PBD - Patrick Bet-David - "Suga" Sean O'Malley Responds To Ryan Garcia's UFC Challenge | PBD Podcast

March 4, 2024 - PBD - Patrick Bet-David

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"Suga" Sean O'Malley Responds To Ryan Garcia's UFC Challenge | PBD Podcast | Ep. 374

Patrick Bet-David and Vincent Oshana are joined by UFC Fighter "Suga" Sean O'Malley as they discuss Ryan Garcia challenging Sean to an MMA fight, if Sean could beat Conor McGregor in his prime, and why Sean went to Mexico to get stem cells for his "gank." Sean O'Malley is an American professional mixed martial artist. He currently competes in the Bantamweight division in the Ultimate Fighting Championship, where he is the current UFC Bantamweight Champion. As of February 20, 2024, he is #8 in the UFC men's pound-for-pound rankings. 3:38 - How Sean got into mixed martial arts. 6:23 - Sean explains who he was in high school. 7:11 - Sean explains why he quit social media leading up to his fight against Chito Vero. 11:07 - Sean explains his training regiment while in camp preparing for a fight. 13:21 - Sean discusses his loss to Chito Vera in 2020. 17:45 - Sean predicts the outcome of his fight against Chito Vera at UFC 299. 22:06 - Sean explains who the toughest opponent he's ever faced. 29:37 - Sean talks about his comparisons against Conor McGregor. 33:17 - Sean responds to being challenged to an MMA fight against Ryan Garcia. 39:07 - Who would win in an MMA fight - Conor McGregor or Sean O'Malley. 47:37 - Sean talks about meeting Donald Trump, who would win in an MMA fight - Donald Trump vs Joe Biden. 53:46 - Sean discusses when he first made real money from MMA. 56:47 - Sean explains his relationship with his parents and siblings. 1:03:59 - Sean explains why boxing is boring. 1:08:41 - Sean on the difference between boxing and MMA bookings. 1:11:52 - Sean explains how to choose a camp to prepare for a fight. 1:26:16 - What feedback Sean O'Malley would give Ryan Garcia. 1:31:58 - Who has the bigger gang: Oscar de La Hoya or Dana White. 1:35:32 - Sean O'Malley on getting stem cells in his penis in Mexico. 1:43:18 - Sean explains how he got injured from eating junk food. Subscribe to Sean O'Malley's YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/3V0hLSY Follow Sean O'Malley on Instagram: https://bit.ly/49zjGm7 Follow Sean O'Malley on X: https://bit.ly/4c1iNnN Connect one-on-one with the right expert to get the answers you need with Minnect: https://bit.ly/3MC9IXE Connect with Patrick on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3OoiGIC Connect with Vincent on Minnect: https://bit.ly/47TFCXq Purchase Patrick's new book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": https://bit.ly/41bTtGD Register to win a Valuetainment Boss Set (valued at over $350): https://bit.ly/41PrSLW Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafz Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/472R3Mz Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0 Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! Get PBD's Intro Song "Sweet Victory" by R-Mean: https://bit.ly/3T6HPdY SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @vtsoscast @ValuetainmentComedy @bizdocpodcast @theunusualsuspectspodcast Want to be clear on your next 5 business moves? https://bit.ly/3Qzrj3m Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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	Value taming, giving values contagious.
	This world of entrepreneurs, we can't no value to hate it.
	I'd be running, homie, look what I become.
	I'm the one.
	Smart people, I heard.
	Yeah, listen, we've figured something out today on the podcast, folks.
	If you're listening to this, it's been scientific.
	It's proven, and two of us are validating it today.
	Good people and smart people are born in October.
	Don't let anybody else confuse you.
	This is proven study done from all the best universities in the world.
	And today, we have an October baby, not just any October baby.
	We have a special October baby today who is nothing about the way he fights.
	You're able to use the word baby with.
	You can use the word sugar with because it's sweet to watch him fight.
	Yep.
	I know I got the nickname.
	I know.
	Your coaches gave you that name because they said it's sweet to watch you fight.
	Yeah.
	And number one, he's got a big fight coming up this Saturday with Vera and excited about that.
	I think we're going to the fight with 35 Deep.
	We're going to go there because we want to watch you fight.
	Yeah, we want to see what you're going to be doing.
	We're excited about it.
	But there's a lot to be talked about because there's guys that are good fighters, but they're not good marketers, right?
	There's guys that are good marketers, but they're not good fighters.
	Every once in a while, if you can find the two together, you understand marketing.
	You're a great storyteller.
	You're a good shit talker.
	And you can deliver.
	Now you got something that can turn into a very face of a league, face of a sport type of a thing.
	And a lot of people, including myself, see you as someone like that.
	You even said 2024.
	You said 23 was your year, but you said 2024.
	I don't know which interview was.
	You said 2024 is going to be the year where I'm going to get to the counter type of level.
	I don't know what interview was this, but you said this.
	And anyways, having said that, it's great to have you on the podcast.
	This is the coolest podcast setup I've ever been on.
	Beautiful.
	Yeah, Serious said it's so badass.
	I appreciate you.
	I appreciate you.
	And again, we've been looking forward to this for a minute.
	There's a few things.
	So, Rob, can you do me a favor?
	When I saw what city you grew up in, Helena, Montana, right?
	First thing I did, I said, okay, what is the profile of a fighter, right?
	Typically, when someone becomes a fighter, they either had a bad relationship with their dad, okay, where it's kind of like, you know, you're not going to let anybody do what your dad did to you.
	You either were raised being bullied, you were raised around gangsters, you're a natural athlete.
	Like there's a lot of guys that are great fighters that are great athletes.
	And then I went and I typed in gangs in Helena, Montana.
	Okay.
	By the way, he hasn't seen this.
	I showed it to Rob.
	The grazer.
	When I typed in gangs in Helena, California, the first story that popped up was this.
	Can you click on this, Rob?
	So it comes up.
	Street gangs in Helena.
	So zoom in a little bit so I can read it.
	And this is an 09.
	This is way before, you know, the world knows who Sugar Sean O'Malley is.
	It's gang like these that the people of Helena have to put up with a bit different from the problems in other cities.
	It proves that every state has their own unique gang problems.
	They roam the streets, yard nights, yards night, and they, and they hang out even in the best neighborhoods, and you cannot legally shoot them.
	Can you show these gangsters, please?
	What the fuck again?
	I was wondering where that was going.
	By the way, I had no idea what this article was going to be.
	I said I had to show it.
	So from Helena, Montana, you served at the Air Force.
	I was in Great Paul's Montana for five years.
	How do you go from that?
	I know you wanted to be an NFL player.
	That was your dream.
	You wanted to go into NFL.
	I still do.
	And then you go into fighting.
	How did that happen?
	Yeah, so I grew up playing sports, baseball, basketball, soccer, and then, you know, football all year round.
	Every season, I was in a different sport since I was probably four years old.
	You know, I got, I turned 16, going into high school, super insecure kid like we all are going into high school.
	And I didn't have the best grades, hated school.
	I hated school from like elementary school.
	I knew I wasn't going to college when I was like, I was like, you don't have to, you don't have to go to college.
	You like any of the subjects?
	No, I hated it all.
	Okay.
	I didn't even like gym because I was sweat and I wanted to talk to chick.
	So I didn't even like gym, but I was, I like, you know, sports.
	But so I hated school.
	16 years old, didn't really get the best grades.
	That was an issue to play school sports.
	And I thought, you know, I'm going to start, I'm going to try kickboxing.
	I'm going to start boxing and maybe I can get some chicks, maybe get some confidence.
	And it was a, I could compete without having to get good grades.
	It was not school related.
	Started boxing naturally, was like pretty good at hitting mitts.
	And for the most part, all we did was spar and I was like doing good.
	I'd switch stances, kind of had my own style.
	Didn't really learn how to stand orthodox, throw a jab, throw a right hand, throw a left hook.
	I just kind of would go in there and, you know, be an athlete.
	And I was doing really good.
	I had my first, you know, kickboxing fight when I was 16.
	I think I had four kickboxing fights, four boxing fights from 16 to 17.
	Started MMA when I was 18.
	And I knew I was like, looking back, I don't really remember exactly what age where I decided, like, okay, this is it, 100%.
	But I moved to Phoenix when I was 19 years old to train because in Montana, there's no gyms.
	You can really make it to the next level.
	I feel like I got a lot of experience being from Montana because I was able to fight so much.
	It was easy to find fights there.
	There was no commission.
	So we were, I fought three times in a month at one point.
	And there was just a lot of people willing to fight.
	Not skilled fighters, but just people willing to fight.
	Got a lot of experience in Montana.
	So I think that was a huge part of my confidence because I was knocking people out at an early age.
	16 years old.
	I'm knocking grown men out.
	17 years old, knocking grown men out.
	And so I just believed I had this power.
	When did you learn about this?
	16.
	Just first fights.
	I was dropping people.
	Street or like organized.
	Yeah, organized, organized.
	So Sean, in school, there was no like bullying, nobody messing with you.
	It was pretty straightforward.
	Yeah, not really.
	I was insecure, like going and going to school, but I never really got bullied or picked on.
	It was mostly just like, I wanted to compete, wanted to keep doing sports, but I just hated school.
	Who were you in high school?
	Were you like the cool cat?
	People knew what they liked?
	No, I was kind of jealous of the jocks because I love sports, but I also didn't get along with those guys.
	Like I didn't, we didn't, it wasn't like a it just, I just didn't get along with those guys.
	I didn't really get along with the skateboarders or the stoners.
	I feel like it was just me and a couple of buddies who just had our own little clique.
	And we didn't have beef with anybody.
	We kind of got along with everyone, but we didn't hang out with many people in ourselves.
	How many of those guys now message you or DM you or text you and say, hey, Sean, remember me from ninth grade?
	Have you gotten any of those messages or no?
	Yeah, yeah.
	My buddy Cody Webster and Elias Moore is like two of the kids that I hung out with the most.
	And it was, I don't talk to them often, but I still keep in touch with them.
	How about the other guys?
	The jocks, the guys that were the athletes.
	Oh, they don't.
	I don't really talk to.
	I'm hard to get to now.
	Like, I don't have Instagram, Twitter on my phone.
	I have someone else kind of look at that for me.
	I actually recently did that going into this camp.
	I feel like it changed my life, to be honest.
	Respect.
	Just like the anxiety.
	Not that I had bad anxiety, but you just had this level of anxiety from surfing on your phone, checking Instagram, looking at things that I deleted that.
	That can be a whole nother topic.
	But I felt, so I'm harder to get to.
	So I'm not, I changed my number multiple times since I've moved.
	So, you know, everything gets filtered out for the most part.
	But people hit up my family, hit up my brothers, and they're like, hey, tell Sean, I said, you know, good luck and stuff like that.
	What prompted that?
	What prompted going on a diet with social?
	It's just, you can just feel it.
	Like, I mean, there was, well, I guess the biggest part is I have a three-year-old daughter.
	And it's like, I'd be outside pushing her on the swing, kind of surfing through Instagram.
	Like, what am I like?
	Just catching myself in that.
	Like, what am I doing?
	She's growing up so fast.
	And I'm here pushing her on a swing while I'm kind of surfing.
	And I'm like, I'm going to put a timer on it.
	And you put a timer on it, timer pops up.
	You put your password in, timer's gone.
	You keep surfing.
	Like, that didn't work.
	I'm going to completely get rid of it off my phone.
	And I have my assistant that I can still make posts.
	I still can check stuff when I need to.
	I can still make sure I get business stuff done because that's where I make a lot of my money is through social media.
	So I don't hate it.
	I just needed to limit it.
	And I wasn't disciplined enough to just put a timer on.
	I'm like, I got to get this shit off my phone.
	Dude, it's not easy to do.
	Good for you because especially if your business is social, like there's people like you know, you know who's typically not on social media?
	Hollywood actors.
	Have you noticed this?
	Like a lot of big Hollywood name actors are now don't think Dwayne and social media.
	No, no, no.
	That guy's a button.
	By the way, you know who just got on Instagram last week?
	Charles Barkley.
	Shut up.
	He just got on Instagram.
	Did you know that?
	No.
	He literally just got on Instagram.
	Barkley.
	First time ever he got on Instagram.
	And then I don't know if you guys saw this clip.
	If you can type in Rob, type in Barkley, type in Shaq, type in OnlyFans.
	This is how much Charles knows about all this stuff.
	So if you can, it's a short clip.
	If you can go to it, it's hilarious.
	Where, is that the one?
	Let me see.
	Is this the one?
	Yeah, yeah, this is the one.
	This is the one.
	Okay, rewind.
	Put it from the beginning and play.
	Yeah, go ahead and play this.
	Watch this.
	And every time you send out a picture of you, you got a hashtag OnlyFans.
	Watch his reaction.
	He doesn't know what he means.
	You know what?
	OnlyFans is not a bad thing.
	Whatever picture you send out, just hashtag OnlyFans.
	So for OnlyFans of ours?
	No, no, no, no.
	Oh, God.
	There is.
	He's covering his face.
	OnlyFans.
	I'm not even explaining this so bad.
	I'm not even aware of that.
	Shaq's.
	OnlyFans.
	Just hashtag Charles Barkley backslash OnlyFans.
	No, that's a site that you just got to do.
	Look at this.
	You can tell innocently he doesn't know.
	But there is a form of liberation of not being on it.
	You know who used to do that when he would go into the playoffs?
	LeBron James.
	I believe it.
	Yeah, LeBron James, the moment playoffs would start, off, zero social media.
	He wouldn't tweet.
	He wouldn't do anything.
	At least this is the image he would give until playoffs was done with or they lose because most often he would lose or the whole thing is done with.
	That's what he would do.
	But I think it's a good move.
	Yeah, I think so too, especially with so many kids nowadays dealing with anxiety and depression.
	It's like it probably comes from a lot of their parents just surfing and being on their phones and they're just passing down the anxiety to their kids.
	And all these kids have issues now in middle school and high school.
	And it's just, it's a tornado.
