Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana are joined by comedian Tim Dillon as they discuss rebuilding Ukraine, the release of Jeffrey Epstein's grand jury files, and Diddy being accused of sexual assault.
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1:52 - Tim talks about the $410 billion budget to rebuild Ukraine.
19:30 - Tim talks about the death of Alexei Navalny and whether Vladimir Putin was behind it.
22:35 - Tim explains how the Iraq war changed his mind on geopolitical issues.
25:39 - The evolution of phases Tim went through in his stand-up career.
37:29 - Tim on how talking without restraint helps discover the truth.
40:20- Wall Street Journal reports new CDC guidelines to encourage treating COVID like the flu.
53:47 - Prince Phillip says he wanted to die and come back as a deadly virus as a form of revenge against human overpopulation.
1:03:55 - Chuck Schumer caught on a hot mic talking about "blaming Republicans and MAGA."
1:11:11 - How to fight back against government propaganda.
1:28:20 - Tim explains when the Democrats will replace Joe Biden as a candidate in the 2024 election.
1:43:16 - Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signs bill to release Jeffrey Epstein grand jury files.
1:51:57 - Why are we changing the term from pedophiles to Minor Attracted Persons.
2:06:43 - Diddy is accused of sexually assaulting famous rappers, singers, and producers.
2:14:57 - Shane Gillis returns to Saturday Night Live after being fired.
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Okay, so we rarely do podcasts on Saturday morning, but when we get one of these Wall Street elites from BlackRock that show up, we kind of can't miss out on that opportunity, right?
I mean, when you rebuild the Ukraine, when I was told the great Tim Dylan is coming on Saturday, I said, forget about it.
Last night, I get back chaperoned for Dilly late night, midnight.
We get back.
I said, we got to figure out what's going on with BlackRock.
We got to figure out what's going on with this private equity side.
I mean, listen, the whole story about when I'm reading about this, you know, some people, you know, you hear and part-time comedian, apparently, and you hear these stories.
And think about as a part-time comedian, you become one of the best in the world.
You're touring in the States, in Europe.
You got a big-ass podcast.
Everybody I ask about this private equity guy here today, everybody, and I mean everybody.
It's not a lot of people.
It's 100%.
Everybody loves you.
And then aside from that, you know, some of us who, you know, we try to do our best in life and you try to pay your bills and you want to have a good life.
You want to live a decent life.
How many comedians do you know that have a house in Austin, have a house in the slums of, not India, the slums of the city, LA?
It's Hollywood Hills.
Hollywood Hills.
And by the way, name me one comedian that can say all that.
And they have an estate.
Not a house.
And that's Southampton.
Not a house.
Not a house.
Got it.
Not a house.
An estate in Southampton's.
Connected with all these BlackRock people.
We want to get to the bottom of it today.
With that being said, the great Tim Dylan is in the house.
Thank you so much.
I love investing.
And I love, you know, I love opportunities wherever they are, wherever they are.
If we're built, you know, whatever we're building.
You don't discriminate.
I don't discriminate.
If we're doing an amusement park in the Ukraine, wouldn't it be nice to have one?
I think it would be nice.
Oh, my God.
And you'll see one.
And you will absolutely.
You will understand that war in many, many years when you see what we will create there.
And you will go, oh, okay.
And hopefully it's nice.
I hope it.
Hopefully it's lovely.
Hopefully it's nice and it's well done.
And that's what we can hope.
Did you see the number?
Did you see how much they're saying BlackRock?
These guys got the contract.
Chase got the contract $410 billion to rebuild Ukraine.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, this is the whole thing.
I think people were, you know, initially kind of, you know, hoping for some type of peace agreement or negotiation.
And I mean people, meaning the citizens of the country, not BlackRock.
But that has been discouraged at every turn by the U.S., unfortunately, right?
Every time there looks like there's some opening, Tony Blair goes over from the UK or our State Department goes over.
Boris Johnson.
We seem to be, that Tony Blair, Boris Johnson, I apologize.
We seem to be discouraging, and that can only mean to me that we have a beautiful project planned.
A marina, townhouses, uh, commercial real estate.
Like, whatever we, whatever BlackRock has cooked up, it's not nothing.
It can't be nothing because we've avoided an end to this war at every stage.
We've avoided it because we want, uh, you know, and also you got to remember you, the Ukraine, they call it the breadbasket Europe, right?
So, a lot of farmland, a lot of grain.
We're all that's all been promised to U.S. corporations, too.
A lot of it.
It sounds like you're on the inside, you know, this kind of stuff.
And it's great to get it from directly from folks who are dealing with these guys.
Like getting stock tips from like Nancy Pelosi.
We got to be positive.
We got to be positive about it.
Too many people are negative about war.
We got to be positive about war because at the end of the day, it's like it's helps business, right?
It helps lots of things.
Right.
And that's what a way of looking at it.
I never thought about it that way.
Why was I bitching while living in Iran?
You know what?
I was negative about it.
That's a different perspective.
I'm negative on the bombings of Saddam Hussein in 1996.
Maybe that's what I'm saying.
That's why we needed Tim today to give us perspective on war.
Because think about it.
The missiles.
They got to build the missiles.
The cars, the tanks, the uniforms, the bullets.
Big business.
You got work to do.
You got a lot.
You got to wake up.
It's great to see these little fledgling companies like BlackRock State Treat Vanguard.
And they get in bed with the Lockheed Martins of the world and the Boeings of the world.
They're building theme parks in Ukraine, Dylan World.
It's going to be great.
I love it.
It's going to be interesting to see for sure.
By the way, did you see, this is slightly off topic.
I wonder, actually, now that you're saying this, what it's actually going to end up looking like.
Did you see what China did to that one city that they made it look like Champs-Élysées and Paris?
Have you never seen this?
No, put China turns a city into Paris.
China turns a city into Paris.
Okay.
And just go to images, Rob.
Matter of fact, that's the site, the one you went to.
That's the site you went to click on that first one and check this out.
Serious?
Yeah, yeah.
That's in China.
So if you look at the city, go a little lower, go a little lower.
Let's see.
Yeah, that's not France, by the way.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's China.
Okay.
So that's exactly the replica they built in this city.
Okay.
And what is this city called, Rob?
There's a name.
The Buckingham Palace they built as well.
How China launched a billion-dollar Paris dupe with Eiffel Tower and French architecture and why it became a ghost town.
Yeah.
Well, these are one of their ghost cities or ghost towns.
We got a lot of people built up and we've seen what's going on with Tian Grande.
Yeah, Tianju Ducheng.
Tian Ducheng, an easy name to pronounce.
So Tian Ducheng even boasts Persian walkways, cafes, parks, signage.
But you know, the French are assholes.
So he's probably like, listen, stay here, go to the Eiffel Tower.
You don't got to deal with the French.
Take the photos.
Who gives you shit?
Just tell your friends that you were there.
Didn't work through that.
We're going to see how it happens in Ukraine.
Well, they're going to do it.
They're going to do it.
And we're just going to, you know, we'll watch it happen.
Are you on the inside where you're thinking about like buying a penthouse there or something like that?
Like maybe like I look all the time because I just love real estate.
I think it's funny.
I love looking at it all over the world, right?
I think it's great.
And I do look at it in the Ukraine.
Think about it.
You can actually report on what's going on.
Do a podcast with a backdrop.
I look at it in the Ukraine.
There are houses for sale right now in the Ukraine, obviously.
And there's, you know, you can get a realtor on the phone.
You can talk to them.
And, you know, obviously there's a language barrier, but they will sell you a house.
They will sell you a house then.
That's the thing.
And that's what's great about real estate agents.
I mean, I've said nasty things about them.
They're just some of the earth.
They're the worst people in the world.
But they will sell you a home.
They don't care.
There will be, you will hear the sounds of fighting in the background.
You'll hear bombs in the background.
How do you overcome that objection?
You've been a mortgages before, so overcome that objection.
So I ask you, you're a realtor.
I say, but listen, I'm a little concerned.
I have four kids.
Of course.
This bombing, our kids, two-year-olds, not going to go to sleep.
How do you overcome that?
Well, there's no denying, Mr. Bet David, this is a dynamic environment.
And we tend to think it's very exciting.
And I think what you are going to find living here is that there's going to be a big influx of investment coming here from a lot of Western countries.
And you are buying at the bottom.
This is what you have to look at it as.
This is a great investment.
You are buying at, and then it'll be a cover.
And then, but you are, you know, technically, that is the, that is the game there.
They go, you know, the U.S. and Russia are going to fight.
It'll be a stalemate.
Russia might give up.
They might not care anymore.
The U.S. is going to flood it with money.
The Western countries will flood it with money.
And then you're going to, you know, you're going to have an investment in a maybe a NATO country.
Who knows down the road?
I don't think so.
I tend to think that Russia is going to stick it out there and we're going to give up.
And I already think the Ukrainians are starting.
You know, they're all a little blackpilled now because the Ukrainians are actually starting to say, wait a minute, what happened?
We thought America was going to be our partner for years and years and years and years.
But, you know, I think a lot of people are questioning, you know, is the Ukraine going to be a permanent column in the Defense Department budget every single year?
And what is the end game?
And the domestic politics are shifting.
And I think, you know, Israel and Gaza now, this is a thing.
I don't think, you know, we're going to stick with them for the rest of the term.
We are going to probably, I think this aid package is still stalled, from my understanding.
In the house.
It passed.
You're saying the border turned basically to help the border, just Ukraine.
Do you think that's even going to pass any of the foreign aid, any of it?
I don't know.
I don't have the insight into whether it will or not.
I do think that amongst people, the thing about being a comedian is you go around the country, meet all different people, you talk to a lot of different people.
People don't understand what's going on, and they feel like they're not getting the full story.
And when like Kamala Harris goes, a bigger country has invaded a smaller country.
And that's the way the vice president of the United States has chosen to frame this.
She goes, Russia is a bigger country, and they invaded Ukraine, and that's a smaller country.
And that's wrong.
And she's explaining it like she would explain it to a two- or a three-year-old.
Now, no matter what you think about the war, there's a tremendous context.
There's a historic context.
There's a relationship between Russia and Ukraine.
There are things that have been going on there since 2014.
There's been fighting there.
There's been problems in the northern, you know, in the Donbass region in those areas.
And, you know, we've gotten very little information here other than the absolute right thing to do is to give Ukraine money, which I think initially everybody agreed with, like, let's help the Ukraine until we can find some resolution.
And then, you know, we started realizing that the resolution wasn't going to be the plan.
Tim, when you started off doing comedy and you were crushing it in New York and doing your podcast.
You stand to stop it.
No, you're going to stand to stop it.
No, I'm right here.
Did you ever think that the word Donbass would be in your vernacular?
Oh, you know, as a comedian, the Donbass region.
I always love the world, and I find it interesting and fascinating.
And I think it's funny.
So I think it's very funny.
So to me, it's very funny.
I live in Beverly Hills.
I live in an area where people are monsters and they make valets cry when their cars aren't there and they scream at nannies and they terrorize their employees and they're very vicious people.
That's how they make all this money.
A lot of them, not all of them, you know, but a lot of them are very like, you know, they're tough, okay?
And you wouldn't think of them as humanitarians.
That wouldn't be the first word that popped in your head when you think of Beverly Hills, right?
These are, you know, big movie producers.
These are investors.
They're CEOs or whatever.
Almost overnight, these people, again, who I've seen throw a fit when their Porsche was not outside of Nobu Malibu in a split second.
And overnight, they all decided that the one country they really, really felt bad for was the Ukraine.
They didn't care necessarily about any of the problems in America.
They rarely ever mentioned any of these areas like Detroit or upstate New York or areas that had been deindustrialized.
People have lost jobs.
There's a fentanyl crisis.
Palestine and everything going on.
Well, yeah, all of that stuff.
No one cared about it.
But overnight, everyone in Beverly Hills had a Ukrainian flag.
And overnight, it was the accepted position of some of the worst people that I've ever met that they had decided that the one cause that they were going to invest in in a humanitarian way was Ukraine.
And I thought that was very funny.
That kind of made me live.
It was very interesting.
And then this idea that if you had any questions about it, if you had any, if you said, well, wait, what?
Hold on.
You were branded as like a Putin sympathizer or a Putin apologist.
If you just wanted to know what was going on, you couldn't ask.
So I just find all that stuff funny.
I find the way that they do that pretty funny and pretty impressive, actually.
So we had Eric Prince on a couple days ago from Blackwater, who obviously the guy knows a lot about this stuff.
This is David Sachs talking about what Eric Prince said.
We need to bring that war to a close because all Ukraine is doing right now is destroying itself demographically.
They're chewing up the next generation of manpower that they really can't replace right now.
They don't have enough manpower.
The Western defense base is pathetic, and you're not going to outconventional war.
The Russian bear.
An ugly peace is better than whatever their idea of an ideal war is.
Freeze the lines.
Let them keep Crimea.
Doncek, you know, all the other ones.
It's not the American taxpayers' obligation to spend another $100 billion in Ukraine when there's been significant corruption, really nothing to show for.
Yeah, by the way, it's not like Zelensky's not.
They just found what?
$40 million was gone the other day.
Another guy stole a couple other million.
Zelensky's on interviews, geeked out on cocaine because obviously he's getting the good cocaine now.
It's like, what do you mean?
There's a video of him just geeking out.
Zelensky's on cocaine now.
Adam, I know you don't believe anything.
I'm just genuinely asking.
From the look of it, if you saw it, you'd look like you're speculating too, though.
I'm speculating too.
We got that.
It was on Vinny.com.
This is the one.
That's pretty true.
Look at his mind.
He's.
Do we have an audio here, Rob, or are we just looking for a shot?
They don't have enough weapons to advance.
They can only happens to your country if this American aid.
This was the face of every Bitcoin guy in Miami when it crashed.
So my point being, it's obviously corrupt.
The money's getting stolen, but you nailed the truth.
It's like the BLM thing.
If once BLM happened, if you weren't putting a black square, I had people like, what the hell is your problem?
You're not going to support.
I'm like, I'm not putting anything anywhere.
I have two Instagram posts on my Instagram right now.
It's a black square and a Ukraine flag.
That's it.
That's why I'm talking about it.
You know, it was one of those things that it happened immediately and everybody was on the same page.
And I was confused.
I was confused.
I remember there were Vice documentaries about Ukraine and how it was white supremacist gangs, these neo-Nazi gangs were in the Ukraine and they were recruiting people in America and it was like a huge issue and there was all this corruption in Ukraine and a lot of like neo-Nazi stuff.
And I was like, that's interesting.
It's just, that was odd.
And then that kind of went away.
And then it was just like, you know, no, this is the, You know, we're required as Americans to, you know, essentially provide military support and money for, you know, and an unknowable amount of time.
And I'm personally funding the BLM movement in Ukraine.
It's one black guy, but it's actually a Ukrainian guy that identifies as a black guy.
So it's pretty cheap.
I just give him one bullet a month.
And it is, you know, I look at it and I say to myself, I go, you know, it's fun.
It is tragic.
Like I thought when this whole thing happened, it was like, just cut a deal.
You're from the business world.
Make a deal.
Make a deal.
Just make a deal.
Give him Donbass.
Give him Lugansk and give him another thing.
Give him a thing he didn't expect.
That's fun.
