothing more, nothing less, just happy Easter.
But when it comes down to transgender, go to it.
Let me read it one more time.
Okay.
Today we send a message to all transgender Americans.
You are loved.
You are heard.
You are understood.
You belong, President Biden.
He didn't say today, the day of resurrection, to all the Christians and Catholics of our country.
I want to take this moment to nothing like that.
What are your thoughts on this, Chris?
So we know he's a devout Catholic, right?
That's what we're told.
Right.
The headline is, the reaction is the reality.
You had an extraordinary number of people who felt that this was done the wrong way.
Not to paint those people who are upset as being anti-trans.
Tolerance is fine, of course, especially on Easter.
It's part of the idea of renewal and rebirth.
But clearly, he stepped on people's expectations of what the Holy Day was about.
And they were upset.
And as a leader, you have to meet people where you find them.
And if they're upset at the way you treated this, you have to think about it.
And they didn't.
Instead, they said, no, you're wrong to feel that way.
We didn't do that.
I had James Carville on my show say, those people are stupid.
If that's what they think he was doing, they're stupid, which I felt was a couple more steps down the deplorables road.
And I said, well, they're stupid because they feel that this is supposed to be about them and you made it about a different group.
And he said, yeah, that's stupid.
And I think it's a very big mistake for the president to alienate people for no good reason.
And by the way, he didn't help the trans community.
You don't help a minority community by setting them up as opposition to a majority community.
And it was done in bad taste.
It was done the wrong way.
And they failed the major lesson of leadership, which is when you make a mistake, correct it.
Own it and correct it.
That's all he had to do here.
And it would have been very into keeping with the season, by the way, of rebirth and renewal and getting it right.
And he didn't.
Is this a clip?
Yeah.
Rob, play this clip.
The highest or lowest, depending on your point of view level.
Chris?
James, what do you think about this?
Well, I honestly think it's profoundly stupid.
As if Biden even knew it was Transgender Awareness Day.
By the way, Biden goes to Mass and Communion every week, as you well know.
You couldn't find Trump and himself of a church anywhere.
I really think this is utterly absurd.
I don't think anybody in the White House was aware of this.
As you point out, it's a constant day.
It's a March 31st.
I don't know anywhere in Trump's body.
You can pause it right there.
So I don't think anybody in the White House was aware of this, and this is stupid.
Perfect.
Okay, so let's talk about this.
We're at UFC, you and I, and we're in the back with Dana White.
Dana White introduces us to the, what do you call it, to the CEO of Anheuser-Busch.
Tom, I'm looking at you, right?
To the CEO of Anheuser-Busch.
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
Las Vegas.
And last week, I said, and this was at the thick of things.
Like the announcement hasn't been made that UFC is partnering with them and dropping their old beer company.
And then I asked the guy a question.
I said, let me ask you, when a marketing campaign like this happens with somebody from your VP of marketing sending a package of Bud Light with Dylan Mulvaney on it to Dylan Mulvaney, does that go through you?
Does your senior mo approve it?
Would it go through?
Who does it go through?
And then it's like, well, you know, it's kind of like this.
And he didn't really fully answer.
The vibe I got is that it didn't go through him, okay?
That the decision was made and maybe the buck stopped at the CMO and then they sent him that.
And obviously, the company lost God knows how much money.
And then the other day we're with Billy, was it Billy Bush?
Yeah, we ran into Billy Bush, who had been on the podcast, talked about his book.
There he talked about the family.
We talked to Billy Bush, and Billy Bush, I said, so Billy, we talked to the CEO of Anheuser-Busch, and here's what he said.
He said, it's funny because that would have never happened back in the days.
Every major marketing campaign would have to go through us.
So here's a question for everybody here.
And Rob, can we run a poll on this?
The poll is the following.
Do you think President Biden knew this was happening?
Meaning, was this some administration thing managing the Instagram account that they posted this without asking the president?
Or do you think the president knew this was going to be posted and said on Easter, a couple hours afterwards?
And that Easter message is happy Easter, two words.
And transgender is 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 20 words versus two words.
Me personally, I don't think he has, this is going all the way back.
He is making zero decisions.
I know yesterday we talked about him all, but it was kind of like, of course he does.
I personally don't think he makes any decisions.
What's really happening, let's be honest, mission accomplished from the White House, okay?
These are their goals.
They want to further divide Americans because think about it.
Everybody the whole day, whoever I ran into was like, it wasn't, hey, happy Easter.
How are you doing, Vinny?
God bless you.
It was, can you believe what they mission accomplished?
They got everybody pissed off.
They're taking, think about it, the focus away from the day was Jesus Christ came out of the tomb.
He was resurrected.
That's what the day was about.
Okay.
And this goes to show you more.
They never mentioned Jesus.
They never mentioned the resurrection, and it's just their way of taking God.
Remember when I first got it?
The question is, is it by, do you think it's Biden or is it White House?
Remember the they that he talks about?
It's them.
It's not him.
He's not a decent.
What do you think?
Well, first of all, I see three angles on this.
The first angle I see is a week ago, the first lady was speaking into the microphone about PETA, and it was going to be a potato roll, not an Easter egg roll on the lawn.
So it seemed like the Bidens were pretty clued in that there were different Easter traditions being invoked here.
So it seemed like the president and the people knew, number one.
Number two, I think he absolutely knew it because this is a flag carrier moment for what they've been doing for LGBTQ XYZRO51.
All of that, what they've been doing.
It's a flag carrier moment.
But what was very interesting to me is when he's walking there on the walk along where the reporters were there on the clip, that wasn't 20 reporters yelling at the president.
Maybe there were four questions there.
Everybody sort of was a little, the din went down, and it was a very clear voice.
The president clearly turned to the voice and was answering the question and said, no, I didn't do that.
So either he's confused or he's denying it.
So on that, that kind of shocked me because it led me to believe maybe Biden didn't know about it, but how did they not know about it?
Because they've been talking about it for years.
I think he knew about it.
Here's what I think.
Before we started the show, we're dealing with a transmission issue.
You asked like 11 questions.
You have nothing to do with the transmission of this broadcast, but it's your company.
This is the president of the United States.
The idea that something like this is going to happen and it's okay that he was clueless is unacceptable.
Even if this was done without him, which I doubt, okay?
Vinny and I talk about this.
I believe the president is plugged in.
I talk to people around him.
They say they interface with him all the time.
They have no reason to lie to me.
But even if you assume he didn't know, that's worse.
This was a big deal.
It matters.
And now he's in a hole about something that matters to Americans.
And at some point, what is a leader?
What is a leader?
How many times are you going to give a guy who's supposed to be in control a pass because he's not into it, but then you don't want to make his competence an issue?
This was an easy situation to rectify.
It should have never happened this way.
And all they did was hurt.
They hurt the transgender community.
They hurt the faith-based community, and they hurt impressions of his leadership.
Thank you.
So by the way, what a great take.
Rob, I want to text you.
Can you go to Twitter for me, please?
Thank you, Vinny.
So this guy, this guy is one thing, okay?
President Biden.
We can debate the 50-50.
And if you can, Rob, just go to, yeah, there you go.
If you can just go to my profile and right there, it just popped up.
Boom.
Go to the third tweet.
Keep going down.
Go one more right there.
Go a little low, Rob, not that one.
I think it's the Alex Soros one.
So zoom in on Alex Soros' tweet and just focus on his.
Yeah.
So Trans Day of Visibility honors the bravery and resilience of trans communities.
Let's stand in solidarity and work to create a world where everyone feels safe and accepted, continuing our fight for the rights of all individuals.
Now, this guy is a billionaire now.
He's the son of George Soros.
He's going to be somebody going to be dealing with for probably 60 years because he's in his late 30s.
And nowadays with medicine, he's going to live 50, 60 years.
Can you actually go on the tweet, Rob, that he posted and go to the comment section, go below, and let's see what people are saying.
Let's see how many people agree with him.
Look, Soros, here's one.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Get right with Jesus, Alex.
Okay, keep going.
Okay, keep going.
That's an ad.
So Christ is king.
The world would be a much better place if your entire clan were to be apprehended and prosecuted.
Okay, keep going.
Nice.
This message brought to you by an architect of a regime devoted to each other.
Look for one positive message.
You're not.
That's all I'm looking for.
You're not.
George Soros' son congratulates Muslims on their holiday, but for a Christian holiday, he congratulates transgenders.
Look at that.
310, 24, Ramadan Kareem to all those who will begin observing tonight.
God didn't make trans people celebrate tomorrow on April Fool's Day.
It's more appropriate.
The entire Soros family responds to.
So by the way, by the way, you see these posts.
There is not one person that's agreeing with them.
So now go back to my post on what I said to him, Rob.
Can you go back to the top and just zoom in?
And this is what I said.
I said, Alex, you are not dumb.
Just look through the comments.
Not one sane person supports your tweet.
So you're either trying to piss off conservatives on Easter, trying to incite the next George Floyd-type incident violence, or something darker, which is it, right?
Now, this guy knows exactly what he's doing.
What I want to ask is, what do you think they're doing?
So, what is because on one end, you're like, I can't believe they said this.
I can't listen.
Tom's like, they're trying to get Trump to be emotional because the more emotional he is, the less he talks about policies.
It's kind of like what you said.
Exactly what I said.
Very good point.
But what else do you think Alex is doing this for?
What is he doing it for?
You really think he woke up saying, Let me congratulate the 0.01% of America, yet let me leave the 55% of America alone and congratulate them.
Strategically, what do you think is his outcome of that post?
Strategically?
I think it's about ignoring more than it is about empowering.
So I think that on the left end of the political spectrum, there is an exaggeration of importance of minority-based issues.
And sometimes that's good because minorities need attention because they're being overshadowed.
But this is a case where trans awareness tolerance becomes more important than the majority aspect of the occasion.
So on the left, they're more interested in motivating the trans movement than they are giving a nod to Christians.
Not that they're anti-Christian, but that their mind is on the trans issue.
That's part of their agenda.
Christianity is not part of their agenda.
Motivating Christians, speaking to Christians, speaking to devoutly religious people is not part of their agenda.
It's not their base.
So their head is on their base.
This is politics, Pat, more than anything else.
I don't know, Alex.
I wouldn't even have known he was Soros' kid.
I think the Soros stuff is a little overblown, but it doesn't matter.
Their agenda is to play to the base.
People who are sympathetic to the trans cause, which I have no problem with, as a function of tolerance, but they're not seeing it through your lens.
Your lens is this is a Christian holiday.
Why would you start anywhere else?
Because you don't care about the Christian holiday.
That's why you just get happy Easter.
And by the way, Easter is the weakest word for the occasion.
It's a pagan word that has to do with Estris, the goddess of spring, a pagan goddess.
Rebirth, renewal, resurrection.
He is risen.
That's what Easter is for anybody who cares.
Okay, Easter is just a word.
They don't focus on that.
They care about the other agenda.
And that's what motivates a lot of their decision-making processes.
Is the agenda a noble agenda or is the agenda a strategic agenda?
Depends who it is.
Because on the political side, it's very strategic.
Because look, think about it.
They're setting these people up, trans and their allies, to be hated.
You're putting them in opposition to the biggest religious holiday for Christians.
How are you helping them by doing that?
If you care about them, why would you do that?
It's like raising a Jets flag at a Patriots game.
Why would you do that?
Speaking of being hated, this is, and this is speaking as someone who's Jewish, I'm not celebrating Easter, but I know you guys were.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
This is the single most holy day in the Christian faith.
Imagine if they started saying, hey, by the way, today's Easter.
But don't forget, Passover's coming.
Let's give a little love.
Passover's on its way.
You'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't bring me up on this.
You know what I mean?
This isn't my day.
If the whole goal of this Transgender Visibility Day, like it's not just Transgender Day, visibility, it's to be seen and heard and appreciated.
We see you.
This is the antithesis of helping these people out.
This will only make people hate you more and not want to see you.
You're conflicting with God.
Yep.
And not the thing.
When it comes to Trump and politics, 1 million percent is applying to the base.
The most ironic thing here is Biden, correct me if I'm wrong, is Catholic and apparently goes to Mass every Sunday.
His base is the DEI woke agenda, females, liberals, Trump, who, which is not the Catholic base, by the way.
You could argue whether it should be, but Catholics do not align politically.
They are a conservative.
No, that's my point.
Biden is, but not his base.
Trump, you could argue, is not the most religious guy.
I think he'd prefer to be playing golf on Sunday than being in church.
But his base is the evangelical base.
So, you know, you talked about your question on your show, who won the weekend?
Without a doubt, Trump won the weekend.
Trump, as you can say a million different things bad about the guy, he's the guy that's defending Christianity now.
He won it with funeral versus fundraising.
Exactly.
So, you know, the thing, I mean, just to kind of give a little context here, Transgender Day of Visibility happens on March 31st.
Nobody knew that.
Easter changes every year.
So if you follow any of the Jewish holidays, dude, I never know what day is what, what day is what.
We know Christmas, December 25th, boom, book it, right?
Every year, Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah is a different day, different week.
We have no clue.
Easter, technically, it's called a movable feast.
So it falls on the first Sunday after the full moon, which occurs after the spring equinox.
Good luck remembering that.
But same for Ash Wednesday, same for Good Friday, same for Paul Sunday.
So this is just horrible, horrible timing for Biden in an election year.
Last time this happened was 2013.
But, you know, to go back to the Soros side, the reason why the Soros comment is a little weird.
And I said, and I know you're kind of like, well, some people think of Soros, whatever.
You ever read his article on LA Times, the interview he did?
What he told LA Times, can you pull up the article I just sent you, Rob?
This is an interview.
Golalore.
So this is all the way at the top.
This is la Times.com.
George Soros, the God who carries around some dangerous demons.
Gola Lore.
And I want you to go to the middle of it.
Fancies.
Search the word fancies.
Oh, right there.
Right there.
Right there.
You just had it.
You just had it wherever you were at.
Oh, you just moved it.
Fancy.
Right there.
It seemed that Soros believes he was anointed by God.
I fancied myself as some kind of a God, he once wrote.
If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from my childhood, which I felt I had to control.
Otherwise, they might get me in trouble.
He continues.
It is a sort of a disease when you consider yourself some kind of a God, the creator of everything.
But I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.
That's the father.
So this is why people are worried about Soros.
This is a very strange guy.
If you've never seen the documentary about this guy, highly recommend you watch it.
And mind you, this is his son.
What's his son's name?
Alex.
He's taking over the company.
George Soros is older and unhealthier than Biden.
Well, first and foremost, let's not forget it's election year.
Everything happens, especially at this level, for a reason.
What did Elon Musk say about George Soros?
He hates humanity.
For somebody like that, that's pretty smart.
We could all agree.
He says he hates humanity.
And let's think about it, guys.
This is the Trans Visibility Day.
Trans falls under the umbrella of what'd you say, Tom?
LGBTQ2A plus elemental people, all that stuff.
Look at how perfect is what they're doing.
They're angering the Christians against them.
So imagine now, imagine for this week how much hate that community is going to get.
And what have we been seeing in the past two years, Pat?
How many mass shootings have these LGBTQ communities?
Everything is on purpose.
Everything that they're doing, and you nailed it, Mo.
That's exactly what they're doing.
You just pissed off the Christian base, which now they're going to start talking shit and going after.
But they didn't do this, though.
This was done to them.
To them.
Yeah, exactly.
Correct.
But going back to the perfect puzzle.
This started with Obama in 2009.
Right.
Okay.
So this isn't horrible timing.
But this is, but the point about this is the deceptive side.
The deceptive side.
Yeah.
All you had to do was wait, just to wait a few days and give love to Christians and give them their message, a nice message to them, respectful about it.
But you were, the way you did it, it's very obvious you're playing the game.
No problem.
Now, the average individual who's an independent voter, because your vote's what matters the most, the independent, the libertarian voter who is paying very close attention, pay close attention.
You're probably the only vote that matters in America today.
Right's going to vote right.
Left's going to vote left.
The middle, watch the gamification taking place.
So when events take place and there's a shooting at a trans event and something happens, and then they turn that into the next George Freud and there's ceremonies and protesting and riots going on.
Remember when the agitation started on Easter.
Just keep that part of mind.
Let's go to the next story.
Let's go to the next story.
Next story I want to go into with Suge Knight.
Suge Knight claims Diddy's life is in danger, urges Diddy to turn himself in, okay?
And I listened to this recording.
I don't know if you guys did or not.
He's doing 28 years in jail, just so you guys know Suge Knight.
And Suge Knight goes all the way back in the 1995 ward ceremony when he said, if y'all want to be part of a label that the owner doesn't need to be in every single video, developing all videos.
Hey, the source of war.
Come to death row.
Come to death row.
He says that, right?
