Home Team With Liz Wheeler | PBD Podcast | Ep. 309
On this episode of the PBD Podcast, Liz Wheeler joins the show. Liz is an American conservative political commentator, author, and podcast host. From 2015 to 2020, Wheeler hosted One America News Network's Tipping Point with Liz Wheeler, where she was known for her finale segment, "Final Point."
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Okay, episode number 309, guys.
We are only 691 away from 1,000.
That's just basic math right there, baby.
How long will it take us to get to 1,000 at this pace?
Six years, the way we're going?
Probably something like that to get to 1,000.
But today's a special podcast because we have an old friend back here with us, Liz Wheeler.
She has her own show called The Liz Wheeler Show You Can Catch, as well as a new book that just came out that we'll talk about Hide Your Children, exposing the Marxists Behind the Attacks on America's Kids.
Liz, how are you?
I'm good.
Thanks for having me.
Of course, it's great to have you here again.
We got a lot of things to talk about, specifically with kids.
We'll get into that as well.
And a lot of other issues.
But you know what I want to do just to get everyone's reactions first?
I want to know if your reaction to this clip is the same as mine.
Okay.
And Rob, I know, have you seen this clip yet or no?
I don't know.
I think you maybe, I don't know if you've seen it yet.
Rob, if you can play this clip, I want to see if the audience understands this clip.
And I don't want us to say anything.
I just want us to see what our reaction is going to be to this video.
It's a very good cartoon with Superman in it, and that's the Twin Towers.
Just see if you get the messaging in it.
Go for it.
Superman saves the day again.
Oh my God.
Oh, what do you mean I have the message?
I know it right now.
Did you get it or did you get it?
There was already explosives in the building.
How did it work down?
By the way, this is the thing about cart comedy.
There's so much in one thing.
They're able to say things, and then we get to say, what do they mean by this?
Oh, my God.
Superman couldn't save the day.
Wow.
I saw this video, David.
I said, listen, I'm going to be wanting to share with the audience to see what reactions are.
Five seconds?
And it just said, it just go off and think about what makes it happen.
But maybe the message is even Superman can't save the day today.
Oh, wow.
We need a book.
You know, it's like Lance Armstrong.
It's not about the bike.
We can have in your 9-11 book.
It's not about the planes.
It's not about the planet.
Well, that's an interesting joke right there.
But okay.
All right.
So we got a lot of topics to discuss today.
One, there's a lot of flooding going on.
I'm trying to find out this flooding that's going on all over the world.
Is God pissed off at us?
Is Mother Nature upset?
Is it climate change?
Or is somebody playing with something, the people of power?
Are they using something to create all this stuff?
We'll talk about that.
Two, LeBron James's wife and two associates named in a federal PED investigation.
Some are claiming this is a similar story to what happened with Peyton in the back.
Maybe this is a way where she's getting the PEDs and he's been on growth hormone.
There's some stories out there saying he could be the next Lance Armstrong.
Who knows?
We'll talk about that.
Next, Liz Wheeler had some choice words about Tristan Tate and we have to talk about that on today's podcast and we got to get to the bottom of it because it was some say uncalled for, but some support what she had to say.
And that's a friendly debate.
We'll have that conversation today.
So next, Representative Gates, okay, not Bill Gates, but Matt Gates, says he'll try to remove Speaker Kevin McCarthy from his post this week.
It wasn't good.
It was very ugly.
It'll be interesting to see what happens there.
The world's favorite person, some would say the most annoying person in the world, Megan Merkel, almost made a run for Senate.
There were some talks about her wanting.
Can you see her being in office?
With Oprah, too.
Yeah, with Oprah.
That would be AOC 2.0.
There'd be two of them if that was a take place.
Unbelievable.
Governor Newsom did a couple things this week that got people in California wondering whether he's leaning to the left or center or right or what's he up to.
But he appointed a new Senate seat.
Ron DeSantis tells Bill Maher he can beat Donald Trump.
RFK thinking about running as an independent.
Ford warns UAW strike could end up resulting in 500,000 supplier employee layoffs.
Governor Newsom signs a fast food worker bill that the minimum wage for them goes to $20.
That means a 16-year-old kid working at McDonald's making 20 bucks an hour.
40 grand a year.
40 grand.
I was paid $3.75 an hour at Burger King, maybe $4.25 an hour.
I got a 50-cent raise from Haagen-Daz.
They're going to take you to $20.
I'd love to go back to the future.
Oh, yeah.
Say, can I like, that would be a whole slot.
Yeah.
Taylor Swift, obviously, her career has changed ever since she started dating this Travis Kelsey guy.
He changed her life ever since he dated.
Now people know who she is.
Now they know who she is because her career was on the embarrassing.
And we'll talk about her dominance in NFL.
And we got a couple other stories.
What happened with Jamal Brown?
The bizarre response.
John Bowman, Jamal Bowman, who he pilled, he pulled a fire alarm, right?
Which he thought opens doors.
Right.
Which, by the way, everybody.
For school principal.
The job for firearms.
School principal.
Yeah.
And that's a fact.
But that's such a thing.
He tripped.
He was bracing himself.
Yeah.
You know what he could say?
He could say something like, look, what do you expect from me?
I've been hanging around teenagers my entire life.
Dumb things.
That's their fault.
Not my fault.
Thank you.
That would be the better way.
And then we got a couple other stories about Haley.
Nikki Haley will cover that.
She got a special gift this week.
Big food, big pharma companies bet on snacking just as weight loss, drugs, boom.
Finance experts warn of Bloody Sunday for Americans, and 60% of Americans are living still paycheck to paycheck as inflation hits workers' wages.
I want to start off with the first video and start off with you, Liz, because I think it's appropriate with the book that you just wrote.
So, you know, a lot of people around the world and some people in the West are trying to get the Western ideas, not the Western conservative ideas, but the Western liberal ideas to people around the world.
And they tried to do an LGBTQ strike in Lebanon.
I don't know if you saw the results, what happened there.
This is what took place when they did a LGBTQ rally protesting in Lebanon.
If you can just play this clip, it doesn't look like the people of the city were happy.
And so, what these guys, those guys were protesting for the LGBTQ community, they were protesting for the LGBTQ community.
So, you know, so they're not too happy about it.
And then I saw this other clip, and then I'll come right to you.
If you can play this other clip, this is a book that's being sold.
LGBTQ book for children has a section titled How to Argue with Muslims, right?
How to Argue with Muslims.
If you can click on this, go for it.
Muslims.
And they want to be inclusive.
How to argue with a Muslim.
And this book is gay.
Wow.
How to argue with Muslims.
Please, guys, get this out.
Get this out to every single parent.
I mean, this is not just a few books.
This is a whole ideology being pushed on the children.
And now they're told to argue with Muslims.
Wow.
You know.
You can stop it right there, Rob.
Why are they doing this, Liz?
Why is this happening?
It's a religious belief for them.
It's an ideology.
The term inclusion or the term tolerance is never something that they wanted.
They never wanted just the right to be able to live with whoever they wanted or love whoever they wanted or even marry whoever they wanted.
They've always wanted to force this ideology on us.
There was a story out of California from last week where a student out there was suspended from school for five days for quote-unquote misgendering.
And I mean, that's not an isolated incident, but it does make it pretty clear that they weren't just that the ideology of the LGBTQIA lobby is not just, oh, let us live our lives, make sure that we're safe and not persecuted, that they want to force other people, especially Christians or religious people, Muslims.
They want to force people to embrace that and celebrate that.
Otherwise, they're going to be socially ostracized.
You know why a part of this I like is 74% of Muslims vote Democrat, okay, till today, which doesn't make sense to me on why they do, but they do.
You know, it's content like this that if the left is watching, just so they know, the Muslims are watching, we have a Muslim community that watches a podcast, to know they're targeting your community, your denomination, your religion.
They're targeting you now to explain how to do that.
It's shameless at this point.
Not only are they trying to go to Muslim countries to bring that ideology to their kids, at the same time, they're putting in the books.
And it's more things to be thinking about to reconsider what way you vote your leaders, because the right is not sitting there saying, let's indoctrinate your kids.
At least if there's one thing like, I remember the tipping point when Joe Rogan and Elon Musk were sitting there saying, you know what, if you want to save the country, vote Republican.
I just finished Musk's book that just came out.
And there's a chapter where he talks about that.
Tom, I don't know if you're there yet.
On what he talks about, okay, there's a part where he talks about, you know, you got to, if you want to save the country, vote Republican.
Musk has been a left his entire life.
I mean, his whole thinking has been about saving the environment.
But now those policies, a lot of people that were on the left who have kids going to school going through this, they're experiencing it.
Tom, what do you think about when you see a story like this?
Both Lebanon and what they're putting in books on how to argue with Muslims.
Well, Lebanon, it just goes to show you that when you have a homogeneous, in other words, vastly similar culture and crowd, when you come in with just a lightning rod issue like this that is so diametrically opposed, I mean, the majority, let's just say one to 10, the majority of the country over there, it's like about an eight in their agreement and in their intensity.
And you come in here like a three, you know, you know, I'll translate the, what were they speaking there?
Arabic?
Arabic.
I'll translate the Arabic for you.
You know, get out of here before I bloody your other eye.
You know, it's basically, or before I take your head off.
So you.
I had no idea you spoke Arabic.
That was a good idea.
But I think my translation is pretty close.
So on the first hand is you're kind of crazy whether if you were Jewish or you were Christian or you were Mormon that to come in and to do something so you know ostracizing on one side like that.
You cannot expect that.
It's almost like he sent in there to be a sacrificial lamb so that they can get the B-roll.
Oh, you know, this LGBT person is being persecuted in some other country.
It's almost like it's a triggering effect.
And then the book, I don't think they understand what they're dealing with.
If they thought that the Glendale moms, those brave heroes, I call them, the Armenian moms that were peacefully protesting and then it got really big at the schools in Glendale, if they thought that was bad, then show up in a real Muslim community with that book and wait what happens because they'll come out of the woodwork.
Muslims are not good with LGBTQ.
They'll take you to a tall building and teach you to base jump.
Which is you want to go first?
Well, I was just going to say, too, the hypocrisy of it.
Liz, I'm pretty sure you guys have seen it.
These books that they're pushing on the children, they won't even let fathers, like that gentleman in Texas, read the book out loud at a school board meeting because they're like, this is inappropriate.
Think of the hypocrisy, Pat.
Oh, do you have that video?
Can you play that?
Find that video.
We watched it yesterday.
Think about that.
The pastor.
The kids couldn't read it and digest this and live that life.
But a grown man in front of all grown people, no children in there, he couldn't read the words that you're pushing on the kids.
And like, it's supposed to, like, I don't understand the ideology around like how that's normal.
The kids could read it and digest it, but we can't hear it out loud in public.
That's hypocritical.
School board meeting saying, are we sure about this?
Let me read it.
Yeah, are we sure?
One of the books was called Flamer, and the other one was called Who Wants My Hot Wiener.
It's like, when are we going to stop particularly?
It's a really called Who Wants My Hot Wiener.
Yeah, 100%.
I'm not joking, Pat.
The book is called Who Wants My Hot Wiener?
I'm looking at it right now.
Depending on how that book is like appropriate.
Hold on.
I'm telling you right now.
Which a character asked, oh, I'm sorry, Who Wants My Wiener?
It's in the book Flamer.
The novel is called Flamer, and inside he goes, What's his name?
What's the pastor's name?
The pastor's name.
I don't know, but it's a Texas school board meeting.
So what's really interesting while you're finding that, what's really interesting about that book is I talk about that book in my book because Randy Weingarten of the American Federation of Teachers, they partner with a book company that promotes that book in children's schools across the country.
So this is not an isolated incident.
This is something that's being promoted from the top down.
Which you don't even have to be conservative as a parent to not want your child indoctrinated with that.
And listen, he asked this question, like, I go in because I want to know the actual reason why.
Is it because, you know, and all these elites are always preaching about overpopulation.
Is it because all those kids, that whole community, aren't having any children?
And that's just another method of us not having more people walking around sucking up all these natural resources.
Bill Gates has always said the biggest problem to our community is overpopulation.
And why not have a whole like generation of people that don't want to have kids?
You want to play this liberal quick and then Adam come to you?
Go for it.
This book here is called It's Perfectly Normal for Students 10.
And this book details all kinds of duo images, pictures of elderly people, nude, pictures of an individual who's in a wheelchair with his out.
All of these duo graphic images are made available and placed at the fingertips of children.
This is immoral and asinine to allow children to be able to see this.
Pause this one.
Play the one I just texted you.
It's not this one.
Because the next one, Pat, he's reading it.
Yeah, I think.
Did they pick him out, Pat?
No, you have to stop.
You have to stop.
Don't talk.
You have to stop.
It's like they're offended by the remote that they're reading for your kindergartner.
Yeah, exactly.
I just texted it to you if you want to find it.
But go ahead, Adam, until he finds it.
Well, I think there's two separate issues going on right here.