You know, in the give Putin one thing he didn't expect.
A little adult.
You give him a little puppy, man.
You give him a town.
He didn't, we do, we do this at the closings all the time.
We go, and here's two grand that we have this escrow account.
We have $2,000 that you overpaid your tax.
We'd always do this after we told him we charged him $40,000.
You know what I mean?
We charge him $40,000 to do the loan.
And then we look at him and go, and let me, but let me, let me stop crying.
Let me tell you.
Let me tell you, because you overpaid your taxes, here's $2,000 you didn't know you had.
And then all of a sudden they're wiping the tears away and they go, this is kind of what a noble.
And then I say the same thing with Putin.
Give him something that he wasn't even expecting.
Give him a nice little town and say, here are the two things you want.
And we're throwing in a bonus for you and end it.
Sweeten the deal.
Sweeten the deal.
Well, at the end of the day, they eventually have to spend money.
The main question everyone's asking is if this is going to be like Iraq and we're going to be doing this for the next 5, 10, 15, 20 years or not.
I mean, obviously, that's one of the reasons.
We can't make any movies about this.
No one speaks the language.
No one cares.
Good point.
We can't do anything.
There's no cultural relevance.
You have to think.
Oh, my God.
No.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to work.
The one difference is, and I would pray and hope and being serious.
We sent troops into Iraq.
We sent troops into Afghanistan.
We sent troops into Vietnam.
No American boots on the ground.
Well, covert, you don't know.
I'm saying as a policy from the United States.
That is not what we're doing.
Let me ask you a question though.
So none of this.
And I'm not being the guy that's, oh, well, it didn't happen under Trump.
It didn't happen under Trump.
I get that.
But what was the moment where Putin was like, oh, shit, I'm going in?
Like, what do you think was that?
I think it was, you know, when Kamala Harris is saying, things like, we want to admit Ukraine into NATO.
And this is kind of the established position of the United States government is that, you know, there's all the ruling class, whatever you want to call them, that, you know, people like Ann Applebaum, who writes in the Atlantic, who says that Russia is a failed state and we need to westernize Russia.
I mean, you know, people read these articles, right?
The people that work at the State Department, Tony Blink and Victoria Newland, whoever these people are that are around Joe Biden advising him, they read this stuff and they go, Russia's a failed state.
We need to go in there and westernize Russia.
There is this idea that if we encircle Russia with NATO countries, you know, it becomes an inevitability that Russia eventually, and again, this is something that Hillary Clinton has talked about.
This is not like a conspiracy theory out of nowhere thing.
So whether you agree with Putin or not, his belief is that you're not going to put missiles in the Ukraine.
You're not going to put NATO missiles in the Ukraine in the same way that we wouldn't let China put missiles in Mexico.
So that's been Putin's whole thing is the encroachment of NATO.
I assume you saw Tucker's interview with Putin and then the death of Navalny, Alexey Navalny.
What are your thoughts on that?
Well, it's anyone who dies, it's sad.
You know what I mean?
And he died of tuberculosis In the Russian prison, which is a huge problem, tuberculosis and Russian protection.
He stepped on a nail.
You know, this is actually a very big problem, right?
Tuberculosis in Russian prisons.
And well, I, I, my foundation does a lot of work.
No, I don't know.
Here's the reality.
I, I, I will tell you this right now.
I don't know.
Uh, did the FSB get him?
Could be, but I'll tell you this.
Um, you know, I don't know why this guy was not, he's not a threat to Putin.
He's already wasting away in an Arctic jail.
He's already in a Siberian jail.
He's not going to get out of jail and win an election.
This isn't a movie.
And, you know, everybody in America is like Putin got rid of him because he was a threat.
Well, listen, he was no threat.
Zero.
And he doesn't have a huge popular support in Russia, by the way.
He doesn't.
I mean, if you listen to Russian podcasts, you know, people that are, it's not like state-controlled media.
If you actually listen to people, yeah, some people liked him, some people respected him.
You know, Navalny was a hated, it was a big anti-Jew guy, anti-gay.
He came out.
He was kind of an ethno-fascist, if you want to call it that.
A man of his times.
Yeah.
And he came out and him and his wife, who's a hero now, she loved him.
They were all into that.
And then he magically, I don't know, at some point decided those views were not good.
And he started espousing very Western kind of progressive views.
I don't know.
Now, I don't know how that happened.
I don't know.
But one day, this Alexey Navalny, who wrote some very controversial stuff that would not fly in today's, you know, in today's sensibilities, turned and became a big critic of the Kremlin.
And listen, there's a lot to criticize.
There's corruption in the Kremlin, and there's corruption all over the place.
And I'm obviously an American, rather live here.
I like our corruption better.
We're better at it.
We got the best corruption in the world.
We've got good corruption.
We're better at it.
Crony capitalism.
We're a modern society.
We've institutionalized corruption to a degree, whereas Russia is kind of an old world society.
And they're still a little rough around the edges, right?
That being said, I don't know why Putin goes and kills the guy now when, you know, during the summit, the Munich peace summit.
Maybe he does it to just get people.
I don't know.
You do some big interviews, which we'll talk about RFK.
I've seen you do a bunch of stuff.
But if you were sent to Russia instead of Tucker Carlson, Tim Dylan had Putin on.
Yeah.
You wouldn't let him go on on some history lesson.
You would ask him tough questions.
What would you do?
Ask him about the luxury and the mosque and marble and hotels and the Moscow supper clubs and really what is the elite doing and where are they going and how is Sochi as a second.
The thing I like about you is you're so smart.
Why do you know this stuff?
Why are you so smart?
Why are you curious into this stuff?
I'm curious about it because I grew up and I remember I thought I was right about everything.
And I thought I was right about the Iraq war.
I thought I was right about all these things.
Right.
And I remember being very fervently pro going into Iraq and Afghanistan.
This guy that believed in that idea that we needed to intervene in these countries and change their governments and make them more democratic.
This is what I believed.
I was 20 years old and I'm cocaine, but it sounded good.
Sounded great.
Everything sounds good.
Everything was good.
All the best ideas.
Yeah, everything was good.
And then I think it was about being wrong and learning that you are being sold a version of something.
No matter what you are, you know, no matter what you are consuming, you're being sold a version of it.
And I kind of realized that after the Iraq war and after I'd seen friends of mine go there and volunteer and sign up and some of them, you know, pass away.
And, you know, I saw the lives of veterans that came back.
They weren't getting good health care.
They weren't being adequately taken care of.
I saw, you know, I saw parts of America be completely ignored where 10 counties around D.C. became the wealthiest in the country.
And to me and a lot of people, it seemed like, you know, we then started becoming appropriately skeptical of all these narratives that the government was telling us that we needed to do.
Remember, after 9-11, it was essential.
It was essential for our security that we needed to do certain things.
It's the same argument that's often made.
You know, we've been in 25 wars in the past, I don't know, 20 years, 30 years, right?
How many of them can you name?
How many of them were that important to any of us and our way of life?
However, we're constantly being told that it's essential that we do these things.
So I'm just curious.
And I think a lot, and I try to laugh at stuff.
So I think a lot of it is funny.
I mean, they get away with a lot.
The people that create these narratives get away with a lot.
And I just think it's funny the way they do it.
I don't have a tremendous amount of power to change what's happening.
I just think it's funny to notice it and point it out.
I think humor does.
I actually think humor has a lot of power.
I think humor makes, I mean, look the stuff that, you know, that one joke Chappelle says when he gets up there and says, look, I'm all for this.
And, you know, women's right to choose and women's rights to get the abortion or not fully, ladies, I'm with you.
But I also want to give men the choice to not have to pay because they chose to keep it, right?
So as much as that's humor, that's kind of like, oh, okay.
So I think comedy, purely out of my own level of curiosity with comedians, I love to hear from everybody, but specifically from you.
The profile of a comic, there's a comic, like you think about an athlete, right?
There's different kinds of athletes.
There's those that are fast.
There's those that have quick Twitch.
You know, they have a good first step, but they're slow.
But their first step is so quick, they're punches slow, punches fast, but then they don't have a lot of power.
You know, they can jump high.
There's a lot of different ways you can be an athlete, right?
Yeah.
For comic, do comics go through a phase of like being like, dude, you know, oh, oh, hey, make me laugh.
You know, like you're saying your dad was, hey, Vinny, why don't you make us laugh?
You're like, dude, I'm not a clown here.
You're not going to say, just make me laugh.
Do comics go through an evolution of saying, man, I'm more than just a comedian.
I got a brain.
I got ideas.
I got thoughts.
Does that ever, does a comedian ever battle with that or not necessarily?
I don't know.
I think that it depends on what medium you're in, right?
Like I have a podcast.
So the medium, I think, requires you to be funny, but also requires you to have thoughts that are interesting and that are engaging.
So, I mean, you know, I think it depends on the medium, right?
If you're a comedy writer and your job is to just write a bunch of jokes for a show, you might not have that thought.
And I also never feel like I'm more than a comedian or any of that.
I just feel like I'm interested in things.
I talk for two hours a week.
You do as well.
You talk for more than me.
You figure out what things interest you.
And inevitably, that leads me kind of down the world of like current events or politics or world events or culture, wealth, people that have had a lot of money forever.
It makes me laugh.
It fascinates me.
I'm interested in them.
And I think they're interesting people.
I like that they're how cold a lot of them are.
And I like seeing a rich family in Palm Beach not speaking.
That makes me happy when I see like four really rich people in a restaurant and no one's talking.
On their phone?
I like, I like, not even on their phones.
The mother is just kind of drinking wine and the father's somewhere else and the kids are kind of sitting there very stoic.
That interests me because I come from a very loud family of screaming, yelling, messy, middle-class people.
So people fascinate me.
I look at people, I go, they're different than I am.
Not on the genetic level, but culturally, they're different than I am.
It's interesting.
And they have way less money than you.
I don't think they have way less money.
But like, you look at them and you go, it's interesting.
There's a cultural difference there.
There's something about it that, and that's always fascinated me.
And that, and that interests me.
And I think that that's a cool thing.
Yeah, Palm Beach is an interesting place.
God, I want to see you.
Yeah, one time we're having dinner, Jen and I at this place called Meat Market.
I'm sure you've been to it.
Of course.
Yeah.
And you go to this place and we're having dinner and I'm looking to my left and this probably, no joke, probably 90-year-old lady, okay?
And maybe 85, but she's close to 90.
She's very old.
She's there.
Sitting there with a 35-year-old, good-looking white guy.
Right.
And we're like, oh, it's cool.
She's with a grandson and they're just probably having a dinner and that's what's going on.
And then all of a sudden, Jen and I are like, babe, did you, did I hear that, babe?
Babe, I heard that too.
I said, babe, that's a little weird, babe.
So I kind of kind of, you know, doing one of these and trying to see what the hell is going on here.
And you're seeing him tell her, you're a bad girl.
You're not going to know what I'm going to do to you tonight.
No way.
It's like, oh, don't tell me.
Don't say that.
There's people here.
I'm like, a 90-year-old lady having a, only in Palm Beach.
How does that happen?
It's a fun place, man.
And I'm a fan of like rich misery.
I think it's very funny when people have a lot of money, but they're still not happy.
And it's very funny because it just shows that, you know, it really shows that life is not really not about that, but it is very funny.
And I was sitting next to a couple and I'm just watching this couple and they're not speaking the whole dinner.
They're not, I mean, they're saying little things, right?
They're just little things about the menu.
And he's just kind of, and she's just, she's waiting to kind of unload on him.
And as soon as the waiter leaves, she goes, she goes, you know, the Aspen house is for you.
I don't even ski.
And then he just kind of looked to the right.
And I just said, these people are loaded.
They've got everything.
They've got everything you could ever want.
They've got houses in Palm Beach, houses in Aspen.
And she just, and they're sitting at a table and they're miserable and they're upset and they're fighting like everybody else does.
There's something about that.
Joe Rogan told me once, he got back from like, I forgot what country he was, maybe it was the Philippines or wherever he was.
And he was saying, you see people that are going to have no money and they're happy.
They're happy.
They have not a lot of money.
They have very little money.
In fact, it's poverty.
That's so true.
They're smiling.
They're happy.
They're with their families.
They're happy.
There's something very, very interesting to me always about looking culturally at different things and seeing what seems to be working, what's not working.
This goes back to my uncle.
I've told this story a couple of times.
My uncle loved watching Kings of Comedy.
And Bernie Mac was his guy.
The best.
Well, my uncle doesn't speak English.
Interesting.
And every Sunday he would come, he would say, I want to see that.
But I want to see that man again.
And he would laugh for 30 minutes.
And my dad said, be very careful reading books because you will never be as happy as this man when you start reading books.
Because the more you learn, you lose an element of that innocence of being the happy simpleton, right?
Yeah.
And sometimes, you know, maybe it's better to be the happy simpleton and the guy that's, you know, maybe got a house in Austin, maybe in Hollywood Hills, maybe in the state of South America.
That's better than black.
But the point is, you know, you battle with that.
But I don't know.
I will tell you.
I've seen people who are poor and miserable.
And I've seen people that are poor and happy.
I've seen people that are rich and miserable.
I've seen people that are rich and happy.
If you can figure out a way to be rich and happy, it's the best.
Or poor and happy, be in those two places.
That's a good place to be.
Ignorance is bliss, is I think what he's saying.
Rich and happy people are not.
But I'm saying it in the Assyrian way.
The American Saturday.
Or very good looking and dumb.
I've always said that.
Hot and dumb is the best way to go.
Like the surfers in California.
Yes, if you're hot and smart, you know why people like you, and that'll eat at you a little bit.
You go, they all just like me because I'm hot.
If you're, you know, not hot and smart, that's a problem.
If you're, if it's an issue, if you're really dumb and not hot, then, oh, God, it's really a problem, right?
Horrible.
But if you are hot and then stupid, you have it all.
You really do.
You'll never question why the doors just open for you.
You'll never question why people like you.
You'll never need to be seen as more.
And that, I think that's great too.
People in Malibu are very happy.
They're very, very happy.
Yeah.
They wake up.
There's an ocean.
They go to it.
They go in it.
They get on a board.
They stand up on it.
If they catch a few waves, then they come back.
They eat a burrito.
They have sex with their wife or whatever.
And they go to bed.
And it's a very, and it's a nice, you know, that's a nice, they're not, they're not thinking about the Ukraine.
No one in Malibu is thinking about the Ukraine.
They don't know.
Unless the girl is from the Ukraine.
Yeah, unless she's the UV.
And then they're really thinking about it.
Then they're really not thinking about it.
That's right.
I know you're hanging in Palm Beach, and I'm going to take a stand here.
I think it's disgusting.
You don't like these 90-year-old women with these hot, 30-year-old men.
This is why I hang out with Miami, so old rich men can hang out with young hot women.
That's my cup of tea.
I like to see people in their 80s, but the tits are still out and the face is done.
And they're trying.
I like to see women in their 80s try.
I do.
I think there's something really nice about it.
It's beautiful in our society.
We've created a society where for a few million dollars a year, you can kind of stay 48.
They look about 48 until you get real close and you go, oh my God.
But they're about 48 until the end.
You can kind of freeze yourself at 50 with the right amount of disposable income until the end.
Just a couple million.
That seems to be what we've gotten.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
So freeze at like 60.