If you want to play the clip with what Suge Knight just said on the recording, Rob, I think you, yeah, if you can play just that clip right there, go for it.
Everybody's been talking about the puppy situation.
Oh, Rob, you can't play this.
You can't do it, Rob.
So anyway, so let me just read this.
Knight said he prays for Diddy's kids, but also blasted the mogul for giving up hip-hop, giving hip-hop a bad image.
I'll tell you what, Puffy, your life is in danger because you know the secrets.
Who's involved in a secret little room you guys are participating in?
The 58-year-old Knight said he added, they're gonna get you if they can.
Knight noted that he turned himself in to face his charges, and he thinks Diddy should do the same.
Sometimes you got to face the music.
That's most of the time.
Knight said, Knight also insisted that Diddy would face serious trouble if he ends up in prison.
You got to make a decision when you go to prison.
You're going to be standing up pissing or squatting, sitting down, pissing.
Knight said before, warning Diddy not to use his nickname, Brother Love in Prison.
Got to give this guy some.
Do you think, is there any bigger enemy?
Choose your enemies wisely than Diddy has with Suge Knight.
Suge Knight is the Diddy of Death Row Records.
So we talked about this on previous podcasts.
In the 90s, the biggest beef in America was the East Coast, West Coast rap.
So when Sug Knight is talking and giving friendly advice to Diddy, just be careful where you get your counsel.
He does not have the best intentions for Diddy.
You got overlays on this Combs issue, right?
Because it's taking on a cultural component about people looking with a jaundiced eye at hip-hop.
It's happening more and more as this goes, and there's no direct action on Combs.
The first thing that bothered me about this is, why is a guy who's doing 28 years for voluntary manslaughter and he didn't just turn himself in to do the right thing?
Okay.
But a noble cause.
had him why is he after i killed the guy i got arrested i kind of turned myself in i don't I don't understand why he gets a platform in prison, first of all.
Like, if you want to punish the guy, shut him up.
You know what I mean?
You're doing your 28 years for murder.
What are you saying, though?
I'm saying that why does he get to give press statements about what's happening with Sean Combs?
The guy should be in a box thinking about what he did for the next 20 years.
Would you want to interview him?
Would you want to interview Shug Knight?
Oh, of course.
I'm a shameless opportunist.
But I think that as a rule.
As a rule, I don't know why a prisoner who did something that bad is getting that kind of access to free speech.
But the idea of this becoming more about hip-hop, this investigation doesn't smell right from an investigative perspective.
And I'll tell you why.
Ordinarily, here's how it works.
You start working bottom-up in an investigation like this.
This is essentially a RICO case.
Okay.
This is a racketeering case.
That's what they're going to do is get him for ancillary activities that were part of what they're going to say was a criminal enterprise.
You get the little guys.
They start to bubble up.
You now get your subpoenas out.
You get your information, your web of networks, of contacts and communications, which is a treasure trove these days because everybody's doing this all the time.
Then you punctuate it with things that you now have an understanding where they might be and what they might mean, and you raid.
And then you indict and/or arrest.
That's the way it usually works.
Here, we didn't hear about a lot of these things until the raid, which may have been motivated by these civil suits, which are laid out very well, by the way, especially that little rod.
It reads like a novel.
Then there's no action on Diddy.
Diddy's waving, going to Adam's friends' restaurants.
He was in Pura Vita in Miami filming with Wes Watson this weekend.
There's something.
Meanwhile, his sons have been arrested.
There's something off about this investigation.
And what it smells like to me is that hip-hop is a great boogeyman for the feds.
Hip-hop is bad.
They don't see it as what it is now, which is my kids' culture.
Okay.
My white kids living in the Hamptons live hip-hop.
My daughter is going a little country on me, the songwriter.
She's been writing some country, so I don't know where she's from.
Taylor's from where she gets that from.
But I think that there are going to be some big surprises in this investigation of the nothing variety.
And it's going to be a big problem for the feds.
You bust a billionaire's house who's a major culture figure.
You put his kids in cuffs.
I know they thought there may be weapons in the house, and that's a protocol for them.
But I tell you, I don't think they would have done it to Mark Cuban's kids.
And I think that this is going to wind up having a nothing burger aspect.
You think so?
I'll tell you, I know that 90-10, anybody who's been around investigations will say, no way, they would have never raided his house if they don't have him.
Look, an indictment is a probable cause standard.
It's the lowest standard in our business.
That's why we say you can indict a ham sandwich, right?
I don't smell that they have him on the kinds of major felonies that were being teased early on, except for one component.
He's got a lot of friends.
No one's defending him right now.
That makes me a little suspicious.
Where are his friends?
But it doesn't, it's not lining up right in terms of how they usually do this, Pat.
I know I'm right.
When Sug Knight is your biggest advocate, you got some problems.
Go while you're I want to hear which way go to 50 Cent by the way play that clip to see where he's at.
This is Miami.
Go ahead.
Yeah This is Wes Watson Piravita by my pad run into the man right here.
What's up?
Miami's like that.
It's a movie down here at Go to 50 Cents Instagram.
But go ahead Minnie.
So more, what do you think about the aspect of a lot of people and not just, you know, online ex-people making those, you know those videos posting?
But what about the aspect of because he, he looks like he's happy, he doesn't got a care in the world the aspect of all the cameras and all the stuff that he recorded on some Epstein level stuff that they went in and the some major players at Powers AT B went in just to make sure all the footage of all the shit that I had with all these elites was taken out and deleted.
And then he flew that plane.
He well, he wasn't on it, but this jet with God knows what was on it flew to a place.
Where was it?
Where Antiga, with his no extradition to the U.S.
That thing is there.
Whatever's on that plane is gone.
That looks like the guy to me that knows that he's good because they're like, hey, listen, with all the shit, with all the girls that are with all the kids' stuff and all that stuff, we got to go in there.
We got to raid.
We're going to take out anything that we seem, we deem like that can get our people in trouble and we'll get it out of here.
I think that that seems more feasible to me from a person with that type of attitude that's just like, yo, what up?
All love.
If your kids are getting arrested and you're walking scot-free like that, something is definitely fishy.
Rob, do you have that clip from 50 Cent?
Go to the one to the right, top right.
Yeah, watch this.
Press the audience.
Go forward.
Hey, yo, right now, though, for real, I need to know who fucks with me.
You know?
Like, just straight up.
Like, I don't have the time.
You know, if you fuck with me, let it be known because I'm going to this next era and I'm lying on the ball of allies.
If you fuck with me, let it be known.
If you don't fuck with me, be quiet.
And I will take your silence as you don't fuck with me.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's all love.
But if you fuck with me, let it be known.
Because big thing.
Okay, so is he saying if you're with me?
Yes.
Are you with me or against me?
Are you on my team?
But if you're with me, publicly come out, publicly come out and be like, hey, whatever's happening with Diddy, I volunteered.
What I want to know is tell me one person that supported him.
I know.
This guy.
That picture.
This guy.
Tell me one person.
No care right now.
One person that's come out that said anything that I got his back.
And that is the suspicious thing.
So what does that tell us?
So my reporting, talking to some of these people who I thought would come out, and obviously you protect them as sources.
That's what the media is supposed to do ethically.
And they say, look, I don't believe that he is gay.
Not that that's a crime.
That he is a pedophile.
I don't believe it.
I don't like these Bieber videos.
I think they're misleading.
But, but, but.
They all have a but, and it all goes to abuse of his power and what the people around him may have been doing that he was caught up in.
And that's why they're staying quiet.
Now, the problem is also that you got Fiddy.
I keep getting yelled at for not saying his name right.
50.
Is it F-I-T-T?
You're Chris Cuomo.
You say what you want.
You start wrapping up in the club right now.
You do what you want.
You're from New York.
It's 50.
All right.
So 50 Cent says bad things about Biggie about Combs because it's competition.
Suka's saying bad things because competition.
That's getting covered more than the actual investigation.
And that's my problem with this is there's an overlay of kind of hip-hop culture going at itself.
And that's a distraction from the actual case.
And I really believe that I haven't seen any indication except that raid, which was, I've never seen a guy of his profile get done as dirty as that raid was.
You know, people say Trump got raided.
Trump didn't get raided.
They didn't have any weapons.
They didn't draw any weapons.
It was done by arrangement.
They spoke first.
That's a raid that they did to a billionaire named Sean Combs.
It doesn't smell right to me.
It doesn't smell right.
Speaking, did you see this clip?
Did you see this clip of Mike Tyson and him sitting next to you?
Yeah, very weird.
Can you, Rob, if you can, you know, pull up this clip?
By the way, I just typed Diddy Tyson.
There you go.
Watch this.
It's a little weird.
So, Tyson and Diddy are next to each other in an interview.
This is what Keenan Ivory Waynes is the host.
Look at that hand.
Watch what Tyson does.
It truly is about the Benjamin, as we see.
Oh, yeah.
Put it on his lap.
Look at this.
Moving out the way.
Well, now, when we come back, we're going to talk more with Puffy.
And if you want to hang out, more than welcome.
Stick around, my brother.
All right.
We'll be right back after this.
Yeah, look at him.
He doesn't like his hand near him.
This is probably from the night.
Yeah, but still, he's still moving his ass away from his.
I don't know.
Tyson was on.
Did we talk about Diddy with Tyson?
I don't, I think he kind of just.
What did he say about that?
I think he just skipped over that question.
Oh, he said all up.
By the way, where are Diddy's friends?
Where's Usher?
Where's Bieber?
Where's Lil Kim?
Well, he's friends with Will Smith.
He's friends with, obviously, the whole junior mafia crew, Mace, DJ Khaled in Miami.
These are his friends.
But let me ask you guys you a question, though, Adam.
What would be not necessarily the benefit?
What is coming out to stick up for a guy that you, at the end of the day, have no idea?
Why was he recording everybody?
Why are there cameras in every room?
That's a fun thing.
There's nothing illegal about having cameras in your home.
Small little cameras in every single room.
Is that illegal?
In your bathroom?
In your bathroom?
In your home?
It's not illegal based on how you use the footage.
But I will tell you, it's unusual to have cameras in a house as opposed to pointing outside the house.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like security cameras are usually looking at the perimeter.
Unusual.
Like when Pat caught me trying to steal some of the air valve covers in our cars, it was on the camera outside, not in my bathroom.
I fully disagree.
You can have cameras in your mouth.
You can.
You can.
It's unusual.
By the way, we officially know Adam has cameras in everywhere.
Yeah, I'm never going to take a crap in your house.
What the hell are you talking about?
Wait, hold on.
No, hold on a second.
If you have a camera in your house, in your bathroom, hold up, and somebody's in there peeing or doing drugs or hooking up with somebody, that's legal in your own bathroom and without them.
You do something with it?
Yes, but you can have cameras in your house.
If you do something with it, no, it wouldn't be legal.
Correct.
But in terms of wanting, you can do whatever in your house you want.
But if you then put it online or something, you've got to.
But here's my thing.
Here's my blackmail though.
But here's my question.
Have you ever seen any reality show ever?
It's cameras.
Yeah, but hold on.
That's different.
Every room.
How about Florida law?
So wait, wait.
So recording in private spaces without consent, such as changing rooms, bathrooms, or private homes, is illegal.
So I love you, Rob.
Thank you.
So going to my point, going to my point, what we're finding out is his house in LA, his house in Miami, his house in New York, these cameras were everywhere.
And bro, we're not just talking about, you know, Cassie was there with a couple rappers.
No, no, foreign dignitaries like the prince, they're saying these type of people were at this house.
If they found out, oh, he's getting, this is happening and there's cameras in the bathroom, you know what I was doing in that bathroom?
Go after him.
Get the system.
Get his ass.
Go in there and raid it.
That's what I would do if I was of that caliber.
That could be one of five things that you have to put on the line that could be happening right now.
Yeah.
Rico, sex trafficking, human trafficking, you know, repell on others, you know, rape, you know, guns.
There could be a lot of different things.
It's going to be Rico no matter what, because that's the vehicle that they created to make it easier to get all the other stuff.
Whether they can make the case in a way where when you read the indictment, which is the best it gets for the prosecution, right?
The indictment is the height of how compelling it is because you haven't really heard anything from the other side.
If you don't read that and you're like, oh, wow, they really have him.
And there are all these people that are testifying against him who are doing the activities for him, then my suspicion is right that this is sniffy.
Look, this is why they always get mobsters on tax.
Okay?
The reason they get mobsters on tax is, and that was a different day where guys basically, you know, once in a while, Sammy the Bull and others would talk, but usually it was a conspiracy of the quiet.
Hip-hop and these new things that they're doing criminally within that sphere, they all talk.
It's braggadocious at best.
So racketeering influenced and corrupt organizations is just a fancy way of saying we're going to catch you for the side activities that went into the main criminal enterprise.
That's how they're going to come at Puffy.
It's a much lower bar for them to make the case.
Let's go to the next story.
Let's go to the next story.
Israel accused of deadly strike on the Iranian consulate in Syria, BBC.
So Iran's Revolutionary Guards say seven officers have been killed in an Israeli strike on the Iranian consulate building in Syria's capital, Damascus.
Brig General, Brigadier General Mohamed Reza Zahedi, a senior commander of the elite Quds force, and Brig General Mohammed Hadi Haji Rahimi, his deputy, were named amongst the dead.
Iran and Syria's governments condemned the attack, which destroyed a building next door to the Iranian embassy.
The Israel military said it did not comment on foreign media reports.
However, it has acknowledged carrying out hundreds of strikes in recent years on targets in Syria that it says are linked to Iran and allied armed groups, which are armed, funded, and trained by the Revolutionary Guards.
Chris, what do you see with the story here?
Israel did it.
It puts America in a weird situation.
There is a chance that Israel did this with the United States' understanding.
America has been very impotent where Iran is involved.
Iran is the head of the snake.
Iran is involved in about every terroristic and anti-American activity in that region and elsewhere.
Israel is sending a message that you don't tell us what to do.
Now, this may not be as big a deal as I was making it last night, because I believe the United States knew that this was going to happen.
And they are at least tacitly okay with it.
Why?
Because we don't have the political will to go after Iran right now.
The American people don't want it.
They're afraid.
It never works out in their interest as far as they're concerned.
And I don't know that they're wrong.
But this is absolutely going to ramp it up because now all of their proxies, and we're seeing it already, they got hit in Galilee.
Hezbollah is launching more rockets.
You have an Iraq militia that is Iran-sponsored is now hitting them from the West.
It's going to ramp up.
And the idea that this was going to go away, it's not going to go away.
It's only going to expand.
We've gone past the tipping point of this being able to end easily.
And by the way, with all this noise, the one word we're not hearing is the word that should matter most to everyone listening to your podcast.
The hostages.
When do the hostages matter?
Everything else matters more.
Now we're in the Iran mode.
Meanwhile, these people are rotting.
They're being abused.
They're being assaulted.
Why don't they come home first?
Why isn't that the first thing?
Hamas, you want us to treat you fairly in any way?
Give them back now.
Oh, no, we'd be losing our leverage.
You took them.
Give them back.
That should be the sole focus of the American negotiation.
And it isn't.
It boggles my mind.
But they did this.
I think they did this with U.S. understanding, and it's going to expand the footprint of this.
And it's going to get uglier before it gets anything other than that.
I completely agree with that.
And you have to understand in U.S. foreign policy how we communicate sometimes.
Sometimes we communicate with aid.
48 hours before this happened, the U.S. approved giving F-35s to Israel along with $3.8 billion of advanced, advanced guidance bombs.
Why say that publicly?
We do that in the evenings without the world know about it every Tuesday.
Why say it now?
We're sending a message to Syria and others.
Hey, we are now sending advanced stuff, very advanced.
This isn't F-15s.
This isn't F-16s.
This isn't the, you know, the, when you hear those, those numbers, those are planes around 25 years that are still, you know, you know, heroes of the sky.
The F-35 is a very advanced aircraft that went with $3.8 billion to Israel.
We're sending a message to people around there.
This was a proxy hit.
We knew about it.
We knew it crossed the line.
When you go on the other soil and you cross these sovereign lines, it's very symbolic and it brings in.
Israel was acting almost as a U.S. proxy because we want Hezbollah and those who know in Syria.
Listen, dudes, you know, don't cross over here.
There's messages being sent to Hezbollah in many ways.
Don't get in.
And the way we're doing it is we allow Israel to cross the line, make a big hit, not a rocket, not a defense missing, not Iron Dome landing rockets over the border.
Make a hit.
And we say, oh, by the way, we're sending them advanced weaponry, very advanced weaponry.
So it's huge.
So let me ask you guys a question, though.
So obviously the North Korea threat, it's kind of there.
We have the China threat all the time.
Russia is always going to be our threat.
Because now if they're bombing this guy in Syria, how much longer until they actually extend and they actually do attacks?