Number one, you know, the LGBTQ plus pie sign, all the stuff, you know, the alphabet mafia, as they call it, it's a very distinct group of individuals.
Like, personally, as a straight guy, you know, often I growing up in Miami and South Beach, huge gay community, I have gay friends.
I would always joke at them like, hey, you guys do your thing.
More chicks for me.
But I will say there's a major difference between the L, the G, the B.
Then there's the T.
So someone's sexual orientation, gay, straight, in America, I don't think that's any of our business.
Now, when they start getting involved in the kids, or when you're starting to get into hormone blockers or pre-puberty blockers, and the T specifically, that's the biggest question.
I think we've made major inroads to accepting gays in America.
And the problem that I see in this Lebanese video is that they're condoning violence, which is basically hate crimes against someone different from you.
And Tom made up a good point.
All right, where do you draw the line?
All right.
So you're Jewish.
All right.
We know what's happened to them.
Christians, we know what's happened to them in the Middle East.
Where does the line stop?
You know, the famous poem: First They Came for the Gypsies.
I wasn't a Gypsy, so I didn't say anything.
Then they came for the Jews.
I didn't say anything.
Then they came for the Ukrainians.
Oh, everyone.
And then they came for me.
Silent citizens.
No one was there to say anything.
So as much as I'm like, hey, I understand the agenda that's going on here, specifically in the tea community.
What is a man?
What is a woman?
Well, it's been pretty freaking clear forever, but that's being different.
But gay people have been around forever.
Lesbians have been around forever.
So it's a little disconcerting to see what's going on specifically in Lebanon.
Final point.
You know, it's kind of like the Lebanese versus the lesbians.
We all know that the Middle East, I think Lebanon is the angriest country in the world.
Yep.
Literally.
Turkey's number two.
And then Armenia is number three.
Shout out to the Middle East.
But going deeper in Lebanon, like if you want to go, you know, the C word, conspiracy, you know, that whole word, that there's a bigger issue at play here.
Because just like, you know, I don't think, you know, America gets criticized for having regime change or trying to topple regimes or indoctrinate our values into the Eastern world.
We're not doing that in Lebanon.
They're doing their thing.
They're called the Paris of the Middle East, but they do have a major faction in their country that is run by extremists, which is known as Hezbollah.
So the cultural wars that's happening there, some say that there's a major, they've been trying to elect a president for a year.
There's political headwinds going on.
There's economic, major crisis going on.
And some say that the people of power, especially the right-wing extremists, are using this attack on the LGBT community to basically divert attention from the real problems that are going on.
And that situation right there, obviously, nobody here obviously condones any type of violence with anything.
If you're gay, nobody cares.
But notice, Adam, look at how crazy that we've gotten right now.
That attitude there, which I'm not condoning, but you know what that's called?
Nipping it in the bud.
Because once that starts, then it's the schools and the books and the kids.
Guess what's not going to happen?
By the way, that's a regular Tuesday.
I've been in Iran 10 years.
All the time.
And FYI, there's a reason.
When I asked the question, I said, why do Muslims move to Christian countries to raise their families, but Christians don't move to Muslim countries to raise their families?
That's a question that we had on the debate here.
Very valid question.
And that's one of the reasons, okay?
Well, because, but I will tell you, one of the parts that you don't have to worry about where they stand, they don't compromise what they stand for.
They're straight up.
This is us.
You don't like it.
You can take me to jail.
You can do this.
You can do that.
I'm not sitting for someone like this.
I want you to watch this video.
Play this clip real quick.
Play this script real quick.
Because this is the one.
It's called It's Perfectly Normal.
I'll read some of this for you.
It says, After a bit, a person becomes moist and slippery.
And the clitoris becomes hard.
After a bit, a person becomes erect, stiff, and larger.
Sometimes a bit of clear fluid that may contain some sperm comes out of the tip of the knees and makes it wet.
Can we?
Sir, I'm sorry.
Was it something I said?
If you don't want to hear a school book meeting, why should children be able to check it out of the school system?
But you don't have to read it.
Why?
Does it bother you?
Yes or no?
You can't answer that question.
You want to know why?
Because politically speaking, you can't say that it's wrong.
And you don't want me to read the filth because it exposes the truth.
How dare you tell me to stop reading it?
If you don't want to hear it, why should the children have to see it?
Pastor, your time is up.
Thank you.
Oh, man, I love that guy.
Thank you, Jesus.
This is why Liz's book is so important because it is all about the kids.
Yeah.
Right.
Like, my biggest thing with the alphabet mafia, specifically the tea stuff, is two things.
It's stay away from the kids and stop grown-ass men being in women's sports.
I don't think that's too hard to ask.
You have a child.
I do.
And I know that's a major concern of yours.
But once someone's 18, they can make their own decisions.
I mean, to a certain extent, I would probably argue that that's medical malpractice since it's not treating.
You can identify however you want.
You can't force other people.
I'm not saying identifying.
I want to comment on the Lebanon video.
I want to comment on the Lebanon video for a second because there's a reason that that's going viral in the United States on social media.
It's because that doesn't often happen here in the United States as the LGBTQIA lobby.
And I understand your argument separating the two, but for all intents and purposes, gay people and lesbians and bisexual people have not disconnected themselves from this lobby.
You can argue that the transgender lobby has latched on to what they have accomplished, but they haven't severed that and said, hey, we're going to be separate, except for the, what are they called?
TERFs, the trans exclusionary radical feminists who are like the lesbians that are like, wait a second, wait a second, all of our women's rights are erased if there's transgender stuff.
But the reason that video from Lebanon went viral here in the United States is because that's actually very uncommon.
And the other side, the LGBTQIA lobby, wants us to think of any criticism or any parental objection to the graphic stuff being taught to our children.
They want us to think that that leads immediately to violence.
But let me tell you about one of the things that I had to read in the course of researching this book.
This was the most disturbing thing I ever read.
And we all work in the news.
We read disturbing things all the time.
I read the founding document of queer theory, which is just like we learned a couple of years ago that when black children are told they're oppressed and white children are told they're racist, we realized, oh, that's the principles of critical race theory, right?
We saw what was being taught before we recognized what its origin was.
Well, the same with the transgender ideology, the stuff about gender being a spectrum, being disconnected from biological sex, that you are what you identify.
That's not just a random assortment of nonsense.
That is, those are the principles of queer theory.
It's also a neo-Marxist theory like critical race theory.
So when I'm writing about this, I thought, well, I should read the founding document.
I should read the source documents to see what they believe, what they want to happen, what they want to teach children, what their goal is with this theory, because this has become so prevalent in the last really eight years since 2015.
So I pull up this document.
It was written by a woman named Gail Rubin.
She's alive and well in our country today.
She founded some lesbian bondage clubs in San Francisco, but she's in academia now.
She wrote an essay called Thinking Sex, which like I said, is the founding document of queer theory.
And in this document, she not only lays out these principles that gender is a spectrum, that you can be a boy if you want to be a boy, she actively defends child pornography.
She defends outright pedophilia and tells people that we as a society, yeah, there it is, thinking sex, that we as a society will regret imprisoning the quote, men who love underage boys, pedophiles, within 20 years.
And she, men who love underage youth, and advocates for the sexualization of children.
So what we're seeing in the school classrooms when we see these graphic books, this is their goal.
It's not inclusion.
It's not tolerance.
It's not, oh, your sexual orientation doesn't define who you are.
You're much more than what you're sexually attracted to.
This is their ultimate goal.
And if we don't listen to what they say and believe them, then our children are going to be.
Liz, thank you for pointing this out.
I had Rob real quick just take, find a picture of her slash that guy.
So that's her.
What is that?
Yeah, she's a lesbian.
Yeah, this is a woman, Gail Rubin.
Is this a born?
Can we see some other images of this?
A picture looks like it's a matter of work.
She works at McDonald's.
Go back to that picture.
With the vest?
Yeah.
Blue shirt.
Does it not look like a fast food rip?
I mean, if you didn't tell me straight up that that was a woman, I would, there's a high likelihood I'd think that was just a fat, ugly dude.
Sorry.
She's not even transgender, to my knowledge.
I mean, go back to the thinking sex essay.
24 years old.
Look up what they say about child pornography.
Yeah.
February 1977, shortly after the Day County vote, a sudden concern with child pornography swept the national media in May.
Chicago Tribune ran a lurid four-day series with three-inch headlines.
Rob, if you're on it, I actually can't read it.
Yeah.
Three-inch headlines, which claim to expose a national vice range organized to lure young boys into prostitution pornography.
Which section do you want us to read?
It's a little bit further down.
Go a little down.
She excuses this.
She makes it seem like that this is a witch hunt against people that possess this, so that's their First Amendment right to possess images that depict the sexual abuse of fathers and children.
Yeah, the laws produced by the child porn pandemic are ill-conceived and misdirected.
Well, just to be clear, Liz, because I want to get...
They represent far-reaching alterations in the regulation of sexual behavior and abrogate important sexual civil liberties.
Like you have to say, the civil liberty to possess child pornography.
Hardly anyone noticed as they swept through Congress and state legislatures, with the exception of the North American Man-Boy Love Association, Americans, which, by the way, is a pedophile.
It's a lobbyist for pedophile.
Pedophilia.
Or it's not, they don't call them that anymore.
It's minor attracted person.
That's just their way of sanitizing.
But isn't this shocking to you?
This is absurd.
This should be illegal.
This is disgusting.
All iterations of that.
You saw Sound of Silence, I assume.
Sound of Freedom.
Sound of Freedom.
Okay.
Sound of Silence part two.
I was like, no, I didn't.
What is that?
Silence of the Lambs.
Simon Garth.
Sound of Freedom.
Hello, Simon Freedom.
Which is my old friend.
No, Clary.
Was it a sexual movie?
Very hard to watch.
I don't think, other than these actual freak shows, nobody's advocating for anything with minors.
I actually just found out recently because of Russell Brand that, you know, the average age of consent in the United States is actually 16 in 35 states.
I had no idea.
Okay, because he was accused of doing something.
That was in the UK that he was accused.
Correct.
So I went down the rabbit hole and I said, is 16 illegal?
It's actually not in the UK.
Now, I'm not trying to hang out with high school girls, but in most states, it actually is 16 in the United States.
Right, but that's not what they're talking about here.
I'm fully endorsing that.
The books that we were, the books that I was reading from, those people are academic, academically, and ideologically in alignment with queer theory.
It's not just, oh, this is some freak show paper that I pulled from some random academic.
If you look on her Wikipedia page, she is credited as writing the founding document of queer theory.
That's what this is.
She's like, she's like the Kimberly Crenshaw or Derek Bell of critical race theory.
Like, she's the origin of it.
You know, the thing that you said, hey, I watched them beat these guys up and then boom.
What was the quote that you were saying?
And Tom kind of finished the quote with you.
You were saying they came for the gypsies, then they came for the Jews.
What about coming for the children?
That quote applies to what she's saying.
What she's saying is, you're like, wow, give me a break.
It's just, they're gay.
It's just to leave them alone.
What's the big deal?
And da-da-da-da-da.
And then all of a sudden, you get married and you have kids, and your three-year-old kid comes home one day from school and she's like, wait a minute.
No, no, I'm putting my foot down.
And then it's too late.
So the part that the people who are experiencing this pain the most, and I want to go to the next story, but I want to say final thoughts here before we go to the next story.
We're going to get a chance at the end as well for you to kind of tell us more about the book.
I wanted to start off with the story.
And Rob, let's put the link below for people that want to buy her book.
You can go pick up her book.
The link will be in the description.
Here's what I was thinking about the other day.
When you watch strikes, who typically strikes?
You see the workers, right?
Union workers, United Auto Workers go on a strike.
Writers, Guild, you know, go on a strike.
Actors go on a strike.
All these workers going on a strike.
When have you seen parents go on a strike?
I don't understand this.
I'm telling you, I have a suggestion, parents.
I'm going to keep talking about this until somebody takes the lead on this and screams it off the top of their lungs.
And then they do it.
I would love to see a one-month parent strikes one million kids in America for one strike.
Pull them out of public schools.
Pull them out of public school for one month.
And what I would do is out of those million kids that are being taken out, find out how many of those parents, how many of those kids' parents are teachers, okay?
Where parents can actually teach a certain course, Zoom.
So what you need to do is a million divided by what?
Let's just say it's a million divided by how many kids per Zoom.
How many Zooms can we have per classroom?
They do group homeschoolings like 15 or so when it's like you teach politics, 15 homeschooling.
So let's just say 20, okay?
So million, 20, it's what?
5,000?
Is that how many we need?
Is it 5,000 or 50,000?
We need 50,000, right?
So if you got 20, you got 50,000 parents, 20 to 1.
If you got 50,000 parents that say, I'll teach a class for one month, no problem.
Why don't we do that?
Okay, you take one month of your salary, say four grand a month, six grand a month, five grand a month, no problem.
We'll fund it.
You go take one month off.
Parents, if you're that upset about this, why don't you take a one-month strike?
Okay.
Flip it on everybody else.