	I mean, social media is not the worst thing ever, but you just have to have a level of discipline to be able to be on it.
	And I mean, even I feel like I'm a very disciplined routine person, but I was like, I couldn't, I had to delete it off my phone, at least for a little bit.
	Like it's been when's the last time you posted something?
	Me personally?
	A couple days ago because I travel with my assistant.
	So if I need to post something, because I have brand deals that I have to, you know, deliverables, I need to post, boom, boom, boom, post and ghost, and that's it.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Well, good for you to have that kind of discipline.
	Is that if somebody's on the inside and they watch you, are you a hardcore routine guy?
	Because I know you talk a lot about sleep.
	You talk about what you intake.
	You talk about how drinking coffee is eight hours.
	You can have one, but you have an eight.
	Have you always been this detailed?
	No, I started getting, I pick up good healthy habits and routines each fight camp more and more and more.
	When I'm dialed in for fight camp, I like to do 12 weeks, about three months of just, I'm pretty disciplined outside of fight camp, but when I'm in camp, everything's to a T, like sleep, what I'm eating, the caffeine intake.
	I usually do that out of camp too because I don't like messing with my sleep.
	But yeah, I would say it all stemmed from wanting to be the greatest fighter of all time.
	That's where it's like, okay, I need to do, I need to go above and beyond.
	I do need to do the little things that are going to help me get a little bit better.
	That's going to make me stand out a little bit more.
	And I feel like it's, you know, been a huge role in my career is doing those little healthy habits.
	Did you say the greatest fighter of all time?
	I mean, I would love.
	I'm not too set on like legacy and like, because, you know, once we're dead, we're dead.
	I'm not really worried about that.
	But it'd be cool.
	I mean, I'm in a position to where I can be.
	Like, I just knocked out the greatest bantamate of all time.
	I'm about to defend my title live on pay-per-view, UFC 299.
	And, you know, I got big, big fight, big options next.
	So I like to have options.
	But I do think when it's all said and done, I could be considered one of the greatest of all time if the career plays out how I think it's going to play out.
	And it's played out so far, how I thought it was going to play out.
	So who do you have right now as the greatest?
	Like, if you're speaking that language, I've interviewed a lot of guys, and you can tell when somebody speaks that language and somebody doesn't.
	It's a big difference, right?
	When you talk to Kobe, Kobe speaks that language.
	And he knew that from early on when he's ranked the 56th best high school player in the world.
	He's like one by one by one by one by one until he became the best.
	And he goes into the end.
	But he knew everybody's stats almost like a historian.
	Is that kind of who you are?
	And if yes, you know, who inspired you to think and have this mindset?
	Or is it just your DNA?
	I'm not like that as far as stats and stuff like that.
	But the greatest of all time, it'd be hard to argue against John Jones or Habib.
	He went 30-0.
	And then if you want to talk even boxing, Floyd, I think when he was 50-0, never lost.
	Like, that's legendary.
	Never losing is hard to do.
	John Jones is in that same boat.
	He had that weird fight, but I mean, everyone considers it.
	Yeah, never lost.
	Habib never lost.
	Floyd never lost.
	So, you know, I'd like to be in that category.
	I got a little couple of weird things on my record, but I don't really count that shit.
	And then after Saturday, I don't think a lot of people are going to count that.
	Well, I mean, if you can unpack that, because I know what you're talking about, the weird thing.
	You're talking to Joe and you're like, I don't feel like I lost.
	And Joe's like, but he did.
	He's like, no, but there's a, what was it called?
	Perennial nerve.
	Yeah, I got dropped foot.
	Perennial nerve.
	He did kick me.
	I'm not arguing that.
	I got kicked by him.
	He threw the kick.
	It hit my nerve.
	My foot went numb.
	I had these ankle wraps on.
	They were way too tight.
	Sometimes that nerve comes back and you're able to, my nerve did not come back.
	I rolled my ankle like seven, eight times.
	And, you know, the rest is history.
	But mentally, I didn't feel like I lost to that guy.
	I didn't feel like his skills were better than me.
	And that was three and a half years ago.
	And now I'm defending the title against that same guy.
	So, you know, we get to see who is right and who is wrong.
	The reason I say it like that is just because how many thousands of kicks have been thrown since then and how many times has that happened?
	That same nerve, that same spot.
	It's a very rare thing.
	So I always call that, you know, a fluke and blah, blah, blah.
	Is it psychological?
	Like, is it, you know, like, for example, I'll talk to a group and they'll say, well, let me tell you, you know what?
	Like, I remember one time I came to one of my Florida offices, plantation, and all the guys in this office were like, I said, why is everybody late?
	30 minutes people are late.
	Why are people coming in so late?
	Does this, because none of our offices are people in your office, everybody's late?
	And they said, it's a Florida thing.
	Pat, you don't know it's a Florida thing.
	This is not a Florida thing.
	Standards are standards no matter where you go.
	So don't try to convince me that that's a normal.
	That's your normal.
	It ain't my normal.
	So how much of it is like you don't want to accept that yourself to allow that little possibility of questioning yourself in?
	None.
	I think if I were to go out there and lose that fight and he just beat me skill for skill, I just lost that fight.
	I don't think it would really bother me.
	This doesn't really bother me either.
	It's just, that's just how I truly feel.
	Like, it's not because I'm trying to keep this level of undefeated.
	Like, I can beat no one can beat me.
	It's not that at all.
	It's just the way it played out.
	It just doesn't feel like I got outskilled.
	And if you watch the fight, you know, most people kind of see it.
	You know, he was about to be on my highlight reel sooner than later.
	But, you know.
	Yeah.
	And let's not forget.
	I mean, that fight, Rob, can you, was it in August of 2020?
	I think it was August of 2020, right?
	Like the fight was almost at a, this is like the worst time of COVID.
	This is when we thought zombies are coming out, right?
	This is when you were like.
	There was like five people and there was no audience.
	You just heard every step.
	Every step.
	Yeah, it was.
	I fought in the Apex three times.
	I fought in that same arena, that small cave, which is super weird in the UFC.
	You have a small cage and a big cage.
	It's like in that, you know, playing half court at an NBA game sometimes.
	It's a weird, weird cage.
	Yeah, is it a big adjustment when you're fighting in that versus?
	It's way different.
	Because you're in front of each other.
	It's like playing half court football or basketball.
	That makes sense.
	It's like playing, it's half the size for the most part.
	I think it's like 44% smaller.
	Who does that benefit in a fight?
	I think it would benefit wrestlers, grapplers, guys that want to get a hold of you.
	I love the big cage.
	That's when I fought Al Joe in Boston, Big Cage.
	My main goal, do not let this motherfucker grab me.
	Make him make a mistake, make him overcommit, take his head off.
	You know, pretty much what I did.
	But yeah, it's, you know.
	So, Sean, any, since you're fighting Vera again, any, and it's been one, almost four years, any adjustments?
	Like, is your training, is your camp, are you basically taking that same route?
	I mean, you've obviously grown to be a better fighter.
	Anything different?
	Because, I mean, you're fighting the same guy.
	Does anything change?
	You know, if it's not broke, don't fix it.
	I feel like other than that fight, I've never lost a fight.
	Everything I'm doing is, you know, it's working.
	So I'm going to continue to do what we're doing.
	Each guy, you know, we fight Al Joe.
	We bring in guys like Alger.
	We fight Cheeto.
	We fight, you know, spar guys like Cheeto.
	It's like, you just kind of have your sparring partners try to emulate the guys you're fighting and do the same shit because it's been working.
	Mentally, is anything like on your mind that the last time you faced this guy or zero?
	You're like, nope, just going to take it as another fight that I'm going into.
	Yeah, 100%.
	Just another guy, just another fight, just another Saturday.
	Do you have a said prediction where you think is going to happen?
	The thing about Cheeto is he's very, very durable.
	I think he's got 20-plus UFC fights, never been dropped, never been knocked out, never been submitted.
	All of his losses have went to a decision.
	Very tough guy, very durable.
	He's got good cardio.
	He's a very dangerous opponent.
	I know, a dangerous opponent.
	I know you said I'm a pretty heavy favorite, which, I mean, I agree, can't deny that, but it's a very, very tough fight.
	This is not an easy fight by any means.
	With that being said, neither was Al Joe.
	Alger was not a, I think, in my opinion, Algeria was the toughest fight in the division for me.
	And I went out there and knocked him out in two rounds.
	So I do have this confidence that I could put Cheeto's lights out or win a decision.
	But it's not an easy fight by any means.
	Sean, what's Vera's biggest strength fighting-wise?
	Besides cardio and stuff like that, what's his go-to thing?
	Durability.
	He just laughs.
	He's obviously skilled.
	You don't get to where we're at not being skilled.
	But durability is a real thing.
	People can get tired beating you up.
	Like Nick and Nate Diaz made a career out of that.
	You get tired of beating someone up and then you kind of take over and put it on him.
	So I'd say that.
	Got it.
	Because Diaz brothers, you watch those guys fight.
	You're like, he's done.
	No, he's just getting started.
	Like another round.
	And another one.
	And then all of a sudden he wins.
	What round was it when he beat Conor Diaz?
	It was only in the third, I think.
	Third round when you beat him?
	Yeah.
	And then the next fight when Connor came back, he adjusted.
	Is there anything you're doing?
	Because if you remember when the first time they had the fight, Connor Diaz would go down and he would almost welcome him and Connor would go and then he got caught.
	But the next time they fought, every time he would drop, because he dropped him two or three times, he just would stay up.
	He says, nope, nope, I'm coming.
	I'm now coming down to fight your fight.
	anything you're adjusting with Vera?
	Not really.
	Our fight was like two minutes.
	Didn't play out very long.
	And I felt like what I was doing was working.
	Obviously, I got to address the leg kicks.
	That's where he kicked my nerve.
	But that's with every single fight.
	It's like dealing with someone's jab, dealing with someone's right hand, dealing with someone's wrestling, dealing with someone's leg kicks.
	It's like, I got to, you know, take care of that with everybody I fight.
	But even that all played out.
	2020, three and a half years ago.
	It's like I went on a tear after that fight.
	That was, you know, I look at that as a blessing in disguise.
	Because say I go out there and beat Cheeto, it's like, then I get rushed to the top too fast.
	And my career might not play out the way it's played out.
	So I look at that fight as a blessing in disguise.
	I had one of my best performances ever, one of the sweetest knockouts of Thomas Almeida, where I dropped him like three times.
	He's laying on his back.
	I died.
	Oh, that was insane.
	That's a beautiful way.
	Yeah, that fight doesn't happen if I don't, if that, what happened in that fight didn't play out that way it did.
	So I've never looked at it and like, God, that just drives me crazy.
	It really, really doesn't.
	Because I was able to have such sweet performances after.
	That's the fight where you knocked him out twice, right?
	It's like everyone.
	That's true.
	Yeah, because you thought it was going to stop him and you step back.
	The ref didn't come in and you went back in and again.
	And it ended very bad for him because he was on the ground when you hit him.
	And you're looking at the rough like, you really want me to punch aside?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I dropped him in the first round with a nasty head kick, kind of walked off.
	I mean, the dude was eyeballed.
	We're like, whoa, the ref left.
	I mean, he gets back up.
	I let him back up.
	And then the third round, drop him with the left hand.
	He falls to his back.
	I kind of walk off.
	Ref doesn't stop it.
	Jump on.
	He could have stopped that fight.
	The ref could have stopped it, and nobody would have said it again.
	And that's what I'm saying, though.
	If they did, nobody would have been pissed off because it's like, yo, dude, you were getting in a bit.
	But also, sometimes in certain fights, like, you know, when they get in, you're like, what are you doing?
	I feel like more people would have been pissed off if they stopped it.
	I think so.
	People want to see.
	I mean, even that Al Joe fight, people are complaining about it being a late or early stoppage.
	But I mean, once the UFC comes out with this documentary they shot and they have some crazy slow-mo footage of his eyes like rolling back.
	It's like the ref's standing above the guy knocked out, watching his eyes.
	So the ref's making the best decision in the moment.
	Okay.
	This dude is not fighting back.
	People are like, yeah, but he turned his back.
	He was going to try to get up.
	It's like, yeah, but I wasn't the one knocked out.
	I was the one punching him.
	And he's the one giving me his back.
	What do you guys think I'm going to do?
	Let him up?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, it's not going to get better for him because he turned his back.
	Sean, who's the toughest guy you fought?
	Peter Jan.
	Peter Jan and Al Joe were both tough, tough fights.
	Cheeto, I mean, Cheeto's definitely up there when it just comes to pure toughness and durability.
	Cheeto's probably up there for sure.
	Yeah.
	Did you, by the way, I like watching him fight.
	He's fighting this weekend, too.
	Yeah, I know.
	I really like watching him fight.
	It was one fight that he had.
	I don't know which fight it was.
	When you watch him, very interesting style of fighter he is.
	Yeah, very skilled.
	Yeah, very skilled.
	Didn't you just recently, what story did you tell about how you ran into, is it Umar?
	Who was it you ran into in the bathroom and he was washing his feet?
	I guess that's a religious thing, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I didn't know that at the time.
	I'm like, and I was like, I don't know, I was trying to ask myself, I'm like, wait, did I, was he washing his hands maybe?
	But no, yeah, it was like he was washing his feet.
	But yeah, I guess that's a religious thing.
	So I didn't mean to, you know, say anything negative about it.
	I don't think I did, but I was, yeah, I don't think anybody received it as negative.
	It's just maybe you just don't know culturally how.
	By the way, he's the cousin.
	Is he the cousin of Khabib?
	I think he's a, is he friends or cousin?
	There you go.
	Cousin.
	So he's Khabib's cousin.
	So what's his, is he?
	He just fought.
	He's in the same weight class.
	He's in the same weight club.
	Where's he ranked at right now?
	I don't think he's ranked, but it's because no one will fight him, supposedly.
	I mean, I guess the UFC's offered him a bunch of fights.
	They had to bring in some random Russian to fight him last weekend, some 17-01 guy.