So, Adam, you wouldn't be at 43, 44 years old.
You wouldn't be with like a 90-year-old girl at this restaurant.
She has like three months to live, but she's like, I love you, Adam.
And everything I have is going to you.
I mean, I only have one question.
It's how much is she worth and what's her life?
20 million.
20 million.
Nah, that's not going to do it for me.
20 million?
2 billion.
Me and Edith are going to get married.
The Anonicole Smith mode.
It's also a fun place.
People end up in pools.
You know, one of the big Madoff guys ended up in his pool.
One of the Epstein associates ended up in the pool.
It's kind of a shadowy thing that goes on over there with a lot of money.
There's a lot of power.
And then, you know, people end up dead in their pool.
A lot of people end up drowning.
Is that the way to go?
What's the best way to go?
If you go, how would you want to go?
In a pool in Palm Beach, Massachusetts.
And I feel like there's got to be a moment where you see them.
Maybe they're so good you don't see them.
Yeah.
But there's got to be a moment.
I forget which guy ended up in his pool.
And, you know, it doesn't even matter.
People can look it up.
Maybe our friend drowns.
Is this the guy?
The billionaire philanthropist Jeffrey Howard accidentally drowned in his.
That happens a lot for adults.
A swimming pool after suffering a heart attack.
There's a lot of those happening.
Investigating the death of prominent Bernie Madoff investor, Salamandi.
I mean, it's always that accident, random heart attack.
It's just fun.
It's just interesting.
And, you know, I feel like he's sitting there by his pool, or maybe he wasn't by his pool, but like he sees him coming.
There's a split second, and it's probably a gardener.
You know, we've all seen Michael Clayton.
In the best movie, these people do wet work.
They call it, they go and kill people for a living as a living, right?
And I always think you have to save your receipts and go to HR.
You're like, listen, I got to get reimbursed.
Right, right.
I bought royalty.
They took an Uber.
Yeah.
But so I think what's fun about that is there, you know, these guys have had this really amazingly charmed life.
And then at the very end, it's tough, Epstein, whatever.
It happens at the very end.
But there's got to be like something in their head that just at the very end, they go, well, you know, this is kind of, I knew it was kind of going to end like, there's no way you live that type of life and you don't think it kind of has the potential to end exactly how it's going to end.
Did you watch the Madoff movie?
I think Pacino plays it, right?
Yes.
By the way, I didn't even know there was De Niro Pacinox, right?
De Niro.
But did you even know, did they even advertise this movie?
I don't remember.
I don't think so.
I accidentally ran into this movie.
It was a Netflix movie, right?
Or was it in a theater?
HBO movie?
There you go.
The wizard of lies.
Yeah.
That's De Niro.
That's De Niro.
And he plays Madoff.
It was good.
And how he dies.
I thought it was good.
The sons were involved and how they were pissed off at their father.
And it was not a good guy.
Well, PBD, you asked Tim initially just to kind of put a ribbon on this, like being a comedian, how are you so smart?
How are you so knowledgeable?
And he kind of admitted, like, I was wrong and I had to learn.
And then, you know, far be it from me, 2005 second runner-up of South Florida's funniest comedian over here to, you know, lecture Tim Dylan on comedy, the great Tim Dylan.
But I did own a comedy club in Miami.
That's where I met our friend Marcelo and to see what he's got going on these days.
But I will notice, especially when someone like you sits down with the Theovon or Brian Cowan gets brought in or whatever, once comedians start going down that rabbit hole of satire.
Yeah.
Like when you went down the rabbit hole of satire with Theovon about the DoorDash guys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you know, you know, what's going on?
I got to get the DoorDash.
But once you start going over that rabbit hole and you're just one-upping each other on complete sarcasm, eventually you're going to get to a nugget that's actually true.
And you're like, oh, like the DoorDash thing is I'm sure there's a million examples, but you know what I'm saying?
Like you just go, sarcasm, joke, joke, joke.
You go down this rabbit hole, but all of a sudden a nugget of truth pops up and you go, okay.
That's what probably happens with you, no?
Well, I think what happens is if you talk without constraints, you will eventually end up somewhere interesting.
And a lot of times interesting things happen to be true.
But if you're talking without constraints with somebody, you end up figuring out something because you're not worried about maybe things that other people would worry about because you're just trying to be funny.
So in the, you know, you're just trying to be funny and then you're saying, well, what about this?
What about that?
What about these premises?
It's all like figuring out like, what about this?
What about that?
What if they, what if they're doing it for this reason?
What if they're doing it for that reason?
And then eventually you get to it and you go, oh, that actually sounds really plausible.
Right.
Like, Vinny, you.
And it may not be, but it's, you know, that's how you get there.
You talk about when you did improv.
Not saying, because obviously you do stand up.
When you do improv, there's like a technique.
Yes, and.
Yes.
What is that?
You're never denying the scene because I was doing the groundlings when I first got to LA out of the military.
And it was people were like, and I'm an elephant now.
And somebody's like in the scene, like, no, you can't be.
And the teacher would stop the whole class and be like, rule number one, never, ever shut off somebody's idea.
Just add on top of it, like you said, the what if and what if this happens?
And then you go down that route.
How we create terrorist groups in the Middle East.
We just say, we go, it's Al-Shaba.
And then they go, no, it can't be.
How dare you?
You know, when they're sitting in Langley, sitting in Langley, Virginia, the CIA, that's what it is.
It's riffing.
It's ISIS.
It's ISIL.
It's just riffing.
And you just dump a few weapons to a couple of guys who are kind of nuts anyway and see what they do.
And that's what it is.
No one at Langley can say it can't be.
Yeah.
No.
There's no Japan.
It's ISIS and it's ISIL.
It can be both.
A comedian to be the president of the Ukraine.
They go, absolutely.
And somebody in the room goes, I don't know about that.
You know, they say exhibit A.
Yeah.
So why don't we go into some of these stories that we can riff in?
Sure.
Let's see how we can riff.
Rob, can you pull up?
This is breaking news, by the way.
I'm sure you didn't know this, but it's massive news, a life-changing type of news.
Wall Street Journal rapped that CDC just gave us the report that we all need to start adjusting the way we're living.
Oh, no.
It's official.
Keyword, official.
We can pretty much treat COVID like the flu now.
What?
And it gives you the guide.
So no longer CDC actually came out and told us it's no longer the COVID.
It's now just the flu.
Do you think it's always been the flu?
Do you think it's always been, but it took CDC four years to figure it out?
Do you think there was some craziness going on?
What do you think is going on here with CDC not telling us it's the flu?
You know, you got to realize when COVID first happened, people got very excited.
And I'll tell you why, because they had talked about it for a long time.
You know, like Bill Gates had run all these like, you know, you know, you know, simulations, simulated events, like they get really excited about it.
Simulation, yeah.
Yeah, they go, they go, what if, what, maybe, you know, what if we had a, what if we had a little sickness?
You know, what if we, what if we had a little shutdown?
What if we had a pandemic?
They thought about it.
They, they considered all the things that they would do if there was a pandemic.
This is something that they had prepared for.
They, they were really into this, right?
This is something they would do.
They would have these drills and programs and all this stuff.
They go, how would we respond to a pandemic?
So I think what happened when COVID happened was, you know, basically they were like, let's try out all the stuff we thought we would try out.
Let's lock everyone down.
Let's transfer all this money to people that are rich already.
Let's see what they do.
Let's see what people will tolerate.
Let's, you know, because I think that they were like, if not now, when?
This is the epitome of the yes.
If not now, when you go back to the point.
Let's keep going.
If you have prepared for this day and you've run all these simulations and you've discussed what you were going to do and it happens, you do it.
You know, Rahm Emmanuel, who is Obama's chief of staff, said never let a good crisis go to waste.
I mean, I'm sure we've all heard this and repeated it at nauseum, but that's the way I think they looked at COVID.
They were like, let's see what we can do here.
Yep.
You know?
And Tim, do you think, mind you, you know this, the timing couldn't have been perfect to, you know, last year, presidency, this thing comes out of Wuhan lab.
We own it.
Fauci, do you think, even though now, I mean, it's obvious, we knew as what was happening, Tim, but now, because the news cycle is so fast, now, what, four couple years later, now you're like, okay, it was the flu.
Last didn't work.
Fauci lied.
The science was off.
Now Americans are just like, dude, we're on to the next.
We have to worry about Ukraine.
Nobody gives a shit, even though now we know for a fact they lied the entire time.
Meanwhile, Fauci, who was a mouthpiece, is protected by the Secret Service full-time our tax dollars.
He's retired and he's protected forever.
It will never be held again.
What I enjoy about COVID is that, of course, China's been held accountable for everything they've done.
Everything that happened in the virology department of the Wuhan lab, it's all been rectified.
They've given their conclusion.
No apologize.
China has no, they actually haven't.
No.
I think Abby's trying to be a comedian to get it.
Being facetious, the word is the word.
Is that what it is?
Yes, stimulate.
Yeah, the stimulation.
No, but I agree with what you're saying with the fact that nothing's happened there.
No, the question I'm asking is the following.
Here's the question I'm asking.
The jokes, let's have fun with that.
But I'm asking a real question in this part.
Do you think it's always been the same, or do you think it's no longer the same because our bodies are immune to it, so it can no longer fight us the way it did?
Like, what do you think actually?
So, I mean, I'm not a doctor.
I don't know.
I'm sure that the original COVID variant was worse, right?
It weakens over time.
How much worse?
I don't know.
I think that really all depends on like what were the numbers of COVID deaths that were purely from COVID?
What were the numbers that were from another maybe disease, fatal disease plus COVID?
I don't know.
I've heard lots of different people offer testimony, people I respect that go, no, it was much more serious early on.
And it probably, I imagine it was.
How serious was it?
Was the right way to go about it to shut everything down and have these rolling shutdowns for two years and make people overall probably less healthy and shut down national parks and shut down gyms and shut you know, but leave liquor stores open, like right, the famous thing, you shut down churches, but you can go out and get drunk.
Priorities, we got to give the priorities that in hindsight seems silly and not the way to have handled it.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm not a doctor.
I can't tell you whether it was more serious or not, but the response to it now in hindsight seems absurd.
From a federal response.
Because if you look at it from a federal response, obviously Trump started with the Operation Warp Speed and then Biden carried it on in his legacy.
But, you know, some heroes were formed during COVID.
And that's the beauty of what's going on in America is you have 50 states to choose from.
So, you know, I was in Florida or Texas during COVID, and you would sort of not even notice it was that big of a deal.
Well, it depends where you were.
Exactly.
But if you're in California, or if you're in New York, God forbid you're one of those nursing homes with Cornwall.
So in Beverly Hills, we had no vax mandate.
We had no mask mandate.
And, you know, we didn't because it's a lot of the rich get richer.
Well, it's a lot of Iranians, people like that.
They don't fall for like bullshit as easily.
So it was a lot of like, you know, Persian people and stuff like that.
Beverly Hills kind of does its own thing.
I wasn't aware of how draconian a lot of the measures were.
You know, I had friends calling me going, I can't get in.
They're doing temperature checks and this and that.
Like it's weird.
Like I have to have a vax card.
I have to have my thing on my phone.
For us, it was not.
It was very kind of localized.
Like Beverly Hills didn't have a lot of thewhere else in California.
A lot of French laundry.
A lot of other places, except, yeah, I mean, listen, it certainly was.
There were things in Beverly Hills were annoying too, but like it was less annoying than the city of LA, for example.
Just like California's passed a mansion tax where you have to give 5% or 4% of your house if it sells for over $5 million or 5% if it sells for over 10 million.
And this has to go right to the government so that they can fight homelessness with this money.
That doesn't sound like redistribution of wealth now.
It's never been defined how they're going to do it, but you know who's exempt from it.
You're going to laugh.
Malibu.
Beverly Hills.
Okay.
Manhattan Beach, like any incorporated city that is.
So city of LA, city of Los Angeles, they, ULA, is, is, you have to pay if you sell your home.
Other places like Beverly Hills or Malibu, you don't.
So it is weirdly localized, but overall, you know, California and New York had bad leadership, I think, during COVID.
They had bad leadership during riots.
They had bad leadership.
And a lot of people fled those states and, you know, they're relocated.
I think you're planning on staying.
I move around so much as a comedian that I'm not, you know, ever quite, you know, I go with my accountant at the end of the year and basically figure out where I've been.
And he goes, well, you've been here, you've been there.
I have friends and family in New York.
So I'll never be able to, I'm not going to abandon New York.
I'll spend time there.
And, you know, I'm in the business of comedy.
So I like LA.
I have great friends in Austin.
I go there a lot too.
So I don't know, long term, I'll probably end up in Florida long term because I love Florida.
You're welcome here anytime.
Palm Beach is accepting applications.
Can I get your opinion on the COVID thing?
Because you've been very outspoken about this.
I think one of the things, because you said when you were in the Army, you were getting jabs, boom, mandates.
That's one of the biggest things.
You know, you've said openly on the podcast, your father got the vax, and so did Melva, I believe.
But that's not something that you stood for.
I think it was the mandates and the painting with broad strokes where if you're old and you're unhealthy and you have comorbidities, yeah, go get and get the get the jab.
But then you see the slippery slope of like, now we need elementary school kids getting the jab.
It's like, now you need to go get your 12th booster.
Thanks, guy.
So where do you draw the line on this?
What's your take on this?
Because I remember when our other friend over here got very sick because of COVID.
I mean, I saw you lost 20 pounds from it.
It wasn't the flu, but the mandates.
I mean, I still can't smell.
It's the best thing that's ever happened to me.
But where do you stand on this?
No, listen, my question is, I'm coming from a place of curiosity.
I know you're like RFK.
We've had RFK on multiple times.
We talk about a lot of different things.
He is more paranoid on the way vaccines were used during COVID.
And a lot of parents are concerned about that.
I'll tell you a couple of things on what I think happened with this because go to the next one, right?
I mean, if Bill Gates really wanted to sell people on his, let's just say he's got a depopulation, or there's people that believe that he does this.
He says, openly says, a lot of people say the concern is there's too many people.
And by the way, other people we've had on the podcast have said this, right?
Openly, that they think there's too many people.
If that's the case, I mean, you can go use scripture and say the Bible says a third of people will die and there's going to be such a famine that's going to show up that a third of people could die.
So Bill Gates could be a preacher and try to spin that and get people to start kind of thinking about that.
But for me, I think a lot was revealed.
They tried to accelerate the process of control very quickly.
The last four years, you saw that with what some of the things World Economic Forum was doing.
And I'm convinced the right people are not going to let that happen.
It's just not going to happen.
They're going to try to do it as much as possible.
The only thing that we have to be careful with is the following is this thing goes away.
People are no longer that curious to know if China was behind COVID.
Why?
Because it's yesterday's headache.
Yep.
And we've moved on, right?
So it's kind of like, you know, the line that Hillary Clinton uses.
Like when I talked to Anthony Weiner, what did she say?
What's the big deal?
What's the, have you ever seen when she said that?
It passes in the past.
It passes in the past.
And she's like, what difference does it mean?
What difference does it make, right?
What difference does it make now?
But they are banking on majority of the people saying, what difference does it make?
And I don't think that's the right thing.
By the way, if Trump does get elected and none of those findings come out, then guess what?
And you didn't fulfill your campaign commitments.