We're not doing anything in Iran, have we?
Has Israel with Cahutu thus bombed anything in Irania?
How close are we to that happening?
Officially?
Israel has made it very clear that they will hit anywhere at any time where there's an existential threat.
I do not think they would hesitate to hit anything that was Iran-backed specifically or owned, and they would hit inside Iran.
Remember, they have a very different mentality than we do.
You know, there is no substitute for existential threat.
We've lived it once in our lifetime.
9-11 was perceived as an existential threat to at least the American way of life, if not to America's sovereignty.
And it was nothing compared to what Israel is dealing with.
And I don't have to tell you guys, you served.
You know what we did in response to that situation.
So Israel believes, how do we know this?
The Israeli people, Netanyahu is seen as a malefactor right now.
He's a bad guy, right?
He's got to go.
The policy is not going to change if he's gone vis-a-vis Hamas.
No way.
The war doesn't.
I mean, Adam, whatever you think about this, tell me.
But I'm not saying that Netanyahu's not making it worse.
But even if you get a new person in there who's a lefty, let's say, they're not going to just back out of Gaza.
Nope.
They're not just going to let Hamas continue to attack them.
And now you've got Hezbollah doing it.
They're very different than us.
And we are desperate for division in this country right now.
We're addicted to grievance.
They are fingers that become a fist.
I don't know what would make us become a fist, to be honest.
And that's sad.
They're going to keep doing this.
And no one's going to tell them not to.
Oh, yeah, well, we'll pull the aid.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
Whether it's Bibi Netanyahu, whether it's Benny Guns, whether it's Naftali Bennett, whoever's coming in is going to keep the exact same strategy that is happening right now.
Everyone's calling for the ceasefire.
I get it.
There's just one thing that needs to happen before the ceasefire.
The hostages.
People forget about that.
So, in order for us to stop trying to win this war, we need to get our hostages back.
And, you know, I make light of this, but they're literally negotiating with terrorists.
Okay, so good luck with that.
Here's what I'll tell you: you know, people make the metaphor: it's like, what happens if Mexico or Canada was, you know, dropping bombs, United States, what would you do?
It's actually a little bit more specific like that.
Israel is basically like Washington, D.C., and all around them, whether it's Maryland, Virginia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Jersey, Delaware, New York, there's countries that are trying to kill them.
And New York, the biggest bad boy in the region, is Iran.
Now, PBD can speak to this for the rest of his life.
He knows this more than anyone.
How do they say it?
Every Hamdo, Maddie, how do they say it?
Maddie, battlement.
I can't.
Sorry, my Farsi is not what it used to be, but they're calling for the death of Israel.
They're calling for the death of Jews.
They're calling for the death of Americans.
This isn't rhetoric.
This is policy.
So if you're Israel, you care about one thing and one thing only: the preservation of your country and your people.
And you'll do anything to basically keep them alive.
So if it has to do with taking a preemptive attack on Iran in Syria, we've done it before with Soleimani.
They'll continue to do it and they'll give zero apologies.
And they, unlike America, are willing to stomach what comes with this, especially when it comes to nuclear situations.
It's more complicated now with Gaza.
It's a far more complicated situation.
For people that know their history, this is in Israel's DNA.
And if you go back and read about a historical event that was called the raid on Entebbe, this is when Israel went and rescued a bunch of their own citizens on a hijacked aircraft, and it was very surgical and precise.
Unfortunately, in the world in which we live with tunnels and everything around Gaza, you cannot do it that way.
And you wish it would because it ends up being, you know, the mess that it is right now.
And it's just, it's, it's horrifying.
But it's in their DNA to say, I'm going to get my people back and I'm going to go take care of this.
PBD, can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
As someone who served in the military, this is a genuine question.
You know, the narrative around Iran and the Kudz force and everything is they're great at little attacks.
They're great at funding terrorism.
You know, they're the head of the snake.
What war have they ever won in the last 40 years?
What have they actually ever done and fought for?
How prepared are their troops to go to war?
Because I can guarantee you this: the Israeli military, if shit goes down, they do this day in and day out.
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's like fighting a guy, and you know, he smiles in your face, leaves, and does what he does behind your back.
That's one way of fighting.
Another guy that just you tell him, he tells you to his face how he wants to fight you.
That's another way of fighting.
It's direct.
Another guy you fight, he sends four or five guys after you.
That's another way to fight.
Another guy, he hacks you, makes your life a living kill, makes your social security public.
That's another way.
That's a different country.
There's many things.
These guys are the ultimate proxies on how many different militaries they build to piss people off.
And at the same time, you know, you can't underestimate their size and what they have right now and their backing on who's with them.
They have the right people backing them up.
And unfortunately, yeah, they got the right people on their side.
And that, you know, when somebody signs a 25-year, $400 billion contract with you, and that's China saying we're going to invest $400 billion in Iran for the next 25 years, you've read this story.
You've seen the story.
They got the right people backing them up.
So you're almost feeling like protected.
You know, the kid that goes into a bar and is like, yeah, what's up?
Like, I had a sergeant.
He was a small guy, 5'6 ⁇ , 130.
You met him before.
He was on a podcast once.
And every time we go to a pool hall, he'd be like, Yo, what's up?
What do you want to do?
And he would hustle people for money.
Oh, really?
And is he going to do something to me?
You know who's my friend?
That guy writes.
Oh, no.
Do something.
Do something.
And then guys are like, and then I'm like, Felix, I'm not going to pull out to get into another fight.
But I knew if I'm going with Felix, he's going to hustle people because he was the best player on the nasty.
He was a nasty player, a great professional.
He knows how to play.
So Iran is a little bit of that and a little bit of deceptive, dark way of competing and fighting.
But by the way, they're also not somebody you want to, I don't know.
It's not, Israel has to keep their reputation going the way they are.
They're the types that's going to say, if we're going to do something, we're going to do it.
They're doing it.
They're keeping their word to their people.
I don't think that's going to slow down.
Let's go to the next story.
I want to talk about real estate.
So real estate, ending 6% commission, Tom, I'm coming to you with this, could turn out to be a Venus flytrap situation.
Rob, pull up the picture of Venus flytrap.
It's very important for us to educate these people.
Don't have a clue.
How do you not know what a Venus flytrap is?
If you've ever seen the movie Little Shop of Horrors, well, like Audrey.
Yeah.
Like, what could be eating home?
I'm hungry.
Ending 6% commission could turn out to be a Venus flytrap situation for homebuyers.
And economists says, okay.
First time I learned what a Venus flytrap was yesterday.
So National Association of Realtors settlement expected to take effect in mid-July, pending approval aims to remove upfront display of commissions for buyers' agents on multiple listing surveys, a move that could result in additional costs for home buyers.
According to a real estate economist, Ken Johnson, the situation resembles a Venus flytrap where buyers might find themselves at a disadvantage.
Johnson cautioned that approaching listing agents directly could leave buyers ill-equipped to secure the best deal going directly to a listing agent who represents a seller in a legal sense puts the buyer at an extreme disadvantage in terms of bargaining power and market knowledge.
With the proposed changes, buyers may need to cover their agents' fee themselves, potentially adding significant expenses to their home purchase.
For instance, on a $400,000 house, paying 3% commission to a buyer's agent would translate to an additional $12,000 in cost for the buyer.
Tom, what are your thoughts on this story?
Well, first of all, this is economist Ken Johnson, who represents the real estate industry.
So what side is he on?
They didn't want the status quo to be upset.
They didn't want buyers and sellers, excuse me, they didn't want people to be able to negotiate with realtors and say, hey, there's a very nice house.
Why don't you do it for 4%?
Because there's three guys that want to represent me.
Oh, okay.
I'll do it for 4%.
That's the way this is going to work.
You know, somebody selling the house has the control.
And what they're saying is, if buyers go direct to a listing agent, that's not the way it works.
When you want to buy a house, you will have a buyer's agent.
There will somebody represent you.
And this guy's trying to stoke fear that this law is going to create problems and everything.
And so he's representing the industry, but that's not the way it's going to work.
Somebody's going to say, hey, Vinny goes and he says, I'm going to go buy that little house.
He goes up there.
No one's going to say, oh, you're kind of screwed.
You're going to have to be paying the fees because the guy selling it's going to go, no, no, no.
Chris is going to say, no, no, wait a minute.
If Vinny's capable and can buy my house, I'd like to sell him a house because I'd like to have a good buyer come in.
I'd like to sell my house.
I don't want the listening to be here forever.
And so you make a deal.
And they say, well, we've agreed with, you know, Adam the Realtor.
He's going to do it for 4%.
We're going to do this.
This is basically the industry is scared to death of the power that they're giving the buyers.
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
This is a very good thing because people have been sitting there 6% like this.
Is it a good thing for people like you where you're in the 1%, Tom, because you could actually be a realtor?
Or is it good for the 80% of buyers?
I think this is good for the buyers and sellers who are no longer forced into a 6% arrangement.
They can negotiate with the best listing agent they want, find someone they like, and come to agreement on the commission.
I disagree with our friend Tom here.
Because we're in the insurance business.
We've seen what's happened with the DOL laws.
I'm actually shocked that our friend Tom, who's been an advocate for the Department of Labor, what's going on in the insurance business, isn't advocating for your real estate friends, Tom.
Here's the reality.
We know if you're selling a $10 million house, $20 million house, they're going to negotiate with you up front.
The 6% is going to get split, three and three, that gets the trickle-down effect.
But to me, this is the seller trying to save $10,000, but ends up losing out on $100,000 in the long run.
So great.
So I have a good friend, Gio, he watches the podcast all the time, my realtor.
He says, number one, you just got to be fourth red about the commissions.
Straight up, this is how it works.
This is what's going on.
Let's have this conversation up front.
Number two, I'm going to bust my ass for you.
I'm going to get the best deal possible for you.
My job is incredibly hard, incredibly different.
I'm going to carry the brunt of paying out the out-of-pocket costs to market your house.
And number three, if you want to go about this alone, go for it.
Good luck.
You're not going to do the best job possible.
You're going to get screwed.
So are there situations that you can negotiate commissions?
Sure.
But I firmly believe that salespeople in finance, in insurance, in real estate deserve their commissions.
And if they don't, they're weeded out of the industry anyway.
Yeah, I mean, Tom, this reminds me of the one realtor that we were introduced to from our church in LA to sell our last house, which I'm sure you remember this story with that smile on your face.
So she gets introduced to represent our house.
And I watch her when people come and look at the house.
And it's driving me insane at this point that this girl doesn't know how to sell this house.
Oh, no.
So finally, I told her, I got a couple of people coming to looking at the house today.
I don't want you to come.
Don't come.
Just stay home.
So she says, what are you talking about?
Everybody wants their agent to be there.
I don't want you to be there, but I'll sell for you.
You don't need to come.
The guy comes.
Okay.
I sell him the house.
I give the tour everything.
He makes the biggest offer, cash price, you know, cash offer.
I call her.
I said, it's done.
You can handle the whole thing.
I said, from here, don't talk to the client.
Just do the paperwork.
You shouldn't be talking to clients.
You're not a salesperson.
We sold the house.
She sucked as a realtor.
Okay.
So there are certain people whom we'll kind of go back to his point.
They absolutely don't do the client, you know, the right amount of service to sell her because they're just trying to kind of sell and get a check for them, right?
They're not thinking about that additional $100,000.
It's $2.2 million or whatever the house is.
I'll sell them for this value.
Now, some realtors that bust their ass for you, let me tell you, those guys don't get paid enough money.
Some of the guys that do a good job.
But, you know, in some instances, it's actually a great idea.
In some instances, I can see Tom's argument as well.
Because when if Tom comes to your house, Vinny, okay, I guarantee you, within 20 minutes, this is how Tom is.
This is what he does.
You just lose Tom.
He does one of these things.
He's going to be in Tom mode.
He says, you know, for about $220,000 you put into this house, you can probably increase the valuation by a couple million dollars if you did this.
And here's what I would do.
Anything he buys, he makes it better.
You know that saying, I leave you better than I found you?
That really is Tom.
Not just with people, with property as well.
That's how Tom is.
So Tom never needs a realtor.
Tom literally doesn't need a realtor.
For the average person, they need this service.
Tom, when Tom come to my house, exactly.
Tom is not the average dude.
Tom comes in with paperworks, case studies.
This is the guy that doesn't.
Tom's father with the rocket science activities, guys.
Listen, when you go to buy your house, take Tom.
What do you mean?
Or take a real self.
I already did.
He'll give everybody to save five grand.
Chris, what are your thoughts on this story?
Listen, it's always tempting to have variability in a locked-in system, right?
There is something unsatisfying about having someone tell you this is how it works.
It's 6%.
And you want to play with that because you may think, like Pat does, well, one, I'm very competent, or my house sells itself, and you're not even doing anything.
You know, everybody in the market right now is dying for this.
You should take less.
So there's an appeal to that.
But also, things in such a well-worked system as real estate tend to be the way they are because that's the way it works best.
So I think you have a balancing effect here.
I do wonder, you made the point, Pat, in terms of the 1%, the sophisticated people like Tom.
But I do wonder if it's about, well, what type of real estate are we talking about?
If there are a thousand units that are just like this one and there's very little variability in price, well, then you're going to have to work it to get this to sell.
You're going to have to put money into printing advertising.
You're going to have to work your contacts.
You're going to have to do things.
But if we're trying to sell your house right now, I don't know why you'd need a realtor, right?
All you have to do is just say on the show that you want to sell it and you'd have like 50 offers the next minute.
So I think it's situational.
And there are a lot of, to Adam's point, there are already a lot of protections in place when it comes to real estate.
So I don't think it's about needing to keep the percentage locked in where it is because that's where everyone's safest.
I think it depends on where it is.
My concern is more with the insurance market that you're starting to see industries take advantage of their customer base for their own profits.
We're seeing that certainly in the insurance world.
We're seeing it in California.
Now you guys are dealing with it here in Florida.
We're starting to deal with it in New York.
Certain industries are looking to start exploiting their customer base because the margins aren't what they want it to be anymore.
I don't know that that's true in real estate.
Well, by the way, and it's not exploiting, right?
It's more the incentive because once incentive leaves, interest leaves, right?
So what is my interest of doing this?
There is no incentive.
So guess what?
I'm out of here.
I don't want to do this anymore.
So that's the problem with this.
But by the way, Tom, what was it before?
So after this thing, was it 6% before that now they're saying now the buyer, the seller can negotiate with the realtor, with the realtor?
Right.
There were disclosures and they weren't.
Remember, this is not, you know, hey, let's just change the rules.
This was a 15-year court case.
It started with an arbitration, went from here to here to here.
And this is a settlement that the industry had to make, you know, with America.
And they removed the upfront display of commissions for buyers' agents.
And so that buyers and sellers could look at it.
And somebody selling a house had more control.
Because remember, right now, everything comes out of the seller's hide except the origination fees on the mortgage.
A buyer comes up, they pay an origination fee or whatever fees on their loan, and that's it.
Everything comes out of the seller's hide.
Hey, you know, the faucet's tripping.
I don't like that.
Maybe, well, wait, you're going to buy a house.
There's going to be a maintenance you have to do.
Yeah, but I want you to fix this.
And it gets ticky tack.
All of that just lands on the seller.
And this basically said, hey, you know, we have to disclose this differently and buyers and sellers should be able to do it.
I almost think there's a part of it that's already happening, anyways.
Like it's already going on.
Like negotiation with, yeah, I'm not doing it for this price.
I'm only doing it for this percentage.
So I'm not going to do it.
Okay, no problem.
You know, I'm, you know, here's what I want.
You can put all that stuff.
And by the way, say you over-negotiate and you're like, hey, babe, we got this guy good.
We over-negotiated.
His motivation goes away.
He's got cases he's going to make more money on.
So it's like you have to also manage the incentives.
But I want to go to the California story here since you brought it up.
California homeowners face an insurance crisis.
What will it mean for home prices in the state?
State farm decision to not renew 72,000 existing insurance policies in California, representing 2% of its state's policies, adds to the list of insurers, including all state farmers' insurance, Hartford and USAA, withdrawn from the state due to increased wildfire risk, exasperating concerns over extreme weather conditions driven by climate change, driven by climate change.
Here we go, Market.
The insurance industry's pullback from California is anticipated to have significant repercussions on the real estate market, potentially leading to slowdown in demand and falling home prices with a 2023 study by CoreLogic indicating that every 10-point increase in wildfire risk results in a 1.3% decrease in home price in San Diego County.
So every 10% increase in wildfire decrease 1.3%.
Interesting.
Rising insurance premiums with the average annual premium for single-family homes in U.S. reaching $1522.22 in 2020, according to Freddie Mac, contributes to homeowners' financial burdens, prompting some to consider moving to other states to evade premium hikes.