	So, you know, that's a big, you know, Irish-Russian fight.
	Why do you think he's not ranked?
	Oh, 13.
	Oh, he's ranked number 13.
	Okay.
	But he's the guy that a lot of people are talking about.
	Would he be like, meaning for someone like you?
	Okay, let's just say Vera's fight is done with.
	Okay.
	And you're right.
	You're saying you got him, you know, tough fight, durable.
	No one knocks him out.
	And you're a knockout artist.
	So if you do, that's a very, very big deal if you do because it hasn't happened.
	So the market's going to react to that.
	And that's what everyone's going to be talking about 100%.
	So I'm excited about that.
	We'll be there ourselves.
	Like I told you, we're going 35D because we want to watch you fight.
	But would he be somebody or would it be more like in your mind?
	Have you thought about, am I going to increase weight?
	Am I going to stay here?
	What's good?
	Because you've seen other guys do that and it didn't work out for them.
	So are you kind of monitoring and saying, you know, I don't know if I want to go this way.
	I want to pull guys to come this way.
	What are you thinking some of the next moves?
	Yeah, for someone like Umar, it's like he's got to, he doesn't have, he has a big name because it's Nirmagametov.
	That's the reason no one really knows him.
	So he's got some fights to win as far as like, I want big fights.
	I want massive fights.
	Murab's done a good job.
	Like three, four fights ago, he's so boring.
	He just holds on to people.
	But now he's kind of just done it to so many people.
	It's interesting.
	It's like, okay, can he do this to everyone?
	So Murab's an interesting guy.
	He's on a 10-fight win streak.
	Alger was on a nine-fight win streak when I knocked him out.
	You know, they're very similar styles.
	I believe I knocked Murab out.
	That's a potentially a big fight next.
	Ilya Taporia, Ilya Tilapia just beat Alexander Volkanovsky.
	You know, I would like to get that fight in Spain someday.
	Oh, wow, that'd be sick.
	I think, you know, I go out there and get a couple more knockouts.
	He goes out there, gets a couple more knockouts.
	That fight's massive.
	I mean, I was kind of calling for it next after Cheeto if things go as planned.
	You versus Umar?
	Ilya Taporia just knocked out Alexander, champ champ, going up to 145.
	Well, he's 145.
	But I got a lot of hate on that.
	I was like, you know, this would be a crazy fight.
	People would love to see that.
	The fans.
	Oh, God.
	But the fans always hate on confidence.
	They hate on, like, I'm like, this would be a sweet fight.
	And the fans are like, no, you need to fight Murab.
	You're ducking Mirab.
	I'm like, all right, I'll knock Murab out next.
	That's really what you guys are.
	Zoom in a little bit, Rob.
	Zoom in a little bit if you could.
	So Murab is right behind you.
	Yep, Murab's number one.
	Alger moved up.
	He's fighting at 145 on 300.
	Corey's there.
	He's deserving.
	Peter's going to be there.
	Yeah, crazy division.
	Davison Figuredo moved up from 125, knocked out or beat Rob Font.
	He's fighting Cody Garbrandt.
	Dominic Cruz still in there, huh?
	Dominic Cruz somehow still.
	Wow.
	I'm like, damn, this guy's, he's old, huh?
	Yeah, he's been there for a month.
	Monster division.
	So when is Umar fighting next?
	He just fought last weekend and won.
	Beat it, won a decision.
	Have they announced yet the next thing?
	Or it's not going to be announced probably in another couple months or so, right?
	Yeah.
	I think that would be a very, very exciting fight.
	Yeah, it definitely will be if he goes out there.
	And the thing about Uminar is he's pulled out of so many fights.
	He gets injured.
	He's pulled out a three, four, five fights.
	So taking a fight against him is dangerous.
	It's like, God, is this guy going to show up?
	Are they going to switch it last minute?
	What's the UFC's rules against that?
	I mean, if you get injured, it's like, has he pulled that three or four time because it's all injury?
	He's injury prone or?
	I think a couple, last couple of times were injury prone.
	Yeah, but I don't know.
	I mean, I don't know if there's...
	You're like protocol, because I remember when Conor was fighting, gonna fight Aldo, Aldo got his rib injured, right?
	So you had to fight Chad Mendez.
	So it's like, I mean, yeah, how can you prove, okay, it's not broken.
	I'm sore.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I think in his case, there are serious injuries.
	But yeah, so I mean, but will that be a big fight someday?
	I do believe so.
	Connor versus Habib, you know, at Bantamway, basically.
	Oh, wow.
	Damn.
	That'd be a sick fight.
	I mean, that's kind of like that was, yeah, I mean, that was, that's essentially the biggest pay-per-view fight ever.
	I think three out of the top five biggest pay-per-view fights ever have Connor on the ticket.
	Three out of five.
	Seven or eight out of ten.
	Yeah.
	That was like, that's gold.
	What do you think made him that?
	Was it how much of it was skill set?
	How much of it was his actual abilities?
	How much of it was his ability to market, promote, drive fights?
	Yeah, I think you got to go UFC.
	You go in boxing.
	So if you go top UFC, there you go, pay-per-view fights ever.
	It was a mixture between being able to talk, being able to sell a fight as far as being able to talk the way he talks, his accent, his witty.
	But it also comes down to performances.
	A lot of people, I feel like, think I'm in this position because I have crazy hair, I have face tattoos, or I say wild shit, but it's like, go look at my highlight reel.
	That's why I'm in this position.
	No, your highlight reel is pretty wild.
	I mean, you got stuff that's 10, 20, 30 million plus views.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there you go.
	That's the one.
	I think.
	Nowadays, it's so hard, especially with the generation.
	It's so easy to go to stream it on some illegal platform.
	It's just like, you know, people tend to do that more.
	I think with a card like this, 299 being stacked, like some people are like, oh, it's a main event I want to watch.
	I don't want to buy the whole card.
	Oh, I want to watch two fights on the card.
	But with the UFC 299 being stacked, Peter Jan and Song Yidon are opening up the card.
	Oh, wow.
	Open up the main card.
	It's an incredible fight.
	It's an incredible fight card.
	So I feel like, you know, it's worth.
	And remember, last time Dana reported, Miami was the number one.
	It beat out New York, right?
	Madison Square Garden.
	I don't know what the number was, but he specifically said Miami's the new LA.
	Miami's what LA used to be 10 years ago.
	Go back up, Rob.
	So you got who?
	You got obviously the main fight.
	Big fight.
	Everyone's looking for Dustin Poitier against Benoit Saints.
	Benoit got it.
	And he got Kevin Holland against Paige.
	Michael Venom Page is making his debut.
	And Jack Delamandela.
	Some crazy fighting.
	This is good.
	This should be exciting.
	But for me, I'm just watching you, seeing what's going to be the next thing that's the next big.
	I think UFC, it'll be interesting to see what's the next big fight.
	Even with Connor, Connor and Chandler, right?
	They're talking about, you know, you made some comments about that.
	You said you don't know if it's good for him to come back because of the money that he's already made.
	You said something in that context, right?
	I don't.
	I say a lot of shit, but I want to see Connor come back.
	I'm one of the biggest Connor fans since, you know, since I remember, I think the first time I watched him fight was Max Holloway years ago.
	So I'm a huge Connor fan, and people always try to almost make it seem like I'm not a hater because I'm trying to be bigger than Connor.
	And it sounds like in a negative context, but I was like, Connor is my, you know, he's the one of the people I looked up to, especially in fighting.
	So I would love to see Connor come back.
	I'd love to see Connor come back and win.
	Although I do like Michael Chandler as a person, I think he's a good person.
	And it sucks when it's fighting.
	But yeah, I would love to see Connor come back and keep doing massive pay-per-views.
	Who do you think would win if those guys?
	Because Chandler, on a daily basis, is training.
	Chandler's life is still.
	This is his life.
	He does some business here and there, but Chandler, every day, he's posting videos of how hard he's training, how prepared he is.
	Fuck.
	Yeah, I mean, that definitely plays a role going into a fight.
	Who knows what Connor's doing?
	Sometimes you know what he's doing.
	He's on the yacht, but he's got a gym.
	He said on the banks.
	He's popping out every week.
	There's another kid coming out, and he's like, drink this whiskey.
	I'm like, damn, bro.
	He is just drinking and hooking up.
	I mean, God bless the family.
	His family's huge.
	How many kids is?
	Is it three or four and four?
	I think four, another one's on the way, bro.
	All of this just happened, by the way.
	He's like, what the fuck?
	He's just humping those things.
	He's probably got four kids like under six or something like that.
	Yeah, zoom in rep. Bro, he has a tribe.
	Yeah, I want a tribe someday.
	Oh, good for you, bro.
	Go ahead.
	Personal kids.
	I'm going to say four and he's going on five.
	Personal life.
	He's been in a relationship with D.
	Yeah, DWA, and I think one more is on the way.
	So, can I ask you a question, Sean?
	How much?
	So, I forgot, I saw something with you, a documentary or something where they're like, especially with you, you, you know, people were like talking crap because you weren't jumping in trying to go for like with the number one rank, or you weren't fighting for those type of fights.
	It's the you have to build your name first and then you get to the top to fight.
	How much of that, like the image, the style, the shit talking, the all that, how much does that play into that whole game of the fight?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, I mean, I coming up in the UFC, you get paid, you know, your first couple fights, everyone gets paid pretty much the same, and then each fight, you know, people can negotiate contracts differently.
	But I mean, if you're your third fight deep, you're not going to be making a couple hundred thousand, you know what I mean?
	So, it's like when I'm getting offered these guys that aren't in top 15, top 10, I'm like, hell yeah.
	I wouldn't even want to fight the number, you know, seven guy making 40 and 40.
	Like, I want to be when I fight these guys that are, you know, tough, Pedro Munoz, Peter Young, like these, I want to be making hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	Um, and then when I'm obviously the champ, I'm gonna be making millions, but uh, yeah, so it's I was never complaining about how fast I moved up, I enjoyed it.
	I was young, I got on the UFC when I was 23.
	I didn't need to be fighting the top, top guys in the world.
	Um, and the UFC is also you know a business, fight business, but they're a business.
	Um, so you know, I think I just trusted them, and they just kind of, you know, it was as simple as that.
	You know, how in boxing, like, um, uh, a for example, uh, um, you know, Oscar De La Joya, I have Ryan Garcia here on the podcast a couple weeks ago, right?
	Yeah, and and uh, uh, he's a big fan of yours, by the way.
	I know you guys are fans of each other, you guys say a lot of nice things to each other.
	You guys see him real quick.
	Did you see me saying he could beat me in a UFC fight?
	You have that, Rob.
	If you want to pull out that, though, the moment Pat said that to me, everybody's face in that meeting was like, dude, he one of your Lego pull a stomach to somebody like that was a rap.
	I think that was a little bit of the booger sugar talking, though, if I'm being honest.
	I'll beat his ass in MMA, guaranteed in MMA.
	Yeah, I'm a natural.
	You don't understand?
	I'm a natural wrestler.
	I just beat my security that's a wrestler.
	I beat him.
	I'm strong, and I got crazy conditioning.
	So, most people in your position would want him to come over to boxing.
	That's already been done.
	I know I'm going to knock him out in boxing.
	That's not even fair.
	What is fair is to test myself in MMA because I know if I put my mind to it and I trained every day and I had Nate helping me, even Alex Carrera, all of them, and I really locked in, he will not beat me.
	I will come with everything I have and I will destroy Sean O'Malley in the UFC.
	In the UFC, I've already sent text messages to Dana.
	I've already got people that are kind of like you did Dana.
	I'll come to UFC.
	I'm down to do it.
	Any response?
	No, bro.
	Maybe he's trying to save you.
	Maybe he's trying to save your life not to get in a ring with a dude that you're doing.
	What would happen if you guys actually got into a UFC fight?
	I mean, depending what do you want to see?
	You want me to choke him?
	You want me to knock him out?
	You want to kick his leg?
	What do you want me to do?
	I'll do what you want.
	But I mean, I can do anything.
	You don't want to get that too close.
	I mean, he's a bot.
	Let's not front.
	He's a boxer, but you have everything.
	Boxing distance is like this.
	Yeah, yeah.
	MMA fighting distance, little gloves is a little bit different.
	It's a different game.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Especially with that big, but the rate, yeah.
	What do you think would happen, though, if you guys actually fought?
	I would talk to the team.
	I would say, hey, boys, you want me to knock him out or submit him?
	I'd let people pick.
	I'd probably do some polls.
	Say, you guys want me to knock him on my left hand, my left foot?
	I'd probably do some games and figure out.
	Okay, what if we put this?
	You can tell me how I want to finish in my face.
	Oh, by the way, here's what I would want to know.
	Honestly, my main curiosity would be the following.
	It's, you know, how Elon just announced that his car is going to, he's going to be building the first car that's going to do 060 in one second?
	Crazy, right?
	And you're 60s.
	Looks freaking scary as hell going that fast.
	But if the race was, okay, zero to knockout or submission, how long do you think you would need to get him done?
	That's a good question.
	Great question.
	In UFC, not boxing, in UFC.
	So I think the fastest way to victory then would be to probably choke him.
	I probably could choke him in a couple minutes.
	Oh, you would need two minutes.
	So you think it'd be a two-minute thing?
	That's being humble.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Sean's a genius.
	I don't know.
	It's hard to say.
	So two minutes.
	Okay, so it wouldn't be a Masvedal type of thing with him against what happened.
	10 seconds to shoot.
	That was weird.
	I think if you watch that fight back from five minutes to like 4.57 is actually when he, I think it was like two, three seconds.
	He sprinted across.
	The clock kept going until the red.
	I mean, then there was an extra few, but I think it was really only two, three seconds.
	But yeah, that's very rare.
	That's a very rare instance.
	What was Connor's knockout?
	13.
	13 seconds.
	Yeah, it was hopping.
	Yeah, and it was it.
	He came in left, boom.
	Yeah, and Aldo also connected, but Aldo wasn't as 13 seconds.
	Got it.
