Voting For Donald Trump, Biden's Faults & NYC's Downfall w/ Michael Rapaport | PBD Podcast | Ep. 364
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Okay, so look, I mean, we know the social media world, Hollywood, sports, business, politics, is filled with many amateur trolls, but there's some professional trolls.
There are some that are comfortable trolling others and getting under their skin.
Our guest today is an expert in that.
But before, I'm sure he's been a great troll his entire life, knowing how to piss people off.
He's had an incredible, interesting, unique career.
Higher learning.
I remember watching Higher Learning was in Higher Learning.
He dated Phoebe.
Guys, dated Phoebe on Friends, if I'm not mistaken.
True romance.
He was at Brad Pitt's wedding with Jennifer Aniston, seeing the wall of caviar.
And there's a bunch of different things.
He's got his own podcast called I Am Rappaport Stereo Podcast.
But the most disturbing thing about all the facts that I learned about him, this one made me feel a little bit uncomfortable.
We were actually a little bit hesitant about inviting him after I heard about this.
He is obsessed.
I mean, absolutely obsessed with the real housewives.
And that's concerning.
You know, you're somebody that knows so much about it.
With that being said, Rappaport in the house.
How you doing, man?
How you feeling?
Good to be here.
Appreciate you having me.
Big fan, big fan of the show and excited to be here.
I love it.
I love it.
I know you were talking right off the bat.
You said, you know, the unveiling, right?
The Kobe Bryant unveiling.
Of the statue.
Because today, what we're recording, 2824.
So I'm sure that had something to do with it.
And I had first really saw you when you had done that interview that, you know, we still see clips from with the late, great Kobe Bryant.
So that's kind of what my introduction to you.
And I'm a fan of the show.
So I'm excited to be here.
I got to find the locker if there's any space left.
And Rappaport, you travel with the pit bull.
Yes.
Your beautiful wife, aka Pitbull, came in here and just a beautiful.
She laid the law down.
We're fans of the show.
Don't you mess with my husband, y'all.
Well, she didn't say y'all, but she threw that one in there, Michael.
We can add them together.
But my mother-in-law is a fan of the show.
And we watch it.
Yeah, we're showing.
We watch the show.
Yeah, I mean, she came.
She straight up went for Vinny.
Oh, yeah.
Mother-in-law went for Vinny.
You go talk to that man.
Anyways, but you know, we all know one thing about Vinny.
What's that?
He's from Yonkers.
He's on Yonkers's.
You're from Yonkers.
With Yonkers.
And he got stabbed by his mother stabbed him with a butternut.
It might have been a wooden spoon that was cracked.
But listen, I got a gun, so I'm from Yonkers.
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Having said that, let's get right into it.
Where do the hardest people come out of from New York?
Like when you typically listen, it ain't where you're from, it's where you're at.
To quote the great Rock Ham Eric being rocky.
So, I mean, you know, there's tough people from everywhere and there's soft people from everywhere.
But, you know, historically, the Bronx in Brooklyn, I would say, historically, are probably the most.
You know, a lot of fighters come from Brooklyn.
You know, Mike Tyson, Riddick Bo.
I mean, there's Zab Judah, you know, Jake LaMattis from the Bronx.
So it all.
Where you from?
Where'd you grow?
I'm from Manhattan.
Grew up in New York City.
That's not the hardest, right?
Definitely not the hardest.
But, you know, they say Brooklyn keeps on taking it.
Bronx keeps creating it.
Queens keeps on faking it.
And Manhattan keeps on making it.
We're known for the money.
So, you know, Pat.
What rapper was that?
Who said that?
Brooklyn keeps taking it.
What a great line boss.
KRS1.
KRS-1.
Yeah, okay.
KRS-1, Boogie Down Productions.
Say it again.
So say the four again.
Brooklyn keeps on taking it.
Brooklyn.
Go ahead, Vinny.
Go ahead, Vinny.
You're from the Yonkers.
I love the Yonkers thing.
It ain't going no longer.
By the way, DMX, what town is right next to the Bronx?
It's Yonkers, right?
So we're that far.
Like, we're so far away.
By the way, you know who's from Yonkers?
DMX, Veloc, Jada Kiss, Mary J. Blanche, and Vinny.
And B.
And people act like they don't know like Yonkers on the map.
Like you said, he's like, it ain't where you're from, it's where you're at.
I'm right.
Finish the line from KRS1.
Don't disrespect.
Brooklyn keeps on making it.
No, Brooklyn keeps on taking it.
Bronx keeps creating it.
Queens keeps on faking it.
Manhattan keeps on making it.
I did it out of order.
Anyway, so Queens is faking then.
This is in a hip-hop line.
I didn't think he didn't get me in trouble with that.
Now Queens is going to come after him.
They know the line.
It's an iconic hip-hop line.
Michael, who were you in high school?
Who?
Who were you?
14, 15 years old.
I'm a classmate of yours.
If we interviewed five of your classmates that spend the most time with you, who was Michael Rapper?
Who were very good question.
I was shit-talking, basketball, hoop dream, having hip-hop-loving, very gregarious kid who was exploring, you know, all of New York.
But my focus was basketball and hip-hop.
And just, you know, I was just out and about, man.
But that's a good question.
But that's who I was.
I was very, very disruptive.
I got kicked out of school from the third grade to the 12th.
I went from a different school literally from the third grade to the 12th grade.
And I went to public school in New York City.
I went to Erasmus Hall High School, which is in Brooklyn, New York, and got kicked out of there.
And there were violent criminals in there.
And they asked me to leave after my 11th grade year just because they said, you told my father, you're just such a pain in the ass.
There was no incident.
There was no fires being sent.
Which one is you?
Which one is who's that picture?
He's the black guy.
Yeah.
Oh, that's Magic Johnson.
That's Magic Johnson.
Yeah.
So that was about 13 years old.
But I mean, you know, I wanted to be a basketball player and I just was a big, disruptive personality and, you know, was, you know, had a unique sort of period of time between, you know, 19, between when I was 12 and 19, because I was everywhere except for home.
Michael, when did you realize you can monetize and capitalize on being this gregarious larger than life?
To be honest, you didn't figure out the money.
You know, you said the word troll and I don't, I don't, I don't particularly like that term.
And I certainly don't consider myself that because my social media presence and the things that sort of ruffle feathers, people excite, people love, people don't love on social media are never premeditated ever, ever, ever, ever.
So when, you know, I feel like that term troll is the way you were using it.
I don't think it was disrespectful.
I think it's like you're sort of doing a concerted effort to excite and entice and excite.
And I don't, and I think if I did do that, I wouldn't be as good at it.
And if I did do that, I probably could monetize, monetize from it.
But like my social media stuff that have, that has gone viral, that people talk about good, bad, or indifferent, whether it's sports, whether it's hip-hop, whether it's political, it's always off the cuff.
It's never pre-planned or premeditated.
Like it's, it's literally, I just go.
Which one got you in the most trouble?
What did you say that got the most eyeballs and reaction?
Was it politics, sports, or hip-hop?
Man, there's probably one of each, man.
If I went through one of each, I could tell you there's been a lot of sports over the years.
It's been a lot of hip-hop over the years.
And it's been a lot of politics over the years.
Honestly, if I went over each one, it's across the board.
But, you know, the one, the introduction to my, I could say shit talking.
Of course, because I don't want to.
My introduction to shit talking outside of sports and music was after Charlottesville.
It was a Saturday morning after the you will not replace us, Jews will not replace us.
And when I was living in Los Angeles, I would take that video.
I would take my dog out for walks, and I was so taken aback that people, whatever year that was, 2017, would public, I think it was 16.
Was that the year Trump was started in 16?
Yeah, but the election was in 16, November 16, but he was sworn in January 2017.
2017, yeah.
It was like July or June of 17.
Yeah, summer of 2017.
You're right.
And I was so offended that people would publicly say Jews will not replace us as if we gave a fuck about those tiki torch khaki pants wearing disenfranchised people as if the Jewish people are trying to replace you fucking losers.
And just to speak that out loud, I was like, and that video went crazy viral.
And it was, I think, I've been a minute.
And like, you know, my dog is in it, and I'm just walking.
It's literally eight.
Rob, play for a second.
I want to see which one this is.
Last night in Charlottesville, Virginia, a bunch of white nationalists carrying tiki torches that they got from Home Depot, wearing skinny jeans, drinking coffee, came out for a protest saying, White Lives Matter, White Lives Matter.
You know, your life ain't shit.
You're a college student on a Friday night during the summertime.
You ain't getting no ass.
And you decide to come out for a protest carrying tiki torches, talking shit.
Little coffee cup carrying white nationalists.
You ain't shit.
If you was really trying to get it popping, you would have taken your little Ed Sheeran protest right over there to Virginia Beach or Newport News.
And you would have got your tiki torches stuffed up your ass.
Revenge of the nerd protesters.
Eat some pizza.
Take a few bongers.
Don't you got a fucking toga party to go to?
It's Friday night.
Try to get to second base with a girl, you fucking loser.
Talking about white lives matter, white lives matter.
Throwing up Nazi salutes.
Dorm room dumb fucks.
I bet you your dog is like, why is dad tripping the fuck out?
That's the regular dog.
Your dog is like, dad?
That was my dog passed.
That was my dog's comfort, comfort tone.
Oh, really?
So you tripped it out.
Our walks, like, he would be like, oh, he's doing a video.
But, but that at that time just went crazy, crazy, crazy viral.
But like I said, I never contrived the stuff.
It just sort of happened.
I'm like, where does that?
Because a lot, like, my, my father was, was like a composer, music.
My sister plays classical.
I played the trumpet, but I'm also a wise ass funny because I would, my father would make us entertain in front of people.
Where did you get that brash, who gives a shit attitude?
Was it family?
Was it just from the streets?
Where did you pick it up?
That's just how I came out, man.
That's it.
That's just how I came out.
I mean, you know, it's just how I came out.
And I've always sort of talked a lot of stuff.
I've tried not to curse.
And I've always, you know, sort of been good with my mouth, you know, and I wasn't as good, you know, shooting the ball as I was with my mouth, you know, as far as talking.
It's kind of like a superpower, especially, you know, when you're, you know, you're hanging out in the street.
You know, like some people could fight.
Some people could play ball.
Some people, you know, were like, you know, doing criminal stuff.
I was a good, like snapping.
We call it snapping.
That was my thing.
And that particular thing, that's not me.
Rob, I was about to say that.
I was like, who the hell is that?
Martin Luther King High School.
Yeah.
Zoom in.
Yeah, that was my last high school.
That's yours.
That's hilarious.
That's me there.
Yep.
Punch in a little bit, Rob.
Let's see our guy.
You're a lefty?
Lefty.
Lefty.
And you see, like, everybody's serious.
And I'm, this is me.
That is, that's who you said who I, who was I?
That's you.
That's who I was.
There's like one white person in the entire place.
And it's you.
Michael, you're what?
You're what, 53, 52?
How old are you?
53, 52.
Yeah, why does this look like it's from 1920s?
What's going on?