100%.
If you're going to go out there and saying these people are going to be held accountable, well, you better pull it off because that's a lot of what America wants to know.
Because if it doesn't happen, next time around, COVID comes around, if we make the same mistakes again, it's people's fault.
It's the leaders' fault.
Are they still selling the boosters and stuff?
Oh, yeah.
But that I like.
I like that as just somebody as a fan of Mark.
Let's be honest, as a fan of Mark, now this thing hasn't really worked in the way that anyone thought it was going to work.
And they're still out there and they go, We've got a new one.
And I love it.
And by the way, no one, the terms and the COVID and the things they call COVID are confusing.
And the new strains are all the time popping up.
Are you up to date with all the boosters?
Are you on the seventh one or the eighth?
I got the first two shots because I had to, I would, I was touring as a comedian.
You can't do it if mandates.
Got to get into the UK.
Is that the whole space?
You couldn't do it if you wanted to do it.
Couldn't go to Canada.
You couldn't go to Canada.
You couldn't go to the UK.
You couldn't do New York City.
How about in the States?
The big places.
You couldn't do it.
LA.
LA comedians well known that we both know were like Vinny.
Well, I have a fake card, a vaccine card that I could get even in red states, even venues in red states.
If they were, a lot of them would still require you to have the thing.
So I got the first two, but I never got any boosters.
But I know people with the boosters and the boosters.
To me, it's the ultimate comedy is that it didn't really work and it didn't do the thing that they said it was going to do.
The only thing now they go, well, you would have been dead.
That's like the last thing that, you know, in the beginning, they're like, you won't get it.
Then they're like, well, you will get it.
You won't get sick.
Then they go, no, you'll get it and get sick, but you won't get that sick.
And then they go, no, no, no, you'll get it.
You'll get sick.
And it'll probably be really bad, but you won't die.
That was the last, it's the last thing he had left.
So the fact that they're still selling it three years later, that Pfizer is still going, let's, let's do it.
Let's bring it to market.
To me, I think that's hilarious.
And can you imagine like people walking in and still wanting this?
Going in and going, Can I get a booster?
And the people at Wall, you know, like Walmart or wherever the hell they're getting these things, the pharmacy at CVS.
They're like going, What?
They go, No, no, no, I want a COVID booster in 2024.
Well, it's like a hot 90-year-old in Palm Beach.
They got to stay fit.
They got to stay firm.
They got to stay friendly.
Well, if you guys think about it, though, I mean, when you have Travis Kelsey, who's dating one of the most popular non-singing females on the planet, doing commercials, going, Hey, jab yourself, that keeps that wheel going.
But going back to the overpopulation thing, where it's not like they're hiding it.
When Bill Gates goes, Yeah, you know, we're, you know, there's too many of us.
Do you guys remember Prince Philip?
That really attractive looking guy?
Rob, I sent you the photo of him.
Prince Philip, who died at 99 years old in 2009, he said this about when he dies.
He goes, In the event that he dies and I'm reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus to contribute something to solving overpopulation.
Well, I think he died as a deadly virus.
Take a look at the photo.
Look at him.
I mean, he did.
Wow.
These are the people who love Prince Philip.
You've done it.
That's what they did in Indiana.
That is an absolute Bob.
It's a quote.
Verify that.
I love it.
Verify the quote that he said that.
And it's a quote from him.
I like when it's like Illuminati gloves off.
You know what I mean?
At least they're not hiding it.
When they're at the end, they got integrity.
Yeah, they're like, let me just come out here.
He's on his deathbed.
These are his last words.
He's not holding any punches back.
This is what he believes.
And I've said this before, Tim, and I want to know what your take is.
Like, if you think about it.
Can you find a quote right?
Yeah, Rob, it's in there.
Wow.
Yeah, let's fashion.
But usually, Snopes is against this.
It says, oh, shit.
For that guy of that.
Great work, Rob.
For him to say, in the event that I come back, I want to kill as many of you effers as possible.
So by the way, this is the elite mindset.
And going back to the COVID, because like you nailed it, bro, they warned us.
They had all these, they had exercises.
I don't know if it was the year.
It was like pandemic something readiness preparation.
And it's in your face.
It's projective program.
They show you what they're going to do.
They had some like JV things, the swine flu.
They had the monkey pop.
No, they had other things going on.
If this was a movie, if this was a movie, think about what they got away with and everything like all the mainstream media.
It was so planned.
CNN had a death track ticker.
Like every day, it was like the debt thing.
So if you think about it, look at what they got from it.
Okay.
The whole WHO and CDC, they have all this power now.
They can do whatever the hell they want, right?
It helped with the voting, mail-in voting, rampant around the country, okay?
They destroyed small businesses.
And you nailed it, those deaths.
I know a guy that worked that's one of those administrators at a hospital.
He goes, Vinny, this is early on, Tim.
He goes, if somebody came in with a more they died from a motorcycle accident and they tested positive for COVID, we would tell the family, hey, just here's some cash.
We'll put that he died of COVID.
Not that were they doing that?
Man, I would have done that.
100% for cash.
We got to get those numbers out.
I would have shut up and said, my mother died of COVID in 10 seconds.
I would have said it.
I had no idea they were offering envelopes of money.
They were giving cash.
I'll do it now.
Can we do it?
Can I retroactively do it?
Yeah, but not the movie.
I'd like to go on the record and my whole family died.
Give me a chance.
I just shot a guy.
Cut me a check.
I just shot a guy.
That's a form of reparations, though.
We should be able to do that.
I mean, think about it.
Like, what is it hurting you if on the death certificate, it just says COVID instead of motorcycle?
Who gives a shit?
Because they wanted to inflate the numbers, but the accountability to this day to China should scare the shit out of everybody because guess what?
They're already saying pandemic number two.
How many more warnings do you have to get to say no?
I remember I was in this little chat app called Clubhouse.
It was really hot during the pandemic.
It was hot for about six months.
Yeah, it was.
But you'd go into these rooms and it was an audio app where people would talk to each other during the pandemic, very isolated.
Everyone was like hanging out on this app.
And there were people saying, We're going to have a pandemic every five years.
Therapy, and they were giddy.
Truly.
They were giddy about it.
They were saying, There was a woman on one of these things.
She's like, Listen, she goes, We're going to have this every five years.
This is just a way of life now.
This is what it is.
And I think a lot of people got very excited, especially people in the tech industry that are like, Yeah, stay in your home.
That's right.
Use our product.
And I think they got really excited.
Maybe the people from Zoom had something to evolution from this.
Maybe I know you're certainly more of a businessman than I am, but like, how many years do you think we accelerated during COVID?
For example, now remote work is huge.
All these things are huge.
You know, probably at least five.
Maybe, I mean, the big thing would be 10, but like this idea of like, how much did it speed up our, you know, you know, you know, delivery into this digital landscape?
Was it, do you think that we would have gotten there in five years?
Do you think we would have gotten there in two years?
It's not even going there.
America's the only country in the world that believed it, that went back to it.
Meaning, like, for example, I'll give you crazy stats, right?
All right.
So do you know what country in the world is the worst country that have kids being born to a single mother?
Oh, no.
U.S. 40%.
Makes sense.
40% of the kids are born to single mother, fatherless homes.
40%, right?
Do you know what that number is in India and China?
No.
Let me just give you the world.
The world average is 7%.
India and China are 4 and 3%.
Only in America will we get to 40%.
And we don't sit there comparing the stats.
We're like, okay, that's just the way it is.
I bet everywhere else is like this, right?
So there's a guy, there was an event being done here in Southern South Florida by Ron Biscardi that I sent Tom and Eric to.
Rob, you played this clip.
I texted it to you a couple of weeks ago.
We played this on the podcast.
This billionaire says, this whole concept of working from home, and she's trying to correct them, right?
You won't find it like this.
Just look for a text that I sent you, Rob, and find it through the text I've sent you, and you'll see there.
So he says, Yeah, you know, U.S. is the only place that people still are not coming back to offices.
Right.
Everywhere else, everybody's back at offices except in America.
Interesting.
So why is that?
What are we doing?
Right.
Maybe it's our policies.
Maybe companies are accepting it.
Maybe companies are afraid.
More and more companies today are flat out saying you're either at the office or you're not.
You're just going to get fired.
Right.
Totally fine.
So Musk brought that back up first.
Some other other guys are bringing it up as well.
To me, here's kind of what I want to ask with this.
Okay.
All right.
So we went through a pandemic.
No problem.
Fair to say, America wasn't ready for it.
Okay.
On how to react to it.
Literally.
That's very fair.
Every day they're like, you want to say something?
Yeah, I'll say something.
So here's what's going on.
Okay.
Do you have anything?
Okay, we'll give you another update tomorrow.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
So, hey, do you want to?
Flat on the curve.
We're going to flatten it.
Everybody was so nervous.
Yeah.
So here's a question.
How much do you think from 2020, say February, till today, how much do you think we've actually invested time, money, resources in being prepared for the next one?
Nothing.
That's the point.
Negro.
We just went through it.
How much smarter do we get?
Well, I think it's no fun to avoid the pandemic.
Nobody wants that.
None of these simulations that Gates or any of these guys ran involved being over the pandemic in 48 hours, by the way.
None of them were like, here's how we nip this in the bud and move on.
They were like, here's how we deal with this incredibly devastating thing.
So yeah, it doesn't seem like, and I think they say we get one every hundred years or so.
Or, you know, the last one was Spanish flu in 1918.
So the good old days.
You know, I think, you know, we're famous as a country for moving forward.
Well, what's great is, you know, the big pharma companies, the Pfizers, the McGrath, you know, as nonprofit companies, as 501c3s, this was what they just wanted to help us all out.
They didn't make any money from all this.
I think they'll generate tens of billions and hundreds of billions of dollars.
The legacy of this wasn't on their agenda.
That no one, unfortunately, there's been a seed of distrust sown into the population when it comes to the government and to big corporations and these narratives that I think can't be undone.
And it will take a long time.
It'll take generations of people to ever, if they ever fully get that trust back, it'll take a long time because I don't think people are ready now to trust them again on a wide range of issues, but certainly not on public health.
Oh, it's at the, I think the trust in the government and the media right now is at an all-time high.
It's an all-time low.
All-time low.
They're crushing it.
They are.
Which is sad because you need it.
If you're going to have a functioning government, you're going to have a functioning media.
You need people to trust these institutions.
But when they let you down over and over again, there's just, you know, what are you going to do?
Well, I will say this.
I think COVID was one of the best things that ever happened to us in America.
Now, you're going to think, like, what the hell are you talking about right there?
Because the reason I liked it is because now everybody has to reveal their hand.
Big pharma, we understand what they stand for.
Big tech, we understand what they go for.
Big government, we understand where they're at.
Everyone had to put their hand out and say, this is where I'm at.
We saw the big tech overlords and the virtual governments expose how they basically vote.
We understand what big pharma is.
Everyone had to get revealed.
Now, kind of like what you said when you were 20, you thought you knew everything.
Unfortunately, that took me until about age 40.
That's the word, Rob.
Oh, with Barry Stern.
The thing is, this, though, fool me once, right?
Shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
If it happens again, I think it woke up.
You said all the right people are always finding each other.
Here's the problem, though.
When people have been woken up, here's the problem.
Let me just tell you what the problem is.
This is why we're having a hard time making progress.
Rob, can you pull up the video I just sent you earlier?
Chuck Schumer.
Okay, so this is Chuck Schumer.
This is why it's going to be very hard to make progress.
If you go to, you'll see I texted to you, Rob.
You should have it in your text.
If you look at it, it's a clip of Chuck Schumer talking to Biden on a hot mic, and you should see what he says to him.
Oh, really?
No, no joke.
I mean, you have to see what he says to him.
Well, how long ago was this?
Just play this clip.
Whether this is three days ago, go ahead and play this clip.
Watch this.
Zoom in a little bit so we can see the words.
Did you hear what he said?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Done it for six years, and I keep doing it.
The freaking sneak.
He's a sneak.
who he's talking to, by the way.
You can pause it right here, Rob.
The point is, the point is, if you continuously have this, we're not going to make progress on it.
How do we prepare for the next one?
No, yeah.
And I mean, this is how they talk.
This is the thing.
This is how they talk, right?
I mean, I think that like people.
Do you believe this?
Do you believe that's exactly like this kind of stuff happens?
This is exactly how they talk all the time behind closed doors and in front of you.
This is how they talk.
They actually have contempt for people, it seems like, because they look at it like, you know, basically, this is, you know, people have said, you know, it's like a quote that people have used all the time, but they're like, Washington is Hollywood for ugly people or whatever, right?
This is the way that they, it's what can be sold to you.
And they're basically like, we can blame these people.
We can lie.
All we care about is our donors.
All we care about is the money.
All we care about is protecting the people that put us there, that give us money.
Chuck Schumer is the senator from Wall Street, by the way, New York senator.
He has a constituency.
They don't care.
They don't care.
This is how they talk.
They are behind closed doors.
They could be playing golf in Greenwich, Connecticut, or Palm Beach or wherever they are.
Maybe they're drinking wine in Nap Valley with Gavin Newsome.
Yeah, wherever it is, they are not talking about the fentanyl crisis.
They're not talking about people that don't have jobs.
They're not talking about immigration.
Other than to say, donors are upset.
They're getting pushback.
How do we handle these very wealthy people that pay us money?
That's really what this is what they do.
Now the internet's ruined this whole thing now.
You know what I mean?
Imagine doing this for hundreds of years.
And then all of a sudden, they don't know what a hot mic.
They should start explaining to Joe Biden what this even is.
The most important thing to me in this entire thing is when he says, I'm a pro.
Because if you go down the rabbit hole of I'm a pro, what does that mean?
And he's a pro.
Yes.
What it means is that I am the establishment.
I've been doing this for decades.
How long has he been the Senate majority or minority leader?
Two decades, probably.
And what I will say is it's as establishment as it gets, but it works on both sides of the aisle because for every Chuck Schumer, of course, there's our good friend Mitch McConnell.
And those are the neocons essentially that are going back and forth on this.
And they're just playing the game of politics and there's dead people that show for them.
And there's two things.
Number one, zero, zero accountability.
Zero.
They get away with all of them.
Well, because people keep voting for them.
No, no, no, no.
People voted for a corpse named Mitch McConnell again in 2020.
The people in Kentucky should be held accountable.
People in New York should be held accountable.
When I hear people like this, when I see this, and God knows what they're saying behind the closed doors, I wouldn't put it past them to be in cahoots with a different country to be like, oh, you know that disease that they'll call a flu in a couple years?
Release that shit.
And we'll never hold any accountability.
You don't really know.
You never know.
You don't know.
Let it leak.
Let it leak.
We want to get the president out.
Let it leak.
Allegedly.
I'm coming from a place of if, like, who's I talking to?
I was talking.
Oh, I was talking to a prince.
I said, okay, typically when you have two people get into a fight, you could be your kids.
Okay.
It could be your friends.
It could be your cousins, your parents.
Right.
You know, whoever it is, employees.
First thing you do, you bring them together and hey, your position, your position, totally get it.
What do you guys agree on?
You try to find a point of, you know, where at least there's some, not necessarily middle ground.
What do you actually agree on?
Okay.
Right.
Right.
You, and I asked Eric, I said, so imagine we're in a room.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm the mediator.