	So how about if you guys box?
	You and Ryan box.
	See, now that's competitive.
	That's more competitive.
	I wouldn't be the favorite by any means.
	It would be more competitive.
	Do I believe I could beat Ryan in a boxing match?
	Yes.
	Do I think it'd be very, very difficult?
	Yeah.
	I would be up for the challenge.
	It'd be fun.
	I would enjoy the process of getting there.
	I would enjoy Switch and doing something fun.
	But the chances of him beating me in MMA are zero.
	The chances of me beating him in boxing are a lot more than zero.
	But still, I mean, he's been boxing his entire life, but I still believe I could take him out.
	How about street fight?
	Well, I mean, that's even street fight's the same as MMA.
	I mean, it's, yeah, he has zero chance.
	I've been fighting, you know, really fighting for 13 years, you know, and at a high level, I think, for about 10 years.
	So it's just not even, it's comical that he even says that.
	So let's bring it up to the one part.
	So, okay.
	Boxing, he's got the favorite, but it's closer.
	You know, UFC, you'll win.
	Street fight, you'll win.
	Mayweather fights Connor, right?
	Connor won one.
	Nine rounds, ten rounds.
	I think it won 10 rounds.
	Can you see how many rounds Connor went?
	I don't think, I think he, watching it, it looked like he did, but I think the judges didn't give it to him like that.
	I think Connor only won a few.
	Well, let's, yeah, let's pull it up.
	Not win, not win, how many rounds he went, not win.
	I want to know how many rounds yeah.
	I think you're at nine or ten?
	Can you check to see how long the the how long that fight lasted?
	Was it 10 rounds they went or was it a 10-round fight and they went nine, or was it a 12-round fight and they went 11 or 10?
	Do you have it?
	It should be categorized for no, it won't be there.
	It's gonna be in, if you go to Mayweather boxing.
	Oh, right there.
	Go down a little bit.
	Boxing right there.
	Mayweather, money fight.
	Oh, I didn't say, okay.
	It doesn't say how many.
	Okay, he did good.
	I thought he did really good.
	Are you kidding me?
	I was like, wait a minute.
	This was actually 10 rounds.
	Okay, 10 round.
	So TKO in the 10th round.
	Okay.
	Respect.
	Connor's a lot bigger.
	I know.
	A lot bigger than I know.
	I know.
	So then the question would be the following, just purely for shits and giggles, for us fans who out there like questions like this.
	Your peak boxing against Connor boxing.
	Who comes?
	Connor, fuck.
	Peak.
	I don't even really hit 160 when I'm heavy.
	That dude's walking around like 195 right now, 185.
	He's just a big fucker.
	It is getting bigger.
	And he's just getting bigger.
	So, you know, I don't necessarily love my odds against that, but just boxing, it's like speed kills.
	And I'm, you know, I'm pretty quick.
	But, you know, out of respect, I'll say Connor can knock me out.
	Look at this guy.
	Oh, what the hell is he on?
	He's not going to fight like that.
	I'm talking about like, let's just say weight class.
	Let's pick a weight.
	What's the lightest he ever fought?
	I think I have the best.
	I think I have better skills.
	I can stand South Paul Orthodox and have very good defense, both, very good offense, both.
	I think I have the best striking in MMA, hands down, to be honest, or hands up.
	What's the lightest he ever fought?
	145.
	Okay.
	So you're fighting what weight?
	135.
	I'll fight at 45.
	Okay, so I'm saying 145 to 145.
	Who wins?
	It's a good question.
	Connor in his prime at 145 when he knocked out Jose Aldo.
	And me moving up to 145, I'd still be a little bit lighter, but I'm taller.
	I believe I'm faster.
	I think it'd be a good, I think it'd be a competitive fight back in the day when he was 145.
	No, no, not today.
	I'm talking purely 145.
	So you're giving the slight edge to yourself, it sounds like.
	I got it.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Yeah, that would be, that would be, I mean, we'll never see it.
	That's the thing that you'll never see it.
	But we can do it in video game.
	Oh, yeah.
	And say, hey, I want to play 140.
	By the way, somebody should do it.
	Somebody should do a simulation.
	Somebody, please.
	And just someone's going to make this clip here and just see what's going to happen with it.
	Choose Connor 145, whoever's doing the video game stuff.
	I don't know if I'm at 145 in the game.
	I don't know if you can do that.
	Damn, could they match him up?
	Somebody has to.
	Even if you can do 135 against 145, I'd love to see just purely what that simulation would look like.
	Well, matter of fact, do you have Rob?
	Do you have Chad GBT?
	Let's go.
	That's so funny.
	Go to ChatGPT.
	You're not logged in.
	Okay, see if you can log into your account and we'll wait for you.
	You want me to?
	I can do it on my phone.
	Yeah, I just want to know.
	Listen, I just want to Sam Altman.
	He claims this is a $7 trillion company.
	Okay.
	He's being sued right now by Elon Musk.
	Musk is not happy because him and Musk started this as a nonprofit.
	He turned into profit.
	Musk steps away and Musk is sitting there saying, wait a minute, what are you doing?
	This was never supposed to be profit.
	And now you're with Microsoft.
	Microsoft is a competitor too.
	Big time.
	So Musk is suing Altman right now.
	Did you hear about this or no?
	Because he said it was open AI source.
	Now it's closed and you're doing profit.
	Yeah.
	So anyways, I'd be curious to know.
	Obviously, you have to always trust the internet.
	You have to always trust ChatGPT.
	I mean, you have to.
	So, Sean, just really fast while he's logging in.
	Weight-wise, do you stay at your weight?
	Do you have to cut?
	Is it crazy?
	Like, I know the night before, people try to drop the water and everything.
	I'll do that.
	How crazy is it?
	Is it once this documentary comes out?
	They followed the whole process.
	You get a better idea of what we go through to cut weight.
	It's not fun.
	I mean, in the moment, everyone looks like they're dying.
	You know, you're dehydrated completely.
	But yeah.
	Not MMA fight.
	In a boxing match, who would win in a boxing match match between Connor McGregor and Sean O'Malley?
	It's funny that he says, hello, Rob.
	Want to ask porn questions now?
	You just find out everything about Rob.
	I'm so curious to know what Chat GBT thinks.
	Predicting a winner between this and this and boxing match is very difficult as both fighters possess unique strengths.
	Oh, you got diplomatic and political eyes.
	Okay, let's see strengths and weaknesses.
	Go up there.
	Let's see how what Chad GBT says.
	For Connor, more experience in boxing, have completed professional before.
	So possesses heavier knockout power, especially in the left hand.
	Okay, weight a little bit higher.
	Proven track record of success against top-tier competition weakness, recent inactivity and injuries.
	Well, then he's not really answering the question the way we want to chin.
	Okay, has shown vulnerabilities in his chin against counter punchers in the past.
	Strength, younger, and potentially hungrier with a longer fighting ahead.
	Excellent footwork and movement, movement, making him difficult to hit cleanly, possesses good technical skills.
	Wow, Chat GPT's a fan's a fan of work.
	Weakness, less experience.
	Okay.
	Has never faced an opponent of Connor's caliber.
	Maybe susceptible to McGregor's pressure and heavy punches.
	Ultimately, the outcome of the fight would likely depend on several factors: McGregor's current form and fitness level, O'Malley's ability to handle Connor's power and pressure, the fight strategy and game plan.
	Well, listen, pretty that's crazy.
	That's pretty good analysis right there.
	I'm technically 1-0 pro boxing.
	I think he's technically 0-1, but he did fight Floyd.
	So, I mean, I'll give him that.
	So, ChatGPT doesn't know what he's talking about then because it needs to listen, Sam.
	You got to check out this 1-0 record versus 0-1.
	Please fix your update chat.
	Update the system on the next sprint.
	No, but look, you know, for are you a fan of any other sports outside of NFL?
	Um, I'm a fan of athletes, the high-level performers, more so, I feel like.
	I don't mind.
	I can't really sit down and watch a basketball game, but uh, you know, watching someone perform like Steph just go crazy or LeBron go crazy.
	Like, that's fun.
	I like watching highlights on YouTube or stuff like that.
	But NFL, I can sit down and watch full games more so.
	Um, who do you like?
	Are there guys that you're, you know, where you do you have a relationship with Mahomes, Brady, a Joe Burrow?
	Are there any guys where like, I really like the way that guy plays?
	Yeah, I really like, I mean, Joey B's coming to come to the fight as well.
	Second, uh, you know, fan of his.
	It's hard not to be a fan of Patrick Mahomes, watching him get it done crunch time.
	You know, I again, watching high-level performances like that, um, him and Kelsey do their thing is beautiful to watch.
	Um, but yeah, not a ton, but a few.
	You said something.
	You said at the beginning, I said, wanted to be an NFL player.
	You said, still do.
	Still fantasy.
	Yeah.
	What position did you play?
	I quit growing, unfortunately.
	You know, wide receiver, DB.
	I think defensive backs are some of the most athletic athletes in the world.
	Guarding those guys is insane.
	But yeah, I think I would be a little wide receiver.
	Might be a little too short.
	Where's your 40?
	How fast did you run your 40?
	Do you remember?
	I've actually never, I don't think I've ever done that.
	Did you guys hear about what this guy ran this weekend?
	What?
	Did you see this or no?
	Put fastest 40 ran in the compound.
	Just 4-2.
	Bro, a guy ran a 4-2-40.
	Like, I'm talking beyond.
	So, you can see this guy in the combine?
	It's the.
	He's broke the record for the fastest 40 down.
	Did he break the record?
	I thought he did.
	He broke the look at it.
	Is this it?
	Bro, this doesn't even make sense.
	John.
	No, I don't think that's.
	I think it's another guy.
	No, Ross.
	I was going to say, that's not a John Ross.
	No, This just happened, Rob.
	If you go on Google, don't go on Twitter.
	Go on Google.
	I think you're worthy.
	Go on Google.
	This is a good one.
	Was it worthy?
	I think it was worthy.
	Yeah, it was worthy, Pat.
	It's this guy.
	He ran a 4-2-1.
	4-2-1.
	By the way, never has there been a documented 4-2-1, not Dion, not Bo.
	Damn.
	They're always talking about how Bo ran a 4-1-9.
	That's the rumor that.
	I think Bo, they said Bo ran a 4-1-9, but this guy just absolutely crushed it with his speed.
	Just the dude clicking it like that.
	This is it.
	Watch this.
	This is a 4-2-1.
	Go back.
	Look at this guy.
	Cheetah.
	3-1.
	Look at this.
	If you see it from the side, it looks fake.
	Damn.
	Just moving.
	Yeah, that's insane to be running.
	I remember when Devin Hester on the Madden game was the first time he was someone with 100.
	Yeah, he was 100 speed.
	I was like, holy shit.
	Yeah, Devin Hester was.
	Is he the one that has the record for a pun return kickoff return for touchdown?
	In one game.
	In one game.
	I think he is.
	Like three or something.
	He's still something like that.
	He was remember Dante Hall, too, from KC, bro.
	KC, he used to be pretty wild as well.
	X Factor.
	On what he was doing.
	So, okay, let's transition to a couple of the topics here.
	So when it comes down to, you know, you've talked about how at this fight, Joe Burrow is going to be there this Saturday, right?
	I think you told a story about the time you posted a picture of you and Trump at a UFC fight.
	And is it true that your father said, take it down because some people may not like it?
	It was the caption I think he was referring to.
	What did you say?
	Well, he walked in with Kid Rock.
	Donald Trump did.
	I think I said we're going to fuck some hoes after we rock this place.
	And my dad's like, I don't think the people on the left are going to...
	I'm like, I don't give a fuck on the left.
	I don't know enough about it to fucking care if one of the people get mad.
	So to me, it was just like, this is a legendary pick, legendary caption.
	Kid Rock was there.
	It was like, yeah, I'm posting that.
	Now, has Dana at all announced the possibility of Joe Biden coming to the fight this Sunday, this Saturday, or no?
	That would be pretty.
	That's a little late.
	I think we're fighting at like 12.30.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I guess, again, I don't know much about politics, but he's a bad boy.
	6 p.m. He's out.
	By the way, I'm actually curious.
	We're talking about simulation.
	You fighting against Connor, right?
	145, 135.
	I want you to actually think about it.
	Because you've been at a fight.
	You see what happens.
	You're in it when you see him walking out.
	What happens to the fans?
	And the whole place pretty much shuts down.
	I think one time Masvedal was fighting.
	He walks in.
	They stopped in the middle of the fight because he was walking in.
	I think he walked in in the middle of the fight or the beginning of the fight.
	The walk took like so long until he, we were at that fight.
	I heard that, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it was nice.
	So what would happen?
	Serious question.
	What would happen if Joe Biden walked in?
	What would happen with the fans, the arena, the state?
	What would happen if that were to happen?
	That's a good question.
	I think it would be the biggest booing.
	If Biden, if the Jumbotron went to Biden and he walked into any, doesn't matter, Miami, New York, he would get the biggest booze and it would ruin the fight.
	Because, dude, people wouldn't be bashing him the whole time.
	You know that.
	What do you think would happen?
	UFC does seem Trump heavy.
	Bro, and it's crazy because, Sean, it doesn't matter where they are.
	I mean, Dana's not hiding this relationship with Donald Trump, bro.
	Maybe he's attending.
	Can you Google it?
	Has Joe Biden ever attended a UFC fight?
	No.
	I'm searching it right now to see it.
	Maybe he has.
	We don't know about it.
	I think he did go to one football college game and they did the Joe Biden.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	Listen, he's not loved, bro.
	He's not loved.
	Yeah, that's an interesting job.
	What a president?
	Tell me.
	Why do you think it's interesting?
	It just doesn't seem like I just can't imagine wanting to be the president and just have all that fucking stress.
	I don't know.
	Fuck that.
	Constant fight.
	Constant press.
	So you think fighting is less stressed than oh, yeah.
	I get to chill at home, watch some Netflix, fucking smoke some weeds, relax, not make important decisions, and it's way more enjoyable.