It's all black and white.
Black and white films.
White full pictures, man.
This is the 80s, dog.
1988, man.
Were you any good?
Were you a good basketball player?
I was a good player, but I mean, the levels change so quick.
When you get to like 14, 15, 16, you know, people are going through puberty.
The gap gets quick for young teenage sports.
Like, you go from at 14, it's a gap like that.
And so, you know, but I had fun and I learned so much from the camaraderie of playing ball.
And the, you know, it wasn't so much the games.
It was the going to the games on the trains.
It was the coming back from the games.
It was the practice and it was everything in between.
And I just, I just loved it, but it kept me in line.
And I was always, I had a goal, even though I didn't reach that goal.
I had a goal.
So I got so much from, you know, wanting to be a professional.
Any of these guys make it to the, did anybody make it from your high school to the next level or no?
Not from that high school, but I played with, I mean, Kenny Anderson, you know, and he's a lefty point guard.
I'd be one of the best New York players.
And, you know, I would go to basketball camps with Sean Kemp and Billy Owens.
And, you know, Billy Owens, Golden State Warriors.
Exactly.
So, yeah.
Grain man, Sean Kemp.
Yeah.
So the gap, you know, and that's when I saw that gap.
It was, it was very who was the craziest guy you saw in the gym, like in high school level.
Was it Kemp?
Was it, was it Sean Kemp?
When I was at the five-star basketball camp, was Sean Kemp that you saw with the Seattle Supersonic.
No, at what age?
18.
Literally.
So it was amazing.
And Kenny Anderson, we knew everybody in New York knew.
And I played one-on-one with Kenny, and I was good.
At 12, 12, you could be better than people.
I was bigger than Kenny.
And Kenny Anderson at 11 years old was going to the NBA.
Everybody in New York knew it.
At 11 years old.
The way he handled the ball, it's like some people are just gifted.
You know, other people work at it.
Kenny Anderson was just like, you know, a prodigy.
He was a basketball prodigy.
The way he handled the ball at when I first saw him at 11, he already had a reputation at 11.
You know, like, and this is when it's earned.
There's no social media.
So I saw a bunch of guys.
You know, I played with a bunch of great players in New York.
The late, great Malik Seely was another one.
Chris Mills, you know, I was in the high school with him the one year I went to school with Fairfax, Chris Mills and Sean Kemp.
And, you know, I was around, you know, great players.
And at that time, you could play with them, but you're not as good as them, but you could play with them.
So it was a great time.
It was a great time.
Didn't you have a thing with Brian Scalabrini at one point?
What was that?
What was all that?
All fun.
That's my guy.
Okay, that's your guy.
The white mama.
Or the white mama.
Come on, the white mama.
That's your guy.
It's like the white mama and Vinny from Yonker.
Thank you.
I saw someone that people started challenging Scalabrini.
Right.
So one-on-one.
Did you see all this?
Scalabrini could beat any one of your listeners one-on-one now, and he'll tell you he probably can't.
And he could.
The worst, the person who's playing in the NBA, who's on the 12th man, could beat every single one of the people watching this show ever.
I mean, it's an MBA.
Time and close.
It's a professional basketball player.
So the level is just, you know, I have to say.
Who's your favorite guy?
Who's your favorite guy in the NBA?
All time.
I know, you know, I think you did something with Oral Monroe years back, but who's your favorite favorite all time?
Man, it's hard to pick one, but the person who meant the most to me growing up and like resonated with me as a kid the most is Dr. J.
That was my, like, I had such love for him, Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird.
But Doc was like, I wasn't into cartoons.
I wasn't into, you know, Marvel.
I wasn't into Batman and Robin.
I wasn't into Bruce Lee.
Like, Dr. J was that to me.
And to a lot of people, like, he was that to me.
And, you know, throughout the years, I've gotten to meet him and I participated with him in the big three.
And I have, I've been around him so much, my heart still races when I just love him, love him.
And he meant so much to me as a kid.
He was a superhero.
What year?
When you're saying superhero, what year?
When I was like, when he doc resonated with me 79, 80, 81.
So listen, you're a Manhattan guy.
Even though you kind of look a little Larry Bird-esque, I think I've seen you in a Celtics jersey before.
Yes.
What's up with your Knicks, bro?
We're getting better.
I mean, you're not giving a shout out to Ewing.
You don't got Bernard King on your list.
Bernard, you said one guy.
Yeah.
I'm just saying.
Bernard King.
You're a Manhattan guy.
Listen, I'm going to tell you right now.
I don't want to go too down the rabbit hole of sports because I know this is the show.
I watch a show.
I'm going to say right now, based on the trades, I'm going to say this right now, right into my camera.
The Knicks just picked up a bunch of guys, Bogdanovich.
The New York Knicks, February 8th?
Yes.
February 8th, 2024.
I'm on the PBD podcast.
Millions of people watch.
The New York Knicks are winning the NBA championship.
Get out of here.
This year?
When?
You're out of control.
This year.
Hey, what's wrong with that?
By the way, what I'm saying.
Okay, so because of who?
Because of Jalen Brunson.
He's a beast.
The whole team.
We have a team.
The New York Knicks.
Here, I'm not going to say winning.
The Knicks are going to the championship.
I'm not going to say winning.
The Knicks are going to the championship barring a catastrophe.
Michael Rapperport.
The Knicks are going to be.
I want to ask you the one question I ask Vinny every time he makes an outrageous statement.
How much money you want to put on this rap report?
That the Knicks are going to a thousand?
No, no, they're winning a championship.
No, no, no.
I'm always there.
Stop going.
They changed it going.
I'll bet you a clean 100.
Let's make it 1,000.
Let's be professional.
No, no, I think the odds are on your side, though.
Yeah, what are the odds?
And who are you?
I thought it was about 52.
You got to give me 100 bucks.
100 bucks.
Should we change it?
I think that's fair.
That's the bet.
There it is.
Done.
I'm a heat guy, bro.
I know what it's like to go to the championship.
You guys are not going to win.
That's what they said last year.
We made you the championship.
I was at the game last night, and I sat on the wood, and I'm a heat fan.
Heat culture, I respect it.
That was last year.
It's 2024.
The trade deadline just came in before I walked into the studio.
The Knicks are going to the championship.
We have a $100 bet.
That's short and I am Rappaport.
Tell us.
This is odds right now.
It's not like it's.
They haven't even caught up with what happened five minutes ago.
That's what I'm saying.
So it could go even.
That's winning.
The Knicks are going to the championship.
The Knicks are coming out of the East and going to the championship.
By the way, that's a pretty bold statement to make.
Dude, I have a John Stocks jersey still chilling in my show.
So let me ask you, what do you think about the whole conversations about LeBron to Knicks?
Is that like a fairy tale?
It's not going to happen.
He ain't leaving L.A. You think the Lakers should trade him?
No.
They're not trading him.
He ain't going anywhere.
He's LeBron James.
Do I think the Lakers?
No, he's the best player on their team.
Yeah, I don't think he's going anywhere.
He's LeBron James.
No.
I've seen you at the big three before.
You've had some beef before.
I've seen you were coaching a team before.
Yes.
Who have you had beef with any?
I want to say KD and you had some beef.
Yeah.
Listen, I know you didn't want to call yourself a troll.
You talk shit, bro.
I talk shit, but you do.
Talk shit and a troll is two different things.
Okay.
So you would label yourself a shit talker, though.
The best in the world.
Okay.
We established the guidelines here.
One of the 100%.
Would you call it yapping?
What'd you call it?
I call it shapping.
Snapping.
Shit-talking.
Snapping is the enemy.
Snap.
Shit-talking is the general atmosphere.
What happened with some KD?
What happened to some other guys?
All the other stuff you saw on the big three, that's just performance art.
Yeah, okay.
No, no, yeah, okay.
No, no.
It's all just performance art.
But what was real?
What was the real beef?
None of the stuff on the big three was real.
None.
What was real?
I mean, you got to ask me specifically in my life.
With KD.
KD, that was the whole thing that got out of hand.
That was a DM thing.
I mean, you tell it better than me.
I actually, dude, a lot of this, Michael is.
Somebody's done 20 years.
A lot of this was a few years ago.
I remember some shit was trending.
So it was trending.
We're rehatching some stuff.
When you brought up the Jews would not replace this type of thing.
I remember that from seven years ago.
But you know, we got you now, Rapper Port.
The KD thing was what it was.
Got into an ugly social media feud.
Yeah.
And you pulled it.
What does it say?
Treat?
Train of thoughts.
Train of thought.
Rob, Trainer.
Oh.
All right.
What was it?
The worst fights are the ones that there was no one to root for.
That's what we had yesterday with a nasty Twitter scuffle between broke out between Netstar, Kevin Durant, nasty.
Netstar.
Oh, the participants here.
Surprising.
Durant loves to fight with people on various social media platforms.
The rap report is often looking for attention.
Not you, Mike.
With personalities this volatile.
There was no warning before the fight.
The much regarded and respected trainer report.
With an A at the end.
Yes.
Well, Mike, when you posted the conversation, the DMs, what were you saying in the sense of?
Well, you were calling him a snake.
I remember that.
No, he was talking about spitting on me and all this shit.
And talking district, he mentioned my wife, and I was like, no, it's not happening.
Got it.
So that was what?
That was three years ago?
I think it was four.
What was the resolution with that?
You guys squash any beef?
You see him at all?
I haven't seen him.
I haven't seen him.
No, what happens if you saw KD?
By the way, step right to him.
Straight up.
I mean, out of all the basketball players and professional athletes, physically, he's the one that I would probably be least concerned with.
Because you probably weigh more than him.
I'm probably way more than him.
At a lean, mean 210 pounds.
All right.
Oh, Durant?
Yeah, I saw the easy money style.
I was at a club.
I was at a club, Mike, and I saw this.
Like, he's obviously huge.
Yeah, but his ankle.
Yeah.
He has little baby ankles.
But I'm not a tough guy at all.
I don't claim to be.
I'm 53.
I'm going to be 54 in March.
Yeah.
And, you know.
Side your world.
But don't say that, Mike, because people are going to say, oh, that his bark is louder than his bite.
My bark is louder than my bite.
All right.
Fuck you think this is, man.
So I talk shit and I don't.
I'm not a boxer.
I'm not a UFC fighter.
I'm not Sean Strickland or one of these guys.
All right.
By the way, now that guy, he is not a guy you want to get into a street.
He's great.
He's had a crazy childhood.
Yeah.
That shit comes out in his fist.
The best thing is when he told his opponent, he says, look, you can say whatever you want.
If you talk about my dad one more time in Canada, I will kill you.
I will go to jail and I'll be okay with it.
Period.
Period.
And then the guy's like, you know what?
Let's just fight.
That's like that Keen Pia film thing you showed the other day.
Yeah, that's funny.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's funny.
What did that?
Michael, let's talk about politics.
Okay, so 2017, 2017.
Yes.
You're making that video, right?
Politically.
How much have you changed in the last seven years?
I think I've learned a lot more.
So I don't think I've changed.