It's constantly the workers going on a strike.
How about for once customers going on a strike?
And here the customer is who?
The parent.
Parents taking their kids to school is a customer.
Okay, parents, why don't we go on a one-month strike?
In a sense, we're doing a lot of parents have been doing that.
I mean, the number of homeschoolers in the last three years have like tripled.
There's like 5 million homeschooling schoolers compared to.
You're talking about like a month moving, like a child pride month.
Everybody would shut it down.
But what the homeschoolers are doing is they're making a choice to protect their families.
They're not doing a rally cry for others to join a strike type of a thing.
To do a strike, it's got to be a unified group coming together saying, guys, for the month of November, we're taking one month.
We're taking our kids out of school for one month, okay?
And come join our homeschool and come do something like this.
One month, let's get out.
Let's show America how united we are.
And then let's bring the governors of those states to a place, a hearing.
No, you have to listen to what's in the book.
No, you have to hear what's going on.
No, we are not putting them back in school until you change it.
No problem.
Hey, you know what you did, government?
Here's the biggest mistake the government did.
And by the way, let me tell you why I believe this is possible.
Do you remember when companies like Twitter came out and they said, well, you know, at Twitter, we have made a decision.
You can work from home for the rest of your life.
And all the shit, that's a guy's terrible idea.
I just say that.
You should have never said that.
Please come back.
Well, you said four days a week.
So what happened was what COVID did, the best thing COVID did, COVID taught parents, we can actually homeschool.
COVID was actually terrible for public schools to realize, holy shit, if these parents realize they don't need us, we're going to be in deep trouble.
Well, guess what, parents?
You don't.
Why don't we do a 1 million kid strike?
Okay.
1 million kids strike for 30 days and then let them feel the pain.
Then they have to adjust.
Schools are going to be like, wait a minute, where the hell are these kids?
We can't be doing something like we're not hitting our numbers.
We're not doing this.
We're not doing that.
And by the way, you're like, well, you know, what if it hurts their GPA?
What if it hurts this?
What if it hurts that?
At this point, it again, quite frankly, as if going to college was the same value it was 30 years ago.
The same thing they were teaching 30 years ago is the same thing they're teaching today.
If you ain't doing STEM anyways, why do you care about it?
Let's really disrupt the educational system.
Unless if your kids are not going to become a doctor, a lawyer, a engineer, this, this, that, forget about it.
Let's do this.
Let's get them to realize you're in charge, the people, and let's get some movement going.
If you really want to save it, you have to get your hands dirty because think about it.
If you can't read the book out loud at a school board meeting or you can't come to a school board meeting without the FBI labeling you a domestic terrorist, I say this all the time.
It's time to fight fire with fire.
We got to get dirty.
Get dirty.
Here's the thing.
We have to have an objective, though, if we do this.
It can't just be a protest.
There has to be a concrete change that we're able to articulate that we want to happen in the schools, or else it'll just very quickly fall back.
And let me tell you this.
This was so interesting.
So public schooling in our country wasn't even mandatory until 1852, which isn't that long ago.
And the reason it became mandatory, Massachusetts was the first state to make it mandatory.
And it became mandatory because there was an influx of immigrants to our country at the time, particularly Catholic immigrants.
And the Protestant politicians in charge of Massachusetts wanted to indoctrinate these immigrant children in American values.
So they'd be loyal to America first rather than the country of their birth.
And they wanted to indoctrinate them in Protestant values because of the centuries-long battle between Protestants and Catholics.
And I was researching this as part of my book, and I realized, well, our education system actually is intended to be an indoctrination center.
We think of indoctrination negatively just because of what the left is indoctrinating, but it's actually a very like nebulous, morally neutral concept.
It depends on what's being indoctrinated.
But sometime between when it became compulsory and now Republicans lost sight of that and started treating it as this neutral institution where we just teach reading, writing, and arithmetic, I would argue that when you have children under your care for eight hours a day, there's no way that you can just interact in a value neutral way.
You are going to be imparting some kind of values.
And if we are going to do something like a million parent or a million child strike, we have to call for fundamental changes to the education system, which means taking it back to teaching American values and Judeo-Christian morals.
Otherwise, if our values are predominant in this institution, the Democrats' values are going to be.
We wouldn't tell people to take a strike for the hell of it.
Obviously, there would be an agenda behind doing something like that.
But what I'm saying is for us to realize what things we have in common right now.
One is our conservative values that have disappeared.
Okay.
We've taken, we're afraid of prayer for whatever reason, but we're not afraid of LGBTQ stuff being taught in school.
Very confusing for me.
And when it comes down to certain things that's being taught right now, if we can unify around three things, someone needs to take the lead, make a website, write down five things we're demanding and asking to change, go on a one-month strike, get people to volunteer.
Let's pick the dates on when it's going to happen.
Let people feel the pain.
If we are supporting unions going on strike and destroying businesses, great.
Why don't we do the same thing to you?
The biggest union in America is teachers' union.
The biggest union in America's teachers union.
Let's let them feel the pain a little bit.
Hey, guys, you keep trying to bully all of our kids?
Hey, let us kind of give you a little bit of a taste of your medicine.
And we've never done this before.
Love it.
I think the parents showed during COVID you can actually pull this off.
Let's go to the next story.
Okay.
All these flooding that's going on, okay?
We're seeing it all over the world.
New York, terrible situation, right?
You got Libya.
I'll read a couple of these stories here.
Climate change and NYC historic rain buckles cities infrastructure.
Again, this is an NBC story talking about a severe storm with over seven inches of rain in less than 24 hours wreaks havoc in New York City.
Rob, if you can find a video without audio to just play it, inundating streets and crippling transportation system, highlighting the city's vulnerability to climate change-driven extreme weather.
Look at that.
That part is very that's New York.
People are walking in that.
Yeah, I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, that's it.
It doesn't make any sense.
And then, by the way, another one here in Las Vegas.
After historic flooding, what's next for recreation of Mount Charleston?
Okay, in August 21st, a historic flood caused Tropical Storm Hillary devastated Mount Charleston, Nevada.
Can you go to that one right there if you can find a video on Mount Charleston?
Nevada flood best hurricane.
Yeah.
With eight inches. of rainfall in 48 hours damaging homes, buildings, and infrastructure, although no injuries reported.
Then, this is Nevada, by the way, which makes no sense.
And then you have Libya, which is the most tragic one.
Libya flooding, deaths up to 11,000, tops 11,000 as thousands reported missing.
The death toll for the catastrophic floods in eastern Libya has climbed to 11,000, with nearly 4,000 bodies recovered and identified, and more than 9,000 people still missing, as reported by the Libyan Red Crescent and the World Health Organization.
Dr. Ahmed Zoitan of WHO, World Health Organization, called the disaster of epic proportions, while Ahmed Al-Hadid of the Red Crescent noted that bodies were washing up on the beaches as far as 150 kilometers away.
And FYI, there's flooding going on in a bunch of different places that we can show as well.
It's eight different big floods going on around the world at the same time.
So what's the reasoning behind it?
Is it one, it's God is upset and he is upset with what we're doing with his kids.
He's upset with what we're doing, what's been given to us.
Is it Mother Nature?
Is it climate change?
Or the fact that it's all happening at the same time, an agenda that's taking place.
I asked this question on Monday morning with my C-suite executives just to spark conversation.
What are your thoughts on what's going on with this?
What's the reason behind it?
This is actually a story that I actually follow pretty closely because I'm born and raised in Miami.
We've been dealing with flooding forever, especially in Miami Beach and South Beach.
It floods.
We're on the bay.
We're near the ocean.
The bay overflows, especially in the canals.
The streets get flooded.
What we've done in Miami is we've risen, raised the streets.
Like literally, they bring the street up five feet.
So if you look at the cities that are the most vulnerable to flooding, here's Insurify because I trust insurance companies because they actually have to pay out.
Just kind of like how Vegas has to pay out when there's odds.
Miami, on a score of one through 100, 100.
Wow.
Number one city in America.
And there's three states that are basically affected by flooding in the United States.
There's Miami, Miami, Florida.
There's Hialeah there.
There's Hollywood, Florida, which is 10 minutes south of us where we did the vault.
And I believe Tampa's on this list.
Then you have New York, Brooklyn, New Jersey City, all basically outer bureaus of New York City.
And then you have certain cities in Texas.
So in the United States, the cities that should be the most focused on this, I assume, are, right?
Miami's taking action.
I have no clue what New York is doing.
I don't know what Eric Adams is doing.
Certainly don't know what Bill de Blasio was doing.
I know that Bloomberg was doing all right.
And obviously your people down in Texas are doing their thing.
But when it comes to cities most vulnerable in the world, nobody is taking it higher than in China, India, and I believe it's Indonesia, but Southeast Asia.
So the hemispheres or the parts of the world that should be the most attentive to this are North America and Asia, specifically Southeast Asia.
But if you want to go Tom Ellsworth and get some stats here, the temperatures have risen by an average of 0.14 Fahrenheit per decade since 1880.
Why 1880?
Because that's post-Industrial Revolution, right?
Which was late 1700s, American Revolution, to basically almost the Civil War, where basically machines took over handwork, persons versus machines.
So, this is what concerns Gen Z, which I understand, especially if this is all they hear.
So, since the Industrial Revolution, temperatures have risen 2% degrees Fahrenheit hotter, okay?
That's overall.
The rate of warming since 1980, however, is two times as rapid, 0.32 per decade.
2022 was the warmest year ever on record.
We'll see where 2023 finishes.
We're not done yet.
And bottom line is the 10 warmest years on historical record have all occurred since 2010.
So the question is not, is the globe getting warmer?
It certainly is, if you believe science and trust the science.
And all this information, if you want to fact-check me, is at the NOAA, the National Association of Atmospheric Administration.gov.
But to what extent is human activity in this, right?
So we've seen it since the post-Industrial Revolution, machines, the fogs, cars, airplanes, we see that.
You have Leonardo DiCaprio's of the world and the people flying to Davos while they're saying global warming.
So to what extent is human activity?
But the bottom line is it's expected to go five degrees Fahrenheit higher by the end of the century.
So is this something that I think about every single day, my demise?
No, I kind of want to work, kind of want to live my life, kind of do my thing.
But when I'm driving in the streets of Miami and it's flooded, it's kind of hard not to pay attention to what's going on.
Tom, what do you think is going on here?
The Earth has had cycles and these cycles have come and gone.
You know, archaeologists, why do we always find old civilizations under six feet of dirt?
Because something happened and it flooded and it covered them up.
Now, is that to say that, you know, all the pollution that we create is good?
No, less pollution in any form would be better.
But are we dramatically driving 100% of what we see?
No, I don't think so.
I think the Earth's had its cycles.
We have a cycle that's going on now.
We've had ice ages that came and go.
And, you know, if the caveman had CNN, they would have been worried about global cooling for several centuries.
So are we having an impact?
Sure.
Man is having something of an impact.
I think there's also cycles that happen.
And you can look back in history and kind of see the way structures of Earth and geology have changed from time to time.
There have been cycles.
Liz.
I think I would probably take a little more pragmatic approach to it.
So you mentioned the temperature difference between 1880 and now.
Well, 1880 is the year that we started tracking global temperatures.
So it's not that since 1880, we've seen all these changes.
We didn't track temperatures before that.
So it's not really quite fair to quite fair to compare that.
I think infrastructure and the increase in infrastructure, especially in the United States, plays into it.
I mean, if you want to use New York as an example, their sewer system for sewer water are made of clay pipes that haven't been replaced in like 100 years.
Obviously, their infrastructure is crumbling.
Their infrastructure is also like, if you look at the skyline of New York City now compared to 100 years ago, it's much different, right?
So as we continue to build, look at Miami, for example.
You've seen those before and after pictures of Miami.
As we continue to build up infrastructure in these cities that are on the coast or are vulnerable to storms, that's obviously going to cause greater damage because we've chosen to build there.
I'm skeptical of the claims made by the climate alarmists that say that the Industrial Revolution and CO2 and fossil fuels are responsible for this because I don't think that they give, I think, I think that they lose some credibility when they don't also state what the positives for humanity have been for these things.
And they've had so many of their predictions debunked, even since like the 1980s, these climate alarmists have told us that we're going to have states falling off, that polar bears are going to die, that Greenland's going to be covered in water.
And none of the things that they've said, I mean, five years ago, Greta Thunberg said we were going to be dead by now, and we're not.
They're not really very credibly science-based people.
So I suspect that there's an agenda behind the alarmism because that is what the ruling class typically does: they try to spark fear in the hearts of people in order to push an agenda.
It's pretty clear what their agenda is, whether it's coming from AOC or from the World Economic Forum.
They really want to move us towards a more socialist economy just based on fear.
So Liz, let me ask you this because you made some fair points, especially, you know, where'd Greta Thunberg go to school?
Yeah.
For this, she did.
No, she's not.
She's 14.
She just laughs every time she gets arrested.
So she's certainly used as a pawn by whoever is pulling the strings, no doubt.