You're the mediator.
Anybody is the mediator.
You have Schumer.
Yeah.
You have Pelosi.
Right.
You have, you know, AOCs, the Obamas, whoever it is, right?
And then on the other side, you got whoever, Pickham.
McConnell, whatever.
Well, McConnell establishment.
Like Matt Gates, let's just say Matt Gates.
Let's just say Trump.
Jim Jordan.
Let's just say Jim Jordan.
Let's just say Trey Gowdy.
Let's just say some of these guys, right?
And you ask Lindsey Graham.
What do you guys agree on?
Like, do they both believe America is great?
The greatest country in the world?
They would all say yes.
Here's it.
But what does it mean?
None of them are telling the truth.
Your thing only works if people are being honest.
They're not ever being, they're always lying.
And they're lying.
You remember that one time?
They all agree on self-preservation.
Exactly.
They just want to continue to rule.
No terms.
Are you convinced the 56 guys that started this country were the same way?
No, because it was a different time.
But I think that, like, you know, for example, I think there was a lot more risk than there was now, right?
So when those 56 guys lose now.
Or then.
Well, then you could get killed for taking a stand and starting a country.
England could, you could lose a war.
You could, you know what I mean?
I guess what I'm saying is a lot less to lose.
You had a lot less money to lose.
You have a lot more money to lose.
You have a lot more control to lose.
Back then, you're like, dude, I ain't got nothing.
Like, the only thing I got is freedom.
You're going to kill me?
What else do I have?
I'm either going to be a slave to Britain or I'm going to be a free person.
So the only thing is, historically, you can typically find something they have in common.
If Phil is going to say, Kobe, you hate Shaq, Shaq, you hate Kobe.
Yeah.
Do you want to win another chip?
Do you want to be better than Kareem?
Do you want to go into history books as a most dominant center of all time?
Kobe, do you want to pass up MJ?
I do.
Can we make this work?
The problem with a lot of high-up establishment people on both sides of the aisle is if you said, What are the things we agree on?
It would be like enslaving the population and love of Satan.
It's sadly undeniable.
So that's unfortunately.
And then they go, okay, let's work from there.
Let's build.
Now we can build.
Okay, so if that's the case, if that's the case, I want you to be the strategist that you are politically because a lot of people that follow your content or they follow us or they follow a lot of these other accounts.
They're common sense people that would like to be free, have fun, enjoy their time with their family, go out there and do their thing.
What do you think is the solution to disconnect?
Disconnect.
Do you think that's the solution?
I don't mean disconnect in the sense of like, you know, become like a hermit and, you know, go underground or whatever.
I mean, don't believe things that don't make sense to you.
This is, I think, very important.
If something does not make sense to you, don't believe it.
Don't make these logical, crazy leaps in your mind.
Now people are asking you to believe things that are there.
If somebody says a man can get pregnant, we know that's not the case.
Some people are no longer on YouTube.
Tim, sorry.
I apologize.
But so that's not the case, right?
So if somebody has to explain something to you in a three-hour lecture, okay, in a field of study that has only existed for 20 or 30 years, you have to be, I think, appropriately skeptical of all that stuff, right?
You have to look at it and go, that doesn't make any sense to me.
If overnight you were told that you owe the Ukraine a percentage of your tax dollars forever, that doesn't make sense to you, you're right.
You're correct.
You know, if overnight people are saying, we're rewriting every biology book in America to say that biological sex and gender have nothing to do with each other.
And you go, that seems extreme.
It doesn't make any sense.
You're right.
If people say like, we're not going to have a border and we're going to let people come in no matter who they are.
Don't fight it.
Just agree with them.
Yeah.
At the end of the day, it's like you have to trust your own intuition.
That doesn't mean you know everything.
That doesn't mean you're a doctor.
It doesn't mean you're a lawyer.
It doesn't mean you're a scientist.
What it does mean is that you have common sense.
And if people are asking you to completely throw away all of your common sense, something's wrong.
I'm asking a different question.
I'm asking a different question.
The question I'm asking is, sincere, would you like America to stay as the greatest country in the world?
Sure.
You would like that.
Yeah.
Okay.
So how many of you are out there that are influential in different space, business, politics, comedy, Hollywood?
How many of you, your level of influence, are out there?
What number do you think?
What do you think it is?
I actually think, let's put a number to it.
What do you think that number is?
Give me a number.
How many total followers you got?
10 million, 15 million, 20 million?
We have a lot.
I don't know.
I mean, we've got a million a week on the podcast.
It's close to a million on Instagram.
We've got close to a million on Twitter.
And I have people that come buy tickets.
I think you're 5 million plus.
Yeah, sure.
Okay.
So how many people do you think that are like you, that love America, that want to be left alone, that have 5 million or more that are willing to do something about it, that if we were to hold a meeting and they're all willing to attend, how many things would be there in that room?
What do you think that number is?
Yeah, I don't know.
And I don't know.
I would know.
Can we guesstimate and say 1,000?
Okay.
That's a fair number.
Is that a fair number?
Yeah, that's a fair number.
Okay.
Let's say it's 1,000.
So let's just say we actually do this.
I would love.
And we come together and we have this meeting of these thousand people.
That's okay.
What can we do to unite and kind of figure something out?
What do you think would be an approach to take to prevent these guys from ruining the greatest nation in the world?
Well, people would have to get involved in the political process, it seems like, right?
People would have to run for things.
They'd have to want to, or they'd have to get into the media game.
They'd have to come up with institutions that are media, That provide information to people or that have to run for something.
Those seem to be the only two ways outside of like some violent revolution, right?
It seems to be information and it seems to be institutional power.
Those are the two things that the elite have always controlled.
They've controlled information, they've controlled institutional power, and institutional power controls military police, everything like that.
So, I mean, if you're going to nonviolently change a country, it seems like the two ways to do it would be institutional power, which is elections and running and trying to attain some level of power, or it would be some type of media strategy where you pull your money together, you start these organizations, and you start trying to get out the information that you think is vital for people to have.
I mean, those are the only two things.
Build some schools that aren't teaching what the left is.
Look at what China's doing.
Just do what China's doing.
Literally, I'm not even kidding.
Everyone's afraid of China, you know.
And I understand.
I have a godson who's Chinese, who's three, and I watch, I watch him closely because I know.
He could be a spy, is what you're saying.
Well, he's, you know, culturally, it's interesting to.
Yeah, I'm with you on this.
I see him.
He's maybe born in a lab and wood.
I would have never taken a white godson, though.
I want, you know, disgusting.
You need somebody.
DEI in the Jim Dylan house.
I want high engagement, Japanese, Chinese.
That was a request.
High-end.
The Palm Beach of Asians.
Yeah.
So the reality is what they're doing, they're going around the world and they're building schools and they have this Belt and Road initiative.
And what they're doing, and Kennedy explains this, is they're going around and they're saying, we're going to teach our values and we're going to invest in communities and we're going to build schools and we're going to teach the things that we believe.
And America, and this is what RFK has said, has always done this with a gun.
We've always done this by saying we're going to knock over a government and we're going to install a government and we're going to do this all with military power.
China has been doing it with soft power by saying we're building schools, we're building roads, we're doing these things.
And the end goal is the same.
It's control.
It's imperialism.
It's we want territory.
We want people to agree with us.
But they're doing it with education.
I think that's probably the way you have to do it: get people good information.
The problem is, what do you do with all the information?
What is a guy that can barely afford a house whose kids are failing out of school?
He can't afford tutors.
He's struggling.
What is he going to do about fixing the CIA?
I mean, unfortunately, to most people, that's a very, you know, that's a big ask, right?
We've got 17 intelligence agencies in America.
You know, we have a lot of these power factions that have been around for a very long time.
It seems like information is big because then people can be skeptical of these edicts that come down from the government.
And it's working.
It's working.
You can already see they don't look happy by the way.
The Chuck Schumans of the world, they look like they're under the gun for the first time.
They look like they're under pressure.
They seem to be running around, scurrying around a little bit, you know, because they're worried about getting caught.
They feel like they're worried about getting caught.
They don't like the pressure.
It seems like I think it is working.
I think the internet is woke up.
They're just going to retire.
They're 80 plus years old.
They'll pull up McConnell.
But I'm going to give you a little pushback on the China thing.
I guess it just comes down to whether you like actual aggression or passive aggressiveness.
Because China is kind of like the silent friend who talks shit behind your back.
Where America is like, listen, motherfucker, let me tell you what's going on, or at least used to be.
I rather, but a lot of people are rather passive aggressive.
Yes.
Well, China.
China's done a very great job of, you know, China, you know, if you look at like the Israel thing, right?
I mean, listen, you know, we have a huge, you know, commingling of interests with Israel, right?
China has been able to take more of a diplomatic, even-handed position in that, right?
Russia, Ukraine, China has kind of been able to take more of an even-handed.
Because they have no morals or values or principles, just the sustainability of the CCP.
They don't get their other than loading countries with debt, including themselves.
Well, we've loaded a lot of countries with the United States.
But at least we own it, bro.
This is American debt.
It's proud, good.
Our debt, I'm just saying, if you call me red.
If you look at it from the perspective of people that are living out there on earth, right?
Not necessarily an American perspective.
We all have an American perspective.
We want America to be the strongest country.
But let's say you're living in the Middle East.
Who are you looking at right now as the future?
America or China?
I'll answer the question.
China.
I talk to people in the Middle East.
They are not looking at the United States as the future.
They are looking at China as the future.
And one of the reasons they feel that they're putting, number one, it's the population, economy, whatever.
They have a billion people.
They have, you know, they've shown a tremendous ability to scale an economy that is outperforming ours in some metrics, not all of them.
But they also are looking at China.
And this is, again, we don't have to agree with this.
They're looking at China as a more even-handed broker of their interests than the United States.
Well, Tim, it all depends on which countries you're talking to in the Middle East because there's certainly, and this isn't even a joke, there's going to be a clash of cultures and a clash of civilizations.
But is that avoidable?
Isn't it avoidable?
I don't think it's avoidable.
I think it's inevitable and I think it's happening.
Hear me out.
So it comes down to polarity.
And there's a schism that's happening in the world right now.
There's order and chaos or there's safety or freedom.
So if you look in, like when Tucker did his expose in the Russian beautiful train systems, look how orderly and beautiful it is.
It's like, well, if you say anything or even do a little graffiti thing, no one will ever hear from you again, Navalny.
But in America, we pride ourselves, or in the West, we pride ourselves on freedoms.
But there's slippery slopes in each one.
Too much freedom in America.
You end up like in Oregon over here where they decriminalize and legalize all drugs.
They just reverse that.
Ah, maybe a little too much freedom, guys.
But if there's a little too much order and a little too much safety, like in Saudi Arabia, if you speak out against MBS, if you're Jamal Khashoggi, you end up dead.
I agree with you.
So there needs to be a balance of the freedom and the order and the safety.
It's a big world.
Not everyone's going to have the values of America.
No doubt.
That's why we can't.
We got to stop doing regime change.
Imposing democracy.
Imposing our values all over the world seems to be a foolhardy errand.
And I just think that a lot of people look at the state of our country and they don't think we have much to export right now.
I'm not a fan of the way Vladimir Putin runs Russia.
At the end of the day, there's a lot of people that are.
They're Russians.
They live there.
It's not my business.
You know, when I was a kid, we used to hear mind your own business all the time.
We never hear it now.
No kid's ever been told that.
Our parents used to say, mind your own business.
Shut up.
Who cares?
Good point.
Why is this woman across the street leaving the guy?
Hey, mind your own business.
We heard it all the time, all the time.
Somewhere along the way, everybody's business became our business.
What I mean by that is that I don't think it's my job to tell people in Russia who've, this is society that's been around for eight, 900,000 years, whatever it is.
It's not my job to tell them to have American values, liberal values, Western values, whatever.
They want to have that.
That needs to be something internal to them.
I don't think it's our job to fight a proxy war with Russia through the Ukraine to make Russia depose Vladimir Putin and install a pro-Western guy.
If that's the plan here, because it doesn't work.
It didn't work.
You saw how we left Afghanistan.
It doesn't work.
So to me, I just look at it and I go.
I have no interest in a clash of civilizations.
I have an interest in a strong America.
When you say clash of civilizations, I then feel like we are out there selling our version of the world to people, and then other people are selling their version of the world, and then we're all fighting and paying money, and we're sacrificing lives.
I don't think that needs to happen.
So I would love to avoid that if we could.
And, you know, can we focus on America?
You know, the comment about people in the Middle East thinking China's, you know, the future instead of U.S., it depends on what media they're watching, depends on what news they're watching.
China is right now.
They have a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure.
Do you know how big China's stock market is?
The size of NVIDIA company.
No, for sure.
That's it.
$2 trillion?
Their size of one NVIDIA is the size of China's stock market.
The NVIDIA's market cap?
Yes, $2 trillion.
$2 trillion.
The Chinese population does not believe in their stock market.
Do you know where they have 70% of their wealth?
Real estate?
All real estate.
These ghost cities with everyone.
They trust real estate.
They do not trust the stock market in China at all in China.
So, you know, China has still got a lot of issues to deal with, with the problems that they're having.
Their age, well, they don't have a lot of young.
This whole one children in the world, one of the oldest countries in the world.
The bigger ones, they are the oldest country in the world.
I think the average age is like, you know, they're in the top three or top five.
38 and a half years old, 39 years old.
The average citizen is 39 years old.
I think U.S. right now is 29 and a half was last year's numbers, and India is one of the younger ones, 27, 28.
There you go.
So, but what number is that?
That's in 2020.
37 years old.
There you go.
Yeah.
So they're dealing with this.
They're trying to get kids back.
Kids to be younger and having more of them.
Their immigration, their net migration is bad.
People are leaving.
They're afraid to leave.
They're trying to find ways to leave.
And they got by our border somehow.
Yeah, and I'm not even saying that they're correct when they say.
There's an impression.
There's a perception.
Okay.
And I mean, that's not only in the Middle East.
It's in parts of Europe and parts of Asia.
There is that Eastern sphere of Russia and China.
And a lot of people would say that we would be smart to not push Russia and China together.
Which we're doing.
Which we're doing.
No, no, no.
We've already done that.
Our foreign policy.
Our foreign policy has pushed them together.
So that to me seems like not a smart move.
Except for one thing that happened this last couple of weeks.
One thing that happened this last couple of weeks.
And then we'll go into the next story.
I want to talk about something more important, like PDD and Mikmel.
That's the stuff that's right.
China's money.
Let me stand on this issue, though.
So two weeks ago, U.S. imposed, right after they killed Navalny died or got killed, whatever the story you believe in, U.S. imposed 500 sanctions on China.
Okay.
I'm sorry, 500 sanctions on Russia.
Do you know what China immediately did?
Do you know where the top four banks in the world are?
All in China.
HSPC.
Banks.
Right.
Yeah.
Out of four banks.
Do you know how many of the banks stopped doing business with Russia?
Three out of four.
Jeez.
Dropped.
Yeah.
Three out of four banks right there.
China's banks are finally getting scared by the West.
They stopped doing, only one of them is left that's doing business.
That's the agricultural one that I believe is still doing business.
The other three are like, nope.
Three out of the four banks that they go.
They accept sanctions, Russian finance institutions.
The Halt allows you more sanctions.