I think I've learned more about, not I think, I know I have.
You know, honestly, I didn't care, speak, or pay much attention to politics up until the Republican convention, the Republican debates, and then the debate with Hillary and Trump.
To be totally honest with you.
So since that time, I've learned a lot.
And, you know, I have a clear point of view on the game.
I have a clear point of view on politicians.
I have a clear point of view on where I stand.
You know, as you get older, you know, your money becomes more important to you.
Your taxes become more important to you.
And I think for me, learning and going through and understanding first initially politics through social media and then politics in real life and educating myself, my point of view on things have changed.
You know, I'll just jump right to it because I know you want to get to it.
You know, my point of view on Trump, you know, and I want to ask you this because I know you're sort of, you consider yourself right now a Trump guy?
I'm a center-right guy.
But right now.
Oh, there's no question about it.
So the thing is, for me, like you handle yourself in such a classy way, and people are like, you know, Pat, you should run for president.
Pat, you'd be a great president.
And, you know, you've accomplished and you're so successful.
And, you know, the way everybody, you know, in your office, you know, sort of presents himself and it's a classy place.
And it's, you know, from the head down, I would imagine.
The thing about Trump that's the hardest, amongst other things, the hardest for me and a lot of people to get past along with the list, but the top is the way he conducts himself as a president.
And some people say, well, Mike Rap, you talk shit.
I'm not the president of the United States.
Totally.
And the insulting people, I don't know a thing about McCain.
I don't know anything about his politics, but I know he served this country and he went through what he went through.
For somebody like Trump, who is a draft dodger, somebody like Trump to insult him and give him a nickname and say he prefers his war heroes not to be captured, to me is the antithesis.
And that's a big word.
I'm using it just because I'm here with you, Pat.
It's a big word for me.
That's the antithesis of anything presidential.
And I'm a shit talker and all that stuff.
But the nicknames and the disrespect for the fact that you're the president, time and time and time and time and time after, again, to me is the thing that's hardest for me to get by because it's representative of everything in this country.
He's the representative of us in the country.
I know also his bark is bigger than his bite, but being the president, that's an extremely loud bark.
His bark is bigger than his bite.
I think he says a lot more than he does.
I think his policies weren't a lot of his policies that he did while he was in office, I like.
I think he did do things that were good for the country, but the spillage, the messiness, the antagonistic behavior, the antagonistic behavior towards anybody, anybody,
whether they worked with him or not, but the people that worked with him, once he feels betrayed, once he feels insulted, to just attack, attack, attack, insult in the most disrespectful, embarrassing way is just to me is not acceptable as a president to me.
And so then that means you're a Biden guy.
No, that doesn't mean anything.
So then would you still vote for him?
Would you still vote for Trump?
No.
Well, I didn't vote for Trump.
You mean when I still vote for Biden?
In 2024, would you vote for Trump this year?
Would you consider it?
Yeah.
Well, I said the other day that voting for Donald Trump is on the table.
I didn't mean that.
And by the way, 50 Cent said that with the whole 53 million auto credit card, New York, Mayor Adams, what they're doing to all the immigrants.
But let me let me know.
Maybe he's on the table.
Big Mike.
Everybody's saying it.
Everybody's changing it.
You think Killer Mike or Mike?
Killer Mike.
So let me kind of give you a point.
So I want to hear your story.
Yeah, perfect.
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about specifically with that.
So for me.
I said voting for pig dick Donald Trump.
Yeah, I know you did.
I know you did.
And I love that when they put it up there, they refer to him in the nickname I gave it.
Tell me about the, is this after watching a Jimmy kill deal or is that just your nickname?
I created that nickname.
I patented.
Okay.
And maybe you could help me check the patent.
Pig Dick Donald Trump, Dick Stane, Donald Trump.
I have the patent on that.
So if you use it, unfortunately, I will have to sue you.
I understand.
I respect that.
What was the inspiration for the pig dick?
You know, sometimes stroke of genius.
Yeah.
A stroke.
Nice one.
A stroke of genius just comes out.
What do you do?
Stroke comes out.
It's just a lot of double entendre.
So there's nothing specific to it.
You're just kind of, it's a name you gave with no meaning behind it.
Do you think, like, like you say, like, Dr. J, Air Jordan?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The mamba.
Yeah.
Pig dick Donald Trump.
It just fits.
Patrick, it fits.
Here's what's funny about it.
I know it fits.
Even your face because I know you have a good sense of humor.
You can't even make out listening to you.
I know it fits.
Are you kidding me?
I'm all about sense of humor.
I love being entertained and I love the funny stories.
But it's funny, you're saying that, but you're saying you're still open to the idea.
So let me give you my rebuttal on those things.
Please do.
So for me, having been, I'm 45 years old, okay?
Having been in business for, you know, 20-some years and working with different personalities.
What I valued when I was first recruiting in 24-25 is very different when I was 30 after I wasted my time with a lot of people.
Then what I valued at 35, 40, and then today, right?
Today is a completely different story.
Then, here's the other part that I learned.
I learned recruiting a salesperson.
Yesterday, one of the client CEOs I'm consulting for asked me a question on what kind of salespeople should I recruit.
I said, look, it depends on what product you're selling.
Meaning, if you're selling a $100 product, you can't bring a guy that's suited up because you're going to intimidate the customer that's buying a $100 product.
It's not a big product.
But if you're selling a product that's a million-dollar product, it's a different language versus if you're selling a $20 million house in Miami or Coral Gables or Palm Beach, it's a different salesperson.
So the same salesperson can fail selling this product but succeed selling this product.
Ideally, in a perfect world, you would say, I want somebody who is this.
I want somebody who is eloquent.
I want somebody who talks like this and all these things.
Many times you would get a new guy that comes in with a phenomenal resume, looks good, everything looks good.
Then put him in the ring, have him get to work.
Guess what?
Nothing gets done, right?
Back in the days, there was a book I read called Lincoln on Leadership by Donald T. Phillips, Rob, if you want to pull it up.
I think Law 13 in this book, he talks about just type in search until you find your grant.
Okay.
Search until you find your grant.
I don't think I've told this story on the pod.
Search until you find your grant.
In this book, right there, the last chapter, I think it's chapter 13.
He says, search until you find your grant.
Which one is it, Rob?
11 or 13?
Is it a go up one?
Go up one?
Keep searching.
Keep searching until you find your grant.
Okay.
So he tells the story.
The war is going on, north and south.
All these things are going on.
He hires this guy who's the most trained person in the military.
He promotes him to go and win the war.
His name is McClellan.
Okay.
He brings him in and he says, This is our guy.
You know what McClellan does all day long with his soldiers?
Keeps training them, training them, training them.
Every day, report to Lincoln, report to Lincoln, report to Lincoln.
He brings, after 10 layers of generals he changed, nobody had the balls to go to war except for one guy.
He finally finds this guy named Ulysses S. Grant.
He comes in and he says, hey, we got to go win the war.
He says, say no more.
This guy's a drunk.
He's an alcoholic.
He's a mess.
He drinks late at night at bars.
An absolute crazy man.
He can never get a hold of him.
Lincoln was always pissed off because Grant would never call him.
But guess what ended up happening?
He won the war.
Do you really give a shit if the guy that won the war is an alcoholic?
No, you don't.
So that's the argument in there.
Now, somebody could say, in today's world, you know who Ulysses S. Grant would have been?
Oh my God.
Look at this irresponsible this, this, that.
No, no, you won the war.
You're safe.
Be quiet.
Go home and send him a thank you letter instead of all this trashing that you're doing with him.
And FYI, he becomes a two-term president afterwards, after Trump.
So let's go through some of your lists.
Draft Dodger.
At this point, that was a big point in the 80s to say that.
No one gives a shit today.
Everybody running today is a draft Dodger.
Okay.
So that quality on talking shit to the other side, it's irrelevant today.
It's a good one for 80s, not for 2020.
But you served, right?
I served.
McCain served.
I'm a guy that I want the guy's servant, but it's a different era today.
But I'm just saying, in terms of You as somebody who served, just specifically that.
I knew that had to be like, you're like, what is it?
For sure.
It's by the way, for sure, with the fact that not even serving is a bigger issue for me.
Not the draft dodging stuff.
The draft dodging stuff, you got a rich dad.
What are you going to do for your kid?
Maybe it's going to be a different situation.
You're not going to know it if your dad's got money.
And maybe you're going to be like, what am I doing going over here?
And the dad gets you to get out.
Those are some of the benefits that come with the last name.
I get it.
Whether you, your son or your kids are going to have a different way they use the last name than you did, right?
Because you built the last name.
100%.
Right?
So Trump didn't build the last name.
Fred built the last name.
There was a lot of benefits to the last name.
And then obviously Trump takes it to the next level.
And then the McCain thing.
McCain, let's go to the McCain.
So, McCain, I don't like that comment.
I just tell you straight up.
I don't like that comment.
Why even say that?
You don't have to say that.
Why would you say that?
He served, put his life on the line, prisoner of war.
He went whether there's credibility behind it or he marketed it or whatever.
It's not something that I sit there and say, yeah, I'm totally with him.
I'm not that guy.
I actually wasn't for that.
And I openly talked about, you don't have to say that.
So you listen to New York.
For the longest time in the U.S., they used to talk about the fact that America can't handle a New York president because you're New York.
Look how loud you are.
He's New York.
You know what feedback Tom gave to him two days ago?
We don't always have to be loud.
Tom's not from New York.
He made a note today, Mike.
He's like, be calm.
You're telling me, what the fuck do you mean?
Tom is from.
Tom is a very different light.
But guess what?
New York is loud, tough, competitive, calling out.
So America got a New York president because that's who they wanted.
And then what's the last one that you said?
Bigger than bike.
Here's what I will tell you.
When I say what?
His bike.
His bark is bigger than his bike.
So the thing with Trump, too, when I was with Bill Maher and I'm asking this question, and this whole idea, oh my God, this guy's going to get elected.
Let me tell you what he's going to be doing if he gets elected.
Excellent, World War III.
Do you want that man to have access to the nuclear button and all this other stuff?
Bro, you're talking just with Bill Maher.
Yeah, I was with Bill Maher last week, and we're having this conversation.
And I said in 2016, all the left ever said is the fact that this guy is going to start a nuclear war.
That's what he's going to do.
Guess what happened?
He goes, there is no war.
ISIS disappears.
The last time you said ISIS was under Obama.
We haven't said ISIS for a while.
So the economy is doing great.
Everything's great.
Then we have COVID two and a half years later.
Then they blame it all on him.
He creates Operation Warp Speed.
Kamala Harris and those guys said they would never take the vaccine while Trump was coming out with it.
But guess what those pharmaceutical companies did?
You know, when the vaccine comes out?
Two days after the election.
So if it would have come out before, Trump probably would have had a chance of winning, but it comes out two days after.
Why?
You don't think somebody behind closed doors said, come out two days after the election?
100%.
100% they did.
So the gamesmanship of how much they hated this guy because he's a shit talker.
He talks so much shit.
It's constant.
But that's him.
That's his profile.