Chris.
So subject to what Tom has to say about this, insurance rates are one of the least discussed economic impact stories in society right now.
People are getting killed on insurance rates.
It's becoming unaffordable for them.
The default rate is going nuts.
And you're seeing it across the board.
Not just homeowners' insurance, car insurance.
They're even letting their life insurance policies lapse, even term ones.
I have an idea for those people, by the way, if they ever need anything.
But continue.
Go ahead.
So this is one of those things about where the industry has too much leverage over the politicians making the policies.
There's something about insurance that's different.
I'm a free market guy.
I'm a capitalist guy.
I believe in it.
I believe in it's the central value of American society.
But, but, but, when you have this much leverage over people, I don't think you get to walk away.
Because what happens to these homeowners now?
What is the state going to have to get into the insurance business?
Because what are you going to do?
Well, you don't control wildfires.
Oh, well, then don't live there.
But that's not a reasonable.
Very good point.
So that's my concern.
This has bothered me for a while.
And in fact, I'll say something that I probably shouldn't.
Do it.
I have had this happen to me because I am a lawsuit risk, right?
Not just because you're going to slip and fall in my house.
The umbrella coverage is civil liability, period.
So, you know, the next time Vinnie and I go out and I don't like what somebody says about him and we get into something and they say nine bones in their face are broken.
And they say, that's my insurance.
I got dropped.
Nothing even happened.
But the risk was assessed.
And look, I was able to get other coverage.
It wasn't easy and it cost me about 35% more.
But they're doing this a lot now.
So they are looking at their PL and deciding, you know what?
Pat's not worth it.
And I think the industry gets too much protection already and has too much leverage already to be able to make these capricious decisions that are just on the basis of P ⁇ L.
Now, you'd say, well, that's capitalism.
I know, but they get so many protections and they're so built into an adjunct of being the state already that I think they have a responsibility to cover people.
By the way, while you're saying that, Rob, pull up both articles, both CNBC articles.
So this is one.
The average cost for a full car insurance went up 26% in 2022.
That's a lot of money.
I mean, we're talking about groceries and gas, which are very real.
But 26%.
What is the average car?
So right there, it tells you car insurance costs have risen to a little jump.
$2,500.
Mine's ridiculous.
In fact, according to BankRate, the average annual premium for car insurance rose to $2,500 in 2024, up 20%.
So $2,500 would be, it used to be $2,000.
So that's a $500 increase.
That's a lot of money.
And then go to the other one, Rob.
Go to the other one, CNBC.
And this one says, what?
Homeowners insurance rates skyrocket in these 10 states.
Here's how to lower your premium.
So homeowners insurance is another one.
What are the 10 states that it's saying it's skyrocketed?
Let's see if it says it or not.
Okay.
There they are.
So let's see.
Louisiana.
Holy shit.
Damn, Rob.
63%.
Nebraska, 61%.
Keep going.
Colorado, 49%.
Arizona, 40%.
Utah, 37.
Illinois, 35.
D.C., 33.
Dakota, 33%.
Arkansas, 32.
Kansas, 32.
That's a lot of money.
And look, and my next layer of the complaint is this.
One, this is the only industry, maybe, maybe the healthcare industry to a different degree, where they don't pay the whole VIG anyway, Pat, because you get all the state and federal aid into disaster areas that comes in, right?
And the other thing they do, which is also in the health insurance company, they slow walk you to death.
I don't know, you know, I've dealt with a lot of disaster areas, obviously.
And there's a good buddy I made through a disaster in Louisiana where he was talking about, he would keep contacting me and saying they're still not coming.
The adjuster came because the state officials make them come, but then they disappeared.
Weeks, months, no cash coming in.
Your house has a hole in the top.
It's a sponge.
And they slow walk it and slow walk it.
So you need your money up front.
If you're late by a day, they default.
When do they have to pay you, by the way?
They don't.
They don't.
You have to sue.
Who has money and time to sue when you have no house?
When you're living in a hotel and everybody's going crazy and you're trying to keep your job?
They leverage you.
So my point is, at what point do you push back and say, look, I get that it's free market.
I get it.
But you have so much artificial support on your side already.
How do you balance the equities at some point?
And that's where I think we're getting to is a tipping point.
Now, nobody talks about it for two reasons.
Okay, so there's one I just want to keep going.
I want to talk about this.
Keep going.
One is it's complicated, right?
And two, the parties don't see an advantage over the other one in the issue.
If I were able to say, and it's Vinny's fault, punk Vinny, this is why you vote for me.
Vinny's their guy.
They give money to all of us.
Everybody, yeah.
So nobody sees it as an advantage, so they're quiet on it.
And it's killing people.
It's killing people.
Yeah, I just typed in right now.
What's the speed homeowners insurance has to pay out?
Okay.
And he'll pull it up here.
D.C., no set time limit.
Makes sense.
Florida is 90 days.
Okay.
Hawaii is 30 days.
Georgia's 10 days.
Zoom in a little bit.
Interesting that Georgia's so 30 days.
Wait, but what does it say?
Make a payment?
After accepting the insurance must make a payment.
Not the full payment.
Not full payment.
A payment.
Fool me once, Cuomo.
Got it.
So that keep going a little lower.
So California, 30, 30, no set time limit.
D.C., no set time limit.
Florida, 90 days.
Georgia, 10 days.
Do you see a difference between blue and red, or it's irrelevant with the reds?
Because right now the lowest one is what?
Lowest one was 10 days, which is what Georgia.
That's red.
But Florida is also red, and that's 90 days.
So it's not really a political thing.
It's just laws by difference.
They go a little lower to see what a New York would be in some, like I said, 15 days, Maryland, Michigan, 60 days, Minnesota, five days.
Damn.
Okay, that makes sense.
A payment.
Yeah, just the payment.
Not the whole payment.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, I'm sure they found ways around it.
The lobbying group is huge and well-funded.
They give money to all the politicians.
You know how life insurance works?
Life insurance is actually very fast.
Some of them will work to, like, let's just say I've had clients, I've written their policies where their urine sample came up that when they went to the bathroom to pee, you don't go as an agent and say, let me see what you're doing.
It's not like the military.
So, you know, they bring you back.
One of the ones they found out because it was in the incontestability phase, the two years, that it was the brother who peed.
Okay.
So guess what?
They just gave the premium back, no death benefit when the guy passed away.
But for life insurance, after two years, the contestability clause is gone.
You die after the two-year mark of you buying an insurance policy.
Say the death certificate, boom, checks coming your way.
Life insurance works very quickly.
Well, I'm obviously very familiar with the two-year contestability mark, though.
I'm in the insurance business, very familiar with that.
Here's my methodology.
And then I actually have to go take a urine sample for insurance policy.
Go for it.
I got to pee too.
Because maybe I'm just in the insurance business, and I understand this is my methodology.
It's not going to work for everyone.
Certainly not going to work for people with kids.
But if you're a guy like Vinny, or if you don't have kids, you don't have the responsibilities that certain people have.
It's almost like the Wizard of Oz.
You see the movie, The Wizard of Oz.
He's a big, scary guy.
You peel back the curtain.
You're like, what?
This is what's going on back here?
When it comes to buying a car, who doesn't want a nice car?
Go look at what the insurance premiums are on the cars these days.
Go look at what the cost of a new car is these days.
Go look what costs of a used car or at leases.
Ridiculous.
Highest of all time.
House, who doesn't want a nice house?
Vinny's been talking about a house since the day he got here.
Good luck with these insurance premiums.
What they don't tell you is that when you go to buy a house, there's the big three expenses.
We've talked about this before.
Your taxes, your maintenance, and your insurance.
None of that is sexy to pay for.
Zero value.
HOA.
But that's what's going to crush you.
Question for you.
How much do you spend on Uber every month?
Less than I would for a nice car.
No, no, I'm asking you.
Well, what do you spend?
Between $500 and $1,000.
How much is the Uber coming up here from Miami?
About $40.
Okay, so it's not $540.
It's also the cost of doing business today.
Hang on.
Hang on, hang on.
I'm asking you a question.
Hang on.
So $40 up here.
$40 going with it.
With the tip.
So that's $80, right?
So that's how many times you're up here?
Two times?
I get a right home.
You get a right home.
So you come up, but you get a right home.
Yes.
Okay.
So let's just say you get it every time you go home.
Or 50% of the time.
Let's say 50.
I do 60.
50% of the time, every time.
Okay.
So 60, how many times you're up here?
Three times?
About three days a week, yes.
Okay, so that's times three times four.
$720 is your car.
With no tip, no tip.
I'm just using them at a second.
And then whatever you're doing there, so you're spending on $1,000 on Uber.
Yeah, how much do you think I'm going to spend on a nice portion?
Let me do the buddy.
Relax, bro.
So if you take $1,000 a month, you're doing on Uber, then the argument becomes, so if you're doing $1,000 on Uber, let's say you're doing $1,200, you buy a brand new car right now, it's probably going to cost you the car you're going to buy.
It's probably going to be $1,200.
And the insurance $400.
He's probably right.
And the part of the gas title and the maintenance and the God forbid.
Yeah, and the gas and the maintenance and all that stuff.
But here's the one caveat.
For a guy like you, when you go on dates, how do you do it?
Listen, let me know.
But hang on.
I pay for their Uber and they come to where I'm at.
That's done.
The days of the 90s, like, I'll pick you up at your door at 8 p.m.
That's dumb.
Adam goes like, I'll grab your Uber.
I'm actually asking you a real question because it's pre-my time.
Sure.
So if you're going on a date, you simply tell her to meet you where you're going.
The Uber's picking her up.
Be ready at 8.
The Uber will be there at 805.
And then I'll meet you where I'm going.
They're coming to my place.
No, but if you're going to dinner, because you don't even take them to dinner.
Of course they'll go to dinner.
Don't you tell the pimp and he takes care of all that.
Oh.
Tom.
Oh, oh.
This guy hasn't been late since no.
He's always.
That's true.
He's got a sting.
But the question, Vinny, but the question I got, the question I got is, let me ask you this.
How old is your oldest daughter?
We're going from this conversation, her daughter.
You'll see what I'm going with.
All right, good.
Be careful.
I know, I know.
21.
Okay, so 21.
So let me ask you, as a father.
I'm not going out without him.
But that's what I'm asking, though.
But hang on one second.
Let's just say, I'm trying to see if this is what fathers and so let's say your daughter says, dad, he sent an Uber to pick me up.
No.
Why, though?
What's wrong with that?
He's saying that's the direction everything is going.
You want the truth?
Yeah.
I'll give you the truth.
Okay.
You can't handle the truth.
My feeling is you have to meet me.
Okay.
You have to see in my eyes.
What do you think of this out here?
It means respectable, beautiful women.
Okay.
So this guy comes to the house to pick up the kid.
And my daughter, very strong kid, can talk to me anyway.
You know how it is with your daughter.
They can say whatever they want.
It doesn't matter.
You just love them more.
So she has already warned me off, you know, like put a shirt on.
I don't want to see you walking out there with the arms.
I don't want to see anybody.
Put the gun away.
I said, okay.
This kid, I come walking out.
He's in like his parents' car, right?
Some fancy SUV.
I look into the window.
I look at his eyes.
I believe they're glassy.
Okay.
I say, you come to my house.
You're smoking weed.
You come to my house.
You think you're going to pick up my daughter?
That's all I say.
He could answer the question.
No, I haven't been smoking.
His eyes fill with tears.
This kid.
I say, now I got a problem.
So I turn around, I walk back into the house, and she is now going the other way to say hello, Dan.
Oh, no.
I get to my wife, luckily, before Bella comes back in the house.
I say, listen, the kid's crying.
But in fairness, I don't think it's my fault.
I think that something crying.
I said something was going on with this kid.
I think, you know, maybe he was a little lit up or something, but I don't want her in the car with him.
All right.
And she comes in the house, lights me up.
I was, you know, and she was upset.
In my mind, I have to see the boy.
And I have to understand that he understands that this matters.
This is not just some other, this is not just some other chick.
And it matters to me.
So she's not going anywhere in an Uber.
And I'm not some caveman.
My daughter goes wherever she wants.
She's right now going on spring break with just another girlfriend.
They're going to Mexico.
I wasn't in favor of it.
She said she wanted to.
She showed me the checklist of where they're going and it's a closed facility.
She goes.
I'm not some caveman dad, but I believe that if that women have to drive the dynamic.
And if you send the message to this guy that it's going to go his way all the time, like this is how it is, you're going to come to him like your Chinese food.
It doesn't work.
What the hell do you mean the woman has to drive the dynamic?
You, as a woman, you have to know, you know the expression, know your worth?
If some suave guy like you can get me to do everything you want me to do, what message is it sending you?
I'm already a fungible good to you.
You got women all over you all the time.
I have to let you know that you have to respect me and treat me differently.
What part of there's no disrespect.
Let me tell you how women operate.
And you know this because you're a good-looking suave dude.
What women want to do?
That's a fair point.
Very fair.
That's a fair point.
Here's how women want to operate.
Let me tell you how women want to operate.
Married man.
Times have changed, man.
Listen, bro.
A woman wants to hear this.
We're going to go out for dinner night.
We're going to have a great time.
We're going to go all over town.
We're going to have the best time of your life.
Be beautiful.
Be ready by eight.
I'll pick you up.
You know what they say?
I'll be ready by eight.
They're never.
Gonna give you a speech.
I know my worth.
You're gonna take me out.
No, but it's all fine.
That's what I said.
That's different than I'm sending an Uber to you.
You come meet me at the club.
I'll be in the times have changed.
Make sure you grab a second.
Times have changed for you in Miami, but normally I'm not hanging on the girls.
I'm in Topeka, Kansas.
I'm talking about if you're in LA, if you're Miami, if you're in New York, Cuomo, you live in New York.
No one has cars in New York.
They're all Ubering.
What are you talking about?
Come get them.
Yeah, that's a role.
Sure.
Yeah, but the conversation in the car, the conversation in the ride, the whole thing said, send an Uber for me.
Yeah, but what, and you're probably raised your daughter better than most people out there.
Most daughters who are 21, you think they're even telling their father they're going out on some date?
Think of 20.
She's 21.
You think a 25 or 30-year-old woman is asking her?
What if she falls in love with the Uber driver?
You're thinking of a 21-year-old, not a 28-year-old.
Tom, can we get time?
That's fair.
Tom, what are your thoughts?
We're talking about two different stages of life.
What Chris is talking about, and I have a daughter who's going to be 18 in June.
And we're talking about the establishment phase.
When he is setting that up with his daughter, what he is saying to her is you have value and you should accept nothing short of certain standards for how you'll be treated and respected as a person.
And I've said this before and you've heard it.
The number one thing that I've always instilled in my daughters is teach them the ability to reason and resist, to reason with the situation and resist the things that are not good for you, putting a platform of personal value and respect underneath that.
And I've always hoped that if I could just put a platform, value, respect on their heart and teach them to reason and respect with their mind, if I'm on the wrong plane tomorrow, then I've given them the tools to grow and mature in a world where not all men are noble princes.
Not all men are respectful people.
And roofies exist in college at parties.
And I've put them in a position to get through that.
So at this stage, Adam, we're talking about, I would have been the same way.
I would have gone out and said, excuse me, if I would have walked up politely and just knocked on the window and said, hey, why don't you walk inside just for a second?
I want to say hello.
He knows how I am.
And if the guy doesn't want to get out of the car, I've been like, Tom, I met.
I've never seen a 17-year-old girl on a date and he doesn't want to walk talking about teenagers.
You guys deal with that nonsense.
I'm talking about grown-up stuff, guys, here, guys.
That's what we've been talking about.
You changed the cops, Princess.
And by the way.
Ooh, princess.
Yeah, the toughest thing.
That's got to stay.
You said 23 plus.
I'm just saying.
Guys, deal with your teenagers and your people.
Don't say one minute.
You know what I did at 21 year old?
Oh, deal with.
It's called grow, develop, and lead.
That's not what he was talking about.
But the villainizing of dudes out here that were all just roofing girls and take advantage of women.
99% of men are fucking great dudes.
And the fact that you just want to villainize menu.
That's way too high.
That's way too high.
I think men are being villainized.
I think men are under attack.
I think being masculine is under attack.
I agree with you with all of that.
People in general are amoral and self-interested.
That certainly goes for men, especially once you input sex.
I agree with you, but you know who needs to G-check the men?
The other men.
If you're around a group of dudes and there's 10 of us, hey, this is what we're going to do tonight.
And one guy gets out of line and he's like, here's what I'm going to do.
I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
I'm with you.
The girls aren't going to know that.
But I don't like PBD shaking his head saying, I don't know.
You're going to let your daughter jump into an Uber that somebody sent her to meet him at the club?
Oh, bro.
No, no, no, no.