Yeah.
So this is what Tim is talking about right now.
There is a little bit of a division where, like, what China is trying to say is, we're not for killing your opponent.
That's kind of like publicly, because we'll do it in private, no problem.
But it won't be announced.
But this could be, you know, they did have meetings together.
They've had events together.
They've had some of this stuff.
Well, they have bricks.
I mean, that's kind of part of the what I'm saying right now.
When you do something like this, is this, and this is public?
It's not like it's private.
You cannot accept payments.
Are you kidding me?
This is pretty wild.
That's 500 sanctions we put on Russia.
And by the way, do you know what's the first thing Trump's planning on doing when he comes?
One of the first things he wants to do, bring back all, you know, the sanctions towards Iran, all the stuff he was doing with China.
He's bringing that back.
So U.S. is taking, the left is taking the approach Trump took with China and Iran, U.S. is taking that with Russia is what they're doing.
Again, going back to the proxy war.
But, you know, it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
I watched a guy today who was speaking at CPAC, a clip today, that said the next 10 months are going to be the wildest 10 months you're going to see, okay?
With games, manipulation, stuff that we're not even, they haven't even launched yet.
That's going to be happening.
Will happen.
But, you know, I think to them, you know what this is?
If the left's motives, Chuck Schumer, what he said, if all of this stuff is true, guess what they can't do?
Let me tell you what they cannot do.
You can't lose this game.
So think elections as, let's just say, you know, game seven, right?
The first two, first to four wins, you know.
So they've been, since Obama got in after Bush, they won one game, one term.
They won two games, two terms.
They lost one.
So it's two to one, okay?
Because Trump won.
They won one, which is Biden.
They're now three to one playoffs.
They win this.
It's over.
They win it.
Right.
This is so important.
If they lose this, guess what it is?
3-2.
Well, thank God they have a great candidate.
That's right.
Joe Biden is the go.
Nobody's ever gotten 81 million votes.
I mean, you know, I don't know how they're going to run this guy.
I'm hoping they, I want a little May surprise.
They pull him and throw somebody else in.
But Newsom's would tank.
Michelle Obama won't do it.
And there's no, I mean, in theory, she would be good, maybe, but I don't know if in practicality, I don't know who they got.
I don't know who they got.
Tim, we got a little bet going on around here.
I don't know who they got.
They think they're going to pull Biden.
I think they're going with the courts.
I talked to people at Palm Beach who in Bar-Lago people who believe they're going to pull him in May.
This is not a conspiracy theory.
Well, I mean, it's something that's around diology.
But there are people that believe, there are people that genuinely believe Trump is not running against Biden.
They're in his campaign.
They believe that he's running against someone else.
It might be Gavin Newsom.
They don't know.
They believe Biden gets pulled in May.
Why May?
Because our friend Tom was usually here.
He thinks it's going to be in August.
Well, when is their convention?
13th.
It's the August 13th.
No, so I think we're going to be able to do it.
Which I feel like incredibly late in the game.
The reason they would pull him in May is because then you had right into the summer.
No one cares.
People are not paying as much attention.
I'll be in Mika.
The person wouldn't get a ton of scrutiny over the summer.
They would be kind of crowned at the convention.
Then they got a few months and then boom.
There you go.
By the way, did you see Spider-Man?
Yeah.
They are trying to get in one of the movies in Spider-Man.
They showed Michelle Obama 20, but it didn't say the number.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
They had Michelle Obama in the movie Spider-Man in the back.
Like you can miss it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It's one of these.
She wants to do it.
Don't you think she's going to do it?
How was Spider-Man's movie Easter Egg teased Michelle Obama's candidacy?
Oh, weird.
But it only shows 20.
It doesn't show the other numbers.
So if you go a little lower, maybe control F 20.
If you control F20, it'll come up, Rob.
Can you control F20?
There you go.
Boom.
Hit it again.
Papa, go one more time.
Right there.
So in a blink, you'll miss it in a moment.
Across the Spider-Verse, we see a sticker on the wall of Miles' room that reads Michelle Obama 20, but you don't see the other numbers.
But what they're basically saying is, leave it to your imagination.
We've got 76 more years to run Michelle Obama.
No.
Until 2100 when the numbers change.
But going off of what Tim said, let's be honest.
Unless he has a body double or they drug him up, there's absolutely no way he can go up against Trump.
They can't rip him.
They cannot do it.
I fully agree with all you guys.
They're going to run this corpse.
And they're going to drug him up.
And he's running.
Tim, he's still their guy.
Hold on.
And I get it because nobody's going to be able to do it.
I'm looking at what's in front of me.
My thing is.
He's eating ice cream and campaigning.
And sanity, dementia, Alzheimer's, whatever the hell is going on.
The odds are, that's the Vegas odds.
We don't think.
We're awake.
But who, besides Gavin, because that's the only one that's out going to all these debates, Republican National College.
He's everywhere.
That little snake doing his, he's revering Biden.
Michelle, I don't think she wants to.
I think it's, especially because Obama and them are running the show.
Hey, you have to, for the sake of the party, I know you're selling out arenas talking about God knows what.
We need you.
Get your ass in there.
Give us this four years.
He doesn't believe that.
It's not like I'm super excited about campaigning for Biden.
I just think that they're going to run with him.
Would you vote for Michelle Obama instead of Trump?
I'm not voting for anyone on the left these days.
I think it's all a joke.
I've got that attitude.
But I will tell you who's making some waves.
And his numbers are going up and his name is Bobby Kennedy, and he's 20 to 1 now.
No, they'll never run him.
They'll never run him.
Who do you mean they're never going to run him?
The Democratic Party.
Well, no, he's going to run as an independent.
He'll never win.
Well, his odds.
Well, according to the odds, he's got a 20 to 1 shot.
Michelle, look where Michelle is.
I'm just following the money here, guys.
It's going to be Trump unless they throw a, there's some type of, I don't know.
You know, there's got to be like an October surprise that's really, like you said, very exciting.
But I think if they run Biden, they lose.
I don't know who they could run where I would.
I mean, on paper, Michelle's a good candidate.
We don't know how she would do.
You just don't know.
You don't know.
On, you know, on paper, she's a good candidate.
We don't know.
The other people, there's no name recognition with like a Gretchen Whitmer or these are VP candidates that are surfacing.
But I got to ask you this.
Yeah.
Look, Ross Perot, 1992, made some ways as a third-party candidate.
This guy was five foot four, and he talked like this.
And he kind of kind of was kind of like a John McKinne kind of can.
Bobby Kennedy's a legit dude.
Other than his raspy voice.
You've had him on the podcast, great podcast.
I like him a lot.
Cheryl, even Theo Vaughn said that he would vote for him in his head.
Why do you think he's got a chance?
Because the numbers are not at all trending in the direction where you would put him in the running.
He's not, if you look at the polls, I mean, this is not.
I mean, just as an analyst, again, I like him and I think he would probably be a really good president as much as you can judge anyone for a job, right?
You know, you hiring is Gary Vee said once hiring is guessing.
He told that, he said that to me, and that kind of made sense, I guess.
But I don't think that you could like predict how he gets Trump, you know, and whoever else in the Democrat.
Do you see RFK winning against Trump?
No.
No.
I think if you get those three guys, you know, the old and senile versus the old and angry and versus the fit and vocally challenged RFK.
If you get them on a debate stage, I truly think that RFK is going to make noise and waves and call out both sides.
I feel like there's such a yearning in this country for a third-party candidate.
Do you see any way you're putting your money on RFK beating Trump?
There's not, there is not a possibility.
Patrick would not put a dollar on that.
He's the only candidate that actually has a favorable approval rate.
By the way, and it's great.
I mean, you ought to go bet on this.
If you're 20 to 1, put $1,000.
You want $20,000 a month.
You know what?
Maybe I would.
I like him.
I like him.
Yeah, there's nobody here.
I don't think anybody here doesn't like him.
I think the part that you have to be thinking about is the following.
So remember how Vivek, everybody would ask and say, how the hell is Vivek only at 7% or 8%?
This is so weird.
Why is he at 7 or 8%?
Because his message was 100% the same message as Trump's message, which means what?
If there was no Trump, Vivek would be at 52%.
Yep.
So you have no idea how curious I am where Vivek would be in 2028.
Wow.
I am so curious to see where he would be in 2028 because maybe it's because the mathematical side of me where I just kind of want to see, is that really the reasoning?
Because establishment, he's not an establishment investigator.
We've known Vivek's name for maybe 24 months, and that's generous.
The Kennedy name is as everlasting and as great of an advocate.
We're going to go back to it.
I'm going to go to the next step.
No, no, what I'm saying is we've known Trump for 50 years.
Right.
Biden's been a politician 50 years.
It's name recognition.
Then guess what?
Then Vivek doesn't have it.
Oh, you're ready for this.
That's all I'm saying.
The Michelle, the Obama name, you know, those 81 million votes that Biden got?
They're going to go for her 1,000%.
She will not have it.
She won't do it.
I'm not a believer in Michelle.
I don't think she has an interest in it.
I think she has to.
I think she has to forget that.
I don't think she has an interest in it.
Do you want to bet?
I wonder if you believe this is a dark business.
Yeah.
Here's what you have to believe.
How much do you think Michelle cares about her and her husband's legacy?
A good amount.
What's a good amount?
Is that a number one?
Is that a top three?
Do they value their legacy more than their freedom and their ability?
Yes.
They might feel that this tarnishes their legacy.
Because by the way, here's the other thing.
She doesn't beat Trump.
Sorry.
She doesn't.
Michelle Obama doesn't beat Trump in the general.
This is such a cooked up idea.
I even have fallen prey to it myself, but I don't know if she wins.
I think it might be the best chance, but still, do you see Michelle?
And I mean, I ask you again, you're a business guy.
Are you putting money on Michelle beating Trump?
No, that's not the question, though.
That's not the question.
The question is the following.
Do you believe legacy is the most important thing to them or the life they live, the lifestyle of the rich and famous celebrity Hollywood George Cruz?
What do you think they value the combination, but I do think legacy is a big consideration.
Okay, do you think they became presidents by themselves or a lot of people?
Okay.
So do you think a certain set of puppet masters helped them become presidents?
Great.
Then guess what?
They're owned.
Then if you're owned, then the people who own are going to come knocking on the door.
And do you think in the political space, the people.
Not everything you own behaves the way you want.
Watch this, though.
But let's stay on this topic here.
Remember how this whole thing you were saying, conversation starts with this and it leads somewhere, right?
Yeah.
Comedy curiosity.
Okay, fair.
But do you think the people who owned and pushed have intel on them that nobody else has access to, including the world?
You and I?
Absolutely.
Fair enough.
So what if that meeting?
Do you think a meeting would take place where the meeting goes like this?
Michelle, we're going to need you to run.
And she's going to fight it.
And he's going to fight it.
And then it's going to say, we don't want to make this bad and ugly.
We want this thing to be civil.
We don't want all the information to come out.
We work very hard to protect your legacy.
I think you know the other people will not be happy because it's always going to be the other people are not going to be happy because they helped you get there.
They want you to run and they're willing to back you up and they're going to put $2 billion up and you're going to be running for four years.
We can put somebody else after that.
But for now, we're going to need you to run.
Do you think that kind of a meeting has taken place?
I think that the problem I have with that kind of meeting, number one, is I think that whatever they have on the Obamas would severely damage the Democratic Party.
I don't think they would leak stuff that would damage the Democratic Party if these are Democratic power brokers.
I also don't know how convinced they are that Michelle Obama would beat Trump.
I'm not convinced.
I just am not convinced.
I think it might, you know, on paper, it looks good, but think about it.
Have we ever seen Michelle Obama in any type of political debate?
Have we ever, we've never seen her as a politician?
No.
The reason she's so popular is because she's never gotten into the muck.
When they go low, we go high.
All that stuff.
She's been able to have the luxury of doing that because she's been a political spouse.
If she becomes a politician, I mean, Hillary Clinton lost twice to a first-term senator.
Michelle's more likable than Hillary.
Hillary's the least liked person in America.
For sure.
But Michelle has the advantage of never having been a politician.
She's a politician.
She hasn't had to get down and dirty.
She hasn't had to ever really, you know, she's never been back against the wall fighting.
Trump won, and he had never been a politician.
You know, he had never done that.
He's a much different character than Michelle.
Trump is a monster in a good way.
He's funny.
He's been in every rap song ever.
He had to get president of the city.
Guys, let me tell you.
So listen, are you convinced that them's are going to give up this one loss and go three to two and let Trump run?
No, I fully do not think they want to.
I'm shocked that Gavin Newsome's odds aren't higher than Michelle's.
I don't get it.
Think about it.
And Tim, to go to your point, but to go a little bit backwards, she was recently on the On Purpose podcast where she said, I am terrified about what could possibly happen if Trump wins in 2024.
It's basically saying, that's every Democrat.
No, no, no, no.
But for her to be saying, hold on, there's, I'm worried, she's terrified.
That means she's basically saying she's losing sleep because of this threat.
These are just little nuggets.
That doesn't mean she's going to run, though.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Let's go to the next story.
We'll see.
Let's go to the next story.
So, Epstein, okay?
Yeah.
Ron DeSantis yesterday comes out, and you saw what Rob, if you want to, do we have that story here, Rob, somewhere?
DeSantis, right there.
Okay, page four.
Ron DeSantis signs legislation, okay, to authorize the release of Jeffrey Epstein's grand jury documents.
New legislation signed by Florida governor will allow public release of the jury's transcript from 2006 probe into Epstein's abuse of underage girls.
The new measure goes into effect July 1st.
Epstein pleaded guilty to state charges and sentenced to 18 months in jail after cutting a deal with federal prosecutors in 2008.
He was required to register as a sex offender.
The law would shed some light on the grand jury testimony and would have limited expectations, exceptions to provide greater insight.
DeSantis said the public deserves to know who participated in the Epstein sex trafficking.
Nobody should be protected from facing justice due to their wealth or status.
And those who harm children should be exposed and punished to the fullest extent of law.
Tim, what do you think is going to happen here with Epstein?
You think we're really going to eventually find out who the people are or not?
I don't know.
I mean, they keep doing this, right?
I mean, this is like the ninth time they've said this.
They're like, no one should be above the law.
I mean, it's like, this is all they say all the time.
They go, no one should be above the law.
And you go, okay.
And then nothing really ever happened.
It's the same five people you've heard.
It's like Prince Andrew, it's the same.
And then they go, well, you know, we're going to now release this thing.
I don't know.
I just, I think you have to wait and see if you ever figure if these people all run the world and they all have all this money and they all have all this power.
And I think all of those things are true.
I believe those things.
I mean, are you going to, are we going to, are they going to be, are people knocking on the door?
Like, I can't imagine that we're going to find out all of the, you know, the perpetrators of these acts.
You think there's going to be Jelaine?
She's the fall guy or fall girl.
And that's who it is.
And that's the only accountability.
No, you know, I don't know.
Things are so chaotic now that you could see stuff leaking.
But I mean, has the other shoe dropped?
Have we?
They've also done this amazing job, right?
And I've made fun of them for this on my show: they've been like, well, all these names are out, but this means nothing.
It proves nothing.
It suggests nothing.
Clinton was on his plane a bunch of times and he's mentioned 50 times in the documents, but it doesn't mean anything.