You are not going to change him.
You're 53.
You said you're going to be 54 in March, right?
So March 20th, you're going to be 54.
Okay.
So how much do you think somebody can change you today at this phase of your life with your personality?
Shifts.
Okay.
You could bend a little bit.
It's subtle, bro.
And that's not going to be that dramatic, right?
It's going to be subtle.
If somebody was going to do anything to us, maybe at 11, maybe 15, maybe 18, no one's going to change Trump.
So all of those things of people that used to ask and said, if only he could be like this.
Let me just simplify it for you.
He's not going to.
Absolutely not.
Period.
But if you like no war, if you like a great economy, if you like unemployment that was low for African Americans, they're making more money than ever before.
If you want data and all that stuff was good, then great.
Go this side.
If you want a messy world that we have right now, Russia, Ukraine, where we're giving another six, they're calling it a border bill out of $118 billion, $60 billion to Ukraine.
Don't call it a border bill.
He would have actually addressed those things.
That's simple it is for me.
By the way, never spoken to him.
I've never met him.
I've never broke bread.
I don't have, I've seen him speak, but we've never had interaction for there to be a loyalty.
There is no relationship loyalty.
It's policy loyalty.
One thing that I really disdain in the mainstream media or even media in general, even with you guys or when people are talking politics, is if the other side or a president you don't like does something good, it's never acknowledged.
So I'm going to ask you this because you could probably answer this better than me.
What has the Biden administration done that you do like?
First of all, the economy is doing good.
It's okay.
Who is it good for, though?
It's good for the rich guy.
The people that are making money, they're doing good.
That's you.
Yeah, I mean, I'm okay.
I'm not, again, like I said to Bill Maher, guys like me are going to be good no matter who's the president.
By the way, the more they print money, I'm always going to make more money because money always rolls up to the wealthy because the poor and middle income don't know how to keep it.
They know how to spend it.
The more they spend it, who do they spend it on?
On capitalists that own equity.
And the equity people make money.
If I would say, you know, the fact that the expectation of a massive recession to be taking place, well, that didn't happen because that could have been in shambles, right?
Unemployment stayed okay.
I think Powell, the way he managed the interest rates, wow, the way we were going about the economy was okay.
The interest rates are, they're not good right now.
It should stay low.
And by the way, I said this last week.
They suck now because I just bought a house and a car in the last, and if the interest rates are like, where did you buy yourself?
I don't want to say.
You're not going to like this.
But not in this state and not in Texas.
So I didn't get the, you know, you're in New York or California.
Something like that.
I will say this to you on the interest rates.
Even when Trump gets elected, my concern is he fires Powell and he brings somebody to lower the rates.
If he lower the rates immediately, we're going back to fake success again.
And we need to filter out a little bit of the fake success.
There's way too many people that made fake money that need to just quit.
So here's kind of what happens.
Guy goes and starts a business.
He should have never started a business.
He's a better guy working for a business owner because he doesn't have good habits.
Because of his bad habits, he hurts the employees.
He should get out of business and go work for the other guy that is a good operator.
During fake success time, these people look like great operators.
But during the economy like this, they get exposed and then they go and say, hey, man, can I work with you?
No problem.
Come on down.
Because we need more solid operators, not fake success operators.
We had a lot of those fake success operators during that 128-month economic expansion of pretty much zero interest rates.
So I'm not going to make a prediction.
Go ahead.
Praise for impact.
You're going to vote for Trump.
And I'll tell you why.
Because you're an I don't know if I could do that.
I'll tell you what.
Hang on.
And by the way, you're talking to somebody that was probably closer to your camp in 2016.
Oh, he was in 2015.
I hated Trump.
I never said hate.
I didn't like Trump.
But also, I've never said the word hate.
You can roll the tape.
I didn't like a lot of things you did, a lot of things you highlighted.
For me, there was the one that I was like, I can't do this was when he pretended like he didn't know who David Duke was.
Everyone knows David Duke, leader of the KKKs out there in Louisiana.
Okay, come on.
You don't know who this guy is.
But you're also a reasonable person, and you're also a dude.
Like, you're a dude, you like to play ball, you like hip-hop, you like to talk shit.
You're not a woke LGBT unicorn type guy, that's not you.
No, so you've seen what the left has produced over the last four years.
Again, I'm telling you, somebody that's been in that camp, I'm a JFK Democrat.
Why am I a JFK Democrat?
Because my dad was a JFK Democrat.
So that basically led to me being like, oh, JFK's the man.
He's a Democrat.
That led to me liking Clinton.
I like Clinton.
All right, cool.
You know, he's out there kissing babies, you know, getting blowjobs.
I don't like that guy.
I make charming guy.
Charming.
We met him recently.
Ston of a guy.
His wife, yeah, that's a whole other conversation.
But, you know, if you were looking at politics and you said you weren't paying attention to it, I, in my senior year, I worked at the in Tallahassee in Florida State where I went to school.
I was worked at the Capitol building.
This was during the 2000 election, Gore versus Bush.
I was a Clinton guy.
I was rooting for Gore.
What happened?
I used to see Jeb Bush and George W.
I used to see, I was around this.
Oh, shit.
We saw what happened during the Bush administration, the bookends of it, 9-11, and then the great financial meltdown.
There was no way in a million years that old John McCain was going to win the election over cool Barack Obama.
Wasn't happening.
So if you believe in the Obama doctrine, all right, you know, be nice to each other, whatever, there's no way you were voting for Trump.
It just wasn't in the cards.
It wasn't happening.
It was abrasive.
He was racist.
The media, yada, yada, yada.
And he was a joke.
New Yorkers, like, he was like, he's a ball busting troll.
He's a shooter.
But here's why I think you're going to vote for him this time.
Because you've seen what happened under his first term.
You didn't like it.
He's the, you know, he's the pig dick and he's got the mean tweets and he's orange.
But life was good.
There was no wars.
The economy was going good.
But damn, he's annoying to look at.
But you also can acknowledge that the media had a major role in that.
A major role in that.
When you take a step back, you also acknowledge that.
Because I've also acknowledged that one thing about the Charlottesville that I ranted about.
Yes.
And I was wrong.
About the both sides thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that was so irresponsible.
And I respect the shit out of this.
Wait, let me hear him out.
Hang on.
Go a little bit more.
What do you mean by that?
You were wrong on that.
No, because he said the both sides, you know, there's good people on both sides.
And when you see the full quote, that wasn't what he said.
And, you know, I ranted on him hard for that.
Hard.
There's some video about it, whatever.
I mean, I ranted hard because I was like, what are you talking about, man?
Because you got played.
And here's what the reason is, this is why I think you're going to vote for Trump.
It's because you, much like me, much like many people, independent thinkers, not the sheep, realize we kind of got played a little bit.
Yes, Trump ain't exactly the smoothest character.
He's not Jesus Christ.
No.
But he actually, his policies and who he has around him are way better than what's going on there.
And here's my final point.
You see what's going on with the border.
You see what's going on with the wokeness.
You see what's going on with culture wars.
And you see what's going on with actual wars.
Yeah.
Specifically, you see who the Democrats have exposed their hand, especially the progressive left.
You see what's going on between Israel and Gaza.
You have three star of David Chai's on your chest right now.
And someone who is a proud New Yorker your whole life, you see what the Democratic Party has turned into.
This DEIESG woke manifestation of ridiculousness, intersectionality, decolonialization.
You're looking at that and you say, you know what?
As much as I can't stand pig dick Donald Trump, you said it.
At least he's fucking normal.
At least he doesn't want to turn my boy into a girl.
Well, at least he's normal.
Yes.
At least he doesn't want to turn my boy into a girl.
At least he's defending Israel, not the fucking terrorists.
And at the end of the day, I'm a reasonable person.
So like you said initially, I think I'm going to consider this.
Oh, I'm considering it.
Yes.
But to pull that, I don't know.
We don't pull levers anymore.
Actually, pull that lever.
Oh, you're pulling the lever for Biden.
And then I'm going to tell you right now, I won't vote.
I'm not voting for Biden.
I'm not voting for Kamala.
I'm not, you know.
But then you can't talk shit.
And you need to be able to talk shit.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
So you're saying so for you?
I won't vote for them.
So no matter what that decision is.
That ain't happening.
No, I'm not.
That's not happening.
Kamala and Biden.
Kamala.
I'm not voting for him.
For anybody.
Well, but Mikey, what about anybody else?
What about Michael?
What about anybody for him?
What he's saying is.
Who?
There's nobody.
I'm saying Kennedy.
What if Newsom or one of these cats pop up?
Gavin?
I just left California.
I'm not voting for Gavin with the good hair.
I love that.
I love that.
Gavin with the good hair, just like Beck.
So here's my thing, though.
I'm not a sucker.
You see how much they love him, though.
They love his ass.
They like his hair.
But go deeper.
Why do you say you're not a sucker?
What does that mean?
Because I lived, I just moved out of Los Angeles.
Okay.
It's not happening, man.
Explain that.
For those of the people that have never lived in LA, why the hell you've been there for 20 plus years?
Why the hell did you move out?
Well, I moved out because I wanted to go to New York.
I didn't move out for any reason.
I wanted to move back to New York full-time.
That's why I left.
But just on top, the homelessness in New York, sorry, in Los Angeles and in California, San Diego, San Francisco.
I could speak on those places.
Sacramento is so, but particularly in Los Angeles, in the Los Angeles area is unacceptable.
It's scary.
I don't know how to fix it.
It's unacceptable.
It's not safe.
It's not sanitary.
I know California and Los Angeles is a driving city, but I do like to walk.
When you walk, you shouldn't feel just uncomfortable by hordes and hordes and hordes of homeless people.
It's not good for them.
It ain't good for me.
It ain't good for, it's not good across the board.
And the taxes suck, but the homelessness and how it went, you know, down so bad, so quickly, and the crime.
All that.
Let's not forget about the crime.
Let's not forget about the crime.
So, Mike, you said, because I saw the video, too, Pat played it the other day about, you said, you know, still voting for him.
It's still on the table.
We saw Adam mention, what was the break?
What was that moment, Mike?
Was it the way that the administration treated the Palestine, Gaza, the terrorist hostages?
Because, Mike, real talk, let's be honest.
If Trump was, first of all, none of that shit was happening at all when Trump was in.
Everybody just, you know, this motherfucker was shaking people's arms and ripping them off the socket.
I think two things.
A, it wouldn't have happened if it was under him.
And number two, Mike, let's be real about that.
Well, nobody did it in those four years.
Here's my thing, though.
If it did happen under Trump and there was hostages, Jewish, you don't think that guy would have gone in the next day, special forces, and just shot and killed every Trump will not play this shit.
Was it this thing, Mike, that made you?
Israel pushed me over the top.
What was it, Mike?
Like, please, please get it.
The good cop, bad cop shit between Kamala and Joe Biden.
Joe, at first, you know what he said?
You know, it was good at first, what he said.
But, you know, I don't remember exactly what he said, but it was good.
Neither does he.
And Israeli, it resonated with Israelis.