	Well, I mean, listen, if president, you can not only smoke weed, your son can bring cocaine.
	You can do a lot of other wilder things.
	You could do blocks.
	You could do deals with China.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's actually a good point.
	It'd be interesting.
	I would simply want to know when, because you know, two Super Bowls, he didn't want to do the Super Bowl three-minute interview.
	I don't know why.
	This year?
	He turned it down to want to do it.
	Instead, they made a commercial about shrinkflation.
	I don't know if somebody would shrinkflation.
	So shrinkflation is, you know, this Topech Chico is how many ounces?
	It's 16.9 ounces and they sell it for $2, let's just say.
	Now, they're still selling it for $2, but it's 13 ounces.
	So, they fool you.
	It's called shrinkflation, is what he talks about.
	You know, where I thought you were going when you said Biden, Trump, if they had to get into a fight, if they went UFC in the middle of the, who do you think wins that fight?
	Well, Trump.
	You think so?
	Yeah, I don't think Biden's, you know, the difficulties walking to the octagon there.
	That would, that, oh my, can you imagine that?
	They announce him and just Joe Biden, the light hits him.
	He has no idea where they're at.
	Oh, God.
	And Trump's just in the ring.
	Like, where is it?
	It's terrible for America.
	Who wins, though?
	Who wins the fight?
	If you have to put your money, who won't?
	I think he's right.
	It's purely energy.
	He can't walk.
	He walks super slow.
	You know what he would run his 40-yard dash right now?
	What?
	Take an afternoon.
	It would take a while.
	Chat GPT it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Who would how long for a 40-yard dash?
	Yeah, it's hilarious.
	How long would he run a 40?
	It's actually sad, too, though.
	It's like he's like an old guy and he's like just in this position.
	Who knows if he's, you know, really wants to be.
	I don't know.
	But Sean, because you said, like, because you don't get into it, you're not, you know, left, right?
	But you said it's a hard job.
	But have you felt how different it is from like, because, you know, when Trump was in to where now it's just like, you know, the people in power, it's just, it's just all, you know, babying him, coddling him, letting him.
	And you saw like the other guy was really pro-America and they went after him and they're trying to destroy him.
	Yeah, I don't, yeah, I really know very little, but whoever's going to save me a little cheddar on my taxes, let's get that guy there.
	Yeah, bingo.
	Well, by the way, that in itself is knowing a lot about politics.
	Period.
	Period.
	Whoever's going to save me some dough.
	That is politics.
	At the end of the day, politics is, you know, who's going to improve the economy, you know, who's going to be the simplified.
	Taxes, economy, job, paying my bills, having a good life.
	Two, secure, no war, no fights.
	I can go to sleep.
	I'm doing my.
	And then three, allow me to have my own opinion, my freedom.
	I mean, politics is actually so super simple if you just go to the basics.
	What's important to you?
	Those three things are really it if you think about it.
	We don't need to add all this other, you know, everything else just complicates things rather than simplifying things.
	So, Sean, when did you have, do you feel like you've already started making real money?
	Are you already making real money?
	I feel like if I decided to, you know, quit fighting, I'd be, I could live the rest of my life comfortably.
	I kept buying houses on the come up.
	So I have six houses.
	You know, I'm doing the real estate thing.
	I got some investment stuff and I got the retirement fund.
	So I'm doing everything right.
	I got good people around me to really help me with my money.
	And I think I could consider myself to be able to live comfortably the rest of my life at this point.
	And that's coming from where you're upbringing because how different is it night and day with your upbringing?
	We definitely weren't, I would say we were middle class or whatever.
	My mom was, we had four, they had four kids, and she was very, you know, stingy is the right word, but very careful with the money.
	A lot of arguments, mom and dad talking about money, spending gas money, you know, we didn't go out to eat.
	And if we did, you know, a dollar menu.
	And that was rare.
	But I was raised like that to where money was always an issue.
	It was always a fight over the money constantly.
	So I feel like I was once I started making money, I was very smart with it and made sure that'll never have to be that case.
	But I'd like to continue.
	I enjoy making money.
	I enjoy the process of helping signing with brands, building brands.
	I'd love to start making my own brands more so, getting equity in companies, stuff like that.
	But it's a nice safety net to know, like, okay, if I really just was over this, that I could, you know, I have a farm.
	I could live on, I could live out there.
	In Montana?
	In Arizona right now.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	I could, you know, I could be done with all this and just, you know, coach and help Tim.
	My coach has a gym.
	He'll help be there for community and still enjoy life.
	But I love making money.
	I love the deals.
	I love the whole, I love it.
	I flew here on a jet.
	Very few people are flying on the jets on the UFC.
	Connor might be.
	I might be the only other one.
	And people are like, oh, that's crazy.
	UFC doesn't get me a jet.
	I fly private, not everywhere I go, but when I'm fighting, I fly private.
	And to be able to do that and it not even affect me is nice.
	But I'd like to continue to make a lot more money.
	What's a lot of money?
	I want to make, you know, I want to have $100 million at some point before I'm 40-ish and continue to do stuff like that.
	But the fight game is so tricky.
	That's why I really try to enjoy these fight weeks.
	I got a lot of interviews.
	I got a lot of stuff to do, and I have a lot of weight to cut at the same time.
	So I'm not really eating a lot of calories right now.
	I'm pretty sure I switched to saltless chicken for dinner tomorrow.
	So if you guys wanted to come over.
	So I'm trying to still enjoy all this because I don't know when those last fights, you know, you never know when the last one's going to be.
	You know, so if I continue to go out there and do what I truly believe I'm going to do, and that's knock people out and make do big fights, I'm going to, I'm going to make a lot of money.
	Sean, closer to mom or dad?
	That's a good question.
	I'd say mom at this point.
	My mom works for me.
	She lives in Arizona 10 minutes from me.
	My dad still lives in Montana.
	So my mom's lived here for the last or lived there for the last few years.
	I'd say we're probably closer.
	How do they view you fighting today?
	Yeah, they love it now.
	My dad is a, you know, he'll walk past someone and say, hey, you want a picture?
	And they'd be like, I don't know who the fuck that is.
	He's that guy.
	He loves it.
	He'll wear sugar shirts, sugar mert all day.
	He loves it.
	My mom, she, she just, she, I don't know.
	She doesn't really watch it.
	She, again, she was always the one about money, money, money.
	She runs, she helps me get all my taxes stuff lined up for the accountants.
	So she, she loves that.
	She's like, holy shit, like, these numbers are massive.
	This is so fun.
	She loves being a part of that.
	That's cool.
	So she really enjoys that.
	And I don't trust anyone as much as I trust my mom when it comes to, you know, tax everything.
	Everything I spend money on, she's aware of it.
	She never's really like, don't buy this, don't buy that.
	Sometimes when I come home with a new court badge, it's like, why do you do that?
	But for the most part, yeah, she never really complains when I'm spending money.
	But yeah.
	How about siblings?
	You said you got four, right?
	So you're one of four.
	I'm the fourth.
	You're the fourth.
	No, I'm one of four, sorry, rather.
	Michael, my older brother, he's 33 right now.
	Michael, we're all four years apart.
	I thought I completely cut off the ability to love him and think that he's my brother because he was so far on drugs.
	Meth, bad.
	My dad was a detective and a cop back home in Helena when we grew up.
	And he went on the, he, you know, went on the deep, off the deep end, bad.
	So there was years I didn't talk to him.
	And if I did talk to him, he was, you know, I'm in the Illuminati.
	He was off the deep end.
	Me, you're in the Illuminati.
	He was saying I'm in the Illuminati.
	People are following him.
	Is this, that, and blah, blah, blah.
	But he just wasn't doing good for a long time.
	And he was still in Helena.
	And I was in Arizona for, you know, six, seven years at the time.
	So never talked to him.
	Thought my dad was going to call me.
	And if he did call me, it was like, Michael's in jail again.
	Michael got polaroid.
	Michael got a DY.
	So I completely cut off emotional attachment to him.
	I thought for sure my dad was calling me Michael's dead.
	Killed himself, got killed.
	And so completely cut off ties.
	And now he lives in Arizona, sober.
	By you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He lives.
	He lives.
	Yeah.
	Lives in Arizona, lives with my mom right now, with his son doing good, working full-time.
	Good for me sober healthy, couple years sober.
	And it's so weird to even still think i'm like damn, that's my brother, because for so long there I was like I basically didn't have, I didn't count him as a brother, he was with nothing, because I was, I would send him books, I would try to talk to him, but it was so, it was pointless at the time, it was like there's just nothing to do.
	Um, but it gave him opportunity to come to Arizona and you know we helped him and uh, but to fight that addiction, it was, it's impressive and inspiring to watch and it's, you know it's, it's doable.
	Not a lot of people can do it, so it's even more impressive that he's done it and he's living it right now.
	But uh, so yeah Michael, my older brother um, cool dude, little brother Daniel, four years younger than me book smart, smart as like, completely opposite of me, Michael was smart too in math and, like in school, wise.
	He was smart but just didn't apply himself in those areas my little brother did.
	Went to college.
	Um, he's going.
	He's going to school now for for chiropractic and other stuff like that.
	But super book smart, loves reading, loves studying, loves tests, good at all that stuff um, and they.
	He's an athlete too.
	He doesn't play anything anymore but he was good in high school football, basketball.
	He was kind of the star at the high schools, kind of what I wanted to be, but never was he.
	Was that guy interesting, um?
	And then my sister, she it's been pretty cool because she she's uh 21 no, just turned 22, I believe.
	She got a real estate license uh, shortly after she moved to Arizona.
	I mean she, she doesn't know what she wants to do, she kind of bouncing around, she's obsessed with dogs, loves dog training, wants to get a dog shelter, wants to take care of all the animals.
	Um, just a really, really good person, big heart, uh.
	But she got a real estate license and I started buying houses.
	So it's kind of worked out like i'm buying houses, she's making money, um and uh.
	So that worked out really well for her.
	So i'm her number one client.
	Yeah, what book did you send your brother when he was going through it?
	I think I sent him.
	It wasn't a book I read, but it was like a Russell Brand book.
	I think it was like the Nine Steps or something like that.
	I think I heard Russell Brand on Rogan and I was like oh, this might be good for him.
	I said too, never got touched.
	But uh yeah very, I mean it's interesting that now one person in the family would you say most of them moved to Arizona because you're the main.
	Oh, I moved everyone down, got it.
	Yeah yeah okay, except Pops is still on.
	Pops is still working on him, working on him yeah, working on him.
	He just loves Montana.
	If he wants to take more pictures, he's got to come over the trip.
	Yeah, it's uh.
	You know there's personal stuff there that I won't get into.
	That's their lives to talk about.
	But yeah, i'm trying to get him down there.
	I would love to.
	I mean, I got a little princess, Michael's got a son.
	I would love to have more kids.
	It's like you know, we don't live forever.
	Where do you want to be?
	That's right.
	I'm trying to get him down here.
	I got everybody here right now except for one person and uh, my dad is now here, my sister's here, my nephew, my niece, my kids, they all go to the same place.
	It's a very uh, i'm sure you're loving it while you're going through it right now and it's just going to get better for you because you're just going to make more money.
	You're just getting started making money.
	The money thing is going to get bigger and bigger for you.
	By the way, why do you wear such a small necklace?
	What's the story?
	Yeah, it's kind of kind of embarrassing because you are making a lot of money.
	Sean, I think you'd like, yeah, what's?
	This is a gift.
	Uh, I don't know if kids are familiar with Steve Will Do, yeah, that's you.
	Yeah, that's saved.
	Steve's a cheat, yeah.
	So, you know, that's rocking that.
	But yeah, I do the jewelry thing a little bit, not too crazy.
	I feel like the less when I was making less money, I was buying more jewelry, and now I'm making more money.
	I'm just kind of not buying jewelry as much.
	I'm like, you only get you get so many pieces you like, and you kind of stick with that.
	But going back to the making money, my goal is to have a compound.
	I want to have the people that I want to, you know, raise my kids around.
	And I want Tim and Mariah, my coach.
	I want them.
	I want to be, I have five acres right now, four acres right now, and there's five acres behind my house I want to buy.
	So a nice nine-acre property would be incredible.
	You know, have Danny's mom, my girl's mom, my baby mama's mom, live there, grow a crazy garden.
	You know, I have chickens right now.
	So I want to, I want to build a compound and live with my people and train jiu-jitsu.
	And yeah, that's the goal.
	We had Gina Carano here last week, and she also has chickens.
	But she lives in Montana.
	Really?
	So she moved to Montana and you left Montana.
	You know, Gina Carano, the actress.
	I don't know if you know who she is.
	The Mandalorian.
	She was in UFC, right?
	She was a farmer.
	Oh, okay.
	I was going to say, yeah, yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	She said she got chickens and she's happy.
	And I was like, dude, that's chickens.
	There's something about it.
	It's so weird.
	You go out there and you open up the little nesting box and you see, you know, 10 different colored eggs.
	It's so weird.
	It's like, because probably back in the day, you grab an egg.
	That's food.
	That's, you know, when you grab it, it does something to you.
	And it's fun.
	Like, taking Elena out there to go grab eggs is incredible.
	Going back to going back to boxing with UFC that we're talking about, do you follow boxing as well, or are you fully focused mainly on UFC?
	Boxing just doesn't really do it for me.
	Jake Paul, I watched that.
	I watched when Logan had a couple fights.
	I watched that.
	I was very interested, very entertained by that.
	But for the most part, I really, it's hard.
	I don't know.
	I just am not super interested in boxing.
	I don't know if it's just because there's so many different organizations.
	You don't know who's what weight class.
	The weight class are weird.
	There was this.
	So I don't really follow boxing that close.
	I don't really follow UFC that close.
	I'd say I'm more of a casual fan as far as like I didn't watch one fight on the card last weekend.
	There wasn't really anything that excited me.
	I know Umar was on that fight, but it's just like, you know, I was getting my hair done.
	I kind of forgot about it.
	It's just like, so I watch the big fights.