And I do agree that there's, to an extent, climate alarmism, and Gen Z has fallen major victim to this.
You can see that they that's their number one priority.
It's the number one sleeplessness.
You also made a valid point about the Industrial Revolution, 1880.
But how do you explain the last 10 years have been the hottest ever?
So I get the 1880, but how do you explain the last 10 years?
Well, there are, like he was saying, there are fluctuations in global temperatures.
I mean, we can.
Over 10 years?
Yeah, we go through warm periods.
We go through cool periods.
We really don't have enough scientific data to make sweeping statements about what these temperature cycles mean because we have such a limited amount of data.
I'm no science.
I'm no science.
This is straight gut.
I would assume this happens over tens of thousands of years.
There are cycles that are.
The ice age, the heat age, whatever, the Mesozoic, the Paleolithic, all this stuff happens over hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years.
But 10 years seems pretty extreme to me to go up that much.
I would like an explanation for you.
Maybe 10 years because I mean, if you feel, if you want to get biblical and stuff, it feels like the devil is running the shoal right now.
Maybe that's maybe that's what it's.
Can you think about it?
Adam, if you think about it.
You don't think there are micro cycles in addition to the macro cycles that there can be small fluctuations?
I'm just saying 10 years is quite the micro cycle over 10,000 years.
I just look at the data from even the UN's intergovernmental panel on climate change, not exactly your conservative think tank over there.
They released a report, I think it was from 2022 that said, that debunked what a lot of these climate alarmists were saying about tornadoes and hurricanes and floods and said, no, these natural disasters aren't occurring with greater severity or more frequency.
That's just a talking point.
We suffer greater damage because our infrastructure is built up so much more and people stand to lose so much more.
And maybe that's something we need to address when we're building up in certain areas of the country or certain areas of the world.
But I'm just a little confused by the narrative that we hear from politicians or this fear-mongering that is causing Gen Z to suffer.
Like one in five Gen Zero suffers insomnia over fear of climate disaster.
I'm confused about why we are telling Gen Z that we are going to die based on climate alarmism when even the most leftist organizations like NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association, or the UN are saying actually what these climate alarmists are claiming about natural disasters isn't true.
But Liz, doesn't this come down to two things?
It's number one: is there alarmism and activism and fake news going on about this issue?
Yes.
But is it an issue?
I also say yes.
So it's not like it's right or wrong or it's a binary choice where it's do nothing, nothing to see here, don't do anything versus stop everything you're doing.
This is the number one issue.
We're all going to die.
There has to be some nuance here.
Even Tom, who's a professional fact-checker, said there's cycles, but you also said to some extent man-made.
To how much extent do you think?
No, I said, if you're going to argue with me about CO2, I'll say, okay, anytime we pollute lakes and air less, that's good.
Yeah.
Right?
But I'm not saying it's that it's correlated.
And what's very, very interesting, she brought up about NOAA.
Noah got caught with their pants down 11 years ago on modifying the data.
Number one, Kofi Annan got caught with his pants down saying, well, this is really about economic redistribution.
That the climate change argument at the UN level is about economic redistribution from the rich countries to the poor countries.
So when I see those two things, you know, science for me kind of takes a shot and I say, you know, I know what I see in the weather.
I know what I see around.
And we have greater, by the way, it is true that the natural disasters were not happening with increasing frequency, but our awareness of the natural disasters and instant news cycles on Twitter have made us wildly available.
Totally agree with that.
Paul McCartney, Paul McCartney went out and did, and you can go look this up, Rob, did the concert for Bangladesh because of these typhoons that would come in annually and basically create incredible suffering for these poor people, just masses of humanity, third world country with a lot of infrastructure.
And by the way, you have people like me that were going to college going, I didn't even know about this.
Why didn't we know about it?
Why didn't we know about farm aid?
Because in these time of media, it was brought more to our attention.
And so now we go back and look at it and say, you know, some of these natural disasters have been happening just like that, natural disasters, and they're more prevalent in the front of your face now than they were previously.
And so, and then you have NOAA people caught with their pants down.
That kind of takes credibility away from me.
I'm like, oh, so we're going to use climate change as this bludgeon for economic redistribution.
And speaking of government and them having their way with it, you guys have all heard of weather modification, right?
It's the act of intentionally manipulating or altering weather.
The most common is called cloud seeding, which increases rain or snow, usually for the purpose of increasing the local water supply, which in my dude, if you can control the weather, who knows what the hell they do?
Because and then this says, you could damage, use it for damaging weather against the enemy as a tactic of military or economic warfare, like Operation Popeye, where clouds were seeded to prolong the monsoon in Vietnam.
So I don't know, bro, if the government can control weather and do what they want and they want to push an agenda of climate change and it starts pouring raining on New York, I've never seen that, Pat.
I'm from New York.
Never, ever since I've been, I've seen it that, that bad.
And infrastructure, this administration ran on infrastructure.
How bad is it lacking?
Where the streets of New York, just on a downfall like that, shut down the whole city.
I have a question for you, Adam.
So one of the things that I think is interesting, and I like having these conversations with good faith people, even when we don't necessarily come at it from the same perspective, but one of the ways that I differentiate between science and ideology is whether there's demonstrable proof that substantiates a claim, right?
Versus just presenting an unfalsifiable claim.
Because an unfalsifiable claim, you could argue that a lot of faith is based on something that can't be proved.
You can't necessarily scientifically prove that God exists, but the basis of science is that you can prove something over and over and over again.
So one of the things that I often notice with people talking about the human impact, and we'll even put the climate alarmists aside for a second, but people that talk about the human impact on weather, like CO2 and what it's done to our climate, what is, how do you, how do you know?
Like, what is your proof?
Because you're making a pretty, what seems to me like an unfalsifiable claim.
You're saying to me, well, our temperatures have increased by a fraction of a percent.
And over here, we also have flooding.
Therefore, I'm going to assume that they are not only correlated, but directly correlated.
What is the proof of that?
There is none.
You bring up a valid point.
And here's what you talk about, arguing in good faith.
Like in any negotiation or any conversation, let's start with what we agree upon, right?
Do we want to live on Earth?
Yes.
Do we love our planet?
Yes.
Am I trying to move to Mars?
No, despite my invitation from Elon Musk.
Do we want the temperature to rise to a point where we can't survive?
Hell no.
So if we have some basis of agreement, because I think things get so politicized, you love the earth.
I hate the earth.
You hate the earth.
It's like, no, that's not what it is.
I just want to know what the proof is because you'd think if human behavior, especially like fossil fuels and CO2, were a direct cause of even the increase in temperature that led to an increase in severity and frequency of storms, then you would see that data.
And yet the data shows that there is not an increase in frequency and severity.
So it seems to me that that undercuts the claim.
And I'm just wondering what substantiates that claim.
Otherwise, it's just ideology, right?
PBD is all about debates and discourse.
The conversation you had a week ago with the Muslims and the Christians was fantastic.
I know you said you want to do more of those.
What have you done or what are your thoughts on having this type of debate?
I know we've had climate people on, but have you had this debate?
She's asking you a very good question, by the way, just so you know.
And I think she's waiting for an answer.
But I will say this to you.
What I'll say to you is, you know, we've always, Rob and I, will invite people to debate people from the other side who say, no, it's not as catastrophic as you make it out to be.
The people that are fully convinced climate change is real don't want to do the debate.
Don't know why.
The same experience I had during COVID.
The people that said, why don't we look at other options for, you know, COVID?
Why don't we question why there's certain challenges with the vaccine?
The people that said, no, you got to take the vaccine no matter what, never wanted to debate the other people that were doing research.
Again, I don't know why.
What I've learned, the same reason why I brought up Newsom the other day, I said, look, I respect the fact that Newsom's willing to go and sit down with Hennedy.
And, you know, you got some people on the right that are not willing to go sit down with anybody else on the left, or Obama never came and sat down with anybody on the right.
I respect anybody that's willing to do the debate.
You got to respect that.
But on the climate change side, this side doesn't like to debate with the other side.
I don't know why.
Anyways, let's move on to the next topic.
I'd like to go through six more topics here.
We only have an hour left.
Okay.
So next, LeBron James' wife and two associates named in federal PED investigation story that just recently came out.
And it's got a lot of people saying, is LeBron doing GH, his young growth hormone?
Is this the Lance Armstrong story that's about to come out and they're going to strip him of all these different accolades that he has?
So let's read it.
LeBron James' close associate, Ernest Mims, business manager and David Alexander trainer, have been named an unredacted federal document related to the biogenesis scandal.
However, there is no accusation or evidence of LeBron James using performance enhancement drugs in the reports.
The biogenesis scandal previously implicated major league baseball players like Ryan Braun and Nelson Cruz, leading to suspensions for 21 players.
Ernest Mims was cited for buying controlled substances for personal use, while David Alexander was listed as a Miami-based personal trainer for LeBron James' wife.
LeBron James and other athletes were not directly named in the case and James' representative stated that he had no prior knowledge of his name being referenced in biogenesis investigation.
Now, Rob, can you pull up a picture with LeBron James?
Let me read that to you.
If you found that, let me just read that.
A representative for James told ESPN that Los Angeles had no knowledge.
He, his wife, or his associate were even referenced in a biogenesis investigation until approached by the media organization last year.
ESPN's request to interview James and Mims were declined after they provided James's camp with applicable information to back up their questioning.
It's clear ESPN's reporting on the subject took over years worth of research.
And while this is first needle-moving action, first needle-moving action involving the biogenesis case in several years, it's surely not going to be the last.
Can you find a picture?
Just Google, is LeBron James taking PED with his body?
Tom, I'm going to go to you first because there's a story of this that came out with Peyton Manning.
We had his neck accident.
What are your thoughts on the story here with LeBron James and Peyton Manning?
Well, look, I mean, there's smoking guns here, but there is a huge economic interest of the NBA not to have not to have your number one star have an issue like this.
They saw what happened with A-Rod Manny Ramirez and how baseball, baseball took such black eyes.
So there's a lot of economic interest in the NBA not to have this happen.
But the other side of it, there appears to be a playbook here because when Peyton Manning hurt his neck, supposedly he was receiving certain substances that came to his wife.
And I don't recall seeing Ashley kind of beef up for the bench pressing Honda Civics.
And he had a need, a very big medical need, because they were trying to heal the fuse of the vertebrae on his neck, and he was having trouble doing that.
And there was certain muscle deterioration that happened as a result of the surgery.
And people said, well, if an average individual was using these things, I would be actually prescribing them.
Unfortunately, he's an individual who is making a living where they have a book that says you can't use these things.
So I think Dead Spin have it right.
You know, they call them WAGS, wives and girlfriends.
They've changed it this morning.
They're now PAGs.
And it's pharmacist girlfriends.
So it's a completely different category now.
Your wife is actually, you know, not just supporting your career, she's supporting your career.
Okay, so let me ask you a question.
You think actually something's going to come out that LeBron's doing PED and he's going to get caught and the story is going to get public?
You think they're going to take it to that level like they did with Lance Armstrong?
Because, you know, they fully ganged up on Lance to destroy his legacy, right?
And that's more of an individual sport.
It's slightly different.
And one would say how much money and sponsorship is in cycling, although he probably brought a lot of attention to cycling, being the greatest cyclist of all time.
Everybody was talking about it.
And this, this is a behemoth of a league franchise.
He's a face.
This would be a black guy for the NBA, for his legacy, for being the greatest, for being all that.
I have a completely different argument for this on what I think when I think about, you know, by the way, did you find a picture of the guy?
If you find a picture with LeBron on the picture, Pat, I'll answer your question.
Yes, I think this is a smoking gun, but I think there's so much at stake for the NBA that they got to put the smoke out.
Well, zoom in on that.
Zoom in on that picture right there.
That's what Marcellus Wiley.
Okay.
Look.
I mean, let's just start with the basics.
LeBron is an absolute specimen of a human being.
He is an absolute beast, even in high school.
Yeah, he was a guy who massive.
So if there's somebody that may not need to take steroids, it might be arguably the greatest physical athlete of all time.
Now, do we know if he's actually doing or doing not?
We know that he takes very good care of his body.
Ironically, you know, he played for the Heat.
David Alexander, who is the trainer here, I've known him for years.
He married a girl I went to high school with, Natasha.
So I know these people.
They're around.
They're not random people and random basements selling drugs.
He's a very famous Miami fitness trainer.
He's not some low-key weird dude.
So is Randy Mipps.
I don't know why they called him Ernest Mipps, but he goes by Randy.
I've seen him a million times in Miami.
That's his business manager.
Now, if he is doing something, it'd be pretty damn sloppy to put it in your wife's name.
You've got literally so many people in your inner circle you're going to do this with.
But David Alexander has trained LeBron.
He's trained Dwayne Wade.
He's trained Chris Paul.
He's a G. I'm not saying that there's no there.
I'm just saying this isn't the first time we've heard this conversation about LeBron.
But at the end of the day, steroids are no steroids.
He's still better than you.
And he's still better than anybody in the air.
But he's getting older.
But he's getting older.