But the good cop, bad cop between him and Kamala regarding this was not cool.
And it's offensive, you know, that they are doing that, speaking that way when such a horrible, unacceptable situation took place in Israel.
And that's when I first said that.
I don't know what the date was.
I believe it was sometime in October when I first said that.
And since then, I was like, I'm just, I can't do it.
I can't do it.
I cannot vote for them.
I, you know, the border stuff.
It shouldn't be harder for me to fly back into the United States from Toronto two, three hours.
And I'm famous.
I played a DA agent on a show called Prison Break.
DA agent, Border Age, they know me.
It shouldn't take me, big star that I am, PBD, to get from Toronto flying to New York.
It shouldn't take me three hours to fly back on that trip and take you five minutes across the border.
It shouldn't be harder for me to get back into my country from Toronto than it is to cross the border.
And it is.
And it ain't cool.
And then, you know, the thing that pushed me over the top this week, listen, I live in New York.
You know, I want to be clear on.
That's a crazy point.
Mike, that's what that, yeah, that's something you guys.
That was a good question.
Clip that and put that on the air.
Boom.
I am rapperport.
But Pat, you know, I'm going to just say this.
You know, the media also does this.
It portrays New York as this.
Fucking, there's not as much homeless that I see.
And I'm not Mr. Patrol.
I'm not in the five boroughs scouring.
There's not as much homeless, specifically in Manhattan.
You know, I don't know the crime statistics.
You know, it's still New York.
It's still the greatest city on the planet, in my opinion.
It's still everything.
You know, that being said, when I saw the cops in Times Square, one of the epicenters of New York, one of the epicenters of all things American in the world.
You think of the United States, that's one of the places.
They dropped the ball, Dick Clark, the late Drake, late, great Dick Clark.
You dropped the ball in Times Square.
When NYPD blew, when NYPD's finest to get jumped by migrants.
Illegal migrants.
Illegal migrants in my city.
I'm not the owner, but I'm born and raised in Manhattan.
When NYPD can get jumped by illegal migrants in New York City and then walk out with no bail, raising their middle fingers like Tupac did when he came out of the court.
Unbelievable.
Fuck you, fuck that, fuck this.
In New York City, and I know that's a city thing that I know has nothing to do with the president, but that is weird.
That's when I go, is New York still the greatest city in the world if you can do that?
Because that is a slap in the face to everything that is great, special about New York.
And that is a slap in the face that is everything that's great, special about the United States of America.
Yep.
And that's when I said the other day, this is just, I can't.
And homie's wearing a freaking Kobe jersey, a 24-legged shot.
And that's New York.
And that's when I'm like, this is where I know the best.
I know New York City more better than anything, any other place that I've, I've spent a lot of time in California.
That is my city.
That's just the most blatant, disrespectful shit that you could do, that you can do this in New York City.
You could beat.
Let me tell you something.
To think that you could put your hands on a cop in any city, let alone in a city that you ain't from, in a country that you ain't from.
When I haven't traveled the world a lot, but when I'm in Israel, Argentina, the places that I've been to, I find out the rules and regulations.
And I'm a disruptive person.
If you can't spit, you don't spit.
When you're in Thailand, you can't say certain things.
It'll get in trouble.
Let alone put your hands on a cop.
The audacity to jump on a fucking New York City cop and walk out with no bail.
That shit's embarrassing.
We talked about this.
You slipped that too.
Yeah, these are the same.
Imagine traveling to a different country and beating up a cop anywhere else.
No, but what do you say?
I mean, that's even in your own country.
Brittany Griner did a year and a half in jail for bringing some weed to Russia.
It wasn't even, it wasn't a it was an evape thing.
But Mike, you could do this and you walk out with no bail, flipping double birdie, besides the flipping off, right?
Hold on, getting stomped out, stomped out.
This will pass me off.
All the New Yorkers didn't do shit.
Number two, number three.
This is the same NYPD that were heroes that were running into the world trade.
I did this, Mike, last week.
Running into the world trade, saving people, and nobody's helping these dudes.
And then you know what that means?
The system.
They went into court and they're like, bye, get out.
And then you go back in the street.
That really hurt my heart.
I'm born in New York hospital.
That hurt my fucking heart.
So here's a question for you.
Sorry to curse.
No, it's all good.
So do you speak to it?
I know you keep it clean over here.
I try to, but every once in a while, Vinny and Adam, they sponsor the Indy.
So going back to it, so do you speak?
I'm not looking for names.
Are there other people who would have never thought about voting for Trump?
Celebrities who are either in sports or business or whatever Hollywood, do they call and say, Michael, what the hell is going on in New York?
Pat, I can't speak on other celebrities.
No, I'm not saying names, but I can't even say other names.
I can't even say other names.
But I could say this: there's a lot of people in the Jewish community that I've spoken to a lot that are like, I never, ever, ever thought, you know, some celebrities.
Yeah, some celebrities.
Yeah, some celebrities that I never thought I'd be at that point, also, ever.
And they're like, they were hard body like me, like F. Trump, you know, and all that stuff.
Like, never Trumpers, that's what you call them.
Yeah.
A lot of people, I would say, in my world, and I could say, you know, two celebrities that pop in my mind that said, I never would have thought I would have even considered.
And here I am.
Yeah, that's exactly what's happening.
That's the reason that I said I think you're going to vote for Trump.
And it's not even necessarily you.
It could be any extension of you.
Any reasonable person, especially Jewish, is going to look back and be like, the Jews are not voting.
They're not doing it.
How about the congressional testimony where the University of Presidents couldn't not control Harvard?
Wait, Harvard?
Harvard.
And all the clubs and gay going, there was literally protesting, like supporting Hamas.
And I think that exposed the Jewish community.
It was like, what the hell is more than I thought of it?
Substitute any group.
Any group.
Other than Jews, we want to genocide all Mexicans, all gays.
Forget it.
All blacks, all Asians.
They would have been condemnation to the highest degree.
But Jews, somehow, it's acceptable.
Why is it acceptable, Mike?
You know why?
Because we are the last acceptable group to publicly hate.
You can't do it against LGBTQ.
You get canceled by a black community, Asian community, disabled community.
You can't say the R word.
You little person, you can't say the M word.
There's a lot of things that if you say them, if I said it right now, yo, you're done.
But you can openly hate Jews.
We are the last acceptable group, community, religion, or race where it's not only acceptable, it's sort of consequences.
You're emboldened to do it right now, particularly right now.
That being said, I will say anti-Semitism, anti-Jewishness has been around forever.
It's going to continue to go around, but it is extremely disheartening and concerning and infuriating.
What's happening to the real people, the victims, is one thing, but the Claudine Gaze, the MIT woman who somehow still has a job, the Harvard woman, the people thinking that they could say, get off my campus, Zionist, who can tell my friend in a cafe in New Orleans, I'm not going to serve you because you're Zionist.
All the shit that we've seen, whether it's Zionist, anti-Jewish, all that stuff, that is a surprise.
And it's fucked up.
Rob, what's this here?
Michael Rapper Raising and Jewish, Talib, Omar, AOC, you're in government.
So this is a, which story is this, Rob?
This is our.
Over regarding their support for Palestine.
In our government, literally.
And this is a furthermore proof of why I don't think you can vote for the Democratic Party.
I'm not doing it.
I'm telling you, I'm not doing it.
I ain't doing it.
I'm not with them.
I've been off of them.
The AOC.
So I got a question for you guys.
I got a question specifically for the two of you.
You and Michael.
I know everybody's like, Rapperport's been red-pilled.
And I do.
I take two red pills in the morning, two red pills in the night.
It's working.
For what?
In the first row, the red pills.
They have been red-pilled.
So let me ask you, you know how in 1960, the whole Barry Goldwater where it used to be only 64% of African Americans would vote Democrat.
By 1964, that 64% goes to 92% of blacks vote for Democrat because Democrats were brilliant in the way to pin Republicans as racist against blacks.
And it lasted like that for decades till today, 60 years.
It's lasted like that till today.
Do you think this is going to be the October 7th event is going to be the type of an event where right there, exactly, 1964, 92% voted for Democrat.
Look what it's been.
It's been anywhere between 84 to 92% voting for Democrats.
They've owned.
The Democrats have owned the black vote for decades.
They've owned it for decades, right?
Question for you.
Do you think the October 7th event and the way they've handled it, will it be in a way where there may be a massive exodus from Jews leaving the Democratic Party or no?
You think it's still going to be the same?
I do.
I think that 10 plus percentage.
I think way more than that.
Oh, really?
Because I'll tell you why.
I've had plenty of conversations with guys like Michael Radport.
Jewish guys, reasonable dudes, make their money, do their thing, good people, good family guys.
And I say, what's up?
You voting.
And I know these guys, good friends.
You're Jewish?
Yeah.
And I said, could you vote?
You're going to vote for Biden?
You're going to vote for Trump now?
What are they going to do?
How many times I've had this conversation?
They're like, yeah, I don't think I can do this thing.
Here's the biggest thing.
We knew on the far right, we knew the Jews will not replace us, Tiki tortured, Kakis wearing pig dick loving those guys.
We knew about those guys.
And the Jews are just like, yeah, anything with the KKK, with the neo-Nazis, we ain't with that.
Well, we had no clue what was permeating on the left.
And it's the difference between the left and the right is that it's in government on the left.
The squad is in government.
The squad is in government.
When the Democratic Party, when they have votes to basically censure Rashida Tlaib for basically supporting Palestine, zero Republicans are with that.
They're all like, yeah, we're out on this lady.
Majority of the Democratic Party, they're like, yeah, we're with her.
We're cool.
So from an infrastructure, from a systemic problem in government, in Congress, you just, as a Jew, you can't look at this and say, yeah, I'm with this.
Because if you are, that means you're just turning a blind eye to everything that's happening.
And you have to.
Just like the blacks basically were like, yo, we can't get with the Barry Goldwater thing.
Civil rights, everything that changed in the early 1960s, changed the black vote.
This is going to change the Jewish people.
So, you're saying it's going to be that big.
I do.
But listen, you know, 13% of this country is black.
1% of this country is Jewish.
It's not a big, it's not a big number.
That's the difference.
But they have a big voice.
They have a massive voice.
So a flip, it's kind of like saying, I got a thousand people here in a room who are not on social media, but I got a thousand people here about to hear me speak.
And then a guy on the other side says, Yeah, I got a YouTube channel with 28 million subscribers.
I'm willing to have you on the podcast.
You got a thousand physical people.
That guy's one person with the kind of influence to, you know, so for me, if this does happen, if it's a 10-plus percent shift, that's not a 10% plus shift because the influence they have, that's going to be astronomical shit.
Yeah, but when we see the when we see the Genocide Joe campaign on the left from the Hamas brigade, when we see this, and they're just like, we can't support Joe Biden, anyone, anyone with normal sensibilities is going to be like, okay, cool.
Just help elect Donald Trump that moved the Capitol to Jerusalem, okay, that will basically squash Hamas.
So go ahead, keep campaigning for Genocide Joe.
The Democratic Party is your only chance left, Hamas crew, to basically have a voice.