	Forgot about.
	Yeah.
	So you really not a fan of the watching what others are doing?
	Not a huge, yeah, not hugely.
	I've been playing a lot of Call of Duty recently.
	Fucking love rescues.
	You're ranking it?
	Okay.
	I'm not, I'm getting carried heavily.
	I like to play with, even that's fun to watch, the highest level.
	How gaming are those guys?
	The slide cancels.
	Them talking, calling stuff out.
	And they're, I mean, it's a you got to be somewhat smart to be able to, it's like a strategy game to be able to know what to do.
	And also your hand-eye coordination.
	And it's fun to watch those guys play at a high level too.
	Are you streaming?
	I stream on Twitter.
	You're Twitching?
	Yeah.
	I play with, you know, comedian Eric Griffin.
	I feel like that sounds familiar.
	He was Montez from Workaholics.
	Me and this guy, dude, and we're older, so it's not as easy.
	We're playing with young guys.
	Yeah.
	So these dudes are just sniping, moving, and I'm like, everybody's cheating.
	Everybody's cheating.
	Yeah, that's what everyone that sucks says.
	Sean, why are you going to put me out, bro?
	He's going to see this.
	My buddies that suck.
	They'll kill me.
	He's fucking hacking.
	Yeah, he's like, bro, you just suck.
	Yeah, but you nailed it, bro.
	Like, Pat, you don't understand the tactics, the movement, the setting up, like bouncing beddies or the movement, your squad.
	People talk about strategy.
	It's strategy and your hand-eye coordination, bro.
	Oh, I believe it.
	Listen, I was a kid that was obsessed with RPG games growing up.
	That's all it was for me.
	Final Fantasy.
	Everything was like, can you finish this?
	Or the Zelda back in the day, Zelda, or Fester's Quest, or there was plenty of like old school, old school, you know, RPG games.
	But I totally see the strategy part of it.
	Challenges, you can be really, really the other day.
	Tico showed me this Roblox thing, the biggest Roblox build.
	He showed it to me, too.
	He showed it to you?
	But the biggest Roblox.
	But I don't even know what Roblox is.
	It's like you could build an entire city.
	Which one did he show you, Pat?
	He showed me one that was like 21 million pieces.
	Jesus.
	Yeah, and I'm like, how long is it going to take you to build this?
	But, dad, think about it.
	What if I build it and we have the biggest piece?
	And I'm like, buddy, but tell me, what did the do you collect rent from everybody that's in that building?
	Yeah, I just build it faster now.
	Oh, but 100%.
	But okay, so on the boxing side, you're not really following anybody.
	Even if I told your names, you wouldn't know.
	Like, do you know Ryan's fighting Devin?
	Do you know the names of them fighting each other?
	Do you know what I watched Haney play?
	I know Ryan Haney are fighting.
	I've never watched, I've talked shit to Devin Haney.
	I've talked shit to a lot of different boxers, Javante Davis.
	So I could name like Javante, Haney, Garcia, Lomenchenko, and Lopez, Tefoma, or whatever.
	I could name those five.
	So, okay, who do you have, Haney or Garcia?
	Are you able to say who you think's going to be?
	No, I've never watched Haney.
	And I should have, I should probably should watch Haney box before I talk shit and say I can knock him out so I can get a better idea.
	But I've never watched him fight.
	I've watched Ryan fight Javante.
	He got hit with a nice body shot.
	I think I've watched Giovante fight a few different times.
	But I'm talking less than probably five fights I've watched.
	Five fights?
	Well, no, because Connor Floyd was super into that one.
	I did watch Tyson Fury versus Francis.
	So I guess I've watched a few here and there, but they're the big ones I'm watching.
	There's been times where Haney fights, and then we do a podcast on Sunday, and we'll have our producer kind of write a little list of notes and be like, hey, talk about Haney's fight.
	I'm like, I had zero idea he fought.
	And I'm not, I mean, it sounds like I'm stabbing or throwing shade, but I don't know if boxing does a good job promoting it.
	I just don't know if, yeah, I don't know.
	I think it's just a different community.
	You know, if you're interested, you're going to find it.
	If you're not, you're not.
	I've met all these guys know I'm fighting Saturday night.
	Oh, they know.
	They know.
	So going back to what you were saying about fighting and knowing who to fight next, is any of your strategies, strategy to take kind of like Mayweather took?
	Because in boxing, the difference between boxing and UFC in UFC, you're pretty much choosing your fights, right?
	Like Dana's not calling your guy or your manager.
	Dana's calling you, right?
	Everyone's different.
	I don't have a manager.
	I deal with all my own stuff.
	I sit down with the UFC.
	I negotiate my own deals with Emron, who doesn't consider himself as a manager.
	He does a lot for me, but he's more of a mentor, advisor.
	But I do all my own deals with UFC.
	You're saying the gentleman I met, the Pakistani friend from LA?
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Super lucky to have met him and he owns Sanibel.
	That's how we met, he offered to sponsor me back in 2017, early on.
	And so we've had a really good.
	This is a true believer.
	He fully believes in the product of it.
	He believed in it before a lot of people saw it.
	Hard to find guys like that.
	Very, very, very hard.
	Rare, rare.
	But yeah, I do do all my, I sit down with UFC, but as far as picking your opponents, no, not really.
	I mean, after certain fights, you can make good call-outs.
	If you sit on the mic and you say what, you know, and you say something and people get behind it, like you can pick your fights in that sense.
	But as far as like, hey, Dana, I want to fight this guy.
	Like, if it makes sense for the division, after I fought Pedro Munoz, it was went to a no-contest, which I count that as a win.
	I called out Peter Jan, who was ranked number one.
	I was ranked number 11.
	That doesn't usually happen, but literally two through 10, these guys were all fighting each other.
	So 11-1 made sense-ish because it was me, because I was, you know, had a pretty good name.
	Peter Jan accepted the fight, which he didn't have to do because he thought he was going to run through me.
	And so, yeah, but in a sense, you can pick your fights, get a good call out, put on a good performance, you know.
	So, are you glad Peter took that fight when you 11-1, you called on him out and he said, let's fight?
	Yeah, 100%.
	I mean, there was no one, the entire division was booked up.
	It was pretty much, you know, I could fight for the title if I go out there and put a fight on.
	So, I got a question for you.
	So, if Umar does something that you did, would you take his fight?
	Well, I'm the champ right now.
	So, if they offer, no, not right now.
	It's not a big enough fight.
	It's a dangerous fight.
	He's very skilled, but he has to, it's not a big fight.
	Me versus Murab is a bigger fight.
	Me versus Corey is a bigger fight.
	Me versus Ely is a bigger fight.
	There's too many.
	Do you think so?
	You think those are bigger fights?
	Than Umar right now?
	Yes.
	He's only like 2-0 in USC or something.
	He's only fought a couple times.
	The name Nirmagmanoff, that's huge for him.
	So he doesn't have to do that much more work.
	I don't feel like Dana could promote the hell out of this.
	I feel like if, there it is, UFC ESPN, 2021.
	One, two, three, four.
	Four, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I feel like that would be a fight that would be promoted.
	It will be.
	It will be a big fight, but it's got to be, he's got to go out there.
	And he will.
	He'll go out there and put good guys out.
	He'll go beat good guys.
	That's going to build it.
	How old is he?
	Are you guys about the same age or is he older?
	I saw 31 or is it 28?
	Okay, so one year apart.
	So a little bit younger, yeah.
	Yeah.
	You're 94.
	He's 96.
	Damn.
	And you're October.
	So yeah, about the year and a half, two years apart.
	Old Russia.
	Yeah.
	Is there part of your, is there part of your fighting?
	By the way, with camps, like, do you, is there a camp where you say that's the most respected camp to go up against?
	Or is it more individual rather than camp?
	I think the Russians right now, the Dagestanians are kind of looked at as like the killers of the, you know, those are the guys.
	But as far as camp camps go, I'm not super familiar with like, oh, this guy trains here, this guy trains here.
	I don't really pay attention to that.
	You don't pay attention to that.
	Got him.
	These are the bear fighters, right?
	These are the people that are wrestling bears at nine years old.
	Yeah.
	Like, who does that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	When I talk to Khabiban, I'm asking him, like, we had him at the event.
	Yeah.
	I watched that.
	Yeah, and I'm asking him on like the mindset.
	Do you, okay, so for example, let me ask this other question from you.
	Just curious.
	You seem like a fun guy.
	Okay.
	You seem like a guy that probably is fun to party with, right?
	You seem like a guy that, you know, maybe not today, maybe a few years ago, but you seem like the kind of guy that if we went and partied, we're probably going to have a good time.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Sunday.
	Sunday.
	Sunday morning.
	Yes.
	11.
	That's right.
	Russ is performing.
	So, so, okay.
	So do you think that one of the biggest edges these guys have is that there is no alcohol, pure training, seven days a week, no partying, no clubbing, and the standards they have, the expectations they have, the pride in winning for their country.
	Do you think that it's their biggest edge they have over their competitors where to them, they don't take their competitors seriously because they're like, you're just not willing to sacrifice at the levels that we are.
	You think that's what their edge is?
	I think it could be argued, debatable, but I do think life's about balance.
	And I know for me, I go 100% discipline in camp.
	And then out of camp, I go a little bit, you know, go to the club a little bit here and there.
	I never get too crazy.
	But there's a level of balance that I feel like is very important.
	And I feel like could even be argued as more of an advantage balancing it.
	I think so.
	Because you get into camp and you, you know, camp.
	I'm ready to be out of camp after camp.
	I'm ready to kind of chill out.
	But if I have to just get right back to the same shit after I fucking just go out there and knock this dude out, I want to enjoy a little bit.
	I want to be go off, you know, it's a pendulum, right?
	It's like so disciplined.
	Then you have a little freedom and then he comes back and it's like kind of this balancing act where these guys are just constantly I mean, crazy question for you know.
	Crazy question for you.
	Crazy question for you.
	Okay, we have a software that comes out.
	Okay, we're in this software.
	Okay, we can enter in sugar Shawn O'mally okay, and on the right side of the software we can minimize the percentage and hours of partying and maybe being the casual side, and then increase the level of preparation and discipline, kind of like how these guys are doing it.
	What if we ran this simulation and we're sitting there and we have this technology underground in a vault, right?
	That we go into.
	Literally, we're not going to be able to do that.
	Literally where we are right now.
	But I press a button.
	This thing opens up.
	We get in the elevator.
	We go 40 stories down.
	Our guy enters it in.
	We say, hey, can you run a number here?
	If Sean went on a five-year run, 100% obsessed discipline, the only other distraction is his kid, his family, and that's it.
	Zero party, alcohol, nothing.
	Run it and let's see what this looks like.
	And then it goes to 2030.
	Let's just say, let's go on a six-year run, 2030.
	And it shows at 2030, Sean O'Malley.
	Burnt out.
	No, no.
	But I'm asking you, it shows that at that age, 2030, you choose to retire, 35 years old.
	But you retire fully undefeated.
	You've made $100 million by 35 years old.
	You didn't do it by 40.
	You actually did it by 30.
	And not only did you make $100 million, you made $150 by 35 years old.
	But you missed out on a lot of partying.
	You missed out on a lot of other things.
	You missed out on a lot of that stuff.
	And you end up becoming as somebody that people say, dude, this guy, you know, for this class and that class, for sure, he's on a Mount Rushmore of that.
	But pound for pound, this guy's a top five, top 10 of all time.
	Let's just say these are the types of discussions.
	Because, you know, top 10 is a very big deal.
	People follow the sport.
	It's a very hard list to get onto under the top 10.
	I'm not even saying top five.
	I think 10 is a hard list.
	Then the other side, we score it even 20%.
	We bring it down and we increase 20% of the party inside.
	And we look at that and it says, yeah, you know, it's a top 30 and had a few losses and it just, you know, he ended up his career.
	Here's good fighting.
	It's going to be with that, if that technology exists, obviously it doesn't.
	If it did exist, would that at all influence you to say, yeah, you know what?
	I'm done with partying for six years because I want to have this legacy.
	Or you'd say, I don't give a shit.
	I'm still going to go the same way.
	No, I wouldn't party.
	I don't, I think I'm going to get on that one list the way I'm doing life right now.
	I don't party that much.
	It's not like that crazy.
	You know, it's after fights.
	It's like after a fight, you're not going to get right back into camp anyway for the most part.
	Ideally, I go out there, KO Cheeto, and I'm fighting in September.
	So give me a, you know, a month off, month and a half off.
	And when I say off, it's like, depends what kind of injuries.
	If I can train, I'm going to go in and train.
	It's not like I'm just sitting at the club, you know, and then I wake up and I'm like, where the fuck am I?
	And then I go back to the club again.
	No, no, the only reason I'm bringing this up, only reason I'm bringing this up is because to the average person, when you're explaining the Khabib mindset and the way they train or the Kobe mindset, like AI just said a nice tribute.
	I don't know if you saw the tribute that came out.
	It's going viral.
	It's everywhere.
	He made a sick tribute about Kobe.
	And Kobe would tell the story of, yeah, you know, after the game, AI was like, hey, go to the club.
	So Kobe drives me to the club.
	We have dinner, then drops him up at the club and says, hey, Sako, what are you going to do?
	I'm going back to the gym.
	For what?
	I'm going to go.
	I missed a few my shots here in the corner.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Sounds good.
	So AI probably partied much better.
	Probably smashed way more, probably has better stories, probably has a lot of things.
	But top five, Mount Rushmore, you know, Kobe's going to be part of that discussion.
	And this doesn't mean a burnout because, you know, it's the idea of like when Kobe, I don't know if one of the articles Kobe talked about things going to change with LeBron when he has kids.
	And it did, right?
	Where it's kind of like life changes.
	You talked about this as well when, you know, when you started having a kid, you're like, what am I doing?
	Why am I going through this?
	What am I doing with this one?
	Like, you're naturally making some evolution to your own game.
	I'm just talking about would a Sean O'Malley probably, I don't know, people could easily say the most exciting fighter today to watch.