And to stay on the top, Adam, if there's little cheating that you don't see, the stuff that Tom was talking about, like we don't know.
But I mean, to stay on top of your game and going up, what you said, like the amount of money sponsors and China has involved different things.
Can I say one thing?
Yeah, I'll turn it over to you.
In basketball, okay, I played basketball.
Being big and strong and bulky is not great for athleticism.
You want to kind of be long and lean and in shape and have a little bit of muscle.
Yeah, but that's not what it comes to.
Neither was Lance Armstrong.
You're not doing it to be a bodybuilder.
It's all because of speedy recovery.
Okay.
That's what it's for.
Lance Armstrong.
Can you put Lance Armstrong's body when he was cycling?
It's not about it's got nothing to do with.
It's about the fact that he's 39 years old, playing at the level that he's playing.
How many games in the season, Pap?
He plays about 70 to 75.
That's a lot of people.
He's not an 82 guy.
Yeah.
No, I'm just saying that.
He doesn't play 82.
Where I was going with it, because when I think of steroids, I think of everything that we've discussed in the bodybuilding world.
That's not steroids.
Okay, so literally, I've never met myself.
No, no, no.
For example, like, you know how Joe Rogan says, hey, Rock, why don't you just come out and say you're on steroids, right?
You're taking stuff.
It's like a little bit like, what are you doing?
Yeah, it's obvious.
The people that have taken, they're like, no, you're on something.
It's very obvious.
It's cool.
It's okay.
Here's my position with it.
Okay.
You know how back in the days it was kind of like such and such smokes weed.
Oh my God, he's a smoker.
He smokes weed.
And now it's like, what?
Such and such smokes week.
Okay.
What do you want me to do, bro?
Like, you have a life.
He smokes weed.
Okay.
They need to get over this fact that these guys are doing, like, they need to legalize it already in sports.
Stop it.
Like, absolutely stop it.
What do you mean, legalize it?
You're saying that, yes, they need to legalize, you know, guys that are playing sports, that are, you know, putting their bodies through being hit, running, nonstop.
Yes, they need to take certain things that others are not going to take.
Like a formula race car driver that's going 220 miles an hour.
What do you think they're on to be able to handle that two and a half hours of whatever they're doing?
Their body's a different body.
They're drinking Vault for short.
Exactly.
Adderall.
No, but they take Adderall.
They take Adderall.
Okay.
So for me, yeah, do I think LeBron's on things?
Yes.
Why?
Everybody that's ever been close to LeBron has said how shitty of a diet he has.
He eats cookies.
He eats everything.
You know, when people eat everything shitty and they still look good, there's a reason for it.
You can't get away with eating shitty things.
You could get away with it in your early 20s.
You can't get away with it in your 30s, 35, 38, 39.
Body changes a little bit.
Oh, hey, LeBron, let me tell you, he's always eating cookies.
He's always eating ice cream.
He's always eating this.
And you look like that.
You know, fine.
There's a part that you say genetics.
The other part of it is maybe something you're taking with your body.
All I'm saying is I don't have a problem with athletes taking it.
I don't have a problem with it.
They're athletes.
They're playing a different game.
They're taking a different risk.
Race car drivers put different kind of fuel in their cars.
You don't put that in your car.
I drive a 93 octane, whatever I put in my car.
You put an 89 or an 87.
Oh my God, did you know Formula Mon, what kind of octane do they use in F1 or NASCAR?
Exotic.
They're like 115.
Oh my God, they're cheating.
They have to put 115 octane in those cars.
They're risking their lives driving.
You're worried about this guy putting steroids on his body.
You should be worried about other things.
Most of these guys, after they're done playing, you see how they walk when they're 60 years old?
They walk a certain way with their legs and their knees.
Trust me, they're going to be having a lot of issues later on.
So I don't have a problem it being across the board that you're doing it.
Just like they're trying to make weed legal and certain things.
I don't see it being an issue.
But if it does come out today and you're using it while it's illegal, guess what?
You broke the rules.
You broke the law.
But later on, they need to kind of transition into making it legal forever.
Have a league that's just all like steroid, whatever.
But it already is, anyways.
It's not like you have a league.
By the way.
What percent of NBA players do you think right now are taking illegal substances?
Like enhanced.
80% smoke weed.
80% smoke weed.
Are you saying weed or are you saying PED, like things that— Anything, any substance that they're not supposed to do.
Well, weed.
Would you consider weed being one of them or no?
Marijuana is definitely up there.
They're definitely smoking weed.
I don't think you're putting weed.
No, not for performance.
Okay, so you're purely talking performance-enhanced control.
What percentage of NBA players?
I would say 20%.
I was going to say 35, maybe 30, 35.
That's sold.
That's the raid.
NFL.
NFL for NFL.
What?
70%?
80%.
I was going to say.
But by the way, guess what?
Do you see what they're doing?
Like, how fast are the health?
Oh, yeah.
You know how easy the average person, they tackle you helmet to helmet, you're dead.
Yeah.
Yeah, it should be mandatory PED to be in the NFL.
Isn't that an argument against maybe not doing steroids in the NFL?
I mean, these guys are what they do to their bodies.
Yeah, but recovery.
I mean, they need, but he made a great point.
Listen, to play in an NFL game and the recovery in one week, think about it.
In one week after you're having these giants hit you, I think it should be a no-brainer.
They need the stuff to recover.
We've seen a case study on this.
You saw a little case study on this, and it's called Major League Baseball.
Pat and I followed it.
Major League Baseball had an era where their testing equipment was so bad and their testing frequency was so bad.
And your ability to travel every six days from place to place and to avoid testing was so good that you had literally baseball was powered by steroids.
We all knew it was.
It was the era of Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire and Kevin Brown the pitcher and there were pitchers using it.
Why did pitchers use it?
They used it for one reason, recovery.
Lance Armstrong, he was focused on EPO, EPO, and recovery.
EPO?
Oxygen transfer.
Every other cyclist was using it.
100%.
But they weren't big enough that, you know, even with the same thing that he was using, they couldn't beat him.
Yeah.
But he lost his legacy with the whole thing.
Every time people see him right now, they no longer say you're not going to be able to do it.
You're the steroid guy.
Correct.
Remember the Lip Strong, the yellow wristband?
He's a Jews of Patrick.
I'm just making your point that if it's so prevalent, make it legal.
I don't know whether I agree with that or not.
You guys probably have more opinions on sports than I do, but I don't think that the viewership of these professional leagues would accept it as easily, obviously, as the players and trainers.
Because one of the fun parts of watching sports is watching human beings who are so much better than we are playing this athletic competition.
And it just feels like cheating.
It feels like, oh, are you actually doing that?
Or are you only doing that because you have access to certain types of drugs that make you do it?
You bring up a great point.
I don't know if people would accept that because think about how disappointed and devastated.
It wasn't just a media hit job against Lance Armstrong.
People were kind of disappointed because when you are a fan of sports, these players are your idols.
You're like, if only you could live up to this.
Kids want to be them.
And then it's like, well, are you even real?
It becomes like.
You bring up a great point because it's all optics.
Like, for instance, I was like, oh, it makes you bigger and stronger and you're a musclehead steroids.
It's like, no, it's actually somewhat used for recovery.
All right.
I generally didn't know that because I'm not actively playing any major sports.
So if the fail, because if I don't know that, think about the common fan.
They're just like, he's on steroids.
Oh, my God.
It's like, no, it's actually I sprained my ankle and I want to recover sooner.
So there's a part to what you're saying that is so valid because what is the fan going to think?
How is this going to taint it?
Use the baseball analogy.
We all remember what happened with Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire.
I think it's an absolute shame that arguably the greatest bass player of all time, not named Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, is not in the Hall of Fame because he used steroids.
But everyone in the league was using steroids at that time.
We all know that the, I think it was under the Bush administration, they were having court hearings, week-long, month-long, year-long investigations into steroids during the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's like, get your priority straight.
And Raphael Pomero went in there and he.
Yeah.
Would you guys be disappointed if you found out that Michael Jordan had a bionic leg?
Like, would that disappoint you?
There's nothing that's going to disappoint me about Michael Jordan.
Did you see air legs?
Like, it's something that it's not.
It's metal graphite that it wasn't.
He's not 100% human, basically.
Yeah, would you be disappointed if you found out that like, oh, he just jumped so high and jumped so much is because he wasn't fully like.
There's a couple different things here.
I feel like that's how people would view it.
No, I don't know about that because to me, how many people in the world have a six-pack?
How many people in America have a six-pack?
Can you Google that Robert Williams?
Google what percentage of Americans have a six-pack.
Can you do that?
I'm actually really curious.
You'll see what point I'm making here right now.
What percentage of Americans have a six-pack?
I'm going with 2%.
No way.
I wonder if they have this statistic.
Let's go API.
They should have it.
So there it is.
What is it?
Number of Americans with six-packs.
One in 25,000.
Okay.
I don't know if it's that high, but go see if there's another study on that.
What percentage?
Is it easier to be a millionaire or a six-pack?
There's an article that says it's easier to be a millionaire than to have a six-pack.
Okay.
But here's the point.
Okay.
Can anybody have a six-pack?
Yes.
Yeah.
Of course, can anybody have a six-pack?
So we don't look at these athletes and say they're doing things that we can't do.
No, no.
They're doing things that we don't want to do.
Okay.
So that's one thing we respect them for because they're more disciplined to take care of their health.
I respect the fact that LeBron is playing at 38, 39 years old with his body.
There's a lot of guys that let their bodies go.
Carmelo Anthony could have taken care of his body.
They came at the same time, but Carmelo Anthony wasn't as disciplined with his body.
You know, there was Antoine Walker, who was at one point an all-star doing great things.
I sat down and talked to the guy.
When we sat down and talked to him, I'm like, Antoine, how did you become 400 pounds?
He was 400 pounds when I sat him at a cigar lounge in Chicago because it's hard to take care of your health.
So there's an element that we automatically think that these guys have God-given abilities and that's the only reason why they do what they do.
It requires a lot more than just that.
Yes, some people have it.
But for example, you know, Michael Jordan versus Vince Carter.
Vince Carr is a better dunker than Michael Jordan.
How come Michael Jordan ended up becoming a, you know, who he became and Vince Carter didn't?
This is not easy.
It's way more than just the physical side.
It's the mental side.
It's the discipline to go to the gym.
That is why we respect them.
I don't think we respect them to say, well, that guy's taking stuff and I'm not.
I think that's a different element.
But for me, the average person also, the same way the average person doesn't understand what an entrepreneur goes through when they start a company and then they want to demonize the founder that started a company or the capitalist.
Like, yeah, look at him.
He's got all this money.
He goes to the nice restaurants, lives in the house.
Yeah, bro.
Did you work 100 hours a week for 20 years now?
Why don't you go do it?
Because you can do it too.
You can work 100 hours a week.
You can go out there and read books instead of watching every damn Netflix show.
The last time I watched, the only series I've ever watched on my TV on Netflix is House of Cards.
And I've watched Lasso because Greg Scher told me Lasso reminds him of you.
So I had to watch Ted Lasso a couple episodes to see it.
But yes, I think it's very, I think the audience is not going to change.
I think for me, it's purely recovery.
And we have to understand that these guys' lives is a different lives than the one we're living.
Not saying they don't have a great life.
They have a great life, but it's very hard to do what they do.
And, Pat, and you made a great point about Lance and how all these other guys were taking the same type of procedure that Lance was.
But you know what, people quickly forgot that his Live Strong, that bracelet cancer thing, he raised over $500 million for cancer research treatment and support, put $6.5 million of his own money.
And it's just funny how he gets caught and they vilify him.
And they're like, the hell with him.
He saved millions of money.
That's what he does today.
He's a podcaster.
He's a podcaster.
You know, they made him step down.
He resigned from after the allegations.
Yeah, but nobody cares about the 500 million over 500 million.
Why don't we talk about something important like sending a birdcage to a friend as a gift?
Let's talk about something like that.
So Nikki Haley says Trump campaign sent her birdcage after he called her bird brain.
He's bird crazy.
Okay, dude.
Bird brain.
So, you know, let's see what Liz has got to say about this one here.
Liz, I'm really curious to hear your take on this one.
Okay, so a former comedian and President Donald Trump.
No, that's not the headline.
But Nikki Haley draws insults from Trump in sign.
She is gaining ground in a Republican presidential race.
Former President Trump launched the entire thing calling about, you know, bird brain and declaring MAGA or I will never go bird brain Nikki Haley.
Nikki Haley gained recognition for impressive performance in a recent Republican debate, earning praise for her rhetorical prowess.
A post-debate poll conducted by 538 shows that 62% of respondents rated her performance positively, signaling a notable boost in her standing with GOP race.
So one, what do you think about the gift President Trump sent her?
And then two, do you really think that she's becoming more and more formidable?
It's just a season here.
What are your thoughts?
Well, I don't doubt she put a picture up on social media of the bird cage and the bird seed.
I don't doubt that she, yeah, there it is.
I don't doubt that she received that at her door.