Do you agree with him on this?
Trump can stop it all.
It's going to be a double-digit shift on the Jewish vote.
I agree with him.
Yes.
I agree with him.
I mean, listen, it's November when this is happening right now or February.
A lot of different things can happen.
But if it was today, next month, I would say 100%.
But we've also been fooled by the Trump.
Trump is a Hitler.
He's loves Nazis.
It's like, I don't know.
His daughter married an Orthodox Jewish guy called Jared Kushner.
His grandchildren are Jewish.
This guy grew up in New York City in Staten Island.
I believe it's Queens is where he's from.
He's been around Jews his whole life.
The fact that people think that Donald Trump is Hitler, they would say that, and I hate to be that guy, but I kind of don't.
We told everybody so.
I didn't fall into the personality shit because I looked past all that.
And I'm not special.
I didn't go to college.
How did I know?
Yep, thanks, Mike.
But think about this.
Think about it.
The black vote, Killer Mike, all these people, everybody's shifting, right?
Ice Cube, everybody's going Trump.
The Jewish vote, as you guys are saying, as Jewish guys, it's a wrap, right?
How are they going to?
They know that they're losing.
You know how they're going to keep on to it?
The 22 million, Michael, that are coming in here illegally, those people are going to vote.
That's their only.
They can't vote.
Yes, they can't.
How many states, Rob, how many states can vote with no ID, no picture on the idea?
What do you mean?
You have to be registered.
But I thought that was part of the deal.
How the hell do they register?
No, they come.
What do you mean, how do they register?
And in what state are they going to register?
And we all know that California is going blue.
We already know that.
Adam.
They're going to flip Texas.
Rob, you have that video that I sent you about the voters?
Was close last time.
I sent Rob a slack today, Rob.
I sent Rob a slack about there's a guy in Texas, Michael, going up to all these migrants and interviewing them, asking them who they're going to vote for.
Where is it?
Is this it?
No, that's not it.
That's an illegal that killed somebody.
And the hits just keep on coming.
Go up.
Is that it?
That's it right here.
He's just going up to migrants.
This is the votes.
Ready?
They're illegals.
So he's helping us here.
Of course.
Of course you are.
Of course.
He's a very good person.
Yeah, Trump's a different thing.
It's votes.
I don't know what kind of policy, but any motherfucker that just crossed the border, barely speaks English, has no clue what the hell's going on in America, that means should not be able to vote.
Well, Adam, but guess what?
The plan's working, though.
Well, hold on.
What'd you guys think?
Oh, yeah, here.
Voter identification laws in effect.
A strict photo ID is the dark blue.
Look at that.
And then no document required to vote is gray, Adam.
Look at that.
And then ID required, no photo.
Guess what?
This is shady ass business.
And this is exactly the reason the border is wide open.
And if you still are out there thinking it's a humanitarian and there's kids in cages, you're stupid because that is the answer right there.
Because they know they're losing the black vote.
They lost the Jewish vote.
They're losing everybody.
I never understood the no ID thing.
Dude, I need to go ID to go into a bar.
I need to go ID to buy some liquor.
I need to go buy an ID to buy some cigarettes.
I need an ID to go anywhere.
You need an ID to get on a plane.
I need to get here to for anything in order to vote.
Is that crazy?
No ID needed.
Explain that to me.
Because IDs are racist.
It is strategic, though.
And FYI, numbers-wise, you need how many electoral Chrissy's working on it.
Do you know on the states how many states require no ID?
I think it's like 13 or 14.
Of the 22 states that doesn't require an ID, I think 227 of the electoral are of those states.
Isn't that weird?
Did you get the numbers?
It's the majority.
That's right.
The 227 are from states that don't require documentation.
So we're screwed.
Well, let me tell you something.
Republicans should be thinking they're lucky stars or something called the Electoral College.
Because if it was a popular vote, you guys would get smoked every single time.
Forget it.
Very thankful for the electoral college.
No, thank God.
But I am happy that, because Mike, I'm not going to front, bro.
Like, I don't know what video your wife's mom or whatever said.
And I was just like, any all of that negative Trump, because I had to step back and realize that people were sold on it so much because everything told you, CNN, MSN, the news, he's evil.
He's this.
He would do this.
It's actually refreshing to see somebody go, holy shit, the grass was cut, and now I can see the snakes because they're right in front of your face.
And once it hits you, how many rap reports are out there?
I think a lot.
I think it's growing.
No, no, meaning not you, Mike.
He's saying that are waking up to this.
Oh, I think it's a growing.
What I mean is to me, these guys are very similar because I remember first time I talked to him.
First time I talked to Adam, he's like, hey, you know, what if I come join the team by Tammany?
And, you know, I'm at a face of my life.
And he's in Florida at the time.
And I'm in Dallas, Addison.
So I came here because we were shooting a video, an ad video for one of our events, which we never ended up using the footage because it was using it on a helicopter and it was at the same time.
So I'm like, I'm not going to use the footage.
And then I talked to him.
I said, so tell me politically, where are you at?
So, yo, I'm like, you know, independent.
And I said, so how do you feel about Trump?
He's like, well, you know, well, kind of this.
And we just kind of, it was almost as if, like, you know, and I'm like, okay, cool.
Sounds good.
And then you come, you talk, you kind of go through the process.
I paid him $1,000 when Biden won on a bet.
I know.
Paid him $1,000.
Okay.
A lot of people did.
Yeah.
And the point, and then I'll go from there to here.
How many people are sitting down saying, I have buyer's remorse.
I want my vote back.
Or sitting there saying, I can't do this again for another four years.
And I think what I've realized also, and this is something that you're going to have to deal with as well, is that, dude, you're never going to love the person.
Like, if you're voting based on the personality, we would all vote for Justin Trudeau.
He's nice.
He's good looking.
We'd all vote for Gavin because he's got great hair.
But policies and personality are totally different.
I think Donald Trump's personality is nails on a chalkboard.
He speaks, you know, Kamala Harris, that dirty bitch.
Like when he speaks, it's so inappropriate.
Like the retarded stuff, the McCain stuff, I'm right there with you.
But if you can look past the personality and look at the policies, that's what it matters for.
You look at Joe Biden.
I do it.
People hate on Joe Biden.
I'm like, he's just like an old, senile, nice guy.
He's not some cruel, evil dictator.
I don't get the hate.
I get that he's old and he's decrepit and you called him a cadaver Joe.
A cadaver Joe.
Another stroke of another good one.
I mean, that's good lord.
But when you look at the policies and the open border and the taxes and the LGBTQS DEI-driven ESG doctrine, it's just hard to just be like, I want more of that, baby.
So I'm a policy.
And I've had to learn, Michael, Michael Rapport, this was not me.
I was just like, ah, I can't deal with Trump.
Fuck him.
But no, you have to look at things and be like, yeah, as much as he is nailed on a chalkboard, you have to do policy.
I think you're going to decide for yourself privately when you're by yourself, nobody is around, and you'll evaluate what's most important policy for you, and then you'll adjust accordingly.
We still got a long ways to go.
You said it right.
We're in February right now.
The game hasn't even started.
This is like the pre-game.
How ugly do you think it's going to get the next few months?
Bad.
To define bad.
In regard to Trump Biden.
It's going to be bad.
I think it would be, to be totally honest, I think it'd be worse if Trump ran and doesn't win.
I think shit's going to get, people are going to go nuts.
Nuts, nuts, nuts.
Because I think his core group of supporters are more prone to, I think, the Biden people are more screaming, yelling, crying, but the other people are more like, yo, we're going to fucking take over that kind of mentality.
So I don't want any of that, nor does anybody.
But that I think would be a concern if he lost, even fair and sports.
But what evidence do you have that his people might get upset and do something about it?
I can't think of anything that they've ever done.
Something that's well, Dr. J ward number six, it was a month.
It was before this month.
I don't.
I can't think of anything that they've ever done when they get upset.
Yeah.
So, but yeah, I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be wild.
So, Nikki Haley, do you curious to know what you think about this?
So, do you think it'll ever get to a time where one of the states will separate and become its own country in America?
No.
You think that's going to happen in our lifetime?
No.
Tell me why.
Because it's just not, it's just not a feasible thing.
No.
Is that what she's talking about?
Yeah, like Texas.
No, she's saying it's not possible.
But there's discussion about the fact that Texas is so sick and tired of the fact that they're trying to protect the border and Biden's administration is getting involved.
So for some states to say, look, we're going to do it ourselves.
We don't need you anymore.
That's not going to happen.
That's just, it's just, you know, the founding fathers, it's just, it's just not going to happen.
It's just, it's just not, it just can't happen.
Texas, it's the most American state.
It's not going to happen.
I don't think it's going to happen.
You think that could actually happen, PBD?
I don't know if I think it's going to happen or not.
I think Texas is most American, but Texas is saying you guys are no longer American.
You're France.
I think Texas is saying California is France the other way around.
Texas is saying we're following the founders.
You're not.
You know, we're being American.
I hear you.
You're being European.
I hear you.
This still doesn't mean they're going to be their own country.
It's just not going to happen.
Okay, but you said it's going to get very ugly.
Yes.
Do you think it's going to get ugly to the point where Trump's camp is going to come out and say, you want to do this?
No problem.
We're going to flip six states, and here's what we're going to turn it into.
That's going to be its own country.
Like, you don't think it's going to get that ugly, ugly, ugly?
Because J6 wasn't ugly.
J6, a lot can say it was ugly, but not.
Not as ugly as what you're talking about.
You're talking about civil war.
I'm talking purely to the point where, because I'm thinking that's where you're going.
If you're saying it's going to get ugly, that means one side is saying, screw you.
You let 20 million people in.
We will never be able to win again.
This will be a Democrat vote for the next 20, 30, 40 years.
You're going to turn this into Europe.
We're going to be losing our voices.
And I'm not having this.
I'm not going to live in a state.
I mean, God forbid that that happens.
You know, that's crazy if something like that happens and it's like that kind of thing.
I mean, you know, as I've gotten older, you know, anything is possible.
You know, there's been a lot of things that have happened, you know, in my adult life that you never thought that the Towards would come down.
You know, there's a lot of things that I never thought would happen.
God forbid that happens.
You know, that's a dangerous, that's a dangerous thing, you know, if that happened.
It's just, I mean, because think about it, though.
Because if he, if the people realize that they're getting screwed over, like they, you know, they, Hillary tried cheating in 2016.
2020 was some shady ass shit.
Was it?
But think about this, Mike.
2020, if.
I think he lost.
Hold on, but hear me out.
He lost.
But let me say my piece.
In 2020, the Democrats had 18.
Oh, wait, was it 40 or 50 FBI agents at Twitter?
No joke, had offices there working to stop any negative stories about Joe Biden or Hunter, which they did a poll that they said, what percentage of people would have not voted for Joe Biden if that happened.
Do you remember the number?
There's a big number.
So, Mike.
But that being said, he still lost.
However, they played the game.
It's a dirty game.
But he did lose.
I agree with that.
But it was the biggest push.