	Okay.
	And that's not like overselling it, right?
	You're super exciting.
	Not only the weight class, we can put, you know, comms out, we can put all these other names that, okay, these are also exciting guys to watch.
	Would you be willing to go to the to the you know Dagestan, like the Khabib level of discipline for the next six years to lock in a spot as a top 10?
	Would that be worth it to you?
	That level of discipline.
	Yeah, 100%.
	And when it comes, I mean, we don't know Habib's, I mean, we can assume he's, we don't, you never know what people do behind closed doors.
	Not accusing any of those Dagestanians, but I've heard, you know, it's like people have been there.
	It's not like, you know, they're human.
	They're not fucking sitting at home when they're not doing anything.
	No, no, for sure.
	They're human.
	I would argue my level of discipline in campus just as you think at their level?
	You're thinking your mind is at their level?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Can I challenge you on that?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Just again, you don't have to receive it.
	I'm just kind of, we're talking openly anyway.
	So, you know, you know, early on in my career when I was coming up in an industry that nobody watches, it's called insurance.
	There is no highlights.
	Okay.
	Nobody says, look at the way he signed that contract.
	So wow.
	Tonight, Vincent O'Shadow signed 17 policies at this event.
	No one gives a shit.
	But there's an element of competitiveness because it pays very well.
	You can make a few hundred million dollars.
	You can make tens of millions of dollars.
	It's a very lucrative industry.
	And there were moments where I would ask myself while I'm going through it, what is the difference between the edge of having confidence, cocky, and blind spots for me to miss out or not miss out.
	So for example, you'd run appointments, you'd come home at 11 o'clock, you're like, I know for a fact I outwork my competitor.
	And you were wrong.
	You know, like, oh, shit.
	Versus like a Ali versus Frazier back in the days.
	It's like, hey, man, I'm training at 4:30.
	Why?
	Because I know that guy's up.
	So the mentality of saying, I think that guy's up earlier than me.
	I think that guy's prepared more than me.
	I think versus, no, I got him.
	I know for a fact.
	That balance, it's not just UFC, it's anything in life.
	It's business, it's boxing, it's sports, it's Hollywood, it's all of that stuff, right?
	Where Rock has an element of that.
	You know, Rock, when he first went and met with his agents, had dinner, lunch with his agent the other day, spent a couple hours, two and a half hours together, and a great conversation.
	And when Rock first met with them, they said, who do you want to be?
	Have you heard the story, what he said to them?
	He says, I want to be Will Smith, but bigger.
	Okay.
	And they said, really?
	It says, yeah, I want to be Will Smith, but bigger.
	And guess what?
	He became bigger.
	He's the fifth most followed person on Instagram.
	I don't know how many followers he's got.
	400 million followers?
	I don't know what he's done.
	I mean, it's crazy shit when you think about it, right?
	Insane.
	How many followers does Rock have on Instagram?
	Can you Google this?
	Insane.
	I don't know what the number is, but what is the number?
	Yeah.
	397 million followers.
	What is that worth?
	He's already a billionaire.
	They haven't announced being a billionaire, but he's already a billionaire in the making.
	No one's questioning that, right?
	So I wonder what that's worth.
	Is he at a level of focus that's different than his peers slightly more?
	Is he in the back of his mind saying, Hey, I bet Arnold was doing more at this phase?
	Because, you know, Arnold would be one of the guys that he wanted to pass up.
	I bet Wilson's doing this.
	I bet that guy's doing this.
	I bet this guy's doing this.
	That's the part where how do you balance thinking, I'm already on track, I know I'm doing versus maybe I'm not.
	Maybe I'm maybe they're more prepared than I am.
	What do you think about this?
	Yeah, I mean, everyone's also so different in a sport like fighting.
	It's like someone could be a little bit more disciplined than the next and then their opponent and still get knocked the fuck out.
	So it's like, I don't think whoever, it's not the who's more disciplined wins in life.
	It's you know, right time, right moment, right preparation.
	But it adds an element to it, right?
	It gives you an edge.
	I feel like I feel an advantage going into fights that I'm living healthier, that I'm living a better quality life than my opponents.
	I do feel that.
	And I felt like that for a long time.
	As far as I got a nutritionist, Dan Garner, who's been analyzing my blood, stool, saliva, hair, piss, all my stuff multiple times a year, making sure I'm eating the right diets so I'm not causing inflammation.
	I'm not eating stuff that's causing inflammation so I can train more.
	I feel like that's a huge advantage.
	Cold plunge at my house, sauna at my house, hot tub, red light, PEMF machine, shockwave machine.
	I have all this stuff at my house that I use daily.
	Sick.
	And I've been doing it for years.
	I've been on the cold plunge wave for six, seven years before everyone had a cold plunge.
	So I feel like I've been doing a lot of this stuff for a long time that a lot of people are kind of starting to do now to where I truly do believe it gives me an advantage.
	And the same thing with discipline and all that.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you know, that's the part about competition and capitalism, right?
	Because at the end of the day, it comes like I got four kids.
	All right.
	I got 12, 10, 7, 2.
	Okay.
	I don't have to tell my 10-year-old, that guy is just freaking maniacal, right?
	Like, we know how I said, how does somebody become a fighter?
	Hey, either father, bad relationship, either bullied or either gangster or either natural athlete or something like that, right?
	Those are typically the reasons why somebody ends up becoming one.
	We don't have a gang in our community, right?
	We live on an island.
	It's tough to have a gang in the community we live in.
	But you can tell this guy's got a chip that he wants to do it for a reason.
	He wants to fight?
	Well, he does jiu-jitsu.
	He's been doing it for two and a half years right now.
	He's obsessed with soccer.
	And when I tell you obsessed, I mean absolutely obsessed with soccer.
	He scored another goal yesterday, by the way.
	We had a sick.
	Did you record this one?
	No, I didn't record this one.
	At this point, I'm missing too many of these.
	But I respect that.
	You're in the moment.
	Yeah, but the biggest thing is, you know how the market works?
	Man, sometimes it takes us 10, 20 years to realize what we were doing behind closed doors.
	There's one thing that never lies.
	The market will never lie.
	It will never, ever lie.
	We can claim, well, let me tell you what I'm doing behind closed doors.
	Let me tell you what I'm doing.
	The market is eventually going to be like, dude, he was right.
	Or the market's going to be like, no, he wasn't right.
	You know, like right now, I had Ryan on a couple of weeks ago and I'm watching what he's doing.
	I'm like, what is he?
	I don't even know what he's, I'm concerned for him.
	I'm sincerely concerned for this guy and what some of the stuff he's posting.
	Yeah.
	Some of the stuff he's talking.
	I don't know if you're following any of this stuff that he's, I don't think you are.
	Did you see the reason?
	Some of this stuff just doesn't make I think he's he's a young kid, 25.
	Yeah.
	Good looking kid, made a lot of money.
	No, we're not taught how to be famous.
	I slowly over the years, 21, 22, 23, made a little bit more money at a time, got a little bit more popular at a time.
	And this dude's, you know, making millions of dollars, 25 years old.
	Pride doesn't have good people around him.
	That's one thing I pride myself on.
	Is everybody in that room over there that's watching this next door is just good quality fucking people that are, you know, there's not one person over there that doesn't help me in a certain spot to where he, you know, hanging out with maybe not the right crew.
	I don't know personally because I haven't seen it, but I'm assuming, you know, I very well could see myself being that guy with the wrong people around me.
	And it's, you know, we're not taught how to be famous.
	I know you guys have some few going back who would win this fight.
	He would not could.
	What feedback would you give him?
	Let's just say if he's watching this, what feedback would he's not in your space?
	He's not in your industry.
	What feedback from experience would you give him?
	What you just said right now is very powerful because he probably relates to it.
	What feedback would you give him to make some adjustments, if any?
	Yeah, I mean, I think he has kids.
	It's like my number one thing that I think is the coolest thing about me is how much time I get to spend with Elena.
	Like I get to, I don't work 40 hours a week.
	I don't, you know, when I go to the gym, she comes with me.
	Like, I get to be around Elena a lot, and that's where I feel the most peace and most like happiness.
	If you're not sleeping good, if you're staying out late, like sleep's the number one thing, hands down for anxiety, depression, anger, any of that thing.
	I believe sleep's the number one thing.
	Sleeping right, eating right.
	I'm sure he's probably eating right.
	I know he's got a big fight coming up, so maybe he's sleeping good, eating good.
	But yeah, I'd say just being around the right people is the number is one of the biggest things to just have a good head on your shoulders.
	Yeah, I just see too many weird chaos going on in his life.
	Like, you know, could be a phase.
	But even that, even that, even that clip that you showed when he's on that, on the you have talking about he wants to fight him.
	He didn't look, he was like tweaking a little bit.
	Like, he looked a little weird right there.
	You gotta, you gotta find me and me and my coach Tim did a skit of him and Oscar De La Hoya in the behind the scenes at the MAR.
	Did you see that?
	Could you pull that up by chance?
	Like, hey, there we go.
	This is Ryan and Oscar Dela Hoya before they went on the show.
	Okay.
	Ryan, if you make money, we're in debt from betting, brother.
	Oscar, he's like, fuck you, Sean up, honestly.
	You could fight Emma.
	You could beat whoever you want.
	You could beat John Jones.
	Seriously, I could wrestle.
	Wrestle your security guard.
	Show him.
	Prove them.
	You're an athlete.
	You're natural.
	You can do whatever, brother.
	Let's get it on.
	Hold on.
	Fuck, I'll fight Dana.
	Oscar.
	Oh, it's going to be a shit, bro.
	They're beaten.
	So, yeah, because Oscar's talking about fighting Data.
	I mean, they're clearly doing a little booger sugar and everyone, you know, it's all fun and game.
	But I think he could be going through a phase.
	I think he's trying to fit in.
	He's trying to sell a pay-per-view.
	I get it.
	There's sometimes I want to be crazy and say some shit that I might regret to, you know, sell a pay-per-view.
	Like, I could be a character, do say some shit just to, and I think he's in that position right now to where he wants to be the most famous guy in the world.
	But it's like, you got to slowly, you got to, you know, do that by knocking people out.
	Do that by, you know, let the work show and say, which he has been doing good.
	You know, he's been fighting.
	He obviously lost to Javante Davis.
	He's 5'4.
	Did you see this?
	Did you see this?
	I think this was yesterday, Pat.
	Something came from Ryan Garcia.
	It was on his Instagram.
	It was like something cryptic where he's like, oh, and he's trying to run out of a room.
	And then apparently nobody's heard from this guy.
	Did you can you show up, Pat?
	I don't know what this is.
	It's just him and this Ryan Garcia.
	And it's somebody messaging, we got him.
	R.I.P. Ryan Garcia.
	Oh, fuck.
	No, hold on.
	I don't know how to do it.
	Yeah, this is trolling his body.
	But it's you think he's trolling?
	Was it live on IG?
	It could be his trolling his audience.
	That could be his.
	He's trolling this audience.
	Look, what is this here?
	And then this one said, we got him, boys.
	Ryan Garcia, R.I.P., bitch.
	Dude, all this was literally all over social media.
	This is on his account.
	That video was on his, and then somebody posted Ryan Garcia, RIP.
	There's a part of this where he may be trolling and just acting, you know, for whatever reason, like to bring attention to the fight, which, by the way, I will tell you, when him and Haney are facing each other, I like it.
	I mean, it's good.
	It's selling the fight.
	It's exciting.
	But, but there's a, I don't know.
	I mean, look, when I watched Mayweather selling a fight, okay, the way Mayweather sold a fight.
	Legend.
	Legend, right?
	But guess what?
	Mayweather never sold the fight in a Mayweather's in his ear.
	So there's no way in the world Mayweather probably supports this behavior.
	I don't think he does.
	Agreed.
	And if Mayweather's in your ear and you're doing this, by the way, partially, I would be like, hey, Mayweather, if you're in this guy's ears, what kind of influence do you have over this guy?
	So I bet I get, listen, if I'm in someone's ear and they behave like this, I would publicly, if I've had multiple conversation and this continues, I would publicly say, hey, guys, you know what Dana would typically do?
	Dana would publicly say, no, no, he's not listening to anybody.
	We can't get him to listen to anybody.
	And he's done that many, many times because Dana loses credibility.
	So the more he acts this way, Mayweather's losing credibility.
	I don't know.
	I'm just not liking it.
	And I'm only saying this because I like this kid.
	I actually really like this kid.
	I don't like what he's, what I texted him earlier.
	I'm like, hey, I don't know.
	I'm not, I don't know what's going on with him.
	I don't want to see this behavior taking place.
	I think 420, there should be a good fight.
	It's in what, five, six weeks, six weeks, a little over six weeks?
	That's crazy if he's acting like this.
	Six weeks out?
	This doesn't make any sense to me to act like this six weeks out.
	And he can actually beat Haney.
	You know what the record is fighting each other?
	They fought six times.
	It's three and three.
	Oh, as amateurs?
	Yeah.
	They fought each other six times.
	It's three and three.
	That's a very good storyline.
	So this is, you can build this up and get it in a way to go that the audience is going to want to see it.
	But I don't know.
	I just don't like what.
	Sad.
	Yeah.
	Hopefully.
	Again, it could just be a phase.
	I mean, you go through phases.
	Everyone goes through phases, but hopefully you don't get too deep in that phase that you can't come out.
	CBC boxers do it all the time.
	I mean, famous people in general just go off the deep end, never really come back.
	Well, De La Joy went through it.
	Yeah.
	De La Joy went through it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He still is.
	By the way, De La Joy against Dana.
	This is not a question if they fight.
	This is not the question if they fight.
	This is, who do you think has a bigger gang?
	It's a gank.
	Not a gank.
	Gang.
	Okay.
	Where the fuck is gang?
	Are you setting me up here, motherfucker?
	What's a gank?
	It's like a Russian word for your dangling.
	What I know who's got a bigger gank.
	Who's got a bigger gang?
	Meaning, who would fight for who more?