I'm a little skeptical that it came from the Trump campaign.
I think someone who did it just for a gag and signed the Trump campaign because they knew that it would get the attention that it gets, I'm not sure that that's funny enough that the Trump campaign would actually do it.
He's never done anything like that.
Nikki, he's not worried about Nikki Haley.
He's not worried, but you know what I, well, hold on.
I wish I was there if it is true.
If he was like, you know what?
Said to the bird food too.
But you know what?
I saw that, Pat.
I thought, if it is true, hands down, what a gamer.
He doesn't give a damn if you're male, female, young, old, cute, ugly.
If it's a competition, if that's true, he doesn't give two shits.
He's going after your ass.
And if that is him, that is one of the funniest things, Pat, because I know he's trying to like, that's like trying to go after like her brain.
That guy's hilarious, bro.
He's a comedian.
I mean, it's funny.
I just, I don't know.
I am very skeptical that it came from the Trump campaign.
I think it came from.
She makes a great point, by the way.
You never know.
Can you confirm this?
Because I don't see anywhere that Trump's camp confirmed sending the bird case.
Somewhat of a top.
You heard what he said after Chris Christie.
You saw the Chris Christie Donald Duck, like cringiest insult.
And Trump's response to that was hilarious.
He said, anybody who comes up with an insult like that isn't fit to be president.
It goes right back at it.
Well, you know, beyond all the merriment here, beyond all the merriment, and there's a couple of charts you have here.
There's very, very interesting stuff.
So national polls and national headlines right now, they don't matter.
Here's what matters.
What are the people of Iowa and New Hampshire really thinking, and are those polls moving?
Because that's where the spring points are going to be.
Right now, the national polls, yeah, they illustrate a little bit.
But the national polls are not what's there.
Take me to New Hampshire.
That's Iowa.
Let's go to New Hampshire.
Take a look at that little red line in the lower right corner.
She's like DeSantis is green.
He's not afraid of Nikki Haley.
Who's in red right there?
Is that Nikki?
So basically, I look at it this like this.
What if all this legal stuff does take Donald Trump out of the campaign?
I don't think it will.
But if it does, there is a second game that's being played down there.
You see what that is?
And that is called Win the New Hampshire primary, and you're going to win more support.
Now, let's go to Iowa.
Look at Nikki Haley.
Boy, what a shot there.
Now, in Iowa, look who's number three.
Nikki Haley.
Now she's 8.8.
Clearly above Ramaswani now.
So what is happening is in the polls that matter is where we're going to be voting in these.
And it's not a fair game.
Iowa and New Hampshire are going to be springboards of contributions and support and everything.
But I look at it and Nikki Haley is running a really good campaign.
And she is now honestly number two in these states and gaining momentum bit by bit, including these headlines that may or may not be clear about birds.
I still think he did it, Tom.
You know why I think he did it?
Because there's a clip of him speaking a couple of days ago, Pat, where I think Rob has it.
I don't know if you saw this, Liz, where he's talking about how they're trying to be environmentally safe.
And he said while he was president, somebody came to him from the DOD and they were like, sir, we have a new fighter jet that we want.
It's environmentally friendly.
And he goes, who gives a damn if it's dropping bombs and shooting people?
Who gives a damn?
Rob, do you have that?
So that's why it's supposed to scream.
He's hilarious.
Listen to that.
I think there's music, though.
Is there music?
Oh, damn it.
But it is hilarious.
If you haven't seen that clip, that's why he's a comedian.
He's wrong.
Yeah, he's 100% telling the truth.
So I was like, with that type of humor, I wouldn't see him.
I wouldn't put it past him that he sent this.
Here's all I'm saying.
I want to know who actually said that.
We're making jets that are environmentally friendly.
Well, they want to make suggested making one that is environmentally friendly.
What part of war is environmentally friendly?
Tell me.
That's the irony of it.
But Pat, you know, the Department of the DOD is probably for sure going, listen, some woke guy, like, let's make a jet that, you know, and he's like, are you, we're dropping bombs on these people?
Who gives a shit about the environment?
Hey, Gino, we're going to kill your brother.
But you know what?
We got him a life insurance policy.
I wouldn't put this past the DOD, though.
I would argue that blowing people up is a form of recycling.
But back to back to Nikki Haley.
We were at the RNC debates, I don't know, four days ago, a week ago, whenever that was, in Simi Valley, California.
I thought she performed very well.
I thought she was the winner of the debate.
I thought I had her first.
DeSantis was kind of up there.
You saw that in a national poll.
I know that we're not crediting national polls, that she's actually the one person in the race who would significantly beat Biden.
Not Trump, not DeSantis, Nikki Haley.
So what we do know is he actually did call her bird brain.
That's not like Nikki.
Yeah, he did.
He tweeted it.
And, you know, if we trust modern journalism today, journalist Mark Caputo confirmed the birdcage was sent by the Trump campaign.
But to me, that's irrelevant.
Whether he sent it or didn't send it, to me, is the fact that he said it.
We all know that his jokes and his slurs.
You have the clip?
You have the clip with no music?
Hold on, Ben.
Oh, my bad.
The deeper thing here, and I have mixed feelings on Trump, but I've slowly coming around to at least understanding where he's at.
Because I do think there is a two things can be true at once.
I do think the media, the deep state, the Matrix, there is an agenda to bring this man down.
I don't think that's deniable at this point.
And at first, it was Russia, Russia, Russia.
Well, it turns out, it's actually some fake news going on.
Yeah, some.
But at the same time, he could also be sort of a reckless, wrecking ball, narcissistic, as many people call him, man-child.
Two things can be true at once.
Okay?
Just because you're this way doesn't mean that the media or the deep state should attack you.
So I understand why he has vengeance and he's vindictive and he's essentially seeking retribution for whatever wrongdoing he sees, but more importantly, the wrongdoing that he's fighting for in the Republican base.
Totally understand that.
My question is this.
So I don't know if you saw what his former chief of staff, his longest standing chief of staff, General John Kelly, came out with this weekend.
A scathing rebuke.
My question is this.
Nikki Haley, bird brain, he selected her to be the ambassador of the UN.
Why would you select a bird brain to represent your country?
You selected Mike Pence to be your vice president.
Why would you select someone that is disloyal and doesn't have your back to be your BP?
He selected Bill Burr.
He selected Mike Pompeo.
He selected Chris Christie to be the person that would train him.
He selected Scaramucci to be.
My only question, this isn't a statement.
My only question is why are all the closest people that he selected now his biggest detractors?
And that's something that he needs to address, my opinion.
Well, I mean, he can't.
Go ahead, Liz.
I actually agree with that.
I think that Trump was a very good president for three years.
I don't think he handled COVID very well in his fourth year.
But I think one of his shortcomings was how he always ended contentiously with various staff members.
I don't think that that's a very positive commentary on him.
I will say I thought Nikki Haley was a fantastic ambassador to the UN.
She did a really, really good job there.
I don't think that the Republican electorate is going to like her, regardless of whether Trump is running or not, because the vast majority of the Republican electorate right now is against the war in Ukraine and against sending more U.S. money to Ukraine.
And Nikki Haley never met a war she didn't like.
She's kind of this generation's neocon.
And I don't think that that's a good match.
And she's very outspoken about it too.
So I think that there's a pretty big mismatch.
I think she'd have a hard time, even if Trump were out of the picture, which I don't think he will be.
But I think she'd have a hard time winning support from Republicans who, especially the Republicans who understand that sending so much, so many U.S. dollars to Ukraine is devaluing our dollar, which is increasing inflation, which is going to cause the rest of the world to discard the U.S. dollar, which is going to lose us our economic power in the world, which is really our biggest strength.
I mean, there's an existential threat to our country that's happening in Ukraine.
And it's not just the actual battles that are being fought there.
It's the policy.
And she's in support of it.
Yeah.
Liz, I don't disagree with the quant that you just made there.
That's a very good quant.
But when you look at it, the voters are going to go with the choices they have.
And it's all the choices that are on the ballot.
And she's on the ballot versus these other choices.
And that's the plate of fruit to pick from.
And so you look at it right now.
She's shining and she's showing demonstrable.
And by the way, I'm not voting yet, so I'm not lobbying here.
I'm saying objectively, polls are showing in key states and on national reaction polls that Adam was talking about that she is reflecting well against the other alternatives.
And I think what you may be saying, what you may be saying differently, or what may be behind your point, which I would support, is that the truth of what America really feels on a broad scale, there's not really the choice that they would overwhelmingly go for based on their absolute proven and defined views.
Can I ask you a question?
No, that's not.
Can I ask Vinny a question?
A story.
A question.
You can tell great stories.
It's purely out of genuine curiosity.
I love the exchange you had with Steve Schmidt last week.
Shout out to you.
That clip went viral.
You did your thing.
You know, part of what gave you credence and credibility was like, look, I served in the freaking military.
I was there.
I wore the uniform.
I was in the Air Force.
You know, then there's this whole conversation about Trump versus the generals, right?
Whether it's General Milley, General Kelly, who was his first general that Matt Sapolla interviewed, Mattis, Mad Dog Mattis.
A lot of these guys are finding issue with Trump.
So I'm just going to read the words.
I want to get your thoughts.
This is Kelly, General Kelly, his chief of staff.
Yeah.
Basically saying, my issue with him was that he thought that all wounded soldiers were suckers.
He did not want to be seen in any sort of parade with them.
He didn't want them around.
And this is a general saying, this is hearsay.
This is.
Is there proof that is, because again, Adam, I always want proof.
I always want proof.
He said it.
Wait, wait.
I want to see or hear where he actually said it.
That's where I'm going to go to.
Okay.
Because I know where you're going.
We know what he said about McCain being captured.
Do you want the proof?
We can roll the tape.
No, I heard that.
Yeah, he's not.
By the way, he's not Jesus Christ, Adam.
This guy's not Jesus Christ.
What's your question, Adam?
What's the question?
I'm just asking as a former military member.
If these are true, does this not give you some sort of pause?
If it is true, of course, it would bother somebody, mind you.
What he said about McCain, not the coolest thing.
When blows come to blow, bro, this guy, like I said, gamer and doesn't like anybody betraying or anybody talking shit.
And going back to your initial point when you talked about who was it, Pompeo, who was all his Bill Barr, all these people.
What other choices did Trump have?
He's coming in.
He wanted to run independent, couldn't, had to become Republican.
Now, once you're in, you didn't even really think that you were going to win.
Now you're in.
Does he really have a choice, Liz, on who he picks as all these people?
Meaning he doesn't, they were telling him, Mike Pence is probably going to be your best choice.
This person, the generals, you don't have no choice.
They're already appointed.
All these other people in his circle, Adam, he had to have them.
And then guess what?
Gradually throughout time, you know, people's true colors show.
Nikki Haley, maybe, yeah, he liked her at the beginning, but then she turns on him and his attitude changes.
I'll say something here to move on.
What do you mean?
What don't you?
Guys, we got 27 minutes.
I got Max 7 call.
I can't go over it today.
Today's Tuesday.
So a couple of things I will say.
One, I don't know if I would say bird brain after this podcast, after this debate.
Why?
Complete different reason.
When you're choosing VP, you need the other people to think that she could be a possible candidate to be a VP.
As a president, you have to be unpredictable when it comes down to your VP.
Why are you already undermining her?
It automatically tells everybody that's not the VP.
Why are you doing that?
Strategically, it doesn't make any sense.
There's no reason to say something like this with bird brain.
Just leave it alone.
Okay.
To make a comment like that.
I think for me, it's more coming from the strategy standpoint.
You're giving too much up by every time somebody's doing good on the GOP debate.
You know what he is saying to everybody?
What he's saying to everybody is the fact that his VP is not on that stage.
That's what he's saying.
So the VP is not.
So is it going to be Christie?
Is that who you're going to go after?
And maybe you're not going to take Pence because it's like you lost Indiana anyway.
So what was the purpose of getting Pence?
Maybe you got the Christian voter, but you lost Indiana.
So if you get Christie's like, oh, you're trying to win Dakota?
Well, no, it doesn't matter anyway.
So he's giving too much of his hand, which is not of him when it comes down to this.
That's the only thing I would say.
Second thing is, you said something very offensive on who he fired.
You said he fired Bill Burr.
He never fired Bill Trump.
Bill Barr.
I want to make sure we clarify that's very offensive when you go after a comedian like that.
I love the guy.
It was Bill Barr.
You're right.
He fired.
English language.
He would never be fired under Trump.
It just wouldn't happen.
I could see Bill Burr and the comedian Don Rickles, aka Donald Trump going on tour together.
So anyways, let's go to the next one.
Liz, you went after Tristan Tate August 8th, a month ago, two months ago, you said the following.
Liz Wheeler claims Tristan Tate teaching young men how to deceive women and take their virginity.
A conservative political commentator, this girl named Liz Wheeler, Liz, I think you would like this lady, and podcast host recently criticized Tristan Tate, brother of Andrew Tate, allegedly promoting deceptive tactics towards women.