You don't even know what it's doing to her.
I'll be over here if you need it.
If somebody comes up to want to pick up the girls and send an Uber, oh, bro, it is horrible with me.
I'm angry right now, just to thought.
And there's a thing, go to your public.
But by the way, let me tell you.
You guys, we didn't know each other when we were in our early 20s.
We didn't know.
We didn't party with each other.
We're all like, oh, family.
You don't have four kids.
But you don't know who I was at 18, 19, 20, 21, 22.
I'm as opportunistic as any 22-year-old.
So if you're naive, a fool, and an idiot, hey, and you're above 18 years old, 20, I get it.
Let's go to the club.
Let's do that.
I totally get that.
But the difference is if you're wanting to play to have fun versus if you want to have a family, those are two different stories.
If you want to play, have fun and book and score and have, you know, whatever that is, game.
But if you want to impress a girl's father that's going to be your father-in-law to be with that family, knowing you're going to one day ask for her hand, and that's going to be your father-in-law, possibly a father role in your life that you're going to be friends with because that man's, I'm planning on being that guy's friend.
I'm planning on being Senna Brooklyn's husband's good friend and back him up and making sure I'm developing them as a leader as well.
And we can go to dinner together in a game and just he and I, we can enjoy each other's company.
I'm looking forward to being that kind of a father-in-law.
And to have that, if you're looking for that, yeah, it's just not, and it's just not going to do it for me.
Now, if you're playing, dude, go for it.
Do whatever you want to do with the playing stuff.
But if you're looking to build a family and you want to impress that family, that you could one day, because think about it this way.
What if all of a sudden my, you know, someone's daughter is going on a date with you and this man runs a billion-dollar company and you and him are in each other's lives for 15 years.
He's now 80 years old and he's only got three girls and none of the girls want to run a company and you're the most capable son and he's sitting there saying, you know what, I can keep it in the family.
This guy can probably run the business because his kids are my grandkids and one day they're going to run it.
Do you know what I want you?
There is, I don't know.
Yeah, well, Mr. Diamond, if you're interested.
What I would tell you is this, because we're saying the same thing.
It's just it has to do with one thing and that's age.
If you're talking teenagers, college, everything you're saying is inappropriate.
But here's the reality, guys.
Marriage used to happen in the early 20s.
Now it's in the late 20s for men and women.
So everything you're talking about, marriage, kids, family, that's not happening at 16, 18, 21, 22.
It's happening when they're out of the house.
They're making their own decisions.
Go to the bathroom, bro.
Go to the bathroom.
I got a date, guys.
I'll tell you what, though.
And I don't want people, because I'm new to the team.
I've watched Adam when we're out, and I love everything about you.
Thank you, bro.
So it's not about you.
You showed up to my house to take out my daughter.
It would be a different proposition.
Yeah, I'm crying already.
I got to leave right now.
Yeah, go do your thing.
Go ahead and do your business.
If you smelled like Vinny, forget it.
I'd make you dinner first.
I'm not smelling Vinny all the time.
You wouldn't have to lose my daughter.
You've been hanging out with Don Lemon a little too much.
Let's do this.
Let's do this.
Rob, can you pull up the RFK?
Go to the bathroom.
You got to go.
Can you pull up the RFK clip with CNN?
And I want to get, you know, you know him very well.
You guys have spent time indirectly even family member at some point.
So this is RFK yesterday on CNN.
Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.
When people talk about the threat to democracy that Trump poses, do you really think that that is, is it equal to Biden?
Well, listen, I can make the argument.
President Biden is a much worse threat to democracy.
And the reason for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history, the first president in history that has used the federal agencies to censor political speech, so to censor his opponent.
I can say that because I just won a case at the Federal Court of Appeals now before the Supreme Court that shows that he started censoring not just me.
It was 37 hours after he took the oath of office.
He was censoring me.
No president in the country has ever done that.
The greatest threat to democracy is not somebody who questions election returns, but a president of the United States will use the power of his office to force the social media companies, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, to open a portal and give access to that portal to the FBI, to the CIA, to the IRS, to CIFA, the NIH, to censor his political critics.
President Biden, to the first president in history, he used his power over the Secret Service to deny Secret Service protection to one of his political opponents for political reasons.
He's weaponizing the federal agencies.
Those are really critical threats.
Donald Trump, of course, tried to overturn a free and fair election.
He tried to overturn one, right?
He's still fighting court.
How is that not a threat to democracy?
Well, I think that is a threat to democracy.
Him of course were trying to overthrow the election, clearly a threat to democracy.
But the question was, who is a worse threat to democracy?
And what I would say is, I'm not going to answer that question, but I can argue that President Biden is because the First Amendment, Aaron, is the most important.
Adams and Hamilton and Madison said, we put the guarantee of freedom of expression in the First Amendment because all of our other constitutional rights depend on it.
If you have a government that can silence its opponent, it has license for any atrocity.
So to be clear, you're saying you could make an argument that President Biden is a worse threat to democracy than ours.
Absolutely.
That's what you're saying.
But who else has ever tried to president in history has ever tried to censor political opponents?
What president has weaponized?
Here's a man whose father and his uncle got assassinated.
If there's anybody that knows about this that's qualified to speak on this topic, it's him.
Chris, thoughts on this?
All right.
So there's a lot here, okay?
One, you're seeing why Bobby doesn't get invited on a lot of mainstream networks, okay?
They do not want to hear anything that he's saying right now.
I would have had a different conversation with him.
I would have checked a couple of more points early on because he's very clever.
He's a very intelligent guy.
People mistake his voice for his cogency, and they're two very different things.
So Aaron, you see, is trying to distill the soundbite.
Kennedy says Biden more dangerous than Trump.
That's what she wanted out of it.
That's the clickbait.
I'm not criticizing her.
I'm saying that's what it is.
He is touching on something that is really, really important for Democrats to understand, okay?
The Trump is the boogeyman argument is not going to get it done for you with independence.
It's not going to work.
I'm not saying that you're wrong to make the argument.
I'm saying that people know who Trump is.
He's been weighed and he's been measured.
Every moment you spend not discussing policies that you will put in place and methods that you will establish with your leadership that is better than his is a moment lost.
People don't like what the government did under Biden during COVID with respect to policing what was on social media.
This is the democracy issue of our generation.
What you're allowed to process for yourself versus what is manipulated on social media is the issue.
Even the new feature on Meta where you can turn on and turn off different types of political speech, huge problem, huge problem.
We are in a censorship phase.
The federal government was censoring information to social media platforms.
We all know that there's always interface between media and government.
Over the years, I've had many different administrations come to me and say, be careful about this, be careful about that, be careful.
And I welcome it.
I welcome it.
But there's a line.
And they went over the line because they wanted to protect the government policies.
And they manipulated social media.
The social media people were stupid or gullible or transactional, whatever it was.
They were.
You mispronounced complicit or complicit.
And that's why.
You believe that?
You think they were complicit?
100%.
100%.
Because look, you don't have to do what the government's telling you to do.
Were there some subtle threats?
Yeah, I believe there were.
But Bobby is right about this issue.
Does it make Biden a bigger danger to democracy?
I think the whole thing is hyperbole.
I think neither of these guys are going to destroy the democracy.
Right.
Because a lot of people disagree with you.
I know.
I know.
No, not necessarily.
Not necessarily.
I think the part here, the one part of the democracy, the republic, the one part of the republic that, remember, this is a republic, but I understand the democracy argument as well.
The one part of it is that the argument he's making, which he's right, which he's right, okay?
The guys use the DOJ against his opponent to keep him busy.
You know, that part is a precedent.
So for example, you know, this whole thing about what they did to McCarthy, impeach him.
You know how much I wasn't a fan of that?
Kevin McCarthy.
Yeah, I'm like, guys, what do you, so now you know what's going to be happening?
So what happens in a company, you know, the saying goes, hire, slow, fire, fast.
Fully get that.
So that part of it I agree with.
Hire, slow, fire, fast.
You hire somebody and like, dude, this is not working out.
Look, bro, I've had the conversations and I let them say face to say, I decided to resign and leave.
No, you go for it.
And I will never give the name.
If they call me out, then I have to give the name.
But till then, I'm never going to give the name.
You're right.
Say face, go do your thing.
Totally get it.
Zero names will ever be given unless if they want me to say it, then I'll have to talk about it.
Sometimes just like, listen, bro, I don't think you like working here, and I don't think it's going to work out.
We got to move on, right?
But for the most part, when you work with somebody, Tom and I, remember, Tom and I started working together one time after, you know, three months, okay?
And we had something that we faced.
He's like, what do you understand?
No, we're moving on.
And we moved on and we moved on and we moved on.
Then we had an issue.
Then we moved on and we moved on.
Now, Tom's family to me, Christmas, every Christmas we're together.
He's pretty much a Syrian.
He doesn't know it.
He doesn't know what I'm thinking about asking him to change.
I think that David, because then for sure, all the assets flow through.
You know, it's just like it's going to be a different kind of a situation.
I'm learning to shave my back.
Why'd you have to go there?
You raised his back.
As weird as this sounds, how much hair do I have on my back, Tom?
Zero.
You can't find a single hair on my back.
That's why he's been shaving.
It's a different story.
Billy Boy is a different story.
But the point is like this whole, let's impeach, Bro, let him have a little bit of momentum to see what he does.
What did McCarthy do?
Okay.
The negotiation with MT, you know, and Matt Gates and all this stuff.
Okay, fine.
Now this next guy, John.
So let's farm.
I was going, most of these guys are establishment guys you're putting there as a speaker.
What do you think you're getting as a Republican guy that you're putting there, right?
That's one thing on what we're doing.
If there's anything that's given me a lot of trust in the system is the last three years, four years in America, I'm new to politics.
I've not been in the political world, my entire entire life.
Matter of fact, I hate politics because to me, every time I think about politics, my parents got divorced twice because of politics.
I was a kid that wanted to come home to both my mom and dad being home together.
One was a communist, one was an imperialist.
They divorced over politics.
I hate politics until eventually I realized taxes is politics.
And you want to silence me?
Now I'm not going to stop doing this because I don't like to be controlled.
And I have to fight for some of the guys that maybe can't fight for it, right?
But the part for me on what happened these last three years, you know what it is?
This system in America is a freaking sick ass system.
For the matter of the time, but let me tell you, bro, Biden is giving his speech four weeks ago and he's trashing the Supreme Court.
And it's a 6-3 Supreme Court.
They're 100% united against the president.
Amazing.
Do you know how emotional that moment should be for every single American to know that they are fighting for the freaking Constitution?
I would love to stand in front of them and salute the freaking Supreme Court that we got.
The system we have with the Senate, with Congress, with I'm meeting with my Goldman guy and he's saying, listen, here's a history.
Since 1929, except for the black swan events that we have, the market's always done better, the more it's divided.
The market's done always better, the more it's divided.
Meaning, you know, divided government.
100%.
The executive as a Republican.
Yeah, the Democratic Congress.
And we're looking at, I have the data upstairs.
He said, look at this.
He subscribed the way it is.
Every Goldman's, every Morgan, every one of these guys wants a divided administration between, you know, all this stuff.
I'm like, okay.
The system is billed so well.
However, Chris, if Trump was your father, if you were born a Trump, not a Cuomo, okay?
Chris, this is purely hypothetical.
If you're born a Trump, not a Cuomo, this is not even a.
Hypothetical, we're going.
This is not even a question we're asking here that could be: if I'm born a Cuomo, our relation, the first time he's DM me, saying, why would you want me on your show?
You remember the first time you said I said, what do you mean, why would I want you on your show?
I respect the facts.
I have two boys.
My boys, I'd love for them to have each other's back the way you have your brother's back.
I have so much respect for the way your father raised you.
I don't need to know politics, right?
The rest is just conversation.
Whatever.
Oh, okay.
Thank you.
So, but the point with what they did this time, if you were a Trump, not a Cuomo, and they did to your father, let's say Donald, they did to him what they've done the last few years just to Twitter, okay?
You know, don't let that New York Post story go.
50 intelligence agents, oh, you know, there's nothing to do with the laptop.
We all bought into it.
And even Comey in 2016, in October, came out and whatever the date was, 29th, I think, came out and said, no, those emails, she could have handled it better.
He could have waited a week and he didn't.
As much as we can trash Comey, you have Trump because of Comey.
I think so.
You can say whatever you want about Comey.
You don't have Comey.
You don't have Trump.
Hillary would have been the president.
And she would have probably been a two-term president, by the way.
If you think about it, right?
I forget impeachments and allegations.
So, all I'm saying is, if that was your father and they did what they did to your dad and they went after him the way they have, dude, you would be like, what the hell is the matter with you?
So, the RFKs, the only example I can give with RFK is three families.
It's really think about three families.
It's the Kennedy families, the Cuomo families, the Trump family.
Because that part, you can as a, you can go to a case study and say, Don Jr., how do you feel?
RFK, how do you feel?
Chris, how do you feel?
Yeah.
Because why could you relate to that?
Father Mario Como, three-term brother, two-term, New York governor.
This is not like this the financial capital of the world.
You're not a governor of that state.
It's the equivalent of a president of another.
You're a president of any of these bigger countries in the world.
That part I agree with RFK, with what Biden has done.
Well, Bobby starts with high ground in this regard.
Not giving him security as a Kennedy is a risk that is not worth taking.
God forbid.
I had somebody ask him on my show the other night, a caller, you know, came in and said, aren't you afraid, given what happened to your father and your uncle, that they may come at you?
And he said he was not afraid because he had been taught by his mother and family that there are worse things than death, which, first of all, think about how heavy a lesson that is.
That is not hypothetical as it would be for anybody else to agree with.
But given who he is, not giving him protection.
Look, we know why they're not giving him protection.
They'll say some BS about he doesn't check the right boxes that trigger it, or we don't want to set a precedent that when someone doesn't have really a legit chance and he's not from a party, he gets protection.
Say whatever you want.
This guy's special, and they should have been aware of that.
It's a bad move that they should be doing.
Yesterday.
What is the reason why?
The reason why.
We're saying that he doesn't meet the criteria of threat profile and things like that that require it, or that there is no set policy of this guy, of just someone getting protection because they're running.
There'd be too much protection needed.
Whatever the rationales are, they don't apply here.
So that's first.
Second, we are absolutely in a phase where we are prosecuting political opponents.
It's happening all the time.
Even the impeachment, now that's a purely political process, okay?
Okay, fine.
That's what it's for.
It's still being abused because we are so addicted to grievance.
We're so fed on division that that's all the two parties are playing to.
I agree with you about the system.
I always say America sucks until you compare it to anywhere else.
You know, it's easy to attack.
Tell me where else you want to be.
However, however, this party structure is not what it used to be.
Your friend who was showing you the graph and the black swan events, we're in a black swan event where they don't believe they have to do anything anymore because they have succeeded in dividing people to the point where a Vinny and a Chris forget they have common concerns.
Vinny believes these things should be done and here's who he blames for why it was on the border.
I blame different people and I want different things done.
But we both care about the border.
They have succeeded in getting us to forget that.
And all Vinny thinks is that I'm a threat to him and I think he's a threat to me.
So they aren't doing what divided government usually does, which was compromise and create policies that balanced equities and moved us in a direction.
They're doing nothing right now and they're being rewarded.
America should learn from the Supreme Court example theirself.
100%.
I'm telling you, America should learn from those guys on what they're doing.
And by the way, they didn't agree in their, they agreed in the ruling, but the Democrat, whatever, the liberal justices wrote opinions that were like, we don't like this about it.
We don't like that about it.
Totally fine.
But they had common concerns.
Exactly.
And so do Americans.
Every time you do a poll, it's seven and a half out of 10, Pat.
Seven and a half out of 10.
They meet on the same issues.
Protecting your family.
What kind of education are they going to get?
Do I have a chance for my kids to make more money?
Can I be upwardly mobile?
How safe are we?
We care about the same thing.
One time I was in a former company, a guy named Jack Lender, great man.
I traveled with him on the private.
First time I traveled on private jet, it was with him.
And his wife's name was Linda.
Great people.
And one time, you know, we're having a conversation about leadership.
I'm 26 years old.
And he says, here's how I work.
He says, I'm on the board.
He says, there's many times I disagree with all the decisions that we're making.
And I'll tell him I disagree with you.
But he says, the moment we walk out that door, we're all on the same page.
And he taught me this very vital lesson because, you know, some people are like, well, I never agree with them anyways.
Well, I know I'm with you and those divisive personalities.
He was trusted, I wouldn't say by everybody, the way he led.
And I think it's Supreme Court kind of showed that.
Vinny, I want to go to it and I'm going to the next story.
And then going back to her, because her main thing was, Trump's Aaron Burnett is more of a threat to democracy than Trump.
And it was yet.