The media comes out and goes, doesn't mean anything.
It's just, I think they've watered it down to the point where, like, whatever names come out now, people are going to go, well, yeah, but that doesn't mean they did anything.
It just means that they knew the guy.
They've done a good job of watering down what these things actually mean.
And to a point where I think people are kind of like, well, sure, he was mentioned 50 times in the court documents.
But what does that even mean?
And the media has also done a good job because nobody's reading those documents.
They just look at pictures.
And they've also done a good job of infusing a couple Trump pics in there, which, even though he wasn't on the plane or he wasn't, but they'll infuse that to be like, well, they're all doing it.
You got one gift for Christmas.
Okay.
Santa's only going to do one for you.
Okay.
Out of all this stuff that you could find out about, like who was behind the election fraud Trump 2020, did anybody like, was there something going on there?
You know, China, COVID, were they behind it?
And Fauci's involvement with, you know, all the additional thinking IH.
A hundred percent list of the names on Epstein.
Every single thing you can know with this.
John F. Kennedy assassination, who was behind it.
You put that on the list as well.
The moon landing, was it real?
Was it not real?
9-11, was Lex Wexner behind it and all these other money people?
And, you know, was it an explosion?
Was it this?
If out of all of those things, you can, you can, by the way, Biden laptop, the big guy, the money, Roswell, New Mexico, aliens.
Any of those guys, you can have one gift from Santa.
Which one do you want?
9-11 is where I grew up with 9-11.
That was the seminal event of my childhood.
So to me, I would want to know what the deal is a little bit more than I do.
I'm not even saying that it's like an inside thing, but I would want to know, like, why did we protect Saudi Arabia?
Were those guys?
I'm curious, people, if you're listening as well, but go.
Where do we run the intelligence?
Yeah, like, what's the deal?
Exactly how it happened, up to the minute how it happened.
Is it exactly what they say?
I would just be interested in that because that was a big event of my childhood.
Is it minute for minute exactly what they say?
Are those 19 guys random guys from the Middle East?
Were they trained intelligence people?
How did all of that happen?
That to me would be very interesting.
I think I know a lot of the other ones, or at least I'm of the belief that the Epstein thing would not shock you.
If the names came out about the Epstein thing, it wouldn't shock you.
You'd be a bunch of billionaires and world leaders.
You'd go, right, right.
You wouldn't be shocked.
Kennedy would be the CIA, wouldn't shock you.
COVID would be a joint lab of the U.S. and China in Wuhan where there might have been a leak.
Was it intentional or not?
We don't know.
But that's all kind of there.
RFK's book talks about that.
You know, I don't know that those would be that shocking.
They might be.
I don't know.
You know, the laptop, Hunter Biden, is a good question.
I mean, I don't know.
I love what's at the top of your list.
What's the top of your list?
I got one.
I was going to say, because being from young, being from the middle of the day, you may even say something I haven't even said.
Yeah, because I'm a big, mind you, I don't believe absolutely nothing.
And I worked for the government.
I was in the military.
No one knew.
You may even say the flu game for Michael.
I mean, you can, because priorities are different, right?
For people.
Different priorities.
But, because I, dude, we know, I'm saying my firm opinion.
We know what happened with 9-11.
I would definitely love to know what the plan was.
Did they put explosives in to make sure everything went down?
I'd love to know that.
But right now, the hottest thing on my list right now, I would want every single one of those tapes that they have of Epstein that he recorded everything.
I want that played, and I want to show every single one of these assholes from Clinton to everybody.
Hold on, in the courtroom, huge, not a regular one, big courtroom.
And I want to play every, because they have those tapes.
That's Bill Clinton right there.
That's you with the underage girl.
Put his ass in jail.
I want accountability for every child, every underage child that's been their lives ruined by all these elites.
And I want accountability held by all these assholes.
I'm shocked you didn't say the Taylor Swift thing.
I mean, you've been granting and raving.
I didn't know the truth about her.
Explaining for the enemy.
She's a witch.
But anyway, what do you got?
What do you got?
I mean, all these are completely explainable.
9-11, some of the stuff, you know, coincidence theories to use that term.
Thank you.
You know, it could have just been as simple as these Islamic hijackers wanted us inspired by Osama bin Laden wanted to crash the planes, okay?
It could have just been as simple as the CIA and was it Alan Dulles and he was fired after the Bay of Pigs invasion and your buddy Sirhan Sirhan, you know, the Bobby Kennedy situation.
CIA, it could just be as simple as Epstein was doing some weird, shady shit, blackmailing people.
I'm giving you a couple different things.
Anything that has to do with aliens and space, I want to know what that is.
And here's why, and here's what, and by the way, and this is not to insult you.
Yes.
That is the conspiracy for stupid people.
Aliens?
Aliens.
It's just under ghosts in terms of what dumb people want to know about.
It's the thing that's not.
You see people, you see Air Force people talking about when aliens or ghosts come up, dumb people's eyes bulge out of their head.
They go, Yes, it's my time.
You know why?
Because we don't know shit about shit.
These other ones affect our lives.
We know the people.
As you said, they should be brought to justice.
Listen, there was just an alien sighting in Miami.
Everyone saw them, bro.
Everyone saw them.
I woke up to that Miami at the mall with the aliens.
I go, who cares if it's true?
Do you think we landed on the moon?
Probably.
You can't even stand for something, Tim.
There's no effect on my life.
The aliens?
Aliens have no effect on our lives.
None.
What about the illegal aliens?
Come through the moon.
Sorry.
I mean, by the way, good and bad, you know, but you know what Biden's calling them now, by the way.
What?
They're no longer illegal aliens.
They're now called newcomers.
Oh, God.
Welcome, newcomers to America.
That sounds better.
It's branding, guys.
Everyone thinks Trump's the branding guy and the marketing guy.
The newcomers.
Here it is right here.
Biden's prison to the Mexico border.
He called the Legal Government Coming from the Country.
Hey, welcome, newcomers.
That sounds come on, come on, Bianito.
That sounds better when one of them kills a girl like Lake in Georgia.
Ready for this?
She was killed by an illegal alien or a newcomer raped and murdered her.
It has softens it.
Rob, can you pull up that one clip?
And by the way, pull up that one clip I sent you of the guy in what do you call it?
Tim, whatever you said, my phone's blown up with text messages of people liking what you said.
But can you pull up?
Probably calling me dumb.
I'm sorry.
It was indirect.
She was indirect.
He just said he cannot blanket.
Can you pull up?
Tim, everyone needs haters.
I crave you to get as many as possible.
Some people just live their life.
Pull up this clip.
This is by the way.
There's nothing funny about this clip, but Jen shared this with me while I was out of town in St. Augustine.
I'm like, what the hell is go ahead and play this clip, okay?
Who is it?
What in the actual fuck?
Seriously, this is why my goddaughter is not allowed to have social media.
I was just waiting in line at a pet store just to get dog food, and there was a full-grown man standing in line in front of me, like so much back hair peeking out, but not very much on top, looking like a werewolf with alopecia.
And I can see him on his phone, scrolling Instagram.
And every single post was little girls, like small baby children.
And he literally stopped on some mommy bloggers' post and zoomed in to certain parts of that photo.
And I did confront him.
I said, What are you doing?
And he fumbled his phone away and said, Nothing.
I said, Well, it looked like you were being a P-word.
And this man actually had the nerve to look at me in my gay little eyes and say, We don't like that term.
It's actually minor attractiveness.
Oh, the maps.
That's the point.
Okay, so here's what I'm doing.
This person, the very effeminate gay person catching pedophiles, should run instead of Michelle Obama.
This person has it.
This is good.
I like getting Democratic kids back.
This guy, you're acting like a.
I'm not assuming that he's gay, but if you think America's ready for a gay president like this, what do you mean?
We probably already know what I'm saying.
Yeah, if they're catching pedophiles and goals, that's the most American thing you can do.
Michael Brown.
Michael Brown.
I'd vote for him.
What is the, what was that?
I mean, what is it?
I don't know what the post is.
I mean, what is that?
You know why I brought this up?
Because we said newcomers, like the terms they're changing.
Okay.
And I said, minor attracted person, how they're changing the name.
Is that true, though?
Is anyone doing that?
I mean, they call it MAPS.
Bro, they got an acronym for it.
Oh, yeah.
I have not heard about it.
It's the new ISIS.
I've heard about MAPS in the sense that, like, it's a joke, but I didn't know that was a real thing.
I thought it was like an internet troll, but that's crazy about what actually happened.
And the Edge, medical doctor Edge, minor attracted person.
Can you click on this and we can read it?
We'll actually go to Tim.
This is good.
We're getting smarter today.
So the definition of minor attracted personality.
Dude, check this out.
Almost hilarious.
This is crazy.
Go a little low.
They're neglected people too.
By the way, both people who wrote it is Janet and Renee.
They're both doctors.
Go low, Rap.
Of course.
Approximately one in five Americans report childhood sex abuse.
50 to 65% child abuse.
In the absence of pedophilic interest.
Anyways, this goes on and you can go to the prior page, Rap.
I heard a bunch of people talking about it.
Go bottom to see if there's a Wikipedia that explains this as well.
National Institute, go up a little bit on the minor attracted persons.
No, it's real.
Yeah.
You have to soften that word.
Dude, pedophilia gets such a bad rap.
Sickos are scumbags.
Some of these newcomers might be maps.
What do you think?
Imagine that.
Imagine what he's doing.
I had no idea that was an app.
I thought it was a troll on the internet.
You know, certain things are like jokes, but I mean, now we're living in a time it's hard to know what is and isn't real.
Oh, what is and isn't a child.
Let me ask you.
You're in line at Starbucks and you experience similar things.
A guy, mid-50s, 60s, is looking at girl pictures, six years old, eight years old, ten years old.
What do you do?
I record him watching that, and then I confront his ass.
I'm stepping to his.
What do you do?
Is it just mind your own business?
Do we go back to him to green light a show for me on NBC?
I mean, or on the BBC.
That was great.
That was a little too good.
That was perfect.
That was a little too good.
They would never tell.
Well, but that cult of personality.
I would record him doing it, and then I would follow him to his car and get his license plate and have all that on footage and send it to the copy.
You got a nephew.
What are you doing?
He's doing that.
If he's doing that, what is he getting ready to do?
He's setting himself.
He's priming himself.
What should you do if you see that, though?
I can't punch him.
I don't want to go to jail for punching him, but I'm going to record him in his car.
Period.
I think you just start off with a lot of people.
License plates may be a good idea.
See something, say something.
Maybe somebody's already looking for the guy.
Like maybe he's, I don't know, a sex offender and he's already doing something.
I don't know.
But guys, he likes dogs.
I mean, he's buying dog stuff.
He's at least nice to dogs.
Well, in any situation, it's kind of like what Tim said: there's the mind-your-business factor, and then there's the you see something, say something factor.
I think if you see that, you start with a, you good, bro?
And see how he responds.
Well, what if he points?
No, if he's like, oh, oh, mind your business.
Well, that's what he's like, no, this is my granddaughter, and I love her.
Like, I would want a little more clarity before I'm recommending the authorities.
One time I'm on a flight, okay?
And a 50-year-old man is sitting in front of us.
I'm dating this girl.
And this other girl, 13 years old, pregnant, is sitting in front of us.
Okay.
13.
She looks 13 on a good day.
Okay.
Okay.
And the girl I'm with points it out, says, Can you do me a favor?
Listen to their conversation.
So I'm listening to their conversation.
And I'm like, what is he asking?
Like, who is this person to this person?
So I go to the bathroom.
I come back.
I want to see her face.
Okay.
You can tell she does not look normal.
There's something that's going on.
You can tell he looks like a full-on asshole.
Okay.
Are they sitting next to each other?
Next to each other, okay.
Where's your flight going?
Where are you going?
I don't know what it is, but it was long enough where he can try to start a conversation to learn.
What does she do?
She starts asking her questions.
Hey, hi, how are you?
So, where are you from?
And she's sparking a conversation.
So, imagine like two seats here, two seats here.
I'm not first class, we're sitting in you know, second class type of stuff.
Yeah, so we're this must have been years ago, people.
This is 25 years ago, years, years ago, years ago.
So, anyway, so we're sitting there, and then she starts talking, and she gets upset.
Hey, mind your own business.
Oh, so at this point, we're like, dude, something's going on.
He says, What should we do?
I said, Talk to the flight attendant.
So, goes and talks to the flight attendant.
The flight attendant then comes back and starts talking to the girl, okay?
And a girl is getting nervous, and the guy says, This is my uh granddaughter.
Says, Really?
It's your granddaughter, yes, but he's fumbling, he can't answer.
Of course, okay, it was a weirdest exchange of what took place.
They on the flight out, they called the cops.
The flight attendant called the cops.
The cops took the we don't know what happened afterwards, by the way, but the cops took the guy, the guy, and the girl, and they went to a room from there.
We have no idea what happened.
Wow, so this some of this stuff is happening, and sometimes that kid-you know, they said there's a sign like if somebody is kidnapping you, you're in a carrest.
There's a sign that you put a hand out, and that sign is a sign of being you're being kidnapped.
No, it's actually the sign is in the car.
If you pull the window down, the kidnapper is not going to let you pull the window down.
You have to have a certain sign that you do here, and apparently, that's the sign that you've been kidnapped.
Yeah, so hold on.
After you get off the flight and they took him away, where did Bill Quinn go after that?
You're funny, you're funny.
Where did Bill go?
But the point is, these types of people are out there.
I think half the time is awareness, asking the question.
You could have really changed somebody's life there by helping.
You know, that's a good thing.
No, the fact that we went to the flight attendant and the cops took over, we're waiting outside at the gate, nothing comes out.
No, we had no idea what ended up happening with the girl.
I never look even in the back of the plane.
Patrick, Patrick, I'm telling you right now that the human trafficking that could be going on in coach, I would have no, I have no idea.
One second curtain is closed.
I mean, the bombs they could be making in coaches.
They could be running sweatshops.
I would have no idea.
Illegal child labor, knitting Gucci handbags.
I have no idea.
And if you're getting human trafficked in first class, it's like it could be worse.
So I don't get involved.
By the way, craziest story on flights that you've been on.
Who has been the craziest person on a flight with you?
That they don't travel with you, that you were flying and you're like, we're in LA, so you've flown a lot of weird people.
So who was on a flight like that guy was on?
I got a few of them.
Who was yours?
I've had some interesting people.
I had Chelsea Hander on a flight once, and I don't made fun of Chelsea a few times as if in a fight.
Is there anything more fun than that?
She's fun, and she just, she was very kind of like, I don't know.
I don't think she even knew who I was or whatever, but she sat like right there.
And that was when I wasn't in first class.
I was behind.
And she was, you know, she was very kind of like abrupt looking and tough.
And, you know, she was, you know, that New York to LA run or the LA New York.
They're a tough group of people that just keep going back and forth.
That's a six-hour nightmare fight.
And, you know, she was fun.
I had Gail King once, Oprah's lover.
Wow.
Oprah's lover.
You see how you flip that through doing that?
She's a billionaire.
She deserves a lover.
In Palm Beach.
Of course, for sure.
Monica.
I Gail King.
But yeah, to me, it's always people that are very demanding that are my favorite.
We were on a very short flight once from like, I don't know, it was like Cincinnati to New York.