Wheeler shared a video where Tate discussed dating and said, Tristan Tate teaches young men how to lie to innocent women to take their virginity.
I'll do two or three virgins per year.
I'll teach you how Jordan Peterson even responded and supported you, saying for advocating family values and discipline, join the criticism by sharing Wheeler's tweet and warning about the potential consequences of weak men.
Influenced by Tate's advice, Peterson wrote, If you think strong men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of.
Sincerely, someone a while ago.
If you want to play the clip, I don't know if you have the video or not, or is it just a tweet?
No, I put the video on the tweet.
Okay, so go back to that tweet and see if it goes, go click on.
There you go.
Yeah, listen to this.
All right, let's watch this and then let's get your take and then we'll give our feedback here.
Like me and meet the women who I meet and roll in the circles I meet, you meet beautiful virgins sometimes.
Me, I'll do two or three virgins a year.
Now, how do you date a virgin when you're a when you're an ice-cold player?
There is a tactic which I'm going to share with you on how to date a virgin and how to take a girl's virginity.
Now, the recipe hasn't changed, but the tactics and the implementation has certainly changed.
Be their boyfriend for three months and be in a nice relationship with them.
That is the recipe.
I'm sorry, guys.
You want to run into a virgin and fuck her the next day?
Don't ask me how.
I don't know.
I don't think anyone knows.
I don't even think it's possible.
You have to be their boyfriend for an extended period of time.
You then have to take her virginity on the second month anniversary or something along those lines.
And I'm going to teach you how to do it while still being.
You can pause it here.
You can pause it here.
So it's a two-minute video.
Commentary, thoughts on this, why you have a problem with this.
Well, I mean, the words that he used make it pretty clear.
He said, I'm going to teach you a strategy.
I'm going to teach you a tactic, how to manipulate a girl into sleeping with her, to deceive her into thinking that she is loved by me in order to exploit her, objectify her, and have sex with her.
That's pretty disgusting, I think, by anybody's standards.
Adam?
I think one more comment I will make.
The reason that I criticize him specifically, or that I've criticized Andrew Tate, is because at one point, Andrew Tate was the most Googled man in the world.
He's incredibly influential among young men.
And the reason, it's very interesting why he's influential because he accurately diagnoses a serious cultural problem in the West.
He accurately notes that masculinity is under assault, that men are told that they're toxic and bad.
And he actually, to his credit, has the courage to say, I'm going to push back against this.
I'm going to tell men to be men.
The problem is that once he accurately diagnoses the problem, his antidote, what he prescribed, is self-destructive.
He doesn't actually teach young men how to be good, strong men.
He instead leads them towards pornography and materialism and exploitation of women in worship of self.
So I think that makes him more dangerous because he does accurately diagnose a problem, but then his prescription for it is to lead young men astray.
So is your biggest issue with Andrew and Tristan that virgin video, or is there a sort of a symptom of a larger problem that you have with them overall?
I mean, that video is an example of the point that I make.
When people say that Andrew and Tristan Tate are good role models for young men, I don't think that's a good role model for young men to learn how to manipulate and lie and deceive women into having sex.
I actually want to address that, but I just actually want to understand your perspective genuinely.
Do you think that the Tate brothers, for men specifically, are a positive net value, positive net role model, or negative?
Negative.
I think they lead young men towards self-destruction.
Okay, so you think that the words that they're saying, not the little clips, but their overall message is bad for men, not good?
Yes, because what are they telling men?
They're telling men, you're attacked, you're a victim.
And that resonates with men because that is a valid grievance, especially in, especially in American culture.
That's why they've become so popular here.
They were popular in Europe and in Britain, but they're so popular here the last couple of years because there is a war on masculinity.
Young men are feminized, and it's a powerful thing when you take a valid grievance and then tell someone that the solution to that grievance is something that actually harms them.
So I actually think they're more self-destructive than some people on the left because they're playing on a valid problem and prescribing something that's harmful to young men.
Just to be clear, what do you think that their prescription is for men?
Pornography, materialism, exploitation of women, and worship of self.
That's what you think their message is to men?
That is what they, you can read all of their stuff list and all their stuff.
I've extensively listened to all of their advice for young men, and they literally say, if you are not extremely wealthy, you are not a real men.
Money is the most valuable thing.
Like, money's great.
We're all trying to make a living here.
We're all trying to make money, but it is not the most valuable thing.
That is a message of materialism.
They've run pornography business.
That's how they got rich.
That's how they got famous.
They pretend to back away from it now just to avoid criticism, but it's really just because they don't need to do that anymore.
They constantly are talking about how to be a top G and how to manipulate women.
I think that's an incredibly destructive message.
Do you think that's positive for young men?
A lot of it I do, and I'll tell you why.
That video.
Do you think that video is?
No, I'll address that video.
But what's interesting is he actually had a nuanced approach.
He said, you need to date them to three months.
How many women are going to date a guy for three months that they are not interested in, that is not there for them, that is not providing for them, that is not protecting from them, that isn't there for them.
You don't just slip in and fall into a virgin.
I totally understand that.
You actually need to date these women.
So at that point, it's the woman's decision.
So my question to you is, how many men...
You don't think that's deceptive?
Like, he's deceiving them.
He doesn't actually care about them.
He's doing things to make them think that he cares about them.
You know what?
Welcome to modern-day dating, baby.
Like, this is what happens out there.
Men do this with women.
Women do this with men.
And you don't think that's destructive?
I think it is what it is.
Whether it's destructive or not, is your opinion.
Do you think it is?
I'm interested in your opinion.
Do you think that that's a harmful dating dynamic?
I don't think that that is my objective to dating.
Going out there and taking virginities.
That's not my thing.
But going out and dating multiple women, I've done that forever.
But do you think it's an honest thing?
I don't want to focus on the virginity.
I want to focus on the bigger message here.
No, you're missing the point, Liz.
What percentage of men are millionaires in the world?
I don't think that's the point.
The point is, what's happening?
I'm asking you a question, Miss Liz Wheeler, because I respect your opinion.
You're beautiful.
You're smart.
You're educated.
What percentage of men are millionaires?
I don't know.
Take a guess.
You're smart.
I have no idea.
I'll Google it.
Fine.
Okay.
Tell me the answer if you want the answer.
I'm a menu.
A couple percent.
Eight percent of men, let's say.
What percentage of men are six foot with six packs?
We just did this earlier.
I mean, I'm not six foot, but okay.
What percentage?
All right.
I don't even know.
While you're Googling this, millions of people.
Millionaire, six foot, abs in shape, actually a man who is good looking, fit, takes care of his person, a man who can provide, protect, be present for his woman.
These, to become the top G, Liz.
What does top G mean?
What does that mean to you?
A fucking top gangster.
Like a top girl.
But what does that mean?
A top, like a top male, a high value.
Alpha male.
That's what you're saying.
What do you love about your husband?
Go ahead.
I love that he is godly.
I love that he is a man of virtue.
I love that he is strong.
I love that he is a man of integrity.
I love that he's a faithful man.
How tall is your husband?
5'10.
He's 5'10.
He probably served in the U.S. Navy.
Worked with the Border Patrol.
So hold on.
He's a medical provider.
I met your husband.
I'd love to.
I'm telling you.
I did.
So let me get this straight.
He's a tall, good-looking, studly man who's done well for himself.
Yes.
Okay.
Don't you think it's incumbent on most men to try to accomplish that?
To be materially successful.
I didn't say that.
To be good-looking, successful, leader, in shape, lead men.
Don't you think that's important for men?
I think the number one most important thing for men to do is to try to be godly.
That's your opinion.
It is.
Okay, that's your opinion.
I'm answering your question, though.
You're asking my opinion if I think those things are important.
I think the most important thing for a man to do is to be godly.
I think to provide and protect yourself.
So why don't you marry a priest?
Why don't you marry a priest?
Priests don't get married.
Okay, well, that's their bad.
But there are some pastors that do get married.
So why don't you marry a pastor?
If that's the same thing.
But the family unit, the marriage is the domestic.
Priests do start getting kids.
They'll start kidding kids.
Takes the pressure off the altar, boys.
I feel like you're trying to see where you're going with this.
Okay, sorry.
I'm not where you're going with this either.
My point is this.
You're lambassing this man for accomplishing what very few men can accomplish.
The fact that he made all this.
Repeat to me what I said.
When you say I lambast him for what he's accomplished, I don't care how much money he has.
What did I say my problem was with you?
Why are you focused on the money?
No, no, what did I say my problem was with Andrew Tate?
You're missing the entire point of my point.
Tell me what your point is.
Why do so many men, so many men, not just impressionable 13-year-olds, men, grown-ass motherfucking men, 40 years old, successful, good values, moral compass, strong leaders, why do those men find him fascinating and resonate with him?
Answer me that.
Yes, I'll do that.
Why do grown-ass men, not teenagers, actually love these guys?
Let me tell you why.
And it's what I said before, because they're all toxic masculinity.
Do you, I mean, you live in the United States of America.
You understand that the most powerful politicians and the most powerful cultural influences, James Cameron, for goodness sake, in Hollywood called testosterone a toxin.
Men are told that if they so much as pursue a woman or ask her on a date, that they are sexually harassing.
Men right now aren't afforded due process of law when they face frivolous allegations of sexual misconduct that could be to the level of criminal conduct.
Do you understand how vulnerable this makes young men?
Yeah, because I'm a man.
I understand what it is.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me finish my thing.
Why men resonate with him?
Because of how powerfully men react to being attacked.
And then you have Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate coming in and saying, I see you, and that attack that's happening against you is wrong.
You don't have to face that.
I'm going to give you the secret to avoiding that and to succeeding anyway when everything from the education system to our legal system to our culture is telling men that they are worthless, that they are bad, that they're inherently rapists.
I mean, it's bad what's happening to men.
They come in and say, I have a solution so that you don't have to live that.
That's more powerful than a drug, Adam.
That's why men find it attractive.
You bring up a good point, but you've never been a man.
So you're arguing with me, a grown-ass man, and amongst other men, what it's like to be a man and what we're feeling.
I can assure you this, my lovely friend, the number one thing that men are not taking from Andrew Tate is the matriarchy's coming against you and you can't go out and talk to women.
It's actually the exact opposite.
It's, oh, you want warm women in your life?
You want more success in your life?
You want better cars, bigger things, bigger dreams, more beautiful women in your life?
Follow these steps.
Not you're a victim.
I understand you.
I'll give you a hug.
Let me show you how what's going on in the living room.
He used one of Andrew Tate's words that he uses to describe the attack on masculinity about an hour ago on this show.
That's how deeply Andrew Tate's message is in your own mind.
I'm observing it.
What's the word?
What's the word?
The matrix.
He's the one that made that word long after the movie become a staple in every young man's vocabulary.
The matrix is after you.
Here's how you avoid the matrix.
How you're successful in spite of the matrix.
I'm not telling you how to feel.
You can feel however you want.
I'm observing how young men react.
Because I said the word.
Let's ask a different question here.
Because I'm still trying to figure out where.
Okay, so Tom, question for you.
That video right there with how to take three virginities per year.
What do you think about it?
As a father of two girls, would you want your daughters to watch that video?
Well, I'll speak as a person who once upon a time wasn't a father of two girls.
I see what they're doing, and they're providing a prescription for basically men that are under attack in modern society.
And I think it's pretty horrifying.
However, what's equally horrifying is there are, you know, this is not one-sided.
There are women that are living in this fallen world who do not have godly foundations, who are playing into it as well.
So this is not a zero game, but it's indicative of a fallen world that lives without foundation, that will be led to the most base of our animal instincts.
And I think they're providing a very intricate plan on how to play and roam and succeed in that construct.
That's the construct of life we have.
And you know what?
It's not my construct.
And it's not a construct that I want my daughters to buy into or be a part of, but it's a construct.
But there's women that are playing into that without godly foundations as well.
And that's the game.
Okay, so let me give my feedback and then we can go to the next story.
Number one, I don't know why he makes that video.
I would never make a video like that to say how many virginities you take per year, et cetera, et cetera.
If you date, you know, and if you have a sister, your dynamics changes in the way you view the world, you know, because you're so protective of your sister.
So in your mind, if you're afraid of God and you have the fear of God, you fear what you do to girls, one day is going to come back and someone's going to do to your sister or they're going to do to your kids.
So that fear of God is a very powerful thing to have.
I had that since I was a kid, so it messed with me a lot because I had an older sister and I'm super protective.
Now, for me, my daughters are going to watch that video.
Smart.
I'm going to have both of my girls watch that video when they get to an age.
And I'm going to say, hey, check this out, girls.
Here's a guy named Tristan.
Okay.
I've spent time with him.
I actually like this guy.
And by the way, if you're also not too careful, you will also like guys like this because they're out there because they're charming, they're sexy, they're attractive, but their outcomes are different outcomes.
So someone is going to try to take your virginity away from you, okay?
You only get to say that once.
God willing, it's your choice and it's somebody you love that maybe leads to you getting married or you save yourself.