So Trump is saying it wasn't a free and fair election.
Let's at least admit right now that it was not a fair election, especially when you said Twitter, the FBI was actively there.
They gave everybody their clearances, Chris, to freaking stop all these stories, which would have helped them.
And this goes to me saying that the First Amendment mandates that the government can't limit or censor speech based on its content.
The Biden administration and others, they casually dismiss this arrangement as rationale for someone to prevent misinformation.
But we all know misinformation is in the eye of the beholder, correct?
It's not up to the government to say, well, we think it's misinformation.
We don't trust them at all.
So at the end of the day, it's up to the governed, not the government, to decide what's misinformation.
The FBI has zero legal authority to stop it by using Twitter as its agent, as it violated free speech rights of the people who were censored.
So going back to Trump, he has 100% ground to stand on.
It wasn't a free and fair election when your administration with the FBI is at Twitter stopping stories.
And they said for a fact, they did a poll.
What was the poll?
If they found out that the Hunter Biden laptop with China information, with Biden, with all those deals was actually public, they would have voted, what, 60%?
Would have gone the other way.
So at the end of the day, Chris, I just want to stop.
67% on it.
67%.
So let's all, all of us stop.
That is called cheating.
You cheated by making these stories not go out.
The other guy won, besides China and Stay Home, which, by the way, we still don't know definitively that it came from China.
I think it's still racist a little bit to say that it came from there.
That is cheating.
So how can you blame a guy for saying it wasn't free and fair?
It wasn't.
You guys were cheating.
So if we could say that, he's not a threat to democracy.
He just wants to be like, oh, yeah, you guys cheated.
Let's at least admit, say you guys cheated, and then we'll move on.
Because if they cheated then with that, who knows what else they were doing?
If you got caught doing that, what else were they doing?
You know what I mean?
In a world of soundbites, you have to kind of listen carefully to this.
And unfortunately, that's not the way the average person listens to CNN.
What R.F. King Jr. was saying is, I would argue that.
And so what he was saying is, hey, I would argue that the guy that did all these is more of a threat to democracy.
He was not waving the flag and saying Biden is a threat to the future of the Republic.
The Republic's going to fall under him.
But that's the soundbite that she wants.
That's what the producer is.
That's on him, Tom.
He shouldn't have said, I'm not going to answer that question, but I could make an argument that you don't have it both ways.
You did answer the question by saying that you chose to argue that Biden is as big or bigger a threat.
That's going to be the soundbite.
That's on him.
So what should he have said?
What are you saying?
Either say, I'm not going to answer the question.
I'll let people decide.
Don't answer any of it.
Well, he said, I'm not going to answer the question, but, and then he said.
He answered it.
You can't have it both ways.
You just can't have it both ways.
Look, on the election, you can't have it both ways.
You're right about the messaging argument that you make.
The problem for Trump is that he tried to get people to change the vote structure.
And then he had people advance theories, right, to be generous, about how things had been corrupt that were not provable in any way.
And the organization that he was banking on came forward and said, we don't have the proof.
That's what they're worried about.
That's what the lawsuit's about.
I just wish that lawsuit had come first because these other lawsuits in New York make the opposite point that you guys are talking about, which is, wow, it looks like they're out to get him.
It just looks like they're out to get him with these New York lawsuits.
But because at the end of the day, can you blame Trump for going, well, I don't trust any of them if you literally had the agency at Twitter, which was, bro, that is our free.
I don't blame him for the feeling.
I blame him for what he was alleged to have done and said.
I don't blame him for feeling that he was getting rooked.
But what you do to deal with that situation has to be legal.
Well, you can't go to the FBI.
You can't go to the government.
They're the ones screwing you up.
I get the predicament, but I'm saying, picking up the phone call saying, find me X number of votes.
Correct.
You got a problem.
That's why the Stormy Daniels, BS, New York stuff, Letitia James stuff.
I think it helps him.
That's why the FBI files, the Mar-a-Lago stuff, that's that's I think it helps him.
Yeah.
Correct.
But and on the files, Georgia finding 11,000 votes.
On January 6th, this is where they can happen.
I think he baited them.
I think Trump is very savvy and knows that every time the government comes after him, it proves his point that they're coming after him because he's trying to protect Americans' interests.
Let me tell you one thing about RFK.
Whether you're going to vote for the guy or not, you have to respect the man.
The mainstream media doesn't know how to control him.
They don't know how to manage him.
They don't know how to handle him.
That's why they don't invite him.
I'm saying that's why they don't invite him.
And that's why I like him.
And who do you think he's going to hurt more?
I don't want to move that.
Who do you think?
100% Trump.
He's in a hurry to Trump vote more.
Absolutely.
Why do you think?
What do you mean?
Why do I think?
Is it those independent, those people that are kind of wishy-washy?
They're like, how will they?
Because a Democrat is not.
RFK almost says everything Trump says, but where RFK is different is what?
Abortion, RFK is different and some of the social stuff.
Well, the independent and the libertarian now has an option for those that will never vote for Trump.
They're going to vote for RFK.
And that vote's not going to matter.
Just so you know that.
The Democrats who hated Trump and they voted against Trump, they're still going to vote for Biden.
For sure.
You know, they're going to vote for Biden no matter what.
They're like, dude, voting for Trump for them is like I had Stephen A. here the other day, right?
I love that.
You know, by the way, great discussion.
Oh, by the way, one of my favorites, I really love the conversation we had.
And I asked him a question about his mom when I said, hey, your mom, she lived like a conservative, but she voted a different way, right?
Left.
I said, okay.
I said, if your mom was around today, how would she vote?
Oh, without a question, conservative.
Without a question, conservative.
He didn't even hesitate.
He said, without a question, conservative, right?
I think there's going to be some closet Trump voters this year that they won't tell anybody.
I think there's going to be a lot of people that are still part of the camp that they hate Trump and they're going to vote the other side no matter what.
But I think RFK is going to take and make those people who are anti-Trump like Charlemagne the God.
Guess what?
That's us out.
Those guys who have influence, RFK is going to pick up that vote.
And it's going to help the left.
It's not going to help the right.
It's going to hurt Trump.
So those sound bites, whether you agree with him, disagree with him, he needs stuff like that.
I mean, he's, what are his polling numbers even look at?
This is 538 right here.
It's shocker alert, still neck and neck.
Trump Biden.
Kennedy is going to decide the election.
If he gets on enough ballots, he could be Ross Perot and then some.
I will tell you, the Democrats are more angry at me for having Bobby on News Nation than they are for me saying, look, if you want to vote for Trump, vote for Trump.
He's not my guy, but you got to look at the policies.
That pisses them off because they say this guy is an existential threat.
He's the devil.
They're more angry about the Bobby, and they just had a bunch of key state matchups.
And when you add in Bobby, Biden's number dropped in every one of those states.
So that's why they're spooked.
And that's why the DNC just put together a team they're saying to target third-party candidates, but it's really just Bobby.
And if you've noticed in the last couple of weeks, because I know a couple of the people they hired and they're good, Bobby's starting to take hits.
And you're going to start seeing more hits.
It started with about Shanahan, which was a weird VP pick, especially when he told me I would have picked her even if she was broke.
Come on.
And then there's dissension within the campaign.
People don't like how things are being run.
Bobby's not really in control, which makes no sense.
Those stories are going to be fed by the left.
I don't know if it works with Bobby's audience.
I think the audience that's going to vote for Bobby, like for example, I'm not asking you this.
I'm just speculating.
I think you'd vote for Bobby.
I think you, just watching you and talking to you the last year or so, I don't think you're excited about a Biden vote.
You don't have to answer this question.
I don't think you're definitely not excited about a Trump vote.
That's more family.
You can't vote for Trump because it's a, in my opinion, in my opinion, I'm not telling you it is.
I could vote for a Republican.
I'm not going to vote for somebody who openly attacks my family.
Okay.
So that's what I mean that I don't think you would vote for Trump.
Yes.
And I don't know if Trump can do anything to gain your vote.
You said yes a couple months ago, but I don't think Trump's.
Stop attacking my family.
Stop making it hard for my kids.
Yeah.
And then I'll start assessing the policies.
Would you, though?
Would you sincerely, would you, if let's just say, let's just say if I talk to Trump and we do an event and you do the town hall, okay?
It's you and Trump doing the town hall.
Your interview on him.
We'll do it at our studio here.
We'll sell out the tickets.
Boom.
You're hosting an event.
It'll be hosted on PBD podcast, let's just say.
But it's you.
I'll come up and I'll say, hey, great to be here.
And then I'm out the way.
And you're doing the town hall, the two of you guys together, okay?
I wouldn't love that arrangement because I'd lose 50% of my intelligence as soon as you walked off the stage.
I think you would benefit the conversation.
But okay, I'll accept that.
Okay, but let's just say we did that, right?
Okay.
Whether you and I do it or you do it yourself, maybe we do it together.
And I'll say, but what do you think about this, Chris?
Maybe we do it together, right?
Can he do anything to get your vote?
Yes.
My vote?
No, let's go slow here.
If the former president came out on that stage and said, that Fredo stuff bothered you and I shouldn't have played with it and I shouldn't have tried to get you fired and I shouldn't have celebrated what happened with your brother and I shouldn't have baited my followers in a way that they went after your kids.
That was wrong.
And you've never done that to my family.
You've always treated me with respect in person.
Shouldn't have done that.
You give me my respect.
I give you yours.
Now, I would take a step back because, look, I mean, you know, I think most people are probably like me.
Guy comes out and insults your family, makes it hard for your kids.
You're never going to vote for him.
It doesn't matter if he's offering you zero tax rate for the rest of your life.
Then I would say, all right, let me look at the policies and let me see what kind of leader I think this guy can be.
But I will never give a guy a shot or a woman a shot with my vote if you openly attack my family.
But I said what I said on the show last time, which, you know, was a little taken out of context by people, but that's okay.
You should be open to voting for whoever supports your interests.
I don't believe that Donald Trump has the strategy, the vision, or the ambition to destroy our democracy.
I don't believe he's interested in that.
I don't believe he's capable of that, frankly.
So look at the policies.
You have two weak choices.
Look at the policies, figure out what's better for your family, go with it.
Yeah.
So I, again, so for me, finishing my thought, I think you're internally feeling more comfortable with an RFK vote than anything else.
I love the disruption.
Yeah.
I love the disruption of the two-party system.
But I also think there is a little bit of affinity with the families.
I think there's also a little bit of connection there, and that makes an easier vote.
Well, his family's been sweating me.
His family's been sweating me because they're not going to be able to do it.
Would love to see this.
The chances that Trump apologized to you publicly, zero.
You can't say zero.
You can't say zero.
I don't know.
The Boy Cohn school of thought never apologized.
No, no.
First of all, I don't disagree with him.
I'm on his side.
I don't disagree with him.
I think what he could say is it's behind us.
And look, you know, like I remember one time he was on your show and he's like, you know, I much prefer your father than you.
And he would always try to kind of get under your skin.
But that's kind of like what.
I'm okay with that.
But by the way, that's kind of like what that happened.
Like even when we did the live podcast, one guy made a comment from the back.
I'm not a fan of that.
And I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
You said something.
Come sign a waiver and whatever.
I'm not a fan of that kind of stuff when that happens with us.
I don't entertain that conversation because I want to actually have the conversation, right?
I'm not trying to disrespect.
I'm trying to have the conversation.
No, I think I can see how it would be tough.
But at the same time, Chris, I can also see from having conversations with you.
Like as much as you guys watch this here, I wish you could see how we are in the car with zero cameras, zero audio, zero nothing.
It's a hundred times more fun than what you see here, right?
Our relationship, what it's like, right?
And it's sincere, genuine love.
We enjoyed, right?
And you would sit there like a lot of people come to me and say, the other day I'm getting ice cream with the kids and a guy comes up and says, hey, you know, I know people are giving you a hard time with the Cuomo thing and all that stuff, but I see what you're doing.
You're trying to bring America together, man.
I just want to tell you, I support you and all this stuff, but, you know, and these types of comments that come up.
Great.
Dude, for three years, people were telling me, fire, fire, fire.
If I get one more Manek, people would spend $100 just to tell me to fire at him.
I'm like, bro, save your $100 on Manek with that.
Grandma, you want me to do that?
The chat right now is already saying that.
Can I give Pat some kudos?
Because this anecdote you're talking about, Cuomo, I actually think that's the most of America.
I think because it's a business-driven political podcast and it's an election year, people were so divisive.
You put any two Americans in a room, they're going to get along more than disagree.
And that's the fallacy of what's going on with this two-party system and this binary.
It only benefits them.
And that's why they keep us apart.
They hate when we talk to each other.
Yeah.
They hate it.
And we're going to keep doing it, by the way.
So that part's going to continue.
All right, let's go to the next tech story here.
YouTube could be worth $400 billion.
That's more than Disney and Comcast combined.
Wow.
We should be paying more attention, says Business Insider.
Now let's see what angle they're taking with the story.
Here we go.
Analyst Michael Nathanson forecasts YouTube's standalone valuation to reach an impressive $400 billion, driven by its reported operating profits of $5.5 billion in revenue of $45 billion in December 2023 with anticipated growth stemming from subscription services like YouTube TV.
Despite its significant financial cloud, YouTube often eludes scrutiny in discussions in online safety by the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, contrasting starkly with other tech giants like MetaSnap and TikTok, which were grilled during a recent hearing on big tech and an online child sex exploitation crisis.
A comparative analysis underscores YouTube's dominance in the media landscape as its projected value surpasses the combined market cap of industry behemoths, Disney and Comcast, standing at $224 billion and $172 billion each, underscoring its pivotal role in the streaming domain and digital advertising market.
Tom.
Well, I think what people need to understand about the story, and forget that it's insider.
Let's look at the reality of what's happened to YouTube.
YouTube has become basically Comcast.
Who had DirecTV forever?
I mean, DirecTV, right?
All the, what, 17%, 20%, and DirecTV was the home of NFL Sunday Ticket.
YouTube TV is now a cable service, including live television, including DVR in the sky, and including NFL Sunday Ticket, the exclusive home of the NFL for all those games.
And I'm not promoting that.
I'm just saying that's just it.
That's been announced.
So YouTube has all the user-generated content.
YouTube has all the live video podcasts, such as this one.
YouTube is operating YouTube TV, and they are basically, you know, a cable op.
They're an MSO now.
And on top of it, you know, they've got the streaming and over-the-top.
So when you say, oh my gosh, it could be this value, it's really not about the value.
It's about the clout and what's happening and the changing face of how we distribute content, how people consume content, and that the wall garden is dead.
And so this doesn't surprise me.
I think the $400 billion is light because YouTube is, and by the way, comparing it to Disney, Disney stock is up recently.
They have some changes, announcing layoffs and now doing things.
But think of Disney.
When you think of Disney, just say theme parks and library.
And when you think of Comcast, just think of distributor.
And so content, library, and distributor and more is YouTube, and it's worth more.
And it's not saddled by all of Comcast, not to get into details, but Comcast is saddled by a lot of infrastructure.
All that cable and hardware and everything that runs around your neighborhood and the boxes that's in everybody's house.
That's Comcast.
They have to invest in that.
YouTube's investment net, zero.
They have servers and it's all that's necessary.
They don't have all the facilities everywhere.
So this is really talking about: hey, 400 billion, Pat.
I think that's light because of where YouTube is going and what it's replacing.
I don't understand the economics the way Tom does.
It makes sense to me what he's saying.
I think the most important aspect of YouTube is that it is a marketplace of ideas.
And I think that that is the most important commodity in media.
And look, they do plenty of community guidelines stuff, and they have their own internal policies.
I believe, as Vinny was mentioning earlier, we have to get away from the mindset that it's okay to limit things that you don't like.
We have a great mechanism for it.
It's called the law.
If something is illegal, then you can't be saying it, doing it, et cetera.
Short of that, let people decide.
And who should want that are the people with the best ideas?
Exactly.
I want to hear the people who are putting out myths or disinformation or BS.
Let it go.
It makes it easier for me to be compelling.
When you censor, you empower things.
YouTube hasn't done that the way the other platforms do.
And I think it's seen as more of a, ironically, safe space.
Not that you can't find freaky stuff on there that might scare you, but that you know it's up to you to decide.
And I think that's the commodity.
That's the precious thing, and we're losing it.
So good for them.
Yeah, I would tell you today, YouTube hasn't, but during COVID, the first two years, YouTube was brutal.
I cannot tell you how many guys were taken down who were doing great content, couple million subscribers, channels wiped out, businesses taken down, demonetized.
They were making 30 grand a month, 50 grand a month, some $100,000 a month, gone.
Some of the smaller guys, they're making $8,000 a month, doing all the edits themselves.
They're gone.
So YouTube did some of that stuff.