It was really, really short.
It was not a long flight.
And there was just a, you know, a guy who had like, you know, he smoked a cigarette in the bathroom.
They had to make him sign a paper.
He had to like sign some document acknowledging that he smoked in the bathroom.
It was just like, it's an hour and 10-minute flight.
It's just, there's certain people on planes you feel bad for.
You go, man, you're in a bad way.
Like something, if you can't, something's not.
Can't smoke a cigarette for two hours.
If you can't, whatever your thing is, I mean, it just seems you got something, PBD?
I got one.
I had somebody that had a heart attack and they were like, you know, when they stand up on, no, I'm dead serious.
And they're like, is anybody?
You hear the intercom.
They're like, is there a medical, anybody, doctor, nurse?
That'll freak you out.
By the way, when that happens, other people start having anxiety attacks.
Holy shit, what do you mean?
And I'll listen.
So I stood up.
I'm like, I'm not a dad.
That's the worst on a flight.
I can cheer them up.
I'm like, I can make the guy laugh.
He's going on his way out.
But the guy literally had a heart attack.
He survived.
Not good.
I've had some cool people on flights, but the most memorable story wasn't even on the flight.
It was in the airport.
And this was a story from like 10 years ago.
I went to, you know, there's a bunch of big insurance companies in Fort Wayne, Indiana, as you know.
And it's right near where my family lives in Detroit.
And I remember it was Easter.
And my grandmother, neurotic Jew, she's like, there's a flight on Easter.
You gotta, it's gonna be crazy there.
And we gotta get you there super early.
Cause usually, if you know, you go an hour early, two hours early.
I'm there four hours early before a flight because grandma thinks that Easter is going to be the travel day of the year.
Turns out airport was completely empty because nobody's traveling on Easter.
They're already where they got to go.
So I go to this bar and they're like, you know, they're taking down the stools of the bar.
And I look over and I'm like, that is the tallest black guy I've ever seen in my life.
Like his leg was basically touching Tim Dylan over here.
And I go, holy shit, that's Minute Bowl.
No way.
And I go over there and I go and I he's arguing on the phone.
He's like, it be all and I want to change my flight.
And he's like yelling with like he's African, right?
And the lady has no clue what he's saying.
I mean, he's going to change his flight no matter where he goes.
No, he couldn't.
He could he couldn't change his flight.
I'll give you a ended up drinking at the bar with Manut Ball for four hours.
I paid the bill.
It was amazing.
And he was the most likable guy ever.
Bo Bowl.
He says the first Wemby before there was a Wemby.
So one time, Ron Jermy was on a flight.
Fast.
Really, PBD.
You should have seen the way people reacted to Ron Jeremy.
It was so funny.
Suge Knight.
Okay.
That's funny.
Girls were flirting with Suge Knight.
Bill O'Reilly, while I'm going to Vegas, he was doing this show with Dennis Miller.
This is when I was traveling a lot from Burbank and LA.
But the most interesting one was Quiet Riot.
You remember the band Quiet Riot or heavy metal, whatever.
Type in Quiet Riot.
These guys were a heavy metal band.
Yeah, these guys.
They're all the way in the back of the flight.
Okay.
And these guys were massive.
This lady comes up and says, hey, you know, starts flirting with him.
I says, ma'am, you know how tired I am right now.
I am so not into it.
This is not the 20s and 30s when we spend all our money on cocaine.
He just joked about it.
I was like, very interesting.
Sam, you know what they talk about?
It's a very interesting thing.
See, he's in the, he's sitting in the last, last, last absolute last seat.
Okay, interesting.
And they're putting their stuff, their guitars, whatever it is.
And I'm like, who are you guys?
And I'm thinking, you know, they are quiet right.
And I mean, quiet right today, you're not going to know who they are.
They're very quiet these days.
80s, mental health, 80s, 90s, they were like one of the top, top guys.
The hairbands.
The average person is not going to recognize them.
The noise.
Those guys will.
Yeah.
Come feel the noise.
It's not spelled like that.
It's not spelled like that, yes.
C-O-M-E.
I just got a spelling Garrett Diddy up.
Anyways, okay.
Let's do the last one and then we'll wrap up.
So Vinny, what's going on with this P. Diddy stuff?
Maybe give me the P. Diddy.
Have you heard anything about the Diddy thing, Tom?
I mean, I hear he's being charged with rape or something.
So he's being charged.
There's a new lawsuit right now by Rodney Littlerod Jones, and he's just— Dude, apparently, allegedly, in all these court documents, Diddy is like the Epstein of the rap game.
So they're saying he's had orgies.
He had, you know, he apparently shot a guy, but, you know, because he had this security guard named Fahim Muhammad, who was Diddy's security guard.
You know who else's security guard he was?
Michael Jackson's security guard.
He was like the second person on the scene when he died.
So he's saying it goes back 30 years of sexual blackmail.
Usher, Meek Mill, Justin Bieber, all these people are inside of it.
Justin Bieber.
Bro, he's saying, I mean, if you're going to take advantage of a little kid, he's cute.
Hold on.
Hey, Rob, can you just show the video of like just, it's just kind of weird.
Not this one, the other one with him.
This is him hanging out with Diddy.
It's just weird.
Like, this is him.
Look how young.
As soon as you turn 16.
Like, it's just weird.
I'm going to let you rock this every time.
Look at.
He's just a little kid.
It's a little dusty, but you know.
So he's been hanging out with him.
Yeah.
How old is Bieber here, you think?
15.
All right, so I'm going to be dropping this.
So they're being accused.
So at these house parties that he was having, this is in the lawsuit.
He had underage girls.
They would spike drinks.
Everybody from the butler, the chef, the housekeeper had to walk around him with a pouch fanny pack filled with cocaine, ecstasy gummies, to whoever if Pittsburgh.
I'm still waiting for the problem.
You're so stupid.
But they accused Combs of brandishing guns, bragging about shooting people.
He hooked up with, what was his name?
Clive Davis.
And he's saying, because mind you, there's a CIA agent that came out.
His name was John Holmeson that said he admitted that the CIA created gangster rap to fill private prisons and glamorize criminality.
Basically, it's not looking good for Diddy.
It's just all the house parties, all the orgies, and this guy, these are accusations.
These are accusations in the lawsuit, but this guy is saying that they would spike all the drinks that people would just be getting shit face.
And sometimes unbeknownst to him, this guy said he woke up from getting drugged at one of these things.
And he's like, he's in a bed.
Diddy's in the bed.
Some other person's in the bed.
It's just not a lot.
What's the story?
How is Meek Mill tied to this, by the way?
Well, there's a lot of rumors going out that him and Meek Mill were hooking up.
And now Meek Mill is basically going after Tate.
By the way, this is all, again, alleged in this lawsuit, but it's like, it's not stopping for Diddy.
And then the rumor came out with Meek Mill with Diddy.
And then what it tape.
Maybe go on to Twitter.
I'm still trying to see like, so what is this?
So the story is the only thing I saw, I saw the fact that pull up the Meek Mill tweet, whatever that is.
And what?
You had it on earlier, right?
Look at Pat.
You know what he's saying?
That he was, Diddy had cameras set up all over the house like Epstein, and he was blackmailing everybody that was coming to the house.
So Andrew Tate tweets.
So P. Diddy was having sex with Meek Mill and Usher.
Question mark, right?
Meek Mill retweets, quote retweet, and says, was you trafficking women?
The fuck is wrong with you, Brody?
And then Andrew Tate asks, I only asked the question because everyone is saying it happened.
By the way, everybody's talking about it, so that's why they're calling him, you know.
By the way, that tweet today is 41 million views.
Wow.
It's eight and a half there, but it's 41 minutes.
The question is, why would you respond like that, Meek Mill?
So you responding, you're kind of not.
You're not saying, what are you talking about?
But they're saying for 30 years, because think about it, Diddy, bad boy, dude, Diddy went 24 years old.
They're saying he helped kill Tupac.
Biggie dies.
He is at 24 years old owning Bad Boy Records.
The Clive Davis relationship with him, they're saying it's very, very suspect.
They gave him all this stuff, blackmailing all these people for all these years.
And now all of it's coming out that he recorded every room had cameras.
This is in the lawsuit.
So P. Diddy almost had an element of Epstein.
They're calling him the Epstein of the hip title.
So obviously you're following the story very closely.
I have no idea.
But I mean, I mean, here's the thing.
In a white supremacist country, seriously, for an entertainer, African-American entertainer like P. Diddy to even get to live a life like Jeffrey Epstein to me is a huge win for the culture, I guess.
I mean, I'm trying to put a nice positive spin on it.
You know, this idea that here's a kid who positivity today is underprivileged, underprivileged.
And now, look, he's got a mansion.
He's blackmailing people.
He's having orgies.
He's got the CIA.
Everybody's on drugs.
I mean, if, you know, I know.
He made something.
Truly, to be honest, this is an area I'm behind.
I don't know anything about it.
I just, I'm a little offended, Vinny, because I'm going to go on the record here.
See, people have only said stuff about Diddy for a while.
You're in New York.
I've been saying stuff about Diddy for a while.
And I didn't hear.
I don't know.
I mean, there's probably something going on.
I don't want to slander people, but something seems.
I mean, he's been accused now of five times in this multiple months.
By the way, by the way, this is nothing new.
Not at all.
Even when I had Gray Kading on, when I was trying to find out who killed Tupac, right?
Gray Kading was the investigator, the detective that was going and trying to figure it out.
And we put all the names and we put this whole like American gangster with all the different pictures and he had to pick and choose.
Everything kind of led back to Diddy.
That's what they're saying.
The death of Mickey and the death of Tupac.
It led back to Diddy, Biggie, renewing the contract, owning all the label, everything, and then Tupac and who was behind it.
Guys, next thing you're going to tell me is that OJ probably killed two people.
I don't know where you guys are going with this right now.
I hate to be like, I'm just saying, Vinny, you know, give me a chance here, Vinny.
Yeah, my bad.
I'm just saying, I don't know.
You've been in Florida how long now?
Two years as of me.
Okay, I've been here 43 years.
Has Diddy launched any kind of like counterattack?
He's counter-suing.
Let's see how the justice system prevails.
But listen, as somebody that gets invited.
He's settled within 24 hours.
Yeah, what do you think?
With his ex-Kathan.
But as someone that gets invited sometimes to these types of parties on Star Island and Hibiscus Island and Palm Island and the Venetian Islands in Miami, you know, see something, say something, mind your own business.
I don't want to get blacklisted from these parties, Vinny.
My bad.
So anything that you're saying does not stand for what I'm saying.
I understand that.
You're talking about chicks, hot chicks, fanny packs, drugs, partying.
I'm just saying, I'm not saying I'm going.
I'm just saying I don't want to get blacklisted from this.
Let's just see what happens.
I'm reporting when there's lawsuits during art, Basil.
Diddy, just keep my invitation coming.
How about this?
I'm not going to bring Diddy.
I would gladly bring Diddy as my plus one.
I would never want to go to Diddy.
I'll say that to the, I'm Gucci.
I will tell you this.
I don't know how much I care about this.
The other day, I'm laying in bed and I'm listening to R. Kelly.
Okay.
No joke.
And nothing's going on.
I'm just listening to R. Kelly.
I'm like, babe, do you realize how many hits are you play?
What are you kidding me?
Just kind of go through all of me like this.
So many, right?
And I go on Twitter and I say, let me see what people are saying about R. Kelly today.
So I type in R. Kelly, and one guy says, I can't believe what R. Kelly did to me.
Every time I listen to one of his songs, all I realize is he probably wrote that for an underached girl.
Oh, God.
Now that ruined it for you.
Now that ruins it for you.
Yeah.
My guys tell me no.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Now you're going to, next thing you know, you're going to tell me that Michael Jackson maybe diddled some kids.
And when he wrote the song Beat It or Thriller, there was something on his mind.
I don't stand for this.
Diddy's had a lot of stories for many years.
Many years, yeah.
What happens?
It is what Shane Gillis.
Did you like Shane Gillis being on SNL?
It was amazing.
It was a great moment.
Yeah.
It was hilarious.
Great moment.
You think they're going back?
You think they're going back to getting away from woke?
I don't, I don't, it could be.
Why do you think it was such a great moment, though?
Because now they're trying to talk about shit.
They're talking about getting friends, cancer.
One of the greatest comedians of all time, really.
I mean, it just, you know, not being hired and then going back and hosting it and doing a great job.
It's just a great moment.
I think it's a beautiful thing.
And it's funny.
It's funny winning.
It's like, as a comic, I love watching funny people be funny and he was able to be funny on the show.
What do you think?
We don't grow up with that show.
It's an important show.
There's never been a show that's more important to comedy than Saturday Night Live.
Without question.
I've had little tit for tats with people on it, but I have friends that work there.
There are tons of talented people there.
It's the most important show for comedy that has ever existed.
Correct.
So, I mean, you know, I don't think it should have any particular point of view politically.
I know that it certainly has and does, and there's not so much you can do about that to an extent because it's the result of the people that work there and who write it and whatever.
But there's still a lot of talent there.
There's still, you know, Marcelo's on it and a really funny guy.
There's a lot of people I know that are really talented people there.
I just think it was a great moment.
I think it was a moment to be really happy about.
Let me ask you about it.
I mean, I grew up.
We all did stand-up comedy.
PBD.
If you wanted to get out of the business world and actually delve into stand-up comedy, I think you'd crush it too.
But, you know, whether it's the Belushi's, whether it's the Adam Sandlers, the Will Farrells, the greatness comes from there.
But you would have to agree they have gone left and gone woke, whether it was the Sarah Palin thing, whether it's the Kate McKinnon SNL thing.
Just them.
I agree.
Just them.
Every late night comedy.
It's just a great landscape of the traditional media.
Here's my question, though.
Pratt pressure from Shane Gillis.
I know we got to wrap up.
But, you know, the cancel culture is real.
You've avoided it somehow.
Even though you beat up that lady at Cracker Barrel, we saw that.
She's okay, guys.
God bless her.
Shane Gillis went on there.
It was the least woke, most hilarious SNL I've seen in years.
And Marcelo is like my little brother.
I watch all this stuff.
Now they're trying to recancel him because of his use of the R-word.
Yeah, but who's doing it?
Exactly, guys.
Guys, guys, we have to really go, what is this, 10 people on Twitter?
No one cares.
No one cares.
Everyone loved it.
We can't give oxygen to the people who've lost.
The people that were against that guy lost.
He proved he was amazingly funny.
He killed the show.
They've lost.
Don't give them any more oxygen.
Yeah.
Totally agree.
I don't know any of them in Palm Beach.
What is that?
None of them matter.
These are these bloggers, these people that are writing their crap.
No one cares.
Don't give them oxygen.
But you must agree, and I fully agree with that, that comedians are genuinely the barometer of free speech.
It's like if you're going to start silencing comedians from jokes.
But here's the deal: I'm interested in free speech for everybody, for people that work at universities, for people that work in corporate America.
Sure, for comedians, I want obviously comedians to be able to do whatever they want.
But like, it's a bigger problem than comedy.
It's an issue that we can't shut down discussions about important stuff.
And if we do, we're going to have a problem.
Awesome.
Tan, great to have you on.
Rob, can we do me, can we put the link below the man's podcast?