And that's why when, you know, Joe got the amount of votes and Trump got the amount of votes, because I think everybody came out.
I do not think everybody's coming out again.
And I do not think like every last American is going to vote.
Fully agree.
But that being said, this narrative, and also if there was somebody in Trump's ear, stop with the fake election, rigged election.
We got cheated last time.
You lost.
Muhammad Ali lost to Joe Frazier in the garden.
15 rounds.
Everybody fucking loses.
You got to accept, he lost that election.
You know, it's not like every single court in there's, they tried.
There's no proof of it.
We got to move on from that.
And I think it's a bad look for the Republican Party.
And it's a ridiculous look for him still be talking about that.
But I mean, but I think two things can be true at once.
What Vinny's saying about Twitter and the misinformation and the disinformation and the suppression.
That is a separate conversation than the actual counting of the votes.
But if you want to count the votes, Twitter's a piss.
He lost.
If you want to say, well, if it weren't for all this, these votes would have been different.
And I think they pushed him in with the votes.
You know, the suppression going into it.
But I think that's just part of the game.
It's like, you know, like if you could get away with holding at the offensive line, you're holding.
But, you know, I think the Russia Russia Russia, I think some of that was real in the Facebook and all that shit.
But like this fucking guy still, sorry to curse.
He's still talking about the rigged election.
I was like, come on, man.
There's no rigged election.
But don't forget he was also talking about a rigged election when he won in 2016.
You live by the sword, you die by the sword.
He's a new scriptwriter.
Yeah, but at the end of the day, I mean, he doesn't trust anybody.
I wouldn't trust anybody, especially with 2016.
But at the same token, at the same token, I would rather have nuts behind the wheel right now than, by the way, let's say CEOs.
Let's say Pat, there's two CEOs, Mike.
You're a CEO and he's a CEO.
Would you rather have a boss that is loud, brash, whatever, but guess what?
The building is protected.
We get fucking paid.
100% or ready for this?
The guy that's talking nice, but the shit is on fire.
100%.
I don't want a bad guy.
But I'm not saying, don't get me wrong, that was.
That to me is electric interference is the cheating with Twitter.
But the mail-in ballot situation with all the shit that I saw and that overnight jump, I'm just saying, hold on.
Can you blame a guy for not trusting a party that was cheating with Hillary on 2016 and he still beat that bitch?
Like when people say he's crazy, he's not.
I don't think he is.
I think that's the wrong.
This is crazy an egomaniac.
Is he a narcissist?
Is he thin-skinned?
Sure, all that.
But he's not crazy to think that the media is after him.
He's not crazy to think that Pete State is after him.
Of course, because they are.
Yeah, 100%.
Okay, so two things, again, can be true.
This is why it's not black and white.
There's a lot of gray area going on here.
There's a few things that could happen that can make his life very hard.
If the border gets fixed by the end of the year, if they fix it, Trump's chances go lower.
If the economy gets better, dramatically gets better, that decreases his chances.
If they shut down the border and they just close it up and no more people coming in, it'll hurt Trump.
If they put in Newsom and Michelle, it'll hurt Trump.
Michelle's not doing this.
You know what they just did last week, two weeks ago?
So Obama's side, they send out fillers asking donors, what do you think about the—you didn't hear about this last week?
No.
What do you think about the possibilities, the prospects of Michelle Obama?
Would you support her?
And Obama did that with people out there.
Do you have that story, Rob, to pull it up?
Of course it is.
So to see what she would do because they're trying to get somebody that can replace Kamala.
They know they can replace Biden.
They don't know how to replace Kamala.
And if they had a Newsome Michelle, that's a real interesting race there.
If they announce at DNC, it's Newsome-Michelle and Adam always says Vegas Odds president.
Newsome is the president, her is Vice?
Whichever one, vice versa.
So she's not going to do Vice.
That's exactly what I said.
She's not going to do the president either because as cute as it sounds and as egotistical as it sounds, she and her husband know that even if she did snap her fingers and I think she would win, you have to do the job and she does not want to do the job.
I think so maybe go back to it.
Michelle Obama may have notified people in 22 of her White House position.
I plan to run.
I don't believe it.
I don't believe it.
I think they know they did this for eight years.
They know the grind of it.
Oh, yeah.
Why would she do it?
But let me ask you.
I've never been in the Michelle Obama man camp.
I've never been in the presence of Obama's running for president.
Let me ask you a question.
I don't get it.
Let me ask you a question.
How much of becoming a president on the Democratic side?
Hear me out.
How much of being a president on the Democratic side do you think is you getting picked or are you saying, I'm going to be a president?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Okay.
How much of it do you think is the first one over the second one?
I would, oh, go ahead, Michael.
You getting picked?
So meaning, for example, you and your wife, and we come and we say, hey, we'd like to have a meeting with you Thursday night at 7 o'clock.
Yeah.
Take me for a nice meal.
And we're going to say, Michael.
You picked me.
But he sends a car.
He's sending a car to pick me up.
The car's coming, Mike.
You come to our place, private room, penthouse.
We're sitting there.
You watch.
Sushi chef.
Yes.
Anything you want.
We would know what you like.
Food.
Tell us what you like.
A nice sushi shit.
That's how it's done.
That's your favorite sushi.
Okay.
Restaurant?
Yeah.
Nobu?
I mean, there's a bunch of no-boo sugarfishes.
Sugarfish is dope on the sugars is great.
It's straight down the middle.
There's other places that are more exotic.
Noshimoto.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yoshi Noia.
Yeah, Matahisu.
What percentage you think the party comes to you and says, hey, we want you to run and you're going to run and we got money for you.
That works for me and my beautiful wife, but we haven't been president before.
So Barack and Michelle Obama, they know the grind.
They're living, they're producing Netflix.
But I want you to know where I'm going.
She gets to make a choice.
No, I don't think so.
See, that's what I'm saying.
I think they go, yo, we need you.
You're going.
She doesn't need anybody to say we need you.
She understands what's going on.
Yeah, but I guess the question I'm asking, guys, the question I'm asking.
60-40, Pat.
You're saying 60-41.
You're saying 60-40, the establishment comes in and says you've been chosen.
You run a poll.
I'll.
40% buy-in.
So let's just say they come to you.
By the way, I'm kind of with you.
I think it's more them coming to you than I'm going to go be a president.
I agree.
I think there's a lot of guys that say, I'm going to go be a president, and you don't even know their first name.
Yeah, and they just don't have it.
You can't have the, you know, aspirations are great, but I want to be an NBA star six-inch vertically, bro.
Go bold.
You're going to be okay.
But, okay.
So if that's the case, if Obama's were chosen, those same people that came knocking on their doors and turned them into a president, two term, are going to come back and say, look, guys, if you believe in that, now here's the second question.
What's the likelihood of those same guys who are not your friends?
They're not best friends with you.
These are not the type of people that go to dinner with you to get close to you.
Yes.
These are power players.
They intentionally will get the good meal.
It's going to be very good food.
But these are the guys that intentionally keep distance from you so they can be a bad person to you.
And you can't be any emotional about it because, listen, we don't have a relationship.
Okay.
What are the likelihood of them coming and saying the following, of this conversation taking place?
Hey, Michelle, it's party before country, and your party needs you right now.
Because if we don't, Trump's going to get elected.
And we've ran 200 surveys.
We've ran the numbers.
We ran analytics.
And the only two that works to win is you as a president, Newsom as a VP.
We know you don't want to do this because you have a great life.
But if you don't, Trump's going to get elected.
And if you don't, those three things that nobody knows, we would have to leak it.
We don't want to, but we would have to leak it.
We would prefer to be easier.
We can have you only be a one-term, but because after the one-term, we can have somebody else come in.
But we need you to come in right now because we don't have anybody more qualified than you to be the VP.
That's the conversation.
What do you think is the likelihood?
I don't think that that would work with her and Barack.
It's the two of them.
It's not happening.
But Mike, I think who do you think right now is that?
I'm running the Democratic Party.
I'm curious.
Tell me why.
Why do you think?
Because I think that they have been there.
They've done it.
They are living an incredible, successful life of retirement.
They're celebrities.
And I think that Michelle and Barack, both of them know that they would have to do this job that I think they've already, it's like going backwards.
Even though she wasn't the president, she said, I'm not doing this shit.
I sat there and watched this almost kill.
My husband came in there.
He's lean and mean.
He came out of her.
He's like, you know, he made it out.
He's looking better than most.
But I mean, they grade him up and it takes a toll on you.
And I don't think she's doing it.
Their kids are adults.
I think they're done.
I just think they're done.
Still looks good, but I mean, it takes its total.
What do you think?
I personally think it's, I'm being deadass.
Think it's the hey, listen, because if you think about it, who's in charge of the Democratic Party?
Who is it?
I think it's Barack is up there.
Hillary's up there.
Who else would you put up there, Adam?
That's like behind the scenes.
That's like, yo, like, listen, this is what we're trying to do.
The money, the file tech donor.
So, so, Mike, I kind of feel where he's coming from.
It's like, listen, we know you don't want it, but guess what?
We need you.
This is it.
Because, guess what?
This cat is Trump is almost a showing if they don't put him in jail.
If you don't, we are done.
And then he's going to expose everybody.
I don't know.
Here's how I see it.
Okay.
Here's how I see it.
The way I see it is that that won't happen to an anti-establishment candidate.
Okay.
So, what's an anti-establishment candidate?
Like, I don't think you can do that with Kennedys.
I don't think you can do that with Trump's.
I don't think you can do that with RFK.
I don't think you can do it.
I don't think you can do that with the anti-establishment guy.
But the establishment guy, you know what they're saying?
It's a, you know, you vow.
Hey, party before anything.
Anything.
So if it's party before anything, that means if we're going to need you later on, you're going to have to come campaign.
You're going to have to come to this.
And that includes if later on, you're going to kind of run again because it's pretty bad.
Because you know what's going to happen if Trump gets elected?
Do you know the first term Trump got in?
What did he really do?
On his first term?
What did Trump really do to Hillary?
What did Trump really do to anybody?
Nothing really.
Actually, think about how, you know, how you say his bark is louder than his bite.
So he said you'd be in jail.
She never went to jail.
He never went after her.
So he never did nothing.
Would you be concerned if Trump got not?
I know we're staying on Michelle, the potential, but would you be concerned with all his resentment and anger towards all these people?
If he did win, that that would be his agenda and it would sort of, you know, like, you know, just get revenge on everybody?
If in the following way, if in the following way.
If he gets in, he'll fire Ray, he'll fire, he'll replace Powell, he'll get rid of a lot of guys that he doesn't like that he sees as establishment.
And if he gets the right people in that are able to find out, remember when the Twitter files was coming out and we were learning that the FBI was in on it and they were saying you can't do this, you can't do that.
If we get the FBI files, if we get CIA files, meaning if somebody goes in and shows like how dark it is in these institutions and he finds out that the Baracks and the Hillary's and the Michelle, he really, really finds out, I think it's going to be vengeance.
Yeah.
If it gets to that level, is that good for the country?
I don't think it is.