And a lot of times people will contact me and they'll say, yo, how come you're not going on all this platform?
And how come you're not doing this?
And how come you're not going to Rumble?
And how come you're not going to these places?
I love what Rumble's doing.
I think they're very necessary.
And I think Chris is a stud of a guy.
And hey, Bongino, all those guys.
Salute.
Love him.
I think we're about to have Bongino on in a couple of weeks.
I don't know when it is.
Rob, is it the next couple of weeks that he's going to be on?
May.
May.
Early May he's going to be on.
I think Dan is.
I thought Dan was going to be the face of Fox.
Love him.
I'm telling you, I thought Bongino was going to replace O'Reilly and Tucker.
I thought that guy was going to be the guy that we're going to get behind.
It's now sweet to you at UFC, but he was very kind.
He said hello.
He looks great, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he's a stud.
He has a voice and he's cracked.
Yeah, but the point is, but the point is, we need Rumble to do what they're doing.
Twitter, super necessary.
The fact that Elon bought it, by the way, if Elon doesn't buy Twitter, YouTube would be a bigger bully today.
The reason why YouTube is not bullying is because of Elon.
And if Elon doesn't buy, here's a crazy.
What do you call it?
Not scenario, but prediction is if Elon doesn't buy Twitter, Rumble Today is a $10 billion company.
If Elon doesn't buy Twitter, Rumble Today would be a $10 billion company if Elon doesn't buy Twitter.
So would truth.
And Truth Social would also be a $10 billion company today, if not higher, if Elon doesn't buy Twitter.
Elon buying Twitter eliminated a lot of other things.
So for me, going back to YouTube, I think YouTube's got a great technology.
Their product is a good product.
If your job is in the business of converting people, you want to convert people here on YouTube.
You can come here and talk about all these other things.
You wonder like, you know, sometimes you're like, well, you know, how about this?
How about that?
Nope.
YouTube's got a very good platform.
I love what Spotify is doing.
But the fact that they're a $400 billion company, I wonder, Tom, strategically, like, do you sit there if you're running YouTube, you got a $400 billion company, $45 billion in revenue, $5.4 billion in net profits?
Do you sit there and say, okay, what are we not in?
Sports, what do we have?
Boom, Cope America is coming up here.
Do we want to pay to do Cop America on YouTube?
Maybe.
Do we want to do what, you know, who did the Miami Dolphins game against Kansas City Chiefs?
Amazon, I believe.
Not Amazon.
It's the other company's name.
What is the name of the no, who took the Miami Dolphins game against Kansas City Chiefs?
Peacock, right?
And they paid $110 million for that.
Do we do that?
The music, they're already dominating, all these music channels.
Do we go into the movie side?
And do we, we already are doing it?
Should we go?
Do we go into the, do we go into the, like, I would be, YouTube could sincerely dominate the game.
Now, if Elon flips and he does some things on the video side, like on Twitter, here's what doesn't work with Twitter with video yet.
There's still not a search.
I can't search to find out what's going on.
I can't fully put a description with the link and type, you know, all that stuff.
You can, like Tucker does it, but it's not fully there.
If Elon wants to compete with the YouTube business, there's plenty of money to be made there.
And I still, by the way, you know, this was it, a month ago, I got in trouble and we got a strike.
I got a strike for the V-word about the COVID.
Dr. Malone said something factual, his opinion, his professional opinion.
I got a strike because I said everybody knows on YouTube.
That's you can't.
And we're going back to your point.
Remember, don't go deeper on this.
No, no, I'm not.
Don't go deeper.
It's insane how still something picked up and went, oh.
But how insane is it that we have something called the V-word?
It is very, it's not an opinion for me.
Okay.
You know, as a speech person, this is really concerning.
I get it both ways, right?
I am given this odd symbolism as someone who is a vaccine proponent.
I was doing the job of reporting what we were being told and asking questions as we go.
You were saying earlier, we don't know.
I really believe the virus came from China and we should have stayed on it.
And I don't care if they wouldn't give us access.
That tells me everything.
I won't let you in my house.
It's because I know what's in there.
I start doing, I have long COVID.
I see it in my blood.
I'm not happy that I see the spike protein in my blood.
I didn't want to have this.
I have it right now.
I'm doing a long COVID protocol right now with a doctor called Robin Rose.
We're going to see if my blood work changes.
Spike protein is a problem because it creates microclotting and it can go into different organ systems.
So you've got to take care of it.
All right.
It's a thing.
A lot of people have it.
Okay.
We don't know if the spike protein comes from the virus or the vaccine.
You've got to ask.
They've got to start getting answers.
You've got to do the research.
They keep taking their content.
So I'm the guy who's supposed to be Mr. Jeb.
Like, you know, I'm Junior Fauci and I'm getting censored because I'm raising a question about which way it goes.
This is very unhealthy for the democracy.
This is very unhealthy for the democracy.
You have to let people be the discerners of what information they want to take in.
If you don't agree with what I'm asking as questions, answer them with better information than what is supposed to my question and you will win.
And they will listen to you and say, okay, it has nothing to do with that.
It has to do with this.
But that will never happen if you silence my idea because it only gives it power.
And I'm worried about that.
You shouldn't have to say the V-word.
People shouldn't send me coded messages that have like asterisks in the place of letters because they're afraid of getting flagged by the people.
Have you ever had Peter McCall or Malone on or no?
No.
Would you?
Yes.
Okay.
I'm open to the conversation where you have unknown because all I know is that the places that are supposed to be getting us the answers aren't curious enough about it because there's too much political price when you go anywhere near COVID.
Well, let's go to the next story.
Next story, Vinny, I'm coming to you with this one here.
And this is Florida car chase in 2020 may be linked to Havana syndrome.
Very, very interesting story here.
And stick around because there was a whole 60 minutes done on this, which Vinny watched the whole thing.
Hang on one second.
Let me get to the story.
Here we go.
So a Florida car chase in June 2020 may have ties to enigmatic Havana syndrome with the body cam footage showing the driver reaching speeds of 110 on a Key West Highway.
Upon arrest, officer discovered suspicious items in the suspect's card, including bank account notes, a walkie-talkie-like device capable of erasing GPS data, and a Russian passport.
The suspect identified as Vitaly from St. Petersburg repeatedly professed ignorance when questioned by authorities.
The incident adds complexity to the ongoing investigation into Havana syndrome, first reported by U.S. and Canadian embassy staff in Cuba in 2016.
Despite recent NIH findings, ruling out a clear cause, the mystery surrounding the condition persists, raising questions about its origins and potential connections to directed energy attacks or other factors.
Vinny.
It's just kind of weird.
And I don't know if anybody did, Tom, did you watch the 60 Minutes?
The Havana syndrome?
Yeah, and I've read two articles all the way through.
Okay, this guy, the chef, and everything.
Okay, yeah.
So, so, so, the guy in question, Mo, this guy's speeding.
He's running away from cops.
He's going 10, 20 miles an hour.
They pull him over.
If I tell you guys, when you see it, the spy kit, like it's just a spy kit, bank records from different banks, his passports, his, and they're like, why were you going that fast?
He goes, I cannot tell you.
I don't even know what.
Like, clearly, the guy is a freaking spy.
All right.
He has this crazy backstory.
He's here as a chef, whatever.
They finally send him back because he gets in trouble for all the spy stuff.
Guess what Russia does?
Puts him on the front line in the war in Ukraine and he dies in the front.
I swear to God.
Okay, so anyway, and going back to this thing, guys, this is direct energy laser weapons that they're claiming, and it's going after anybody that's, you know, Department of Defense, all these people in government that were investigating anything with Russia.
This one lady in the documentary, she walks by a window, Mo, and she feels like a boom, like an attack.
Dude, I got goosebumps because it's crazy that I know they have this technology.
Beamed her in her ear.
Her whole, she has holes in her eardrums.
She falls on the floor.
Her husband's like, What the hell's going on?
And it kept happening to people in all these embassies.
And, you know, I mean, and think about it.
Now, this, when we talk about Russia, we're so like Russia collusion.
And this is, they're blowing this story off.
The intelligence agencies are going, nah, it's not, it's not real.
But just as an FYI for everybody, this isn't new.
In the 1960s, an electronics technician in the U.S. Embassy in Moscow found that there was mysterious radiation that was being beamed directly into the embassy.
This kicked off some secret projects.
I know you guys know I like about this type of secret stuff under the CIA.
You guys can look this up.
The top secret projects were called Project Bazaar, Project Mutts, Project Big Boy.
And they sought out to find out why U.S. embassies were being bombarded with microwave radiation and what effects it was having on the personnel and why those personnel were having a higher cancer rate than anybody else in the world.
So think about this.
We're talking about some advanced, like CIA spy type stuff where they are targeting.
This is the real Russia.
I know Adam thinks he's my best friend.
This is real Russians.
This is them using laser.
Putin.
Putin.
Well, whatever.
We're best friends.
You're Putin also.
Yeah, that's why it's my homie.
Think about this type of technology.
So now when I think, Rob, you told me this.
When Biden mentions a couple weeks ago, when he was like, Yeah, well, I think it was fires or somewhere.
He goes, They had those roofs that don't get attacked.
This is why that whole Hawaii thing they were talking about, people were seeing beams and stuff coming out of the sky, hitting things.
We have the technology.
Russia has been using this technology.
And it's kind of wild that all that Russian collusion that everybody kind of brushed off and like it made it sound like, okay, whatever.
It was all fake.
This is the real thing.
Vinny, I'm going to hit you with what PBD always says, man.
I'm born and raised in Miami.
Shout out to my Cuban friends when I think of Havana syndrome and think of something else.
Oh, yeah, me hate it down to Miami.
What's the point?
Well, the point is they are the type of attack that we're getting now.
This Havana stuff is happening right now, starting the 60s, and they're going after people that are investigating anything with Russia, like literally coming through their houses.
So what I'm saying is when other people talk about those crazy conspiracies, that there's freaking laser beams to their heads, it's actually true.
What should we be looking out for, Vinny?
So if President Biden were to say, I think Havana syndrome is affecting my ongoing would you vote for definitely no you just said this is a real thing no because because of his before his before he started getting the Havana syndrome from all the stuff from all his crime bill and all I can never vote for Great question.
You know how Peabody asked you if is there anything that Trump can do to get your vote?
You said it started with, stop attacking my family.
Hello.
Vincent, at this point, is there anything Biden can do, Havana syndrome or not, to ever get your vote?
Or is there anything that Trump could do to ever lose your life?
Hold on, let me.
Are you completely familiar with that?
Let me do this.
The Biden question.
Let me stack some papers.
Absolutely effing not.
Joe Biden.
Just off.
I'll just do one thing.
The fact that him and my orcas have a, have right now, as we speak, a wide open border.
And let's speak fact.
Young women are getting raped, murdered.
Grape.
Graped.
Well, they are.
Okay, around.
Why is you good sense?
Yo, yo, Mo, I don't give a word.
By the way, it's happening.
It's changing the dynamic of the country.
And the fact that it's not happening, it'll never happen to anybody that's close to Biden or anybody close to my orcas.
I can never, ever do that because those families are being devastated by a freaking policy.
And then guess what?
Kareen Jean-Pierre goes up and says, yeah, you know what?
She always does this.
That freaking, the worst DEI hire in the history of our country.
She's like, you know what?
The Republicans, if they just signed the bill to send $60 billion to Ukraine, we could have fixed the border.
That's her attitude.
Her attitude is the reason the border is a problem, because the bipartisan bill wasn't approved because we didn't send 60 billion to Ukraine.
F that, because I don't wish anything on anybody, but until the border starts affecting those people, like until Majorkis, Majorkis' cousin, gets raped and murdered, it's never going to change.
God forbid.
But I'll tell you what, it's going to affect them because it's going to determine the election.
Yes.
I think that's the major domestic issue.
It's not used to the economy, and now it is immigration.
It's suddenly 100%.
That's the main thing.
What are your thoughts on the story?
Anything with Havana syndrome?
Do you have any thoughts on it?
Spies have been finding nations have been finding creative ways to kill each other's spies for a long time.
And when you had the gentleman, I forget which one it was, and I don't want to mispronounce a Russian name, who was merely walking through a bar, and then he was sprayed on the back of his head and on his shoulders with polonium, which is one of the byproducts of nuclear power plants.
It's also the name of one of Vinny's cologne.
Polonium.
That's it.
Polonium.
That's right.
By Deltavadov.
That's right.
Litvinienko.
The love doesn't kill you, but cologne will.
Oh, that's him.
So that's him, Tom?
Yeah, that's exactly.
He addressed it, polonium.
Alexander Litvilnyenko.
They sprayed him and then, you know, he was so there have been creative ways to kill enemies and spies for a long time.
Are there weapons out there that they're trying to use to interfere with diplomats?
I'm sure they are.
Is this all related?
Is Havana's syndrome?
Because Havana is an isolated outpost in many ways.
Is that a place?
Maybe.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
But do I connect the dots and say, absolutely?
I'd love to see more information.
But I think once something happens, PBD, it's too easy to say, oh, it's that.
Oh, it's that.
Oh, it's that.
I want to do two California stories here with you, Tom.
New minimum wage, the $20 minimum wage for fast food workers in California set to start Monday, which is yesterday.
And I also want to ask you that question about California.
I'll get to that one as well, but let me just get to this one first.
So here we go.
So new $20 minimum wage, effective Monday, California will implement a groundbreaking law raising the minimum wage to fast food workers to $20, acknowledging the shift in a workforce from teenagers to adult supporting families.
Ingrid Valorio, a former full-time fast food worker, expressed appreciation for the raise, noting its potential to reduce the need for multiple jobs.
The $20 raise is great.
I wish this would have come sooner.
However, franchise owner like Alex Johnson are grappling with the law's impact on their business.
Johnson, who owns aunties, aunts, pretzels, and cinnamon restaurants in the Bay Area, faces annual expenses of $470,000 due.
Damn.
Wow.
Increased wages.
He anticipates raising prices by 5% to 15% and is considering selling or closing his business.
This law is really hurting our operations hard, Tom.
Well, if you go back, and Chris, you may remember this, where New York said, fast food workers are going to get raised.
I think it was only $15 an hour, and it goes back about three election cycles.
No, no, it goes back longer than that.
It goes back like four election cycles.
And do you remember what McDonald's did?
McDonald's accelerated.
And there is a company that makes software that was in the Southwest kiosk.
And anybody that knows air travel, you go back, I think it was Southwest Airlines was the first one with the self-serve kiosk.
Why they were trying to be a low-cost airline.
So they made it easy.
You would go in there and you would check in.
Boom, there, your boarding password, your number would pop out.
And so what happened in New York is the kiosk that took away jobs inside McDonald's was accelerated.
So whenever you do something like this, they just think that it's permanent.
But there is a, what did they say?
What's that?
Anyway, there's a scientific law that there's an equal and opposite reaction.
Well, whenever you mess with inventors and capitalists, there's a reaction that says, okay, how do I operate a profitable business if this is now a legal constraint?
And guess what happens?
That brings you kiosks that actually took jobs away from teenagers and people.
And when someone decides that working at the counter at McDonald's has to be a living wage job, that is a decision that is antithetical and doesn't work with the natural economics of a small fast food establishment.
And so you're seeing the reaction here.
And then you have a quote from a, of course, any good story has got two quotes in it.
One from a fast food worker says, oh, this couldn't happen fast enough.
And one from an owner that says, oh, it's the ruin of me.
But what you're going to see here, it's going to accelerate kiosk.
It's going to accelerate a lot of things because that's the way entrepreneurs react.
And by the way, Auntie Annie's and Cinnabon are both franchises.
If you don't think that they're working across the board to protect all of their franchisees' outlets, you're not paying attention.
Tell him it was Isaac Newton's law.
I'm a little disappointed as a rocket scientist's son.
You didn't know.
Newton.
Come on, bro.
I was getting annoyed and I just didn't want to misquote it.
It's all good.
But by the way, do you know how much $20 an hour is for an average worker, just to put it in simplistic terms?
That's $40,000 a year.
You're paying the guy to work the kiosk at the Cinnabon.
Yeah.
I remember my first job.
I was in high school, 15 years old.
When you were doing your Baskin Robbins, was that your first job?
Dude, you're making Haganda.
I apologize to the 82.
Yeah, I was making my first Sunday banana split guy in all of Glendale Gallery.
You were the guy.
I was the goat.
I was just people.
But tell them about your Burger King.
Your Burger King skills, PBD.
Listen, Burger King, my cashier, my boss, Eddie, said you talk too much.
You can't be a cashier.
He says, customers, they got to come and go.
You talk to them too much.
I'm like, dude, I like people.
He says, don't go be a chef.
So I was a chef with a medium shirt.
That's so funny.
Medium shirt.
I'm like this.