That's a choice you got to make as an individual.
And as a parent, you got to prepare them.
Okay.
As a putting them in the right environment, God, all of those things you got to do yourself.
So one, they're watching that video to know exactly what some of the tactics may be.
Number two, I think, you know, strategies out there, most men have no clue on how to date a girl.
No clue on how to date a girl.
There's strategies on how to date a coworker.
There are strategies on how to date, you know, areas, what markets to target.
Heck, there was a documentary, Wedding Crashers, where you can go, you know, and target funerals.
If you remember, Will Farrell rocked the funerals, right?
That was his documentary many times.
Some lived it, some watched it.
But, you know, Neil, what's the guy's name?
Neil Strauss wrote the book, The Game.
Him and I were talking.
I'm at Harvard.
I'm talking to the guy in 2015.
I said, Neil, I want to bring you on.
I'll never forget what he said.
He says, Pat, I don't want to talk about the book, The Game.
I said, why?
He says, because I'm actually married right now with kids.
My life's changed.
I actually never wanted.
Now, I'm embarrassed of writing that book.
Some words to you, Frank.
But here's the point.
The point is, he may be going through that phase one day, and he may say, Good for him.
For us to expect and look at Tristan and Andrew as their Jesus and they walk on water, that's not my standard of anybody.
I learned a long time ago: if you have that standard of anybody, you'll be disappointed very quickly.
But the amount of influence that they're having out there on boys and what they're doing, if there isn't a father figure that's teaching those things, kids are going to gravitate to somebody like that.
That's going to inspire them.
I think they're doing more good for society than bad, if you ask me.
I think they're fighting the fight.
And unfortunately, sometimes the people that we want to fight to fight will never meet 100% of everybody's criteria.
Never.
The people who had the courage to go up against the biggest bullies of all time were never people you would have said, I like 100 things out of 100 things that this guy stands for.
No, they're typically very, very complicated human beings that have lived very weird lives, that have been tough lives, that they have some scars, they have some vengeance in them, but they're fearless.
And to get that kind of fearlessness requires a pretty shitty life to live to get to a point like that.
Some people that have lived a very proper life, mom and dad, were married the entire time.
They were together.
They were not grown in the streets.
My parents got two divorces from each other for 20 years.
Certain lives are creating different kinds of human beings.
I don't sit there and say that is the gold standard on every single thing you should do with your life.
I say, yeah, you know what?
That's a pretty crazy video to make.
You know what?
If I was friends with you at that time, I would tell you, what are you doing making this video?
Just take this thing down.
It's not an isolated instance.
So here's what I hear that you're saying.
You can correct me if I'm wrong.
I hear you saying that the type of behavior that he was encouraging and training young men in, and this is the type of stuff that's behind their paywall if you join their hustler university or whatever they call it.
So you're saying that you would view that as a threat to your daughters because you're going to show them, show this video to your daughters in order to warn them about young men who would take advantage of them sexually by deceiving them into thinking that they're cared about.
I'm surrounded by players.
I mean, I.
But you view that as a threat to your own children, which means that you don't view what Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are bringing to young men as something positive because what they're doing is they're training other young men to behave like that.
They do have an incredible opportunity.
I acknowledge what you're saying.
They came from a hard background and they've been financially successful.
I would argue that they were financially successful for immoral reasons.
I mean, they ran a pornography business.
That's not really something to be proud of.
That's not something that you want to inspire in other young men is to run OnlyFans accounts, not give the girls the passwords, manipulate them into staying in the house.
I mean, that's not really a positive thing.
But if this is what they're teaching to young men, then the next generation of young men who may not be as wise as you are in saying, I don't put anybody on a pedestal.
I don't view anyone as a savior.
They do view these guys as a savior because it's the only people that are telling them, like, yes, you have a valid grievance with your masculinity being attacked.
We're going to have a culture of young men in 10 years who are objectifying women, using them, and commodifying their bodies.
I don't think that's good.
If I have a binary choice between the current educational system that's getting people to go from traditional is 0.8%, them being part of the LGBTQ party community, we can say party or religion.
Party or relationship, whatever you want to call it.
It's a party.
And you got boomers is what?
2%.
Then you got, you know, millennials is whatever.
Then next one is when Gen Zs are 21%.
If that indoctrine is turning one out of five kids to be part of LGBTQ and these guys are not, I would much rather have them listen to this guy, just to be fair with you.
Can I make one quick point?
Yeah.
So you got 20 seconds.
Everything's about 20 seconds because we got to move on.
I got 50 minutes.
I'm lucky to see you.
Evolving and getting better.
I would argue that that video was done many, many years ago.
And I think they have a fair defense.
Okay.
So you read the game.
I read the game.
Most guys will want to read something like that to get more women.
At some point, you're going to evolve.
I'll give one last thing.
I started reading PBD's book over the week: Choose Your Enemies Wisely.
Okay, they have chosen their enemies very wisely.
And in many cases, the enemies have chosen them.
But Pat, in the beginning of the book, talks about logic versus emotion.
What is not the good emotions is actually what these guys talk about.
And it's the foundation of stoicism.
What is not good emotion is being sensitive, illogical, weak-minded, impulsive, irrational, and just being a pussy.
But what is good emotion is having passion, stoicism, being hyper-obsessed with what you want to accomplish, being relentless, being powerful, and having purpose.
And I would argue that the Tates try to bring out those types of emotions, the good emotions in men.
Okay, good.
Let's go to the next story here.
All right.
So, which one do we want to go to with the time that we have left?
Do we want to do Newsome $20 an hour?
Do we want to do DeSantis Bill Maher?
Do we want to do Gates, McCarthy?
Do we want to do shocking number of Europeans on a number of times to fly?
Do we want to do Kelsey, Taylor Swift?
Which one do you want to do?
I mean, we have to conservative Taylor Swift sitting right here.
I mean, I got something funny with Taylor Swift.
Okay, so let's go to Taylor Swift.
Here we go.
Okay, then that's what we'll do.
We'll do Taylor Swift and we'll do the Bowman guy.
So Taylor Swift has the NFL on notice as her economic dominance spreads.
Okay.
So page eight.
So Taylor Swift has transcended her role as a megastar and emerged as an economic powerhouse.
Her, I'm sorry, you want to read this part?
You want to read this for page eight?
I think it's important for you to read this part.
I love reading this article because you speak.
It's an Assyrian word.
All right.
So Taylor Swift has transcended her role as a megastar and emerged as an economic powerhouse.
Her Eras tour, which if you are a Syrian, you're listening, has a completely different meaning than what the tour actually is.
We'll talk about that later.
With resale tickets, yo, think about this.
$3,800 for an average ticket could generate $4.6 billion in consumer spending in the U.S. alone.
The Federal Reserve acknowledged Swift's impact to local economies, citing her concerts at a catalyst for increased hotel revenue in Philadelphia.
Additionally, her upcoming Eras tour or Eras Tour movie is expected to make a $100 million box office splash, bolstering the struggling Hollywood industry.
Taylor Swift's appearance in the NFL game between Kansas City and the Chicago Bears significantly boosted the league's popularity.
Despite the game's one-sided outcome, it drew 24.3 million average viewers with an 8.1 increase in female viewers in the 12, the 17-year-old demographic female viewers.
And like, because Liz, I want to know what your guys' opinions are.
So that influence, that movement, that bringing all the eyeballs, to go to the political side, she's obviously voiced her opinion on politics.
We all know where she stands.
The guy that she's dating, the first thing he does when they start dating, he's like, hey, get your vax, get your shot, get your boots, get everything.
I'm just, it's funny to me.
It's like, you guys realize they're going to break up.
Like, I hope everybody out there, all the people that are just like, oh my God, this is match made in heaven.
It's going to work.
It's going to work forever.
But, Pat, I thought about it.
I really thought about it.
You know, the breakup song is going to have to do with the NFL.
You know, she's going to sing a song that's going to go, you fumbled me inside the end zone.
That's a penalty.
You're now in the friend zone.
Screw the Chiefs.
Like, that's going to be when they break up, it's over.
Hell yeah.
It'll take you to the next one.
And think about this.
And guys, think about this.
When she's done with him, what happens to all those viewers and the tastes of all these people in their mouth of the NFL?
What happens?
What happens to the mass exit of the Swifties?
Because when she leaves, the Swifties are coming with her.
You know what I mean?
They're going to break up for two reasons.
Number one, he's a fan of Andrew Tate, Liz.
I mean, he's a big, strong, strapping dude.
He's actually one of those masculine dudes that is a fan of Tate.
So we'll see if that works out.
But they're going to work out or not work out because of one main reason, money.
There's something called hypergamy.
Women like dating up.
So this might be fun, short term.
He's a fun, cool football guy.
He's worth $30 million.
She's worth $750 million.
Yeah, he'll be able to treat her to dinner and take her out and treat her nice and show her a good time.
But he ain't flying around on private jets.
He ain't traveling all around the world with her.
He ain't got it like that.
Now, is Travis Kelsey a stud, the man, best tight end in the league, arguably?
No doubt.
This is a whole nother level.
Big time.
And I know this from experience to not get too personal.
One of my best friends dated, not dated, married a girl more famous than Taylor Swift.
Okay.
Kim Kardashian.
And let me tell you, 50 million ain't $1 billion.
Of course.
And at some point, those billionaire type women are going to go after billionaire type.
Yeah.
But Liz, you agree, though.
I mean, obviously, this is all for politics and, you know, the visual of it.
Don't you think that isn't it kind of weird that all this is happening?
She's opening her mouth about politics.
He's telling people to get the new vaccine.
Like, does it like, do you see that?
My reaction when I saw his vaccine ad was his heart's going to be broken by either the shot or by her, but it's an inevitable conclusion.
Yeah, one way or the other.
One way or the other.
And I don't mean not to credit whoever came up with that joke.
I saw it on Twitter and it cracked me up.
Listen, Taylor Swift is very interesting because she obviously is outspoken about liberal politics, right?
Leftist politics.
I think she's pro-abortion.
I think she was against Marsha Blackburn in Tennessee.
But the reason that her era's tour is so incredibly successful, like who doesn't love Taylor Swift songs, right?
Since Syrian tour, but go ahead.
Since Syrian tour.
Sorry, Gabriel.
I love you.
The reason it's so successful is because while she preaches feminism politically, her entire bank of songs are actually anti-feminist.
They speak to what young women actually desire, but are told that they culturally shouldn't.
So it speaks of true love, getting married, having a family, running away together, fairy tales, this very actually family-centric, wholesome message in most of her songs, which is a contradiction of her personal life and her politics.
But I think it's very interesting because our culture tells like 12-year-olds to 17-year-old women, you should go into STEM.
That's the only thing you should do.
Don't focus on having babies right now.
Save that for a long time.
Go on birth control for 15 years.
Do that.
Freeze your eggs.
Save them.
But what young women actually want is they want to fall in love.
They want to be wives and mothers.
They might have other goals.
I mean, I do both, obviously, but every young woman wants that.
And I think it's really interesting that she's such a liberal personally, but she's making her money off of like traditional people.
You think every woman wants that?
False woman, yeah.
We're going to wrap up because we couldn't hit other stories.
It's 11.02.
If I'm the CMO of MLB Tom, you know what I'm doing?
We're putting an entire campaign together for Shohei Otani to date Taylor Swift.
This is way too much eyeballs away from the MLB, and I don't appreciate it.
We're going to create a breakup.
And his next contract solves the hypergamy.
It should be like a season of the bachelorette, but like professional athletes.
Which stuff.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Anyways, Liz, if you can wrap it up and give us 30 seconds about this book, Hide Your Children, Why You Wrote It, What's In It, and then we'll wrap up the podcast.
Yeah, yeah.
You guys can get it at hideyourchildrenbook.com or wherever books are sold.
I wrote this because I, like most parents in the country, have been shocked at the assaults on our children from critical race theory to transgender ideology to 1619 project.
And I wondered who's behind this?
Where's this coming from?
What's their goal?
So I dug into that.
And the first half of this book, I name the names of the people and the organizations that are behind each one of those attacks, just like the queer theory stuff we talked about.
And the second half of the book, I actually provide a solution, which is different than the Republican Party.
It's actually a critique of the Republican Party because I think we've been fighting very poorly against these cultural forces for the last couple of decades.
I propose a different solution for how we can actually start winning for once and protect our kids.
I love it.
Guys, go order the book.
We'll put the link below.
Just came out a week ago.
Hide your children, exposing the Marxists behind the attack on America's Kids.
Take care, everybody.
Like I said, one thing, too.
Tampa, I'm coming to Tampa Improv October 18th for one night, one show.
Oh, my birthday.
Tampa improv.
Is that your birthday?
October 18th, Tampa.
I love it.
I may join you.
So October 18th.
The Tampa link is in my Instagram, my bio.
Sick.
Love it.
Okay, guys.
Take care, everybody.
We'll do this again.
Are we doing anything Thursday?
It's Thursday and Coulter, and then on Friday, we have Tim Poole and Jimmy Dore joining us.