	Who's Dana, hands down easily?
	I mean, yeah.
	Dana's a fucking legend.
	I love being in the UFC, being able to be on podcasts, be able to say a lot of shit, even if I shouldn't say it.
	I do say it and I have said it.
	And I didn't get in trouble from Dana.
	And, you know, NFL, NBA, you can't say certain things.
	You don't really see these guys coming on here talking about real shit.
	They're very, you know, careful with what they tweet, what they say.
	And UFC gives us a platform to be able to be us, be free.
	And that's fucking sweet.
	So, yeah, Dana's the man.
	Dana and Hunter completely changed my life.
	They even gave me an.
	I wanted to be a professional athlete.
	Obviously, I want to be in the NFL, be in the NBA.
	It didn't work out.
	It's like, okay, well, they have weight classes.
	You know, little dudes, 135ers can fight and, you know, sell out arenas and be seen by millions of people.
	And so given this platform, obviously Hunter, Dana, fucking, it's, it's, it's crazy that I get to do this.
	So yeah, those guys are the legends.
	Yeah, Dana is the, I've said this, the greatest commissioner we've seen.
	I think to me, he is the best commissioner.
	Lava, the other day, the guy's asking like six weeks ago, hey, you know, you have your guys on a leash.
	He says, leash?
	What kind of, remember this whole thing about the leash conversation?
	Yeah, with Strickland.
	They were talking about recently.
	Yeah, it's about six weeks ago.
	Yeah, they were like, so you, some reports right here.
	Yeah, this is it.
	You obviously give a long leash to your fighters about, you know, what they can say when they are up there with a UFC microphone and you are getting into territory of homophobia, transphobia.
	I don't give anybody a leash.
	Well, I'm saying you a leash instead.
	Like free speech.
	Control what people say.
	Going to tell people what to believe.
	Going to tell people.
	I don't fucking tell any other human being what to say, what to think, and there's no leashes on any of them.
	What is your question?
	I was asking that question.
	I'll move on now.
	Dana.
	That's probably a good idea.
	Dana's a comedian.
	But honestly, even being around Dana off camera just gets you fired up.
	He's one of those people that you can just be around and you want to improve your businesses.
	You want to improve what you're doing.
	Just being around that dude.
	He's constantly passionate about whatever it is.
	And he just gets you fired up.
	Like, that's the guy you want to work with.
	It's like, listen, just be you.
	Just obviously know that you're working for, you know, you're representing the brand.
	But as a man, go do what you want to do.
	They've never told me what to say, what not to say, how to sell fight, who to call out, who to do this.
	They just, you know, be you and we'll be us.
	And we'll fucking, if we work, we work.
	By the way, I also don't see Dana not calling out his guys and saying, what are you doing?
	Like, I see him also behind closed doors making that phone call.
	Oh, I think so.
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	Direct phone calls.
	Yeah.
	I definitely think he got it.
	Like a Sean Strickland might get like, like, Sean, I love you.
	I get it.
	Just a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Slow it down just a little bit.
	Yeah.
	I definitely see him doing that.
	But, Sean, I want to ask you a question.
	This totally random because I read this and I was like, wait a minute.
	I definitely have to ask Sean this question.
	So you went to Mexico to get for stem cell for your knee.
	No, dude, I told Pat Pass like, no way this didn't happen.
	So you went there and then apparently somebody was talking about stem cell for like the penis and they were like the penis, the game.
	And then apparently it helps with stamina and girth and everything.
	I have two questions.
	Number one, did it work?
	Number two, do you still have that doctor's phone number?
	Because I'm trying to come up.
	Well, yeah, so we're, Tim and I were in Tijuana getting stem cells.
	I was getting stem cells on my knee.
	And one of the guys there's like, yeah, I'm getting my dick.
	And we're like, what the fuck?
	Did you get stem cells on your dick?
	He's like, yeah, it's supposed to help you last longer.
	You'll be girthier.
	And I was like, and they are like, we'll do it for free.
	I'm like, ah, fuck.
	In Mexico.
	In Mexico.
	That's crazy.
	CPI stem cells.
	But then I remember I heard, fuck, who was it?
	It was this Ben Greenfield.
	I remember hearing Ben Greenfield talk about us, and he's a pretty smart biohacker dude.
	Like he's very up to date with shit.
	And I remember he said he did it.
	Yeah.
	And because we were debating, Tim did it too.
	We were debating.
	I was like, fuck, should we do it?
	And we ended up doing it.
	So yeah, just getting a needle in your fucking.
	Dude, does it hurt?
	Obviously, I didn't feel good.
	It's just a little, you know, a little needle and boom.
	And it didn't hurt too bad.
	Didn't feel great.
	South or no, you know?
	No.
	Although you're awake.
	Oh, snap.
	And I had a female doctor do it who was pretty attractive.
	So it was just a bad, it was probably just like, yo.
	Working with.
	Did it work?
	Does it work?
	I think it's probably like anything where it's like you need, you need more, probably.
	But I didn't feel my dick was bruised for a little bit.
	But it's like a, you know, a couple hours.
	You have like an ice pack.
	Like a post fight, like a post-fight.
	I just, I don't know why.
	First of all, this guy at one of our events, I don't know if I told you this story.
	So he calls, he says, hey, I watch the way you walk.
	I've been following the content.
	I want to gift you something.
	I'm like, okay, cool.
	What do you want to give me?
	You watch the way I walk.
	He says, I want to give you some stem cells.
	I said, you want to give me some stem cells?
	Yeah, I'm based out of, you know, Beverly Hills, all this stuff.
	Like, all right, so I'm going to LA for a wedding, George's wedding.
	Okay.
	So we go there.
	They, you know, NAD, they give the NAD, they do all this stuff.
	And then he puts, first, the doctor came in, anesthesia, I'm knocked out.
	Jen's in the room.
	They recorded 80 million stem cells in my lower back that I got.
	What?
	Yeah.
	80 million stem cells.
	Each treatment was 10 million.
	They put 80 million into it.
	And I walked out very weird, sleeping.
	I couldn't sleep all night.
	I don't know why.
	Maybe it was the NAD combination with it.
	I just couldn't see.
	Coming out of that, Predazo.
	Probably you're right.
	And it was late at night, by the way, when we did that because I landed in LA, went to his place, did that, boom, got back to the hotel at like one o'clock in the morning.
	So that's probably not a good idea to do it at a time like that.
	But to me, if you want to ask me, did the stem cells do anything to my lower back to make progress?
	Zero.
	No, nothing changed.
	No.
	Nothing to I've heard mixed reviews, but to me, no possible.
	I've had good, I've done a waste of well in Austin, Texas.
	They've done stem cells on my knee on Tim's shoulder.
	They did it on Tim's Achilles.
	He just tore his Achilles like 12 weeks ago and he's walking around really good.
	12 weeks.
	Yeah.
	I think, I mean, it might have even been, yeah, 10 weeks ago, something like that, but he's doing really well.
	I've had good benefits from stem cells.
	He's having good benefits from it, but I've heard mixed feelings, but mostly I've heard good things about it.
	So here's one of the guys I was talking to here.
	They said the best stem cells you can get are not in America.
	The best stem cells you get has to be outside because the regulation here doesn't allow it to be the most natural, potent thing to put in your body.
	And you have to be overseas to do it, whether it's like, you know, who was the guy?
	We had a guy on a podcast.
	You know who I'm talking about.
	I said, so one of you, he said, look, man, I want to come to the podcast, but I just came from Turkey.
	I said, what are you doing in Turkey?
	He said, well, Turkey is the best place to go to get a hair transplant, right?
	That's why I'm in Turkey.
	I'm like, okay, I don't know that.
	Great.
	What's the business model?
	25,000, whatever it is.
	And okay, cool.
	Germany, I think Kobe used to go to Germany to get his knee stem cells in it.
	Not in the States.
	In Germany.
	So maybe part of that is the fact that in States is not the highest potent quality somewhere else.
	I've heard people argue this back and forth, and I'm going to probably not butcher it, but I don't know.
	I've heard that that's not necessarily the truth.
	They can put way more stem cells in you out of the country than they can here, but there's no science that says more is necessarily better.
	Because if you only need a certain amount, say you need 10 million, they put in the United States, they put 10 million in you, but in another country, they put 40 million in you.
	There's no real science benefits that 40 is better than 10.
	And then the 40 there is the stem cells copied rather than the 10 million you're getting in the United States are all 10 million, like they're the fresh compared to the 40 million is copied of the 10 million.
	So it's, I've heard it argued both ways.
	But the one lady that I was talking to in Texas, and I'm sure everyone, you know, in Texas, they're going to say it's better.
	But the lady in Texas, Waste of Well, that was explaining it to me made the most sense that not necessarily more is better.
	Well, I mean, in Texas, it's becoming even more and more.
	And one of the Texas is a sports state.
	So, you know, it's always anywhere there's a Florida same thing here, California.
	But one of my executives, I'm not going to give the position because my guys don't know what this is, because he bracked about stem cells, that it really helped them out in many different ways, including one of the ways you were attempting to do.
	It worked for him positively in a major way.
	But he said the best way to do it is to get pulled stem cells actually from your bone.
	They literally drill you in the bone and you smell the drilling on your spine.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	What?
	Yeah, type in stem cells from your body.
	Type in stem cells and then put spine spine.
	It's like Mike Tyson saying, spinal.
	It's my, I broke my back.
	Where does it say that they get it?
	Drill from your back.
	There it is.
	Injected stem cells calls for.
	No, anyway, so there's a so yeah, so they get it from there.
	It's the best one, and then they can put it anywhere in your body, and it's the most potent way of doing it because it's your own.
	So, the body is not having to convert somebody else.
	I mean, he was explaining to me in a, and he's he's one of the most detailed guys.
	Zoom in a little bit on what that's saying, Rob, right there.
	Bone marrow.
	Oh, dude.
	Yeah, there you go.
	There you go.
	Bone marrow is a spongy material that fills the bones.
	These stem cells develop into the red blood cells, white blood platellas, and red blood cells contain generalism.
	White blood cells are part of the immune system and so on.
	Yeah.
	So, again, this is why we are in a different business than this.
	We let the professionals do this.
	Yeah.
	We'll let the professionals do this.
	But that is what the last conversation was.
	So, Vinny, are you convinced that you're going to go ahead and do that?
	Is that what your plan is?
	I'm going to see if he has the phone number at the Mexican.
	The Pecker one?
	Yeah, why not?
	Yeah.
	I mean, hey, Rob, what are you laughing about?
	You don't want to come?
	You're going to let me go to freaking, I mean, the border, it's a crazy situation over there, but I'd still, you know, why not?
	That's what I'm basically trying to say.
	Maybe even, maybe even you put like a before and after pictures.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Because by the way, my back is in bad shape too.
	So I'll get a twofer.
	Do you eat healthy?
	I eat very healthy.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Oh, guys, guys, that question too.
	Because, Sean, you used to eat a lot of junk food back.
	Oh, yeah.
	And so you said it hurt your back.
	Oh, yeah.
	It messed up your back.
	I mean, it messed up anything that was, you know, I'm going to try to wrestle and spar, and then I go home and eat a hot pocket and some fucking Cheetos.
	It's just pure inflammation.
	There's no nutrients in that food.
	You know, it's just going straight to those injuries, causing inflammation.
	So, and then, and then you started to go, so you went vegan for a little bit.
	You just, and it was, it was messed up, but then you said you went back to me because it helped you feel uh, felt like man, your energy, and your everything.
	So you're back to me, oh, yeah, but you eat the good, grass-fed, grass-finished.
	You don't play games with any of that stuff.
	Yeah, yeah, I've switched to grass-fed, grass-finished.
	And a lot of the shit I learned on fucking podcasts, listening to Rogan talk.
	It's like, okay, you can get grass-fed at your local store, but it's not grass-finished.
	And it's, you know, so there's a big difference and blah, blah, blah.
	So, yeah, I try to just keep up to date with that stuff: grass-fed, grass-finished beef, and try to eat as healthy as possible.
	Any other questions you got about to stem cell your health?
	Because I know Dr. O'Malley's here, so take advantage of this.
	My mom was a nurse.
	Oh, she was.
	Yeah, perfect shit.
	Perfect.
	My dad is a cop, so I can.
	I'm saying he can arrest you or prescribe you something.
	One of the two.
	Anyways, it's great having you on.
	We're going to see you this Saturday.
	We're looking forward to it.
	Enjoy the show.
	And even more than anything else, excited about the next five years to see what's going to happen with you.
	Really excited forward rooting because I think the game, the fight game, needs a doesn't need it.
	It's always more exciting because what Dana's produced and what the guys have produced, yeah, I'll never forget what Michael said.
	It's the best compliment he ever gave to the game.
	I loved it.
	When LeBron first came to the league, LeBron was being interviewed about Michael and all this stuff.
	He says, I believe the NBA needs to permanently retire the number 23 jersey.
	We're like, oh, wow, what a noble thing to say.
	And then they go ask Michael about it.
	Do you know the story of what Michael said?
	No.
	They go ask Michael.
	They say, so, Michael, LeBron earlier said that he feels they need to retire your jersey permanently, that no one on any team can ever wear the number 23.
	Jesus.
	You want to know what Michael's answer was?
	Michael says that's very kind of him.
	He says, but the game is bigger than one player.
	I'm just one player.
	Wow.
	What a freaking game.
	Wow.
	Because the league, if it's a real good league and good guys come after, it's their job to make the league better.
	You're going to get judged on making a league better.
	100%.
	And I'm excited to see who's going to make the league better next.
	You're definitely one of the guys that makes us spend the money to go out there and keep watching this fight.
	And you got fancier man rooting for you.
	Appreciate you for coming out.
	Gang, we're doing a home team podcast.
	I believe, Rob, are we home team tomorrow?
	Tomorrow morning, we'll do today.
	This week we're doing five days podcast.
	And Friday, we have Chris Cuomo and Candace Owens at the club that sold out very quickly.
	But we will see you guys every day this week.
	Take care, everybody.

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