And everybody would see my lower back.
It's like, look at that.
But no back hair.
No back hair.
No, not this guy.
Not this guy.
Okay.
All right.
A couple other stories before we wrap up here.
By the way, Dave Rubin came here, Chris.
Dave Rubin came here and we were having a conversation.
This was a day after Daily Wire fires Candace Owens, right?
The day before.
He comes the day before Daily Wire fires Candace Owens and they go their separate ways, right?
And, you know, we have this conversation and somehow some of the conversation led to who has a bigger influence in the conservative political space.
And he made it seem like Ben Shapiro is number one above and beyond anybody else as a conservative voice and Tucker is behind him.
Who do you think has a bigger voice within a conservative voter, Tucker or Ben Shapiro?
I think Shapiro is far down the list.
Far down the list.
Yeah, I think that he is more controversial than he is influential.
He has gotten some things wrong that he shouldn't have over the years.
I don't know that Candace's situation affects him more one way or the other.
I also just don't think that he is as charismatic or as compelling as other people.
Put it this way, if I were offered to join his team or yours, I wouldn't have thought about it for a nanosecond.
Why?
Because he's about courting the converted.
And the future of independent media is about common concerns and reaching across.
It's absolutely the right space.
He's not in that space.
And getting rid of Candace, he made it clear that he doesn't want to be in that space.
So Tucker Carlson is absolutely a giant figure there.
I mean, Trump's son wants him to be the vice president.
I think that's nonsense.
But Tucker Carlson is clearly more influential.
I think Bongino is more influential.
I think Mark Levin is more influential.
Why?
Because they have more people who are absolutely going to vote listening to them.
That's what Cable is.
If you're listening to Cable, you vote.
Okay.
So, and no disrespect to Shapiro.
I think it's incredible how entrepreneurial he's been.
Good for him.
A guy who's not exactly telegenic, doesn't have the best voice, is not a commanding speaker.
He's made himself a figure.
Good for him.
More proof of best ideas win.
Good idea, bad idea for them to fire Candace Owens.
And, you know, you've been through this before in the back end where not everybody knows the whole story.
Is it, well, we don't know the whole story.
Good move, bad end.
Those two couldn't coexist.
They took a certain position with the, you know, October 7th over, you know, keeping it up.
What are your thoughts about what happened with Daily Wire and Candace Owens?
Depends on what you want to be about.
I think for Shapiro, he was in a no-win situation.
I mean, this is a devout Jewish man who absolutely believes in the Zionist agenda, and Candace Owens does not and absolutely pushes the envelope in terms of how she makes arguments in that regard.
Again, I know it's frustrating for people.
I know it's unsatisfying.
I know that we're polarized and we're stuck only seeing advantage.
And if there's no advantage to me, then it must be bad.
I believe in more voices, not less.
Does Candace say things that she shouldn't?
No.
Does she say things that are easily countered?
Yes.
Then have the conversation.
I believe in that.
I felt the same way about Rana McDaniel.
NBC lost an opportunity in that.
I would love to have Rana on set and be like, hey, true, the vote just said that they don't have any of the proof of the affidavits that you were banking on all the time about the fake votes in Georgia.
Do you accept that?
Yes, I accept it.
Okay.
So we can put that to bed.
There aren't all these affidavits out there that say that there are fake votes.
You understand that?
Yes, I don't think that's true.
But I do think now people who are Trumpers like her, even though he's not crazy about her right now, but that can change any second, they've had an opportunity to listen to one of their own say something that they can now process.
That is a very valuable opportunity.
NBC blew it because they want to preach to the converted.
Ben Shapiro made his own decision because it affects his faith, probably.
But I do not believe in limiting voices.
I think it's a mistake.
Got it.
Interesting.
I wanted to kind of get your take on this.
And last but not least, let's wrap it up with this.
Donald Trump Jr. says he's lobbying his father to pick a fighter like Tucker Carlson or Vivek to be his running mate.
Okay.
So what I want in that role, Jr. says, is I want a fighter, he told New York Post.
I understand what they're going to throw at us.
The vicious nature of the swamp and the insanity we see on a daily basis.
You need someone who can take those hits.
Junior said he has been pushing candidates like JD Vance and former presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, right-wing Fox TV host Tucker Carlson.
Trump Jr. filmed answering reporters' questions in a video published by New York Post said he would love to see Tucker Carlson go up against Kamala Harris.
That would be fun.
Do you agree with him?
One, contextually, I don't think his father is taking his recommendations.
I don't talk about the kids out of respect for the family, even though they're all adults.
But Ramaswamy is a fighter.
There's no question about that.
Totally more combative than Tucker Carlson is, certainly.
But neither of them are even close to the realm of possibility.
I believe the best choice for Donald Trump is Nikki Haley.
I really do.
And I know that that is people on the left don't like me saying that.
Trumpers don't like me saying that.
But she absolutely helps him with a slice of women that he has to be worried about.
And it would also show his ability to reach across.
She would not scare people away in that party as to being competent.
God forbid something happens to the president.
It would absolutely give him an advantage over Biden because Biden has a VP candidate that people do not want to be president.
So I thought that it made sense just from a healing component.
I know he doesn't like her, but so what?
He's completely transactional.
I got a question.
I got two questions for you.
Okay, so let's strategy.
So announcement is made.
President Donald Trump announces his VP choice.
It's Nikki Haley.
Okay.
One.
The left loses their minds.
The establishment says, okay, now that we know he chose Trump, Wall Street Jamie Dimon would consider it.
Griffin is in.
This guy's in.
The establishment money now comes towards Trump.
Okay.
That's one.
Two.
Donald Trump announces his vice president pick, it's Nikki Haley, MAGA.
Oh, hell no.
She is establishment.
She is, there's no way in the world.
Okay.
Which is going to be more dangerous and more coming with consequences?
Is there more benefit for doing it or is it more const for doing it?
I think it's easy on the benefit side because who's not going to vote for Trump who's a Trumper?
Right.
He's not losing anybody.
And as soon as he says, by the way, Nikki Haley, I don't like some of the things she said, but at least she had the balls to say it.
And she's okay with me.
I think 80% of it goes away there.
And if you're a Trumper, you're a Trumper.
And he needs help with women and independent voters.
Okay, follow up.
Nikki Haley.
Who's better than her, by the way?
Tulsi Gabbard.
What do you think about Tulsi?
I've always been very impressed by Tulsi Gabbard.
How do Trumpers feel about a Democrat leaving and joining?
Maybe they've already crossed that bridge with Tulsi.
I would give the appraisal this way.
I think Nikki Haley gives Tulsi Gabbard all she can handle in a heads-up competition.
No disrespect to Tulsi Gabbard.
I enjoy talking to her and I enjoy her process.
Whether or not you agree is, again, a third level concern for me.
But I think Nikki Haley is absolutely can go toe-to-toe with her.
Okay.
So what does Nikki have that Tulsi doesn't have?
Legitimacy.
From what standpoint?
Of all of the electability quotients.
She's been in a primary.
She beat an entire field.
She was going toe-to-toe with Trump.
She showed she could raise the money.
She showed she could deal with the media.
I mean, she's been tested.
She was a governor.
Well, positions aside, yeah, a governor and an ambassador.
She's been part of Trump's administration, but she's been through the crucible.
Okay, so now if you're a representative, if you're the campaign manager, let's just say you're selling Tulsi.
How do you sell Tulsi against Nikki?
What's Tulsi's at?
Disruption.
Disruption.
And we're Team Trump.
We're all about disruption.
Who's more of a Democrat, Nikki Haley or Tulsi Gabbard?
I don't even know what it means to be a Democrat anymore because they don't talk policies.
I think that Tulsi Gabbard has a lot of domestic policies that are still traditionally Democratic policies.
Foreign policy and the origination of how to use power in government is where she differs.
Nikki Haley does not really hold anything that's even close to center left, let alone left in terms of social policy.
I think both of them are anti-reproductive rights, though.
I think they're both in line with the change that was made in the law.
But Nikki's big, I mean, besides the apology, like she's been talking trash about him for the whole year.
What, two years, a year and a half?
That, and on top of the fact that she is legitimately a war hawk, every debate that we went to, it was, let's bomb Russia, let's go fight with Iran.
You know what?
While we're at it, just fighting.
Let's just bomb the show, everybody.
Trump is the only one that hasn't started a war.
I don't see how that would play out where somebody wants to fight and the president.
Shut up.
You think so?
Yeah.
When's the last time you heard of a vice president other than Biden saying what he said about gay marriage?
Yeah, that's pretty wild.
I mean, shut up.
I understand why Trump would want to fight her in there.
But if you just look at trying to win this election, the reason that they lost the midterms in 2022 was one issue, women's rights.
I just was at model volleyball this week, bunch of footage coming out.
I asked every girl out there, what is your number one issue?
Women's rights, abortion, reproductive rights.
So if you're trying to move the movable middle, trying to move the independents, trying to move the women, you need a female candidate.
That's why at the top of the list, if you can scroll down, Rob, I've said it before.
I've said it for the last six months.
The number one person on the list is still Christy Noam.
So Tulsi Gabbard's in the mix.
Sure, Nikki Haley's in the mix.
Elise Stephanie's in the mix.
I think Vivek would be the best at whatever you put him at.
Treasury, commerce, and whatever.
And then Dave Tucker's building out his network.
It's going to be a female.
And in this day, Vivek Ramaswamy, think about it.
He's brown.
He's down.
And guess what he could do?
All he has to do.
Brown and his body.
He's brown and he's down.
Guess what?
And he's down the clown.
And in this climate, all he has to do is say, you know what?
I identify as a woman.
He'll be the first.
Wait, one.
Are you going to laugh and tell him it's transgender visibility?
Like, he could come out as a woman.
Rob, don't laugh.
This is serious.
All right.
Not on Easter.
All he has to do is say, I'm a woman.
I'm a woman.
And I'm brown and I'm down.
Let's go.
I see you, Vinny.
Look at the VP right here.
Christy Noam, four and a half.
Tim Scott, five to one.
Elise Stefanik, she's a beast.
Eight to one.
Tulsi Gabbard, beast.
Vivek, beast.
Nikki, sixth place.
Carson's there.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
Beast.
Bill O'Reilly says it must be Sanders.
Really?
What do you mean?
He says that Sanders is the only one that checks all the boxes necessary to be his running bait.
I disagree with the analysis because I think you're not giving enough influence to Trump saying, this is who I want.
I think that that's two F's about who Mike Pence was in 2016.
By the way, did we all just slip up to Adam?
Look who's the, like, I don't know if you guys just, look who's number three in the Vegas odds.
Nobody's really talking about that.
Michelle Obama is still third.
If God forbid something happens to Joseph, Vinny, that's a boogeyman.
Vinny, this is where I'm going to just remind you to use your memory and math.
Yeah.
She was 9-1 about two months ago.
Now she's 14 to 1.
Gavin was 20 to 1.
The fact that they have done.
More likely than RFK.
RFK.
That's what I'm saying.
She hasn't even announced that.
By the way, that's been the same thing for months.
But what you're missing is Joe Biden's numbers are deadly close to Trump these days.
They were very separated about a month ago.
Oh, yeah.
So it's a two-headed monster race at this point.
Your Michelle Obama theory.
Oh, yeah.
That's why Bobby's so important.
Yes.
That's why right now, Bobby, if it, not right now, if he can get on enough state ballots, and that's a big if.
He keeps shutting me down every time I ask him, saying it's not an if, it's a when.
I'll definitely be on.
I just don't understand how that happens.
It's really hard.
It's one of the best, best aspects of the poison political system is what the party's due to you to do.
You can't get on the ballots.
How did Ross Perot do it?
They bury you.
How does the Green Party do it?
He had a ton of people.
How does the Libertarian Party do it?
Those are parties with infrastructure that work on it over the course of cycles.
Okay.
They contest you every set of signatures.
So you need 100,000 signatures.
They'll want you to prove every one of those 100,000 people.
That's very expensive and time-centric.
So here's what I want to do.
If you're watching, is do you agree with Chris's assessment on Nikki Haley?
Do you?
Do you have some concerns that maybe he's not paying attention to and he's got some blind spots?
Why don't you manect him?
Please do.
Ask him the question on just bring up his Manek.
Send him a Manek right there.
By the way, Chris responds very quickly and he may even send you a video or an audio, depending on whatever you pay for, to give his perspective on Nikki Haley.
And maybe you give your argument and say, I don't think so because of XYZ or anything else that was discussed.
And if he can go to the other Manek that rob with everybody else, you got Vinny, Adam, Tom.
Anybody else here that you want to ask a question on Manek, download the app, start Manecting today.
Last thing I want to do is, Adam, you had this model volleyball thing that was taking place sponsored it, right?
This last with a lot of girls that go on dates with Uber.
So you were interviewing, you were interviewing what you were interviewing.
From the top to my eye.
Can you tell me which one it was?
But which one is it?
Which one's the one that's the shotgun?
So this was on Easter.
Yeah.
Trans Visibility Day.
Yes.
Asking all the models, hey, which one are you celebrating today?
And I've interviewed a lot of models.
This was by far and away the most shocking one.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Oh, we all see them.
And I am supportive.
Okay.
What are you celebrating this year, Easter or Transgender Day of Visibility?
I'm celebrating both because I'm both Christian and transgender.
And what?
Senior transgender.
You're transgender?
Beautiful girl.
What do you mean?
Thanks.
You were born a man?
I was born a child with a male body, yes.
And then I transitioned later on.
I bet that guy.
Shush.
You're giving me zero.
It's almost like it doesn't matter.
What do trans people really look like?
There's tons of us that you don't use.
I like you, sweetheart.
Carmen, hold on.
Let's back up a second here.
You were born with male body parts.
Yes.
Boy, this is blowing your mind.
Blowing my mind.
Yeah.
I see you.
So, walk us through your transition.
Well, I don't know.
What do you mean?
Like, I'm literally daring right now.
I still have my Venus.
It's not still here.
You want to know what I'm saying?
Can you please comment?
Listen to this part.
Just listen to this part right here.
I hooked up with that guy.
Not everything, but I'm not going to talk about it.
Just walk us through the transition.
Yeah, so I transitioned when I was 25 years old.
I mean, I, I don't know, I became a model at 26.
I was the first trans model at Elite Models New York.
I was photographed by Stephen Meisel twice.
I mean, I've done a lot of great things.
Yeah.
Wow.
I'm also like an advocate.
I do like trans outreach.
I try to inspire the girls to like own who they are and like not be afraid.
Don't hide it from anyone.
There's no need to trick nobody.
People are going to want to fuck you regardless.
Like it's not that serious.
Well, let me tell you something.
We interviewed 100 plus models, all gorgeous.
And even the team, the production team, all the guys, when she walked in, they were like, oh, we got a bad one.
We got a even Malik, who's listening right now, he's like, I'd still do it.
But you know what?
It was insane.
I got a girlfriend.
But how was this?
But let's be honest.
Talking about this model.
At 25 years old, he decided to get a lot of people.
By the way, kudos.
I don't know.
Did she mention that when she hooks up with dude?
Like, dude, she lets them know, like, listen, she said, how about this?
How about this?
Because I asked some question to all the models.
Would you rather date a hardcore MAGA conservative Trump guy or a progressive liberal, you know, Bernie bro?
And made them answer the question.
She goes, oh, my boyfriend is like the biggest Trump supporter, MAGA guy ever.
She said that.
I go, what?
But you know, I respect.
Somebody's like, the point is, her boyfriend is the biggest.
What ethnicity is Carmen?
Latina?
She's Latina.
Guess what?
Shout out to, when it comes to transgenders, I give them, because look at what he, she, look at that.
White guys are the laziest.
They just put on a wig and they go, it's ma'am.
Your balls are showing, Jonathan.
Like, at least, look at this.
Like, she fooled all of you.
By the way, shout out to Tony in the back recruiting.
Yeah.
Also, very key thing she said in her description of her process.
She was 25 years old.
Thank you.
She was 25 years old.
I was 15, not 12.
My experience in talking to adult transgender people, they talk about the requirement of time and of processing who you are before you decide to make any decision.
I can't disagree with that.
I cannot disagree with that because that's a very good observation there, Chris, on the fact that the decision was made while he was 25 and then he wanted to be, you know, transition into whatever it is now, but it was made when he was 25 years old.
That's different.
That's a different seven.
Yep, very different than it is at seven.
Thank you for letting me share this.
We're discussing this and all this epic content today at four o'clock on the South Castle.
All right, here we go.
Gang, we did three hours today.
This is great.
I have to be so bad, but I held it because I'm a man.
We covered a lot of different stories.
Allegedly.
And we cover a lot of different stories.
And we're going to also put Rob, put the link to Cuomo's project podcast below as well for people that want to see more stuff.