But what I'm saying to you is if he goes in and just wants to get the job done and he does what he does with the economy and then gets another person to come in and be there for eight years, great.
But for me, from the standpoint of ask the question the other way, ask the question the other way.
What if he doesn't find out?
What if another person from the establishment is still running America?
What if another person from the establishment is still in the White House?
What do they do?
They keep using the weapon, the justice, the DOJ to weaponize against anybody they want.
And what does that mean?
Somebody you support later on?
A candidate you support later on?
Man, that is not a country you want to be living in.
It is not a place you want to be in.
Because at that point, your voice doesn't matter.
You're nobody at that point.
So regardless, he didn't do anything on first term.
So you have to ask why.
He either didn't do it because he wanted to be softer on first so he gets re-elected or he was just never going to do it.
Period.
It was just a threat.
I think it was more of a threat.
And if that's the case, he gets elected, they're not going to do anything.
But if you're Michelle, if you're Barack, if you're Hillary, if you're the establishment on the left, do you think they believe that?
I don't think they do.
No.
I don't think they believe what you think.
No.
I think they think he's going to go in and seek vengeance.
Yeah, I think so.
You know what I'm saying?
If you believe what you just said, you do.
If you believe that they believe that he's going to go on to seek vengeance, then Michelle has to go run.
And you just said, too, that you thought he might seek vengeance.
But you said if he got, I don't think he needs any more information at this point.
To find out, you don't need to be pretty blatantly obvious.
He's got enough what he needs.
And, you know, he's been, you know, everybody's going after him.
You know, some valid, some not valid.
So he goes in there.
I don't think he'll be like, like, I don't think he'll be that aggressive.
I think he's going to come in, like you said, fired.
But then guess what, though?
Like, I think he's going to go 100%, shut the border.
He is going to come in again.
Like, Trump wins.
If Trump wins, I think he's going to obviously fire the people that need to be fired.
The people that were the cats that were behind.
That's the question.
I don't think that's the question.
I'm telling you, that's not the question.
I think the question is, the establishment left, how much do they fear Trump getting re-elected that he's going to do that?
A lot.
Well, give me a score between 0 to 100.
100.
Okay, perfect.
If that's the case, Michelle has to run.
I'm betting you 100 bucks.
I've got 100 here that Michelle's not running.
She's pure press.
None of this.
She's producing Netflix films.
Yeah, listen.
It's an easy job producing a specific thing.
So Michael does not think so.
So she might run.
No, no.
She's not running.
I'll do 100 just to have fun.
I don't have.
But what I'm saying to you is, if the left, if the left wants to win, there's only two people.
That's Vegas Outs right now.
By the way, Michael.
Number one is Trump winning.
Two is Biden.
Number three is Michelle.
Michelle was.
They're saying Michelle is going to run.
Vegas knows something.
And mind you, though, Michael, this was a couple months ago.
She wasn't even on the top 30, bro, 40.
Michelle just jumped up.
That's crazy, bro.
I've heard that too.
I just don't know.
It's still 11 to 1.
Look, it's still February.
Is it in the realm of possibility?
Yes.
I've been the biggest proponent that she's not running.
There's been no evidence of running.
You know, if I could pretend to be Joe Biden for a second, and what do you think of the conversation?
It's easy to say he's dementia.
It's easy to say he's an old man.
It's easy to say he's a cadaver.
It's easy to say he's not really running the country.
But let's just role play for a second.
If I'm Joe Biden, I don't even know if he has this kind of oomph in him, but if he wanted to say, listen, Trump came in here.
He tore down Obama's legacy in 2016.
There's that video of Obama showing him around the White House.
It was embarrassing.
You guys ran Hillary Clinton, lost.
You tried to have Bernie Sanders come in, lost.
I show up.
Freaking Joe Biden, I win.
Now, again, he's a little delusional here.
This is role-playing here.
So Michelle Obama's never, she's never been elected for anything in her life.
She's never been elected dog catcher.
All of a sudden, she's just going to manifest herself and become president of the United States.
Yes.
If there is a plan, look at what's going on.
Biden just won New Hampshire.
He won Nevada.
He won South Carolina.
This plan, I think, will unfold by Super Tuesday, which is in 25 days from now, March 5th.
If he's still the candidate, at what point are we going to be like, all right, I think Joe Biden is actually running.
You know what I believe there?
Good point.
I'll believe that at DNC.
So I will believe after all.
August, I will believe then that you're right.
But I'm just telling you, the answer to the question starts with how concerned do you think the left is?
100%.
And if that's how concerned they are, they're not going to take an L to say, let's just take this L this year and go get our draft picks and let's kind of rebuild, like, you know, what is that one motto, the 76ers had every year?
Tank in the trust the process or whatever it was.
Are we going to just trust the process?
No, no, no.
If you believe this is it, because Trump's not going to run 2028, say Trump loses this year.
You think he's going to run 28?
No, he's out.
You never know.
But the point is, if that animal, you never know.
If you think he's that formidable and you know no one's ever won with their approval rating being in the 30s, that includes Biden, that includes Carter, that includes a bunch of guys that were in the 30s that never got reelected, then you cannot sacrifice a election to give it up to Trump.
You have to go to your bench and you have a good bench with two players.
Two players you got.
No, there's a good play.
What you're saying is completely normal and it's not far-fetched at all.
No, this is the Henry Kissinger doctrine, basically.
Stop being like a, you have to think as a pragmatist in reality, not wishful thinking.
The pragmatic point of view would be like, he's running.
He's announced his candidacy.
He's the incumbent of the president of the United States.
He's running.
The train has left the station.
They're acknowledging how fucking bad the poll numbers are.
Did you see my whole video, Biden?
Just a comedian.
It's just, it's to the point where I feel bad.
I'm not even trying to touch.
It ain't a good look for the also.
It's not a good look for the country or the presidency.
And he's talking about Hamas here, right?
Is this the one Ronald Peck?
We saw this?
I haven't seen it.
It was yesterday, right?
He forgot what Hamas's name was.
Look at this.
There is some movement.
And I don't want to.
Some other piece.
Choose my words.
Watch this.
There's some movement.
There's been a response from the.
Somebody has to yell it out.
Look, look.
There's been a response from the opposition.
Somebody yelled Hamas from Blinken.
But it seems to be a little over the top.
No, listen, these guys.
That's sad.
That's sad.
Let me ask you a question.
As of today, and also, I appreciated the way that you went at that dude that was here, that fucking guy.
Basom Yusuf, my good friend, Basim Youssef.
The comedian.
Shout out to you.
The comedian.
But how do you see this coming to an end with Hamas and the hostages and everything that we're dealing with?
How do I see it coming to an end?
Right now, with Hezbollah, the hostages, and what's going to be the end of this?
Let's wrap up on this topic.
We got prep for upstairs.
But here's what I would say with that part.
I think it would be good for Jews if Biden doesn't get caught on a hot mic saying, you know, F Netanyahu.
Go F yourself, Netanyahu.
He's an F and idiot or something.
He's an F and bad guy.
Yeah.
So you say that to Netanyahu.
Netanyahu decides two days ago, ceasefire deal is off the table, right?
Okay, because he knows U.S. doesn't have his back.
So then you have to hope somebody else comes in.
That's not happening right now because when it's this deep in things, there's not going to be another person stepping in.
Iran is publicly the, you know, the leaders are saying, hey, you know, we're going to suspend our attacks on U.S. soldiers and bases.
Okay, so U.S. attacks 125 bombs in 85 locations or something like that.
And then you got these guys on the other side with Iran who are doing proxy galore, Hamas, Houthis, you know, Hezbollah.
And they have Russia has their back.
China has their back.
Iran has the second largest military in the Middle East, 587,000 active soldiers, 200,000 reserve soldiers.
Iran, number three oil reserve in the world behind Venezuela, behind Saudi.
Saudi's got 22.
Venezuela's got 24-4.
Iran's got 17%.
And, you know, the other day, Wall Street Journal story came out saying the fact that if a billionaire wanted to build a nuclear bomb, what would it take him to build?
You know what it was?
A billion dollars and five years to build it.
So if a billionaire can build independently a nuclear weapon with only a billion dollars and it would take him five years, you really are that naive to believe that Iran doesn't already have a nuclear weapon?
How naive are you to even believe that and talk to us like as if you have looked at every square inch of Iran underground?
We just saw what the Hamas built underground.
What do you think they're getting trained?
They're getting trained by the professionals who are the OGs in Iran that are teaching.
So we are way too naive with Iran.
The only way you can fight them off, the closest thing we had every single time it was almost close to topical and there being a revolution is Iranian, the Hezbollah leaders, the people at the top, the Khamenei and those guys, you know who they fear?
They fear their women.
They fear their kids.
They fear sanctions.
They fear students.
They fear not who you think they fear.
That's who they fear.
And by the way, interesting data.
When they held hostages, 50 students, this is during the Carter era.
You know how long they kept the hostages?
For 444 days.
You know when they released these hostages?
A second after Reagan was giving his inauguration speech.
A second.
You kept them for 400.
I think it's 444 days right there.
They kept them for 444 days, 50 hostages.
The moment a Reagan came in, they're like, holy shit.
So Iran fears a strong leader like Reagan and Trump.
They fear it.
Somebody that's like, you do something, I will take out Ghassam Soleimani and everybody else.
If you do this ever again to the U.S. troops ever again, that's number one.
They fear their women.
They fear their kids.
They fear their students.
They fear sanctions.
And that's what Trump was pushing.
Boom, But today, with Hamas, with Israel, unfortunately, U.S., the leader at the top, is not showing that publicly they're supporting them.
They're actually showing, I don't know, man.
That's not a good look.
There's no shipping.
It's not a good look.
When you see something like that and they're watching, there's no strength.
You can do whatever you want.
You're right.
The only thing Iran needs to know is one thing.
If Iran knows U.S. has Israel's back, they shiver.
100%.
But they know they don't.
And they're sitting there saying, this is awesome news.
Yep.
This is awesome news.
Best news ever.
For them, big time.
For Iran, not for it's great news for them.
Anyways, Michael, really enjoyed it, man.
This is awesome.
This was amazing.
So we got two bets.
We got two bets.
One of the bets is here.
Big bets.
Big bets.
Our bet on camera.
Knicks are making the finals.
They don't have to win.
Michelle.
And he's Michelle just running, Mike.
He's just running.
You got $100 bet.
The fact that I came to this show and we didn't discuss one thing about movies, barely anything about sports, anything else, is astonishing to me because the last, I just never thought that I would be sort of having these kinds of discussions because it's not something that, you know, years ago was even like six, seven years ago was in my wheelhouse of discussions.
Life changes now, life changes now.
Diamonds become important.
Anyways.
Winning bet.
Look at me now.
Me winning bets with PBD.
Hey, listen.
When you were growing up in Yonkers, you never dreamed of it.
I thought that you beat his neck.
Come on, enough of this Yonker shit, all right?
By the way, Adam says that Adam grew up in Miami in the rich neighborhoods, you know, so just a schleppen over here hanging out.
